Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism

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Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism


Introduction


Anyone who grew up in the omnipotent internet, who can sense the difference between this or that rapper, and who considers the work of "t.A.T.u." girls and other squirrels-shooters-and-whiskers to be the height of intellect, can safely put this article aside and immerse themselves in exciting comics or light up a vape, exclaiming, "Oh, how cringeworthy, all this hate..."



Of course, this doesn't apply to those who are capable of critical thinking and approaching the problem not from the words of a popular blogger, but through serious study of the issue, drawing on the work of real scientists, and not from forums, popular talk shows, and similar platforms.

An overview of the problem of imperialism in the modern world is inseparable from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin's key work, "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism." Naturally, Lenin wrote a number of other works devoted to the study of this social formation, but today we will examine modern capitalism based solely on this work. Despite the booklet's short length, this work offers a highly concentrated wealth of knowledge that modern young people (and not only them) would do well to study in more detail.

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin rightly considered imperialism the highest stage of capitalism because it is at this stage that the most pronounced contradictions and tendencies of the capitalist system become apparent. Lenin's brilliant, genius mind calculated that capitalism could not develop further. At the same time, he pointed out that the specific timing of the end of this stage in human history could not be determined with certainty. And, unlike armchair experts or talk show hosts, he based his conclusions on the wealth of knowledge humanity had accumulated over its history. historyFor would-be critics, I advise you to familiarize yourself with the fact that, unlike you, Lenin always carefully studied the theses, arguments, and works not only of like-minded philosophers, writers, economists, and so on, but also of his ideological opponents.

Even before the revolution, he said that intelligent idealism is closer to intelligent materialism than stupid materialism. So let's follow his advice. Let's approach things with our minds, not with the forum.

Lenin's theory is based on a profound analysis of the economic and political changes that occurred in the European powers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The brevity of his work rests on a solid foundation of works by prominent economists and philosophers, preceded by an in-depth study of capitalism in Russia and other developed countries. One need only glance at the list of works he studied and drew upon in his work. I dare say that the aforementioned work can be considered the apotheosis of thought in this area. This in no way negates the fact that Lenin's theoretical legacy should not be subject to development. Lenin himself considered Marxism not a dogma, but a worldview that evolves and changes while preserving its core premises.

Now let's first examine the main characteristics of imperialism identified by Lenin in more detail. To do this, we simply need to recall the classic five characteristics of imperialism, applicable both to the late 19th and early 20th centuries and to modern society.

1. Concentration of production and formation of monopolies

Lenin noted that during the imperialist stage, capital is concentrated in the hands of a few monopolistic companies, displacing small and medium-sized businesses. Even in Japan, where the concept of preserving small and medium-sized businesses as a solid foundation for large oligarchic entities exists, virtually all even the slightest significant sectors of the economy are in the hands of a few owners who dictate their own rules of the game. And exactly the same process is currently unfolding in Russia, especially against the backdrop of a special military operation, when the closure of sales markets in Europe, the United States, and other countries forces companies to resort to more drastic measures to survive and prosper.

While competition played a key role in capitalism's advancement at its inception, it is now viewed as an undesirable element by large corporations. Each seeks to suppress competitors, no matter the means. Moreover, corporations and oligarchs often, if not always, resort to the state and the judicial system to legitimize their instincts. This process leads to a decline in competition and the strengthening of the oligarchy's power, allowing large owners—industrialists and bankers—to dictate their terms in the market and extract maximum profits.

And democracy, or, better to say, the semblance of democracy, serves only as a legal justification for all actions aimed at strengthening the power of the oligarchy.

2. Merger of industrial and banking capital

Without delving into economic theories that are not the subject of this article, we'll focus on the most important points. The late 19th and early 20th centuries were characterized by rapid industrial growth. Industrial development, the expansion of economic ties, and the export and import of goods required, and continue to require, immediate cash injections into production. But where to find the necessary capital? Not every corporation has the capacity to fully finance itself. Part of the costs, of course, are recouped from profits. But knowledge-intensive and labor-intensive industries require enormous amounts of capital. Financial institutions, not directly involved in production but possessing impressive reserves of funds, acquired in part by plundering colonies, began to enter the picture. The result was the emergence of what we now call financial capital. Banks, which had played a secondary role (not literally, of course!), began to play a key role in the economy, directing investment flows and determining company policies.

Complex and turbulent processes ultimately led to the merger of industrial capital and banking capital. Oligarchs and monopolies emerged, dictating policies based not on the interests of the nation, but solely on the interests of the monopoly. Finance capital became the primary instrument of control over the economy and politics at the international level. And since a nation (or nations) is limited in space, capital, having gained control of the state and the country, in its boundless passion for profit and only profit, begins to expand beyond the borders of the state. And this leads to the export of capital.

3. Capital outflow

While capitalism expanded in depth and breadth, subjugating the state, the nation, and the judicial system, and waging wars for territorial gains, its primary export was the export of goods. And the wars themselves were primarily fought for the exclusive right to export goods to a particular region of the globe.

But as soon as financial capital began to form, the emphasis gradually shifted to the export of capital. We know and understand that capital strives to increase its profits while reducing all costs. An economically developed country possesses highly skilled resources. And these resources demand more than just a token payment for their work. But the higher the worker's wage, the lower the profit! What to do? The answer is simple. Find a place where wages are minimal, production costs are lower than in the parent country, and the government of the chosen country is lenient towards incoming investment. As a result, the expansion of capital invested in foreign enterprises and projects has become the primary area for oligarchs to utilize their profits. By exporting capital, parent countries seek to exploit the cheap labor and raw materials of poor countries, securing superprofits for themselves.

And this law is universal. However, the export of capital, or, as it's fashionable to say now, investment, has a downside. Over time, a country exploited by capital becomes developed both economically and politically, which leads capital to rethink how to invest its resources. A striking modern example is China. Having begun by attracting capital and possessing cheap labor and significant natural resources, modern China has grown into a superpower and begun to invest itself, or, in other words, export capital.

4. International monopolistic capitalist unions are formed, dividing the world

Although the merger of monopolies in the late 19th and early 20th centuries occurred primarily within the borders of a single state, the prototypes of modern transnational corporations nevertheless began to emerge. TNCs directed direct investment primarily into the formation of colonial governance systems and the waging of expansionist wars, which guaranteed them access to raw materials. Companies also established overseas production branches to extract capital.

A striking example is the American company Singer. In 1867, it opened its first sewing machine factory in Scotland, instead of exporting finished products. By the early 20th century, the company owned a vast network of factories outside the US—in the UK, France, Russia, and other countries. This allowed it to capture approximately 80% of the global sewing machine market.

At the end of the 19th century, there were no international norms regulating the activities of transnational corporations. Regulation was exercised solely through national legislation and bilateral agreements. However, during this period, transnational corporations acquired legal personality, allowing them to operate as independent legal entities, enter into legal relations through agreements, and bear liability.

At the end of the 19th century, TNCs influenced the economies of both developing countries and those in colonies or under the influence of one state or another. It should be emphasized that TNCs contributed to the development of global economic ties, standardization, and the globalization of production. This, incidentally, can be considered progressive.

TNCs also invested in raw material extraction in the colonies and their processing in the home country (wasn't capital export a thing of the past?). The colonies provided such companies with a broad base for organizing production in both natural resources and cheap labor. These factors contributed to lower commodity prices and led to the expansion of economic influence. On a positive note, job creation through the opening of branches and subsidiaries improved the standard of living in the host countries. Of course, this didn't affect all segments of the population; living conditions remained largely the same, as a so-called labor aristocracy was essentially formed.

With the construction of enterprises and the organization of manufacturing and banking, technologies, solutions, and scientific discoveries began to be transferred between countries. This inevitably led to a slow but steady increase in the level of industrial development. And with the rise in production and capital investment, cities grew, and urban infrastructure was created and expanded. TNCs increased their production capacity and created new types of products, which had an overall positive impact on the economy.

However, the negative factors outweighed the positive aspects of transnational corporations. Since profit is the primary motivation and the primary goal of any capitalist, when dissatisfaction with oppressive labor conditions or state capture by foreign governments arose, these transnational corporations took every possible measure to suppress national movements or eliminate national competitors in the domestic market.

Considering themselves the bearers of civilization and the conquered countries and colonies second-class citizens, TNCs contributed to the emergence and growth of right-wing and far-right parties. Relying on the violence and unscrupulousness of these parties, and subsequently on governments formed by their leaders, such as in Germany in 1933, allowed TNCs to increase their profits not simply through production but by reducing labor costs in terms of wages, extending the workday, and other measures.

5. Economic division of the world.
The rapid growth of industry, the formation of monopolies, and scientific and technological progress inevitably led to a clash between the interests of the most developed countries. Local conflicts aimed at acquiring spheres of influence began to flare up. But the developed states lacked the strength to completely and unconditionally subjugate the entire world, and so the notorious economic division of the world occurred. Not yet by military means, but close to it. Military-political alliances began to form, whose goals were no longer singular, as had been the case, for example, during the Napoleonic Wars or the war of 1854. Now the alliances being formed pursued the goal of establishing global dominance.

While during the Age of Discovery, metropolitan powers sought simply to expand their colonial territories, in the 19th century, with the complete division of the globe, wars took on the character of a global repartition. As I noted earlier, no single state could possess the resources to completely conquer the world, and these wars were merely local. But the main difference between these wars was that they were not simply about seizing territory for the purpose of plunder, but rather about securing new markets. Capital exports, the growth of industrial production, and the struggle between monopolies inevitably pushed the governments of predatory states to wage wars in the interests of domestic capital, which felt constrained within national borders. Transnational corporations were only just beginning to emerge, so an economic, rather than military, repartition of the world was bound to lead to a political crisis, and then to its resolution through military means.

The same thing is happening today. Only the labels have changed, not the essence of imperialism. Governments bought by globalists decide who is right and who is wrong; who lives and who dies; which state should be the source of resources and cheap labor, and which will be the beneficiary.

Imperialism of our time


The development of imperialism exacerbates economic and political inequality between countries. Imperialist states use their military and financial might to establish favorable trade conditions and exploit the peoples of dependent countries. Thus, the rich become even richer, while the poor remain in a state of perpetual dependence.

Thus, Lenin saw imperialism as the logical outcome of the evolution of capitalism, when economic processes lead to the formation of powerful monopolies, financial control, the expansion of external aggression, and the deepening of social and political conflicts. These characteristics make imperialism the final phase of capitalism's development before the revolutionary crisis and the transition to a socialist society.

Before discussing imperialism today, let's look at the characteristics of imperialism described in Vladimir Ilyich Lenin's work and the characteristics of imperialism as they are understood today. Here's a table:


Should we consider Lenin's work outdated? Absolutely not! Lenin himself repeatedly emphasized that Marxism is not dogma, but a living movement that can and should be rethought, revised, and developed at certain stages. Rigidity in theory only leads to stagnation of thought and emasculates the very spirit of theory. Only dialectical development can bring life. And in this regard, Lenin's work is particularly relevant, for it shows how imperialism, genetically linked to early capitalism and, through it, feudalism, began to transform itself in response to external factors.

Everything in human history has its causes and connections. It's not always possible to identify them, but human experience shows that only under certain conditions can an event occur that dramatically changes the fate of a state or group of states. Therefore, those characteristics absent from Lenin's work—in particular, ideological pressure, the promotion of the values ​​of one culture over others, and the shaping of public opinion through the media—were not included in the list of criteria for imperialism. They simply didn't exist.

But if we examine the characteristics of modern imperialism, we see a clear genetic link to those identified by Lenin. International corporations, large transnational companies that control a significant share of the global market, have begun to actively influence the economies of not just individual industries, but entire countries. All means of coercing obedience are being used: debt mechanisms, high-interest loans to developing countries, leading to debt slavery.

Those who do not want to bear the yoke are forced weaponsWars and conflicts have been virtually constant since the end of World War II. When there's no war, military intervention occurs under any pretext, be it protecting humanitarian missions, fighting terrorism, providing aid to those who uphold traditional Western values, combating communism, and so on. The range of reasons is broad. Sometimes they even resort to outright fraud, as happened in 2003, when Colin Powell, Hitler-style, shook a vial of tooth powder and, without batting an eye, declared it to be Saddam Hussein's chemical weapon.

All these actions are aimed at seizing natural resources and controlling territories. What was relevant in the late 19th century has not been lost in the current century. Capitalism, disguised as a champion of human rights, remains at heart a vile predator, ready to tear apart anyone who encroaches on the sacred right of private property. It does not spare even entire nations for this. The example of the former Ukraine is one of the clearest proofs of this thesis.

While at the end of the 19th century, the majority of the population had yet to experience the influence of the media, with the advancement of technology, information wars are now as widespread as trade wars. Manipulating public opinion through the media and social media, spreading false information, and promoting Western values ​​have become commonplace. No one shies away from getting caught in a scandal; any amount of dirt is used to snatch a piece of the action. And when it comes to public policy, monopolies and oligarchy spare neither effort nor expense.

If manipulation of public opinion fails, and aggression against a country proves ineffective after a balance of power, other dirty tactics are employed. This includes sanctions, for example. Recalcitrant states are subject to economic and legal restrictions. These countries are shown that the West alone should be their master. The recalcitrant are offered a full package of hardships, and the government of the recalcitrant country is presented with an ultimatum. If it is not accepted, Western aggression relies on a coup d'état. This is the law of capitalism: strong predators devour the weak, and jackals, like Tabaqui from Kipling's tale, are left with the tasty bones. Spatial expansion has taken the form of a redistribution of property.

Sacred private property has taken hold of people's minds and souls; only a few find the strength to resist Mammon. The Lord said, "No one can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one and love the other; or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other." But if you ask modern imperialists and their lackeys, you'll hear in response, "That's different!" Yes, times have changed, but the essence remains the same, only with new features. But the sheep's clothing a wolf dons doesn't change the wolf's essence in the least. He devours sheep, just as he has always devoured them. So too, imperialism, no matter how much it mutates, will remain essentially as Lenin described it.
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  1. +34
    25 November 2025 04: 28
    So imperialism, no matter how much it mutates, in its essence it will remain the same as Lenin described it.
    Well written...Otherwise we began to forget the essence of capitalism.
    1. +30
      25 November 2025 05: 17
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Otherwise, they began to forget the essence of capitalism.
      We still feel this very essence on our skin. wink
      1. +6
        25 November 2025 07: 12
        Author, good try, great message, the article can and should be polished, the main thing is not to go into extremism.
        1. +15
          25 November 2025 14: 09
          If I finish it the way I wanted at the beginning, they will immediately give me a nice room with checkered windows and an elegant striped suit, after all, we have capitalism in our country
          1. P
            0
            26 November 2025 00: 29
            They won't give you a uniform, so it's better to be out of these places. You are needed free
          2. -1
            30 November 2025 22: 45
            If you have capitalism in your country, then you take good medicine.
      2. +20
        25 November 2025 09: 24
        Quote: Schneeberg
        We still feel this very essence on our skin.

        We, the older generation, studied Marxism-Leninism and scientific communism in our schools, and we weren't stupid, yet we allowed the liberal Yeltsinites to come to power. And like many of us, with a higher education and a basic understanding of Marxism-Leninism, we fled to MMM and invested our money in a structure that promised 100% profit. The greed that lurked within us overcame our knowledge and reason. And now we have "developed capitalism" and we mourn the past, but there's no return in sight.
        1. +14
          25 November 2025 10: 51
          Quote: carpenter
          there is no return in sight

          Who knows, capitalism is essentially "MMM," ​​where the top prospers while the base expands. New colonies run out, there's no expansion—crisis and a great depression, which is now brewing in the world. The only way to reset is through war—debt forgiveness and new profits from bloodshed.
          Humanity has no bright future under capitalism; it has exhausted itself. Its main positive, competition, became a fiction as soon as transnational monopolies were fully established. Furthermore, competition between the socialist pole (the USSR) and the capitalist pole (the USA) disappeared; the bourgeoisie stopped fearing communism and began tightening the social screws.
          Also, it wasn't our greed that was the issue, even though we drank Coke, rubbed our balls with our jeans, and believed in "democracy." Remember, after the "Moscow Maidan" in 1991, no one talked about a return to capitalism; they talked about "democracy." The sham CIS was passed off as a renewal of the Soviet Union. What happened? An unconstitutional coup d'état occurred, in which both the USSR Constitution and the results of the All-Union referendum for the preservation of the Soviet Union were trampled.
          1. +10
            25 November 2025 11: 10
            Quote: Per se.
            even though they drank Cola and rubbed their balls with jeans, they believed in "democracy"

            You're right about democracy, although I didn't really notice any totalitarianism or rights infringement during the Soviet era. But many people wanted to drink cava in Paris, buy imported truffles, have perverted sex, and bark all sorts of nonsense on TV, newspapers, and other media. Now they've got it all, but they're not happy about it.
            1. +7
              25 November 2025 12: 12
              Quote: carpenter
              I wanted to drink cava in Paris

              This "forbidden fruit" effect, of course, is the Hollywood glamour, and the vileness of the "gentlemen," the newly minted "partners," who immediately began expanding their global pyramid with new colonies from the former socialist bloc, writing a "constitution" for us, and installing a multitude of "advisers." The USSR wasn't destroyed to strengthen Russia. A shady Central Bank with draconian interest rates, selling everything possible and impossible for foreign currency, with billions flowing abroad, a corrupt "elite" dependent on the West, with dual and triple citizenship. This was and is, and it is the result of capitalism plucked from the dustbin of history, plus our careerist opportunists, who first denigrated and distorted socialism, and then, having become traitors and renegades from the CPSU, blamed socialism for everything. What kind of "communist" could Chubais be? He was a party member, and there were quite a few of them there, entrenched no worse than the Banderites... I guess we had to go through this. It's a shame so many good people died, and an even bigger war looms ahead, but otherwise capitalism won't die.
              1. 0
                25 November 2025 20: 47
                Why do you constantly confuse political and economic systems?
                1. +1
                  25 November 2025 20: 53
                  Quote: a.shlidt
                  Why do you constantly confuse political and economic systems?

                  Under capitalism, the political and economic systems are one and the same; it is impossible to confuse them.
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2025 20: 59
                    So what's going on in China and Vietnam now?
                    1. +4
                      25 November 2025 21: 04
                      Quote: a.shlidt
                      So what's going on in China and Vietnam now?

                      People's Republic of China, in power since the founding of the CPC.
                      Socialist Republic of Vietnam - a parliamentary republic. The country is governed by a one-party socialist system, dominated by the Communist Party of Vietnam since its founding.
                      1. +1
                        25 November 2025 21: 08
                        So, are communists united with capitalists?)))
                      2. +4
                        26 November 2025 06: 55
                        Quote: a.shlidt
                        So, are communists united with capitalists?)))
                        Don't engage in demagoguery, Alexander. In China, the capitalists are controlled by the communists, but here, it seems, the "democrats" are controlled by the capitalists.
                        As for the “confusion,” the economic structure and the political system are not antagonists, but rather interconnected phenomena.
                      3. +1
                        26 November 2025 08: 07
                        Quote: Per se.
                        Don't engage in demagoguery, Alexander.

                        No, no, demagoguery has nothing to do with it... Let's not forget that in theory there shouldn't be private means of production in China... The person is telling you about the actual symbiosis of different systems and economies...
                      4. +2
                        26 November 2025 09: 56
                        Nikolai, you're a level 100 advisor! At least someone understands what I'm talking about.
                      5. 0
                        2 December 2025 19: 10
                        In China, there is what V.I. Lenin called the New Economic Policy (NEP). And at the same time, the mistakes of the Soviet leadership were taken into account.
                      6. 0
                        2 December 2025 19: 18
                        Quote: Grencer81
                        In China, there is what V.I. Lenin called the New Economic Policy (NEP). And at the same time, the mistakes of the Soviet leadership were taken into account.

                        I agree, that's how it is, by and large... but how does this fit in with Marx's theory?
                      7. 0
                        2 December 2025 19: 20
                        The fact that there is still practice, without which theory is dead. Theory is not dogma, but a guide to action, as our political officer used to say.
          2. +1
            26 November 2025 00: 49
            And how did this MMM become the originator of two-thirds (if not three-quarters) of everything that surrounds us? Look around – practically everything was developed by the bourgeoisie.
            1. +2
              26 November 2025 06: 45
              Quote: Anglorussian
              And how did this MMM become the founder?
              Not a founder, but an illustration. As for "looking back," before the birth of capitalism in Holland and England, everything around us was developed by feudal lords. Now tell me that the multiplication table is a credit to capitalism. Everything is a product of evolution; socialism simply had less time and experience; we were deceived, but not defeated. Otherwise, "Great oaks grow from little acorns." Socialism will return.
              1. +1
                26 November 2025 08: 08
                Quote: Per se.
                Socialism will return.

                Socialism, as a phenomenon, never went away in many countries... or are you specifically talking about the Russian Federation?
              2. -5
                26 November 2025 13: 46
                Only a parrot's beak can be called a product of evolution. Developments like the internet, the tomograph, and the steam turbine are the product of capital investment and the labor of generations of educated specialists. None of this would have existed under, as you say, "MMM."

                Socialism will consume itself within 10 years if it returns. It has essentially degenerated into an ideology of parasites now.
            2. -1
              1 December 2025 21: 41
              Read up on financial capital! The bourgeoisie only develops profits! And what you're saying is precisely the product of "independent" media owned by the bourgeoisie!
              1. 0
                1 December 2025 22: 57
                I can modestly note that the author of Capital is buried in imperial London, where he preferred to live.Yes .
        2. +2
          25 November 2025 20: 45
          What kind of... sensible piece of work is this? What does a financial pyramid have to do with it, when laws against them were already passed in capitalist England at the beginning of the 20th century? For some reason, all the intellectuals with higher education and knowledge of Marxism are unable to explain why exactly they disliked capitalism. Not the mindless theft we had in the 90s.
          1. 0
            1 December 2025 21: 43
            Well, read Engels. When the prospect of enormous profits is in the air, capitalism will resort to any crime. ANY!
        3. P
          +1
          26 November 2025 00: 30
          Socialism wasn't in sight in '16, but '17 arrived anyway.
    2. 0
      25 November 2025 14: 10
      Since then, however, nothing has changed.
  2. -21
    25 November 2025 04: 35
    And what's the point of this opus about Lenin's delirium? That the ideas of communism are alive and well? Where?
    Lenin noted that at the stage of imperialism, capital is concentrated in the hands of a few monopoly companies, displacing small and medium-sized businesses.

    Nonsense, the basis of the economy of any developed country is small and medium-sized businesses; most people work in small companies.
    And if competition played a leading role in the advancement of capitalism at the beginning, it is now an undesirable element from the point of view of large corporations.

    Nonsense. There are countless examples of young companies knocking down the biggest monopolies. Where are Kodak and Nokia now?
    Each of them strives to suppress competitors, no matter what means.

    Nonsense. Boeing and LM were the monopolist in rocket launch services, a single monopolist dictating prices for their services in the US. Then SpaceX appears, destroying their cozy little world. Were Boeing and LM hunting Musk? Organizing assassination attempts, burning down his spaceport? Having cornered the launch market, SpaceX is supposed to destroy Amazon, "no matter what it takes," which is hot on its heels?
    Banks, which had played a secondary role (not literally, of course!), began to play a key role in the economy, directing the flow of investment and determining company policies.

    Nonsense. Banks have long ceased to play any role, because investment funds have emerged.
    And the wars themselves were mainly fought for the exclusive right to export their goods to one or another region of the globe.

    Nonsense. China really wanted Africa, and it got it. What wars did it unleash to achieve it?
    And the wars themselves were mainly fought for the exclusive right to export their goods to one or another region of the globe.

    Nonsense. Israel fought Iran over the right to export what and where? Azerbaijan fought Armenia over the right to export what?
    By exporting capital, metropolises seek to exploit the cheap labor force and raw materials of poor countries, ensuring superprofits for themselves

    Nobody's interested in cheap labor anymore. Modern manufacturing is a factory with no people at all. The main things are the availability of logistics hubs and an abundance of cheap electricity.
    TNCs directed direct investments primarily into the formation of the colonial system of governance and the waging of expansionist wars

    Nonsense. ASML is a prime example of a multinational corporation, a global monopoly that controls the entire world. What kind of expansionist wars is the Netherlands waging? And what kind of colonial system are they building? By locating production in the US? Is it their colony now?
    These TNCs took all possible measures to suppress national movements

    Nonsense. Is AMD or Toyota suppressing someone's movements?
    The author is stuck in 1925, even though it's 2025, and he's stretching Lenin's delusional ideas onto the present day.
    The Lord said

    Well, that explains it all, an Orthodox communist, a product of the 90s...
    So imperialism, no matter how much it mutates, in its essence it will remain the same as Lenin described it.

    Imperialism is dying, just as feudalism once died, a new era is coming, but the author does not see it.
    1. +12
      25 November 2025 05: 20
      Nobody's interested in cheap labor anymore. Modern manufacturing is a factory with no people at all. The main things are the availability of logistics hubs and an abundance of cheap electricity.

      And who will you sell the goods you produce to...if there are no workers with their families?
      Robots won't buy them... the capitalist needs to sell them somewhere and make a profit... the product itself is worth nothing without a buyer. smile
      1. -9
        25 November 2025 05: 40
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        And who will you sell the goods you produce to...if there are no workers with their families?

        At the last CPC plenum, the goal was set to develop domestic demand, which in China is relatively low (relative to the population). Meanwhile, 60% of "black factories" are located in China. Moreover, China has made tremendous progress in creating anthropomorphic robots capable of replacing humans in production without restructuring the production itself (which is precisely why anthropomorphism was needed). In other words, China has set a specific course for replacing humans in production while simultaneously developing the domestic market. How they will accomplish this is unclear, although there are many options. Perhaps it will involve some kind of subsistence minimum and food stamps, a pension reform that will increase the number of retirees, all tied to social security assessments. Who knows.
        1. +8
          25 November 2025 05: 50
          Quote: Puncher
          China has set a specific course to replacing workers in production while simultaneously developing its domestic market. How they'll pull this off is unclear, although there are many options.

          A digital concentration camp will help them... smile
          Robots will do the work, not people.
          But everything else is a blur. request
          1. +7
            25 November 2025 05: 59
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            A digital concentration camp will help them...
            Robots will do the work, not people.
            But everything else is a blur.

            Don't be fooled. The Chinese people's happiness will be built at your expense. You will buy their goods and pay for their "well-being."
            1. +13
              25 November 2025 06: 39
              Quote: Puncher
              Don't be fooled. The Chinese people's happiness will be built at your expense. You will buy their goods and pay for their "well-being."

              I'm not under any illusions...our bourgeoisie has jacked up the prices of Russian-made goods by almost an order of magnitude...our salaries naturally don't allow us to buy them...we have to buy Chinese goods.
              It is not the Chinese who are to blame for this... but our bourgeoisie. request
              The happiness of our people is entirely in the hands of Nabibulina, Gref and other cadres. what
              And you know their policy.
              1. -7
                25 November 2025 06: 56
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Our bourgeoisie has raised the prices of Russian-made goods by almost an order of magnitude

                Chinese goods have always been cheaper than Soviet and later Russian ones. But while this was previously due to cheap labor, today it's due to the technological advancement of production.
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                The happiness of our people is entirely in the hands of Nabibulina, Gref and other cadres.

                They have been controlled from Beijing for a long time now.
            2. man
              0
              25 November 2025 12: 02
              The Chinese people's happiness will be built at your expense. You will buy their goods and pay for their "well-being."
              The Chinese people's happiness was recently marred by the fact that their Indian "sworn" friends received a record discount on oil...
              1. -6
                25 November 2025 12: 07
                Quote: mann
                The Chinese people's happiness was recently marred by the fact that their Indian "sworn" friends received a record discount on oil...

                Nobody cares about these little things there.
                1. man
                  0
                  25 November 2025 12: 17
                  Quote: Puncher
                  Quote: mann
                  The Chinese people's happiness was recently marred by the fact that their Indian "sworn" friends received a record discount on oil...

                  Nobody cares about these little things there.

                  I hope the offended Chinese don't raise prices on their goods for Russia out of envy.
                  1. -6
                    25 November 2025 12: 27
                    Quote: mann
                    I hope the offended Chinese don't raise prices on their goods for Russia out of envy.

                    Come on, whoever supplies consumer goods is not connected to oil.
                    1. man
                      +2
                      25 November 2025 14: 24
                      Quote: Puncher
                      Quote: mann
                      I hope the offended Chinese don't raise prices on their goods for Russia out of envy.

                      Come on, whoever supplies consumer goods is not connected to oil.

                      You're not in good shape today. Not only did you dare to criticize Lenin, for which you were rightly reprimanded by the older generation, but your sense of humor has also disappeared somewhere. smile
                      "Did you eat something?" smile
                      1. 0
                        25 November 2025 18: 27
                        Quote: mann
                        Something you are out of shape today

                        Are you keeping an eye on her? Thank you.
                        Quote: mann
                        not only did they dare to criticize Lenin,

                        Does that require courage? Can he start a zombie apocalypse?
                        Quote: mann
                        they were quite rightly scolded by the older generation

                        I didn't notice. But if you're talking about the downsides, they don't matter.
                        Quote: mann
                        and my sense of humor has also disappeared somewhere

                        Well, the issue is very serious. Communists, fixated on what's dying for reasons completely different from those Lenin dreamed up, don't see what will replace it. And things there are quite scary and far more dangerous than capitalism.
                      2. man
                        +3
                        25 November 2025 21: 44
                        the topic is very serious
                        The joke was about the Chinese and Indians and only about them...
                        Communists, fixated on what's dying for reasons completely different from those Lenin dreamed up, fail to see what will replace it. And things there are quite scary and far more dangerous than capitalism.
                        If you're talking about the threat of "digital slavery," then only the lazy haven't mentioned it, and Boris 55... Orwell's "1984"...
                        You simply don't understand the older generation. We're so horrified by today's capitalism that even the USSR's shortcomings are touching, to say nothing of its many virtues. And critics of Lenin and Stalin simply evoke hatred—that's sacred to us. You could understand this and be more tactful...
                      3. +3
                        25 November 2025 23: 56
                        Quote: mann
                        We are so horrified by today's capitalism that even the shortcomings of the USSR are touching,

                        Good day, esteemed mann. Forgive me, but I don't understand what exactly you're accusing colleague Dyrokol of? His rejection of Marxism-Leninism as dogma? Or his "justification" of capitalism?
                        Your assertion above is somewhat dubious. My mother, for example, doesn't experience any "pang of nostalgia" for the socialist past, despite her "small" pension. And I, having embraced "late developed socialism," don't miss it at all.
                        Quote: mann
                        You could understand this and be more tactful...

                        Don't you think that many of our problems have grown out of the impulse to "understand, forgive, be more tactful, cut corners"?
                      4. +2
                        26 November 2025 05: 01
                        Quote: mann
                        You just don't understand the older generation.

                        They are not much older than me.
                        Quote: mann
                        We are so horrified by today's capitalism that even the shortcomings of the USSR are touching.

                        I feel it no less than you, and undoubtedly, the past connected to the USSR evokes nostalgia and that forgotten sense of permanence. But I understand that the current situation is connected precisely to that past. The people who perpetrated this horror weren't extradited to us from the "pernicious West"; they are our own flesh and blood, and many of them were even members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
                        Quote: mann
                        You could understand this and be more tactful.

                        I simply cannot accept people's desire to return to the past. It no longer exists and never will.
                      5. +2
                        25 November 2025 23: 39
                        Quote: Puncher
                        And there everything is quite scary and much more dangerous than capitalism.

                        Encore! Bravo!!! drinks
            3. +1
              25 November 2025 15: 02
              Quote: Puncher
              You will buy their goods and pay for their "well-being"

              I wonder how other countries will be able to buy Chinese goods if they don't have their own production? After all, you think Chinese robots will displace not only Chinese workers but also workers from other countries. What are you smoking, painting a happy capitalism?
              1. +2
                25 November 2025 18: 12
                Quote: VasAndr
                After all, in your opinion, Chinese robots will displace not only Chinese workers, but also workers from other countries.

                I didn't say that. The Chinese are launching "dark factories" at home, and they have more of them than any other country. Will they sell robots to third parties? We'll see next year.
                1. +1
                  25 November 2025 18: 23
                  Quote: Puncher
                  That is, in China they have specifically taken a course on replacing people in production while developing the domestic market.

                  Isn't that your point? Or is that not how it's supposed to be understood? Or is it something else entirely?
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2025 18: 35
                    Quote: VasAndr
                    Isn't that your statement?

                    This concerns China, not the surrounding countries. Why should China boost foreign industry? Robots will lower product costs so much that no other country will be able to compete with traditional manufacturing. Robots don't require lighting, lunch, sick leave, social benefits, pension contributions, and much more. They don't require a cafeteria, bathrooms, or ventilation. They can work around the clock and don't require wages.
                    1. +1
                      25 November 2025 18: 58
                      Quote: Puncher
                      Robots will allow us to reduce the cost of a product so much that no other country will be able to compete with the traditional type of production.

                      That's what I was saying: Chinese robots will destroy jobs in other countries. How will they buy even super-cheap Chinese goods?
                      Robots don't need much. Including people. You, by the way, aren't needed either. How are you going to live, raise children?
                      And yes, anthropomorphic robots in production are a dead end in robotic evolution. And, by and large, they're of no use anywhere, as they're either inferior to humans or non-anthropomorphic robots.
                      1. 0
                        25 November 2025 19: 10
                        Quote: VasAndr
                        What will they buy, even super cheap Chinese goods?

                        Which is why Angolans buy them. There are no industrial enterprises in Angola.
                        China could destroy the industry of developed countries. But not all of it. For example, Volkswagen has abandoned its efforts to develop a self-driving car, and now its Volkswagen will use Xpeng's self-driving car, along with chips and software. And Toyota is already installing Huawei software in its BZ cars. We've come a long way...
                        Quote: VasAndr
                        By the way, you're not needed either. How are you going to live and raise children?

                        I know, "there's no need for a violinist." But the children are already grown up, so I'm worried about them.
                        Quote: VasAndr
                        anthropomorphic robots in production are a dead end in the evolution of robots

                        You're wrong. An anthropomorphic robot will be better able to operate in a human-powered environment. This means that existing production facilities won't require equipment upgrades; instead, they'll simply need to replace the humans.
                        Quote: VasAndr
                        lose to either humans or non-anthropomorphic robots

                        Humans are expensive, but I promise to make robots cheap, almost $10. Regarding the industrial robots already working in dark factories, this is a great option, but expensive.
                      2. 0
                        26 November 2025 23: 29
                        Quote: VasAndr
                        ...anthropomorphic robots in production are dead end branch of robot evolution.

                        It's true that humanoid robots are ineffective in real production, but as sex toys they will delight the Chinese.
                        Advertising cartoons, both Chinese and Boston Dynamics, please only with the quality of graphics.
                        Well, "promises" are from a joke about crayfish)))
            4. Aag
              +1
              25 November 2025 18: 35
              "...You will buy their goods and pay for their "well-being"...".
              Lenin wrote about this too, if you didn’t notice or know.
              1. +1
                25 November 2025 18: 40
                Quote: AAG
                Lenin wrote about this too, if you didn’t notice or know.

                Lenin wrote that to achieve this, capitalists would wage wars to seize markets. Who did China fight, that now everything in Russia is made in China?
                1. Aag
                  +2
                  25 November 2025 18: 44
                  Quote: Puncher
                  Quote: AAG
                  Lenin wrote about this too, if you didn’t notice or know.

                  Lenin wrote that to achieve this, capitalists would wage wars to seize markets. Who did China fight, that now everything in Russia is made in China?

                  Transnational capitalism is maturing... The outflow of capital beyond national borders...
                  Wars can be economic, too. And not just competitive (price-quality) ones. And, like the current ones, sanctions and blockades (which are nothing new)...
                  hi
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2025 18: 56
                    Quote: AAG
                    Wars - they can also be economic.

                    The communists were being specific, talking about specific wars. With guts all over the walls.
                    Quote: AAG
                    sanctions, blockades

                    I don’t recall any sanctions or blockades from China, but our domestic market is under them.
                    1. Aag
                      -1
                      25 November 2025 19: 02
                      Quote: Puncher
                      Quote: AAG
                      Wars - they can also be economic.

                      The communists were being specific, talking about specific wars. With guts all over the walls.
                      Quote: AAG
                      sanctions, blockades

                      I don’t recall any sanctions or blockades from China, but our domestic market is under them.

                      In short, even without the "guts on the wall," we're still quite in line with Their interests. Isn't that right?
                      1. +1
                        25 November 2025 19: 26
                        Quote: AAG
                        Is not it?

                        Absolutely. China hasn't even waged wars for this. They've now taken over the global auto industry. Volkswagen has already given up, but the rest are still dabbling. The Japanese have let BYD into their market! Toyota is installing Huawei software in its cars! They're building a plant in Hungary to avoid tariffs, and they're planning to do the same in Spain... The US has just fenced itself in with tariffs, but that won't help them much.
                        The most interesting thing is that it’s not only state-owned companies receiving government support that are disrupting the market, but also purely commercial startups like Spent, Nio, and Li Xiang.
                      2. Aag
                        +2
                        25 November 2025 19: 55
                        "...Absolutely...".
                        The Chinese auto industry is successfully displacing used Japanese, German, and French cars in the Russian market. Yes, it didn't need a war to achieve this. Our people—or rather, the Russian administration—did everything themselves (?) to achieve this: they oppressed their own auto industry and couldn't get along with the West...
                        We go down in particular...
                        Yeah, I was driving my dad's AZLK M-408IE from the 6th grade; later, after graduating from high school, I got to drive my father-in-law's VAZ-2101 for a bit. As a senior lieutenant, I drove my Opel Cadet. In retirement, I got a 10-year-old Nissan. Now we're living our retirement in 20-plus-year-old Japanese Toyotas and Hondas. Sorry for the rant.
                      3. +3
                        25 November 2025 20: 10
                        Quote: AAG
                        Sorry for the flood.

                        Pain for the Russian auto industry is a lifelong one...
                      4. +1
                        26 November 2025 02: 08
                        Well, even Imperial Germany, before WWI, gradually encroached on England's domain and began flooding it with its goods. Until a certain point...
        2. 0
          29 November 2025 15: 32
          So far, mechanization and automation have led to a paradoxical result: the number of workers and maintenance personnel, if reduced at all, has been less than expected. For example, when installing a CNC machine, instead of a few ordinary machine operators, programmers and additional adjusters for more complex equipment are added, etc. I think the same will happen with robots. It's probably possible to create a fully robotized factory, but it needs to be built (by robots, for whom?), debugged, launched, monitored, repaired, etc. Moreover, such a factory is only the apex of the technological chain, and robotizing everything is a fantasy.
          1. -1
            29 November 2025 17: 37
            Quote from shikin
            automation led to a paradoxical result

            If you've worked in manufacturing, you'll know about a standard department called the machine shop. Tell me, who even remembers what the ladies at the machine shop used to do, and whether such departments exist today?
      2. 0
        26 November 2025 15: 40
        Everything would be fine, but the phrase "Modern production is a factory where there are no people at all." makes it clear that you have never been to a production facility. laughing

        So, a plus on all points, and in terms of understanding the importance of labor force, a plus for Lenin wink
    2. +20
      25 November 2025 07: 00
      Nonsense, the basis of the economy of any developed country is small and medium-sized businesses; most people work in small companies.


      laughing Pwahahaha. Are you the one calling the self-employed small businesses?
      I don't know what remote taiga you're writing from, that we haven't reached you yet, but in Moscow, kiosks and markets are being legally eliminated, and small shops and cafes are closing. Everywhere you look, there's X5retail, Ozon with berries, and Tasty with chocolate.
      1. -10
        25 November 2025 07: 05
        Quote: Engineer
        In Moscow, kiosks and markets are being legally eliminated, and small shops and cafes are closing.

        Like, 70% of Muscovites work for large corporations? And seriously, why are you broadcasting the situation in Moscow to the whole world? Like, Moscow is the center of the universe? A Muscovite complex?
        1. +18
          25 November 2025 08: 22
          What's the point of counting heads? 80% of the Russian economy is big business. What "foundation" could the rest of it possibly serve? It's nothing more than picking up the scraps and plugging holes in completely unprofitable areas.
          The entire global economy is heading toward monopolization, and Moscow, like the navel of Russia, is a clear indicator of this monopolization trend. How can you not see this? You're the one asking, "Where did Kodak and Nokia go?" I'll tell you: instead of those two companies, there's now only Samsung.

          Muscovite complex?

          So what do we care? Are they embarrassed by their complexes?
          1. -4
            25 November 2025 08: 28
            Quote: Engineer
            80% of the Russian economy is big business.

            Russia is not the whole world.
            Quote: Engineer
            The entire global economy is heading towards monopolization.

            According to Lenin, within 100 years only monopolies should remain.
            Quote: Engineer
            I answer - instead of these two companies, there is now only Samsung.

            Hmm... Are all the others a mirage?
            1. +12
              25 November 2025 08: 41
              According to Lenin, within 100 years only monopolies should remain.

              This is most likely your interpretation, as I don't recall anything like that. As for the growing role of monopolies and their expansion beyond the national market—yes, there was some talk. In fact, here on the forum, they're referring precisely to "Sorosites" and "transnational companies" when talking about foreign influence.
              Russia is not the whole world.

              Yeah... Moscow isn't the whole world, Russia isn't the whole world... what's next? The US isn't the whole world? Of course it's not the whole world... but compared to the global scale, something like Lesotho is like the kiosk in my gardening community compared to the Russian economy, so it doesn't matter.
              1. -5
                25 November 2025 08: 50
                Quote: Engineer
                This is most likely your interpretation, because I don’t remember anything like that.

                Well, the author refers to it:
                Lenin noted that at the stage of imperialism, capital is concentrated in the hands of a few monopoly companies, displacing small and medium-sized businesses.

                Let's say 100 years ago they started to displace and destroy small and medium-sized businesses. 100 years pass and? Still haven't succeeded? Or was Lenin just making up some nonsense?
                Quote: Engineer
                What's next? The US is not the whole world?

                You might be surprised, but yes, the USA is not the whole world.
                Quote: Engineer
                Lesotho is the equivalent of the kiosk I have in my gardening community, compared to the Russian economy, so it doesn't matter.

                If you don't like Lesotho, try Israel. Which multinational corporations have monopolized everything in Israel?
                1. +11
                  25 November 2025 09: 10
                  Lenin noted that at the stage of imperialism, capital is concentrated in the hands of a few monopoly companies, displacing small and medium-sized businesses.

                  So where is it that ONLY monopolies will remain?
                  Is small businesses being squeezed out? Well, I've shown it in Moscow. Maybe you'll notice a trend there too. And if you're not into small businesses and want to follow global trends, the number of small businesses and startups opening there is also decreasing every year. It's even become a business strategy—to come up with something and sell out to a big corporation. Like, for example, how small courier services sold out so quickly to Yandex and Mail.ru that you probably didn't even notice.
                  It's the same among the big guys. Mergers, acquisitions, bankruptcies—everything is moving toward greater and greater monopolization. Look at the automobile market, the banking market, the electronics market... well, these are the things that are obvious, unless you really look closely.
                  So, it's all true. As I said about 100 years and 100% monopolies—that's your interpretation... so if anyone blurted out nonsense, it was you.
                  1. -2
                    25 November 2025 09: 19
                    Quote: Engineer
                    Mergers, acquisitions, bankruptcies - everything is moving towards greater and greater monopolization.

                    How long should this stop? Infinite expansion is impossible; it's not a universe. A hundred years have passed, and by that time, monopolies should have monopolized everything. However, in the US, for example, 52% of the country's population works in small and medium businesses (according to statistics). And if we take Lenin's thesis at face value, then small and medium businesses shouldn't exist at all today, because within 100 years, small and medium businesses should be ruined and absorbed.
                    1. +10
                      25 November 2025 09: 52
                      However, in the United States, 52% of the country's population works in small and medium-sized businesses (according to statistics).

                      What's the point of counting heads? What's the share of small and medium-sized businesses in the US economy? Have you looked? That's the point!

                      After what period of time should this stop?

                      But should it? Absolute monopoly is a dead end. It perfectly aligns with the goals of capitalism, but completely contradicts the methods of social development through capitalism.
                      These are the contradictions of capitalism that communists speak of. Society has reached... well, okay, it's approaching the transformation that the current social order can provide, and it must resolve these social contradictions one way or another in order to develop further.
                      This isn't the first time. There was the primitive communal system, there was slavery, there was feudalism. And no one here can give you any timeframe for the transition from one to the other.
                      As they probably would have said 200 years ago: "Where did the bourgeois revolution ever win? France? Your Napoleon became emperor himself! In short, feudalism, happiness, pray and stop inventing things."
                      1. -3
                        25 November 2025 10: 28
                        Quote: Engineer
                        These are the contradictions of capitalism that communists talk about.

                        There's no contradiction there. New monopolies emerge from small and medium-sized businesses, displacing the "old hands," which is why a normal state needs small and medium-sized businesses so much. The ratio between large and medium-sized companies will always be roughly equal, meaning there's no displacement, as the communists claimed.
                        And no one here will tell you any timeframe for the transition from one to the other.
                        ,
                        It is impossible not to agree.
                      2. 0
                        25 November 2025 11: 57
                        Quote: Engineer
                        What's the point of counting heads? What's the share of small and medium-sized businesses in the US economy? Have you looked? That's the point!

                        I looked - 43,5% of US GDP is small business?
                      3. 0
                        29 November 2025 15: 48
                        I also took a look and saw that services make up 80% of the US GDP. And the US is called a country of lawyers.
                      4. +1
                        29 November 2025 15: 56
                        Quote from shikin
                        I also took a look and saw that services make up 80% of the US GDP. And the US is called a country of lawyers.

                        So what does that mean in the context of this discussion? Even 100, as long as the standard of living is decent—that's not what we were talking about at all... Small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs) in China makes a significant contribution to the country's GDP, accounting for about 60%, if you don't want the US...
                      5. 0
                        29 November 2025 16: 09
                        The point is that small businesses typically provide services, not manufacturing, and they compete little (if at all) with multinational corporations. Furthermore, the same service in the US and China will vary greatly in price, indicating that GDP comparisons are arbitrary. Consequently, their impact on policy (especially foreign policy) is negligible.
                      6. 0
                        26 November 2025 15: 49
                        Absolute monopoly is a dead end. ... completely contradicts the methods of social development through capitalism.
                        These are the contradictions of capitalism that communists talk about.


                        For example, the damned capitalists resolve the contradiction of monopolization through antitrust legislation. For some reason, orthodox communists refuse to acknowledge its reality.

                        It [monopoly] perfectly suits the goals of capitalism


                        How do you know what this goal is? laughing

                        There was the primitive communal system, there was slavery, there was feudalism. And no one here can tell you any timeframe for the transition from one to the other.


                        Because there were no "systems"; they were just humanitarian abstractions. All pre-feudal societies are conventionally classified as "slave-owning," even if the only slaves there were the masters' concubines. But slavery in the United States is somehow not a slave-owning system.
                      7. +2
                        26 November 2025 16: 02
                        For some reason, orthodox communists do not recognize its reality.

                        Well, for example, because it doesn't work.

                        How do you know what this goal is? laughing

                        From the definition of the concept "capitalism".

                        But for some reason, slavery in the USA is not a slave system.

                        Well, maybe because even a more progressive social system can contain elements of previous ones? We don't have a slave-owning system either, but a friend of mine has been searching for his brother in the Kalmyk farmsteads for five years now.
                      8. 0
                        26 November 2025 16: 50
                        >> it doesn't work.

                        It never works straight.
                        In 1911, Standard Oil was taken apart for violating antitrust laws, but this, of course, was all just make-believe.

                        Here we smoothly move on to communist conspiracy theories - if something happens in the world that does not coincide with the theory, then it is all not real, it is all a screen with which the bourgeois reptilians hide the true state of affairs from the working class, but in fact we all live in the Matrix laughing

                        >> From the definition of the concept "capitalism".

                        "Capitalism is a socio-economic formation based on private ownership of the means of production and the exploitation of wage labor by capital."

                        And what are the goals here?

                        >> Well, maybe because even a more progressive social system can contain elements of the previous ones?

                        Wow, come on. Why then were there no slaves in some states, while there were in others?

                        >> We don’t have a slave system either, but my friend has been looking for his brother in the villages of Kalmykia for 5 years now.

                        This is criminal activity. Don't drag criminal activity into this.
                      9. 0
                        26 November 2025 18: 19
                        communist conspiracy theories

                        So far, conspiracy theories are only coming from you.
                        In 1911, Standard Oil

                        I don't even know... Microsoft, for example, could have been a more recent example... But really, what's the point in individual cases when the trend toward increasing monopolization of the global economy is clear? And it doesn't really matter whether this manifests itself in the form of oligopolies like Magnit and X5retail or absolute monopolies like Russian Railways.
                        Or are you also going to start telling me that everything is wrong and that this is a communist conspiracy theory? laughing

                        And what are the goals here?

                        Maybe it's the part of the definition you "accidentally" missed? You know... the one about capital growth and profit.

                        Why then was there no slavery in some states, while there was in others?

                        And? What's the contradiction with what I wrote?
                      10. +1
                        27 November 2025 10: 54
                        Quote: Engineer
                        And? What's the contradiction with what I wrote?

                        You are right about the Russian Federation, but you are wrong in projecting the situation in the Russian Federation onto the entire world. hi
                    2. +7
                      25 November 2025 10: 58
                      Already 45% of businesses work in this sector in the US, a percentage that has declined in recent years. The share of SMEs in the US economy and industrial production is lower than the share of those employed in it among the total workforce. Furthermore, according to US law, SMEs are defined as enterprises with fewer than 500 employees. Moreover, medium-sized businesses are much more powerful than small and micro businesses. This lumping of micro, small, and medium-sized businesses into a single category is somewhat artificial. By Russian standards, medium-sized businesses aren't really that medium-sized, and small businesses aren't that small. What's considered small in Russia is more like micro in the US.
                    3. 0
                      26 November 2025 02: 17
                      It's not written anywhere that only monopolies will remain. It's written that their role will increase and that of the petty bourgeoisie will decrease. Are we observing? - We are. Is it written anywhere that the big guys will become 80, 90, 95 percent and then stop there? - No. The trend is outlined within the framework of capitalism. Capitalism continues. Is the trend working? - Yes, it is working. What's not to like?
                      1. 0
                        26 November 2025 15: 52
                        And what should this "role" of the petty bourgeoisie consist of, how can it be measured, is it high or low, and when was it ever high and where?

                        I can personally recall one example: the Third Reich in Soviet propaganda, as a "dictatorship of small shopkeepers." But clearly, that wasn't the case in reality; propaganda simply couldn't admit that the Nazis' extras were provided by their fellow proletarians.

                        Ah, well, yes. Basically, something similar happened in Rhodesia, where "small shopkeepers" also dispersed apartheid, but firstly, there were plenty of hired workers among them, and secondly, I still doubt their position was in strong conflict with that of the large landowners.
                      2. +1
                        27 November 2025 00: 08
                        It's very simple. The percentage of production and distribution. Walk around your neighborhood and remember the names of the mid-sized stores that are now occupied by chain stores. How many local small banks are left in your area? Manufacturing of any kind is everywhere—large companies. The small companies either get something new (but not for long), or small items they can easily do without, or they have low profit margins.
                      3. +1
                        27 November 2025 10: 55
                        Quote from Hipper
                        It's very simple. The percentage of production and distribution. Walk around your neighborhood and remember the names of the mid-sized stores that are now occupied by chain stores. How many local small banks are left in your area? Manufacturing of any kind is everywhere—large companies. The small companies either get something new (but not for long), or small items they can easily do without, or they have low profit margins.

                        or services that are difficult or not as profitable to make networked and global, like trade.
                      4. 0
                        27 November 2025 19: 11
                        Do you know what a "franchise" is?
                        And by the way, I live outside the city, and here in the area we have plenty of small shops and local chains.

                        "The production of anything is always a big deal"—I'm sorry to disappoint you, but when producing "anything," they often rely on suppliers for certain very important parts that the big guys don't have time for. And repairing what the big guys have managed to churn out is now no less important than purchasing it.

                        Banks are a different story. The banking sector is striving for monopoly, yes. But banks aren't just found in our country.
                      5. +1
                        28 November 2025 01: 07
                        Besides the word "franchise," do you know concepts like outsourcing and outstaffing? We've also seen the emergence of self-employed individuals. Incidentally, a franchise is a monopoly that gives the illusion of being a private entrepreneur. In reality, you're an employee of this monopoly, which has also shouldered all the business risks.
                        When producing "anything" they often use suppliers of some very important gadgets that the big guys don't have time for
                        What's the contradiction? That's what I wrote about. As long as it's profitable to leave these small fry alone, let them cut up the parts. But the tendency to absorb them is there.
                        What does "in our country or not our country" have to do with this? The article is about the global economy.
                        By the way, I live outside the city too. Yes, there are some small shops. But then I discovered that in the area, two seemingly completely different shops belong to the same person.
                        And in general, one shouldn't confuse the artificial legal division of economic entities with their actual position in the economic structure. Large businesses formally split themselves into smaller companies to avoid taxes and minimize risks. Meanwhile, the owners remain the same.
                2. +3
                  25 November 2025 11: 20
                  You are so great at maneuvering concepts, ignoring the sequence of historical events.

                  Let's say 100 years ago they started to displace and destroy small and medium-sized businesses. 100 years pass and? Still haven't succeeded? Or was Lenin just making up some nonsense?


                  Why did you throw out two world wars, the creation of three empires, and the explosive growth of American corporations on the bloodshed? When V.I. Lenin wrote his work, he wrote this forecast for the current course of history, which does not include world wars and the destruction of large monopolies in defeated and collapsed states. In Soviet times, the Antonov Design Bureau gave the world first-class air carriers, which, with the right connections and wise management, could have crushed the cargo sector of Boeing and Airbus. Say hello to the AN-70. But the USSR was destroyed, and the Antonov Design Bureau and the plant lost their established connections. And the Anglo-Saxon world did everything to bury this plant. It would seem... Free Ukraine, all connections are open. There is access to technology - so where is Antonov now?
                  Or here's another example: production of lithographs for chip production using 4 and 2 nm technology? Hypothetically, you have 100 billion, you're registered as a taxpayer in Europe, and you want to buy a lithograph for Russia – can you do that?... The question is rhetorical.
                  It's transnational corporations that destroy competition so as not to invest in development. Maximum profit with minimal investment.
                  Capitalism was needed by humanity as a step forward, but it is certainly not possible to leave this system as the fundamental one.

                  London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                  1. -4
                    25 November 2025 11: 32
                    Why did you throw out two world wars, create three empires and the rapid growth of American corporations on the blood?

                    Probably because Comrade Lenin didn't rule out war, but rather predicted it. Let's take the period from 1950 to the present. So what? Did US monopolists crush medium-sized businesses and SMEs? Absolutely not, the ratio hasn't changed much.
                    Quote: PROXOR
                    which, with the right connections and wise management, could have strangled the Boeing and Airbus cargo sector

                    And how? The freight market is vast, with plenty of room.
                    Quote: PROXOR
                    Hypothetically, you have 100 billion, you are registered as a taxpayer in Gayrope and want to buy a lithograph for Russia - can you do it?

                    Of course not, the sanctions have been in place since 2014.
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                      25 November 2025 11: 55
                      No, the ratio hasn't changed much.

                      In 1950, the number of banks in the United States was approximately 13,000. The exact number varies depending on the data source and classification, but according to TAdviser and the FDIC, the number of banks in the United States has declined significantly since then, falling to fewer than 4700 by 2023.

                      Truly... nothing has changed. They used to say "too average to fail."
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                        25 November 2025 12: 13
                        Quote: Engineer
                        Truly... nothing has changed.

                        Mmm... banks are certainly a business too... But what about small arms manufacturers? Why is their number growing so rapidly, with only a few large companies and thousands of small ones? Unlike banks, you have to do the work yourself...
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                        25 November 2025 12: 15
                        I have no idea - I'm not a firearms expert, not even close.
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                        25 November 2025 12: 31
                        Quote: Engineer
                        I have no idea - I'm not a firearms expert, not even close.

                        But as an engineer (as your nickname suggests), you should understand that small arms production requires the appropriate equipment, staff, and much more. This isn't some amateurish endeavor like cutting cutting boards with a jigsaw. Thousands of companies have opened manufacturing small arms for the civilian market, and their products have been reviewed on this site. This is a medium-sized, licensed, high-tech business.
                      4. +2
                        25 November 2025 12: 52
                        Production – maybe. Any tweaking and trimming, like at a "gun ranch," is unlikely. I have no idea what these companies are. What is this supposed to prove? – Also, no idea. A surge in a particular area? Well, it happens, but it doesn't disrupt the trend.
                        At one time, computer technology was developed by a multitude of companies. There were processors from companies like Cyrix, Ti, IBM, ST, Winchip, not to mention Intel and AMD. And that was quite recently – in the 90s. There was a surge in a new direction. Now, it only takes two tries to guess which company your processor is.
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                        25 November 2025 13: 22
                        Quote: Engineer
                        At one time, computer technology was developed by a bunch of companies

                        Only the selection was carried out by the buyer, and not by the blue giant and Co.
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                        25 November 2025 19: 00
                        Quote: Puncher
                        Quote: Engineer
                        Truly... nothing has changed.

                        Mmm... banks are certainly a business too... But what about small arms manufacturers? Why is their number growing so rapidly, with only a few large companies and thousands of small ones? Unlike banks, you have to do the work yourself...

                        Let me express my opinion on the question you asked?
                        ... In short, the margin is not the same!
                        Capitalists don't have time for such things yet. For now, the Labayevs are buying metal and machine tools from larger manufacturers; they're attractive as a source of income as consumers. When they suddenly become "fat," they'll crush them, go bankrupt, or buy them out—depending on the situation...
                        The engineer is telling you about this, IMHO. hi
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                        25 November 2025 19: 16
                        Quote: AAG
                        they will buy it up, depending on the situation

                        Well, that's what happened here, they stole rifle production, but it wasn't monopolists who did it, it was corporate raiders. Shpakovsky recently wrote an article about Taurus in the US. SV bought Taurus, but didn't bankrupt it. They continued making weapons, and then the Brazilians bought it back, and then they themselves bought Beretta. Now Taurus is one of the world's leading firearms manufacturers. Lenin's theses didn't quite work.
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                        25 November 2025 19: 25
                        "... Lenin's theses didn't seem to work..."
                        Well, apparently it's not time yet.
                        You certainly don't take everything so categorically. The trend has been emerging for a long time. V.I.L. gave a clear justification for it. We are witnessing his correctness in all its glory (in this regard, the Russian Federation is emerging as a leader). feel ).
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                        25 November 2025 19: 29
                        Quote: AAG
                        In this regard, the Russian Federation is becoming a leader

                        Hmm... We certainly have capitalism, but it's a kleptocracy. Lenin even wrote to me about it. He probably wasn't interested in it because it was the least dangerous.
                      10. Aag
                        -1
                        25 November 2025 19: 57
                        It was hard to predict such a perversion.)))
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                        25 November 2025 20: 01
                        Quote: AAG
                        It was hard to predict such a perversion.)))

                        Such regimes are typical of backward countries like Haiti during the time of "Papa Doc"; they are simply uninteresting.
                      12. +1
                        26 November 2025 00: 18
                        Quote: Puncher
                        He probably wasn't interested in that.

                        I don't think he could have imagined anything like this even in his wildest dreams.
                        Quote: Puncher
                        because it is the least dangerous

                        Probably just the opposite. Grandpa would say, what is the most dangerous
                    2. 0
                      25 November 2025 12: 12
                      Probably because Comrade Lenin didn't rule out war, but rather predicted it. Let's take the period from 1950 to the present. So what? Did US monopolists crush medium-sized businesses and SMEs? Absolutely not, the ratio hasn't changed much.

                      Or isn't it? Small coffee shop chains, convenience stores, and other services have been overtaken by transnational corporations. Can you find a simple grocery store in the States? You'll have to search a LONG time. But Walmarts and similar megastores are everywhere. Same with coffee shops. Starbucks is devouring the market like a virus.
                      Homemade pizzas, food, and many other things that flourished in the post-war era are now extinct in the States. They couldn't withstand the competition.
                      Where are car brands like Doblo, Studebaker, Packard, and Buick in the States? They've been swallowed up by the Big Three.
                      So, Lenin didn't rule out war, and in fact, it was precisely war that helped American monopolists devour their global competitors. Take the Daewoo brand, which was sold in Russia under the Chevrolet brand.
                      And how? The freight market is vast, with plenty of room.

                      The same way Boeing and Airbus are currently crushing everyone. The number of kilograms per liter of fuel transported around the world is minimal, with the lowest costs for aircraft maintenance and crew salaries. Even today, the largest aircraft is the Soviet An-124, and it handles all the heavy lifting. But if you give this aircraft more fuel-efficient P&W or GE engines, or even the RR, plus modern avionics and a crew reduction to 2-3, you've got an excellent carrier of open and containerized cargo.
                      Of course not, the sanctions have been in place since 2014.

                      Yeah. They're going too far))) You're being naive, comrade. I recommend reading up on the history of the USSR and how it acquired Toshiba propeller polishing equipment. The scandal back then was quite serious.

                      London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
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                        25 November 2025 12: 24
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        Networks of small coffee shops, stores, and other services have been shut down by transnational corporations.

                        What there are plenty of are small cafes and street food, and Starbucks is in crisis.
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        But Walmarts and similar megamarkets are everywhere there.

                        The realm of shopping malls, yes. Because the format was more appealing to people, as George Carlin said, "the perfect place to eat and shop." But now the trend is toward fewer shopping malls. And by the way, Walmart isn't a monopoly; there are plenty of "no-names" there (for us, of course). How many have you heard of Dollar General, for example?
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        Where in the States are such car brands as Doblo, Studebaker, Packard, Buick?

                        In the same place as Detroit.
                      2. +1
                        25 November 2025 12: 38
                        What there are plenty of are small cafes and street food, and Starbucks is in crisis.

                        No, no. I'm not talking about street food here, but home bakeries, pizzerias, and so on. All they sell these days is reheated semi-finished products. And who produces semi-finished products?
                        Starbucks may be in crisis, but its global network suggests otherwise. And the reason for the budget overruns remains to be seen. A Starbucks crisis sounds as ridiculous as the AvtoVAZ crisis in Russia.
                        The realm of shopping malls, yes. Because the format was more appealing to people, as George Carlin said, "the perfect place to eat and shop." But now the trend is toward fewer shopping malls. And by the way, Walmart isn't a monopoly; there are plenty of "no-names" there (for us, of course). How many have you heard of Dollar General, for example?

                        I know. Why? Because grocery delivery is happening directly to homes around the world. Jeff Bezos and Amazon are proof.
                        In the same place as Detroit.
                        EXACTLY.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                      3. -1
                        25 November 2025 13: 14
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        Why? Because the process of direct grocery delivery to homes is underway around the world.

                        Well, it's all a question of profitability. Just like baking. It's not the work of a malicious monopolist. I never heard of retailers like Walmart targeting Bezos in his early days, when he still owned a small company, to get rid of a competitor.
                      4. +1
                        25 November 2025 13: 27
                        Well, it's all a question of profitability. Just like baking. It's not the work of a malicious monopolist. I never heard of retailers like Walmart targeting Bezos in his early days, when he still owned a small company, to get rid of a competitor.

                        Not a good indicator at all. Elon Musk wasn't even noticed. They just twirled their heads. He released a roadster (a failed project), but he learned from his mistakes and released the Tesla Model S, and the world changed its mind about electric cars. So much so that now everyone and their dog is working on this topic. Even if it's basically unnecessary for the brand's customers (Porsche, for example). And it goes without saying how far the Chinese have come in this regard.
                        And now Elon has launched a space race, and our Roscosmos, which had been resting on its laurels and not developing, has found itself in a well-known place. Although Roscosmos has had a reusable system for a long time. And I'm not talking about Bura or Buran. Right now, the only progress is military or exploiting human laziness. And what can we say about monopolists, when the mattress makers are strangling everyone they can with their penguin supplies, if, God forbid, someone dared to buy the "wrong" weapons from Russia.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                      5. -1
                        25 November 2025 17: 54
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        And now Elon has started a space race.

                        This is a good example, by the way. ULA was charging the Pentagon and NASA $240 million for an Atlas 5 launch and $400 million for a Delta 4. The company was a true monopoly, and there was no one in the US who could compete. Then a small startup like SpaceX showed up and started offering the same thing for half the price.
                        ULA had such a huge margin on launches, it was incredible. They bent everyone over so much that they were paid in full even for launches that failed due to the customer's fault! Like, the satellite isn't ready, whatever, pay up. So, according to all the communists and leftists, this monopolist should have wiped Musk off the face of the earth and kicked him to Pretoria. In other words, they would commit ANY crime for the sake of profit. Could they have done this with their powerful lobby in Congress? Easily. Suitcase-train station-South Africa or Canada. What did ULA's owners, Boeing and LM, do? Nothing. Absolutely. And SpaceX at the time was a mediocre company. And when did they start talking about Musk's extradition, claiming he obtained his citizenship in violation of the law? When he got involved in politics. So, Comrade Lenin was wrong. His scheme doesn't work.
                      6. +1
                        26 November 2025 09: 54
                        ULA had such a huge margin on launches, it was unbelievable. They'd screwed everyone over so much that they were paid in full even for launches that failed due to the customer's fault! Like, "The satellite isn't ready, whatever, pay up." So, according to all the communists and leftists, this monopolist should have wiped Musk off the face of the earth and kicked him to Pretoria. In other words, they were willing to commit ANY crime for the sake of profit.

                        Who's to say they didn't? They probably did, and how. It's just that Elon has a ton of cash and lobbying power. And when he joined the space race, he didn't come as a snotty, green-eyed dreamer, but as a seasoned business warrior. That's the whole story.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                      7. -1
                        26 November 2025 09: 59
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        It's just that Elon has a lot of money and a lobby to spare.

                        Are you kidding? Back then, he was one of 22 million millionaires, and no more, and a migrant worker to boot... He still doesn't have much of a lobby.
                      8. 0
                        26 November 2025 10: 03
                        Are you kidding? Back then, he was one of 22 million millionaires, and no more, and a migrant worker to boot... He still doesn't have much of a lobby.

                        lol lol winked The man has access to the Oval Office. Well, of course. He doesn't have a lobby. Maybe they should stop spouting nonsense and be afraid to spill it. Elon, damn it, managed to star in Iron Man 2. And all you can do is write nonsense.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                      9. -2
                        26 November 2025 10: 40
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        The man has access to the Oval Office.

                        Don't exaggerate. He fought his way there for a long time and only got there after becoming who he is today. At the beginning of his career, he could only get in on a guided tour (which is open to anyone).
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        Elon fucking managed to star in Iron Man 2.

                        We found an indicator. They'll easily cast you in a cameo there for money. As long as your wallet can handle it.
                      10. -2
                        26 November 2025 16: 01
                        Do you know what a "franchise" is?
                  2. -2
                    26 November 2025 15: 55
                    It's strange that people with orthodox communist beliefs praise Engels for predicting the First World War (back in the 1880s) while simultaneously making excuses for Lenin's failure to predict it. And apparently he hasn't read Engels?
                    1. +1
                      26 November 2025 17: 01
                      and at the same time they excuse Lenin from the fact that he was unable to predict the First World War.
                      Oh, right. It doesn't matter that Lenin isn't a prophet. He wrote a work on his reflections on capitalism.
                      And you apparently haven't read Engels?

                      I didn't drink to brotherhood with you, so you can point fingers at me. You're a HAM, sir!

                      London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
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                        26 November 2025 17: 21
                        You, sir, suffer from dyslexia, otherwise you would have understood that the phrase "haven't read" refers to Lenin. laughing
                        It is because of all these difficulties in perceiving printed texts that a belief arises in infallible authorities like Lenin, who wrote something clever and it is better not to argue with them. bully
                      2. 0
                        26 November 2025 17: 31
                        You, sir, suffer from dyslexia, otherwise you would have understood that the phrase "haven't read" refers to Lenin.
                        It is because of all these difficulties in perceiving printed texts that a belief arises in infallible authorities like Lenin, who wrote something clever and it is better not to argue with them.


                        The same can be said about you.
                        And your skewed understanding of authority and your flaunting of your own ignorance speaks of a profound delusion of grandeur. You should get yourself checked out...
                        No matter your attitude towards V.I. Lenin, you certainly cannot argue that he was not only a far-sighted politician, but also a man of his time.
                        It is your right to agree or disagree with his theses, but you will have to acknowledge the fact that this person knew more than Val and also had more information than you.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                      3. -1
                        26 November 2025 17: 44
                        But he still hadn't read Engels. Or he had read him but didn't take him into account. Otherwise, he would have assumed that Germany, at least in theory, could unleash a world war. laughing

                        You know, there are some doubts about Lenin's foresight, given that his reckless policies led to enormous problems (to put it mildly). As for tactics—that's true; Ilyich was a master of them. Lenin's most far-sighted achievement was electrification, but that wasn't his alone.
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                        27 November 2025 11: 03
                        But I still haven't read Engels. Or I read him but didn't take him into account. Otherwise, I would have assumed that Germany, at least in theory, could start a world war.

                        How do you know? Were they holding a candle? I've read a lot, too, but I don't quote or reference everything. I consider these to be isolated conclusions of the realm of fantasy, so I certainly won't cite them. Incidentally, many of Lenin's contemporaries, like himself, didn't believe in a world war due to the equal forces of the opposing sides. In fact, that's exactly what happened. The small German operation was based on driving Russia out of the Balkans by quickly destroying the regime in Serbia and seizing its territory for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. What then spiraled out of control ultimately led to a world war. And all subsequent events show that no one intended to fight an equal enemy. This is where the theory comes from that Lenin didn't foresee the First World War. Many didn't foresee it.

                        You know, there are certain doubts about Lenin’s foresight, given that his adventurous policies led to enormous problems (to put it mildly).

                        Come on. Enormous problems were created by the spinelessness of the last Emperor, who couldn't even protect his own family. Then came the gamble of playing at democracy after the February Revolution. So, in the fall of 1917, Lenin had to literally pull what remained of the country back from the brink of oblivion. A half-annexed country, a disintegrating army, a massive food shortage. All the decisions of those years were dictated by external factors, which V.I. Lenin could only observe and minimize the consequences. Short-sighted decisions, you say? It was Lenin who quickly stopped the persecution of various tsarist specialists, primarily officers and law enforcement. Lenin essentially exterminated a class of the population that lived off parasitism: bankers, politicians, ordinary nobles and landowners. Those who produced nothing but excrement. And he did the right thing.

                        The most far-sighted thing Lenin did was electrification, but this was not his alone.

                        The most far-sighted thing was a universally educated population. This first step subsequently produced many outstanding specialists in their fields. And naturally, he did not do this alone, as V.I. Lenin held the position of Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars. He and his associates determined the vector of the country's development after October 1917.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
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                        27 November 2025 21: 06
                        >> did not believe in a world war due to the equality of forces of the opposing sides.

                        This only goes to show that Lenin wasn't the prophet some people try to make him out to be. As if equality of power ever stopped anyone.

                        >> no one, in principle, intended to fight an equal opponent.

                        And dreadnoughts were just churned out for fun. And did the cannons and machine guns for the army also just pop up in warehouses?

                        >> All decisions of those years were dictated by external factors, which V.I. Lenin could only observe and minimize the consequences.

                        Lenin was never wrong about anything, even when he crushed all alternative parties. War Communism was also a brilliant idea, so what if it led to a decline in production and hyperinflation?

                        >> It was Lenin who quickly stopped the persecution of tsarist specialists of various fields

                        Well, this happened after it became clear that factory committees couldn't cope without specialists, elected commanders couldn't cope without specialists, and some of the specialists had already migrated abroad.
                      6. 0
                        28 November 2025 10: 24
                        I've realized one thing about you. You're a natural-born troll.
                        I've written two reports on you. Wait for your arrival.
                      7. -1
                        28 November 2025 16: 05
                        Gee, there's no way around censorship and repression, right? The best way to conduct a debate is to pressure your opponent, right? )))
                        And then your like-minded people are surprised that communists are not popular laughing
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                    26 November 2025 15: 59
                    But to get to the point, you're writing doctrinaire. It's understandable that the (very naive) citizens of the late Soviet era dreamed of entering the global market, only to be crushed. Logical. But firstly, not all citizens were so naive; some knew exactly what they wanted and, in principle, achieved success. Others achieved success because the international market situation was such that it was difficult to crush anyone there (i.e., it wasn't a stereotypical market of perfect competition, but it wasn't a monopoly either, but a well-established oligopoly).

                    That's why, for example, the aircraft industry died, but the automobile industry held on a little longer, and Rosatom is doing just fine.
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                      26 November 2025 17: 24
                      That's why, for example, the aircraft industry died, but the automobile industry held on a little longer, and Rosatom is doing just fine.

                      No offense, but you have to be a VERY narrow-minded person to write something like that.
                      1. Aircraft manufacturing - Soviet civil aviation served a single customer, with no need to develop aircraft with cost-effective operating conditions in the capitalist world. For example, the Tu-154, the mainstay of civil aviation in the 1980s, was more fuel-hungry due to its three engines and four-person crew, compared to two for Western manufacturers. Soviet aircraft also had far less automated controls, hence the need for a flight engineer and navigator. The aircraft industry has a significant lead in developing aircraft from scratch, from conceptual design to certified flight prototype. Naturally, with the flood of imported aircraft entering the country that met all economic requirements and could be serviced in other countries, carriers chose the simplest and cheapest way to expand their fleets: buying Boeings and Airbuses. Developing a new Tu-154 or Il-100 from scratch in a short timeframe without funding (which, before the collapse of the USSR, had come from the state budget) was simply IMPOSSIBLE.

                      2. The automotive industry. A standing ovation. It survived thanks to cheap cars. Even with an open market and the availability of foreign cars, Moskvichs, VAZs, and Volgas sold well in the impoverished Russian market due to their price. Those who were able to adapt survived. The Moskvich, unfortunately, sank into oblivion, VAZ was saved by the French, and the Volga disappeared, but the plant reoriented itself in time to produce LCVs (Gazelle). The truck sector also suffered: ZIL disappeared, GAZ was kept afloat by funding it with Gazelles, KAMAZ, and Uralaz thanks to defense government contracts. What's going on now? Despite all the opportunities to produce modern cars, greedy capitalists have recycled what they managed to produce on the open market before the 2022 sanctions and are lobbying for prohibitive duties... aka scrap tax. Domestic automobile industry = survival = acceptable price level with at least minimal amenities.
                      Take the same Vesta, which everyone's so tired of. Upgrade the 16-valve engine to include phase shifters and turbocharging. Improve the interior's ergonomics. Lower the price to 1 million, and the car will sell twice as fast as its Chinese counterparts. But... it's still the same old, notorious capitalism in a closed market, and we have what we have.

                      3. The nuclear industry. There are no words here. They took what only two or three countries in the world had, set the lowest prices, and entered the market. There's no need to modernize the already cutting-edge enriched uranium production. People flocked to it, of course, and so successfully that even the US ditched its enriched uranium program. And for Russia, it's a good source of foreign exchange earnings, on par with gas and oil.

                      London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
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                        26 November 2025 17: 40
                        >> Aircraft manufacturing - Soviet civil aviation operated for a single customer

                        That is, it was a monopolist. Who said that socialism is state capitalism?
                        The humor is that, in support of how monopolists in the West suppress competition and lead society to crisis, you cite examples of socialist practices that can be interpreted precisely as monopolistic dictatorship, to an even greater extent than in the West, which ultimately led to the demise of the entire socialist bloc (while Western monopoly has not yet led to the demise of capitalist countries).
                        By the way, you obviously didn’t take export into account, but oh well.

                        >> The Tu-154, the mainstay of civil aviation in the 1980s, was more fuel-hungry due to its three engines and a crew of four, compared to two for Western manufacturers.

                        Stagnation, like with any monopoly. I don't understand, are you citing these as advantages of the Soviet system?

                        >> Soviet aircraft had far less automated controls.

                        We all know about stagnation.

                        >> Naturally, with imported aircraft flooding into the country... carriers chose... to buy Boeings and Airbuses.

                        Clearly, that's how it was. What exactly are you trying to refute? You yourself have just proven that the collapse of the post-Soviet aircraft industry was objectively predetermined, and not at all due to the unfair play of evil monopolists. If someone in the post-Soviet space had needed to save the aircraft industry, they obviously would have foreseen all these problems.

                        >> Automotive industry. I give a standing ovation. It was kept afloat by cheap cars.

                        So what?
                        And didn't China rise due to cheap consumer goods? laughing
                        That's how competition works: you have to be effective in your niche. AvtoVAZ was once super-effective in its niche.

                        >> overfed capitalists have put on the conveyor belt what they managed to produce on the open market before the 2022 sanctions and are lobbying for prohibitive tariffs...

                        In other words, they're practicing monopoly in the worst sense of the word. But note that it wasn't evil global monopolists who strangled the Russian automotive industry. Because if that were true, it would have died out in the early 90s. It's Russian monopolists who are trying to strangle their competitors, but doing so in an effort to undermine the global market. That's why you continue writing about a closed market, not an open one. This isn't a global trend, but rather resistance to it. And again, what were you trying to prove?

                        >> The nuclear industry. There are no words here. They took what only two or three countries in the world had.

                        It doesn't matter that there were 2-3. Actually, a little more. The important thing is that no monopolization in the sense you're implying occurred here. No one stopped domestic nuclear scientists from making money.
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                        27 November 2025 10: 43
                        Either take off the cross or put on pants. And read the whole thing IN FULL!
                        That is, it was a monopolist. Who said that socialism is state capitalism?
                        The humor is that, in support of how monopolists in the West suppress competition and lead society to crisis, you cite examples of socialist practices that can be interpreted precisely as monopolistic dictatorship, to an even greater extent than in the West, which ultimately led to the demise of the entire socialist bloc (while Western monopoly has not yet led to the demise of capitalist countries).
                        By the way, you obviously didn’t take export into account, but oh well.

                        Firstly, a state monopoly is impossible in a socialist system, since the sole service provider is the STATE-OWNED company Aeroflot. I'm about to reveal a secret, but in the USSR, all enterprises and services were provided by nationalized and newly built STATE-OWNED factories. What competition did Aeroflot suppress? fool
                        Stagnation, like with any monopoly. I don't understand, are you citing these as advantages of the Soviet system?
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                        We all know about stagnation.

                        You didn't read the previous post carefully. It stated that aircraft for the civilian market were developed under a single customer's specifications, which required at least three engines for aircraft of this capacity, and automation functions were delegated to human workers. Therefore, Tupolev, Ilyushin, Yakovlev, and Antonov all produced aircraft under the specifications of a single STATE customer. What stagnation can there be in the UPOZH? Only if that's your worldview.
                        Clearly, that's how it was. What exactly are you trying to refute? You yourself have just proven that the collapse of the post-Soviet aircraft industry was objectively predetermined, and not at all due to the unfair play of evil monopolists. If someone in the post-Soviet space had needed to save the aircraft industry, they obviously would have foreseen all these problems.

                        This is a completely futuristic conclusion. Yesterday, there was one country with laws aimed at improving the quality of life for its citizens, and today, there's another with legislation at the level of business development. I'll say it again: you're talking nonsense and afraid to spill it.

                        So what?
                        Didn't China rise thanks to cheap consumer goods?
                        That's how competition works: you have to be effective in your niche. AvtoVAZ was once super-effective in its niche.

                        THAT'S EXACTLY IT. As long as it was cheap, it was forgiven for everything. Including idiotic technical solutions and those made 20-30 years ago.

                        In other words, they're practicing monopoly in the worst sense of the word. But note that it wasn't evil global monopolists who strangled the Russian automotive industry. Because if that were true, it would have died out in the early 90s. It's Russian monopolists who are trying to strangle their competitors, but doing so in an effort to undermine the global market. That's why you continue writing about a closed market, not an open one. This isn't a global trend, but rather resistance to it. And again, what were you trying to prove?

                        RZHUVVOICE! Everything's in the same bowl again. Take the market BEFORE and AFTER. Until 2022, we had an open market with tons of opportunities. Moreover, the government took the right steps to localize production in Russia. And everything was normal. Russia was filled with quite comfortable cars, and at the same time, it FORCED AvtoVAZ, UAZ, KAMAZ, GAZ, and UralAZ to move forward. And what about now? A closed market with a prohibitive recycling fee and Lenin's thesis about monopolistic market devourment in all its glory. Where is V.I. Lenin wrong here? Read your own books.
                        It doesn't matter that there were 2-3. Actually, a little more. The important thing is that no monopolization in the sense you're implying occurred here. No one stopped domestic nuclear scientists from making money.

                        What monopolization of Russia's nuclear industry?! What are you talking about? Who in their right mind would hand over uranium enrichment technology to private companies?

                        I highly recommend a calming week. I haven't read such nonsense in a long time.

                        London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
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                        27 November 2025 20: 18
                        >> Firstly, there can be no state monopoly in a socialist system, since the only service provider is the STATE company Aeroflot.

                        So what, state-owned companies can’t be monopolists?

                        >> What competition did Aeroflot crush?

                        Potential. All unrealized projects that Aeroflot found unnecessary.

                        >> the development of aircraft for the civilian market was carried out under the specifications of a single customer

                        We're aware of the stagnation, and the customer was also aware of the stagnation. The electronics' capabilities were what they were designed for, and that's what the order was for. It's all logical, I don't understand what's causing your outrage. Surely the customer couldn't have asked for an extra crew member to be removed just to accommodate electronics that weren't available.

                        >> Yesterday there was one country with its own laws aimed at the quality of life of citizens, and today there is another country with legislation at the level of business development.

                        So what? How does this refute all the other arguments? Some industries survived, others didn't, and no one deliberately suppressed them.
                        The decision to enter the global market was made by the elite of that first country, with party cards and impeccable credentials; no one forced them. But you're saying it was the Martians who did it.
                        Tell those who lived in communal apartments for years about the quality of life. Of course, compared to what the former communists created in the 90s, it seems like a lost golden age, but only in comparison.

                        >> As long as she was cheap, they forgave her everything.

                        Mother Japan, who stopped our new Russians of old Soviet origin from modernizing their technology? It was our quirk—to plunder the Soviet legacy and exploit it to the limit, investing minimally in new developments.

                        >> And what about now? Closed market

                        So it wasn't us who closed it, and the reasons weren't economic, but geopolitical. And of course, from the perspective of "Lenin's theses," geopolitics is a whore of monopoly interests, and the fact that the sanctions war has inflicted economic damage on everyone, and it's still unclear whether Europeans will survive it, is irrelevant, right?
                        By the way, regarding the “right steps” in terms of localization, for some reason, when the chips were down, it immediately became clear that little had been done.

                        >> What monopolization of Russia's nuclear industry?! What are you talking about? Who in their right mind would hand over uranium enrichment technology to private companies?

                        So what, state-owned companies can't be monopolies? Incidentally, in the foreign market, both state-owned and private companies operate in exactly the same way.

                        >> I haven't read such nonsense in a long time.

                        You're just used to butting heads with liberals, but when someone comes onto your field, you immediately get lost.
                3. +1
                  26 November 2025 15: 43
                  Incidentally, communist authors fail to distinguish between franchises and large businesses, don't perceive small contractors as full-fledged market participants (or are unaware of their existence); they may themselves write about how the damned bourgeoisie deliberately pushes people out of the workforce, but at the same time, they don't consider these "outsiders" to be small businessmen, despite their independence—like, "it's all make-believe." And so on.
          2. 0
            25 November 2025 11: 58
            Quote: Engineer
            So what do we care? Are we embarrassed by our complexes?

            You're not even ashamed of your illiteracy - why should you have complexes?
            Explain to us, people from the periphery, what are the underlying reasons for the budget deficit in Moscow?
            According to the law signed by Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin on November 13, 2024, in 2025, Moscow budget revenues are planned at 5,1 trillion rubles, and expenditures at 5,6 trillion rubles. deficit - 461 billion rubles.

            Some budget items:
            Development of metro lines - 279 billion rubles.
            For comparison:
            As of October 2025, the draft federal budget for railway development, including high-speed rail construction, allocates 555 billion rubles under the state program "Transport System Development" for the next three years.
            In addition, in 2025, the Russian government plans to allocate 300 billion rubles from the National Welfare Fund for the construction of a high-speed railway line between Moscow and St. Petersburg.

            Improvement of parks and museum-reserves - 34,5 billion rubles.
            For comparison:
            Every summer in Siberia and the Far East, forests and nature reserves burn down and no one cares...
            Organizing fairs - 6 billion rubles.
            Are there not enough Cherkizons and Crocuses in Moscow???
            * * *
            stop Why should you be embarrassed by the cash flows that come to Moscow in the form of taxes from the regions?
            1. +1
              25 November 2025 12: 12
              Explain to us, people from the periphery, what are the reasons behind the budget deficit in Moscow?

              And what does this have to do with the topic of conversation? Or are you just trying to pick on a Muscovite? Believe it or not, all those billions of rubles you mentioned are going past my pocket, and I'm not the one receiving your taxes, just like 99% of Muscovites. Actually, I was talking about the situation in Russia and the world using Moscow as an example... and I hope it's clear that I'm not thrilled with the current state of affairs either.
              Or are you asking me to cry and repent to you just because I was born in Moscow during the Soviet era? Well, that's what they call being embarrassed by some kind of complexes? drinks

              And yes, there aren't many markets. You have to travel far.
            2. 0
              25 November 2025 13: 49
              Let me answer you as a person who was born and lives here.
              You're not even ashamed of your illiteracy - why should you have complexes?
              Explain to us, people from the periphery, what are the underlying reasons for the budget deficit in Moscow?

              I'll give a simple answer. This Sobyakin destroyed our capital's entire industrial cluster. Giants like AZLK, ZIL, and Hammer and Sickle were closed and wiped off the face of the earth. Mikoyan moved out. A huge number of smaller factories and plants were also shuttered.
              And those who live in Moscow criticize him for this. They even asked him awkward questions when they met. Now this Sobyakin is leasing properties, but people aren't allowed to see him when he comes. They're apparently afraid he'll get offended and move to Tyumen (good riddance to the bastard).
              The expectation is that Moscow will become a kind of Manhattan or London, where prices are exorbitant and ordinary people have no place. So here we are, living out our lives, while our children and grandchildren are already living and will continue to live beyond the Moscow Ring Road.
              Improvement of parks and museum-reserves — 34,5 billion rubles.
              For comparison:
              Every summer in Siberia and the Far East, forests and nature reserves burn down and no one cares...
              Organization of fairs — 6 billion rubles.
              Are there not enough Cherkizons and Crocuses in Moscow???


              Believe me, I would close down all the shopping centers to hell.
              I have a LOT of questions for Sobyakin about the fact that funds, especially subsidized ones, are being spent on items other than tax base development. I already wrote to the VVP reception office about this guy, but the response was terse. In short: everything is going according to plan.
              Why should you be embarrassed by the cash flows that come to Moscow in the form of taxes from the regions?

              Accept this as an axiom. They're going to Moscow, not the Moscow budget. They're going to the federal budget, which is under the jurisdiction of a department based in Moscow.

              ЬТЯЛМ (read it backwards). Take the capital for yourself. Let us Muscovites live in peace. Without flashing lights, without the crappy abyss of paid parking in residential areas, without the high prices for housing and utilities in Moscow. Take the capital for yourself, migrant workers included.

              London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
              1. 0
                25 November 2025 14: 59
                Quote: PROXOR
                Take the capital for yourself. Let us Muscovites live in peace.

                Revolutions only happen in capital cities... Let's be honest - if your capital is taken away, your life will immediately become sadder and poorer, since the focus on providing a more satisfying life will simply shift to the new capital... If it weren't for this rule, cultivated since the USSR, Moscow as it is now simply wouldn't exist and life would be no better than, for example, Yekaterinburg hi
                1. 0
                  25 November 2025 15: 42
                  I wouldn't say life in St. Petersburg is particularly bad. It's just as good and interesting there as Moscow.

                  London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                  1. 0
                    25 November 2025 15: 47
                    Quote: PROXOR
                    It's just as good and interesting there as in Moscow.

                    In terms of living standards, it's at least a third worse, and you could say it's a "second capital" plus one person's hometown... and, as we know, hometowns are never easy... but I wasn't writing about specifics, I was specifically talking about the fact that if Moscow weren't the capital, life there would be noticeably sadder...
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2025 09: 57
                      the standard of living is at least a third worse

                      Don't write nonsense. In terms of prices, utilities, and everything else, it's about the same as Moscow. I've been there many times, and a colleague's parents live nearby. We often discussed prices and other services.
                      And as we know, native places are not offended... but I was not writing about particulars, but about the specific fact that if Moscow were not the capital, life there would be noticeably sadder...

                      Oh well. There are a lot of Muscovites in power. They won't offend anyone.

                      What are you all thinking about us? Are you taking the capital or are you just going to waste your time?

                      London (Carthage) must be destroyed. PROXOR
                      1. 0
                        26 November 2025 10: 21
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        In terms of prices, housing and communal services and everything else, it’s about the same as Moscow.

                        And about salary, of course? Or do you think that the standard of living doesn't depend on salary, but salary is on average a third less...
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        They won't offend you)))

                        I've already written about the reason why they won't offend you in the first place... it's been this way since Soviet times - or will you argue?)))
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        Are you taking the capital or will you just chat?

                        Let's see - when and where should I pick it up from you? Where will you hand it over? laughing
            3. -2
              25 November 2025 21: 01
              Moscow pays the bulk of its taxes, so how are the impoverished regions supposed to pay? Your mantra about "the regions are being fed" reminds me of the songs of our former Soviet Union—we fed the entire Soviet Union. But after the collapse, it turned out everyone was just a bunch of useless parasites. It's the same with the regions.
              1. +1
                26 November 2025 10: 24
                Quote: Ivan F
                Moscow pays the bulk of its taxes, so how are the impoverished regions supposed to pay? Your mantra about "feeding the regions" reminds me of the songs of our former Soviet Union—we fed the entire Soviet Union. But after the collapse, it turned out everyone was a complete parasite, incapable of anything.

                So, tell us about Moscow's main sources of income? Diamonds, oil, manufacturing? You know that legally, it's just wealthy firms registered here... or am I wrong?
      2. +1
        25 November 2025 11: 31
        This is not only in Moscow; I have also seen this trend in the regional center.
      3. man
        +3
        25 November 2025 12: 13
        In Moscow, kiosks and markets are being legally eliminated, and small shops and cafes are closing.
        And the rest, Mishustin and his protégés, are finishing them off by increasing the tax burden... sad
    3. +2
      25 November 2025 09: 13
      Quote: Puncher
      Brad.

      You're very categorical. Although you're not exactly precise. You have something to object to on every point. But I'm offended by this misconception of yours:

      Quote: Puncher
      Imperialism is dying

      Traditional 19th-century-style empires have disappeared. But on the other hand, imperial ambitions have transformed. Empires have evolved. They haven't died, they've changed form. There's no need to directly colonize countries anymore. There's the dollar monopoly. Tools of influence like Hollywood have emerged. Technological superiority. Dominance in international organizations. Military and political alliances.

      The United States has no colonies, but it has 800 military bases around the world.
      And what about Turkey, represented by Erdogan, his "neo-Ottomanism"? Turkey's policies are the policies of empire. It is spreading its Muslim influence across the former territories of the Ottoman Empire. China is building its empire, which it calls "One Belt, One Road." Everyone is now using soft power and hybrid warfare. That's why imperialism isn't dying today. It has adapted to the realities of the modern global world. The struggle between the great powers hasn't gone away.
      1. -1
        25 November 2025 09: 49
        Quote: Stas157
        That's why imperialism isn't dying today. It has adapted to the realities of the modern global world. The struggle between the great powers hasn't gone away.

        I don't understand why you think imperialism will last forever. Everyone knows that socio-economic systems change. After all, there's no slave system, no feudal system (on a global scale, of course), and capitalism in its highest form will also cease to exist. Technological progress advances history, forcing changes in socio-economic relations. Lenin believed that the next stage would be communism, but he didn't understand that there were no prerequisites for it, no technological base. But even today, capitalism is being replaced not by communism, but by cyberism. Money is fading into the background, and information, AI, and even the new money—which isn't exactly money but digital currency that doesn't obey the old laws at all—are taking center stage. All production relations are changing, humans are being replaced by robots, and decisions will be made by AI, which doesn't need to graduate from Yale... In this new world, there's no place for the capitalist. What's needed for leadership in such a situation? Lots of electricity and enormous computing power. Only China and the US can grasp this, but China still has the advantage because the US is led by an old capitalist who wants “everything to be like before,” and this is no longer possible.
        1. +2
          25 November 2025 11: 40
          Quote: Puncher
          I don't understand why you think imperialism should last forever. Everyone knows that socio-economic systems change.

          Nothing lasts forever. But capitalism hasn't changed yet. And imperialism, according to Lenin, is the highest stage of capitalism's development. That's where we find ourselves now. Only the methods of plunder have changed. If previously (in the classical Victorian empires) colonialism was used (direct military seizure and control of territory), today neocolonialism is used (economic and political pressure, debt bondage, etc.). Today, imperialism is a form of relations between states, where strong powers subjugate weaker ones. We see in modern examples (the USA, China, Turkey) that imperial policy and the logic of domination can go beyond the purely Leninist definition of imperialism. This is normal and contradictory. Imperial ambitions and imperial behavior among states have not disappeared.
          1. -2
            25 November 2025 11: 48
            Quote: Stas157
            We see in modern examples (the United States, China, Turkey) that imperial policies and the logic of domination can go beyond the purely Leninist definition of imperialism. This is normal and contradictory. Imperial ambitions and imperial behavior among states have not disappeared.

            We are now at a turning point after which global changes will begin. The fact that the US and Turkey are oblivious to this means nothing. In the digital world, there are no borders, so confrontation between the two sides is impossible. There will be only one side, and most likely it will be China.
            1. +1
              25 November 2025 11: 50
              Quote: Puncher
              We are now at the threshold after which global changes will begin.

              You're right. We live in a time of change.
              1. 0
                25 November 2025 12: 06
                Quote: Stas157
                We live in an era of change.

                But perhaps the result of these changes will be such that we will remember capitalism with warm words...
        2. -1
          25 November 2025 13: 12
          Quote: Puncher
          I don't understand why you think imperialism should live forever.

          It's practically making my eyes bleed just reading all this. Where did he talk about the eternity of imperialism? Stop demagoguery. You've already lost this argument.
          1. -2
            25 November 2025 17: 22
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            It's practically making my eyes bleed just reading all this. Where did he talk about the eternity of imperialism? Stop demagoguery. You've already lost this argument.

            The hysterical women have arrived
        3. 0
          25 November 2025 20: 01
          Quote: Puncher
          Money fades into the background, information comes first

          Really? Give me an example of where you or others bought something for information...
          Quote: Puncher
          Even new money is not really money, but a digital currency that does not obey the old laws at all.
          That's right, this isn't money. It's some kind of cunning scheme to swindle you out of your money and even to weaken the states where idiots are engaged in fucking mining.
          1. 0
            25 November 2025 20: 05
            Quote: VasAndr
            Give an example where you or others buy something for information...

            Information about your preferences, for example. You know that the internet collects and analyzes your searches and online purchases, right? This isn't just for idle curiosity.
            Quote: VasAndr
            This is some kind of cunning scheme.

            When it started, many thought so and predicted the collapse of crypto.
            1. 0
              25 November 2025 20: 25
              Quote: Puncher
              This is not just for idle curiosity.

              You're confusing spending money (paying) with earning money. The example you gave is for earning money.
              Quote: Puncher
              predicted the collapse of the crypt.
              Everything is still ahead. It's still too early for an apocalypse. For now, crypto is justified by increased sales of video cards and whatever else is needed for mining. + cutting off these money-grubbers from the economy. + wasting electricity for the state. And the rising price of crypto speaks volumes about a Ponzi scheme, nothing more.
              1. 0
                26 November 2025 04: 51
                Quote: VasAndr
                The example you gave exists for making money.

                This is true today, but in the near future, the importance of information will only increase, as the ability to process it will increase exponentially. Consider the social credit system in China; it's built specifically on information. However, this system is currently weak, as many people are involved in processing it. With the advent of AI, everything will change dramatically.
                Quote: VasAndr
                The rise in the price of cryptocurrency indicates a pyramid scheme and nothing else.

                Pyramids don't last that long.
    4. +4
      25 November 2025 09: 39
      Quote: Puncher
      Nonsense, the basis of the economy of any developed country is small and medium-sized businesses; most people work in small companies.

      This is a return to the Middle Ages and the origins of capitalism. A country that thrives on small businesses cannot develop and exist in the modern world (like African countries and border states).
      The Union prospered, boasting a powerful industry, large enterprises, and only about 10% collective farm-cooperative property, which generated almost no profit and relied heavily on state subsidies (practically all collective farms, unlike state farms, were particularly evident in the fishing collective farms, whose workers paid a mere 1% tax to the state, even though they earned twice as much for the fish they caught as state-owned enterprises, while wages in the RKS were three times, yes, three times, higher). The RKS received subsidies, while the state farmer supported himself.
      1. +1
        25 November 2025 09: 53
        Quote: carpenter
        This is a return to the Middle Ages and the origins of capitalism. A country that thrives on small businesses cannot develop and survive in the modern world.

        Many large companies started out as small or medium-sized businesses, and they are like raw materials for the economy.
        1. +3
          25 November 2025 10: 01
          Quote: Puncher
          Many large companies started out as small or medium-sized businesses, and they are like raw materials for the economy.

          Is there even one such company in Russia?
          1. +1
            25 November 2025 10: 34
            Quote: carpenter
            Is there even one such company in Russia?

            Yes, there probably is. From memory, CFT in Novosibirsk started out as banking software developers, created their own payment system, and is still in business. As far as I know, they're still based in Novosibirsk. 2GIS is also there; it's now a large, well-known company, but used to be a small regional one.
        2. +2
          25 November 2025 13: 16
          Quote: Puncher
          Many large companies started out as small or medium-sized businesses, and they are like raw materials for the economy.

          What does that have to do with anything? Big business is an opportunity for massive investments in production and research and development. Based on a business consisting of a kiosk and a couple of people, you're going to develop and manufacture a lithograph? What the hell. It's practically bloody hell just reading this nonsense.
      2. +2
        25 November 2025 11: 03
        Still, collective farm-cooperative ownership wasn't 10%, but much higher, especially in agriculture and retail trade. You obviously cited the share of industrial cooperatives during their heyday; it did indeed account for around 10% of industrial production.
        1. 0
          25 November 2025 11: 17
          Quote: Sergej1972
          You obviously cited the share of industrial cooperation during its heyday.

          That's roughly how it was, or more accurately, until the "Gorbachev era," when the notorious cooperatives began to be created. Although under Stalin, collective farms accounted for almost 90% of the total, and state farms for about 10%.
      3. 0
        25 November 2025 20: 10
        Quote: carpenter
        The RKS received subsidies, while the state scholar provided for himself.
        Perhaps this system was designed for small nations, a form of support. If any group could start working under this system, it looks like a corrupt scheme.
        1. 0
          25 November 2025 20: 20
          Quote: VasAndr
          Perhaps this scheme was intended for small nations. A kind of support.

          Well, if you consider Leningrad, Murmansk, and the Far East to be small nations, then yes. But the Union had the same laws and rules for all nations within the Union. There was support in the distribution of food and manufactured goods, and fertilizer was cheaper in the Baltics, where the soil was almost unproductive.
          1. -1
            25 November 2025 20: 38
            Quote: carpenter
            Well, if we consider Leningrad, Murmansk and the Far East to be small nations, then yes.
            In this case, I don’t see any benefit for the state in these RKS.
    5. +3
      25 November 2025 10: 09
      The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

      Quote: Puncher
      The ideas of communism are alive and well? Where?

      On Rublevka...

      Marx's teachings are a teaching about the essence of capitalism. Diligent students of Marxism built capitalism. Who said communism should be for everyone?

      Quote: Puncher
      Imperialism is dying, just as feudalism died in its time, a new era is coming,

      The concept of building a world based on interest and racial intolerance is dying.
      1. +1
        25 November 2025 15: 04
        Quote: Boris55
        The concept of building a world based on interest and racial intolerance is dying.

        Well, yes... the Friendship of Nations, the International, and universal prosperity are just around the corner... It's clear why they talked about this in the USSR, but why now, in a strictly capitalist world? laughing
    6. +2
      25 November 2025 23: 33
      Quote: Puncher
      And what's the point of this opus about Lenin's delirium? That the ideas of communism are alive and well? Where?

      You've been given quite a few negatives. Although, your argument is certainly interesting.
      Quote: Puncher
      The author is stuck in 1925, even though it's 2025.

      "Everything flows. Everything changes." And Marx, Engels, and Lenin may well have done the same. Which, of course, doesn't diminish their fundamentality, in their time. hi
      1. +1
        26 November 2025 05: 05
        Quote: Adrey
        that, of course, does not diminish their fundamental nature, at the time

        They created a theory that they accepted as dogma. The Communist Manifesto enshrines precisely this, despite the fact that it itself is based on far-fetched facts.
    7. 0
      1 December 2025 21: 49
      You read the author's introduction. About the foundation of Lenin's work. But you cite isolated examples, not always correctly, and draw conclusions from them. Moreover, in an aggressive manner. This alone undermines your conclusions.
  3. -1
    25 November 2025 04: 54
    Lenin identified the problems of capitalism, but no solutions were found. Having overthrown the hated bourgeoisie, they were left with a partycracy with elements of state monopoly capitalism, devoid of competition and market regulatory mechanisms. Reforms to this system were already overdue in the 60s, but were saved by the oil crisis and rising oil prices. Gorbachev became captain of an already sinking ship.
    Unfortunately, I personally don’t see any alternatives to a market economy with civilized laws yet.
    1. +14
      25 November 2025 06: 02
      Quote: Glock-17
      Having overthrown the hated bourgeoisie, they received a partycracy

      What did you want? A democracy for the illiterate masses, who wanted and still want everything, right now? More than half of Russia's population was simply illiterate and hungry. And the "partycracy" spared no effort or expense not only to improve living standards, but also to educate the population. And not just to read and write, but also to educate people in culture, history, and science, so that people could vote with their heads, not their stomachs. And the fact that Western capitalism was more successful economically is all relative... At the racetrack, the horse that's being whipped is the one ahead, not coaxed to run faster... They tried to turn idiots and thugs into people, and now they're trying to turn people into idiots and thugs.
      1. 0
        25 November 2025 06: 24
        Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Kahn came from poor families and were naturalized in the business world. They also spared no effort or expense. They created industrial empires that enabled a colossal leap in industrialization in the United States, making it a leading country. They also made a huge contribution to the development of philanthropy. Ford and Kahn also helped industrialize the USSR, as their specialists either emigrated or were repressed. How are they any worse, if you remove the prejudices?
        1. +1
          25 November 2025 09: 45
          Quote: Glock-17
          Ford and Kahn also helped to industrialize the USSR.

          In 1993, the Carnegie Endowment opened an office in Moscow and served as an advisor to President Yeltsin during the privatization of the former Soviet Union's economy. In doing so, the Carnegie Endowment acted as a Trojan horse for the CIA. In April 2022, the Carnegie Endowment closed its Moscow center at the direction of the Russian government. In April 2023, the Russian Ministry of Justice added the Center to its list of "foreign agents," and in July 2024, it declared the organization "undesirable."
          1. 0
            25 November 2025 09: 53
            This is a bit different. I compared industrialization in the US, carried out by talented people in a market economy, with industrialization carried out by the Party in the USSR. The difference is enormous.
            1. +1
              25 November 2025 10: 05
              Quote: Glock-17
              I compared industrialization in the USA carried out by gifted people in a market economy with industrialization carried out by the party in the USSR.

              Perhaps you were referring to S. N. Prokopovich's book "The National Economy of the USSR" (1952), written with funds from the Carnegie Endowment during the height of the Cold War. In the work, the author, being anti-Soviet, placed the blame for the country's economic collapse entirely on the Bolsheviks.
      2. -3
        25 November 2025 07: 01
        Quote: Konnick
        In Russia, more than half of the people were simply illiterate and hungry.

        Singapore was a village filled with illiterate beggars. Capitalism made them rich and educated, and the country highly developed. Taiwan was a poverty-stricken island filled with refugees, equally illiterate former peasants. Today, Taiwan is a wealthy nation with advanced technology to the envy of the world, all thanks to capitalism. Its northern neighbor, while raving about Marxist ideas, was also a pauper, where famine claimed millions, but by turning to capitalism, it has become a global hegemon, also possessing cutting-edge science and technology.
        1. +5
          25 November 2025 07: 16
          Quote: Puncher
          Capitalism made them rich and educated, and the country highly developed.

          Do you believe the meaning of life is wealth? Are you sure Taiwanese are educated? Are they all rich? Same with Singaporeans... work for wealth? Is that necessary? We didn't become rich because the entire Soviet economy was devoted to defense and supporting developing countries in the hopes of making them loyal allies.
          1. -4
            25 November 2025 07: 45
            Quote: Konnick
            Are you sure that Taiwanese are educated?

            Do you think people working in the semiconductor industry can be uneducated?
            Quote: Konnick
            Singaporeans too...work for wealth?

            Most people get an education not for the sake of diplomas, but to ensure their well-being.
            Quote: Konnick
            We didn't become rich because

            The USSR was a rich state; it allowed itself many things that were not available to everyone.
            1. +11
              25 November 2025 08: 06
              Quote: Puncher
              Do you think people working in the semiconductor industry can be uneducated?

              They can. I showed a young coworker a portrait of Mayakovsky at work, and he didn't recognize him. Education isn't just knowledge; it's also broadening one's horizons, it's culture.
              1. -1
                25 November 2025 08: 36
                Quote: Konnick
                At work I showed a young colleague a portrait of Mayakovsky, but he didn’t recognize him.

                Education is precisely knowledge, and the example you gave is frankly stupid. Just because someone isn't interested in a mediocre poet from the early 20th century doesn't mean they're stupid. Judging someone's level of education based on pictures is self-deception. You might not be able to tell Freud from Bernard Shaw in a photo, and what's so scary about that?
                1. +3
                  25 November 2025 08: 42
                  Quote: Puncher
                  You might not be able to tell Freud from Bernard Shaw in a photo, and what's so scary about that?


                  For you, and for those who make wealth an end in itself, nothing is scary... the principle of wealth is that you have more money than others.
                  1. 0
                    25 November 2025 08: 44
                    Quote: Konnick
                    For you, and for those who make wealth an end in itself, nothing is scary... the principle of wealth is that you have more money than others.

                    You've quickly veered off topic. Let me repeat the question: what do education level and portrait recognition have in common?
                    1. +2
                      25 November 2025 08: 57
                      Quote: Puncher
                      Let me repeat the question: what do educational level and portrait recognition have in common?

                      I'll repeat my answer. For those who believe education is for well-being, it has nothing in common.
                      Man evolved from an animal only thanks to knowledge, namely the need to learn new things and, most importantly, to share this knowledge with others.
                      I got an education so that my work would be interesting and useful, and I didn't worry about how much I'd earn. You and I have different worldviews and, of course, different social circles. My circle of friends includes not only techies, doctors, and blue-collar workers, but also creative individuals.
                      1. -1
                        25 November 2025 09: 02
                        Quote: Konnick
                        I'll repeat my answer. For those who believe education is for well-being, it has nothing in common.

                        And what does prosperity have to do with it? An educated, altruistic person isn't obligated to be interested in poets, of whom there were "legion." Their altruism is tied to their worldview, not to the standard list of cultural figures required reading by the education system.
                      2. 0
                        25 November 2025 21: 22
                        "An educated, altruistic person isn't obligated to be interested in poets, of whom there were 'legion'." No, they aren't, but they will be, given their advanced level of development. And if their development is at the appropriate level, then they don't even need to be interested in poets. They'll be replaced, for example, by Russian chanson (blatnyak). It's no wonder that the awards ceremony for the "Chanson of the Year" winners is held at the country's main concert venue—the State Kremlin Palace.

                        It's immediately obvious that poets "up there" aren't held in high esteem, but the money is plentiful. And the result of the "altruism" of these "educated" but uninterested poets is all around us, and very clearly visible.
                      3. 0
                        30 November 2025 17: 14
                        Well said. It's very clear, even in this squabble.
                        ...Lenin is annoying. Of course! The leader of the world proletariat -- the workers -- didn't irritate the delivery customer while he waited for the robot to finally put that pizza in his mouth (his hands were busy, his gadget in hand).
                      4. 0
                        30 November 2025 17: 19
                        I just wonder where they are going to get the energy for their new marvelous digital post-imperialism?
                        "Robots work, people rest"? Or will they consider not everyone, and not us from the USSR, "people"?
                      5. 0
                        30 November 2025 17: 07
                        Oh, you ignorant man, you don't know who Mayakovsky is, and yet you've written so much trash here. You don't need to open your mouth about poetry... Keep writing about "capitalism." A concept perfectly suited to your mediocrity. You were funny with the portrait; it's been a while since we've laughed.
                      6. 0
                        30 November 2025 17: 36
                        "An altruist is not obliged to be interested in poets of whom there were 'legion'."
                        Quote: fata-morgana
                        Oh, you ignorant man, you don't know who Mayakovsky is, and yet you've written so much trash here. You don't need to open your mouth about poetry... Keep writing about "capitalism." A concept perfectly suited to your mediocrity. You were funny with the portrait; it's been a while since we've laughed.

                        This is a reply to the person who wrote:
                        "An altruist is not obliged to be interested in poets of whom there were "legion".
                      7. +2
                        25 November 2025 11: 50
                        Quote: Konnick
                        and I didn’t think about how much I would receive.

                        bast shoes or boots - does it make any difference to you?
                      8. 0
                        25 November 2025 21: 04
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        bast shoes or boots - does it make any difference to you?

                        A stupid question. Industry is developed so we don't have to wear bast shoes. But it's destroyed so we can turn workers into beggars who would be happy with bast shoes. Someone who has good, but ordinary, shoes won't immediately want crocodile leather boots. If only because that's closer to perversion than to a vital necessity.
                      9. 0
                        26 November 2025 09: 21
                        Quote: VasAndr
                        So that they don't have to wear bast shoes, they develop industry.

                        so as not to wear bast shoes make money, and don't lie about the unimportance of salary
                      10. -1
                        25 November 2025 21: 26
                        And you apparently won't even wear shoes that cost less than 200 rubles. All you have that's cheaper are bast shoes. laughing
                    2. 0
                      25 November 2025 21: 10
                      "What do education level and portrait recognition have in common?" is a straightforward question. The ability to "recognize portraits" is precisely what reveals your level of education.
                2. 0
                  25 November 2025 13: 44
                  Education is precisely knowledge, and the example you gave is frankly stupid.

                  There is one fundamental difference.

                  Education relies on "broad knowledge," not just in technology and the natural sciences, but also in art, culture, history, and the humanities—at least in their approaches. "Pattern recognition"—not just of portraits—is an integral part. The goal is personal development. And certain personalities can provide a significant impetus for this development.

                  Knowledge, as you understand it, is by its very nature limited to the fulfillment of a task set by others. The result is an intellectual idiot.
                  (Taleb in "The Black Swan": he's an intellectual idiot, but still an idiot)

                  Perhaps you'll be content with this, or perhaps you'll even acquire a modest measure of prosperity. Then you should be content to be a cog in the machine and not speculate about how the machine itself works.

                  Sorry, this is Russian from the translator.
                  1. 0
                    25 November 2025 18: 05
                    Quote: Festus
                    not only in technology and natural sciences, but also in art, culture, history and the humanities

                    Do you think it's necessary to know everyone's face? I don't like Gumilyov's poetry, I've seen his portrait a couple of times, but if you showed me who he was on the street, I wouldn't even know who he was. Am I a lost cause? Why do you think my love for the poet Leonid Filatov is more limited than my love for Gumilyov? Don't you think your approach is too formal? Like there's a standard list of cultural figures you need to know by name, date of birth, date of death?
                    Do you realize, for example, that in physics, so much information has accumulated over so many years that studying it takes an enormous number of years. While at the beginning of the 20th century, it was possible to make a discovery at age 30 or 40, today not everyone can do so even at 50. And there's simply no time to distract yourself with the classics, from Aesop to Shaw.
                  2. +1
                    30 November 2025 17: 27
                    Friend, thank you! It's even nice that "Russian from a translator": we are not alone.
                    1. +1
                      30 November 2025 18: 32
                      Festus,
                      Thank you, friend, it's even nice that your Russian is from a translator!
              2. +6
                25 November 2025 09: 51
                Quote: Konnick
                At work I showed a young colleague a portrait of Mayakovsky, but he didn’t recognize him.

                If only Mayakovsky had spoken, many young people have heard of Lenin, but they can't say who he was, much less Stalin. And only a few can explain the difference between socialism and capitalism.
          2. +2
            26 November 2025 00: 42
            Quote: Konnick
            We did not become rich because the entire economy of the USSR worked for defense and to support developing countries with the hope of making them loyal allies.

            And where are these numerous allies now?
        2. mz
          +3
          25 November 2025 12: 36
          Quote: Puncher

          Singapore was a village filled with illiterate beggars. Capitalism made them rich and educated, and the country highly developed. Taiwan was a poverty-stricken island filled with refugees, equally illiterate former peasants. Today, Taiwan is a wealthy country with advanced technology to the envy of the world, all thanks to capitalism.

          Nigeria, Burma, Cambodia, Kenya, Burkina Faso, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, and dozens of other countries remain "villages filled with illiterate beggars." Although they, too, are capitalist. And only a very small percentage of residents in Singapore and Taiwan can be considered rich. Life in Singapore is very expensive. Singapore became rich simply because of its position as a convenient logistics hub, while Taiwan became rich because of its "anti-China." And in both cases, only thanks to massive foreign financial injections. Taiwan didn't particularly develop any technology; it acquired it from outside for profitable production, thanks to its cheap labor.
          1. 0
            25 November 2025 12: 55
            Quote: mz
            dozens of other countries remained "villages filled with illiterate beggars"

            Capitalism has given the opportunity; if the elites and the people don’t want it, then who is to blame?
            Quote: mz
            thanks to huge external financial injections

            Exactly, this is capitalist internationalism
            1. mz
              +1
              25 November 2025 13: 09
              Quote: Puncher

              Capitalism has given the opportunity; if the elites and the people don’t want it, then who is to blame?
              Quote: mz
              thanks to huge external financial injections

              Exactly, this is capitalist internationalism

              Perhaps I wasn't clear enough: capitalism (or more precisely, transnational corporations) doesn't offer other countries development opportunities, but rather uses those national resources that it needs/finds profitable. If significant profits are possible through investment, then they will be invested, and perhaps (but not necessarily) some development will occur. If a country doesn't have resources that will generate significant profits through investment, but only resources that can be simply exploited (such as raw materials), then capitalism, on the contrary, will squeeze everything out of such a country, and no development will occur. And if there are no resources at all, then there will be no development either. But capitalism will...
        3. 0
          25 November 2025 20: 49
          Quote: Puncher
          Its northern neighbor, while still raving about the ideas of Marxism, was also a pauper where hunger claimed millions, but having turned to the path of capitalism, it turned into a world hegemon, also possessing advanced science and technology.
          Are we discussing some fantasy alternative history of Russia? I don't think so. So what's the point of this fictitious assertion?
          1. +1
            26 November 2025 04: 52
            Quote: VasAndr
            Are we discussing some kind of fantasy alternative history of Russia?

            Actually, I meant China.
    2. +1
      25 November 2025 08: 31
      Gorbachev became the captain of an already sinking ship.

      Nonsense.
      Here's the rationale:
      [https://topwar.ru/234205-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat-chast-1.html]

      [https://topwar.ru/234344-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat-chast-2.html]

      [https://topwar.ru/234755-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat.html]

      [https://topwar.ru/237615-o-diktature-proletariata-trudjaschihsja-io-dvizhuschej-sile-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-1985-1993-gg.html]
      1. +2
        25 November 2025 09: 00
        So many people, so many opinions. I don't think he was an ideological enemy of the USSR or an agent of the West. If he had had the opportunity to remain president of the USSR, he would have stayed.
        The country truly needed economic reform. I remember the mid-80s in my provincial town well. The only things readily available at the grocery store were liver, capelin, blood sausage, tomato paste, and Red River cigarettes. For butter, meat, and cheese, you'd line up before the store even opened and stand there for hours. Then coupons appeared. Gorbachev's speeches were sing-song, but life continued to go downhill.
        1. +1
          25 November 2025 09: 04
          I don’t think that he was an ideological enemy of the USSR or an agent of the West.

          And I think. There is no other way to explain his behavior.

          The country truly needed economic reform. I remember the mid-80s in my provincial town well. The only things readily available at the grocery store were liver, capelin, blood sausage, tomato paste, and Red River cigarettes. For butter, meat, and cheese, you'd line up before the store even opened and stand there for hours. Then coupons appeared. Gorbachev's speeches were sing-song, but life continued to go downhill.

          It looks like you didn't read my linked articles.
          Your stores of the 80s are precisely the result of Gorbachev’s perestroika activities.
          This was precisely one of its results.
        2. 0
          25 November 2025 09: 13
          Ha, so Gorbachev intended to remain the head of state. He wanted to destroy the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and socialism, and rule a pro-Western capitalist state led by the USSR's enemies. But the enemies of the USSR, "liberated" by him, overthrew him in "gratitude" and divided the USSR among themselves. And Gorbachev was handed over to those he had betrayed and slandered, as well as their supporters, as if to say, "He's not ours, he's your communist."
          1. +2
            25 November 2025 20: 27
            Quote: tatra
            he only wanted to destroy the power of the CPSU and socialism
            He didn't want to: he became the head of the country, and that suited him. But he screwed up so spectacularly that he could only say, "That's how it was planned." He's got the same story as Nicholas II, who destroyed the monarchy, even though he didn't want to. Pathetic mediocrity in difficult times.
        3. -2
          25 November 2025 12: 47
          Quote: Glock-17
          The only things readily available at the grocery store were liver, capelin, blood sausage, tomato paste, and Red River cigarettes. For butter, meat, and cheese, I lined up before the store even opened and spent hours waiting.

          Who stopped you from going to the nearby agricultural cooperative store or the market? Or was it easier to stand for hours buying butter than to earn extra money and buy veal and country butter at the market or dry-cured sausage at the consumer union store?
          1. +1
            25 November 2025 17: 25
            These were often shops run by speculators, not manufacturers. Many items in the "koptorgas" were exorbitantly priced.
            1. 0
              25 November 2025 17: 26
              I'm talking about Soviet times, these stores had fixed prices.
              1. +1
                26 November 2025 11: 18
                For example, the state price for cervelat sausage was 3.5 rubles per kilogram. At the smoke shop, it cost 9 rubles at the "fixed" price. Our town had its own meat-packing plant where it was produced, but we never saw it in state-owned stores. My father bought it in Moscow when he went there on business. What a great economic model.
    3. +5
      25 November 2025 10: 28
      Quote: Glock-17
      Gorbachev has already become a captain sinking ship.

      Is the USSR a sinking ship? Where did it sink? You're now reciting other people's cliches and common misconceptions about the late USSR.

      The USSR was, for a second, the world's second-largest economy! Yes, there was a serious crisis. But it wasn't the economy that destroyed the USSR. That's not how it works. It doesn't work anywhere. Only in the minds of liberals. We're constantly in crisis right now, and our economy is far from second-largest. But we're not drowning! The US and Europe are in serious crises. But they're not thinking about collapsing and sinking. Impoverished Ukraine should have drowned long ago, judging by your logic. But it's in its fourth year of fighting desperately.

      My point is that it wasn't the economic crisis that destroyed the USSR, but a political coup. The communist traitors. They, too, just like the liberals, love to spread myths about how the USSR was hooked on oil and collapsed economically! But the scariest thing is that many people believe it.
      1. +1
        25 November 2025 17: 20
        "At the fateful moment, a knife in the back." The rhetoric is all too familiar. Instead of looking for objective reasons for the USSR's failures, they're looking for scapegoats, like the Jews in Nazi Germany. Only now, they're replaced by "liberals." Although I'm not condoning them either.
        1. +2
          26 November 2025 10: 56
          Quote: Glock-17
          Instead of searching objective reasons failures of the USSR

          I'll tell you the objective reason for the collapse of the USSR in a nutshell: a crisis of power.

          But, excuse me, the world's second largest economy can't just collapse for purely economic reasons.
          1. 0
            26 November 2025 11: 05
            One always determines the other. Of course, you can't blame everything on economic factors, but a hungry crowd is always easier to manipulate and bring to the Maidan. And ideas alone won't feed you.
    4. 0
      1 December 2025 21: 54
      Which civilization are you referring to? There are several, some count seven. The Koran prohibits interest on loans. Or is it just the Western civilization, which colonized half the world. And then the communists came along and began to destroy the colonial system. Have you asked the North American Indians, on their "comfortable reservations"?
  4. +4
    25 November 2025 05: 15
    Quote: Glock-17
    Gorbachev became the captain of an already sinking ship.
    And yet, it was an unprofessional captain who happened to be on the captain's bridge.
    1. +4
      25 November 2025 05: 40
      Gorbachev was a product of a system with mediocre abilities when the times demanded a leader with extraordinary abilities. Frankly, there was no sound economic school back then capable of offering a real solution to the economic crisis. Chubais and Gaidar were steeped in "Das Kapital" and had nothing useful to offer other than integrating into the global economy and its natural resources.
    2. -5
      25 November 2025 06: 03
      Quote: Schneeberg
      accidentally found himself on the captain's bridge

      Gorbachev is a "Stalinist" communist; he joined the party in 1952, which was already a party that Stalin had purged several times of "Trotskyists-Zinovievites" and "Bukharinites" all together.
      1. +7
        25 November 2025 07: 45
        Quote: Puncher
        Gorbachev is a "Stalinist" communist; he joined the party in 1952.
        Gorbachev, unlike Khrushchev and Brezhnev, who were personally promoted to high positions by Stalin, was a man of a completely different generation, for whom the party was merely a springboard for building his career. He would have joined any party if it would somehow contribute to his further advancement.
        1. -1
          25 November 2025 07: 55
          Quote: Schneeberg
          Gorbachev, unlike Khrushchev and Brezhnev, who were personally promoted to high positions by Stalin, was a man of a completely different generation, for whom the party was merely a springboard for building his career. He would have joined any party if it would somehow contribute to his further advancement.

          How are you putting Comrade Stalin down? Like he created a party of opportunistic crooks?
          Yakovlev A.N. - joined the CPSU in 1944, Shevardnadze E.A. - joined the CPSU in 1948, all of them are responsible for perestroika and everything that followed, all of them are from the "Stalinist CPSU".
          1. +2
            25 November 2025 11: 12
            Quote: Puncher
            Yakovlev A.N. - joined the CPSU in 1944, Shevardnadze E.A. - joined the CPSU in 1948, all of them are responsible for perestroika and everything that followed, all of them are from the "Stalinist CPSU"
            All these Yakovlevs and Shevardnadzes are the same scum from the garbage can, just like Gorbachev himself. They all held minor positions in the party, or even none at all. But Brezhnev and Khrushchev were Stalin's true appointees. As was almost the entire Brezhnev Politburo.
            1. -3
              25 November 2025 11: 15
              Quote: Schneeberg
              All these Yakovlevs and Shevardnadzes are the same scum from the garbage can as Gorbachev himself. They all held minor positions in the party, or even none at all.

              Well, they are the ones being accused of all the sins, although they have already reached the final analysis.
              Quote: Schneeberg
              But Brezhnev and Khrushchev were Stalin's true appointees. As was almost the entire Brezhnev Politburo.

              Yes, this is the result of Joseph Vissarionovich's selection.
              1. +2
                25 November 2025 11: 17
                Quote: Puncher
                Yes, this is the result of Joseph Vissarionovich's selection.
                I agree only that Comrade Stalin was an excellent personnel selector!
      2. 0
        25 November 2025 10: 25
        Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

        Quote: Puncher
        Gorbachev is a "Stalinist" communist; he joined the party in 1952.

        Absolutely not even once!!!

        In 1952, Stalin renamed the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU), realizing that after the war, most of the Bolsheviks had been wiped out on the battlefield, and that power was gradually shifting to the Trotskyists. After Stalin's death, the purge of Bolsheviks and Stalinist cadres in the workplace began in full force.

        In fact Gorbaty had already joined the Trotskyist party....

        The pre-history of the Bolsheviks' seizure of power from the Trotskyists:

        On January 29-31, 1924, the "Leninist recruitment" into the party was announced (later called the "Leninist draft"). "Workers from the machine tool" were called into the party. Initially, 100 newcomers were expected, but this number later increased. The membership of the RCP(b) roughly doubled in one year—from 386 to 780—and the proportion of workers in it increased from 44 to 60%.

        This recruitment into the party was carried out by vote, by votes of all workers—party and non-party. Together, they decided whether a particular candidate was worthy of joining the RCP(b). As he proudly noted on this matter, Stalin: "Our party has become the elected organ of the working class.".

        By freeing the bureaucracy from the control of the proletarian vanguard, the "Leninist recruitment" dealt a mortal blow to Trotsky's party."
    3. +3
      25 November 2025 09: 54
      Quote: Schneeberg
      And yet, it was an unprofessional captain who happened to be on the captain's bridge.

      Ivan Krylov also wrote -
      "The trouble is, if the cobbler starts the cakes,
      And the boots stitch the pastry,
      And things won't go well.
      "
  5. +2
    25 November 2025 05: 26
    In Russia, I always use Ilyich’s theoretical calculations.
    It clearly reveals the essence and the underbelly of capital in our country.
    Marx's teachings are a little behind the times and require revision due to humanity's technological advances and the depletion of our planet's natural resources... new realities of human relationships are emerging.
    The Iranian government is moving the country's capital due to water shortages...Afghanistan, Mexico, India, Indonesia, and so on are next...a colossal shakeup of humanity awaits...only the blind cannot see it.
    And how to apply the teachings of Marx and Lenin to all this is a big question. what
  6. +12
    25 November 2025 05: 38
    V.I. Lenin's work was truly a landmark for its time. In it, without breaking with Marxism, he made two important steps for its development.
    1) Analyzed it as a global system, in terms of the relationship within the center-periphery system, showing that the creation of a "one-dimensional" capitalism on a global scale is impossible and that the leading capitalist countries are not at all showing the laggards their future, and that revolution is most likely not in the core countries of the capitalist system.
    2) Based on the statistical data he had and the works of European and American economists, he showed the changes that had taken place in the capitalist system since the time of the writing of the works of Marx/Engels.
    As for today, of course, modern capitalism has changed greatly over the past 100 years, and Lenin's theses cannot be applied directly today. It has become completely supranational (globalism), changed under the influence of socialism, under the influence of scientific progress, the structure and relationship of financial and productive capital, the market and the mechanism of labor force functioning, etc. Lenin himself would have written a completely different book today.
    But this, of course, in no way diminishes its value. The simplest conclusion from it for today is the complete impossibility of "integrating" Russia into the system of mature capitalism as part of its core ("developed country"). This was tragically confirmed during the economic reforms of the late 80s and 90s.
    P.S. Unfortunately, the author himself (though a great guy) couldn't match the clarity and depth of the text he's commenting on. There's a lot of emotion, demonization of the "insidious West," some kind of chaos involving religion, geopolitics, and descriptions of how it affects consciousness. It's unclear why this is necessary in an economic text.
    1. -7
      25 November 2025 06: 04
      Quote: Belisarius
      Modern capitalism has changed a lot over the past 100 years, and Lenin's theses cannot be applied directly now.

      Genius! He couldn't foresee anything, but he said it...
      1. +6
        25 November 2025 08: 23
        Genius! He couldn't foresee anything, but he said it...
        For his time, he was a genius because he was able to explain the ongoing transformation of the world in his scientific works. Capital's attempt to maintain its hegemony in the world led it to the next stage after imperialism: fascism!
        1. -7
          25 November 2025 08: 31
          Quote: Gomunkul
          A genius because he was able to explain the ongoing transformation of the world in scientific works

          And yet, he saw the transformation incorrectly... a true genius... He explained everything brilliantly, but he was simply mistaken. Perhaps geniuses can be forgiven?
          Quote: Gomunkul
          The attempt of capital to maintain its hegemony in the world led it to the next stage after imperialism - fascism!

          Oh wow. And where is this fascism?
          1. +2
            25 November 2025 08: 38
            Oh wow. And where is this fascism?

            I don't want to reprint here what's already freely available online. For example:
            https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/fashizm-kak-obratnaya-storona-kapitalizma/viewer
            hi
            1. -3
              25 November 2025 08: 41
              Quote: Gomunkul
              For example:

              A person who positions himself as a philosopher does not see the difference between National Socialism and fascism and is not worth any attention.
          2. 0
            1 December 2025 22: 01
            Dear Sir, you're truly demonstrating it. Having spent money on a genius, nature rests on its descendants. "To stand still, you have to run," as they say in "Alice in Wonderland." But the party bureaucracy stopped. They weren't even moving.
        2. 0
          25 November 2025 10: 00
          Quote: Gomunkul
          For his time, he was a genius because he was able to explain the ongoing transformation of the world in scientific works.

          But now such geniuses are not in sight, and they are needed now.
          1. +1
            25 November 2025 10: 43
            But now such geniuses are not in sight, and they are needed now.
            Such geniuses don't just appear; someone is always behind them. If they're not here now, it's because their time hasn't come yet. hi
      2. +4
        25 November 2025 08: 39
        Genius! He couldn't foresee anything, but he said it...

        He not only foresaw—he laid the foundations for a new SUCCESSFUL state. And the successes of this NEW type of state are simply impressive.
        1. -5
          25 November 2025 08: 42
          Quote: October
          He not only foresaw—he laid the foundations for a new SUCCESSFUL state. And the successes of this NEW type of state are simply impressive.

          Are you talking about Cuba or North Korea?
          1. +1
            25 November 2025 08: 43
            Are you talking about Cuba or North Korea?

            about the USSR
            1. -5
              25 November 2025 08: 45
              Quote: October
              about the USSR

              Where is this state? Are you talking about the USSR that successfully collapsed?
              1. +2
                25 November 2025 08: 48
                Off the top of my head, here are the USSR's achievements:
                - Stalin's industrialization
                - victory in the Great Patriotic War
                - the first man in space
                - the first satellite
                etc.
                Are you talking about the USSR, which successfully collapsed?

                Do you connect this with Lenin and socialism?
                You have big problems with logic.
                1. -2
                  25 November 2025 08: 52
                  Quote: October
                  Off the top of my head, here are the USSR's achievements:

                  A successful state suddenly collapsed? What's so successful about it then?
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2025 09: 00
                    A successful state suddenly collapsed? What's so successful about it then?

                    You've probably never even heard the word dialectic in your life.

                    To begin with, a simple analogy.
                    Perhaps you studied at a university and remember, for example, that when a chemical reaction occurs, the reaction always proceeds in two directions - synthesis and decay, and the molecular system is at a certain point of equilibrium.
                    But this is the most primitive system.

                    The state is a much more complex system; there are many processes going on there simultaneously.
                    There are certain forces and people representing them who, for the sake of THEIR OWN selfish interests, are ready to risk the fate of an entire country, regardless of its success.
                    If you're interested in the details, here's my take on those events:
                    [https://topwar.ru/234205-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat-chast-1.html]

                    [https://topwar.ru/234344-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat-chast-2.html]

                    [https://topwar.ru/234755-tehnologija-polzuchej-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-19851993-gg-i-kak-ej-protivodejstvovat.html]

                    [https://topwar.ru/237615-o-diktature-proletariata-trudjaschihsja-io-dvizhuschej-sile-burzhuaznoj-kontrrevoljucii-1985-1993-gg.html]
                    I won't try to retell it in two sentences.
                    1. -1
                      25 November 2025 09: 11
                      Quote: October
                      To begin with, a simple analogy.

                      Quote: October
                      I won't try to retell it in two sentences.

                      Probably because there are facts that cannot be denied. The USSR as a state proved unviable.
                      1. -5
                        25 November 2025 11: 42
                        Make it out of this
                        I won't try to retell it in two sentences.

                        this is the conclusion
                        Probably because there are facts that cannot be denied. The USSR as a state proved unviable.

                        means that you have problems with logic.
                      2. -2
                        25 November 2025 11: 51
                        Quote: October
                        means you have problems with logic

                        And you cling to the past, idealizing it. The USSR was unviable because its citizens didn't need it.
                      3. -2
                        25 November 2025 11: 53
                        And you cling to the past, idealizing it.

                        Did you deduce this from your problems with logic?

                        The USSR was unviable because its citizens did not need it.

                        Your demagoguery is uninteresting.
                      4. -1
                        25 November 2025 12: 09
                        Quote: October
                        Your demagoguery is uninteresting.

                        What did you do to preserve the USSR?
                      5. 0
                        26 November 2025 08: 13
                        What did you do to preserve the USSR?

                        In 1986 I had a personal situation (the details are not for the forum), after which I completely disconnected from public life until 1991.
                        I never even thought that it would lead to the disappearance of the USSR.
                        It turned out that I didn't do anything, which I now deeply regret. Although what I could have done isn't entirely clear either.
                      6. 0
                        26 November 2025 08: 29
                        Quote: October
                        Although what I could do is also not entirely clear.

                        The viability of a state is determined by the attitude of each of its citizens towards it.
                      7. 0
                        26 November 2025 08: 30
                        The viability of a state is determined by the attitude of each of its citizens towards it.

                        Want to talk about abstract philosophy?
                      8. -1
                        26 November 2025 08: 31
                        Quote: October
                        Want to talk about abstract philosophy?

                        With a good person, of course. But not here and not during work hours.
                      9. 0
                        26 November 2025 08: 32
                        With a good person, of course. But not here and not during work hours.

                        Agree
                      10. +1
                        30 November 2025 18: 34
                        The USSR was unviable because its citizens did not need it.
                        I agree with that. Citizens didn't want to live well, they wanted to live better. Better than their neighbors, better than others. This is the essence of modern ideology. But they've forgotten that better isn't always good. It means everyone else has it worse.
                      11. 0
                        30 November 2025 19: 37
                        [/quote]...better isn't always good. It means everyone else is worse off.[/quote]

                        Spiidii, best answer! The prize is in the studio!
                      12. -1
                        25 November 2025 12: 44
                        There are facts that cannot be denied.

                        A wonderful, beautiful, and intelligent person is struck by a virus and dies. The conclusion is that the human species is unviable.
                        Anyone who ate cucumbers, bread, or drank water died sooner or later. The conclusion is that cucumbers, bread, and water are deadly poisons with a long delayed effect.
                        Did you demonstrate the level of logic clearly enough?
                      13. -3
                        25 November 2025 13: 21
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        A virus strikes and a person dies. The conclusion is that the human species is not viable.

                        The virus is not selective. If the virus kills one system but not another, then the former is no longer viable.
                      14. 0
                        25 November 2025 17: 29
                        The virus is not selective. If the virus kills one system but not another, then the former is no longer viable.

                        Taking an analogy literally in relation to what the analogy is intended to make easier to understand is a diagnosis.
                      15. +1
                        25 November 2025 18: 18
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Taking an analogy literally in relation to what the analogy is intended to make easier to understand is a diagnosis.

                        Nothing literal. Elite decay isn't a disease exclusive to the USSR; everyone suffers from it, but nowhere has it led to the destruction of the state. I'm talking about developed countries. The USSR, the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic didn't collapse as a result of wars. Name even one capitalist state that perished under similar conditions.
                2. 0
                  25 November 2025 10: 26
                  Achievements of the capitalist USA at a glance
                  - the first financial system
                  - victory in the Great Patriotic War
                  - the dominant military force
                  - the first man on the moon
                  etc.
                  Whose system proved more viable?
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2025 11: 51
                    the first financial system

                    Who needs an economy of inflated financial bubbles, except the main bourgeoisie and their servants?

                    victory in WWII

                    Did you think carefully about what you wrote?

                    dominant military force

                    Who are you comparing it to? The USSR or the Russian Federation? Or maybe China?

                    the first man on the moon

                    For a country that has not seen war since the mid-19th century, this is no achievement.
                    But they were not able to become the first in space.

                    Whose system proved more viable?

                    Winning and viability are not the same thing. Not even close.
                    And who will win, we will see.
                    1. +2
                      25 November 2025 19: 35
                      So much has been written, but what actually happens? Capitalism lives on, socialism is a thing of the past.
                      1. 0
                        26 November 2025 08: 18
                        So much has been written, but what actually happens? Capitalism lives on, socialism is a thing of the past.

                        Have you decided to have the last word?
                        We'll see who wins.
                      2. +1
                        26 November 2025 10: 16
                        We'll see who wins.

                        Not in our lifetime, unfortunately.
                      3. 0
                        1 December 2025 22: 30
                        Nuances are always important. Ford was called a commie; he implemented a socialist, even closer to communist, economic system. In Israel, there are kibbutzim-communes. There's Swedish socialism, capitalism, where 70 percent of profits go to taxes. It's all more complex than just isms.
                    2. +3
                      25 November 2025 20: 31
                      Quote: October
                      Did you think carefully about what you wrote?
                      The USSR won the Great Patriotic War, defeated Germany, the USA won the Second World War, and England lost.
                  2. +4
                    25 November 2025 14: 35
                    Oh wow! The US won World War II?
                    1. +4
                      25 November 2025 15: 44
                      Quote: roosei
                      Oh wow! The US won World War II?

                      Yes, the USSR made the greatest contribution to the victory; you could say the USSR won! And the US won... it's just that victory isn't always a win...
                      1. 0
                        25 November 2025 19: 41
                        With all due respect to the United States, it must be acknowledged that they fought the Japanese with their own hands. And they were also covered in blood. This should not be underestimated.
              2. +2
                25 November 2025 08: 51
                The enemies of the USSR have everything according to Freud, and that's why they've thrown out a bunch of cowardly nonsense like "the USSR collapsed on its own, and we had nothing to do with it", "the USSR fell apart on its own, and we had nothing to do with it", and that you yourselves admit that your seizure and dismemberment of the USSR into your evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic States are your crimes against the country and the people.
                1. -1
                  25 November 2025 08: 56
                  Quote: tatra
                  The enemies of the USSR have everything according to Freud, and that's why they've thrown out a bunch of cowardly nonsense like "the USSR collapsed on its own, and we had nothing to do with it", "the USSR fell apart on its own, and we had nothing to do with it", and that you yourselves admit that your seizure and dismemberment of the USSR into your evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic States are your crimes against the country and the people.

                  Let's say the USSR's enemies did their best. But what about the USSR's friends? What did they do?
                  1. -2
                    25 November 2025 08: 58
                    Ha, here is yet another confirmation that the enemies of the USSR themselves admit that they seized the USSR for criminal purposes, therefore they not only slandered the USSR to justify their seizure of the USSR, they made up a bunch of cowardly nonsense, but also shifted the responsibility for their seizure of the USSR onto those from whom they took it.
                    1. -1
                      25 November 2025 09: 08
                      Quote: tatra
                      Ha, here's another confirmation.

                      Answer the question, don’t go off on a tangent, where were the USSR’s friends?
                    2. +2
                      25 November 2025 10: 30
                      Ha, all you can do is criticize, without argument or objective assessment. You've piled on a bunch of nonsense and then shifted responsibility for your words onto those who truly understand the subject and bring the light of enlightenment and thought.
              3. 0
                25 November 2025 08: 56
                Quote: Puncher
                Where is this state? Are you talking about the USSR that successfully collapsed?


                Which USSR exactly collapsed?
                USSR during the era of Lenin or Stalin?
                Maybe at least the "stagnant" USSR of the Brezhnev era?
                No, it was the democratized, perestroika-era USSR, which abandoned its own ideological foundations, betraying the ideals of its founders. A USSR in which virtually nothing Soviet, socialist, or even Union-like remained. A USSR in which rampant anti-Sovietism raged and open calls for the demolition of the Mausoleum were made. Such a USSR was simply bound to collapse; anyone who betrays themselves deserves nothing less. And these trends of destruction then successfully and systematically contributed to the degradation of the newly formed Russian Federation, which became a model of decline and degradation until the early 2000s.
                1. -2
                  25 November 2025 08: 58
                  Quote: Illanatol
                  Which USSR exactly collapsed?

                  It turns out there were several of them... Oh, how convenient...
                  1. -2
                    25 November 2025 09: 08
                    Quote: Puncher
                    It turns out there were several of them... Oh, how convenient...


                    Of course, there were several. The USSR was a dynamic, actively developing state; the country forged ahead along an uncharted path, seeking new things. Unlike the so-called "Western democracies," which experienced and continue to experience stagnation in their political systems.
                    I would compare Western democracy to the last sailing ships, the "tea clippers." The pinnacle of sailing technology, high speed, comfort, and a certain romance. The USSR, on the other hand, was like the first steamships or motor ships. Slower speeds, fumes and soot, less comfort and romance. But sailing ships, having achieved perfection, lost their significance as transport, and the future belonged to steamships and motor ships.
                    It is precisely imperfections that contain the potential for development. Those who have achieved perfection are doomed to decline. For those who have reached the pinnacle, every path is a downward one. And beyond the "highest stage," decline, eclipse, and subsequent radical changes are inevitable.
                    1. 0
                      25 November 2025 10: 35
                      Quote: Illanatol
                      For one who has reached the top, every path is a path down.

                      Doesn't it bother you that 70 years is somehow not enough?
                      1. -1
                        25 November 2025 13: 24
                        No. The "1000-year Third Reich" lasted much less time, but fascism and Nazism, as we see, have not outlived their usefulness and are quite capable of a comeback.

                        As Russians say: "the first pancake is always lumpy" (or komam, that's more correct).
                2. 0
                  Today, 01: 53
                  I was about to grunt to the "community": "Why are you falling for this Hole-Puncher's obvious trolling!" :)), as you so gloriously nailed him by severing the idea along the lines of "RSDLP - RSDLP(b) - VKP(b) - CPSU - CPRF clones." Is he really such a pure scholastic that he doesn't understand? Or is he just pretending? Judging by his response, he's just being sarcastic... But the trouble is, the very definition of "communist in general" has been abolished thanks to their efforts, and it will have to be explained anew...
              4. +2
                25 November 2025 10: 59
                The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

                Quote: Puncher
                Where is this state? Are you talking about the USSR that successfully collapsed?

                The USSR was deliberately destroyed after Stalin's death, from 1953, beginning with Khrushchev and ending with Yeltsin. It took the Trotskyists 40 years to achieve this... Medvedev's attempt to continue the destruction of Russia failed. He took on Russia's destruction so abruptly that the US almost lost its access to space...
                "It's better to lose to a smart guy than to win against a fool."
                1. -1
                  25 November 2025 15: 18
                  Quote: Boris55
                  The USSR was deliberately destroyed after Stalin's death, from 1953, starting with Khrushchev and ending with Yeltsin.

                  he was being destroyed - its the same elite and managers... roughly speaking, if the brain gave the command to drink poison, then the body is of course not entirely to blame, but the point is that it is not to blame - he still died... and the talk about how if only he had a different brain, the body would be excellent, etc., it doesn't matter anymore, a different brain did not have, this is how he grew up... he wasn't implanted, he wasn't replaced - his body grew this way for itself, so everything was natural... although of course, one can speculate about what heights he would have reached without drinking the poison, but what's the point?
          2. +2
            25 November 2025 09: 00
            Quote: Puncher
            Are you talking about Cuba or North Korea?


            At least about them. If you compare Cuba with neighboring Haiti or the Dominican Republic, which the US "democratized" to the fullest extent, Cuba looks quite respectable.
            The DPRK? One of the few truly sovereign countries that is developing quite successfully.
            1. +2
              25 November 2025 10: 35
              North Korea? One of the few truly sovereign countries,

              Just type in the search engine "economic and humanitarian aid to the DPRK"
              Well?
              1. 0
                25 November 2025 13: 30
                And the fact that this “humanitarian aid” looks more like a tribute that Western countries pay to the DPRK regime so that it does not violate discipline too much.
                Isn't it funny that even a "hegemon" is forced to show respect for a state with a population half the size of California? Meanwhile, the same hegemon, despite all its economic might, routinely wipes its feet on today's Germany, while the "true Aryans" merely wipe their hands and endure.
                Freedom isn't free, as we know. Neither is sovereignty. And North Koreans are willing to tolerate this "Asian despotism" in socialist guise, just to avoid becoming a foreign colony again. Especially since the fruits of "democratization" are well known there, as in Syria and Libya.
                1. 0
                  25 November 2025 19: 38
                  Yep. Hungry and proud. Sovereignty is just oozing out.
                  1. +1
                    26 November 2025 08: 24
                    Quote: a.shlidt
                    Hungry and proud. Sovereignty is just oozing out.


                    It's their choice. And there were precedents. There was such a people, or tribe, the Spartans. They also lived in hunger, but with great pride. They are still remembered. But other tribes, who preferred comfortable slavery, sank into obscurity.
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2025 10: 20
                      Well, I'm confused here. A number of questions.
                      - So, we chose not to be proud? Or do you spend all your income on SVO?
                      - And where is this, as you put it, "tribe" now? Are they still proudly throwing disabled people off cliffs?
                      1. 0
                        26 November 2025 13: 11
                        1. Yes, they did. They traded their "birthright" (socialism) for a "lentil soup" (jeans and chewing gum). Most of them. Fortunately for our country, there are those among us who aren't just walking appendages of their stomachs and asses (pardon my French).
                        2. In the same place as the other tribes. "We're all going to die!" - you can't argue with that.
                        But they remain remembered (not only by their descendants) for their actions. Many of their contemporaries, however, are not even remembered.
    2. +3
      25 November 2025 08: 42
      As for modern times, of course, modern capitalism has changed greatly over the past 100 years, and it is impossible to directly apply Lenin’s theses now.

      It has remained the same in its most fundamental aspects - a system of economic oppression built on exploitation, whereby the overwhelming minority appropriates the results of the labor of the overwhelming majority.
      Accordingly, his theses not only can but should be used. Although the tactics for achieving this goal now need to be completely different.
      1. 0
        25 November 2025 08: 48
        True, capitalism is always the enrichment of a minority of the people at the expense of the labor of the majority. But for the enemies of the USSR who seized it, capitalism is a free ride; it's their parasitism off the labor of Soviet communists and their supporters, imported food and manufactured goods, and the work of foreign firms.
        It is precisely because of this that they all say “it’s better now than in the USSR,” and not because they themselves have done anything better for their country and people than it was in the USSR.
      2. +1
        25 November 2025 10: 10
        a system of economic oppression built on exploitation, whereby an overwhelming minority appropriates the results of the labor of the overwhelming majority.

        So who or what is oppressing you? So, formulate your grievances against capitalism in Russian.
        Specifically, to capitalism, not to criminality. At least with an example. Otherwise, you're just wasting your breath with your words.
        1. 0
          25 November 2025 11: 46
          So who or what is oppressing you? So, formulate your grievances against capitalism in Russian.
          Specifically, to capitalism, not to criminality. At least with an example. Otherwise, you're just wasting your breath with your words.

          I have already formulated this above.
          a system of economic oppression built on exploitation

          If you don't get the meaning of this phrase, then I'm afraid you have a problem with education. Then you need to study before you argue.
          Or you're just a troll.

          Tell me, does the term surplus value mean anything to you?
          1. -1
            25 November 2025 19: 22
            Familiar. And yet you still haven't answered who or what is it that oppresses or exploits you personally?
            1. +2
              26 November 2025 08: 16
              First, a classic. First of all, the owner of the business is exploiting me by not paying me enough.
              There is no data specifically for my company, but here are the following figures for other workers:

              You did it, and we'll earn it.

              A recent study by the Clean Clothes Company found that workers' wages in clothing manufacturing are less than 1% of the price of a T-shirt in a store.

              Thus, a Bangladeshi worker receives 18 euro cents, i.e. 0.6% of the sale price, for a T-shirt sold in Europe for 29 euros.

              The majority of the final selling price, almost 60%, goes to retailers in the form of store profits, staff salaries, rent, and sales tax. The next largest contributions are brand profit and material costs, which each account for 12% of the final price, and transportation costs, which account for 8%. Meanwhile, the Bangladeshi factory earns only slightly more than its workers: approximately 4% of the final price goes to the factory profit.

              Source (https://www.statista.com/chart/34514/breakdown-of-the-retail-price-of-at-shirt/)

              This data is from the Telegram channel [https://t.me/ochen_mnogo_prufov], a link to the original source is available.

              Now, let me introduce myself briefly. My undergraduate education is in Industrial Electronics. However, in our specialty, among other things,
              We studied a specialized course called "Industrial Enterprise Management." This means that our specialization potentially trained future plant directors.
              That same "cook who will run the state." As you understand, right now the "cook" has no chance of becoming a director, this or
              children of the owner of the enterprise or "a person close to the emperor."

              Furthermore, as a future plant director, I know that in the USSR, about 30% of a plant's profits went to the state. From this share, the state paid pensions.
              provided free medical care, free education, etc.
              Now, I believe, taxes are much lower, and those that we pay largely (if not mostly) go to support business, of course.
              As a result, we have the following:
              - I'll retire at 65 instead of 60.
              - went to the dentist, spent several months' salary
              - In 2000, I wanted to get a second degree. I was told that they no longer teach evening classes.
              etc.

              What is all this if not exploitation?
              1. 0
                26 November 2025 10: 12
                And as an example you gave... Bangladesh!! BANGLADESH??!!
                I would like to put two things in perspective.
                1 - STATE STRUCTURE
                Taxes, benefits, healthcare, pensions. Do you seriously think the capitalist is to blame for the VAT increase to 22%? He wants to pay more?! Do you seriously think the entrepreneur raised the retirement age so he could employ more old people?!
                2 - Economic system.
                Do you seriously think that an entrepreneur isn't interested in having quality healthcare so that his employees don't get sick?!
                What if the roads were terrible and all logistics went to hell?
                A normal capitalist gives:
                - VHI
                - Insurance
                - referral to advanced training courses
                And so on, which will allow you to grow into a good specialist who will earn him money. But in no way will it oppress you, turning you into a bruised vegetable.
                And the capitalist creates these conditions based on the labor market in a particular region, which is perfectly normal. But the situation in the region is already being created by the STATE!
                Wake up, all your complaints are clearly not directed at the capitalist, in my opinion.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2025 10: 52
                  I gave you specific figures and facts. You responded with nothing but demagoguery.
                  [/ Quote]

                  [quote]And as an example you gave... Bangladesh!! BANGLADESH??!!

                  The figures in our country, according to my enterprise, differ from those in Bangladesh, but the important thing is that the fact of exploitation is the same.
                  Do you understand the word FACT or does it also require clarification? Or the word EXPLOITATION?
                  I think you said above that you know him, that you already graduated?


                  I would like to put two things in perspective.
                  1 - STATE STRUCTURE
                  Taxes, benefits, healthcare, pensions. Do you seriously think the capitalists are to blame for the VAT increase to 22%? They want to pay more?!
                  Do you seriously think that an entrepreneur raised the retirement age so that more old people would work for him?!

                  What do you think a state is? Do you understand the meaning of the words "BOURGEOIS STATE"? Or the meaning of the words "RULING CLASS"?
                  If you think that the state is a supra-class structure, then you are either naive, uneducated, or a fraud.
                  Pretending to be naive. You're not up to the first, you've given up the second, so the third remains.
                  For the second option, I refer you to Lenin's work, The State and Revolution; he describes well whether the state is connected to classes or not.


                  2 - Economic system.

                  Do you think that the economic system and the state are not connected in any way?
                  I am sending you back to study Lenin's work: State and Revolution


                  Do you seriously think that an entrepreneur isn't interested in having quality healthcare so that his employees don't get sick?!
                  What if the roads were terrible and all logistics went to hell?
                  A normal capitalist gives:
                  - VHI
                  - Insurance

                  1. What is the percentage of "normal capitalists"
                  2. What is the scope of medical services covered by voluntary health insurance?
                  3. What should a person do when he retires?
                  4. Children, family
                  etc.
                  Are you trying to compare this with Soviet medicine?


                  - referral to advanced training courses, etc., which will allow you to develop into a good specialist who will earn him money.

                  for personal gain, and even then not always. And this by no means means that it is in the interests of society as a whole.
                  Don't even compare it to the Soviet education system.


                  But in no way will it oppress you, making you a bruised vegetable.

                  Well, yes, he does it purely out of a sense of charity. And he built his latest yacht himself in the garage, in his spare time from caring for me.



                  And the capitalist creates these conditions based on the labor market in a particular region, which is perfectly normal. But the situation in the region is already being created by the STATE!
                  Wake up, all your complaints are clearly not directed at the capitalist, in my opinion.

                  Once again you prove yourself to be an uneducated person.

                  You are simply a demagogue, sir.
                  1. +1
                    26 November 2025 14: 02
                    Quote: October
                    1. What is the percentage of "normal capitalists"
                    2. What is the scope of medical services covered by voluntary health insurance?
                    3. What should a person do when he retires?
                    4. Children, family
                    etc.
                    Are you trying to compare this with Soviet medicine?

                    In the Russian Federation, normal capitalists are a minority, in the US they are the majority, and among the large ones, almost all of them...
                    Below is an example of the benefits package (picture) at the Ford Corporation in the USA. Sorry, I didn't explain each item in detail, but if you look, the benefits package is at least as good as at some Soviet Ministry of Medium Machine Building. It includes training, pensions, healthcare, sick leave, etc. The corporation even offers sports complexes and other leisure activities free of charge to its employees.
                    Quote: October
                    Don't even compare it to the Soviet education system.

                    What's there to compare? The Soviet education system was more expansive, the Western one more narrowly focused. But for a factory, who do you think is more valuable: someone with broad views or someone with narrow but more profound views on their specialty? So, for an individual, the Soviet system is better, for a specific job, the Western one. But in reality, after two or three years, practice and learning ability are more important than the country's education.
                    And if we are in a country where developed capitalism has never existed, there is no point in extending this situation to the entire world.
                    1. 0
                      27 November 2025 09: 31
                      In the Russian Federation, normal capitalists are a minority, in the US they are the majority, and among the large ones, almost all of them...
                      Below is an example of the benefits package (picture) at the Ford Corporation in the USA. Sorry, I didn't explain each item in detail, but if you look, the benefits package is at least as good as at some Soviet Ministry of Medium Machine Building. It includes training, pensions, healthcare, sick leave, etc. The corporation even offers sports complexes and other leisure activities free of charge to its employees.

                      Let's say I believe you and corporate health insurance is the most wonderful thing there is.
                      And this includes family and pension, as well as all possible types of treatment in unlimited quantities.
                      There are two major questions remaining.
                      1) What to do for those who don’t have it.
                      2) A financial crisis will occur, which happens there periodically. Your employee will be thrown out onto the street. Even giants like these do this.
                      like Intel, Microsoft, GM... What will he do there with nothing left?

                      In general, I read about their health insurance, don’t doubt it. For example
                      How does health insurance work in the US?
                      [https://dzen.ru/a/YN0XqdCKGgtRRbTg?ysclid=migznywob286165610]
                      [https://vk.com/wall-119282649_126559?ysclid=migzvf1sd2354100701]

                      I got nothing from reading this except a feeling of deep disgust, believe me.

                      What's there to compare? The Soviet education system was more expansive, the Western one more narrowly focused. But for a factory, who do you think is more valuable: someone with broad views or someone with narrow but more profound views on their specialty? So, for an individual, the Soviet system is better, for a specific job, the Western one. But in reality, after two or three years, practice and learning ability are more important than the country's education.

                      Please note, I studied at Industrial Electronics, but I was also trained to be a plant manager. A Western specialist wouldn't be given that knowledge, i.e.
                      His career was immediately curtailed from above. And why would a bourgeois need a specialist who would criticize his actions? A clueless employee?
                      It's easier to manage and manipulate. I won't even mention that a person might want to get their second degree in a completely different profession, completely unrelated.
                      With my first and current jobs. That is, in the USSR, people are REALLY free, unlike under capitalism.

                      And if we are in a country where developed capitalism has never existed, there is no point in extending this situation to the entire world.


                      I tried to convey to you above what your developed capitalism is, but if you have a yacht waiting for you at your personal dock or, at worst, a Mercedes 600,
                      then I think we won't understand each other.
                      1. +1
                        27 November 2025 11: 23
                        Quote: October
                        There are two major questions remaining.
                        1) What to do for those who don’t have it.
                        2) There will be a financial crisis, which happens there

                        Well, you know, in this situation, you need to be a good, valuable, and in-demand specialist, and I think you can handle it. But in a major crisis in a non-capitalist country, will everyone be okay? A crisis is a crisis (and it only happens for a couple of years every 50 years), but we're talking about a normal economy.
                        Quote: October
                        His career was immediately curtailed from above. And why would a bourgeois need a specialist who would criticize his actions? A clueless employee?

                        It's absolutely not prohibited, and in my opinion, it's more effective to separately study management, and the road up is even easier than in the USSR, since there's less competition. In the army, to become a colonel, you need an academy (even though they teach command at a military university, too), so why do you think it's abnormal that in order to become a director, you also need to study?
                        Quote: October
                        I tried to convey to you above what your developed capitalism is, but if you have a yacht waiting for you at your personal dock or, at worst, a Mercedes 600,
                        then I think we won't understand each other.

                        I have neither, I live slightly above average... I don't support the current leadership's policies, but I also don't believe in the possibility of a revival of the USSR, and I think that the experience of building communism has yielded unsatisfactory results - a brief overview. hi
                        Quote: October
                        How does health insurance work in the US?
                        [https://dzen.ru/a/YN0XqdCKGgtRRbTg?ysclid=migznywob286165610]
                        [https://vk.com/wall-119282649_126559?ysclid=migzvf1sd2354100701]

                        I read it... it's generally correct, but a bit jumbled and there are some nuances, in short:
                        1. 50% of Americans have insurance through their employer (i.e., free)
                        2. Many programs for low-income people with compensation for their insurance costs
                        3. The numbers seem high to us, but given an average salary of 4200 (350 rubles per month), even after buying life insurance (if it's not free and without benefits, then 35 rubles per month), it's still pretty good. So, when assessing prices in the US, you need to look not at our realities and incomes, but at the fact that their average income is 4 times higher, and prices on average are about 2 times lower for healthcare, utilities, and food, while clothes and cars are much cheaper...
                      2. 0
                        29 November 2025 18: 04
                        Well, you know, in this situation you need to be a good, valuable, and in-demand specialist, and I think you can handle it... But in a major crisis in a non-capitalist country, will everything be okay for everyone?

                        That is, you immediately wrote off 90% of people as "off-limits." Die. Very humane.

                        A crisis is a crisis (and it only happens for a couple of years once every 50 years), but we're talking about the normal state of the economy.


                        Here is a list from the bourgeois Wikipedia
                        [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_economic_crises]
                        In my opinion, being in a state of crisis is the “normal state of the economy” for capitalism.
                        Yes, and specialists from Intel, Microsoft, and others are being fired right now because of artificial intelligence. I don't know if they're experiencing a crisis or not.


                        It's absolutely not prohibited, and in my opinion, it's more effective if you study management separately, and the road up is even easier than in the USSR, since there's less competition. In the army, to become a colonel, you need an academy (even though they teach command at military schools, too),


                        You are again pushing out propaganda in the style of Goebbels: "Rus, surrender! German officers and soldiers will give the convert a good reception, feed him, and find him work!"
                        For several decades now, our company has had a director who is the heir of one of the owners. This is also true for a number of large nearby companies.
                        Although there are exceptions to every rule.

                        Yes, and I believe that the experience of building communism has yielded unsatisfactory results.


                        I assume you are from the post-Soviet generation, who are also intoxicated by anti-Soviet propaganda.

                        I read it... it's generally correct, but a bit jumbled and there are some nuances, in short:
                        1. 50% of Americans have insurance through their employer (i.e., free)
                        2. Many programs for low-income people with compensation for their insurance costs
                        3. The numbers seem high to us, but given an average salary of 4200 (350 rubles per month), even after buying life insurance (if it's not free and without benefits, then 35 rubles per month), it's still pretty good. That is, when assessing prices in the US, you need to look not at our realities and incomes, but at the fact that their average income is 4 times higher, and prices on average are about 2 times lower for healthcare, utilities, and food, while things and cars are much cheaper.


                        Yeah... 60 million Americans get food stamps. They have such a big appetite (they're portrayed as fat for a reason),
                        That their great American salaries weren't enough, so they asked for more food. And they got it. And there's nothing to say about healthcare.
                        I already wrote to you above that, apart from a feeling of disgust, I feel nothing when reading about all their medical programs.
                        Probably because I'm from the USSR, where they didn't tell me that for 1 ruble we'll fix one tooth for you. But we won't fix the second one because you don't have 2 rubles.
                        For Americans who previously lacked affordable healthcare, this is probably progress and they are happy about it.

                        In general, I would like to give one more assessment here; we were told about it in the course on the political economy of socialism.
                        At the very beginning, speaking about the classic exploitation, I showed the figures according to which the worker receives a fraction of a percent of the result of his labor.
                        On the one hand, this speaks of exploitation. On the other, it speaks of the fact that labor productivity is now such that one person can easily do everything with their work.
                        to feed several. It is precisely at this level of civilization that socialism can emerge. It is for this reason that the Soviet economy
                        It was not difficult to support pensioners, to provide free healthcare for everyone (not based on the principle that you have as many teeth as you have money), etc.
                        And this is precisely what speaks to the fact that capitalism, at its core, is an INHUMAN, CANNIBAL system in its cruelty, when millions of people are deprived of medical care, education, etc., only so that the overwhelming minority can wallow in luxury at the expense of their misfortune.
                  2. 0
                    26 November 2025 14: 24
                    I have given you specific figures and facts.

                    About Bangladesh? Are you serious? Okay, fine, have it your way. Are you aware of the average salary in Bangladesh? Are you aware of how much wages and salaries are paid in taxes in that country? I know that no matter what, the government negotiates with them and they continue to work there. Exploitation? No, hired labor.
                    For the second option, I refer you to Lenin's work

                    If we want to talk about whether the state is a supra-class structure, then it is better to turn not to Lenin, but to Engels.
                    Don't even compare it to the Soviet education system.

                    Perhaps you misunderstood. I'm not making any comparisons. I'm simply very interested in the facts about why VO visitors hate capitalism. And I'll find out what Bangladesh is for. I've already written somewhere here that the industrial revolution and capitalism gave birth to general education. Including Soviet education.
                    Well, yes, he does it purely out of a sense of charity. And he built his latest yacht himself in the garage, in his spare time from caring for me.

                    He bought the yacht with money from his business, which he founded.
                    You are simply a demagogue, sir.

                    Not at all, comrade.
                    1. +1
                      27 November 2025 09: 36
                      I know that the government comes to an agreement with them no matter what, and they continue to work there. Exploitation? No, it's hired labor.


                      You have a logical inconsistency in the ending.
                      "Exploitation? No, hired labor."

                      Yes, it's hired labor, but it's not fully paid. And the bourgeois will pocket most of the difference between the money earned and the hired worker's salary and spend it as they see fit.
                      And what happens is exploitation.

                      If we want to talk about whether the state is a supra-class structure, then it is better to turn not to Lenin, but to Engels.


                      Let's begin, if you please, with Engels's "The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State." Show me where Engels separates the state from class. But only Engels himself, not his liberal interpreters.

                      You may have misunderstood. I'm not making any comparisons. I'm simply very interested in the facts about why VO visitors hate capitalism.
                      And I will find out what Bangladesh is.


                      You are twisting my words. You are demagogues.


                      I've already written somewhere here that the industrial revolution and capitalism gave birth to general education, including Soviet education.


                      They gave birth. And they gave. In the bare minimum possible, for the sake of economy and their own security. It's no wonder that by 1980, the USSR was producing more inventions than Japan and the United States combined. And now China is following suit.

                      He bought the yacht with money from his business, which he founded.


                      From money underpaid to the hired worker, i.e. from money from exploitation.
                      1. +1
                        28 November 2025 09: 11
                        Yes, it is hired labor, but it is not fully paid.

                        It's paid at market rates. People won't accept work for obviously worse conditions. This is one of the reasons for the transition from slavery to feudalism.
                        the bourgeois will put most of the difference between the money earned and the salary of the hired worker into his own pocket

                        Yes, a capitalist strives to increase their profits. This allows them to recoup their investments in establishing the enterprise and create reserves for expansion. Again, everything depends on the market situation.
                        where Engels separates the state from the classes.

                        Engels doesn't tear it apart, but rather points out and proves that if the structure of the state is handed over to the proletariat, then the state itself is eliminated. Police and court institutions are no longer needed to protect this power. The USSR had them even under Lenin. This indicates either that the USSR was, after all, a bourgeois state, or that Engels' theorem is not applicable in practice. Which option suits you better?
                        They gave birth. And gave. In the bare minimum possible amount for the sake of economy and their own safety.

                        Nevertheless, this is a manifestation of social orientation. Without it, capitalism, alas, is impossible. Even in Bangladesh, generating capacity, ports, and roads were improved. And then healthcare and so on. Everything improved. Of course, this doesn't compare to the USSR, but there's no denying it.
                        It's no wonder that by 1980, the USSR was producing more inventions than Japan and the United States combined. And now China is following suit.

                        Which of these inventions were put into production in the USSR? And which in Japan and the USA?
                        From the money not paid to the employee

                        First of all, the owner of the company exploits me by not paying me enough.

                        I heard the reason and understood. Simply money. A thirst for more money and resentment that the capitalist has it. The wording may be inappropriate, but that's how I see the situation. The mundane has won out in you, so why can't it win out in the capitalist? As a wage worker myself, I won't accept the idea of ​​being exploited. I earn money and can leave at any time for various reasons.
                      2. 0
                        29 November 2025 18: 10
                        It is paid at market rate.


                        Here you've signed the death knell for the market system. This is precisely why the market (and with it, capitalism) must die. Because of its blatant injustice. As for what determines the price of labor in the market and why, read Marx's Capital, Vol. 1, Chapter 4, Section 3, "The Buying and Selling of Labor Power." I'd like to quote Trump's recent words from the Telegram channel; they're perfectly timed.

                        Trump calls on McDonald's to lead the fight against minimum wage hikes

                        At the McDonald's Impact Summit, US President Donald Trump called on restaurant owners and operators to actively oppose a minimum wage increase. The president believes such an increase could have negative consequences for the country's economy.

                        In his speech, Trump noted that wage growth in the country is the highest in decades. He urged business representatives to raise their concerns about the potential harm of further wage increases with their members of Congress and Senators.

                        "The minimum wage is something you're going to have to talk about. You're going to have to fight it," Trump emphasized, addressing the audience.

                        As an example, the president criticized the authorities of California, where they recently decided to raise the minimum hourly wage for fast food workers to $20.

                        Support (https://t.me/dialectic_club/10860)



                        Yes, a capitalist strives to increase their profits. This allows them to recoup their investments in establishing the enterprise and create reserves for expansion. Again, everything depends on the market situation.


                        Haven't you hung a portrait of this ideal capitalist as an icon in your home and prayed to him yet? If you look at the article above, you'll see that the capitalist will most likely export his capital, as it's profitable for him, and invest it abroad. He'll also spend a huge, disproportionate portion of it on himself, buying several yachts for himself, priced comparable to a naval warship, building 20 palaces around the world, and so on.
                        And if the market behaves accordingly, he will close the plant and leave you to die of hunger.

                        Engels doesn't tear it apart, but rather points out and proves that if the structure of the state is handed over to the proletariat, then the state itself is eliminated. Police and court institutions are no longer needed to protect this power. The USSR had them even under Lenin. This indicates either that the USSR was, after all, a bourgeois state, or that Engels' theorem is not applicable in practice. Which option suits you better?


                        The question isn't which one suits you, but what actually happens. In reality, you're simply a fraud who's taken it upon himself to speak for Engels and interpret his words as he sees fit, completely unaware of their meaning. If you want to continue the conversation on this topic, go to his quotes.
                        I would recommend that you study up, for which purpose you should read Lenin's State and Revolution.

                        Nevertheless, this is a manifestation of social orientation. Without it, capitalism, alas, is impossible. Even in Bangladesh, generating capacity, ports, and roads were improved. And then healthcare and so on. Everything improved. Of course, this doesn't compare to the USSR, but there's no denying it.


                        I don't deny it. I just don't understand why we have to stop there.

                        Which of these inventions were put into production in the USSR? And which in Japan and the USA?


                        You forgot to add, as in the joke, "List all 20 million by name."

                        I heard the reason and understood. It's simply money. A thirst for more money and resentment that the capitalist has it. The wording may be inappropriate, but that's how I see the situation. The worldly has won out in you, so why can't it win out in the capitalist?


                        Look at it any way you like. But I prefer the idea of ​​fairness. Why should I work until I'm 65 instead of 60, given that I'm a bourgeois?
                        Is he sailing around on a yacht somewhere with this difference? Why can't they increase my pension, and I'll have to eke out a miserable existence on it, again because some bourgeois is sailing somewhere? And why can't I reduce the workday to four hours a day with pay, since I earned my keep for a fraction of an hour?
                        The fact that the bourgeois will be left without an extra yacht does not interest me.

                        I won't accept the idea of ​​being exploited. I earn money and can leave at any time for various reasons.


                        Whether you accept objective reality or not, it doesn't change anything. It just is.
                      3. 0
                        30 November 2025 10: 37
                        Because of its blatant injustice.

                        You're talking about the thirst for money again. But nothing more. You could cite examples of injustice under socialism and the planned economy. But that won't fix your dislike of someone else having more. And you won't even consider the idea that someone was simply smarter and built the necessary production.
                        given the corresponding market behavior

                        Why does a cow need a saddle? Are you going to plow a garden when it's not producing a harvest? If production isn't producing the desired output and profit, then the question arises: is the factory even necessary?
                        who took it upon himself to speak for Engels and interpret his words at his own discretion, without understanding their meaning at all.

                        Or who understands the meaning and understands the world around him.
                        go to quotes from it

                        I won't search verbatim. But I remember about power in the hands of the proletariat.
                        I would recommend that you study up, for which purpose you should read Lenin's State and Revolution.

                        Alas, I read it a long time ago. And I didn't see this implemented even in the early USSR. And given Lenin's policy of criticism in 1917, it becomes clear why.
                        The fact that the bourgeois will be left without an extra yacht does not interest me.

                        The bourgeois will still have a yacht. You talk about a pension at 65, but who pays it and with what money? The capitalist has already paid taxes to the state for you to provide for your personal pension.
                        Why can't I reduce my working day to 4 hours a day while keeping my salary, since I worked my time for a fraction of an hour?

                        A capitalist could introduce piecework wages. Would that be fairer?
                        Whether you accept objective reality or not, it doesn't change anything. It just is.

                        Ironically, you're right about that.
                      4. 0
                        30 November 2025 17: 20
                        Or who understands the meaning and understands the world around him.

                        You are just a liar.
                        And a demagogue. They didn't answer a single one of my questions and started talking about the white bull again.
                        Conversation is over.
                        Yes, I don't believe you're a worker. Your style is wrong.
                        You are a bourgeois, most likely a small one.
                      5. -1
                        30 November 2025 18: 04
                        You are just a liar.

                        And you, my friend, are a nasty troublemaker.
                        And a demagogue. You didn't answer a single one of my questions.

                        If you mean that your whining about the bourgeois yacht were questions, then I answered them.
                        Yes, I don't believe you're a worker. Your style is wrong.

                        I probably just don't fit your standards. I'm a worker, but only a department manager within the company. And I worked my way up to this position, from the bottom.
                        You are a bourgeois, most likely a small one.

                        Well, let you think that I am writing to you from a yacht.
              2. +1
                26 November 2025 13: 38
                Quote: October
                Now, I believe, taxes are much lower, and those that we pay largely (if not mostly) go to support business, of course.

                Don't assume, but tell me—what kind of businesses are they supporting? All sorts of semi-state, semi-private JSCs and OJSCs? It's a stretch to say that supporting business in the country is possible.
                1. 0
                  27 November 2025 09: 28
                  Don't assume, but tell me—what kind of businesses are they supporting? All sorts of semi-state, semi-private JSCs and OJSCs? It's a stretch to say that supporting business in the country is possible.


                  Since when does a state in which a bourgeois dictatorship has been established have enterprises that have nothing to do with business?
                  In a state where the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is established, even purely state-owned enterprises live by the laws of business.

                  And if I answer your question directly, then it applies to everything. Both large and small.
                  I'll limit myself to one link on government services - small and medium businesses
                  [https://www.gosuslugi.ru/life/details/business_support_measures]
                  although the number of links on this topic in Yandex is dazzling.

                  As for the major ones, I'll limit myself to this, for example: "The Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Energy will develop tax breaks for oil and gas companies."
                  [https://www.forbes.ru/biznes/541165-minfin-s-minenergo-razrabotaut-l-goty-po-nalogam-dla-neftegazovyh-kompanij?ysclid=migyjg7lne985273297]
                  "The document states that preferential tax regimes may be granted to companies in the oil, natural gas, and gas condensate production sectors."

                  Moreover, there is a practice known as "privatization of profits, nationalization of losses." This is when the state buys out unprofitable enterprises from the bourgeoisie.
                  and then hands them successful businesses. Need specific examples of this?
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2025 10: 52
                    Quote: October
                    Since when does a state in which a bourgeois dictatorship has been established have enterprises that have nothing to do with business?
                    In a state where the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is established, even purely state-owned enterprises live by the laws of business.

                    So, we don't have a bourgeois dictatorship—it's very simple. When a joint-stock company (JSC) or an open joint-stock company (OJSC) goes into debt and then has it paid off by the state, that's clearly not bourgeois business. Given that profits are consistently divided among shareholders, or is that how you think business is run? Or is it also classic business when the state gives interest-free loans to a company where it holds 51% interest? I don't think so. That's some kind of improper way to support business.
                    Quote: October
                    Moreover, there is a practice known as "privatization of profits, nationalization of losses." This is when the state buys out unprofitable enterprises from the bourgeoisie.

                    What's so smart about that? Ah, well, then there are the subsidies, as part of supporting business... I understand... but that also has nothing to do with the classical understanding of business... It's more like some kind of state capitalism with a strange twist... like what Marx thought of? Agree that Marx didn't consider such a strange capitalism... maybe that's why it's not capitalism? hi
                    1. 0
                      29 November 2025 18: 00
                      This means that we don’t have a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie - everything is very simple,


                      Once again, I see either naivety or illiteracy. I refer you to Lenin's "State and Revolution."

                      Because when a JSC or OJSC gets into debt and then pays it off at the state's expense, that's clearly not bourgeois business.


                      Don't lump all the joint-stock companies together. State Corporation Energy, a remnant of the Soviet space program, is one thing. Its debts are a death sentence for capitalism, which can't handle high technology. Rosneft, however, is something entirely different. By lumping everything together, you're engaging in brazen manipulation.

                      given that the profit is consistently divided between shareholders, or is this how you think business is done?


                      Yes, yes, I know, it's called "people's capitalism." In this case, one, two, or three shareholders own 80% of the shares, making all the decisions and receiving the bulk of the profits. For example, my mother worked at the same company her entire life, received shares, and now I receive 2000 rubles in dividends a year.
                      About 200 rubles a month. Will you consider me an oligarch?
                      Propaganda at the level of Goebbels.



                      Or is it also classic business when the state gives interest-free loans to a company with 51% interest? I don't think so. That's some kind of improper business support.


                      But 49% belongs to a couple of oligarchs, and they are rubbing their hands with glee, receiving superprofits.


                      Quote: October
                      Moreover, there is a practice known as "privatization of profits, nationalization of losses." This is when the state buys out unprofitable enterprises from the bourgeoisie.


                      What's so smart about that? Ah, well, then there are the subsidies, as part of supporting business... I understand... but that also has nothing to do with the classical understanding of business... It's more like some kind of state capitalism with a strange twist... like what Marx thought of? Agree that Marx didn't consider such a strange capitalism... maybe that's why it's not capitalism?


                      Don't attribute your thoughts to Marx. A capitalist's only concern is profit, no matter the cost.
                      Marx's famous saying
                      "Give capital 10 percent profit, and capital will agree to any use; at 20 percent it becomes animated; at 50 percent it is positively ready to break its neck; at 100 percent it tramples on all human laws; at 300 percent there is no crime it would not risk, even under threat of the gallows."


                      I can just picture you as a "pioneer" (bourgeois)
                      "No, I can't make a profit this way....This is clearly not a bourgeois business."

                      How did you even come up with this stupidity?
    3. +3
      25 November 2025 14: 30
      Dear Belisarius! I may not have reached the clarity and depth of Lenin's text, but it should be understood that I wrote an article, not a book. A book would have given my pen free rein, but it wouldn't have been possible to publish it here. Do you agree? Secondly, you may have overlooked the table in the article. It lists in the right-hand column some characteristics of MODERN imperialism. They may be controversial, I agree, but they are based on Lenin's work! Thank you for your criticism, and it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong. It's polite, not like a hole-puncher who fancies himself a psychiatric genius (I'm referring to his comments that begin with the word "nonsense").
      1. +3
        26 November 2025 03: 48
        Quote: roosei
        A book like this would give my pen a lot of room to breathe, but it wouldn't be possible to publish it here. Do you agree?

        I agree.
        Quote: roosei
        There are some signs of MODERN imperialism indicated in the right column.

        Thank you, I saw it. But I don't quite agree here. Your table contains many features that are characteristic of the old imperialism (that is, not specific features of the new imperialism), and which are non-economic in nature. Lenin primarily analyzed imperialism as a system of economic relations and its interrelationships with politics.
        The main characteristic of the new imperialism (globalism), in my view, is that capital within it is transnational and transnational in nature, meaning it is not tied to individual countries (even imperialist ones) and, in fact, even opposes them. The second characteristic is that finance capital has now become the dominant force and is "untethered" from real production.
        Within the bounds of politeness, not like a hole puncher who imagines himself a genius of psychiatry (I'm talking about his comments that begin with the word "nonsense")

        Don't be offended, Russians are fanatical; it's our national trait, both our strength and our weakness. Moreover, the less logic, the more fanaticism. In Dyrokol's case, he tries to refute the words in the article describing Lenin's work in the early 20th century with examples from the late 20th and early 21st centuries. smile
  7. 0
    25 November 2025 06: 03
    Thanks to the author. But the topic is so complex that it's impossible to summarize it in a few lines. Despite all its similarities, capitalism is different everywhere. National characteristics and each country's ability to resist oppression overlap. In one country, corporations sponsor cultural and sports development. In another, banks have a monopoly, and their loans are costly for businesses.
  8. +7
    25 November 2025 06: 23
    Is this article nonsense or a revelation?
    As long as the USSR existed, the scales of life on Earth were balanced. Now, "we bourgeois" have attempted to tip the scales. The balance has shifted. The world has begun to slide toward yet another massacre.
    They didn't let us into the neighbor's bowl, we're looking for our place in the world, but there's no balance...
  9. +1
    25 November 2025 08: 05
    And the enemies of the USSR, for almost 40 years after their capture of the USSR, have not been able to prove in any way - neither by what they did, nor by the results of their work, which they obtained from them - large, enormous, colossal - in comparison with the people, salaries and incomes - how capitalism is better than socialism in the USSR.
    They simply slandered the USSR, with their Perestroika they proceeded with manic criticism of how Soviet communists and their supporters worked, they present as the superiority of capitalism in general over socialism in the USSR only the countries of the “golden billion”, in which real capitalism has long been absent.
    And about their capitalism, they only brag - how much they HAVE got, how many imported goods they bought, how they gorged themselves on counterfeit Soviet products, because "at least now they have everything."
  10. -10
    25 November 2025 08: 08
    Sacred private property has taken over the minds and souls of people, only a few find the strength to resist Mammon
    .
    The author, following his own example, handed over, I hope, his private apartment, dacha, and garage to the state and lives in social housing for rent?
    Or does he serve mammon, hoping to profit from the sale?
    1. -2
      25 November 2025 08: 38
      Quote: Olgovich
      The author, following his own example, handed over, I hope, his private apartment, dacha, and garage to the state and lives in social housing for rent?

      A communist calling on God is a pathetic sight...
      1. +1
        25 November 2025 13: 50
        On the contrary, Christians and communists, as it turns out, have much more in common than the bourgeoisie. It's no wonder the Spas channel shows Soviet films.
      2. +2
        25 November 2025 14: 40
        The anti-communist evokes not only pity but also disgust, since rummaging through feces, even literary ones, is not at all comme il faut. Don't you, by any chance, have portraits of Yeltsin and Hitler in a place of honor?
        1. -2
          25 November 2025 18: 10
          Quote: roosei
          By any chance, do you have portraits of Yeltsin and Hitler in a place of honor?

          If only for you a cesspool evokes honor and respect.
          Do you hide your party card in the Bible?
    2. +3
      25 November 2025 14: 38
      What I have, I got from the USSR. I advise you not to throw some substance on the fan. Besides, it's no fun talking to you. Every anti-Soviet has a set of cliches, handed down by Churchill, Hitler, and Solzhenitsyn. Nothing new, just old manuals.
      1. -2
        25 November 2025 19: 16
        Quote: roosei
        Oh, what I have, I received from the USSR.

        you received a STATE apartment, which privatized.

        But what about... the princes? Mammon? lol

        It's not interesting to talk to you, though. Every advisor has a set of cliches handed out by Yezhov and his deputies. Nothing new, just old manuals.
  11. +3
    25 November 2025 08: 11
    Well, if capitalism has its highest stage, then why in the article (in its last section about the highest stage of capitalism in our time) not a word is said about the state of capitalism in Russia.
    After all, Russia is now under capitalism. What state and stage of development is capitalism in Russia today? Not a word!
    But since both imperialism and empire derive from the same word, imperium—power—then Russia's imperial state, outside of which it cannot exist, is also about power, how it is governed, and its current state. What state is it? It's about the Russian Empire, a state in which Russia cannot exist. The government is afraid to even mention this, just like the author of the article about the stage of capitalism in Russia.
    No, but the Tsarist-Monarchist-Stalinist Empire lasted for 400 years until 1953, then traitors destroyed it, and now the authorities are talking about the urgent need to return the country to that imperial state in which it grew from a small Muscovite Kingdom to the most powerful and largest Empire - to the Red Stalinist Empire - about this they don’t say a word... So, from whom will we take an example of how Russia should live - from Russia itself from the time of the Great Ivan the Terrible and from the glorious subsequent history of Russia until the death of the Great Stalin, or will we take an example from our eternal enemies who always wanted and now want the destruction of Russia - from the imperialists of the West?
    1. 0
      25 November 2025 08: 25
      The enemies of the USSR, not only for the sake of profit in their lying and hypocritical anti-Sovietism, praise "Russia, which we lost" in October 1917, they praise the rich and richest parasites of the Russian Empire, they returned it all, but for some reason they are not proud of it, and chant in chorus that they have "nothing to do with it", because they themselves admit that all this is bad for the country and the people.
    2. +4
      25 November 2025 14: 41
      Dear Sever 2! Can you even imagine how long an article about the situation in Russia would take? And yet, there's a Russian Criminal Code that says telling the truth about capitalism can land you in hot water.
    3. 0
      Today, 02: 16
      Don't expect anything good from the authorities—a bourgeois counterrevolution has been carried out, and the permanent "cultural corruption of the contingent" is underway. Notice how, at the slightest provocation: "Why didn't you personally defend us?" "Why didn't the people defend us?"—that is, they appeal to "His Excellency, the personal worthlessness," and, therefore, understand that victory lies with the unconscious steamroller of public psychology. Just the other day, another attack on them in the "Dolina v. Kugelman" case demonstrated that pro-bourgeois judicial arbitrariness has been noticed and not approved... However, time is short: "Russian" is a unique political-economic system, but its unconscious exploitation has already been exhausted.
      The only thing we can do is clarify the definitions presented by the "educated" that confuse people's minds. "Welfare state," "democracy" is a procedure. Oh, I'm going to fall off my chair laughing right now...
  12. +1
    25 November 2025 08: 55
    There's an example of capitalism and socialism developing on a single patch of land. Look at the data on living standards in both Koreas.
    But seriously, what's wrong with capitalism for most VO readers? Is it that the market dictates wages or the price of goods? So, we want to work for a big salary but buy everything cheap? How is that even possible? Or is it that one person, being literate, opened his own business and made a fortune, while another just sweeps the yard? Or doesn't work at all, and they don't give out criminal charges for that anymore? Or is it that someone seized the opportunity and bought commercial real estate and is now renting it out? What's the problem, explain it in plain English? Just don't cite examples of people who simply robbed others, like Soros, Berezovsky, Abramovich, and other criminals.
    And the idea that capitalism can't be socially oriented is also a lie. Capitalism gave birth to the Industrial Revolution. Or vice versa—it makes no difference in the same context. It gave birth to a range of freedoms and education. Even Witte and Stolypin carried out their social reforms, granting political and social freedoms, understanding that without them, capitalism could not exist.
    And the main impetus is education. After all, no one can work in a company without knowledge. And this has happened all over the world. At the same time, the capitalist can spend money on social programs, and does. A number of countries with the best standard of living are actually monarchies. Millions of migrants go to capitalist countries because life is better there, etc. And those who are smart and not afraid of work can actually strike it rich. And an example in Russia is Galitsky. How much he did for Krasnodar. Is he also a terrible capitalist?
    1. 0
      25 November 2025 12: 40
      There's an example of capitalism and socialism developing on a single patch of land. Look at the data on living standards in both Koreas.

      Yes, take a look. During the first decade after the war. Maybe you'll understand something about your example.
      1. -1
        25 November 2025 19: 36
        So what's the outcome? Who are they sending the humanitarian aid to?
  13. +3
    25 November 2025 08: 59
    Thanks to the author.
    There are a number of questions regarding the article.
    About the military seizure of natural resources, for example. Trading is cheaper than fighting. We've been willing to sell them to anyone who wants them, and we're ready to continue selling them.
    Regarding the dogma of private property - what's wrong with it if this property was obtained honestly?
    Etc.
    But I supported it with a kopeck simply because a lot of work had been done and the article at least makes you THINK, and not just swallow it, laugh and forget, as is happening with one odious local political officer.
    1. +2
      25 November 2025 09: 22
      Quote: Mishka78
      Regarding the dogma of private property - what's wrong with it if this property was obtained honestly?

      Perhaps you're talking about personal property? Let me remind you that private property is a means of generating surplus value.
      1. +1
        25 November 2025 09: 39
        Quote: Konnick
        Perhaps you're talking about personal property? Let me remind you that private property is a means of generating surplus value.

        I meant both. There's no point in discussing the personal stuff, it's all obvious.
        Private - so someone creates a business and runs it. Opens a store, a candle factory, or a cow farm. Pays taxes with their own money, loans, etc. Creates jobs and pays them. What's wrong with that?
        And then some official from the regional administration comes along and says, "I looked at your little shop and thought of this. Here, my friend, I'll give you a nominal 100 rubles, and you'll sign it over to my sister. And if you don't want the 100 rubles, tomorrow the sanitary and epidemiological service, the fire department, and the tax office will come and inspect you, and the day after that, it might accidentally burn down. What a load of crap..."
    2. +4
      25 November 2025 14: 43
      Thank you! I still want to write a sequel. In the meantime, I'm looking at what people are saying in the comments.
      1. +2
        25 November 2025 17: 29
        Quote: roosei
        I still want to write a sequel. In the meantime, I'm looking at what people are saying in the comments.

        The number of comments indicates interest in this "popular essay," as Lenin called his thoughts and conclusions on imperialism in this work. Some people are hearing about it for the first time, I understand. wink I always recommend this essay to anyone who wants to understand what's driving the world and Russia today. The war in Ukraine is no exception.
        Next year, they're introducing a "Philosophy" course in schools and universities. It's scary to think about what textbooks and who will teach young people how to think.
        Thank you for drawing attention to Lenin's powerful work, which explains a lot. Keep writing.
        1. +1
          25 November 2025 19: 05
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          Next year, they're introducing a "Philosophy" course in schools and universities. It's scary to think about what textbooks and who will teach young people how to think.

          Poor kids.
          However, if the introduction will only be in specialized classes and universities, then it is even necessary for familiarization.
          1. 0
            25 November 2025 19: 39
            The Ministry of Education and Science has declared philosophy and history mandatory for all students.
            https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/692454eb9a7947739bf6d909

            One of the main propagandists of capitalist power, Solovyov, calls himself a Marxist. belay But there are those who believe him. Ulyanov once said he would take a different path than his brother. Today, there is no party that will say, "There is such a party!" And that is Russia's misfortune.
      2. 0
        26 November 2025 01: 23
        Quote: roosei
        Thank you! I still want to write a sequel.In the meantime, I'll look at what people are writing in the comments.

        Oh... And for THAT, I have so much respect! We're looking forward to it! I wish you success in this field, author. This topic is in demand. Just be careful not to tip your hand to the management company.hi
  14. BAI
    0
    25 November 2025 09: 00
    1.
    Singer company.

    Zinger, probably.
    2. Capital flight is now defined not as investing abroad, but as the export of stolen assets for the purpose of evading taxes and confiscation. In other words, it is no longer an economic, but a criminal act.
    3. So what's the deeper meaning of the article? That two plus two still equals four even today? Did the author expect the definition of imperialism to change every 10 years and was surprised to learn that nothing had changed in 100 years?
    1. +1
      25 November 2025 14: 44
      Please at least take a look at the table in the article. It may not be your favorite comics, but it's similar. Maybe it'll shed some light?
      1. BAI
        -1
        25 November 2025 15: 04
        Just look at the table in the article.

        But this is precisely what we shouldn't show to anyone. Because only Russia and Israel meet all seven points of modern imperialism.
        Only these two countries carried out annexation (to put it bluntly, without demagoguery) (item 7 of the table) in the post-war years. This is precisely why no one supported Russia's actions in Ukraine. The FRG and the GDR united voluntarily, without weapons.
        According to the table, the main imperialists are Russia and Israel, while the US, France and Britain are just smoking on the sidelines.
        1. 0
          26 November 2025 01: 27
          Quote: BAI
          But you can’t show it to anyone.

          Well, why are you like that? belayWell, you can't see the edges of the glass at all. laughing (and in general my text).
  15. -2
    25 November 2025 09: 14
    As for imperialism, I've always been against it, both domestically and internationally, because empires fall apart; it's an objective historical law. Why build something that will fall apart?
    Why we don't need an empire
    The territorial model of empire is a metropolis, home to the ruling class, and colonies—"provinces"—(the hinterland, the periphery), conquered and held by force. The metropolis thrives on the colonies and their exploitation.
    The territorial alternative to empire is federation.

    The economic model of the empire is the exploitation of slaves and dependent categories of the population by the ruling elite. The socioeconomic alternative is social democracy.

    The political alternative to the imperial monarchical system is a parliamentary republic.

    The imperial structure of society is divided into an irreplaceable imperial ruling elite and the "common people." The alternative is a middle class and the absence of a so-called elite.

    So maybe the reason for the collapse of all empires is in themselves, in their unfair structure?
    1. 0
      26 November 2025 09: 33
      You certainly paint a logical and highly moral picture, but... Any attempt at a just organization of empires leads to their collapse and untold suffering for the population. We don't need abstract theoretical justice; give us order.
      1. 0
        26 November 2025 09: 42
        The point is that no attempts are necessary; empires inevitably collapse by themselves, due to their very nature, under the weight of their own shortcomings. Sometimes the process is slightly pushed forward by external factors, and sometimes they are not even needed.
      2. 0
        26 November 2025 10: 34
        And only on the ruins, on the ruins of the empire, do they try to build something new, sometimes just, sometimes not. Rome fell apart, and nothing arose. The Russian Empire fell apart, and the USSR was built. The Ottoman Empire fell apart, and a secular, "democratic" (so to speak) Turkey was built. Austria-Hungary fell apart, and the state of Austria remained, and it seems to be surviving for now.
        The British Empire collapsed, and each fragment went its own way. India went its own way, Canada-Australia-New Zealand went their own way, but something was happening.
  16. -2
    25 November 2025 09: 23
    Sacred private property has taken over the minds and souls of people; only a few find the strength to resist Mammon.


    I wrote about this.
    I believe that the right to private property should not be turned into an ideal, elevated to an absolute that is placed above human life. The right to private property should be understood in a finite and limited manner. That is, up to a certain amount established by law, beyond which it does not exist.
    The proceeds from large-scale property should benefit society as a whole, not just a single offshore oligarch.
  17. 0
    25 November 2025 09: 30
    And democracy, or, better to say, the semblance of democracy, serves only as a legal justification for all actions aimed at strengthening the power of the oligarchy.


    So, that's it! What we need is not just democracy, but social-democracy.
    The foundations of such a policy are high progressive taxes and the existence of a middle class as the main class of society, through redistribution. While maintaining a market economy, of course.
    The middle class is when a doctor, teacher, lecturer, researcher, worker receives a salary similar to that in the banking and oil sectors, and even a little more, due to the redistribution of excess income that is taken from the billionaire elites through progressive taxes.
    And this isn't just a mechanical set of economic and tax measures; it's much deeper: it's an ideology, a moral foundation for social life. This ideology places people, their work, talent, abilities, and well-being at the forefront, not the cult of so-called "success," billionaire status, and consumerism.
    - there should be no "elites", either we are all elites, or no one
    - establish in the Constitution and in the law an upper limit for enrichment, and everything above it should be nationalized and redistributed
    The ultimate goal is to build a society in which “elites” do not exist and cannot appear.
    1. -2
      25 November 2025 10: 52
      Quote from gribanow.c
      The ultimate goal is to build a society in which “elites” do not exist and cannot appear.

      It will be something like this, but not in the way you described.
      1. -1
        25 November 2025 12: 42
        but not in the way you described.

        Perhaps. In my opinion, any democracy without the prefix "social," i.e., without all of the above, is unviable. It will degenerate into either a dictatorship, an oligarchy, or a monarchy, which, under an oligarchy, is essentially a form of oligarchic dictatorship. And if not into any of these, then into chaos and anarchy.
        1. -1
          25 November 2025 13: 18
          Quote from gribanow.c
          any democracy

          It's unsustainable if citizens don't understand their responsibility. They'll eventually shift it to AI, which will be the beginning of the end.
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  19. 0
    25 November 2025 10: 08
    Continues to be relevant.
    It is significant that some, including former communists who keep their diplomas at home, just in case, hate him and his works to the point of impossibility.

    It's characteristic that modern capitalism has long been characterized by "interpenetration" and "mutual investment." When developed Japan, for example, invests in developed America (which also applies to us), and so on.
    1. +1
      26 November 2025 08: 58
      There's one thing. We're not allowed to interact. They didn't sell us an Opel, they robbed us in Cyprus, confiscated our reserves, and slapped us with sanctions...
      1. -1
        26 November 2025 09: 14
        You just don't know this, and neither do I.
        But I accidentally discovered twice that already during the SVO, Norilsk Nickel was suing other Russian corporations... in the "High Court of London"
        Data is surfacing on the internet - and who are the shareholders of Sberbank, VTB, Rusal, Lukoil, etc.... from abroad... still.
        The former Chancellor of Germany was on the board of directors of Rosneft, etc.
        Things may have changed now, but I doubt it's much. There are plenty of tricks.
  20. -1
    25 November 2025 10: 23
    One could endlessly discuss this topic, with its varied interpretations by a host of individuals, each with their own unique perspective. But all this diversity must be substantiated by mathematical principles of scalability distribution of various aspects and correspond to basic physical principles that are transformed into the terminology of social science, history, politics, traditions, and much more. Therefore, in short, everything flows and changes, and the events that have changed the world and people create the conditions for these people to change the world in which they exist. BUT! Humanity does not think in terms of closed and algorithmically linked processes with vast arrays of differently variable, multidirectional, multipotential, yet always oriented data. Therefore, few will understand truths that, for now, must be accepted only by faith.
    1. -5
      25 November 2025 10: 50
      Quote: gridasov
      One can endlessly discuss this topic in its varied perceptions by a mass of individuals, each with their own point of view.

      You're absolutely right; there's no point in discussing something that's already dead and dying. Communism died long ago, capitalism is dying today, and what awaits us isn't particularly encouraging either. But respondents are ready to scream for the past and have absolutely no vision for tomorrow.
      1. -1
        25 November 2025 11: 24
        There is no future without the past.

        Quote: Puncher
        Respondents are ready to tear their throats out for the past and absolutely do not see tomorrow.

        Why is this so? Because those who define our past today shape our future. The biblical concept is dying. Russia is building a new world, where everyone is equal among all equals. Where there are no wild jungles or nurseries of blooming gardens.

        The Old World is a pyramid. The New World is a round table, where there is a place for everyone.
        1. 0
          25 November 2025 12: 15
          I believe you're not entirely correct, and I'll clarify that within the framework of fundamental mathematical principles, equality is possible within the same level of process scalability. Not everyone at the round table possesses the same level of intelligence, the same level of problem solving, the same level of understanding of responsibility, and much more. Lenin was a genius, but his genius was part of a subjective perception, both by him and by those who tried to apply his ideas to life, and those who applied them, often in a distorted form. Enormous aspects of the creation of a new type of public administration, etc., were not taken into account. Everything was built on the bones of experiments, without ideology or understanding of real tasks and goals. That's why the USSR collapsed so suddenly; it was fundamentally an unstable system. At the same time, no one denies its many positive elements. In general, it's worth considering other countries with their unique systems of government, within the context of their status and the diversity of their special conditions, to provide a relative comparison and understand what is being done and why.
          1. +1
            25 November 2025 13: 44
            Quote: gridasov
            I believe that you are not entirely right and I will clarify that within the framework of mathematical fundamental principles, equality is possible among the same level of scalability of processes.


            Don't confuse the concepts of "equality" and "sameness." They are far from synonymous. Of course, people are not identical and differ in abilities and so on. The goal is to create a society in which differences are preserved (rather than everyone being lumped together), but these differences will no longer have the same significance as they once did (the winners in life's struggle get everything, while the rest get nothing).
            True socialism is the one that transforms into the category of “human rights” what under previous isms was and is either a commodity or a privilege of the “chosen ones.”
  21. +3
    25 November 2025 13: 31
    The essence of imperialism is the transition from free capitalist competition to the formation of national monopolies within individual state entities, which account for the lion's share of the national budget, rendering the government dependent on them. The interests of these monopolies can either coincide or conflict.
    Therefore, each monopolistic group sponsors the election campaigns of one political party or another, and the victorious one forms a government that reaps the monopolies' investment by pursuing policies in the interests of the respective monopolistic group. As Karl Marx said, giving the population the right to choose the yoke around its neck—this is the essence of capitalist "democracy."
    At a certain stage of development, the expanded production of monopolies exceeds the purchasing power of the domestic market, and competition on the external market leads to a war for raw materials, sales of goods and services.
    To minimize losses, and perhaps even lose everything as a result of the war, national monopolies are being assimilated through shareholdings and the formation of international monopolistic associations that transcend the national jurisdictions of individual states, shape international law, and create supranational governance and power structures, naturally in their own interests. As a result, the world is effectively being colonized, with capital concentrated in the hands of a small group of individuals, the owners of transnational monopolies who, according to UN Secretary-General Anton Guterres, constitute 1% of the planet's population.
    At the stage of imperialism, contradictions become more acute:
    Between various transnational groups and monopolistic associations, whose governments are fighting for the redistribution of spheres of influence in the world.
    Between the enormous mass of proletarians who create material and other values ​​and the small group of owners of transnational monopolistic associations who appropriate them and profit from them, and for security reasons are forced to fence themselves off from the outside world with numerous guards,
    V.I. Lenin said that the state superstructure of the era of imperialism inevitably turns democracy into a screen behind which the owners of “steamboat newspaper factories” rule with absolute power, and the struggle to preserve everything acquired inevitably leads to the suppression of democracy, giving rise to nationalism, dictatorship and fascism.
    1. +1
      25 November 2025 13: 49
      In the end, it must be said that under capitalism, all demagoguery about equality and multipolarity contradicts the rudiments of common sense and is anti-scientific, but if someone promotes this demagoguery, it means it benefits someone.
    2. 0
      25 November 2025 14: 57
      You have noticed that all conversations are essentially conversations about the measure of the level that people do not observe, going to extremes.
  22. 0
    25 November 2025 13: 39
    Quote from gribanow.c
    In my opinion, any democracy without the prefix "social", i.e. without everything that is indicated above, such a democracy is not viable,


    But does this democracy actually exist anywhere, not as a sham, but as a functioning model on a national scale?
    Most likely not. Democracy is a form of political organization for small communities of people, small societies, comparable to ancient city-states. Democracy can truly function effectively only at the local government and municipal level. At the national level, it serves only as a screen to conceal the real mechanisms of power. Incidentally, the United States doesn't have democracy; it's a republic, as enshrined in the American Constitution. Republic and democracy are different, alternative forms of government. The Yankees copied ancient Rome, but Rome didn't have democracy; it was a republic of estates.
    1. -1
      26 November 2025 10: 05
      Democracy cannot exist where and when billionaires exist, because the two are mutually exclusive. First, we must abolish billionaires as a species, as a class, and then, from scratch, begin building a people's democracy. I emphasize: abolish billionaires, but not the market itself or the market economy itself. And not just abolish billionaires once and for all, but create a system in which new ones cannot emerge. And only then can we begin to build democracy. in an open fieldHas this been done anywhere? I don't think it's been done anywhere yet, so there's nothing to compare it to; there are no historical examples. Where there are billionaires, there will be no democracy.
  23. +1
    25 November 2025 15: 06
    You're right, comrade! Alas, you're forgetting one Russian proverb: no matter how much you feed a wolf, he still looks to the forest... So humans will remain an ungrateful natural phenomenon.
  24. +4
    25 November 2025 15: 28
    Thanks for the scientific article. Does anyone wonder what science it belongs to?
    For those who grew up in the USSR, the answer is simple: philosophy. So why is it published in "Military Review"? There's nowhere else. Philosophy in the Russian Federation is a dead science (there are and will be philosophers, but there is no science). Liberals destroyed it so it wouldn't interfere with the promotion of purely religious views of a market economy (financial literacy!).
    And philosophers aren't given the floor or published—they're supposedly irrelevant. So we live in a "swamp," unable to "get a breath of fresh air" (thanks to the author of the article).
    1. -1
      Today, 01: 39
      So let's build a separate platform! Whose sympathy for philosophy do you want :)? But first: philosophy is not a science. Science is empirical knowledge. It requires moving from the particular to the regular, but a philosopher immediately wants to grab God by the beard :). This (go higher!) is a structuring worldview, which is why the "experiencers" generally don't like it, it's only an acquired taste :). Second: all academic (and teaching :)) philosophy, with all due respect, is nothing but sectarianism and scholasticism. What they did was already demonstrated last time (under the Soviets), and now they are planning again... to completely ruin it. Therefore, a real cultural revolution in philosophy is needed. In fact, no meaningful humanitarian community is possible without it.
      But even "liberal" is a good word from the times of progressive (yes, yes! let it be :)) capitalism, and today's pseudo- or "liberals" let them be, because the structure of their ideas is precisely that...
  25. +2
    25 November 2025 17: 15
    Imperialism itself and its main economic law, the desire for maximum profit, has not been cancelled.
    One of the main consequences of this economic law is war for global domination. One of the imperialist countries—the most militarily powerful—aims to crush its competitors in war. Naturally, this threat unites all the other major competitors, and just as naturally, the contender for global domination itself suffers defeat.
    Germany suffered defeat in this way twice in the 20th century. Now it's the United States' turn.
  26. +2
    25 November 2025 21: 30
    Quote: Glock-17
    Lenin identified the problems of capitalism, but no solution was found.

    My dear, read V.T. Loginov's work "The Testament of Ilyich. Conquer with This." There you will find the answers to your narrow-minded maxim.
  27. 0
    25 November 2025 22: 07
    As they wrote in the Kyrgyz SSR:
    "Lenin - shoo!
    Lenin is a mouse!
    Lenin is a tokhtamysh!
    Well, in short, "Marx's teaching is omnipotent - because it is true!"
    But here is another quote from Vladimir Vladimirovich: “We say - Lenin, we mean - the Party! We say - the Party, we mean - Lenin!”
    And what now? The real leader, about whom one could say that, was Zhirinovsky.
    The other "parties" lack leaders, nor do they have any ideology, goals, or objectives (specific ones, not just random, back-and-forth, wheeled-in hoops). Therefore, they aren't really parties at all, but rather a bureaucratic spectacle ("The State Duma is no place for debate!")
  28. +3
    26 November 2025 00: 35
    Quote: a.shlidt
    So who or what is oppressing you? So, formulate your grievances against capitalism in Russian.
    Specifically, to capitalism, not to criminality. At least with an example. Otherwise, you're just wasting your breath with your words.

    An obvious example. Without other people, without human society, there would be no billionaires. None of these so "gifted" and "initiative" people went to live alone in the forest. There, no one would interfere with their work. Moreover, none of the true scientists, discoverers, inventors, and so on, ever made it as a billionaire.
    A society without billionaires is entirely possible and performs quite well.
  29. log
    +2
    26 November 2025 06: 12
    So that's where we went in the "holy" nineties! We older ones, spoiled by developed socialism, wanted some spice. So what's it like, this wild capitalism?
  30. +1
    26 November 2025 08: 56
    Since we're now supposedly a capitalist country, we shouldn't be stubborn, but rather act in accordance with the doctrine of imperialism. For either you're an imperialist or a victim. But blissful self-dissolution in the global economy is simply not an option. Those who lose out will suffer the same fate as the Bangalore weavers.
    1. 0
      26 November 2025 11: 10
      We're no longer a capitalist country; we've achieved a merger of capitalist and social systems. We're legally achieving a synergistic effect. And they'll simply die.
  31. +1
    26 November 2025 10: 01
    A good, educational article. Especially now, when public consciousness is being manipulated and the human ego is being pushed to the forefront. It's precisely this ego that capitalism plays on, creating consumers devoid of personality. The main thing is money; there is and can be nothing but money, money, money. And that's the whole point of capitalism!
  32. +1
    26 November 2025 11: 07
    The only thing I disagree with is the "sacred private property" concept. Even that, in the modern Western world, is no longer considered sacred. They say it's for simpletons, but they don't really mean it. Otherwise, it all seems well-founded.
  33. +2
    26 November 2025 13: 20
    Quote from gribanow.c
    I emphasize - abolish the billionaires, but not the market itself and not the market economy itself.


    "If money flows freely throughout the country, there are probably those who have a lot of it."
    In fact, any economy in modern times is (and was) a market economy, including the Soviet type of economic system. Was there money in the USSR? Yes. Was financial resources needed to create something? Yes. Now they call it "investments." In the USSR, they called it "capital investment." Once again, CAPITAL investment.

    In general, even the very intention to forcibly abolish something ipso facto implies dictatorship.
    Democracy, in its idealized form, as they try to present it, is impossible in principle, especially in a functioning market economy. Income inequality inevitably leads to political inequality, to inequality of rights and responsibilities.
  34. +2
    26 November 2025 16: 35
    But those who are covering the mausoleum with plywood have either read Lenin, which is fear, or haven't, which is ignorance. It's interesting that those who are shouting from the rooftops about removing Lenin from the mausoleum don't realize that he is recognized as a genius and revered by more than two billion people on Earth.
  35. +2
    27 November 2025 09: 37
    Quote: Evil Eye
    But he still hadn't read Engels. Or he had read him but didn't take him into account. Otherwise, he would have assumed that Germany, at least in theory, could unleash a world war. laughing

    You know, there are some doubts about Lenin's foresight, given that his reckless policies led to enormous problems (to put it mildly). As for tactics—that's true; Ilyich was a master of them. Lenin's most far-sighted achievement was electrification, but that wasn't his alone.

    If you are so far-sighted, then tell us, O Pythia! what awaits our mortal world.
  36. +2
    27 November 2025 09: 38
    Quote: Vasily))
    We're no longer a capitalist country; we've achieved a merger of capitalist and social systems. We're legally achieving a synergistic effect. And they'll simply die.

    What effect exactly? The curtailment of social programs and workers' rights?
  37. +1
    29 November 2025 16: 51
    Conditions have changed, at least in the Russian Federation. "War in the interests of domestic capital, which is constrained by national borders?" – what does that mean? A war with Ukraine in the interests of domestic capital? Selling oil, steel, timber, fuel, and other raw materials to fight Russia in the interests of Russian nationally oriented capital? Modern Russian capital finds national borders too confining for one reason: the dollar and ruble exchange rates. If exchange rates corresponded to incomes, then gasoline in Russia would cost 20 rubles, and everyone would have plenty of meat.
    1. +1
      30 November 2025 18: 15
      I also remember there was a time when the dollar was worth less than the ruble. Then it suddenly started rising rapidly. And how much do things really cost now—a dollar, meat, and gasoline—that would be interesting to know! Even if this honest man had couched his report in the form of a science fiction story. We don't need anything from global capital... Just to know the truth! Well, will someone tell us the prices?
      1. 0
        1 December 2025 09: 41
        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2249425

        I sailed for 15 years on ships engaged in foreign trade in the 1970s and 1980s. I had something to compare it to back then. Over all those years, the ruble to US dollar exchange rate changed little, fluctuating around 0.6 kopecks per US dollar. I was surprised by the high wages of the workers there, given the much lower cost of food and consumer goods there compared to the USSR... But we must not forget that the ruble exchange rate of that time did not affect the people of the USSR. It was intended for foreign trade and a relatively small number of employees of embassies, missions, and visaed sailors... They can be compared conditionally. For example, in 1979, a 50 kg live sheep in New Zealand cost 50 US cents, while in Australia the same sheep cost 25 US cents... In Canada, the cheapest meat was chicken legs, which cost 28 cents per 1 kg. This was in January 1976. Back then, the Canadian and US dollar exchange rates were the same. Women's thigh-high boots cost $1.20-$1.50. In the USSR, that was the height of fashion, costing 200 rubles or more. Levi's jeans cost $8-$10, but in a "poor man's" store, they were the same—$0.50! And so on.
      2. 0
        1 December 2025 20: 41
        I read somewhere about the energy equivalent of currency. Like, calculated in kilowatt-hours. A measurable, natural product. Unlike crypto, the digital ruble...
  38. +1
    30 November 2025 17: 43
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: VasAndr
    So that they don't have to wear bast shoes, they develop industry.

    so as not to wear bast shoes make money, and don't lie about the unimportance of salary


    Dogs bark, as they say. But it wouldn't hurt you to wear bast shoes—closer to nature, doctors say—contact with the soil strengthens blood vessels in the brain, and you'll earn more money.
  39. 0
    30 November 2025 18: 08
    [quote = Olgovich] [/ quote]
    so as not to wear bast shoes make money, and don't lie about the unimportance of salary[/quote]

    There is an expression that dogs bark.
    And about the unimportance of salary --- there really are such people, imagine that they exist!
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  41. 0
    1 December 2025 02: 44
    "1. Concentration of production and the formation of monopolies"
    ///////////////////////////////////////
    The USSR was the pinnacle of political and economic monopolization of the state. Political leadership over the country's three hundred million people belonged to a small group of ideologically bruised individuals in the Politburo. They, "to the best of their ability," managed the economy of this vast state at their own discretion, dictating how much and what the people needed, ranging from the number of condoms to the number of spacecraft.
    1. +1
      1 December 2025 20: 47
      Weak, have you heard of the Gosplan structure? And of state balances? And of the 15% annual growth rate? Well, at least hypersonics is a Soviet legacy. Communist! It's still working 30 years later.
      Not everything is so simple.
      1. -1
        5 December 2025 07: 08
        I remember.
        For some reason, ordered equipment and supplies were scheduled to arrive only two years later. During major repairs in backward Ceylon, supplies were received no later than a week later, and in Japan, the latest, the next day...
  42. 0
    1 December 2025 04: 04
    Russia has been an Empire since the time of Rurik and in 1473 became the heir to the center of the entire world - the new Roman Empire.
  43. 0
    1 December 2025 20: 39
    Truth, spoken, is a lie (C). Is it hard to think beyond Lenin? After all, partly due to the dogmatization of Marxism-Leninism by the elite, people stopped believing in communist ideology. Lenin couldn't weigh the influence of the various aspects of imperialism, couldn't account for the psychology of the party bosses, or the psychology of different strata of the population... That's how the "waiters," the "non-warriors," the frightened patriots, and the "naked partygoers" emerged... Under the conditions of the Soviet Military District.
  44. 0
    4 December 2025 12: 12
    Clearly, it's worthwhile to focus on creating an optimized model of social interactions, rather than relying on emotional choices to determine what's best and what's worst. This is an increasingly complex model, driven by a large number of variable factors. Therefore, mathematical knowledge is essential for understanding how to distribute dynamically evolving processes across various aspects and how to influence them.
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  46. +1
    6 December 2025 10: 19
    Quote: a.shlidt
    So what's going on in China and Vietnam now?

    Well, if it's "human rights," the West screams, "Help, communism." If it's economic success, well, that's "our" capitalism. laughing
  47. +1
    7 December 2025 09: 35
    In discussions of capitalism and communism, the concept of private property is often confused with personal property. Communism generally opposes private property, but has never opposed personal property such as apartments, houses, cars, toothbrushes, or wives (I'm specifically talking about wives because, according to some right-wingers, they are also property 😆). Incidentally, capitalism opposes widespread ownership of valuable real estate, such as condominiums. The best evidence of this is the fact that in non-socialist countries, the percentage of condominiums is significantly lower.
    A good example of how developing socialism contributed to the development of personal property are the garden plots in Poland and the dachas in the USSR, which serve residents to this day.