Sako TRG M10 sniper rifle

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Sako TRG M10 sniper rifle


Most recently, the new Sako TRG M10 sniper rifle was introduced, and the rifle is clearly Finnish, but Beretta is featured in many sources. Is this some kind of mistake, or has Beretta updated weapon, in general, we will not understand this Santa Barbara, and try to get acquainted with the weapon itself, especially since not just one rifle was created, but a whole platform with barrels of different lengths and for various cartridges.
Since the weapon’s characteristics are usually lost in the text, we’ll start not standardly, but with tsiferok. The weapon was developed for three ammunition, namely 7,62x51 (.308 Win), 7,62x63 (.300 Win Mag) and 8,58x70 (.338 LM). According to this ammunition there are trunks of length: 408, 510, 602,656 millimeters; 408, 510, 602,656 millimeters and 408, 510, 602,689 millimeters. The magazine capacity, in the same order for ammunition, is 11, 7 and 8 cartridges. The weight of the weapon and the total length is no accurate data.

By itself, a rifle is a weapon with manual reloading powered from detachable box magazines. Butt folding, mounted on the pistol grip of the weapon at two points. The butt has the ability to adjust its length, as well as the height of the cheek support. Of course, the weapon was not without plastic and light alloys, but visually everything in moderation and everything in its place. The Sako TRG M10 sniper rifle has four seats in the form of picatinny strips, one line at the top, for sighting devices, two short sides and one at the bottom. Folding height-adjustable bipods are mounted on the lower mounting bar, and it is worth noting that the bipod installation site can vary throughout the mounting bar, which in some situations may be convenient, for example, when installing an effective silent shooting device that changes the balance of the weapon. The rifle has no open aiming devices, but they can be easily installed on the upper mounting bar, in a set they, of course, do not. The barrel of the weapon, of course, free-hanging, as is clear from the above written information can be of various lengths, which justifies the possibility of the bipods to move along the attachment bar for more convenient use of the weapon. The rifle magazine is fixed by a button located next to the safety bracket, which on the one hand saves space and shortens the length of the weapon, but is not entirely convenient.

It is difficult to evaluate the rifle, as there are practically no reviews about it. In addition, everything is complicated by the fact that the weapon has not yet attracted attention, despite the fact that it can use the most popular ammunition. If you find fault with the pictures, then personally it seems to me quite flimsy of the butt joint, all the same it’s planned to use not the weakest ammunition in the weapon, and it would not have happened that the butt gets loose after a hundred or so shots. Actually, in addition to this, it seems to be a fault and there is nothing. Taking into account the fact that the weapon was designed on the basis of TRG-42, it is generally doubtful that there may be some problems with it, because in order to spoil the "bolt" you need to have talent.

If we consider the weapon as multi-caliber, then it is necessary to note some not very good moments. In particular, when changing ammunition, it will be necessary to change the store receiver, as I understand it, since it is rather difficult to achieve universality in this matter with different lengths of ammunition and, apparently, the designers did not strive for this. Nothing is known about the method of fastening the barrel of a weapon, which is important in general for a rifle, and not just a multi-caliber base. The ability to use a variety of devices pleases, but this is the norm for modern weapons. In general, I would like to see a larger list of possible ammunition for use, since the one that is available, although good, is very small.

In general, it is too early to draw final conclusions, and indeed any conclusions, since the weapon has not yet manifested itself. Perhaps something in the rifle will still be changed, the list of ammunition will be replenished, or at least the facts about the weapon will be known, and only then it will be possible to make a full review while waiting.

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  1. +2
    6 May 2013 08: 37
    To author +

    In general, the barrel looks modern, plastic, picatini, all things ..
    I, like the author, was embarrassed by the butt, or rather, fixing it to the bed looks somewhat weak.
    Again, there is no stop under the butt, that is, it is not very convenient for "lying". Although we can solve this issue, it is possible that the butt design provides for a stop attachment, it is simply not on the advertising materials.

    Modularity is good, but in the case of a precision barrel, there are doubts about the fastening and rigidity of the structure as a whole, including the barrel mount.

    Multi-caliber is also good, but it seems to me that the military will not be in demand. Firstly, changing calibers will require additional shooting. In addition, changing trunks in a combat environment is not very interesting. Well and most importantly, army snipers are unlikely to be able to vibrate 1 out of 3 rounds, the cartridge will be 1. Perhaps special. units, including army, it is possible to use different cartridges. This is where the multi-caliber can play plus - the soldier fired all the ammunition 338 LM, and the Taliban are all twisted. Changed to caliber 308, got hold of ammunition from Marxman or (at worst) from a machine gunner and let's grumble on.
  2. avt
    0
    6 May 2013 09: 53
    request Well I do not know . Of course, to judge professionals, but somehow I hardly imagine how to wander around the field with different calibers in one bottle. Here are some urban specialists in more or less comfortable conditions in a short one. request But then again - an unprofessional view from the side. +
    1. +1
      6 May 2013 10: 54
      Nobody will dangle. A large range of calibres and barrel lengths only means that the rifle can be delivered from the factory in one of these calibers and with a barrel of a certain length at the request of the customer. Or be re-mastered by the customer himself, respectively, with the replacement of the shutter, store and receiver, in a workshop, and not in the field. In this regard, the Finns did not invent anything new, and maybe this rifle did not attract much attention. Although there is little information, and given the name modular configurable multi calider (if this is not just a marketing ploy), I could be wrong.
      1. 0
        6 May 2013 11: 50
        Quote: neznayka
        A large range of calibres and barrel lengths only means that the rifle can be delivered from the factory in one of these calibers and with a barrel of a certain length according to the customer’s request

        Most likely, either the entire nomenclature will be delivered (a la LEGO constructor), or in the form of a ready-made bolt for the ordered caliber.
        a simple example is the same Erma SR-100 comes immediately with 3 interchangeable barrels (7.62mm NATO (.308Win), .300 Winchester magnum, .338 Lapua (8.6x70mm)) shutters and magazines (The barrel change mechanism is patented and is a an eccentric lock located under the barrel in front of the receiver. The lock is controlled using a special socket wrench by 180 degrees. After unlocking, the barrel is removed from the receiver by moving forward and can be replaced with another. Due to the different dimensions of the cartridges used, installing a barrel of a different caliber, it is also necessary to replace the bolt and magazine. The box magazine clip is made in the form of two buttons on the sides of the rifle box.)
        SR-100 with an extended forend and a long barrel under the cartridge .338 lapua or .300 wm.SR-100 with an extended forend and a long barrel under the cartridge .338 lapua or .300 wm.

        the same applies to DSR-precision DSR-1
        DSR-precision DSR-1 sniper rifle with quick-release silencer.

        DSR-precision DSR-1 sniper rifle disassembled into main components.
        1. +1
          6 May 2013 12: 15
          a simple example is the same Erma SR-100 comes immediately with 3 interchangeable trunks
          Everything can be. In any case, the Finns did not show anything fundamentally new, they simply expanded the product line and entered another market niche.
          Interest parsed me - looked at the official site. So according to the developers:
          1. Trunks change in the field, for this on all trunks there are marks that are tangible to the touch.
          2. To replace the barrel, a wearable tool with a rifle is used.

          3. Replacement of the receiver is not required since stores for different ammunition are unified.
  3. 0
    6 May 2013 10: 38
    Quote: bazilio
    To author +
    Multi-caliber is also good, but it seems to me that the military will not be in demand. Firstly, changing calibers will require additional shooting. In addition, changing trunks in a combat environment is not very interesting. Well and most importantly, army snipers are unlikely to be able to vibrate 1 out of 3 rounds, the cartridge will be 1. Perhaps special. units, including army, it is possible to use different cartridges. This is where the multi-caliber can play plus - the soldier fired all the ammunition 338 LM, and the Taliban are all twisted. Changed to caliber 308, got hold of ammunition from Marxman or (at worst) from a machine gunner and let's grumble on.


    Shops, too, should then be worn for different cartridges? Or invest one by one?
  4. +1
    6 May 2013 11: 28
    The barrel and, accordingly, the caliber of cartridges is determined by the assigned task, you can load the second number on the edge
    1. 0
      6 May 2013 11: 40
      Quote: PSih2097
      The barrel and, accordingly, the caliber of cartridges is determined by the assigned task

      Yes. But there is one thing. How can the tasks of a sniper with a cartridge of 308 wines, 300 wines a magician and 338 LM differ? The tasks as a whole will be the same, so it is probably preferable to take and work with the most powerful and long-range supply of 338 LM. He beats further, and at medium and near distances he will show himself no worse. The only reason why an army sniper may want to abandon 338 LM in favor of 2 other rounds is weight and recoil. But you understand, these indicators do not differ much. According to this, most likely, it was reassigned under another cartridge since the original ammunition was used up. Well, you can still assume that spec. cartridge of 308 wines with subsonic speed, when shooting with PBS gives less noise than subsonic 338 LM
      1. 0
        6 May 2013 11: 54
        Quote: bazilio
        How can the tasks of a sniper with a cartridge of 308 wines, 300 wines a magician and 338 LM differ?

        Well, 308wine on the one hand, and 300winmag and 338lm, on the other, are still different. 308vin cartridge, nevertheless, is not for long-range shooting, it is intended for "close combat". 300vm and 338lm, cartridges are much more powerful, allowing you to hit targets at greater distances, they are both larger and heavier, and shooting with them, as you correctly noted, is less comfortable.
        1. +1
          6 May 2013 12: 08
          Quote: Vladimirets
          308vin cartridge, nevertheless, is not for long-range shooting, it is intended for "close combat"

          Well, do not tell me - with 308 wines, most trunks work confidently up to 800 meters.
          Quote: Vladimirets
          300vm and 338lm, cartridges are much more powerful, allowing you to hit targets at greater distances

          that's it. As for me, if I say an army sniper in Afghanistan, preparing to go on a raid and not knowing exactly the working conditions, I would prefer a more powerful and long-range cartridge, since the range of tasks will be wider.
          1. +2
            6 May 2013 12: 26
            Quote: bazilio
            As for me, if I say an army sniper in Afghanistan, preparing to go on a raid and not knowing exactly the working conditions, I would prefer a more powerful and long-range cartridge, since the range of tasks will be wider.

            Especially in the mountains. wink
          2. +1
            6 May 2013 12: 29
            Quote: bazilio
            Well, do not tell me - with 308 wines, most trunks work confidently up to 800 meters.

            If he was so good, there would be no need to fence a garden in the SVD with 7,62X54.
            1. 0
              6 May 2013 13: 24
              Quote: Vladimirets
              If he was so good, there would be no need to fence a garden in the SVD with 7,62X54.

              I do not quite understand where does the SVD?
              1. 0
                6 May 2013 13: 29
                Quote: bazilio
                I do not quite understand where does the SVD?

                Yes, I mean, that the 308win is our 7,62X51, and if its capacity were enough for an army sniper rifle, then why use a more powerful 7,62X54. 308win is good somewhere in the city.
                1. +1
                  6 May 2013 14: 33
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  Yes, I mean, that the 308win is our 7,62X51, and if its capacity was enough for an army sniper rifle, then why would a more powerful 7,62X54

                  You seem to be confusing something. 308 wines this not ours 7,62x51. 7,62x51 is the metric designation for the cartridge of 308 wines. In the army version, it appeared in the 1950s and was subsequently adopted by the NATO bloc. In Rossiskaya, and then in the Soviet Army, there was only 1 rifle and machine-gun cartridge 7,62x54R. They adopted it in 1891, then modernized them, in 1908.
                  1. 0
                    6 May 2013 19: 21
                    Quote: bazilio
                    308 wines are not our 7,62x51. 7,62x51 is the metric designation for the cartridge of 308 wines.

                    I had in mind our cartridge 7,62x51A. winked wink
                    Quote: bazilio
                    In the army version, he appeared in the 1950s

                    In 52.
                    Quote: bazilio
                    In Rossiskaya, and then in the Soviet army, there was only 1 rifle and machine gun cartridge 7,62x54R.

                    308vin is still not a rifle cartridge, to be precise, but an intermediate, sort of answer to our 7,52x39.
                    1. +1
                      6 May 2013 21: 29
                      Quote: Vladimirets
                      I had in mind our cartridge 7,62x51A.

                      Well, this cartridge can be called experimental.

                      Quote: Vladimirets
                      308vin is still not a rifle cartridge, to be precise, but an intermediate, sort of answer to our 7,52x39.

                      308 wines are definitely not intermediate. What is the difference between an intermediate and a rifle cartridge? in power with all the consequences. if for 7.62x39 mm the muzzle energy is approximately 2000-2100 joules, but for 308 wines it is approximately 3300-3600 joules. For comparison, 7.62x54, depending on the variant of the bullet, has a muzzle energy of approximately 3200-3700 j. And the dimensions of 308 wines are not intermediate
                    2. +2
                      7 May 2013 00: 22
                      Quote: Vladimirets
                      308vin is still not a rifle cartridge, to be precise, but an intermediate, sort of answer to our 7,52x39.

                      The 7.62x51 NATO cartridge, one of the most popular rifle, machine gun and hunting ammunition of the second half of the 20th century, began its history in the 1950s, when, as part of the "light rifle" program for the US Army, a whole line of cartridges was developed under the general T65 index. The main goal in the creation of T65 cartridges was to reproduce the ballistic characteristics of the .30-06 M2 rifle and machine gun cartridge with a significant reduction in the dimensions of the new ammunition. As a result, in 1955, a variant of the T65 cartridge with a 51mm bottle-shaped sleeve was adopted by the US Army and standardized within the NATO bloc. A significant number of army rifles and machine guns have been and are being produced under this cartridge in the world. In the mid-1950s, the American company Winchester released a commercial version of this cartridge under the designation .308 Winchester, and today this cartridge is one of the most popular in the world for hunting and target shooting. Civilian weapons and ammunition in this caliber are produced in almost all parts of the world where there is a weapons or cartridge production.
                      But the intermediate in the states was this one .30 M1 carbine (7.62x33)
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  5. +2
    6 May 2013 11: 47
    based on TGM-42
    what kind of beast is this? Maybe the author meant TRG-42?
    1. +1
      6 May 2013 18: 05
      That's right, thank you, corrected in the article. You write about one thing, think of something else, and at the same time talk about the third ... laughing
  6. -1
    6 May 2013 14: 32
    It’s interesting to change the barrel shutter, etc. when you beat a PC or something cooler
    1. +1
      6 May 2013 15: 29
      Ahah laughing , how are you going to hang out of the shelter with even breathing and the hope of getting somewhere over 800m, under the conditions described by you ??? Think what to write if the sniper has detected one exit for him to run (that is, change his position) since he is standing on ceremony they won’t attach from the tank and the whole business then.
  7. 0
    6 May 2013 15: 31
    If only someone had given such a child prodigy due to poverty.
  8. 0
    6 May 2013 15: 59
    go and buy - hunting sako rifles are now sold in large stores of any caliber. this is hardly much better in execution and with the change of trunks no trouble
  9. 0
    6 May 2013 16: 06
    and on the run to change the trunk is even more interesting! wassat
  10. 0
    6 May 2013 21: 32
    http://www.sako.fi/defencelemodels.php?def_trgm10 http://www.sako.fi/pdf/specs/TRGM10chart.pdf информация с сайта производителя hi
  11. bubble82009
    0
    6 May 2013 23: 23
    Well, what's the point in three trunks? you don’t drag all three trunks in battle. having three different types of ammunition is also expensive. so for police snipers or bandits the toy is good. and alas for the battle ...
    1. +2
      6 May 2013 23: 46
      In general, by the example of one class of weapons, the topic of modularity cannot be opened. The ideal modular system is PP, automatic, manual machine gun and self-loading rifle on the same base. If all this together is in service, then in the production of savings is huge, but it does not happen laughing
    2. 0
      7 May 2013 00: 19
      Quote: bublic82009
      Well, what's the point in three trunks? you don’t drag all three trunks in battle. having three different types of ammunition is also expensive. so for police snipers or bandits the toy is good. and alas for the battle ...

      then for you the best solution is either KhK-417, or SCAR and automatic (shortening and full) and sniper at distances up to 800-1000 meters both chambered for 7,62x51 NATO, say .308 Winchester (.308 WIN)
  12. Larus
    0
    8 May 2013 17: 58
    I presented the following picture: the sniper lies in position, the vinar is as it should be and near it the trunks and receivers are lying, you never know what situation would change quickly))))))))

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