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Crimean echo of the Syrian war

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It is alleged that A. Dzhepparov was a supporter of Hizb ut-Tahrir. The official goal of this organization is to create an Islamic Caliphate in a non-violent way. However, Russian law enforcement officers and their colleagues from the republics of Central Asia have strong doubts about the adherence of Tahrir to non-violent methods. Since 2003, the activities of Hizb ut-Tahrir have been banned in Russia, and several dozen of its adherents have been brought to criminal responsibility on charges of extremism and terrorism. A judicial ban on Hizb ut-Tahrir activities has been imposed in Germany, although the United States refuses to put it on the list of terrorist organizations. They see nothing dangerous in its activities in other Western countries, thanks to which Europe has become the base of Hizb-ut-Tahrir (2) today.


In Ukraine, where this organization operates quite legally, its target audience is precisely the Crimean Tatars. Hizb ut-Tahrir in Ukraine has access to the press, television, holds regular conferences. In Crimea, the noise was raised several times around the activities of the Islamic community "Davet", up to and including trials. The community was accused of being a disguised Hizb ut-Tahrir affiliate trying to penetrate all structures of social and political life. However, Kiev is silent, and "Davet" acts as before.

By flirting with Tahrir, the Ukrainian authorities are trying to use them against the Majlis, which has become a kind of government of the Crimean Tatars, duplicating the functions of the central authorities. In many matters, the Mejlis acts independently, without looking too much at Kiev, and the intentions of the Mejlis to lead the struggle of the Crimean Tatars for the right to have their own state are no secret to anyone. The relationship between the Majlis and Hizb ut-Tahrir is tense, but they both do not hide their hostility towards Russia and are ideological supporters of the Ukrainian nationalists in their confrontation with the Russian movement of the Crimea.

Commenting on the fact of the death of the Crimean Tatar in Syria, the chairman of the Majlis of the Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Dzhemilev declared the inadmissibility of the participation of Ukrainian citizens in military conflicts without the sanction of the state. However, Hizb-ut-Tahrir disputes the monjoly of the Majlis for the right to express the interests of the Crimean Tatar public and does so quite successfully: some of the Crimean Tatars have already shifted from the Majlis to the Tahrir people. The fact that Hizb ut-Tahrir enjoys prestige among the Crimean Tatars is also supported by the holding of a mass picket in support of the pro-Western Syrian opposition (number of participants is about 400) (3) in Simferopol community.

Representatives of Hizb-ut-Tahrir in the Crimea declared that they would not discourage members of the organization from participating in the Syrian war on the side of the rebels (4). Tahrir organizes a speech in many countries under the slogan "Throw off the shackles and come to the aid of defenseless children, women and the elderly," whose existence, they repeat, is threatened by the Assad regime. This slogan itself should be taken as a veiled call to take on weapon (5).

The Kavkaz Center website (6) also reported on the participation of people from the Crimea in the Syrian insurrection as part of the Kataib Muhadzhirin group. Chechen team Abu Umar Shishani commands the grouping. In addition to the Crimean Tatars, under his command, Tatars from the Volga region and representatives of the North Caucasian nations are fighting in Syria ...

The Syrian confrontation involves not only extremist Sunni groups, but also a number of people from Shiite countries. By the way, Hizb-ut-Tahrir calls Muslims to become one family, not sharing with Sunnis and Shiites. However, these peaceful appeals are followed by calls to overthrow Assad and establish a theocratic state in Syria.

The radicalization of Sunni Islam allows the West and its allies to solve a whole bunch of tactical tasks: to narrow the sphere of influence of Iran, to destroy Syrian-Iranian cooperation, to destabilize the situation in Russia and along the perimeter of its borders, to impede full cooperation between Moscow, Damascus and Tehran. The goal of this game is to control the Greater Middle East and the Mediterranean. Pressure on Iran, incitement to the speeches of Russian Muslims, the supply of cannon fodder for the war in Syria, including from the Crimea, are just the means to achieve this goal.
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 16: 14 New
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    In Ukraine, where this organization operates quite legally, the Crimean Tatars are its target audience.

    And who benefits from this in Ukraine?
    Doesn’t Yanukovych realize what such tolerance and flirting with wolves can turn out for Ukraine?
    http://www.hizb.org.ua/ru/multimedia/video/49-action-video/738-piket-hib-ut-tahr


    ir.html


    Thank God that common sense prevails in Russia:

    Organizations Recognized as Terrorist
    based on the decisions of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation

    18. “Islamic Liberation Party” (“Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami”, “Islamic Salvation Party” - an international organization whose activities were recognized as terrorist and banned in the territory of the Russian Federation by a decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation of February 4, 2003 based on representations of the General Prosecutor of the Russian Federation, on the initiative and on the basis of materials of the FSB of Russia.
    http://www.cisatc.org/134/160/208
    1. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak April 27 2013 16: 44 New
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      Quote: GreatRussia
      And who benefits from this in Ukraine?

      I would say not in Ukraine, but the wind is blowing from another place and in the article it is indicated -
      The United States refuses to put it on the list of terrorist organizations. They don’t see anything dangerous in its activities in other Western countries, due to which Europe has today turned into the Hizb-ut-Tahrir base

      Quote: GreatRussia
      Doesn’t Yanukovych realize what such tolerance and flirting with wolves can turn out for Ukraine?

      Yanukovych understands everything perfectly, but he can’t influence it in any way, because he has not decided which way to go, to the west or the east -
      In Ukraine, where this organization operates quite legally, the Crimean Tatars are its target audience. Hizb-ut-Tahrir has access to the press and television in Ukraine and holds regular conferences.

      The goal is simple, at least not to allow Russia to unite and to have leverage in its hands to manipulate it, to tear Ukraine to pieces to the maximum, so that later it would be very difficult to assemble, and this looks like chaos!
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 27 2013 18: 33 New
        +5
        I think that Yanek himself is a pawn in a strange game !!! And the people, as always, are silent .... !!!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 16: 47 New
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      Quote: GreatRussia
      Doesn’t Yanukovych realize what such tolerance and flirting with wolves can turn out for Ukraine?

      If he touches the Tatars in Crimea, then the EU will roll a barrel on him, and he is trying to sit on two chairs. So in the end, Crimea will again have to free us request
      1. Kaa
        Kaa April 27 2013 16: 59 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The EU will roll a barrel on him, and he is trying to sit on two chairs
        And how can he sit, if 48% of the population stubbornly wants to plow into an incomprehensible association with the EU, and 40% - in the CU. And 15% - so finally, remember the stories of their grandfathers about the "good Wehrmacht" and want to join NATO? Get into the president's shoes - how long will he hold out if the decision on the vehicle is unambiguous? So it turns like in a frying pan. Now a lot rests on the beloved half of Ukraine, Yulu - he does not want, the infection, to appear in court, is sick, they say, and in court, it is likely that the financing of the contract murder will be proved, and tax evasion in especially large ones, maybe then the blind will see and they will forget about the EU, or the EU will finally take offense at us, then - only the road to the Customs Union.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 17: 16 New
          +7
          Quote: Kaa
          And how can he sit, if 48% of the population stubbornly wants to plow into an incomprehensible association with the EU, and 40% - in the CU. And 15% - so finally, remember the stories of their grandfathers about the "good Wehrmacht" and want to join NATO?

          Kaa, who's conducting your polls there, not Yatsenyuk for an hour with Klitschko?
          1. family tree
            family tree April 27 2013 17: 43 New
            +2
            Get into the shoes of the president - will he last long if the decision on the CU is unequivocal? That spins like a frying pan
            Oh, fool-ak! He needed to be a spy, it’s possible there for a long time as a double, triple agent, if you know how to encrypt well, and in politics, in plain sight, seven Fridays a week, you can say a corpse, politically essno, they’re the first to be merged
          2. Kaa
            Kaa April 27 2013 17: 47 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            who's doing your polls there
            "According to the results of a survey conducted by the sociological group Rating, 52% of Ukrainians surveyed support Ukraine's accession to the European Union. 34% do not support. Another 14% have not decided. Among the largest supporters of European integration are residents of the West (77%), Center (64%) , North (54%) and East (51%). At the same time, about half of respondents in the South and Donbass do not support the initiative. However, only 41% of respondents support the formation of a single state within Ukraine, Russia and Belarus. 44%. Another 15% were undecided. Sociologists note that if during 2010-2011 the number of supporters of the common state consistently exceeded the number of opponents, then already in 2012 the opposite tendencies are observed. It is interesting that at least a quarter of respondents who support education a single state with Russia and Belarus, while supporting Ukraine's accession to the EU.
            Given such features of the answers, the respondents were asked a direct question. According to respondents, for Ukraine, signing an agreement on a free trade zone with the European Union is more profitable (40%) than joining the Customs Union with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan (37%). 23% - could not decide.
            Over the past year, the number of supporters of the signing of the Free Trade Area Agreement with the European Union has not changed much, but slightly, but the number of those who consider the Customs Union to be more advantageous for the country has increased (from 34 to 37%) .As a result, the West, North and Center of Ukraine more support the Agreement with the European Union. Donbass, South and East - entry into the Customs Union. Also in the East there are relatively more undecided on this issue. Young people, people with higher education traditionally more support the signing of the Free Trade Area Agreement with the European Union, while older ones support the entry into the Customs Union with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. The survey was conducted from September 25 to October 5, 2012. Study audience: Ukrainian population aged 18 and over years and older. Sample collection: 2000 respondents. Research method: personal formalized interview according to the questionnaire (face to face). Error of representativeness of the study (with a probability of 0,95): for values ​​close to 50%, the error is not more than 2,2%, for values ​​close to 30% - not more than 2%, for values ​​close to 10% - not more than 1,3 %, for values ​​close to 5% - no more than 1http: //news.liga.net/news/politics/788648-ukraintsy_protiv_tamozhennogo_soyuza_
            i_edinogo_gosudarstva_s_rossiey.htm
            Similar data - Ukraine's joining the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan is supported by 40% of respondents, 37% spoke out against this. The entry of Ukraine into NATO is supported by 15% of respondents, against - 60%.
            http://www.unian.net/news/546077-v-es-stremitsya-pochti-polovina-ukraintsev-v-ts
            -40-opros.html Next -Most Ukrainians are ready to vote in a referendum for Ukraine's accession to both the European Union and the Customs Union. This is evidenced by a public opinion poll conducted by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation and the Kiev International Institute of Sociology.
            According to the poll, if a referendum on accession to the European Union took place next Sunday, 59% of those who would take part in the vote would vote for accession, against 41%. In case a referendum on Ukraine's accession to The Customs Union, the majority of the population (57,4%) would also vote "for", against - 42,5%.
            If the referendum raised the issue of either joining the EU or the Customs Union, then 52% would vote for the EU, and 48% for the Customs Union .http: //mignews.com.ua/en/articles/134597 .html OTHER POLLS - SAME.
            1. Moon
              Moon April 27 2013 20: 40 New
              +2
              I glanced briefly at the polls conducted by the sociological group Rating and they have everything to choose from in these polls - Ukrainians want the EU, Ukrainians are not attracted to Russia and Belarus, Ukrainians put Bandera in the first place.
              If most Ukrainians recognize Bandera as a hero, then who and in which region were interviewed?

              Foundation for Democratic Initiatives named after Ilk Kucheriv.
              Ilko Kucheriv was one of the founders of the People’s Movement. repeat

              Kiev International Institute of Sociology is a private Ukrainian public analytical company established in 1992. Financing of the activities is carried out mainly through Western capital and grants from the USA, Germany, Switzerland and so on.

              That's the whole price of these polls. Schuster also had a survey yesterday - 70% want the EU.
              You believe?
        2. smile
          smile April 27 2013 17: 35 New
          +5
          Kaa
          So you saddened me ... really, Abanamat, half of Ukraine really loves your prisoner of shamelessness? ...
          No matter how much we swear at Yanukovych, he really just has to dodge in every possible way, trying to save as a single country actually consisting of two irreconcilable antagonistic camps ... moreover, judging by the comments of Ukrainians, his body movements only lead to the fact that both halves will crawl over him society .... attempts to please everyone can only lead to that. that no one likes you ... a bleak situation ..
          And flirting with bearded wolves ALWAYS and for ALL ends badly .... right up to the alienation of territories ...
          Do you have any significant sane politicians there who would be for rapprochement with Russia right up to unification, which could become an alternative to the current leadership?
          1. Kaa
            Kaa April 27 2013 17: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: smile
            Do you have any significant sane politicians there who would be for rapprochement with Russia right up to unification, which could become an alternative to the current leadership?

            NO! THIS IS THE ENTIRE PROBLEM ... for me - it’s a divorce and a girl’s surname ... somewhere like that, along the red lines ...
            1. Hudo
              Hudo April 27 2013 18: 15 New
              +3
              Quote: Kaa

              NO! THIS IS THE ENTIRE PROBLEM ... for me - it’s a divorce and a girl’s surname ... somewhere like that, along the red lines ...


              Between the Vinnitsa region and the Odessa region, a red line is also needed - the painfully ukro-fascist raised his head high in Vinnitsa - Zapukra is nearby.
              1. alex13-61
                alex13-61 April 27 2013 20: 59 New
                +3
                Yes, Vinnytsia somehow does not stick to the south of Ukraine ... As it was with Paustovsky: "... this is Odessa, and not some kind of crushed Vinnytsia ..."
                1. Hudo
                  Hudo April 27 2013 21: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: alex13-61
                  Yes, Vinnytsia somehow does not stick to the south of Ukraine ... As it was with Paustovsky: "... this is Odessa, and not some kind of crushed Vinnytsia ..."

                  The people became obsessed with nezalezhnost, became obsessed. "God, the house is gone ..." (c)
            2. smile
              smile April 27 2013 18: 46 New
              +4
              Kaa
              Longing ... marsh ... it turns out that Ukraine is doomed .... after all, the ritual dances in the Rada, reminiscent of the Polish Sejm of the 16-17th century, can not last forever ... because the fact that the work of the Rada is actually paralyzed causes the Ukrainian economy damage comparable to a small armed conflict ....
            3. Moon
              Moon April 27 2013 20: 42 New
              -1
              How is it not? What about Medvedchuk?
        3. zart_arn
          zart_arn April 27 2013 18: 52 New
          +2
          December 15, 1967, Viktor Yanukovych was first sentenced to 3 years in prison for participating in a robbery under article 141, part 2 of the Criminal Code of the Ukrainian SSR (robbery) as a member of the Pivnovka criminal group.
          On June 8, 1970, Viktor Yanukovych was re-prosecuted for causing moderate bodily harm under Art. 102 of the Criminal Code of the Ukrainian SSR (moderate bodily injury) and sentenced to 2 years in prison.
          How did Ukraine choose such a "professional", or maybe an "assistant professor"? wink
          1. Hudo
            Hudo April 27 2013 19: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: zart_arn
            How did Ukraine choose such a "professional", or maybe an "assistant professor"?



            His vis-à-vis in the presidential election was Julia Bublikonosnaya with her retinue of different-sized Galician Nazi-vysyvanochniki and zapukryanskih adherents of NATO and the EU, and Victor sang songs to the electorate about the alliance with Russia, about Russian as the second state language and other, other other. ..So there wasn’t much choice. Then, as usual, Vitya Yanuk threw his voters and became Yushchenko No. 2.
          2. alex13-61
            alex13-61 April 27 2013 21: 06 New
            +1
            And from whom to choose that? .. Or did you have to choose one with a scythe and eyes running from a lie? ...
          3. Kaa
            Kaa April 27 2013 22: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: zart_arn
            How did Ukraine choose such a "professional", or maybe an "assistant professor"?
            And you never thought, dear, why did the Hero of the USSR, the cosmonaut Beregovoi twice intercede for an unfamiliar convict - and in violation of all the rules - they release them, not just release them, but they also accept them in the Communist Party and nominate them to the chief? Not funny? No one remembers digging into the biography, in such cases? Here the ears stick out either of the Old Square, or of the department that raised Pu and we see the continuation of the play ...
            1. Kaa
              Kaa April 27 2013 22: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: Kaa
              Have you ever thought
              Having passed, you give up, you know more, it will not be difficult for you to explain what exactly, enlighten me, and others about this, maybe you personally knew this character, or worked in law enforcement agencies? I am pleased to read, check out the degree of your awareness, and if it’s just your personal attitude, then think logically first ...
              1. zart_arn
                zart_arn April 28 2013 23: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: Kaa
                Passed by ...

                And as for the minuses and pluses, I think that they need to be personalized, but it turns out that they are farted quietly, and it is not clear why. You, as a moderator, could influence the site administration about this.
                1. Kaa
                  Kaa April 28 2013 23: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: zart_arn
                  You, as a moderator, could influence the site administration
                  Well, firstly, the capabilities of the moderators are not so great, and secondly, the admins and moderators have the function of viewing the voting not for the sake of entertainment, but to maintain a semblance of order, sometimes there are cases when someone is stupidly, without reason, "knocked down" - then measures are taken, sometimes very serious. And now imagine what the site will turn into, if the author knows every voter - grievances and settling of scores will begin. Although I see who is minus against, I usually ask for clarification without naming a nickname. A clever one will understand, another will never. Somewhere like this ...
            2. zart_arn
              zart_arn April 28 2013 22: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: Kaa
              Here the ears stick out either of the Old Square, or of the department that raised Pu

              It wasn’t enough in those years, that’s for sure. And in the CPSU the road would be closed.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS April 27 2013 18: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If he touches the Tatars in Crimea, then the EU will roll a barrel on him, and he is trying to sit on two chairs. So in the end, Crimea will again have to free us

        In addition, he perfectly understands that Ukraine has no political or financial opportunities to pacify the Crimean Tatars. He does not want to solve this problem for later, but when it ripens, it will not seem to both Ukrainians and Tatars ...... the war is pure form. Here then even to the collapse of the country is not far ?!
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 27 2013 18: 42 New
        +3
        Most likely, it will be so !!! But in the archives to find a document on the illegitimacy of the decision to transfer Crimea to Ukraine !!! There are documents surely !!!
        1. Captain Vrungel
          Captain Vrungel April 27 2013 19: 42 New
          +5
          Here is the Decree of Catherine -2 of April 8, 1783, which states the liquidation of the Khanate and in 1784 the Tauride Region was created.
          Stalin promptly removed this malignant tumor in the Crimea.
          In the era of plundered wild capitalism, seizure, and in the struggle for a place at the power trough, the authorities blundered that, quietly, and the Tatars rushed to seize land and strengthen their positions. In view of the fact that the KGB was destroyed to the ground, and the SBU was unprofessional, engaged in a showdown between those fighting for power and under the guise of riveting their business, they were not able to conduct full-fledged development and intelligence-operational work, the Tatars feel very comfortable and make the authorities go to them on concessions. Maybe we need to recall the second Catherine, that there is not any kind of khanate, but there was a Tauride region without any Tatars, there is Crimea, autonomy, but not Tatar.
          1. Kaa
            Kaa April 27 2013 23: 06 New
            0
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            there is Crimea, autonomy, but not Tatar
            The people, there was an agreement on behalf of the RSFSR with the United States on the creation of a Jewish Soviet Socialist Republic in Crimea after the war, for this the peninsula was cleared not only of Tatars, but also Armenians, Greeks who did not cooperate with the Germans, therefore Khrushchev transferred Crimea from the RSFSR to the composition of the Ukrainian SSR, a member of the UN, in order to say with a clear conscience that it cannot transfer from Russia what does not already belong to it. And now, if Crimea is returned to Russia, old documents (including financial ones) will emerge - after all, "manuscripts do not burn." So the status quo suits everyone so far.
          2. Che
            Che 1 May 2013 08: 41 New
            0
            Something is wrong in the Islamic world. world hegemony or something they want, it can end badly. There are historical examples.
      4. Genur
        Genur April 27 2013 22: 41 New
        0
        But in my metric it is written: born in Simferopol. Sometimes nostalgic notes are cast ... Although parents are from Arkhangelsk.
    3. Heccrbq
      Heccrbq April 27 2013 18: 26 New
      +2
      Dear, these are not wolves, but jackals!
    4. Nick
      Nick April 27 2013 19: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: GreatRussia
      Doesn’t Yanukovych realize what such tolerance and flirting with wolves can turn out for Ukraine?

      The personal interests of such characters, as a rule, do not coincide with the interests of society and are placed by them above the public, in violation of the Constitution ...
    5. knn54
      knn54 April 28 2013 11: 56 New
      +1
      GreatRussia: Doesn’t Yanukovych realize what such tolerance and flirting with wolves can turn out for Ukraine?
      It seems that those in power have forgotten the story: when Hitler came to power, among the first prisoners of the concentration camps were those who flirted with the Nazis.
      PS After the events of Odessa, Kadyrov said that there are more Wahhabis in Ukraine than in Chechnya ...
  2. riding
    riding April 27 2013 16: 18 New
    +8
    On the side of the Syrian opposition, either corrupt mercenaries, stubborn radicals, or zombies, in other words, trash from around the world, are fighting.
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel April 27 2013 16: 43 New
      +8
      Oh, how right you are. Shaw, we make politics out of what this Tatar went. He went to pick up fast pennies. And sho do you think that only ideological ones run there. They run after pennies. Ideological go to Mecca. I got a bullet instead of a penny. So in the wrong place, at the wrong time, he stuck. If all ideological people stop paying pennies, they can start to usefully engage in socially useful work.
      1. Kaa
        Kaa April 27 2013 18: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        Shaw, we make politics out of what this Tatar went
        If he were alone ... "There are many young people among the adherents of Islamic fundamentalism in Crimea. Hundreds of young Crimean Tatars are trained in Islamic educational institutions both on the territory of autonomy and abroad. Many religious missionaries come to the Crimea from Islamic countries, Islamic fundamentalist literature is distributed. Therefore, it cannot be ruled out that after some period of time on the peninsula the Wahhabi movement, supported both from Saudi Arabia, and from Chechnya and Uzbekistan, may intensify. Given the formation and weakness of Islamic institutions in Crimea, Wahhabism can quickly gain the upper hand over other areas of Islam.
        But a special danger for Ukraine is the influence of Turkey on the activities of the Tatar population in Crimea. For Turkey, Crimea has always been a region of vital interests and the strengthening of its influence on the peninsula can be considered as one of the priority strategic tasks of the Turkish leadership in its foreign policy activities. According to the Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of Turkey to Ukraine Ajar Germen, “the question of how good relations between Turkey and Ukraine will be is directly related to Crimea.” Without having its own community in Crimea, Turkey works with the Crimean Tatar population as with its diaspora. She not only cares about the Tatar population of the peninsula, but also relies on the Crimean Tatars in pursuing her geopolitical strategy in the Black Sea region. Turkey is the main foreign policy partner of the Mejlis. Their cooperation is carried out in the following main areas:
        representation by Ankara of the interests of the Mejlis in the international arena;
        creation of joint ventures with the participation of Crimean Tatar businessmen,
        humanitarian assistance through the Red Crescent;
        training of Crimean Tatar youth in educational institutions of Turkey;
        material assistance in the field of education and culture;
        cooperation of Muslim religious leaders, assistance in organizing Islamic education, in the construction of mosques and other religious buildings.The conflict situation in Crimea, in which the separatist sentiments of the Tatar population will manifest itself, can be provoked at any time by a number of political and economic factors and develop according to the following main scenarios.
        1. Mass demonstrations of the Crimean population as a result of a serious aggravation of the socio-economic situation.
        2. Inspiration by criminal structures of Crimea of ​​clashes between Russians and Tatars in order to oust the latter from a number of areas of the economy and trade of the peninsula.
        3. Any forceful actions of law enforcement agencies of Ukraine against the Crimean Tatars, which led to human casualties and repression.
        4. Large-scale protests of the Russian population for the separation of Crimea from Ukraine, its independence or accession to Russia, which paralyze the executive and legislative powers of the peninsula.In all four of the mentioned scenarios, indirect interference from outside in the separatist conflict in Crimea by Chechnya, Turkey and other Muslim states is very likely, which will undoubtedly give it a lingering character and Islamic orientation.http: //www.edrus.org/content/view/95/71/
  3. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 27 2013 16: 23 New
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    It is alleged that A. Dzhepparov was a follower of Hizb-ut-Tahrir. The official goal of this organization is to create an Islamic Caliphate.

    Dog canine death. It is a pity that Stalin was so kind-hearted, could save mankind from several hundred thousand dangerous parasites that have neither mind nor conscience.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa April 27 2013 18: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Corsair5912
      It’s a pity that Stalin was so kind-hearted, could save humanity from several hundred thousand dangerous parasites,
      "The first deputy head of the Crimean Tatar Mejlis Refat Chubarov called" Madhouse ". Solemn events in honor of the 400th anniversary of the Royal House of the Romanovs, scheduled in Crimea. the Tatar community of Crimea. Its militants seized thousands of hectares of land on the coast and around the main cities of the peninsula. The leader of the Mejlis, Mustafa Dzhemilev, is an elderly Soviet dissident who has already tried to resign from his heavy chairmanship. Now the organization is led by his successor Refat Chubarov, a deputy of the Kurultay-Rukh faction in the Supreme Council of the Autonomy. The "Tsarist theme" split the ranks of Crimean Muslims. The head of the Foreign Relations Department of the Mejlis Ali Khamzin expressed his position. He is called the Foreign Minister of the illegal Crimean Tatar parliament. - I actually speak positively about the history of tsarist Russia, because today the Crimean Tatars as the indigenous people of Crimea do not even have a tenth of what they had and what they owned during the period of the Russian Empire, - issued Ali Khamzin in the discussion .. It is known that the Muslim horsemen of Tauris heroically fought on Borodino. Their Simferopol and Perekop regiments as part of the ataman Platov’s detachment took part in the battles of Smolensk, Mozhaysk, Maloyaroslavets, Tarutin. Theodosian regiment was chopped up near Kobrin, Pruzhany and Gorodechno. After World War II, from the Tatars who had military distinctions, the Life Guards of the Crimean Tatar squadron was formed, ranked as the Life Guards of the Cossack Regiment. By the highest order, his officers were given the rights of the old Russian guard. And at the beginning of the twentieth century, the southern horsemen served in the Crimean horse Her Majesty the Empress Alexandra Fedorovna regiment. Emperor Nicholas II himself was included in the lists of this regiment. Trying to disrupt the 400th anniversary of the Romanov dynasty, the Dzhamilev-Chubarov team simultaneously spins a large-scale company to perpetuate the memory of the Red Army deserter, Obersturmfuhrer of the Crimea combat group of the East Turkic SS unit Jengiz Dugji. Thus, the budget weekly Golos Kryma weekly, which is under the control of the Mejlis, with reference to the Turkish news agency QHA operating in Crimea, reported that Daggi’s personal belongings were brought to the peninsula. These relics are planned to be used to create a museum of the Nazi accomplice. The rally was held by the Consulate General of the Republic of Turkey. The creation of the “Cengiz Museum” is the next stage after two years ago a demonstrative reburial of this lieutenant of the Turkestan Legion took place in Bakhchisarai, then SS-Waffengruppe Krim Obersturmführer. Ankara, then - to Simferopol. Representatives of the Council of Ministers of Autonomy and the Permanent Mission of the President of Ukraine in Crimea were invited to the event fraudulently. And quite knowingly, Turkish ministers arrived.
  4. My address
    My address April 27 2013 16: 26 New
    +8
    Crimea or Turkish or Russian. Ukraine, he briefly got a freebie. Logically, he is Russian.
    Interesting education Ukraine! Well, what else is so filthy to form it.
    Well, it is necessary so much that, even according to American data, one person in Ukraine produces one and a half to two times less than in Belarus. But to blame. And if they completely become beggars, they will call me, I am a Nazi snout, ami.
    1. My address
      My address April 27 2013 16: 44 New
      +1
      The fix does not work, I write separately.
      Ukrainians, even Easterners, who were new Russians (Russians brought under Catherine II), were brought up against us in such a way that they (or, I am a Nazi snout, s) are accused of everything, even in poor harvest. .
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 April 27 2013 22: 39 New
        +4
        No one brought Novorossovs (Russians) to Ukraine. They always lived there. These were Russian lands.
        And in general, Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are one people.
  5. krokodil25
    krokodil25 April 27 2013 16: 29 New
    +9
    Why doesn’t anyone see that Islamization is not taking place separately of any country but of the whole world, how to resist it, no one knows here the question of who has a nuclear h ... is longer no longer !!! Agree, this is the problem of the entire civilized world !!!
    1. dark_65
      dark_65 April 27 2013 16: 47 New
      +5
      They see everyone who is ready to react, who has no power, who does not want anything, those in power that are nervous, we live in the war, the time will come, we will slaughter ... or build pig farms nearby (in places of mass crescent)
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 16: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: krokodil25
      Why doesn’t anyone see that Islamization is not taking place separately of any country but of the whole world, how doesn’t anyone know how to resist it

      With regards to the United States, they do not fight, but rather support the Islamists. As for us, there is only one cure ....
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 April 27 2013 18: 01 New
        +4
        Duck, let all this shit get fucked up, give a command from the top, pick up the people, there will be everyone who disagrees with this, because we are limited only by the laws of the film, it was WHO IF NOT WE !!!
    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. April 27 2013 20: 30 New
      +3
      Why doesn’t anyone see that Islamization is not taking place separately of any country but of the whole world, how to resist it, no one knows here the question of who has a nuclear h ... is longer no longer !!! Agree, this is the problem of the entire civilized world !!!


      It is not Islamization that is happening, but globalization, Islam is just a tool in the struggle against the world's population and the stakes in this game are freedom of thought. Another equally powerful tool is computerization and total electronic control. This is the main goal. The sexual revolution, control over resources, the theory of controlled chaos, the media, a program to reduce the population, religions of the world (through establishing control over them) and much more are tools to achieve it.
  6. Larus
    Larus April 27 2013 16: 31 New
    +8
    How many Russians were cut by these Crimean Tatars during the Second World War, they are silent about this, but everyone is yelling about the "unfair resettlement", and the authorities will end up playing with them to the point that they will finally get stronger and send them far away.
    1. smile
      smile April 27 2013 17: 42 New
      +9
      Larus
      I somehow ran into a report on weapons seized from these innocent lambs and went nuts - about 70 rifles and machine guns, about 000 artillery pieces, mortars, etc. ..... they have already grown stronger and are already sending, with the active support Turkey, by the way. Where everything goes is obvious.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 27 2013 18: 25 New
        +6
        Quote: smile
        I somehow ran into a report on a weapon seized from these innocent lambs and went nuts -

        So here we are ... fucking! And every time we thank Hunchback together with his little wife and "restoration of historical justice" am
        And these "victims" will support everyone who is against the Russians.
      2. Kaa
        Kaa April 27 2013 18: 30 New
        +7
        Quote: smile
        I somehow ran into a report on a weapon seized from these innocent lamb
        "After the outbreak of the Great Patriotic War, many Crimean Tatars were drafted into the Red Army. However, their service was short-lived. As soon as the front approached the Crimea, desertion and surrender among them became widespread. It became obvious that the Crimean Tatars were waiting for the arrival of the German army and The Germans, taking advantage of the current situation, scattered leaflets from the planes promising to “finally resolve the issue of their independence” - of course, in the form of a protectorate within the German Empire. Among the Tatars who surrendered in Ukraine and other fronts As a result, units of the Red Army, staffed with Crimean Tatars, turned out to be incapable of combat and after the Germans entered the peninsula, the overwhelming majority of their personnel deserted. Memorandum of the Deputy Commissar of State Security of the USSR B.Z. Kobulov and Deputy People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR I.A. Serov addressed to L.P. Beria, dated April 22, 1944:
        "...All those drafted into the Red Army amounted to 90 thousand people, including 20 thousand Crimean Tatars ... 20 thousand Crimean Tatars deserted in 1941 from the 51st Army when it retreated from the Crimea ... ”And here is an eloquent testimony German Field Marshal Erich von Manstein: “... the majority of the Tatar population of Crimea was very friendly towards us. We even managed to form armed self-defense companies from the Tatars, whose task was to protect their villages from attacks by partisans hiding in the mountains of Yaila. The reason that a powerful partisan movement started in Crimea from the very beginning, which caused us a lot of trouble, was because there were still many Russians among the Crimean population, in addition to the Tatars and other small national groups. ”
        “The Tatars immediately sided with us. They saw in us their liberators from the Bolshevik yoke, especially since we respected their religious customs. A Tatar deputation arrived, bringing fruit and beautiful handmade fabrics for the liberator of the Tatars “Adolf Effendi” »What was the fate of the Crimean Tatars who entered the service of Hitler Effendi? Bases of auxiliary police were deployed based on self-defense companies. By November 1942, eight Crimean Tatar battalions were formed, bearing numbers from the 147th to the 154th, in the spring and summer of 1943 - two more (155th and 156th) [38].In April-May 1944, the Crimean Tatar battalions fought against the Soviet troops liberating Crimea. So, on April 13, in the area of ​​the Islam-Terek station in the east of the Crimean peninsula, three Crimean Tatar battalions (apparently the 11th, 148st and 151rd) were operating against parts of the 153th Guards Corps, having lost 800 prisoners only . The 149th battalion fought stubbornly in the battles for Bakhchisarai
        The remains of the Crimean Tatar battalions were evacuated by sea. In July 1944, in Hungary, the SS Tatar mountain ranger regiment was formed from them, which was soon deployed to the 1st Tatar SS mountain ranger brigade of up to 2500 men under the command of SS Standartenfuhrer V. Fortenbach . The NKVD and the NKGB bodies are carrying out work in Crimea to identify and seize enemy agents, traitors to the motherland, accomplices of the Nazi occupiers and other anti-Soviet elements. As of May 7, this year. 5381 people were arrested.The weapons of 5395 rifles, 337 machine guns, 250 machine guns, 31 mortar and a large number of grenades and rifle cartridges illegally stored by the population are seized ...http://www.ua-pravda.com/old/articles/interes/1670.php
        1. smile
          smile April 27 2013 18: 42 New
          +1
          Kaa
          Thanks for the details .... the hint is clear! :))) I could get confused with the numbers, after all, memory is not always reliable, but I remember the mention of the column "artillery pieces" clearly ... you don't have them, the number of small arms was also much larger - six thousand barrels from me would not be impressed ... so what can you not quite complete information? Although I am certainly not going to argue about this ... :))))
          1. Kaa
            Kaa April 27 2013 22: 11 New
            +2
            Quote: smile
            the number of small arms was also much larger

            This is only for May 7th. And here's another: "The deportation operation began early in the morning on May 18, 1944 and ended at 16:00 on May 20. To carry it out, the NKVD troops in the amount of more than 32 thousand people were involved. The deportees were given from several minutes to half an hour to collect, after which they they were transported by lorries to railway stations, and from there trains with escorts were sent to the places of exile.
            193 people were evicted. Of these, 865 151 were sent to Uzbekistan, 136 to Kazakhstan, and the rest to various regions of the RSFSR. During the eviction operation, the following were seized: mortars - 49, machine guns - 622, machine guns - 724, rifles - 9888 and ammunition - 326887http://www.opoccuu.com/vyselenie-krymskih-tatar.htm.Просуммируйте, и можно вооружать дивизию.
            1. smile
              smile April 27 2013 22: 21 New
              +2
              Kaa
              Thank you. A very informative and very convincing illustration of the peacefulness of the unfortunate victims of bad Stalinism. How much blood would have to be shed there - including them, if not for the eviction ....
        2. Che
          Che 1 May 2013 08: 52 New
          0
          Kaa, and Musa Jalil, the hero of the Second World War - by the way, a Tatar. He died for our common homeland.
      3. Larus
        Larus April 27 2013 18: 54 New
        +7
        And I somehow ran into our memories of their "innocence", fucking what they did to the Russians. And now they are artificially multiplied there, while surviving Russianness from our citizens.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok April 27 2013 19: 13 New
      -3
      And was that?
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop April 27 2013 20: 16 New
        +9
        Quote: zvereok
        And was that?
        The village of Krasnoe (now a suburb of Simferopol towards the airport). During the occupation, a concentration camp was located there. There were 4 Germans for the entire repressive and administrative apparatus of the camp. All the rest are Tatars ...
        1. zvereok
          zvereok April 28 2013 08: 18 New
          +1
          I did not have this information, thanks.
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop April 29 2013 13: 49 New
            +1
            Not at all. There is even a small museum there now. Tatars tried to destroy by self-capture, but ... so far it’s not working ...
  7. Garrin
    Garrin April 27 2013 16: 37 New
    +9

    Flirting with the Tahrir people, the Ukrainian authorities are trying to use them against the Mejlis, which has become a kind of government of the Crimean Tatars, duplicating the functions of the central authorities.

    The Ukrainian authorities are well aware that Crimea never belonged,
    does not and will not belong to Ukraine. Therefore, using the temporary mess, they are trying to plant a "time bomb" for Russia. Which once again shows the attitude of the current Ukrainian authorities to Russia.
    1. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak April 27 2013 17: 12 New
      10
      Quote: Garrin
      Therefore, using the temporary mess, they are trying to plant a "time bomb" for Russia.

      Khrushchev laid this mine a long time ago, but no one can still find an experienced sapper to put an end to all these disputes over the Crimea!
      1. DPN
        DPN April 27 2013 21: 24 New
        +2
        And it will not be found until Ukraine is divided into western and eastern, it is not so bad for them. Anyway, half of Ukrainians in Russia work and almost the whole stage.
  8. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia April 27 2013 16: 38 New
    +4
    You should decide on the question. Either Yanukovych is so weak before the "westernism", or he deliberately continues Yushchenko's policy:


    Ukrainian nationalist parties see their allies as Islamic extremists. Viktor Yushchenko called the Crimean Tatars "the most real Ukrainians." These words were addressed, first of all, to the anti-Russian-minded wing of the Crimean Tatar movement. The fighters of the most irreconcilable Ukrainian nationalist organization, UNA-UNSO, composed the anthem “My nation is my Islam”, where there are also such lines: “My nation is my Islam! Honor to Ukraine! Death to the enemies!" According to one of the leaders of the nationalist party “People’s Ruh of Ukraine” Gennady Udovenko, there are now about 1,5 million Muslims in the country. G. Udovenko can exaggerate, but the number of Crimean Tatars - the only traditionally Muslim people living within the borders of Ukraine - does not exceed 300 thousand. The rest are representatives of the Muslim diaspora from other states and converts (the latter often give preference to extreme, extremist movements in Islam). At the same time, the diaspora of foreign Muslims in Ukraine is numerically small, the majority of Muslims are Ukrainians and Russians converted to Islam.

    http://www.islamsng.com/ukr/news/2608
    1. Larus
      Larus April 27 2013 16: 46 New
      +2
      No wonder, they do not live in the western regions, but where the Russians have not yet forgotten and have not sold their ancestors for 30 coins and a change of "nation". So they are happy, if only the Russians did badly.
    2. Hudo
      Hudo April 27 2013 16: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: GreatRussia
      You should decide on the question. Either Yanukovych is so weak in front of the "westernism", or deliberately continues Yushchenko's policy



      Not only continues, but he has made significant progress in this matter, condoning all Russophobic sheluponi.
    3. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak April 27 2013 17: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: GreatRussia
      Either Yanukovych is so weak in front of the "westernism", or deliberately continues Yushchenko's policy

      The policy in Ukraine is determined from the US State Department, so it turns out as in that rule - "the sum does not change from the change of places of the terms"!
  9. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 27 2013 16: 47 New
    +7
    The laws of Ukraine, the participation of citizens in international armed conflicts is prohibited! But apparently, this is just a declaration, since there is no real control and opposition.

    The content of the next article is interesting.

    The echoes of the Syrian conflict, which went into armed confrontation in the 2011 year, have come to the Crimea. The assumptions that young guys from the Crimean Tatars are participating in the civil war, unfortunately, were confirmed by the sad news from Syria about the death of 20-year-old Abdulla Dzhepparov. The Today reporter talked with his friend and found out the details of the tragedy.
    “We walked together, had fun, like ordinary youth. And then Abdullah went into religion with his head - about two years ago, when he began to talk with religious guys from the Hizb ut-Tahrir party, ”Murtaza, a friend of the deceased guy, told us. - Initially, they taught religious sciences, then they switched to physical training. They rode somewhere in nature and worked there secretly. What they did there is unknown. In late summer - early fall of last year, he left Crimea for Turkey to earn money. And two weeks ago a telegram came to his parents that he was dead. The telegram says - he was blown up by a mine in Syria. Their family is normal: a caring mother, a hard-working father, a brother. Together with Abdullah, six people left Belogorsky District in this way, which I don’t know with them now. One bearded man often came to him, they talked a lot, somehow went to paintball. There were four such recruiters in our area. ”


    It was not the general content that surprised me, but the phrase itself - a sad fact! Ukraine is not in a condition to force its citizen to get bread by participating in armed conflicts, therefore, to declare that for us (citizens of Ukraine) this is a sad fact - nonsense. To mercenaries and radicals, one road is death!

    The radicalization of part of the Crimean Tatars will only aggravate the situation in Crimea, which sooner or later will lead to an open confrontation with the authorities, the Russian-speaking population, and in the future, more dramatic events are possible. Then the question will arise, about the protection of Russians in the Crimea - and probably rightly so. Who then will the Ukrainian authorities blame and what?
  10. My address
    My address April 27 2013 16: 52 New
    -1
    Ukraine freebie education.
    And taking into account the GDP on the face of the face is half as large as that of the Belarusians, it is also bad.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 27 2013 17: 22 New
      +7
      Quote: My address
      And taking into account the GDP on the face of the face is half as large as that of the Belarusians, it is also bad.

      But-but-but-but! We are independent .... From common sense) laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 27 2013 17: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        But-but-but-but! We are independent .... From common sense)

        Elena, what is common sense versus independence laughing
    2. smile
      smile April 27 2013 17: 47 New
      0
      My address
      You can’t say that. Otherwise, you risk hearing reciprocal abuse. This is offensive to normal Ukrainians. You can’t build good relations by pouring water around your neighbor ... And if they messed up a mess there with all possible support, you know who you are, there is no need to gloat-sympathize.
  11. Alexan
    Alexan April 27 2013 17: 32 New
    +2
    For Kiev, Tatars in Crimea are primarily an electorate. So they are flirting. Muslims are squabbling among their factions for funding from abroad. Some of them do not recognize Dzhamilyov because of his real estate in Cyprus and pursuit of selfish interests. But the next congress (kurultai) decides who to vote for, what to demand from the authorities. The influence of the Tatars in Crimea is increasing more and more. Medicine is becoming more expensive every year (the dominance of nurses and doctors of this nationality) Even in Livadia, a finished bronze monument to the "Great Trinity" was not erected because of the indignation of the Tatars. To counterbalance them, the authorities turn a blind eye to the Cossack movement, even a pro-Russian one, in Crimea.
    1. Moon
      Moon April 27 2013 20: 50 New
      0
      http://video.mail.ru/mail/agimas08/267/2962.html

      On July 3, an event occurred that stirred up the whole Orthodox Crimea. Members of the Cossack communities of Crimea and participants in the religious procession who participated in the installation of the Orthodox cross at the site of the death of Soviet soldiers of the 51st army who died during World War II were brutally beaten.

      The whole truth about the radical Tatars hidden by Kiev. Mejlis took the Donetsk by the throat

      To appease Islamic extremists, the Ukrainian authorities arranged a 'bloodbath' for the Crimean Cossacks
      http://www.litostrovok.ru/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=170
  12. pensioner
    pensioner April 27 2013 18: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Kaa
    It is interesting that at least a quarter of respondents who support the formation of a single state with Russia and Belarus also support Ukraine’s accession to the EU.

    Some kind of multi-vector in the heads. So you can provoke a split personality. And this is a schiz.
  13. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH April 27 2013 18: 29 New
    +4
    The Tatars can follow the path of the Albanians, and then all the dermocratic countries will later declare them fighters for independence or something like that, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, history does not teach anything, and Crimea is our Russian land.
    1. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd April 27 2013 18: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: HAIFISCH
      and Crimea is our Russian land.

      Yeltsin's Crimea swelled in 1991, what happened during a drunkenness in Belovezhskaya Pushcha is unknown, maybe, having "got drunk", he lost the Crimea to the kravchuk?
      1. Larus
        Larus April 27 2013 18: 50 New
        +2
        Actually, this is a state coup and he will be given an appropriate assessment.
    2. smile
      smile April 27 2013 18: 49 New
      +3
      HAIFISCH
      A fair thought ... while everything really goes towards turning Crimea into Kosovo ...
      1. builder74
        builder74 April 27 2013 19: 54 New
        +3
        I support you. Unfortunately, not only Crimea: today I read about the situation in the Stavropol Territory - about the same picture.
        1. smile
          smile April 27 2013 20: 31 New
          +1
          builder74
          Indeed, something we got carried away - we are discussing Ukraine, but what’s going on at the house itself ....
  14. UFO
    UFO April 27 2013 19: 07 New
    +3
    By the way, the topic of the Crimean Tatars in the near future will show who is xy in Ukraine, who will solve the problem of this hemorrhoids. Wait, I think, before the end of (any) war in Syria. wink
  15. Centaurus
    Centaurus April 27 2013 19: 22 New
    0
    Crimeans are very stupid to do if they try to separate. Firstly they won’t be given.
    And secondly, of the same Turkey, in which they so stubbornly see their mastermind and savior, in my opinion they are not needed in FIG. But as a territory for naval bases ... ahem, some, we will not point fingers, in my opinion they are very relevant.

    As for the participation of the Tatars in the Syrian war ... maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me akin to saying, say ... they went to fight for the independence of the Muslim brothers in France or Germany (although there again, their fig with two who let it go). fool
  16. Steering wheel
    Steering wheel April 27 2013 19: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Kaa
    NO! THIS IS THE ENTIRE PROBLEM ... for me - it’s a divorce and a girl’s surname ... somewhere like that, along the red lines ...
    The main reason for the non-union of Russia and Ukraine in Russia itself, while you have a Jewish oligarchy under the leadership of a Jew Medvedev (Mendel), is that all attempts at reunification are ostentatious. In Ukraine, Jews, led by Kolomoisky, in addition to the nationalist card (Ukrainian nationalism is the main Jewish means of raising capital from the post of the Soviet elite, and nationalists themselves do not own capital in their own country and run around in huts at the Jewish congress) play the Tatar card because Jews from Crimea they didn’t refuse and they didn’t compare with the cookie of Stalin to the Rhodschilds on the Crimean issue.
  17. albai
    albai April 27 2013 20: 12 New
    -5
    Hello forum users! Why are you so worried about the future of Crimea? At least Krymchaks do not climb into Russia, they live in their villages (on their ancestral lands), dig in irrigation ditches. They don’t go to others, they just want to be autonomous. If Ukraine does not want, they will not go under Russia. Unclear.
    1. UFO
      UFO April 27 2013 20: 29 New
      +2
      But they climb into Syria, carry out the propaganda of Hizb-ut-Tahrir, and when they will return from Syria, tell me, where will they "climb"? what
      1. albai
        albai April 27 2013 20: 58 New
        -5
        Likely to the Volga? Ural, Siberia? Mysterious ways gentlemen .....
        that is, Allah.
  18. porevith
    porevith April 27 2013 20: 27 New
    -5
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    If he touches the Tatars in Crimea, then the EU will roll a barrel on him, and he is trying to sit on two chairs. So in the end, Crimea will again have to free us

    In addition, he perfectly understands that Ukraine has no political or financial opportunities to pacify the Crimean Tatars. He does not want to solve this problem for later, but when it ripens, it will not seem to both Ukrainians and Tatars ...... the war is pure form. Here then even to the collapse of the country is not far ?!

    And who to pacify that ??? I’m living in Crimea, everything is peaceful and quiet, you would at least come and see for yourself how to blurt out anything. By the way, the article says that there are Volga Tatars noticed and that you are also going to fight with them ??????? By the way, when are you going to pacify them ???? laughing
    1. Shturmovik
      Shturmovik April 27 2013 21: 40 New
      +2
      I agree with "porevith" every year I visit my parents in Crimea, and somehow I did not particularly notice any special problems in the relationship between Russian Tatars and Ukrainians living in Crimea. The water is muddied mainly by arriving Ukrainian nationalists and the local population does not really listen
  19. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer April 27 2013 21: 15 New
    +2
    Stop inflating ridiculous problems before the holiday season. Nor are there any problems with Islam in the Crimea and never have been.
  20. NAPOLEON
    NAPOLEON April 27 2013 21: 23 New
    +2
    the situation in Crimea will only worsen. It is obvious to everyone that the Tatars will demand independence as soon as their number reaches a significant number, for example, Kosovo. For Russia, an additional headache. The most interesting thing is that you can’t stop this much natural process.
    1. воронов
      воронов April 27 2013 23: 08 New
      0
      Quote: NAPOLEON
      Tatars will demand independence

      Crimean Tatars "voluntarily" can be resettled to eastern Siberia, closer to the Arctic Circle and create an autonomous region for them, let them develop laughing
      1. NAPOLEON
        NAPOLEON April 28 2013 01: 52 New
        0
        and our Kazan is also in the Arctic Circle. It’s clear that sooner or later our national process will begin to determine the issue only as in European or in the Caucasus. Even if Scotland is quite possible it will be independent. Belarus Ukraine and Russia can not live together what to say about other peoples of the Russian Federation.
  21. Opera
    Opera April 27 2013 21: 30 New
    +6
    I want to add one thing - the main income item for Crimean residents is tourism. For some time the Tatars understood this. In general, outwardly, everything is really calm. Any aggravation of interethnic relations will immediately entail an outflow of tourists, and therefore money. People half a year live on what they earned in the season. It’s hard to find work. Salaries are small. Everyone is waiting for May and getting ready as they can. For peace on the peninsula will be held by all normal people to the last, regardless of nationality. Do not forget that many Crimeans and Tatars are no exception to go to work in Russia. Therefore, I would not say that among them anti-Russian sentiments are so strong.
    Most tourists are Russians, Belarusians ... In the summer in Sudak, Yalta, Yevpatoriya, Feodosiya ... full of cars with St. Petersburg, Moscow, Russian and Belarusian numbers in general! Many (middle class, there are naturally richer) Russians and Belarusians have their real estate in Crimea - apartments, houses, summer cottages.
    It is interesting how the New Year is celebrated - twice, according to Moscow and local time! This is a must see!
    The local population overwhelmingly says about their present situation - they gave us! In general, we are very patriotic towards Russia! In addition, there is still such a city as Sevastopol!
    In general, Russia has very good positions in the Crimea. However, this is not the case when you can roam on their laurels. This position must be effectively used.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 27 2013 21: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Oper
      All normal people will hold onto peace on the peninsula to the last, regardless of nationality


      Are not normal people everywhere, regardless of their nationality, to the last hold on to peace? Only the example of Syria suggests that these very normal people can just forget to ask about their opinion.
    2. alex13-61
      alex13-61 April 27 2013 21: 52 New
      +3
      I consider one of the main factors of stability in the Crimea - the Russian Black Sea Fleet based ..
  22. Opera
    Opera April 27 2013 22: 06 New
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    Quote: alex13-61
    Only the example of Syria suggests that these very normal people can just forget to ask about their opinion.

    I wrote that Russia has very good positions in the Crimea and the support of the people — it’s a sin not to notice this!
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 28 2013 03: 59 New
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    Apparently it's time to destroy Ukraine. For too complex "brew" there now. Have you all read "The Age of the Stillborn"? How many years before the events in the book in your opinion?
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 28 2013 07: 26 New
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      Read, and recommended to friends to read. I think that time is left until 2015. Elections of the so-called President will finish the non-state. Yanuk KAneshnA will win the election, but only due to the fact that when counting the votes it will get nasty - and this is a Pyrrhic victory. Ukro-fascists already don’t feel the ground under their feet, and when the authorities indulge by 2015, they will finally blow the roof off of impunity.
  24. antidote
    antidote April 28 2013 09: 12 New
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    Recall the story. The Tatar (the Mongols did not smell something there) yoke began in 1234. Since then, the struggle with various Hordes until the mid-19th century. The Crimean horde has stolen several millions of our compatriots into slavery during this time. The Russian army under Catherine eliminated the source of infection, conquering the Crimea. Since then, until 1941 it was quiet. IV Stalin did a great job, settling the Crimean Tatars in Central Asia. Khrushchev, And later ebn, planted a bomb, giving Crimea to Ukraine. Now there is a period of radicalization of the Tatar population of the peninsula. Obviously, in the future the issue will become more acute, and the question of the annexation of Crimea to Russia will probably arise.
  25. Opera
    Opera April 28 2013 09: 33 New
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    Quote: antidot
    Now there is a period of radicalization of the Tatar population of the peninsula. Obviously in the future the issue will become more acute,

    Perhaps if stopping external and internal factors do not work. Mr. Dzhemilev is a rather odious person. However, as I see it among the Tatars, there is no absolute unity. In addition, there are such Crimean communities as Greek and Armenian, which for a number of reasons, the constant exaggeration of the Tatar theme is annoying. I do not know that the Greeks, for example, receive some kind of state support. And there is also the German community.
    Russian Black Sea Fleet is a really powerful factor in the region.
  26. individual
    individual April 28 2013 11: 35 New
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    Turkey is actively intervening in the geopolitical confrontation between Russia and Ukraine on the territory of Crimea. The pointing finger of the Turkish Hizb-ut-Tahrir is the main driving force in the opposition and radicalization of the Crimean Tatars. Without this support, their small diaspora would not have had any weight in the life and politics of the peninsula. The cry of the 85s of the last century to the Tatars about resettlement from exile to the territory of Crimea and financing of their activities was not stopped by the KGB - busy with restructuring and publicity to please various political crooks both in the country and abroad. And now this radical Islamic movement has taken root in Tatarstan, Bashkiria, the Volga region, and has spread to the diasporas of Europe, where only Germany is struggling with them with varying success. Remove Turkey's hand in Crimea as well, and the intensity of problems will decrease significantly. To remove the influence of Turkey, it is necessary to create problems on its territory in the face of unresolved problems with the self-determination of the Kurds.
  27. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 28 2013 13: 11 New
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    The only solution to this problem is to return Crimea to Russia. And from Tatarstan to make an ordinary region of Russia, removing the president and all the signs of the state in the state. But this requires political will, and our authorities only embrace the authorities of Ukraine and Tatarstan. Yes, and it’s time to put Turkey in its place for a long time, it also stirs up water in the Crimea quite well.
    1. Che
      Che 1 May 2013 09: 05 New
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      +++ It's time to deal with this problem, and not let it drift, maybe it will resolve. It’s necessary to work and not to hammer in grandmas.