London plans to build up to 16 submarines for AUKUS in 15-20 years.

Britain has set its sights on a long-term naval construction project on the scale of an entire generation: the plan is to build four nuclear-powered Dreadnoughts with ballistic missiles. rockets and up to twelve attack boats for the AUKUS alliance. Term: fifteen to twenty years.

If it works out, like this fleet The Dreadnought will serve for 30 to 45 years—at least, that's the stated service life. Therefore, the UK and the US are planning to build several submarines for Australia, which, along with these countries, is part of the AUKUS alliance.

Barrow-in-Furness will once again become the center of construction. The town, once a bustling hub of shipyard activity, is preparing to come alive again. The shipyards are awaiting a major upgrade, and with it, thousands of workers: engineers, welders, IT specialists, shipbuilders. They won't just be looking for people – they'll have to literally bring the profession back to the region and invest in infrastructure for the new arrivals.

But why such a massive construction project? The British want to replace the aging Vanguard class, so their "nuclear umbrella" doesn't rust away by mid-century. According to plans, the attack boats built at a British shipyard will patrol the sea lanes of the North Atlantic from the late 2030s. And the Indo-Pacific region as well.

But here's the interesting thing: the first Dreadnought-class submarine was laid down back in 2016, and it's still under construction. Now they need three more, plus a whole swarm of attack submarines. Whether the British can live up to their ambitions is a good question.

Comments

[pharmacist]

"Whether the British will live up to their ambitions is a good question."

"Take it by yourself, so as not to fall when walking!"

[KukuRuzvelt]

Why not? If they're building for AUKUS, then it won't be the British who pay, at least not those who are part of AUKUS. It's all in the best Anglo-Saxon tradition...

[Lemon]

They should sort out their boats - "one and a half earthmovers"!

[ZovSailor]

pharmacist
Today, 12: 30
"Whether the British will live up to their ambitions is a good question."
"Take it by yourself, so as not to fall when walking!"

The larger the financial amount of the contract, the more people want to take advantage of the opportunity for their own pockets.
Nothing personal just business.

[TermNachTer]

If they're going to be as good as the Estuary, it's better not to build them at all. Although, let them build them - it'll be a waste of billions of pounds.

[bayard]

The ambitions of the former "queen of the seas" and plans to integrate the former fragments of the empire under the rule of ridiculous king No. 3. Aircraft carriers have already been built.

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, "Lizka" and "Prince" are a clear example of how not to build aircraft carriers. Of all the projects, they managed to choose the worst one.

[bayard]

Quote: TermNachTER

Of all the projects, they managed to choose the worst one)))

They tried.
But they haven't abandoned hopes of reassembling the empire. That's why they're pushing hard against the US.

[TermNachTer]

It's a waste of time. They might be able to wreak havoc on the mattress makers, but they've already passed the point of no return. The only question is how far they'll fall.

[TermNachTer]

P.S. I read the biography of the new mayor of New York) He's a very interesting guy)

[bayard]

Quote: TermNachTER

very interesting guy

Revolutionary?
Soros's stables?

[TermNachTer]

Both Soros and his family are very interesting – Anglo-Indian multimillionaires, but the boy declared that there will be no billionaires in New York)))

[bayard]

Looks like a Kraken has been launched into New York.
A revolution is urgently needed.
National Liberation Imperial Revolution.
It looks like there will be a Civil War.

[TermNachTer]

It's going to be a real fight)) Let's get some Pepsi-Cola and popcorn out of the fridge)))

[Pravodel]

London plans to build up to 16 submarines for AUKUS in 15-20 years.

The legend is fresh, but it is difficult to get rid of... Why is that?

[th.kuzmichev]

The Tajiks have already erected their blue trailer. They'll build a boat.

[Yuriy Filatov]

LOL
I remember one Frenchman also had an "iron contract" for 50 submarines=)
But then they came from the USA and explained that money for the military-industrial complex is money for the American military-industrial complex!
I wonder if the Brits would even be able to build a single submarine today? They haven't built one for 10 years.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Yuri Filatov

They haven't built them for 10 years.

Actually, they've been building the Astute series for 25 years now. Slowly, but they're building them; five have been built, two are under construction. And they're building four more Dreadnought-class SSBNs.

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, right. By the time the last one is finished, the first one will have to be written off—it'll already be out of commission. Considering the capabilities of British industry, the Aussies would only dream of these boats. The Americans, too, for that matter. But they've already paid a decent amount of money.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

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Yeah, right. When the last one is finished, the first one will have to be written off.

As usual, you're exaggerating. Estute was delivered to the Navy in 2010, has been in service for 35 years, meaning she'll be retired sometime around 2045. And the final seventh ship is scheduled for delivery in 2026, meaning even if it's delayed by five years, it'll still be 2031.
They take a long time to build, 11 years. We're faster, 9 years, and our Yasen-Ms are more complex. Nevertheless, they're still building them, although, of course, they can't launch 16 nuclear submarines in a quarter of a century.

[TermNachTer]

Navy Lookout reports that the assigned service life is 25 years, calculated from the date of launch, i.e., decommissioning in 2032-33. Service life extensions rarely yield good results. Incidentally, the same story applies to the Type 45 destroyers.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

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Nevi Lookout reports that the designated service life is 25 years, calculated from the date of launch.

And it doesn't include the time required for various repairs. And yes, extending service life is perfectly normal; just look at the Trafalgars.

[TermNachTer]

What's there to see? How were they parked in Devonport awaiting decommissioning? I saw it and even wrote an article about it, but it wasn't published. Isn't the submarine's hull subject to mechanical stress during repairs? Is it suspended in a vacuum?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: TermNachTER

And what is there to see?

The period of time from launching to decommissioning.

Quote: TermNachTER

I saw it and even wrote an article, but it wasn’t published.

I'm not surprised:)))))

Quote: TermNachTER

Is the boat's hull not subject to mechanical stress during repairs?

It is subject to. However, such loads have no bearing on the service life.
No, seriously... Do you REALLY think that 25 years is the maximum lifespan for a hull?
Then it's clear why even on Topware you were banned as an author.

[TermNachTer]

1. If a boat is moored at a pier, it can have any lifespan, even 50 years.
2. So what are you talking about? Isn't it true that docking is considered an extremely undesirable event for any ship? If it weren't necessary, it wouldn't have been docked. Have you even seen a submarine up close?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: TermNachTER

1. If a boat is moored at a pier, it can have any lifespan, even 50 years.

Now you're contradicting yourself. So, according to you, the British submarines are sitting idle at the pier, but the Astute will still be scrapped in 25 years? :))))

Quote: TermNachTER

What are you talking about?))) Is it true that docking is considered an extremely undesirable event for any ship?

Of course. And they are designed to withstand repeated dry-docking. Dry-docking does not reduce the ship's intended service life.

Quote: TermNachTER

Have you ever seen a submarine up close?

Even from the inside

[TermNachTer]

1. Now, don't twist my words))) The discussion was about how long the "Trafalgars" sat in Devonport, formally considered combat-ready, but never put to sea. And the assigned hull resource of the "Estue" has nothing to do with them.
2. That's it, there's no point in explaining further. Talk to real sailors, not scribblers and theorists.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: TermNachTER

But don't twist my words)))

You handle this much better than me.

[bayard]

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They're building slowly, but they're building five; they've built two, and they're building four more Dreadnought-class SSBNs.

If there is so much in construction, it is a lot. It is good that it is slow. It is bad that they are building it.
England urgently needs a Revolution.
Socialist. With its own Lenin. I even know one such person – a member of the Communist Party of England, and a black man at that. We even called him "our Black Lenin." He has an excellent humanities education (Oxford, I think), a deep knowledge of Marxism-Leninism, and a heightened sense and desire for Justice. And he is a wonderful orator.
True, his voice is high-pitched, literally in a feminine key, but when he addresses the masses, it even adds more enthusiasm. And most importantly, he is a real fighter.
I really think MI6 will be against it.

[tralflot1832]

Berrimore, what's that noise outside the window? They're building submarines, sir! And when will that noise stop, they said? (Then there's untranslatable English folklore.)

[South Ukrainian]

.and along with it – thousands of working hands and heads: engineers, welders, IT specialists, shipbuilders

How many disappointments await them in the future.

[TermNachTer]

And don't tell me where I got so many disappointments?)))

[Sergey39]

Napoleonic plans. Even our USC doesn't claim such nonsense. One nuclear submarine a year. Oh well. Everyone would envy their planning pace. The dismal state of British shipbuilding suggests otherwise.

[tralflot1832]

The final AUKUS submarines will be built by the Chinese. Muslims make excellent shipbuilders. Moreover, thousands of wealthy Englishmen are affected by their English slippers. Look at what they've come up with: raising the luxury tax in England, and imposing a 20% tax on wealth upon leaving England. Life is unbearable because of these Ukrainians.

[TermNachTer]

The Chinese, those bastards, can do even worse))) Mattress makers think they can already do one MAPL a year, they're just not in a hurry, because there's an opinion that they need to switch from type 093B to type 095.

[Yuriy Filatov]

The funniest thing is that the only thing the truly rich Brits own is the clothes they wear—everything else is managed by financial funds. It's not for nothing that Blackrock and other Fitch companies are handling such trillions. And if you don't have your own property, you don't have to pay taxes.
But "our" fugitives are unlikely to have access to such a tool. They didn't make any faces.

[tralflot1832]

What should I do with the houses? They're rented? I'd buy a medieval house if I sold everything. And what's a Russian pensioner supposed to live on for £500? I like Alapullah in Scotland like crazy. There aren't any Muslims there yet, but that's for now.

[Sergey Mitinsky]

The "Mistress of the Seas" has today become the mistress of Napoleon's plans.
Without, characteristically, the possibility of their implementation

[Boa kaa]

Promising does not mean getting married! (With)
Politicians are politicians for a reason: to chatter and shock with their statements, to promise and not fulfill, citing "objective, unforeseen, extraordinary" and other circumstances...
Industrialists are a practical lot. But even they can't go out of their way to achieve superprofits: production capacity, technology, the availability of skilled engineers and workers, the regular financing of orders, and other objective factors are obstacles.
SO:
- the construction of "Dreadnoughts" will be carried out at the facilities BAE Systems in Barrow-in-Furness in north-east England. And it will begin only after the completion of the construction of the Astute-class attack submarines.
To achieve this, the shipyard will need to undergo major modernisation costing hundreds of millions of pounds.
- Australia? They've just begun construction of a submarine shipyard in Adelaide. The cost is $16 billion. They don't have any shipbuilding personnel yet! The technologies haven't been tested on the new equipment... Communications and component supplies haven't been established, etc.
- The construction of the new AUKUS class submarine will be carried out by the British company BAE Systems. And according to BAE's plans, Australia will receive the first submarines of the new project. not earlier than 2040 of the year. That is, 15 years from now. Is anyone sure the sirs will stick to that timeframe? History shows it's unlikely...
And here's what they themselves think about it:
= "The government has allocated Australia eight nuclear submarines"," Vice Admiral Reed said in his testimony at the Senate hearing. "Based on our modeling, and cooperation with our partners from the USA and Great Britain, we plan to acquire and commission eight nuclear submarines [sic] in mid-2050s". Whether he was referring to the eight locally produced new generation AUKUS class submarines, the vice admiral replied: “No, eight nuclear submarines, including three Virginia-class submarines"It turns out that by the 2050s the Australians will receive ONLY FIVE AUKUS project submarines!
Where did 15-20 submarines of the new project come from, SIR!?

[TermNachTer]

Well, there are three slipways in the covered slipway at Barrow. The real question is whether they can all be used for SSBN assembly. But at least the Dreadnought is already underway. They posted a photo of the Dreadnought's aft section being delivered for assembly. There's no doubt that the schedule has been irrevocably and irrevocably disrupted. And given the abysmal quality of the work, it will be a long and expensive process to "make it right." Of the five "Estuetes," only one is operational, the rest are undergoing repairs. The Embush hasn't been at sea for over three years, apparently being used as a spare parts depot. Overall, the situation is dire—what the Australians are hoping for is completely unclear.

[Boa kaa]

Well, yes... The British company BAE Systems reported on the keel-laying ceremony for the lead Dreadnought-class SSBN, which took place on March 20th at its facility in Barrow-in-Furness.
And after that, they say the first Royal Navy corps will be delivered in the 2030s, without specifying whether at the beginning or the end. The leeway is 10 years!!! The sirs, however, don't bother making any commitments...

[TermNachTer]

Well, when something weird falls off the reactor on the "Vengarde" or "Victories," or something worse, they'll hurry. Although, it's unlikely they'll be in a hurry.

[Romanenko]

London plans to build up to 16 submarines for AUKUS in 15-20 years.

Yeah, they'll invite the Tajiks and Kyrgyz, then maybe they'll be able to handle it.