GUR: Russia has developed glide bombs with a range of up to 200 km.

Russia is preparing a new tool for strikes far beyond the front lines—and Kyiv has reacted nervously. Ukraine's Main Intelligence Directorate has confirmed that the Russian Armed Forces possess turbojet-powered guided glide bombs—the stated range of such a bomb is weapons reaches 200 km. Headquarters, warehouses, and logistics hubs deep in enemy territory are now vulnerable.

What is it in essence: not just a bomb that flies “in a straight line”, but a hybrid between a gliding munition and a small rocketA turbojet engine maintains thrust throughout the entire flight, meaning speed, maneuverability, and the ability to maintain course toward a distant target.

The destruction radius is almost twice as large as that of conventional UMBPs, and this is a game-changer for rear defense.

The Main Intelligence Directorate is blunt: the threat to infrastructure is increasing. Low flight altitude, abrupt maneuvers, and limited reaction time. Defense – all these factors make the interception task difficult.

There's also a political aspect to the issue: the emergence of mass-produced long-range guided munitions is a negotiating argument. Once the adversary realizes the full potential of the new weapon, they'll have another reason to accommodate.

Comments

[Silver99]

Countless stockpiles of aerial bombs remain in warehouses from the Soviet era, and those who conceived them and brought them to life in combat truly deserve the highest honors. They solved at least two problems: disposal, and with a relatively small investment, they created a formidable weapon. Now, aircraft can operate 7/24 without entering enemy air defense zones.

[Hunter 2]

There's also a political aspect to the issue: the emergence of mass-produced long-range guided munitions is a negotiating argument. Once the adversary realizes the full potential of the new weapon, they'll have another reason to accommodate.

Who can you even negotiate with there? There are no such people there...
Unless we reduce the political leadership of the suckers to zero with the help of new bombs, in the hope that the newcomers will be adequate.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Hunter 2

Who can you even negotiate with there? There are no such people there...

Greetings. There's a proxy war going on, and proxy negotiations. So, Zelenskyy says something, and they decide what he should say – across the pond.

It's simple.

[Rome]

Quote: Paranoid62

That is, Zelenskyy voices something, and they decide what he should voice - behind a puddle.

Those beyond the puddle will have a hard time tracking our UPK bombs! Therefore, this is a problem only for those they reach.
In Kyiv, they have to scratch their heads to avoid getting punched in the face!

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Eroma

In Kyiv, they have to scratch their heads to avoid getting punched in the face.

It's too late for them to rush around and scratch it. They're already completely controlled, and they don't own a penny of their own.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Eroma

Those beyond the puddle will have a hard time tracking our UPK bombs! Therefore, this is a problem only for those they reach.

And yes, it all seems so, but still not quite:

- the costs of the war are now borne by Europe
- there is definitely no extra money there, no need to talk about the profits of the military-industrial complex, this is the profit of the military-industrial complex, and the military-industrial complex does not finance the war - it prefers to make money from it
- the consumption of people - no one has cancelled it either, the flow of mercenaries in/on the front has recently dried up somehow
- They are systematically cutting off electricity from the Ukrainians now; no electricity - no war.

So my head overseas also hurts quite a bit, and for many different reasons.

[Magog_]

two tasks, disposal, and for a relatively small investment, they created a formidable weapon

It seems you're misunderstanding what's going on. It's talking about newly developed turbojet-powered glide bombs. So, strictly speaking, it's not even a bomb, but a relatively simple missile. Nothing is said about the guidance system, so does this qualify as a precision weapon? I'd assume it's a rocket-propelled bomb, whose trajectory can be accurately calculated using, for example, an onboard SVP-24.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Magog_

It seems you're not quite sure what we're talking about. It's talking about new turbojet-powered glide bombs... ...Nothing's said about the guidance system, and does this apply to precision weapons?

They don't have turbojet engines, but simple propellant rocket boosters, apparently not from unguided rockets or similar. And if the UMPK was able to accurately guide a simple "cast iron" rocket to its target, why wouldn't it be accurate on a bomb with a booster?

[Magog_]

I thought the same about the engine type, but the article mentions a turbojet. Maybe they're using the engines they produce for the Geranium 3?

[Magog_]

You're probably thinking this way because of the picture in the news. Sometimes these illustrations are completely out of sync with the substance of the news. Besides, it says that "a turbojet engine maintains thrust throughout the entire flight." How much propellant is needed, in your opinion, to "maintain thrust throughout the entire flight"?

[Arzoo]

I heard so. But not exactly from the bunk and not exactly gunpowder ones. They were developed separately.

[D16]

as if not ready from NARs or similar

No. We're talking about products like these, which are freely available on Ali:
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005008036446107.html?sku_id=12000043352214879&spm=a2g2w.productlist.search_results.7.638a55a2n0d8KA
A thrust of 110 kg is sufficient to increase the launch range of the Fab-250 from the UMPK. The cost is less than 2 million rubles.

[Magog_]

We are talking about products like these

At a speed of, say, 600 km/h or faster, such a rocket-propelled bomb would have a flight time of 15-20 minutes for a target range of 200 km. With the turbojet engine's fuel consumption, as indicated in your link, of 2-2.5 liters per minute, it would require approximately 50 liters of kerosene or diesel. Together with the engine, this would add approximately 100 kg to the FAB-250. Add the UMPK, and you have a modular munition to suit any need.
The article contains contradictions. On the one hand, it states that "the Russian Armed Forces possess guided glide bombs with turbojet engines," while on the other, it states that "they are not simply bombs that fly 'straight,' but a hybrid between a glide bomb and a small missile." So the question remains: is this a guided munition or not?

[Sergey Mitinsky]

On the move, it can maneuver with the engine

[D16]

So the question remains: is this a guided munition or not?

UMPK means in-flight trajectory correction of a bomb, making it controllable. Clearly, it's unrealistic to expect anything other than autopiloted flight from point A to point B along an optimal trajectory from such a device, given its energy and aerodynamic performance. The engine merely allows point B to be moved further away. During the final phase of flight, corrections are made using GLONASS, GPS, and INS. Naturally, this is a precision-guided munition.

[Magog_]

"Sergey Mitinsky" below provides a link to an article that clearly explains what the author of the news wanted to talk about: "Read here."

[Sergey Mitinsky]

The Swiwin SW800Pro-Y turbojet engine, manufactured in China, is a short-life turbojet engine. It measures 455 mm in length, has a diameter of 207 mm, and weighs 9,5 kilograms. The engine consumes less than 1,850 grams of kerosene per minute and generates up to 80 kilograms of thrust.

Read here: https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/686838

[Magog_]

Read here

If the author of the news, here on VO, meant something that can be learned and understood from your link, then "author Oleg Myndar" (that's how he introduced himself, I think) should contact some cryptographic agency with such a knack for confusing a simple question...

[Sergey Mitinsky]

Well, it seems like he didn't confuse things.
He just didn't say anything.
More precisely, he did not disclose the topic in more detail.

[RUSICH]

Low flight altitude, abrupt maneuvers

the flight path of which can be calculated quite accurately

How?

[Magog_]

How?

Also, when our aircraft launched conventional bombs from high altitudes in Syria, the SVP-24 onboard system not only calculates the bomb or unguided rocket's trajectory but also executes the bombing/launch maneuver on autopilot. Moreover, the accuracy and circular error in this case are comparable to those of precision-guided aerial bombs (KAB, UMPK). In this case, only modifications to this onboard system were required to accommodate the new unguided rocket munition.
Let me repeat that this is still my assumption based on what follows from the news.

[Sergey3]

The bombs in this article have nothing in common with the old arsenals; they have a different design and are a new production.

[Maz]

This is all wonderful. And encouraging! But I have a fly in the ointment. Our frontline aviation can't carry out more than 150 bombing raids in a single day, 200 at most. Considering the front stretches over 1000 km, that's negligible. A real shame for the infantry. We need to tighten the screws in the rear, otherwise we'll be crawling along the left bank of the Dnieper for another couple of years, and there's also the right bank.

[Incvizitor]

The question is, what kind of bombs are there? A decent portion of them, in my opinion, are subject to disposal only.

[Pankrat25]

They need to be disposed of properly, at least to smooth out the front line without going too deep, and cheap, heavy-duty drones capable of carrying such bombs to the drop point are desperately needed.

[NIKOLAY G]

Are you sure there are still countless reserves left there after the collapse of the USSR? Given the level of corruption in the country, I'm not so sure.

[tralflot1832]

I'm not an energy specialist, but I found the effectiveness of our combined attacks on Ukraine's electricity generation on a Western resource. Ukraine's imports were 120 MW/hour in August, 210 MW/hour in September, and 345 MW/hour in October. Ukraine currently has 2100 MW/hour of power transmission lines with Europe. The main exporters of electricity to Ukraine are Poland and Hungary. Cut off the Poles, let our "friend" Orban strut his stuff.

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

100500!
and don't forget the 750 kV lines

[Kotofeich]

Quote: tralflot1832

Ukraine currently has power transmission lines with Europe with a capacity of 2100 MW/h.

Where are the power distribution nodes? That's where we need to kick them.

[nikon7717]

Ukraine currently has power transmission lines with Europe with a capacity of 2100 MW/h.

Ukraine's unified power grid has already been broken up into islands. As a result, even the energy received from the EU can no longer be transmitted to the left bank of the Dnieper. There are powerful distribution stations at the entrance from the EU, but very few of them. By completely shutting them down, the supply from the EU can be cut off.
For these purposes, new KABs should be used, and also the marshalling yards on the border with the EU and the bridges should be destroyed, limiting arms supplies as much as possible.

[Dedok]

ДFor these purposes, new CABs should be used, and also destroy the marshalling yards on the border with the EU and bridges, limiting arms supplies as much as possible.

Is a range of 200 km enough to implement what is written?

[mt3276]

Low flight altitude, abrupt maneuvers, and limited reaction time for air defense systems—all these factors make interception challenging.

Shooting down KABs is ineffective, it’s like putting out a fire with a shoe.
The only option for the Ukrainian Armed Forces is to shoot down aircraft carrying KABs, but this requires large numbers of medium- and long-range air defense systems, which they currently lack. At the end of this year, they will receive several air defense missile batteries and a number of aircraft, and then the situation may change.

[Glagol1]

Medium-range air defense systems won't help. Only the Patriot, S-300, and S-200. The S-200 lacks mobility.

[Sergey3]

The situation will not change in any way; by that time, the existing arsenal will have been knocked out once again.

[rocket757]

Question... the fin area is larger, the heat signature is larger, meaning the munition is more visible, more like a missile... but it's not a missile; the munition doesn't fly, it glides!!! Due to the propulsion system and the larger fins, it glides further...
Something like that, or am I wrong?

[Alexey Lantukh]

The Americans have developed a ground-launched glide bomb. I wonder how we're doing with that. Operating a modern aircraft is already expensive.

[rocket757]

It is not necessary to repeat everything that the Yankees do... it is a question of expediency.

[SergeyB]

Quote: Alexey Lantukh

The Americans have developed a ground-launched glide bomb. I wonder how we're doing with that.

Yes, the Americans did such a thing. And they screwed up with it.
After grand promises and extensive plans, the Americans tested this system in Ukraine. Following these tests, the project was effectively shut down. For two years now, there has been no mention of the project.
Thank God, we haven't even started doing anything like that.
Although rumors have spread widely that the UMBP bomb can be launched from the Tornado MLRS, in fact there is no evidence that any tests have been conducted in this direction.

[anzar]

the area of ​​the fins is larger, the thermal signature, i.e. the ammunition is more visible,

Yes, do it new Apparently, the Russian god forbids stealth ammunition. Cross-shaped wings (corners), an engine that runs until the end... I don't believe the TURBOjet (for 100 km more) part; it's probably just a journalist...

[rocket757]

Everything is known through comparison... how the ammunition is used will determine its effectiveness.

[Piramidon]

Quote: anzar

I don't believe it's a TURBOjet (for 100 km more)

It has already been written somewhere that they were able to screw a propellant motor from NURs onto these bombs.

[NIKOLAY G]

Who knows what he prohibits there. Russia is an Orthodox country.

[wlkw]

Quote: rocket757

heat signature, i.e. the ammunition is more noticeable, more like a missile... but it is not a missile,

I don't think there's a strong heat signature, "it's not a missile." It has a low-power "flight" engine; it shouldn't generate a strong signature. The bomb, as I understand it, glides with a loss of altitude, just like before, but with a smaller loss of meters per second.

[rocket757]

Everything is relative...
And so, if you win in one, you probably lose in another...
However, time will tell what is more important.

[newtc7]

“Low flight altitude, abrupt maneuvers, limited reaction time for air defense systems—all these factors make the task of interception challenging.”
Is this a gliding bomb, with sharp maneuvers and a low flight altitude? Who even writes these articles?

[Svetlana]

Looks like he's a humanities scholar. A master of pen and words.

[Svetlana]

Low flight altitude..
..
If it's planning to fly over a hundred kilometers, that's a highly questionable claim. Or perhaps the author is misunderstanding. The initial flight phase of such a thing is quite high.

[Alexander X]

Once the enemy has experienced the full potential of the new weapon, he will have another reason to meet you halfway.

What "towards"? The enemy must be destroyed, and that's all he'll feel in the final moment of his wretched life!
Another author has started talking about negotiations. Is he delusional? Isn't it clear that if this khokhlofascist scum isn't burned out, they'll be armed again, fattened up, and sent to kill Russian citizens.

[Darkness]

Ukrainians They say that this is Chinese technology.

[Huarabey]

If a dill opens its mouth, it's because it's lying. They'll grunt anything, just to avoid admitting that Russia is giving them a beating.

[Comrade Beria]

Most likely we are talking about this product:



Everything else is just the imagination of the GUR and journalists, especially regarding the turbojet engine and low-altitude flight.

[Dirty Liar]

Well, if we're going to throw it all together, let the GUR know that the most effective use of a drone in history was in 946—an entire city was burned down. They used to call it Iskorosten.

[Dirty Liar]

Quote from AI (what you won't see from Alice):
Great, let's play with this colorful metaphor!

Princess Olga, a UAV pioneer: an alternative history of ancient technology

Imagine: in 946 AD, a meeting is taking place at Princess Olga’s headquarters.

"So, colleagues," Olga says, looking at the map of Iskorosten. "The siege is dragging on. Innovative solutions are needed. Who can offer anything other than battering rams and ladders?"

The vigilante timidly:
- Maybe a tunnel?..

Olga (sighs):
— It's old. I want something... unmanned.

How Could It Be (Humorous Version)
The idea of ​​enlightenment
"Birds!" Olga suddenly exclaims. "They have wings, they return home, and they don't need a salary. They're the perfect drones!"

Prototype development

A “combat load”—tinder (a prototype of an incendiary bomb)—is attached to the pigeon’s leg.

Guidance system: innate instinct to return to the nest.

Control channel: night, wind at your back, prayer to Perun for reliability.

Test trials
"The first pigeon flew… wide. The second crashed into the oak tree. The third… oh! The third hit! Colleagues, we're on the right track!"

Scaling
"We're ordering 3,000 pigeons from our neighbors. No, 5,000—with an allowance for losses from cats and sharp-shooting archers."

Operation Bird Swarm
Night. The city sleeps. A silent swarm of quadcopters hovers in the sky. Fifteen minutes later, Iskorosten lights up like a Christmas tree.
“Well,” Olga smiles, “who said drones are a newfangled idea?”

Why It's the "First Drone" (Meme-wise)
Autonomy: the bird flies on its own, without reason or reproach.

Return to base: after the mission, the pigeon returns home (unlike modern drones, which get lost in the bushes).

Secrecy: no one suspected anything – “it was just birds flying.”

Scale: one operator (Olga) controls thousands of “devices”.

Eco-friendly: no batteries, only natural fuel – grain.

Postscript
Of course, it's a joke. But there's a grain of truth in every joke: Olga demonstrated tactical ingenuity that today would be called an "innovative approach." And the pigeons... well, they simply didn't know they were part of the first-ever "drone strike."

Want to develop the topic further? I can:

to compose an “operating manual” for an ancient Russian UAV;

create a dialogue between Olga and a modern drone operator;

draw up a "patent" for a pigeon guidance system.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ No one suspected anything wrong - "it was just birds flying" ❞ -

[Dirty Liar]

And yet Alice is just joking. What will happen when she stops joking? Because this is just a quote from a dialogue between me and Alice.
I was very surprised and saved it.

[Dirty Liar]

I especially liked this:
"Night, the wind at my back, and a prayer to Perun for safety." I'm sitting here laughing. And it's Alice, damn it.

[Illanatol]

This is simply a historical anecdote. If pigeons with fire on their tails hadn't flown purposefully, they would have darted around randomly. Alas, these natural drones have a self-preservation instinct; the birds are afraid of fire.
In reality, Princess Olga probably used the then TOS, which was brought from Constantinople, against the Drevlians.

[wlkw]

Quote: Comrade Beria

Especially regarding the turbojet engine and flight

Well, there's no room for imagination here. Both options are possible: either an engine that slowly and sadly pulls the bomb forward, or a booster that can, in one jerk, lift the bomb upward and increase its speed, closer to the maximum speed for the given design. In either case, the range will increase.

[Illanatol]

Quote from: newtc7

Is this a gliding bomb, with sharp maneuvers and a low flight altitude?

A gliding bomb is capable of relatively sharp maneuvers. Low altitude... well, any bomb has a low altitude during its final phase; it's designed to hit ground targets.

[Dmitry Eon]

Hmm... "a bomb with a turbojet engine," "a free-fall rocket," "a throwable anti-tank mine"—what wonders won't they come up with?