What war are we preparing for? Opinion amateur

228
What war are we preparing for? Opinion amateurToday every day the media tell us about the horrors of the wars of the future that NATO will wage, including against you and me with the help of combat unmanned attack vehicles (drones). Some go further, talking about what the sixth generation aircraft will look like, which, as many people think, will also be unmanned ...

And we, as usual, lag behind. And everyone is terrified! Just take it and hang it. We do not have the fifth one yet, it’s just being tested, and here it’s already the sixth, albeit simply drawn. Fearfully! Everyone laments over this. Liberals - where, they say, with a pig's snout. Patriots are the same thing, but under a different slogan: about ... whether the country, and now there is nothing to fight! And self-intimidation is the brand of today.

And the worm sharpens me all - something reminds me of everything. Eighty-third, Reagan, SDI. In the absence of computer graphics at the time, an animation of how orbital platforms with nuclear-pumped lasers litter rockets with a sickle and hammer on the sides. The fact that they did not finish off the platform is famously hit by ground-based anti-missiles.

Intimidated to death, and together we rushed to do the same.

Evgeny Velikhov told how academicians persuaded the leadership of the country and the Armed Forces, that it was not necessary to do this, that technically it was impossible to accomplish this, and to make rockets and warheads less vulnerable ... But who listened to them - the decision was made at the very top, perform.

Gleb Evgenievich Lozino-Lozinsky urged: let's not repeat their shuttle, we will make the Buran in our own way, it will work out better and the experience has already been. He replied: do not be clever, do as the Americans, only more ...

And always the same - just more. Directly some kind of disease according to Freud.

Well, burst out. Of course, there were many reasons for the collapse of the country: the concocted collapse in oil prices, the war in Afghanistan, and a lot of things internal - from the betrayal of the elites to the madhouse in the economy. But our imitation of the American SDI played its foul role.

Now everyone knows everything and readily writes that they separated us then as children, that it was a bluff and nothing more. But what did this teach us?

This is our ineradicable desire to do as they have. There are not stupid people, and there is nothing to be clever. The main thing is the same, but only more.
I wonder where we would be in now aviationif the Sukhoi Design Bureau had not defended its SU-27 concept? Would make a copy of the F-15? We always had enough fools, but we did not learn to believe our specialists. A stranger - yes, his own - no. And this trouble is not today's, but very old - decisions are usually made by those who have a very distant idea of ​​the essence of the problem. This is not only our problem, but how bad they are there - I am not very interested.

Notice, we are ahead of the rest, only where we did not catch up, but did it our own way. Now we are proud, and how many heart attacks this pride cost the chief designers, when they defended it, we don’t remember or don’t want to remember.

I am not an armament specialist or a military man. From the point of view of the latter - an amateur. I am a design engineer who, by necessity, has also become a manager in order to engage in the development and production of engineering products. I just suggest connecting logic and nothing else. Maybe my judgments are controversial - do not judge strictly.

So, the drone is a remote-controlled aircraft. The most famous examples are the American Predator and Raptor. These are the most common multifunctional droids that perform intelligence, target designation, and combat missions. The first is more reconnaissance, the second is more combat, and is generally similar. The maximum altitude is 10 and 15 km. Speed ​​- 150 - 200 km / h. Barrage time - 24 - 36 hours.

pros: 1) remote control, operator security; 2) low weight and size; 3) the ability to be in the air for a long time; 4) relatively low cost; 5) can be used without prepared runway and expensive infrastructure.

Cons: 1) remote control, that is, the possibility of losing the car when the enemy interferes or intercepts the control; 2) low speed as payment for the possibility of a long stay in the air and as a result - the inability to resist manned fighter jets; 3) low maneuverability and speed of response to changes in the situation - the camera can not replace the pilot, especially in close combat: turning your head and the camera is not the same thing; 4) high range only when controlled via satellite; 5) the inability to resist air defense systems and move away from them.

Conclusions. First - Drones needed in large quantities. Aerial photography, including battlefields, highlighting targets in a local conflict (somewhere in Africa or Southeast Asia; it’s not very clear what we should do there, but that’s another question), to search for a drug caravan going from Afghanistan to Tajikistan... But these are not combat vehicles and not for the army. But where combat is really needed is to carry out counter-terrorist operations - when you have to hover unnoticed in the air for several hours and wait for the appearance of a single vehicle on which you need to launch a rocket ... But this is also not for the army. For the army, this is reconnaissance of the battlefield. And even then - small inconspicuous devices that will not be paid attention to on the radar screen. And the loss of such an apparatus will not be significant.

This suggests a second conclusion: these “toys” were not created at all for us. More precisely, for us, if we became the recruitment of the Voronezh, Ryazan and Tomsk republics. Here you are welcome to get a drone strike or, at worst, “Tomahawk”. Just at some stage, as a state, we have already been written off and thought it was a matter of time. But this has nothing to do with a possible conflict between Russia and NATO.
Yes, it should be recognized that it is necessary to work in this direction and, perhaps, the time will come when the planes will become completely unmanned. But all this is required only for a war with a deliberately weak opponent who cannot deliver a massive blow to the territory of the attacking side. weapons mass destruction. Or, more importantly, it all makes sense if the liberal march across the planet eventually leads to the elimination of states and their replacement by corporations, which will solve their local problems in this way. And only lightly armed rebels will be able to answer them. But this is from the field of politics and has nothing to do with the armed forces.

There is no need to go far for examples. When all NATO piled on a small, defenseless Yugoslavia, the Serbs with the help of microwaves induced F-117 to the false targets and beat them down with the 125-based air defense missile system, created in the 1961 year.

Europe used drones for the suppression of Libya - even Gaddafi was calculated using them. But all this only after the Libyan air defense ceased to exist. At the same time, Europe, in the framework of the operation in Libya, spent almost the entire stock of Tomahawks. And this is all for Libya, 90% of which is desert, and everything interesting for bombs is concentrated on the shores of the Mediterranean. At the end of the operation, freedom-loving Europoids rushed in to replenish stocks in the US and ... received an invoice for prepayment.

Unmanned combat systems, cruise missiles, precision bombs were created to fight countries that lack or weak air defense systems. A Turkish reconnaissance aircraft shot down by Syria is an example. And he, as it turned out, was covered with Shilka, with a range of 2,5 kilometers. So even for Iran or North Korea, such an adventure is already risky to start (although there is a desire). And for China or Russia, this is generally from the realm of fantasy. And it's not even a nuclear, chemical or bacteriological weapon ...

An armed conflict between NATO and Russia cannot be launched as a humanitarian mission to change the “bloody Putin regime.” This can only be a full-scale war with an attempt to destroy Russia as a state, with tens of millions of victims of our citizens and the same victims from the opposite side. NATO must be ready for tens or even hundreds of thousands of dead soldiers in the very first days of the war. The attacking side of the soldiers must have several million, no less. Several hundred thousand professional military men are not counted, they will be the first, and millions of reservists are needed. What kind of reservists there are now - everyone knows, although we should also think about the quality of ours.

As for drones, it is not technically very difficult to install radio interference and blocking control and we need to develop these capabilities. Everybody has a promising American drone captured by Iran. They say it was not without our “Avtobaz” (always loved the names of our military equipment). Avtobaz itself could not do this, it is not meant for that, but it’s probably to participate ...

Then why all these horror stories? In my opinion, then, to distract from the main thing. The Achilles heel of all these systems, as well as the entire modern, especially the NATO army, is a high-precision guidance system. In short, near-earth space. And all the possibilities are for someone who can afford to have a large satellite constellation and use it for global positioning, intelligence, etc.

This means that the reason is not in unmanned killers, but in systems that allow them to be remotely controlled and aimed at a target. And not the one who will use high-precision weapons will win, but the one who can quickly and guaranteedly destroy the satellite grouping of the enemy - without it, all these systems turn into a pile of metal (I vaguely imagine the B-2 pilots with a paper map in their hands).

For this purpose, you can create miniature spacecraft that will quietly stick to the enemy’s satellites and control their work, and at the right moment to undermine them. This is from a series of expensive exotic. But you can stupidly, at the right moment, undermine the containers with small steel balls, which at 16 speed in kilometers per second, will sweep away everything, without discerning where their own and where others are. The Chinese draw is neither us nor you. When it comes to the existence of the state, sentiment can be left.

And I will not make a big discovery, saying that in this case the advantage will be on our side. We have such a large number of unguided missiles and multiple launch rocket launchers, as well as tanks T-72 without satellite lotions. This is our officers learning to go to the point of concentration on the map in the tablet. And not in that tablet with a bitten apple, but on a paper card in a leather tablet. We still have in our warehouses coils for wire communication, etc.

That somehow - do not judge strictly amateur.

What am I doing all about? And the fact that everything needs to know when to stop. Americans can play F-35, spend huge amounts of money and abandon the Comanche project, use the B-2 cost per aircraft carrier and unable to carry cruise missiles. It is possible for them, but we must think and listen with our head, who with this head can create what is called an adequate response. Adequate not by the number of investments, but by the effect obtained.

After exchanging the “lists”, whether someone likes it or not, we re-enter the Cold War era (everyone already understood this). The cold war involves a hot phase of confrontation. We need a modern army, but let's approach this wisely. Let's rely on scientists and engineers, on real officers and generals. Let's create the scientific, engineering and military elite again. And in any case, do not try to repeat the decisions of others. We must remember that not all of these decisions are true. And after all, and without pants to stay long.
Our news channels

Subscribe and stay up to date with the latest news and the most important events of the day.

228 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. fenix57
    +60
    April 26 2013 05: 28
    Article ++. In my MORE amateurish view, the logic in the article I read however is present. Yes But to what conclusion our Kremlin analytical departments will come (or have come) on this issue is not aware. what
    1. +10
      April 26 2013 07: 04
      Quote: fenix57
      ... But what kind of conclusion our Kremlin analytical departments will come to (or have arrived) on this issue is not known ...

      It's not bad, you and I, people sit and work in the analytical departments, they see and understand everything perfectly,
      1. +37
        April 26 2013 07: 59
        Quote: Bulls.
        It's not bad, you and I, people sit and work in the analytical departments, they see and understand everything perfectly,

        I would say that these are not only in the analytical departments. !!! Here is an example for you in the person of Fomin Vladimir. Who told us about something that many thought about. But they did not say, and did not publish. The topic raised is very relevant and topical. Everything really looks like in the case of SDI. A couple of years ago, drove into the taiga, wander))) I felt the charm of the failure of the ZhPS signal (it was the signal that was missing for 2.5 hours) I had to get nervous, ZhPS sent it one way to the other. Stepping out to the car, he turned on the automobile ZhPS, the situation is the same. So if I didn’t know the area, and relied on ZhPSU, I would have wandered for a long time. So I will say this. Not all that glitters is gold.
        1. patline
          +22
          April 26 2013 08: 16
          Undermining a nuclear charge in near-Earth orbit, and that’s all - there are no satellites.
          But you can try to do it more beautifully, namely, if you can take control of drones, then why not try to reprogram the satellites?
          1. +18
            April 26 2013 09: 14
            If a person is not present, it means that no one's thing flies. For this, you can practice firing on UAVs in peacetime ... well, and be surprised if suddenly there is a displeased owner.
          2. opkozak
            +9
            April 28 2013 01: 54
            take control of drones


            Yes, and you can just shoot them down
        2. +15
          April 26 2013 15: 11
          What are you doing ?! Well, why? Why go to the forest with this piece of iron? A person is able to clearly navigate even in a completely unfamiliar area, at least relative to the point from which he entered it. No superpowers are needed for this, everyone can do it. Just train yourself to check where your car is.
          Is that where he is now? And in ten minutes? So "ask" yourself, walking in any unfamiliar area, in the woods or in the city. The feeling of the fiducial point will quickly become permanent, you can call it at will. Why cut off your own legs and voluntarily change your own skill for a prosthesis?
          1. SIT
            +6
            April 26 2013 17: 24
            Quote: Mikhail3
            A person is able to clearly navigate even in a completely unfamiliar area, at least relative to the point from which he entered it. No superpowers are needed for this, everyone can do it. Just train yourself to check where your car is.

            After parachuting at night in a continuous forest with 3-level vegetation, you are unlikely to be able to immediately orient yourself if you do not drive someone else up a tree with 3rd generation GPS. If there is no GPS, then there is only all hope for the navigator of the transporter. If he correctly calculated the place of discharge, then go to the river or road marked on his and his map in advance taking with a margin in any direction, so that later, when you reach the landmark, you need to know exactly what to go downstream or to the left (right ) on the way to.
            1. +9
              April 26 2013 21: 44
              It will work out. Our father took us 14-year-old boys to the forest, each time to a new place. And we went out to pick mushrooms, going out on the road somewhere 15 kilometers from the point of "discharge". Moreover, we decided in advance on which road and in which place we would go, without worrying about an unfamiliar path through the forest. Often my father did not pick us up, we either walked home on our own (30 km was not a problem), or waited for a ride. I got older - I learned better ...
              Of course, when it comes to the performance of a combat mission, all available means should be used. But it is EVERYTHING. Because technology breaks down much more often than a real person. If ZhPSi orders to go to the left, and the chuyka drags to the right - believe yourself. How many times checked ...
              1. SIT
                +1
                April 27 2013 18: 17
                Quote: Mikhail3
                If ZhPSi orders to go to the left, and the chuyka drags to the right - believe yourself.

                Did you jump into an unfamiliar area at night? And ZhPSi does not order anything. It simply provides a position point in a field tablet, into which a satellite image is loaded onto a digital terrain model. You see your position with an accuracy of 5m and imagine what kind of relief is around. In total darkness in the rain, this is no substitute for a cocktail. Chuyka works there already during the movement. The tablet by the way perfectly shows if it is put into the water by 30 cm. And it’s also convenient to chop nuts with its screen. He put the nut on a stump, on top of the tablet and crouched lightly on this matter, so that the nut would only crack, and not be smeared.
                1. Suvorov000
                  +1
                  April 30 2013 13: 04
                  And how did they jump into unfamiliar terrain in the Second World War at night and how did they navigate, I don’t even know I probably used the compass, there’s such an interesting little thing))) nobody reduces the benefits of the ZhPS, you just need to be able to move without it, hope for God and don’t hesitate heard this). Your ZhPS is the very first thing that will fail in the event of a real war, and how often do you see a tablet with a simple soldier, and do what you recharge. I never wondered why our art guides are still forced to calculate not only without a computer, but without a calculator. Westerners do not even think of this as barbarism) consider the Neanderthal)) the distance to the object is calculated with the help of a carnation and a rope and the mind and that is typical))) the range finder such a hedgehog then shows the distance))
            2. 0
              April 30 2013 15: 12
              Quote: SIT
              parachute night landing in a continuous forest with 3x longline vegetation

              Well, this is only if someone decided to simply kill the paratroopers immediately, so as not to suffer. To such idiocy a rare nerd guess.
              The circular error during the landing is not very big. The navigator, before being thrown, warns about the direction and speed of the wind. Calculating the direction and distance of a possible deviation is a task for a paratrooper in his first year of service. I myself made jumps at night, though not as wild as you described and calmly navigated the landing site without any gimmicks, like "3rd generation GPS" and without fermenting in search of rivers or roads. It's just that before completing the task, you need to carefully study the map, and even better figure out the semblance of a terrain model so that each soldier understands.
          2. +1
            April 26 2013 18: 14
            I don’t think that you can clearly navigate with the required accuracy of 15 meters
          3. Snake4
            0
            April 26 2013 18: 16
            Michael, can you elaborate more?
            There are only echoes of use, but I have never met training methods anywhere
            1. +9
              April 26 2013 21: 54
              Have you met the method of throwing knives? Everywhere it is simply said - the knife must make one revolution. Regardless of the distance. Or do not make a turn at all (a bad method for my taste, an effective throw no more than 1,5, easier to beat than to throw). Why is that? Because to master a skill you just need to know firmly - it is possible. And demand a result from yourself! It will turn out without options.
              Do you know why bikers are so healthy? Because the bike weighs as much as it weighs. And falling, it must be raised. And you can’t turn it around with smoke, it’s not Hollywood tea, on the third turn you will tear the rubber to the cord. So the handle-legs ... I know girls weighing 55 kilograms who lift their Tourers off the ground that weigh 250-270. And nothing cope ...
              The whole "secret" is that it is possible, and with due desire you will do it.
              1. Snake4
                0
                24 May 2013 18: 26
                Makhail, I asked you about a specific method, not about the lecture of the Knowledge Society. All that is needed is obtained.
                By the way, the knife can make several revolutions, the main thing is to calculate the distance and know your own style, half a turn can go 1-3 meters for each in his own way. further than 10 meters you do not throw 1 revolution in any way, arithmetic, eye and division.
                Raising a bike is even easier - the technique as a counterweight, we know, went through.
      2. vilenich
        +23
        April 26 2013 08: 07
        Quote: Bulls.
        It's not bad, you and I, people sit and work in the analytical departments, they see and understand everything perfectly,

        This is not enough, it is also necessary for the guys with stripes on their pants not to chase expensive projects in the hope of sawing off a piece of budget money for their summer cottage, but they will really get down to protecting the homeland!
      3. +7
        April 26 2013 08: 59
        Quote: Bulls.
        It's not bad, you and I, people sit and work in the analytical departments, they see and understand everything perfectly,

        Alas, if everything and everything depended on these "people", but it depends on others, on those who draw conclusions based on these analyzes, and even more on those who decide which analysis is worth showing and which is not ... very subjective ... and unfortunately the human factor is very much mixed into this process. In short, everything depends on the person, it is both pleasing and frightening. It is pleasing and frightening that a person can both be mistaken and afraid - on the example of our country before the Second World War, when the general grouping of German troops overestimated in terms of equipping with tanks and aircraft, when they watched the "filling" of this army with warm clothes and winter weapon grease in fundamentally not understanding the doctrine of the "blitzkrieg", when, simply because of fear, they did not show data on the movement of troops, trying not to go against Stalin's opinion, and the fact that with adequate and strong leadership it is possible to organize and find ways to victory, and then purposefully execute and ultimately win ...
      4. German
        +2
        April 26 2013 12: 38
        about worse or not ... this is also an interesting question!
      5. +3
        April 26 2013 14: 59
        Except ... they also see (and understand perfectly well) a huge chunk of money. Which can be obtained on a "theme" like "an armada of military drones, invincible and legendary." One has only to recognize this Panama as real ... they drank and drank. And our wise and completely disinterested officials are hovering around ...
      6. yak69
        +10
        April 26 2013 15: 46
        Quote: Bulls.
        It's not bad, you and I, people sit and work in the analytical departments, they see and understand everything perfectly,

        So it’s so, yes, one BUT. It is worth putting one redhead or another of the same to control these people and that's it, Khan! They put a stool in the army to steer, so we weren’t left without a sun. A traitor (saboteur, zalanets) - this is the most effective and not expensive weapon that destroys everything in its path to the nines.
        And again, absolute efficiency - for those who introduce it, it costs almost nothing, but for the enemy, complete ruin!
        I propose to introduce a stool in the chiefs of NATO or the Amer’s army. From these pido ... owls some footcloths will remain.
        Change the stool to Victor Bout!
        1. warm
          +2
          April 26 2013 15: 49
          Quote: yak69
          They put a stool in the army to steer, so we weren’t left without a sun. A traitor (saboteur, zalanets) - this is the most effective and not expensive weapon that destroys everything in its path to the nines.

          tell me, who put the "traitor" on this post?
          1. yak69
            +3
            April 26 2013 22: 27
            Quote: iliq
            tell me, who put the "traitor" on this post?

            For God's sake, just do not ask this question to fans of the Main!
            It is dangerous, can bite.
            After being bitten, you run the risk of becoming his fan.
            hi
        2. +2
          April 26 2013 22: 59
          Exactly Kudrina as the finance ministers and Chubika in their department of development and implementation of everything new, it's MEGA experts !!!
          Especially according to the arguments of the local sources .. Toko, these valuable shots work behind the lines of a potential enemy .. that is, with us ..
      7. Cheloveck
        0
        April 27 2013 00: 30
        It is understandable that, theoretically, it is not worse, but the trouble is that these analysts work on orders, hmm ...
    2. NKVD
      +10
      April 26 2013 11: 01
      Amerikosov and "5" generations do not fly, but they are already trying to talk about the 6th generation ... laughing
      1. +9
        April 26 2013 11: 13
        Quote: NKVD
        ... Amerikosov and "5" generations do not fly and they are already trying to talk about the 6th generation ...

        ... IMAGE, EVERYTHING !!!
        The main thing is to tryndet more, about your technical superiority ...
    3. +11
      April 26 2013 14: 03
      Normal article, without any kapets or tear all of us. And here is the infor. the war is going on against us friends. Who comes to us with M16 will die from AK 74.
    4. Alexey K.
      +1
      April 26 2013 21: 58
      Everything new is well forgotten old.
      Recall the Germans near Moscow - sort of motorized. the modern army, and how frost hit the whole equipment and became a stake) And the most important weapon that we have is a simple RUSSIAN SOLDIER who will defend the Fatherland without sparing his stomach and in spite of any obstacles and difficulties.
      1. +1
        April 27 2013 01: 05
        It is rather a consequence of the underestimation of the enemy. The Wehrmacht seriously hoped for the 2-3 of the month to end the war in the worst cases before the first frosts. Hence the disadvantage of the advanced parts of winter uniforms and winter fuel and lubricants.

        Now the enemy can take these moments into account and, for example, start to bomb the dachas of officials and oligarchs (I’m exaggerating, of course smile ), with the tacit approval of a significant part of the people. Although both the French and Germans came with the official program: We will free the common people from the fool of the autocrat or the Jewish commissars, but they always got a bummer with a note: “maybe it’s ha * but, but it is our ha * but, and you go along the forest”
    5. +1
      April 29 2013 11: 24
      The paradox is that there is a new, modern word "mastered" laughing Now, if there was a feedback, in the implementation of any idea, there would be criminal liability (well, in extreme cases, "Faberge" at the door was repressed laughing would have thought. But I think that everything will be all the same good
  2. +48
    April 26 2013 05: 30
    They are diligently trying to convince us that in the 21st century everyone will fight exclusively with small professional armies with the wide use of precision and unmanned weapons. There is only one question: if they deploy a couple of classic tank armies against them, what will they do - scream that now no one is fighting? wassat
    1. +26
      April 26 2013 05: 40
      Quote: Ruslan67
      They are trying hard to convince us that in the 21st century everyone will fight exclusively with small professional armies

      Yeah, and so we urgently put new Poplars and Yarses on the database what Well, in principle, yes, a lot of people will not need laughing
      1. +6
        April 26 2013 05: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        many people do not need laughing

        Your optimism rolls over today good Unlike my pessimism sad wassat
        1. +16
          April 26 2013 06: 03
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Your optimism rolls over today

          So the title of the article is What kind of warrior are we preparing for? There is no need to be a professional. To understand ........... it smells like radioactive kerosene laughing
          They are with us with drones, and we will sow them with Poplars. All honestly wassat
          1. +17
            April 26 2013 06: 06
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , and we sow them with Poplars.

            Poplar fluff and all P .... c Nights are so lunar bully
            1. +19
              April 26 2013 06: 14
              Quote: Ruslan67

              Poplar fluff and all P .... c Nights are so lunar

              Well yes laughing
              1. +14
                April 26 2013 06: 18
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Well yes

                But we just need to immediately clarify what we will ship to what will remain from America - In a blue wagon or in a blue g .... n? what And do you understand that different departments have disagreements on this issue? wassat
                1. +13
                  April 26 2013 06: 38
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  And do you understand that different departments have disagreements on this issue?

                  That's all. What remains of the Pentagon, and where to load it, well, figure it out for yourself. We wash our hands laughing
                  1. +2
                    April 26 2013 06: 42
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    , and where to load it, well, sort it out yourself. We wash our hands

                    Sasha won't do that negative This is already from the series -A aunt sofa lie down and give a plan wassat Together Poplar Fluff! Together and decide how to dispose of waste bully
                    1. bask
                      +11
                      April 26 2013 07: 34
                      What war are we preparing for? Opinion amateur

                      An article about UAVs (reconnaissance and strike). Or about the army of the Russian Federation ,, TO WHICH WAR THE ARMY IS PREPARING. ,,,
                      Answering questions yesterday, the president said that the army was ready to repel any aggression from outside. Russia's nuclear potential allows us to hope that this is so.
                      But what to do with the ground forces, airborne forces, marines. The troops are almost completely lacking modern armored vehicles. And the rate of its entry into the troops of 7 units per year is a mockery of a great country.
                      Everyone hopes that there will be new armored vehicles. But it will appear in the troops no earlier than 20 years.
                      Upgraded armored vehicles are carried out, without taking into account modern threats, in the cheapest version.
                      Production continues, BTR80 / 82 without mine protection.
                      The Republic of Armenia is ready for a nuclear conflict. It’s not ready for an asymmetric war against terrorists. There is a war in Syria, we don’t take into account the experience of this war. We are not even planning to buy SMRAP ,, Typhoons ,, and SMP-2013 ,, Bear, in 3, .After all, the explosions in the S. Caucasus, and attacks on military personnel and the Ministry of Internal Affairs continue.
                      In the event of a local conflict or war with terrorists, the ground forces and airborne forces will again suffer heavy losses.
                      1. +7
                        April 26 2013 09: 37
                        Quote: bask
                        But what to do with the ground forces, airborne forces, marines. The troops are almost completely lacking modern armored vehicles. And the rate of its entry into the troops of 7 units per year is a mockery of a great country.

                        New technology is definitely important. But, in my opinion, the ability to use this technique and the interaction of troops are more important. In 1941, the T-34s were the best tanks, but that didn't help us. And the interaction was not at the highest (to put it mildly) level. So even with the current ("backward") technology, there is room for growth and development of the Russian army. No?
                        I do not know, maybe you know how many shots our soldier fires from a machine gun (for the entire service period) and how many shots the soldiers of the "potential enemy" have?
                      2. bask
                        +4
                        April 26 2013 16: 52
                        Quote: tan0472
                        was not at the highest (to put it mildly) level. So even with the current ("backward") technology, there is room to grow

                        Russia has modern weapons. T-90MS, MPAP ,, Ural ,, KamAZ ,,
                        BMD-4M ,,, Octopus-D ,, self-propelled guns, VIENNA, BMP-3M, BMP-3F. They can and should be upgraded by strengthening mine protection, modern, thermal imagers, SLAs, KAZ, DZ. And most importantly, the volume of rearmament be not a minority of 500 units of armored vehicles for various purposes per year MINIMUM !!!
                        Adoption of the BMP / BTR-T ((heavy))

                        PERSPECTIVE ARMORED EQUIPMENT; MODULARITY OF DESIGN ON WHEEL AND TRACKED STROKE. WITH UNIFICATION OF NODES AND UNITS NOT 80-%
                      3. +3
                        April 27 2013 01: 20
                        For the most part, what you called this is a further variation in the development of the Soviet legacy. Yes, of course, the equipment is excellent and can withstand the modern realities of war. However, it does not have a high-quality separation, as is permissible between jet and piston aircraft. They took the Ministry of Defense and bought Tagil MS in the 5000 T-90 troops, everyone is happy. However, the machine retained many of the shortcomings of the T-72, just the designers carefully leveled them, covered them. At the same time, it was possible to bring a certain amount of t-72 by modernization to a completely acceptable level, and later on to purchase Armata tanks themselves (God forbid).

                        It is just necessary to carry out a very skillful gradation of what is needed now and what can be tolerated until better times. It’s like civilization in the game: you can now create a huge number of knights and capture the whole world through long wars, or you can wait to develop science and crush everyone with one tank.
                      4. 0
                        April 26 2013 20: 57
                        Quote: tan0472
                        In 1941, the T-34s were the best tanks, but that did not help us.

                        Enough to push through these myths. In the 41st T-34 was a crude, unprepared machine, the USSR fought light tanks for two years, until the medium and heavy ones were brought to mind.
                      5. SIT
                        +9
                        April 26 2013 17: 35
                        Quote: bask
                        But what to do with the ground forces, airborne forces, marines. The troops practically completely lack modern armored vehicles.

                        The President announced that there will be an increased tax on expensive cars. Replace the monetary form of this tax with a natural one. I bought myself a Ferrari - buy a BMP3 for the country, bought Maybach, which means you won't get poorer from BMD4. Steep cars do not give out of the cabin until in part the acceptance certificate of the combat vehicle is signed.
                      6. 0
                        April 26 2013 22: 26
                        Quote: SIT
                        Replace the monetary form of this tax with a natural one. Bought a Ferrari - buy a BMP3 country

                        Yes
                    2. +4
                      April 26 2013 08: 24
                      and what to decide, we will fertilize the soil) this means "Together and decide how to dispose of waste"
                  2. STIMUS94
                    0
                    April 30 2013 18: 34
                    Ahaha, yes. That's for sure)
              2. +1
                April 26 2013 19: 52
                Alexander Romanov
                Thank!!!! He laughed, aszhnik struck on the trail. :)))))
              3. Zmey_2Garin
                +7
                April 26 2013 22: 08
                Slowly rockets float away
                Meet them, Mr. Reagan, wait.
                And although America is a little sorry, the Japs have it ahead.
                Maybe we offended someone in vain,
                slapping a couple of extra megatons,
                look how fun the earth is boiling there
                where was the Pentagon once ...
                Tablecloth, tablecloth, binary gas spreads and rests against my gas mask.
                Every commando believes in the best,
                maybe someone will survive of us ...
                A nuclear fungus is standing, swinging,
                resting right in the sky ...
                The tanks of Germany, like candles, are melting,
                to hell they let the factory ...

                PS: Classic - she’s not getting old at all!
          2. +7
            April 26 2013 07: 33
            Well, Alexander, Poplar is a kind of drone, so really everything is fair.
          3. Kaa
            +9
            April 26 2013 13: 20
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            They are with us with drones, and we will sow them with Poplars. All honestly
            They are on us with AUG - and here is the Legend - the target designation system is ready to replace: "In 2013, Roscosmos and the Russian Ministry of Defense will complete the creation of the newest Russian satellite reconnaissance system" Liana "in orbit. It will consist of four newest radar reconnaissance satellites, which will be based at an altitude of about 1 km above the planet's surface and constantly scan land, air and sea space for the presence of enemy objects.
            “The four satellites of the Liana system - two“ Peonies ”and two“ Lotus ”- will in real time detect enemy objects - airplanes, ships, cars. The coordinates of these goals will be transferred to the command post, where a virtual real-time map will be generated. In case of war, high-precision strikes will be delivered at these facilities, "the representative of the General Staff explained the principle of the system." The first satellite, Lotus-S, with index 14F138, had a number of drawbacks. After putting into orbit, it turned out that almost half of the on-board systems did not function. Therefore, we demanded that the developers bring the equipment to mind, "said the representative of the Space Forces, which are now included in the Aerospace Defense. At one of the enterprises that participated in the development of the Lotus satellite, they explained that all the satellite’s shortcomings were due to shortcomings in satellite software. “Our programmers have completely redesigned the software package and have already reflashed the first Lotus. Now the military has no complaints against him, ”the Izvestia source said.
            According to him, two more satellites for the Liana system will be launched into orbit before the end of 2013 - one Lotus-S 14F145, which will intercept data communications, including enemy communications (radio intelligence), and a promising radar reconnaissance satellite "Peony-NKS" 14F139, which will be able to detect an object the size of a car on any surface. The development of "Peony" will be completed at the end of 2013. However, Liana will be able to start working without it. Until 2015, another “Peony” will be included in Liana, thus, the size of the system constellation will expand to four satellites. After entering the calculation mode, the Liana system will completely replace the outdated Legend - Tselina system, built back in Soviet times, which ceased to function in 2008 due to the development of satellite resources. According to Igor Lisov, columnist for the specialized publication Cosmonautics News, the Liana system will increase the capabilities of the Russian Armed Forces several times to detect and destroy enemy targets. "After the Legends was decommissioned, the Ministry of Defense had a great need for surveillance and target designation. Now the Liana system will be able to satisfy it. "Legend" was created for a narrow task - tracking American warships, in particular aircraft carriers. Its radars could detect objects several tens of meters long. “Liana, on the other hand, solves a wider range of tasks and can detect small targets,” Igor Lisov explained. At present, according to Jane, the Russian orbital constellation consists of six spacecraft (SC) of radar reconnaissance (2 - 11F688 and 4 - 17F688), six Tselina radio-intelligence reconnaissance spacecraft and about three dozen photo intelligence and optoelectronic reconnaissance spacecraft of the Araks system. Http://army-news.ru/2012/09/sputnikovaya-razvedka-liana-zarabotae
            tv-201
        2. German
          0
          April 26 2013 12: 44
          the difference between O. and P. is that P. is a well-informed O. wassat
    2. +6
      April 26 2013 10: 38
      Drones will come in handy both against the Papuans and in the occupied territories against the Partisans, IHMO in the US Army - their main purpose in this. Yes, and in the Navy, also fit for Borders. In addition, they can be set against infrastructure as the first wave, flew in, fired a rocket at that point and come back if you can. And the second wave of air defense targets destroys.
    3. +12
      April 26 2013 15: 16
      They always do that. I mean, they scream that the wrong Russians are fighting wrong. So they pick up their knocked out teeth in a hut and scream. And they moan, whine and cry.
      If not for our horde of traitors, which diligently turns the pitiful groan of the defeated fools into a "victorious march of the civilized West", which again "the gray-footed Russians have filled up with meat" (and then all were raped, including concrete pillboxes. Six times) ...
      1. +4
        April 26 2013 15: 21
        About concrete pillboxes is 5 !!! good
        1. 0
          April 26 2013 23: 16
          six said ... wassat
      2. ZhuDkiyDrugg
        +1
        1 May 2013 13: 13
        1 megatons set good
  3. 0
    April 26 2013 05: 31
    yes completely for. you have to live your mind.
  4. vladsolo56
    +12
    April 26 2013 05: 42
    No one will replace a person, at least in the next hundred years, especially in the army. In the article, everything is logical and correct.
  5. Belogor
    +7
    April 26 2013 05: 47
    Quite reasonable arguments of the author, as A. Suvorov used to say, "To fight not by numbers, but by skill." There is a counterargument for every argument of the opponent.
  6. +5
    April 26 2013 06: 01
    Now everyone knows everything and readily writes that they separated us then as children, that it was a bluff and nothing more. But what did this teach us?

    This author wrote about SOI ...

    I will not dispute his conclusion about this SDI, but I want to remind myself and tell you the situation that occurred in 1976, which I witnessed, and the consequences were discussed by the direct participants for a long, long time ...

    So, the summer of 1976 ... On one Sunday, my parents gathered guests at home when an unusual storm occurred in the afternoon - a very strange cloud cover the sun, a gale of wind came in and a deep evening fell on the street. Then everything was clouded with strange dust, which the wind filled between the window frames in a large layer ... It’s good that none of us was on the street, although there weren’t any of those who were affected by the thick curtain, but it was clear that it was very breathing to find ourselves on the street troublesome - apparently the then frequent lessons in civil defense during emergencies, allowed passersby to instantly orient themselves and breathe through the tissue ...
    Everything lasted no more than half an hour, then everything died down and the sun shone brightly again ... Only the dust stuffed between the windows turned out to be a burn-out, ashes of a strange reddish color.
    That year, a forest burned very strongly in the Far East.
    And everything would be forgotten, if after years, in the process of professional activity, I would not have the opportunity to talk with people who participated in the events directly in the fire areas ...
    And here is what many have said:
    pos. Muchen is one of the logging centers ...
    Fires wandered around the settlements, a bunch of bulldozers expanded the mine lanes around the villages ...
    One day, during the lunch break, when the workers left the lower warehouse, the whole and immediately stacked pile of forest suddenly broke out - 4000 mb. (if anyone has no idea, then this is a huge pile of forest, very huge) ... It didn’t catch fire from which end, but flared up at once (!)
    On another day, a house on the outskirts broke out in the same way (I note that adults were at work, children in schools and kindergartens, and the lights were turned on by the clock ... The stove did not heat up, because summer)
    Thus, there was a fire of more than one house and not in one village ...
    People walking separately flashed and burned. The technique burned down together with a section of the forest in such a way that a part of it looking towards the forest "flowed" melting, while the other remained completely intact, with unburnt paint ... Nearby were found only the internal organs of people who for some reason did not have time to escape from the fire, i.e. .e. the body burned out completely, but the stomach and intestines, which have the highest concentration of water, remained.
    In general, at that time the forest funds of several powerful forestry enterprises burned down, many workers' villages burned down, people died, many units were destroyed. technicians ...
    Such cases occurred on vast territories, but locally - the Nanai district and its entire logging base were damaged, the Khorsky timber industry enterprise in the Lazovsky region and almost its entire base were damaged, almost the entire base of the Vanino timber industry was burned down, where the artillery warehouses were hooked up, the remains of which were evacuated to the end of the 80s x (I also found the movement of ammunition to Kamchatka in the Yelizovo district), the Komsomolsky and Khabarovsky districts suffered a little less ...
    The opinion of the then directors of the timber industry enterprises, heads of departments and less senior employees and ordinary workers of the timber industry enterprises was that what had happened was not at all like the elements ... But it looked like tests of some new weapon ... So the question remained: - who experienced?
    Ours on conditionally deserted territory or an adversary on the Cold War ...
    From that time until now, those areas of the forest in the Far East cannot recover and harvest the forest to the extent that existed in those distant years ...
    And you say SOI ............
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 06: 15
      ADDED
      There were similar severe fires in the area of ​​the Lidoga-Vanino road in 1998-99, but there was clearly an element there - powerful horse fires threw burning trees from the hills to the hills across the road along which the timber trucks went ... There were no dead heroes of timber carriers among their acquaintances It was.
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 06: 59
        Tartary - hello wink to the above, I can add the following from a not so distant time: 2 years ago, in the summer, on a warm cloudless night, standing on the balcony and staring at the stars, I suddenly felt a sharp drop in ambient temperature ... I could withstand no more than 5 seconds and after that , as the ribs began to freeze (by feeling) jumped into the kitchen, closing the balcony door. After 10-15 seconds. , when checking, overboard again a warm summer night and only a slight smear on the windows in the rest. And in March of this year, in Ust-Ilimsk and Bratsk, AT THE SAME TIME snow tornadoes on the territory of both cities ... at the course of 2 meters there was a 30th floor covering the lobovuha. This snow crap raged in the city for 6-15 minutes and died down within a couple of minutes - again the sun and blue sky and small clouds ... and buried in ditches "_dibiloids_ behind the wheel" trying to drive no matter what (they distinguished themselves especially jeeps) drinks
        1. Kaa
          +3
          April 26 2013 13: 37
          Quote: viktor_ui
          And in March of this year, in Ust-Ilimsk and Bratsk, SIMULTANEOUS tornadoes on the territory of both cities.
          Yes, for a long time already such c.r.u. worked in the USSR, earlier than in the States. "Both the American HAARP, the Russian Sura, and other similar complexes were originally intended to study the effect of powerful radio emission on the propagation of radio waves in near-earth space - the ionosphere and the earth's magnetosphere. The defense task is to ensure the reliability of telecommunication systems, including when the solar plasma invades the near-Earth space, the scientific one is to learn how to simulate these processes without the participation of the solar plasma, acting on the atmosphere by radio waves... The research method is the impact on the ionosphere and magnetosphere of the Earth by radio emission. For example, I can tell you that ten years ago a large coronal mass ejection came from the sun to the Earth, which seriously affected the operation of communication systems, such "surprises" can occur not only from solar exposure, but, for example, can be a consequence of explosions in near-earth space. Many people, including the military, are interested in how to protect themselves from this. This is what the "heating" scientific community (Hiting Community) is engaged in - scientists working on such "Sura" and HAARP test sites. In 2005, the American meteorologist Scott Stevens claimed that Hurricane Katrina was aimed at the United States with the help of a secret climatic ("weather") weapon developed in the Soviet Unionbased on the principle of an electromagnetic generator. "It has been established that in the 60s and 70s the former Soviet Union developed and took pride in weather modification technologies that have been used against the United States since 1976," - he claimed on his personal website, from where this version was gleaned by the American media. In an interview with the Postregister newspaper, Stevens also said that, according to his information, the mysterious interference observed on shortwave radio broadcasts is proof of the existence of a "Russian weather control machine". The Sura multifunctional radio complex was founded in the early 80s. near Vasilsursk, Nizhny Novgorod region, 150 km from Nizhny Novgorod. Designed for studying the ionosphere. Managed by the Nizhny Novgorod Scientific Research Radiophysical Institute (NIRFI). The complex includes antennas, a building of a radio transmission complex, a transformer substation, laboratory and utility buildings. The complex is based on three short-wave PCV -250 radio transmitters with a power of 250 kW each and a transceiver antenna. For comparison: HAARP (Alaska) - power up to 3600 kW, EISCAT (Norway, Tromsø) - 1200 kW, SPEAR (Norway, Longyearbyen, formerly owned by Great Britain) - 288 kW. The Sura complex is currently the largest radio complex for studying processes in the near-earth space in the world, second only to the American HAARP and the European EISCAT. http://aenforum.org/index.php?showtopic=1339
      2. +3
        April 26 2013 09: 03
        It is intriguing, only in 1976 was SDI far away. What then could it be?
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 10: 51
          Well, in general, SOI has nothing to do with it. SDI envisioned the launch of satellites that would shoot down ballistic missiles, etc.
          This is more and more like HAARP - a climate weapon. And here there should be less doubt. This thing has already been involved more than once. But again, there are a lot of doubts. Perhaps some natural disasters in the United States (the same New Orleans and Catherine) were caused precisely by failures with climate weapons. you can guess a lot, but still SOI is a little different!
          1. +1
            April 26 2013 12: 53
            HAARP began operating in 1997.
            1. Kaa
              +3
              April 26 2013 13: 24
              Quote: silver_roman
              This is more and more like HAARP - a climate weapon.

              Quote: fzr1000
              HAARP began operating in 1997.

              "Tea, they themselves will have revolvers ..." - “Russia, in contrast to the United States, continues to develop aircraft-based anti-aircraft and anti-missile laser weapons. This was announced by the general director of the Almaz-Antey concern Vladislav Menshikov. Experiments with laser weapons were carried out in the USSR. Air defense lasers were developed as part of the Omega program. According to unofficial information, the targets were hit at an altitude of up to 40 kilometers. Weapons based on new physical principles, of course, are promising, but one must understand that the volume of research and development work will be great, notes the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko: “This is a very costly direction of weapons development from a financial point of view and military equipment. Obviously, in the next 30-40 years, anti-aircraft guided missiles will be the main means of destroying both air and ballistic targets. In the future, combat laser systems of various types of basing will be developed to repel attacks from the aerospace sphere. " http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_05_13/74575085/Гриф секретности наложен и на российские разработки в этом направлении. So, in particular, several years ago, the MLTK-50 metal cutting complex, which is designed for cutting thick-walled pipes at a distance of up to 1 kilometer, was presented to the general public. The next development of the Salyut Design Bureau was to be the Skif-Stilet device. The prefix "Stiletto" appeared in the name because they were going to install the on-board special complex (BSK) 1K11 "Stiletto" developed at NPO Astrophysics. Ground "Stiletto" was intended to disable sights and sensors of optical devices. Under conditions of cosmic vacuum, the radius of action of the rays could be significantly increased. In Russia, "as in the whole world, work is underway on a combat laser." . Formally, the "Stiletto" is still in service with the Russian army. Some experts believe that during the parade on May 9, 2005, Russia demonstrated laser guns, and not “prototypes”, but serial cars. Six combat vehicles with the removed “combat units” and “terminal devices” stood on both sides of Red Square. According to experts, these were the very “laser cannons”. It became known that Russia was developing a modern airborne combat laser in August 2009, when this was announced by Yuri Zaitsev, the current academic adviser to the Academy of Engineering Sciences of the Russian Federation . In particular, he said that in the weapons program, which was adopted and approved by the Scientific and Technical Council of the military-industrial complex, there are sections that suggest the development of a completely new type of LASER WEAPON. And not so long ago it became known about the creation of a new laser combat system based on the A-60 aircraft, which is designed to blind the enemy's optoelectronic intelligence systems. The real purpose of the laser system is unknown, but it must be recognized that this is a very real use of laser weapons.
    2. explorer
      +1
      April 26 2013 06: 33
      Or maybe everything is much simpler: what
      Drought of 1976: http://vsestihii.ru/zasuxa/zasuxa-1976-goda.html
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 06: 52
        Quote: explorer
        Or maybe everything is much simpler:
        Drought of 1976: http://vsestihii.ru/zasuxa/zasuxa-1976-goda.html

        Well, well, did people burn at once, because some of them didn’t hang out in the morning, while others had already managed to fill up with interest, while others didn’t drink water for several days because the terrible drought had evaporated all the water around?
        explorer, I was not going to convince anyone, but wrote what the participants in the events, local people, and not the press and other media spoke about, based on information from those times ...
        What times were you aware?
        Have you heard about censorship and propaganda?

        It is much easier for the blind to go where they lead, and for the deaf to understand what was tapped out by Morse code or written in the credits ...
        1. +7
          April 26 2013 08: 01
          In the bowels of the Earth, a dash is happening, but refractory metals are in a liquid state, the earth’s crust is completely saturated with combustible methane (miners know firsthand). During the reign of the Bosporus Mithridates kingdom, the Black Sea burned (scientists blame the methane emission from the bottom). Even near the Earth, a star flies, calling the Sun from which all prominences fly out in different directions almost every day, but for some reason the Earth is lucky and all the emissions fly by. When apocalyptic hysteria begins about the asteroid Apophis, who can get into the Earth after 100 years, they forget about prominences that can instantly burn the earth in minutes at any second. What do you describe, you seem to be methane emissions. If you take the unhappy HARP with its insignificant capabilities compared to the energy of at least one ordinary lightning bolt, then it was created to interfere with the navigation devices of our warheads and that’s all, although a lot is attributed to it. The only thing that mankind has been able to achieve is thermonuclear energy, with a peak in the form of the Kuz'kino mother, the rest is so nonsense that any earthly bunch can not be compared with this.
          1. ZhuDkiyDrugg
            0
            1 May 2013 13: 18
            Oh yes, another ovsky "Super-duper" pshik bully
        2. explorer
          +1
          April 26 2013 08: 12
          Quote: Tartary
          It is much easier for the blind to go where they lead, and for the deaf to understand what was tapped out by Morse code or written in the credits ...


          I offered a very real explanation: drought (high temperatures that year were all over Europe) and this could cause abnormal meteorological phenomena. request

          And even if during a thunderstorm lightning hits someone in an open field, will you see the US intrigues in this with its high-precision weapons? bully
    3. nickname 1 and 2
      +2
      April 26 2013 07: 51
      Quote: Tartary
      Thus, there was a fire of more than one house and not in one village ...
      People walking separately flashed and burned. The technique burned down together with a section of the forest in such a way that a part of it looking towards the forest "flowed" melting, while the other remained completely intact, with unburnt paint ... Nearby were found only the internal organs of people who for some reason did not have time to escape from the fire, i.e. .e. body


      You, the master - the inventor. Well, like, a fisherman is a hunter.
      Well, or those who told you - well they drank wine or moonshine! I met such inventors. Maybe you have met such?
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 08: 34
        Methane is constantly leaking through the ground, but its concentration is low and it quickly blows it away by the wind. In mines, i.e. it has the ability to accumulate cavities, which when supplied (for breathing miners) air with oxygen leads to explosions and fires. What the colleague described is similar to a strong methane emission, which, in the absence of wind, drought, etc., could well lead to the indicated phenomenon.
      2. +3
        April 26 2013 09: 25
        Quote: nick 1 and 2
        You, the master - the inventor. Well, like, a fisherman is a hunter.

        Damn ... I’ve thought it straight, can I change my nickname after your bunch, please you?

        I wrote there the truth that I would be too lazy to stopud for your comments ... And to bring a retelling of respected people for your banter on a fisherman and laughter over an inventor - all the more so ...
        Your pros / cons I do not need - neither to that place, nor to this - but have fun as you like ...

        And about I believe, I don’t believe, and about the drought from some - this is for you to S. Mikhalkov, where he has "About Foma" ...
        By the way, after reading "About Thomas", you can doubt whether the Soviet author translated this verse from the Old Flemish language ...

        As for the drought in Europe, Africa, America, etc., maybe there are cases described in my retelling from eyewitnesses? Maybe they were written about them between the lines in the press, but they were shown on the box in the 25th frame?
    4. +4
      April 26 2013 15: 31
      About ten years ago, the climate around the world went crazy. Weather anomalies began, which did not fit into any gate, not some kind of "global warming" but in general nonsense. I drew attention to this, as I remember, because the anomalies wandered around the world and somehow concentrated ... with us. And it seemed to me that it was no accident.
      And suddenly it was all over. And it ended up with a snowstorm on the US coast. In the middle of summer. In general - do not wake famously while it is quiet ...
  7. +6
    April 26 2013 06: 12
    In the whole article +, but let's remember how the Polish lancers with checkers bravely rushed at the German tanks - everyone knows the result! If now we do not compare the level of equipment and combat weapons of a soldier at least 60% to 100%, then we also remember how at 41 everyone was yelling - "Air!" and scattered in different directions! Ultimately, the battle is won not by the tank, but by its crew! But! Radar station in a platoon, excellent night vision devices, optics on the barrel, individual communications, etc. - I would like to see our soldier, not at parades, joint exercises in France and the exhibition halls of the capital !!
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 23: 47
      The article meant that you don't always need to compete and follow someone else's path, but you need to come up with your own. Take a tank with all the modern equipment and smart armor. You can try to pierce the armor and get the crew with "tricky-hard-expensive" ammunition, or you can beat it with shrapnel - so that the shell turns into a wall of balls on approach. In the second case, the tank can be taken together with the crew - it will be deaf and blind. And why then spend money on any "cool"? It is they who are printing themselves denazhki can entertain themselves with expensive wunderwaves. And how much will it cost to fight for 4 years? And in whose pocket will the income go?
  8. Svyatoslav72
    +5
    April 26 2013 06: 15
    1. With such a Government, enemies are not necessary. 2. Under these military men the USSR was lost and the Caucasian misunderstandings "triumphantly ended". 3. Under this system, there is no way out of economic dependence on the West. 4. Under the existing model of "state", ethnic balance and national potential are being lost. 5. In these conditions, gigantic masses of dough are spent on show-off and personal welfare of individual "respected" gentlemen.
    So how to fight with us? If we are not finally ditched by the Ruling Criminal-Oligarch Monarchy, then flying drones will be finished off by supporting ethnic and religious groups fighting for the "right of self-determination" and "national independence" which are now willingly funded by the Kremlin organized criminal group.
    1. +14
      April 26 2013 06: 56
      I agree, if not completely, with a significant part.
      But there is one problem. Replacing Existing
      Quote: Svyatoslav72
      Kremlin organized crime group.
      there is? Just do not shout about the existing opposition (of all stripes), they carefully coordinate all their activities with their masters who care not about Russia but about its resources. I personally do not see such a replacement, but to get the next "Gorbachevs" and "Yeltsin" as the country's managers ..... thank you.
      I emphasize once again for Putin’s haters, I myself am very cautious with the current authorities, but I don’t see a real replacement for the current president.
      Sincerely.
      1. +2
        April 26 2013 10: 52
        Duc and will not see. The current president is doing everything so that there is no alternative. At one time, this was justified when centrifugal forces grew stronger, as it is difficult to say now.
        1. -2
          April 26 2013 20: 04
          zvereok
          And how bad Pu does it? Do we have death squads? Or does he forcibly force centuries to sit in the party seats of Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky or other, even less attractive characters? Or do they personally drive the opposition into American embassies with a stick, or for reports to Congress?
      2. Svyatoslav72
        +5
        April 26 2013 15: 16
        All! just like "god's day". I won't even talk about the plywood position, half of the projects of the Kremlin Administration, as well as the "Independent" Parties. Duma, the lured herd, the "Golden Horde" of our time (also one of the successful projects in the game of democracy).
        Sure! you will not find an alternative, there are two principles of preserving the existing situation: 1. Power is not given to ANYONE and NEVER. 2. Power - It is transmitted by "inheritance" to a person (or a group of persons) ensuring the preservation of the existing order / world order.
        It follows from this that the monopolies on Power are guaranteed and cannot be changed by any methods and means.
        Now I will outline to you what it really is: -Power professes Capital-Fascism using terrorist methods in an indirect way (Humane Genocide), we create conditions, we impose rules, suppress dissidents according to the Criminal Code and the Administrative Department to the fullest, we expose our "leaders" we feed and merge "when it is necessary to" confirm or prove ". We manipulate public consciousness, simple psychological tricks, cover our actions from the "right side" (using "independent experts", publicized political scientists, or political commentators). Not everyone can be deceived, but everyone can be deceived forever.
        1. +2
          April 26 2013 19: 10
          What is "Capital-Fascism", for me, is translated as banking - Russian nationalism. In my opinion, if he is banking, then neither as Russian, if he is Russian, then as not nationalism ...
          1. Svyatoslav72
            +1
            April 27 2013 08: 09
            Capital-Fascism is a self-forming phenomenon on the parasitic desire to provide personal gain and welfare at someone else’s expense, using the internal environment (People / Government system) for itself. Capital-Fascism replaces the State-National Power and ensures external dominance using the State system for personal purposes. Not oriented and not motivated by the Nation and the State, moreover, he opposes them.
            The basic principle: Power gives Welfare, Welfare gives Power.
            It takes its base from: 1. Capitalism - the achievement of financial and political independence over the means of production (people / nation) and the environment (society / state).
            2. Fascism (itl. The word implying unification, core, total mass) is the most ancient religion based on instincts and the right of the powerful to organize their world order, to affirm their Will by any means and methods. Fascism is different: national; religious; class / caste / estate; Political; Economic.
      3. Svyatoslav72
        0
        April 26 2013 15: 16
        All! just like "god's day". I won't even talk about the plywood position, half of the projects of the Kremlin Administration, as well as the "Independent" Parties. Duma, the lured herd, the "Golden Horde" of our time (also one of the successful projects in the game of democracy).
        Sure! you will not find an alternative, there are two principles of preserving the existing situation: 1. Power is not given to ANYONE and NEVER. 2. Power - It is transmitted by "inheritance" to a person (or a group of persons) ensuring the preservation of the existing order / world order.
        It follows from this that the monopolies on Power are guaranteed and cannot be changed by any methods and means.
        Now I will outline to you what it really is: -Power professes Capital-Fascism using terrorist methods in an indirect way (Humane Genocide), we create conditions, we impose rules, suppress dissidents according to the Criminal Code and the Administrative Department to the fullest, we expose our "leaders" we feed and merge "when it is necessary to" confirm or prove ". We manipulate public consciousness, simple psychological tricks, cover our actions from the "right side" (using "independent experts", publicized political scientists, or political commentators). Not everyone can be deceived, but everyone can be deceived forever.
      4. Volkhov
        0
        April 26 2013 16: 24
        There is always a replacement - the basis of people's power foreman, selected by the primary group, then the centurion, chosen by the ten men ... and so on to the top, and the choice is open and informed.
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 18: 17
          In Libya, such a management system gave a huge glitch
        2. 0
          April 26 2013 20: 08
          Volkhov
          You mentioned the principle that exists in the sect of the Witnesses of ... and others like them, as well as the pyramids like the unforgettable brainchild of Mavrodi ..... is this an ideal system for you? Do you want to build the whole country like that? ... nu-nu ...
          1. Volkhov
            +1
            April 26 2013 21: 07
            This is how Russia was ruled historically for thousands of years and was larger (borders went along the Kuril Islands, the Chinese Wall, included India, Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey and the Danube), the failure occurred due to external aggression and an excess of discipline during the replacement of power by the enemy.
  9. Fost325
    +4
    April 26 2013 06: 17
    The article is excellent, thank you very much to Vladimir Fomin !!! I wish that in our ruling circles when making decisions they looked back at the experience of the USSR, turned on their brains on time, listened to the opinions of experts and did not fall into ambitious tantrums.
  10. +2
    April 26 2013 06: 17
    Article of the rules, though yesterday I read at the militia tongue
  11. Vanek
    +5
    April 26 2013 06: 23
    AUTHOR!!!!

    BRAVO! Yes Great article good

    Hello to everyone. hi
  12. mojohed
    -3
    April 26 2013 06: 27
    I agree with the author. But I just don’t understand why the emphasis is given precisely on the fact that, they say, Russia already has the coolest air defense and missile defense. We now have their high-tech armies - pah. Once you yourself offer to think with your head. Let's take into account that our air defense, although it is better than Libyan or Serbian there, but nevertheless - the areas of uncovered radar and air defense systems in our territory are huge. And the divisions were dismissed. Brigades, faced with the same division of the United States Marine, what will they do, with multiple superiority in manpower and equipment? Or, China is holding a huge number of troops on our border, also in the divisional composition.
    1. +6
      April 26 2013 07: 06
      Thank God that so far we have retained the draft concept of draft (sorry for the tautology) and 14 million AK-74 in warehouses. In a future war, not armies but peoples will fight. And most likely, when crossing the borders of a significant number of opponents of our country (and it’s useless to attack us with a small number, we are big), there will be a big booby with subsequent radioactive fallout around the world. And the potential aggressors are well aware of this and think that a return to the previous systems of fraud, perhaps again they will help in the collapse .... only Russia already.
      Sincerely.
      1. SIT
        +4
        April 26 2013 17: 58
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        And most likely, when crossing the borders of a significant number of opponents of our country (and it’s useless to attack us with a small number, we are big), there will be a bad big boom with subsequent radioactive fallout around the world

        They have already crossed, but there is no badabum. In Russia, 10 million. guest workers. Most are poorly educated and, to put it mildly, low-income. At the same time, they are deeply religious. Giving them a Wahhabi understanding of Islam is not a problem. They have enough weapons that are still in Chechnya and Dagestan. Not enough - tossed across transparent Central Asian borders. What is nuclear badabum against them? Where to arrange it? On Peace Avenue in Navruz Bayram?
    2. +4
      April 26 2013 08: 41
      so here the conversation goes that if something is thrown into orbit by their satellites then they will have nothing to fight, all their electronics will go out, and without it they won’t represent anything serious, besides we have a very important advantage - they’re fighting for money, and WE for the motherland!
    3. +3
      April 26 2013 13: 05
      Brigades, faced with the same division of the United States Marine, what will they do, with multiple superiority in manpower and equipment?

      The team is an administrative entity.
      But in fact with which brigade the medium and heavy are very saturated with weapons.
      Or, China is holding a huge number of troops on our border, also in the divisional composition.

      What are you saying? Give me how many troops in grams of evil Chinese who want to capture.
      Threat do not try the north of China is the least populated area. The main Chinese creeping expansion goes south.
  13. Kavtorang
    +10
    April 26 2013 06: 29
    Well article "+" for the raised issue. And what did you want - read the doctrine and scratch your turnips - How's that?
    For now it will be like this: "How is it?" Until then, there will be no intelligible fig, but there will be everything that has set the teeth on edge and has not come to a single exhaust: offhand - a Nikonov assault rifle, a T-90MS tank, an Armata combat platform, an S-400 air defense system, a S-1 "Pacir" air defense missile system, here this is madness: the MRAK for the Caspian Flotilla, but the fact that the Pacific Fleet is on its last legs driving the BOD into the Gulf of Aden, which there is absolutely no fig to do there, all in parallel - only "Urya" can shout. And to inquire in what state the same "Shaposhnikov" dragged along from the patrol and where he will go first now is not fate, not our method.
    1. Volkhov
      0
      April 26 2013 16: 29
      Strange - you are a staff officer, but you didn’t calculate the logic of actions.
  14. +4
    April 26 2013 06: 49
    The date of the beginning of the war and its character is chosen by the aggressor, if the aggressor is not Russia, then in order to prepare for war, you need to know your potential adversary, to predict counteraction to foreign aggression. If you sit now and joyfully and carefree drool from your own affection, you need to buy more hats and caps to throw them at a stupid enemy, with his ridiculous drones and other "nonsense", without taking the threat seriously. In the XX century there was a war of motors, the XXI century is preparing a war of electronic technologies, where dominance in space systems becomes decisive for victory. The article is harmful, in my opinion. It sometimes feels like that an army of fighters from the invisible front of the CIA and the US Department of State is working on our Internet resources, creating the necessary opinion, lobbying for the interests of America.
  15. +10
    April 26 2013 07: 08
    Everyone who attacked Russia, Russia, the USSR, everyone shouted that they had the most advanced army in the world. So what? Where are they all. We have something that not one science can create. Remember the fairy tale, - Here the Russian spirit, here Russia smells. So this very Russian spirit is the most terrible weapon. Good luck to all of us, and hammer on everything that is said about a bad Russian army.
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 10: 56
      Maybe once again we should have the most perfect army in the world? Put fewer guys? And then we will have more migrants + Muslims soon than Orthodox citizens.
    2. SIT
      +3
      April 26 2013 18: 05
      Quote: artist-mamluk
      So this very Russian spirit is the most terrible weapon.

      1st World 4mln.
      2nd world 27 million
      3rd world ???? million
  16. +3
    April 26 2013 07: 18
    As Comrade Stalin said back in 1935 ... a war will start suddenly. A war is not only a weapon, you can capture the country by launching the Golden Donkey, an example is Iraq and Libya. Without people, a piece of metal is an weapon, an example is Yugoslavia and Syria. The author is correct He noted that one does not have to stare at the West, one needs to look closely, but no more. This is their development path and sometimes it rests on completely different criteria. A private trader has been there for a long time, and he is not interested in the country's security, but in the loot ... exotic projects appear on fantastic amounts, the main thing is to lobby in the government ... we also have a Mace or civil SuperJet ... about nano turned for some people into a nuno for something with a negative effect.
  17. +4
    April 26 2013 07: 27
    There will be no direct war between Russia and NATO. But you can prepare for a war in the Central Asian theater. It is possible that after the withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan, all the trash from Syria will be transferred there and their "march to the north" will begin. In Uzbekistan, the US State Department has already discovered the absence of democracy. And the United States will not miss such a chance to drag Central Asia into the war.
  18. Borat
    +8
    April 26 2013 07: 36
    Well done, sensible article. I’ve been talking about this for ten years now.

    The USSR and the USA have always created fundamentally different weapons systems for fundamentally different wars:
    - on our part, this is the equipment that Uncle Petya can serve - the former groom, knee-deep in mud in tarpaulin boots, who gathered at the factory, which was hastily built outside the Urals, by the former milkmaid Aunt Dusey and managed by Vaska, yesterday’s schoolboy. And with all this, this weapon is effective precisely in such a difficult and terrible war as the Great Patriotic War.
    - from the US side, this is a product that the buyer should like - polishing, chrome, super-super characteristics. This leads to the maintenance and management of highly qualified, long-term trained specialists, special storage and operation conditions, and this equipment is produced at high-tech factories of WORLD time. The purpose of this weapon is to quickly and beautifully pile a kuzdyuli on someone weak (or better off defenseless) somewhere on the other side of the "ball".

    As for high-precision weapons - here the author was in the top ten: whoever "dirks" the space group, he piles on NATO. As for the balls in space, a nuclear charge is more effective: an electromagnetic pulse will do its job. By the way, work was carried out in the Union in this direction, for example, the MiG-33 (as it was then called) - a modification of the MiG-31, designed to destroy spacecraft (an anti-satellite missile was launched from a dynamic ceiling of 40 kilometers or more). They built two prototypes, both remained after the collapse of the USSR in Kazakhstan ...
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      +3
      April 26 2013 08: 38
      Quote: Borat
      As for high-precision weapons - here the author was in the top ten: whoever "drenches" the space group, he piles on NATO.


      We pile on anyway! Why? where will we go?
      And we can’t do it differently. Besides, we are right! The truth is ours! Yes, and there’s no way to tick ..... It’s their fault, they convinced - and THESE want our complete disappearance!
    2. 0
      April 28 2013 21: 11
      . By the way, work was carried out in the Union in this direction, for example, the MiG-33 (as it was then called) - a modification of the MiG-31 designed to destroy spacecraft (anti-satellite missiles were launched from a dynamic ceiling of 40 kilometers or more). Two prototypes were built, both remained after the collapse of the USSR in Kazakhstan ... [/ quote]
      1. 0
        April 28 2013 22: 15
        Continuing the previous quote. In 86-91. I had the honor to work in the renowned MiG Design Bureau and intersected with this topic at work. Let me give you a little clarification. The MiG-33 index did not exist then. There were three directions for the MiG-31: edition "01" (basic modification, later MiG-31B, BZ), edition "05" (improved version for work on a wider range of targets, later MiG-31M, did not reach the series ) and ed. "07" (about him and there is a speech above). As far as I remember, only 1 flight prototype was built, and they were just planning to start testing. But the yard was 91 years old ...
        At the same time and in the same place, by the way, work was still underway on the "512" topic (a promising interceptor, the cockpit layout I saw good ) and on the topic "301" (hypersound!), already riveted "1.44". But the new government said: "We don't care about that." It's a shame am !
        And the article is really sensible. As the saying goes, these words would be used in the ears of God!
  19. +2
    April 26 2013 07: 40
    The article is excellent, to the author "+". We need to develop our own, taking into account modern threats and without looking back at Western "toys". And about the F-15, did the Americans have it after Belenko hijacked the MiG-25 to Japan?
    1. 0
      April 29 2013 23: 34
      Well no. A bit earlier. But it was definitely created with an eye on the 25th.
  20. +4
    April 26 2013 07: 48
    Harmful article.
    1) The author proposes to prepare for the wars of the past. That is, in fact, to revive the Soviet army. This is fine, but in order for the Soviet army to be needed socialism, the USSR, and a planned economy. That is, we need a revolution against the existing government. And the author offers himself a contradiction protect her. And in the current conditions, reforms of Serdyukov are possible, and not the Soviet army.
    2) The author talks about the NATO invasion with hundreds of thousands of victims among the soldiers. This, excuse me, is nonsense. What is the invasion? What are the victims? If we leave aside nuclear weapons and political issues (the oligarchs / officials have children and money in the West), then-
    There will be no invasion, there will be a large-scale air operation. First, the suppression of air defense (KR, drones), then attacks on life-supporting infrastructure.
    That is, there will be no marines against which a guerrilla war can be fought. And there will be an F-15E that will strike at the Kapotnya refinery and the Moscow CHPP in winter. And after 2-3 days, a couple of millions of frozen Moscow office managers themselves will sweep away any government that does not sign surrender. Victims among NATO will be 200-300 people. That's the whole war.
    3) Among other things, the author constantly breeds myths. That about useless drones, although they have not been at war without them for 20 years. The myth about the uselessness of "stealth" that has already set the teeth on edge - how do you need to admire American technology in order to reproach them with the loss of one F- 117 for 3 wars. That about the destruction of satellites "in one fell swoop"
    In a word, a flaw.
    1. Vanek
      +2
      April 26 2013 07: 55
      In your words - alarmism. Worse than any weapon.

      Quote: Odyssey
      breeds myths


      Quote: Odyssey
      In a word, a flaw.


      It also says - Opinion of the amateur.
      1. +8
        April 26 2013 08: 20
        This is not alarmism, but an attempt at a realistic assessment. Without a hat, which is more dangerous than any "alarmist"
        1. +6
          April 26 2013 08: 58
          Let's evaluate realistically. Can anyone give an example of how a drone shot down a combat aircraft, at least in a training battle? And how did the army of drones break through enemy air defense? Most likely no. In real life, we have a low-speed aircraft, and this will continue until new hyper-speed communication channels are found. The drone is controlled by a person sitting at a great distance from the aircraft, if you increase the speed of the aircraft, then the person will see the picture with a huge delay, i.e. what the operator actually sees has not been there for a long time.
          1. 0
            April 26 2013 09: 49
            Quote: stas52
            Let's evaluate realistically. Can anyone give an example of how a drone shot down a combat aircraft
            Modern aviation began with the Wright brothers' primitive airplane that could be shot down with a slingshot, so what? You wonder, men, after all, they are not children! Above is a related article, "Why sticks and stones are dangerous to modern technology.", By Rosa Brooks. Bravo! I will allow myself to quote the author of this article, "I am not an expert on weapons and not a military man. From the point of view of the latter, I am an amateur ...", right after this passage, I recall the film
          2. +1
            April 26 2013 09: 59
            Let's evaluate realistically. How many ground targets were hit by drones? How much intelligence is received. information?
          3. +1
            April 26 2013 10: 03
            Quote: stas52
            Can anyone give an example of how a drone shot down a combat aircraft
            All modern aviation began with the primitive Wright brothers airplane, which could be shot down with a slingshot, so what? Above is a related article, "Why sticks and stones are dangerous to modern technology." By Rosa Brooks. Bravo! Why bother, develop expensive technology, in principle, a spear is also a formidable weapon. I will allow myself to quote the author of this article, "I am not an expert on weapons and not a military man. From the point of view of the latter, I am an amateur." ... Involuntarily, after this passage, I recall the film "Striped Flight" - I am the tamer. Think, men, head, not everything is as simple as we would like.
          4. +8
            April 26 2013 10: 51
            Quote: stas52
            Let's evaluate realistically. Can anyone give an example of how a drone shot down a combat aircraft, at least in a training battle?

            Why would they shoot down planes? Drone targets
            1) Intelligence and target designation. Then they are simply irreplaceable.
            2) Suppression of air defense. Here inexpensive drones are used that "wake up" the air defense, forcing it to unmask itself.
            3) Attacks on ground targets. And here they are very effective, because they save lives, are cheaper than airplanes, have a low ESR, and a very long flight duration.
            What can it be cheaper and simpler Predators (for 19 years of continuous wars in a combat situation, 15 lost, 4 of them shot down), and more expensive Ripers (7 lost in 1 years of war, 0 shot down)
            1. +3
              April 26 2013 11: 01
              In the late 80s, Israelis developed the IAI Harpy anti-radar UAV.
              Hanging over possible air defense positions. When you turn on their radar (as the Georgians did, they worked from external target designation, the radar was used only at the stage of hitting the target) it starts to work as an anti-radar missile. Dives at the target and destroys.
            2. 0
              April 26 2013 22: 12
              3) Attacks on ground targets. And here they are very effective, because they save lives, are cheaper than airplanes, have a low ESR, and a very long flight duration.

              Again, an isolated case of a successful defeat of a car with an UAV - in Iraq, with completely suppressed air defense
      2. +4
        April 26 2013 10: 35
        Quote: Vanek
        In your words - alarmism. Worse than any weapon.

        In military matters, objectivity must be maintained. Otherwise, defeat.
        Quote: Vanek
        It also says - Opinion of the amateur

        Nevertheless, he gives strategic advice. Therefore, this should be taken seriously.
        For 20 years, NATO has been fighting according to one scheme: economic sanctions — pressure (bribery) on the country's leadership and the army — suppression of air defense — destruction of infrastructure.
        And the author is still dreaming of invasions with hundreds of thousands of corpses.
        Could you learn something in 20 years?
    2. 0
      April 26 2013 22: 03
      the loss of one F-117 in 3 wars
      oh? So one? At least 3 in Iraq and 2 or 3 in Yugoslavia ... so do not bother))) As the Americans know how to underestimate their losses, we already know well from the Korean War ... hi laughing
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 22: 20
        Okay, suppose three planes are lost in Yugoslavia. For 850 sorties. I do not think that this can be called a big loss.
  21. survivor
    +1
    April 26 2013 07: 52
    I liked the article. + But ... my opinion is that Russia, just after the Yeltsin era, was simply not able to feed a large army. Here and for the layman began to sculpt a daring excuse in the form of an army performing police functions. (If anything, chasing terrorists, function VV, for this they are intended for this purpose), and the army is obliged to respond to aggression from the outside. As usual, they broke everything famously and with a whistle. Now, they began to restore it with tension and with a creak. finally it came to rule that we need those who can be ruled, and if the country is not defended, then you can, like a Jude humpback, stay outside the aisles.
  22. +2
    April 26 2013 08: 02
    As for the Buran, that the Russians allegedly copied it from the Shuttle. When they launched the Shuttle, I caught the eye of the Tekhnika Molodyozhi magazine, if memory serves, for 74 years. There was a small note about future reusable spaceships. Young type engineers propose their developments, including Yuri Gagarin's thesis, by the way. There were many options. Looking at the illustrated pictures of the proposed devices, I thought that they were copied from us. Well, although I'm not special, maybe that's why I and I still think so))
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 22: 50
      Look at the drawings and photos of the La-350 "Tempest" - that's what the Merikanitsy ripped off their shuttle from ... soldier
      But she flew !!!! Khrushchev let such a thing am
  23. +3
    April 26 2013 08: 21
    "I vaguely imagine B-2 pilots with a paper map in their hands" - presented, neighing, article + laughing
  24. nickname 1 and 2
    +1
    April 26 2013 08: 23
    Quote: Odyssey
    That is, there will be no marines against which a guerrilla war can be fought. And there will be an F-15E that will strike at the Kapotnya refinery and the Moscow CHPP in winter. And after 2-3 days, a couple of millions of frozen Moscow office managers themselves will sweep away any government that does not sign surrender. Victims among NATO will be 200-300 people. That's the whole war.


    Yeah! You're lying! Do not take it! You live in the wrong country (?)
    And we will embed at their thermal power plants and block the gas. What will happen to them ????

    Are you talking about a country in which such designers as A. Shipunov, Kalashnikov?

    Everything has already been invented and thought out.
    Where do we have backup CHP plants? Right now! I will tell ...

    And this liberals = peasants (hard workers) at one moment will tear to shreds.
    Just hang down is one defense plant! Why on defense? But because there are real specialists and a man of work, a master of his craft, a real specialist
    = always friends with the head! and not some liberal zavlekuhi not peck!

    So do not have artistic whistles about Russia! Bulk on any!
    1. +4
      April 26 2013 08: 30
      Quote: nick 1 and 2
      So do not have artistic whistles about Russia! Bulk on any!

      And how many people do you plan to lose with this cap-throwing?

      You have to pay for technological lag during the war. This thesis has been repeatedly confirmed by practice.
      1. nickname 1 and 2
        0
        April 26 2013 09: 11
        Quote: Spade
        And how many people do you plan to lose with this cap-throwing?


        So I'm talking about that anyway pile on in any situation!
        This is for those defeatist songs like where to us with a pork snout and in their NATO line.

        And, of course, I am for the best weapons with us!
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 10: 00
          Heap bulk. And we get a demographic failure, as after the Great Patriotic War.
    2. +4
      April 26 2013 10: 57
      Quote: nick 1 and 2
      Yeah! You're lying! Do not take it! You live in the wrong country (?)
      And we will embed at their thermal power plants and block the gas. What will happen to them ????

      I appreciate your mood. But in order to embed them, you must first have something to embed, and secondly, have a government ready to embed them.
      And for our government, the main thing is that they do not block accounts in the West.
      Quote: nick 1 and 2
      And this liberals = peasants (hard workers) at one moment will tear to shreds.
      Just hang down is one defense plant! Why on defense? But because there are real specialists and a man of work, a master of his craft, a real specialist

      Okst, dear. Where did you see hard workers and factories in Moscow?
      Our "market reformers" have destroyed everything long ago. Now there are offices in the factories.
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 14: 52
        Why so. Pure factories
        Moscow Refinery, Electrozavod, Moscow Electroshield Plant, Moscow Tire Plant, FSUE Salyut, VILS, Avtoframos (Renault-Logan), TMZ and MMZ "Hammer and Sickle" (still breathing), Moskabelmet, Moscow Plant of Reinforced Concrete Products and Pipes. a bunch of food industries. Pharmaceuticals, light industry (clothing, footwear, leather goods, perfumery-cosmetology, a jewelry factory, a watch factory)
        And this, not counting such "elephants" as NPO Saturn, Antey, Titan, Basalt, Altair, Pulsar. And then there is the Moscow region. Things, of course, are not going brilliantly, but they are.
  25. +2
    April 26 2013 08: 33
    Put a minus.
    The meaning of the article can be summed up in two phrases: "we will throw our caps over" and "everything is fine, beautiful marquise".

    A worthy successor to the work of the author of the film "If tomorrow is war"
    1. djon3volta
      -2
      April 26 2013 18: 23
      Quote: Spade
      The meaning of the article can be summed up in two phrases: "we will throw our caps over" and "everything is fine, beautiful marquise".

      I've already asked five times - when NATO, the United States or the Chinese will attack Russia - except for the minuses and the crap about housing and communal services, gasoline, Serdyukov, I did not receive a concrete answer, no one even wrote the approximate date of the attack.
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 18: 33
        As soon as the likely adversary decides that the pros of the war exceed the cons. Maybe tomorrow, maybe never.

        Here you have an iron door in your apartment, a good lock. Are you sure that they will try to rob you tomorrow?
    2. ZhuDkiyDrugg
      0
      1 May 2013 13: 53
      Shovels, exaggerate. negative The author suggests not to be used by the Papuans who exchanged diamonds for glass beads, but to live with their own mind! I did not notice in the article a call for a return to the archaic and hap-hacking, I noticed the call to not be like primates and stupidly lick off those / developments that are ruinous for the budget of any country (we have not yet acquired our printing dollar press), especially since there are systems (cheap) counteraction nullify all this "super high tech" lol
      I agree with the author, you need not chase Uncle Sam's new gadgets (yes, they have already lagged behind), but make your own, which have always been famous for the simplicity of solution, production and operation, allowing even citizens of banana republics to burn all this high-tech club, but if it is in the hands of a well-trained fighter will then no one have any thoughts to come to us with "shit * mocracy" !?
      This is our "Achilles' heel", an army of yesterday's schoolchildren, you give them anything, the result will be disastrous request
  26. amp
    amp
    +2
    April 26 2013 08: 38
    What other droids?
    The drone in English is called a drone (drone) and not a droid.
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 15: 02
      Droids are from Star War.
  27. +7
    April 26 2013 08: 42
    To the author +!
    But the topic of drones is already turning into an inferiority complex in our country. Do not forget that the "high-tech" US military machine relies on the existing civilian infrastructure in peacetime (communications, GPS, logistics), and it is vulnerable. UAVs are serviced by manufacturers, which means they are not as easy to operate as they claim, and really mass use is in question. Russia's "lagging behind" in "unmanned" technologies is mainly the result of a PR campaign based on the substitution of the concepts of UAV (unmanned, i.e. autonomous, independently performing aircraft tasks) and RPV (remotely piloted, i.e. controlled through a communication channel by a pilot , LA). On the first, we have no problems: "Buran", "Ganit" (autonomous unmanned attack aircraft with the possibility of group actions) and figs with what we do not produce, the "mathematics" from them has not gone anywhere. The US Army mainly has various RPVs (sometimes partially autonomous). There is a difference?smile
    Our main problem is to equip the troops with cheap tactical-level UAVs (platoon, company), but it can also be solved (Chinese RU model for 5-10t. + Smartphone for 5-10t. + Blue electrical tape + 1MB of program code), all matter in desire.
    IMHO
  28. +8
    April 26 2013 09: 02
    An interesting look from the author. And most importantly, bold, not curtained and not devoid of rational grain. I liked his approach to the question (this is exactly) and partially the solution of the question itself.

    Yes, throw a stick at some satellites and GPS navigation of aviation, cruise missiles, high-precision bombs and control of drones will be covered with a copper basin along with satellite communications of command and control, depriving the advantages of the high-tech side in a military conflict.
    Back in the beginning of the 90, we examined the case during exercises in the GBV, when a tank battalion could not find itself for a while under a charge from electronic warfare, and not just fulfill the task in connection with the loss of communication in the VHF range.
    I recall how I studied the first modification of the T-72 with an optical rangefinder and a mechanical (!!!) ballistic computer in the LMS. It seemed like an anachronism. However, only such a technique will win the war with supermachines by depriving it of a satellite umbrella and scoring its electronics with an electromagnetic pulse.
    I liked this in the article: if you can’t create a drone at the moment, think of how to neutralize it.

    But, in fairness, we must admit that they did this in the USSR as well (creating a counterbalance and not copying): against NATO aviation, considerable attention was paid to the development of air defense systems, and against AUG they created the 949 project. How effective this was was another matter.

    Well, completely abandoning the development of science and technology in the latest issues of weapons is also not worth it. You cannot rush from one extreme to another. The same unmanned aircraft will appear anyway, and there is no way to lag behind in this matter.
    Everything should be consistent, comprehensive and feasible financially, with breakthrough impulses where it turns out. The same Shipunov, a deep bow to him, at one time put on the ears with his developments both a potential adversary and generals in his Fatherland.

    Plus to the author for honesty (honestly said that he was not a fighter, he did not fint) and for the courage of quite reasonable reasoning. But no more than that.
  29. nickname 1 and 2
    +2
    April 26 2013 09: 05
    Article +++
    Just not right in one thing = you cannot construct something without studying the experience of others. Studying - you study. The work of thought.
    Buy (or steal) torn apart, make a similar experience, understand the shortcomings and find the best solution. This is ours! And after such "feats" a fundamentally new one is born. This is how Shipunov, Kalashnikov and others grew up.
    But perhaps the author has a small oversight.




    Quote: JIaIIoTb
    I emphasize once again for Putin’s haters, I myself am very cautious with the current authorities, but I don’t see a real replacement for the current president.
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      0
      April 26 2013 09: 32
      Quote: nick 1 and 2
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      I emphasize once again for Putin’s haters, I myself am very cautious with the current authorities, but I don’t see a real replacement for the current president.



      And it is TRUE!
  30. +3
    April 26 2013 09: 12
    To the author plus. I agree completely, it's time to stop repeating after others. Necessary look what is there, and do everything in your own way. Perhaps taking the best ideas from there - adding them already in your own way. Then Great Russia will be.
  31. +3
    April 26 2013 09: 12
    Quote: Ruslan67
    They are trying diligently to convince us that in the 21st century everyone will fight exclusively with small professional armies with the wide use of precision and unmanned weapons. There is only one question: if they deploy a couple of classic tank armies against them, what will they do - scream that now no one is fighting? wassat

    Great comment! Only it will remain to scream to them. Fighting in small groups is good where there are no large ones)))
    1. Roll
      +5
      April 26 2013 10: 28
      They tried in Iraq, and Syria also attacked with large tank connections, the Jevilins and in-52 with homing cluster bombs destroyed these tank connections at once and without loss.
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 23: 02
        Let’s just not forget about the suppressed air defense of Iraq (on the instructions of Gorbi, Shevarnadze handed over the jamming codes to the amers) ... With the current air defense, they would have been so free to fly there ... And it wasn’t without losses from NATa ... And in Syria, what are you writing about (B-52 and Jewels and the mass use of BTT) was not ...
  32. Leroy
    0
    April 26 2013 09: 31
    In general, I agree.
  33. 0
    April 26 2013 09: 36
    Article + completely agree with the author! Without a satellite grouping, the NATO army (USA) is not combat ready!
  34. 0
    April 26 2013 09: 42
    The author writes everything correctly, and the armament is now in the war 41-45, yes, even Afghanistan is not so far that it can do one many target aircraft, everyone understands that cities with a population of up to 10 thousand will simply not be a unit.
    One aspect also seems important to me, no less technical.
    Spirit, training in action in war conditions ... it is very important, which is simply not there so far.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 22: 04
      Quote: dark_65
      All the author writes correctly, and the armament is now in the war 41-45, yes, even Afghanistan is not so far that it can make one many target aircraft, everyone understands that cities with a population of up to 10 thousand will simply not be a unit.
      One aspect also seems important to me, no less technical.
      Spirit, training in action in war conditions ... it is very important, which is simply not there so far.

      It's a delusion! Without nuclear weapons, even a small city must be bombarded long and hard.
  35. +3
    April 26 2013 09: 44
    Modern warfare is a struggle for man. Clausewitz wrote that it was not necessary to destroy the enemy, it was enough to crush him morally. Modern weapons are technologies for manipulating public opinion. Moreover, our enemies begin to influence the consciousness and introduce certain attitudes into it from a very young age, they hit the consciousness of children as the most vulnerable to suggestion. Films, ads, clips - they seem to be safe, but these are all carriers of malicious information.
    The article has many sound ideas, it does not need an excessive amount of weapons, it is enough to inflict unacceptable damage on the enemy. But, I do not agree that we need to abandon advanced research - in the field of high technology, we must at least keep up.
  36. +4
    April 26 2013 09: 56
    Good article.
    I note that no matter what super-duper weapon is used - until the soldier’s foot sets foot on the enemy’s land - the enemy is considered to be alive, healthy and sovereign.
    Those. Japan’s atomic bombing was a damn thing to her. Until Soviet troops arrived in Harbin and other cities. And all the business.
    To whom, of course. But all this high-tech mutota only works in the environment of the same .. high-tech mutota.
    A comparison of microwaves and the F-117 is a pretty good example.
    The lack of anti-tank weapons in 1941 was famously replaced by "Molotov cocktails" - cheap products.
    Mikhail Panikakha, who burned out when using such a "cocktail" - but, TOGETHER, with a German tank. Advertising slogan - Calculate for yourself - how much does the operation of the tank cost and how much M. Panikakha cost with a bottle of mixture.
    Eternal memory to the Brave!
    ...
    The answer to SDI didn't even include "balls of steel" in space. It was enough to fill the UNION - gravelhow much he could put into orbit. The result would be the same.
    At about the same time, Brezhnev announced the creation of an "occological weapon" in the USSR. Does anyone remember this now?
    But weapons exist. This is an answer to Tartary’s remarks about flare ups in the taiga.
    At least it lays down very easily.
    ...
    "There is no prophet in his own country" - we did not say.
    And all this reasoning about compliance with high technology .... so, ha, who refuses? Let's develop.
    In your own way. Totally agree.
    I myself was always amused by the "boyish" conversations - at my "wheelbarrow" I covered the steering wheel with Bidarmot leather. And I pumped the wheels with nitrogen. Nitrogen is bullshit, I was pumped with argon - this is Vesch!
    And I covered the floors with larch of radial saw cut from Mauritania !!!!
    What? Have you ever heard such a thing?
    Why then do you think - that our Generals are not the same "boys" ???
    1. +3
      April 26 2013 10: 31
      Quote: Igarr
      Those. Japan’s atomic bombing was a damn thing to her.

      Yeah, they just surrendered. Speaking of Harbin. He was taken 8 days after Japan officially announced its readiness to accept the Potsdam terms of surrender. That is why 120 paratroopers were able to capture 40 thousand. Japanese grouping

      Quote: Igarr
      The lack of anti-tank weapons in 1941 was famously replaced by "Molotov cocktails" - cheap products.

      And the lives of the soldiers. It seems to some penny too

      Quote: Igarr
      The answer to SDI didn't even include "balls of steel" in space. It was enough to fill the SOYUZ with gravel as much as it could carry into orbit. The result would be the same.

      Did you teach astronomy at school? And physics? How many "Unions" are needed to launch against the rotation of the earth so much gravel that it will be able to hit global positioning satellites protected from micrometeorites in high orbits and communication satellites at geostations? And how idiotic were our designers who developed killer satellites and anti-satellite missiles?

      Quote: Igarr
      Why then do you think - that our Generals are not the same "boys" ???

      Or maybe they, now, understand that they have to pay in blood for technological lag? As in your example with "Molotov cocktails". Maybe they understand that the thesis "and women still give birth" is not for us?
      1. +2
        April 26 2013 11: 25
        Mr. Lopatov ...
        I carefully read your remarks.
        Thank you.
        Very entertaining.
        1. 0
          April 26 2013 22: 13
          I feel ... no one understood your joke ... "to run against the rotation of the earth so much .."
          ..
          Yes, and it looks like ... You, Mr. Lyapyatov ... yourself think that the launch vehicles are moving on the ROTATION of the Earth ...
          Eeeeee?

          ..
          So what?
          It characterizes well .... opponents.
          Let ... THEM !!!
          1. 0
            April 26 2013 22: 31
            Quote: Igarr
            It characterizes well .... opponents.

            Exactly. Here you are the humanist.
            Because you do not know that the energy consumption when placing the payload into orbit against the rotation of the earth is significantly higher than the energy consumption during the launching by rotation, and therefore your gravel "Soyuz" could take significantly less.
            Well, because you do not see a significant difference between missiles flying along a ballistic trajectory and missiles that launch a payload into orbit.
            1. 0
              April 28 2013 20: 38
              For your information, I graduated from the Higher Marine Engineering Institute.
              Now the academy is called - BFFSA.
              Oh, about the energy costs ... and the rotations of the Earth ...
              Why do ballistic missiles launch along vertical paths?
              And winged - by .. aerodynamic?
              And which category of missiles carries more payload? What is considered useful?
              They never wondered how the body behaves ... under its own TRAIGHT?
              And reproach me with ignorance of physics.
              Themselves ... the three laws of Newton would have studied ... first.
              Theorists ....... Fausts ...
      2. +2
        April 26 2013 22: 35
        Quote: Spade
        Yeah, they just surrendered.

        On August 9, at an emergency meeting of the Supreme Council for War Management, Japanese Prime Minister Suzuki said:
        "The entry of the Soviet Union into the war this morning puts us completely in a hopeless position and makes it impossible for the further continuation of the war."

        February 4 - February 11, 1945 - Yalta Conference. The Allies agree on a post-war world order, including in the Asia-Pacific region. The USSR undertakes to enter the war with Japan no later than 3 months after the defeat of Germany.
        April 5 - denunciation of the USSR neutrality pact between the USSR and Japan.
        May 15 - Japan cancels all treaties and alliance with Germany in connection with its surrender.
        June 1945 - Japan begins preparations for repulsing a landing on the Japanese islands.
        July 12 - The Japanese ambassador in Moscow turns to the USSR with a request for mediation in peace negotiations. On July 13, he was informed that no answer could be given in connection with the departure of Stalin and Molotov to Potsdam.
        July 17 - August 2 - Potsdam Conference. The USSR reaffirms its commitment to enter the war with Japan no later than 3 months after the surrender of Germany (Stalin believes that this happened only on May 8).
        July 26 - The United States, Great Britain and China, fighting with Japan, formally formulate the conditions for surrender of Japan in the Potsdam Declaration. Japan refuses to accept them.
        August 6 - US nuclear strike on Japan.
        August 8 - The USSR declared to the Japanese ambassador about joining the Potsdam Declaration and declared war on Japan.
        August 9 - at dawn, the USSR began military operations in Manchuria.
        August 9 - in the morning, the second US nuclear strike against Japan.
        August 10 - Japan officially declares its readiness to accept the Potsdam terms of surrender, with the reservation regarding the preservation of the structure of imperial power in the country.
        August 11 - The US rejects the Japanese amendment, insisting on the formula of the Potsdam Declaration.
        August 14 - Japan officially accepts the terms of unconditional surrender and informs the Allies.
        September 2 - The signing of the Surrender Act of Japan.

        From August 17, the mass surrender of Japanese troops began. To accelerate their surrender, a number of large cities, including Harbin, Jilin and Heijo, landed with airborne assaults from August 18 to 24. In addition, strong mobile detachments were created to capture important industrial centers, which should have prevented the Japanese from exporting or destroying material assets with swift action.
        Despite the fact that the organized resistance of the Japanese troops was broken, their individual groups, remaining completely cut off from the main forces, continued to fight. However, they were soon destroyed or captured.

        Hi Igor.
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 22: 47
          A vivid example of how this was presented by Soviet textbooks. The fact that by this time Japan no longer had industry and was completely blocked is somehow overlooked.
          1. +1
            April 26 2013 23: 09
            Well, yes))) That's allies with the Japanese were planning to butt until the age of 47, and the Kwantung army just sat in Manchuria - they actually drove resources to Japan from China, if you do not know ....
            1. 0
              April 26 2013 23: 40
              Another quote from Soviet textbooks?
              It remains to figure out how it was possible to drive resources (probably a tunnel?) And why (industry was already destroyed by the Americans)
              1. 0
                April 26 2013 23: 58
                Og, and the Japanese merchant fleet immediately drowned in the East China Sea, and moreover))))) And when did they destroy the American industry? Probably Doolittle's raid? laughing
                Py.sy. My quote to Soviet textbooks has nothing to do, I'm interested - I'm looking for information on a topic of interest ... hi
                1. 0
                  April 27 2013 00: 02
                  Quote: Raven1972
                  Oga, and the Japanese fleet merged at once drowned in the East China Sea, moreover)))))

                  Not myself, the Americans helped.
                  1. +1
                    April 27 2013 00: 12
                    Amer to 44g. they didn’t come close to Japan itself, and even in the Sea of ​​Japan they weren’t there anymore (I confess I was wrong with the seas recourse ) So through Wonsan and Chanjin, the supply went quite calmly ...
          2. ZhuDkiyDrugg
            0
            1 May 2013 14: 07
            On the continent "completely blocked" ??? feel
        2. +1
          April 27 2013 14: 56
          My father talked about that war: after the surrender, the Japanese completely slaughtered our rear hospitals. It turns out that they were hiding underground in secret bunkers and were armed to the teeth: there were light tanks and even aircraft with folding wings!
  37. -2
    April 26 2013 09: 56
    I have already spoken out on a similar topic. Once again, the "Universal Platform" for a variety of armored vehicles (tanks, armored personnel carriers, etc.) is another American lafa, which they launched so that in Russia, by the inertia of the old thinking, they would also start throwing money on the development of "such same, but more "nonsense. Why ... do you need to create the same chassis for cars with different weight characteristics?
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 10: 33
      Do you think that the weight characteristics of the tank, self-propelled guns and some kind of IMR are very different?
    2. +3
      April 26 2013 11: 36
      Hrad, purely for reference, as a designer, I will say: The same chassis is needed to reduce the cost of production, reduce maintenance costs, organize conveyor production, simplify supply and repair in peacetime and in war. Of course, landing equipment does not count.
    3. 0
      April 26 2013 11: 51
      Quote: hrad
      Do you need to create the same undercarriage for machines with different weight characteristics?
      It will not be the same! Three different platforms are created! hi
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 12: 02
        On the contrary, the platform is one, but there will be different .. not .. different "content".
  38. Roll
    +1
    April 26 2013 10: 14
    request The author’s opinion is really amateurish, containers with balls, and the author -> author -> the author even imagines distances in space, you can’t get more than one lower satellite, a vigorous explosion in space is ineffective, and the electronics are reliably protected, the war is of two decent armies will be conducted by small strike groups, where one professional soldier will kill dozens of mobilized ones. (see Iraq) UAVs will be effective in the second stage of the war when the fighters are destroyed, or the author -> author -> the author thinks that we will be thousands of them in the Second World War release. Then the author -> author -> the author at least understands how to mobilize a soldier for Russia now, most of the conscripts jump into their jeeps and scatter through the forests and dachas. Amer unfortunately do everything right, but we don’t, we are preparing for some kind of trench warfare, but it won’t exist. Even there will be no occupation.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 11: 29
      Rolm, why cling to words? You could say that you would put a large fly swatter into orbit and spank satellites with it, so what? Would you criticize a fly swatter? The point is in principle! What about your version of a possible war, so where did it all come from? That's right: also from the head and also just a guess. Admiral Makarov said that armadillos were built not for naval battles, but to demonstrate the power of the state. It seems to me that enough has already been built to demonstrate the power of Russia.
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 11: 38
        Russia is only going to resume work on anti-satellite missiles. And nothing cheap, each will cost something like a modern combat aircraft. Not to mention the whole complex, including detection and guidance, upgraded for this MiG-31.
    2. 0
      April 26 2013 22: 26
      Let's launch one ball and in two hundred quadrillion years, according to the theory of probability, it will hit all the satellites in all orbits around the Earth.
    3. 0
      April 26 2013 22: 43
      The author's opinion is really amateurish, containers with balls, and the author -> the author -> the author at least imagines the distances in space, more than one satellite from the bottom that you can't bring out, a vigorous explosion in space is ineffective.

      Interesting opinion. And at the expense of amateurishness, read this
      http://www.armscontrol.ru/course/lectures04a/apb040317.htm
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 23: 02
        And where is there about the "balls"? Have not found.
    4. 0
      April 26 2013 23: 19
      Rolm, how many damaging factors of nuclear weapons do you know? Have you heard about EMP? I see that it’s not, they’re unlikely to be taught this right now ... Next - imagine the action of a steel ball moving at a speed of 7.8-11.2 KM / s - it will pierce ANY armor !!!!!!!!
      most of the recruits jump into their jeeps and scatter through the forests and summer cottages.

      But I won’t go anywhere, they taught me a lot of things in the army, for example, that scrap in a caterpillar stops ANY tank, and I still haven’t forgotten how to shoot ... So do not judge others by yourself)))
  39. +2
    April 26 2013 10: 14
    And yesterday I fell asleep dreaming about gremlins made in Rusnano, who, having made their way into the exhaust pipe of an abrams, disable the engine, about robotic grenades hanging on the unloadings of our paratroopers, which, after a throw in flight, turn on the engine and chase after the terrorists. About BMD-based drones that have refueled from a BMD tank, take off and transmit intelligence to it direct missiles at the enemy and grumble at the adversary, then, landing near the BMD, refuel And again into battle. And when everything is bad. BMD is placed in autonomous mode, shelling the enemy and covering the withdrawal of personnel on the armor of other vehicles.
  40. Roll
    +2
    April 26 2013 10: 23
    bully Then everyone was fixated on an unacceptable damage, The charm of a buck in the brain is felt, and if a third force provokes a war for which the destruction of all the basic states and 5 billion is the goal, then it is not an acceptable damage. But in another way to create a world government, a golden billion and not save civilization will work out. that’s the thing.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 23: 28
      So that's the trick to make the damage unacceptable to them !!! They really value and respect their life ... soldier
  41. +3
    April 26 2013 10: 36
    Dreamers .... about the correctness of the Americans ...
    Rusnano’s 2,5 billion loss is nanobots ... in the nanosuploads of our nanosized conscripts, who by no means nano-jeeps sit in gigantic tasks.
    The war, whatever it will be won - by People! By human standards.
    He came, put in the stars, robbed, raped. Approved!
    Then - He left. If it is - We.
    ...
    And all the others - they just won’t be able to come.
    I’m standing on that.
    1. +2
      April 26 2013 11: 13
      People are very difficult, they need to be thought and taken care of. This is not for our government. I don’t know in my city a single bomb shelter. In the city where I work, I know one thing - there is now a bar.
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 11: 44
        "People are very difficult .." - bravo.
        Good point.
        Why bomb shelters?
        Here is a strange impression. The Terminator movie is a practical guide to fighting cybers. There are also bomb shelters from the terminators.
        The film "The Matrix" - again ... man conquers the space of artificial intelligence.
        The film "Predator" with the same Schwarzenegger. Need to comment?
        Americans what? Set out to plant - the Great, the Eternal, the Human?
        According to Freud, they themselves are afraid of causing ... the hands of Man.
        But in fact - worse than Man - there is no beast.
        And no one there, a cybernetic berserker drone, and did not lie next.
        Free will is an irresistible thing.
        And if it’s also warmed up with alcohol - in general, at least take out the saints.
        1. +2
          April 26 2013 11: 50
          And if it’s also warmed up with alcohol - in general, at least take out the saints.

          Speak the truth!
        2. Roll
          0
          April 26 2013 15: 31
          The very idea in the film is a sophisticated terminator. Why make a terminator look like a person when there were always traitors among people. And why are people so suddenly divided, terminators against people, much more correct is one shobla of people with terminators, against the same one. Yes, and reprogramming the terminator, as simple as skipping the Windows terminators. I don't want to reprogram. It’s easier to reprogram a person, the experience of the KGB or the CIA is sufficient.
          1. +1
            April 26 2013 23: 12
            Misha ... Michael, Rolm ...
            Well, actually ... are we going to discuss the theory of films, or something?
            Of course not...
            You got sick ... with such questions .. ".. Why make the terminator look like a human .."
            ...
            There are no other examples .... a more terrible instrument of the Lord ....
            How do you want to treat !!!!
            More terrible than Human is not invented yet ... Weapons!
            And all business.
            For the glory of God ....
            ...
            ..
            ..
            but for the especially dull .. add ... FREE WILL ...
            ...
            The Lord himself did not suspect .. which Demon he set free.
  42. warm
    +3
    April 26 2013 11: 10
    for writing such articles, and especially any far-reaching conclusions, it is extremely important to read the materiel, and not the Ura-ops Murzil!
    because after hearing such nonsense:
    There is no need to go far for examples. When all NATO piled on a small, defenseless Yugoslavia, the Serbs with the help of microwaves induced F-117 to the false targets and beat them down with the 125-based air defense missile system, created in the 1961 year.

    and not knowing that this is the only case on 3000 !!! F-117 sorties, you can write any nonsense - it will be far from reality.

    And the winner is not the one who uses high-precision weapons, but the one who can quickly and safely destroy the enemy’s satellite constellation - without it, all these systems turn into a pile of metal (I vaguely imagine V-2 pilots with a paper map in their hands).

    what the author fantasizes for himself is his problems, but US pilots have on their overalls a special pocket (on the thigh) for special paper cards;)

    you also need to study at least a little the weapons of a potential adversary - and suddenly it turns out that satellite guidance is only one of the guidance systems of the RC and other things, and without it the RC perfectly reaches the target and destroys it!

    Well, in the end - INFORMATION, information exchange - this is a 90% victory of the NATO armies in any conflict. and neither the Russian Federation nor China can compete with the Americans in collecting, processing and displaying the necessary information to end users (CIUS). but the Chinese will probably reach the level of the USA in 10-20 years ...
    1. +4
      April 26 2013 11: 49
      and not knowing that this is the only case on 3000 !!! F-117 sorties, you can write any nonsense - it will be far from reality.

      The reality is that the Americans, believing in the invulnerability of the F-117, flew along several permanent routes. What Colonel Zoltan took advantage of. And in his position, when the NATO Air Force owns the sky, it was very difficult to do and yet it turned out. About 3000 sorties ... yeah ... heroes ... at night, bombing the residential areas of the city with phosphor bombs, having carried out almost all of the air defense tomahawks. Geniuses !!!
      but US pilots have on their overalls a special pocket (on the hip) for special paper cards

      Come on??? And we thought they were holding cards on iPads.
      this is 90% victory of the NATO armies in any conflict. and neither the Russian Federation nor China can compete with the Americans in collecting, processing and displaying the necessary information to end users (CIUS).

      No, not in the processing and output of information, but in the brainwashing, deception and disregard for others! They really have no equal!
      but the Chinese in years through 10-20 will probably reach the level of the USA ...

      But Russia will not work? Or is it not indicated in the training manual?
      1. -1
        April 26 2013 12: 04
        Quote: Wedmak
        But Russia will not work? Or is it not indicated in the training manual?

        More such articles justifying our technological lag in the military sphere will not work.
      2. warm
        -1
        April 26 2013 12: 12
        Quote: Wedmak
        Geniuses !!!

        why are you spraying your saliva !?
        yourself not funny? on the 1st downed F-117 to draw such far-reaching conclusions?
        I will not even ask about your assessment of the 888 war ...

        Quote: Wedmak
        About 3000 sorties ... yeah ... heroes ... at night, bombing the residential areas of the city with phosphor bombs, having carried out almost all of the air defense tomahawks.

        I will probably surprise you terribly - this is taught absolutely in all military academies! in conscience / Russian, for example, they teach nuclear weapons to destroy entire peaceful cities ...

        Quote: Wedmak
        No, not in the processing and output of information, but in the brainwashing, deception and disregard for others! They really have no equal!

        do not read the uraopov press at night, but rather study the materiel! so that there were no shameful "ambushes" of the army commanders.
        Yes, and long ago specially trained people understood and use propaganda weapons, as we see in the examples of the USSR, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria - it is very effective!
        but there’s a small BUT - for (your country) it’s necessary not only to rename the police into policemen ...

        Quote: Wedmak
        But Russia will not work? Or is it not indicated in the training manual?

        so I watched the Manual - in the plans of the Tsar (GDP) this is not ...
        http://topwar.ru/27303-288-minut-s-vladimirom-putinym-kto-sachok-a-kto-razduvaet

        -zhabry.html
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 13: 40
          on the 1-th downed F-117 to draw such far-reaching conclusions?

          And here far-reaching conclusions? This is a great example of meeting different technology levels.
          I will probably surprise you terribly - this is taught absolutely in all military academies! in conscience / Russian, for example, they teach nuclear weapons to destroy entire peaceful cities ...

          And where does the nuclear weapons? In fact, incendiary bombs, like cluster bombs, are prohibited. It is clear that neither the USA nor Russia have ratified this treaty, but we must completely get rid of our conscience in order to sprinkle the CITY with such bombs! Knowing full well what consequences this threatens.
          and better study materiel

          I haven’t seen anything relevant from you regarding the facts.
          but as we see in the examples of the USSR, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria - it’s very effective!

          wow it’s necessary not only to rename the police into policemen ...

          in the plans of the Tsar (GDP) this is not ...

          But the stinging remarks addressed to countries and people who have at least something opposed the United States and its hangers-on - a whole wagon!
          1. warm
            +1
            April 26 2013 13: 52
            Quote: Wedmak
            And here far-reaching conclusions? This is a great example of meeting different technology levels.

            and as you can see, more advanced technologies did everything they wanted;)

            Quote: Wedmak
            In fact, incendiary bombs, like cluster bombs, are prohibited. It’s clear that neither the United States nor Russia have ratified this treaty,

            Well, why is vine then?

            Quote: Wedmak
            but one must completely get rid of conscience in order to sprinkle with such bombs the CITY!

            as well as hiding behind the backs of "civilians", isn't it?

            Quote: Wedmak
            Knowing full well what consequences this threatens.

            and what?

            Quote: Wedmak
            But the stinging remarks addressed to countries and people who have at least something opposed the United States and its hangers-on - a whole wagon!

            Something you already quite carried in the bushes? I certainly understand that when there is essentially nothing to answer - it is necessary to go over to the personality of the opponent and blame him for something - for example, unpatriotism, stupidity, insult Russian Russians and more. but this is an unworthy occupation for a man, and shows you in all its glory ...

            ps are those same people who equip themselves with a comfortable life in England, working in the government of the Russian Federation? or those who officially rolls government money
            In Cyprus?

            pps tell me, and the fact that the daughters of GDP live in Germany and the Netherlands - is this, a contrast between the US and the hangers-on?
            1. 0
              April 26 2013 14: 10
              and as you can see, more advanced technologies did everything they wanted;)

              Well, yes, stupidly overwhelmed by the number of tomahawks. As a result, the truth turned out that the praised efficiency of the F-117 is very low and does not correspond to the costs of its maintenance. The planes were decommissioned. Everything.
              as well as hiding behind the backs of "civilians", isn't it?

              Who was hiding behind the backs of civilians? Facts in the studio.
              and what?

              That is, numerous city fires, burns of civilians, these are not consequences. Weapons working by area cannot be used in the city! This is genocide!
              Something you already quite carried in the bushes?

              Me? No, it didn’t. I just pointed you to your favorite sayings.
              and shows you in all its glory ...

              He did not blame or insult anyone. Especially you now.

              ps are those same people who equip themselves with a comfortable life in England, working in the government of the Russian Federation? or those who officially rolls government money
              In Cyprus?

              In England? There is no such country, there is Great Britain. And people ... Berezovsky or what? Well, yes, he already arranged himself, .. Or Gorbachev? The USSR collapsed and is now giving lectures, and even trying to indicate how we can live on! New Russians who stole in the 90 and stuffed their millions into Cyprus? So they were cleansed by the very democratic and liberal lights of Europe, which they worshiped.
              And what kind of government money are you talking about, I do not know.

              pps tell me, and the fact that the daughters of GDP live in Germany and the Netherlands - is this, a contrast between the US and the hangers-on?

              Opposition ??? Do not make people laugh. Should a father indicate what and how to do or not do his adult children? His concern is to learn them and put them on their feet. Everything. Further under its own power.
              1. +2
                April 26 2013 14: 29
                Well, yes, stupidly overwhelmed by the number of tomahawks

                Not only did EW and AWACS and U operate very clearly there. BUT in fact, Aviation was not able to damage the ground forces of the Serbs.
                Who was hiding behind the backs of civilians? Facts in the studio.

                Muslims constantly
                pps tell me, and the fact that the daughters of GDP live in Germany and the Netherlands - is this, a contrast between the US and the hangers-on?

                Do you have One's strong evidence?
                1. 0
                  April 26 2013 14: 33
                  Muslims constantly

                  leon-iv, well, where are the Serbs and where are the muslims. You do not compare. Yet in Yugoslavia, the US Air Force did not kill ... musliks at all.
                2. warm
                  0
                  April 26 2013 14: 53
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  Do you have One's strong evidence?

                  I do not have. but there was no refutation of this ...
                  1. +2
                    April 26 2013 15: 01
                    I do not have. but there was no refutation of this ...

                    mdya harsh, I think you should not trust the OBS agency
                    maybe you are jealous that Putin Kabaeva revels?
                    Once, Stalin was informed that Marshal Rokossovsky had a lover, and this was the famous beauty actress Valentina Serova. And, they say, what will we do with them now? Stalin took a pipe from his mouth, thought a little and said:
                    - Like budem, like budem ... envy budem!
                    1. warm
                      0
                      April 26 2013 15: 05
                      so what is the problem for the GDP to come out and say: "my daughters live in the Russian Federation!"?
                      only then will you get a citizen of a lie ...
                      1. 0
                        April 26 2013 15: 15
                        so what is the problem for the GDP to come out and say: "my daughters live in the Russian Federation!"?

                        Why does he need this? That would be on a straight line would ask this question what. Yes, and if I were in his place, this question would not even have been noticed. He already has time in minutes.
                      2. warm
                        0
                        April 26 2013 15: 28
                        Quote: leon-iv
                        Why does he need this?

                        well, if you don't understand why the president of an "independent" country needs this ...

                        Quote: leon-iv
                        That would be on a straight line would ask this question what

                        laughing
                    2. warm
                      0
                      April 26 2013 15: 36
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      Once they reported to Stalin,

                      But Stalin could also send his children "to study" in England, Germany, "to live" in Switzerland, the USA ... but for some reason he didn't?
                      1. 0
                        April 26 2013 15: 42
                        But Stalin could also send his children "to study" in England, Germany, "to live" in Switzerland, the USA ... but for some reason he didn't?

                        You’ll ask Stalin ... When you meet.
              2. warm
                0
                April 26 2013 14: 50
                Quote: Wedmak
                Well, yes, stupidly overwhelmed by the number of tomahawks. As a result, the truth turned out that the praised efficiency of the F-117 is very low and does not correspond to the costs of its maintenance. The planes were decommissioned. Everything.

                Well, of course, as you say! It’s nonsense, of course, that the F-117 went through 2 more Iraqi wars, and were decommissioned only after the F-22 entered service ...

                Quote: Wedmak
                Who was hiding behind the backs of civilians? Facts in the studio.

                for example, infrastructure nodes - communication for example;)
                but I have already said - learn materiel, not agitation.

                Quote: Wedmak
                That is, numerous city fires, burns of civilians, these are not consequences. Weapons working by area cannot be used in the city!

                that you want not to use it is understandable. Do not share information how much, when and where the phosphorus bombs were dropped?

                Quote: Wedmak
                He didn’t blame anyone

                Quote: Wedmak
                But the stinging remarks addressed to countries and people who at least something opposed

                not yours

                Quote: Wedmak
                In England? There is no such country

                ooooh, how it goes ...

                Quote: Wedmak
                And people

                But Cho, Shuvalov is no longer a man? not, I understand, now dispersal will go about the fact that the apartments for papers do not belong to him, but to his wife ...

                Quote: Wedmak
                And what kind of government money are you talking about, I do not know.

                First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government Igor Shuvalov, speaking on the TV program Sunday Night with Vladimir Solovyov on the Rossiya Channel, made it clear that Russia did not intend to help Cyprus. In case of loss of money in Cypriot banks, the Russian authorities will only help state-owned companies,

                AvtoVAZ, Sovcomflot for example

                Quote: Wedmak
                Should a father indicate what and how to do or not do his adult children? His concern is to learn them and put them on their feet.

                it’s all good and right when dad is not in the public service. and even more so not the president / prime minister ...

                Quote: Wedmak
                All. Further under its own power.

                and what will a loving parent be ready for her daughter / granddaughter to do when they find 100 kg of heroin in the bedroom under the pillow?
                1. +1
                  April 26 2013 15: 04
                  It’s nonsense, of course, that the F-117 went through 2 more Iraqi wars, and were decommissioned only after the F-22 entered service ...

                  tin juice Mosk. A goblin is a crooked drummer. While the F-22 is a good interceptor, it’s almost a castrate on the ground. The current to the external suspension is to cling to, then why drive it.
                  for example, infrastructure nodes - communication for example;)

                  Oga, the Chinese Embassy was nearby)))
                2. +1
                  April 26 2013 15: 05
                  it’s nonsense, of course, that the F-117 went through the 2 Iraq war, and were decommissioned only after the F-22 entered service

                  Seriously? The US Air Force is so stupefied that it replaces a stealth bomber with a fighter that is not able to work normally on the ground ?? Or maybe it was written off because this flying iron is only suitable for dumping a pair of aircraft, at night, in the absence of air defense? And his flying qualities are not far from the same iron with engines?
                  Do not share information how much, when and where the phosphorus bombs were dropped?

                  The video is still about hanging on the internet. Or are these children's fireworks scattered across the 3-4 quarter?
                  not yours

                  My. Is this an accusation? Your quotes. And I didn’t say that you are so bad ...
                  But Cho, Shuvalov is no longer a man?

                  So are we talking about government money or the money of large public companies? I think you’ll find the difference yourself.
                  it's all good and right when dad is not in the public service

                  Your son or daughter went to study at a university in Europe, and then you were elected deputy of the state. thoughts Recall the offspring studying at home? Or bring it by force?
                  when will they find 100 kg of heroin in the bedroom under the pillow?

                  Personally, I will refuse such a daughter / granddaughter. And I will consider myself guilty of improper education.
                  a) I could not properly educate and the offspring did not embark on the true path
                  b) the offspring is to blame for not thinking with his own brain how the 100 kg of heroin under the pillow can end.
                  So, if they found it, they’ll go to jail. I can’t even move a finger to help!
                  1. warm
                    0
                    April 26 2013 15: 13
                    Quote: Wedmak
                    Seriously? The US Air Force is so numb that they replace a stealth bomber with a fighter that is not able to work normally on the ground ?? Or maybe it was written off because this flying iron is only suitable for dumping a pair of aircraft, at night, in the absence of air defense?

                    or realized that they’ve got enough drones and cruise missiles for this?

                    Quote: Wedmak
                    The video is still about hanging on the internet. Or are these children's fireworks scattered across the 3-4 quarter?

                    Well, so more specifically - where, when, the number. how many and which cities were burned.

                    Quote: Wedmak
                    So are we talking about government money or the money of large public companies? I think you’ll find the difference yourself.

                    Well, this is completely childish. or are we not talking about senior civil servants? Who is Shuvalov in the Russian Federation?

                    Quote: Wedmak
                    Your son or daughter went to study at a university in Europe, and then you were elected deputy of the state. thoughts

                    sure! well, and somehow they do not become a State Duma deputy "suddenly" ...
                    and even more so by the president;)

                    Quote: Wedmak
                    Recall the offspring studying at home? Or bring it by force?

                    and what's wrong with that? I’ll also sell property abroad, so there was nothing to blackmail!

                    Quote: Wedmak
                    Personally, I will refuse such a daughter / granddaughter. And I will consider myself guilty of improper education.

                    oh don't make me laugh!
                    1. 0
                      April 26 2013 15: 33
                      or realized that they’ve got enough drones and cruise missiles for this?

                      So, just understood? Throwing hundreds of millions of dollars into the wind - and understand? Americans are of course stupid, but they know how to count money. By the way, when the Goblin was written off, it was all about drones. And there were KRs before that. And then what was the essence of 117? Show the world how to teach flying an iron? This they basically achieved.
                      Well, so more specifically - where, when, the number. how many and which cities were burned.

                      Well, firstly, it was not burnt, but burned. Secondly, This is Belgrade. Didn’t they bomb him?
                      Well, this is completely childish. or are we not talking about senior civil servants? Who is Shuvalov in the Russian Federation?

                      Those. You want to say that millions of Shuvalov are in Cyprus? Where did the firewood come from?
                      sure! well, and somehow they do not become a State Duma deputy "suddenly" ...

                      I’ll also sell property abroad, so there was nothing to blackmail!

                      Recall? Seriously? Sell ​​property? Is there / will be a reason to blackmail? (This is a joke, you can not answer) I believe, here I honestly believe it! Now tell me the facts: where are the children of Putin now?
                      oh don't make me laugh!

                      I don’t laugh. To believe, not to believe or to laugh is your right.
                      1. warm
                        0
                        April 26 2013 15: 46
                        Quote: Wedmak
                        So, just understood? Throwing hundreds of millions of dollars into the wind - and understand?

                        Well, actually, the F-117 was in service for 23 years, and as many as 64 pieces;) and they rolled back 3 war games at that time ...
                        there was time and opportunity to both evaluate and think.

                        Quote: Wedmak
                        By the way, when the Goblin was written off, it was all about drones.

                        eh, and what to do if we don’t know the materiel?
                        F-117 was withdrawn from service in the 2006 year ... The traitor serves with 1995 ... the total number in 360 pieces ...

                        Quote: Wedmak
                        Well, firstly, it was not burnt, but burned. Secondly, This is Belgrade. Didn’t they bomb him?

                        never heard anything intelligible. But it’s so simple - date, place, number of bombs ...

                        Quote: Wedmak
                        Those. You want to say that millions of Shuvalov are in Cyprus? Where did the firewood come from?

                        you really do not read what they write to you ... try to concentrate and read what has already been written - everything is extremely simple and clear in it.

                        Quote: Wedmak
                        Now tell me the facts: where are the children of Putin now?

                        in Germany and Holland;)
                      2. 0
                        April 26 2013 16: 02
                        eh, and what to do if we don’t know the materiel?
                        F-117 was withdrawn from service in the 2006 year ... The traitor serves with 1995 ... the total number in 360 pieces ...

                        Yes, I didn’t specify a bit - shock drones. Scouts were decent even then.
                        F-117 was filmed in the 2008 year. The traitor began to be used in the shock version only in 2001 - test launches.

                        you really do not read what they write to you ... try to concentrate and read what has already been written - everything is extremely simple and clear in it.

                        It is very difficult for me to argue with a person who does not even bother to state his facts. And replaces my thoughts - his own.
                      3. warm
                        0
                        April 26 2013 16: 13
                        Quote: Wedmak
                        It is very difficult for me to argue with a person who does not even bother to state his facts.

                        just for you, and only once:

                        Quote: iliq
                        ps are those same people who equip themselves with a comfortable life in England, working in the government of the Russian Federation? or those who officially rolls government money
                        In Cyprus?

                        Quote: iliq
                        Quote: Wedmak
                        And people

                        But Cho, Shuvalov is no longer a man? not, I understand, now dispersal will go about the fact that the apartments for papers do not belong to him, but to his wife ...

                        Quote: Wedmak
                        And what kind of government money are you talking about, I do not know.

                        First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government Igor Shuvalov, speaking on the TV program Sunday Night with Vladimir Solovyov on the Rossiya Channel, made it clear that Russia did not intend to help Cyprus. In case of loss of money in Cypriot banks, the Russian authorities will only help state-owned companies,

                        AvtoVAZ, Sovcomflot for example

                        Quote: iliq
                        So are we talking about government money or the money of large public companies? I think you’ll find the difference yourself.

                        Well, this is completely childish. or are we not talking about senior civil servants? Who is Shuvalov in the Russian Federation?
  43. +1
    April 26 2013 11: 18
    Bravo, Vladimir Fomin. An excellent article and to me, as a former designer, it is very clear what it is about. Your words, and to God in the ears! However, no one reads our comments, except ourselves, unfortunately. Thieves rule the country and they will never give up on "muddy" projects where they can steal, hiding behind rhetoric about strengthening the defense of Russia.
  44. Grishka100watt
    0
    April 26 2013 11: 38
    Excellent written article! A plus!
  45. 0
    April 26 2013 11: 50
    The article is a big plus, very simple and clear, the author is well done.
  46. Marine One
    +3
    April 26 2013 12: 24
    Serbs using microwaves aimed at false targets F-117
    What nonsense. How much can you duplicate this nonsense? Hundreds of times it was disassembled and the source of this microwave bike is known. From the same series as the Persians who planted the drone.
  47. 0
    April 26 2013 12: 30
    .... people are fighting, and against people)))) equipment without a man expensive metal .... thanks to the author!
  48. Egor.nic
    +3
    April 26 2013 12: 35
    The article cannot be called bad, this is the personal view of the author, but in fact the article is nothing more than simple demagogy.
    What is the use of simple chatter, which is worth nothing? Most "writers" and bloggers know how to fight only with a mouse in computer wars ... Would go, serve the Motherland, work for its good.
    A survey of the Levada Center, conducted in 2012, showed that of the respondents in the male population of Russia - 35% would prefer to evade service provided that a war against Russia begins, another 15% will immediately go abroad.
    These are the results of a poll survey. In fact - a more deplorable situation ....
    In fact, only 30-35% of the population of Russia actually protects and serves Russia, teaches and treats, dresses and shoes, feeds and plows, creates products and builds, that is, benefits. Everything else is useless biomass like buy-sell consumers with zero self-awareness.
    1. ZhuDkiyDrugg
      0
      1 May 2013 14: 29
      Et Yes, here we lost the "battle" recourse
  49. Egor.nic
    0
    April 26 2013 12: 53
    I can’t presume to call the article good or bad - this is the personal opinion of the author, his thoughts out loud.
    In fact, the article is just demagogy.
    It’s better to talk about readiness for a war, about a war when he himself went through it, but didn’t hear something or read somewhere ....
    Many authors and bloggers discussing the war did not hold weapons heavier than a computer mouse or joystick. Yes, no offense will be told to you.
    An analysis carried out in 2012 by the Levada Center on the subject: - how you will behave if tomorrow is a war - showed that 35% of those surveyed would prefer to evade service, about 15% will go abroad. "Not bad" statistics. Reflects the current state of affairs ....
    In fact, it turns out that only 35-40% of the total population of Russia sincerely protects and serves Russia, faithfully treats and teaches, sows and plows, dresses and shoes, creates products and develops science. Everything else is a useless biomass of consumers with a level of self-awareness on the damage of the baseboard.
  50. 0
    April 26 2013 13: 12
    And the winner is not the one who uses high-precision weapons, but the one who can quickly and safely destroy the enemy’s satellite constellation - without it, all these systems turn into a pile of metal (I vaguely imagine V-2 pilots with a paper map in their hands).

    Well, besides satellites, there are also all sorts of things like "beacons", so the lack of a GPS signal is unpleasant, but not critical.
    As for the map, he’ll probably be able to fly on it, but you can forget about precision strikes. But the sense of the card will only be clear guidelines, otherwise it is not a card, but a potential tablecloth
  51. Rossamaha
    -1
    April 26 2013 13: 14
    5th generation don't touch bully
  52. Vtel
    +1
    April 26 2013 14: 03
    It’s a pity that Putin’s Chubais is untouchable, otherwise they would have made nano-tanks, nano-drones, nano-satellites and nano-air defense - nano-slingshots. They would wipe the noses of “blue Europe” and the Yankees.
    1. djon3volta
      -3
      April 26 2013 18: 32
      Have you ever thought that in the dungeons of SKOLKOVO, deep underground, under the control of Chubais, on the minus 37th floor, highly secret nano-projects are being created?

      1. -1
        April 26 2013 22: 07
        Quote: djon3volta
        Have you ever thought that in the dungeons of SKOLKOVO, deep underground, under the control of Chubais, on the minus 37th floor, highly secret nano-projects are being created?



        need to eat.. fool
  53. +5
    April 26 2013 14: 17
    Good article, correct. If we remove the strategic nuclear forces, given the current state of our armed forces, we can only die heroically. Therefore, “poking the enemy’s peepers” seems like a completely sensible idea. It’s just necessary that these means of suppression work when needed and as needed. And for this it would be nice to torture them in real conditions (not a word about Syria).
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 14: 32
      we can only die heroically.

      Look at the NATO troops in Europe and then think about the Bundeswehr 248 leo Anglos 256 challies second. Aviation is no less sad
      + The Americans are closing military bases in Europe.
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 14: 37
        Unless the whole crowd piles in together. With Turks, French, Jews and other Estonias. Then we will have to cover half of Europe with glass, no matter how sad it may sound.
        But I exclude this option. They don't have that kind of coherence. And it won't.
  54. 0
    April 26 2013 14: 55
    I agree with the article 200%; if it comes to war, the winner (if there is a winner) is not the one who pumps money into defense in bulk, but the one who finds the most sensible use for it (the money).
    The Americans will never be able to win in Afghanistan with their sophisticated army. To combat their sophisticated gadgets, the Mujahideen find solutions that are striking in their primitiveness and effectiveness. There is no need to play by the rules of the game that were invented overseas, we need to create conditions under which Americans will be forced to play by our rules.
    Try to play chess by repeating your opponent's moves - you will lose.
    In my opinion, it makes no sense to cost a huge aircraft carrier fleet if you are not going to wage war on the territory located on the other side of the ocean, just as it is not worth buying a gun if you are not going to go hunting.
    I really liked the Chinese draw.
    Many thanks to my colleague for a clear and correct article.
    1. warm
      0
      April 26 2013 15: 03
      Quote: Canep
      I agree with the article 200%; if it comes to war, the winner (if there is a winner) is not the one who pumps money into defense in bulk, but the one who finds the most sensible use for it (the money).

      Yugoslavia, Iraq-1, Iraq-2 Chechnya-1, Chechnya-2?

      Quote: Canep
      The Americans will never be able to win in Afghanistan with their sophisticated army.

      Where do you get such confidence that the Americans haven’t won there for a long time (have achieved their goals)?

      Quote: Canep
      Try to play chess by repeating your opponent's moves - you will lose.

      yeah, especially when it turns out that you are playing “the fool”, and your opponent is playing chess... oh, what an unpleasant surprise it turns out to be.

      p.s. You still have to really look at the potential enemy - or you’ll end up with the same rake-running - WWII, Chechnya...
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 15: 13
        Югославия

        Failure of the Douay concept
        Iraq-1

        By the way, here's a true story for you. And then the measures were carried out by several KShU and placing the GSVG instead of Iraq, and then the ZGV. We thought a lot afterwards.
        For the sake of the country, they were muzzled by sanctions, they didn’t get into partisanship, they quickly dumped
        Iraq-2

        They bought generals and then tried for 10 years to defeat the people, but it didn’t work. They dumped them.
        Chechnya-1

        They betrayed the army. By the way, they left the warehouses of an entire army to the Czechs. PS It was not partisans who fought there, but SA reservists; study the biographies of Chechen commanders.
        Chechna-2

        We were making better results in person. In fact, Chechnya is the calmest region in the Caucasus.
        Where do you get such confidence that the Americans haven’t won there for a long time (have achieved their goals)?

        Lol where did they win there. The longer they hang out there, the better off we are.
        1. warm
          0
          April 26 2013 15: 26
          Quote: leon-iv
          Failure of the Douay concept

          1. Aviation is a purely offensive weapon. Aviation alone is capable of achieving victory in a war. This is achieved by massive continuous bombing of enemy cities until the exhausted population of the enemy country is morally broken and demands surrender from its government.

          this one?

          Quote: leon-iv
          And then the measures were carried out by several KShU and placing the GSVG instead of Iraq, and then the ZGV. We thought a lot after

          rolling out Iraq-1 and developing more effective solutions:
          Quote: leon-iv
          They bought generals and then tried to defeat the people for 10 years, but it didn’t work

          and what kind of people did they defeat there? Sunnis kill Shiites and vice versa...

          Quote: leon-iv
          They betrayed the army. By the way, they left the warehouses of an entire army to the Czechs. PS It was not partisans who fought there, but SA reservists; study the biographies of Chechen commanders.

          did the Chechens have an army? - No. there were numerous gangs that made the bo-bo a regular (let’s keep silent about preparation) army.

          there were even more weapons in Iraq, and their commanders also studied at the military academies of the USSR.

          Quote: leon-iv
          We were making better results in person. In fact, Chechnya is the calmest region in the Caucasus.

          Well, I would doubt it! but it’s so far from the American army!
          By the way, is there a ban on firearms in this “most peaceful region”, or what?

          Quote: leon-iv
          where did they win there? The longer they hang out there, the better off we are.

          So their true goals in Afghanistan have already become known?
          But about their departure from Afghanistan, you are absolutely right - after their departure all this will creep to the Russian Federation...
          1. 0
            April 26 2013 15: 33
            this one?

            Oga North of the FRY came out with virtually no losses. Bought power
            rolling out Iraq-1 and developing more effective solutions:

            Having assembled a huge coalition against a country that had been at war 10 years before.
            there were even more weapons in Iraq

            You touch me, you will study these gangs. And also the relief and other things of Chechnya, and then talk. And compare with Iraq.
            but it’s so far from the American army!

            Oh, where are we? Here in Afghanistan they have the blessing of constant shelling and explosions. Moreover, the Taliban DShK is the best air defense they have.
            So their true goals in Afghanistan have already become known?

            Iran Iran needs stable bases there + the defense industry also wants to eat.
            1. warm
              0
              April 26 2013 16: 07
              Quote: leon-iv
              Oga North of the FRY came out with virtually no losses. Bought power

              no, you won't be able to jump off that easily am
              I brought you the Douhet doctrine - and as we see, the Americans successfully implemented it in Yugoslavia - aviation (and only aviation) broke the enemy. at the same time, they refrained from the massacre of civilians, which this doctrine provides for.

              Quote: leon-iv
              Having assembled a huge coalition against a country that had been at war 10 years before.

              oh, stop looking for excuses already! the fact that Saddam had one of the best and largest armies in the East is a fact. but the Americans would have rolled this out without the help of the allies (the help of many of whom consisted of providing warehouses/airfields). Moreover, the Americans acted through the Okiyan, and not on their own border.

              Quote: leon-iv
              You touch me, you will study these gangs.

              ok, give me the command structure of the Chechen “army”. who reported to whom, who was responsible for what.

              Quote: leon-iv
              And also the relief and other things of Chechnya, and then talk. And compare with Iraq.

              Can I compare it with Syria and Lebanon? where is the Lebanese army? What has the army been doing there in Syria for two years now? (I hope that they will still crush the militants!)
              Well, somehow an army should be able to fight in any terrain and climate, no?
              I won’t say anything about the “commanders” of the Chechens... Where did Basayev serve? Gelayev? Dudayev? Raduev? Baraev?

              Quote: leon-iv
              Oh, where are we? Here in Afghanistan they have the blessing of constant shelling and explosions.

              and what are their losses?

              Quote: leon-iv
              Iran Iran needs stable bases there + the defense industry also wants to eat.

              those. have they achieved these goals?
  55. Kostya pedestrian
    0
    April 26 2013 14: 57
    Thanks to the author for the article, the question is interesting, apparently people cannot live without war.

    Or rather, the morally damaged cannot do without war.

    Normal military men understand that the Army and Navy exist to prevent war and maintain discipline in the younger generation, so that, so to speak, men were not only born, but also remembered the Heroes who, with their blood, defending our future, wrote the Charter


    And all large-scale wars are organized by criminals with mental problems who hate Russians (I don’t say Russia, precisely because they don’t hate Russians of any nationality and our sense of freedom); for example, watch the movie "Clash of the Titans", in addition to historical examples like:

    - Crusaders, followers of God's suffering - for them, their whole life is suffering, and war is the best deliverance from it, or a normal person is afraid of causing harm, especially murder, but for that, for the psychos, this is an excuse for their maniacal habits. Read about the Prussian army and their education.

    -The Nazis, who stole the German mentality, led by the SS Prirates, started a war without officer honor and soldier’s valor. Dooming the Germans to Moses' suffering for 40000 years in a hot and waterless place!

    -Now they’ve made the USA a citizen - and the USA lasts a little longer than the USSR, because of the freedom of private enterprise, but if you are interested in marketing, the cost of various brands, and how much a soul costs, then you will see that a counter-revolution is underway in the USA. Just like in the USSR, when the same ones who communed poor Kolyan II as a martyr, in short, abandoned him, and at the same time framed the atheists.
    Don't forget sheep are needed either for shearing or for lunch.

    -It’s like in Australia, those Japanese companies that built bombers that bombed Australians are now exclusively producing cars for local border guards, and as my American friend told me, exclusively in Japan, and they are closing their factories. Here's the new World Trade Center - Ir(k)onya of fate, or

    With a slight greenhouse effect, gentlemen! And for Americans, I want to note that Tsunami has nothing in common with Da-Gest-An (APO) (note: Tsu- and Tsunami)
  56. 0
    April 26 2013 15: 06
    The cost of the B-2 is really p*****
  57. lx
    lx
    +3
    April 26 2013 15: 25
    article -- :)
    What kind of drone is Raptor? Maybe it’s Reaper after all and what does the author mean by droids? There are big doubts about whether the author has the technical education that he claimed. Oh...
    "miniature spacecraft that will quietly attach themselves to enemy satellites" ))))
    1. warm
      0
      April 26 2013 16: 14
      Quote: lx
      "miniature spacecraft that will quietly attach themselves to enemy satellites"

      So this is the most secret development in Skolkovo! Where are the nanotanks from it? bully
  58. 0
    April 26 2013 16: 08
    We have always had enough fools, but we have not learned to trust our specialists. To strangers - yes, to our own - no.


    Fools are half the trouble. The royal minions, trembling for their high chairs, looking into the mouth of the king-father, in servile zeal are ready to turn any good idea into its opposite.
  59. zemlyak
    0
    April 26 2013 18: 29
    Quote: Kavtorang
    . And to inquire in what condition the same “Shaposhnikov” trudged back from patrol and where he will go first is not fate, not our method.
    Where to where, to "Dalzavod", from berth 33 it's close there. "Dalzovod" hasn't been privatized yet?
  60. luka095
    +2
    April 26 2013 19: 46
    I am also not a military specialist, but it seems to me that the military, to a certain extent, always prepares for past wars. Simply because they are analyzed, experience is learned, appropriate statutes are written, etc. and so on. And they are used in training troops.
    It’s another matter if there are analysts sitting somewhere who are dreaming up future wars. The problem, perhaps, is the extent to which their conclusions are listened to by those who make decisions. And how much can they understand the conclusions of such analysts?
    So the problem raised is important and needs to be solved.
  61. 0
    April 26 2013 20: 14
    Article clearly + !!!
  62. redwar6
    0
    April 26 2013 20: 21
    Thank you, Vladimir. It’s wonderful, super. Everything is written very accurately, thanks again.
  63. +4
    April 26 2013 20: 39
    The article is a definite minus!!! It’s stupid to deny technical progress in the military sphere... It’s stupid to deny the prospects of unmanned aircraft... Some people seem to all think in terms of the Second World War, and it’s already been the 21st century... No - of course, the easiest way is to say that it’s best to fight with old weapons - like and if you strain yourself, there’s no need to come up with something new... Well, just think - once again we’ll overwhelm the enemy with a mountain of corpses - maybe he’ll get tired of fighting!!!

    America (for all my dislike for them) still has a more pragmatic approach - they talk little - they develop promising weapons - Stealth technologies in aviation and the Navy, various drones, small arms of new generations, ammunition, robotic systems, air defense systems, etc. .d.
  64. d_t_p
    +1
    April 26 2013 20: 40
    well written
    but...time, as they say, will tell!
  65. +1
    April 26 2013 20: 52
    First, drones are needed in large numbers. Aerial photography, including battlefields, highlighting targets in a local conflict (somewhere in Africa or Southeast Asia; it’s not very clear what we should do there, but that’s another question), to search for a drug caravan coming from Afghanistan to Tajikistan... But these are not combat vehicles and not for the army.

    Just don’t be so naive - this is how the Pentagon will show you all its secrets!!! I think that all countries - world leaders in the creation of weapons are actively engaged in the creation of unmanned aircraft and this is done mainly as secretly as possible... For example, we learned about the existence of a UAV made using STEALTH technology only after it was shot down in Iran... I think there are already prototypes of UAVs for combating armored vehicles and for destroying enemy personnel... And it’s high time for Russia, with its potential in aircraft manufacturing, to be among the leaders in the creation of UAVs so that in 10-20 years it does not lag behind progress...
  66. 0
    April 26 2013 21: 09
    With your permission, I will return to the topic that I outlined a little in this discussion in a comment dated 26.04.2013/09/56 at XNUMX:XNUMX. And at the same time, let me point out to the gentleman with Login “Lopatov” that in addition to tanks, self-propelled guns and IMR, they were going to put something similar, but modernized, to the Russian “Sprut-SD” or the Finnish mortar system Patria Nemo on this universal platform. This is a different weight category. Then, heavy armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles and simply vehicles and support equipment. What will be the weight category here and how much design money will need to be spent to hang it all on a universal platform? And here I will generally keep silent about equipment for the Airborne Forces. In conclusion, I will allow myself a quote, which may not be entirely accurate: “The most universal creature is the duck. It swims, flies, dives, builds nests, walks. And it does all this very poorly.”
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 21: 40
      Quote: hrad
      In addition to tanks, self-propelled guns and IMR, they were going to put something similar, but modernized, to the Russian Sprut-SD or the Finnish Patria Nemo mortar system on this universal platform

      Dear, well, you shouldn’t talk such blatant nonsense.
      "Sprut-SD" is a self-propelled anti-tank gun. Ersatz tank for the Airborne Forces. Who in their right mind could propose creating an analogue based on a tank chassis? You are lying or misunderstood.
      Patria Nemo self-propelled automatic mortar. "Sprut-SD" does not resemble it at all. But it reminds me of “Vienna” and “Khosta”. Which, how can I say, are by no means on a tank base. Again, it looks like you’re lying or misunderstanding.

      Quote: hrad
      What will be the weight category here and how much design money will need to be spent to hang it all on a universal platform?

      Maybe all your problems are due to the fact that you don’t know that there is more than one universal platform? At the moment they are three. Heavy tracked "Armata", medium tracked "Kurganets", medium wheeled "Boomerang"

      Well, based on your quote, count how many vehicles were created in the USSR on the basis of main battle tanks, how many on the basis of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. How many are on the MT-LB base - you can actually lose count.
      Well, dear, can you point out the fundamental difference between these Soviet machines and the new universal platforms? You can't.
  67. +3
    April 26 2013 22: 09
    We're all getting smarter and smarter. We are not preparing for any war. We are preparing for the next elections. Look at the figures for the navies of NATO and Russia, for aviation of NATO and Russia... Yes, for anything, even for the stars. Just don't worry about patriotism.
  68. +4
    April 26 2013 22: 20
    LET'S RELY ON COMMON SENSE and on us retirees who feel the lies of this article. How did this crap appear on such an honest site?
    1. 0
      1 May 2013 13: 39
      If we analyze the state of the country and the army, we are not preparing for any war. I mean a large-scale war for resources. We can barely endure the local conflict with God’s help (the war with Georgia)! As always, we are hoping for the Russian “maybe” and strategic nuclear forces (maybe they will be afraid to offend us).
      It first.
      Secondly. Remember Taburetkin and his statements (very popular in Kremlin circles) that such a war is impossible in the modern world. The country's military doctrine is designed for this. For this purpose, military academies of various types of armed forces have been dispersed, capable of scientifically analyzing the situation and developing acceptable solutions. Military science and operational art were declared obsolete (when the Chinese found out about this, they were very surprised). Which is very strange (we still won the Second World War). Tremendous experience has been gained. Well, improve it to suit modern conditions! And nothing new was given in return. Some kind of indistinct muttering about drones, mobile reserves, etc.
      Thirdly, at the moment, practically no one is seriously addressing this issue. There is simply no one! Even the General Staff did not escape the purges. The GRU, analysts, operatives have been emasculated... Not to mention the headquarters of the branches and branches of the military. But for some reason the headquarters of the new military districts are not interested in this.
      In general, the picture is unsightly. And it is not clear how to get out of this quagmire.
  69. +1
    April 26 2013 22: 25
    This is the most professional "amateur" I have ever read...
    The speech is delivered and competent...
    The guy understands technical aspects...
    P/S Well, NATO has nothing to do here, even if they enter under Federal Law-99, since he is not the only one among the Russians, many see EVERYTHING and keep silent, figure out in their minds how to quickly send the adversary...... somewhere)))))
  70. Meaning
    0
    April 26 2013 22: 30
    I agree that we need to develop cheap means of destroying a satellite constellation, and then fight with simple weapons.
    But in my opinion, the Raptor does not need radio control. He is given tasks and that’s it.
    But the problem is not the readiness for war, but the goal-setting of both the elite and the masses
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 22: 36
      The cheapest are anti-satellite missiles. Each at the cost of a modern fighter. But so far they can only shoot down devices in low orbits. When they can use geostationary systems, they will cost about the same as five to ten modern fighters.
      1. Kaa
        +1
        April 27 2013 00: 34
        Quote: Spade
        Anti-satellite missiles are the cheapest
        “Do you see the gopher? - No! - But it’s there...” Central Research Institute "Kometa", whose team developed the anti-space defense program together with the team of Vladimir Chelomey. It was impossible to do without his missiles. The same as without NGO Lavochkin. The antisatellite was assembled there.
        The first defeat of a target in space in the USSR took place... fifteen years earlier than in the USA. In August 1970. Our country, according to information received from the Central Research Institute "Kometa", has been approaching this event for about ten years. A unique and effective automated complex was created. At least the American one - the ACAT system - cannot be compared with it in any way. Its components are a ground-based command, computing and measuring station located in the Moscow region, a special launch pad at the Baikonur test site, a launch vehicle and an interceptor spacecraft. By the early seventies, these systems were, as they say, in full readiness. . The high-explosive fragmentation unit was installed on the interceptor. After the first shot, the Shuttle would cease to exist. Defeat would have been guaranteed.
        In August 1970, our specialists “reached” the first target.
        The complex was put on combat duty in 1979. A program like the American SDI at a theoretical level was developed in the USSR much earlier. Its essence is to create a system that will allow all American nuclear warheads to be targeted, including even those based on submarines and bombers. The system was supposed to be based in space and hit American nuclear missiles before they launched. At the direction of Marshal Ustinov, the Comet association worked on a technical project. What conclusion did they come to?
        It is impossible to destroy the entire nuclear potential of the Americans on all types of carriers (according to our data, they had up to 10000 nuclear warheads) in 20-25 minutes of flight time. Let me emphasize that this conclusion was made at Comet by the end of the 70s. Therefore, when in April 1983 Reagan announced the US intention to begin creating SDI, Moscow knew for sure that they would not succeed. Anatoly Savin reported to the government: the Americans are bluffing. Proposals were issued not to spend billions of rubles on its SDI (Washington followed this path), but to direct efforts to create anti-SDI - that is, a system for intercepting and destroying enemy space systems. What's the gain? It is enough to disable one or two key elements of the SDI, they explained to me at the Comet Central Research Institute, and the entire space missile defense system falls apart, hundreds of satellites launched into orbit become useless. The complex was mastered by specialists from the anti-space defense forces, and the American satellites were, figuratively speaking, on the hook. - However, at the beginning of August 1983, at a meeting with First Deputy Chief of the General Staff Sergei Akhromeyev, it became known that in one of his upcoming speeches, the head of the Soviet state, Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov, would announce that we were unilaterally stopping testing of the PKO complex. The complex fell silent. I emphasize that he fell silent, not “died.” He was still on combat duty, and Soviet specialists stopped all tests in space." http://www.rusarmy.com/forum/topic2499.html
        1. +1
          April 27 2013 02: 55
          We are talking about relatively cheap options. “Killer satellites” are an order of magnitude more expensive than anti-satellite missiles.
          1. Kaa
            0
            April 27 2013 03: 44
            Quote: Spade
            “Killer satellites” are an order of magnitude more expensive than anti-satellite missiles.
            But it is 2 orders of magnitude more effective -
            Quote: Kaa
            It is enough to disable one or two key elements of the SDI, they explained to me at the Comet Central Research Institute, and the entire space missile defense system falls apart, hundreds of satellites launched into orbit become useless.
            And in a fight, as you know, they don’t spare their fists...
  71. +1
    April 26 2013 22: 36
    There's no point in lying to me. Maybe I didn’t understand something. Thank you for explaining. There are too many articles in the Russian press on this topic for too long. You'll get lost. It looks like the producers are keeping it dark or just a PR campaign just to get money from the treasury, and then they will show a new miracle, kind of like in the story with the AK12.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 22: 54
      So you didn't know that she was not alone? Then everything is clear.

      In fact, the name “universal platform” is a tribute to fashion. On the heavy side, the same tank and a group of vehicles unified with it in terms of components and assemblies. To reduce the cost of production and maintenance. That is, practically nothing will change compared to what exists now.
  72. +4
    April 26 2013 23: 19
    Good evening! I read the article with great pleasure. This is the view of a caring AMATEUR. Therefore, the position of the respected Odysseus is closer to me. The author has a lot of mistakes on the topic raised. In order.
    1. Everything seems to have already been said about SDI. But! In 1983, we had a megawatt laser, but our prodigies couldn’t give an intelligible answer to what they had over the hill. They are now talking about know-it-all, but previously they were talking (as they are now) about lagging behind. Now the situation: Challenger dives 80 km into the mesosphere. And going back into orbit. What's on board? How many times can it dive into the industrial centers of the country if the payload is 20 tons? (our megaton head weighed around 1,5 tons). Everyone remembers the year 1941, and it cannot be repeated. The decision was made collectively! Almost everyone is for a worthy response to the “provocations” of the imperialists...
    2. After the SDI experience, we don’t have to do everything “like they do.” On the contrary, everyone is talking about an asymmetric response. Cheaper, but more effective. It's difficult, but possible.
    3. Small UAVs will solve small problems, as they have small loads, radius, and capabilities. We've already talked about mini-satellites, but I won't repeat them.
    3. The variant of combat use of UAVs in a hypothetical war between NATO and the Russian Federation was discussed. I would like to note that the Kyrgyz Republic, UAVs, KABs are created for the war with us, the PRC, India, and not with the Papuans. And they are called upon, as correctly noted, to break through strong air defenses, destroy protected command posts, strategic nuclear forces structures, etc.
    4. The author’s main mistake, in my opinion, is that he considers the process of armed confrontation between the parties statically: without taking into account the enemy’s opposition, the losses of the parties, etc. But for this you need to be a professional (at least with a higher military education!), and not an amateur, even one as interesting as the author. Therefore, the problems of electronic warfare, reconnaissance and command control, camouflage, fire and sabotage influence arise in full force.
    5 About drones. Now they are in “childhood” age. Now imagine a device with artificial intelligence! Or instead of a pilot, a biorobot! Therefore, we cannot ignore this direction, as we once did with cybernetics.
    6. About interference and other joys for high-precision guidance systems. The author is in error on this score. There have long been weapon systems built on the “fire and forget” principle. These are ICBMs, missile launchers, air-to-air missiles, etc., which have “highly intelligent brains” on board.
    7. About ICBMs. They are least susceptible to the effects of REP. They determine their place not by GPS, but by the stars (using the astrocorrection method) and store their place and direction using laser gyroscopes and gyroplatforms. And a CEP of 250 meters for a BB of 1Mt is sheer pampering! Well, in order not to depend on electronic crap, the Navy ordered that 30% of navigation tasks be solved using autonomous means of determining the ship’s position. (According to the Sun and stars, isobaths, etc.).
    8. The only thing I agree with 100% is that measure is the essence of all things. Therefore, technocratic habits should be abandoned. Many people can “create with their heads.” This is cool. But making a decision and taking responsibility for it is the lot of a few. It’s good when intelligence, will, intuition, and the political are slightly combined in one person. Then the great ruler appears.
    9. Well, in order not to waste people’s money, we have adopted the concept of defense sufficiency.
    Let me explain with an example. When our first secretary of the CPSU Central Committee was informed that the United States has 2 times more nuclear warheads than we do, and they can destroy us 2 times. He asked: can we destroy them with the existing nuclear warheads? Of course, Nikita Sergeevich! -Then why do we need to destroy them? No need to mock corpses!
    Sorry it’s long, but I wanted to speak on issues close to me.
  73. +2
    April 26 2013 23: 47
    I am not a weapons specialist or a military man... said the author.
    _____________________________
    Personally, I do not have a medical education and therefore do not give advice on how to “correctly” remove a kidney stone. This means that we have already had a “caring amateur” in matters of defense capability... and have clearly experienced what “managerialism” leads to. Everyone should do what they studied, what they strived for and in which they achieved real results. Other - for kitchen gatherings. I think so. However, the classics have long been talking about pies and shoemakers. It is a pity that many have forgotten the school curriculum... classical education. request
  74. 0
    April 27 2013 13: 26
    I believe that the war in the future, as in the past, will be fought for resources, before, when they grazed cattle and grew wheat, when they fought with swords, the war was for the land, since the mentioned resources grew on it, then with the development of international trade, resources could buy for gold and the war was going for robbery, and now it is going for it, either for the resource itself or for gold with which it can be bought.

    As for the current local conflicts, they remind me of ancient feudal wars, one came to power, he is replaced by another through war, and the eldest king has his share of interceding for one or the other and so on.

    And I think terrorism based on radical Islam existed before, there just weren’t weapons back then so that one person could kill a hundred if he didn’t have Achilles’s. There were radicalists in the Middle Ages, both in Christianity and in Islam, they simply dealt with them in an extremely inhumane way - they exterminated families, cities so that no one would survive, and they didn’t just kill, the slaughterhouse will seem humane than what the ancient people did, what can I say, that was the era, but You can't kill with a dull sword =)

    both now and then, the basis of radicalism is hunger and dull brains, the dumber a person is, the world seems fabulous to him and he, like a child, believes in everything, and even more so when he is hungry, he tries to take away someone else’s property from another well-fed one, and he will envy someone else’s satiety.

    So radical archaic countries, instead of enriching their miserable peoples living in a medieval way of life and thinking, envying the civilized world, are trying to destroy them - stupid jealousy. Where there is no education, there is darkness.

    ok, moving away from the topic =) Russia can only be threatened, as always, by separatist sentiments among the peoples living there, in order to avoid this. we need to educate them like Lenin did in his time, the more excellent students there are in schools. the fewer radicals there are, I say a hundred pounds.
    But international war does not threaten Russia. in the near future, China will not dare, the USA is a coward, Europe is gay. Unless there is danger from the country's leaders, who, like in 1979, will send the boys to their deaths in the name of the fatherland.
  75. zav
    0
    April 27 2013 15: 10
    With all due respect to the author, as they say, why isn’t the question raised about the “legitimacy” of US efforts to impose an arms race on the world community? In other words, who gave the United States the right to develop, implement and use increasingly sophisticated methods and means of mass destruction? Indeed, in terms of the invention of these means, the United States has been ahead of the rest of the planet for hundreds of years and is not going to give up its primacy. It’s no secret that they use the “right of the strong”, openly not giving a damn about legal and moral restrictions.
    Previously, from high stands, representatives of the USSR constantly reproached the United States for the arms race and, perhaps, this had some benefit. I don’t know what Putin is doing in terms of opposing US policy, but in public he calls them partners, and has never once accused them of an arms race that has no limit in sight. And not once did he appeal to the world community to finally open its eyes and begin to limit the influence of the United States, which has a detrimental effect on the state of affairs in the world.
  76. +1
    April 27 2013 22: 59
    What kind of war are we preparing for? As usual - on our territory and one rifle one thermal imager for three.
  77. 0
    April 29 2013 10: 27
    Even if the Kremlin is afraid of war, at least they’ll put the army and navy in order, but as for whether we should really be afraid of NATO on our territory or not, I don’t think we need to, they are afraid of the Russian bear, even weakened as it is now, but they are afraid.
  78. 0
    April 30 2013 20: 53
    We have gone far from the topic of the article! The article is generally correct! A breakthrough in the durability of armored vehicles is not predicted in the world, but in electronics, yes. So three Progress transport vehicles loaded with gravel must be kept in readiness 1. And gravel in orbits, like meteor showers!
  79. shitovmg
    0
    1 May 2013 16: 03
    I've liked "The Blue Car" since childhood! Optimistic song!

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"