288 minutes with Vladimir Putin: who is the net, and who inflates the gills?

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25 April 2013 was another “Direct Line” with TV viewers, radio listeners, and Internet users held by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Against the background of questions about the transfer or non-translations of time, museum and pre-Olympic passions, maternal capital, presidential happiness and the education of naughty children, we can distinguish a range of issues that is one way or another devoted to the geopolitical situation, economics and military topics. It is this circle of questions and presidential answers to them that will be considered in our today's material.



On the deterioration of relations between Russia and the West

Vladimir Putin was asked about the recent escalation of a kind of tension between the Russian Federation and a number of Western countries, and whether Russia shouldn’t do everything to improve relations with the West for the benefit of Russia itself.

The president replied that the deterioration of relations between Russia and the West did not begin today or yesterday. According to the president, the beginning of a sufficiently deep crisis is associated with the start of the NATO operation in Iraq. Putin noted that at that time Russia had categorically refused to participate in a joint operation with NATO to “establish a democratic order” in a country headed by Saddam Hussein, and Western countries, having understood the Russian position, nevertheless, began a certain rejection of Russia from themselves. They say they did not support us - we will obstruct.

Most often, the deterioration of Russia's relations with the West is provoked by the West itself. The head of state recalled that one of such instruments of deterioration of relations was the law-shaken Magnitsky law in the USA, which replaced the notorious Jackson-Vanik amendment imposing restrictions on Soviet-American trade as a kind of stick with nails for our country. The amendment, it must be recalled, was introduced as a punishment of the USSR for the restrictions imposed on the travel of Soviet Jews abroad. Putin is confident that the adoption by the US authorities of a new restrictive law with respect to Russia is an attempt by the US to dictate its conditions to foreign countries.
Just to inflate the gills: we are the coolest here! -


Vladimir Putin said, giving a description of the adoption of Magnitsky law in the United States At the same time, Putin noted that he did not consider the retaliatory Russian measures to be absolutely correct, but in fact makes it clear that the Russian authorities in this case could not do otherwise to preserve a certain level of state prestige.

In the same question Putin talked about the meeting of the Russian president in Germany and the Netherlands. The asking journalist (from Nezavisimaya Gazeta) said that the outline of Vladimir Putin’s visit to these countries was completely lost, since the main focus in covering this visit was on the “problems” of the LGBT community.

Putin repeated his words, which he said at a press conference in Holland, that if organizations that promote pedophilia are operating in this country, this does not mean that Russia should adopt such dubious experience. Russia is not going to impose its traditional values ​​on the West, and therefore the Western community does not need to be hysterical about the fact that Russia puts a barrier to their values.
Obviously, the West today is just as annoying that Russia is not going to fall into a servile position with only one mention of the presence of states in the world that want to inflate their gills. And the harder Russia will defend its position, the more our foreign “partners” will splutter with saliva, who are not yet ready for the fact that someone other than them may have their own interests.

Is it necessary to break this vicious circle? Of course, the convergence of positions would benefit both Russia and the West. But what if many positions are diametrically opposed? What if, in a strange way, any desire to find productive contact is linked to the rights of sexual minorities, then to the imperfection of the Russian judicial system? In general, the positive relations between Russia and the West are rather dead, no matter how regrettable ... Is it worth exhuming this “dead man” and trying to revive him? What is it for? You just need to build a new relationship. And they should be based on the assertion by Russia of their interests everywhere, whether the West likes it or not.

About Chubais and Rosnano

One of the most pressing issues of the direct line with the president concerned Anatoly Chubais and the Rosnano company he headed. “When will Chubais be in jail?” Is the quintessence of the attitude of society, which is directed towards the main Russian reformer of recent years.

Vladimir Putin said that it is necessary to distinguish theft from an inefficient investment. Today, according to the president, Rosnano’s losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles, and the president does not see a crime here. The head of state noted that the sphere of high technologies is extremely difficult, and therefore it is difficult to insure against inefficient projects and investments.
Can the president’s words be considered an indulgence of Anatoly Chubais’s activities during a straight line with the Russians? Well, if not directly, then indirectly Chubais and the whole “generals” of Rosnano may well continue to declare that they are not, life is like that ... And breathe easy at the same time.

How now to dock with the checks of the company by the Chamber of Accounts with this, and is it worth waiting for revelations after these checks? Here, probably, the answer is obvious. The Audit Chamber can, of course, reveal, but this is unlikely to have far-reaching consequences. After all, today, under the inefficient investments in the entire Russian economy, anything can be written off - from withdrawal from the state budget with subsequent transfer to doubtful accounts of financial assets to all financing of Rosnano. And for the ineffective work they will not be attracted to the criminal line ... What a good loophole for embezzlers and corrupt officials, however.

Here, the opinion of Vladimir Putin clearly does not coincide with the opinion of the majority of Russians, who are eager for retribution with Anatoly Borisovich for the option of privatization that he and his associates at one time turned in the country ...

On the invitation to work Kudrin

The president has revealed a secret that has been stirring the minds of the public lately. The secret was whether Alexei Kudrin (the former head of the Ministry of Finance) was offered to return to government bodies.
Not so long ago, the presidential administration heard the words that Vladimir Putin had not offered a job to Vladimir Kudrin, and that these were all inventions of the journalistic community.

But this time, the president, responding to the question whether Kudrin was offered a job in state structures, said:
"An offer was made, but he (Kudrin) refused
- said Putin and continued his answer in a joking manner:
"Net, he doesn't want to work."


It turns out that the interest in the return of Alexei Leonidovich to the state structures was nevertheless in power (and, in all likelihood, remained). And if there were hopes associated with the new arrival of Kudrin to power, then indirectly the economic course that can be taken by the authorities in the near future or taken already appears. This course is a fairly rigid economy of budget funds, which are unlikely to be sent to the real production sector, but will be dropped into the Reserve Fund, filling it and making the next safety cushion from possible crisis waves in the near future. In other words, Kudrin left, but Kudrinomics did not go anywhere. The very presence of the former finance minister in a straight line with the president speaks volumes. If the innovation economy of Russia consists in the immense accumulation of reserves, then why was Kudrin removed from the government at all? Really, the nerves ...

About the letters of Berezovsky

Vladimir Putin said that a letter from Boris Abramovich was. Even two were ... With the same, true text, but still. In the letters, according to the Russian leader, the disgraced oligarch apologized for the large number of mistakes he made and asked permission to return to Russia.

Responding to a question about whether Putin would allow Berezovsky to return, the president answered that, in addition to the moral side of the case, it was necessary to conduct a legal analysis, to appeal to the Supreme Court and the prosecutor's office.

It is generally difficult to evaluate Berezovsky’s letter to Putin himself, the essence of which in the course of the direct line, the president set out. Well, what does it mean to “apologize for mistakes” and “ask permission to return”? Yes, for God's sake - would you come back, who would be against? .. And the decision of the court was already at the end of thirty years of a real term, and no lengthy negotiations with the British on extradition are necessary. Everything was ready for the return: the bunks had to be unfastened and the grille cleaned.
Asked, you see, forgiveness ... From London ... Good goose! Here from the general chamber somewhere near Vorkuta and I would ask after my return. But no. Apparently, some hope deigned to feed.

Yes, Ahmed Zakayev, Andrei Borodin and others will start to write letters at such a pace “to lose their homeland against their will” ... True, the sad result of Boris Abramovich himself can cool this hypothetical fervor.
About the case of Oboronservis
Here it is necessary to recognize that the head of state once again, responding to a question about the progress of the investigation into the Oboronservis case, proceeded to what is usually called “spread the thought over the tree.”
The main phrase, which still leaves at least some hope that the gentlemen who had devastated the country's military budget, would incur a deserved criminal punishment, looked like this:

"Measures will be taken as provided by law."


And further. The President said that it was he who initiated the proceedings in this (now loud) case, answering the question of whether he was aware of fraud schemes and corruption in the Ministry of Defense. That is, Putin began, and who will complete? ..
In other words, the agonizing wait for the outcome continues. At the same time, the head of state is well aware that a lot depends on this outcome. After all, if everything boils down to the fact that the case is not worth a penniless, and that instead of embezzlement there were only “ineffective actions”, then not everyone will accept this result calmly. Does the president need such a public “fluttering”? The answer is “no!” That is why the dashing ending of the soap opera called “Oboronservis” is guaranteed. But what will it be: a “dashing” removal of all the charges, a “dashing” sentence of “a year conditionally” or is it a real blow to the corrupt?

Although, what answer could one expect from the president in this case: “We will put these 100% military property plunderers” or “By Vasilyeva Prison crying”? Well, we are adults and we are well aware that it would be the very same human rights advocates that would be interpreted as pressure from the president on the judicial system.

In general, the answer was given, but questions remained ...

On the flow of new aircraft in the Russian Air Force

The question of modernizing the military aircraft fleet was asked to the president from Lipetsk. Vladimir Putin was asked about when the unit will arrive aviation fifth generation technique.

To this, Vladimir Putin replied that the situation with the modernization of military equipment is changing for the better, that tests of the new T-50 (PAK FA) aircraft are being actively carried out. According to the president, the aircraft will go into mass production in the 2016 year.
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  1. +40
    April 26 2013 07: 15
    THE SHOW GOES ON......
    1. bask
      +50
      April 26 2013 07: 44
      Quote: regin
      THE SHOW GOES ON...

      Two main questions were not voiced
      1. When the government of DAMA and all the liberals are ousted.
      2. When it is forbidden to take money out and open accounts in offshore. .
      1. +23
        April 26 2013 07: 57
        Quote: bask
        1. When the government of DAMA and all the liberals are ousted.

        Hi Bask! everything was voiced and if Medvedev is removed his post is likely to be noticed by liberalist Kudrin. Not for nothing that he dragged him to the studio and PR. In short, there will be no changes in this regard for the better.
        Quote: bask
        2. When it is forbidden to take money out and open accounts in offshore. .

        And he also essentially answered this question when he did not answer the leading question that 30 deputies of the State Duma had divorced effectively, so as not to declare property.
        1. +14
          April 26 2013 08: 11
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          that 30 deputies of the State Duma divorced effectively, so as not to declare property.

          And you would like them to get divorced for real, with scuffle and beating dishes wassat
          1. +13
            April 26 2013 08: 14
            Quote: Ruslan67
            And you want them to get divorced for real, with scuffle and beating

            And this is a thought! It would be interesting to see a whipping of Chinese porcelain of a dynasty :)
            1. +13
              April 26 2013 08: 21
              Quote: Egen
              It would be interesting to see a whipping of Chinese porcelain of a dynasty :)

              And at a State Duma meeting where half of the deputies are in dark glasses wassat
              1. +29
                April 26 2013 10: 21
                On the eve of the great holiday, this is what the veteran has to do with our president:

                1. +15
                  April 26 2013 10: 43
                  Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                  On the eve of the great holiday, this is what the veteran has to do with our president

                  One cannot disagree with this grandmother! Hair on end from what these bastards do!
                  1. +21
                    April 26 2013 10: 59
                    Putin did not understand the meaning of the first question from the paramedic girl. This is a bad sign.

                    Scaring Dimon-iPhone with Kudrin is also a dubious creative.

                    In general, the drive was not enough compared to his previous performances.

                    And with his admiration for Chubais specifically upset.
                  2. +1
                    April 26 2013 11: 08
                    But this granny had already forgotten how she could not get her beggarly penny for six months. And if she is really a veteran, then now she has a pension, God forbid everyone. A video of the opposite content is also in bulk on the network.
                    1. +6
                      April 26 2013 11: 19
                      God grant to everyone? Yes, how many veterans are still not provided with housing, is this normal? In the courtyard of 2013, so far this problem has not been resolved. Here are the next oath assurances:

                      “Until the end of 2013, all capital veterans of the Great Patriotic War will be provided with housing,” said Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin. The city will also help veterans with the repair of apartments.

                      In 2013, it is planned to provide decent housing to all needy veterans of the Great Patriotic War in Perm Territory. This was announced on Thursday at the platform of the Legislative Assembly of the region by the Minister of Social Development of Prikamye Tatyana Abdullina.

                      In Primorsky Krai: As of January 1, 2013, the turn of the Great Patriotic War veterans entitled to receive social support measures to provide housing amounted to 146 people. Of these, 24 are directly participants and invalids of the Second World War, 122 are family members of WWII veterans (widows).
                      Currently, 71 veterans have been issued certificates certifying the citizen’s right to receive social benefits for the purchase of residential premises. 38 people are included in the draft order of the administration of the Primorsky Territory, which is undergoing approval.
                      As the director of the Department of Labor and Social Development of the Primorsky Territory Lilia Lavrentieva noted, the implementation of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation on the provision of housing for WWII veterans is under special control: “The Department of Labor and Social Development of the Primorsky Territory will fulfill the powers assigned to us to provide housing for WWII veterans within the allocated financial resources ".

                      Well, yes, there are many ostentatious videos, I agree. They will remove the federal channels, and let's show, I agree.
                      1. -13
                        April 26 2013 11: 55
                        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                        Until the end of the 2013 year, housing will be provided to all metropolitan veterans of the Great Patriotic War, ”said Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin. The city will also help veterans with the repair of apartments.

                        Let's be honest. These veterans already do not need these apartments. These apartments are no longer needed by their grandchildren, and so they raise hysteria.
                      2. +14
                        April 26 2013 14: 46
                        Let's be honest. These veterans already do not need these apartments. These apartments are no longer needed by their grandchildren, and so they raise hysteria.

                        Maybe so, but does it change something? Or do you think they don’t want to live like people before they die in a new apartment? They deserve it, and how they manage it is their own business.
                      3. Patriot of Russia
                        +13
                        April 26 2013 18: 45
                        Quote: Joker
                        THE SHOW GOES ON......

                        how tired this showman is! so many years the same thing ...
                      4. Misantrop
                        +2
                        April 27 2013 14: 50
                        Quote: Atrix
                        Let's be honest. These veterans already do not need these apartments.
                        Well, yes, at their age, heat a bucket of water on the stove to bathe - just spit. And to go to the toilet to the street - and at all instead of physical exercises, right? Well, the holes in the walls only improve the flow of fresh air, it is useful to them. Again, who prevented them from filling their pockets instead of defending their homeland, right?
                      5. +9
                        April 26 2013 12: 59
                        In and fuck your Primorye bosses, who do not itch. There are all the necessary laws, there is funding. Another issue is that they do not do anything locally. For example, our wife's grandfather, a veteran, disabled of the Great Patriotic War, received an apartment in a new building. And he has a pension. This is what Putin said that you have to steer in manual mode. As the problem reaches Moscow, the laws are found and money appears on the ground. And we all expect that “the master will come, the master will judge us.” Many people know about what is happening in the government, no more than Novodvorskaya about sex, but still there. Some shout that, they say, thieves on trial and against the wall, others immediately shout about authoritarianism and the threats of Stalinism. In the old days, even the king did not have ABSOLUTE power. And now there are enough levers of influence
                      6. +16
                        April 26 2013 13: 27
                        About "manual mode":
                        1. Governors-subordinates of the president, therefore: do not follow orders - expel (GDP), you have the right!
                        2. you can’t (GDP) deal with governors - resign!

                        PS The meaning of management, the very vertical, lies in the fact: to create such a management system so that everyone works, so that the functions are not duplicated, and the controllers are not dependent on the executors. This is how any EFFECTIVE system works. Only apparently this is not our case !!! crying
                      7. -4
                        April 26 2013 17: 50
                        Exactly, Putin wanted to, but couldn’t, the country is in occupation, the world media will raise a howl, America will throw a bomb.
                      8. Misantrop
                        +1
                        April 27 2013 14: 53
                        Quote: lewerlin53rus
                        That's what Putin said about that in manual mode, you have to steer.

                        Quote: lewerlin53rus
                        And we all expect that "the master will come, the master will judge us"

                        To the master, in order not to once again dangle with the "manual mode", it would be necessary to select the performers on the ground more closely. And control their activities (with appropriate conclusions). Then, you see, and there would be fewer uncomfortable questions ...
                      9. late
                        +2
                        April 26 2013 20: 07
                        Or maybe you better remember, by whose initiative the war veterans generally began to issue a million to purchase housing?
                      10. fartfraer
                        +11
                        April 26 2013 20: 17
                        and can recall that at the same time, with the tacit consent, "unsuccessfully" invested billions? or can you remind who spat in the face of these veterans handing out the country piece by piece to the Chinese, Norwegians and Ukrainians? suffocated in smoke from forest fires (population about 600.000) and firefighting aircraft approached only when the fire began to threaten oil pipelines and towers? even when Moscow was burning, planes circled around in clouds, and Tomsk province, of course, even though no one would notice it die out.
                      11. -2
                        April 27 2013 06: 59
                        you’re cool Russian, write off all the flaws of the previous authorities on Volodya, why do you have brains?
                      12. fartfraer
                        +5
                        April 27 2013 14: 20
                        what do the previous ones have to do with it? I'm talking about the events that occurred after the coming of the gdp) i.e. after 2000
                        why do you need brains? Do you need a place in your head so that the skull does not bend with atmospheric pressure? So I’ll tell you an interesting thing - you can use these brains for other purposes, for example, to think and remember.
                        unfortunately I cannot say the same about you ("you are cool Russian"), because. you are terrified by your unconsciousness of very recent events.
                    2. +7
                      April 26 2013 13: 42
                      Quote: lewerlin53rus
                      And if she is really a veteran, then now she has a pension, God forbid everyone.

                      Strongly said. Would you like to go through what her generation has gone through in order to receive a pension "God forbid everyone" in old age?
                    3. +16
                      April 26 2013 14: 44
                      now she has a pension, God forbid everyone

                      What? This is probably why the granny sells seeds on the streets of the granny, probably nothing to do. Perhaps that is why they buy only the most necessary goods in stores. Now the average pension in the country is thousands of 10, minus 2500-3000 utilities, minus 1500 medicines and what remains? I already go to the store less than 1000 with me and I don’t take it on 3-4 of the day that I bought, but how old are they? For good they need once a year goes to the hospital for a week for examination and preventive treatment, they pull it? What nonsense, sorry. Now we have an average Russian citizen can afford an apartment only in a mortgage, and then for the children. garden pay, pay for school, food, clothing, travel, lunch at work. With us, per capita income can and does grow, only now it does not keep pace with inflation.
                      1. +3
                        April 27 2013 13: 04
                        To the hospital ... Now you can’t get an ambulance if a person is more than 60. And you say hospital. And they will come after a thorough scandal, they will put analgin + noshpa and tick off with a sense of accomplishment - here we are!
                    4. late
                      +1
                      April 26 2013 20: 03
                      I agree ! Today I asked my grandmother what her mother’s pension was in the 1970s. So, with my grandfather’s salary of 150 rubles — about the average in the country at that time, my great-grandmother’s pension was only 20 (!) Rubles! In my main job I earn a little more than 30 thousand, the pension of my grandmother, a veteran of labor, about 13 500 rubles. Is there a difference? And at that time it was not customary to moan that it’s hard to live !!! And now - cars for a lemon are full of the yard, and all the beggars, all are few! Of course, the standard of living of large families should be improved, it would be nice at the expense of those who are not enough for a couple in a good sleeping area and a cottage in the country. And as for Putin, I can only say one thing - you smoke, drink and are not married - he is only to blame! Just compare Obama with him, as the Americans did, and it will immediately become clear which of them is a hired manager and gay, and who is a KGB officer and a person who really runs the country.
                      1. fartfraer
                        +3
                        April 26 2013 21: 04
                        somehow there was a similar conversation with the men at the construction site — they managed to sit well in a restaurant for 10-15 rubles (with alcohol and eat from a belly) what’s your evaluation criterion? when comparing with the prices of restaurants I know, the pension for such a granny should be about 18- 20 thousand
                      2. late
                        -2
                        April 26 2013 22: 07
                        Based on your thoughts, the salary of my grandfather, a mechanic of the 6th category, in the 1970s with our money was at least 150 rubles a month at least. This is absurd.
                      3. fartfraer
                        +2
                        April 26 2013 22: 13
                        I just gave an example of how pensions can be counted. By the way, what would a bricklayer be equal to now if the old masters told that they had 600 rubles a month with that money? here, too, you can count in different ways) if you are now getting in jeans would be 2,5-4 thousand, if in the prices of a "business-class" car, then under 200 tyrov would climb out. Let's compare what percentage of 20 rubles. Granny gave for a communal apartment and what% is given by current pensioners.
                      4. late
                        -4
                        April 26 2013 22: 37
                        Yes, the communal apartment was much cheaper in the 1970s than it is now, but there were only two private buses, one inter-district bus, compared to ten flights today, on average, the level of food supply is several times (!) Less than today. village tarpaulin boots two pairs for a family - the father of the family and older brother, shoes - only for the wedding, and so on.
                      5. +4
                        April 27 2013 12: 50
                        You somehow gentlemen compare horseradish with radish. My grandmother was paid 16 rubles. At the same time, she managed to save money. Can a modern pensioner save them? As for transport - transport to the villages of the second category does not go at all - earlier it was possible to go to any village for a penny. I say this because my father lived for some time in such a village - you can leave there because the route is nearby and from there it is very problematic to vote for hours on the highway and not a single bus muzzle will stop. Provision of products less at times ???? Do not make me laugh! Name at least one family that was starving in a scoop - you won’t find a fig! And there were no homeless people and there were no street children! Moreover, pay attention they sold in the OIL shops and not the surrogate which is now called that, and the meat that met the GOST, that is, normal meat and not expired, the drugs were called by their names and were not sold as a superfood remedy for all diseases. What nonsense about kirzuha for two! Everyone used the loans and there were no malicious non-payers - because the company gave the loan and it was responsible for this loan. And they conveyed - yes conveyed why ask - yes because it is a pity to throw away a thing that looks like new after 2's 3's years of socks. Today, this practice is no less common - children's things convey and this is a fact! The lady wrote on the forum here that they say she received 65 rubles and was very surprised - in 1980 the minimum salary was 70p. Teachers received such salaries, for example, in a rural school, but do not think that they were unhappy with a bad life - the school teacher received so many benefits that the other hard worker did not earn. For example, firewood, a house, coal for free. 70r per month is quite normal money for a villager. You yourself can conclude how much it worked and what category it had in order to get 65p. Communal - a separate story altogether - say less? Yes, incomparably less cost 3Р20к for a two-room apartment - for my father it is 1,5% of w.p. of that period. If today there would be such a fee, it would mean that you pay from the average salary in 15000, then we would pay 250p. and a plane ticket to Moscow from Krasnoyarsk would cost 2,500 p.
                      6. +3
                        April 27 2013 16: 01
                        Quote: dddym
                        You somehow gentlemen compare horseradish with radish

                        It is very likely that such comparisons are made by citizens who are new to Soviet realities. They are used to measuring everything with today's measure - the number of zeros in the salary, not realizing that Soviet life cannot be measured with the salary.
                        My late old men, with their collective farm salaries, managed to raise the house. Translate, respected spat, into modern calculus. At the same time, on the passbook of many not the most prosperous peasants lay more than one cherished thousand. And the children received higher education.
                        I would not want to idealize everything, but for some reason it turns out by itself ...
                      7. late
                        -2
                        April 27 2013 20: 02
                        You are talking about the beginning of the 80s, in my opinion, and in the 1970s in the village shops it was a ball, in the words of my grandmother, I’m not talking about a city where, by the way, you would break out of the collective farm - the collective farmer’s passport in the chairman’s safe. The village lived much worse than the city and tarpaulin boots were casual shoes. What with the fact that everything was natural from the products, it all went to the city! And the village relatives were looking forward to the city relatives, because they brought pickles that they tried only on holidays! And he drove people from the city tented, like the current Gazelle, to a rampart, called a bus, in which people flew up on bumps to the ceiling, and since the ramble walked rarely, people packed into it like herring in a barrel.
                      8. 0
                        2 May 2013 13: 51
                        In 1974, the city of Petropavlovsk, Kamchatka, celebrated the New Year for 12 rubles at the Kosmos restaurant
                      9. -1
                        April 26 2013 21: 41
                        Thank you for your fair assessments of what is happening. About the pension of old people in the 70s is absolutely true. My grandmother received only 27 rubles, although she worked all her life on a collective farm. But during the war, all documents burned down and she was not paid a labor pension, but paid for her son who disappeared without lead in the 41st year ..... And in fact, stop whining all the time. Is it really not clear that you are giving food to Navalny, Nemtsov and other "friends of the people"? And not because of hunger, grandmothers sell seeds, but so that their grandson give it to a laptop. Believe me, I know this from such grannies, from my neighbors. Not everything is gloomy with them. They will eat barley without butter, and the grandchildren will save up for a car.
                      10. fartfraer
                        +6
                        April 26 2013 21: 51
                        Tverichka, come to visit, we’ll go and see how ordinary people live, not oilmen. We’ll go and talk about economics with a good economist, taxes with a competent accountant. I’ll show you who builds houses and for what money, what roads you have to drive. Then we’ll sit in a cafe , we’ll sit and think over a cup of tea how it is so in a prosperous country with good pensions and other bonuses of competent authority.
                      11. +1
                        April 26 2013 23: 09
                        Quote: fartfraer
                        Tverichka, come to visit, we’ll go and see how ordinary people live, not oilmen. We’ll go and talk about economics with a good economist, taxes with a competent accountant. I’ll show you who builds houses and for what money, what roads you have to drive. Then we’ll sit in a cafe , we’ll sit and think over a cup of tea how it is so in a prosperous country with good pensions and other bonuses of competent authority.

                        It is simply necessary to steal less for officials. Then the standard of living will rise and pensions will be normal. And maybe as in developed countries, pensioners will be able to afford to go on a pension to warm countries. And then you tell how pensioners live well, ask how often pensioners travel at least to the Black Sea, I am already silent about foreign countries
                      12. +2
                        April 27 2013 17: 18
                        I will add that medicine was free. education is free, including additional. They were proud of the old people and helped in every possible way, either Timurovites or the Komsomol. And it was worthy. The tractor driver was proud that he is a tractor driver, a teacher - that he is a teacher. A medic, because he is a medic. And those who ran from place to place were called "flyers". You count your zeros and then you were proud not of zeros but of deeds. They raised people who were statesmen and devoted to their homeland. And today devotees are being educated to "zeros". They are proud of the exchanges - forgetting that all the profits of the exchange fall on the shoulders of ordinary workers and an ordinary taxpayer.
                      13. +3
                        April 27 2013 07: 41
                        Quote: fartfraer
                        come to visit, let's go see how ordinary people live,


                        Guys, I apologize for interfering, not quite in the subject, but "how they live" is not always an indicator ... Now - so who wants what. We, too, have a courtyard full of "lemons" and even "watermelons", in the summer, in general, the entrance for 3-4 has to stick around. My little and not-newbie even looks uncomfortable against the background :). But I would not say that the people around get more than me or that I am such a poor unfortunate person. I preferred to get into a mortgage and try :)) to resettle the children. And I also put the car in my own garage while the lemons rust and beat on the street. I just don't understand why, living with children and parents in a three-ruble Khrushchev apartment, without a garage, buy jeeps for 1,3-1,8 lemons or even a Kruser for 3,5 on credit and plow for it all my life later, even after it crashes. Everyone chooses his own under the influence of advertising ...
                        This I mean that sometimes people drive themselves into debt. Say the state is guilty again? I agree, in part, yes, allowing people to be fooled. But if a person is an oak tree himself, no state will help him :(
                      14. fartfraer
                        +4
                        April 27 2013 14: 25
                        Egen, I agree with you by 90%. The consumer society has been simplified, let them gobble up and do not need anything else. But as far as the prosecutor’s office and other state structures are concerned, my complaints are specifically to the authorities, and not to owners of expensive cars, etc. I won’t, I think the idea is clear.
                      15. late
                        +3
                        April 27 2013 20: 12
                        You actually wrote absolutely in the subject. People live one day, taking loans, especially for cars - then I'll give it back! In our city, several batteries at Koksokhim and an open-hearth shop were closed in 2008, when the crisis hit - and someone from high salaries paid 20 rubles for a new LANSER ..
                      16. fartfraer
                        +2
                        April 28 2013 12: 09
                        so it upsets - someone is fattening, and someone is actually in debt slavery. and the transition to another job will change little, and sometimes there is nowhere to go. I will note this not about those who have invented, implemented, or work in the enterprise created by him (fattens), but about those who do not pay their workers z-that, but instead buy cars for their children, he travels abroad, and he has "no money" to pay his workers. And the worst thing is that these people This is from personal experience, there were appeals to the prosecutor's office, and three courts, but in the end we were given a z-that, and the owner of the office was not even punished.
                    5. -1
                      April 27 2013 05: 42
                      it when when at a scoop the grandmother could not get beggar pennies ???? And how miserable are they ??? If you are talking about 90, theft there has blossomed in a riotous color.
                      1. +1
                        April 28 2013 11: 11
                        Minus you for the scoop
                  3. +14
                    April 26 2013 11: 23
                    So think, looking and listening to this granny - who is the old senile, she or some who praise the GDP on this site?
                  4. Neponyatkin
                    +5
                    April 26 2013 11: 28
                    I agree with every word of Olga Mikhailovna. Something to add, I think it will be immodest.
                  5. Patriot of Russia
                    0
                    April 26 2013 18: 43
                    Quote: nycsson
                    THE SHOW GOES ON......

                    how tired this showman is! so many years the same thing ...
                2. Luna
                  -6
                  April 26 2013 20: 34
                  This is called DONE!
                  ... nothing else was found, like "revelations" from the rally of the white-haired people?

                  It seems to me that my grandmother earned a good one-time increase in pension ... Putin is bad? It must be assumed that under Yeltsin, her life was better, more satisfying and without corruption.

                  Maybe someone sees a real candidate for Putin's place? REAL, not your own Wishlist. Because that would not tryndeli about the choice of the people, but he always, everywhere and at all moderated from above.
                  1. +2
                    April 26 2013 21: 54
                    Quote: Luna
                    It seems to me that my grandmother earned a good one-time increase in pension ... Putin is bad? It must be assumed that under Yeltsin, her life was better, more satisfying and without corruption.

                    And you better remember what the price of oil was under Yeltsin, and what under Putin. I will remind, then 15, and now 100.
                    You know, there is such a saying, they say, Lenin's expression: "Every cook can rule the state" began with the phrase "At the price of oil $ 100 per barrel"
                    1. Luna
                      -1
                      April 26 2013 22: 11
                      I remember something, but you are not too lazy to read

                      http://www.politonline.ru/ventilyator/10519.html
                  2. -1
                    April 27 2013 05: 51
                    She does not compare Putin with Yeltsin, unlike you. am
                3. +6
                  April 26 2013 21: 46
                  Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                  Here is the veteran’s attitude to our president:

                  Now Esaul will burst with a saber in his right hand and Putin’s icon in his left, and will begin to stigmatize this grandmother that she was bought by the State Department and, in general, if she scolds Putin, then she’s at the feeding trough, and so on. laughing
                  1. +5
                    April 27 2013 00: 30
                    During a direct line, under the guise of a journalist from Perm, a question was asked by Russian President V. Putin, an official from the apparatus of the Perm governor V. Basargin, who had previously worked as the federal minister for regional development in the Putin government.

                    This official is Sergei Malenko, who was his confidant in the presidential elections. Malenko is currently studying at the Russian Academy of Public Administration under the President of the Russian Federation. He is a member of the regional political council of the United Russia party. Soon, this Gad will become governor or minister ...

                    We know the answer to the question, "When will Chubais finally go to jail?" I am interested in another answer to a completely different question.

                    Who needs this idiocy at the state level? Why does the president of a nuclear power have such statements that testify to the extreme weakness and insanity of power?

                    Gentlemen, in the Presidential Administration, are you not ashamed, or have you all lost your honor, conscience and dignity long ago ?!
                    1. Luna
                      -3
                      April 27 2013 01: 55
                      In the spring of 2013, Sergey Malenko headed the Department of Civil and Special Programs of the Administration of the Governor of the Perm Territory. Previously, he was an employee of the Perm Krai Youth Policy Committee, the head of the newspaper and Internet projects department at the Media Press agency, which oversaw the Izvestia-Perm Krai and MK in Perm newspapers, and was a TV presenter on Auto-TV "And" Uralinform-TV ". He also headed the agency of socio-cultural projects of the city of Perm.
                      Sergey Malenko himself, commenting on the situation, said that he did not play “no performance” in a direct line with President Vladimir Putin, Kommersant-Prikamye writes. According to him, as a “journalist from Perm,” he was introduced by a co-host of the direct line, and the schedule of the meeting did not leave him the opportunity to correct her. He also added that he was present on the line as a proxy of the President of the Russian Federation. And despite the fact that in early March he headed the department in the administration of the governor, he remains a journalist and continues to publish materials on social issues.
                      http://prm.ru/politics/236940/
                4. -1
                  April 27 2013 06: 55
                  I don’t know, but PUTIN is the only one who respects veterans, but there are none, the youngest is under a hundred, and is this veteran of what is the rear?
                  1. Misantrop
                    +4
                    April 27 2013 15: 04
                    Quote: KAMS
                    but they are not there, the youngest is under a hundred, and this veteran of what is the rear?
                    A grandmother lives in a neighboring house, the whole war was a surgeon in a field hospital. The load is beyond. And nothing while holding on
                5. His
                  -5
                  April 27 2013 20: 15
                  Granny doesn’t look like a veteran, it’s painfully young, really crazy
            2. +9
              April 26 2013 10: 48
              Quote: Egen
              And this is a thought! It would be interesting to see a whipping of Chinese porcelain of a dynasty :)

              It would not be more interesting to look at the list of divisible property - this is where a lot of things would "climb" ...
        2. +33
          April 26 2013 09: 03
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And he also essentially answered this question when he did not answer the leading question that 30 deputies of the State Duma had divorced effectively, so as not to declare property.

          Sasha hi! He essentially did not answer a single question, everything is blurry and muddy.
          1. TekhnarMAF
            +11
            April 26 2013 15: 45
            Tersky kris
            Yesterday, I gave up everything, listened to the speech. Impression? Below the city sewer! However, yesterday I spoke about the stool and Chubai-chupsik. Comrades, gentlemen, people, you didn’t understand that this was a SHOW! After all, everything was staged!
          2. +1
            April 26 2013 21: 36
            I remember the words from the song: "... as you were, so (you) remained ..." Hopes melt away.
        3. +10
          April 26 2013 10: 51
          Was anyone expecting another?
          1. late
            +3
            April 26 2013 20: 13
            Out of context, the meaning of the statement is completely different, minus you!
            1. fartfraer
              +3
              April 26 2013 20: 22
              Well, tell us briefly, in three words (there is no more need) what was the "context", the main meaning of this show? Answers to questions? Well, thanks, we already knew that Chubais would not "give up") I remember all the conversations "here in 2004 ..." or "here in 2010 ..." or "this is in the plans for 2016 ...", and the strangest thing is that they say about the same thing, only in the light of the dynamics of these statements, we will not live before fulfilling the promises. By the way, if you are not an entrepreneur yourself, ask how we do with various taxes) how it turns out that "Cypriot robbery" does not interest anyone except Cypriots and! attention! the Russian government?
              1. fartfraer
                +6
                April 26 2013 20: 25
                yes, by the way, don’t tell me how many reforms we survived with cops (sorry Ministry of Internal Affairs)? or MO? and what is the result of these reforms besides stealing money? Or can you explain why there are more officials in the Russian Federation than in the whole USSR?
                1. late
                  -1
                  April 26 2013 21: 04
                  As for entrepreneurs, I heard that the tax on their activities will depend on the level of income presented, the Ministry of Internal Affairs in my city does not beat the thumbs, one "kid" once mentioned to me that it would be nice to turn around in our region, but the police are furious, afraid to thunder on the bunk, as his "sidekick." I remember he also said, in other places it is not as strict as ours. Well, as for the officials, sorry, I have no information.
                  1. fartfraer
                    +7
                    April 26 2013 21: 15
                    "boys" then, of course, "rummage", not like the chief accountants and state-of-the-art. I will tell you so, if the state does not lie, then you will work in a minus. this applies to both the employees and the income of the entrepreneur. therefore we have glav.buhi in all ways "minimize", you have not seen purely "white" since 2006. this is so, between the times. let us return to this issue when your "kid" turns around and starts paying taxes as a legal entity. face.
                    although if you mean crime, then I'm afraid the "deployment" of your "kid" does not mean anything good for your "comers". Well, calm him down, a couple more reforms of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and for his "business" there will be a field that is not fragrant and wide horizons
                    1. late
                      +1
                      April 26 2013 22: 53
                      As for the "kid" - not d ..., he will come to his senses and understand that in the state he is not even a cog, but a micron, an infection of a rhinitis, which is not treated because of laziness, and if, after a runny nose, the temperature starts to rise, then quickly use an "antibiotic".
                2. +3
                  April 27 2013 07: 54
                  Quote: fartfraer
                  how many reforms have cops survived (sorry mvd) or MO? and what is the result of these reforms

                  aa, here let me tell you a little bit :) I do not pretend to the truth, I just have classmates after the Polytechnic in perestroika times, many went to the traffic police (and there was simply nowhere else), sometimes I meet, they share about their lives.
                  First, the "street" employees in our city were cut exactly by half. And the rest are also robust. Therefore, although the "income" has fallen, it has increased in specific terms. The "average" have now moved Nisanov and Toyota to Infiniti and Cruisers (we only have jeeps! :))) The traffic police bosses, as they drove the Mercians, and for some reason, although the prosecutor's office, in addition to the official Range Rovers for 1 and their own Cayenne Someone bought a Ferrari, someone Lamborghini, someone a simple Maserati (honestly, I don’t know why then they will not force us to make normal roads - they themselves will not pass!) "Loud" cases about paper clips in rights and otmazyvanie drunk - I hope everyone understands that it is window dressing. But with the poking of cameras, etc., the income of ordinary traffic cops fell: ((
                  But it is not all that bad! :)) In the official sections "purchases" I saw how much, for example, it cost to repaint the inscriptions of the traffic police on the traffic police - yes, for such a price, I would repaint all the cars with a brush !! :))) So, the performers - (people) - also fell :))))
        4. +8
          April 26 2013 10: 52
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In short, there will be no change for the better.

          Yes, this is a hedgehog in the forest!
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          that 30 State Duma deputies divorced effectively, so as not to declare property.

          Also heard such news. Mayhem, he is also lawlessness in Africa.
          1. Luna
            +3
            April 26 2013 20: 43
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And he also essentially answered this question when he did not answer the leading question that 30 deputies of the State Duma had divorced effectively, so as not to declare property.


            We compared data from parliamentary income declarations for 2011 and 2012 and found only five MPs who filed for divorce over the past year (all of them are men). One of them represents "United Russia", two - LDPR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. All members of the Fair Russia faction turned out to be loving husbands and wives
            http://www.politonline.ru/alternate/13428.html
      2. Reasonable, 2,3
        +5
        April 26 2013 08: 16
        Yeah, that's what they said. All over the country there will be no specifics on the box. When meeting with certain teams, it is possible.
        1. +23
          April 26 2013 10: 09
          I will not say who, but when a tall person came to our military unit, we were given a list of questions that could be asked, simply and with taste, without hiding for a day. Do not forget, we live in a legal, democratic state.
          1. +4
            April 26 2013 16: 00
            I will not say who, but when a tall person came to our military unit, we were given a list of questions that could be asked, simply and with taste, without hiding for a day. Do not forget, we live in a legal, democratic state.

            But what did not ask the right question?
      3. +15
        April 26 2013 08: 24
        Quote: bask
        1. When the government of DAMA and all the liberals are ousted.
        2. When it is forbidden to take money out and open accounts in offshore. .

        You would also ask-Who is to blame? and what to do? laughing
        1. patline
          +36
          April 26 2013 09: 10
          In my eyes, Putin’s rating went down after this broadcast.
          The President answered serious questions, as if with an eye. As if someone was standing above his soul and filtering every word.
          And the most important question was not voiced - about the nationalization of the Central Bank and the restoration of FULL independence of Russia from the Euro-dollar Koscheeva needle.
          1. +23
            April 26 2013 09: 42
            In my eyes, Putin’s rating went down after this broadcast.

            And what, were you hoping to hear from the GDP something revolutionary, breaking the prevailing stereotypes ??? If it does not bother you, then look how he answered the questions, well, for example, a year ago. One to one. Putin has become an advanced politician. Slippery, skillfully, where necessary, with metal, and ... about nothing! I was disappointed in him a long time ago. And asking him questions in order to get ANSWERS is ridiculous. So, if you just kidding ...
            1. +3
              April 26 2013 11: 10
              And vote for Zhirinovsky. Here he tells you ..
              1. +21
                April 26 2013 11: 32
                About the fact that "Who else if not Putin," said the "Leader of all nations" Dzhugashvili: "There are no irreplaceable people, there are not replaced in time!" - gold words!!!
          2. +1
            April 26 2013 12: 09
            Quote: patline
            And the most important question was not voiced - about the nationalization of the Central Bank and the restoration of FULL independence of Russia from the Euro-dollar Koscheeva needle.

            I posted a video about the Central Bank! Look at the top or bottom and look.
          3. +4
            April 26 2013 12: 48
            Quote: patline
            In my eyes, Putin’s rating went down after this broadcast. The President answered serious questions, as if with an eye. As if someone was standing above his soul and filtering every word.

            I am also disappointed with this broadcast. The first two hours, the GDP was at a loss, the impression of filtering speech was also formed. My mark NEUD.
          4. denn
            0
            April 26 2013 18: 46
            This is due to qualifications, which does not allow directness. What it consists of is another question. But in any case, there is pressure. By the way, there are videos in RuNet where Putin speaks more directly (in Krasnodar, it was like it was). Only a few know about this video, it is not advertised. There is definitely something here, and if Putin spreads the phrases, then it should be so.
            This is purely my opinion.
      4. +26
        April 26 2013 09: 41
        [quote = bask] 1.When the government of DAMA and all the liberals are ousted. [/ quote]

        Judging by Putin’s answer, after a year and a half (probably after the Olympics), it was not in vain that Kudrin’s presentation as Medvedev’s successor took place. This means that the liberal rate of monetization will not change and we will continue to pay tribute to the overseas kaganate, while in the neck of his governors, as in the times of Ivan Kalita. Kudrinsky Committee of Civil Initiatives as Advisor to the RF AP

        [quote] [quote] The Civil Initiatives Committee has already joined:
        Governor of the Kirov region Nikita Belykh,
        former co-chairman of the Union of Right Forces Leonid Gozman,
        head of the OPORA Rossii organization Sergey Borisov,
        economists Evgeny Yasin and Igor Yurgens,
        Head of the National Anti-Corruption Committee of the Russian Federation Kirill Kabanov,
        political scientist Dmitry Oreshkin,
        TV reporters Vladimir Pozner and Nikolai Svanidze,
        film director Julius Guzman
        and a number of other famous politicians and public figures (Mau and Gontmakher were also mentioned) [/ quote [/ quote]
        link
        I think there is no need to explain what kind of initiatives the abovementioned citizens will put forward. The decline in the economy is obvious, panic reports from the government on this topic come regularly. So Medvedev will receive an honorary link to the "golden parachute" in Skolkovo under the wing of Chubais and Vekselberg, and to replace the kaganate is preparing the good old horse Kudrin, which will not spoil the furrows, but will not plow deeply. So relax, the time for an open fight has not yet come.
        When will everything be alright?
        [quote] People who like to drink say: you can’t drink all the vodka, but you need to strive for this. To make everyone feel good is impossible, but we will strive for this. [/ Quote]
        Putin
        A relaxation session took place. There is no one and nothing to climb onto the barricades so far and Putin understands this, and apparently this is not his task, for him the main thing is not to lie completely under the Horde and he will not cope with this task for now.

        [quote = bask] 2.When it is forbidden to take money out and open accounts in offshore. . [/ quote]
        When the overseas Horde is covered with a copper basin and with it the dependence on the dollar and the Fed is not earlier
        1. +14
          April 26 2013 11: 30
          Quote: Ascetic
          quote]
          The Committee of Civil Initiatives has already joined:
          Governor of the Kirov region Nikita Belykh,
          former co-chairman of the Union of Right Forces Leonid Gozman,
          head of the OPORA Rossii organization Sergey Borisov,
          economists Evgeny Yasin and Igor Yurgens,
          Head of the National Anti-Corruption Committee of the Russian Federation Kirill Kabanov,
          political scientist Dmitry Oreshkin,
          TV reporters Vladimir Pozner and Nikolai Svanidze,
          film director Julius Guzman
          and a number of other famous politicians and public figures (Mau and Gontmakher were also mentioned) [/ quote

          Right ready part of the hit list.
        2. SSR
          0
          April 26 2013 11: 46
          Quote: Ascetic
          it was not for nothing that Kudrin’s presentation as Medvedev’s successor took place.

          In general, according to Putin's latest speeches ... he transfers as much as possible, so to speak, "arrows" to the Government ... even so to speak, a video behind closed doors ... like a leak ... you see, all the same, a redistribution of the spheres of influence of liberals and security officials is being prepared ...
          the question is who will push whom and who is the third group of influence? IMHA.
        3. +6
          April 26 2013 12: 54
          Quote: Ascetic
          There is no one and nothing to climb onto the barricades so far and Putin understands this, and apparently this is not his task, for him the main thing is not to lie completely under the Horde and he will not cope with this task for now.

          You know, I was unpleasantly surprised when I found out that with each currency transaction, the United States receives 0.5% of the deal from the air. The amount of 250 billion per year, it looks stunning. Yes, a tribute to the whole world of the United States overlaid. Isn’t it time to end this disgrace? Just like in the Horde it turns out. They sat on everyone’s neck, and managed to crap.
          1. +3
            April 26 2013 22: 02
            Yes, it’s time, no one thinks it’s understandable, but how? Here’s the main question. Can you imagine how many and which treaties and agreements were signed for 85-2000? Can they be unilaterally canceled without damage to the country? What sanctions can follow? ..This is where all sorts of loopholes are sought so that the country can get at least something. Okay, Putin is stupid or greedy or an agent of the West. Okay, so be it. But are there agents in China too? And China, by the way, is one of the largest holders of US debt . Something they do not present them for payment, but continue to buy ... For them, as for us, this is a necessary measure. But it will not be forever. The time will come, we will choose.
        4. +2
          April 26 2013 13: 02
          Quote: Ascetic
          Nikita Belykh,

          Quote: Ascetic
          Leonid Gozman,

          Quote: Ascetic
          Sergey Borisov,

          Quote: Ascetic
          Evgeny Yasin and Igor Yurgens,

          Quote: Ascetic
          Kirill Kabanov,

          Quote: Ascetic
          Dmitry Oreshkin,

          Quote: Ascetic
          Vladimir Pozner and Nikolai Svanidze,

          Stanislav, hi ! The main thing is that they are all "Russians" .... they will certainly change everything ...
        5. +13
          April 26 2013 14: 41
          Quote: Ascetic
          There is no one and nothing to climb onto the barricades so far and Putin understands this, and apparently this is not his task, for him the main thing is not to lie completely under the Horde and he will not cope with this task for now.


          Greetings, Stanislav.
          That's what I respect you for (seriously wink ) so this is the ability to get out of an absolutely losing situation with a proudly raised head and the consciousness of one’s rightness (I’d like that) good
          Well, it seems to everyone that everything is clear with the GDP, and then YOU appear and, lo and behold, the GDP is again, Artagnan, and everything around him is fucking ... sys. And most importantly, everyone believes you, so convincingly you set out. Well, and how not to believe it if Gozman, Guzman and Gontmakher are on one side, and Vladimir Prince of All Russia, on the other, whose main task is not to lie completely under the Horde.
          It only seems to me that the task of GDP is much more modest and somewhat different and; not give anyone a shortcut to reign, and for the sake of this, he put us all under the Horde for a long time. He laid us on top of the board, climbed onto them, along with the entire Khazar horde, and feasts for glory.
          1. +11
            April 26 2013 16: 41
            Quote: Normal
            not give anyone a shortcut to reign, and for the sake of this, he put us all under the Horde for a long time. He laid us on top of the board, climbed onto them, along with the entire Khazar horde, and feasts for glory.


            The horde issued him a shortcut in 2000 for 2 terms so that the mob would not rebel after the reign of Boriski. And he violated the contract, felt the force. Yes, and the state bureaucracy with the security forces and the military-industrial complex got stronger and didn’t give a label to reign, taking advantage of the crisis and weakening of the Horde, which caused discontent in the Horde itself and the boiling of its Basque shit on feeding in Russia. But it pays tribute regularly and the Baskakov do not offend much, so there seems to be nothing to punish. But in order for the extortioners who dance on the boards to throw off and stop paying tribute to the Horde, a new Dmitry Donskoy is needed who sent the Horde and did not pay tribute to her and not careful Kalita, only if we are ready for the Kulikovo battle with our militia and the people of the militia, and St. Seraphim alas, something is not visible on the horizon (there is no general idea. the people didn’t realize that they were mainly the main enemy, they believe the Gozman and Gontmakher), By the way, the battle didn’t solve the problem radically, it became even worse later ... So nothing surprising no, and people don’t get used to becoming as they said in the army ... but we are growing stronger, the historically proven and irrefutable credo of the Russian people.
            Somehow, in a clinic, a grandfather of 90 years old speaks nimble to such a nurse- I won the Finns, the Germans, the Japanese and the Americans won (probably in Korea), and here they say they found cancer, and I won the cancer, the doctors made a mistake ... Such a grandfather is a symbol of our inflexible spirit, the Main Spirit of the WINNERS is to save, then no authorities and foreign Hordes with local Baskaks will defeat us ... That's what the Gontmakhera want to deprive us and I just want as many people as possible to understand it differently, neither Putin, Zyuganov, nor Shoigu or what I don’t know yet another people's leader will not save us from the yoke and complete degradation ..
            1. +4
              April 26 2013 20: 29
              [quote = Ascetic] only now are we ready for the Kulikovo battle with our militia and the people of the militia, [/ quote]
              And what, nuclear food was also profiled?
              [quote = Ascetic]
              did not realize the people then still basically who is the main enemy [/ quote
              But that the Main Friend, as if not a friend, began to reach the people.

              [quote = Ascetic] The main SPIRIT of WINNERS is to save, then no authorities and foreign Hordes with local Baskaks will defeat us. [/ quote]
              Standing cancer and paying tribute? Original.
              1. 0
                April 26 2013 22: 12
                Quote: Karabin
                What, nuclear food was also profiled?

                Do you think that if we use it, the answer will not follow? Or "figs with him, with the ruble", that is, with the country and the people? Will you, in order to bring cockroaches out of the house, burn the house together with the household? I do not believe that there are such idiots. In all, you will find other methods ... So why do you want the country to use its nuclear forces? We, like North Korea, will not be allowed to threaten, but at the first threat they will extinguish.
                1. +3
                  April 26 2013 23: 40
                  Quote: Tverichanka
                  Do you think that if we use it, there will be no answer?

                  Did I say that we will be the first to use it? I just reminded Ascetic that there was something to go out on the field if he pressed.
                  Quote: Tverichanka
                  Or "figs with him, with the ruble", that is, with the country and the people?

                  And now with the ruble is not "fig"? Fluctuates with oil. The beauty and benefits of the people.
                  1. +4
                    April 27 2013 02: 32
                    Quote: Karabin
                    Did I say that we will be the first to use it? I just reminded Ascetic that there was something to go out on the field if he pressed.


                    And I forgot a sinful thing after serving 25 years in the Strategic Missile Forces and East Kazakhstan ... No Strategic Missile Forces will save from chaos in the country, as well as from the devastation in the revolutionary minds. Strategic Rocket Forces did not save the Union from collapse and defeat
              2. +4
                April 27 2013 02: 20
                Quote: Karabin
                Standing cancer and paying tribute? Original.


                starting from the New Year, many young people start terribly howling about the fact that Russia supposedly falls into the abyss .... they drink a beer with a thread at the workplace on Fridays, discuss traffic jams in Moscow, from which you can’t get anywhere quickly on a new car, and they say .... yes, everything is fine in Moscow, but in the regions ... in the regions there is chaos, people of dogs and cats eat ... soon there will be an explosion of popular anger .... to shoot all officials .... all -all ... and in the West ... it’s good .... yes, it’s good there, but it’s awful here .... and with beer, or even vodka, fill the sadness about our people ....
                And they, too, do not want to be cancer, but to be "free people in a free country" and not to pay tribute, but to collect themselves ... Nice intelligent guys with raster lists on their minds are heavier than a computer mouse, who did not hold anything in their hands ...
            2. +4
              April 26 2013 21: 22
              Quote: Ascetic
              Well, in order for the extortioners dancing on the boards to throw off and stop paying tribute to the Horde, a new Dmitry Donskoy is needed who sent the Horde and did not pay tribute to her

              Well, thanks for the excursion into the history of Ancient Russia. But Dmitry Donskoy did not fight with the yoke on the field of Kulikov, but with turmoil in the horde, and spoke on the side of the legitimate ruler of Tokhtamysh against the usurper Mamaia, who did not have legal rights to the throne. Hence Dmitry’s doubts before the performance, which were dispelled by Sergius of Radonezh, and by no means the Monk Seraphim. In general, it was a campaign of a provincial army against the rebellious part of the metropolitan army. By the way, as soon as Dmitry tried to delay the payment of tribute, Tokhtamysh quickly showed him who was the main one and burned Moscow.
              Putin does not pull on Ivan Kalita. Kalita received a provincial principality as an inheritance and left Moscow after him as a center for the unification of Russian lands. Putin received what he left behind, and it’s good if so. But with Alexander Nevsky, Putin has an analogy. Both Nevsky are in some way. Both did not resist the horde, but rather used it to strengthen their personal power.
              But all this is nothing more than our conclusions. The fact is that history is known to repeat itself. The first time is a tragedy, and it is repeated as a farce. In the days of this Farce, we are living with you. Many even like it, I don’t really.
              Quote: Ascetic
              The main thing is to save the WINNERS 'SPIRIT, then no authorities and foreign Hordes with local Baskaks will defeat us ... That's what the Gontmakhera want to deprive us and I just want as many people as possible to understand it differently, neither Putin, Zyuganov, nor Shoigu or what else I know another people's leader will not save us from the yoke and complete degradation ..

              Well, about SPIRIT OF WINNERS, Karabin already answered you, I can only join his opinion.
              Yes, and the Gontmakher would not be afraid of us if it were not for the Prince so useful. Objectively, they work for GDP, and not against it. They have formed a glorious symbiosis.
              And as for getting rid of the yoke, I wrote more than once:
              No one will give us deliverance.
              Neither God, nor King, nor Hero.
              We will achieve liberation.
              With your own hand.
          2. late
            -5
            April 26 2013 20: 23
            Who put boards on you, comrade? President of Russia ? Aw, you are not at the sawmill, even there the men no longer feast, pah, do not drink - otherwise the work will get up! )))
            1. fartfraer
              +2
              April 26 2013 20: 29
              when was the last time you sawmills?
              okay, we won’t argue, just tell us what the president is responsible for, who he appoints and that’s all. We’ll only discuss what he is responsible for. Have you agreed? I’m saying right away if not complete, but nevertheless I have a higher knowledge, I know the answers. It would be from you to hear this and discuss his work.
              while, apparently, his job is to launch Siberian Cranes into the air and put on collars on polar bears. Ah, well, he is looking for amphorae not bad.
              1. late
                0
                April 26 2013 21: 22
                Well, even my grandmother knows what he is responsible for - the guarantor of the Constitution, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, appoints plenipotentiaries of the president in the Federal Districts, it's a pity they canceled the appointment of governors to them, and so on and so on ... Do not offend polar bears and Siberian Cranes, they are few left ! You forgot your trip to Kalina, the flight to Sukhoi and Nord Stream, paved despite the obstinacy of individual European countries. I consider Putin’s good work done, especially in comparison with unfinished EBN (sorry for the syllable!).
                1. fartfraer
                  +4
                  April 26 2013 21: 37
                  you forgot that he also appoints (and removes) the prime minister, you cannot appoint ministers without his agreement, he appoints the general prosecutor and only with his appointment and with the approval of the Supreme Court are members of the Supreme Court appointed.
                  about the guarantor of the constitution (the supreme law, I dare to remind you) there is simply a vskidka the right to peaceful demonstrations, rallies as an opportunity to exercise the constitutional right to freedom of speech, it says that all citizens are equal in rights, etc. in fact, this is far from the case. so what do you think we can criticize the president for? And can we criticize the consequences of the work of his appointees?
                  1. late
                    +1
                    April 26 2013 22: 01
                    Of course, we can criticize, but constructively, suggesting our own solutions to problems. In my opinion, this is better than spraying saliva on Bolotnaya Square and dancing in temples.
                    1. fartfraer
                      +6
                      April 26 2013 22: 07
                      dear, I have nothing to do with marsh liberalism, I don’t dance in temples despite the fact that I am an atheist, if you didn’t know I bring to your attention.
                      about constructive proposals, it’s easier nowhere — the nationalization of the Central Bank, resources and the defense industry, investing money in the development of production, science. This is very short, there are detailed programs (I personally read it)) where everything is written out in steps and with possible consequences. but you need to start with the courts , the prosecutor's office and the Ministry of Internal Affairs - without the people's confidence in these institutions, no development of the state is possible, but only degradation and decay are possible
                      1. late
                        +1
                        April 26 2013 22: 24
                        You plus for the answer, we communicate well, I find!
              2. +2
                April 26 2013 22: 21
                Excuse me, please, but the higher education (unfortunately) is not an indicator of intelligence. I did not want to offend you, but it is ugly to somehow write about my education without an urgent need. You yourself have probably more than once in your life encountered people without a "tower" -smart and with those who have a couple of diplomas, and in the head, what is called a goose? Sorry again.
                1. fartfraer
                  +2
                  April 27 2013 14: 34
                  well, if you tell me, then everything is fine. I brought my unfinished tower to an indicator not to humiliate anyone, but simply to show that the question is state. I know the device and duties of state officials (higher), as well as the duties of the state before its citizens in detail, because at the faculty of law they go through. At the expense of the idea that education does not form (a free interpretation of your words) I agree with you.
            2. 0
              April 26 2013 21: 38
              Quote: spat
              Aw, you are not at the sawmill

              Hey! At the sawmill! There was no need to skip the lessons of history at school, then questions about the boards would not arise.
              1. late
                +1
                April 26 2013 21: 56
                Yes, I know this story about princes who believed the Mongols that they would be released when the Russians surrendered, and instead of freedom the princes received a terrible death, a feast on their bodies. According to the Mongols, the word given to the enemy can be broken if the enemy comes In this case, the Russian princes executed the Mongolian ambassadors, for which death is supposed. It just seems to me that these are incompatible things - the execution of our ancestors and the talk about the president of Russia.
                1. 0
                  April 26 2013 22: 08
                  Quote: spat
                  Yes i know this story

                  Very good! Sit down - 5!
                  Quote: spat
                  the execution of our ancestors

                  Oh how! And I did not know that I was talking with a princely descendant. They didn’t lead the Prince to be executed, they led the word to say!
                  Quote: spat
                  talk about the president of Russia.

                  Reread Ascetic's comment and my answer to it again. Maybe you will understand something. If the figure of GDP is sacred for you, then I cannot help you with anything. But this does not oblige me to treat him with the same reverence.
                  Your minus is returning to you, with the addition laughing
                  1. late
                    -1
                    April 26 2013 22: 21
                    I put a minus in the hope of a quick answer - and I was not mistaken! Do you know that genetically all of humanity originally descended from ten individuals? Read, this is interesting. Your "did not lead to execute" reminded me of Kramarov, apparently, you are a humorist, I hope, not by profession))). Since initially, in your opinion, I am stupid, I am too lazy to reread your answer. Yes, at least Putin is not a sacred cow, but he is definitely smarter than you, and even more so than me! Allow me to take leave, always yours, prince.
                    1. -1
                      April 26 2013 22: 55
                      Quote: spat
                      Then let me take my leave

                      Then piss off...
                    2. +2
                      April 26 2013 23: 17
                      Quote: spat
                      Minus put in the hope of a quick response - and was not mistaken

                      Bet more, they will answer you .... the same.

                      Quote: spat
                      Do you know that genetically all of humanity originally came from ten individuals?


                      No, not known. It is only known that everyone has a gene for a universal mother. I don't know anything about the "nine fathers". Enlighten if not labor.

                      Quote: spat
                      Since initially, in your opinion, I’m stupid,


                      Do not think for me and do not ascribe to me your conclusions.
                      Your post seemed pretty familiar to me, and what is hi, such is the answer.

                      Quote: spat
                      .Yes, even though Putin is not a sacred cow, he’s certainly smarter than you, well, and all the more so!


                      Well, of course! I couldn’t crush the water in the mortar for almost five hours. Yes, and I can’t do much of what Putin can do. But still, I will repeat after Alexei Romanov:

                      It seemed to me without my ideas.
                      The world will not be able to live a day.
                      But it turned out that the world is full of people.
                      And everyone is smarter than me.
                      Why so many years.
                      Does color change lazily?
                      And the wise men wander for fools.
                      Trace next

                      Quote: spat
                      Then let me take my leave, always yours, prince.

                      Well, one more "prince" on my neck. belay
                      And about "let them take their leave" - ​​"And you, prince, the path is clear." hi
                      1. late
                        +1
                        April 27 2013 19: 45
                        Well, once my path is clear, then I went! )))))
      5. +17
        April 26 2013 09: 55
        The answer was - Serdyuklv and Chubais are not guilty - and therefore DAM ...
      6. asavchenko59
        +8
        April 26 2013 10: 57
        When will the president answer the investigator's questions?
        1. 0
          April 27 2013 06: 19
          he will not - he will send a confidant lol
      7. warm
        +6
        April 26 2013 11: 26
        Quote: bask
        1. When the government of DAMA and all the liberals are ousted.

        Cho, again, the good King does not know anything? and, as always, the good Tsar doesn’t matter, is it sent by the mishandled Cossacks? laughing

        Quote: bask
        2. When it is forbidden to take money out and open accounts in offshore. .

        and how, then, to "earn" the Tsar's people !? After all, they will go around the world with outstretched hand!
      8. +8
        April 26 2013 12: 49
        The State Duma has not long ago banned having foreign accounts abroad, but said nothing about the ban on having real estate abroad. The excuses of the GDP are surprising that the court has the right to put Serdyukov and Vasilyev on, they say if the court acquits them, then the authorities have nothing to do with it, as if the court is independent, if it is necessary to put, they will be sentenced, there will be no acquittal or conditional punishment
        1. +8
          April 26 2013 13: 33
          Quote: elmir15
          as if our court is independent, if you need to be imprisoned, will be imprisoned, no acquittal or conditionally punished

          I will continue the thought. And as if the GDP does not know that the activity of the courts of the Russian Federation supports only 20% of the population.
          1. +4
            April 26 2013 20: 09
            Quote: Garrin
            I will continue the thought. And as if the GDP does not know that the activity of the courts of the Russian Federation supports only 20% of the population.

            After such court decisions there is nothing to be surprised.
    2. +8
      April 26 2013 10: 40
      Quote: regin
      THE SHOW GOES ON......

      That you just noticed. Well, in confirmation of your words, I will post a video that everyone should watch!
    3. +10
      April 26 2013 12: 08
      From the next message of GDP to the people-

      GDP - "... This year we began to live better ..."

      People - "We are happy for you ...!


      You can’t add anything here especially after that - ... Vladimir Putin said that it is necessary to distinguish theft from inefficient investment. Today, according to the president, Rusnano’s losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles, and the president does not see a crime here ...
      1. warm
        +8
        April 26 2013 12: 15
        Quote: sancho
        You can’t add anything here especially after that

        Well Duc with an amount of more than 500 suspects automatically go into the category of witnesses;)
        1. +2
          April 26 2013 18: 01
          About witnesses super + 100500 good
    4. +19
      April 26 2013 14: 28
      Yesterday I watched online this line with Putin, my nerves survived only the first one and a half hours, then I banally regretted my monitor and turned it off. All this resembles a big top circus, he did not answer anything concrete, he is asked about one thing, and he talks about something else, he did not like the position either according to Chubais or Serdyukov, now it is clear why they are not sitting yet. According to the housing and communal services, it’s just an epic answer when they showed receipts of people from St. Petersburg and Perm and they showed the fact that for the year prices did not increase by 6%, but already in 13 (!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!) once he said, you need to return the money to the people. Super, otherwise we don’t know that they need to be returned am In short, jumped off the topic. And about the inefficient investment of the red rat, did he even create something at all? I could not even make a tablet, I agree even if they did at least something and slowly moved forward with a creak. But epona mother! In the USA, we have already created nano-fibers and created them 2 of our scientists who emigrated to the USA, only yesterday I read the news on warfiles. Why can't you steal technology from Samsung or Apple on the same tablets? In short, the hand washes a hand. Yesterday I was angry all day yesterday, the only thing that pleases me at least is the rearmament, which, although it comes with a creak, but still does, in the remaining areas of our life there is no progress at all, and it’s time to start. Zadolbalo is already such an attitude towards the people.
      1. Genady1976
        +5
        April 26 2013 19: 24
        And I didn’t look at this garbage once, I don’t have to work anymore and what is the GDP raving about
        do not care. I'm waiting for our CPSU to come. Not the Communist Party and the Communist Party.
    5. +2
      April 26 2013 22: 44
      <<< Here it must be admitted that the head of state once again, answering the question about the progress of the investigation into the Oboronservis case, proceeded to what is usually called "spreading thoughts along the tree >>>
      This is clearly not the answer that society expected after its previous strong statements about the fight against corruption. There are more and more signs (and statements that today it is not 37th, and the slowness of justice, and an increasingly obvious desire to re-qualify the case for the main defendants in excess of authority) that this criminal "Santa Barbara" will end only with the condemnation of the switchmen! In other words, pursuing an obvious policy so that the sheep are safe and the wolves are fed, the President either deliberately "slows down" or does not dare to infringe on the interests of the WOLVES and, judging by Forbes magazine, they continue to feel great despite any crises and only breed, which cannot be said about the rest of the people!
  2. +28
    April 26 2013 07: 16
    I’m disappointed with the president’s answers (to really questions on the CASE), without specifics, around the bush ... Toli Putin became different ...
    1. +30
      April 26 2013 07: 27
      Quote: Denis
      Toli Putin has become different ...

      Either skis do not ride request
    2. +12
      April 26 2013 07: 44
      Just now, I also noticed that Putin was just talking. But in the case, it is doubtful ...
      1. +4
        April 26 2013 10: 28
        And when did he have affairs? I mean for the benefit of the People and the State? Although, I forgot, the people and the state are THEY, GODS ...
    3. +15
      April 26 2013 07: 48
      Quote: Denis
      Toli Putin has become different ...

      Yeah, got old. The forces are not the same, Schaub as a slave is on the galleys.
      PS for Vladimir Vladimirovich: One year is enough for the people to understand in which direction and at what pace you are this gallery, that is, the country you are leading.
      1. +21
        April 26 2013 08: 08
        Quote: Ustas
        One year is enough for the people to understand in which direction and at what pace you are taking this gallery, that is, the country, leading

        there was an interesting question-answer about the ministers that they have been working for a year, it’s too early to judge. Cool :) Minister what works as a design engineer? Does something invent that he is not enough? He is a leader, his task is to manage and direct people, means and resources so that they work in the same way, etc. Those. it is a system, a machine. There are such concepts as power and delegation of authority, leadership styles, management methods and forms, etc. Who cares - read. And here it turns out, the minister - works alone for himself :)
        1. +19
          April 26 2013 08: 27
          Yeah, with such a buildup and such leaders in 1941, the Nazis would have reached Vladik in 1,5 months. Although no, they put these hands leading to the wall, without swinging.
    4. krest.ros
      +11
      April 26 2013 08: 06
      He betrayed his thin ins and outs without noticing it.
    5. Alexander-81
      +28
      April 26 2013 08: 37
      Reminds of TV in the nineties "Put a can of water close to the TV screen" and everyone will heal well and so on and so forth laughing . (conversation) killed, expected more!
      1. 755962
        +18
        April 26 2013 09: 34
        Someone from the Great and the Wise said: "When the shepherd is changed, only the flock thinks that the owner is changing."
    6. +6
      April 26 2013 09: 42
      Quote: Denis
      Disappointed by the president’s answers (to really questions on the CASE), without specifics, around the bush ..

      Also completely disappointed, although he did not expect anything else.
      Well, well, as our colleague Eugene says:
      Glory to Russia !!! Glory to Putin !!!
    7. +3
      April 26 2013 10: 47
      Quote: Denis
      Toli Putin has become different ...

      Well no. He was what he was! Watch this video !!! Just tin !!! I'm just in shock !!!
      1. vladsolo56
        +1
        April 26 2013 17: 50
        Stunned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        no words, but all the supporters of Putin will still shout that he simply does not know.
        1. 0
          April 27 2013 01: 56
          I am joining. I advise you to watch these videos a lot becomes clear. It's a pity that this is not shown on TV
        2. +1
          April 27 2013 01: 57
          I join the video, it opens up a lot or introduces it into stap - WHO TO BELIEVE? It turns out that from TV screens we are loaded with enemies of Russia in the West, inside Russia - liberals and everyone who is against the government, show Putin’s steps are right, and after watching this video, it turns out that each step has a double meaning, if not more, of which of course we don’t we guess. It turns out that everyone plays their roles: the West scolds Putin, thereby playing up to the falling power rating, the liberals are not far behind inside the country, they know their job - to criticize Putin’s tireless power, thereby setting the masses against themselves (sacrificing themselves) and thereby whitewashing Putin .. .. Some questions ??? Well, let's say the GDP is a double agent, but then it doesn’t agree with his efforts in raising the army !!! It seems to me that the West does not like the strengthening of the Russian army, then where is the logic? Although if you play the conspiracy theory again - the West may once again play its role - “in indignation at the strengthening of the Russian army”, thereby trying to convince the Russian population that GDP and power are doing everything right. I have some questions ... Politicians, the media caress the brain, there is an information war. Maybe my thoughts by ear will seem intricate to someone, but I want to warn these opinions only presumptive and are largely interrogative in nature. In the end, this site is for the expression of your thoughts and enrich yourself with other points of view and opinions.
          1. +3
            April 27 2013 02: 33
            Quote: elmi
            Although if you play the conspiracy theory again - the West may once again play its role - “in indignation at the strengthening of the Russian army”, thereby trying to convince the Russian population that the GDP and the authorities are doing everything right. I have some questions ...

            But the West does not need to attack us either, they are already gradually taking our resources to themselves.
      2. +2
        April 27 2013 02: 20
        Yeah, the video is good, be sure to watch to the end. It enriches and changes views on power. It's time to change the power for a long time. But whom? Of the former politicians in power, I like Primakov, but unfortunately he is elderly. And after all, you won’t achieve anything by voting in the elections ... after all, as they say, the winner is not the one who votes, but the one who counts the votes. Naturally, under the strict guidance of the governor appointed by the president, and if he wants to leave the post, he will make every effort to achieve the desired result.
        1. +1
          April 27 2013 07: 05
          How interesting it is to read - and who besides Putin? Yes, no one! you might think you and I will be allowed to put whoever we want as president. And if we start to stage, they will say: "Revolution!", Declare about human rights, and immediately bring a new "Entente" to us. The entire elite, from the most "fucked up" deputy to the highest minister, have indulged in corruption at least once in their lives. Well, if this is so, then they keep quiet - as if they themselves could become defendants. And you ask - who besides GDP? That's why there is no - because everyone is the same, and he represents them. And if you are honest and incorruptible - that is 9 grams in the cranial model "Homo protestorus". Only the GDP has a worse problem - money friends are the worst of enemies because they will substitute more abruptly the most terrible enemy.
    8. +12
      April 26 2013 11: 00
      Quote: Denis
      Disappointed by the answers of the president.


      I was enough for half an hour, "suffocated" in the "fog" put on by the president.

      Here are just the media and all kinds of research centers of public opinion, apparently, will give out an exorbitant "jump" in the president's rating and a significant increase in "approvals!" his works....
  3. Vanek
    +9
    April 26 2013 07: 19
    On the deterioration of relations between Russia and the West

    At their hat Nem, comora bit the barn. Swollen.

    Show mast go he.
    1. +12
      April 26 2013 07: 26
      Quote: Vanek
      Show mast go he.

      Which in translation into Russian means the circus left and the clowns remained wassat
      1. Vanek
        +7
        April 26 2013 07: 28
        Quote: Ruslan67
        What's in translation


        - What time is the meeting?
        - Hours at 5, at 6. .. Well, yes, somewhere at 7, 8.

        Ruslan hi
        1. +3
          April 26 2013 07: 33
          Ivan! Greetings hi
        2. 0
          April 26 2013 21: 37
          Quote: Vanek
          - What time is the meeting?
          - Hours at 5, at 6. .. Well, yes, somewhere at 7, 8.

          Yes, probably not ......
    2. +47
      April 26 2013 07: 32
      Quote: Vanek
      At their hat Nem, comora bit the barn.

      Vanya, hi ! quote: Today, according to the president, Rusnano’s losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles, and the president does not see a crime here. , That's right, is it a crime, steal further gentlemen, 2,5 billion for such a rich state is just a trifle, it’s better that I’m transplanting about ten men on a bag of a potato, but don’t touch Tolik (and one and the other). Who will loot at the next election ...
      A century and a half has passed, but nothing has changed .....
      1. +20
        April 26 2013 07: 40
        Quote: Tersky
        A century and a half has passed, but nothing has changed .....

        Has changed request They used to drink and steal, but now they are fermenting and grabbing negative
        1. Vanek
          +9
          April 26 2013 07: 48
          Quote: Ruslan67
          They used to drink and steal, but now they are fermenting and grabbing


          The cover has changed, the content is left.
          1. +9
            April 26 2013 07: 50
            Quote: Vanek

            The cover has changed, the content is left.

            But this is unlikely! If you drank the same as before you look dope would be less in my head
            1. +5
              April 26 2013 08: 00
              Quote: Ruslan67
              If you drank the same as before you look dope would be less in my head

              Ruslan, they still drink what they drank before. Rather, they didn’t finish it: a hundred-year-old wine, bottled cognac from 1900 wink
              1. +7
                April 26 2013 08: 03
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                century-old wines, 1900 cognac bottling wink

                They would have to remind a screw 1789 g or cognac 1793 At worst, Shustovsky 17 wassat
                1. +5
                  April 26 2013 08: 15
                  Quote: Ruslan67

                  They would like to remind a screw 1789 g or cognac 1793

                  Ruslan, did not fall Abramovich and our deputies living on a salary winked
                  1. +8
                    April 26 2013 08: 19
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    and our deputies living on a salary

                    Whose? what
          2. Jin
            +1
            April 26 2013 14: 30
            Quote: Vanek
            The cover has changed, the content is left.


            Yeah, and this has become fashionable) militia-police, etc. constant change of scenery) From such a kaleidoscope of a head around wassat
      2. krest.ros
        +6
        April 26 2013 08: 16
        A century and a half has passed, but nothing has changed .....
        How much has changed. Dostoevsky prophesied. Under him, the beginnings of today's problems in Russia sprouted. In tsarist times, although they drank and stole, but not on such a scale. Previously, they were sent to Siberia on "galleys" for crimes against the state, but today they are under house arrest in the royal chambers.
        1. +3
          April 26 2013 08: 21
          Quote: krest.ros
          Previously, they were sent to Siberia on "galleys" for crimes against the state, but today they are under house arrest in the royal chambers.

          It would be good to apply such practice now. Entih from the chorus to us ships in Sibil on coal mines, and we here in theirs mansions. laughing
          1. +6
            April 26 2013 09: 52
            They sent to the mines, but not stolen officials ....... nothing has changed .... there was a short period during the reign of one Soviet Georgian when it was possible to turn the tide, but this is not humane, does not meet the standards !!!)) )))
            1. +1
              April 26 2013 12: 03
              Quote: Patton5
              but it’s not humane, does not meet the standards !!!))))

              Is it humane to mock people?
        2. 0
          April 26 2013 08: 28
          Quote: krest.ros
          ... In tsarist times, although they drank and stole, but not on such a scale. Previously, they were sent to Siberia on "galleys" for crimes against the state, but today they are under house arrest in the royal chambers.


          Here you are completely wrong, in the tsarist time of the state. must have been given "for feeding" especially distinguished, and embezzlement was not considered a vice at all. Remember at least AD Menshikov - a great statesman, an excellent military leader, and no less a great gas stealer !!!
          1. +8
            April 26 2013 09: 00
            Quote: kostella85
            Remember at least Menshikov A. D. - a great statesman, an excellent commander, and no less a great gaznokrad !!!

            At the same time, Pyotr Lekseich for the supply of rotten cloth for uniforms to the army: "beat him mercilessly, with a stick and a copper globe" and forced at own expense to put the whole cloth on the whole army!
            XXXX
            Do you want to take anything as an example for the current "leaders"?
          2. krest.ros
            +3
            April 26 2013 13: 28
            Why remember the Menshikovs? It’s better to recall Russian entrepreneurship in the person of: Stroganovs, Nikitins, Botashevs, Maltzovs, Ryabushinsky, Prokhorovs, Kokorevs and others.
        3. -1
          April 26 2013 09: 46
          Funny !!!! Previously, the trees were higher, and breathed more freely))))
      3. +4
        April 26 2013 11: 15
        Quote: Tersky
        A century and a half has passed, but nothing has changed .....

        And it will not change until society begins to ask the authorities for the full program!
        1. not good
          +1
          April 26 2013 21: 25
          Gumilyom formulated the concept of PASSIONARITY (passionarity of power), if abbreviated something like this: ... micromutation in the hormonal system of the body ... creating a new behavioral trait ... a painful desire for power ... moral standards are forgotten in the first place.
          So that 3 terms will not be enough fourth ....
  4. Sewer
    +15
    April 26 2013 07: 20
    There was nothing about the answers at all! The question was asked, and the answer was generally almost always taken in a different direction! Not about Serdyukov, not about Chuba, nothing about the normal answer! Everything is veiled, and sometimes it’s just a mockery! With such answers, obviously not to raise authority!
    1. +18
      April 26 2013 07: 44
      Quote: Sewer
      There was nothing to answer at all! A question was asked, but the answer was generally almost always taken in a different direction!


      I watched from beginning to end, I completely agree with Sewer! From 288 minutes, 30 minutes, he had a nice conversation with A.L. Kudrin (pop .. they can’t at home, probably), from the specifics, only a playground in the Far East, everything else is a departure from the topic. There were two acute interesting questions: about Chubais and Taburetkin. The most interesting show for 11 years !!!
    2. +10
      April 26 2013 08: 01
      Quote: Sewer
      The answers were nothing at all

      Well, if there’s nothing, here’s the playground laughing
      1. -1
        April 26 2013 10: 57
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, if there’s nothing, here’s the playground

  5. do not burn bonfires
    +37
    April 26 2013 07: 20
    The bottom line is this!
  6. +9
    April 26 2013 07: 27
    There were a lot of noodles, as always, but with carrots it’s getting worse, but this is to blame ... the Western crisis. wink
  7. pinecone
    +8
    April 26 2013 07: 30
    Everything around and around, and with ridiculous things.
    1. Sewer
      +5
      April 26 2013 08: 34
      Indeed, serious questions are being asked to him, and he, as a stoned person, was laughing and having fun!
      1. +5
        April 26 2013 11: 56
        Quote: pinecone
        Everything around and around, and with ridiculous things.

        Quote: Sewer
        Indeed, serious questions are being asked to him, and he, as a stoned person, was laughing and having fun!

        Quote: Sewer
        More like not a joke, but a mockery: "Don't bother people to steer."

        Quote: Sewer
        To him, and before the election, all the ratings for .... uh there were the elections themselves and we all taken together are plebeians.

        Yeah! All right, say it! It’s time for us all to wake up. Not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine! Things are worse there than ours!
    2. AK-47
      +5
      April 26 2013 10: 17
      Quote: pinecone
      Everything around and around, and with ridiculous things.

      From Putin's answers:
      ... inflate your gills
      ...sputter,
      ... exhume this "dead man",
      ... "The net, he does not want to work,"
      ... the bunk remained unfastened and the grill cleaned

      He is well, ratings do not care, far from the elections he allowed himself to relax.
      More like a joke, but a mockery:"Don't bother people to steer."
      1. +5
        April 26 2013 10: 37
        To him, and before the election, all the ratings for .... uh there were the elections themselves and we all taken together are plebeians.
      2. +3
        April 26 2013 12: 56
        Valery, well, of those answers that you gave, only the first, second and fourth belong to Putin. The rest - the author, so to speak, comments to the answers of the president.
        1. AK-47
          +1
          April 26 2013 17: 53
          Quote: Volodin
          The rest is copyright, so to speak, comments on the president’s answers.

          Sorry Alexey, but they are so in his manner that it’s not difficult to make a mistake.
          For example:
          If the brains drain, then they are.
          If a person is satisfied with everything, then he is a complete id_iot.
          He could only put in his pants ...
          Let your wife learn to cook.
          “We don’t need a military base in Cuba!”
          ... we’ll catch in the toilet, and we will soak them in the toilet, in the end.
          ... I plowed like a slave in the galleys, from morning to night.
          They will not receive the Pytalovsky district, but ears from a dead donkey.
          Will we chew snot here for years?
          If grandmother had certain sexual characteristics ...
          Do they paint on eggs? I don’t know what they draw there ...
          ... when I started having sex ... I can determine to the nearest minute.
          Yes, they all lie! What do you want? So I ate the earth from the pot ...
          All digged out of the nose and smeared on their pieces of paper ...
  8. Nikolko
    +35
    April 26 2013 07: 32
    I watched this broadcast from start to finish, and even if I honestly, as a Putin supporter, the answers about Chubais and defense service were simply morally killed. Even down and a complete nerd litter that they (Serdyukov Smetanova, etc.) deserved a real life term in some kind of Vorkute !!!!!
    1. +9
      April 26 2013 07: 48
      Quote: Nikolko
      .Even down and a complete nerd litter that they (Serdyukov Smetanova, etc.) have earned a real life in either Vorkuta !!!!!


      That's it: Putin is not down, and Toliki are friends (accomplices) !!!
    2. ABV
      +15
      April 26 2013 08: 33
      and about 2 billion? what is it? - well, they did not invest correctly .... well, not targeted spending .... but did not steal it! and now what? reward? I wonder how under Stalin would have done with such an "effective" manager?
      and yet, he worked together with the CIA, as it turned out .... well, nothing that doesn’t happen to anyone ... I'm in shock!
    3. +3
      April 26 2013 10: 41
      Not in any, but ours, native, Soviet. The Higher School of re-education and cleansing of conscience, the revival of morality and love for the motherland and people.
    4. +4
      April 26 2013 22: 44
      Quote: Nikolko
      with just killed morally

      Dear young man, do you hope you have heard about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Can you imagine HOW the citizens of the country were morally killed at that moment? It turns out, they talked and talked about the inadmissibility of fascism and friendship is with you for ever and ever !! This is you and I today we know why I.V. Stalin concluded such an agreement, but my father studied at the flight school at that time and recalled the shocked state of cadets ... So there is much in the world that becomes obvious after decades, and sometimes hundreds of years. You don’t have to talk about the yoke? But it also lasted almost three hundred years. And three or four generations died, never knowing that Russia was liberated .... I’m writing to you that you should not make hasty conclusions, moreover, when life experience is also lacking ... I wish you all the best and be healthy and prosperous. You will survive and see a liberation from what is today.
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 22: 51
        Personally, this "yoke" has been going on for me for 15 years (my wife is Tatar (they are beautiful, you can't write anything)), but nothing, I somehow endure (I love her infection)
        1. not good
          +1
          April 26 2013 23: 58
          Liberation from what is today can be different, wherever you shove it, for someone it is still liberation, but in a generation they will consider sho and boolean, like the Jews after Moses. Only suddenly, if they also release those who agree with everything from the Motherland, then there will be no need to "cure" others.
  9. +1
    April 26 2013 07: 36
    There were no really sharp questions
    1. +11
      April 26 2013 10: 47
      There were "sharp" answers))
      About the CIAshnikov how they worked in the government and the official is still in office ....
      About billions improperly invested by effective managers ....
      Laughs almost all out of place ....
      It turns out that Kudrin called back, recognized as the most effective "plunderer" of the country.
      and continuous dregs ...

      Oh guys I feel I have to defend my homeland with another commander in chief ....
      Vova sintered)))
  10. +19
    April 26 2013 07: 37
    If these questions were in private and without cameras, I think each of us from the answers received hair would move, would be on the whole body. It can be seen that he was picking up words with difficulty, but what was said is said! I’m not bloodthirsty, but I was extremely indignant about the redhead, yes, he doesn’t work in the government, but easily damages him and the whole country. Glazyev and Dostoevsky are enemies number 1, have long been missing fingers from all his statements, and patience even more so! I wanted to make a schedule of successes in his work (if there are any more). And the CIA agents ....... belay it's just pearl, they were put in the states because they steal !!! I'm not from cancer-war-depression, I will surely die of laughter soon hi
    1. +1
      April 27 2013 01: 08
      If you find out that among the builders of the house in which you live there were active Chechen terrorists, then having learned this information will you discuss the meaning of what was said or the tone in which it was said?
      You will probably ask questions:
      1. Why did they come here for what purpose?
      2. Who did they contact and what did they leave behind?
      3. How safe is the house? Maybe somewhere in it laid a land mine?
      So it surprises me that no one asks such elementary questions regarding CIA agents who took an active part in the construction of our common home - Russia.
  11. vladsolo56
    +4
    April 26 2013 07: 41
    And I did not expect anything new, I am even surprised by those people who are satisfied with the statements that everything is fine in the country, that corruption has been won, I wonder if Putin says that our prices are not rising, then there are those who will believe. Since the president said that they are not growing, then they are not growing, and it does not matter what is in the shops on the shelves. I marvel at the naivety and credulity of our citizens.
    1. +2
      April 26 2013 08: 30
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And I did not expect anything new, I am even surprised by those people who are satisfied with the statements that everything is fine in the country, that corruption has been won, I wonder if Putin says that our prices are not rising, then there are those who will believe. Since the president said that they are not growing, then they are not growing, and it does not matter what is in the shops on the shelves. I marvel at the naivety and credulity of our citizens.

      And Putin didn’t say anything.
      1. vladsolo56
        0
        April 26 2013 09: 24
        Well, so to speak, everything has its time.
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 09: 27
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Well, so to speak, everything has its time.

          Well, as he says then we’ll talk.
    2. Rrv
      Rrv
      -1
      April 26 2013 18: 14
      Quote: vladsolo56
      I marvel at the naivety and credulity of our citizens.


      This is not naivety and not gullibility - this is idiocy, the basis of which is an introduced system of beliefs of a masochistic nature, unwillingness to think and unwillingness to decide something independently.

      The psychology of the herd.
      1. +2
        April 26 2013 22: 54
        Quote: RRV
        The psychology of the herd.

        And how do you like, nothing lives among idiots? Why on earth have you insulted people? And me including? How do you know about my psychology-what is it? Herd, not herd? Do you have a conscience? Not a single DECENT person, even the fervor of dikussia will not allow itself to do the same. It's how you need to despise your people in order to make such assessments ... But shirts rip on your chest from patriotism! And patriotism is including respect for compatriots. We will cease to be (yes we already cease) to be one people, if we allow such things! SHAMBLE !!!!!!!
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          +1
          April 26 2013 23: 53
          You yourself ranked yourself among people whose actions could not be called idiocy, then you decided to be offended by a statement of fact, but am I to blame?

          Your psychology So, a choice similar to yours is made by people either snatching their piece and spitting on everyone else, or pathological believers who are looking for a guide or leader who will decide for them and save them from the need to think, understand, make decisions.

          If I had no conscience, I would support your idol.
          In your opinion, a decent person should be silent when inadequate, sincerely believing that he knows how to fly, trying to hang from the roof of a skyscraper?

          To make such assessments, one must not despise the people, but be realistic. But the one who really despises the people, of which I am a part, twisting a silly face may well afford to say to the whole world "she drowned."

          I don’t tear my shirt, I’m not looking for refuge, and I don’t use sly definitions of patriotism.

          But at the expense of the people - I agree, the division is progressing - and in all conceivable vectors. But the problem is that if we do not allow confrontation and silently observe the movement towards the abyss, then we will find ourselves in the abyss in any case, and at least there is a chance.
  12. +24
    April 26 2013 07: 42
    However, what a talent! Almost five hours around, and about no specifics hi
    1. Alexander-81
      +7
      April 26 2013 08: 59
      Susanin is modern. lol
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 13: 00
        I twist, twist, I want to confuse)
  13. +3
    April 26 2013 07: 47
    The negative of people gets younger very quickly, everything will be much worse.
  14. +2
    April 26 2013 07: 47
    about the case of the Ministry of Defense, the answer is so rotten ... I didn’t expect this from Vovan sad
  15. +7
    April 26 2013 07: 51
    All the same, he covers his cattle robbing Russia for billions. He didn’t become intelligible. He gave him his vote in vain last year, although there are no alternatives yet. Everyone is mired in theft. He needs fresh blood. He lowers himself with his relationship with Vasilyeva and Serdyukov. below the baseboard and the fact that in the regions they steal and doctors don’t get money, and the governor is not responsible either. There is no power, only one name remains
    1. Rrv
      Rrv
      +6
      April 26 2013 18: 22
      What is no alternative? Violation by the Government of all conceivable laws and norms, theft and destruction of the country? )))

      You know, Igor, it is precisely thanks to the fact that many have seized upon this "there is no alternative" that we are where we are.

      Isn’t the election to try new people in power in action? And if no one has tried anyone for 13 years, then how can one say with confidence that there is no alternative?
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 23: 01
        It is not necessary to drink kerosene in order to understand that this does not need to be done. It is not always the replacement of one with the other that gives the desired result. It is not always possible for a person to act at will, not taking into account the interests of the others .... So your statement is very debatable.
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          +1
          April 26 2013 23: 26
          Quote: Tverichanka
          It is not necessary to drink kerosene to understand that this does not need to be done. It is not always the replacement of one with the other gives the desired result ...


          I completely agree, especially since replacing EBNya with Pu perfectly illustrates this.


          Quote: Tverichanka
          Not always a person can act at will, not taking into account the interests of others ...


          In this case, we see that acting contrary to the interests of 75% of citizens is quite possible.

          Answer me - on the basis of what facts do you think that the processes occurring over the past 13 years are positive?
  16. +10
    April 26 2013 07: 53
    What good are you to God, like children. Say, we thought that "Santa Claus" would "give" everyone what they wished for themselves, but he, not so good, presented cheap "barbarisks". This is primarily a SHOW. Show for the West. Anyone else, but in the context I heard a lot of interesting things. Or what, Everyone thought that Putin would take kaaak now, kaaak would put everyone in prison? Yes, if this happens, then in place of those who are now in power, such scumbags will come - it will not seem few. The country will again plunge into chaos. And as long as I can remember, all such performances were similar. Although during his speech, I noticed a couple of times that Putin really wanted to answer "after his mother". But don’t know, protocol is their mother.

    PS For the sake of jokes, now I looked at some congress of the CPSU, a speech by Brezhnev. This is where mortal anguish is, the hall is on the verge of falling asleep, the boring faces of members of the Politburo. After 10 minutes of viewing, I completely lost the meaning of what the Secretary General was talking about. As the saying goes - Feel the difference laughing
    1. +9
      April 26 2013 08: 16
      Quote: Averias
      For the sake of fun, I now looked at some congress of the CPSU, a speech by Brezhnev. This is where mortal longing is, the hall is on the verge of falling asleep, the boring faces of members of the Politburo. After 10 minutes of viewing, I completely lost the meaning of what the Secretary General was talking about. As the saying goes - Feel the difference

      DUK! How old was Brezhnev at that congress? we still have everything ahead of us, what our years are :)))
      1. +6
        April 26 2013 08: 30
        Quote: Egen
        DUK! How old was Brezhnev at that congress? we still have everything ahead of us, what our years are :)))

        Exactly!!! +++++++
        It's only the beginning!!! laughing
    2. +18
      April 26 2013 08: 27
      The downside was obvious, I was just waiting for a slap. I once wrote about the game of the switchman and the irrepressible desire to do something yourself. When the President does what We like (what We have come up with in our heads, and believe that it is right) - HE is good. As soon as not according to ours - everything, the bad one is to blame for all our troubles. And what about the lambs of God? Was it the President (deliberately not writing Putin) forced us to vote with foam from the mouth for Gorbachev, Yeltsin? They chose Gorbachev, fell for "freedom and democracy, glasnost and other rubbish), here, eat. I just don't want to get drunk on this" freedom ". While the people blinded by this" freedom "were eating vodka under the" incendiary "speeches of Plyugavy, the crooks plundered the country And we applauded, disarmament - DAAA, Uraa comrades (the US and NATO are now a friend to us, there are no enemies) Closing of factories - DAAA, Uraaa comrades (the West will feed us and fill up with goods, filled up with shit). And again let’s choose another, now it’s for sure, now for sure. They chose EBNa, they say here is a man like that, a "Severe Ural guy", and it’s not a mistake to drink vodka, and sing songs with the people. again a discrepancy came out, in a drunken stupor, EBN ruined the country before, one SORP agreement is worth it. And again we are indignant, again we are looking for the guilty as if it was not we who chose these “Leaders.” How to blame We are the first, but how to keep the answer - there is nobody Putin is to blame for the fact that the wires from the power lines are cut off, any ki sewer steal, screws and nuts from factories tyryat (although they are not needed, but tyryat). Beer bottles are beaten near the urns. On the road they are rude, they do not read books, children are brought up in dislike of those who are more successful in this life. As prof. Preobrazhensky - Ruin in the heads.
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 08: 57
        Averias

        You +++++++++++++++++ 100500 XNUMX good good good
      2. Sewer
        -2
        April 26 2013 09: 36
        I agree, as in the song, Uncle Vova is guilty that the cat left the kittens!
        1. +3
          April 26 2013 11: 22
          Quote: Sewer
          I agree, as in the song, Uncle Vova is guilty that the cat left the kittens!

          Kindergarten! negative
      3. ttttt
        +17
        April 26 2013 09: 45
        Is Putin to blame for the fact that the wires from the power lines are cut off, the sewer manholes are stolen, the screws and nuts are being poked from the factories (although they are not needed but they are poked). Beer bottles are being beaten near ballot boxes. They are rude on the roads, they don’t read books, they bring up children in hate for those who are more successful in this life. As prof. Preobrazhensky - Devastation in the minds.


        Yes! Putin! I'm sorry! For 12 years, this element of the J-dock layout has been "effectively managing" but the result? The host of metropolitan and not only parasites have been raised, and the people in the hinterland are dying. The Jewish media distort the worldview of the Russian man as they want, turning him into a stupid cattle-like consumer b_dlo, and this t_ar has the audacity to mock us from the TV screens. The media made a pygmy - a superhero and we believed in their tales. Time is running out, in 2012 Putin was given the last credit of public confidence for decisive action, they do not exist, which means that the "national leader" does not have the will, instead, the wiring continues. On Red Square there should be a block and an ax stuck into it, so that those in power would understand what would happen to them if the people were brought in. In general, 2013 should be the last year for Putin, if he does not deal with the whole liberal bastard. From this second, this is his last chance! Time has gone.
        1. Sewer
          +4
          April 26 2013 10: 41
          Talking about the chopping block is easy, but only you yourself can easily be on it, thanks to the same fiery young people! That this is his last chance, they have been writing for at least five years, and that time has passed, he’s in power, and nowhere to go gone, and time too!
          1. ttttt
            +6
            April 26 2013 11: 20
            I am far from young. Let's live the 13th to the end. The denouement is near. But I really do not want that, as a result of our misunderstanding of those processes that are taking place in the world, and our unwillingness to participate in them and act decisively, we Russians fell.
            1. Sewer
              0
              April 26 2013 13: 05
              I wish you no less than your peace in Russia and Russian people!
            2. +1
              April 26 2013 23: 26
              And why did you decide that there is a misunderstanding of the "processes"? Yes, you will not wait for us to fall, you will not wait !!!!! And do not dream !!! Well-wishers are me too ....
        2. 0
          April 26 2013 16: 00
          Quote - "Yes! Putin! To blame! This element is 12 years old"

          Question one - Why do you say "HIS" and not say "US" (I mean the people). It turns out anyone but you?
          Question two - Why do you allow all these things that you write so angrily about to be done with you?
          The third question - who were you allowed to call Him "t_ar"? This characterizes you from a bad side, I would say more ...
          And the beginning of your comment just confirms what I described in my second post. We are looking for the extreme again, looking for the one who would do everything for us.
          And the ending of your commentary - well, just a "masterpiece". Did you start the countdown for him? You will definitely not die from modesty. Moderate ambition.
          1. +1
            April 26 2013 23: 30
            But he doesn’t have our flag either ... All that remains is for all the other former compatriots in the USSR to start pouring water on our slop. What does it mean for Americans to be angry, how dare they? And can everyone else? Where is the logic?
        3. SSR
          +3
          April 26 2013 17: 56
          Quote: tttttt
          Time does not wait, in 2012 Putin was given the last credit of public confidence for decisive action,

          + I personally voted precisely with such thoughts ... that if there isn’t what people expect .. then in general Basta! the limit has been reached.
        4. 0
          April 26 2013 23: 21
          Is it all right for you? Or is everything in chocolate already in Ukraine? You know, we’ll figure it out without advisers. You cook scaffolds there and sharpen axes. You don’t see such a country's leader as your ears. So envy silently!
      4. +3
        April 26 2013 10: 17
        What kind of choice is this, either humpbacked or lame, I think that everyone here agrees that society is "painful", but that's why he is a leader to hear all the aspirations of his people, and when the policy of the ruling elite goes against the opinion of the majority, then social upheavals occur ... But the modern political system leaves few chances for a forceful change of power, the elections are the key, they say they themselves have chosen to blame. And these are happy to move to another chair every five years (as in the fairy tale about Alice, at a tea party with a hatter)
      5. fartfraer
        +11
        April 26 2013 12: 24
        Averias, you are just like GDP, no specifics. Nobody blames Putin for the problems of kittens and cats. But the work that he does causes a persistent negative, because its positive results are not visible. Who do you want to blame for "ineffective investment" Rosnano? me? well, I will answer you obscenely and vse.a Serdyukov who appointed to the post of minister? I? and promised with three boxes and I did nothing? or you? if you are undoubtedly Putin is your candidate.
        or maybe it was me or anyone except the gdp was in power when they squandered the territories (I'm not even talking about resources!) of the Russian Federation?
        you don’t have to be ironic about kittens and a cat. Life and the existence of the state and its citizens are at stake, and you are engaged in demagogy, etc.
        "Putin is to blame for the fact that the wires from the power transmission lines are cut off, the sewer hatches are stolen, the screws and nuts are scammed from factories (although they are not needed, they scam)." - show where he was accused of this? Are they judged by the capture? Or, for a locksmith thief, the director of the plant is tearing up his ass for a thief, "I won't put it on trial"? Isn't it as a result of the reforms that the Ministry of Internal Affairs has been cut? do not make it on time due to the downsizing of their staff and lack of people and technology? are you to blame? who?
        your comment from me with a clear conscience "-", I apologize for the expression, but this particular comment of yours resembles a ready-to-use language (understandable for what?) nothing personal. I did not want to offend you, but I could not find other words to evaluate your comment.
        1. -5
          April 26 2013 16: 09
          Yeah, nobody blames him, but for some reason he is to blame. It is easy to judge when you look "from bottom to top". You think of such a thing for yourself, horror, they say, yes I am, yes THEM, yes I would, I would have done a lot of things. Well, he will plant, disperse - and then what? And at the expense of wires, nuts and bolts and other things. This is a metaphor, or we didn’t tyr in the USSR? Huh? Tyrili, even like tyrili, to the dacha, to a neighbor for a bubble, whoever is the biggest bump, he and more tyril - ORSA bases, shops (blat), buy a car (blat), and much more. It came in our brains, in our blood, through the era. The good ones have forgotten, but the bad ones ....... But you shouldn't apologize, I feel flat about what you call me and think about me. Your right.
          1. Rrv
            Rrv
            +4
            April 26 2013 18: 46
            Quote: Averias
            Yeah, no one is blaming him, but for some reason he is to blame.

            See part 2 of Article 80 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, then look in the dictionary for the meaning of the word "guarantor" - thereby you will find out what and why he is to blame.
          2. fartfraer
            +1
            April 26 2013 20: 10
            "And you shouldn't apologize, I feel flat as you call me and think of me. Your right." - Thank you for your understanding.
            can steal from your blood, and my grandfather (among other things, gypsies) at the age of 19 had the highest rank of a locksmith. Draw your own conclusions.
            with regards to the conviction of the gdp, you should not admire him if he appoints people who openly harm and sabotage.
            you described a lot of negative things from the history of the USSR, to recall how it ended? Do you want to live in independent Moscow (St. Petersburg, Makhachkala is not important)? Well then, you are on the right track.
            1. 0
              April 26 2013 21: 07
              You are either pretending or really dull. I didn’t find fault with the USSR (sorry, your fantasies), you don’t need to pull out of the context that is convenient for you. And you don't need to set your father as an example. Answer a simple question, if no one stole or took bribes - where did all these (ghouls) come from? I'm not talking about young grabbers now, but about the old generation. And they pulled the "nuts" and dragged meat from the canteens. I myself grew up in the USSR, and I liked living in the USSR, but there is no need to idealize. Unlike you, I am not accusing anyone, I am just giving an example. And in this situation, no matter what President we choose, he will not change anything overnight. They won't. It is only on the forums to just talk about how to "lower" the iron curtain, close the borders, nationalize Everything, put all thieves in prison. And how it will look in practice, and most importantly - what will happen to the country. For example, will you win the post of the President? I strongly doubt it. Who among us even knows about what is really happening within the walls of the Kremlin. And we are all masters of talking.
              1. fartfraer
                +4
                April 26 2013 21: 31
                well, about the slow-witted, you are right to the point of your words "Tyrili, even as tyrili, to the dacha, to a neighbor for a bubble, who is the biggest bump, he and more tyril - ORSA bases, shops (blat), buy a car (blat), and a lot of things yet. ". my definition of this phenomenon is "you described a lot of negative things from the history of the USSR." Now the question is, where did I say that you "hayal the USSR"?
                now further- "And the" nuts "were pulled, and the meat was dragged from the canteens" I agree. and for this they were punished (depending on the amount of theft up to execution). were born in the USSR? remember the "cotton business" in Uzbekistan? punished (not under the home I’ll note the arrest) very high bosses, although there was already a period of disintegration, they didn’t have time to punish everyone in full.
                even further- "It's just on the forums just to talk about how to" lower "the iron curtain, close the borders, nationalize Everything, put all thieves in prison." Chavez nationalized. It turns out it is possible, there would be a desire, or how?
                Let's continue, "Who among us even knows about what is really happening within the walls of the Kremlin." But why should you know, just look at what is happening in my city and in those cities where I have been (with industry, etc.).
                Well, for something sweet, "You are either pretending, or really slow-witted." If you are not able to read your comment, then my comment to your comment, and then analyze what I read, then beyond any self-conscious I am slow.
                1. 0
                  April 27 2013 09: 21
                  Well, there is an answer to that. They asked for it themselves. This is me, the quote "... do something like this under Stalin." A trivial example, not without the well-known Mr. Hammer (remember this, if not, then google to help). So this Mr. exported from our country values, objects of art to the West, starting from the time of Lenin, ending with Brezhnev. Look at how he was greeted in the Kremlin, how the party apparatus spun around him, trying to make acquaintances, for what? What would you just shake the handle? I repeat once again, I loved and love the time in which I was born and raised, the time of the USSR. But you don't need to tell me that we lived in an ideal state. You cite as an example, the case of the shop workers (Gdlyan), and how much time has passed before this process began. The same Gdlyan said that he had never seen such a number of seized valuables in his life. And this is what they found and confiscated, and how many were not found? (Again, according to Gdlyan, he was offered bribes with trucks full of money). And where did the word BLAT come from in the USSR? Of course, those who had power stole on a large scale, they were afraid, but they stole. Now it's different - everyone who has the opportunity is stealing.
                  Chavez's example of nationalization was not as impressive as Venezuela and the size of Russia. Look at the map. And if you carefully delve into the internal structure of Venezuela, you will find a lot of interesting things. There is enough crime and corruption in the upper echelons. And judging by your comments, it is not I who "denigrate" our country, but you, dear.
      6. +2
        April 26 2013 23: 17
        Quote: Averias
        Devastation in the heads.

        Clever you! I join! I said everything absolutely correctly! I will only add that those who were in power at that time began to derail the country. So not everything was right? So people were hiding behind loud slogans - "Party - mind, honor and conscience of our era ", but in fact they did not think so at all. And at the first opportunity they swooped down like crows and tore pieces, shooting and killing each other ...
      7. +1
        April 27 2013 07: 33
        where did you see everything - choose and not write under the pointer? There are no honest elections and never have been! Chooses a trend created by a group of persons in order to profit this group of persons, by prior agreement. Almost article uk turned out :)
      8. 46bob46
        0
        April 27 2013 09: 49
        I don’t remember that anyone I chose tagged except the Politburo.
    3. +3
      April 26 2013 08: 36
      Quote: Averias
      Yes, if this happens, then in the place of those who are now in power, such scumbags will come - it will not seem enough.

      I also thought about this a lot, I took Chubysya and Ivanov into the Bilderberg Club, on the rights of fluffy trolls, why, glob-lizers are up there, they will pour useful information for one. What the hell does these KGB shniks know about him, but maybe from his point of view it’s not the time to merge them?
    4. +3
      April 26 2013 09: 04
      Quote: Averias
      Someone like that, but in the context I heard a lot of interesting things.

      Share what you heard. Maybe we will understand and the secret will be revealed.
      1. -2
        April 26 2013 09: 29
        Quote: baltika-18
        Share what you heard. Maybe we will understand and the secret will be revealed.

        It was necessary to listen !!!
        1. +2
          April 26 2013 11: 34
          Quote: krokodil25
          It was necessary to listen !!!

          Listen to this one! But thinking at the same time, is completely different! stop
    5. +5
      April 26 2013 15: 12
      Quote: Averias
      PS For the sake of jokes, now I looked at some congress of the CPSU, a speech by Brezhnev. This is where mortal anguish is, the hall is on the verge of falling asleep, the boring faces of members of the Politburo. After 10 minutes of viewing, I completely lost the meaning of what the Secretary General was talking about. As the saying goes - Feel the difference laughing

      Not at all a joke - they would get acquainted first before joking. Here you are, so to speak am , for enlightenment:
      Brezhnev's "stagnation" in figures and facts
      Quote: ros-sea-ru.livejournal.com/1024072.html
      In economics:
      - The growth of the national economy from 1965 to 1982 by 2,5 times.
      - The growth of real consumption by two and a half times.
      - In fact, the electrification of the village has been completed - an important “national project” of those years.
      - A record grain crop (1978).
      - Three times the growth of the electric power industry for 1965-1982.
      1. +6
        April 26 2013 15: 16
        Quote: ros-sea-ru.livejournal.com/1024072.html
        "Stagnation" in the social sphere:
        - The collective farms have established monthly guaranteed wages and social insurance has been introduced for collective farmers (state pensions, sick pays, etc.), the case was completely unprecedented in the countryside, and much earlier than in most “developed” capstries. For example, in the USA this is not before so far).
        - Public consumption funds (social spending) have tripled.
        - The transition to 10-year schooling has been completed.
        - The minimum wage has been set (increased) to 60, and then to 70 rubles per month, and the minimum pension is up to fifty rubles.
        - The country’s gasification, unprecedented even on a global scale, was carried out: growth from three to forty (!) Million gasified apartments and houses - twelve times. Most of the gasified housing in the country is gasified under Brezhnev.
        And finally, such trifles as the fact that Siberian oil has been developed, which feeds the country so far, all the major export oil and gas pipelines have been laid (3), what is called Gazprom is created today, a unified energy system of the country has been created (1970– 1978), world-class automotive industry (VAZ and KAMAZ), nuclear power was created ...
        Not at that time called Stagnation:
        To tell the children that the 60s – 70s in Russia is not only a time for space exploration, but also a time of the sharpest, fastest growth in incomes of the population — and not at all “a decrease in the standard of living of millions,” the telecaster, of course, was forgotten. As well as why “stagnant Brezhnev” in Russia built 60 million meters of housing a year, and for “successful zero” with approximately the same population - on average only 45 (that is, they again fell to a completely pre-Brezhnev level ), or how, under Brezhnev, they managed to increase the production of electricity from 1965 to 1980 from 507 billion kW / h per year to 1294 - that is, two and a half times, and for the entire period of Brezhnev’s reign — by three. Let me remind you that for our “market democratic twentieth anniversary” (1990–2010), electricity production in Russia not only did not triple as with the stagnant and ineffective Brezhnev, but on the contrary fell significantly: from 1082 in 1990 to 970 in 2009 (falling by eleven%).
        Think about the tragicomism of what is happening: the pygmies, who managed to lower the country's energy sector by 11% down over the twenty years of reforms, boldly accuse the titans of “stagnation and degradation” that tripled it during exactly the same twenty years. Tripled! Not at the time called stagnation, not that ...
        We had our own economic miracle, abruptly the current Chinese one - and no one said a word to the students about it. It has nothing to do with oil prices (contrary to popular legend) - for most of Brezhnev’s term, oil prices were very low, up to two dollars per barrel (this is not a typo). We also forgot to tell schoolchildren that it was under Leonid Brezhnev that the country grew to a record level in history - from Rurik to the present day - its level, its share in global production - at least 15% (US estimate, and according to Soviet data - above 20%) from global production, which is more than, say, the current share of “great growing China” in the current global economy.
        There is only one question left: how did he, so brainless, do this?! ..
        http://ros-sea-ru.livejournal.com/1024072.html
        As they say - feel the difference laughing
        1. -1
          April 26 2013 23: 46
          Dear, the official statistics are very different from the realities. I graduated from a medical school in 77. What salary did I have? 65 rubles. Doctors did not reach 100 after doctors. Study and practice for doctors were not protected in the working experience. All worked for 1,5 , 2-13 rates. They didn’t give housing. There were no bonuses and XNUMXs. In stores ... what can I say ... who lived at that time and not in the capitals remembers. Why lie to yourself? And by the way, they started killing medicine then. Now it’s out of place to write a lot on this topic, but take an interest.
          1. 0
            April 27 2013 09: 24
            Quote: Tverichanka
            In 77, I graduated from a medical school. What was my salary? 65 rubles. Doctors after the institute did not reach 100.

            At 77m, I was still unconscious (2 years), so I will allow myself to cite the eyewitness accounts:
            Quote: okokourov
            The salary. If we consider that in those days there was no inflation, then the salary grew constantly, and welfare was really felt. One can cite the following figures: in 1940, the average monthly salary of workers was 40,6 rubles, in 1965 - 129,2, in 1975 - 198 rubles. The country was a dictatorship of the proletariat, so the hegemon had a higher salary than any specialist with a higher education. I will give an example of V.S. Tsagaraeva. He worked as the foreman of the Komsomol-youth brigade in the mine. Earned 700-800 rubles, sometimes up to a thousand. The first secretary of the city party committee Yu.I. Butakov received a salary of 550 rubles. At the same time, both had one northern coefficient and all northern premiums. The director at the Angarsk Electromechanical Plant also received less than his cool worker-machine operator. For example, I, working as the executive secretary of the Kazachinsko-Lensky district newspaper in 1973, had a salary of 90 rubles. When there was another salary increase for newspaper staff, our team was happy for a week, and my salary was 110 rubles. In Bodaibo, the newspaper’s editor was paid a salary of 220 rubles, plus a 30% northern coefficient, plus 10% annually up to 50%, plus a fee of 30-40 rubles. Then, when the “first great development of the Sukhoi Log” happened, the northern coefficient in the region became 70%, and the premiums remained the same.

            Pensions also grew and were very worthy. For example, my parents, when they retired, received it in the maximum amount = 120 rubles. Yes, plus 12 rubles for a long work experience. Total = 132 rubles. I recently read that the real dollar rate is set by the number of hot dogs that can be bought on it in different countries. You can also compare the standard of living then and now at the cost of bread. Then a loaf of bread cost 22 kopecks. Now it costs 19 rubles. Retiring at 132 rubles, one could buy 600 loaves of bread. Today I can buy 3 bread rolls on my pension of 600 rubles. It turns out that my current welfare against the Brezhnev pensioner is 189 times lower.
            Now at prices, first at food. The notorious cooked sausage cost 2 rubles 20 kopecks per kg. A good smoked sausage cost 3-50 - 3-70. Meat 2 rubles per kg. Butter = 3-50. Vodka then cost first 2-52, then 2-87, then 3-12. Good brandy = 4-20. "Napoleon" (real!) Cost 12 rubles. For example, when we were going to a young company, we bought a bottle of Bulgarian wine “Tamyanka”, for example, and made sandwiches with carbonate (also real!). Tasty! Or went to a restaurant. Having dropped by 10 re, one could spend the evening very decently.

            http://blog.kp.ru/users/okokourov/post32119001
            Father told me that Brezhnev himself had a salary of about 500 rubles (then he checked, and really 500), who sought material wealth and a career, started with the BAM and other Komsomol construction sites, as well as with practice in rural areas and remote areas like the North.
            Well, about Your salary - torment doubts that you called a bare salary, because sister on the 4th year only a scholarship received 50 p., + part-time job as a nanny. hi
            1. +1
              April 27 2013 09: 48
              For the shops.
              I didn’t grow up in the capital, but we always had 4 varieties of sausages (yes, you guessed it): Livernaya and Doktorskaya, Lyubitelskaya and Krakovskaya - they brought dry and smoked less often, but they didn’t compare with soybeans from soybeans (for the sake of justice I’ll say that this statement does not apply to the majority of Belarusians good)
              Technique ... Yes, it was represented by 2-4 brands, but it refused much less than the current one - my mother only threw out the iron about 5-6 years ago, it only changed the cord on it, because periodically burned it wink, and a coffee grinder presented for the 10th wedding anniversary (1981 !!!) is still used good
              For housing.
              The father received a choice of choice in the city, or in the village by profession, an agronomist, he chose the village, because without practice then nowhere - at once I received a dormitory from a collective farm, and when after 3 years I went on promotion to the city, after the wedding I received 2 pieces, and when I was born (75) - after 3 years, and You say housing does not give, well, why frankly drive the misinformation? stop .
        2. 46bob46
          +2
          April 27 2013 09: 58
          Who lived in the USSR, he worked for a long time)
      2. -5
        April 26 2013 16: 40
        And this has something to do with it (I'm talking about the numbers), I said that during such shows (the President's speech, the General Secretary's speech) nothing good is said. Questions are carefully filtered and selected. Everything is directed, that's what I mean. And not about how it was then and how it is now. And about "joking" is too much. And in my thoughts was not.
        1. +4
          April 26 2013 18: 06
          Quote: Averias
          And this has nothing to do with it (I'm talking about numbers), I said that during such shows (President’s speech, Secretary General’s speech) they don’t say anything good

          I’m just about the figures in Brezhnev’s speech were confirmed by facts- what cannot be said about the 5-hour speech of the incumbent president, where no specifics were given, here you are very significant difference, and you - "don't say anything worthwhile" hi
          1. fartfraer
            +2
            April 26 2013 20: 36
            yes, your interlocutor is not interested in the numbers, "they have nothing to do with them", the main thing is that on TV the president jokes, jokes, "soaked in sarties." Well, what is really important?
            whoever is not yet susceptible to zomboyaschik, he himself finds the numbers and what is happening, and does not believe the television "showmen" unproven
            1. +1
              April 27 2013 16: 12
              : Ghen75: fartfraer - I will answer both of you together. I’ll give my own example, from my life, and not from figures across the country and not from the category, but then it was like that.
              Starting from the first term of Putin’s reign, I began to earn money with dignity (I’m clarifying that I’m working for myself, and not because I don’t want to work for the state, and not because I don’t have an education. I just have psoriasis, and there are problems with the employer, when they see my hands). Not about that now.
              First, he repaired computers, gave lessons on the PC, pulled the LAN network, moonlighted the system. admin. Gradually, when the money appeared, I opened a business with my mother, sewing piece goods from fur and leather. We recruited a team (and these are jobs), purchased equipment. I can’t say that the money was piled high (the current client is picky, give them “Brand”). But it goes on, along the way I continue to "fix the PC and everything connected with it. During this time, I bought a Townhouse (made repairs, and this is also money), a normal car. Yes, I plow like a horse, but how else?" with my own hands (economy). And I can safely say, I live a normal life. At the same time, I did not rob or deceive anyone. I often repair computers for free if I see that the client is short of money or take a nominal fee (by taxi). TV (zombie box) ) I'm just looking to laugh at Prokopenko.

              PS And my friends live normally, and not all are engaged in business, many work - and everything is fine with them. Everyone is busy with business, and it brings results. It seems that the people are becoming impoverished and impoverished, but where does so many new cars in the yards come from (ours and foreign cars, middle class)? Where do so many people want to get a mortgage from? And at the expense of theft, hehe, here's a trivial example. Parental capital, how many people rushed to "cash out" it, although at every corner they say that it is illegal. Is it the President's fault. Or, having received this very "capital", they immediately yell - not enough. But no matter how much you give, everything will not be enough. She's a freebie, she's a GOGO thing. Wherever you spit, everyone yells "THERE" (West, Europe), they say, everything is good and civilized, yeah, no matter how it is. I have been there many times, and not through a travel company, but on my own. And I saw this "heavenly" life without embellishment. It is, of course, paraphrasing the saying - We see a speck in our own eye, but we don’t notice a log in a stranger. There are neighbors, they hired a janitor (Russian, not a drinker) to work for 20 tr., A month. First of all, he demanded an advance payment, and a week later he whined, saying there was a lot of work and a small salary. Although the migrants came darkness. Having learned about 20 tr., Salaries. Who is to blame for this? Sweep 3 streets along private houses (8 houses along the street) is that difficult and not feasible?
              1. fartfraer
                0
                April 27 2013 16: 42
                janitor for 20 tyrov?)) powerfully. this is where such bonuses, can you tell?
                1. 0
                  April 27 2013 16: 50
                  In Tyumen, and what, do you want to work laughing Specially (counted, estimated) put such a salary. So that he would normally do the work, so as not to look for him in the afternoon with fire (binges). And it’s how it turned out. Four were replaced, the latter works for 15 (summer) and on mother covers those idiots who refused. I want to clarify, Town House, at the time of the start of construction, does not cost much more than an apartment in the city. Plus 2 acres of land (cucumbers, potatoes, tomatoes, if not lazy). Therefore, reasoning like: some rich buy - not a ride. In my street, and in the village, almost all the northerners. Even in the USSR, the north was mastered, who are younger, still work there, and their parents were brought here by assaults.
                  And to make Everyone completely rich and wealthy is a utopia.
                  1. fartfraer
                    0
                    April 27 2013 17: 07
                    Dear, I was in Tyumen) I saw vacancies, etc.) I honestly didn’t meet a janitor with twenty.
                    now about your business, I have no doubt that you conduct it honestly, etc., only a little oddity arises - my mother is chief accountant (by the way, she often happens in Tyumen, the Tyumen office), and that's what is surprising, when she says that you pay everything taxes and showing a white salary means working in a minus, I believe her, and when you tell me that you are all in work and have not stolen anything, you have not deceived anyone, and you are doing your business quite successfully (if there is enough for life, then things are going), then there are doubts) well, here you can dispel everything, since you are in the know that and how. Regarding "I plow like a horse" - I personally do not strain, I have a house and a car for me unnecessarily for now. but personally humiliates me (completely to zero) dependence of the region's wealth on the availability of oil or other raw materials. I will explain, in Tomsk, almost the only people who earn normally and pay the corresponding tax are oil workers. and your Tyumen is oil, if you did not have oil fields, it is not a fact that someone would need yours fur. about the creation of jobs by you, happy for you (no irony).
                    By the way, can you write how many taxes (as a percentage of profit) you pay? I will then ask the specialists how much you, as the owner of the production, bear the tax burden) and can explain why the connection, electricity and rent for a private person are almost twice as high than for a simple citizen?
                    1. fartfraer
                      +1
                      April 27 2013 17: 18
                      "I personally do not strain, I have a house and I do not need a car" - for you I will explain that I work, but only "not like a horse" and I have enough to live, but I perfectly understand that we live "not by bread alone", I look at tendencies of the state and I see that apart from the growth of the tax burden (this is a fact, you can not argue, I see calculations) nothing good for business is being done. (although no, it is done but not by everyone and not always)
                      By the way, for example, they could cite a program to combat unemployment when newcomers were given money for business. Do you want to announce the amount? By the way, after paying all taxes, no more than 15% remains from that amount, by the way.
                      1. 0
                        April 27 2013 18: 32
                        To be honest, I refuse to understand - what do you want from me? Now give you my taxes, this and that. Am I in the tax office? By the way, since I am a manufacturer, the district invites to exhibitions, pays for the delivery of products, accommodation. I want to note that I did not ask them about this. Themselves suggested, so there can be no talk of a pull. Again, I don’t understand, at first you spoke on a national scale, now you’ve moved on to specifics. The conclusion suggests itself - you are trying to prove something to me. No need, I already see everything, not blind. And I doubt that it will get better with the wave of a magic wand. The whole world is going to hell. And we are no exception. What do you suggest? Acre of numbers, nostalgia for the USSR and statements that then everything was different. Damn it, everything was different yesterday. Because it was yesterday and it cannot be returned back. Why drool over the past, you can't bring it back. All these statements that if only Stalin could be returned, everything would be fine. Yeah, again someone has to come and do everything for us. So it goes. And again, for what time in history, we will argue (for example, metaphorically): He lowered taxes - well done, he didn't raise his salary - hey, his guys. And we ourselves will win if they return the era of Stalin at the moment. It will suddenly turn out that everyone has something that they can take (nationalize). And again there will be screams, the arrows will begin to translate, they say, he has two cars, and "dispossessed" him. And mine, this is mine, "acquired by overwork." And the most interesting thing is that the bulk of those who stole in wagons will get out. Money for party needs will be given, "enemies" will be branded (they will simply surrender so that they themselves would not be touched. Stop indulging in utopian ideas. As long as the world is ruled by money, this process is extremely difficult to change. It will not be banal. Have you been to the USA? To say that I was shocked is to say nothing. They have an ass, and full and without turning. England, in about the same way lives. The British privates fight on the sly, and who is smarter out of the country. I'm not an example, this is me for general development. It would seem that China was there 10 years ago and not long ago, there are changes on the face. And in my opinion, not for the better. But they still hold on. My guide (Chinese) read the local press, half of the newspaper is devoted to the news of corrupt officials and bribe-takers, and this is under their laws.

                        PS I almost forgot, but what have the vacancies to do with it? I clearly wrote that it is the initiative of the residents to put such a salary. Are you trying to convict me of a lie?
                      2. fartfraer
                        +1
                        April 27 2013 19: 28
                        No, I’m not trying to improve you, and you really aren’t in tax. However, if you do not pay all taxes, then you have gone into the shadow business. It means that you don’t show income completely, you are deceiving the state and all) nothing personal.
                        Well, I know the director of a construction office whose secretary receives 50 tyrov, but this is not an indicator, because in our city they’re 15 for happiness. I went over to the specifics after you gave me an example of myself — so successful and working. However, what percentage of your income goes to taxes are you afraid to say, because then you won’t be able to say that we have the country has created a system conducive to business development, etc.
                        Yes, you were given the opportunity (and I do not argue) to realize your commercial talents, but most likely you were not allowed to conduct a 100% legal and open business.
                        If you are interested in which program I would support, I will easily answer-nationalization of resources, do not invest money in other economies, but invest in the development of our own production.
                        business is not to be stifled by taxes, but rather to reduce them, but to collect them completely from all. All offshore companies "overboard", the withdrawal of money from the country should be subject to an additional tax and not higher than a certain amount.
                        but the most important thing is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the prosecutor’s office and the judiciary. I would like to apply something like De Gaulle’s reforms.
                        I will not cover the whole program here, but I told you the main points. You can assume that there is not enough money for this in the country, but I think that there will not be enough money for Rusnano and for the Olympics that have risen in price.
                        Well, about the w-that of your janitor I can’t say that you didn’t cite the growth of w-deputies as an example of the well-being of the people?
                        I’m not a comrade, I’m a mason and I like this work. But I left it because deputies with impunity (local, almost a third own a system. Business) do not like to pay. The prosecutor’s office doesn’t care, the courts go on for a year, etc.
                        I do not need to cite states, etc. as an example. Their system is based on consumption with all that it implies. To live humanly is not a car-business-house-a bunch of loans- "hide and seek from the tax."
                      3. 0
                        April 27 2013 20: 36
                        I see no point in talking about taxes. My accountant does this. And judging by the fact that everything is fine in the tax office, then everything is fine. And the checks were and the documents were studied. States, I did not give you an example (I specifically specified). I just gave the big picture. But this talk about "the image of morality" - isn't it funny to you yourself? And the consumption system is not only for them, it is for us and everywhere. We are gradually becoming consumers. Therefore, we are replacing US (whites, Europeans, or whatever you like) with "Colored" (you understand where you come from (no matter how cynical it may sound). Offshore overboard - well, they laugh, but who will allow that? The salary of a janitor and the salary of a deputy - and this is what? Just do not tell the tales of how we lived and how much the members of the Politburo received, it is not necessary. And all that is needed was provided by the people. And why did we melt gold into Swiss banks (the gold accounts of the CPSU)? I was in my childhood, in Petsunda, at one entertaining summer cottage, where I first saw coca-cola in cans, imported chewing gum, artillery of bottles with beautiful labels, equipment, and other delights of life abroad. And I will not say anything about the decor of the "dacha". Even though I was young, I was shocked by the luxury. Although you cannot say anything outside. knew how it is. about? Where is this from? And I also saw (already growing up) how soldiers build general's houses. Like sailors (sailing abroad) at customs, individual bags were handed over to customs officers. So that the contraband could be smuggled in. As "golden youth", the children of party workers rest and have fun. And they are now sitting on the sidelines of the authorities. I saw a lot of things. I repeat, one system gives rise to another, we have this happened at an accelerated pace and not without Western help. I know many examples of how the system broke someone, but I have not heard examples of someone breaking the system.
                      4. fartfraer
                        0
                        April 28 2013 12: 24
                        you cited the janitor's salary as an example) so you don’t need to accuse me of something. I’m just telling you that this is just an exception, not a rule. I don’t argue with you about the life of the top leadership of the USSR, but this minus was "fixed" along the way, destroying all the positive. and now you are not comparing the cost of the prime minister's camera with the z-that hard worker. Are you shy?
                        Well, about the tax, you pay an accountant who "minimizes" your income by deceiving the state. a system has been created in which to lie and steal (from the state at least) is quite a norm. For you, as a state stealing from the state, this system is quite normal for itself. That's the main idea of ​​our communication with you.
                        by the way, citing various negative examples from the past of the USSR, for some reason you forget about the fact that nothing has changed now, just you were given a chance to snatch a piece, but this is a thief's chance. Continue in the same spirit, maybe you will find a "cunning raider ", then we'll talk further) ATP for your attention.
                        py.sy. all the same, ask your accountant about taxes, etc., otherwise "suddenly it turns out" that there are a lot of claims against you)) and there, how can you argue about taxes and the state of the economy, if you are not even interested?)
                        well, about the deputies’s wagon, they raised their wages almost twice, they say you can’t live 150 ty — the deputies tell us that you can’t live 150, and we have 150 for half a year (in the best case ) among the masses of the people.
    6. -3
      April 26 2013 23: 08
      Exactly so. It is necessary to turn on the brains and understand what is behind this or that statement. It is the context and it is important to hear ... I just want to ask the men here, for example, you always say to your wife, or at least you say what you really think for them? Or are you trying for the sake of peace in the family, not to be frank and somehow disguise the negative? ... I think the second. I also sometimes can not tell my husband what is being asked from the language, but I select expressions so as not to aggravate. ..
      1. fartfraer
        +2
        April 27 2013 14: 56
        he did not talk with his wife or mother-in-law, but with the people who actually hired him for work. If I do my job badly, they will kick me off and they will not listen to my "fairy tales".
    7. +2
      April 27 2013 03: 06
      Quote: Averias
      Everyone thought that Putin would take kaaak now, would he put everyone in prison? Yes, if this happens, then in place of those who are now in power, such scumbags will come - it will not seem few. The country will again plunge into chaos. And as long as I can remember, all such performances were similar. Although during his speech, I noticed a couple of times that Putin really wanted to answer "after his mother"


      It is appropriate to recall Andropov in this connection and compare some points. Although comparing 1983 and 2012 in terms of the anti-corruption campaign is not entirely correct for many reasons, if Andropov risked taking power in 1976, when Brezhnev retired from running the country after a stroke, then he would have a chance to restore order, prepare a successor and save the USSR. And so there was not enough time or health. no forces. Putin today behaves much more carefully with the stealing elite, giving it the opportunity, if necessary, to escape along with the stolen goods. How many oligarchs currently live in London or Israel? Where is the ex-mayor of Moscow Yuri Luzhkov and his lucky wife, business lady Baturin? Where is Serdyukov now? Not on the bunk. He goes to interrogations, but at large and at any time he can leave the country. In my opinion, it is more dependent on Putin himself whether his era has ended. There is certainly a danger of a coup d'etat. If it would be easier to turn this matter right "under the carpet", it would have been done long ago without too much noise or just to accompaniment Swamp. But the fact of the matter is that the school that Putin went through makes him a tough nut to crack any intrigues and conspiracies. The era of Putin is only the beginning of Russia's acquisition of the role that history has assigned to it.
      1. Kaa
        0
        April 27 2013 05: 01
        Quote: Ascetic
        this would have been done long ago without too much noise or just to the accompaniment of Bolotnaya
        In the days of preparation and performances on Bolotnaya Square, and on Sakharov Avenue, the platform of the social network Facebook was very actively used. In fact, the so-called “Facebook team” called for public speeches of the “non-systemic” and “systemic” opposition. According to ITAR-TASS, more than 60 thousand confirmed their desire to participate in social networks that became the main platform for preparing and advertising the rally. Almost 46 thousand of them are Facebook users. For comparison: there were almost 10 thousand less people who wished to go to the previous rally on December 7 on Bolotnaya Square. And the very important flip side of these “white-tape” speeches of “dissatisfied well-fed” users of the social network Facebook. According to media reports, on the last day of the meetings in December 2011, 17, the US Senate approved the candidacy of Michael McFaul for the post of US ambassador to Moscow. Having played the painted roles in the theater of the absurd as much as possible, which is the US Congress, the senators predictably came to the right ending. Michael McFaul, whose media and skills are detailed in the media, is now needed in Moscow because McFaul “works very well with the opposition and the human rights community in Russia. ”The urgency of McFaul's arrival in Russia conveyed to President Obama and the hawkish wing of foreign policy:“ There is very little time left for Dr. McFaul to arrive in Moscow before the New Year. Given the consequences of the fraudulent elections to the Duma, it is absolutely imperative that Dr. McFaul's voice be heard in Russia as soon as possible. ”As the media write, if M. McFaul arrived in Moscow before the parliamentary elections, then perhaps blood would have spilled: he could push his charges to more provocative speeches. There is no doubt that the future President of Russia is the real target of the beginning of the rally. During a visit to Moscow in March this year, Vice President D. Biden clearly outlined Washington’s position: the third term of Vladimir Putin is bad for Russia, bad for himself and will inevitably lead to events similar to the “Arab spring.” that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin as President of Russia categorically does not suit Washington. The American regime, impudent from success - the Arab states, Libya, Syria, and from the internal economic crisis - which is facilitated by militarization and access to cheaper resources, is now ready for more radical measures than ever in its history. http: //xn--b1adccaencl0bewna2a.xn--p1ai/index.php/articles/42-articles/3338-amer
        ikanskii-lobkomr
  17. +3
    April 26 2013 07: 56
    When evaluating the president’s communication with the people, one should not forget who the organizer of this meeting is the first channel and the Russia channel, and to whom they belong - everyone knows. Well, and how, did they manage to make Putin a fool? I think not.
    1. fartfraer
      +6
      April 26 2013 12: 30
      does not go to the channel that belongs to his enemies and makes him a fool and says "about the global" without answering specific questions on the air))) you are a loyal Putinist undoubtedly) now tell me how the channel can make a fool on the air?
  18. +9
    April 26 2013 07: 57
    Quote: Nikolko
    Even down and a complete nerd litter that they (Serdyukov Smetanova, etc.) have earned a real life in either Vorkuta !!!!!

    While some members of the "harem" are sitting at home, and not in the cell, they will be silent about accomplices and barefoot, hoping that the "hype" will subside, and accomplices and barefoots will have time to create labyrinths for their priests in the hope that "with a screw" in they will not be poked for some time ... But if you put them one by one at once, you will have to come to them with a screw, eliminate them radically, and make the harem a minimum crazy crazy ...

    Who among us wants not to take the place of the one with the screw, but to replace him with a screwdriver in a particular case - to become a screw ???????? There is darkness among the guardsmen among the people ... But are there any volunteers to head the guardsmen?

    Judging by the latest events, there are no such people who want to be surrounded by a "man with a screwdriver" ...

    Then can we wait without the hysteria of the end of the story? And then we uncover the screws?
  19. -1
    April 26 2013 07: 57
    I listened to him yesterday, such a feeling, carried Vladimir Vladimirovich in the wrong direction.
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 08: 05
      What questions are and answers.
      Questions were not taken from the ceiling. Of the 3 millions, those that were interesting to the heads of the TV channels were chosen.
      1. +5
        April 26 2013 08: 13
        Quote: Boris55
        Questions were not taken from the ceiling. Of the 3's, millions were chosen that were interesting to the heads of TV channels

        C'mon, do you seriously think that the questions could have been aired without approval? :)
        1. -2
          April 26 2013 09: 00
          Quote: Egen
          Do you seriously think that the questions could have been aired without agreement?

          I’m talking about that, that they were coordinated with the heads of the TV channels.
          Or do you think they passed the presidential filter?
          1. +7
            April 26 2013 09: 35
            Quote: Boris55
            Or do you think they passed the presidential filter?


            in our city administration, all the speeches even of the heads of departments are coordinated with the higher management - according to internal regulations (documents), and the speech (question-answer game) of the regional tops - the governor, deputies, often even mayors - undergoes adjustment, cleaning, and coordination to the departments of the administration (what if some word of one department goes against the policies of another!), then everything is sent to the press, and if the upper level is involved, then even rehearses with helpers. Not only words of speeches, questions, answers - but even the arrangement of chairs at the table and in the hall, cameras, even pens for signing and glasses of water, who gives paper with what hand, with what gestures they call, signs of transferring cameras from the 1 person to the room and etc. And also who asks the question with which grimace, in which skirt the girl should be, the correspondence of her blouse to the general background ... This is the work of the protocol department. The staging of the show. By the way, it’s not an easy job, because it’s impossible to foresee all this, and for the slightest discrepancy in the conditioning temperature or other displeasure of the 1 person (we can just have a toothache), you can fly out of work :(
            It’s clear that this is all extras, for example, Kudrin can’t be forced to put on a green tie instead of a red one :), but in 1 he himself understands everything, and in 2 there is still a lot of technology ...
            This is about the level of the region. And I don’t say anything about the above and state-owned companies, though I personally didn’t participate ... But didn’t you know or didn’t suspect about it? Well, at least you think about how big a lot of people are engaged in all this - it’s not for nothing that in the oblast administration there is a whole department, and VV P has a whole apparatus :)
            1. -5
              April 26 2013 16: 55
              Russian media (TV) do not belong to Russia: http://klin.hutt.ru/viewtopic.php?id=113
              Putin openly called the leaders of the TV channels the enemies of Russia.
  20. 0
    April 26 2013 08: 01
    I don’t know how anyone - but I like Vovka!
    Adequate and understands what and how!
    With regards to LGBT people, he is right! want to let them pin each other in the BACK!
    And the fact that he specifically did not say anything- Well, what do you want- This is politics!
    What should have been like under the Communists - 30 years - and we will have democracy!
    We have censorship! But the truth is more often said in the USA and Europe!
    was in Europe, there just kaput with the Truth! All are afraid of something and want to do nothing!
    There are definitely a lot of fagots divorced!
    So break does not build!
    And yet - more than half depends on local authorities! Putin is clearly not keeping track of everything. He delegated power to local local officials. Therefore, it is necessary to move the local authorities!
    1. +7
      April 26 2013 08: 09
      Quote: Nitarius
      And yet - more than half depends on local authorities!


      So let them lead them, they have a whole ministry of RR, what else is needed? Can not cope - change !!! As one very unlikable person used to say: "There are no irreplaceable people, there are not replaced in time!" - golden words, Putin is primarily concerned !!!
    2. +5
      April 26 2013 10: 39
      That's right, vote with your heart ... Yesterday they sent you a message gently, nothing politics. Do not replace as they have ...
  21. +7
    April 26 2013 08: 02
    A bit of text:
    "what you need to distinguish between theft and ineffective investment" - and you still need to distinguish investment from R&D, which is then to make the investment effective
    "An offer was made, but he (Kudrin) refused" - they only showed that Kudrin tried to say something several times and asked for a microphone, but he was not given. Maybe there was no offer?
    "There was a letter from Boris Abramovich" - and he hesitated for a long time that the letters were personal and did not want to publish. These are the ones that the head of state may have "personal affairs", B. is not Monica Lewinsky :)

    Quote: Sewer
    There was nothing to answer at all! A question was asked, but the answer was generally almost always taken in a different direction!

    This is what I wanted to say. However, as usual. Not a single specific figure about anything.
    The paramedic from our Kuzbass appeared in the hall about the ZPL paramedic less than that of her nurse. And - what? For example, 100% for me it is clear that the question is custom. 50 / 50 that after this question, either our Tuleyev will be retired and send someone from Moscow - well, we need to get someone weighed, the place is good, Kuzbass is the forge of Russia :), or at least they will remove someone in the region by medicine.
    And why? This paramedic did not agree that the nurse also receives more doctors. In our regional hospital, a concrete example is received by the head of the department 18tr, and her older sister - 45tr. Because: there are no new doctors, but doctors have gone where, spent 8 years on their studies - it’s clear they won’t leave medicine, they will plow for calling. And the nurse studied for six months, or even not at all, they don’t want to go to such an emergency, no - they’ll go somewhere else. This is a state system, a disrupted education, prices are rising faster than zpl, etc., so what does our Tuleev have to do with it ?!
    Already he did more for the Kuzbass than other governors, he is respected and loved, the same head doctor of the regional hospital a year ago took off with a bang for theft, and so substituting him is ugly simple.
    1. ed65b
      +6
      April 26 2013 10: 20
      Tuleyev is one of the best governors in Russia, and maybe the best. there was also Nozhikov in Irkutsk, so in general it is necessary to erect a monument only for the fact that Ges defended himself from the dirty little hands of Tolya "Red".
  22. pinecone
    +2
    April 26 2013 08: 06
    Quote: Boris55
    ... communication of the president with the people


    Well, how can you call such a spectacle "communication with the people."
  23. +6
    April 26 2013 08: 09
    Who is talking about what, but lousy about the bath. So are our liberals. To his surprise, Putin learned that the editor-in-chief of Echo Moskvy was allegedly offered to be his confidant and he refused. But to the questions of the surprised Putin, the lanky liberal evaded direct answers, and asked about his own question. All the same "political ZK" Puski, Putin's "terrible rival" for the presidency in 2018 Anal and freedom for parrots, that is, NGOs.
    1. +9
      April 26 2013 08: 22
      Quote: GOLUBENKO
      All the same "political ZK" Puski, Putin's "terrible competitor" for the presidency in 2018 Anal and freedom for parrots, that is, NGOs.


      and about Anal and about Crazy pussy and about NCO - I agree !!! Only here in Kurgan, motorists pasted themselves large stickers on cars with the inscription: "I ... with it from our roads !!!", they just stood in front of the administration and did nothing, after they began to disperse, the traffic cops, let's all to detain, for hooliganism. Supervised by this bespardel deputy. chief of the Department of Internal Affairs of the region. This is our freedom of speech (letters), our roads in Kurgan are generally pi ... ts! By the way, unspoiled people read this slogan - "I'm losing weight from our roads" laughing
  24. irka_65. irina
    +4
    April 26 2013 08: 10
    And there were no acute questions, and given everything is streamlined, there are few specifics. Blah blah. Talked to? More likely PR.
  25. UFO
    +10
    April 26 2013 08: 15
    My opinion is another "message from the people". About everything and nothing. They will help a large family from the Far East and a grandmother from Siberia, and that's good. If it is possible to help in this way, then let every day "communication with the people" be carried out, I do not mind. request
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 08: 19
      Quote: UFO
      If it is possible to help in this way, then let every day "communication with the people" be carried out, I do not mind

      :))) 1 minute of airtime of the 1 channel costs I do not remember how much but millions of dollars :)))
      1. +8
        April 26 2013 08: 55
        Quote: Egen
        :))) 1 minute of airtime of the 1 channel costs I do not remember how much but millions of dollars :)))

        If it is possible to help in this way, then let every day "communication with the people" be carried out, I do not mind.
        Yeah, like Lenin, to Bgonevich and fresh air lol
      2. +1
        April 26 2013 09: 40
        Quote: Egen
        :))) 1 minute of airtime of the 1 channel costs I do not remember how much but millions of dollars :)))

        Aha! I meant that the money is spent on this, ours, the people, and who put the "minus" means just this money pocketing :))))
  26. -3
    April 26 2013 08: 16
    Who is talking about what, but lousy about the bath. So are our liberals. To his surprise, Putin learned that the editor-in-chief of Echo Moskvy was allegedly offered to be his confidant and he refused. But to the questions of the surprised Putin, the lanky liberal evaded direct answers, and asked about his own question. All the same "political ZK" Puski, Putin's "terrible rival" for the presidency in 2018 Anal and freedom for parrots, that is, NGOs.
  27. +18
    April 26 2013 08: 17
    I will write very frankly, V.V. Putin disappointed me greatly. I didn’t expect any sensation, but I was expecting concrete details. For example, he would take and sign a decree on the resignation of Education Minister Livanov, especially since all factions, including United Russia, were in favor. Alas, they talked about housing and communal services, about the outrages in this area, I also did not hear the specific culprits from the lips of the president, on the subject of Chubais I am generally terrified, and the president did not defend him, but nevertheless he shielded him. It's like in mathematics, the sum does not change from rearrangement of terms. As for the translation of the arrows, the quote is in the competence of the government "I think that some issues need to be submitted to a referendum and see how the people will speak out, and the people will speak out against.
    I believe that in the entire history of the Russian state, this is the most unfortunate government, with the exception of the ministers of the power bloc. All the media write about the record of the duration of the "direct line", but what's the point, the main thing is not the quantity but the quality of communication with the people. In general, previous communication with the people were more meaningful than the current one. One positive point I still see is that at least communicates with the people, which cannot be said about the leaders of post-Soviet countries. They have nothing to say. Against this background, Vladimir Putin looks much more preferable.
    I would write a lot, but for not having time, and limit myself to this comment. As a compensation, watch this video here.
    1. +5
      April 26 2013 12: 23
      Quote: Apollon
      Against this background, Vladimir Putin looks much more preferable.

      What naivete? He has a bunch of speech-writers, all the questions were known and selected in advance, the answers are written and agreed upon, or do you really believe in online?
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 20: 12
        Quote: Nayhas
        What naivete? He has a bunch of speech-writers, all the questions were known and selected in advance, the answers are written and agreed upon, or do you really believe in online?


        Dear Eugene hi I respect your commentary on this or that visitor, but the fact that you have written here is not new for me. Moreover, when you write from now on, be kind enough to write without errors.
        So in order:
        1.Not spipiter but speechwriter.
        2. I like the clerk more. It's time to get rid of the alien words introduced from the outside.
        3. You are capitalized.
    2. +4
      April 26 2013 12: 28
      Quote: Apollon
      I did not expect a sensation, but I was waiting for specifics.

      Well, in vain! What can you expect from him? request
  28. fenix57
    -6
    April 26 2013 08: 22
    Disappointed with the "communication" of the GDP with the people .. But at the same time I am sure that at present there is no political figure in RUSSIA who can compare in authority with the GDP both in RUSSIA and abroad ... hi
    1. +5
      April 26 2013 08: 28
      Quote: fenix57
      Disappointed with the "communication" of the GDP with the people .. But at the same time I am sure that at present there is no political figure in RUSSIA who can compare in authority with the GDP both in RUSSIA and abroad ...

      If you scrape the gophers, maybe there is.
      Russia is not predictable in this regard.
    2. +7
      April 26 2013 11: 17
      ... I am sure that at present there is no political figure in RUSSIA that can be compared in authority with GDP as in RUSSIA ...


      Then Russia is over! But, I do not agree with you. Among public people (pah, how about girls lol ) it is not visible, but even with today's poverty, He is. It all depends on us, as before, the cult of egoism and consumption will obscure the eyes of most of our people; we won’t see it. If we turn and for the most part strive for eternal values, we will quickly make out.
      It is not for nothing that the main electorate of Pu is women, people with a low level of education, residents of small settlements (mainstream media TV), and needy people. http://moment-istini.ru/news/833.html For them, momentary practical interests are much more important than the greatness of the country. Let us live quietly, no matter how worse, we don’t want to sacrifice anything, and they don’t see why! In practice, this group is called "swamp", it is neither bad nor good, it is stagnant. "Swamp" always chooses the stronger side, which at the same time promises them the most and without any effort on their part (pensions, benefits, wage increases, etc.). "Swamp" is the basis of democracy, it is about 50% of the society, as it will vote so it will. At the same time, it is easy to manage, you can read the book "Psychology of Crowds" by Gustave Le Bon.
      The real elite sets the vector by 50%, and the vector is now far from creative, which is why it turns out to be empty talk in order to keep the crowd in control.
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 11: 51
        I agree with you, Orik, for example, take at least the heads of the regions, really out of 86 people there is not a single normal leader ?! the problem is that we have a one-party system, and with such a system, no governor will go to the polls. In my opinion, against the background of other areas I have been to, it is very different for the better Tatarstan (I don’t take Tyumen region into account), on TV, including in the app media, they speak well of Kaluga region (I didn’t, I don’t know ) That is, the authorities simply do not allow such leaders to show themselves at the federal level, fearing competition !!!

        PS This is a purely personal opinion, by the way our Kurgan governor is a complete bullshit, and for 15 years he has been "effectively leading" !!!
        1. fartfraer
          +2
          April 26 2013 12: 35
          "Is there really not a single normal leader out of 86 people?" - out of 85, cross out Tomsk
          1. +1
            April 26 2013 15: 16
            Quote: fartfraer
            is there really not a single normal leader out of 86 people? "- out of 85, cross out Tomsk

            Cross out of 84 Ivanovsky.
            1. +1
              April 26 2013 22: 47
              Quote: baltika-18
              Cross out of 84 Ivanovsky.

              Would write "and cross out the Moscow region" but there is no one to cross out. One signed 15 hectares of forest and agricultural land for the construction of cottage settlements and dumped them on pension. The other rules the defense. The third general I.O. In general, cross out everyone who appeared in the Moscow region. laughing
      2. krest.ros
        +3
        April 26 2013 13: 40
        Putin is the head of the swamp kingdom. I agree...
    3. +5
      April 26 2013 12: 30
      Quote: fenix57
      Disappointed with the "communication" of the GDP with the people .. But at the same time I am sure that at present there is no political figure in RUSSIA who can compare in authority with the GDP both in RUSSIA and abroad ...

      Complete nonsense! negative
  29. +2
    April 26 2013 08: 22
    Yes, something bothered him. He didn’t look like himself.
    1. +6
      April 26 2013 08: 46
      Quote: Den 11
      Yes, something bothered him. He didn’t look like himself.

      The king is not real! (c / f Ivan Vasilievich changes his profession)
  30. +6
    April 26 2013 08: 25
    After the "Direct Line", many channels reported that the growth of questions to the president is increasing every year and explain this by the fact that people are simply interested. But the number of questions is growing due to the fact that the population of our country is more and more dissatisfied with what they see on TV screens and what is happening in life. It should be said about something that millions of people turn to the president for help. cannot get at any other level of power. It looks like a "helpline" across the country, people called, wrote, shared their problems, "let off steam" and will wait a year for help in their troubles.
  31. krest.ros
    +7
    April 26 2013 08: 27
    it is necessary to distinguish theft from inefficient investment. Today, according to the president, Rusnano’s losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles, and the president does not see a crime here.

    Did he really say that? Everything, the Lord completely deprived his mind. This conference began Putin's soon end.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 09: 03
      Quote: krest.ros
      This conference is starting soon end Putin.

      Don’t lose yours, but don’t worry about him :)
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 12: 24
        Do you hold it in good hands? Or where else?
      2. krest.ros
        -1
        April 26 2013 13: 45
        Yeah sad ...
  32. Best novel
    +7
    April 26 2013 08: 29
    He achieved his earlier - he promoted the law on increasing the term of office, won the elections. The main point of yesterday (as I see it) is "Choose what you have. And by the next elections it will be forgotten a hundred times, and I will give you new noodles by that time. I'll cut it. "
  33. +6
    April 26 2013 08: 32
    And as for Serdyuk, this is generally a kapets! Baranets himself was in shock! And Prokhanov, always upholding and defending him - ??? With this conversation, it seems to me, not so simple!
    1. +5
      April 26 2013 08: 59
      Quote: Den 11
      ! Baranets himself was in shock!


      He also noticed, in the middle of the "conversation" the camera snatched Barantz, he wanted to say something, but alas, they did not give him ...
  34. Best novel
    +3
    April 26 2013 08: 33
    He achieved his earlier - he promoted the law on increasing the term of office, won the elections. The main point of yesterday (as I see it) is "Choose what you have. And by the next elections it will be forgotten a hundred times, and I will give you new noodles by that time. I'll cut it. "
  35. +9
    April 26 2013 08: 39
    He didn’t really answer anything ...... a good question was asked on Chubais, he again joked and defended him, it was also unclear on the roads ... the hostess even began to resent him, he also told you about the army, I didn’t hear any questions about the army. .by the Air Force, there was only one, as always summer time ... creative people asked questions about the paintings, and so they asked as if the lecture was going on ... as time dragged on. The conclusion of the line is by no means: he laughed at whom it was necessary to protect .... all
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 08: 42
      Nothing ... we'll figure it out
      1. +1
        April 27 2013 00: 11
        [quote = Den 11] Nothing ... let's figure it out
        Fathers ... well, why did you write this? Figures have been sought out. If I’m not mistaken, are you at the workplace right now? That's the whole answer to your remark ... I don’t even work, but I have a word, it’s not at all during the day time to sit on the Internet ... But what branch do not open, 99% of the comments are written during working hours. And questions to Putin, why is this in the country the growth rate of the economy has slowed down? Let's do this and this .... You don’t want to pay yourself attention and for starters in the workplace to do their job duties?
  36. +6
    April 26 2013 08: 41
    Muddy answers to muddy questions. Look longing green.
  37. +19
    April 26 2013 08: 46
    And you know, brothers ...
    From everything looked yesterday, I made a strange opinion - that the GDP spoke as if with a related language.
    It seems that somewhere behind the curtains there was such a kind of censor with a livor in his hands, and he watched - only VladimirVladimirych would not blink - there was a bullet in the back of his head.
    This I exaggerate, of course. But the feeling remains.
    ...
    I fully admit that I'm trying to take my desires as a starting point. However...
    Here is an appeal to the Legislative Assembly in December. The fact that these were slogans - no doubt. BUT! BUT! Even with slogans, I was severely disappointed. In the days of the CPSU, there were more reports and specifics — we will finish BAM, we will launch KATEK, we will give money for space. In December, there was nothing but sweet water.
    ..
    And then I did not expect anything optimistic. Well ... I didn’t wait - therefore, there was no disappointment either.
    Slurred rubbish about the ability to store money, where anyone wants. BECAUSE , the state, it turns out, is not able to ensure the reliability of deposits !!!!!
    I understood it that way.
    It follows that all these menacing shouts "bring the dengue back, you bastards!" - nothing more than mudovy sobs.
    Yes, and everything else. In the same spirit approximately.
    ...
    And anyway, some kind of splinter sits ... well, the muddy speech with sharp looks does not fit in perfectly. Our President.
    ...
    Hand on heart, I confess to myself. And you. Most likely - I'm back in flight.
    Well, fate.
    ...
    The old horse does not spoil the furrow. Because - no longer PAD.
    And for whom I ... next time I will not vote - I know for sure.
    1. +9
      April 26 2013 09: 19
      Quote: Igarr
      It seems that somewhere behind the curtains there was such a kind of censor with a livor in his hands, and he watched - only VladimirVladimirych would not blink - there was a bullet in the back of his head

      Chubais with Colt 45 caliber.
      1. +8
        April 26 2013 10: 20
        And Kudrin sat for the spotter, huh?
      2. +2
        April 26 2013 12: 25
        Quote: baltika-18
        Chubais with Colt 45 caliber.

        Quote: Igarr
        And for whom I ... next time I will not vote - I know for sure.

        Quote: baltika-18
        And Kudrin sat for the spotter, huh?

    2. +2
      April 26 2013 12: 22
      Quote: Igarr
      The old horse does not spoil the furrow. Because - no longer PAD.
      And for whom I ... next time I will not vote - I know for sure.

      Late in the night you realized! As they say, it’s too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have refused! For the remaining 5 years, they will do such a thing that it will not seem enough. Yes, what five years, I think that everything will be decided this year, we will reach the maximum until the next. crying
    3. Volkhov
      -2
      April 26 2013 13: 48
      There is a version about the overthrow of the tandem by the junta Shoigu-Lavrov, but rather the transfer of power is incomplete, you just have to reckon with the new policy and avoid possible nit-picking.
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 21: 48
        Damn, robbed ...
        ".. With my hand on my heart, I confess to myself. And to you.
        .... Well, fate. "
        ...
        Have you been waiting ????? WHAT?
  38. +7
    April 26 2013 08: 46
    Putin called the "pig" the mayor who refused to accept a pensioner ... laughing

    Putin’s sense of humor is always on top, I can imagine how he grunted at home laughing

    Maybe another lesson will be?
    1. +6
      April 26 2013 09: 14
      Today, the news showed this grandmother, she seemed to be in the Duma to the deputies to discuss problems with management companies. With all due respect to this woman, but from her conversation on the "live broadcast" as it does not get the impression that she will be able to advise something. Complain, yes, but with the rest ... So, at the expense of the woman they carried out cheap PR.
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 09: 26
        Quote: Alex45
        Today in the news this grandmother was shown; she was supposedly summoned to the deputies to discuss problems with management companies.

        In short, a new "Buranovskaya grandmother" has appeared. PR in full.
      2. +1
        April 27 2013 00: 24
        You’re wrong about your grandmother. There was an article about her for a long time (I don’t remember exactly, maybe in AiF). They in their house refused the services of the Criminal Code and won all the courts. They started managing their own house. She said that yesterday. And yesterday she was at a meeting with the Prosecutor General and in the Duma. It was about the adoption of the law on the Criminal Code and violations at the local level. So there is no PR. And it’s very good that she was invited to the studio. Maybe someone else will use her example and begin to fight with Uk.Eto as an example, that something also depends on us. Grandma well done in my opinion!
  39. Aboriginal53
    +7
    April 26 2013 08: 48
    The direct line was disappointing. They steal, but there are no guilty ones. How is Serdyukov not guilty? Guilty! His subordinates stole. Who built the property sale scheme. Was he engaged in combat training? But the court will determine the degree of guilt if it comes to court. I'm not talking about Chubais, it's sickening.
    1. +5
      April 26 2013 10: 12
      If Serdyukov is guilty, then VGK is also guilty! Well, these "innovations" in the army could not pass by the Supreme Commander: the transition to a brigade structure, the collapse of military education, military medicine, the collapse of the GRU, etc. Although, in fact, no one is bringing charges against Serdyukov in these matters ... So far, only Oboronservice is heard.
  40. +5
    April 26 2013 08: 58
    And I never watched this show, I went to sleep (the difference with Moscow is 8 hours). I have a record of one of his first "conversations with the people", so half of the questions in different variations are the same as yesterday. And the answers are the same about nothing. Who has his first shows - take a look. I would put it here, but this recording on a VCR needs to be digitized.
  41. +1
    April 26 2013 09: 00
    4 hours 47 minutes to fit into this "express review" laughing
  42. -2
    April 26 2013 09: 03
    That's it, tryndet isn’t talking about anything from this branch anymore!
  43. -1
    April 26 2013 09: 06
    I just realized, but that's not it? Putin in power - just a year! True, what are we! Man only delved into matters. recourse
    1. +2
      April 26 2013 11: 06
      Quote: Chen
      I just realized, but that's not it? Putin in power - just a year! True, what are we! Man only delved into matters.

      Laughing out loud!!! fool fool fool You yourself are not funny, from what you wrote?
      1. Shuriken
        +2
        April 26 2013 14: 02
        IRONIA and SARCASM-heard about this?
    2. 0
      April 26 2013 14: 41
      And the former term is somehow not considered.
  44. +3
    April 26 2013 09: 11
    And I still didn’t like that now in Russia (civil aviation) foreign pilots can work (Tolboev’s question). It turns out they cannot grow their pilots (or pay so much that they would like to work).
    1. stroporez
      +7
      April 26 2013 09: 48
      where did they come from ??????? yesterday helped kids with math, grade 5-7. skills of the score --- zero, multiplication table ---- zero ..........
    2. 0
      April 27 2013 00: 34
      Yes, from whom to raise their pilots? Do you want a lot of people who want to? Do not want to go to pilots, but want to become lawyers, managers, dealers, killers .... They want to make such a decision from a lack of personnel. With civil aviation there was a huge failure at the end of the 90s Those who flew then leave, the number of flights has increased by a factor. There is a shortage of personnel. It takes half a year to get a car license, and a graduate of a flight school never becomes the commander of a liner right away. First he will fly as a second pilot and different types of aircraft. And this is several years. So the measure is a necessary and not forever.
      1. 0
        April 27 2013 00: 46
        Girl, but is it time for you to go to bed with your husband (or a friend, if any). Here the male bazaar is
  45. +12
    April 26 2013 09: 15
    About Serdyukov and his brotherhood, especially about Chubais, no other answer was expected. I dare to agree with Kudrin on the absence of Putin and the government’s plan for the development of the state and the economy as a whole. I agree that everything is done half-heartedly (I would say even less) and manually ... So the state will go nowhere. Which is happening. I agree with Kudrin that wages are growing faster than labor productivity. But Putin just hung noodles about inadmissibility non-increase salaries to the military, doctors and teachers. This is true. But the salary does not grow at all because of the appetites of respected professions, but because of the huge brotherhood of officials whose record number has reached the entire history of Russia. This fraternity does not produce anything and lives on the taxes of citizens of the Russian Federation and constantly has a salary increase. Their salaries are not comparable with the salaries of doctors and teachers. The army of officials from advisers ... deputies devours the overall productivity. The increase in productivity is hindered by the lack of production and the decline in their residues, as well as the availability of cheap labor from Central Asia. For some reason, the president did not say a word about this.
    1. +7
      April 26 2013 09: 31
      Quote: rennim
      I dare to agree with Kudrin on the absence of Putin and the government’s plan for the development of the state and the economy as a whole. I agree that everything is done half-heartedly (I would say even less) and manually ... So the state will go nowhere

      Well, at least someone said a word about the poor hussar.
      Kudrin is certainly hrosh, but his star-striped courses do not justify trust.
      I can only imagine how the dialogue went.
      Putin: Lesha, stop doing this bullshit! Soon the west will swim in its own cesspool, and you will slush your slingshot there and still drag us there.
      Kudrin: Yes, I actually ....
      Putin: Come back to the government, we will soon launch such an IMF BRICS, all the Morgans and Rothschilds will put in their pants, but we have few specialists.
      Kudrin: Yes, somehow, it’s dumb .....
      Putin: Fuck you, n ....., g ......, liberalist x ....., suck e ......, NUT !!! b .....!
    2. +7
      April 26 2013 09: 38
      Quote: rennim
      This fraternity does not produce anything and lives on the taxes of citizens of the Russian Federation and constantly has a salary increase. Their salaries are not comparable with the salaries of doctors and teachers. The army of officials from advisers ... deputies devours the overall productivity. The increase in productivity is hindered by the lack of production and the decline in their residues, as well as the availability of cheap labor from Central Asia. For some reason, the president did not say a word about this.


      In Russia, 37 mil are employed in the real sector. people, other state employees, priests, lawyers, economists, security guards, scientists, senior citizens, children ....

      Here we have such a nano economy !!!!
      1. +1
        April 27 2013 00: 45
        Priests, lawyers, economists, security guards, to the machine. Pensioners and children, sprinkle with dust. Then the remaining 37 million people will be quite wow. They will raise productivity to unprecedented heights ... And do not educate, whose children work as lawyers, economists, security guards? And not Do the parents tear their veins so that the child gets a higher education? Or does one of the parents dream - "Oh, if only my son was a turner !!! That would be happiness !!!". Yes, all friends and not very much will be raised on their feet, if only for a not dusty and with a good salary to attach a son. And even a daughter, even more so !!! It would not be bad for a beauty contest ... Well, or in a model ... Doesn't work? ... then a stripper !! so glamorous, and the money pays good ...
    3. +6
      April 26 2013 11: 47
      Quote: rennim
      and the availability of cheap labor from Central Asia.

      An open letter from the head of the portal Superjob.ru, Alexei Zakharov, to the President of the Russian Federation

      http://www.superjob.ru/info/announcement.html?id=111332
      Dear Mr. President!

      You set the task of creating 25 millions of “good and well-paid" jobs by 2020 year. This is a great challenge, and we, as employers, are both in favor of it.

      But the real human resources policy is that by the year 2020 there will be additional 25 million jobs created for low-skilled migrants. This is in addition to the 10 — 15 millions of jobs that are already created for them.
      As a result of state policy in the coming decades, the number of low-skilled migrants attracted from abroad will be more than half of the economically active population of the country.
      What advantages do we have from attracting tens of millions of low-skilled migrants? I see none. We blur the Russian culture (I emphasize, not Russian, but Russian). Uncontrolled migration creates problems not only in Moscow and other “Russian” megalopolises - in our “Muslim” regions the influx of cheap labor from abroad creates the same difficulties.

      Could someone ten years ago imagine that there would be classes in Moscow schools where children do not speak Russian fluently or do not speak the state language at all? Today it is a reality. If the flow is not stopped, then in a short time there will be schools and areas where it will be difficult to hear the Russian language. Five years ago the word “Moskvabad” did not exist in Russian. And today, this is no longer perceived as a joke.
      PS

      Why did I decide to write this letter? I have been talking about this for several years now: newspapers, radio, television, the Internet ... And if only I’d be alone. I am discussing this topic with high-ranking federal officials with whom you, Mr. President, are also personally acquainted. All hair stand on end on what is happening. But ... I ask my friends: well, you are the power, why are you silent? And in response, I hear: we are not there TAM (meaningfully looking up).

      Hear us, Mr. President!

      Head of Superjob.ru portal
      Alexey Zakharov
  46. -6
    April 26 2013 09: 15
    Quote: Chen
    ... Putin is in power - just a year! True, what are we! Man only delved into matters. recourse

    No, he only got the power and the opportunity to take it, and the year will be on May 7.
    A lot of crap left after Medvedev ...
    Are you annoyed by Putin’s struggle with thieves?
    1. +9
      April 26 2013 09: 40
      Quote: Boris55
      Are you annoyed by Putin’s struggle with thieves?


      laughing So he also turns out to be a masahist, since he fights with himself (spanks, etc.) fellow
  47. UFO
    +6
    April 26 2013 09: 19
    I read the comments, the conclusion is disappointment! In the next elections, the GDP will be blown away along with the Chubais and Dimons. The statement of the GDP shocked - "the government has not been working for a year yet" (in April - a year), the ONLY correct statement - DOES NOT WORK! WHEN WILL IT START WORKING ??? lol
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 11: 26
      Quote: UFO
      Shocked by the statement of the GDP - "the government has not been working for another year"

      wassat This is clowning! laughing
    2. 0
      April 26 2013 11: 43
      Quote: UFO
      The statement of the GDP shocked - "the government has not been working for a year yet" (in April - a year),

      And when did Putin enter his term? And when did he change government? This is a question for you. Or do you so support the general mood on the site, if so then write in essence.
  48. +2
    April 26 2013 09: 20
    With pilots it’s not at all clear. Are there really not enough examples with minibus drivers who speak Russian poorly? When I saw in Magadan a minibus with a Tajik driver driving fucked up. And now the planes as well as the minibuses will begin to beat. We live well.
  49. +11
    April 26 2013 09: 21
    A specific question: why in Venezuela a full tank of gasoline costs how do we have a liter? Chatted topic. I walked in circles, walked around Europe and America, touched on the topic of updating production capacities and so on. And the number of dollar billionaires who made fortunes at the expense of ordinary Russians is increasing. The fields and refineries are still in operation during the Soviet years of construction, that's all their investments and updates.
    1. +6
      April 26 2013 09: 58
      Because Lukoils and others take off buy network of gas stations and refineries abroad. There is expensive Oil. Here is expensive gasoline. Double gesheft.

      Because Lukoils and their ilk promised to upgrade oil refineries from oil revenues, they deceived.

      Because the Government has only been working for a year, and before that, the government, headed by the current president, also worked for a year? ..

      Someone is clearly in proportion ... Disgusting.
      1. folds
        0
        April 26 2013 15: 58
        Because the government has only been working for a year,
        - no, not that, government another year does not work ;)
    2. Luna
      -2
      April 26 2013 20: 45
      If you want gas as in Venezuela, then you should want to live in a shack, sit for hours without electricity, etc.
      1. fartfraer
        +1
        April 26 2013 20: 54
        do not substitute concepts and do not confuse the order of events - gasoline fell sharply after Chavez came to power and nationalization, then the money appeared that they sent including for the construction of housing for hard workers, the fight against unemployment, etc.
        those. you put cheap gasoline on a par with an earlier period of low living standards.
        by the way, a question for you, let gasoline be expensive, ok. just why should the income level differ from European countries? by the way, in these countries (some) unemployment benefits reach 2 thousand euros, this is about 80 tyrs in our opinion. let's do such an allowance, I will go to the "unemployed" and let gasoline cost at least 50 rubles. How are you?
        1. Luna
          +1
          April 26 2013 23: 49
          And the fact that our problem of housing for the military has moved forward and unemployment is not like in Venezuela, etc. Have you already forgotten?
          Venezuela has VERY many problems, it is very, very unlikely that Maduro will cope with them. Not according to Juan sombrero.
          Do you want to experiment with us?
          1. fartfraer
            0
            April 27 2013 15: 02
            I don’t need to better talk about housing problems) I haven’t been able to get bare land for construction for 5 years already (this is despite the fact that I have been in the queue 337, and for 5 years they have given only 52 plots to DB veterans). I know people who have been standing in apartments for years queues, and apartments give 1-2 (and this is in good years), i.e. wait for them before the end of life. what, in the Russian Federation land is over?
        2. +1
          April 27 2013 01: 11
          Is this the country in which such unemployment benefits are paid? Not many workers get there so much. My friend works in Italy for 1200. Of these, medical insurance, taxes, rents are quite tangible. This winter it was cold with them, so it was only 12 degrees at home -Gas is expensive to burn, and it’s freezing ... You know, each hut has its own toys ... They can live financially and fatter, but where are all these joys from? Think, they work well? I beg you ... I learned how to rob. I personally don’t need such well-being at all. But I have one, and I won’t ask anyone, I’m not used to envy. I sleep peacefully. I don’t give a damn about how they live there. I’m not bad here, even I can say that good (albeit a pension of 6400).
          1. fartfraer
            0
            April 27 2013 14: 54
            "In which country are such unemployment benefits?" - for example, in Norway. And gasoline there, according to ours, is about 50 rubles. There is such infa in the tyrnet.
      2. -1
        April 27 2013 01: 02
        Well, yes, what are you? We want gasoline, like in Venezuela, to work like in Greece, and live like in Monaco. And generally, I’m cutting every day and paying as much as you want .... Ah, yes ... also ride like in cairo ..
    3. -1
      April 27 2013 00: 58
      Well, understand, finally, the model of the economy was built in the 90s. It was made by specific people (by the way, very unfriendly to us). Heaps of international agreements and treaties were signed. The smart guys wrote down items in them that DO NOT ALLOW privatization They were safe for the future. Is that understandable? Now, in order to change something a little, we need to look for all sorts of loopholes, dodge and trick. Otherwise, we will be cut off oxygen at all points. The industry was almost destroyed to zero. Where to get technology from? To which markets? to go out with finished products? ... It's not so simple as it seems from the monitor. After all, they did everything on purpose that except for oil (crude) and gas we had no where to get money from. Even oil ones, and not all of them can be used by us .... Well did not our parents moan that devastation and famine after the war? Yes, and it was necessary to sign up for loans. But where to go? Here we are in ruin. Only the situation is more complicated. We were the winners, and now defeated.
  50. diesel
    +10
    April 26 2013 09: 23
    Linking the development of the country with the name of one person is a mistake. We need a concept for the development of the country spelled out by territory and industry. The concept will reflect the development of the political system and democracy. The main thing is personnel policy. The occupation of the president by individual fraudsters is a clear sign of the permissiveness of officials perceiving their posts as feeding. The concept of development should be based on the idea of ​​development accepted by the whole society. Which means the end of the rule of the oligarchy. The sooner society understands this, the calmer this transition will occur. In today's environment, resignations at any level should be commonplace. You can’t wait until the damage is comparable to the budget of the industry or region.
    1. UFO
      +7
      April 26 2013 10: 03
      Those. introduce (return) Gosplan and Party control? Well then, I'm for it. good
      1. 0
        April 26 2013 11: 58
        Ummm ... I AM AGAINST! - EP and so now everything is in control!
        1. diesel
          +3
          April 26 2013 12: 30
          EP today is a way to be closer to the budget. As A. Lukashenko said, near the trough, all pigs grunt the same way.
        2. UFO
          0
          April 26 2013 18: 36
          Well, let them screw up their pro- thieves! Remember this formidable: "Party card on the table!" am
          1. diesel
            0
            April 26 2013 22: 09
            The general tone of comments clearly speaks of a pressing problem. GDP program min. fulfilled, the country has maintained integrity and independence. Obligations to the oligarchy do not allow GDP to accept the ideology and concept of the country's development. This is evident even from the 400th anniversary of the liberation of Moscow from the Poles, launched on the brakes. In fact, the creation of a new country. The insidiousness of this holiday for the oligarchy is that their ideological ancestors were ready to lie under any foreigner and adventurer in order to preserve property and power. Today they also do not know where to attach their rird. It is necessary to conduct propaganda of patriotism, to blame the local bosses in the framework of legal procedures, using the network. Explain the causes of poverty in the richest country, actively participate in local and other elections. Landmark Eurasianism, unification on the principle of territories, not blood. We are bred in national apartments, parties, etc. In 3-5 years the country will be different.
  51. +4
    April 26 2013 09: 23
    Quote: Clever man
    There were no really sharp questions

    Perhaps this time the questions were somehow heavily filtered. They overdid it.
  52. -2
    April 26 2013 09: 33
    http://lenta.ru/articles/2012/02/24/citata/ - может не в тему, я правда не очень lentf.ru уважаю за однобокость, но здесь просто сравнение.
  53. +3
    April 26 2013 09: 50
    I didn't watch the conversation. I don’t trust the government (read the ruling elite). There is, of course, a hidden hope that they cannot now voice the right decisions. But the minds and time of the government say that this is nonsense. And so I surfed the sites and looked - the conversation is about nothing, it seems that Putin agrees with all the pressing issues, he is working on them, but nothing will change radically in the near future. The giraffe is big, he knows better.
  54. +5
    April 26 2013 10: 00
    I looked almost completely: Putin spoke a lot, said nothing.
  55. -3
    April 26 2013 10: 02
    Meanwhile, “Media: Boris Yeltsin’s daughter T. Yumasheva became a citizen of Austria.” Putin is not the kind of person to give up so easily. I am sure that the conversation did not take place without the influence of external forces (this will soon become clear). But believe me, someone will answer
  56. 0
    April 26 2013 10: 11
    Quote: Фкенщь13
    I looked almost completely: Putin spoke a lot, said nothing.

    I didn’t want to warn anyone in advance from those who watch and sharpen the knife...
  57. +6
    April 26 2013 10: 19
    Not a single sensible question, as if they were deliberately choosing, and the answers are vague and slippery, especially about electricity prices for locals and China, they are taking us for fools.
  58. ed65b
    0
    April 26 2013 10: 23
    I completely didn't see the work. But in the evening I looked at the excerpts, it was a bit boring. The announcements are like a blockbuster and the spectacle is like a soap opera. Previously, GDP was cooler.
  59. +3
    April 26 2013 10: 27
    Gentlemen, what do you want from public performances?

    Which president makes or voices decisions during an interview, albeit a prepared one? Wrong format.

    Another thing is important:
    • Recognition of the ineffectiveness of the power vertical (manual management, i.e. the need for personal participation). Imagine: Obama sends the head of the FBI to deal with the mayor in Alaska regarding cleaning up the territory. Nonsense!
    • A certain confrontation with the government (defends it out of necessity, but without enthusiasm “...just a year..., but”, etc.).
    • Lack of personnel reserve (continuity in the leadership of ministries, Kudrin’s invitation and his refusal).
    • On the plus side: the West is made to understand that Russia is not going to “lick” their residents and scream uselessly.

    You read between the lines, and between the lines - tension is growing, not only among the people, but also among the ruling elite, who want to continue stealing, but understand that this cannot continue in the same format (and they don’t know how to do it any other way). Here Red shows an almost scientific direction.

    And with Serdyukov - “the expectation of death is worse than death itself.” Even if he comes out of this massacre alive and rich, he will still be “disabled.”
    1. fartfraer
      -1
      April 26 2013 21: 01
      "• On the plus side: they make it clear to the West that Russia is not going to “lick” their residents and scream is useless.” and “• Lack of personnel reserve (continuity in the leadership of ministries, Kudrin’s invitation and his refusal).” - how’s that? Isn’t it on Kudrin’s initiative that money from the stabilization fund was poured into the economies of the states and then begged for investment in the West for production? If so you I admire this policy, I have a proposal for you. You transfer your salary to my card, I undertake to return it with a markup of 1%, but so that you have something to live on, I’m ready to sponsor you at 7-8-12%. What do you think? If in doubt, contact Kudrin for advice.
      1. -1
        April 27 2013 01: 23
        Nice man! Kudrin is the performer of his role! The script was written in the 90s in the West. We can’t not play this play, otherwise it’s a complete mess. But... but when playing a play, you can deviate a little from the script. there’s a little bit so that it’s almost unnoticeable...And save up your strength. If your house is on fire, you save what you can and it’s not always the most valuable thing, and someone steals what you pulled out of the fire. So what? do? Put the house out? Save what’s left? Or catch up with the thief? What would you personally prefer?
        1. fartfraer
          0
          April 27 2013 14: 49
          I’ll just tell you, everything has already happened in history. There was devastation in the country, and crime was growing like crazy, and economic collapse. And the ways out of all this were and are in our history. And you don’t even have to go far, it all happened at the beginning of the 20th century. and we can argue for a long time, but undoubtedly the NEP revived the economy after the civil war, industrialization made it possible for the USSR to survive WWII, the development of science in those years allowed us to be the first in many areas. Now I simply don’t see anything similar, only trade in raw materials ( Well, let’s just say this is the main thing), I’m glad that the defense industry is still among the leaders in arms sales, which means the defense industry is still alive. But the economy is poor, these are not unfounded statements, I was lucky in this life to meet normal, knowledgeable people who understand this (not white tapeworms, and the patriots are no less than ours)) something is being done, no one is shouting “they’ve screwed up all the polymers,” but little is being done of what’s necessary, that’s what I’m talking about. And the president had the power and authority to change all this, but he’s been in power for 13 years already a year one way or another, and progress is negligible.
  60. Volkhov
    -3
    April 26 2013 10: 28
    How are astronautics and politics connected? The Germans dug up gold on Venus, sold some of it, the exchange rate fell, the trolls changed their rhetoric...
  61. Ser 47RUS
    -6
    April 26 2013 10: 33
    Well done sir!
    We will definitely live stably for another 11 years!
    1. +2
      April 26 2013 11: 23
      Quote: Ser 47RUS
      We will definitely live stably for another 11 years!

      What kind of stability are we talking about? request
      1. +3
        April 26 2013 11: 27
        Everything is fine, we are falling steadily...
        1. +4
          April 26 2013 11: 40
          Quote: Orik
          Everything is fine, we are falling steadily...

          And with specific acceleration!
        2. +3
          April 26 2013 12: 07
          Quote: Orik
          Everything is fine, we are falling steadily...

          What did you expect? There is simply no political elite in Russia that exists in other countries. Can you imagine that in the USA or Europe politicians would work to the detriment of their state? It is necessary to introduce the death penalty for politicians, they promised 25 million jobs by 2020, they reported in 2020 there are no 25 million, I ask for the wall. Then the desire to go to work in government agencies for the sake of profit may disappear.
          1. +1
            April 27 2013 01: 33
            But, as I understand it, in Ukraine everything is in order with the elite? And there is no need to talk about the elites in the West here. What kind of elite is there? Which finished off Yugoslavia? Iraq? Libya? Climbing into Syria... Everywhere, not without self-interest, they drag everything that bad lies everywhere. Who controls oil almost all over the world? If we, Russians, robbed everyone like that, we would live even better than the West. But we would rather share the latter than take it out of someone’s mouth... And I think that this is right. And we will rise, don’t even doubt it!!!!!
  62. +5
    April 26 2013 10: 37
    Today is April 26, 27 years since the Chernobyl disaster. Not a single information channel said thank you to the liquidators, except for vague hints that radioactive radiation is not so scary. But just yesterday the GDP answered a WWII veteran why young people are vandalizing graves. Here is the answer.
    1. +1
      April 27 2013 01: 29
      Quote: tank64rus
      Today is April 26, 27 years since the Chernobyl disaster. Not a single information channel said thank you to the liquidators, except for vague hints that radioactive radiation is not so scary. But just yesterday the GDP answered a WWII veteran why young people are vandalizing graves. Here is the answer.


      The soldiers, like the officers, were never thanked, and you want to celebrate the 27th anniversary, the date is not even round, and the civilians who worked there, to be honest, went there voluntarily for money and benefits.
      Now these are the ones who are screaming the most, those who actually broke in died long ago, we counted such child siege survivors, it turned out to be more than the entire population of Leningrad at that time.
  63. 0
    April 26 2013 10: 46
    Putin keeps his word - this is his image. That morning Serdyukov came running to him in tears to repent. Putin told him the sovereign’s word. And now he cannot go against his principles. And the crowd must be satisfied, but a promise is a promise.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 10: 59
      Quote: orff
      And the crowd must be satisfied, but a promise is a promise.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssEXL1d0BZo&feature=player_detailpage#t=5s
    2. +5
      April 26 2013 11: 02
      Quote: orff
      And the crowd must be satisfied, but a promise is a promise.

  64. +3
    April 26 2013 10: 50
    I still don’t understand what the point of this press conference is. Previously, at least he spoke convincingly and inspired hope, but now he speaks some kind of nonsense. Melancholy and hopelessness...
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 11: 58
      Quote: keks
      Previously, at least he spoke convincingly and inspired hope, but now he speaks some kind of nonsense.

      I'm afraid that he doesn't care anymore, since the performance is ending. crying
  65. +3
    April 26 2013 10: 58
    I’m reading the AIF “Repentance without Repentance” by the main propagandist of the EBN regime of the 1900s, M. Poltoranin. Yeltsin had everything: finances, levers of power, the patience of the people, but there was a confrontation with the Supreme Council. After the shooting of the parliament, the Kremlin crushed the Congress and the counterweight was eliminated in the country authorities. All those who were previously afraid to steal openly (this also applies to members of the “family”) somehow quickly lost shame and conscience. M. Poltoranin admits that the roots of corruption are there, in 1993. And since then in the country nothing has changed fundamentally. The authorities declare their intentions, but somehow they don’t want to take away what they have acquired illegally from themselves, and therefore, we have what we have. Sidor is a goat, and I am a whip, but we are both owners.
  66. +2
    April 26 2013 11: 13
    How long have you been toiling with this Serdyukov? Every raccoon already understands that a thief and a bribe-taker, an ordinary protege who will not last even 1 day without a patron, but NEVER while VVP is in power, things will not go beyond mild criticism, otherwise what does VVP think? Today the fat man will be imprisoned, but someday they might come for me? No, it won’t work, let the fat man disappear into the darkness, but we will always find the switchmen.
  67. +5
    April 26 2013 11: 16
    They are all from the same gang. No one will imprison anyone. We need to change all the power, but who should we put in charge? It’s a shame that people are considered suckers, they promise every time but there is no point. am Everyone needs to be jailed.
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 13: 07
      Quote: nikolas 83
      They are all from the same gang. No one will imprison anyone

      When the verdict is announced, we’ll see. Why now shake the air with slogans? stop
  68. -1
    April 26 2013 11: 19
    But I didn’t like the questions. These are the kind of questions that are a real setup! You know, once at an interview for a job, I first spent an hour talking about everything and nothing with the head of the department, and then for about another two hours I honestly tried to answer in writing the 300 questions that he handed me! At question 120, in my opinion, I completely lost the opportunity to comprehend the meaning of what was being asked and realized that I was a complete idiot. Then, after reading the questions a little more, I tried to answer them and... decided that the one who wrote these questions was a complete idiot! I got completely furious and went to look for that department head! I didn’t find it, to our mutual happiness! That's why we have... bully Putin and I have questions for the organizers of this event!
  69. -7
    April 26 2013 11: 26
    I don’t know about anyone, but it seems to me that during his previous presidential term, Putin was much stronger than now. What prevents him from truly ruling the country entrusted to him?
    1. +3
      April 26 2013 11: 43
      Quote: Renat
      What prevents him from truly ruling the country entrusted to him?

      You have a complete misunderstanding of the current deplorable situation!
      1. +1
        April 26 2013 12: 07
        We understand the current situation. Only exactly as much as is allowed. How much do we know? Guess. Kitchen politics.
        1. +1
          April 26 2013 12: 13
          Quote: Renat
          We understand the current situation. Only exactly as much as is allowed. How much do we know? Guess. Kitchen politics.

          There are too many obvious facts in this kitchen politics!
          1. -1
            April 26 2013 12: 53
            Who is interested in these facts in this unipolar, two-faced world with double standards?
    2. 0
      April 26 2013 11: 56
      Not the previous one, but the first one. Then he acquired obligations to those around him.
  70. USNik
    +1
    April 26 2013 11: 29
    Nag, it seems that if a new charismatic presidential candidate appeared, who would put the entire defense nanofraternity in a compartment with half of the United Russia, then his people would actually make him a king! (maybe this is all planned in a cunning plan?)
  71. +1
    April 26 2013 11: 33
    He lives in his own society, where Kudrin, Medvedev, Chubais, Golikova, Vekselberg, Abramovich and others, among whom there are those hated by the people. Surprisingly, there are also Kolokolnikov, Shoigu, Kiriyenko, Medinsky, maybe for some balance? He believes that we don’t understand anything, that the majority’s opinion on Medvedev, Livanov and the like is nonsense. He believes that the main thing is not justice, but the opportunity to legally cover up Serdyukov. He is a citizen of the Kremlin.
  72. warm
    -2
    April 26 2013 11: 34
    Quote: bask
    1. When the government of DAMA and all the liberals are ousted.

    Cho, again, the good King does not know anything? and, as always, the good Tsar doesn’t matter, is it sent by the mishandled Cossacks? laughing

    Quote: bask
    2. When it is forbidden to take money out and open accounts in offshore. .

    and how, then, to "earn" the Tsar's people !? After all, they will go around the world with outstretched hand!
  73. Nitup
    -1
    April 26 2013 11: 38
    The President of Italy is elected at a joint meeting of the chambers by an absolute majority of votes. His term of office is 7 years. Any person who has reached the age of 50 and enjoys civil rights can become president. The powers of the Head of State are established in the Constitution. He has the right to dissolve chambers, appoint and dismiss senior state officials. He has the right to pardon and commute sentences, is the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, receives diplomatic representatives, and calls elections. The President has significant rights in terms of lawmaking and has the right of suspensive veto over parliamentary laws. The President is responsible for actions committed by him during the performance of his duties, with the exception of cases of treason and attacks on the Constitution.
    The Government of Italy is the Council of Ministers, which exercises the highest executive power in the country. The President appoints the Chairman (usually one of the leaders of the parliamentary majority) and, on the advice of the latter, the remaining members of the Government. The Constitution does not contain a complete list of the powers of the Government, although its competence is very extensive. In fact, the Government governs the state. The powers of the Government in the sphere of managing the state apparatus are especially broad.

    It’s almost the same with us, but for some reason everyone considers Putin a tsar. And our government for the most part works not for Russia, but for the West.
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 21: 09
      Read the Basic Law more carefully. The President nominates the Prime Minister to the Duma. The president can easily dismiss the government, which the EBN regularly used. It is not so difficult for the president to disband the Duma in the event of a confrontation. But impeaching a president is extremely difficult. And what does Italy have to do with it? There is a parliamentary republic there.
      1. fartfraer
        +1
        April 26 2013 21: 20
        don’t overload your brain) here “Putin’s patriots” hardly know how a parliamentary republic differs from a presidential republic, they didn’t even know what you told them, they don’t care that even the Supreme Court consists of appointees of the president, that the prosecutor general is appointed by the president, etc. .d., for them this is not important - the main thing is “GDP is always right, he is not responsible for anything, only everyone spreads rot on him”
  74. +1
    April 26 2013 12: 03
    Orik, you've come to the wrong place. Your audience is swamp - with the Shenderovichs, Svanidzes, Mlechin, Nemtsovs and other figures. These are your like-minded people - they will understand you and receive you with a bang. hi
  75. explorer
    +2
    April 26 2013 12: 05
    Or maybe it was worth not asking questions at all, not looking at all this, etc. winked
  76. +2
    April 26 2013 12: 05
    For many years now I have been observing the same phrases and actions both in government and on pro-government websites. information resources:

    There are a lot of promises - in fact, “well, the promises were a little too high,” bullshit, grab it.
    Only the president can lead, and only if you yourself, from the bottom of the petition, make your way on a SPECIFIC issue, but not of national importance. It’s cool enough to actually help grannies and the poor, the rest is “we need to figure it out” otherwise they’ve gone completely crazy. I always knew that the Power is separate and the people are separate, and the data from the show confirms this 100%.

    The rest of the management is just for show, well, people have only been working for a year.

    What’s most interesting is that the management at the top has only been working for a year and already knows how much - a kind of box with no entrance/exit - rearrangements are needed, the box is shaken up and there is order.

    Against the backdrop of this show, I remembered the iPhone’s performance and how Livanov smiled - I thought, are people really that stupid - and after the words about the government from the president’s lips, I realized - yes, I was smiling too, and even showed the fact.

    A lot of Putin’s lovers constantly love to say - you don’t understand the fucking thing, it’s all a lot of ways, you don’t see the real picture, he thought of EVERYTHING and so on. etc. However, there is another side to the coin - this is not thoughtfulness and multi-path, but banal or reluctance to change anything on a national scale or the inability to change something. Unfortunately, every year the second side of the coin is more and more obvious for many.

    After this show, it's 95%. In my opinion, the people are told in plain text: we see your trifle with communal apartments/outhouses/and other household amenities, but don’t meddle with power, it’s not your level of intelligence/wealth, this is where those in power “concentrate.”

    PS About Spirituality - what the hell is spirituality, history, if the president receives information about the history of the Russian land from foreigners, and then goes to “see” himself...
    1. +7
      April 26 2013 12: 43
      Quote: Lapotnik
      A bunch of Putin lovers constantly like to say - you don’t understand shit


      On our website, love for Putin is measured volts и watts laughing
  77. ed1968
    0
    April 26 2013 12: 05
    Putin is still a wit laughing
  78. +4
    April 26 2013 12: 18
    If you take into account the number of questions from grandmothers about housing and communal services, paramedics about nurses, children about playgrounds, long speeches from cultural figures about ballet and museum treasures, and also do this and that and that there. and we also lack this... with bitterness we will have to admit either the complete absence of power locally, or the complete passivity of the people locally, or the fact that our president is a reaper and a guarantor and an athlete and a ballerina and a mass performer - an entertainer and commander in chief and extreme...
    The main ideologist of the opposition, Venediktov, with his Stalinism, like a cartoon chicken with his tiny tomahawk, hesitated in general. With such questions, this is either an “agent of the Kremlin,” or even for a liberal, this gentleman has completely degraded. His question was the simplest.
    Normal questions, in my opinion, were asked about relations with the West, about pricing and the cost of gasoline in the Far East, about military and civil aviation, about the luxury tax, and perhaps everything!
    Probably we can add one question to this - how do you ask your subordinates, and how do they ask theirs? How are your orders actually carried out?
    And this kind of communication with the people is necessary for the head of government, what do you think?
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 16: 17
      Necessary.
      We must live on the same wavelength with the people, and not in our own illusory world.
  79. Odissey
    +1
    April 26 2013 12: 24
    I didn't like Putin's press conference. There are few specifics, there is enough empty chatter. It was as if it was not the president who was answering, but an artist-showman. I didn’t like the way he excused Chubais and Vasiliev. Especially the first one. As if he was showing me his own, don’t touch it.
    Personally, I would like the GDP to give a clear and precise answer regarding the nationalization of the Central Bank. Maybe I missed this question for him (I didn’t look at everything), but I don’t think so. This is an important topic, but I didn’t hear such a question from him. This seems to be a slightly uncomfortable topic for the authorities.
    PS Did any of the comrades present ask questions to the president and did they receive an answer?
  80. +1
    April 26 2013 12: 34
    It seems that the chief editors of Nezavisimaya Gazeta and Ekho Moskvy, who were frozen back in the 20th century, remain there. In order not to undermine your own health by asking the same questions in the future, I think the most effective option is to tattoo them on your forehead - “Democracy, NGOs, Navalny.”

    It’s a pity they didn’t ask (choose) questions regarding the pardon or amnesty of Kvachkov and Khabarov.

    With Chubais, apparently not everything is so simple. He felt that the stolen billions could backfire on him and decided to announce that they were in the reserve fund - a banking transaction takes a maximum of three days.

    By analogy with the 37th, he said correctly - the go-ahead has been given to law enforcement agencies, let them work not for the basket, but for the judicial perspective.
  81. +5
    April 26 2013 12: 39
    “Doshirak” is the general sponsor of the direct line with V.V. Putin.
  82. +4
    April 26 2013 12: 41
    They put an enemy flag on my face - it’s very offensive. I always defend the interests of the USSR, and now Russia. Look at my biography, my journalism. O B I D N O.
  83. 0
    April 26 2013 12: 52
    Responding to a question about whether Putin would allow Berezovsky to return, the president answered that, in addition to the moral side of the case, it was necessary to conduct a legal analysis, to appeal to the Supreme Court and the prosecutor's office.

    And at the same time, he almost shed a stingy male tear. In any case, with all his appearance he expressed grief over the irreparable loss.
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 13: 13
      You forgot his answers from previous video conferences - as long as he is here, they will be there.
    2. +1
      April 27 2013 01: 45
      So why distort? If Putin wanted, then Berezovsky would have lived happily here a long time ago and you wouldn’t have even heard of any of the letters... Well, really, you’re already talking nonsense! He kicked him out of here, and now “a stingy tear "...Speak, but don't talk.
      1. -1
        April 27 2013 01: 56
        Girl, calm down already and go to sleep!
  84. fenix57
    +3
    April 26 2013 13: 00
    Quote: Orik
    He is.

    Apparently you are talking about Mr. Prokhorov. So this gentleman is not at all with the people...
  85. 0
    April 26 2013 13: 07
    Quote: Averias
    forced us to vote with foam at the mouth for Gorbachev, Yeltsin? They elected Gorbachev, fell for “freedom and democracy, glasnost and other crap”), here you go, eat up. We got drunk on this very “freedom” and I don’t even want to. While the people, blinded by this “freedom”, drank vodka to the “incendiary” speeches of Plyugavy, the slicksters robbed the country .And we applauded, disarmament - YEAH, Hurray comrades (The USA and NATO are now our friends, there are no enemies.) Closing of factories - YESH, Hurray comrades (The West will feed us and fill us with goods, filled us with crap).And when we came to our senses, the train was already left. And again, let’s choose someone else, now it’s for sure, now it’s for sure. They chose EBN, they say, this is a man, he’s a man,



    Did we have a choice?
    This system is such that no matter what kind of person (standing at the helm of the country) is, as they say, to live with wolves, howl like wolves.
    “Those who stand apart (who do not take into account the small and large “weaknesses” of the elite)” are not allowed close to such positions.

    On the subject:

    Use verbiage, Vova, you can’t treat your people like that.
  86. +6
    April 26 2013 13: 27
    I didn’t expect any revelations from this regular formal show: they simply shouldn’t be allowed on the air for politics. But…
    It was presented as a meeting between the president and the people. But if this is a meeting with the people, then why invite enemies of the people to it.
    For example, Kudrin, whose activities as Minister of Finance were clearly aimed at the complete impoverishment of the working people and the transfer of all funds stolen from the people abroad to maintain and develop the economies of our, to put it mildly, geopolitical competitors.
    Or the editor of Echo of Moscow, who, with his deliberately defiant disheveled and unkempt appearance, constantly demonstrates his contempt for the native subhuman goyim.
    It was not surprising that his question was directed against the memory of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin and at dividing the activities of modern government with Stalin’s policies. After all, Stalin in the 30s overthrew the Zionist yoke over the Soviet people, just as Prince Svyatoslav destroyed the Khazar yoke in the 10th century. Hence all the constant attacks on him from the descendants of the Khazar slave traders and the Trotskyist organizers of the Gulag in the USSR.
    In my opinion, if the government announces its meeting with the people, then it should meet with the working people, and not with all kinds of parasites and other enemies.
    P.S. By the way, I re-read what was written and came to the conclusion: in order to correctly assess Stalin’s role in history, one must understand that Stalin is Svyatoslav of the 20th century.
    1. Maximus
      -1
      April 26 2013 14: 44
      I don’t remember something from the story about the camps and executions under Svyatoslav.
      1. +2
        April 26 2013 16: 52
        Stalin did not organize the camps. He was at the front at that time. They were organized starting in 1919 by Trotsky and Lenin. And they also organized revolutionary terror, eliminating merchants, officers, priests, Cossacks and simply wealthy peasants as classes. They were herded onto barges by families from very old people to infants.
        During Trotsky's time in power, 35 times more people were killed than under Stalin. But all progressive media are steadfastly silent about this.
        When Stalin came to power, he, not being a wizard, could not immediately stop this terror. However, he reduced it tenfold and, most importantly, managed to put the organizers of this terror into the meat grinder. This is something that the current descendants of fiery revolutionaries cannot forgive him for.
        By the way, those who were repressed innocently at that time - in their overwhelming majority - were victims of the Trotskyists who seized power locally. Now they are trying to blame their crimes on Stalin.
        1. +2
          April 27 2013 01: 54
          This means that even Stalin was not a magician and could not immediately stop the terror? Can you tell me how many years passed from Stalin’s coming to power to the first REAL landings? And even then he was not omnipotent. Strong, of course, but not omnipotent (one has only to remember that his instructions to bring the troops on the western border into combat readiness were not carried out). So, Putin should not be ascribed omnipotence. As if he only had to raise an eyebrow and ..... Everything is far from like that. And there is no need to be a genius to understand this. I know once Russia exists as a country, it means it will still gain strength and will be GREAT!!!
    2. diesel
      0
      April 27 2013 19: 03
      I join in. There is a war against Russia accompanied by laughter and songs on “state channels”, I listened to the songs of M. Muromov, two higher educations, graduate school, an album of songs about Afghanistan and our pop music successfully devoured it. I think the Stalin-Svyatoslav analogy is appropriate and topical. Until we are fed GMOs and heroin, we need to make serious demands on the authorities, at least through the Internet.
  87. +3
    April 26 2013 13: 33
    ANOTHER SHOW OF PUTIN WITH THE PEOPLE - CROSS CRUCCIAN IN A HOT FRYING PAN......
  88. +10
    April 26 2013 14: 22
    I remember 8-9 years ago, when I was still working at the institute, we were taken as extras to the Kazan Kremlin for the next such meeting, they brought 2-3 people who would supposedly ask questions, and we had to feign enthusiasm, 4-5 hours there there were crowds and there was snow, it was cold, everyone was frozen and they didn’t let me drink, so that they wouldn’t look at the TV with a drunken face... after that, I definitely have a bad attitude towards such events
  89. +8
    April 26 2013 14: 40
    CONVERSATION OF THE PRESIDENT WITH THE PEOPLE

    Preparatory stage.

    The action takes place five hours away from Moscow.

    Characters:

    CONSULTANT

    MASHA, his assistant

    BOY.



    MASHA (entering). The phone just called. They want an old lady with a question about pensions...

    CONSULTANT. The old lady is already rehearsing.

    MASHA. And the soldier with gratitude.

    CONSULTANT. Masha! The soldiers have been standing in the field for three days, everyone is terribly grateful.

    MASHA. And they also want a boy!

    CONSULTANT. Soldiers?

    MASHA. Moscow! They want a boy of ten or eleven years old, intelligent, of Slavic appearance. So that he asks the president something touching.

    CONSULTANT. Masha, I didn’t guess. Find the boy and...

    MASHA. The boy is already here.

    CONSULTANT. Great. I hope he's an orphan?

    MASHA. No, but it can be arranged. Well, find someone else...

    CONSULTANT. Where else? No time! Let's do this!



    A boy is brought in.



    CONSULTANT. Eagle, what's your name?

    BOY. Andryusha.

    CONSULTANT. Andryusha, the president will talk to you tomorrow. Do you know who our president is?

    BOY. Putin.

    CONSULTANT. Right. What's your name?

    BOY. Andryusha.

    CONSULTANT. Masha, who did you bring?

    MASHA. A boy of Slavic appearance...

    CONSULTANT. We need someone smart, Masha, someone who is smart!

    MASHA. Oh, Nikolai Ilyich, you haven’t seen the others.

    CONSULTANT. Understood. Andryusha, get your brains together! The president's name is Vladimir Vladimirovich. Tomorrow he will talk to you on the plate.

    BOY. They don't talk on plates.

    CONSULTANT. Andryusha, I’ll rip your nails out, do you want it?

    BOY. No!

    CONSULTANT. Then don't say anything, just listen and remember. Tomorrow the entire President of Russia will talk to you, dammit. You say hello to him and ask... Uh-uh... What will he ask, Masha, what will he ask?

    MASHA. What time is it now?

    CONSULTANT. Masha, you need to get some sleep.

    MASHA. Ah-ah-ah, sleep! It's cold as hell! There is no hot water, there is nothing, it’s the fifth day in this hell, Nikolai Ilyich! I can't do it anymore...



    He leaves sobbing.



    CONSULTANT (following). And that means I can, right? I can! (Drinks water, notices the boy). Who are you?

    BOY (horrified). Andryusha.

    CONSULTANT. Oh yes. Andryusha, well, you understand the situation, right? If you ask something touching, otherwise I’ll tear out my nails.

    BOY (horrified). Uncle, can I go?

    CONSULTANT. Stand! You ask him... uh... what did you want to become as a child? (Pause). No, you don’t need to talk about this, you don’t need to talk about that! (Pause). You won't ask anything! You just say: I want to play sports, but in our village there is not a single sports club. He will answer: Andryusha, there will be a sports club in your village tomorrow! Judo and alpine skiing.

    BOY. How do you know what he will answer?

    CONSULTANT. Andryusha, don't touch me! Just remember! He will talk about skiing, you will say “thank you very much”; then the president will joke and ask you to say hi to mom and dad.

    BOY. Is it true?

    CONSULTANT. When did I lie, Andryusha?

    BOY. Can dad call him later?

    CONSULTANT. Do you have a phone here?

    BOY. Yes, at the post office.

    CONSULTANT. Great! Then let dad go to the post office and call.

    BOY. What phone number?

    CONSULTANT. But this, Andryusha, makes no difference. Our president hears everything...

    A curtain.
    1. +1
      April 26 2013 15: 25
      Quote: Den 11
      A curtain.


      Great! I haven’t heard of it before, well, this is the most interesting place, where is the continuation?!!! :(
    2. -1
      April 27 2013 02: 05
      You know, no West can screw us up like we can screw ourselves up. It’s disgusting....Do you think it’s funny?...Russians really can’t be defeated from the outside, but they will destroy themselves from within. I’m sorry that you didn’t you understand such simple things - everything has boundaries that cannot be violated, so as not to give a reason to pour slop on us from the outside... After all, you probably do not bring into public space how your wife scolded you or you scolded her? Or what unseemly act the children committed (this happens to them)? Why do you need to produce such nasty things about Putin?...
  90. Maximus
    0
    April 26 2013 14: 40
    Yesterday I listened to fairy tales from Pu: “we will.. we will do.. we must accept... we must think, discuss... we will make decisions... and so for 12 years - we will, we will do, we will accept, we will think.... ..
  91. Majorloms
    0
    April 26 2013 14: 46
    I have always been interested to hear the answer to the question asked by numerous critics of GDP about who they would like to see in power instead. As a rule, they hesitate and take the topic in another direction. At the moment he has no adequate competitors, none. Well, the fact that everything is bad and nothing is being done is how Moscow was not built right away. Only 20 years have passed since the collapse of the Union, but life in the country has become much better than even under the EBN. The simplest thing is to criticize.
    1. Drosselmeyer
      +6
      April 26 2013 16: 33
      The former Minister of Defense is a thief, but he is not imprisoned, the Minister of Education (!!!) swears on live television, but he is not removed from his post. Chubais had regular CIA employees working at his side, and the president talked about this in passing, but Chubais is good with billions of dollars in shortfalls. Skolkovo is being sawed, but Putin pretends that everything is fine. Medvedev, as the head of the government, is clearly not coping and is plundering the budget with all sorts of bilyalovs, but they still don’t work enough, and we won’t change the team. Take Putin's kondrashka now, what are you gentlemen, Russians, going to do? And so, there is no one to lure Putin, he has made himself indispensable and this will come back to haunt him.
    2. Rrv
      Rrv
      +1
      April 26 2013 20: 04
      And I’ve been wondering for a long time - what kind of sacred cow is Putin? What is it about Zyu that doesn’t suit you?
      Just don’t talk about losing the elections - there will be more betrayals of the people’s interests on Pu’s part.
      1. +1
        April 27 2013 02: 09
        What NGO are you from? Guardian of the interests of the people...
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          +1
          April 27 2013 02: 37
          Nina, I asked you a question - do you have any facts indicating positive dynamics? In one of your posts you mentioned arguments - do you have them?

          I am ready to discuss, prove my position with examples and figures - are you ready for this? Or do all your arguments boil down to dissatisfaction with my position because it does not coincide with yours?
  92. +4
    April 26 2013 15: 13
    Today, according to the president, Rusnano’s losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles, and the president does not see a crime here.

    If so, Mr. President, give me 2,5 billion rubles, I will spend every penny on roads, and then I will show you these roads in reality, and not on paper, as your officials do. Or is spending on something necessary and tangible a crime???
  93. led1989
    +2
    April 26 2013 15: 28
    When you talk about weapons, you seem to be smart people. And as politics begins to smell like a swamp area. There are so many smart people here who are against Putin, if you don’t mind, write a program of actions that the authorities need to do in the near future, just please, without the slogans “Defeat corruption”, “Revival production”, try to describe at least in a first approximation what and how to do.
    1. -2
      April 26 2013 16: 05
      To draw up programs, there are corresponding authorities and institutions subordinate to the government and the president. We pay them a salary from our taxes. They are people hired by the people precisely to solve these issues. And if you, for example, are a doctor and cannot make a qualified diagnosis, this does not mean at all that an engineer or a teacher or a lawyer will come and prescribe the correct treatment for the patient for you . Everyone should mind their own business...Ordinary people just want to live normally and be confident in the safety of their lives and their loved ones, as well as in their future.
      1. led1989
        0
        April 26 2013 16: 40
        That is, you admit that the majority of those who criticize the authorities are not competent and do not understand what they are actually against?
    2. djon3volta
      -3
      April 26 2013 17: 18
      Quote: Led1989
      When you talk about weapons, you seem to be smart people. And as politics begins to smell like a swamp area.

      I hit the bull's eye. Here everyone has turned into bulk, most don't notice it, but from the outside you can see that the full bulk of them are sitting on the topwar.
      1. led1989
        +2
        April 26 2013 17: 52
        Well, basically as I expected. There is no answer to a fairly simple question; it’s good to sit on the couch and scream how bad everything is when you don’t have any ideas. In general, it’s strange on the site for a long time, it seems that at first the views of the majority were moderate, what happened to the people?
        1. +2
          April 27 2013 02: 20
          This same question torments me... I used to visit the site with such pleasure. I didn’t register for a long time, I was embarrassed... And now, as if all the NGOs had moved here, it became impossible to carry on a conversation. Zero arguments, just statements. Moreover in the form of the ultimate truth. I expressed a slightly different opinion - screw it! Okay, the minuses. I’m a big girl and I don’t care about them, but direct insults begin... I really don’t understand what’s going on. All the literate guys stopped showing up altogether, even KAA...Do you have any assumptions? Enlighten me. Maybe in a personal message.
          1. 0
            April 27 2013 08: 41
            Quote: Tverichanka
            Do you have any assumptions? Please enlighten me.


            You see, RRV is generally right about something. You can’t just make a serious program. To do this, you need a lot of information, additional research, staff for calculations, etc. At most, I myself wrote development strategies for factories, etc. (40 in total), albeit at the federal level, but small ones, not oil companies :), so I had at my disposal almost all the resources of the plant (i.e. marketers, economists, etc. .d.). And it took several months. But the most interesting thing is that a little less resources are required to implement all this. And this is just a plant.
            For our region, for N million rubles, a respected institute made a development strategy. Beautiful. From the outside. But whoever has encountered those mentioned in it, it is immediately clear that it is unreal - divorced from life. Details that seem small at first glance don’t fit together, and without docking, all the millions are down the drain. Because they didn’t do much work, and they didn’t allocate money for the work.
            Earlier, in Soviet times, we students were involved in all sorts of research, measurements, etc. Free, for the sake of the state. And we didn’t even think about anything else. But now it’s not - it is believed that students “belong” to the university, and at the university there are a bunch of all sorts of “scientific laboratories” to which you pay money - and they will exploit the students :) :( That’s why I say, without money nothing can be done now :(
            We, here or there - personally in general - can only express directions in line with who is special in what. And at the global level - just suggest how, from our point of view, to do something. But this is NOT a program - a program means it is scheduled according to goals-tasks-performers-deadlines-resources-results.
            In general, in any business there are 4 questions, only by answering which can something be done effectively, these are: WHAT to do, HOW to do it, WHY to do it this way, and most importantly - WHY to do it at all. This is the program, but I’m afraid we can’t figure out anything so comprehensive on a state scale :(
      2. +1
        April 27 2013 17: 33
        Well, not everyone has a quarterly bonus and the average salary for Russia. Some have 14, some have 7. It’s all the more unpleasant when the boss gets 60, especially for sick leave and part-time vacations from the entire office. These are the dissatisfied ones, chatterboxes and agents of the State Department... In general, everyone who has a salary below the statistical average is an agent of the State Department. And everyone who cannot live on the minimum wage is the same.
    3. ed65b
      +3
      April 26 2013 18: 20
      Yes, I don’t mind, it was just painful, we were waiting for specific answers to specific questions. And the Ministry of Defense and Rosagroleasing and NANO, come on, Skolkovo, etc. And you get PSHIC. This is where the soul is taken away. And me too.
    4. Rrv
      Rrv
      0
      April 26 2013 20: 09
      Quote: Led1989
      write a program of actions that need to be done in the near future by the authorities, but please, no slogans


      No problem, we have a staff of consultants - it will be ready in three months. We work with prepayment, will you pay personally?
      1. led1989
        0
        17 May 2013 13: 32
        Sorry, but, in theory, the “alternative” to the current government should pay, shouldn’t it? Or does everyone who is against not need a program of action?
    5. +2
      April 27 2013 02: 12
      With “how” you are in the wrong place. This is a competition in slander, not in drawing up programs. To create a program, you must have a head, but you can throw shit at them without preparation. People are earning advantages. What kind of programs are there...
      1. -1
        April 27 2013 02: 20
        This is what long-term abstinence from sexual activity leads to! Well, somehow you should show feminine ingenuity!
  94. Vtel
    +1
    April 26 2013 15: 29
    People on the Internet ask: why doesn’t the state set specific goals for the development of science and when will all the money in Skolkovo be stolen?

    Vladimir Putin: You probably know that this project is not under my control.
    (money theft project?) But order will be maintained there.(in line, fellow bureaucrats, on what issue - procedural - please wait) I am sure that no one will allow theft there.(Well said - there is nothing to add, everything has already been stolen before us) As for specific tasks, this should be asked from the Ministry of Education and Science.(comrade Livanov has a very “smart” comrade) This project creates conditions for attracting new people, rather than setting specific scientific tasks.(Not everything is old - it must be shared with the young and nimble, Ponamarev is not good)
  95. tomich
    +2
    April 26 2013 15: 33
    "according to the president, Rusnano's losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles, and the president does not see a crime here"
    Yes, of course, Chubik rolled back the GDP as it should, so there is no composition)))

    at least I wouldn't embarrass myself
    1. +1
      April 27 2013 02: 26
      Disgrace yourself first of all! Your writings are read not only by your friends, but as it is not surprising for you, also by the enemies of our country. And they happily rub their hands.... Yeah, great, good, all right! They will find you another one. Only then not cry.
    2. +1
      April 27 2013 08: 58
      This, in his opinion, is not theft, but simply ineffective spending.... But this is not punishable. It turns out interesting - EFFICIENT managers DO NOT SPEND the allocated money EFFICIENTLY. I may repeat myself, but Putin does not want to realize that everyone around him is THIEVES. There, a non-thief will be just a black sheep and will be eaten alive. If he is unable to show political will and imprison high-ranking officials, then this clearly shows that he himself is someone’s protege. He cannot make such a decision. Apparently he is "UNDER MUELLER'S CAP." And this is already very dangerous for the country.
  96. -1
    April 26 2013 16: 13
    A very good analysis of this straight line:

    http://chipstone.livejournal.com/1042311.html?view=17376903#t17376903
  97. TekhnarMAF
    +1
    April 26 2013 16: 31
    I listened completely, despite being busy (after all, I live in a village, it’s gardening season) and I was upset. I'm not a Putinist, but I voted for him. I am one of those who said there is no other alternative. But this choice, to my deep disappointment, turned out to be “out of line.” Putin is a good rhetorician, he knows how to squeeze a “tear” out of patriots who want to live in a beautiful and rich COUNTRY (this is a geographical concept). After the speech of the Supreme Commander and the President, I realized: “There’s nothing to catch here”! Yeltsin lived, Yeltsin is alive, Yeltsin will live! Sincerely, TekhnarMAF and a natural technician, unlike ...
  98. Drosselmeyer
    +3
    April 26 2013 16: 36
    I moved a little in power circles, so this TV show makes me sick, knowing why people get to leadership positions. And the people are still waiting for a good king, they think that their meaningless calls to Putin will change something and he will immediately solve their problems. I surprise people with their narrow-mindedness who call these direct lines.
  99. djon3volta
    -9
    April 26 2013 17: 15
    Envy and weak powerlessness control the instincts of hamsters. They themselves can’t do anything, they themselves can’t do anything - all that remains is to crap on other people’s achievements and abilities.

    I suggest everyone dissatisfied with life to lie in coffins and die, not to pollute the information space with their hatred.

    hi
    1. +10
      April 26 2013 17: 19
      Quote: djon3volta
      , lie in coffins and die, do not pollute the information space with your hatred.

      You still don’t understand anything John, there is no hatred here, people just lack simple justice in the country and that’s all. As Putin said, the law is the same for everyone, but this is not so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  100. +4
    April 26 2013 17: 23
    Putin, that’s why the president has reached that level, because, contrary to would-be commentators, he doesn’t act on emotions like they do. He is playing a complex political game. If we omit its tone (and paper, as we know, does not convey tone), then what remains behind the scenes? And the fact that career CIA intelligence officers worked in the highest echelons of power and who could not resist the temptation to “get rich.” What then can we say about our local officials? Let's ask ourselves questions
    What were the CIA officers doing here and what did they take an active part in? After all, they weren’t sitting in the bathhouses with the chicks, right?
    Did they take part in legislative activities?
    For what purpose did they pass such laws?
    In creating a personnel system and allowing your own people into ministerial chairs?
    How did these CIA actions affect the condition of our citizens?
    And most importantly, to what extent has the system built by CIA employees survived NOW? To what extent does it continue to operate (NPO - $1 billion)

    I’m afraid from all this we can conclude that the Russian Federation is under occupation, and Putin is the leader of the national liberation movement. Moreover, the LAW and the CONSTITUTION and MINISTERS act against him in the interests of the USA
    1. UFO
      0
      April 26 2013 19: 07
      This is a lecture by Deputy E. Fedorov, do you have your own opinion?