Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries

Russia has no intention of attacking anyone. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has stated this bluntly. He added that Moscow is even prepared to sign legal security guarantees—documented proof that it has no plans to attack NATO countries.

But, as Lavrov added, there's still no peace. The Alliance is moving ever closer to Russia's borders, building military bases, and this, he said, already looks like preparation for something much bigger.

We do not threaten, but we see how the iron at our doors is ringing ever louder.

– this is how one can convey the general message of the minister.

Russia, Lavrov says, is not opposed to reciprocal steps: if NATO abandons its expansion to the East, Moscow is ready to formalize its own obligations on paper.

Meanwhile, a softer signal came from the United States. Russian Presidential Special Representative Kirill Dmitriev told Fox News that Moscow sees an opportunity for negotiations on Ukraine.

According to him, peace can be built on three pillars. First, provide security guarantees for Kyiv. Next, determine the status of regions with Russian-speaking populations. The final step is to secure Ukraine's neutral status.

He emphasizes that Russia is ready to stand by its word—to give Ukraine real security guarantees—if in return there is even the slightest willingness to engage in dialogue.

Comments

[Smoker]

They started to bow and scrape, and very actively at that... it seems the economy is starting to sag.

[al3x]

It looks like the economy is starting to sag.

Really? That can't be right. As Putin says, "sanctions aren't a problem for us," or something like that. Let everyone decide for themselves who he meant by "us."

[I_Kov]

Quote: al3x

It looks like the economy is starting to sag.

Really? That can't be right. As Putin says, "sanctions aren't a problem for us," or something like that. Let everyone decide for themselves who he meant by "us."

In our country everything is for the good of man... You know this man.

[alex-defensor]

if in response there is even the slightest readiness for dialogue.

"The slightest readiness" can't be converted into anything tangible for Russia. So we must prepare for war. The European elite is thirsty for it...

[Plate]

The government began raising taxes, and naturally, dissatisfied people emerged... the same ones who called for mobilizing the economy for war?
P.S. Actually, there were calls for censorship here, and then they started squawking against Roskomnadzor's blocking. I started doing the same, I don't deny it. But why was there a call for it?

[gsev]

Quote: al3x

As Putin says, "sanctions are no obstacle to us," or something like that.

The obstacle isn't sanctions, but excess profits and windfalls in Russia's financial sector, rising borrowing costs and taxes for industry, and financiers' veto over excess profit taxes in trade and the financial sector. A 20% interest rate on loans and a 22% VAT will stifle small and medium-sized businesses, triggering an exodus of engineering and technical workers to countries more suited to intellectual labor like Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, and Vietnam. This will then lead to a complete collapse in Russia when supervisors in Shchuchye, in the absence of engineers, are unable to determine which cables can be used at a given site.

[Stranger03]

A 20% loan interest rate and a 22% VAT will stifle small and medium-sized businesses.

SMEs are practically dead already. They're either closed or struggling to survive. How long we'll survive is anyone's guess. But the line is already visible, beyond which only closure will occur.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Smoker

They started to bow and scrape, and very actively at that... it seems the economy is starting to sag.

It doesn't matter anymore. In any case, if we waver, they'll only increase the pressure. Their pressure must be met with even greater destruction of Ukraine. Its maintenance must become indecently expensive for the West. That's the only way. All their guarantees are worthless. They'll ease one set of sanctions, and immediately impose even stronger ones for any trumped-up reason.

[spectr]

The pressure will continue to increase. At the beginning of the conflict, Ukraine was given some guarantees in the event of a war with Russia. Clearly, some provisions of these guarantees will not be fulfilled. And the West must be shown that Russia will pay dearly for this. If this is not done, the West's authority in global politics will be significantly weakened, and China may even decide to seize Taiwan.
Personally, I'm betting on a third party intervening in the conflict. Poland has been persistently groomed for this role so far. Money has been poured into their defense industry, weapons have been supplied, and exercises have been constantly held on their territory. The French, with their Foreign Legion, aren't quite up to the task yet. They're more likely to work with the British to prepare some kind of provocation to force the Poles into this conflict.

[qQQQ]

Quote: spectr

Personally, I'm betting that a third party will intervene in the conflict.

I don't think there will be a third party, because this is already a world war. They have a third party, and then we'll invite the Koreans, not just on our territory, and things are escalating. If they wanted to expand the conflict, they would have already gotten involved in Transnistria. A third party needs at least some kind of mutual truce.

[spectr]

I think there will be no third party, because this is already a World War.

So what? For some reason, no one wants to believe that another world war will break out in their lifetime. But it will definitely break out someday. Why not now?
Power corrupts. The higher a person sits in the hierarchy, the more bizarre their thinking becomes. For example, our organization helped another enter the international market. In gratitude, its director declared he would destroy our company and take all the employees for himself.

[qQQQ]

Quote: spectr

Why not now?
Power corrupts.

You're certainly right, but the fact that Transnistria is not being touched yet supports my theory. The West has more to lose than we do. Moreover, if their elite doesn't perish in a nuclear frenzy, they'll certainly lose everything. I think, or rather, I hope, that it won't come to that. They'll press with Ukrainian forces for as long as they can, and then they'll create another hotbed, into which our chess players (or, in my opinion, checkers players) will drag us, but only one at a time.

[spectr]

We'll see. In my opinion, the period 2026-2028 is decisive. If there is no further escalation or nuclear exchange during this period, the conflict will subside.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Smoker

they started to bow and scrape

We do not threaten, but we see how the iron at our doors is ringing ever louder.

The entire Foreign Ministry should watch the film "The Beekeeper"... It clearly shows how people greet those who set fire to a house and start rattling iron...

[Vadim S]

See? Haven't you seen the prices yourself? They've already started charging for parking near residential buildings. It's only just the beginning, but it will eventually reach every city, district, and street. Many people still live in a beautiful world painted by propaganda.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vadim S, soon pedestrians will be getting "letters of happiness" too. Walked the dog in the wrong place, dropped a piece of paper in the wrong place, crossed the street in the wrong place...

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Is that a problem? Dogs should be walked only where permitted (we're talking about cities, of course), and owners are obligated to clean up after them. There's no point in throwing papers around—cleanliness isn't where people clean, but where people don't litter... Cross the road where it's permitted—what's wrong with that? And fines for these violations—thankfully, 5 years of experience have shown that fear of punishment for violating these rules is the main motivator, heh-heh... even better—when punishment is inevitable, what's wrong with that?

If the principle "don't be a pig to others" works, then life will be more pleasant...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

For big cities, I agree. But imagine a small regional center where some idiot put up a sign that clearly shouldn't be there. And then, I personally only throw cigarette butts in the trash can, I don't litter—I even carry my bus ticket to the trash can. But as for the blanket installation of video cameras—that's a very complex and controversial issue. Very complex.

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Don't confuse your fur...

What do the rules (and the rules are not approved entirely arbitrarily) have to do with the individual stupidity of the executive branch or simply a fool - the head of a village/district, etc.?

There is also nonsense in the rules, but much less often than private nonsense...

Here, every darned balloon thinks it's an airship, but that's always been the case, everywhere, and it's always been that way, that's the nature of humanity... you can't fix it, but you can and should correct it, that's why rules are written...

Cameras are incredibly useful, and they help catch criminals (this has even been reported before). I agree that access to cameras and the trading of recordings doesn't paint anyone in a good light, but kitchen knives and forks are used tens and hundreds of times more often than combat knives to kill... again, it's not the cameras that are the issue, but the people...

So, all the deputy defense ministers turned out to be crooks—that's no reason to cancel the money as such, really! The question is for those who appointed and managed them... something like that...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vasily, is there a "state of emergency" everywhere in our country? I don't think so. There are still many problems. We can live without cameras. More of this parliamentary nonsense with these cameras. Listen to these "people's representatives" and you wonder who elected them? They're probably mental patients. That's why not everyone had the right to vote in Ancient Rome. The famous "citizens and people of Rome"...

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Vasily, is there a "state of emergency" everywhere in our country? I don't think so. There are still many problems. We can live without cameras. More of this parliamentary nonsense with these cameras. Listen to these "people's representatives" and you wonder who elected them.

In the country, just like at home, something constantly requires cleaning, repair, replacement, but I can't recall any countries that are "in order." Well, Sweden was a country of victorious socialism, but that too has passed...

So without rules (that is, law) everything is the same - nowhere, otherwise there will be anarchy...

Well, whoever got elected (to the State Duma) is the one who screws us ))) It seems like a platitude, but it works, ha-ha... I agree that they spew such nonsense from time to time that it makes your hair stand on end... And what about the people? Are they all perfect and crystal clear? So we have the kind of government we deserve, no more and no less... The compensatory function of checks and balances isn't something that happens by itself either; the result will be how the government sets it up. So, we have what we have...

And how do you propose disenfranchising people? It seems that this has already happened, and not everyone liked it...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vasily, you and I think alike. As for "citizens and people of Rome," that's certainly a utopia, but it's been a dream of mine since my first year of law school. Of course, it smacks of legal discrimination, but there's a grain of truth to it. Agree. If you're interested, look into Rome's electoral laws.

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

If you are interested, look into the electoral law of Rome.

Greshen, first year law school was very interesting, the "youngsters" discussed all this heatedly at seminars, and we, the "old-timers", chuckled))), because all this was so far removed from life - wow...
The group included the Presidential Plenipotentiary Envoy (I'll leave out his name) and a couple of well-known deputies... so they tried to avoid participating in discussions on this topic, absolutely not.
It was only mentioned in passing (I won't say who) that this is all for the plebs... in reality, it's quite the opposite, like "well, you know"...
Sorry for all these equivocations (“I will abstain”, “I will omit”...), but it is what it is
“To a young man pondering his life, / deciding whom to model his life on, / I will say without hesitation, / model it on comrade Dzerzhinsky/”… V. Mayakovsky

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I agree...))) But still, Roman law remains a classic for many centuries. It's quite possible that there are things that we moderns don't understand so well... But empires don't just arise out of nowhere. Just as they don't disappear...

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Roman law - you must admit, is still the law of the strong...
And today's performance of the ancient version sounds very, very sluggish...
When the current redivision of the world is completed, we will see a new version of Roman law.
But in what form is a murky matter... so we'll see. If we live that long.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vasily Ostrovsky, you and I will soon get to the philosophy course.) But I agree with you! The same definition of "the law of the strong" can be applied to international law. We had an excellent international law professor. He gave a lecture. Everything was excellent, everything was perfect. We all listened, taking notes with a smart look. And then, at the end of the lecture, after a pause, he said, "International law, dear colleagues, is the law of the strong. Compliance with international law is the duty of the weak. Just don't take notes...")))

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

I accept it 100%...
Our department head responded to my "quirk" about the UN's significant role in international law: "You're certainly a smart guy... but seriously, don't say that nonsense out loud; the professionals might think you're a fool."

And he himself wrote textbooks about MPP That really sobered me up then. Less than 25 years have passed - and the end of this whole UN-centric structure... it's a pity, I wish I could sign his own textbook now with the date 2025 and his dedication... it would be a very valuable copy - an apotheosis... great, it would be a museum piece!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Well, yes... It would really be a museum piece..)))

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

I recently had Bastrykin sign his book about the murder of Kirov...
I wish there was more from Ustinov about the Kursk disaster... right now, when so much has become known since those days when these events took place... I really want to think that Ustinov is already ashamed of his book...

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

By the way, under what law would the guarantees our foreign minister Lavrov speak of be granted? Could it really be the now-defunct "international" law?
And under what law will Russia provide guarantees to the country? What iteration of public international law? This is a place for theorists to entertain themselves – until the carrot-and-stick rule...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

De jure, they will give some kind of "guarantees".
De facto, for country 404, there are no guarantees, nor can there be any. It's in country 404's interests to behave in a way that preserves at least some "guarantees." Everything in the world is relative. Everything flows and everything changes. In Tehran and Podsdam, "guarantees" were also given.

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Frankly speaking, I would return to the formulations of “eternal peace,” “eternal friends,” and other similar formulations from the 13th-18th centuries in the international treaty arena...

So that everyone reading these agreements, even the most stupid, understands - all agreements are valid only until the first day when the party to the agreement has more/less power...
On all the TV channels, they're treading on the topic of contracts and agreements, despite all these textbook cases of "we were deceived"...
Maybe at least they'll fool fewer people... it's scary when people are manipulated so ruthlessly and in any direction...
And here we are talking about the right... and the left...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Ah, if only you could drink mead from your lips! And the population—they've been fooled, are fooling, and will continue to fool them, for centuries and millennia. The name for this is "state.")))

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Everything is transient, only deception is eternal... Whether fortunately or not, state "deception" is a necessary thing, without it the state cannot exist... and there is no other way to unite the population yet... Any ideology is a deception, and only the question of the voluntariness of the deception matters.
This is the answer I heard at the lecture, my jaw dropped... and the guy is only 19 years old...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

"Any ideology is a deception, and only the question of the voluntariness of the deception matters."
Agreed! I'll add: The state is an institution of coercion. Freedom and democracy are the dream of Neanderthals.
All the best to you. It was a pleasure talking with you.)

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Mutually
Compliments
All the best!

[alexoff]

Recently, a member of parliament proposed automatic fines for crossing railway tracks in the wrong place.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Alexander, I was talking about "some deputy..." I remembered a story: I asked my mother-in-law (she was a wonderful woman, may she rest in peace): "Mom, which deputy did you vote for?" She gave his name. I asked, "Why? What did you like about his speech?" My mother-in-law replied, "He dresses very well." And then I understood where we get these "people's representatives" from the PEOPLE.

[alexoff]

It's mostly post-Balzac-aged women and grandmothers who vote. And they choose with their hearts. Macron, for example.

[carpenter]

Quote: Vadim S

They have already started making parking near residential buildings paid, but so far they have only just started

They're catching up with the West; almost all of our parking has been paid for a long time now.

[Vadim S]

In residential areas near residential buildings? In quiet courtyards? That's exactly what I'm talking about, not the city center, which has long been divided, but specifically residential areas. I thought they started only with our relatively new residential complex, sort of spotty, but I saw the map and saw who's next.

[Dimy4]

They've already started making parking near residential buildings paid. This is just the beginning, but it will reach every city, district, and street.

Here we can add parking lots for cars behind the old gates of some old man's village houses.

[Pravodel]

They started to bow and scrape, and very actively at that... it seems the economy is starting to sag.

You've started clapping too soon, poor smoker, or are you stoned, or are you haunted by the laurels of a foreigner?

[torbas41]

"I just wanted to say that all thoughts that have enormous consequences are always simple. My whole idea is that if vicious people are connected with each other and form a force, then honest people only need to do the same. After all, how simple. - Yes."
War and Peace by L.N. Tolstoy

[Mars]

Why are NATO members so afraid of the paper tiger that they have started increasing their military budgets so sharply?

[ZovSailor]

Smoker
Today, 15: 56
They started to bow and scrape, and very actively at that... it seems the economy is starting to sag.

Diplomacy is a subtle science.
Following the successful testing of the Burevestnik, a message to the world is needed, free from sycophancy and with the protection of the interests of the Russian people and state.
It is important to keep your powder dry in all agreements with the false West, represented by the Anglo-Saxon enemies; any agreement must be confirmed by force in a world without rights and rules.

[Commissar Kitten]

The signing could take place in Budapest, and the document could be called the "Budapest Memorandum."

[Scipio African]

Are they ready for such guarantees? Although they cannot be trusted, they are saturated with lies, WE paid for their lies with blood, our Grandfathers in 41 did not open fire on the Fritzes until the very end, believing their word and the pact.

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Scipio African

Are they ready for such guarantees? Although they cannot be trusted, they are saturated with lies, WE paid for their lies with blood, our Grandfathers in 41 did not open fire on the Fritzes until the very end, believing their word and the pact.

Well, one of our grandfathers likes to be deceived once again.

[carpenter]

Quote: Scipio African

And are they ready for such guarantees - although they cannot be trusted,

It’s true that in August 1939 we signed a non-aggression pact, and two years later we were attacked.
And the same thing will happen now. The West has long since developed a program, and they're slowly pushing it forward.
There is only one thing here - be prepared for anything.

[Plate]

Quote: kventinasd

Instead of giving a harsh ultimatum to our enemies

What ultimatum? Giving the US an ultimatum (of any kind) would be even more disgraceful. Sure, you could declare, "Either stop aid to Ukraine, or the whole world will crumble." But that's the ultimate disgrace imaginable.
Will there be any adequate alternatives at all?

[Vadim S]

They can't wait to fly to European resorts again, and many still have property "there," so they should fly there and check if migrants have moved in. And you're here talking about thoughts about the people.

[guest]

Quote: kventinasd

Instead of giving a harsh ultimatum to our enemies

Well, that's it our enemies, not their enemies.

[Prometey]

Quote: g_ae

The head of the Ministry of Concerns should keep quiet, if only he could embarrass himself, then he would go on until the end.

This vegetable has long since been disgraced.

[Same lech]

My God, what is this...has Lavrov forgotten what promises were made to Gorbachev about not expanding NATO to the east.
What...he's stepping on the same old rake again.

[foxes]

They can't be trained. This has been clearly demonstrated over the past 40 years. Russian gravediggers.

[guest]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

What...he's stepping on the same old rake again.

And how could we do without a rake?

[Gomunkul]

He emphasizes that Russia is ready to stand by its word—to give Ukraine real security guarantees—if in return there is even the slightest willingness to engage in dialogue.

For some reason this phrase really caught my eye.

[torbas41]

Ukrainians are serious warriors; it's no wonder they're second only to Russia in the number of Heroes of the USSR in WWII. And they fight to the death and never surrender. "Russia is ready to give Ukraine real guarantees." Guarantees of what, and from whom, if no one fears you anymore, not even the stinking Finns.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Yeah, right, "warriors"... They were ahead of the rest of the world in terms of the number of traitors and spies during WWII. Apparently, that's why they showed Kozhedub everywhere, to compensate for the shame of Khatyn.

[VSO-396]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Yeah, right, "warriors"... They were ahead of the rest of the world in terms of the number of traitors and spies during WWII. Apparently, that's why they showed Kozhedub everywhere, to compensate for the shame of Khatyn.

Oh, let's somehow avoid this Skabeev-Soloviev thing. Otherwise, you'd think General Vlasov was a loser, and the Lokot Republic was somewhere in Galicia.

[foxes]

There is not and never was such a nationality as "Russians".

[mikh-korsakov]

Sergey! There is no such thing as a Russian nationality. A Russian is a citizen of the Russian Federation, which is home to various nationalities. For example, a Jew is not Russian now, although it used to be different, but a Jew is Russian.

[mikh-korsakov]

Nemo! Me too. The slightest willingness for dialogue? A hundred times over!!! They'll even shake your hand. I remembered!!! Yes, I remembered a lot. I remembered, for example, how Margaret Thatcher charmed our "mineral" secretary. Now Donald Trump likewise loves to talk about how pleasant it is to communicate with Vladimir Putin. Furthermore, our leader loves to talk about how his partners cheated him, while in Russia it was widely reported that there was no alternative to the Minsk agreements. But the lesson was not learned.

[Gomunkul]

Mikhail, it seems like our president has gotten carried away with the image of the good guy from American westerns, where the good guy defeats the bad guys just because he’s good.

"I thought you were good, but look at you!"

Cowboy Rhapsody 1985.

[Adrey]

Quote: Gomunkul

He emphasizes that Russia is ready to stand by its word—to give Ukraine real security guarantees—if in return there is even the slightest willingness to engage in dialogue.
For some reason this phrase really caught my eye.

The other one made me smile more.

Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries.

Are they really afraid of this now, to the point of shaking in their knees?

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

Here they are, without any guarantees, "can't even eat" (c)

Only if it's a game within a game, with the certainty that nothing further will follow...
But it's hard to believe they won't deceive. Even if the gallows stand, the West will lie and wriggle like a snake to save its own skin, and then immediately throw a stone at Russia's head... that's how it has been and that will be. And every time, a new generation of our leaders tries to see if they'll be deceived. They're such sweethearts, such nice guys, and we're just as bourgeois... well, we're our own guys... and - bam, right in the eye... again, just like 100, just like 500 years ago... but a new Gorbachev/Khrushchev/Yeltsin appears - and the cycle begins again... not to mention the tsarist era...

[Fan-fan]

Russia has no intention of attacking anyone. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has stated this bluntly.

I remember Lavrov's press conference after the start of the Second World War. He was asked, "Why did you attack Ukraine?" He replied, "We didn't attack anyone." After that, I felt terribly ashamed of such a minister.

[I dare to_notice_]

According to him, peace can be built on three pillars. First and foremost, providing security guarantees for Kyiv.
I curse you! (c)

[torbas41]

Really, everything is raw up to the tomatoes, here you have the stormy weathercock along with the hazelnut.

[ugos]

The euphoria of "Burevestnik" is over, life has arrived... And how we breathed... I probably got about 100 downvotes for saying that Burevestnik is crap and has nothing to do with SVO...

[Hypertension]

Russia, says Lavrov, is not against reciprocal steps: if NATO abandons its expansion to the East

Yes. Also, let Finland and Sweden return to their neutral status, or else! Last time they also promised not to expand. We have a multipolar world here, gentlemen Americans.

[AK-1945]

Our economy has truly begun to sag sharply, and for some time now. The cushion has already run out. You, sirs, are wondering why they started raising taxes and increasing all possible fees—that's precisely why. And all the bravura talk about sanctions being irrelevant to us is just putting on a brave face when the going gets tough.

[Vadim S]

It's just that many people live in their own little, safe little world, and something's starting to sink in. They've already started introducing paid parking near residential buildings; soon they'll be everywhere! In every city, in every quiet courtyard, they'll reach everyone; the law has already begun to take effect. We've had 3 a year, for starters, since January 1st. The economy is simply plummeting, faster than a dagger.

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Vadim S

It's just that many people live in their own little, safe little world, and something's starting to sink in. They've already started introducing paid parking near residential buildings; soon they'll be everywhere! In every city, in every quiet courtyard, they'll reach everyone; the law has already begun to take effect. We've had 3 a year, for starters, since January 1st. The economy is simply plummeting, faster than a dagger.

I'd be interested in knowing which city introduced paid parking in apartment buildings and preparing for something similar.

[Vadim S]

That's exactly where they started, with the capital! With the most remote residential areas, just a few at a time, but a map was shown of who's next, incrementally. I understand the downvoters don't believe it; they have their own rosy world, but it's already the law, it's in effect, people are already registering it, and soon everyone's life will be a little more fun :(

[Akuzenka]

The economy is simply falling into the abyss, faster than a dagger.

Why shouldn't it fly? It's a commodity-based and speculative economy. It only benefits oligarchs and speculators. This would have happened even without sanctions and the SVO, just a little later.

[igorbrsv]

The economy is simply falling into the abyss, faster than a dagger.

And there are more and more cars and the houses are getting taller... Where paid parking will come from, I have no idea...

[Vadim S]

Pensioners, why are you always downvoting? Are you really satisfied? It's time for you to get ready for the Old Lady, and they're still dissatisfied. Enjoy your last days.

[Reklastik]

You, dear ones, think why they started raising taxes and increasing all possible fees, that’s exactly why.

- In your world, you are the smartest. I understood right away.

[Ross xnumx]

Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries

But there's no need to rush here... 1939 and the pact that guaranteed it stand before our eyes today... And look how things turned out... You can count on your fingers the number of countries whose citizens didn't fight on Hitler's side against the USSR.

[Prometey]

Quote: ROSS 42

But there is no need to rush here... 1939 and the pact that guaranteed it stand before our eyes today...

To be fair, the USSR desperately needed this pact. Overall, the two years contributed significantly to the country's defense capability.

[Akuzenka]

And it wasn't a waste of time for Germany either. The USSR received equipment that helped it defeat the Nazis, and Germany received raw materials.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: ROSS 42

You can count on your fingers the number of countries whose citizens did not fight on Hitler's side against the USSR.

and the citizens of the USSR themselves fought against it in no small numbers.

[igorbrsv]

The material is presented as if someone decided to test our reaction to the expected outcome of the SVO: either its rapid end followed by bidding, or continuation until victory. I'm in favor of a rapid end due to victory, just in case.

[sdivt]

Quote: igorbrsv

The material is presented as if someone decided to test our reaction to the expected outcome of the SVO

Oh, stop it)
Who needs our reaction? Everything will happen (if necessary, and if it happens) much more prosaically.
Those at the top will say: that's it, we've achieved everything!
A team of tame political scientists will throw in ready-made justifications for these words (and they probably already exist, don’t doubt it!)
Tomorrow, the backlash will start on all channels - that we have achieved what we wanted, that no one needs to level Ukraine with the face of the Earth, that they - our Slavic brothers - were just a little mistaken, that we have proven to the West (what exactly we have proven - they will also say), and so on and so forth.
Then all this will be picked up by paid commentators on numerous forums - and that's it.
The deed is done

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote from sdivt

Who needs our reaction? Everything will happen (if necessary, and if it happens) much more prosaically.

Many people still find it difficult to accept that nothing depends on them.

[Pravodel]

Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries

Why keep saying the same old thing over and over again, "Russia won't attack, Russia won't attack," and so on? Now they're talking about guarantees. The Europeans don't give a damn about all Russia's promises and guarantees. They need a war in Europe because they see war as their only salvation from economic collapse. Therefore, the Europeans are deliberately going to war.

[Fan-fan]

What guarantees can there be now? Especially on paper. Only the naive would believe such guarantees. The best guarantee is a million-strong army behind us, 1000 ICBMs, and a hundred submarines—that's a guarantee.

[Roman Efremov]

Well what the stupid people in power!!! Wherever you look - stupid peopleOne guy is planning to dig a tunnel under the Bering Strait, another is planning to build a station on the Moon, and this guy wants to give non-aggression guarantees! Guarantees to those who have been attacking us for four years now?????………

[Roman Efremov]

In the original I had idiots

[Don Analyst]

NATO cannot be given such guarantees.
This is a road to nowhere... This is the path of the USSR.
The same non-aggression and disarmament treaty in a new way...
Do you want there to be no Russians left on the planet?
Will we finally have intelligent elites?

[Don Analyst]

I appeal openly to our authorities:
You will resolve at least one foreign policy issue with the Anglo-Saxons without the expense of Russia and the Russians.
Think with your head!

[guest]

Quote: Don Analyst

I appeal openly to our authorities

They don't read here.

[Fan-fan]

But "Comrade Major" reads and reports where necessary.

[foxes]

Will this endless disgrace, which has been going on for 40 years, ever end?

[guest]

Quote: Vulpes

Will this endless disgrace, which has been going on for 40 years, ever end?

The much more important question is, "How will it end?"

[Andrey Ko]

About the economy within the country: as in Krylov's fable - everyone pulls in their own direction,
The Central Bank is against the country and a healthy economy, the oligarchy is worried about its own pockets, the government is endless forums, summits, and incomprehensible national projects with dubious results,
About politics - where is there a clear understanding of where we are going and why (painted clouds of prosperity) --------- In Karaganov's last speech on the program, a lot was said, in particular, that we need to give it to others in the teeth and as often as possible, they won't understand without it

[guest]

to consolidate Ukraine's neutral status.

And how can this be done when Ukraine is planning to join the EU?

[Fan-fan]

You don't understand, neutral status does not mean joining NATO.

[guest]

Quote: Fan-Fan

You don't understand, neutral status does not mean joining NATO.

Well, the EU is basically the same as NATO, but in profile.

[Anyuta Glorious]

This is all empty, idiotic chatter from modern, incompetent politicians who brought Russia to a war that could have easily been prevented in 2014.
What guarantees did Lavrov intend to give?
I would laugh from NATO's side and say in response: "Okay, Mr. Lavrof, we are recording the situation along the current front line in Ukraine and you are not moving another kilometer towards NATO countries!"

[Serik Bur]

Quote: Smoker

It looks like the economy is starting to sag.

Please explain more specifically in which country you are actively involved in the economy.

[Fisher]

To me, this is an incomprehensible proposal. Firstly, why does NATO need these guarantees? Secondly, if they accept these guarantees, will they stop helping Ukraine? I doubt it. And thirdly, what will we get? Not NATO expansion to the east? That's three countries left. Ukraine, as soon as we sign a peace (truce), will immediately be there, Moldova, probably, too. Who would go against the will of the people? Where will Belarus go after Lukashenko? Stalin solved the problem. He created a security belt, a powerful country with a powerful army and a bomb. And I suppose no one there doubted that the bomb would land without any hesitation or regret. Those were the guarantees. They lived on them for almost half a century.

[Tima62]

Quote from Fisher

Ukraine, as soon as we sign a peace (truce), will be there, and Moldova, too, probably. Who would go against the will of the people? Where Belarus will go after Lukashenko is a big question.

Where will Russia go after Putin? Is that a minor question? Or do you think the current grandfather is eternal? After Stalin, Khrushchev; after Andropov, Gorbachev. Perhaps we need to define our policies so that former friends don't become enemies?

[faterdom]

Is this already a "stunning answer", or is it still only discouraging?

[Limrak]

I'm so fed up with their whining and fawning over the US and Europe... What's more, they're willing to give any guarantees they can demand from Russia... and then they'll start attacking and killing us a little... all the while slapping this guarantee in our faces that you yourselves promised not to attack, so just tolerate it... It's surreal. When will this end... Everywhere and everywhere, as if under a spell, the entire top leadership... well, except Anatolyevich, keeps talking about trade... friendship and compliance with the US... What's going on?

[Don Analyst]

Leonid Ilyich had had his fill of war and didn't want war. He negotiated détente and disarmament with the United States. The result was the end of Leonid Ilyich's homeland: the collapse of the USSR, conflicts along its perimeter, and war with Ukraine.
And how does this detente and disarmament look from the West? It looks like a lack of WILL to fight, it looks like a lack of WILL to Victory!

[Word]

Deeply concerned, I temporarily forgot what it's like when a rabid dog bites people and what they do to it or are too embarrassed to say. We didn't go to them.

[Esaul]

It's high time to declare NATO an aggressor and, as part of self-defense, make a show of destroying some military base in Europe. If they don't understand, then continue the destruction with tactical nuclear weapons. If they still don't understand and want to retaliate, then use strategic nuclear forces instead of just whining.

[opuonmed]

We do not threaten, but we see how the iron at our doors is ringing ever louder.

Well, they haven't changed their target against Russia! They're pulling my leg, like in Minsk 2: "We want peace," but they're actually preparing for war!

[Jacques sekavar]

"Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries"

Russia is losing one position after another.

[isv000]

Quote: Jacques Sekavar

"Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries"

Russia is losing one position after another.

1916...................................................................

[isv000]

Lavrov: Russia is ready to provide guarantees of non-aggression against NATO countries

No! We can't go to that! And we simply shouldn't! Bourgeois people should wear freshly washed underwear every day!

[Simargl]

Non-aggression pact?!
I've heard about this somewhere before!

[Alex66]

The only way to prevent the coming global war is to destroy those who advocate it. And these aren't presidents and governments, although they need to be eliminated. They're a pack of insatiable bourgeois who, with their greed, have brought the world into crisis but refuse to spend a cent for the good of the people. The only hope is Kim Jong-un; only he can save the planet if he, too, is out of control.

[Obolensky]

Why should Russia give anyone any guarantees? For what purpose? I can't see any of our adversaries offering any guarantees, even verbally, let alone on paper or with an official seal.