Will Beijing confront Washington?

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Will Beijing confront Washington?

On October 30, 2025, a meeting between US President D. Trump and Chinese President and General Secretary of the Communist Party of China Xi Jinping is scheduled to take place in South Korea.

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The modern economic and social crisis of capitalism, developing before our eyes, is connected, on the one hand, with the colossal overproduction of goods and the excess of services, and on the other hand, with the serious level of decline in production as such in developed countries.



Amidst a critical overproduction of industrial output globally, the share of real production in GDP is simultaneously declining in countries that were former leaders and drivers of industry, including the United States. This situation is exacerbated by the galloping growth of pyramid schemes, represented by the growth of assets in sectors completely unrelated to real production: cryptocurrency, social media stocks, and virtual entertainment and gratification industries, among others.

While previously, during the development of these economies, the bulk of the workforce was involved in production, it is now concentrated in the non-production sector. The bulk of those engaged in social production produce nothing and contribute nothing to the growth of production and productivity in the real sector of the economy: from civil service to all kinds of services. Furthermore, they burden the real sector with the phantom "production of meaningless meanings."

Judging by the political struggle we've witnessed in the United States over the past ten years, a section of the American elite, the leader of the capitalist world, clearly understands that the very existence of the capitalist system is at stake. "Globalist" network pyramids and transnational corporations are hastening its collapse by sawing off the branch they're sitting on. Without restoring productive cooperation in industry (from nails to Oracles) and eliminating the imbalance in the economy—from the service sector, including government services, to the real economy with the latest technologies—the collapse of the current system, reminiscent of the 1929 disaster, is inevitable.

While China, due to the “globalist policies” of leading Western countries, turned out to be the main beneficiary.

What about the "world factory"?


It wasn't any particular peculiarities of economic management in China that led to its emergence as the world's leading industrial power, but a confluence of crucial circumstances: cheap labor, which for 45 years ensured and, even after rising prices, continues to ensure low production costs for global transnational corporations; the collapse of the USSR and cheap raw materials for Chinese industry; and sales markets, primarily the US and Western Europe.

Initially, China's leadership was able to maintain a system open to foreign capital and direct investment (Apple – $275 billion, Volkswagen has been establishing factories in China since 1978, with direct investment reaching $2,4 billion in 2024, etc.). Using an "open door" policy, they created separate regions for industrial growth, and later expanded this system across the country. They obliged manufacturers to focus their sales as much as possible outside China. They supported, adjusted, and guided this development without detailed intervention, as was the case with efforts to equalize economic opportunities across provinces. Simultaneously, they harshly and systematically punished government officials and police who attempted to use their power against businesses.

On this basis, planning for the development of industries that are strategic for the Republic of China, such as electric vehicles or rare earth metals, is also taking place.

But, of course, it would be a mistake to reduce everything, as some would-be political scientists do, to the planned leadership of the communists. Personally, it seemed to me that in China the principle of "allowing things to happen" was often applied where in our country "just in case something happens." I remember, during the period of the emergence drones Here, they immediately banned their flights here and there, but in Shenzhen, in the central park, I saw how many young people spent all day long endlessly testing drones, recording the results, and no one seemed bothered by it.

In the current environment, several factors significantly influence China's international economic situation. This largely explains its "pacifist" political nature.

Firstly, 35% of the country's economy is oriented towards the foreign market.

Secondly, China has excess production capacity, which simply has nowhere to go. This is why, starting in 2019, a strict focus on developing the domestic market was adopted, but this, in part due to COVID-4, has not produced the desired results. The Fourth Plenum of the 20th CPC prioritized domestic market development. The leadership of the Republic of China is acutely aware of these threats:

During the 15th Five-Year Plan period [2026–2030], China's development will face profound and complex changes. China is entering a period of development in which strategic opportunities, risks, and challenges coexist, and uncertain and difficult-to-predict factors are increasing.

Under these conditions, China is forced to make concessions to the world's only superpower today, with a host of real allies and bases around the world, possessing a stagnant, but still number one, consumer market.

The purge of the PLA, which included commanders and political commissars of all branches of the armed forces except the Air Force, and all but one department heads of the Central Military Commission, is linked to this situation.

Perhaps their overly hawkish position in conditions far from favorable for a “battle for Taiwan” was the reason for this.

Over the past forty years, the CPC and the PRC, especially after the "first socialist war" with Vietnam, have demonstrated a flexible foreign policy. Therefore, the Taiwan issue was put on hold in the hope of a Hong Kong-style solution.

Presumably, this is what will be observed at the meeting in South Korea, especially since the general outlines of the agreement have already been agreed upon to the benefit of the United States.

The question remains whether the US will be able to restore or return at least some of its manufacturing to the country. This is despite the fact that, unlike in the former Soviet Union, many industries exist and are growing in America, and such severe deindustrialization has not occurred there.

What's next?


Currently, the US and China have no fundamental disagreements. Globalists would like China to remain a factory for no-name products manufactured under American brands, but that will no longer be the case.

As for the issue of rare earth metals and soybean supplies, Trump will most likely close the topic; an agreement already exists, and China, in order to sell everything else, will supply them and buy American soybeans: business is business.

For China, which lacks a reliable rear due to the still low purchasing power of its own population, getting involved in economic wars makes no sense.

On other forms of confrontation with the overwhelming military advantage of the United States in conventional weapons and its dominance fleet There's no need to even mention the most important communications routes for China's trade. That's a given.

There have been, are, and will be tensions between the US and China: human rights, technology theft, but…

As long as the US and China are not competing for the same markets or sources of raw materials, they do not have any particular international or trade conflicts.

The current disagreements would not have arisen if not for pressure from the American Make America Great Again party, led by Trump.
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  1. +1
    30 October 2025 04: 28
    If earlier, during the period of development of these economies, the bulk of the workforce was involved in production, now it is concentrated in the non-production sphere.

    The bulk of people involved in social production do not produce anything and do not contribute to the growth of production and productivity in the real sector of the economy: from the civil service to all kinds of services.

    And it won't, because in the coming era of cyberism, there's no place for the proletariat. China has long understood this and is making the transition from capitalism to cyberism.
    part of the American elite, the country that is the leader of the capitalist world, clearly understands that we are talking about the existence of the capitalist system itself

    Because they don't understand that capitalism is dying and the problem with the US is that its decrepit elite continues to cling to the past, because it was so wonderful there...
    The collapse of the current system in the style of the 1929 disaster is inevitable

    The collapse of capitalism is inevitable, but there will be no catastrophe.
    cheap labor, which for 45 years has ensured and, even after becoming more expensive, continues to ensure low costs for global TNCs

    This "cheap labor" has been nonexistent for about ten years now. The low cost of Chinese goods is due to robotic production and the low cost of electricity: $0.149 per kWh in the US versus $0.112 per kWh for businesses in China.
    On this basis, planning for the development of industries that are strategic for the Republic of China, such as electric vehicles, is also taking place.

    Subsidies for electric transport were cancelled for the 15th five-year period.
    This largely explains his “pacifist” character in political terms.

    Chinese pacifism is a screen behind which the active actions of Iran, Russia, Pakistan and the DPRK are taking place.
    Under these conditions, China is forced to make concessions to the world's only superpower today, with a host of real allies and bases around the world, possessing a stagnant, but still number one, consumer market.

    Where does this even come from? Until now, China has made no concessions, which has only strengthened its position on the international stage. The rapprochement between India and China (which came as a shock to many) is a result of this very policy.
    The purge in the ranks of the PLA is connected with this situation.

    This is the author's personal opinion, presented as fact. What really happened there and why Xi needs his 1937 remains unclear.
    The question remains whether the US will be able to restore or return at least some of its production to the country.

    It won't help. The US was already losing, and Trump's recklessness (I'd use stronger language, but the censor is watching) has only accelerated the process.
    1. 0
      30 October 2025 06: 50
      Hole puncher
      Today, 04: 28
      It won't help. The US was already losing, and Trump's recklessness (I'd use stronger language, but the censor is watching) has only accelerated the process.

      hi Let's be honest, in less than 50 years, mattress makers have missed the growth of their main competitor.
      One of the reasons for the imbalance of opportunities in recent years among penguins is the dependent position of penguin capitalists in the economy and industry, when about 80% of the GDP of the economy is occupied by the non-production sector: healthcare, education, banking services, etc., about 18-19% is the industrial sector and just over 1% is agriculture.
      Under the current composition of the CPC leadership, Beijing will not be the first to initiate confrontation with Washington, but will only respond to challenges using its economic strengths and good relations with most countries of the world.
      1. 0
        30 October 2025 07: 27
        Quote: ZovSailor
        In less than 50 years, mattress makers have missed the growth of their main competitor

        Not entirely true. They're stuck in the past, while China is moving toward the future. That is, if the US were the first to begin the transition to a new socio-economic system, China would be playing catch-up because it wouldn't have the time.
        Under the current composition of the CPC leadership, Beijing will not be the first to initiate confrontation with Washington, but will only respond to challenges

        You're wrong. That's all they do, and Washington's current response is an attempt to blunt Beijing's attacks.
        1. +1
          30 October 2025 09: 23
          They are stuck in the past while China is moving into the future.

          Or they've gone far ahead, down a path no one else is following. More than 70% of US GDP comes from services, finance, and intellectual property. Yet, they've maintained all significant industrial capacity in more or less satisfactory condition. Look at the top 100 most valuable companies in the world; the US leads undisputedly. Perhaps if the entire world suddenly abandoned the internet and PCs and began paying exclusively with cash, they would decline, but that's unrealistic. American consumption levels are currently at an unattainable level, as is the level of development of the "non-manufacturing" economy. And because of their enormous foreign debt (which Americans themselves don't care about), a collapse of their economy is unprofitable for anyone. It would be comparable to the apocalypse, making 2008 seem like a piece of cake.
          1. 0
            5 November 2025 13: 31
            This is a path to the abyss. And there have been precedents. For example, Spain after the "conquest" of the New World. Colossal military power and financial resources... how did this end for Spain?
            American companies are vastly overvalued and can collapse in an instant. What happened to the once-great Yahoo?
            The Yankees are lagging behind in some key technology areas. Where are the American televisions? They simply don't exist. The vaunted Apple smartphones are manufactured outside the US, and a portion of the profits from their sales never makes it to the US. Most American cars are manufactured by non-Americans. Consumption in the US has long been stagnant, and 30 million or even 40 million people live on food stamps. Those who could be considered "middle class" in China outnumber the entire US population.
            There won't be a sharp decline. The American economy will gradually deteriorate; this process is already underway. The US share of global GDP is falling (even though official data is inflated and doesn't paint a true picture), as is the dollar's share of the global financial system. Not long ago, the dollar accounted for 70% of global financial transactions; now it's less than 50%.
      2. +2
        30 October 2025 09: 11
        Let's be honest, in less than 50 years, mattress makers have missed the growth of their main competitor.

        More precisely, they sponsored it. And this was under the heavy influence of business; capitalists sought warmer conditions; it's an innate trait. Only China, through brazen theft, was simultaneously building its own independent production. Until Chinese production captured the market, no one cared. Profits outweighed everything.
      3. 0
        30 October 2025 11: 16
        The title of the article sounds interesting))) I think China has been doing this for the last 15 years)))
        1. 0
          30 October 2025 11: 55
          TermNachTer
          Today, 11: 16
          The title of the article sounds interesting))) I think China has been doing this for the last 15 years)))

          hi The author was modest in order not to be suspected of plagiarism with the title - Bolivar Cannot Carry Two.
          1. -1
            30 October 2025 12: 26
            Well, it's a classic of Soviet cinema))) even if you don't have the brains to come up with something like this, it's not a sin to use it.
            1. 0
              30 October 2025 18: 47
              TermNachTer
              Today, 12: 26
              Well, it's a classic of Soviet cinema))) even if you don't have the brains to come up with something like this, it's not a sin to use it.

              hi The question is much deeper and broader, as it touches upon the essence of capitalism, which the famous writer O. Henry (William Sydney Porter) fought against in satirical and humorous form through his novellas and stories.
              1. -1
                30 October 2025 19: 04
                Unfortunately, he didn't achieve much success. The United States still exists and remains a role model.
                1. 0
                  5 November 2025 13: 34
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  Unfortunately, he didn't achieve much success. The United States still exists and remains a role model.


                  And who is trying to imitate them, and how? Could it be Ukraine? laughing
        2. +1
          30 October 2025 13: 20
          The title of the article sounds interesting))) in my opinion, for the last 15 years

          So, developing one’s own economy with the support of Western capital is a confrontation?
          And where have the Chinese done anything contrary to US interests over the past 15 years?
          Did the US push through in trade or political negotiations?
          1. +1
            30 October 2025 13: 35
            Developing our own economy with the support of Western capital happened much earlier, in the last century. But by the 00s, the West, and especially the US, realized what a monster they had nurtured and were now trying to contain it. It's too late to drink Borjomi. Serious issues can't be resolved in an hour and a half, so no one exerted any pressure on anyone else—everyone remained in their current position. And there were no particular expectations for any significant progress. China is pressuring us with its economy, catching up scientifically, and once it catches up, the US will have only one option: war. Or rather, a little earlier, before it even caught up.
            1. -2
              30 October 2025 14: 06
              And already in the 00s, the West, and especially the US, realized what a monster they had nurtured to their own detriment and were now trying to contain it, but it was too late to drink Borjomi)))

              It's always interesting,
              Where does this come from?
              In what works or studies is it written,
              Have the Americans or the Chinese been talking about this since the 00s?
              Where do such fantasies come from?
              1. -2
                30 October 2025 14: 40
                They are taken from statistics - export and import, there are other parameters.
      4. -1
        30 October 2025 14: 26
        The US is fed up with China. Just look at Xin's face. The Chinese are great, they've fooled the US. Investments, technology. And now China can't be removed or caught up.
    2. 0
      1 November 2025 20: 46
      China made concessions, concluded and extended trade truces. The TikTok deal was a boon for the Americans. Even when a new round of the trade war began, the US still accepted the truce on its own terms, with US tariffs being higher than China's.

      If China needed to give in to Iran, now the question is with Venezuela. China doesn't want to get involved in an open confrontation. Its main goal is to disperse US capabilities across the globe. Are they losing resources in Ukraine? Let them continue to lose them. The squabbles in Iran? Let them. The Jews can't survive without US help; the US will still waste resources. Venezuela? Let them. The main thing is that Maduro can at least hold out for a few months and distract the already thinly concentrated US forces.
  2. -1
    30 October 2025 04: 38
    Will Beijing confront Washington?

    If Comrade Xi has retained his influence in the party and the purge of the military is his initiative, then the so-called "confrontation" will continue. If the aforementioned events are the result of the work of his opposition, the "Westerners" (these are staunch supporters of "Uncle Deng"), then Xi will make concessions to the US in order to retain power.
    1. +1
      30 October 2025 04: 58
      Quote: Puncher
      then Xi will make concessions to the US in order to retain power.

      What's the point of guessing? There's only a little bit left, and then we'll see...
      1. -1
        30 October 2025 05: 04
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        What's the point of guessing? There's only a little bit left, and then we'll see...

        A lot will depend on this, how can one not worry?
        1. +1
          30 October 2025 05: 06
          Quote: Puncher
          How can one not worry here?

          Our excitement doesn't matter...
          1. 0
            30 October 2025 05: 09
            Quote from Uncle Lee
            Our excitement doesn't matter...

            Much is beyond our control, yet we still choose this forum for discussion. There have been so many articles here about improving Russia, yet everyone understands that these are merely the author's whims and have no bearing on the future.
            1. +3
              30 October 2025 05: 13
              Quote: Puncher
              How many articles have there been about improving Russia?

              We live in Russia, we worry about it and make our proposals... It's a pity that no one takes them into account... And what do we have to do with global problems? hi
              1. 0
                30 October 2025 06: 09
                Quote from Uncle Lee
                We live in Russia, we worry about it, and we make our proposals...


                When talking about some kind of decisive rapprochement (for what purpose) between China and the United States, we must remember that Xi has become convinced of the futility and meaninglessness of American show-offs... In the world of politics, sooner or later, politician-clowns fade into the background...
    2. -1
      30 October 2025 09: 30
      Xi himself is, to some extent, a supporter of "Uncle Deng." He attracted enormous foreign investment while still governor, and continued to do so as chairman. He preaches a "MADE IN CHINESE" strategy, even building a consumer society similar to the American one. Little remains of the precepts of Lenin and Marx.
    3. -1
      30 October 2025 11: 18
      Are there any signs that Xi might be pushed out of power? I think the list from the last communist gathering showed that Xi is taking the purge of "Komsomol members" very seriously.
      1. 0
        30 October 2025 17: 35
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Are there any signs that Xi may be removed from power?

        Rumors circulated about purges in the military. But it appears Xi has only strengthened his position, having completely usurped power. At the very least, there's no visible influence from the old party, which follows Deng Xiaoping's legacy.
    4. 0
      1 November 2025 20: 48
      Xi himself is a follower of Uncle Deng. Uncle Deng went to CIA headquarters to bow and sign an agreement to open a US base in China to spy on the USSR.
  3. -2
    30 October 2025 05: 01
    Much will depend on Trump, or rather, on his behavior. But I think even if there are disagreements, they will try not to highlight them. China will do everything possible to ensure the negotiations do not reach a dead end. How that turns out remains to be seen.
    1. -5
      30 October 2025 05: 07
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Much will depend on Trump. Or rather, on his behavior.

      Nothing depends on Trump. He can even dance like a drunken Yeltsin the other day, but the final word is Xi's.
  4. 0
    30 October 2025 05: 57
    Will Beijing confront Washington?

    Before answering this question, it is necessary to answer another:
    "To what degree of rapprochement will relations between Moscow and Washington reach, and how far will Russia bend to the US?"
    All we hear from the bourgeois media is that life in our country depends not on us, but on how wide the crazy Trump opens his arms...
    And our main allies demand better treatment...
    1. +2
      30 October 2025 07: 19
      Quote: ROSS 42
      How far can Russia bend to the US?

      As much as Beijing allows. Make no mistake, Russia is completely dependent on China today.
      1. +2
        30 October 2025 11: 03
        Quote: Puncher
        Don't have any illusions; Russia is completely dependent on China today.

        I can't understand users like you—what makes you think I'm delusional? Quite the contrary, I'm worried that the loving and forgiving leaders are once again trying to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire...
        stop There is no need to dig a tunnel between Russia and China...
  5. +1
    30 October 2025 07: 59
    China has already shown everyone time and again that it's for everything good and against everything bad. It's a smiling, dumb idiot who's both ours and yours, but ultimately no one's. You have to be very careful when dealing with it, and it won't engage in any confrontations, especially with the States. It'll just bark at Taiwan, planes will fly in, and that's it. They're living quite comfortably, so why should they disturb their peace?
  6. +1
    30 October 2025 08: 15
    Chinese President Xi Jinping said here on Thursday that China's development and resurgence go hand in hand with President Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" vision for the United States.

    Xinhua
  7. +1
    30 October 2025 08: 58
    Will Beijing confront Washington?

    Eduard, good morning! Why would Beijing confront Washington?
    There are more minuses than pluses... China has not yet caught up with the United States in its development. The point is that they understand this perfectly well in China.
    1. +2
      30 October 2025 09: 56
      Good morning, Alexey, this is what Xinhua is reporting.
      Minor jabs continue, but overall, the Chinese leadership is extremely pragmatic. Here are the words of the Chinese President himself:
      "You and I stand at the helm of China-US relations," he addressed Donald Trump. "In the face of winds, waves, and challenges, we must steer the right course, navigate a difficult terrain, and ensure the giant ship of China-US relations moves confidently forward."
  8. -1
    30 October 2025 09: 31
    The entire article could have fit into a single appendix. Trump is simply flying to a meeting with his Chinese comrade to discuss economic concessions between the two countries and the possibility of using Comrade Xi to put pressure on Putin. What happens there won't affect us at all.
  9. 0
    30 October 2025 09: 36
    Will Beijing confront Washington?

    Confrontation for what? And most importantly, for what purpose? Answering these questions leads to the most conscious question. And for... why?
  10. +1
    30 October 2025 09: 41
    The economic potential of the PRC is already greater than that of the USA and is growing at a rate 5% higher than that of the USA.
    A trade surplus with the US allows the US to earn dollars and invest them in expanding its sphere of influence in South America, Africa, Asia, the EU, and various international projects like ASEAN, SCO, BRICS, and the Silk Road. It also allows the renminbi to play a larger role in international transactions, thereby reducing US influence. I don't think the US likes this. The US openly states that China is its number one enemy. The question is whether the US will be able to consolidate the full political, economic, and military potential of its allies—the EU, NATO, Japan, South Korea, AUCUS, and the QUAD—to counter China. Theoretically, it's possible, but practically, unlikely.
  11. +1
    30 October 2025 13: 13
    For China, which lacks a reliable rear due to the still low purchasing power of its own population, getting involved in economic wars makes no sense.

    The US and other countries are somehow pushing tech companies out of China! And China itself is lagging behind the tech leaders! By the time the US reaches 3-2-1 nm, China will only reach 7 nm, and that's not guaranteed. And tariffs are driving capital out of China, with fewer and fewer people investing in China! Unless China caves in to the US, that is. And even then, the train has picked up speed, and it won't stop soon enough for China!
    1. 0
      5 November 2025 13: 13
      China doesn't care; it will survive. China can now invest in anyone it wants; it's better financed than the US.
  12. +1
    30 October 2025 14: 33
    For China, which lacks a reliable rear due to the still low purchasing power of its own population, getting involved in economic wars makes no sense.
    That's not even the point. Xi Jinping once expressed the idea that China would be the last country to use force in any conflict. Given China's potential (human, industrial, and scientific), this country can afford to react calmly to any irritants. Its capabilities for flanking maneuvers are an order of magnitude greater than those of other countries. That says it all.
    No matter what Trump says in public, the only thing he can hope for is to try to reach an agreement on a balance of interests and nothing more.
  13. 0
    30 October 2025 19: 14
    China won't go for confrontation. It doesn't need it. But the US desperately needs one. Because it can't afford any competition; China would eat them up if it did. So Xi will be careful, calm, and polite.
  14. 0
    30 October 2025 21: 25
    "Will Beijing confront Washington?"

    Will Washington confront Beijing?
    Both options are possible.

    And what pieces will the EU, Russia, BRICS, and ASEAN play in this chess game?
  15. 0
    5 November 2025 13: 11
    Quote: Mikhail3
    China will not go into confrontation.


    China is already in a state of confrontation with the United States. A military conflict may not occur, but anything else is more than likely.
  16. 0
    5 November 2025 13: 20
    Quote: Slavutich
    And where have the Chinese done anything contrary to US interests over the past 15 years?


    They've sucked capital and investment out of the US. They've filled American supermarket shelves with their own consumer goods, displacing local small and medium-sized businesses in manufacturing. It's thanks to China that the US has such a huge foreign debt and trade deficit. In competition, the Yankees are increasingly losing to the Chinese. In short, their Chinese comrades have done everything they can to deflate the real sector of the American economy.
    "Make America Great Again!" So, the United States isn't all that great these days? And why?
  17. 0
    5 November 2025 13: 37
    Quote: Puncher
    And there won’t be, because in the coming era of cyberism there is no place for the proletarian.


    There are and will remain. The number of industrial workers in China is only growing. There is no threat of "cyberism"; workers have always been, are, and will always be.