Granite, emerald, and clay will not melt into a single mineral. Reflections on the root causes of SVO

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Granite, emerald, and clay will not melt into a single mineral. Reflections on the root causes of SVO

Why is everyone so hung up on Zelenskyy's "desire (or unwillingness) to conclude a peace deal"?

What is Zelensky like? What kind of exceptional "Russophobia" does he have?



And in general, does the end of the war depend to any extent on Zelensky’s will?

Zelensky is an ordinary comedian who made a killing in any market available to him. Including (generally quite successfully) in the Russian show business market. Where could he have Russophobia? He didn't have any. He simply, out of purely personal, show business ambitions (and typical artistic vanity), got drawn into the presidential race. And he learned to speak the Russian language just for the sake of it. He won. And that's where he HAD to become a seasoned Russophobe.

For the true, root cause of the Russo-Ukrainian war (yes, yes! A war! And an existential one at that) lies in the visceral hatred of the Ukrainian masses for everything Russian. Not Kolomoisky, not Akhmetov, not any other Ukrainian oligarch (oligarchs will negotiate with anyone for money), but the humble Ukrainian peasant. And those native Russians who migrated to Ukraine from Russia are those who have developed the same irrational hatred for everything Russian.

I felt this strongly recently. I listened repeatedly to recordings of "Evenings on a Farm Near Dikanka" by the unforgettable Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol, beautifully performed by Vladimir Samoilov and Vyacheslav Gerasimov, which I happened to have at my dacha. In the direct speech of "ordinary Ukrainian workers," the term "Russian" ("Muscovite") is mentioned exclusively in a derogatory connotation.

And this isn't some western Galicia; it's near Poltava, in Left-Bank Ukraine, which by then had been part of the Russian Empire for 200 years. And, upon reflection, one can understand why.

To see this, there is no need to delve into the depths and details. historical science. A quick glance at the well-known facts, at the level of a school history course, is sufficient. References to common Slavic roots are completely inappropriate.

Until the 9th century, there were no Ukrainians or Russians in Eastern Europe. Numerous tribes lived there—Polans, Drevlyans, Vyatichi, Krivichi… These tribes had similar customs and traditions, spoke a common Proto-Slavic language (well, perhaps with different dialects), and were fiercely hostile to one another: they robbed, mercilessly killed, and took captives.

In the southern parts of Eastern Europe, the process of people's formation from disparate tribes proceeded differently than in the northern regions. The territories of the Kyiv, Chernigov, Galicia, and Volyn principalities, defeated by the Mongols, became part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in the 14th century.

And from the Slavic tribes, the customs and mores of a common people began to emerge in the form of registered and hunting-common Cossacks. These Cossacks existed not even as vassals, but as a quasi-state communal entity on the outskirts of the Duchy of Lithuania. This is where the name of this region—Ukraine—came from.

And due to their status as a border military class, Ukrainian Cossacks, as part of their overlord's forces, constantly participated in bloody raids on the populations of neighboring states: the Ottoman Empire, the Crimean Khanate, and the Principality of Moscow. And not only did they participate, they lived off these raids.

And as this people's self-awareness developed, it could not help but develop an attitude of hostility, animosity, and contempt toward the targets of these bloody raids, in particular, toward the emerging people of the Moscow Principality. I write this without any ethical, aesthetic, cultural, or any other judgment. It is simply a historical fact.

To summarize, the self-identification of the Ukrainian people developed under conditions where, for centuries, they were part of a FOREIGN state. And not just foreign, but HOSTILE to the Russian state.

Left-bank Ukraine was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (later the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) for 300 years (until the Pereyaslav Rada), Right-bank Ukraine for 400 years (until the partitions of Poland in the 18th century). Western Ukraine was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (later the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austria-Hungary, and Poland) for 600 years (until 1939).

And this was precisely the period of the formation of the people's self-identity. The subsequent redrawing of borders could not change anything in this self-identity. Thus, no matter how many times you put granite, emerald, and clay together, they will not melt into a single mineral; they will remain a mixture of granite, clay, and emerald, although they are all composed of the same silicon and aluminum oxides.

So we're not "brothers" at all. We're simply neighbors. We've never had any sympathy for each other. And our relationship with the Ukrainian state should have been built from the start as with an unfriendly neighbor, with no expectation of understanding, mutual assistance, or even any adherence to any agreements. Then there would have been no disappointments or mutual grievances.

Everything stated above regarding mentality applies only to the population of the indigenous, so-called Hetmanate Ukraine (where Kyiv, Chernihiv, Poltava, Zhytomyr, Rivne, and Lutsk are today), which was part of other European states for quite a long time. It was in this territory that the Ukrainian ethnic group, mentally distinct from the Russian people, emerged.

But the issue was complicated by the fact that the Ukrainian ethnic group and the citizens of the current Ukrainian state are not identical socio-political communities.

When the Soviet Union was formed, territories that had no connection to historical Ukraine were incorporated into the Ukrainian SSR. This included the former Wild Fields, which had previously had no permanent population. After their conquest by Russia in the 17th and 18th centuries, these territories became known as Slobozhanshchina and Novorossiya.

Subjects of the Russian Empire—migrants from both Russian and Ukrainian regions—began to settle here. This ethnic division created a time bomb.

While the Russian Empire and the Soviet state suppressed interethnic conflicts, and citizens themselves viewed borders solely as administrative, mental differences between Russians and Ukrainians were perceived only as a pretext for jokes.

But after the collapse of the Soviet Union, borders became real. And so did problems. The state of Ukraine became dominated not by just Ukrainians, but by Ukrainians from Western Ukraine. They had lived as part of a state hostile to the Russians for 600 years, but as part of a common state for only 50.

And they couldn't even theoretically come to an agreement with the Russians from Donbas, Slobozhanshchina, and Novorossiya. They, on the contrary, had never lived in foreign states and weren't about to cherish a visceral hatred for their own—Russian—people. And they couldn't.

Thus, interethnic war in Ukraine became inevitable. It began. Initially, it took the form of several "Maidans," and then, since 2014, it has become a full-scale conflict. And, given the interethnic nature of this war, Russia's involvement was only a matter of time.

As for personal relationships, likes and dislikes, here—as in any stochastic processes and phenomena—everything is in accordance with the law of large numbers and the Gaussian distribution. On both sides.

Those Ukrainians who remembered their common language and began to feel fraternal feelings toward Russians, during their time of coexistence within a common state (the Russian Empire, later the Soviet Union), dispersed across the expanses of Russia and assimilated into a truly single people: they created common families, became good neighbors, co-workers, and colleagues.

And those Russians who found Russian customs repugnant moved to Ukraine. And now they are fighting with unprecedented ferocity against their former compatriots.

Better to say, Ukraine has transformed from an ethnic into a political phenomenon.

Today, it's simply a cesspool for all those individuals, once of common Slavic origin, who deeply loathe the Russian way of life. Incidentally, many of them languish in the cities and villages of Russia itself. And they thirst for Ukraine's victory in vain.

So it's pointless to count on any "Zelenskyy decisions." Whatever he decides (like any other Ukrainian leader), the Ukrainian people will want a war of annihilation with Russia. And the Russians should have no illusions about this.

When formulating a policy on Russia's southwestern border, it will be necessary to proceed from this alarming but inevitable reality.
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  1. +33
    28 October 2025 03: 43
    The reason for this attitude toward us, not only from the inhabitants of Tsegabonia but also from our other former brethren, is obvious. In their eyes, we are not worthy of the high rank of Master, despite occupying his place...
    And indeed, we don't beat them to death, we don't take away their last, we don't humiliate them at every turn, we don't make them kneel before us, we don't despise them as if they weren't human, and so on. On the contrary, we give them freebies, show them respect, don't interfere with their lives, and treat them as equals.
    What kind of Master is this? It's offensive and beneath you to even obey such a one. Take the Germans, the Poles, the Anglo-Saxons—those are the real Masters, obeying them is sweet and pleasant. But the Russians—no. That's where the real roots of hatred come from.
    1. +9
      28 October 2025 04: 39
      real Masters, it is sweet and pleasant to obey them

      Maybe they really want to become Masters themselves, lords? Not friends, neighbors, comrades, but Masters? Well, some kind of small-town lords, but lords nonetheless? To feel at least some kind of power, significance, and grandeur? They've been trained to do this for 600 years, and they continue to do so today. request
      1. +20
        28 October 2025 05: 09
        Quote: Chifka
        Do they themselves really want to become Masters, lords?

        A slave does not dream of freedom, but wants to become a slave owner....
        1. 0
          30 October 2025 04: 31
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Quote: Chifka
          Do they themselves really want to become Masters, lords?

          A slave does not dream of freedom, but wants to become a slave owner....

          It's just that a slave dreams that there is no master!
          1. +1
            30 October 2025 15: 12
            The most cruel to the slaves was the former slave whom the owner placed in charge of the other slaves
      2. +5
        28 October 2025 05: 55
        Of course I want to. And I always have. And yet, I don't understand that a hereditary slave won't make even a small farmer, no matter what...
        And this is yet another reason for hatred towards us – because we stubbornly refuse to be a true Master. It's not our style to oppress people for profit and pleasure. It's just the way the cards fall that we are forced to take his place. And this is incomprehensible and absurd from a slave's point of view. If you don't want to be one yourself, then why are you stopping others? And that's the sad thing: we really don't want to have a Master over us either! So we suffer. And we torment the slaves needlessly with our vacillations.

        What other kind of equality? The traditional master-slave system simply doesn't provide for such. Even if a slave manages to become a master, there will always be a Master above them. And then there are the damned communists, you know, with their universal brotherhood and equality. How can you forgive this? An attempt to nip in the bud the age-old dream of becoming masters, albeit petty ones, from slaves?
        1. +1
          29 October 2025 22: 52
          Quote: paul3390
          that a hereditary slave won't even become a small owner, no matter what...

          It's not about the master, but about the superior races: "Ukraine is Europe!" Their slogan!!! And why not Russia? Because we're a horde and a Soviet Union, dependent on Western technology and, in general, looking up to the West in many matters, even at the everyday level! Therefore, by considering themselves Europeans, Ukrainian Nazis consider themselves superior beings—Nazism in its purest form! Which Europe shares and supports, while the Europeans themselves think they have a garden there, surrounded by savages!
          Europe has been turned into a garden by plundering "savages," which hasn't been a sin since the Crusades! Ukrainian Nazis propose robbing Russians both in Ukraine and in Russia itself, hence the fervent support for Europe. They succeeded with the USSR, after all.
    2. +5
      28 October 2025 09: 31
      Rzhu nimagu))) author The articles are global thoughts, definitely. I'll let you in on a terrible secret: before 2014, many Ukrainians, including those from Western countries, came to Russia to work, and their innate Russophobia somehow didn't manifest itself. Regarding Kolomoisky—who has nothing to do with it at all. Kolomoisky's personal bodyguard (I think it goes without saying that a personal bodyguard is practically a family member) is Maksym Donetsk. In 2019, he became the greenhorn's personal bodyguard and his chief of security. He still holds the same position. They are sometimes confused—there are certain similarities. This is just a quick aside, without delving into the aforementioned nonsense.
      1. +4
        28 October 2025 11: 28
        It really showed up.
        The year is 2015. Two western Ukrainians are building a house for a neighbor and are living on my property, in a trailer.
        These two weirdos told my wife that they would only start feeding her after I finished building the house (they really thought we had nothing to eat!), taught us Ukrainian (well, what can you do, it’s the language of the people!), and told us how they would rule when their Volyn returned to Poland.
        It was like a looking glass, we are still amazed when we remember them.
        1. +8
          28 October 2025 11: 43
          So, based on communication with two imbeciles, you draw conclusions about all 42 million people living in Ukraine?
          1. +6
            28 October 2025 11: 48
            Well, why only two?
            I served my mandatory military service in the Soviet Army, and there were two of every kind there. And I have plenty of other experience, including some not-so-close relatives.
            The conclusion is this: Ukrainians are crooks, you can’t do business with them, they will cheat you at the first opportunity.
            1. +3
              28 October 2025 12: 16
              I also served in the Soviet Army. I encountered all sorts of people, not just Ukrainians. And I have relatives there too, in Nikolaev, Kherson – normal people, even now.
              1. -8
                28 October 2025 14: 11
                Well, you're probably Ukrainian, so Ukrainian is fine with you! But I'm Russian, and Ukrainian is a turnoff for me...
                1. +2
                  28 October 2025 14: 33
                  So, all Ukrainians are bad? Including those who fight against Banderland?
                  1. -7
                    28 October 2025 15: 00
                    Ukrainians aren't good or bad; they're aliens. If a Ukrainian fights the Banderites, they're fighting for their Ukraine! For a Ukraine without the Banderites. What does Russia have to do with it? Moreover, Russia doesn't really care about Ukraine; they should have honored the Friendship Treaty and lived peacefully.
                    1. 0
                      28 October 2025 15: 18
                      And are the Russians who are fighting (or used to fight) against Russia good, too? After all, they are fighting (or fought) for their Russia.
                      1. -5
                        28 October 2025 16: 02
                        They are not Russians, they are Russian-speaking Ukrainians. Traitors and renegades.
                        I don’t know if Ukrainians consider them their own, they are strangers to us.
                      2. +3
                        28 October 2025 16: 27
                        What do Russian-speaking Ukrainians mean? They have Russian passports. Russian-speaking Ukrainians are those who live in Ukraine, are citizens of Ukraine, and simply prefer to speak Russian.
                      3. 0
                        28 October 2025 17: 26
                        They hit not on the passport, but in the face
                      4. +3
                        29 October 2025 07: 08
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        They have Russian passports.

                        Got a passport and immediately became Russian?))
                      5. +1
                        29 October 2025 10: 18
                        Judging by what is written on the Internet, they have had their passports for a long time, and many were born in Russia.
                      6. +1
                        1 November 2025 07: 28
                        If a cat is born in a stable? She doesn't become a horse!
                      7. 0
                        1 November 2025 09: 14
                        If a person was born in Russia, to a Russian father and mother - who is he?
                  2. 0
                    29 October 2025 16: 58
                    Those who fight against Banderland are brothers. The rest are enemies.
                2. +7
                  28 October 2025 16: 36
                  Quote: Vatnik_
                  Well, you're probably Ukrainian, so Ukrainian is fine with you! But I'm Russian, and Ukrainian is a turnoff for me...

                  I recently spoke with a citizen of Tatarstan. He loves Russians so much that it makes his venomous saliva splatter in all directions. That's where Russophobia and love for Russia come from. Sometimes you need to look not in your own image in the mirror, but rather look around you. Look closely. Otherwise, in your sighs about "mortal" enemies living in the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR, you won't see the hidden enemy stabbing you in the back.
                  1. -1
                    28 October 2025 17: 29
                    Tatars are different - I have a Misharin foreman, we've been working together for twenty years.
                    1. +3
                      29 October 2025 07: 11
                      Quote: Vatnik_
                      Tatars are different - I have a Misharin foreman, we've been working together for twenty years.

                      Tatars and I congratulate each other on national holidays and celebrate them together. But sometimes we can't find common ground with our relatives.
      2. +3
        28 October 2025 13: 41
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Until 2014, many Ukrainians, including those from the West, came to Russia to work and their innate Russophobia somehow did not manifest itself

        There was no opportunity?
        1. +1
          28 October 2025 15: 19
          Why? Bandera is good for his words, Russia is crap, and no one was punished back then.
          1. 0
            29 October 2025 17: 01
            Are you sure you didn't punish them? That's why they kept their mouths shut. And now they're talking.
            1. +2
              29 October 2025 17: 11
              I don’t recall anyone being given a real prison sentence or even a fine between 2014 and 2022.
        2. 0
          2 November 2025 22: 47
          Why show it on foreign territory?
      3. +5
        28 October 2025 16: 47
        I spoke with Ukrainians around 2001 and 2014, especially from the eastern regions of Ukraine. There's a huge difference. In the early 2000s, I noticed a hint of pride and hard work laced with a sense of "motherhood." But by 2014, everyone was already feeling indebted to them. These unfortunate people from Donbass who fled the war were driven out of their villages with pissed-off rags. The same Petrenki, Konik, and others, former Zaporizhian Cossacks and Black Sea Fleet Cossacks. They were driven out, supposedly their former compatriots.
        1. +2
          28 October 2025 17: 03
          It's strange, my relatives didn't have such pride. On the contrary, they scolded me. It just so happened that both of them (Kherson and Mykolaiv) worked in shipbuilding, which is understandable—half the city worked at the shipyards in both places. They didn't like it, though, because there was very little work left, whereas under the Soviet Union, there was plenty.
          1. +3
            28 October 2025 17: 07
            Let's say we were talking over vodka after work with a crew of day laborers from Kharkov. In Vyazma, at the dairy plant. They worked in the boiler room. I've already written about this. About the hryvnia, the war in the Caucasus, etc. They were really proud of the hryvnia's exchange rate. I asked them, "What are you doing here in Smolensk?"
            1. 0
              28 October 2025 19: 59
              Moonlighters are a peculiar bunch. And here are just ordinary factory workers, though they can't complain. Free apartments, the entire Korabel microdistrict is made up of KhSPO, SRZ, and Pallada.
              Free trips to the factory recreation center in Zhelezny Port, a free kindergarten with a 24-hour group for those whose parents worked long hours. A dacha cooperative on Bolshoi Potemkinsky Island, a garage cooperative called "Korabel." They remembered the Soviet Union as a fairy tale; they didn't give a damn about independence.
        2. +3
          29 October 2025 07: 16
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          And in 2014, it was already the case that everyone owed them something. To the unfortunate people from Donbass who fled the war.

          Yes. The same thing happened in Perm during the first wave of refugees from Donbas. They believed that all the locals owed them an unpayable debt. It even got violent. After that, the entire staff of the sanatorium where the refugees were housed (100%) was replaced.
          But now, I'm personally convinced, the most Russian people are growing up in Donbas. They are the children of war.
      4. +2
        29 October 2025 07: 06
        Quote: TermNachTER
        I can't stop laughing))) the author of this article is a global thinker, definitely))) I'll reveal a terrible secret: before 2014, many Ukrainians, including those from the West, came to Russia to work and their innate Russophobia somehow didn't manifest itself.

        Are you from another world, or deaf and blind?
      5. +5
        29 October 2025 16: 56
        It manifested itself. In the mid-80s, I, a lieutenant, joined the party. I was walking through the position and my Western sergeant asked:
        - Comrade Lieutenant, are you joining the party?
        - Yes.
        - We don't like communists.
        How deep in his skin did it sit that he could blurt out such a thing to his officer?
        1. +2
          29 October 2025 17: 09
          And what consequences did he face after he blurted that out? There was a pretty high competition for admission to the Lviv Political Officers' School, and it was precisely those who strongly disliked the communists.
    3. +2
      28 October 2025 11: 29
      Some points are made correctly. Western Ukraine is indeed a missing piece. As for the rest, it was quite Russian. I traveled almost all of Ukraine for work and interacted with UkrainiansEverything was fine; these were "our" people, raised in the USSR. It's just that since 1985, they've been pushing for independence. "We'll go from the Russians to Europe and become another France." Our mistake was not to launch the Second World War in 2014; then we could have occupied most of Ukraine (except for the western part) and purged the Banderites. And everything was fine. To save the situation now, Ukraine needs an epiphany. And sooner or later, it will come. S. Markov (2023):
      "The majority of Ukraine's population could potentially be pro-Russian because they are Russian. But to achieve this, we need to arm the army, move forward, defeat the Ukrainian army, establish a harsh and effective occupation regime, and heal the people. The people of Ukraine should be treated like members of a totalitarian sect, dragged into it by force. But since they are already members of a totalitarian sect, they now convince themselves that being in this sect is the right thing to do."
      1. -4
        28 October 2025 12: 06
        In order for Ukrainians to become Russians, they must be resettled from Ukraine to Siberia.
        1. +8
          28 October 2025 14: 04
          Quote: Vatnik_
          In order for Ukrainians to become Russians, they must be resettled from Ukraine to Siberia.

          And let Siberia be Ukrainized? After the war, Western Ukrainians were resettled in Crimea and Kharkiv, and they brought their plague there. Western Ukraine should be given to Poland during the partition, with the stipulation that it will be completely Polish lands, with no Ukrainian elements there. So let them Polonize them. For two hundred years, Poland will be sidelined from all geopolitical processes and preoccupied with its internal affairs.
          1. -1
            28 October 2025 14: 16
            Well, you just don’t know the history of the settlement of the Far East.
            Before the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway, the fastest route there was from Odessa, and it was populated mainly by Ukrainians.
            Where are the Ukrainians now? They're gone, everyone's Russian. Only their last names remain.
            And the Ukrainians left in Ukraine remained Ukrainians, the air is probably different.
            1. +3
              28 October 2025 17: 35
              Quote: Vatnik_
              Well, you just don’t know the history of the settlement of the Far East.
              Before the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway, the fastest route there was from Odessa, and it was populated mainly by Ukrainians.

              Odessa is a multinational (or multiethnic, if you can call it that) city. People left for Canada, the Far East, and even China or Argentina.
              1. -4
                28 October 2025 17: 38
                Odessa is a port. The people were from the central regions of Ukraine.
                1. +2
                  28 October 2025 17: 40
                  Quote: Vatnik_
                  Odessa is a port. The people were from the central regions of Ukraine.

                  ?
                  Odessa was populated by people from all provinces of the Russian Empire.
                  1. +1
                    28 October 2025 18: 53
                    Mostly Jews and Little Russians. The rest had a long way to go.
                    The city had a large Jewish diaspora. According to the 1897 census, 124 of Odessa's 404 residents, or 30,5%, listed Yiddish ("Jewish") as their native language.
                    Russians made up about a third.
                2. +1
                  28 October 2025 19: 05
                  "Odessa is a port. The people were from the central regions of Ukraine."

                  It's a pity that my father and uncle have already died, they would have laughed at this joke.
          2. 0
            28 October 2025 17: 05
            In fact, they moved there in quite large numbers to the Far East, the Stolypin settlers.
            1. -1
              28 October 2025 17: 30
              It was forty years later when the railway was built.
        2. 0
          28 October 2025 16: 51
          The Poles have already been resettled. It didn't help.
          1. 0
            28 October 2025 17: 30
            The Poles were nobles. They were sent there into exile.
            1. -1
              28 October 2025 19: 38
              Were all Poles nobles? And in 1939-40 too? Come on, remember the beginning of the film "Four Tankmen and a Dog"?
      2. +10
        28 October 2025 14: 08
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        It was our mistake that we didn't start the SVO in 2014.

        This isn't a mistake, it's weakness and dependence on those who hold the money of our "elite." We had every trump card for victory, but we blew it all in this Crimean gambit, ultimately exposing Russia to both annexation and aggression, having previously very "wisely" recognized the junta and the integrity of Ukraine. At best, this is stupidity and weakness; at worst, a continuation of the "glorious" deeds after the collapse of a great country in 1991. All that remains is to deal with the Soviet strategic nuclear forces under the guise of partners, under the most plausible pretext, and, naturally, in the name of peace and humanism. Russia has already been drained of resources and assets exported, all while puffing up its cheeks and ostentatiously butting heads with the West, with whom our "elite" is heart and soul.
        As for Ukraine, a military victory alone isn't enough, and it's not truly possible under the bourgeoisie. We need people's power and a people's army, we need an idea. When Russia has people's power and a great idea, then the former residents of Ukraine will have something to offer other than bourgeois perks, which are generally more palatable in the West, since the West rules global capitalism, not Russian bad guys in their own hand-picked peripheral capitalism.
        1. -2
          29 October 2025 17: 07
          If we'd started in '14, our banking system would have ground to a halt within a few days. Collapse. Do you think they just implemented the MIR system, with preparations in place? And are you sure our army was even in the same condition in '14 as it was in '22? First of all, in terms of weapons reserves.
          1. +4
            30 October 2025 06: 35
            Quote: Vik_Vik
            If we had started at 14
            So what were they doing before 2014, what were they thinking, and how were they preparing for the Second World War after eight years? Why does the West calculate everything? The Maidan didn't start out of nowhere, and Nazism didn't suddenly surge. In 2014, we were expected. There was the "Russian Spring," referendums in Donbas, we had a legitimate president, Yanukovych, and his prime minister, Azarov. International law was on our side during the coup. We also had something to threaten the West with, we had trump cards, and it's not a given that anyone would have dared to cut Russia off from, say, SWIFT. Incidentally, it was cut off for most leading banks with the start of the Second World War, and the Central Bank, effectively sitting under the IMF (Fed), continues to do so, just as our fat cats were withdrawing assets from Russia, they continue to do so. You're pointing to the wrong problem. The issue with weapons stockpiles is something else entirely. Back then, the Banderites couldn't even muster anything against the group that was amassed at the border in 2014. They were armed with everything from helmets and body armor to tanks and missiles, all while our authorities were chewing on the snot.
            Now, what about this, one thing is that “everything happens for the best”, and “no matter how long a rope twists...”.
    4. +1
      28 October 2025 18: 44
      Quote: paul3390
      What kind of Master is this? It's offensive and beneath you to even obey such a one. Take the Germans, the Poles, the Anglo-Saxons—those are the real Masters, obeying them is sweet and pleasant. But the Russians—no. That's where the real roots of hatred come from.

      Well said, Pavel. Remember Pushkin's "Boris Godunov" - "No, the people feel no mercy: Do good - they will not say thank you; Rob and execute - you will not be worse off."
  2. +22
    28 October 2025 05: 05
    So much for Grandma and St. George's Day... The author of this article is simply a mega-extremist, Strelkov-Kvachkov, etc. are nervously smoking on the sidelines. To so harshly refute Mr. Putin and his "united people," to so annihilate the entire rationale for the SVO—that takes skill. And all based on Evenings on a Farm Near Dikanka... That's the power of art. It's even scary to imagine what will happen when the author gets to Turgenev's "A Hunter's Notebook" and reads there about the differences between the Oryol and Kaluga peasants.
    P.S. Seriously speaking, this article is no different from Maidan propaganda spun by some national memory institute. It's the same logic (or rather, lack thereof), the same pseudo-historical digressions trying to prove that Russians and Ukrainians are inherently hostile and different peoples. It's just the signs are reversed.
    The overall message seems to be that propaganda has reflected on the defeat and final breakaway of that part of historical Russia called Ukraine, and instead of a united people, a Russian world, etc., it is preparing the electorate for endless war, which is reflected in the state of mind of those who write such articles. But the blame for this defeat, of course, lies not with the newly minted "capitalists" on both sides with their brilliant geopolitics, but with the "irrational hostility" of Ukrainians.
    1. IVZ
      0
      28 October 2025 06: 09
      the same pseudo-historical digressions seeking to prove that Russians and Ukrainians are initially hostile and different peoples.
      It is possible that the course of protracted military operations and the resulting negative effects on the economy, politics, and public sentiment will force the Russian authorities to resort to more radical means of warfare, and public opinion has begun to prepare for such a turn of events.
      1. +7
        28 October 2025 06: 23
        and the preparation of public opinion for such a turn of events has begun.
        Why prepare one? A law can be passed for any occasion. When has the government ever cared about public opinion?
        1. IVZ
          +3
          28 October 2025 06: 28
          When did the authorities ever care about public opinion?
          Always. The thing is, the government might not care about it, but it still tries to avoid it as much as possible. No one needs unnecessary problems. Besides, I wasn't talking only or primarily about the Russian electorate.
    2. +5
      28 October 2025 07: 43
      Quote from comment:
      The author of the article is simply a mega-extremist, Strelkov-Kvachkov, etc. are nervously smoking on the sidelines
      I'm from Crimea, I taught students, there were a lot of Ukrainians and I really saw how wakes up They have a self-awareness that they are neither Soviet nor Russian. At first, they asked permission to answer exams in Ukrainian, and later they demanded that lectures be given in the language.
      1. +4
        28 October 2025 07: 57
        Yuri, you should have written down which parts of Ukraine these students were from. If they were from Lemberg, then there are no questions.
        Never before have the locals in Crimea, regardless of nationality, spoken Ukrainian, and they didn't even speak it in Kyiv...
        I don't argue that they had a "Ukrainian upsurge" in the early 90s, and that only lasted for a couple of years. Then everything fell into place. And at that time, we, too, were like, "Stop feeding Moscow," weren't we? And this despite the fact that Moscow, at that time, was the largest industrial center in the USSR (Russia), so Moscow was quite self-sufficient at the time...
      2. -1
        28 October 2025 10: 40
        When were there ever so many Ukrainian-speaking students in Crimea? Crimea has always been Russian-speaking; if you encounter Ukrainian speakers, it means they're vacationers from the West.
      3. +2
        28 October 2025 12: 26
        Quote: Yuri Guliy
        I actually saw how wakes up they have self-awareness

        Long-term propaganda can be "to wake"any self-awareness, even of the descendants of aliens).
        On the topic: if their mentality developed under the conditions of a part of another, host state, then the whole question is who they will accept as that host. If the EU stops providing them with cover and support, they'll defect in a heartbeat.
        1. +1
          28 October 2025 14: 09
          Quote from cpls22
          If their mentality developed under the conditions of a part of another, host state, then the whole question is who they will accept as that host. If the EU stops providing cover and support, they'll defect in a heartbeat.

          Well, who will need these? defectors? He who has defected once will defect again. If only there were somewhere (where the cabbage soup is more savory).
          1. +1
            28 October 2025 14: 50
            Quote: Carmela

            Well, who will need these? defectors?

            There will be a choice: either sell them to the enemy for service, or assimilate them into normal people, citizens of the Russian Federation. In my opinion, we should leave them with a "historical homeland," a landlocked one. Let it absorb all those who value remaining Ukrainian. Perhaps they will then mature into independence, without trying to sell out their neighbor when a more powerful master appears on the horizon.
    3. +2
      28 October 2025 07: 43
      I was going to say something along the same lines, but I ended up in the comments first. Thank you, I couldn't have said it better.
    4. +10
      28 October 2025 08: 43
      The author surprisingly confuses some Russians who didn't want to live by Russian customs and went to the front... And what about those who were assigned to go? It smacks of ordinary chauvinism. Man is a social being. As is society, so is man.
      1. +6
        28 October 2025 12: 07
        There were plenty of people like that who left Russia for Ukraine.
        1. +1
          28 October 2025 12: 45
          When? Recently, a decade? I meant Soviet society. But yes, there are plenty of dissenters.
          1. +2
            28 October 2025 14: 12
            In the 90s, those who left for the Soviet era were long Ukrainians.
          2. +2
            28 October 2025 20: 02
            I confirm the author's correctness. I had a best friend, a Russian guy named Sashka, although he disliked the USSR, especially the "commies," as he called them. He disliked everything about Russia, and in 1994, he left for Ukraine and settled there. At first, we corresponded, but then it became impossible to communicate with him, as he began expressing complete contempt for everything Russian. So the author is right; he raised the right issues in the article. They are not our fraternal people.
    5. +4
      28 October 2025 09: 50
      As a Russian chauvinist, whose chauvinism was nurtured by the people of Ukraine (apparently, your brothers, too), I'll answer you this: the author is absolutely right. In 85, I moved from Kazakhstan, where the Kazakhs were truly brothers to me (forget that now, we're gradually becoming their enemies, too), to Ukraine. Within a month, I already knew what kind of creatures these fraternal Ukrainian people are. They differ only in the degree of their "dislike" for Russians from Khadapa to the East. In 89, after finishing school, I returned to my homeland, Russia, and crossed myself. So: the author is right. And for you and the chief liberal of the Russian State, let these Vyrushi continue to be a fraternal people, a single people—call it what you will.
      1. +1
        28 October 2025 14: 13
        Quote: AlexSam
        continue to remain a brotherly people, a united people, call it what you like

        In Soviet times, interethnic marriages were common, so dividing us by some unknown characteristic isn't so easy. But, in fact, being Russian isn't a nationality (we accept everyone), but a mentality. Everyone rakes in the dough, and only the chicken pushes away. So we remain that chicken.
    6. -4
      28 October 2025 09: 53
      Do you think the Author needs to urgently run to the Canadian border? Yes laughing
      1. +4
        28 October 2025 20: 07
        What exactly did the author write that was wrong?
        1. -6
          28 October 2025 20: 17
          What exactly did the author write correctly? laughing So, yes, a Jew. Yes
    7. +3
      28 October 2025 11: 42
      Well, first of all, Putin hasn't said anything about a united Russian people in a long time. And they've long since stopped allowing Ukrainians from Ukraine to come here freely.
      Secondly, we and Ukrainians have different values. What's considered normal here is frowned upon by Ukrainians, and vice versa.
      So the situation is the same as with the Germans and Austrians, one language, different peoples.
    8. 0
      29 October 2025 17: 09
      Golden words about the Russian world. It's just a shame the Ukrainians don't consider themselves part of it.
  3. 0
    28 October 2025 05: 19
    It's not that simple. And don't confuse the regime with the people. Ukraine isn't populated solely by Ukrainians. There are many Russians and other nationalities there. Ukraine is a country where, in a short period of time, hatred of the Russian people has been instilled. After all, there was a demonstration in Kyiv on May 1st that demonstrated connections to the RSFSR. This hatred is purely indoctrinated. Hybrid warfare isn't just military action. It's a war for people's minds. And in the age of the internet, this war has acquired enormous significance. What do we have as a result? A primitive understanding of war and peace.
    1. +12
      28 October 2025 07: 55
      I'll put it this way: the article at least strikes the right note in that the author no longer disputes the existence of the Ukrainian people, despite the abrupt and short-lived existence of their separate state. Istria is well aware of cases of people existing without their own statehood – the Kurds, the Chukchi, and so on. That's already an achievement.
      Regarding the "Russianness" of the south-east of Ukraine, the author touched tenderly on the topic, but went off track. He should have better illuminated the history of the settlement of the "Wild Field," the culture and life of the settlers, the political history, etc., in order to understand that historically there was little "Russian" there (although in those days such a concept did not exist; there were their own "Orthodox," Catholic "Germans," Jews, and non-Christian infidels).
      As for the "hatred," I personally don't really remember it before about 2014. Before that (and for a while after, by inertia, too), we more or less shared the same cultural environment, and aside from isolated individuals (of which we had plenty), there weren't any problems. After the last four years, we probably won't have that anymore, but we'll have to build neighborly relationships sooner or later, whether we like it or not.
      I can only draw one conclusion from this article: an awkward attempt at an anti-crisis, against the backdrop of the SVO's lackluster performance and not-so-optimistic thoughts flickering here and there, like, "Okay, you've convinced me, Ukrainians exist, but they hate us on a genetic and cultural level, and therefore it's all worth it."
      1. +2
        28 October 2025 09: 02
        Quote: parma
        Regarding the “Russianness” of the south-east of Ukraine, the author touched upon the topic tenderly, but went off in the wrong direction. He should have better covered the history of the settlement of the “Wild Field,” the culture and life of the settlers, the political history, etc., in order to understand that historically there is little that is “Russian” there.

        What was NOT Russian in Nikolaev, Mariupol, Odessa, Rostov-on-Don, Tiraspol, etc. (and these are the same cities in all respects)?
        1. +9
          28 October 2025 10: 09
          Quote: Olgovich
          What was non-Russian in Nikolaev, Mariupol, Odessa, Rostov-on-Don, Tiraspol, etc.
          What was un-Russian about the "Russian Spring," when rallies under Russian flags took place across southeastern Ukraine? What was un-Russian about the referendums in Donbas? How were they worse than the referendum in Crimea? So much for Rostov-on-Don and Odessa-on-Don. They had to do everything backwards to get what we have with this protracted, poorly prepared "operation," eight years too late, and this "grinding," it seems, of only their own resources in the fourth year of hostilities.
          1. -4
            28 October 2025 12: 08
            What was Russian about the "Russian Spring"? Freebies! Russia, pay up!
            1. +10
              28 October 2025 14: 22
              Quote: Vatnik_
              Freebie! Russia, come on, pay up!
              Donbas, where Russians were killed for eight years and their choice was not recognized, also wanted a freebie? Perhaps ambassadors from Kyiv should have begged their respects and invited Prince Vladimir to the throne? Everything must be fought for. Our traders are greedy for freebies, selling off Soviet military equipment, oil, gas, timber, and fish, for which they didn't have to toil or sow. They shit their pants in 2014 for their "hard-earned gains." The junta immediately became legitimate, everything was recognized, and Gazprom even paid the Nazis around $1,3 billion a year for transit. Apparently, the Banderites used that money to buy "flowers" for Donbas, not to pump money into the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
              1. -6
                28 October 2025 14: 56
                So why did they vote for Ukrainian independence in 1991? Why didn't they want to return to impoverished Russia? The Transnistrian Moldavian Republic immediately abandoned Moldova.
                And in 2014, by the way, they also didn’t want to join Russia; they wanted independence from Kyiv.
                Where is it about Russia?
                Moreover, in 2022 they kept playing until the very end!
                1. +3
                  28 October 2025 15: 13
                  Well, why did they vote for Ukrainian independence in 1991?

                  But they were supposed to vote for... dependence? What kind of voting is that?
                  Which republics voted for "dependence"? It seems they all voted for independence. Isn't that right?
                  Why didn’t you want to return to impoverished Russia?

                  How? By the military? Well, we'd have a situation like 2014 in 1991. Not by the military—that's unrealistic. For that, you don't have to express the will to secede, but someone else has to express the will to let you go (at least two-thirds of the population of each region of the country).
                  wanted independence from Kyiv.

                  They wanted exactly what was coming down from Russia.
                  Moreover, in 2022 they kept playing until the very end!

                  Are you now talking about the maturation period from 2014 to 2022 of the Russian leadership in the question "What to do with them?"
                  P.S. I'm wondering, do you understand that scapegoats are not respected?
                  1. -3
                    28 October 2025 16: 01
                    Well, Crimea voted against independence in 1991, and in 2014 returned to its native harbor, and some cunningly dressed ones showed off until the very end, until it was explained to them that the Russian Armed Forces only defend the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    Ah, whose brains are you trying to mess with now? You never wanted to be Russia, you always wanted to be your own people, but you wanted Russia to protect you from the Ukrainians and open up the market for you. And yes, Donetsk business is something like that, I've heard about it.
                    1. +7
                      28 October 2025 16: 57
                      It wasn't just those who were given the explanation who were cunning, but also those who blew this "Spring"... Damn, how can you forgive inaction regarding the crime in Odessa on May 2, 2014?
                      1. -4
                        28 October 2025 17: 32
                        Well, Putin told you in plain English to sit quietly and not make a fuss. Did he tell you? He did! Why are you getting into trouble?
                    2. +2
                      28 October 2025 17: 26
                      Well, Crimea voted against independence in 1991.

                      wassat
                      It would be better not to remember. It doesn't bother me that
                      Crimea voted for... Crimean independence. from the other subjects of the USSR, considering itself a separate subject of the "new USSR" lol
                      Ah, whose brains are you planning to mess with now?

                      You're just trying to figure it out. Too bad, though.
                      1. -2
                        28 October 2025 17: 36
                        The people of Crimea never imagined themselves as part of Ukraine, unlike those in Donbas. I was there in 2002-2005 and saw it.
                        You are furious that the Ukrainians took you for fools.
                      2. 0
                        28 October 2025 17: 49
                        The population of Crimea never imagined itself as part of Ukraine

                        1) The Crimean referendum in January 91 – Crimea demonstrated that it wanted to be a separate entity. That is, it didn't see itself as part of Russia either. lol This is the first.
                        2) The December 91 referendum—32,5% of Crimeans were completely indifferent. Of the remaining 67,5%... 54% voted for an independent Ukraine. And, accordingly, for themselves to be part of it.
                        P.S. By the way, you've demonstrated yet another stupidity with Kravchuk's leaflet. Can you figure out what it is?
        2. -1
          28 October 2025 10: 31
          The horses were all mixed up, and so on... Let's start with the fact that there was no division into Russians/Ukrainians and other nationalities at the time; they were divided by religion and allegiance. Before their annexation by the Russian Empire, these territories were the Slavic equivalent of the "Wild West," having been under development since the 12th century, and gravitating closer to Poland. The local society developed under the conditions of these territories' semi-independence (no one accepted them as allies, as this would have created conflict with the Crimean Khanate and, consequently, the Ottoman Empire). The cities you mentioned were created as centers of something specific in the late 18th century after their annexation, but the majority of the population already lived in these territories, and their so-called "mentality" was very different from that of the inhabitants of the "Russian lands."
          1. +1
            28 October 2025 12: 03
            Quote: parma
            but the majority of the population already lived in these territories and

            In the...Wild Steppe?! And who are they? Centaurs?
            1. +1
              28 October 2025 13: 02
              Aha, centaurs and mermaids... "Wild Field" is a very historical name for the eastern part of Ukraine, where local Cossacks lived. These were those who migrated away from central authority, whether in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Muscovite lands, or the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The maximum number of "registered Cossacks" alone—those receiving salaried status—reached 40 under the Poles, and as many as 60 under the Muscovite tsars. Moreover, Cossack uprisings (like the one in Taras Bulba) were caused precisely by the Cossacks' desire to expand the "register"; in their view, there were too few people serving the king. If there were fewer unregistered Cossacks than registered ones, there would have been no uprisings. But why study history when it's easier to reason in your own terms?
              1. -1
                29 October 2025 08: 25
                Quote: parma
                "Wild Field" is a very historical name for the eastern part of Ukraine where local Cossacks lived.


                I don’t know the eastern part of Ukraine, because it didn’t exist during the time of the Wild Field, and in the Wild Field there was NO ONE except the nomadic steppe people.

                But
                Quote: parma

                Why know history when it's easier to reason in your terms?
                1. -1
                  29 October 2025 10: 13
                  I never claimed Ukraine existed back then, though Russia didn't exist back then either; everything had different names and the divisions were different. If no one lived in the Wild Fields, where did the Zaporizhian Cossacks live? What territories were annexed after the Khmelnytsky Uprising?
                  1. 0
                    29 October 2025 11: 57
                    Quote: parma
                    And I didn’t claim that Ukraine existed then, although Russia didn’t exist then either,



                    The Russian Tsardom, or the Russian Tsardom, Russia, also the Muscovite Tsardom, was the name of the Russian state between 1547 and 1721.
                    Quote: parma
                    If no one lived on the territory of the Wild Field,

                    These are the uninhabited steppes of the Black Sea region, conquered and built up by RUSSIA, which became NOROSSIYA
                    1. 0
                      29 October 2025 12: 43
                      Once again, where did the Cossacks live then? Where was the Zaporizhian Sich, and what lands were annexed as a result of Bohdan Khmelnytsky's uprising?
        3. -6
          28 October 2025 11: 55
          I'm not Russian, I'm a Cossack!
          In the RSFSR this was eradicated within a hundred years, but in Ukraine everything remained the same!
          1. +6
            28 October 2025 14: 26
            Quote: Vatnik_
            I'm not Russian, I'm a Cossack!
            It sounds like, I'm not Russian, I'm a corporal.
            1. +1
              28 October 2025 14: 52
              Everything can be.
              As you call a ship, it will sail.
            2. +1
              28 October 2025 15: 58
              It's like Zhirinovsky: my mother is Russian, and my father is a lawyer. But we ourselves are from Western Ukraine.
  4. +20
    28 October 2025 05: 39
    They hate the Russian way of life with all their guts

    What does the author consider the "Russian way of life"? Total official theft, the overabundance of migrants, the destruction of the education and healthcare systems, the debt trap—all of this is repeatedly discussed on this website, with the conclusion that nothing will change, and that this is the "Russian way of life." Well, Russians themselves hate it too. If the "Russian way of life" means tolerating this lawlessness, it's no wonder there are few supporters even within Russia. The author should be reading this website, but every article here is filled with "everything is being done wrong, we need to do it differently, otherwise we'll perish," and many agree. But in reality, nothing has changed for the better. Is it surprising that the "Russian way of life" only attracts migrants from Central Asia?
    1. +3
      28 October 2025 05: 58
      This isn't the Russian way of life. It's a Western one, one that our leaders have been persistently imposing on us by hook or by crook for 35 years now. And it's generally clear why...
      1. +14
        28 October 2025 06: 46
        Quote: paul3390
        This is precisely the Western one, which has been implemented here by hook or by crook with enviable persistence by our leaders for 35 years now. And it's generally clear why...

        If we live according to the "Western way of life," then where does the "visceral hatred" come from in those who strive for this life?
        1. +2
          28 October 2025 20: 22
          But we don't live by it. They're trying to force us to live by it. Do you see the difference? We're not real Westerners, we're fakes... We've remained true to ourselves, despite all the efforts of those at the top.
          1. 0
            28 October 2025 20: 50
            [quote]But we don't live by it[/quote]
            True, but that's not life, it's just existence. From paycheck to paycheck, and God forbid you get sick. A simple cold is fine, but what if it's something serious?
            It's easier for young people: don't have kids and you can even find time for a vacation, but what about us at our age? We try to live like we used to, according to our conscience, but all around us there are those who have chosen a lack of conscience as the path to success. Cheating, cheating, stealing... It's all in plain sight. An honest person is invisible because it's a priori invisible. What's visible is someone who has made a different choice. [quote=paul3390]Despite all the efforts of those at the top.[/quote]
            [quote=paul3390]But we don't live by it. They're trying to force us to live by it. Do you feel the difference? We're not real Westerners, we're fake ones... We've remained ourselves, just as we were. Despite all the efforts of the top brass.
    2. 0
      28 October 2025 09: 26
      Quote: Puncher
      The "Russian way of life" only attracts migrants

      So Crimea and Novorossiya didn't want to join Russia?
      Quote: Puncher
      What does the author think of the "Russian way of life"? Total theft by officials, an overabundance of migrants, the destruction of the education and healthcare systems, and debt bondage.


      This is the opportunity and conditions to remain Russian—to study in a Russian school, at a Russian-language university, in Russian culture and history, in a society that preserves and honors its Russian monuments, its Russian writers, poets, scientists, heroes, May 9th, its Faith—and that's a lot. All this is understandable, however, to those who lack it.
      Everything else is empty
      1. +1
        28 October 2025 10: 40
        Quote: Olgovich
        So Crimea and Novorossiya didn't want to join Russia?

        We wanted to, I agree.
        Quote: Olgovich
        This is the opportunity and conditions to remain Russian - to study in a Russian school, at an institute in the Russian language, Russian culture and history, in a society where its Russian monuments, its Russian writers, poets, scientists, heroes, May 9, its Faith are preserved and honored - and this is a very significant thing.

        Hmmm... For example, are Yakuts then obliged to "genitally hate" the "Russian way of life" because it prohibits them from remaining Yakuts—from studying Yakut culture and history in the Yakut language at a Yakut school or university? No? Why do you think the "Russian way of life" is limited to everything Russian? Or aren't Tatars, Evenks, Buryats, Yukaghirs, and many other peoples worthy of doing the same in their native language? You know that teaching in any language other than Russian is prohibited in the Russian Federation, meaning mathematics or physics in Dagestani, for example? Do you really think the "Russian way of life" is the suppression of everything non-Russian?
        1. 0
          29 October 2025 08: 32
          Quote: Puncher
          Mmm... For example, the Yakuts are then obliged to "have a gut-wrenching hatred" for the "Russian way of life" because it forbids them from remaining Yakuts.

          A Russian is allowed to remain Russian, a Yakut is allowed to remain Yakut, etc. It's not clear what's not clear...
        2. 0
          29 October 2025 16: 39
          meaning mathematics or physics in Dagestani

          There is no Dagestani language.
          1. 0
            29 October 2025 17: 33
            Quote: Wened75
            There is no Dagestani language.

            And Buryat?
    3. 0
      28 October 2025 12: 01
      The Russian way of life, also known as the Russian way of life, is based on peasant values: collectivism, mutual assistance, love for one's neighbor, and hard work. Pride, arrogance, and dishonesty are rejected.
      Ukrainian society condemns Russian (peasant) values ​​and embraces precisely those rejected by Russian society. There, it's considered acceptable to cheat, swindle a neighbor, live at the expense of others, and so on. In our country, bragging about such things is not acceptable.
      1. +1
        28 October 2025 20: 24
        Exactly. Look at Russian fairy tales – they think it's good and proper to be prosperous and a strong landowner. But being rich – not so much. The people didn't like the rich – because they clearly knew how to get rich.
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        2. 0
          29 October 2025 04: 01
          Judging by the ratings, Sechin and Miller also read the comments.
      2. -4
        28 October 2025 20: 34
        I will add some quotes from great people:
        Gogol"The ho...l has a selfless love for meanness. He won't get anything out of it, but he will do nasty things to his neighbor."
        M. Gorky"The most important characteristic of the Ukrainian people is their sadistic cruelty."
        S. Aksakov"Oh, how hard it is to live in Ukraine, in this stinking center of physical and moral depravity, meanness, lies, and villainy."
        1. -2
          28 October 2025 22: 13
          Well, we’re thinking: are we really one people?
  5. +4
    28 October 2025 05: 50
    I don't know how it is in other countries. But here in Russia, when hard times came, our people especially disliked those who profited from these difficulties.
  6. +10
    28 October 2025 06: 10
    What a long-winded drag!
    The only starting point is the collapse and self-liquidation of the USSR in December 1991. From that moment on, the Russian Federation, as the legal successor to the USSR, began to consider itself the undisputed leader in the post-Soviet space and, accordingly, to perceive the post-Soviet space itself as its exclusive sphere of influence, since Eastern Europe had been unequivocally "surrendered" under the USSR. Current problems began around 2004 with the accession of the Baltic states to NATO, then in 2005 the presidency of the openly pro-Western and anti-Russian Yushchenko began, then the war of August 8, 2008, and from there, things spiraled downwards. Therefore, we shouldn't delve into history from the 9th century onward; instead, we should recognize that the Central Military District was a rather desperate Russian reaction to the active expulsion of Russia and pro-Russian forces from the post-Soviet space and NATO's approach right up to Russia's borders.
    1. +2
      28 October 2025 08: 02
      self-liquidation of the USSR
      In contrast to the cowardly nonsense of the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, there is no “self-liquidation” of States; everything is done by people.
      1. +8
        28 October 2025 08: 24
        So our Soviet people carried out the self-liquidation of the USSR from within, and so quickly that the CIA and the Pentagon were shocked.
        1. 0
          28 October 2025 08: 34
          That's right, PEOPLE, not "the USSR self-destructed." And these people are terrified of taking responsibility for the fact that, contrary to the will of the majority of voters in the referendum on preserving the USSR, they divided it into their evil, anti-Soviet, Russophobic states.
          1. +5
            28 October 2025 08: 42
            Don't be ridiculous. From the standpoint of political agency, it was the USSR that self-liquidated as an independent subject of international law and interstate relations. Among the internal reasons for the USSR's self-liquidation, there is the people in power, but it is one of several and perhaps not even the primary one.
            1. -3
              28 October 2025 08: 50
              There's nothing funny about it. And no matter how many cowardly and delusional "reasons" you, enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, come up with to justify your seizure and dismemberment of the USSR, not one of you can prove how, without your "Liberator" Gorbachev, you could have seized the USSR. And how, without him, the USSR could have "collapsed on its own," "self-liquidated."
              One of the qualities of the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR is an insane fear of the slightest responsibility for what you have done; you are cowardly even where it is not necessary.
              1. +6
                28 October 2025 09: 05
                It's now, in retrospect, that they're feeding us the lie that Gorby acted almost alone, relying solely on a handful of careerists and traitors, while all the honest Soviet people around him were unanimously against him. That's a lie. In reality, crowds followed Gorby and listened to him with their mouths open, and not just ordinary people. Otherwise, Gorby would have been removed just as Khrushch was removed in the fall of 1964.
                1. 0
                  28 October 2025 09: 10
                  But there's no sign of either Gorbachev's or Yeltsin's supporters. Everyone who supported them immediately betrayed them as soon as they no longer needed them. And they de facto overthrew the leader of their anti-communist counterrevolution, Gorbachev, as soon as, thanks to him, they seized the USSR and divided it among themselves.
                  And no matter how much they praise their current “leader” “to the skies”, they will do the same to him, because that is their mentality.
                  1. +5
                    28 October 2025 09: 49
                    I don't see any supporters of Gorbachev or Yeltsin.

                    There are plenty of them now - they love to talk about themselves, how they suffered from poverty and the regime in the USSR, and in the 1990s they enjoyed freedom and prosperity.
                    1. -2
                      28 October 2025 16: 00
                      In the USSR, 99% of citizens suffered, while ONE percent enjoyed it! I lived there and remember it very well.
    2. +11
      28 October 2025 08: 30
      The Russian Federation is the legal successor to the USSR within its own territory—according to the Constitution—but not in the post-Soviet space. And it was precisely the loss of influence in this same post-Soviet space, both globally and in the former republics, that became the cause of all the negative processes in relations with the former Soviet republics.
      It's just that the people who came to power after the collapse of the USSR had no other thoughts than to grab as much as they could and carry it as far as possible! That's basically what the supposed "servants" of the people are doing to this day...
      1. 0
        28 October 2025 08: 38
        There's no need to explain the basics or the Constitution to me. I've explained the political nature and origins of Russia's leadership ambitions in the post-Soviet space briefly but clearly.
        1. 0
          28 October 2025 09: 25
          and I didn't intend to explain anything to you, I simply reminded you, since this fundamentally contradicts your idea - "From that moment on, the Russian Federation, as the legal successor to the USSR, began to consider itself the undisputed leader in the post-Soviet space, and, accordingly, to perceive the post-Soviet space itself as its exclusive sphere of influence," which you convey to the masses.
          1. +3
            28 October 2025 09: 58
            Once again, succession from the USSR is not a legal, but a political justification for Russia's leadership ambitions in the post-Soviet space.
    3. +6
      28 October 2025 10: 22
      Quote: severok1979
      and instead recognize that the SVO is a rather desperate reaction of Russia to the active expulsion of Russia and pro-Russian forces from the post-Soviet space and the approach of NATO right up to Russia's borders

      However, it seems as if Russia's new masters are merely finishing what began in 1991. No one in the West needs a strong Russia; it's been and continues to be drained of resources and assets. Despite this, there is something that could be considered a victory in the Central Military District, and whose victory it is? The "operation" will soon be four years old, and even Donbas hasn't been fully liberated. Frontal assaults on endless villages, the emptying of warehouses and arsenals, the devastation of the economy. With such "grinding," what's next? Why did they recognize Poroshenko, essentially legitimizing the unconstitutional coup in Kyiv? Why did they recognize Ukraine's integrity? Was this a "desperate reaction" or something else?
      1. -1
        28 October 2025 16: 03
        The SVO is a way for the decrepit Komsomol members of the 70s, who successfully seized other people's property, to stay in power.
        1. +2
          29 October 2025 06: 27
          Quote: Mykola Kovacs
          for the decrepit Komsomol members of the 70s,

          They were just as much "Komsomol members" as they were "communists." The trouble is that the opportunistic careerists who harmed and denigrated socialism first destroyed the USSR, and now they are in the new ruling party.
  7. +4
    28 October 2025 06: 39
    So it's pointless to count on any "Zelenskyy decisions." Whatever he decides (like any other Ukrainian leader), the Ukrainian people will want a war of annihilation with Russia. And the Russians should have no illusions about this.

    Very interesting historical background and conclusions...
    The only comment is that "effective managers" should have thought about this before 22nd, or better yet, before 14.
  8. +15
    28 October 2025 07: 09
    And yet, in fairness. We wonder why Russians from the outskirts of Russia, who by fate found themselves in these territories, are fighting against us? Neither in 14-15, nor even in 22, did Russians from the outskirts of Russia fight against us...
    We "abandoned" them in 14-15 - the "business" of Poroshenko, Akhmetov, Medvedchuks, Abramovich won...
    In '22, they came to Kyiv, Kherson, and the Kharkiv region, hung up posters reading "With Russia Forever," handed out new school curricula to teachers, filmed those who spoke out in support of Russia and showed them "on television"... and then, bam – "goodwill" with "difficult decisions." Even now, residents of Donetsk, Luhansk, and Mariupol, no matter how many of them remain, are "a little less than thrilled" about the active settlement of these territories by "foreigners with an alien mentality."
    I'd like to ask the author of this article how the mentality of residents of Kharkov differed from that of Belgorod, and that of residents of Kherson and Nikolaev from that of Kuban?
    So it is impossible to explain today's "non-brothers" with just "Dekanka".
    p.s. I understand that my words will not please our "hurray-patriots".
    1. +1
      28 October 2025 08: 20
      And yet, in the interests of fairness. We wonder why Russians from the outskirts of Russia, who by fate found themselves in these territories, are fighting against us?

      and if the same question is put differently:
      Do you spend your salary on your family yourself or give it to your wife?
      Do you do things around the house yourself or do you follow your wife's instructions?
      And another question - in the family, who makes decisions on life-changing issues?
      And if your wife is from Ukraine, then from what "angle of view" will everything be viewed?
      I'm talking about those Russians who married Ukrainian women and moved in with them - as "primaki"...
      Look around, the men around you are mostly, by nature, lackeys...
      and what to expect from them?
      There was an article here recently about how they're going to recruit women into the Ukrainian Armed Forces - and I wrote that only women walk around with "pots" on their heads, and their men don't even have heads...
      1. -1
        28 October 2025 08: 42
        From what you're saying, does that mean the main problem is that Russian men married Ukrainian women? I disagree.
        And I would also like to understand who is considered “Ukrainian”.
        People moved to Ukraine in the USSR after being assigned from universities, and many remained behind when troops withdrew from military groups.
        While troops were being withdrawn to "open fields" in Russia, military camps were being built for them in Ukraine. I don't think this was done out of "stupidity."
        Even now, much is being done far from “out of stupidity” of “responsible comrades”
        1. 0
          28 October 2025 08: 44
          From your words, it turns out that the main problem is that Russian men married Ukrainian women?

          Read again what I wrote...
        2. 0
          28 October 2025 08: 44
          Т
          And even now, much is being done far from “out of stupidity” of “responsible comrades”

          Are you talking about Gorbachev and his wife?
          1. -1
            28 October 2025 10: 08
            Misha and Raya were eaten by worms long ago, I don't care. I'm interested in today's "stupidities." hi
            1. 0
              28 October 2025 10: 23
              Misha and Raya were eaten by worms long ago, I don't care. I'm interested in today's "stupidities."

              and "people" - do they change?
              the surnames of these people are changing...
    2. -1
      29 October 2025 06: 53
      Why are Russian people from the outskirts of Russia fighting against us, having found themselves in these territories by the will of fate?

      What do you mean, "ended up there by fate"? Were they deported, or did their ship drop them off and sail away forever? People didn't "end up" there by someone's will, but had long lived there for perfectly natural, historical reasons and reasons.
      We "abandoned" them in 14-15 - the "business" of Poroshenko, Akhmetov, Medvedchuks, Abramovich won...

      We couldn't even properly organize and launch the SVO in 2022—where does such absolute certainty come from that in 2014-15, the SVO, as implemented by the Russian Ministry of Defense, would have followed the "Crimea-2014" scenario or, at most, the "Georgia-2008" scenario?
      In 22, they came to Kyiv, Kherson, and the Kharkiv region, and hung up posters reading "With Russia forever."

      We arrived and found that no one had greeted us with flowers or Russian flags, and the majority had adopted a wait-and-see attitude of neutrality. Not everyone accepted us as liberators. The withdrawal of the Russian Armed Forces and the accompanying damage from the fighting had turned their stance openly anti-Russian.
  9. +3
    28 October 2025 07: 39
    To see this, there's no need to delve into the intricacies and details of historical scholarship. A quick glance at the well-known facts, well-known enough to be taught in school history, is sufficient.

    That's right. That's how it should be.
    1. +1
      28 October 2025 08: 33
      The author skimmed over the most important parts of history so quickly that he didn't even touch on some of them. Not even a single bit. laughing
      Good morning, Eduard! hi
      1. 0
        28 October 2025 08: 59
        ...that some of the tops weren't even touched.

        ++++++++++++++++++++
        Good morning Alexey!
        hi
  10. +1
    28 October 2025 07: 47
    When I listened over and over again to the recordings of “Evenings on a Farm Near Dikanka” by the unforgettable Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol that I happened to have at my dacha
    That's certainly a lot! I have my favorite books and movies, but "repeatedly" is not far from becoming a pain in the neck. Or, for example, "I communicate a lot," "people write to me a lot"—is there something in common there? laughing
    1. -1
      28 October 2025 08: 38
      Or the example was "I communicate a lot", "they write to me a lot", is there something in common here?
      Or...you understand, a bad example is contagious, it's like Covid. smile
      1. +5
        28 October 2025 09: 11
        The funniest thing is that this very same "Dikanka" by Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol is studied in the 5th grade of our schools!
        I read it with my son and had to explain half the meaning to him; he doesn’t understand any Ukrainianisms or everyday life at all.
        And this, by today's standards, is a very well-read guy...and he forged horseshoes in your "Atamans" and waved a saber laughing and acquired a Kubanka in the homeland of his ancestors.

        And at school, they treat "Dikanka" as an ethnotext, where the main thing to know for the Unified State Exam tests is what a necklace is, what cherevichki are (the answer blew me away), and which famous figures were at the meeting of the Cossacks with Catherine II? laughing
        So that:
        I drink myself, I walk myself, I make my bed myself, I lie down myself!
        1. +1
          28 October 2025 09: 21
          I drink myself, I walk myself, I make my bed myself, I lie down myself!

          Of course, how could it be otherwise? smile
        2. +4
          28 October 2025 09: 23
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          The funniest thing is that this very same "Dikanka" by Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol is studied in the 5th grade of our schools!

          The funny thing is that in Ukraine, 15 years ago, Gogol was moved from the national literature category to the foreign literature category in the school curriculum. They themselves abandoned him back under Yushchenko.
          1. 0
            28 October 2025 20: 46
            Here's a quote from Gogol: "The Ukrainian has a selfless love of meanness. He won't get anything out of it, but he will do nasty things to his neighbor."
            This is how we differ from Ukrainians.
            1. -2
              29 October 2025 12: 38
              This is how we differ from Ukrainians.

              In that you are unable to distinguish fakes, you are no different from some of them.
              And in disseminating nonsense too.
              https://pikabu.ru/story/a_mozhet_gogol_byil_prav_v_svete_poslednikh_sobyitiy_2075843

              So what, is there a difference? They're like two peas in a pod. Sad.
  11. +3
    28 October 2025 07: 57
    A litany of reasons have already been invented for what some enemies of the USSR did to other enemies of the USSR. But they don't acknowledge the one and only real reason.
  12. 0
    28 October 2025 09: 01
    So, these are the real reasons for the SVO: the people there are bad. And what's funny is that the people there are bad, but the oligarchs there are good, they'll come to an agreement with ours. All those newcomers to the Russian Federation are much better than "non-brothers," and that's why the SVO isn't being carried out against those republics. And the really cool ones live in the Baltics, practically their own. They declared it, then calmly joined NATO, didn't even conduct any SVO or draw any red lines, they even waved a handkerchief after... with a tear. And the Baltics, somewhere near Australia... there are simply good people there. There are good people in Finland, in Sweden, even in the US, Samsonov wrote an article here about the US being the global evil. Something against the US, the SVO hasn't been carried out for a long time, but why? It's just that good people live there, not like in Ukraine, some kind of degenerates... Once we win, we'll demilitarize, denazify, meaning we'll impale the entire population, we'll only leave the oligarchs to swindle, they're good after all... laughing laughing And we'll bring Indians and Kenyans to Ukraine. laughing laughing
  13. +1
    28 October 2025 09: 24
    Quote: tatra
    I don't see any supporters of Gorbachev or Yeltsin; everyone who was for them immediately betrayed them.

    There are plenty of them now - they love to talk about themselves, how they suffered under the regime in the USSR, and in the 1990s they enjoyed freedom.
  14. -3
    28 October 2025 09: 34
    And this was precisely the period of formation of the people’s self-identification.
    Even in the 19th century, the guru of Ukrainians, Shevchenko, did not yet know "Ukrainians" (not a SINGLE mention by him), but for the author they have existed since the 14th century...
    1. +4
      28 October 2025 13: 47
      Even in the 19th century, the guru of Ukrainians, Shevchenko, did not yet know "Ukrainians" (not a SINGLE mention by him), but for the author they have existed since the 14th century...

      1) But Kulish, Kvitka-Osnovyanenko, and Chubinsky have it. And while the first two use it as an ethnic group or regional ethnicity, the last uses it specifically as a form of self-identification.
      2) The Russian guru Pushkin knew
      Quote: Boris Godunov
      I thought about it, I was preparing a miracle for the world -
      And finally he ran away from the cell
      To the Ukrainians, to their wild kurens,
      I learned to handle a horse and a saber;
      He came to you and called himself Dmitry.
      And he deceived the brainless Poles.

      It is clear that here, again, the Slobozhansky Cossacks are implied (we must not forget that the work is about the events of the 16th century), but this does not change the essence.
  15. +5
    28 October 2025 09: 44
    I served in the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany from 1983 to 1985, and there were difficulties with the Zapadentsy. My father-in-law studied in Odessa from 1974 to 1978, and there were difficulties with the Zapadentsy, too. Ignoring means multiplying, so they ignored it... They should have paid attention to this. 600 years is a long time.
  16. +1
    28 October 2025 10: 34
    IMHO, this isn't an "ethnic divide," but rather a "sociocultural" one... And "khokhlism" as a phenomenon is inherent to any ethnic group. Unfortunately, my article about the sociocultural phenomenon behind this latest "ism" was declined (to avoid fueling the nationalist debate—though that's not what it's about).
    Those interested can read it on Zen - https://dzen.ru/a/ZYxkbHdbgEs3jZqN
    1. VlK
      0
      31 October 2025 15: 01
      Thanks for reading. I wonder what could possibly be fueling the "national question" beyond what's being discussed in the comments, if it's really not about that at all?
      And how can we eliminate the breeding ground itself? That's the question of questions. We're no stranger to winning wars, but we're not very good at winning peace.
      - quote from there
      It is obvious that only by opposing a counter-idea that will lead humanity not downwards, back to the animal level through the highest ideals of endless consumption, but to something high in the soul, truly worthy of the inherent potential of human consciousness.
      1. 0
        31 October 2025 17: 38
        Oppose it with a "counter-idea"? Well, given the fact that "khokhlism" as a phenomenon is characterized by its complete lack of ideas, that'll be difficult. Khokhlism absorbs and co-opts any idea, forming a simulacrum of it and mimicking any "ism."
  17. -1
    28 October 2025 10: 43
    Quote: paul3390
    The reason for this attitude toward us, not only from the inhabitants of Tsegabonia but also from our other former brethren, is obvious. In their eyes, we are not worthy of the high rank of Master, despite occupying his place...
    And indeed, we don't beat them to death, we don't take away their last, we don't humiliate them at every turn, we don't make them kneel before us, we don't despise them as if they weren't human, and so on. On the contrary, we give them freebies, show them respect, don't interfere with their lives, and treat them as equals.
    What kind of Master is this? It's offensive and beneath you to even obey such a one. Take the Germans, the Poles, the Anglo-Saxons—those are the real Masters, obeying them is sweet and pleasant. But the Russians—no. That's where the real roots of hatred come from.

    Well, what's stopping you from turning on the owner?
  18. +1
    28 October 2025 11: 37
    Author! Next time, read "Viy" and see if any other thoughts come to mind.
    1. -2
      28 October 2025 20: 53
      What's wrong with reading the classics? They get to the root of the problem, and much can be understood and learned from their seemingly neutral works.
      So the author is right in citing such sources.
  19. -2
    28 October 2025 15: 47
    author Without a second thought, he listed Chernigov as part of Lithuania and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth! Even though it's part of Russia. You need to read your history textbook carefully. It's not all that simple in the minds of Ukrainians. The most ardent members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union were from this tribe. Moreover, the further west the Ukrainian was, the louder and more terrifying the clamor of communism within him.
  20. 0
    28 October 2025 21: 11
    "Today, it's simply a cesspool for all those individuals, once of common Slavic origin, who deeply hate the Russian way of life. Incidentally, many of them vegetate in the cities and villages of Russia itself. And they thirst in vain for Ukraine's victory."

    So it turns out that the issue is not about politicians, but about who ended up where?
    Some are in the sump, and some are somewhere else? Rolling around in cheese cream?

    Author! You generated the text rather than wrote it, as an author.
  21. 0
    29 October 2025 08: 24
    As soon as some historian starts spewing nonsense about "territories destroyed by the Mongols," it's time to stop reading. We'll hear nothing but insane nonsense about the notorious "yoke." Since "yoke" is completely meaningless nonsense, fundamentally at odds with simple arithmetic, this means the author is either a fraud or, let's say, lacks critical thinking skills. Therefore, their reasoning is worthless in itself.
    His message is correct. Ukrainians truly hate Russians and everything Russian. I experienced this myself back in the USSR. But the Drevlyans aren't to blame. And the Polyans have nothing to do with it. It's simpler. What is Ukraine? It's a borderland. The outskirts of Russia, and formerly, Rus'. And what's more, it's incredibly rich in black soil, fertile...
    Basically, for centuries, those driven out by Russian communities have been carried there. You know, there are people with whom it's impossible to coexist. Those who live by doing nasty things to their neighbors, near and far. Those who "will eat bread with you, and then shit in your soup."
    Even the patience of the Russian community is not infinite. And one day, the neighbors gather and tell this person or this family, "Get lost. Or else it will lead to something sinful." Or they fled before the explosion. So, these people lingered in Ukraine because it was easy to get plenty of food there. But they never lost their mentality or their hatred of Russia, where they couldn't commit their evil acts with impunity. Such was the genetic and social selection process.
    Anyone who's had close contact with Ukrainians will agree with me. Unfortunately, we, too, are accumulating Kubanoids...
  22. +1
    29 October 2025 10: 22
    it's just a cesspool of all those individuals....
    In fact, such a statement is fascism. Declaring an entire country inferior, indiscriminately, is pure fascism. No matter how society was formed before, the fact is that this process never ends; society is constantly being reshaped by external and internal circumstances.
    Right now, under the influence of fascist propaganda, this society has acquired the characteristics of a fascist state. Before that, under the influence of Soviet propaganda, it had Soviet characteristics. This means it will continue to change under the influence of influencing factors. The author is either a lousy sociologist or an agent of external influence, already shaping our society with fascist characteristics that are categorically alien to the Russian people.
  23. 0
    29 October 2025 16: 19
    An interethnic war in Ukraine became inevitable. And so it began. Initially, in the form of several "Maidans," and then, since 2014, in full-blown form.

    Even I, not a historian, can see that everything presented here is the fruit of a new history, mixed with Western history and the story of the Varangians' arrival on Russian soil to rule it. Apparently, another grant from Gayropa, Soros, or whoever else.
    History
    1. During WWII, everyone, including children, fought against the Nazis in Ukraine. Even in western Ukraine, not everyone was a Banderite. The memoirs of Medvedev, Vershigora, and others serve as examples of this.
    2. The dividing line between Westerners and Russians living in Ukraine runs not from 2014 or the 12th-19th centuries, but from Khrushchev's decree, which released Banderovites from the camps and granted them a full amnesty. It was from this moment that the Banderists' infiltration of all Ukrainian power structures began, which resulted in a bloodbath following the Banderov coup in 2014.
    3. Before the early 19th century and the advent of the language, residents of western Ukraine spoke Russian. The language is a recent invention, also introduced in Ukraine by the Bolsheviks.
    4. Hitler needed only 5-6 years to transform Germans into Nazis and fascists. In Ukraine, using new technologies, it took only 2-3 years to transform Russians into Ukrainians and Bandar-logs.
    5. The Maidan uprisings in Ukraine after its independence were not interethnic or interfaith conflicts, but rather color revolutions, fomented by the West along the entire perimeter of Russia's outskirts. Preparations for the Maidan uprisings began immediately after Ukraine's independence. If you go back 30 years, you can read about the establishment of militant training camps in Poland.
    Summary:
    1. The war in Ukraine has nothing to do with interethnic conflict. This war is the result of the activities of Western intelligence agencies in Ukraine, their installation of Bandar-logs in power and the transformation of the Ukrainian state into a fascist "404" state with Nazi ideology, which has been instilled for two generations. The use of modern mind control techniques has quickly transformed the majority of Ukrainians into Bandar-logs who hate the Muscovites.
    2. On the other hand, even those Ukrainians who have been converted into Bandar-logs understand that State 404 is not their state, it is not their homeland. That's why everyone who can flees Ukraine.
    So, don’t try to brainwash us with ideas about interethnic war.
    The war in Ukraine is a war between the West and Russia, against the Russian world. The other thing is that this war is being perpetrated by Russians living in Ukraine. And that's the saddest thing.
  24. 0
    29 October 2025 17: 10
    Quote: kalibr
    Quote: paul3390
    What kind of Master is this? It's offensive and beneath you to even obey such a one. Take the Germans, the Poles, the Anglo-Saxons—those are the real Masters, obeying them is sweet and pleasant. But the Russians—no. That's where the real roots of hatred come from.

    Well said, Pavel. Remember Pushkin's "Boris Godunov" - "No, the people feel no mercy: Do good - they will not say thank you; Rob and execute - you will not be worse off."

    Well, it varies... Apparently, it also depends on the people. Before and during World War II, the Japanese "plundered and executed" everyone around them, so now it's like shameful wolves - attitude.
  25. -1
    29 October 2025 19: 32
    Well, let's assume everything written here is real. One question: why then didn't something similar happen with Belarus as a whole?
  26. 0
    29 October 2025 23: 05
    Almost everything is correct. However, the migration of Russians to Ukraine and Ukrainians to Russia is not connected to any hatred or ideology. People went where life was simply better and richer. And then there's the TV dumbing down. And then there are the Banderites from western Ukraine, who have a different mentality from the Easterners and a different religion. The author hasn't yet addressed the difference between Russians in Ukraine and Russian-speakers, who aren't necessarily Russian, but are mostly Ukrainians whose grandfathers or great-grandfathers spoke Ukrainian and lived with a Ukrainian, often rural, mentality. This is indeed significant. However, in modern Ukrainian pre-Banderite society, at least on the left bank, the issue of language between people was of little importance. Within a single family, they could speak two languages ​​and it was no big deal.
  27. 0
    29 October 2025 23: 37
    Language is what defines the identity of humans.
    To give up and deny your native language means that you also give up your roots and identity and try to assume a new identity.

    But to speak a language and hate that language is deeply schizophrenic and eventually leads to irreconcilable internal contradictions.
    The Ukraine has 5 ethnicities and they are stuck with their cultures to this day.
    The majority ethnicity is Russian. The Nazi ideology is deeply rooted in Western Galicia.
    Only the dissolution of the Ukraine is a long term solution.

    Czechoslovakia was so much more educated in 1991 than the Ukraine. Even though they were much smaller and less diverse and had no cultural hatred for each other they divorced civilly.
    Czechs wanted to be as German as possible as quickly. Slovaks wanted to keep their Slavic roots and were happy geographically where they were.
    But this is the exception. Yugoslavia and the Ukraine is the norm. New states only ever are created through violent conflict - even Switzerland.
    And Switzerland is the one country that has enabled prosperity despite having 3(4) very distinct ethnicities: Germans, French, Italian.
    The trick is direct democracy and the subsidiarity principle as a Confederation of Regions=Cantons that can leave the Confederation at any time just with one referendum.

    It is impossible for others to see the benefit of such a system- so peaceful divorce like Czechoslovakia seems the best solution.
    Czechoslovakia was lucky to have two giants as leaders in 1991 and was also lucky because the EU and the US were too busy to watch. Imperial structures hate when countries split up peacefully.
    1. 0
      30 October 2025 10: 57
      This is just a translation

      Language is what defines people's identity.
      Giving up your native language means that you are also giving up your roots and identity and trying to find a new identity.

      But speaking a language and hating that language is a profound schizophrenia that ultimately leads to irreconcilable internal contradictions.
      There are 5 nationalities in Ukraine, and they still maintain their culture.
      The majority of the population is Russian. Nazi ideology is deeply rooted in Western Galicia.
      Only the disintegration of Ukraine is a long-term solution.

      In 1991, Czechoslovakia was a much more educated country than Ukraine. Despite being much smaller and less diverse, and lacking cultural hatred for each other, they divorced in a civilized manner.
      The Czechs wanted to become Germans as quickly as possible. The Slovaks wanted to preserve their Slavic roots and were geographically happy where they were.
      But that's the exception. Yugoslavia and Ukraine are the norm. New states are always created only as a result of violent conflict—even Switzerland.
      And Switzerland is the only country that has achieved prosperity despite the fact that it is home to 3 (4) very different ethnic groups: Germans, French, Italians.
      The trick lies in direct democracy and the principle of subsidiarity, since it is a Confederation of regions=cantons that can leave the Confederation at any time by holding just one referendum.

      Others cannot see the benefit of such a system, so an amicable divorce, similar to the one in Czechoslovakia, seems to be the best solution.
      Czechoslovakia was lucky to have two giants at its helm in 1991, and also because the EU and the US were too busy to observe what was happening. Imperial structures hate it when countries disintegrate peacefully.
  28. -1
    29 October 2025 23: 51
    You don't need to delve into history to understand why Ukrainians have been fighting against Russia for over three years. Yes, propaganda plays a role. But it's not the only issue. The question is: what does Russia want in the Second World War? To liberate Ukraine or to destroy it? If liberate it, how can one liberate a country while denying its right to exist? Stalin, during the most terrible war, said: Hitlers come and go, but the German people remain. If the goal is to destroy Ukraine and Ukrainians, then one shouldn't be surprised that they will resist.
    1. 0
      30 October 2025 11: 02
      If you liberate, then how can you liberate a country by denying its right to exist?

      Only illiterate, radical, armchair patriots deny its right to exist. Our government and normal armchair experts don't deny Ukraine's existence. But only on the condition that Banderaism is absent, all nationalities and languages ​​are respected, and neutrality in relations with neighbors is maintained.
      1. 0
        30 October 2025 18: 33
        You can't liberate a country by making territorial claims against it. There's a difference between wars of liberation and wars of conquest.
    2. +1
      30 October 2025 23: 21
      What are you talking about? The Russian government has never declared the destruction of Ukraine! You're either an enemy or feeding off the Ukrainians.
  29. 0
    30 October 2025 09: 35
    Quote: Carmela

    Odessa is a multinational (or multiethnic, if you can call it that) city. People left for Canada, the Far East, and even China or Argentina.

    In this context, Odessa was simply a hub. And people with a zest for growth flocked there from all over the outskirts, hoping for large plots of land in the new world. There was even a term for it: "green wedge."
    However, time and the intermingling of newcomers and local nationalities have long since knocked the local idiocy out of the newcomers. If it ever existed. Accents and lingo are occasionally encountered, as are toponymic names and a love of lard in the winter season.
  30. 0
    30 October 2025 23: 15
    True, but it clearly exaggerates the incorrigible hatred of Russians among all segments of Ukrainian society. I served with them in the army from 1972 to 1974. And the Westerners had a particularly strong anger. What struck me back then was the "Ukrainian patriotism" of Russians living in Ukraine. "UKRAINE FEEDS THEM"—that was the conviction. And everyone had a certain Ukrainian pride. They had normal relations with most of their conscripts, but not with all of them. Hatred of Russians had been nurtured and fueled in recent years; it smoldered. It was ignited, fortunately, because the soil was fertile.
    1. -1
      31 October 2025 10: 22
      I served in Ukraine in a tactical missile brigade in Kremenchuk. There were almost all nationalities, but the majority were Russians and Ukrainians. There were no interethnic disputes. The main thing was who you were and how you did things. The division was only between greenhorns and old hands, but without cruelty. In this regard, everything was fine because the educational level was higher than, say, that of motorized infantry or tank crews. We had Ukrainian drivers with an eighth-grade education, of whom there were many. The rest of the military specialties usually had an average education. We didn't have any Westerners because the unit was a missile unit, and the KGB didn't trust them. Arguments about who was feeding whom were unheard of; such a topic never arose. Conversations about where it was better to live did occur. The conclusion: Ukraine was richer and life was better there. Some from Russia stayed in Kremenchuk, especially since the Dnieper was conquered, the girls had the same breasts, and there were no problems with language or dialect. The city itself has a mixed, but predominantly Ukrainian, population.
  31. 0
    31 October 2025 17: 16
    Author, if we were talking about some hypothetical Ukraine from your fantasies, then yes. But the truth is, most active Nazis are from that very same Slabozhanshchina and Novorossiya. And the Westerners, in fact, have actively taken up skiing. Therefore, your conclusions are absolutely wrong.
  32. 0
    2 November 2025 10: 33
    It's not just Ukrainians who feel this way about the Russian Federation, to be fair) All the republics of the former USSR "love" us wildly, Belarusians don't really have any reason to hate us, but ask a Belarusian, he's one nation with Russians, you'll learn a lot about yourselves, and for Moldovans, due to the lack of common borders, it's simply inconvenient to hate us) The rest are just smarter than Ukrainians, they slowly draw grants and hate, but quietly)) Russians didn't always have time to escape from the Central Asian region in the 90s, some were beaten out, and some live... as second-class citizens, who's your brother? Transcaucasia also managed to cleanse its monoethnicity in the 90s, the Baltics most calmly squeezed out the USSR Armed Forces by 93, along with half the diaspora, and the other half that remains now considers themselves Latvians, Lithuanians, and Estonians, simply of Russian origin, plus they need capital, simpler people, and they should be paid less, and for this, you need to change the people a little, which is what is happening) Just think about what other country The world government is deliberately weakening its currency in order to pay less domestically and trade more foreignly (and for less).
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    2 November 2025 19: 09
    So, the pressing problem of the Russian people's survival is the total destruction of everything anti-Russian—outskirts of Svidomism, Polish gentry, European LGBTQ+ism, and American chauvinism. Where will we bury them all?