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On the basis of "Almaty", it will be possible to create a training tank

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In December 2012, Russian Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov announced that in 2014 the military department intends to place an order for the purchase of a pilot batch of 16 vehicles on the new Armata platform. On the basis of this batch, experimental military operation will take place. tanks. The current schedule stipulates that Uralvagonzavod will create the first prototype of the promising MBT by the end of 2013, and it will be possible to begin deliveries of new vehicles to the army already in 2015. The technical design of the Armata heavy unified tracked platform was approved in March 2012.


A new unified platform for heavy armored vehicles is being created to replace existing OBTs in the armies: T-72, T-80 and T-90 of various modifications. It is already known that a main battle tank, an armored personnel carrier, an infantry fighting vehicle, as well as various auxiliary tracked vehicles will be created on the basis of "Armata". MBT "Armata" will receive a fully digital SLA, as well as an isolated armored capsule for the crew. The turret of the new tank will be made uninhabitable.

Earlier on the radio station "Echo of Moscow" CEO of "Uralvagonzavod" Oleg Sienko said that the plant is also engaged in the creation of remote-controlled armored vehicles. Already in 2013, the company expects to partially demonstrate the individual capabilities of these combat vehicles, which can be controlled from the iPad or iPhone. Oleg Sienko noted that the engineering equipment with remote control at the enterprise had already been tested and satisfied with the results obtained.
On the basis of "Almaty", it will be possible to create a training tank

It is assumed that the MBT from the Armata family will significantly surpass all combat vehicles in this class. Perhaps there will be a qualitative leap, which Russian tankers have been waiting for about 20 years. At the same time, a new, significantly increased price of equipment will most likely require a higher level of personnel training, as well as maintenance and operation. Therefore, along with the new tank, modern means of personnel training will be massively delivered to combat units: training manuals, simulators and mock-ups.

It is known that even the most modern electronic simulators cannot completely replace the work in a real tank. On the other hand, to give for learning (“to kill”) a modern MBT worth hundreds of millions of rubles is not the right decision from an economic point of view. At present, in the Russian army, in the role of training tanks, old models of cars are widely used, for example, the T-72, released back in the 70 of the last century. These tanks, soldiers-conscripts mercilessly drive on the tankdromes until they fully use up the service life, after which they are sent for recycling. The benefit of the USSR inherited a huge number of tanks from Russia.

Also in Russia quite actively for the training of crews of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are used a variety of dynamic simulators. Dynamic simulators for the crews of the T-72 and T-90 tanks, which are a training tool for training the combat skills of the gunner operator, the commander and the driver in the classroom, are widely used. These simulators include tank crew jobs, mounted on a special dynamic platform, as well as an instructor's workplace.
HTV-64 - running driving simulator

The use of training simulators for tank crews allows reducing the time and cost of training mechanics-drivers, gunners and commanders of the OBT, as well as reducing the consumption of fuel and lubricants, the service life of tanks, and ammunition in educational institutions and training units of the troops. Modern simulators provide the effect of presence, which occurs in the learning process. This allows us to achieve a maximum approximation of the training conditions to the working conditions of a real tank crew. Modern cabins of the trainee completely imitate the workplace of the tank driver as regards the placement of viewing and instrumentation, controls, forces and moves on the tank controls.

However, no matter how realistic simulators are, they cannot completely replace training on a real tank. If we talk about OBT "Armata", then the new combat vehicle of the ground forces because of its novelty (accommodation of the crew in a separate armored vehicle, the use of a new transmission, new controls and control devices) will require new teaching aids. The stocks inherited from the USSR equipment will not help here.

For quite a long time in the USSR and abroad, experience was used in the creation of running simulators for tank driver mechanics. For example, in the Bundeswehr, such cars began to be created in those years when the Leopard-1 tank was adopted by the German army. At the end of the 1970-s with the introduction of the German army MBT "Leopard-2" German designers did not abandon this idea and developed running simulators for training future tank crews.
Undercarriage driving simulator based on the tank "Leopard-2"

Similar work was carried out not only in the Federal Republic of Germany, but also in the GDR. Where running simulators were created on the basis of the Soviet tank T-72. In turn, the USSR engaged in these works a little later than abroad, but managed to create a whole family of driving simulators (HTV) - HTV-55, HTV-64, HTV-72 and HTV-80. At the same time, a simulator of a tank gun was available only on the HTV-64 model, it was absent on other training tanks. The collapse of the USSR stopped the work that was carried out in this area, they did not receive further development. And there was no special need for this. Thousands of tanks accumulated on the bases of storage of military equipment, which in principle could not be pitied.

Only in Kurgan a new chassis simulator of the BMP-3 driver was created, since this enterprise produced them in large quantities for export. This simulator was designed to work out the driving skills of the BMP-3, as well as the machines built on its base, at any time of the day, on land and afloat, with the possibility of an instructor interfering with the learner’s actions. The running simulator was equipped with a cabin, as well as all the necessary equipment: built-in dozer equipment, automatic fire extinguishing system in the engine compartment, internal and external communications, an additional heater.

It is likely that something similar will be done on the basis of the Armata platform, which should become the basis for all heavy tracked combat vehicles. Since the tank will be training, its cost can be significantly reduced. On the training tank there is no need for dynamic protection, multi-layered armor, gun, full-fledged SLA. Features of the layout of the new tank (placement of the crew in the capsule) is a great benefit for the training of tankers, as the instructor sitting next to the driver-mechanic will be able to better control the learning process. In the same capsule it will be possible to equip training places for other tank crew members. At the same time, electronic consoles that imitate the target situation can be embedded in the mock-ups of sights. In this case, the learner could see in the sights a variety of purposes.
T-72B Dynamic Crew Trainer

To increase the realism of the learning process, new running simulators could be equipped with laser simulators of firing and destruction, which would allow playing full-fledged bilateral tactical exercises between units. All this would play a positive role in the training of tank crews, saving the resource of combat vehicles and increasing the safety of training. So, the likelihood that training tanks on the base of “Almaty” will appear at Russian landfills and tank divisions can be considered non-zero, such tanks can really be needed.

Information sources:
- http://lenta.ru/news/2013/03/15/armata
- http://www.vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-4409.htm
- http://muromteplovoz.ru/product/sim_t72e.php
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 25 2013 07: 59
    +2
    It seems there has already been such an article?
  2. 11 black
    11 black April 25 2013 09: 19
    16
    Yes, damn it already create at least something on the basis of Almaty, I really want to see wink and simulators are certainly needed - even the most modern and powerful tank will be easy prey for the enemy if an inexperienced crew is put there. By the way, recently a picture appeared on the network - it seems that we are really creating something grand ...
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks April 25 2013 10: 34
      0
      but I like it, everyone says, no one knows anything, intrigue, remember how many rumors and conversations were around T-95. The main thing that would turn out, the rest is all spray.
      1. During
        During April 25 2013 11: 41
        0
        What is the T-95? there wasn’t such a thing ... can you say about Object 195?
        1. Retx
          Retx April 25 2013 13: 24
          -2
          It is the same.
          1. During
            During April 26 2013 10: 19
            -2
            The T-95 index (with reference to the tanks of the Russian army) does not appear anywhere except the yellow newspapers, this is the designation of an American super-heavy tank ... so the difference is huge.
            1. Retx
              Retx April 26 2013 11: 27
              -1
              T-95 is the designation in the media for "object-195", invented by them. It has gone to the masses and now if someone talks about the T-95 he means the "Object 195", and not the godforsaken tank of the US Army.
              1. During
                During April 26 2013 12: 15
                -2
                Since when do the media issue weapons indexes? And what right do they have in general to give these indices to equipment not even put into service? AND? Yes, no ... And all over the world, the T-95 is precisely an American heavy tank and only an uninformed person will call it "the forgotten tank of the US Army". For this is a landmark example in the history of world tank building. And you wish, if you want to express yourself correctly, forget about the "T-95" ... The media have hung on your ears.
                1. Retx
                  Retx April 26 2013 13: 06
                  -1
                  Heh, you play WoT, right? smile The media did not give the index, it voiced it either from the factory, or from the military department and went off.
                  Okay, for that matter, then T-95 is a tractor (which is clearly more than 2 copies), but the T95 is, as you put it, "a landmark model in the history of tank building." It is like "a gopher known to all", only among the same gophers. I also wish you, do not be so critical of people, many absolutely do not care what the difference is between the T-34 and T34, as well as what indexes, names, nicknames this technique has in the walls of the design bureau and factories.
                  1. During
                    During April 26 2013 13: 23
                    -1
                    You are mistaken, I do not play WoT. And the index did not rise anywhere except as journalists ... not a single competent person (especially from the Moscow region), even if you think logically, can call "Object 195" a T-95 tank, just like call "Armata" T -99 ... there is no order for adoption, no index ... think about it.
    2. Nova
      Nova April 25 2013 10: 41
      +1
      Isn't this a 3D model of the Black Eagle?
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 April 25 2013 13: 02
        +3
        Quote: Nova
        Isn't this a 3D model of the Black Eagle?

        Yes, this is it. "Object 640", nicknamed "Black Eagle" ... A distinctive feature (visual) - a seven-roll suspension ...

        "640 Object"
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr April 27 2013 00: 52
          +1
          Quote: Chicot 1
          Yes, this is it. "Object 640", nicknamed "Black Eagle" ... A distinctive feature (visual) - a seven-roll suspension ...
          The "Black Eagle" has all its ammunition in the turret, and UVZ supporters of the ammunition in the hull. In the photo, the turret niche is narrow, the ammunition load will not fit in it, only the automatic loader.

          "Black Eagle"
      2. 11 black
        11 black April 25 2013 13: 10
        +1
        Quote: Nova
        Isn't this a 3D model of the Black Eagle?

        Exactly so, but according to the statements made by the 195 object and the 640 object, they will be actively used in the creation of reinforcement, and the tower of this model differs from the Oryol one.
    3. Pacifist
      Pacifist April 25 2013 11: 47
      +3
      I share your impatience drinks
      The very one already has an acute attack of curiosity with the syndrome of the child from whom the gift was hidden laughing
    4. bereg
      bereg April 25 2013 13: 01
      -1
      Nevertheless, 30mm anti-aircraft guns should be put on the armature. the machine gun has not been quoted for a long time, for another year you’ll definitely be wondering what will happen
    5. JackTheRipper
      JackTheRipper April 25 2013 16: 57
      0
      It looks outwardly beautiful, but modern ATGMs are capable of hitting a tank from above with an impact core, see:

      1. 11 black
        11 black April 25 2013 17: 24
        0
        Well, there is an active defense for this, at least there should be an arena, but I would like something more modern ... look
        1. Diesel
          Diesel April 25 2013 17: 44
          +1
          The missile didn’t even hit, they detonated the tank remotely for display.
        2. harrymur
          harrymur April 25 2013 20: 44
          +1
          as if I admit that the sucker in armored vehicles, from my knowledge, realized that tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, when they enter the zone of destruction of enemy-NATO birds, live for no more than 15 minutes, respectively, and the NATO’s life is the same, therefore they’ll only make ammunition shot)), maybe just some new tactics of application worked out for these pieces of iron, any crap with a gun on the tracks, this is the priority goal of any soldier, and its survivability enhancer in modern conditions on the battlefield and against NATO, others are not a decree to us, the subject is quite interesting, can removable armor panels, etc., but not nariks to drive armature in the mountains in the end))
        3. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr April 27 2013 19: 45
          0
          Quote: 11 black
          Well, there is an active defense for this, at least there should be an arena, but I would like something more modern ... look

          "......" Basalt "began to develop a new grenade launcher in 2007. It was conceived as a response to modern serial complexes of active protection of tanks such as the Israeli Trophy and Iron Fist systems, as well as the Russian" Arena ". This technique is capable of shooting down grenades and rockets approaching the tank.
          “The Hook fires two rocket launchers at once. The first is an imitator that triggers the active protection of the tank, followed by the main grenade of 105 mm caliber, like the previous version of the RPG-29 Vampire, an officer of the Ministry of Defense explained to Izvestia.
          ___ The simulator is fired from an additional barrel located above the main one. RPG-30 surpasses RPG-29 in compactness - the length is just over 1 m versus almost 2 m ........ "
          http://izvestia.ru/news/549448#ixzz2RaPbIEhS
      2. TS3sta3
        TS3sta3 April 25 2013 17: 34
        +2
        more like an advertisement for the pentagon than a real test.
      3. Saburov
        Saburov April 25 2013 23: 03
        +3
        Apparently you didn’t serve in the army, in this video they put explosives into the tank and blew up the guns at the moment of the approach, I took part in 3 companies, started from the battalion, saw everything and how the tanks were blown up at three connected 152mm land mines, but I didn’t see such a show, and 152mm this bundle will be more serious.
        1. 11 black
          11 black April 27 2013 18: 42
          0
          Quote: Saburov
          Apparently you didn’t serve in the army, in this video they put explosives into the tank and blew up the guns at the moment of the approach, I took part in 3 companies, started from the battalion, saw everything and how the tanks were blown up at three connected 152mm land mines, but I didn’t see such a show, and 152mm this bundle will be more serious.

          and so it’s that - I thought the amers got a new ammunition that hits the roof with a cumulative jet from such a distance (I understand that this is nonsense ...), but it turned out that Hollywood worked laughing
    6. pinachet
      pinachet April 25 2013 20: 11
      +1
      this is a photo of a black eagle. a native of 90xx. created in Omsk, did not take into service, but the experience and units went into the armature.
    7. Mohomax
      Mohomax April 26 2013 22: 16
      +1
      He looks simply gorgeous, he would be glad to write an article without a word, so that it would be more realistic to train on a real tank than on a simulator. Waiting for this wonderful tank. I think that it will not only meet our expectations, but will also exceed.
  3. mox
    mox April 25 2013 09: 57
    -3
    There will be, will be, will be ... communism, to everyone an apartment, ARMATA.
    WHEN?
  4. Canep
    Canep April 25 2013 10: 18
    +4
    "Armata" itself has not yet been brought to mind, but we are already creating something on its basis.
  5. MEWTWO
    MEWTWO April 25 2013 10: 27
    +1
    US Army Future Combat System 40ton Prototype Tank
    1. Nova
      Nova April 25 2013 10: 47
      0
      This is an old project, if I remember correctly - already stopped.
      1. MEWTWO
        MEWTWO April 25 2013 11: 15
        0
        No work
      2. MEWTWO
        MEWTWO April 25 2013 11: 16
        0
        the army never stops working russian or american
  6. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt April 25 2013 10: 54
    0
    HTV based on LEopard as in Photoshop done, by golly request
    1. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt April 25 2013 13: 44
      -1
      Minus?? what
      Okay, minus - so minus request
  7. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 11: 24
    +1
    The new army, you need a new weapon, and in abundance and a reserve that would be!
  8. egor1974
    egor1974 April 25 2013 11: 25
    +3
    Fortunately, a huge number of tanks inherited from Russia in the legacy of the USSR. But it’s time to ban this wrecking phrase.
  9. ed65b
    ed65b April 25 2013 12: 31
    +4
    And where is the base is Almaty, show something in the metal. And then they planned both the training tank and MBT and everything else. Not a bit redhead runs there ???? Maybe it already exists, only Nano ????
  10. vadson
    vadson April 25 2013 12: 56
    +4
    yes, it wouldn’t work like amers with f35, on the same platform but rare crap
    we’ll look for the armature rolled out
  11. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay April 25 2013 12: 56
    +3
    Perhaps, perhaps, pictures of unknown artists are also supposed. Maybe it’s not worth it in vain to shake the air? Will there be a thing in metal then we will discuss?
  12. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 April 25 2013 13: 13
    +1
    They intend to do both MBT and armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles and engineering vehicles ... But is it really impossible in this and concrete case to prioritize, giving preference to the more important and necessary? ..
    In my opinion, the troops most of all need MBT. So they should be manufactured first and foremost ... Maybe you should pay attention to a heavy infantry fighting vehicle, which in the future can take on the functions of an infantry fighting vehicle (tank support vehicle) ... There’s no need to change the abbreviation here .. .
    But a heavy armored personnel carrier can be made on the basis of obsolete tanks. Do the same with engineering machines. Moreover, there are not so few of them (IM) already made ...
    1. Skuto
      Skuto April 25 2013 13: 23
      +1
      there should be a unification of spare parts between machines, not a zoo.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 April 25 2013 15: 12
        +1
        Quote: Skuto
        there should be a unification of spare parts between machines, not a zoo.


        Quote: Chicot 1
        In my opinion, the troops most of all need MBT.

        That's when the entire fleet of T-72, T-80 and T-90 in full force will be replaced by the T-99 "Priority" (or whatever the MBT will be called on the basis of "Armata"), then it will be possible to think about unification of the heavy armored vehicles ...
  13. Ruslan Bear
    Ruslan Bear April 25 2013 14: 13
    +2
    I wonder how many in general will buy new tanks?
  14. krpmlws
    krpmlws April 25 2013 14: 57
    +2
    It would be nice to equip Armata with all possible mincemeat, otherwise we have an unpleasant tradition to save money where it is not necessary. I am waiting for active protection installed in series on Armata, dynamic protection without open zones and everything else.
    1. USNik
      USNik April 25 2013 16: 23
      +2
      The "bells and whistles" are good, and there will be a lot of them on the Armat. But there is a possibility that it will be like Chryantzof's with their Leclerc. It seems like the tank uuuh is stuffed with various highly complex pribluds, but at the parade they are all turned off on purpose so that the MBT does not get stuck in the middle of the square ...
  15. WIN969
    WIN969 April 25 2013 15: 21
    +1

    I think this tank is no worse smile
  16. ed1968
    ed1968 April 25 2013 16: 18
    +3
    first you need to complete the armature itself and show it in all its glory and only then guess what to create on its base and what is not for two hares, you’ll catch not one
  17. Ak 12
    Ak 12 April 25 2013 18: 45
    +1
    A training tank is good, otherwise a tanker will not feel himself completely in a tank on computer simulators
    1. ed1968
      ed1968 April 25 2013 18: 49
      -2
      no bad wassat without good, but a bunch of nerds in tank troops will reach into such a toy to play the number of draftees in military enlistment offices will immediately rush up
  18. uzer 13
    uzer 13 April 25 2013 21: 50
    0
    A real prototype of such a tank could have been made about 20 years ago. Even without modern electronics, it was possible to make a box, work out the layout and operation of the mechanisms. It is not very clear what the designers were doing all this time.
  19. waisson
    waisson April 25 2013 22: 40
    0
    we built and finally decided we didn’t have a fighting machine so let it be a training simulator there are no words in the age of computer technology not with a pencil as before. so what have the designers been doing all these years. who should eat bread in vain
  20. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 26 2013 02: 18
    0
    The tower without a crew is the main advantage I consider. The life of a fighter should come first. Is it possible to spend the night inside the tank, I wonder, is it provided? And then, in the German "Tiger" I remember that the tower allowed.