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Russia helps to teach foreign military

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During the last week it became known about several international projects involving Russia. In the near future, our country will begin to cooperate with several friendly states in the field of training the personnel of the armed forces, and with several already it carries out such activities. Training centers with Russian participation will work in the countries of Southeast Asia and Latin America. Their task will be the training of soldiers and officers of the ground forces, air forces and naval forces of several states.


Foreign cadets are marching according to their rules. Issue RVDKU


Earlier, the highest circles of the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that Russia would help Vietnam in the construction of its underwater fleet. Then, such statements concerned only the construction and supply of submarines for the Vietnamese Navy. Now, Interfax-AVN, citing a source in Russian shipbuilding, writes that cooperation between Russia and Vietnam concerns not only the construction of submarines themselves, but also facilities for training their future crews. According to the source, two buildings have already been built, which will house a new training center, and now finishing work, laying of communications, etc. It also became known that in one of the buildings of the center they will install the equipment necessary for training sailors in the struggle for survivability and the use of rescue equipment. In the second building, it is planned to mount a certain complex simulator, first supplied by Russia.

The exact composition of the equipment of the new training center was not named for obvious reasons. At the same time, it is known that the project of the center was created in the NGO Aurora. This enterprise also produces the necessary equipment. Also, information was received in open access, according to which soon, with the start of installation of equipment, Vietnamese instructors and teachers, who are currently completing their studies in Russia, will start working at the center. Installation and commissioning of the equipment will be carried out jointly by Russian and Vietnamese experts. Specific dates for starting a new training center have not yet been announced.

Another similar international contract will unite the efforts of Russia and India. The latter is preparing to put into operation a new aircraft carrier “Vikramaditya” with a group of MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB aircraft and therefore intends to deploy mass training of deck pilots. Last Saturday, MiG RSK and the Indian Ministry of Defense signed an agreement on joint training of deck pilots aviation. The first phase of pilot training will begin a few months before the transfer of the aircraft carrier to the customer. Further, after the transition of Vikramaditya to its new base, the second stage starts. First, future pilots of deck aviation will study in Russia, and then they will go to their homeland, where they graduate.

Already, experts from both countries are building a training complex in India, where pilots will undergo the second part of the training. According to S. Korotkov, Director General of RAC "MiG", along with the aircraft carrier this year India will receive four deck fighters. Thus, the total number of deck Migovs in the Indian Air Force will be 24 units. After all the existing contracts have been completed, the number of MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB will increase approximately two times. In this connection, it is planned to start a joint pilot training project.

While Russian, Vietnamese and Indian specialists are only working on the creation of two training centers, another similar facility was opened in Nicaragua. During the recent official visit of the Russian delegation in this country, the opening ceremony of the Armed Forces Training Center took place. When the brigade named after General Augusto Cesar Sandino, an educational center of the Army named after GK was opened. Zhukov. The new center was built with the active assistance of Russian specialists, who took upon themselves the development and production of most of the equipment. In particular, the Training Center is equipped with several computer classes, target fields and simulators of various types.

The opening ceremony was attended by the head of the Russian delegation, Chief of the General Staff V. Gerasimov. He noted the symbolism of the names of the land brigade and training center. And A.S. Sandino, and G.K. Zhukov, he said, were the real patriots of their countries and did everything possible to protect their homelands.

Another joint Russian-Nicaraguan project aims not to train specialists, but to dispose of ammunition. The Russian delegation also visited the opening of the new plant, which will be destroyed old shells. In the coming years, it is planned to dispose of at least 900 tons of artillery ammunition with expired shelf life. To extract fuses from projectiles of all types, a special platform has been equipped located at a distance from the main workshop. Recyclable shells will become a source of scrap metal, including non-ferrous, as well as explosives for industrial needs. Now explosives for the mining industry are purchased abroad, and in the future, the Nicaraguan government hopes to close this niche through the disposal of ammunition.

It should be noted that Russian specialists took an active part in the construction of the recycling plant. Our country has extensive experience in the destruction and processing of artillery shells. Specialists of the Mikhailovsky Artillery Academy took part in the development of production and training of Nicaraguan specialists who will operate equipment received from Russia.

During the Latin American tour, the Russian delegation also visited Cuba, but from there there were no reports of new treaties in the field of military-technical cooperation. Russian military and government officials visited several facilities of the Cuban armed forces, laid wreaths at the memorial of the country's heroes, and also took part in international negotiations with representatives of the Cuban military department. Nothing is known about the signing of new international agreements, but there is every reason to believe that such news will appear very soon. It may be confirmed by information according to which Cuba and Russia plan to engage in the reconstruction of the H. Marty Airport in Havana and make a full-fledged international hub out of it.

The latest news confirms the fact that Russia is capable of exporting not only finished equipment, but also to benefit from participating in international military-technical projects. The creation of training centers in Vietnam and Nicaragua, as well as the construction of a plant for the disposal of ammunition may well be the first steps in expanding the scope of cooperation with these states. Vietnam, Nicaragua and Cuba are actively developing and therefore are of great commercial interest for Russian and foreign organizations. India can be attributed to developed countries, because of what it turns out to be a no less attractive client for defense enterprises.


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  1. ATATA
    ATATA April 25 2013 08: 02 New
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    It is necessary to begin their training with drill training.
    For:
    "Drill training, being one of the main disciplines of military education and training, instills in soldiers the accuracy, fit and beauty of movements, develops endurance, combat training, exemplary appearance. It contributes to the strengthening of military discipline, develops the habit of acting strictly according to the charter, and to feel personal responsibility for the exact execution of commands, orders and instructions of the commander."
    And then look disgusting.
    1. urich
      urich April 25 2013 15: 39 New
      +3
      I definitely strained with the drill ... But the Berets have already trained to wear them laughing Already not a hat and cap. These guys can and will walk with their overseas marching step, maybe in their country they can take red or green berets, but for the rest of their lives they will be proud of the blue beret of the airborne forces.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 25 2013 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: ATATA
      It is necessary to begin their training with drill training.
      .

      Well I do not know. In AOI there was never drill training.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 23: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well I do not know. In AOI there was never drill training.

        Understand and believe the Africans are fighting worse than the Arabs ..... Look at a couple of videos with the battles in the city, the horror is simple, they stand in the open, AKs are kept horrible, sometimes they are right in line on the alley. So the discipline does not hurt them .......
        1. Hektor
          Hektor 28 June 2013 19: 25 New
          +1
          yes ... Oreste Baratieri would not agree with you what
    3. Metlik
      Metlik April 26 2013 07: 38 New
      0
      In a combat situation, a person may refuse to obey orders, to frighten. Therefore, automatic submission to the order is trained.
      At the same time, the Mujahideen never had a drill, but hardly anyone would call the Afghans bad soldiers. I think that patriotic education, moral preparation would be better than practicing the ceremonial step.
    4. Leisure
      Leisure April 28 2013 18: 33 New
      -2
      How to connect the exact execution of the order and drill?
      The combatant in our time, is that conscripts should be busy with something and not stagger idle.
      A relic of the past, like footcloths, an overcoat and a powdered wig.
  2. radio operator
    radio operator April 25 2013 08: 19 New
    +7
    Recent news confirms the fact that Russia is able to export not only finished equipment, but also benefit from participating in international projects of a military-technical nature.

    Great news! The military we have learned will subsequently be our allies.
    1. Romn
      Romn April 25 2013 08: 24 New
      +6
      They will subsequently be our agents, spies and simply Haaaroshim friends smile
    2. SIT
      SIT April 25 2013 17: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: radio operator
      The military we have learned will subsequently be our allies.

      The Chinese have studied with us immeasurably. The son of Chiang Kai-shek Jiang Jingo joined the Kuomintang party in 1925 and went to study in the Soviet Union, where he lived for twelve years in Sverdlovsk and was known by many under the Russian name Kolya Elizarov. While in the USSR, in 1935 he married a Belarusian girl Faina Vakhreva (her Chinese name is Jiang Fanlyan). She still lives in China.
  3. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 25 2013 09: 10 New
    20
    Offset, and if ever ... American blacks in the form of Russian Airborne Forces on August 2 in Washington good It probably comes in Clintonsha and Bush's nightmares lol
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil April 25 2013 09: 40 New
      +7
      I confirm that I myself saw from Ryazan soldier
      1. Akim
        Akim April 25 2013 10: 35 New
        +5
        In Odessa, a Negro paratrooper studied at the aeromobile faculty. Although by nationality, the Ukrainian was so cool to look at him when he is in a blue beret.
  4. Rim-roev
    Rim-roev April 25 2013 10: 01 New
    -4
    He served for three years, and no one taught me anything, all by himself. And these limpopos and even more so will not be taught anything, I can’t even imagine what it will look like, they will also beat an ass in the ass with parachute laying)) or stand all day apple trees and pears blossomed on a patchwork drill and marching a hundred races with a song) Or they will teach you how to properly conduct TO1 for BMD2, no one in the world knows and does not suspect that the BMD tracks need to be painted with shoe cream .--- -
  5. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 25 2013 10: 26 New
    +3
    our instructors have a lot to learn, in 2012 I had a chance to talk with one of the retired naval special forces of the Northern Fleet, graduated from Ryazan and trained in the town of Ostrovnoy, Murmansk region. Gentlemen, what kind of SEALs are there, these are Lyuli killing machines, by the way, SEAL is formed from "wild geese", and our all career soldiers, that's such a fucking difference
  6. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 10: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Romn
    They will subsequently be our agents, spies and simply Haaaroshim friends smile

    If they are against us, they will not go with our skill!
  7. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 10: 53 New
    0
    Damn, the monkeys in Margelov’s berets and vests rite, fuuuuu ....
  8. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 10: 59 New
    -1
    Somehow I was at the "Shot", so I was walking through the territory, and I was going to meet ten blacks and all in different berets: yellow, red, blue, green ...
  9. knn54
    knn54 April 25 2013 14: 10 New
    +2
    Alexei: It is necessary to begin their training with drill training.
    You need to start with the Russian language so that the teams understand.
    Studying for export is one of the components of expanding cooperation with foreign countries, along with the supply of Russian weapons. And it helps to strengthen the authority of educational institutions of the Russian Federation and Russia itself as a whole.
  10. GodSaveAmerica
    GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 15: 09 New
    -10
    But who needs training from hungry looters (Russian soldiers)? Papuans or something? A proud country does not invite hungry looters for training. From them you can only learn drunkenness and looting;))))))
    1. SIT
      SIT April 25 2013 16: 48 New
      +8
      Quote: GodSaveAmerica
      But who needs training from hungry looters (Russian soldiers)? Papuans or something?

      From these Papuans trained in Ryazan, in the training center near Odessa, in the village of Pervomaisky in the Crimea, in 1975, the brave GI & marines rattled from Saigon, clinging to anything that could fly off helicopters.
    2. luka095
      luka095 April 25 2013 19: 37 New
      +3
      Yes, the "proud country" invites the well-fed for training. The chronicle filmed by trained Georgian soldiers in South Ossetia shows what these instructors taught!
    3. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 25 2013 20: 17 New
      +3
      Wow!!! What a kosher, fat troll !!! belay I hope the moderators leave it in the Red Book of Rare Plants !!!! laughing
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach April 25 2013 21: 42 New
        +1
        schёtt bByeri! I had to screech! crying
  11. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 15: 32 New
    +8
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    But who needs training from hungry looters (Russian soldiers)? Papuans or something? A proud country does not invite hungry looters for training. From them you can only learn drunkenness and looting;))))))

    I don’t understand you are Georgians or Americans, although what difference does it make, you are just ... oiled!
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 15: 45 New
      -9
      They proved that you are a cultured and educated person :)
  12. GodSaveAmerica
    GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 15: 53 New
    -11
    America had a plan for the destruction of the USSR. The plan worked perfectly. Now the turn of Russia. I know for sure that a new plan is in place. I can’t wait ... Russia is a prison of nations!
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks April 25 2013 16: 41 New
      10
      the key word was "was", and now Russia has a definite plan for the United States and Georgia, by the way, nobody asks this banana misunderstanding.
    2. SIT
      SIT April 25 2013 16: 43 New
      +8
      Quote: GodSaveAmerica
      America had a plan for the destruction of the USSR. The plan worked perfectly. Now the turn of Russia. I know for sure that a new plan is in place. I can’t wait ... Russia is a prison of nations!


      You tell this to your potions, who are a little less in Moscow than in Tbilisi. They will tear you like a Tuzik heating pad. Such a feeder they will never have anywhere else. Especially in the homeland.
      1. GodSaveAmerica
        GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 17: 15 New
        -6
        Throw them away like you did a couple of years ago. I will be glad.
        1. luka095
          luka095 April 25 2013 19: 41 New
          +3
          It seems that you are happy with the negative?
    3. combat192
      combat192 April 25 2013 18: 21 New
      +5
      You (your parents), a freak, were nursed by this "prison". And if not for this "prison" the Ottomans with the Persians would still have you in anal and mouth!
      1. GodSaveAmerica
        GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 18: 34 New
        -4
        Russia that did not rap us? We were slaves. Autocephaly, kingdom, language, territories were taken away. They arranged genocide in Abkhazia and drove out 300 thousand inhabitants from their native land.

        Russia is a prison of nations!
        1. luka095
          luka095 April 25 2013 19: 46 New
          +3
          Who are you? And who were you a slave to? In Russia? Do you study history only in one book?
          Was there no genocide in post-Soviet Georgia? And what did they do with the Azerbaijanis in their areas of residence, with the Armenians? Tell me.
          The fact that Russia is a prison of peoples is all your knowledge about it?
    4. luka095
      luka095 April 25 2013 19: 39 New
      0
      Are plans for destruction a sign of democracy? The main thing is to stick the label, "the prison of peoples".
      And what, thereby received indulgence for their actions?
  13. knn54
    knn54 April 25 2013 16: 55 New
    +7
    GodSaveAmerica: Russia is a prison of nations!
    "We must not cede our native land to an uncultured and pastless tribe that descended from the Caucasus Mountains" (Akhalgazrda Komunisti, 29.06.1989/14.04.1990/24.11.1989). "Wouldn't it be better if the Armenians returned to their land, and the Azerbaijanis multiplied on their land" ("Youth of Georgia" newspaper, 7.06.1989). "Should there be another Sumgait for the guest to go home, or what?" (ibid.). "It is the duty of the Ossetians to help Georgians achieve their national goals" (Literary Georgia, November 29.10.1989, XNUMX). "If the Ossetian ethnos is no longer satisfied with the complex of the national homeland that we have guaranteed on our land and it considers it impossible to continue to live in peace and friendship with the people, with whom, by the way, many civilized peoples of the world do not hesitate to make friends and cooperate, so good luck to them on their national homeland "(" Tbilisi ", XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX). "The Ossetians have a newspaper, radio, magazine, theater, publishing house, institute, what else do they need? We must be grateful to the Georgian people for this, and they demand the protection of the Ossetian language and their national rights ... The Ossetian people are so ungrateful ... Enough betrayal towards Georgia in a difficult time for her "(" Literary Georgia ", October XNUMX, XNUMX).
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 17: 12 New
      -10
      Georgia did not conquer these lands. There was always Georgia. Read the story (http://www.amazon.com/Edge-Empires-A-History-Georgia/dp/1780230303). But the Russian occupants came and took the land. Nothing, refund.

      Russia is a prison of nations!
      1. Garrin
        Garrin April 25 2013 17: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: GodSaveAmerica
        Russia is a prison of nations!

        And then what about America? The international fan?
        1. GodSaveAmerica
          GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 17: 28 New
          -5
          And here is America? America is not a nation state.
          1. Garrin
            Garrin April 25 2013 18: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: GodSaveAmerica
            And here is America? America is not a nation state.

            Why? The Indians are still alive, though on reservations, but they live.
            1. GodSaveAmerica
              GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 18: 15 New
              -4
              These people are alive too !!!

              Ingushetia

              Chechnya

              Dagestan

              Kabardino-balkaria

              Karachay-Cherkessia

              Bashkortostan

              Tatarstan

              Adygea

              North ossetia

              Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug

              Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug
              Kalmykia

              Udmurtian republic

              Republic of altai
              1. combat192
                combat192 April 25 2013 18: 32 New
                +3
                Is that all oppressed? Have you seen how they live?
              2. luka095
                luka095 April 25 2013 19: 50 New
                +2
                And why didn’t you list all national entities?
                There, then, there is no oppression? Or do you know poorly the administrative-territorial structure of Russia?
                Then you are an unqualified expert, it turns out.
      2. combat192
        combat192 April 25 2013 18: 30 New
        +5
        Your "Jrogia" (self-name - Sakartvelo) is a conglomerate of more than 10 mountain tribes that never were friends with each other, or even fought. Actually Kartvel (Georgians) - less than 30% and their historical land is even less.
        Peace in Georgia was only when it was part of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union.
        Learn the story!
        1. GodSaveAmerica
          GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 18: 38 New
          -4
          My dear, read the story. http://www.amazon.com/Edge-Empires-A-History-Georgia/dp/1780230303
          this is the most neutral book about georgia
          1. luka095
            luka095 April 25 2013 19: 52 New
            +2
            And what, history should be taught only from neutral sources? And what does "neutral" mean? Indifferent?
      3. Pacifist
        Pacifist April 25 2013 18: 38 New
        +4
        Learn the story, ignoramus.
  14. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 16: 57 New
    +5
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    They proved that you are a cultured and educated person :)

    No, it was you 08.08.08 that you proved to be cultural people, and as for your minuses, I love Russia as much as you hate it, and vice versa I hate you more than you do me, but about your plans, you once turned to us Do you believe in yourself? And the fact that blacks live in Africa, they taught me at school! And I would not have touched you if we had not climbed into my impoverished Russia!
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 17: 25 New
      -6
      I am a Christian worldview. I love the Russian people. And I love you too, despite the fact that you hate me. You are a victim of the regime. Hopefully once Russia will become a democratic country. You will free yourself from propaganda and stop hating us.
      1. luka095
        luka095 April 25 2013 19: 32 New
        +2
        How easily you draw conclusions. Nobody can hate you - they don’t know you.
        Regarding the victims of the regime - I'm sorry, but these are unfounded statements.
        And by what patterns do you classify countries as democratic?
        Before advising someone to free themselves from propaganda - set an example yourself!
    2. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 17: 38 New
      -7
      [/ quote] And the fact that blacks live in Africa, they taught me at school! And I would not touch you if we did not climb into my impoverished Russia! [/ Quote]

      with modern, the word Papuans abstracted and began to mean low-civilized peoples.
      1. luka095
        luka095 April 25 2013 19: 54 New
        +3
        This is why the name of the indigenous population of N. Guinea means low civilized peoples? And who decides, low - medium or highly civilized? Who are the judges?
  15. knn54
    knn54 April 25 2013 18: 31 New
    +5
    GodSaveAmerica! Read the story.
    In 1783, a Russian protectorate was established over the Kartli-Kakheti kingdom (the central region of present-day Georgia). Then, as a result of the Russian-Iranian (1804–1813, 1826–1828) and Russian-Turkish (1806–1812, 1828–1829, 1878–1879) wars, territories were liberated that NEVER were part of the Kartli-Kakheti kingdom - Adjara , Guria, Svaneti, Mingrelia, Jvakhk.
    Mingrelia became part of Russia in 1857, and WASN’T been a part of the Tbilisi province. And the patronage (protectorate) of Russia in relation to the then de facto independent Mingrelian principality was established back in 1803 at the request of the ruling Mingrelian dynasty Dadiani. Mingrelian people have their own history, distinctive culture, alphabet, language.
    Adjara is a republic inhabited by a significant number of Lazs and Georgian Kartles, professing Islam.
    Highland Svans with a stretch can be called kindred to Georgians.
    A people related to the Chechens live in the Pankisi Gorge.
    Until August 26.08.08, 6, 55 (!) National territories and autonomies appeared in Georgia - Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Mengrelia, Javakhk, Borchaly, Adzharia. The area occupied by them amounted to MOST of Georgia - 35%, and the population - up to XNUMX%.
    Thus, there are no Georgians at all, but there are Kartlis who recognize themselves as Georgians (self-impostors), while other Georgians (Mengrels, etc.) do not consider themselves Georgians.
    But a Russian can be a Russian, like a Mordvin, a Chuvash .. They, without losing their ethnicity, recognize themselves to be involved in the Russian state.
    And if the inhabitants of Georgia do not recognize the commonality of the "Georgians", then there can be no "bright future" for Georgia, since the percentage of the "non-titular" population should not be more than 20.
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 18: 39 New
      -4
      My dear, read the story. http://www.amazon.com/Edge-Empires-A-History-Georgia/dp/1780230303
      this is the most neutral book about georgia
      1. luka095
        luka095 April 25 2013 19: 21 New
        +2
        Dear GodSaveAmerica, Are you sure that you need to learn history from only one book?
        1. GodSaveAmerica
          GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 19: 31 New
          -2
          Of course not,


          This is an objective book. It is written by an Englishman. The author has a good reputation. I don’t know other books in English - and I’m not interested in Russian books, because the reputation of Russian authors is under big questions.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 25 2013 19: 46 New
            +2
            The British took part in the "Great Game" against the Russian Empire in the Caucasus. So to consider their authors unbiased is a huge nonsense.
  16. krpmlws
    krpmlws April 25 2013 18: 35 New
    +2
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    I am a Christian worldview. I love the Russian people. And I love you too, despite the fact that you hate me. You are a victim of the regime. Hopefully once Russia will become a democratic country. You will free yourself from propaganda and stop hating us.

    I don’t understand you Georgians, it’s like we are Christians, our neighbors have a long, heroic common history (Bagration alone is worth something). Why, how much of you are rushing this wild nationalism and hatred of Russia? Why do you cultivate hatred of Russia? so that the fate of the USSR befell it? What did the Russian people do wrong to you? Yes, there were different periods in our common history, sometimes it was difficult for the Russian and Georgian peoples, but it is necessary to solve problems together and further build a common future. Of course, in Georgia at present Russophobic propaganda is underway and it is probably difficult to be above all this filth, but if you are a self-sufficient, rational person, then you yourself must understand where ideological zombies are and where it is true. Here you are probably worried that the Russian Federation supports Abkhazia, Ossetia, but face the truth : what does Russia have to do in this situation? Abkhazia and Ossetia will be abandoned, but Georgia will immediately run to NATO and missile defense systems, NATO bases will be near the borders of Russia. The answer is obvious that Georgia will be a single country only then when it becomes an ally of Russia. Yes, and there is no other choice, neither you, nor we, just be together. But why Georgia needs the USA, can you imagine? Amers use all cynically and prudently, squeeze everyone out of Georgia and leave at the first Opportunities. Russia is completely different. Here Belarus receives loans at a preferential price and Belarusians live well, which is what I wish you!
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 19: 06 New
      -3
      I recall an old joke about the hunters of Chukchi and the Russian, when they share the prey and responds to the proposal of the Russian to share the Chukchi fraternally, let's not divide in half ...

      Once you live a man! We must live in a free country. Let the land be occupied, let there be problems, most importantly, that freedom was ..

      Therefore, I do not want a fraternal union with Russia.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 25 2013 19: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: GodSaveAmerica
        Therefore, I do not want a fraternal union with Russia.

        Conscience does not allow living at the expense of Russians? It's good.
      2. luka095
        luka095 April 25 2013 19: 27 New
        +1
        Of course, freedom is important. Only freedom from what? From other points of view other than yours?
        And who is imposing this fraternal union on you? Do not want - and do not.
        And more about freedom - your freedom ends where the freedom of another person begins.
        1. GodSaveAmerica
          GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 19: 34 New
          -2
          Ingushetia

          Chechnya

          Dagestan

          Kabardino-balkaria

          Why did the freedom of these peoples never begin?

          Karachay-Cherkessia

          Bashkortostan

          Tatarstan

          Adygea

          North ossetia

          Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug

          Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug
          Kalmykia

          Udmurtian republic

          Republic of altai
  17. Setevik
    Setevik April 25 2013 18: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    I love Russian people

    False....
    You cannot simultaneously speak with joy about the existence of a plan to destroy the Country of the people and love it (the people) ...
    This is a contradiction.

    You know, such love is not necessary. It is better to have an enemy than such a loving "friend" ...
  18. ed1968
    ed1968 April 25 2013 18: 44 New
    +2
    love he will not be Russia and there will be nobody to love so what is it about? fool
  19. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 19: 05 New
    +4
    You know, when I started reading the Military Review, I always thought it was a Russian site, for Russians who can leave comments on articles related to internal issues of Russia, but I was mistaken, a lot of offended people from the states of the former USSR constantly come out and try insert your rusty two pennies! Gentlemen, who hate the Union and Russia, please create your own websites and prove to each other how excellent you are, we know who you really are!
    P.S. And also "God bless America" ​​your nickname sounds like a big creep to this very America, and your ava, it is unlikely that America would ever put its mattress flag on the same level with the Georgian one, because you are just a way for it to prick Russia, but not partners!
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 19: 14 New
      -5
      They occupied the lands, staged the genocide and don’t even want to criticize, dear?
      1. Raven1972
        Raven1972 April 25 2013 21: 53 New
        +1
        Hear dear, you just look at the statistics by years, and look WHEN you had the maximum population growth ... All your life they hid behind Russian bayonets and lived for their pleasure .... And then tryndi here about the prison of peoples, genocide and other ** ***** ... And when once again the Turks will multiply you by zero - do not contact us anymore, you want freedom - eat and do not choke ...
        BEFORE TIME - NO FAITH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. GodSaveAmerica
    GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 19: 24 New
    -4
    Quote: Prapor Afonya

    P.S. And "God bless America" ​​your nickname sounds like a big creep to this very America


    I love America because America is a LAND OF PEOPLE! I pray that America has always been strong because America is a good half.
    1. harrymur
      harrymur April 25 2013 19: 46 New
      +2
      bijo picture of current that from under Tbilisi, we love you proud people
      1. GodSaveAmerica
        GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 20: 36 New
        -2
        Vot ishio odin hungry marauder :)))))))
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 25 2013 20: 39 New
          +1
          Exactly. And therefore you should follow your language.
  21. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 19: 44 New
    0
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    Quote: Prapor Afonya

    P.S. And "God bless America" ​​your nickname sounds like a big creep to this very America


    I love America because America is a LAND OF PEOPLE! I pray that America has always been strong because America is a good half.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!! I wish your kind America to come to Georgia to visit, as before it came to Iraq, Vietnam, etc.
  22. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 20: 16 New
    0
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    Damn, the monkeys in Margelov’s berets and vests rite, fuuuuu ....

    They removed my cons, but not the cons, I’m glad that I’m not the only one in Russia who believes that blacks have no right to wear berets and vests made by Vasily Filippovich for Russian soldiers!
  23. GEO
    GEO April 25 2013 20: 19 New
    +2
    People, do not mark the beads in front of the ungrateful pig.
  24. krpmlws
    krpmlws April 25 2013 20: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    Quote: Prapor Afonya

    P.S. And "God bless America" ​​your nickname sounds like a big creep to this very America


    I love America because America is a LAND OF PEOPLE! I pray that America has always been strong because America is a good half.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!! I wish your kind America to come to Georgia to visit, as before it came to Iraq, Vietnam, etc.
    You have already bent about America's kindness, made fun of the law. History should be studied according to reliable sources. Probably you think that the USSR started the Second World War and the USSR dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, and you were reminded of Vietnam how the freedom-loving people were poisoned with chemistry, carpet bombing of German cities, the murder of thousands of innocent people in Serbia, Algeria, Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc. What other facts can you bring to make your rose-colored glasses sleep? You call us occupiers (when and whom we occupied interestingly), this is us who saved you from fascism, because "freedom-loving" and "kind" Turks (friends of amers) would come to you, and it is difficult to imagine what would happen to Georgia and the Georgian people ... It is necessary to turn the whole story inside out, it hurts me for you and for the entire Georgian people. Talk about freedom, where did you find freedom in the United States? Freedom of speech in the United States is a fiction, the usual propaganda of the media completely controlled by the White House. And the policy of Western colonialism? "Divide and rule" is the economic occupation of vassal countries for foreign corporations (money, material resources will flow away abroad), lack of political independence, sovereignty. Is this what you want for Georgia? Does the United States need a strong, independent Georgia at all? Why? The United States needs a mongrel, deprived of freedom and barking on orders from above. -Georgia will never be an equal ally, only a colony. It is naive and foolish to believe that the United States will make a semblance of the state of Georgia from Georgia.
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 21: 06 New
      -1
      I love the Kremlin propaganda. Just like comics.
    2. GodSaveTheUSA
      GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 21: 41 New
      -2
      700 Georgians participated in WWII.
    3. GodSaveTheUSA
      GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 21: 48 New
      0
      I am sure you are deeply religious person. Shame on you :)
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 22: 01 New
        +1
        Mr. Saakashvili, you messed up the forums!
  25. Ak 12
    Ak 12 April 25 2013 20: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    America had a plan for the destruction of the USSR. The plan worked perfectly. Now the turn of Russia. I know for sure that a new plan is in place. I can’t wait ... Russia is a prison of nations!

    Another puppy of the democratic regime. We will not run into the same rake twice and America will fall rather than Russia
    1. GodSaveAmerica
      GodSaveAmerica April 25 2013 20: 54 New
      -2
      puppy - love this word. Very melodious.
      1. harrymur
        harrymur April 25 2013 21: 09 New
        +3
        here’s the vile plan of the Russians, no matter the current, first we will take the Borjomi, then the wine, we are interested in the Kakheti, Kindzmarauli, Khvanchkara, and we will take away the most important secret of Georgia-CHACHA and Georgia’s kryndets, GEORGIANS GIVE UP RUSSIAN GO))
        for which minus that, let Natsik touch))
    2. GodSaveTheUSA
      GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 21: 49 New
      0
      puppy - I love this word so much .. extremely melodious.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 22: 04 New
        +1
        ما ظَنُّكَ بِجَارِك فَقَالَ ظَنِّي بِنَفْسِي
  26. honest jew
    honest jew April 25 2013 21: 20 New
    0
    Chelyabinsk guys are so severe that they don’t even wash !!!!
  27. edeligor
    edeligor April 25 2013 21: 28 New
    +2
    It is very pleasant to see the friendly grin of our western partners in the person of their sixes, and more specifically GodSaveAmerica. Dear GodSaveAmerica! You can orgasm as much as you like in your hatred for us, for Russia, and you are the "victim of the regime", only the American one. You are the fruit of Brzezinski and others like him. Thank you for the truth, with your words and slogans you have removed the rose-colored glasses of American democracy and love for us from us!
  28. GodSaveTheUSA
    GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 21: 29 New
    -4
    Russia is a prison of nations!
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 21: 32 New
      0
      FacePalm .............
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 21: 33 New
      +2
      Mr. Saakashvili relocate!
    3. harrymur
      harrymur April 25 2013 21: 35 New
      +1
      give the secret of chachi and we will stay with you, not for long, then you will need Borjomi and for the evening Kakheti
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 25 2013 21: 43 New
        +4
        The secret of Borjomi is known. Soda, salt and tap water.
        1. GodSaveTheUSA
          GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 21: 45 New
          -1
          But Russians love it. You've got good taste. :)
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 25 2013 21: 52 New
            +2
            Precisely because I have good taste, I have never used and never use Georgian fakes.
        2. harrymur
          harrymur April 25 2013 22: 00 New
          +2
          I spent all my childhood in Georgia, school holidays, thanks to my father, Georgians are normal characters, once a genacale-homeowner saved me from a scorpion, I decided to touch it with a mink from a mink, gave it to me on the head and scorpion crushed, thanks,
          and so really sorry for them, a beautiful country, kind people, versed in wine and drinks and in kurales, but wait became a hostage of the game of "gods", while there are amers in high esteem, then Russians, and so on in a circle, it's a pity that the country is more beautiful and the women the more there are graters, good luck Georgians do not harm your neighbors
      2. GodSaveTheUSA
        GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 21: 54 New
        +1
        Tower of Chacha in Batumi. Tones of free Chacha!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhI1lGSwK1k

        Visit Batumi!
        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 21: 59 New
          0
          And in the USA there is, but so few and few locals buy, mostly former from the CIS countries. So what a ridiculous achievement.)
    4. Radoslav
      Radoslav April 25 2013 22: 00 New
      +1
      The son of a donkey and a stinking donkey, for some reason in the "bad" country of Russia there are more than a million of your cousins ​​living, and it seems that they do not live badly if you cannot sweep them out of Russia even with a shitty broom. Your president is a sukashvilli addict and in my opinion, even a passive fagot, take a closer look at him.
      1. GodSaveTheUSA
        GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 03 New
        0
        Fuck Sukashvili, I don't like him and his ideology.
        Fuck Putin too.
        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 22: 09 New
          +2
          Man, it's just funny to talk to you. Respect the forums in which you communicate, do not communicate with you in languages ​​incomprehensible to you.
          About your statement, you are ridiculous, this is your opinion and no more. Why didn’t you please Putin sick?)
          1. GodSaveTheUSA
            GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 11 New
            +1
            You're right. excuse me.
        2. luka095
          luka095 April 26 2013 00: 43 New
          0
          Tell me, swearing is that, an attribute of freedom?
  29. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 21: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: krpmlws
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    Quote: GodSaveAmerica
    Quote: Prapor Afonya

    P.S. And "God bless America" ​​your nickname sounds like a big creep to this very America


    I love America because America is a LAND OF PEOPLE! I pray that America has always been strong because America is a good half.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!! I wish your kind America to come to Georgia to visit, as before it came to Iraq, Vietnam, etc.
    You have already bent about America's kindness, made fun of the law. History should be studied according to reliable sources. Probably you think that the USSR started the Second World War and the USSR dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, and you were reminded of Vietnam how the freedom-loving people were poisoned with chemistry, carpet bombing of German cities, the murder of thousands of innocent people in Serbia, Algeria, Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc. What other facts can you bring to make your rose-colored glasses sleep? You call us occupiers (when and whom we occupied interestingly), this is us who saved you from fascism, because "freedom-loving" and "kind" Turks (friends of amers) would come to you, and it is difficult to imagine what would happen to Georgia and the Georgian people ... It is necessary to turn the whole story inside out, it hurts me for you and for the entire Georgian people. Talk about freedom, where did you find freedom in the United States? Freedom of speech in the United States is a fiction, the usual propaganda of the media completely controlled by the White House. And the policy of Western colonialism? "Divide and rule" is the economic occupation of vassal countries for foreign corporations (money, material resources will flow away abroad), lack of political independence, sovereignty. Is this what you want for Georgia? Does the United States need a strong, independent Georgia at all? Why? The United States needs a mongrel, deprived of freedom and barking on orders from above. -Georgia will never be an equal ally, only a colony. It is naive and foolish to believe that the United States will make a semblance of the state of Georgia from Georgia.

    Handsome, he said strongly, put 5 + !!!
    1. Raven1972
      Raven1972 April 25 2013 22: 13 New
      +2
      I join with two hands !!!!!!!! good good good hi
  30. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 21: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: GodSaveTheUSA
    Russia is a prison of nations!

    Georgia Zoo-Tie-Sloths laughing
  31. ed1968
    ed1968 April 25 2013 22: 03 New
    +2
    it’s even funny, but once they were fraternal peoples and fought shoulder to shoulder
    1. GodSaveTheUSA
      GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 07 New
      -2
      But than Russia occupied Abkhazia and Samachablo (the South Osethia), made genocide of peaceful Georgian population .. really sad.
      1. ed1968
        ed1968 April 25 2013 22: 14 New
        +2
        Russia is bad because these territories are not allowed to occupy Georgia is ridiculous
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 25 2013 22: 16 New
        +2
        What is this occupation? The Kudars and Abkhazians themselves asked to place Russian troops in their countries. Afraid of aggressive neighbors from the south
        1. GodSaveTheUSA
          GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 18 New
          -1
          occupation began in the 90s
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 25 2013 22: 21 New
            +1
            Really? In fact, Russian peacekeepers were there on the basis of treaties signed by your president and ratified by your parliament. And no one has withdrawn this ratification. So there is no need for stupid verbal balancing act. You should understand that it is difficult for anyone who knows who the kudars are to hang noodles on their ears.
            1. ed1968
              ed1968 April 25 2013 22: 25 New
              +1
              hi God bless America, we don’t understand this, or he just doesn’t want to understand for some reason
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 25 2013 22: 34 New
                +1
                There the guys are generally original.
                Remember the "night of sapper blades" in Tbilisi? They celebrate this event every year.
                And for them, the situation is quite normal when the one who made the decision to use the troops, Jumber Patiashvili, lays flowers at the monument to the victims and stigmatizes imperial Russia for these victims. Theater of the absurd.
                1. ed1968
                  ed1968 April 25 2013 22: 48 New
                  +1
                  they are not in the house fool that if it weren’t for bad Russia, it wouldn’t be for anyone to lay flowers on the graves, but Georgia itself would not exist as a sovereign state
          2. luka095
            luka095 April 26 2013 00: 49 New
            0
            Still, I wonder where you got your education and what?
            I repeat, you operate with propaganda cliches!
      3. luka095
        luka095 April 26 2013 00: 47 New
        0
        When will you move away from propaganda cliches?
        By the way, why do you slide into english all the time? Is this your native language?
  32. GodSaveTheUSA
    GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 14 New
    0
    Chacha tower in Batumi, a lot of free chacha

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhI1lGSwK1k
    1. harrymur
      harrymur April 25 2013 22: 24 New
      +1
      the link is not working, it’s better to discard the manual for preparing the secret elixir, or we will come by ourselves))
      1. GodSaveTheUSA
        GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 35 New
        0
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLx1Fn-M4cU
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution April 25 2013 23: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: harrimur
        the link is not working, it’s better to discard the manual for preparing the secret elixir, or we will come by ourselves))

        And still cook before your eyes!) Yes, more than once!) Somehow it sounds ambiguous .........)
  33. krpmlws
    krpmlws April 25 2013 22: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: GodSaveTheUSA
    But than Russia occupied Abkhazia and Samachablo (the South Osethia), made genocide of peaceful Georgian population .. really sad.

    Well, there is nothing to say, except for the repetition of outright lies about the genocide of Georgian Georgians by Russian (although I do not speak English, I can read it)))? The forum is not a place for slogans, especially absurd ones. And if anyone organized the genocide, they were Georgians by the hands of Stalin, who exterminated Russians by millions. So Russia has every moral right to present Georgia with such an account that you are tormented by paying.
    1. ed1968
      ed1968 April 25 2013 22: 26 New
      +2
      I absolutely agree with you smile
  34. Radoslav
    Radoslav April 25 2013 22: 32 New
    +1
    Georgia is a country and people who, like a "weather vane", rushing from one strong state to another strong state, yelling and crying for help, has no future. There was no need to save the Georgians in the 19th century, even though the Turks and Persians raped them physically and politically ... And I believe that our Russian kind-heartedness and desire to help our neighbors in politics lead to the opposite result. In politics, you have to behave like Anglosexes, to achieve your result, sparing no one, firmly and decisively. PS Georgia is a state of hemorrhoids, in the body of the international community.
    1. ed1968
      ed1968 April 25 2013 22: 42 New
      +2
      everything is like a proverb (DO NOT DO GOOD DO NOT GET EVIL) Russia all the time throughout its history suffered from its former "friends" and "brothers" for whom it tried and received in return only betrayal and slaps am hope over time we will stop making mistakes of the past
      1. GodSaveTheUSA
        GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 46 New
        0
        "for which she tried" laughing
  35. Seraph
    Seraph April 25 2013 22: 51 New
    +3
    I am Orthodox Christian. For six years he lived side by side with an Orthodox Georgian.
    I used to love the Georgian people, their hospitality, their willingness to help. But then, over time, everything began to change. And in August 2008, something clicked out of the Georgian brothers. It seems to me that their television used some kind of zombie technology then. Suddenly, a wall grew between us, while we avoided talking about war.
    It seems to me that the problem of the Georgian people is the same as ours: too little Christ, too much passion, ambition and self-confidence.
    We will never defeat our enemies unless we have a spiritual core.
    ps I consider the Orthodox (not to be confused with fanatics, TINs, sectarians, etc.) the most ardent pragmatists and realists. And therefore: to develop industry, put as many ballistic missiles into service as possible, shoot enemies of the country, etc.
  36. GodSaveTheUSA
    GodSaveTheUSA April 25 2013 22: 59 New
    +2
    Goodbye, guys. Thanks for the comments. Over the past 7 years, I have not written anything in Russian. Another 3-4 weeks, and my Russian will be fine.
    1. ed1968
      ed1968 April 25 2013 23: 04 New
      +2
      good luck
    2. Radoslav
      Radoslav April 25 2013 23: 39 New
      +2
      And you do not let fart loudly and do not slander the Russian people and Great Russia, and then again, when the Russian troops enter your country, Georgia, you will have a severe form of bloody diarrhea, do not let this I ask you.
    3. luka095
      luka095 April 26 2013 00: 53 New
      0
      It is good that you restore your Russian language. I wish you success in this.
  37. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 25 2013 23: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: GodSaveTheUSA
    Goodbye, guys. Thanks for the comments. Over the past 7 years, I have not written anything in Russian. Another 3-4 weeks, and my Russian will be fine.

    And you noticed, our Georgian changed the flag from Amerovsky to Georgian, and throughout the discussion, his opinion changed, how the hell, oh in the hole!
    1. ed1968
      ed1968 April 25 2013 23: 24 New
      +3
      it seems guys we will soon re-educate him lol
  38. Cormorants
    Cormorants 26 August 2013 11: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Lazer
    How to connect the exact execution of the order and drill?
    The combatant in our time, is that conscripts should be busy with something and not stagger idle.
    A relic of the past, like footcloths, an overcoat and a powdered wig.

    I don’t agree, we changed many socks to footcloths on an urgent basis, it’s convenient and doesn’t rub your leg if your hands aren’t crooked. And the overcoat is so bad that it replaces, it’s beautiful, warm, the material breathes and does not let water pass. These things are time-tested, experience.