On the threshold of a new stage of negotiations

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On the threshold of a new stage of negotiations


Following the latest telephone conversations between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump, the results of Zelenskyy's visit to Washington and statements made by the White House, it is becoming clear that a possible transfer to Ukraine missiles The Tomahawk was an element of political bargaining and a way for the Americans to put pressure on the Russian political leadership.



The latest phase of escalation—the transfer of intelligence to Ukraine for strikes on Russian oil refineries and drone raids on them, mutual strikes on electrical substations, talk of handing over Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine and a new counteroffensive, etc.—ended rather unexpectedly. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin agreed to a new meeting, this time in Budapest, the Hungarian capital, preceded by a series of preparatory meetings at a lower level.

In previous materials (see "The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens??), the author has already noted that the military conflict in Ukraine has long been developing in waves, like tidal waves – first there's a phase of escalation, then a phase of negotiations. In other words, we're constantly alternating between E-P-E-P. At the moment, it seems we're back in the negotiation phase.

After a series of rather aggressive statements against Russia from Washington, this may seem strange – it seemed the wave of escalation was only gaining momentum, but this impression turned out to be false. Overall, many are left with a sense of political chaos, but in fact, there's nothing surprising about this. Trump's unexpected "change of heart" is perfectly typical of his style – a hallmark of Trump's policy is its unpredictability. Trump is using this element of unpredictability to exert pressure on both Russia and Ukraine.

And while Trump's tactics may change, the goals of the new American administration, in general, have not changed: freezing the military conflict.

"We must stop at the front line, wherever it may be."


Amid bellicose statements against Russia from the White House, Zelenskyy arrived in Washington for a meeting with Trump in an upbeat mood, expecting to secure the transfer of Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine and perhaps something else. However, the outcome of these negotiations proved disappointing for Ukraine. The American publication Axios notes that the US president was in a completely different mood than the Ukrainian side had expected.

"President Trump told Volodymyr Zelenskyy during a tense meeting on Friday that he has no intention of delivering long-range Tomahawk missiles, at least for now. According to Axios sources, Zelenskyy hoped that his visit to Washington would result in commitments to deliver new weapons for Ukraine, but a day later, after a lengthy phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump was in a completely different mood. According to sources, Trump made it clear that his priority is diplomacy, and the transfer of the Tomahawk could undermine those efforts." пишет edition.

Indeed, over the past few weeks, it might have seemed as if US President Donald Trump had changed his position and shifted to supporting Ukraine. However, this is not the case – Trump still has no intention of spending a single dollar on the military conflict in Ukraine, and, if possible, of helping to end or freeze it, in order to claim the credit for being a peacemaker.

Trump has already outlined what he will do if US peacekeeping initiatives fail, wishing both sides "all the best" and noting that the US will continue to supply weapons to NATO countries (i.e., sell them to Europe), and then let them do whatever they want. This is a win-win situation for the Americans: the financial costs are shifted to Europe, the American military-industrial complex is busy with orders, and Trump remains formally a "peacemaker." Nevertheless, the US president has not abandoned the idea of ​​being credited as a peacemaker and therefore continued to play a double game, alternately courting and threatening both Ukraine and Russia.

According to Western media reports, Trump didn't stand on ceremony with Zelensky, and behind closed doors their conversations degenerated into arguments several times. According to CNN's Donald Trump expressed the impression that Zelenskyy was seeking to escalate and prolong the conflict, and he expressed concern about possible losses during the coming harsh winter.

Immediately after the meeting, Trump called for a ceasefire along the current front line and called for an end to the bloodshed.

"We need to stop at the front line, wherever it is now—otherwise, everything will become too confusing and it will be impossible to sort things out. Stop at the front line, and both sides must return home to their families, stop the killing—and that's it. Stop right now, at the front line. I told President Zelenskyy this. I told President Putin this."
- said Trump.

Trump also called on Putin and Zelensky to "declare victory together."

"Enough blood has been spilled, the boundaries of property are determined by bravery on the battlefield. They must stop where they are. Let both declare victory, let story will decide!

What's Behind Trump and Putin's Talks in Hungary?


On October 16, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump held a telephone conversation, during which they agreed to hold another summit to discuss the conflict in Ukraine, this time in the Hungarian capital. The conversation, initiated by Russia, lasted approximately two and a half hours. Thus, Vladimir Putin seized the initiative and thwarted all plans by Zelenskyy, who was scheduled to meet with Trump on October 17.

Nevertheless, the call to Trump and the agreement on a new summit likely means that Russia, in one form or another (there are currently conflicting rumors regarding “territory swaps”), has agreed to a freeze on the conflict in Ukraine.

Why does the author believe this? Because, given that the previous talks in Alaska ended without any clear results, it's unlikely Russia and the United States would have held a second summit if their positions were so far apart. President Trump and Vice President Vance have repeatedly stated their desire for a ceasefire and a freeze in the conflict, so it's likely that if the summit does take place, it will result in a ceasefire being declared along the line of contact.

Whether the summit will take place will become clear next week, when Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio are scheduled to meet. According to The Wall Street Journal, to prepare the ground for an agreement, the US is planning more low-level meetings with Russia than were held before the Alaska talks. The outcome of these meetings will determine whether a second summit between Trump and Putin will take place.

Some ultra-patriotic bloggers and users are negative about the idea of ​​freezing the conflict and suspending the SVO, but the objective reality is that the alternative to freezing is the SVO, which will continue for many years to come. In the article "The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?" ?", which the author already referenced above, already stated that, according to official data from the Russian Ministry of Defense, 4714 square kilometers of territory were liberated in the Northern Military District zone this year, of which 3,300 square kilometers were liberated in the DPR. The area of ​​DPR territory still controlled by Ukraine totals approximately 5,600 square kilometers. Therefore, at this rate of advance, liberating DPR territory in the next year is unlikely. Not to mention parts of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson oblasts. Furthermore, no full-scale rotations have been conducted in the Northern Military District zone.

Several other important factors should be taken into account, including, frankly, the poor state of the Russian economy, which is driving up key rates and leading to absurd proposals to charge the unemployed 45 rubles a year for compulsory health insurance. Statistically, the burden on businesses in Russia is already higher than in developing countries and is approaching European bureaucracy (for example, the tax burden in Russia is already higher than in Germany). Russia is among the countries with the highest key rates in the world.

In fact, a new fork in the road awaits us: either a new wave of escalation after the negotiations (if they fail), or a ceasefire and suspension of the military conflict. Both options carry certain risks: freezing the conflict without political agreements risks its resumption in the future (the Middle East is a prime example). A new wave of escalation also carries the risk of Ukraine being sold not only Tomahawks, but also other long-range missiles. The only response to all this will be strengthening Defense.

Trump is proposing to end the military conflict, but what will follow is not entirely clear at this point.
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  1. +15
    21 October 2025 03: 49
    Trump is proposing to end the military conflict, but what will follow is not entirely clear at this point.
    What's unclear here - the conflict will soon flare up with renewed vigor!
    1. +5
      21 October 2025 07: 41
      The meeting between Lavrov and Rubio has been postponed; they again disagreed.
      1. -5
        21 October 2025 08: 19
        There is no smell of any kind of fire.
        1. -2
          21 October 2025 20: 42
          And it (the deal) wasn't even planned. It's a game of chance. The Russian Armed Forces are already storming Kherson, they've taken Korabelny Island, and the WCC has no reserves there—they've all been sent to Krasnoarmeysk. Why interfere with the guys?
          And after the attempted anti-Trump revolution in the US, Donald has enough on his plate without negotiations. He urgently needs to put pressure on the deep state; I think there will be arrests and maybe even military tribunals. It will be very interesting to see what happens next.
          And our war continues, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are cracking. Winter is ahead. Everything is going according to plan. Soon they will start digging an intercontinental tunnel, that is more important.
    2. -1
      21 October 2025 09: 27
      There are options: if elections in Ukraine are made a condition, then Zelensky is definitely out. But most likely, if he agrees to any agreement, the Nazis will simply destroy him, and interested Europeans will support them.
      Therefore, agree to acceptable conditions, wait a week or two until chaos in the jar with spiders begins, and calmly resume (Israel will not let you lie laughing ) and take it back at a lower cost, even if control of the country is lost. And that will happen as soon as the fighting stops, chaos will begin.
      Now the only thing that keeps Zelya in power is the war; if there is no war, everything will end very quickly and very badly for him.
      1. 0
        21 October 2025 11: 07
        All the Nazis in Banderland are "on a short leash" to the SBU and GUR. Without their masters' permission, they wouldn't even fart, let alone knock anyone down.
      2. +1
        21 October 2025 13: 00
        If that were the case, it would be fine. But if chaos doesn't occur, there will be problems. The combat hamster will be pumped full of weapons again.
    3. +5
      21 October 2025 09: 38
      Trump is proposing to end the military conflict, but what will follow is not entirely clear at this point.
      There will be a repeat of the Minsk agreements, only with worse consequences: the Ukrainian Armed Forces will lick their wounds and mobilize, Europe will prepare for war. And so on ad infinitum, until the Kremlin realizes that it's not necessary to conduct a strategic military operation, but to wage a war aimed at Ukraine's capitulation and the annexation of all its territory, except for its western part.
      1. +2
        21 October 2025 10: 00
        The Kremlin is focused on one thing: profit by any means necessary. It seems they don't understand that Gazprom's profits have fallen due to its actions in Ukraine.
        1. +4
          21 October 2025 16: 56
          Gazprom, the oil industry, civil shipbuilding... And now Russian Railways has joined this list. But the sanctions are only to our advantage.
          1. -1
            21 October 2025 17: 59
            Well, yes. You reason in a rather pederastic way: "They beat us, but we get stronger."
    4. -4
      21 October 2025 09: 42
      Uncle lee
      Today, 03: 49
      What's unclear here - the conflict will soon flare up with renewed vigor!

      hi I do not agree with the author's pragmatism.
      1. Firstly, the main issue at the meeting of the red-haired chatterbox in Washington, as insiders report, was the expectation of the mattress makers to receive materials of the new compromising information on Sleepy Joe's family in the fight against democrats and in the upcoming 2026 midterm elections.
      2. Secondly, a big diplomatic game is underway, in which the Russian side skillfully exploits the Washington narcissist’s penchant for vanity.
      There is already information that the summit scheduled for the end of October will most likely not take place due to the very distant views of Lavrov and Rubio during a telephone conversation.
      3. As V. Medinsky put it at the last negotiations in Istanbul, military operations and negotiations are being conducted simultaneously.
      4. The SVO skating rink is gaining momentum, blackouts in certain cities of Bandera are starting to make themselves known.
      The 4714 square kilometers already freed up in 2025 could further increase in numbers if we get started in earnest.
      5. There are still some negotiating trump cards and new weapons that will soon be tested in Bandera.
      And the red-haired windbag from Washington needs to be given a direct message about the inviolability of Russia's position on long-term peace and presented with the fact that Russia's security is indivisible from collective security.
    5. 0
      21 October 2025 11: 12
      Trump has several problems on his hands. Number one is China, Taiwan, and Venezuela. Israel and Iran could flare up at any moment. In such a situation, solving the Banderland problem, maybe not completely, but at least for a sufficiently long time while other problems are sorted out, would be a significant plus. After all, despite his statements, if the situation in Banderland deteriorates sharply and the Europeans turn to him for help, he will be forced to intervene, even if he doesn't need it at that moment.
    6. -4
      21 October 2025 17: 47
      Exactly! Unless Putin caves in, of course. No mutually satisfactory agreement is possible – only the defeat of one side and the victory of the other.
    7. 0
      21 October 2025 21: 25
      Yeah, true, Ukraine will already be rearmed, and Europe will be put on a war footing.

      Only Russia's enemies need a ceasefire and all these shameful stops along the front lines. This will expose the Paper Tiger's weakness to its enemies and the people's lack of confidence in the government. A dangerous path.
      We have only one line: the Constitutional Territories. But if we have to fight for them again, the price will be Odessa.
  2. +3
    21 October 2025 03: 52
    There's no brighter outcome in sight. We'll still be beating each other up for the joy of Uncle Joe. This guy is either crazy, or someone is standing behind him with a club, or maybe both. Things aren't getting any easier for us.
    1. +2
      21 October 2025 09: 42
      What will the Kremlin tell our Army and the people, who will sooner or later realize that the "Ukrainian" issue cannot be resolved by the current path? The consequences of this "deal" could be unpredictable.
      1. +4
        21 October 2025 10: 01
        They will say that in these difficult times, everyone needs to tighten their belts.
      2. +2
        21 October 2025 10: 25
        This issue won't be resolved for many years to come. This isn't Chechnya, where buying the top of one clan temporarily earned shaky loyalty... This is for years, a breeding ground for OUN ideologists. Just look at the history of this organization. But some people think: "I'm the state, and after me, come the flood, or go to heaven..." The assets and children are in the right places, and you should be understanding... This isn't meant to criticize the Supreme Command, it's just the way the system works.
      3. +4
        21 October 2025 14: 34
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        What will the Kremlin say to our Army and the people, who will sooner or later understand that the "Ukrainian" question cannot be resolved by the current path?
        They'll think of something to say; there are still plenty of those who believe in a good tsar and bad boyars. Yes, blood, grief, and suffering have been shed, and hiding behind holidays and fireworks is becoming increasingly difficult. Nevertheless, there's no sign of the boy Kibalchish; only the bad guys are earning their "jam" and "cookies" by milking Russia.
        Now, if they surrender the strategic nuclear forces, having already accepted the ultimatum, having exhausted and bled the country dry with years of "operation," perhaps a red "Caesar" will emerge who will cross the Rubicon and not stop, like Prigozhin. Any other option involving "revolution" is unlikely to be feasible for the country's revival and the trial of traitors. In that case, the people and the army might support it.
        1. 0
          22 October 2025 06: 55
          Quote: Per se.
          That's if they hand over the strategic nuclear forces

          They won't give in... it's just that the instinct for self-preservation and the sense of "I" won't allow it... and therefore, everything else won't happen either.
      4. +3
        22 October 2025 06: 19
        What will the Kremlin say to our Army and the people, who will sooner or later understand that the "Ukrainian" question cannot be resolved by the current path?

        As if they asked us when all this was just starting out, they won't ask us how to end it. The people are only a political subject in one little-cited book, but in reality they're a disenfranchised mass that must agree with the authorities on everything. Fortunately, the authorities don't have many opinions: theirs is wrong. And when it's wrong, we know what to do. Examples, I believe, are superfluous.
  3. +7
    21 October 2025 03: 58
    Trump is proposing to end the military conflict, but what will follow is not entirely clear at this point.

    I'm not one to make predictions, but I have a feeling this will unfortunately last for decades. I basically can't imagine how this conflict will ever be resolved.
    1. +4
      21 October 2025 08: 45
      In principle, I cannot imagine how this conflict can be resolved at all.


      There's only one way out. Crush the Ukrainian government, just like the Jews crushed Gaza. That is, throw city administrations, transportation systems, and all forms of communication into chaos.
      P.S. If, of course, we have enough heavy ammunition of all types for this (except nuclear).
      1. 0
        21 October 2025 14: 57
        This is true - if, of course, there are enough human resources first of all.
  4. +14
    21 October 2025 04: 46

    Some ultra-patriotic bloggers and users are negative about the idea of ​​freezing the conflict and suspending the SVO, but the objective reality is that the alternative to freezing is the SVO, which will last for many years to come.

    For the author... the objective reality is that freezing the SVO is a political defeat for the Kremlin... both domestically and internationally... it is impossible to support politicians for whom the sacrifices made by our people in the SVO will be wasted...
    The goals of the SVO are deceitful...the people will not forgive the president for such a scam.
    1. +3
      21 October 2025 05: 11
      The people will not forgive the president for such a scam.

      Personally, I don't yet see any reason for the SVO to be frozen and the combat line to stabilize where it is now. And I'm sure Putin understands all the risks of such a decision. hi
      1. +3
        21 October 2025 05: 32
        Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
        I am sure that Putin understands all the risks of such a decision.

        I agree...let's wait and see how the meeting between our president and the US president ends.
    2. +11
      21 October 2025 05: 12
      They couldn't care less about this defeat; the screws have been tightened inside the country. Both liberals and ultra-patriots will be wiped out in a single fell swoop. And they count their own votes at the elections. And as hard as it is to admit, our country also needs a break. Only Europe is in a belligerent mood; they can send us packing or quietly sabotage us.
      1. +9
        21 October 2025 06: 08
        Will there be a respite? Can Donnie guarantee that the numerous sanctions against us will be lifted? That the money will be returned, etc.? And yet, all of this was largely orchestrated by Gayropa, which will most likely just send Trump packing. So? What's the point of all this for Russia then?
        1. +7
          21 October 2025 06: 49
          I completely agree with you: even if Ukraine were to lower sanctions with the US, it wouldn't do much good. Trade with the striped ones is so-so. And a temporary ceasefire would only provide a minor cost reduction. Removing troops from the front probably won't work.
          1. +11
            21 October 2025 08: 08
            It will probably not be possible to withdraw troops from the front.


            The Russian government will face a major problem: who will replace the veteran soldiers of the SVO during the freezing of the conflict in the LBS?

            It looks like everything has been decided; Russian and American negotiators have reached some kind of consensus.
            The presidents of the Russian Federation and the United States will not meet without a reason; this result will be recorded.
            The result is intriguing for the Russian Federation.

            It's somehow sad.
            The President of the Russian Federation is 73 years old.
            Director of the FSB - 73 years old
            Aide to the President of the Russian Federation – 74 years old
            The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is 75 years old.
            Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - 70 years old.
            I can hardly imagine how one can work 24/7 during a war at such an age.
            1. -7
              21 October 2025 09: 23
              Quote: AA17
              It's somehow sad.
              The President of the Russian Federation is 73 years old.
              Director of the FSB - 73 years old
              Aide to the President of the Russian Federation – 74 years old
              ...

              This issue is periodically raised in our media, including on VO
              And I already wrote on this topic
              Here is a list of today's politicians and their ages
              As we can see, the youngest of them is Macron, 47 years old!
              By the way, Zelensky is also 47 years old.
              Which of them would you like to see as the President of Russia?))
              1. +8
                21 October 2025 09: 41
                Which of them would you like to see as the President of Russia?))


                The question is ridiculous.
                1. -6
                  21 October 2025 09: 48
                  Quote: AA17
                  The question is ridiculous

                  What's ridiculous here is to associate age with some of your own expectations.
                  Youth and sound decisions are not synonymous
                  1. +3
                    21 October 2025 10: 07
                    But how everyone rejoiced when "young" Gorbachev came to power. Putin was 48 in 2000...
                    1. +1
                      21 October 2025 10: 11
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      How everyone rejoiced when "young" Gorbachev arrived

                      Well, Gorbachev was in his fifties at the time, not particularly young.
                      But yes, that's what I'm writing about, that linking age and healthy decisions is naive.
                      1. +1
                        22 October 2025 07: 06
                        Quote from sdivt
                        But yes, that's what I'm writing about, that linking age and healthy decisions is naive.

                        It's also naive to claim that at 70+, performance is no worse than at 40, and the brain works twice as well, due to experience... it's sad, but the concept of age is not abolished...
                  2. +6
                    21 October 2025 11: 45
                    Youth and sound decisions are not synonymous


                    I am 66 years old. I work.
                    My pension doesn't allow me to relax.
                    But I really don’t want to work; I have several chronic illnesses.
                    I think it’s hardly possible to be cheerful and energetic at 70+ years old.
              2. +1
                22 October 2025 06: 45
                Which of them would you like to see as the President of Russia?))

                Misha Galustyan (45 years old)

                But seriously, a few years ago, Grandpa Zyu tried to sell the ruling class a genuine alternative to the great and irreplaceable. Spoiler alert: it didn't work; they mixed a man with a certain substance. But the Communist Party of the Russian Federation demonstrated that they still have gunpowder in their flasks and berries in their buttocks, so all questions about a merger with the Mironovites, which had been actively discussed in the Administration of the Light-Faced One, immediately died down. So the Communist Party only benefited from that performance, while everyone else, unfortunately, lost. After all, objectively speaking, Grudinin was truly the figure who could have found a compromise between business, the security forces, and the bureaucracy. What can I say, even among my acquaintances, who include representatives of absolutely all political forces, there wasn't a single one who didn't support Grudinin's candidacy. But, unfortunately, our oligarchy had no intention of moderating its appetites even a little, which was the main point of Pavel Nikolaevich's program. As a result, we have what we have, including the SVO.
            2. +5
              21 October 2025 10: 16
              Yeah, and these people also said something about gerontocracy in the late USSR.
            3. +6
              21 October 2025 14: 46
              They forgot to mention that everyone on the list is a former member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Can you be a former communist if you were one? And why aren't you a communist now, but a capitalist? Maybe that's why the Soviet Union collapsed—there were no communists left?
              1. +3
                21 October 2025 16: 12
                But at the same time, the enemies of the communists have been cowardly blaming the communists for the destruction of the USSR for 35 years.
                1. +2
                  22 October 2025 07: 09
                  Quote: tatra
                  But at the same time, the enemies of the communists have been cowardly blaming the communists for the destruction of the USSR for 35 years.

                  So, apart from you, there were no communists in the party...otherwise the USSR would have been there.
        2. +1
          21 October 2025 14: 05
          Quote: paul3390
          Will there be a respite? Can Donnie guarantee that the numerous sanctions against us will be lifted? That the money will be returned, etc.?

          Quote: ASSAD1
          ...even if Donya were to lower sanctions with the US, it wouldn't do much good. Trade with the striped ones is so-so.

          For starters, the Americans haven't yet returned Russia's diplomatic property to the United States. US sanctions weren't lifted even under Yeltsin.
          Lavrov's words in Ethiopia spark shaky optimism:
          "...The Russian minister emphasized that an immediate ceasefire would mean that most of Ukraine would remain under the leadership of the Nazi regime."
          https://www.vesti.ru/article/4743607
          It's been a while since I heard the authorities speak about Nazism in Ukraine.
        3. 0
          21 October 2025 16: 50
          Trump can only force the EU to pay tariffs and buy exorbitant prices for American gas and weapons. But he can't stop it. He's practically giving up, trying so hard—and yet, the mighty Ursulas and Zelis won't listen. request
    3. +15
      21 October 2025 07: 25
      people will not forgive this...
      I have forgiven even worse.
    4. +15
      21 October 2025 08: 05
      The Kremlin's political defeat is the beginning of this SVO. The West has persistently led us to it, and failed us. About "will not forgive." VTsIOM will paint a stunning "support" for any decision, and dozens of forum members will change their tune mid-jump. That's what will happen.
    5. +1
      21 October 2025 08: 33
      Come on, our people are as gullible as Putin himself.
      Whatever they say on the zombie box, that's what will happen.
      How many times have we forgiven, they will forgive us again, and they will run to the elections in droves, and reset everything again. If we live that long.
      1. +3
        21 October 2025 09: 33
        I remember just recently, "someone" was telling "someone" from China about the technology they have that can extend life to 120 years... If so, then we can expect further times of "getting back on our feet," "stability," "growing prosperity," "general well-being and prosperity for the entire nation"... Haven't you noticed that with each passing day, things are getting "better and better"?
    6. +7
      21 October 2025 08: 45
      "The objective reality is that freezing the SVO is a political defeat for the Kremlin... both domestically and internationally." The Kremlin has already lost. It's already clear that all of the SVO's stated goals will not be achieved. At best, the Donetsk and Luhansk regions will be completely liberated.
      1. +6
        21 October 2025 09: 43
        Quote: papas-57
        It's already clear that all of the stated objectives of the Joint Military Operations Forces will not be achieved. At best, the Donetsk and Luhansk regions will be completely liberated.

        What about this latest strategy of grinding down? They say territory isn't the most important thing. They say we'll quickly crush the enemy army, and then take this very Ukraine with our bare hands! Our guards have been harping on about this for ages. So what's the outcome of three and a half years?
    7. +3
      21 October 2025 10: 12
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      For the author... the objective reality is that the freezing of the SVO is a political defeat for the Kremlin.

      The Kremlin already suffered a defeat in 2015 when it refused to help Donbas. By the time it came to its senses, it was too late. The SVO will have to be stopped anyway – the economy can't handle it.
      1. +3
        21 October 2025 10: 45
        By the way, why does the Kremlin so strongly refuse to recognize Kharkov as Russian land?
        1. +1
          21 October 2025 11: 27
          By the way, why? After all, many immigrants to Siberia and Kazakhstan came from there. During the Stolypin reforms.
    8. 0
      21 October 2025 10: 13
      He'll forgive me, he'll forgive me, but what will you do to them? Won't you vote for them in the elections?
    9. 0
      22 October 2025 06: 59
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The people will not forgive the president for such a scam.

      And what will he do? You have an exaggerated opinion of the people's capabilities.
  5. +7
    21 October 2025 05: 02
    We shouldn't be counting square kilometers to see how much has already been liberated, but simply stating that not all of Russia's territory, according to its Constitution, has been liberated yet. The logical conclusion is that, in this case, the tasks of the Central Military District have not yet been fulfilled. Otherwise, he'll start hanging square kilometers on our ears. I've heard of this somewhere before. Exactly. I remember. Under the communists. Only then they hung millions of dollars on our ears. They said we threshed so many millions above the plan, and then we secretly bought grain from Canada! But here, after all, our soldiers gave their lives so that all the lands of Russia, in accordance with its Constitution, were liberated, denazification and demilitarization were carried out in Ukraine, etc.
    By the way, a very dangerous scenario would be if Trump forces Zelensky to step down as leader. Here, our guys might fall for the "fresh" soothing hawk. Like, let's stop where the trenches are today. Incidentally, the author of the article, while veiled, also advocates a similar adventure. It's easy to read between the lines.
    1. +7
      21 October 2025 08: 08
      And this will happen. It was announced that Russian territories are temporarily occupied. Kherson, Zaporizhzhia. It's like in Georgia, with Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    2. +6
      21 October 2025 08: 44
      So no one even remembers the constitutional amendment regarding the inalienability of territories anymore. There was so much "not an inch" rant, and now there's silence, which is very alarming. 🤔
  6. +19
    21 October 2025 05: 11
    Trump's position is crystal clear, logical, and consistent. He doesn't need this war (and the infamous Tomahawk delivery was indeed used only as a tool to coerce peace). Its only beneficiaries are his main enemies, the globalists. A weak Russia under his number two enemy, China, is also unprofitable. Therefore, he strives for a peace treaty without worrying too much about international law and the differing desires of the parties. If a peace treaty fails, at least there will be a long-term ceasefire.
    Europe's position is also logical and understandable: they want the war to last as long as possible, Russia is being bled, Europe is safe—all is well. As a last resort, they are ready for a truce, and a peace treaty only in accordance with international law.
    Zelenskyy and his team's position is generally similar to that of Europe (on which he depends), plus prolonging the war is beneficial to him for his own internal Ukrainian reasons. A ceasefire is a matter of course, but a peace treaty is only justified.
    The only problem is the position of our "great geopoliticians." Having led Russia, thanks to a method of conducting strategic military operations that has no analogues in the world, to an unspeakable impasse, they are now faced with a fork in the road.
    Waging an endless "war of attrition" in the hopes that the Ukrainians will die first and that the "evil Nazi terrorist" Zelensky will deign to sign some kind of peace treaty. But here's the problem: no one wants to sign it.
    Or we could agree to a truce, which we could do at any time, and which would be greeted with delight by the markets and relief by the population. But the problem is that it would render the entire undertaking completely meaningless.
    Waging a war for four years, losing God knows how many people and material assets, destroying Donbas (which they supposedly took on to defend), incurring enormous financial problems and NATO expansion, and ultimately all for... for nothing. That's a bleak prospect.
    1. +9
      21 October 2025 06: 10
      What, exactly, is stopping Donnie from this war if it won't be financed by America? what
      1. +1
        21 October 2025 10: 43
        Quote: paul3390
        What, exactly, is stopping Donnie from this war if it won't be financed by America?
        Drifting towards China
      2. -1
        21 October 2025 14: 14
        Quote: paul3390
        What, exactly, is stopping Donnie from this war if it won't be financed by America?

        Yes, nothing in particular. He doesn't need this war; it doesn't fit his plans at all. It strengthens supranational structures like NATO and strengthens China. But you can't say it's so bad that he can't eat. If nothing works out with a ceasefire, he'll say, "I'm done and will make money off you, and you can go kill each other if you like."
    2. +7
      21 October 2025 08: 27
      A war of attrition would be suicidal for Russia in this situation. This isn't fighting as part of the anti-Hitler coalition, but rather confronting the entire industrial and financial might of the West. We need to exit this war as quickly as possible, even if it means a shabby peace.
      1. -10
        21 October 2025 08: 41
        A dirty world is a defeat, they won't agree to that.
        1. +3
          21 October 2025 08: 47
          Then offer your own recipe for victory. The masses won't be much help in the age of drones either.
          1. -10
            21 October 2025 09: 45
            What weights? The recipe is simple, continue as is.
            1. +6
              21 October 2025 10: 17
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              What weights? The recipe is simple, continue as is.

              What's it like now? Every step leaves dozens dead and hundreds injured. Overall, Trump is right – this senseless carnage needs to stop. And if you personally want to continue, go and show them how to survive drone strikes.
              1. 0
                22 October 2025 07: 05
                There is no war without casualties. If we freeze everything now, the casualties would have been in vain.
          2. +4
            21 October 2025 10: 34
            Quote: Glock-17
            Then offer your recipe for victory.

            This should have been done from the start. Ukraine should have been taken not head-on, but in pincers. Its advantageous geographic position should have been fully exploited. Donbas should have been outflanked. A strike on Odessa. A strike on Kyiv. A naval blockade and a landing (Ukrainian naval drones didn't appear immediately).
            There were various options. But the option of a drawn-out grinding and standing in the Donbas hasn't yielded any significant results in three and a half years. Since the summer of '22, not a single major city, of which there are many in Ukraine, has been liberated.
            1. -6
              21 October 2025 13: 21
              For the operations you proposed, we would have needed a different army size, a massive mobilization, and the readiness of mothballed equipment for use. And, most importantly, we would have to know how the Ukrainians would greet us. We expected flowers. Remember Putin's address to the Ukrainian military? Someone has already responded to this misjudgment of the Ukrainians' sentiments. But we have what we have. What should we do? Personally, I think we need to aggressively use all types of conventional weapons to kill the Ukrainians in the dark ages, without electricity, water, heat, or sanitation. Conduct a nuclear test and warn Europe that we consider this war a war for the preservation of Russia as a state. And we are prepared, if Europe intervenes, to use nuclear weapons on the Ukrainians.
              1. -2
                21 October 2025 13: 38
                Quote: Vik_Vik
                the army should have been of a different size

                And here we have a potentially enormous numerical advantage over Ukraine. On one side, we have a population of 25 million, and on the other, 150 million. What I'm saying is that our capabilities are several times greater than our adversary's (potentially). This is another trump card we have, which is currently hidden deep up our sleeve. It's all a matter of implementation and advance preparation.
        2. +3
          21 October 2025 12: 20
          Makarova, the shameful conduct and planning of this "operation" will lead to anything but victory and peace.
          1. 0
            22 October 2025 07: 06
            We need to correct the obscene conduct and planning of this "operation"
      2. 0
        21 October 2025 10: 14
        Quote: Glock-17
        A war of attrition would be suicidal for Russia in this situation. This isn't fighting as part of the anti-Hitler coalition, but rather confronting the entire industrial and financial might of the West. We need to exit this war as quickly as possible, even if it means a shabby peace.

        It seems so. Now the question is about preserving the lives of our men. To hell with prestige and territory. That's all fleeting.
        1. 0
          21 October 2025 14: 50
          Quote: Prometey
          It seems so. Now the question is about preserving the lives of our men. To hell with prestige and territory. That's all fleeting.

          And I agree with you. But as I wrote about the Glock 17, you can't end a war simply by sticking a bayonet into the ground. The peace treaty we might achieve will be difficult. I can't recommend it after so many casualties, and I doubt Putin will agree to it while he's president.
          This means, unfortunately, that there will be an endless, sluggish war, perhaps with some pauses in the form of truces.
          1. 0
            21 October 2025 15: 36
            As long as I am president, there will be no increase in the retirement age.


            I'll add that if Putin really wanted to win where he hadn't yet started, he would have removed Gerasimov and spent the money on additional drone production and science.
          2. +1
            21 October 2025 21: 31
            Putin will do this while he is president.

            Putin will do what the ruling class decides. And the ruling class, in turn, is weighing what is more advantageous in the current situation: a shameful peace with the prospect of an internal explosion, or a continued war of attrition, which also has a similar prospect, but with a delayed timeframe.
            1. +2
              22 October 2025 00: 10
              Quote: Atheist
              Putin will do what the ruling class decides.

              This naive Marxist interpretation can only be accepted as a gross oversimplification. In fact, the group that seized power and property in the former RSFSR in 1991-1993 is not a class and does not possess a bourgeois consciousness. It could more plausibly be called a quasi-estate (that's why Putin and company love to crunch on French bread). But even more so, it resembles an organized crime group—or, more accurately, a gang. If we want to understand their psychology and decision-making mechanism, we must first apply them to the gang-seized-the-city model, and only then to the class model. And, by the way, if they were a class, they would never have agreed to any kind of SVO, much less conducted it in such a spectacularly absurd manner. All our oligarchs simply groan under it.
              Quote: Atheist
              And he, in turn, weighs what is more beneficial in the current situation: a shameful peace with the prospect of an internal explosion or a continuation of the war of attrition.

              I've already weighed it up, and we're continuing to fight. But they're not at all afraid of an internal explosion from below; any shameful peace will be declared a brilliant victory, and all the dissatisfied will go visit Strelkov or, even worse, Mozgovoy. There might be an explosion, but from above, a la Prigozhin, and from the perspective of that explosion, endless war is far more dangerous for them. And this, by the way, also clearly shows that they have no class consciousness at all; if they had, they would have ended everything long ago and simply recorded their losses.
              1. 0
                23 October 2025 16: 37
                But what about the rising profits of capitalists across the board? Hasn't the European bourgeoisie, working hand in hand with the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, been squeezing assets from our "beloved" crunch-bakers, one after another, year after year until 2022? The ruling class is doing just fine; those who didn't want to be in the boat either fled, like Tinkov, or, conversely, entrenched themselves even further, like Potanin, Mikhelson, and other top people in town. It's just that many forget that, in addition to the classic bourgeoisie, there are also quasi-bourgeoisie, who emerged from the KGB's security apparatus and directly oversaw the collapse of the Soviet Union and the plunder of public property. And the SVO is being conducted using these methods because there are numerous agreements between the US/EU/China and Russia. Former intelligence officer Burns spoke about this directly.
      3. -2
        21 October 2025 14: 30
        Quote: Glock-17
        We need to get out of this war as quickly as possible, even if it means making a shameful peace.

        This is, of course, true. And the author of the article implicitly writes about this, leaning toward the need for a ceasefire. Russia's current strategy, despite all its perversion, would make some sense if it could, in the foreseeable future, actually persuade the "evil Nazis" to sign a peace treaty, even if only on the following terms: Donbas and Crimea, plus half of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia for us, and legal recognition of this. But this is absolutely impossible.
        The question is, how do we get out? A ceasefire would only lift some of the sanctions (primarily the American ones) and provide a brief respite without solving anything fundamental. Plus, it's unclear what to do with the army. There's no money, and after the ceasefire, they'll stop paying it, which would mean the army would simply disperse, or it would have to be sent home. But then we'd end up with a "Syrian scenario," where Putin and his crew triumphantly defeated everyone three times, and then the evil terrorists triumphantly entered the capital.
        So we need to reach a peace treaty with some real terms. In my opinion, the most we can hope for here (and that's with Trump's help) is preserving Crimea and securing its recognition. Everything else will have to be given up, and any form of interference in Ukrainian affairs will be forgotten. Then perhaps we can achieve real peace.
    3. 0
      21 October 2025 14: 05
      Overall, I agree with you on almost everything, but singling out certain "globalists" and contrasting them with Trump isn't entirely appropriate. There's no "globalist" party or conspiracy; it's simply a different part of the economy from Trump. The very structure of his business (construction and tourism) depends on the US domestic market, while the "globalists" are interested in production costs. They'd be happy to move all their assets to the US, but that would reduce profitability.
      1. 0
        21 October 2025 14: 46
        Quote: parma
        Overall, I agree with you on almost everything, but singling out certain "globalists" and contrasting them with Trump isn't entirely appropriate. There's no such thing as a "globalist" party or conspiracy; it's simply a different part of the economy from Trump.

        This is a separate issue—a complex but important one. But discussing it now would take us off topic. For now, I can briefly say that the term "globalists" is relative. These people need to be called something. Trump himself calls them the "Deep State," and we could call them the Democratic Party establishment, etc.
    4. 0
      21 October 2025 17: 03
      its only beneficiaries are its main enemies, the globalists
      What nonsense, he's one of those globalists and a complete insider. It's like how Japanese nationalists in the late 19th century fought European expansion by adopting baronial titles and forging alliances with Britain.
      1. 0
        21 October 2025 17: 25
        Quote from alexoff
        What nonsense, he came from these globalists and is one of them

        Clearly, this is nonsense, and that's precisely why the fight against the deep state, the left-liberal agenda, the evil Soros, and other "cultural Marxism" is at the core of Trump's entire political platform, something to which he devotes the lion's share of his attention. Compared to this, the local, domestic squabbles between Russia and Ukraine rank somewhere around 105th on the American agenda.
        Don't confuse a simple billionaire with a major capitalist and a globalist. Globalism is a specific political and ideological project that is absolutely hostile to Trump's ideas. Not every billionaire is a globalist, and conversely, not every globalist is a billionaire.
        Quote from alexoff
        It's a bit like how Japanese nationalists fought European expansion in the late 19th century by adopting baronial titles and forming alliances with Britain.

        A beautiful example—great! But in this case, it's beside the point. I agree, though, that the war's beneficiaries aren't just the notorious globalists; America's oil and gas business and military-industrial complex are also gaining enormously. The main losers are also obvious: Russia and Ukraine.
        1. +2
          21 October 2025 17: 43
          This is precisely why the fight against the deep state, the left-liberal agenda, the evil Soros, and other "cultural Marxism" is the core of Trump's entire political program, something to which he devotes the lion's share of his attention.
          And so, by staging a postmodern war against his sponsors without any noticeable results (other than a change in media rhetoric), he's fully intending to give everyone a global dressing down. And the NWO is very convenient for him. He can milk India for this, and take the EU's pants off.
    5. -1
      21 October 2025 21: 36
      Zelibobe's war will not be profitable when he and his family are hunted.
      And for Europe - when drones start flying from trucks.
  7. +15
    21 October 2025 05: 18
    According to Western media reports, Trump was not particularly courteous with Zelensky, and behind closed doors their conversations degenerated into arguments several times.

    Trump and Zelensky put on a good show, with the latter bearing the full brunt of the Tsar's wrath. But ours was so happy, now he's in the Tsar's good graces, invited to sit at the Tsar's table with him, have tea and gingerbread.
  8. 0
    21 October 2025 05: 19
    Yes, it seems like everything has been voiced more than once, no one is refusing to talk, but the military actions will not cease.
    The goals have not been achieved, such a phrase should be heard from NATO and its protection, while curtailing and receiving a kick in the ass on the outskirts.
  9. +7
    21 October 2025 05: 28
    Perhaps I'm wrong, but the future is currently being determined at the Fourth Plenum of the CPC, where personnel matters will be decided. On October 18, it was announced that nine senior PLA officers (including three members of the seven Central Military Commission) had been expelled from the party and were being investigated for corruption. Among them were the vice chairman of the Central Military Commission (Xi Jinping), the head of the PLA Political Department (suspended since last year), the deputy director of the Political Work Department (those three are members of the CMC), the head of the PLA Rocket Force (he held this position for a year; his predecessor was arrested), two political commissars of the PLA Army and PLA Navy, the commander of the People's Armed Police Force (similar to our National Guard), the commander of the PLA Eastern Command, and the deputy director of the Joint Operations Command Center (I don't know what that is). And it's unclear whose initiative it was (to mow down the army ahead of the plenum!), and it's unclear who will take over the post of deputy chairman of the CMC.
    As far as I understand, the CPC wants to replace Xi Jinping with Wang Yang. If Xi Jinping's position falters, much in the world could change, because, as they say, Wang Yang is a liberal Westerner, and warming relations between China and the US will undoubtedly impact Russia.
    1. +1
      21 October 2025 05: 41
      Quote: Puncher
      warming relations between China and the United States
      Not under Trump, unless China makes serious concessions. And if Trump is succeeded by Vance, as expected, then not under Vance either.
      1. +1
        21 October 2025 05: 51
        Quote: Nagan
        Not under Trump, unless China makes serious concessions.

        Come on, Trump's supposed to be a tough negotiator. Sure, he positions himself that way, but in reality, most of his threats are empty words. Today, China is the one taking a hard line, regardless of the financial losses. But if China starts bargaining, the US will start bargaining too.
        1. 0
          21 October 2025 08: 30
          Quote: Puncher
          despite financial losses

          At some point, they'll have to take stock, and it'll be a case of "count and cry." America without trade with China will be a complete wreck, and China without trade with America will at the very least be laid up, and most likely, die. As Clinton once said so aptly (though I'm not a fan of his), "It's the economy, stupid!"
          1. 0
            21 October 2025 09: 39
            Quote: Nagan
            Without trade with America, China will at the very least go down, and most likely die.

            You clearly underestimate the CPC. They have the people under complete control, and their accumulated reserves will last them a long time.
    2. -1
      21 October 2025 10: 15
      Evgeny, you're absolutely right. Today, the globalists' "reformatting" of world civilization is accelerating. It seems the Western global elites have realized that turning China into a controlled branch of their global corporation, a sort of global factory, is simply not feasible, and therefore they must seek ways to conclude a "joint activity agreement" between the two corporations. This suits China just fine. As for relations with Russia, which the globalists plan to relegate to the role of a raw materials appendage, as long as the interests of the local pro-Western elite prevail over national interests in the Russian government, the globalist rabble's attempts to subjugate Russia, including by military means, will continue.
    3. +1
      21 October 2025 11: 23
      Wang Yang is not currently a member of the Chinese party and state leadership.
      1. 0
        21 October 2025 12: 24
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Wang Yang is not currently a member of the Chinese party and state leadership.

        It's true that he's retired, but that doesn't mean he can't play the game. I'm not saying he's aiming to become China's leader, that's what they're saying.
    4. 0
      21 October 2025 17: 24
      China can choose as many Westerners as it wants. Xi was one of them, too. When they want to eat you, you can't make friends.
  10. +13
    21 October 2025 05: 33
    "... it's not entirely clear." It's only clear that it's a dead end... The Ukrainians are stubborn, both in politics and at the front... The Collector of Lands and his team are trying to get by in every possible way - threats and all that. No, it won't work... They'll remember it later worse than Hunchback. smile
  11. +6
    21 October 2025 05: 38
    Let both declare victory, let history decide!
    If the LBS freezes, both sides will have to declare defeat. Zelenskyy lost because there are no borders like 1991, or even 2022, and, naturally, any lingering dreams of coffee in Crimea are ruined. But Putin also lost because there's no denazification, not even demilitarization. And that means the war will resume. I predict: in 7-10 years, when fresh meat grows in/on 404.
    1. +4
      21 October 2025 06: 13
      There's no need to wait for that—as soon as even the semblance of peace is declared, Gayropa will immediately send all the numerous hijackers back to Tsegabonia. Who, as we understand, will immediately wander into the Ukrainian Wehrmacht.
    2. +3
      21 October 2025 10: 18
      Quote: Nagan
      And that means the war will resume. I predict: in 7-10 years, when fresh meat grows up in 404.

      Not necessarily. Korea has had a fragile peace for 70 years.
    3. -2
      21 October 2025 11: 25
      I wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion of Ukrainian youth, and not only youth, moves to the Russian Federation.
      1. 0
        21 October 2025 12: 05
        Looking at this "significant part" in general, in 2014... They're not needed here. We had one of those techs working for us... They crossed themselves when they forced him to leave...
        1. +1
          21 October 2025 12: 17
          People are different, and situations are different. Frankly, it must be acknowledged that sometimes even some people from the new Russian regions, while quite pro-Russian, nevertheless communicate differently from locals in, say, the Black Earth and Non-Black Earth regions. The frequent use of gangster-like language, reminiscent of the 90s, is irritating. The women love to speak very loudly, rivaling Ukrainian women from the central and western regions in their loudness. Again, I'm not talking about everyone. And, I repeat, these people are quite pro-Russian. To be fair, a similar manner of communication is also characteristic of some residents of Rostov-on-Don and Krasnodar.
          1. 0
            21 October 2025 13: 00
            By the way, let's take the neutral Soviet Union. For ten years, I lived in the Kirov region, Saratov, Krasnodar Krai, and Crimea. When you're young, you notice everything, so I perceived these four regions as four different countries. The only thing they had in common was the language, and even that was sometimes unclear.
            1. +3
              21 October 2025 19: 16
              Quote: Gardamir
              perceived these four regions as four different countries

              And that's true in any big country. There are vast differences between Boston and Houston: they dress, behave, speak, and vote differently. And as for New York, it's long been said that New York isn't America, and Brooklyn (for those who don't know, one of New York City's five boroughs) isn't New York.
  12. +10
    21 October 2025 07: 03
    After Gostomel, Zmeiny, and Kherson, it became clear that this entire Second World War would end in a deal—not a treaty, but a deal. There are no preconditions for concluding a peace treaty under current conditions. Absolute victory is possible only with the complete liberation of all Ukrainian territory, but during the entire Second World War, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, and the capitals of the regions incorporated into the Russian Federation, have not been liberated. Although it has been claimed that the Russian economy is the fourth-largest in the world and the second-largest in Europe, the fourth-largest in the world and the second-largest in Europe cannot sustain the Second World War for another four years. I recall that at the very beginning of the Second World War, every author and many commentators wrote that the economy needed to be converted to a war footing. So, what was converted? For example, the Volgograd Tractor Plant? Moreover, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief's words come to mind: we haven't really started fighting yet. But apparently, we still have no intention of doing so. The new negotiations in Budapest are only confirmation of this.
    1. +4
      21 October 2025 07: 28
      It's harsh, but essentially everything was written correctly, there's nothing to object to.
    2. +10
      21 October 2025 08: 45
      Once, on the third day, the Russian side requested negotiations, it was clear that the blitzkrieg had failed, and no one was prepared for a protracted war of attrition.
      The economy hasn't been converted to a war footing most likely because there's simply nothing to convert, as Soviet industry has been "optimized." The problem of personnel in the army and military production also needs to be addressed. Here, too, we face the challenge of optimizing vocational and military schools.
      Migration won't solve the skilled labor problem either. Slave labor, as it was in Nazi Germany at the end of WWII, is still prohibited by law.
      1. +2
        21 October 2025 08: 48
        Excuse me, is this a rebuttal to my comment or an addition?
        1. +6
          21 October 2025 08: 51
          No objections, so here's an addition😊
    3. +5
      21 October 2025 08: 50
      hi The Supreme Commander-in-Chief's words: we haven't really started fighting yet. But judging by everything, we still have no intention of starting.
      It looks more like we can't.
      1. +4
        21 October 2025 08: 53
        It looks more like we can't.

        Knsh, only "old men" go into battle...
    4. -3
      21 October 2025 11: 27
      Fourth in the world and first in Europe in terms of GDP at PPP.
      1. -3
        21 October 2025 12: 20
        The downvoters are official data, including from foreign agencies. Nothing prevents you from double-checking this information.
        1. +3
          21 October 2025 13: 04
          There are different ways to calculate it. I was looking around in my spare time to find out how Russia can make money other than from oil and gas. I was given a list of rich countries in which our country ranks seventieth.
          1. -2
            21 October 2025 13: 25
            What's the connection between countries' PPP-based GDP and the list of rich countries? Among them are many small states with high per capita GDP but small overall GDP. China actually ranks first in the world in PPP-based GDP, but Russia ranks 54th in PPP-based GDP per capita, while China (excluding Hong Kong and Macau) is a whopping 83rd.
            Even the United States, which ranks second in the world by PPP GDP and first in nominal GDP, ranks 11th in PPP GDP per capita and 8th in nominal GDP per capita. Countries like Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Singapore, Qatar, and the Chinese special administrative region of Macau top the list. Although this indicator isn't entirely objective, either. Ireland has very good GDP per capita, but no one considers the Irish themselves to be particularly wealthy on average; they rank 28th in quality of life. So, it's not all that simple. Other indicators must be taken into account, including indicators of income equity within the country. For example, comparing the income gap between the poorest 10-15% and the richest 10-15% of a given country's residents. Or, for example, calculating what percentage of the country's population owns half of the national wealth. And it may turn out that in a country that is poorer by average indicators, but with a more equal distribution of wealth, most people live on average better than in a country that is richer by GDP indicators, but in which income is distributed among the population extremely unevenly and unfairly.
    5. -4
      21 October 2025 13: 26
      I would like to point out that while there are 4 in the world, there are 1 in Europe.
      1.China, 2.USA, 3.India.
  13. +7
    21 October 2025 07: 27
    I think Trump will "bend" our president. Sooner or later.
    A miracle will not happen.
    1. -12
      21 October 2025 09: 09
      The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

      Quote: Million
      I think Trump will "bend" our president.

      More like the other way around.

      Do you know how many times Putin has been "bent over"? And do you know why? Because they're temporary workers, while Putin's a seasoned veteran. He's not one to be fooled! As the saying goes, he's been married for years. He's long understood their rotten nature.
      1. +9
        21 October 2025 09: 14
        Do you know how many of these "bent" ones there are? Putin survived? Do you know why? Because they're temporary workers, while Putin's a seasoned veteran. You can't fool him with chaff! As the saying goes, he's been married for years. He's long understood their rotten nature.
        What about "we were deceived"? Or if you don't remember, then it didn't happen? wassat
        1. -7
          21 October 2025 09: 18
          The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

          Quote: Alexey 1970
          What about "we were deceived"? Or if you don't remember, then it didn't happen?

          1. This is a characteristic of the Russian character. We trust people, but they initially see everyone as an enemy. The West shoots first and thinks later. We think and then shoot. The West lives by the code of thieves: don't trust, don't fear, don't ask... We are different.

          2. We desperately needed time to restructure the army and society.
          1. 0
            22 October 2025 07: 50
            Quote: Boris55
            This is a feature of the Russian character.

            How often were we deceived during the USSR?
            1. +1
              22 October 2025 07: 54
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              How often were we deceived during the USSR?

              "Land to the peasants, factories to the workers, power to the people!"
              Land to collective and state farms, factories to directors, power to officials from the party apparatus.
              Why didn't the people and the army defend Soviet power in 1991????????
              1. 0
                22 October 2025 07: 56
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Why didn't the people and the army defend Soviet power in 1991????????

                I meant international relations, that's it hi
                1. 0
                  22 October 2025 08: 02
                  Sorry smile ...I'm slowing down.
                  I meant international relations

                  It's even worse here...
                  1. 0
                    22 October 2025 08: 03
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    It's even worse here...

                    Boris is simply trying to make us look like some kind of naive fools... it's a shame. hi
                    1. 0
                      22 October 2025 08: 12
                      The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      Boris is trying to make us look like fools.

                      What questions are such and answers.
      2. +8
        21 October 2025 09: 18
        You have a good sense of humor).
        1. -3
          21 October 2025 09: 22
          The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

          Quote: Million
          You have a good sense of humor).

          Let's bet a thousand that I'm right?
          1. -6
            21 October 2025 11: 17
            Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

            You have a good sense of humor).

            He gave up. He didn't want to argue, he realized he would lose. laughing hi
      3. +7
        21 October 2025 13: 43
        And who did our "sparrow" bend? At most, he sat it out and waited for interest to fade due to a change in power. But when it came to policy continuity or similar "zeroed" policies, he was bent. Oh, and there were also the solemn "shots in the foot" for television, like the "food sanctions" against Europe, after which a new variety of "Polish apples" from Belarus and shrimp from the seas beyond appeared in our stores, and prices rose.
        As for Trump, he's not interested in this whole SVO thing; he's interested in China and the European markets, but while the Europeans are spending money to support Ukraine, and we're increasingly falling under China's thumb, he's forced to get distracted.
  14. +4
    21 October 2025 08: 23
    Biryukov's article is always a plus. But.

    Some ultra-patriotic bloggers and users have a negative attitude towards the idea of ​​freezing the conflict and suspending the SVO, however objective reality is this

    The objective reality is that in a war of attrition, the winner is the one with the greatest willpower (the most important resource of all) and the one who is capable of seeing it through to the end. Otherwise, there would have been no point in starting. But who am I saying this for?
    1. +6
      21 October 2025 08: 39
      "War must be fought for real, or not at all. There can be no middle ground." (c) More than 100 years ago, a smart man wrote... And here we are making a middle ground out of the SVO. Maybe it will do. One hero of a certain literary work also hoped for a chance, but after the third click, the spirit left the old man. Now, this cautionary tale is banned by the Russian Orthodox Church... You need to read the classics, the classics... laughing
      1. +8
        21 October 2025 08: 48
        Quote: parusnik
        "The war must be fought for real, or it must not be fought at all. There can be no middle way."

        I've repeatedly been convinced that Vladimir Ilyich was a genius. But we (the bureaucracy and the elite) treat our giants with disdain and extol mediocrities.
        1. +2
          21 October 2025 08: 52
          To hell with Ilyich, he's no authority for the current government. But is A.S. Pushkin our everything? His tale of the priest and his worker Balda is a clear message that one can't rely on the Russian "maybe." laughing
          1. +7
            21 October 2025 09: 25
            Well, what's the big deal? Until recently, Miller's salary was around five million. in a dayNow Gazprom's profits have fallen, and Miller has argued that the entire nation must now bear the costs.
            1. +1
              21 October 2025 11: 02
              Quote: Gardamir
              The costs must be borne by the whole people.

              This happened in the 2000s, when gas was sold to the fraternal Ukrainians for less than to their own population. The SVO should have started with a purge within the country, but that's not possible under the current roundworm.
        2. -2
          21 October 2025 10: 20
          Quote: Stas157
          More than once I am convinced that Vladimir Ilyich was a brilliant man.

          Well, that's why I rushed to sign a separate peace with Germany. Although back then, there was no other option.
          1. +2
            21 October 2025 10: 59
            This is known now, but at that time the Germans were 35 km from Petrograd.
  15. -2
    21 October 2025 08: 31
    Whatever happens, whatever happens, it'll be the same as always. Donnie's one thing today, another tomorrow. Whatever mood he wakes up in the morning carries with him all day. It's like the first time. Today he's kissing you passionately, tomorrow he's threatening you with everything imaginable.
    1. +3
      21 October 2025 08: 59
      hi
      Whatever will be, will be, but it will be as always

      We wanted the best, but it turned out as always... laughing
      1. +3
        21 October 2025 09: 08
        Cloudless sky, no wind in the morning...
        The weather vanes stick out in great difficulty:
        No matter how they try to guess, they can’t achieve it,
        Which way should they turn? (C)
        This is what happens when there are no solid principles, and instead of principles there is empty talk.
        1. +1
          22 October 2025 22: 41
          instead of principles, empty talk.

          Remember the Provisional Government
      2. +3
        21 October 2025 09: 33
        It's a shame they laugh at Chernomyrdin. There's such profound philosophy in his statements.
  16. -13
    21 October 2025 08: 41
    By the time Putin arrives, we should have more troops in Hungary than the Hungarians, with heavy weapons and fully deployed. Orban might not betray us (not a given), but there are plenty of guys there who consider Putin the only obstacle to a Western victory. And they won't hesitate to intervene. And the murderers will occupy every rooftop and upper floor of the capital. Putin's personal fearlessness is impressive. But in response to an attack, we'll have to bomb Europe with nuclear weapons, so it might be worth thinking about it...
    1. 0
      21 October 2025 10: 21
      Quote: Mikhail3
      In response to the attack, Europe will have to be bombed with nuclear weapons.

      Is this for Putin's sake? Isn't it too much just for one pensioner?
      1. -2
        21 October 2025 10: 29
        The usual opinion of one liberal.
        1. 0
          21 October 2025 10: 56
          And you, not a liberal, whose side are you? So tell us, why is the life of some Kremlin philistine more important than the thousands of lives of residents of the Kursk or Belgorod regions, who are constantly under fire? And why haven't nuclear weapons been used because of their deaths, if the Constitution requires the state to defend not only its territory but also the lives of its citizens?
          1. -7
            21 October 2025 11: 28
            Why should I tell you anything? You know everything and you're sure of everything. Everything you need is written in your manual. You're posting it here, paragraph after paragraph, and that's all your brain can handle. There's no room for anything else anyway.
            1. 0
              21 October 2025 12: 09
              At least I have a brain, unlike you. You can only use your skull to take in food and eat what's being fed to you. And you can't even answer a question because you'd just shit yourself anyway.
  17. -8
    21 October 2025 08: 56
    Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

    Quote: V. Biryukov
    A new fork in the road awaits us – either a new wave of escalation, ... or a ceasefire and suspension of the military conflict

    I believe in Ze, he won’t allow this!

    Our demands are the liberation of all our constitutional lands, the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops, all paramilitary groups (gangs), and their disarmament. Martial law must be lifted, and elections must be held within 100 days. There must be no foreign representatives on Ukrainian territory—the Ukrainian people must decide their own fate.
    In short, something like this.
  18. +1
    21 October 2025 08: 58
    There are no preconditions for a deal, i.e., a compromise, either on the Russian side—Peskov speaks of Russia's unchangeable position—or on the Ukrainian side—Zelensky will never agree to give up or exchange part of Ukrainian territory for Ukrainian territory.
    Behind Trump's attempt to strike a deal with Russia is China and a desire to "cool" their "strategic" partnership.
    The problem is that for the EU, decolonization and defragmentation of the Russian Federation is more important, and this is the essence of their disagreements.
  19. 0
    21 October 2025 09: 42
    The U.S.A. won't leave us alone, 100%, they'll continue to strangle us, they just need a break now - to gather strength, prepare better, maybe even take on China for now, they have a tougher competitor than Russia, and then they'll come back, no matter what am
  20. +1
    21 October 2025 09: 45
    Well, that was a good time. laughing We're grinding. We've been grinding, grinding, grinding, grinding, and will we continue to grind? When we've crushed all the enemy's personnel, all their weapons, and all the aid from unfriendly countries, then will we win? And when that happens, "no one will tell you," well, great, then the best plan is to have no plans or deadlines, and just let things unfold.
    1. +3
      21 October 2025 10: 35
      ... well, great, then the best plan is to have no plans or deadlines, and just let everything go as it goes

      In principle, this is what many are hoping for, but... there is a nuance: it ("nuance") is clearly visible when you drive past the cemetery often...
  21. +2
    21 October 2025 15: 39
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    The freezing of the SVO is a political defeat for the Kremlin.

    Interestingly, this is largely a consequence of the constant declarations: "all goals must be achieved." Although they are no strangers to disavowing their own promises...
  22. -1
    21 October 2025 15: 41
    Quote: Boris55
    Our demands are the liberation of all our constitutional lands, the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops and any paramilitary groups (gangs), and their disarmament. Martial law must be lifted, and elections must be held within 100 days.

    What about denazification? Is that no longer part of your demands?
  23. -4
    21 October 2025 15: 42
    Quote: Prometey
    Quote: Mikhail3
    In response to the attack, Europe will have to be bombed with nuclear weapons.

    Is this for Putin's sake? Isn't it too much just for one pensioner?

    Firstly, he's not retired. And secondly, many people right now want to bomb, and not just Europe.
  24. -4
    21 October 2025 18: 05
    Still, we must also consider the psychological factor. As soon as they hear about the negotiations, the Ukrainian fascists become inspired and, shouting "beat the faggots," rush back into battle.
  25. 0
    21 October 2025 19: 46
    Briefly and to the point, regarding the possibility of another meeting between our Supreme Leader and the US President in Budapest: "Promising to marry doesn't mean actually getting married..." Any outcome of the (possible) Budapest "get-together" is fraught, for Russia, with a state known in chess and checkers as "zuzwang"... Is Russia ready for such a turn of events? There is a certain opinion that it is unlikely... So desperately "PR" the upcoming "Summit of the Century," with proposals (solutions) from every domestic iron that are quite understandable for Russia, is a very dubious undertaking, considering the "results" of the "get-together" in Anchorage... Although...
  26. -1
    21 October 2025 21: 17
    Trump is simply afraid that we will cross the river, since Odessa is on the other bank.

    That's why he's pushing ideas about a demarcation line that only he wants. He's insisting on our losses and so on, while making fun of the fact that we have goals and objectives.
    All he has is a beaten, crested dog and a tomahawk up his sleeve. True, that tomahawk might bounce right back at his forehead.
  27. -1
    22 October 2025 07: 01
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    You have an exaggerated opinion about the capabilities of the people.

    Not at all... it will be reminiscent of Yeltsin's end... of course it won't be instantaneous... who will trust a president who killed thousands of people like that. what
  28. 0
    22 October 2025 11: 43
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    It's also naive to claim that at 70+, performance is no worse than at 40, and the brain works twice as well, due to experience... it's sad, but the concept of age is not abolished...

    I agree, if it's the same person. But in life, it happens that some people in their 70s and older are far superior to others in their 40s—if not in all respects, then in many.
  29. 0
    22 October 2025 18: 48
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    But sanctions are only good for us.

    For you, maybe. But for most Russians, definitely not.