We'll complete the plan ahead of schedule: the first "pre-prototype" of the M1E3 tank is planned for release by the end of this year.

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We'll complete the plan ahead of schedule: the first "pre-prototype" of the M1E3 tank is planned for release by the end of this year.


The Abrams is obsolete – a new Abrams is needed


Two years ago, the US military, together with officials involved in the defense industry, made the final decision that Tanks The M1A2 Abrams no longer has a future—it's just a matter of survival. In other words, developing and implementing new upgrades without radical design changes isn't really practical. Therefore, the SEP v.4 upgrade package, which was intended to polish the most recent Abrams modification, the M1A2 SEP v.3, was canceled during the testing phase.



The reasons for this are quite clear. Since the Abrams entered service, its weight, thanks to numerous upgrades, has exceeded 65 tons, which has not only impacted its transportability and cross-country performance but also limited the ability to further enhance its protection and increase the weapon's firepower. Its gas turbine engine also consumes a significant amount of fuel, and the tank's overall architecture imposes significant limitations on the integration of electronics, including active protection systems.

In light of this, a decision was made to focus on a thorough redesign of the Abrams concept, designated M1E3. The plan is to eliminate all the shortcomings of its predecessors: it should be lighter due to a revised layout, consume less fuel thanks to a new powerplant, have extensive capabilities for integrating all kinds of electronics, and much more—much has been discussed and written about, so there's no point in dwelling on the appearance of the future vehicle.

What's much more interesting here is that the Americans are seriously determined to speed up the development of the future tank, so much so that the first product under this program is to be manufactured by the end of this year, and the first platoon of tank prototypes next year.

Apparently they've made their choice.


Initial plans called for the M1E3 to reach initial operational capability by the early 2030s. This meant that the first batches of tanks, having already undergone the relevant testing and certification, were supposed to be ready for limited service by that time. This timeframe is actually quite reasonable, as this isn't just a superficial upgrade. However, senior military officials weren't entirely pleased with this state of affairs.

Here's how Alex Miller, the Army's chief technical officer and senior science and technology adviser to the Chief of Staff, commented in an interview with Defense News:

The long and short of it is, when the Chief of Staff [of the Army, General Randy George] and I went to Detroit 18 months ago, the PEO team said we wouldn't see the M1E3 until 2032. And we said no...

...[We] set a task for them, set a task for General Dynamics. I want to have a tank by the end of the year, and by the end of next year we need a platoon...

This statement is certainly quite interesting, considering that work on determining what kind of tank the army needs has been ongoing for many years. Essentially, it's a sign that the design and functionality of the future vehicle have already become sufficiently clear: the first prototype is expected by the end of the year, meaning the discussion is moving from concepts to specifics. At the same time, it's clear that the high command is willing to push harder to expedite the process, moving the project into the phase of real, visible implementation.

Of course, we're not talking about a fully-fledged production tank yet, but rather an early, still rather crude prototype. The first platoon, scheduled for 2026, will also be prototypes, ready for testing, but not intended for full-scale operation. Nevertheless, it can be said that the Americans have already taken the first significant—indeed, a leap forward—step toward accelerating the development of the M1E3.

Acceleration


This move was likely made possible by one single reason: General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS), the prime contractor for the M1E3 project, didn't reinvent the wheel and simply put forward its AbramsX design, which it unveiled to the public three years ago, as the basis for the project. Moreover, there are simply no companies in the US capable of truly competing with GDLS and capable of developing an alternative tank design.


However, the AbramsX itself meets the military's general requirements. They even managed to cram everything into it in a "luxury and expensive" manner, with the aim of demonstrating its capabilities and attracting the interest of a potential customer, the US Department of Defense. And there's plenty to see in the fully equipped version—we've already written about it here.

The unmanned turret and other modifications make the M1E3 weigh just 49 tons, which is almost 17 tons less than the M1A2 SEP v3. It features two panoramic sights and observation devices for the commander and gunner. Any communications system, neural networks, and other electronics can be integrated, including an active protection system, as part of the tank's design, rather than as an external add-on. And thanks to the hybrid powertrain—Miller confirmed that this is what the M1E3 will feature—the vehicle consumes nearly 40-50% less fuel than a gas turbine engine.

Of course, the GDLS project, whatever its final form, could undergo many changes. However, it will incorporate many solutions that are completely new to American tank design. This includes the fire control system (if the turret is unmanned, difficulties will clearly arise), the hybrid powertrain, and the gun autoloader, which, according to Miller, will also be included in the tank.

All these solutions, and the tank itself (essentially its concept), currently exist only as design models and calculations. Before production can begin, even in the context of prototypes, the project must undergo a critical and final design review—a comprehensive analysis of whether the vehicle is ready for production. At these stages, engineers and the customer are required to determine and confirm that the selected technologies are sufficiently mature and safe, that all systems and components are coordinated, and that technological and financial risks are minimized.


This is essentially a kind of "passport" for the vehicle, proving that it can be produced and tested, and that any problems (and they certainly will be during testing) will be minor, without the risk of reworking the entire project and losing billions. These procedures are mandatory, as they can effectively protect the state from unjustified waste of funds and ensure production plans are not disrupted. However, in the time frame from the start of tank development to the release of functional prototypes, they can take a significant amount of time.

Miller proposes to shorten these procedures:

...We understand that there are many procedural issues that we, the government, address. Things like critical project review and final project review are government processes...

...But if it does not threaten the soldier's life, health, sight or hearing, we must be able to speed up these processes....

...There are absolutely necessary things we must do, but to look at the problem mindlessly for three or four years is stupid and unacceptable...

At the same time, it proposes prioritizing the safe operation of prototypes that are not yet fully developed, meaning confirming that during pilot testing and trials, the prototypes will not kill, maim, or cause any significant harm to the health of operators. This, in turn, will give tankers a head start: they will receive the M1E3 sooner and be able to test it sooner.

...We want to release the Platoon sooner because we want the tank brigades to be able to tell us what works and what doesn't. Then, instead of waiting another three or four years, we'll get feedback, let GD make those changes, and then release the next version next year...

We didn't want the tanker to see the new tank for the first time when it's already finished and nothing can be changed, which will happen in six years. We want feedback on the seats. Feedback on the sight. Feedback on the autoloader...

In other words, the new strategy described by Miller is to get the first operational prototypes as soon as possible. They want to achieve this by both speeding up the procedures leading up to vehicle production and by literally finishing the tanks as they go. They're saying, "We don't intend to wait for the final version—give us a prototype right away, we'll test it in the field, and then we'll tell you what we're unhappy with, and you can fix it." That way, we'll save time and make the necessary changes.

It's not specified how many "next versions" of the tank they plan to produce before it's finally polished. But the idea is intriguing, as it allows not only for flaws to be identified early on but also for adjustments to the design to meet ever-changing threats—the largest conflict in Europe since World War II will provide clues. But it's a double-edged sword.

On the one hand, this is actually a good thing, as the manufacturer receives immediate feedback and addresses any issues identified. This is essentially how it should be, to avoid the end result being a vehicle that's patently outdated or out of touch with combat realities. Simplifying or speeding up tank design approval procedures within reasonable limits would also be beneficial—there's not just a fair amount of bureaucracy, but a tremendous amount.

On the other hand, the key is not to overdo it. Indulging in every single military wish list (and there will be plenty of them, and they will be pouring in) and rushing tank design evaluations with the "oh well, maybe not everything works, we'll finish it later" mentality could turn the M1E3 into a ruthless, constantly-reworked, over-budget project. In the worst case, it could even end up like the FCS (Future Combat System).

It's essentially walking a tightrope. A step to the right or a step to the left could have dire consequences. Therefore, one must be careful when rushing, because, as the saying goes, "hasten, and thou shalt make fools of themselves."
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  1. +4
    21 October 2025 03: 32
    There are as many as two panoramic sighting devices for the commander and gunner.

    The Americans were already promoting this idea of ​​interchangeability between turret gunners back in the 80s. Not "commander" and "gunner," but "commander" and "deputy commander." At least in this project, both are in the hull.
    1. +2
      21 October 2025 17: 20
      Quote from: ln_ln
      The Americans were already promoting this idea of ​​interchangeability between tower builders back in the 80s.

      If I remember correctly, at the end of the Cold War, the entire NATO was drooling over this idea. The main obstacle was the cost—one sight was expensive, and here two were needed.
  2. +7
    21 October 2025 03: 50
    Armata? So far, the military thinks alike.
    1. +9
      21 October 2025 04: 09
      Quote: MCmaximus
      Armata? So far, the military thinks alike.


      The evolutionary development of tanks likely follows certain patterns. First, an automatic loading mechanism, then an unmanned turret, and ultimately, a robotic system.
      Have a nice day, everyone!
    2. +2
      21 October 2025 22: 12
      What about the Armata? Does it have a hybrid powertrain? Or is it just the unmanned turret and automatic loader? They've made similar vehicles before.
  3. +3
    21 October 2025 05: 19
    The new strategy described by Miller is to get the first operational prototypes as soon as possible. They want to achieve this by both speeding up the procedures leading up to vehicle production and by literally finishing the tanks as they go. They say, "We don't intend to wait for the final version—give us a prototype right away, we'll test it in the field, and then we'll tell you what we're unhappy with, and you can fix it." That way, we'll save time and make the necessary changes.
    It seems logical; it speeds up the process of fine-tuning the vehicle. On the other hand, what if something completely unacceptable turns out to be wrong? Say, the new power plant is designed and built with a critical error? Then the project risks not just being delayed, but collapsing...
  4. +4
    21 October 2025 06: 40
    At first, they chose Rucker, even presented it, they did a good job of cleaning it up, but it didn't work out. Another company pushed their own version, and now others will be cleaning it up :))
    1. +5
      21 October 2025 11: 30
      First they chose Rucker

      Probably Booker.
    2. +4
      21 October 2025 15: 27
      These are different vehicles for different types of units. The M10 Booker was issued to light infantry brigades—Infantry Brigade Combat Teams (IBCTs)—and, according to American military theorists, was not a tank, but an infantry fire support vehicle (similar to the M10 GMC self-propelled gun from World War II). However, the M10 Booker turned out to be too heavy for infantry brigades (whose only vehicles were various wheeled MRAPs) and obsolete, based on the experience of the Soviet Air Defense Forces.
      The M1 Abrams tank equips heavy armored brigades - Armored Brigade Combat Teams (ABCT).
      Therefore, you can’t compare the Abrams tank and the M10 Booker.
  5. +2
    21 October 2025 07: 41
    designers create a new art object
    1. +4
      21 October 2025 11: 50
      Quote: th.kuzmichev
      designers create a new art object

      The cute LED cornering light clusters are especially touching. Inside, as is typical of premium cars, everything is also covered in beautiful color-changing LEDs. Even Chinese cars are starting to look like Christmas trees.😀😀
      1. 0
        22 October 2025 14: 30
        Well, it's also a useful thing for a march.
      2. 0
        15 January 2026 10: 49
        Quote from: lukash66
        Even the Chinese cars are starting to look like Christmas trees.😀😀

        Why even... they've always had this... I remember the Chinese tape recorders from the 90s with a bunch of light bulbs everywhere laughing
  6. +9
    21 October 2025 10: 32
    The evolution of the main battle tank is underway, with an unmanned turret, automatic loader, and automatic protection system.
    1. +2
      21 October 2025 15: 33
      Quote: dragon772
      The evolution of the main battle tank is underway, with an unmanned turret, automatic loader, and automatic protection system.

      ...and a hybrid powertrain that provides:
      - low noise when driving on electric motors
      - low IR signature
      - economical fuel consumption
      - providing power supply for existing and future systems: sensors, electronic warfare, electronic defense systems, active defense systems, laser and microwave systems for combating UAVs, electrochemical guns, etc.
    2. +1
      23 October 2025 09: 15
      Tanks now have a serious problem: infantry can see and fire at them from 7 km away or even further, while tanks often can't see infantry at all beyond 500 meters. Tanks have become less self-sufficient, and therefore the entire battlefield and the requirements for their design are changing dramatically.
  7. +3
    21 October 2025 10: 34
    Hmm... Parallel operation and refinement is very reminiscent of Musk's rocket design methodology. There are results there :)
    1. +2
      21 October 2025 11: 28
      Parallel exploitation and refinement is very similar to Musk's method for designing rockets.

      We have examples here too. Around 100 prototypes were made during the development of the T-80. But apparently, none of them made it to military service.
    2. +3
      21 October 2025 12: 40
      Quote: Not the fighter
      Hmm... Parallel operation and refinement is very reminiscent of Musk's rocket design methodology. There are results there :)

      We can also recall the Germans, who, to reduce the timeframe for putting future Tiger tanks into production in 1941, ordered three experimental vehicles for testing and 100 pilot production vehicles from each of the competition participants. The winner was able to quickly produce production tanks. The loser (Porsche) produced Ferdinands. smile
      1. 0
        23 October 2025 09: 16
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And the loser (Porsche) gave out Ferdinands.
        I'll add that this is his prototype of a tiger that started riding backwards.
  8. +4
    21 October 2025 10: 48
    Where is the anti-drone protection?
    1. +5
      21 October 2025 11: 38
      Quote: stankow
      Where is the anti-drone protection?

      Yep, in a special model for the state of Georgia! laughing
      Seriously, the Americans have only just begun to ditch the black-armored pumping system in favor of an automatic loader. The concept presented has an unmanned turret, and you want a barbecue right away…!
  9. +3
    21 October 2025 11: 02
    All of this is interesting and even informative in places. However, the question remains: where will this be done? The plant in Lima, Ohio, is fully booked upgrading Abrams and Bradleys for years to come. Based on their capabilities and the number of customers, it's likely to last for ten years, maybe more. There are simply no other plants.
    1. +4
      21 October 2025 12: 42
      Quote: TermNachTER
      All this is interesting and even informative in places))) however, there is a question - where will this be done?

      Rebuilding the Detroit Arsenal? That's perfectly MAGA-esque. smile
      1. +2
        21 October 2025 13: 52
        Is there anything left to restore? A friend of mine, though it's been a while, was in Detroit. He wrote back, absolutely stunned. You could film a post-apocalyptic horror movie right in the city center, no Hollywood soundstages needed. The city center is full of abandoned houses, broken windows and doors, and grass growing through the asphalt. The mayor is black, and he's the first city in the US to default. Do you think the factory is in better shape?
        1. +3
          21 October 2025 14: 18
          Quote: TermNachTER
          And is there anything to restore?

          And there's a painfully familiar scene. Most of the plant's land has been handed over to the City of Warren for civilian use. And the remaining military buildings house the offices of military command.

          Effective management... effective management never changes. laughing
          1. +2
            21 October 2025 14: 57
            Of course, it's easier to build a new plant)))
        2. 0
          22 October 2025 14: 34
          There are many such cities on the West Coast, and in the States in general.
          Half is in ruins, and the other half seems to be normal.
          There are many abandoned, even well-built brick houses. As soon as the neighbors become toxic or you don't pay your taxes, the house's value drops to zero.
          There are currently hundreds of thousands of retirees in the United States who have been forced to file for or abandon their homes because they cannot pay for their maintenance and upkeep.
          Even in cities like Los Angeles, there are entire neighborhoods that look like they were after a nuclear war.
          1. 0
            22 October 2025 14: 45
            I know, one of my three friends from the States lives near Los Angeles. He lives in a small town where conditions are still bearable, though.
  10. +2
    21 October 2025 17: 16
    Before formulating a design, it's necessary to answer the main question: Who is the gun intended for? At the dawn of tank design, a gun was needed to destroy infantry and fire positions. Then, the widespread use of tanks created a new challenge: destroying enemy tanks, and guns grew dramatically in length. Today, what is the likelihood of encountering an enemy tank on the battlefield? The main enemies are drones, mines, and infantry with grenade launchers and ATGMs; tanks are a distant second. To reach a tank, you'd have to cross a minefield under attack from drones. So, is a heavy, long-barreled gun necessary?
    1. +1
      23 October 2025 09: 20
      Quote: Puncher
      Tanks are in last place.

      Well, yes, at the last one. The SVO group has about 2 of them, maybe more.
      I didn’t fight there, I was just passing by on my own business and I saw at least 30 of them.
      There are plenty of them there. Perhaps the chance of encountering a Zhiguli on the road in a large city is lower than that of encountering a tank in the SVO zone.
  11. 0
    21 October 2025 21: 28
    A thin upper glacis plate with three huge sliding hatches housing glass-block periscope instruments... While the M1 Abrams was a well-thought-out design in terms of protection against the weapons of its time, this M1E3, which the same drones will attack from above through its thin upper glacis plate, is far from a masterpiece.

    I can already write now - it’s an unsuccessful design.
    1. +2
      22 October 2025 12: 53
      Quote: AlexanderA
      A thin upper glacis plate with three huge sliding hatches housing glass-block periscope instruments... While the M1 Abrams was a well-thought-out design in terms of protection against the weapons of its time, this M1E3, which the same drones will attack from above through its thin upper glacis plate, is far from a masterpiece.

      I can already write now - it’s an unsuccessful design.


      The Abrams tank seems to never exist.
      wasn't strong on the top of the front

      No matter how weak they are on their own top and other modern tanks, that is their crisis with modern means of destruction in any part of the operator’s choice.
      1. 0
        22 October 2025 14: 38
        Abrams used highly differentiated armor; these tanks were relatively weak on the sides, and machine guns could easily penetrate them from behind. But the latest modification is designed for urban combat—it has so much armor scattered around the perimeter that infantry would have difficulty penetrating it.
      2. +1
        22 October 2025 23: 54
        Quote: Eng Mech
        The Abrams tank never seemed to have a strong upper front.

        The shell's impact angle there was very acute. Even APFSDS rounds (which aren't prone to ricochets) ricocheted. Unless they got caught on the driver's hatch and forced their way through, killing him with a stream of shrapnel to the head.

        Today, the main threat isn't the APFSDS or KS of tank guns. And there are as many as three hatches in a row on the upper glacis plate of this M1E3. I've attached a video visualizing the calculation of whether an APFSDS round ricochets or not on the upper glacis plate of an Abrams:

        1. 0
          23 October 2025 04: 04
          Quote: AlexanderA

          Today, the main threat is by no means the APFSDS and KS of tank guns.


          Perhaps they hope that the front of the turret will act as a kind of barbecue for the crew compartment.

          We will see
          1. +1
            23 October 2025 09: 11
            I think the key to protection against drones lies in the long-traveled path of armoring battleships, where everything important was stupidly hidden deep down and it was simply impossible for anything light to penetrate there.
            An example is the placement of coal cellars as protection. Tanks should also be redesigned to surround them with a perimeter of unimportant mechanisms, components, and screens. And the hatches should be equipped with something resembling a vestibule. Then drones will have a very difficult time doing anything. I recently saw an example: an unremarkable striker was so well-armored that only the 11th drone hit was guaranteed to knock it out. And that's not a tank—it's just a huge, lightly armored shed on wheels.
            1. 0
              23 October 2025 09: 59
              Quote: multicaat
              I think the key to protection against drones lies in the long-traveled path of armoring battleships, where everything important was stupidly hidden deep down and it was simply impossible for anything light to penetrate there.
              An example is the placement of coal cellars as protection. Tanks should also be redesigned to surround them with a perimeter of unimportant mechanisms, components, and screens. And the hatches should be equipped with something resembling a vestibule. Then drones will have a very difficult time doing anything. I recently saw an example: an unremarkable striker was so well-armored that only the 11th drone hit was guaranteed to knock it out. And that's not a tank—it's just a huge, lightly armored shed on wheels.


              Maybe yes

              And how did they cover him there? Is there a link to a video or pictures?

              Did he represent anything in terms of weapons and/or landing forces or not?

              If there was nothing in it initially, then it’s not surprising.

              I read somewhere that during WWII, when our people were trying to understand what the Germans' cumulative charge was.

              They sent a stripped-down T-34 crew (with only one shell in the gun), which was lying on the floor to observe the consequences of the Faustpatrone shelling.

              Thank you.
              1. 0
                23 October 2025 10: 07
                Quote: Eng Mech
                Did he represent anything in terms of weapons and/or landing forces or not?

                It was just an APC, without any troops. I couldn't see anything on top of the turret. It was covered with screens, reinforcement, and all sorts of vertically hanging strips.
            2. +1
              23 October 2025 10: 05
              Quote: multicaat
              For example, the placement of coal storage facilities as a protective structure. Tanks, too, need to be redesigned to have a perimeter of non-essential mechanisms, components, and shields around them.

              Name, off the top of my head, five large, yet insignificant, mechanisms and parts in a tank.

              Quote: multicaat
              And the hatches should be equipped with something similar to a vestibule.

              You'll be lucky to fit through a hatch like that. In a tank.

              Don't write about tanks anymore, it's not your thing.
              1. +1
                23 October 2025 10: 13
                Quote: Paranoid62
                Don't write about tanks anymore, it's not your thing.

                Tanks are definitely not my thing, but misinterpreting what's written isn't your responsibility either. You didn't even try to come up with anything constructive.
                Quote: Paranoid62
                Name, off the top of my head, five large, yet insignificant, mechanisms and parts in a tank.

                a box with tools and all sorts of useful junk
                spare tank
                box of cartridges
                empty cartridge storage
                spare tracks or rollers
                screens and the space between them, anti-cumulative filler, etc.
                1. 0
                  23 October 2025 10: 24
                  Quote: multicaat
                  a box with tools and all sorts of useful junk

                  Already outside, behind and on the sides of the tower.

                  Quote: multicaat
                  spare tank

                  Tanks, lots of them. External. On the fenders. Also external.

                  Quote: multicaat
                  empty cartridge storage

                  Machine gun shells are on the floor. Cannon shells have combustible cartridges, the tray is ejected from the tank after firing. Completely.

                  Quote: multicaat
                  spare tracks or rollers

                  The tracks are in the spare parts boxes (which are outside), spare rollers are in the repair battalion.

                  Quote: multicaat
                  screens and the space between them, anti-cumulative filler, etc.

                  And this no longer applies to

                  Quote: multicaat
                  minor mechanisms, parts

                  Don't get carried away wink

                  Quote: multicaat
                  Tanks are definitely not my thing.

                  Absolutely. So don't write about them anymore. Yes
                  1. +1
                    23 October 2025 11: 01
                    Quote: Paranoid62
                    So don't write about them anymore.

                    You are like a fish that doesn't realize there is water around.
                    Machine guns - on the floor.

                    can be placed along the side
                    The tracks are in the spare parts boxes (which are outside)

                    Where are these boxes? They're just hanging around, and they could be used as part of the shielding.
                    Tanks, lots of them. External. On the fenders.

                    Why are they hanging there again like ballast? There's a more useful place.
                    Quote: Paranoid62
                    Already outside, behind and on the sides of the tower.

                    The goal is drone protection. The turret's side is at least 70mm thick, so there's no need to protect it from drones—it can be remounted.

                    Well, and so on, it just needs a rearrangement, which can improve security
                    Regarding the vestibule, you probably thought we were talking about a submarine or a space station, but we're talking about a structure similar to an airlock for contaminated zones; it shouldn't slow down the tanker.
                    And yes for those who are in the tank, once you weren’t a tanker either, but now you are.
                    1. 0
                      23 October 2025 13: 31
                      Quote: multicaat
                      can be placed along the side

                      2000 machine gun casings, PK T90 ammo - 2000 rounds. Awesome protection. And yes, to do this, we need to come up with a mechanism for transporting these casings out... to arrange them along the side. One by one. And then implement it. Not a small task, forward, to the mines. The exhaust is zero, I warn you... 2000 casings
                      7.62... yuck.

                      Quote: multicaat
                      Where are these boxes? They're just hanging around, and they could be used as part of the shielding.

                      The back and sides of the turret. Look at the pictures, there are plenty of them on Google, everything is visible there. laughing

                      Quote: multicaat

                      Quote: Paranoid62
                      Tanks, lots of them. External. On fenders.

                      Why are they hanging there again like ballast? There's a more useful place.

                      Name a "more useful" place. Let's laugh together.

                      Quote: multicaat
                      We're talking about a design similar to the contamination zone gateway; it shouldn't slow down the tanker.

                      Bring the design to the studio. We'll have a laugh together too.

                      Quote: multicaat
                      You are like a fish that doesn't realize there is water around it.

                      IMHO, in this particular case, I'm like someone trying to explain a toilet to an alien. I admit, it's difficult, it's practically impossible. request

                      Well, don't write about tanks anymore. Ninada Yes
                      1. +1
                        23 October 2025 14: 39
                        It's strange, I actually rode in a tank, but as a passenger.
                        And you're trying to make it sound like I haven't even seen them and don't understand what I'm talking about. First, we need to consider whether it's worth continuing to build tanks with the super-dense layout that the USSR had. While it makes sense now, the threats have changed dramatically. The threat of an APCR round is about half a percent of the total, and tanks are designed specifically against armor-piercing rounds; that's just tradition.
                        You think that the tank is like in the Bible - it has reached the ideal and there is nothing left to change.
                        So, here's a question for you: the T72 and T90 chassis have an old gearbox, which is one of the worst designs of all modern tanks, including the T62 and T80. Do you think it doesn't need replacing? Or if that's not entirely true, why the reluctance to even consider redesigning it? I don't know the details of the T72B3 or T90's design—I've only seen them from the outside—but instead of offering advice and discussing them, you're trolling my ignorance of their internals. Is this normal? Or were you not given the necessary self-affirmation as a child?
                      2. -1
                        23 October 2025 14: 45
                        Quote: multicaat
                        I don't know the details of the T72B3 or T90—I've only seen them from the outside—but instead of offering advice and discussing them, you're trolling my ignorance of their internals. Is that normal?

                        Absolutely. Because, as the classic already wrote, you're trying to give cosmic-scale advice and cosmic stupidity, without being completely up-to-date on the topic at hand. So, what can you do with people like that? Just troll them a little. request
                      3. +1
                        23 October 2025 15: 14
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        You are trying to give advice of cosmic proportions and cosmic stupidity.

                        You're the one making this up. I told you we need to reorganize and tried to SUGGEST what to do. Or do you think I can't make you look stupid on certain issues? Where's the basic respect? Instead, this is some kind of malicious trolling. I repeat: someone prevented you from asserting yourself as a child, and you're trying to make up for it at my expense?
                      4. -1
                        23 October 2025 15: 19
                        Quote: multicaat
                        Let me repeat - did someone prevent you from asserting yourself as a child and are you trying to make up for it at my expense?

                        Getting personal is a classic sign of a lack of argumentation. Don't make it worse.

                        Quote: multicaat
                        I already said that a reorganization was needed and I tried to SUGGEST what to do

                        What you've said is nonsense. Where and what exactly—it was broken down for you above, component by component. Don't make it worse.

                        In general, trying to give advice in areas you don't understand is an extremely unhealthy practice. I understand, I hope. hi
                      5. +1
                        23 October 2025 15: 33
                        Advice? I'm not trying to give advice, but to point out what real options there are.
                        You, as a consumer, are just making fun of me. I'm not a tanker and I don't know the details, I don't know the intricacies of tank operation, but surely there are some things that everyone understands?
                        For example, about a third of drones fly into hatches. These hatches are either open, mostly because there's no air conditioning, or they're poorly protected from direct hits. The problem is obvious. Solutions? There are zero convenient solutions.
                        Well, at least the footage doesn't show the driver's hatches being covered in any way. And all your and others' professed knowledge of tanks didn't help. Are you suggesting we make fun of the tank crews who got into trouble?
                        Or will you clench your teeth and at least try to discuss the issue constructively? Or will you blindfold yourself with a St. George's ribbon and pretend the problem doesn't exist?
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                        23 October 2025 15: 39
                        Quote: multicaat
                        You, as a consumer, are making fun of it.

                        I was once a tank driver, you see. request laughing

                        Quote: multicaat
                        The hatches are open mainly because there is no air conditioning.

                        You said stupidity.

                        Quote: multicaat
                        or poorly protected from direct hits

                        Yes, the hatches were not originally intended for this purpose.

                        Quote: multicaat
                        There are no convenient solutions.

                        Barbecue. That's it for now. You haven't come up with anything smarter yet.

                        Quote: multicaat
                        The footage doesn't show that the driver's hatches were covered in any way.

                        There's no visibility there anyway, what are you planning to cover up there? Is that nonsense? Definitely. Yes

                        Quote: multicaat
                        Or will you clench your teeth and try to at least discuss the issue constructively?

                        There's nothing to discuss with you, you're out of the loop. And yes, be careful about the buns, I don't like them. negative

                        Quote: multicaat
                        pretend

                        Learn Russian better. I hope it's your native language.
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                        23 October 2025 15: 48
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        There's no visibility there anyway, what are you planning to cover up there? Is that nonsense? Definitely.

                        There are technologies for full visibility—the Israelis used them on their armored personnel carriers about five years ago. The visibility is so good that you wouldn't be able to see it from above. There are other solutions, too.
                        We don't even try to implement it smarter than a barbecue. And you're the same way.
                        If you dig into the solutions already implemented, you can find a dozen options. I've already cited one. You say there are no options, that it's impossible to cover. This isn't a lack of knowledge. It's, well... either pathological stubbornness, or something worse. I won't even mention active defense systems. Why isn't anything going beyond shotguns and electronic warfare systems, which are far from omnipotent? And why? Because it's too lazy to think in three or four steps. In fact, it all very quickly boils down to the ability to mass-produce radars that are cheaper than an aircraft carrier and capable of detecting drones. Incidentally, they also weren't willing to make decent, sufficiently accurate weapon guidance systems for the BMPT.
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                        23 October 2025 16: 01
                        Quote: multicaat
                        I'm already silent...

                        As for me, you, on the contrary, talk too much. One of the characteristic signs of an amateur is that everything is simple and he, alone, is the smartest and most knowledgeable.

                        Quote: multicaat
                        They were too lazy to make normal, sufficiently precise gun guidance systems for the BMPT

                        Hm. This is complete nonsense. And I think I'll stop talking to you about this here.

                        But it's better not to write about tanks anymore. This is good advice. Yes laughing hi
                      9. +1
                        23 October 2025 16: 10
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        But it's better not to write about tanks anymore.

                        Just for self-development, I'll remind you
                        tanka is a 31-syllable, five-line Japanese poetic form
                        So I started thinking about what you really want. recourse
  12. +1
    23 October 2025 09: 22
    By the way, the fuel efficiency of the Abram and T90 was compared and according to reports, the Abram is better.
    I don’t know how it is in reality, but according to the brochures it doesn’t consume that much fuel.
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      23 October 2025 10: 04
      Quote: multicaat
      The fuel efficiency of the Abram and T90 was compared.

      Hm. Also, compare the exterior. For a combat vehicle, fuel efficiency is definitely not the most important parameter.
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        23 October 2025 15: 36
        Quote: Paranoid62
        For a combat vehicle, fuel efficiency

        For one, probably yes, but for a company of tanks, we're already talking about tons of fuel.
        Even mattresses with their cool logistics whine when the tanks need refueling.
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          23 October 2025 15: 41
          Quote: multicaat
          Quote: Paranoid62
          For a combat vehicle, fuel efficiency

          For one, probably yes, but for a company of tanks, we're already talking about tons of fuel.
          Even mattresses with their cool logistics whine when the tanks need refueling.

          Even for a division. A tank isn't designed to save fuel; that's what a bicycle is for.
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    28 October 2025 20: 31
    People, as usual, are making fun of drones. Comparing impoverished Kyiv and servile Russia with rich, arrogant, and absolutely untouchable America. The Yankees have no enemies at all except naked Mahmuds with Kalashnikovs. They'll wipe out any drone operator at the radio-exposure stage. Essentially, they only need a tank to avoid having to use Apaches again. It's cheap (relatively speaking) and to angrily wrap all those who disagree with democracy in their tracks. And it's somehow unseemly to be without a tank, plus they need to launder their money on another wonder weapon.
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    24 November 2025 15: 05
    Quote: Kravets Vyacheslav
    What about the Armata? Does it have a hybrid powertrain? Or is it just the unmanned turret and automatic loader? They've made similar vehicles before.

    Armata is closer to having a hybrid engine than this project.
    All you need to do is throw out the diesel and install a hybrid, and this American project isn't even in the drawing boards.