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In Chelyabinsk Zlatoust, congratulating veterans, on the poster confused Soviet and American soldiers

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In Chelyabinsk Zlatoust, congratulating veterans, on the poster confused Soviet and American soldiers

In Zlatoust (Chelyabinsk region), an advertising company mistakenly placed a poster for 9 in May depicting American soldiers instead of Soviet soldiers, a city administration representative told Interfax-Ural.


According to him, at one of the busiest motorways of Zlatoust at the end of last week, a congratulatory poster appeared on the 68 anniversary of the victory in the Great Patriotic War with the inscription "This is our victory." It depicts soldiers setting a waving Soviet flag. However, the poster is not the Soviet military, and the US, confident in the city administration. In fact, a famous snapshot of American soldiers hoisting the flag over the Japanese island of Iwo Jima is posted on the billboard.

The interviewee noted that the city administration is not the customer of this poster.

The Chelyabinsk advertising company Armada Outdoor, which owns the billboard design, without agreeing with us, on its own initiative, decided to do a good deed - to congratulate the veterans and townspeople on 9 in May. The next day, the poster was removed, "said a representative of the administration of Zlatoust.

The representative of the Zlatoust branch of the company "Armada Outdoor" has admitted the guilt of the enterprise.

“The designer took a ready-made photo somewhere, drew a picture from it. From the entire series of greeting posters placed in the Chelyabinsk region, this turned out to be one. We are very sorry that this happened. The poster hung for 24 hours, then we replaced it,” advertising firm.

The "Hoisting the Flag over Iwo Jima" photo was taken on 23 February 1945 of the year. She depicts a US soldier raising a United States flag on top of Mount Suribati during the battle for the Japanese island of Iwo Jima in World War II. The author of the photo, military journalist Joe Rosenthal, was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for him.

Photography has become a landmark in the United States. Later, it was used by sculptor Felix de Weldon to create the United States Marine Corps Memorial (the second name is the Iwo Jima Memorial), located near Arlington National Cemetery.
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  1. Maximus
    Maximus April 24 2013 11: 08
    +6
    Or maybe it’s ours at Iwo Jima they beat Yap? .... laughing
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 24 2013 11: 17
      +29
      Ours in the Kuril Islands and in China beat the Japanese, and very quickly, efficiently and with minimal losses !!! hi
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 24 2013 11: 54
        +7
        That's the way a good video

      2. krasin
        krasin April 24 2013 13: 47
        0
        On April 28-30 in Moscow there will be negotiations with the Japanese about the Kuril Islands and the disputed islands. Something I’m afraid of, you can expect anything from the current leadership of the country. They will surrender, they will not surrender - they will sell, they will not sell --- Oh, chamomile! fool
      3. Nikolai N
        Nikolai N April 24 2013 13: 53
        0
        And also in Korea had a brilliant landing operation
      4. Maximus
        Maximus April 24 2013 18: 12
        -1
        By that time we already had a professional "shelled" army, and I was the Japs just what Pearl Harbor could do! And pinch the poor Chinese.
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 24 2013 11: 21
      +10
      ideological sabotage, this is how you should be a dolbak, so that instead of a striped one you’ll take a picture of the Soviet flag!
      1. dany
        dany April 24 2013 11: 45
        +18
        Not only do dolbaki work here, the amers have the same "taps" ...


        1. Maximus
          Maximus April 24 2013 12: 02
          +4
          The Amers have a "joint" more abruptly than our poster. I remember this reportage on TV, if anyone does not know, the Soviet Fleet is on the screen!
          1. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution April 24 2013 14: 41
            +2
            Quote: Maximus
            The Amers have a "joint" more abruptly than our poster. I remember this reportage on TV, if anyone does not know, the Soviet Fleet is on the screen!

            Actually, not Soviet but Russian.
            1. Maximus
              Maximus April 24 2013 14: 54
              +1
              Well, then Russian, even better!
        2. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 24 2013 13: 23
          +2
          Again: the TYPOLOGY OF ERRORS is identical! Clip-art at the disposal of the designer. Tag: navy / ships / military ... Get it. Sign. Why is a designer, half of whom are girls “hovering in the clouds of creativity,” obliged to understand technology? Especially an American designer? Let them constantly demonstrate our weapons. Free advertising for us ... OmeriGansYou see and are afraid good
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 46
            0
            Soori that in the top post, I myself answer. But the topic is sore. At the bottom of the branch I posted a mega foot-cry of a blogger who shot military equipment and some videos to boot. Who cares - see.
      2. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx April 24 2013 12: 40
        +6
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        ideological sabotage, this is how you should be a dolbak, so that instead of a striped one you’ll take a picture of the Soviet flag!

        With so many blunders - that last year, when the Germans painted helmets on the fighters, that in this is more like a deliberate sabotage and diversification of history am rather than an excuse by mistake.
        It’s already high time to introduce the punishment of campaigns for lying in advertising, up to astronomical fines and criminal penalties - be it television on banners or on the radio am - immediately the bloopers will stop, and the open slag will cease to advertise. negative
      3. dmitreach
        dmitreach April 24 2013 13: 15
        +3
        Do not blame the stupid youth. On that, Historical photo frame - full of "fotozhab" with the Soviet banner. Sitting there, in "Armada Outdoor", as a "designer", some schoolgirl 23 years old ... How can she know? Dimasik, Livanov - thanks ...
        Climbed into a clipart with a tag: WWII (and I would not be surprised if the Second World War) / FLAG / VICTORY / SOVIET WARS - received a "fotozhaba". I signed it.
    3. aviamed90
      aviamed90 April 24 2013 12: 04
      +1
      "Or maybe it was ours who beat the yap on Iwo Jima?"

      Well yes! Emigrants from Russia.
    4. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel April 24 2013 14: 06
      +2
      Yes, not by mistake, just by not knowing. Received an order and blinded from what was at hand.
      In Odessa, the citizen mayor Kostusev (between us, well, a very narrow-minded person (the party drove "cactus", the popular nickname "parsley"), as well as his party members with a guarantor). in the center of the city consecrated a huge poster for Victory Day "liberators". Standing, sedentary and recumbent Romanian warriors on Primorsky Boulevard. So, you are not the first.
    5. DEfindER
      DEfindER April 24 2013 15: 10
      +2
      Quote: Maximus
      Or maybe it was ours at Iwo Jima that beat the Yap?

      By the way, as a matter of fact, the amers fought there, as elsewhere, first turning the country into a lunar landscape and then landing on the moon.
      And how ours fought for a similar Japanese island:
    6. DEfindER
      DEfindER April 24 2013 15: 16
      0
      Probably the most interesting American military operation against Japan:
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Операция_«Коттедж»
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 April 24 2013 17: 47
        +2
        Yes, the whole world already knows that America defeated Germany, captured the guitar and defeated Napoleon, and all this happened on American territory.
        And the USSR hid behind the Volga. The fascists defeated us if not for the Volga.
        could hurt too wide wink
  2. Primatpro
    Primatpro April 24 2013 11: 11
    -4
    So in WW2, the Americans won. All is correct.
    1. Prokop
      Prokop April 24 2013 11: 30
      +9
      Quote: Primatpro
      So in WW2, the Americans won. All is correct.

      As is customary with the Americans, they cunningly joined the winners. They would print the exact same poster with their hoisting of the flag, even if the fascists won.
      1. Primatpro
        Primatpro April 24 2013 11: 32
        0
        Quote: Prokop
        cleverly sided with the winners

        They didn’t side, namely, that they won. Scoops threw meat at the Germans, while the Americans sorted out all the most delicious, leaving the scoops only leftovers.
        1. Vanek
          Vanek April 24 2013 11: 36
          +11
          Quote: Primatpro
          They didn’t side, namely, that they won.


          And Hiroshima and Nagasaki, too, the Soviets undermined laughing

          God, how bad it is to be an idiot ..... illiterate.
          1. Krapovy32
            Krapovy32 April 24 2013 11: 51
            +10
            Quote: Vanek
            Quote: Primatpro
            They didn’t side, namely, that they won.


            And Hiroshima and Nagasaki, too, the Soviets undermined laughing

            God, how bad it is to be an idiot ..... illiterate.



            Well, they have spawned fools who have only instincts in their heads, we still suffer with such "creative" fellow citizens. hi
      2. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 April 24 2013 11: 59
        +14
        No, the USA did not win in 2MB. Do not waste Germany then in the war against the USSR almost all military resources, not a single Anglo-American bomber could cross the border of the Reich, not a single German factory would be destroyed. The British island itself would have fallen for months !! And the Germans would have done an atomic bomb much earlier than the USA!
        Americans must understand - without the resistance of the USSR, the world would never! did not defeat the Third Reich and Japan!
        1. Vashestambid
          Vashestambid April 24 2013 12: 24
          -21
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          No, the USA did not win in 2MB. Do not waste Germany then in the war against the USSR almost all military resources, not a single Anglo-American bomber could cross the border of the Reich, not a single German factory would be destroyed. The British island itself would have fallen for months !! And the Germans would have done an atomic bomb much earlier than the USA!

          But this is not true. The power of the United States was extraordinary, which only their victory over the Japs is worth, especially since the United States hosted the largest industrial capacities. Learn materiel !! smile

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          1. washi
            washi April 24 2013 12: 37
            +13
            We and the Germans only during the Battle of Stalingrad participated more troops than Japan and the United States during the whole war.
            1. dikiybober
              dikiybober April 25 2013 06: 46
              -1
              Mister "we will throw our caps over" let it be known to you that under Okinawa the United States concentrated, if you count in terms of resources and funds, much more than the USSR and the Reich at Stalingrad combined ... according to some estimates, several times ... even more than for the operation in Normandy. ..
              So lie further
          2. dmitreach
            dmitreach April 24 2013 13: 17
            +3
            ... and about the flag, which is bad for borrowing the legendary photo !!

            The veterans won't understand. It's their holiday, not a photojab contest.
          3. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 April 24 2013 13: 20
            +6
            Igor, you are not so good with materiel ... Whatever industrial power the United States had then, Germany and Japan would have opposed it, all the resources of the Eurasian continent, seizing Australia in one. Now, "add 2 + 2" - where are the more resources? - on the North American continent, or on the Eurasian continent? I think Japan and Germany would have defeated the United States before 1945.
        2. folds
          folds April 24 2013 12: 52
          +7
          The main policy of the Anglo-Saxons ALWAYS is to pit the most powerful countries in Europe so that no one can think about capturing these ugly islets
        3. matross
          matross April 24 2013 15: 13
          +3
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          Do not waste Germany then in the war against the USSR almost all military resources, not a single Anglo-American bomber could cross the border of the Reich

          A small correction: the first British bombers raid on Berlin on 25 / 26 on August 1940 of the year. You can check. But in general, who will argue, ours won. And unfortunately, the Americans won.
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach April 24 2013 15: 17
            +2
            won ours. And unfortunately, the Americans won.

            To whom is War, and to whom is mother dear. Americans for half a century grandmother milked from the theme of Lend-Lease. Not only the USSR until the 90s argued over Lend-Lease, but paid. But the British ... for example ...
            And, by the way, for the British, if I am not mistaken, the percentage for the loan exceeded the cost of deliveries! For the epic lasted more than half a century!
          2. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 April 24 2013 15: 59
            +4
            I beg your pardon, I got excited about "not a single bomber". But the Luftwaffe, if they were entirely in the western direction, would not have allowed to destroy German factories and cities with such comfort. And the thousands of B-17x, B-25x and Lancaster armada for 1 year of battles would have been reduced to zero.
            Quote: matRoss
            And unfortunately, the Americans won

            - I will correct it - the Americans, as always, profited from the misfortunes of others ...
            1. matross
              matross April 24 2013 16: 14
              +2
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              Americans, as always, profited from the misfortunes of others ...

              I can not disagree with you.
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              The Luftwaffe, if they were entirely in the westerly direction, would not have allowed the destruction of German factories and cities with such comfort. And the thousands of armada B-17x, B-25x and Lancaster for 1year of battles, would be reduced to zero.

              However, the Germans preferred another option. Suicidal. To the question - why - there are several versions of the answers. It seems to me more likely that they were deceived and framed by the Americans. As subsequently, and the Japanese.
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 April 24 2013 16: 39
                +2
                Quote: matRoss
                However, the Germans preferred another option. Suicidal

                - matRoss, but it seems to me that the Germans acted quite logically - without the conquest of the USSR, they simply could not count on world domination. The blow to the USSR was calculated from a mathematical point of view, perfect! They really had a good chance. But the Russians were against it, and ("changed the landscape of the area at night") turned into EXACTLY THAT that destroyed the aggressor. They could not calculate this.
                1. matross
                  matross April 24 2013 17: 46
                  +1
                  This version exists and is quite popular. I partially agree with her. Starting the war with the USSR, the Germans, of course, considered them to be victorious, and no one would exhibit them.
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  But the Russians were against

                  And this, in part, is a consequence of the shortsighted Nazi policy towards the peoples of the USSR in the occupied territories.
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  They really had a good chance

                  Given the same short-sighted policy-was not. To conquer a little is necessary to keep. About Napoleon I will not remind wink
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  night changed the terrain

                  Yes, the heroism of the Soviet people played a major role in the Victory!
  3. Vanek
    Vanek April 24 2013 11: 11
    +1
    Yes, you .... damn .... but something like that .....
  4. yanus
    yanus April 24 2013 11: 14
    +5
    illiterate
    1. Akim
      Akim April 24 2013 11: 24
      +7
      Quote: yanus
      illiterate

      The most annoying thing is not the first time. Although the designers are illiterate in this. Here's a trailer traveling with the T-84 on board
      1. vilenich
        vilenich April 24 2013 13: 32
        +2
        Quote: Akim
        Here's a trailer traveling with the T-84 on board

        Our guys are driving around!
      2. maestro123
        maestro123 April 24 2013 14: 09
        +2
        It is our tank on the top of his head that adjusts the headdress so that the "warrior" is not conceited where he is. laughing
  5. neri73-r
    neri73-r April 24 2013 11: 15
    +19
    Yeah, education is getting lower, dullness is getting higher, probably artists from the creative class, from talented golden youth with a washed cola head !!!
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 24 2013 13: 30
      -1
      Plusanul, for the "brainwashed" ("thanks" to Livanov), but you IN GENERAL - are mistaken.
      All in all, two in the evening took it. All this was done in Cubase SX3. In Cuba, NI Kontakt 4, NI Massive, Sylenth1 and Stylus RMX were used. An isotope and wave wave L2 are posted on the master. Well, on the tracks, separately channel by channel, in Contact on ASIO (I have E-MU 1616m) some of the dynamics and parametrics for greater density. Here's something like that, in short =)

      Do you understand what the user asked, a colleague of the sound engineer / DJ? Here you are not educated ... wink The same Faberge, side view with designers. They are taught, but not military specialties.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo April 24 2013 15: 50
        0
        Quote: dmitreach
        They are taught, but not military specialties.


        There is a Russian proverb - you can’t swim - don’t scare crayfish.
        1. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 24 2013 17: 08
          0
          To this he gave an example with soundmen.
          Do you know this kitchen? Probably not. I am more than. Do you think the designer has time to spend on Internet forums looking for quality photos? ShchaZ oGa! Do you know the technical requirements for billboard art? A designer girl made the props for me, with a photo taken with me. For a film frame, based on a plot from Cityboard, format 2,5 * 3,5 m - workers rip off ads. So the size of the photo was such that on your computer - the system will slow down, although the picture is primitive. And on some laptops, the system will freeze completely without opening the picture. This is not for your posts on TopWar demotivator to fill ...
  6. BARKAS
    BARKAS April 24 2013 11: 16
    +11
    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad fool
  7. Trailer
    Trailer April 24 2013 11: 20
    +29
    It seems that the author was inspired by this photo. A prospect, so to speak.
    1. Fernando
      Fernando April 24 2013 11: 28
      +2
      Well, he wanted to say about it. Or maybe the author thus protested that America considers itself a winner? I don’t know, but honestly, in this particular case, I personally do not think this is something egregious.
    2. folds
      folds April 24 2013 12: 56
      +13
      "The paratrooper drank, a tear rolled
      The trophy saxophone wheezed
      And on his chest glowed
      medal for the city of Washington "
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 April 24 2013 13: 34
        +2
        Quote: plis
        The paratrooper drank, a tear rolled
        The trophy saxophone wheezed
        And on his chest glowed
        medal for the city of Washington "

        Thank you. Gone.
        the mood has risen.
    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. April 24 2013 13: 26
      +1
      But all the same, funny - four and then with difficulty!
    4. aksai61
      aksai61 April 24 2013 13: 29
      +1
      I completely agree!!! The guys may have played a little in RED ALERT;)))
    5. Hudo
      Hudo April 24 2013 15: 54
      +1
      Quote: Karavan
      It seems that the author was inspired by this photo. A prospect, so to speak.


      So why did he stop halfway, this photo would be posted. The people, I’m sure, would understand, and unanimously support!
    6. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 24 2013 17: 19
      0
      something like this is not suitable, a small photo, when you try to pull the size on the billboard.
    7. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 24 2013 17: 20
      +1
      something like this is not suitable, a small photo, when you try to pull the size on the billboard.
      So the problem is not the EDUCATION of the designer. With a specialized education, everything can be normal there. And in the presence of the original parts. Clip art is a library of images on a given topic.
      Well, not doing this MO. Claim him in the first place !!! And not to the company, which, out of well-intentionedness, tried to at least do something by May 9!
  8. tomket
    tomket April 24 2013 11: 20
    +18
    We simply with some manic justification appear posters with congratulations on the occasion of February 23 on the background of either abrams or f-15, but why? Because unprofessionalism is total everywhere, if you don’t understand what you are printing, you could consult with knowing people. For veterans it's a shame.
    1. mch1950
      mch1950 April 24 2013 13: 55
      +5
      The authors do not need to consult knowledgeable people, they are advised by specialists from the State Department.
      There is no mistake, this is a usual provocation, this is the brainwashing of fragile brains.
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik April 24 2013 14: 19
        +3
        mch1950 Today, 13:55 PM ↑ New
        Authors do not need to consult knowledgeable people, they are advised by specialists from the State Department


        Exactly"! I totally agree. For such jokes, there are gaps in the teeth!
        negative
      2. Hudo
        Hudo April 24 2013 15: 58
        +2
        Quote: mch1950
        The authors do not need to consult knowledgeable people, they are advised by specialists from the State Department.
        There is no mistake, this is a usual provocation, this is the brainwashing of fragile brains.

        At the point, mch1950, it did not work out for the reptiles of the mattress to swoop in, so they do not stop trying to replicate such a bastard - like a ride, it will not.
        Do not boil Coca-Cola, pin-day - DO NOT RIDE !!!
  9. krasin
    krasin April 24 2013 11: 20
    +10
    To advertisers kick ass and study history for 5 years. They’re like 5 years of school, there’s no history subject in schools, there are a lot of textbooks everywhere and everywhere, but still they’ll kick ass! angry
    1. танк
      танк April 24 2013 11: 38
      +8
      Actually, I don’t agree with you. They wanted to congratulate our veterans absolutely free (which is rare) from the bottom of their hearts !!! Do you know many private firms like that ??? Can you work in that? Just a guy at a computer total, but you understand how children are taught at school now. Then I would say the Minister of Education on soap is yes.
      I taught history at school, but for example I do not know and did not see such a photo with amers!
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. April 24 2013 11: 58
        +5
        Perhaps of course, but another option is also possible - another study of the reaction of the population - monitoring.
        1. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 24 2013 13: 37
          +1
          Then "monitorus" of what? Desires for "revenge" in the Cold War? Well, I would understand if the customers of the study, Narachito left the recognizable Capitol, in the background. (as in the amerskoy advertisement from t-84) Trolling on the scale of Vassei Omerigi ... But here everything is more banal. It's just a designer's mistake due to clip art and lack of specialized knowledge. Profile - in relation to the MILITARY theme, and not to the layout and design!
      2. washi
        washi April 24 2013 12: 41
        +6
        I read in one interiorview: A modern graduate of the historical faculty of the university corresponds, in terms of knowledge, to a good student of a Soviet high school. So without self-education, nothing can save youth.
  10. Garrin
    Garrin April 24 2013 11: 20
    +12
    "Simplicity is worse than theft!"
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 April 24 2013 12: 06
      +4
      This is not simplicity, but dullness and ignorance of the history of your country!
  11. bogdan
    bogdan April 24 2013 11: 23
    +8
    And moreover, this happens every year, and I can no longer believe that this is simply due to ignorance and oversight, there are too many such "mistakes", and in this way you can influence the subconscious.
  12. Maximus
    Maximus April 24 2013 11: 23
    +6
    The poster says "this is our victory", everything is right for us, because we defeated the Kwantung Army, liberated northern China, without us the Amers would still have longed to deal with the samurai, despite the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 24 2013 11: 30
      +6
      Quote: Maximus
      without us, Amer would still be longing

      Well, so it was necessary to depict the RED BANCH instead of the striped flag! Oh, don't say that this is from ignorance and ignorance. It is from "education". They also wanted to portray the United States as an ally. So the "probe" was squeezed. It is good that both people and authorities responded correctly.
  13. dmitry46
    dmitry46 April 24 2013 11: 24
    +1
    boobies honestly .... like the best, it turned out as usual ...
  14. Akellastambul
    Akellastambul April 24 2013 11: 25
    +2
    One word ... "Disgrace."
    1. Fernando
      Fernando April 24 2013 11: 31
      +1
      It’s a shame when congratulating the American veterans, they placed a photo of the Black Sea fleet with the Andreev flags on a giant pan. And this is rather a bad choice, perhaps ...
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch April 24 2013 11: 53
        +2
        It’s a disgrace in America, but it will do with us anyway?
        1. Fernando
          Fernando April 24 2013 12: 00
          +4
          no, but I would not punish for this, and even dishonor too much. Although ... I think the authors of such works should be forcibly sent to courses, where they would finally be explained the concepts of correctness, and also explained the principle of creation - patriotic works, that it is unnecessary to include alien, and even more hostilely perceived elements, Well, finally, they would teach us how to use the network search)
  15. Sgt.
    Sgt. April 24 2013 11: 26
    +5
    “The designer took a ready-made photo somewhere, drew a picture from it. From the entire series of greeting posters placed in the Chelyabinsk region, this turned out to be one. We are very sorry that this happened. The poster hung for 24 hours, then we replaced it,” advertising firm.

    This designer needs to be suspended for one place on that billboard.
    History either did not teach, or was clearly sabotaging, such as no one will notice, or what? I'll get my dough for the poster design and that's it, but who knows about Iwo Jima. Should be fined for such "art".
    One is comforting, they were removed on time, otherwise you look, it would have sagged until May 9th.
  16. Nayhas
    Nayhas April 24 2013 11: 30
    +4
    On the first billboard "This is our VICTORY", on the second "KIDS" ... Straight to the point ...
  17. uav80
    uav80 April 24 2013 11: 32
    +17
    Okay, at least they didn’t put the fascists on the poster, otherwise they were riveted in the past times ....

    although it was necessary to make such a thread ...
    1. folds
      folds April 24 2013 12: 58
      +4
      Dorisuy White House behind;)
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 April 25 2013 17: 28
        0
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    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 24 2013 15: 13
      -2
      Chlenin's place in the dustbin of history
  18. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 April 24 2013 11: 38
    +6
    Not well, it seems that they have big problems with historical literacy. Or maybe they wanted to congratulate American veterans, they just mixed up the country? Or maybe this is a subtle hint that the Americans won the war, then there is no laughing matter here, well, most likely simple illiteracy. Although it would not hurt to check. fool
    1. Fernando
      Fernando April 24 2013 11: 43
      0
      The author’s fault is that the figures of the soldiers are in recognizable form, and even then I suppose he simply did not think, and was not illiterate (sometimes it’s worse to think twice than not to know) - what sabotage? Soviet flag hoisted - victory flag. I think no need to look for hints that are not there.
  19. nemec55
    nemec55 April 24 2013 11: 41
    +3
    Reptiles are not only those who painted hung and controlled the reptiles parents who raised.
  20. Yazov
    Yazov April 24 2013 11: 43
    +2
    Well, not by mistake, they stuck this photo, but because of complete illiteracy. With the flag and okay. And whose flag is it ... and yes ....
  21. Fernando
    Fernando April 24 2013 11: 49
    +3
    Of course, it would be great if it were not for private advertising agencies, and historical clubs and organizations drew such posters - there would have been no mistakes. And I think there is no way to find illiterate people there.
    In short, you will not help condemnation of the case - only by deeds.
  22. olegyurjewitch
    olegyurjewitch April 24 2013 11: 50
    +2
    This is how ours took revenge on the Americans for tnash ships issued as a mighty US fleet laughing Although there is nothing to laugh about, this proves once again that the brains of today's young creators are slightly on the wobble.
  23. Lopatov
    Lopatov April 24 2013 11: 52
    +1
    Everything is very simple.
    The one who "painted" took this photo because it was convenient for him. Plus, it's free.

    The one who controlled, most likely studied at the Soviet school, and therefore knows absolutely nothing about the war in the Pacific Ocean.
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch April 24 2013 13: 25
      +2
      Quote: Spade
      The one who controlled, most likely studied at the Soviet school, and therefore knows absolutely nothing about the war in the Pacific Ocean.

      Do you think that this topic was not covered in any way during the USSR? The Soviet generation knows about this war, but it doesn’t know from American materials that show America’s dominant role in the entire Second World War, but from our sources. I wouldn’t say that in your place. I perfectly remember the story I studied from Soviet textbooks.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 24 2013 15: 04
        0
        Dear, no fairy tales.
  24. evgenm55
    evgenm55 April 24 2013 11: 55
    +5
    Two years ago in Sverdlovsk, i.e., Yekaterinburg, on one of the most passable streets, a poster of Marshal of Victory G.K. - he hung for another year. If in the first case that they drew incorrectly, illiteracy (at least you can believe), then what is in the second?
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 24 2013 15: 17
      +1
      Most likely a photo from the year 43-44, Zhukov was awarded the second order "Victory" on March 30, 1945, and Zhukov received the fourth star for suppressing the "Hungarian uprising". So there is practically no mistake.
  25. Petrovich-2
    Petrovich-2 April 24 2013 12: 00
    +3
    And these are all the fruits of a democratic-liberal education. People no longer see the difference between their victorious soldiers and the American. This is shameful.
    Would spit in the face for such substitutions to gentlemen liberals.
  26. pensioner
    pensioner April 24 2013 12: 06
    +1
    Quote: krasin
    Kick advertisers ass, and for 5 years to school to study history.

    I agree with the deadline. But not to school.
  27. fenix57
    fenix57 April 24 2013 12: 08
    +3
    So someone "ordered" this poster if the city administration does not know about it .. And how they appeared without the knowledge of it. Oh, the city bureaucrats are dark, oh they are dark ... request
  28. waisson
    waisson April 24 2013 12: 14
    +2
    the second time the same rake occurs, there was the same case one in one 3-4 years ago I don’t remember the city to regret, and the administration also refused to read this article, I was not surprised, the old bike thought not
  29. Tuzik
    Tuzik April 24 2013 12: 15
    +3
    here you have western values, limited education and nonsense, consumer existence came along with McDonald's. well, at least not 300 Spartans stuck, although in 20 years they will be able to.
  30. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak April 24 2013 12: 20
    0
    Really again? It seems that this was already a year or two ago, and it was with this shot. Or are they just repeating articles on a site? Maybe not verbatim, but they write about someone's past overlays. Therefore, the article is a minus!
  31. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 24 2013 12: 24
    +3
    Everyone needs to sue together !!!!
    Let compensation for moral damage !!!!!!

    As if the victory of these 3,14 doras !!!!
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 24 2013 15: 19
      -2
      What is so clumsy? The United States made a huge contribution to the Pacific theater of operations, lend-lease helped the USSR out in a difficult time.
  32. ioann1
    ioann1 April 24 2013 12: 39
    +2
    Previously, all kinds of posters for campaign purposes, and this is one of such forms, have always been in the field of view of political bodies. This is extremely important. And now everything is blurry. Some illiterate photoshoppers make nonsense, and at the same time there is not one who would give them the right to SUCH to expose the light of God! Sculpt that I want ... It's time to end this, otherwise we will become like a rotten west.
  33. pensioner
    pensioner April 24 2013 12: 50
    +1
    Quote: SPIRITofFREEDOM
    Everyone needs to sue together !!!!

    Are there any relevant articles in our legislation?
  34. Focuser
    Focuser April 24 2013 13: 00
    +1
    Damn, how stupid are these people who make these posters, ads! I am amazed! Okay, the Americans blunted and put other people's ships in the background, one could still expect from them. But I was sure that our people would not be mistaken! Relatively speaking, the T-34 and Tirg will not be confused. And here you are !! Damn, how so ?! Yomayo ..
  35. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 24 2013 13: 22
    +1
    What is this, stupidity or treason?
  36. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ April 24 2013 13: 30
    +5
    In fact, it becomes scary from such "mistakes". These are the results of the "reform" of education. Well, okay, "fuck him", the 3D generation studied history from Disney cartoons and avian comics, but EPRST! their bosses, at least the majority, grew up under the USSR! They can tell the difference between a German soldier and ours, where are they looking ?! or what are they looking at ?! Or already FSUs to the Motherland, to Her story !!! Brains from cola with sushi rotted chtol? Or they make fun of us like a "humor joke". Here is a chronicle of shame.
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 24 2013 13: 47
      -1
      Uh ... no ... there is a question. "Generation 3D" knows about planes and tanks of the Second World War by toys. And he is not bad at them, I can tell you. At the level of an inquisitive student, and not a professor-historian, of course. Another question is if the poster designer is a girl. She is more interested in Vogue and harper's bazaar. Because there the pictures were made by designers from the West and the clothes are fashionable. The question is where the boss was looking when the sketch was approved? Or do you think that among the girls-designers are fans of the WWII theme? They can't tell Zhukov from Rokossovsky!
    2. Maximus
      Maximus April 24 2013 14: 30
      +1
      A poster with a special subtext, a German on a poster from "twilight" with a grenade is crawling, symbolizing that there are still fascist imperfections! laughing
  37. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 24 2013 13: 33
    +4
    Quote: VashEstambid
    The power of the United States was extraordinary, which only their victory over the Japs is worth, especially since the United States hosted the largest industrial capacities. Learn materiel


    yes, the banner of these warriors:
    "By the way, there was an interesting case that perfectly characterizes the morale of the allies. A few hours before the invasion, airborne assault forces were landed in the depths of the Germans' defenses. Due to an error of the pilots, about three dozen paratroopers were dropped on the very shore near the W-5 bunker. Some of them were destroyed by the Germans, others were taken prisoner.And at 4.00, these prisoners began to beg the commander of the bunker to immediately send them to the rear.When the Germans asked what it was they were so impatient with, the brave warriors immediately announced that an artillery preparation would begin in an hour. from the ships, which will be followed by disembarkation. It is a pity that history did not retain the names of these "fighters for freedom and democracy" who gave out the hour of the invasion to save their skin. "

    "The allied aviation acted even worse. An armada of Liberator bombers dropped several hundred tons of bombs, but none of them hit not only the enemy's fortifications, but even the beach (and some bombs exploded five kilometers from the coast."

    http://topwar.ru/10107-geroicheskaya-vysadka-soyuznikov-v-normandii.html
  38. Rrv
    Rrv April 24 2013 13: 40
    +2
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    1. Rrv
      Rrv April 24 2013 13: 42
      +5
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      1. Rrv
        Rrv April 24 2013 13: 43
        +3
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      2. Maximus
        Maximus April 24 2013 14: 26
        +3
        Happy Defender of the Fatherland Day, dear Americans!
        1. Rrv
          Rrv April 24 2013 15: 17
          +2
          Insanity grows stronger every day. )))

          French people:
          1. Rrv
            Rrv April 24 2013 15: 19
            +1
            Merkava:)))
            1. Rrv
              Rrv April 24 2013 15: 21
              +2
              Well, this is just no comment)))
              1. Maximus
                Maximus April 24 2013 16: 40
                0
                Analys those who printed blanks on this poster
            2. Maximus
              Maximus April 24 2013 16: 39
              0
              Well, everything is clear here, tank migrants from Russia fellow Or in the Oryol branch of United Russia, many admirers of the Israeli army, and are also called the pro-presidential party
  39. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ April 24 2013 13: 47
    +4
    American tank from a computer game.
  40. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ April 24 2013 13: 48
    +6
    Luftwaffe soldiers, against the background of a wrecked Russian tank
  41. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ April 24 2013 13: 50
    +5
    One must be completely dumb and eyeless so as not to see the German! Chronicle, damn it.
    1. Maximus
      Maximus April 24 2013 14: 24
      0
      And our fighter is still happier, some sort of zealous German.
  42. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ April 24 2013 13: 52
    +2
    Luftwaffe soldiers against the background of a wrecked Russian tank.
    1. Maximus
      Maximus April 24 2013 14: 22
      0
      German designers ordered a poster or what?
  43. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ April 24 2013 13: 54
    +3
    And I didn’t have time to photograph one more masterpiece. This year I bring the kid to the kindergarten, and a poster "From February 23" hangs on the door, and the M4 "Sherman" is drawn in the most conspicuous place, apparently, that creative squalor (I can't name the author of the poster in another way) after seeing a large white star on the tank decided that this Russian tank. Something like this:
    1. Maximus
      Maximus April 24 2013 14: 16
      0
      Well, Shermans, although in small numbers, were still in the Red Army. And about the rest of the posters there are no words, only emotions sad
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 24 2013 15: 22
      0
      Well, the Shermans walked in huge numbers along Len-lease.
      1. Maximus
        Maximus April 24 2013 16: 44
        0
        By the way, they were not (of course) observed in any military film, only T-34s, even the heavy IS tank, did not see them, and HF too.
  44. USNik
    USNik April 24 2013 13: 55
    +2
    Or, a completely neglected case
    1. Maximus
      Maximus April 24 2013 14: 18
      +1
      Then they just forgot to sign which Fatherland
    2. Maximus
      Maximus April 24 2013 14: 20
      +2
      I am silent about technology in general, but the two-headed eagle on the red star is just creative!
  45. Vtel
    Vtel April 24 2013 13: 59
    +2
    The designer took a finished photo somewhere, drew a picture from it.

    And what do you want - the youth does not know the history of Russia, and all the knowledge draws from American fighters or from stickers on chewing gum. It can be seen that this nerd designer did not bother too much in search of truth. Blinded a poster from what was at hand - just some kind of Perestukin. He is not a patriot of his homeland and he does not see how much our people died in that war and who won in it. In a word - Coca-cola.
  46. Nikolai N
    Nikolai N April 24 2013 14: 10
    +1
    Quote: neri73-r
    Yeah, education is getting lower, dullness is getting higher, probably artists from the creative class, from talented golden youth with a washed cola head !!!

    I remember my mother working on the district radio as a correspondent and announcer for a reservation when reading a text on the air they were fined. Well, that was when. And today Emelya is your week. I don’t want to seem like a squeamish but to us, and so nonsense, the media vparivayut media around the clock but the limits should be some sort of? Veterans would sue them for insulting feelings (Do not confuse with believers laughing ) Yes, in a serious way so as not to be disgraceful. So that when it comes to publications on a military topic, managers and others refresh the memory of the whole history of the war (which, by the way, these verbiage doesn't have)
  47. xmike
    xmike April 24 2013 14: 11
    +1
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    Luftwaffe soldiers against the background of a wrecked Russian tank.

    And who congratulates whom?
    I do not believe in such non-random accidents, and I do not believe that such errors are due to illiteracy ...
    This is someone specially organizing everything ...
  48. dmitreach
    dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 18
    -2
    Comrades! You blame the designers, but half of them are schoolgirls who are not obliged to understand technology, although (possibly) excellent students in history. Well this is "specificity" and "specialization". Yes, they don't even really understand why in an RGB monitor, and in CMYK printing, although they may have heard about Lab Color. I'm not even talking about such a jungle as the differences between the subtractive color formation scheme and the additive color model laughing (Interestingly, many will understand the joke?)
    So that’s what I want to say. There is no wine designer. And not even Dimasik Livanov. It's the fault of the Moscow Region, because their disregard for the image of the army knows no bounds. (Serdyukov has nothing to do with it). The thing is that US (IN RUSSIA) DOES NOT HAVE CLIP ARTS WITH QUALITATIVE AND FREE PHOTOS OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT! What they use - WESTERN CLIP-ARTs
    And when our photographers start TRYING to "cooperate" with the MILITARY MIND (and large shoulder straps), it turns out as this blogger described. Read and think!
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 18
      0
      At work, I had occasion to communicate with the highest ranks of our country. The work, you know, was like that.

      As for the filming, somehow there was an idea to normally remove the helicopter link. The authorities said - well, they’ll fly right now - take off. We say - it’s so bad to take it off, the light is back, the cloud will turn out black threshing floor on a gray background. It is necessary that they come from the opposite side, there is just an excellent clearance in the clouds, mountains in the background, evening light. Guess what the answer was :)

      Rolling out a tank for filming against the backdrop of a collapsed barn, some rusty fittings and sagging thorns is the norm. The tank is all so painted repainted, and the background. But the bosses are pretty - here. take off.

      Putting someone with a red face in the front row is normal. He is a well-deserved one. Guys, his face is not photogenic, do you understand this? No, he is a well-deserved, take off. It doesn’t even reach that get such a photo on the Internet - the shaft of the photojab is provided.
      I will quote and subscribe to each letter!
      I can voice hundreds of such situations. Talk to any photojournalist - he will add another hundred of his own.

      And the topic of near-war blogs is just very interesting to me. I look at the Chinese and see excellent, clearly staged shots there. That is, they can take the heels of airplanes into the air to build them and take them off against a certain background, with a certain light, and as I understand it, make not one or two takes. All for propaganda of the Chinese army. We are somewhat taut with this, all successful shots are purely reportable.
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 19
        0
        It all depends on who you run into. From experience, the lower the rank, the greater the chance of a good result. The lieutenants, sterlet, up to the captains, are usually guys who are responsive and really try to help. And as they beat their heads against the wall for ten years, they didn’t give a damn about everything, if only they wouldn’t make him personally make extra gestures.

        I have tied it all up now, my health is not right anymore. But as I understand the defense ministry it is necessary to seriously deal with this issue. Every year the same thing - on the greeting posters and postcards American battleships or Abrams. The question is - why? Are designers dumb? And they do not have to know the differences in military equipment. They in the base of the clipart drive in the desired request - such as a tank, and should get the result. So the problem is that there are plenty of high-quality clip art for American equipment, and for ours, well, unless you can find planes, the rest will not be missed by any builder. And the Ministry of Defense should first of all take care of this. So that the journalist has the opportunity to find high-quality photos on any story about the Russian army. And so that the people who are responsible for this have at least an additional, but specialized education. To understand how important the background, light, frame composition, dynamics, camera angle are.

        We had a case when it was necessary to shoot in the air, but the authorities decided to put their man there, they say he knows how to shoot, so he’ll shoot. Major, fortunately an amateur photographer with experience, tormented him with questions, felt for our equipment, began to ask how he was best to take off this and that. We looked at the departure time, direction, it turns out that the light is useless - again there will be a gray plane against a background of gray clouds. We say that we need to turn around in the opposite direction, he only shrugs his hands - I can’t change the flight plan! No one will fly for the sake of filming, here we fly, here take off. and spin as you want.

        This is the difference. We shoot as an addition to the flight, this is a report. Any editor will tell you. that the reporting requirements are lower in quality than for advertising shooting. And they arrange a flight for the sake of shooting. And the result is much smoother. Previously, we couldn’t even talk about this, there was no money for fuel and for the training of pilots, what advertising shootings are there. Now, times have begun to change, it’s time for the military to start thinking about such an opportunity. Otherwise, Abramsas will travel on posters for Victory Day.

        Sorry that he wrote a lot, but the topic is rather painful.


        blogger: dr_vladson
        http://prokhor-tebin.livejournal.com/416227.html#comments
        1. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 22
          0
          Here's a "sketch of the result" find 10 differences !!!
          Mi-35 helicopter. Flight filming with GoPro cameras

          http://topwar.ru/24557-vertolet-mi-35-semki-poleta-kamerami-gopro.html

          [img = left] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IysOkfO93Wo [/ im
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          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 23
            0
            Tests BMD-4M. GoPro Camera Shooting

            [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnLI3QdEsZI&feature=player_embedded [/ img]


            for some reason, the video is glued through the times ... Sorry.
            1. dmitreach
              dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 24
              +1
              and HOW TO BE IN MIND !!!
              1. dmitreach
                dmitreach April 24 2013 14: 28
                0
                NOW SING ME A SONG ABOUT THAT ADVERTISERS - OFFICE HAMSTERS AND SENSE SOCIAL KIND OF HOMOSAPIENCE! And ADVERTISEMENT -ad, evil and perdition.
                Well, who will succeed? am
                WORK NEEDED TO BE TRUSTED BY PROFESSIONALS. (in the case of the topic under discussion, it’s flying and not the professionalism of the EDITOR, not the designer, because I DO NOT SEE the colors on the poster or spelling errors)
                Threat.
                I have no habit of "yelling Caps-Lock". This is the first time in a year on this site.
                In fairness, I note that the videos from the Mi-35 and BMD-4M were made by TELEVISIONERS, for the sake of reporting. They have a status ether more important than flower correction.
      2. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny April 25 2013 09: 44
        +1
        Quote: dmitreach
        At work, I had occasion to communicate with the highest ranks of our country. The work, you know, was like that.

        As for the filming, somehow there was an idea to normally remove the helicopter link. The authorities said - well, they’ll fly right now - take off. We say - it’s so bad to take it off, the light is back, the cloud will turn out black threshing floor on a gray background. It is necessary that they come from the opposite side, there is just an excellent clearance in the clouds, mountains in the background, evening light. Guess what the answer was :)

        Rolling out a tank for filming against the backdrop of a collapsed barn, some rusty fittings and sagging thorns is the norm. The tank is all so painted repainted, and the background. But the bosses are pretty - here. take off.

        Putting someone with a red face in the front row is normal. He is a well-deserved one. Guys, his face is not photogenic, do you understand this? No, he is a well-deserved, take off. It doesn’t even reach that get such a photo on the Internet - the shaft of the photojab is provided.
        I will quote and subscribe to each letter!
        I can voice hundreds of such situations. Talk to any photojournalist - he will add another hundred of his own.

        And the topic of near-war blogs is just very interesting to me. I look at the Chinese and see excellent, clearly staged shots there. That is, they can take the heels of airplanes into the air to build them and take them off against a certain background, with a certain light, and as I understand it, make not one or two takes. All for propaganda of the Chinese army. We are somewhat taut with this, all successful shots are purely reportable.


        Yeah.
  49. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 24 2013 14: 25
    +1
    The text contains a misprint according to Freud: "The author of the photo, military journalist Joe Rosenthal for him Putitzer prizes. "Which of" friends ", Rosenthal ...
    If you are not punished for this, then it says a lot. Unfortunately...
  50. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 April 24 2013 14: 32
    0
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    They can distinguish a German soldier from ours, are they looking somewhere ?!

    How can they distinguish a soldier if even the Flag is flipped at the bottom. These are officials acting on the instructions of other officials: prepare for the holiday. And, in their hearts they are n @, because they don’t see what they are sculpting. How many such examples, the sea!