Ukrainian experts: In winter, Russians can cross the Dnieper River near Kherson on the ice.

The enemy is attempting to reorganize its defenses on the right bank of the Kherson Oblast. Ukrainian experts (or pseudo-experts) are increasingly speculating that Russian troops, "as part of the transition from a summer to a winter offensive," may attempt to cross the Dnieper River and establish a bridgehead in the northern part of the oblast. Extravagant theories are also being floated, such as "the Russians could cross the Dnieper on the ice in small groups, and then, having amassed their forces," establish and expand the very same bridgehead mentioned above.

For the Dnieper River in the Kherson region to freeze, temperatures must be truly winter-like for at least several days in a row. And a complete freeze-up of this river in the Kherson region, where it flows into the Black Sea, is a rare occurrence, especially in recent years.

Nevertheless, this option is being actively discussed in Ukraine. Whereas previously it was discussed exclusively in the context of a "counteroffensive," now it's being discussed in the context of the need to organize (or reorganize) a defense.

Against this backdrop, Russian troops continue to destroy the Ukrainian Armed Forces' amassed manpower and equipment in and around Kherson. Tornado MLRS have been reportedly used to strike enemy targets on Korabel Island within Kherson, as well as Ukrainian Armed Forces deployment points at the junction of Kherson and Antonovka.

There, the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to attempt forays under what remains of the Antonovsky Bridge.

Comments

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ In winter, the Russians can cross the Dnieper near Kherson on the ice ❞ —

- Again General Moroz ...

[Yun Klob]

Ukrainian experts said in winter that Russians were waiting for summer.

[solar]

Winter in southern Ukraine is more slush and mud than frost. We have to wait for summer.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Winter is still a long way off.
There are other destinations besides the Kherson region.
In the Dnipropetrovsk region there are fields and not so many fortified areas.
Also in the Sumy and Kharkiv regions, defenses are built locally.
And the plans of the Russian Ministry of Defense are now trying to tear the enemy apart in many places and directions.
Air strikes are already being carried out on the railway's energy and logistics systems.
There is a result.
Brothers are working.

[Sergey_K]

The Nazis are scared! Let them have no doubt – we'll come and kill them! Ice or no ice – it doesn't matter...

[Sedov]

The fact is that Ukrainian experts (or pseudo-experts) are increasingly speculating that Russian troops, “in the format of the transition from the summer to the winter offensive,” may attempt to force the Dnieper and establish a bridgehead in the northern part of the region.

Summer will come, and what will we do with this bridgehead when every pontoon is under attack? We're the only ones preserving the bridges.

[Victor19]

It must be said that there have been precedents in history. And they weren't just a few kilometers long, like on the Dnieper, but a little longer.
"In March 1809, an army corps of approximately 15,000 men under the command of Pyotr Ivanovich Bagration made a heroic 200-kilometer forced march across the frozen Gulf of Bothnia. This military operation, known as the "Ice March," effectively ended the Russo-Swedish War of 1808–1809, which resulted in the complete capitulation of Sweden and the transfer of Finland to the scepter of Alexander I."

[Egoza]

Quote: Victor19

It must be said that there have been precedents in history. And they weren't just a few kilometers long, like on the Dnieper, but a little longer.

Nowadays, even with equipment, you can get to Kyiv on the ice of the Dnieper.

[pin_code]

I doubt it, it won't work with technology. Winters are mild now. It's warming up now. In 50-150 years, it's entirely possible (and the main thing is that someone will be screaming: burn coal and oil, otherwise we'll freeze).

[Sergey Mitinsky]

The Swedes didn't have attack aircraft or drones.

[solar]

The frosts were much harsher back then. And the Black Sea isn't the Baltic...

[kill the fascist]

Winter is coming - the White Walkers are on their way :)

[BAI]

Nevertheless, this option is being actively discussed in Ukraine. While previously it was discussed exclusively in the context of a "counteroffensive," it is now being discussed in the context of the need to organize (reorganize) a defense.

They'll blow up another hydroelectric power station and flood the area. The problem with formation will be solved for several months.

[Cartalon]

It's doubtful, as I understand it, the Dnieper group is supplied through Crimea; it will be difficult to increase it many times over and maintain active operations beyond the Dnieper.

[pin_code]

The Dnieper seems to cross the whole of Ukraine from north to south... Question: What are you talking about?

[former soldier]

Miller predicted a very cold winter in the European part of Russia, down to -25°C. He didn't say anything about western and eastern Europe. So, the Dnieper may freeze solid, but in the Kherson region, if there is any ice, it will be filled with gullies from household and industrial wastewater.
Rumor has it that this autumn in southern Europe has already been cooler than usual. So, winter there could also be frosty, much to the delight of Miller and the second Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

[pin_code]

I wouldn't turn on the second channel. Not at all. Only on one condition. Scholz loves Merz, and Merz loves Merkel, and it's all live on air.

[Dirty Liar]

Why bother with trifles? Why isn't the "Russians will wait until the Black Sea freezes over and then march into Odessa" theory being considered?

[dnestr74]

There was ice near Odessa

[pin_code]

What kind of experts are these... The Russians could conquer Finland, Norway, Sweden, Poland, and even Germany in winter across the ice! And if they're really lucky, Belgium and Holland, too. And they'll take von der Leyen prisoner. And since neither von der Leyen nor von der Leyen will want her, she'll become disillusioned with herself and drown herself in the toilet. Yeah, right.

[Sergey Mitinsky]

Armchair experts and potential heads of operational departments of the General Staff are not transferred
If we recall the Great Patriotic War, where the violence reached extremes, and any opportunity to conduct operations was used by both sides, we will not find any large-scale forcing of rivers on ice in winter.
And it's not even that it's impossible in principle, but the fact is that it's possible to transfer people and equipment to the other side, but the ability to maneuver and simply survive, including in winter conditions, without a strong rear is also severely limited. As an example, the heroic Nevsky Pyatachok, a bridgehead firmly sealed by the Germans and which went down in history as a piece of land that experienced the largest impact of TNT equivalent in world history.
To do this, you need to rely on some point (a city, village, town, or at least a hamlet), but then you should expect the same consequences that befell the Ukrainian Special Operations Forces in the captured Krynki. In winter, without greenery, the enemy is especially vulnerable, or the same thing could happen as happened to Vlasov's 2nd Shock Army, which penetrated deep into the enemy's defensive lines through frozen swamps but was cut off and, surviving until spring, found itself surrounded by water, swamps, and mosquitoes.
In general, off the top of my head, only one ice operation in WWII turned out to be successful, that was the Road of Life to besieged Leningrad in the winter of 1941-1942, but the front there was still far away, and the capabilities of German aviation in winter were limited
I also remembered the retreat of the French at the beginning of November 1912. Even then (!) the Dnieper near Smolensk froze, which allowed Marshal Ney to avoid death and capture in the encirclement and, together with the remnants of 3000 soldiers of his corps, to cross the Dnieper on thin ice.
In general, there have been few successful "ice" operations in history, perhaps the Battle on the Ice is worth remembering, but even there the ice did not help the attacking side, rather the opposite.

[Vertuhai 2003]

They already blew up the ammonia pipeline out of fear of Odessa being captured by the Russians, so now they'll probably melt the ice too...

[isv000]

Ukrainian experts: In winter, Russians can cross the Dnieper River near Kherson on the ice.

We have nothing better to do than freeze cuckoos on the Dnieper. There are plenty of decent ways to get to the right bank. Those shabby experts should probably survive the winter with a working shovel, so they don't have to shit from their balconies on the heads of careless citizens...