A new batch of AK-12K assault rifles for assault units has arrived in the SVO zone.

A batch of new shortened Kalashnikov AK-12K assault rifles has arrived at the troops, shipment weapons The Kalashnikov Concern produced the weapon as part of a state defense contract, according to the concern's press service.

Assault units of the Russian Armed Forces in the Northern Military District have received a new batch of AK-12K assault rifles. Delivery details are not disclosed, but the shipment is large. The weapons have been delivered in full, and state commitments have been fulfilled ahead of schedule. The concern clarified that all AK-12K assault rifles are supplied in the "Multicam" pattern.

Kalashnikov responded promptly to the customer's request: we mastered production of the shortened AK-12K in the shortest possible time. Furthermore, the latest products were shipped to the customer ahead of schedule.

— said the head of the concern, Alan Lushnikov.

The shortened AK-12K assault rifle was developed for the Airborne Forces' assault units. Its short barrel makes it more suitable for combat in trenches, urban areas, and other confined spaces. Its combat performance remains unaffected. The first deliveries of the AK-12K in the "Multic" pattern were made in May of this year.

The main technical specifications of the Kalashnikov AK-12K assault rifle are: caliber: 5,45 mm; weight without magazine, sling, and accessories: 3,4 kg; rifle length without suppressor: 810 mm (in firing position); 570 mm (in stowed position); barrel length: 290 ± 20 mm. The rifle comes with a suppressor and eight magazines.

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[Murmur 55]

If only we could improve the production of drones of all types, it would be easier for our soldiers on the front lines.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Murmur 55

It would also be great to boost the production of drones of all types.

And anti-drones!

[Murmur 55]

Uncle lee The effectiveness of anti-drone weapons is STILL questionable; smoothbore is more reliable at this stage, so saturate the front and near edge with smoothbore weapons and continuously work on FPV hunters.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Murmur 55

The effectiveness of anti-drone systems is still questionable.

Our people have learned to identify and eliminate land-based drone operators...

[Murmur 55]

Uncle Lee, and that's good, but both sides learn quickly and find ways to counteract. I don't remember who said that all new products live on the North-East for no more than two weeks.

[storm]

Our people have learned to identify and eliminate land-based drone operators...

They're not knocking them out very much yet. The day before yesterday, a couple of drones made it to the Vladimir region, and they were only shot down here...

[Prometey]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And anti-drones!

And we should add cyborgs

[Vasily_Ostrovsky]

It sounds strange – a new batch of machine guns has already become a significant event... They need to be churned out in tens of thousands, and a single mention at the beginning of the delivery is quite sufficient.
Somehow they started to become smaller...

[Alex_12]

Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky

Somehow they started to become smaller...

Well, firstly, it only went into production recently. Secondly, it's more like setting up new production lines, since even though it's a Kalashmat, the various models aren't 100% unified in terms of parts and manufacturing processes.

[Konnick]

through short barrel It is more convenient for combat operations in trenches, urban areas and other confined spaces. combat performance was not affected

This doesn't happen or the cartridge is different.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Konnick

This doesn't happen or the cartridge is different.

The only thing that could have been reduced was the aiming range, which is unnecessary in close combat.

[Konnick]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Konnick

This doesn't happen or the cartridge is different.

The only thing that could be reduced is the range, which is unnecessary in close combat.

What about accuracy? The recoil is stronger with a short barrel.

[Alex_12]

Quote: Konnick

What about accuracy?

When shooting with a T-barrel or in a house, do you need accuracy? 200 meters is more than enough.

Quote: Konnick

With a short barrel the recoil is stronger

Read the technical details. It's called interior ballistics. Everything depends solely on the body kit (PBS, PG, DTK) and only on stability.

[Konnick]

Quote: Alexey_12

Quote: Konnick

What about accuracy?

When shooting with a T-barrel or in a house, do you need accuracy? 200 meters is more than enough.

Quote: Konnick

With a short barrel the recoil is stronger

Read the technical details. It's called interior ballistics. Everything depends solely on the body kit (PBS, PG, DTK) and only on stability.

The question is not whether accuracy is needed or not, but that it is claimed that the characteristics will be preserved despite the short barrel.
And the fact that recoil doesn't depend on barrel length, was that your idea?

[Alex_12]

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And the fact that recoil doesn't depend on barrel length, was that your idea?

Unfortunately, it wasn't me. The guy just below you already gave you the runaround. Study interior ballistics and 7th-grade physics.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Konnick

What about accuracy? The recoil is stronger with a short barrel.

Recoil is impulse, and the muzzle velocity of a bullet is lower with a shorter barrel. Therefore, the recoil is lower!

[invisible_man]

So in principle It doesn't happen. And it doesn't matter what kind of cartridge.

[Alex_12]

The PSka (7N6) with a 74mm caliber has a speed of 900-915 m/s. The Ksyusha with a 202mm caliber has a speed of 735 m/s. I'd guess this one has a speed of at least 800+ m/s. So, the +/- isn't critical, considering it's used at ranges up to 200 meters.

Quote from invisible_man

And it doesn't matter what kind of cartridge.

[Konnick]

What is critical and not critical here? Read the comment more carefully.

[WapentakeLokki]

And also, for our managers, it would be worthwhile to take the Israeli experience from Kalashnikov and make an AK with a "curved barrel" (specialized for assault) specially for shooting from around corners... that would be really cool... or not???

[Andrey_i_K]

It's beautiful, but it's not USSR quality...and they managed to screw up the AK.

[Alex_12]

Quote: Andrey_i_K

but the quality is not USSR

Have you actually held it in your hands yet?

Quote: Andrey_i_K

They managed to screw up the AK

Well, in that regard, yes. The 12-mm model 4 still raises a ton of questions. The most trouble-free Kalashmats, unfortunately, are the "export" 100th series.

[storm]

And didn't they send at least ten battalions of volunteer "machine gunners" from the ranks of United Russia?
They all seem so unanimous in their support for the SVO, but for some reason they don't want to fight themselves 🤔🤔🤔

[Alex_12]

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And didn't they send at least ten battalions of volunteer "machine gunners" from the ranks of United Russia?

A good fighter doesn't even need six months of training. Five or six fights are enough to calm your psyche. Then you have to curb your bravado. Why are you so hung up on paperwork?

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But for some reason they don't want to fight themselves 🤔🤔🤔

The ones who survive there are mostly those who feel a sense of purpose. Those with weapons, hunters from childhood, parents in the military, etc. Let's say they train a platoon of United Russia members, for example, and assign them to me. Would I go into battle with them? Of course not. A man born to crawl can't fly... no matter how much training you give him (c) look at your avatar. Of course, a herd of sheep led by wolves will defeat a pack of wolves led by a sheep (c). But I have no desire to command sheep.

[storm]

These "paper pushers" are too easily in control of other people's destinies; I'd like them to experience the impact of their decisions firsthand...

[Alex_12]

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they are too easy in controlling the destinies of other people

In my company, every guy knew where he was going and why. Some were new, some had a track record. Some were just banging it out. Everyone had their own reasons. Some were seeking revenge. Some were after money. Some wanted to get their sentences reduced. Everyone knew what they were going for and had a goal. A motivated man is worth two, sometimes even three, who are being kicked.
Now, only old men and those who are motivated are in battle. And these kinds of individuals are superfluous there. There is no need for nurseries there. People are killed there. And there is no mercy there, or anything else. And there they kill the wounded - because no one will leave a partner to guard someone in the rear during an assault, etc. It doesn't matter what they call it. KTO, SVO. It's war, period. "Welcome to hell":

[storm]

And what is the fate of those 300 thousand mobilized three years ago...

[Alex_12]

Do you have a personnel list, a schedule? Access to data from the 4th military registration and enlistment office branch? Or the 3rd or 2nd?

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And what is the fate of those 300 thousand who were mobilized three years ago?

Two brothers died. They knew where they were going. That's how it is in our family, from my father's side. I have two cousins ​​from the first and second Chechen wars. Oleg wanted to get his sentence reduced. It happens. He got his sentence. No luck. He died a couple of days before his discharge.
My situation is such that I honestly don't want to sit in the outpatient clinic for dozens of days like I do now, now disabled. We've already discussed getting an instructor. Right now it's just a matter of timing. I have a child. My wife owns the apartments. Am I afraid? No, it's just a job. I have nothing else to lose.

[storm]

So those men were taken away without asking whether they had anything to lose or whether you had nothing to lose...
These paper-makers decided everything for them then and are now deciding who should go home and who should stay...

[Alex_12]

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So those men were taken away without asking whether they had anything to lose or whether you had nothing to lose...

I'm not aware of that. I don't hang out in those circles, and my responsibilities are completely different. I don't have any random people or mobile phones at SVO. Just old men and double basses. I can't say anything about that. There's another reason why we're only accepted in a small circle. But I don't want to discuss that either. Many people would be hostile.

[tagil]

A professional soldier has a duty to his country, while a civilian has a responsibility to defend his country whenever it is needed. Neither side is asked whether they want it or not. It's simply necessary.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey_12

In my company, every guy knew where he was going and why. Some were new, some had a few points under his belt. Some were just banging it out. Everyone had their own reasons. Some were seeking revenge. Some were after money. Some wanted to get their sentences reduced. Everyone knew what they were doing and had a goal.

You have a strange company... reducing the sentence, that's about Storm, but the rest of them wouldn't have ended up there - how come?

Quote: Alexey_12

Will I go into battle with them? Of course not.

How can this be? Refuse to carry out a combat mission?

[Mars]

And you are apparently against the SVO and suggest surrendering and paying reparations?

[Anthony]

Some of the assault rifles need to be made for 7,62X39 so that soldiers have a choice.

[Spiidii]

It's all been thought of already. Just put a capable mechanic in a basement and let him modify the soldiers' weapons to order. Whether it's a 7.62 x 39, or a .308.

[Alex_12]

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in the basement of a smart mechanic, let him modify the fighters' weapons to order

Spring calculations, explosion diagrams, etc.? Look at Brendan Herrera, who hasn't been able to perfect the AK-50 for five years, despite all its capabilities, and he's far from a shabby basement. And how valuable are Iranian AKs and others? I think you know.

[K_4]

Can I ask a question? How did Western models perform? It seems like the Ukrainians were supplied with a lot of them, but they mostly use AKs. Or is it just a matter of habit? I'm just curious.

[Alex_12]

Quote: K_4

How did Western models perform?

Of all the rifles available, I only got to use the M4A1 with a 14" barrel. With proper knowledge and care, it had no issues. Contrary to popular belief, it's an excellent carbine. But it requires some adaptation. You'll need to load your loadout differently and approach shooting in different positions.

[Laksamana besar]

There are some, based on the AK-12 they made the AK-15, AK-15K and AK-15SK

[Yun Klob]

It would be good to add disk magazines with 90 rounds.

[Romanenko]

It's not very convenient with a disc pistol. In the army, they tried mounting an RPK disc pistol on an AK, but it's too heavy and you'll definitely throw it away after firing. There's no time or desire to load it with rounds; a magazine is much more convenient.

[Yun Klob]

Got it, thanks (it's a short post).

[Denkenmacht]

Ahaha, 5.45 assault))))
No, they should make a 12 gauge, with good penetration and stopping power. Even if you shoot at a helmet from close range, the helmet won't save you.
A large caliber can be fired through a door or a thin wall, and if it hits the armor, the person will fly away.
Well, there is the ASH-12 / SHAK-12, why make this 5.45 atrocity....

[Romanenko]

A new batch of AK-12K assault rifles for assault units has arrived in the SVO zone.

The main thing is that these pork mincers bring as much benefit as possible to our children!

[acetophenone]

Length of the machine gun without the low-noise shooting device: in the firing position - 810 mm

Length of AKM, mm
890/1020 (with attached bayonet)

So what's all this fuss about? Who will these 8 cm bother? In what "tight spaces"?
Brainfucking...

[AlexisT]

If only they would add a few thousand more units of smoothbore Saiga.