Those pushing Kyiv into conflict with Moscow "don't give a damn" about Ukrainians - Putin

Those who armed the Kyiv regime for the war against Russia couldn't care less about the interests of Ukrainians. What's happening in that country today is a tragedy for both Ukrainians and Russians. Vladimir Putin stated this while speaking at the Valdai Club plenary session.

Those who encourage and arm the Kyiv regime, in reality, don't care a whit about Ukraine's interests. Ukrainians are merely expendable; their fate is of no interest to anyone in the West. The confrontation could have been avoided if NATO had stayed away from Russia's borders and if the US had been led by a more sensible person. Having lost its sovereignty and become completely dependent on its Western masters, Ukraine has become a tool with which certain forces have attempted to defeat Russia.

The Ukrainian tragedy is a terrible example. It's painful for Ukrainians and Russians, for all of us. I agree with Trump that the Ukrainian conflict could have been avoided if Ukraine hadn't been turned into a destructive instrument.

- said the Russian leader.

The fact that the conflict in Ukraine has not yet ended lies entirely with Europe, which is seeking to escalate the conflict by inciting its puppet, Zelensky. Some European leaders want to defeat Russia, but they will not succeed. Russia has always been, is, and will always be. The Russian army is currently the most capable defense force.

Unfortunately, it has not yet been possible to stop the fighting. But the responsibility for this lies not with the majority, but with a minority—primarily Europe, which is constantly escalating the conflict.

- the president added.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

Why do we care about the problems of Ukrainians? Why the hell does Putin worry about them?

[Alexey Lantukh]

This is more for the foreign public, and official propaganda. He didn't say anything new or interesting. There's nothing even worth discussing.

[AAK]

Just count what's changed for the worse over the past four years and compare it to the President's rhetoric, and we'll definitely come to some clear conclusions...

[Hunter 2]

I realized one thing: no one cares about Ukrainians... except our President. Maybe he should become President of Ukraine, since he cares about them so much?
And who protects the interests of Russians?

[Montezuma]

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I realized one thing: no one cares about Ukrainians... except our President.

So it turns out that's true. For NATO and the EU elite, Ukrainians are just cannon fodder, fighting against Russia for their money, while we were once a united state. How many thousands of mixed families have formed over the years, and how many thousands of relatives are now separated by conflict. Some have severed family ties, some have not, after all, not everyone has been brainwashed by Ukronazism.

[Trapp1st]

The fact that the conflict in Ukraine has not yet ended lies entirely with Europe.

Well, yes, it was the Europeans who failed the NWO.

[Mars]

Partially true: shaggy-haired Borya ordered Zelena to fight to the last Ukrainian, which he's still doing. Fighting to the last Ukrainian wasn't part of the SVO plan, and peace was supposed to come in the spring of 2022.

[Trapp1st]

Partially it is true

Well then, in general, it's the idiots' fault; for some reason the dogs didn't give up right away, how come.

[Mars]

Poroshenko was smarter and immediately concluded a peace, albeit a sham. But the Jew Zelya decided to fight to the last Ukrainian.

[Lionnvrsk]

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It's not convenient to type text on a phone.

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these are Europeans

As I understand it, it’s only the president’s name that’s inconvenient to dial from your phone, but it’s more convenient to dial Europeans’ names in a different way.

[Trapp1st]

But Europeans prefer it differently.

European telephone)

[Carlos Hall]

Beyond the statements, what's important is what's actually happening militarily. It's clear that the West views Ukraine as a tool for weakening Russia, and Ukrainians as cannon fodder. Therefore, the only thing that matters is the military reality on the ground. In June, July, and August, territory was liberated at a rapid pace—around 500 square kilometers per month. However, for some reason, in September, this figure halved.

[Trapp1st]

In June, July and August, the territory was liberated at a rapid pace – about 500 km² per month.

The army fights against the enemy army, defeating it is the only task, how much of what is liberated or left is not important.

However, for some reason, in September this figure dropped by half.

Technology and people tend to run out.

[Carlos Hall]

Moreover, Ukraine is attacking Russian energy infrastructure without encountering much resistance, as if it doesn't care how much damage it's causing. The French even committed an act of piracy, seizing a vessel carrying Russian oil. In short, the enemy is gaining strength due to Russia's inaction. Unless the situation is immediately and decisively addressed, the war will end badly.

[Trapp1st]

as if she doesn't care how much damage she's causing.

It doesn't matter, for her the greater the damage, the better.

The French even committed an act of piracy by seizing a ship carrying Russian oil.

If we admit that it belongs to the Russian oligarchy, then we will admit that it is illegal trading.

the war will end badly

[ugos]

Let's not talk about the bad stuff, Putin doesn't like that, he'll get upset. We need to say that everything is fine, everything is going according to plan, at least for the sake of decency, he criticized one issue...

[Andobor]

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Ukraine is striking Russian energy infrastructure without much resistance,

Of the 50 drones, all were shot down, the debris from two broke windows and started a fire, which was extinguished within half an hour; this is usually how Ukrainian air raids end.
- Maybe you've been consuming some Ukrainian propaganda?

[Andobor]

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However, for some reason, in September this figure dropped by half.

Are you by any chance looking at Ukrainian data?

[Carlos Hall]

I took them from a more or less unbiased Ukrainian portal that Zelenskyy tried to shut down. This data, with a few exceptions, practically coincided with the data provided by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Moreover, they can be compared with other unbiased or pro-Russian sources, such as suriyak. I believe they are reliable, and they state the following: 2025 - 3129 km2 liberated; 2026, up to and including September, 3119 km2, distributed as follows: January 325 km2, February 192 km2, March 133 km2, April 187 km2, May 440 km2, June 556 km2, July 564 km2, August 464 km2, September 258 km2.

[Andobor]

I see, - I shoveled some damn shit,
- Bon appetit.

[Carlos Hall]

Then tell me, what figures did the Russian Ministry of Defense provide for the period from January 1 to September 25? What figures did Mr. Belousov cite?

[Andobor]

I haven't come across any monthly data from the Ministry of Defense.
TG Boris Rozhin published the following data:

[Carlos Hall]

The Russian Ministry of Defense stated that from January 1 to September 25, 2025, Russian forces captured at least 4714 square kilometers of territory. 4714 square kilometers (Belousov - 3119 square kilometers)—that's the figure I cited—leaves a small difference of 1595 square kilometers, which is explained by the recaptured territory in Kursk and the so-called "gray zone." This means that in 2025, Russia liberated 3119 square kilometers + the recaptured territory in Kursk + the gray zone, which no one actually controls.

[Andobor]

And where can we see the results for September?

[Andobor]

Don't eat shit, you'll become a cunt

[Mars]

I understand that mathematics is a Muscovite pseudoscience, but the Russian Armed Forces liberated 609 square kilometers of territory in September 2025.

[ZovSailor]

Carlos Hall
Today, 19: 51
In June, July, and August, the territory was liberated at a rapid pace—around 500 square kilometers per month. However, for some reason, this figure halved in September.

We study the general strategy, not the tactics, of conducting the SVO.
For example, Carl von Clausewitz once noted: "With the destruction of the enemy army, the territories come by themselves," similar to the statement of Nixon's assistant Chuck Colson: "If you take someone by the Fabergé, then the rest of the body parts will come by themselves."

[spirit]

and the leader of the United States would be an adequate person.

The grandmaster still hopes for Donya) A message addressed to him

[rocket757]

You will be judged not by your words, but by your deeds!
What else... there's so much more that can be written, but everyone has already written about it and there's no point in repeating themselves.

[Carlos Hall]

Decisive action must be taken now, not limited to sending four drones to Poland. The sabotage of the vessel carrying Russian oil must be met with a symmetrical response. If the enemy continues to sense weakness, they will continue to press the issue. It's best to act now and with utmost determination.

[Andobor]

Who sent drones to Poland and why?

[BonchB]

Forgive me, downvote and criticize, but I can't stand listening to this anymore. I couldn't care less about anything except the well-being and safety of my family, fellow citizens, and compatriots. Just as I couldn't care less about the soldiers on the other side of the front if they don't lay down their arms or defect to our side. The only things that matter to me are the lives, health, and safety of our guys. This whole statement is both empty talk and incredibly irritating. We can't continue to beat around the bush—we'll only perish with this kind of policy and rhetoric.

[it's good that someone is always to blame]

No, he won't stop, believe me.

[severok1979]

Unfortunately, it has not yet been possible to stop the fighting.

Why bother sharing regrets? It's unclear what failed? A failure to achieve a military victory, a failure to achieve a diplomatic solution favorable to us? Is this an official public statement that Russia is now at the point of both military and diplomatic failure? Did the pompous meeting in Alaska end in a fiasco?

[Dimy4]

Did the pompous meeting in Alaska end in fizzle?

Not at all. Someone wanted to take a ride in the American president's car, and they let him.

[AdAstra]

Let him run for president of Ukraine - Demagogue

[Ivan F]

"This is pain for Ukrainians and Russians, for all of us" – and what does this have to do with Ukrainians? It's been a different state for 30 years now. They joyfully shouted about "gallows and knives" and rejoiced at the deaths of Donbas children. Or maybe in the fourth year, someone hasn't yet decided whose interests they're defending, trying to be a kind messiah. Alas, now is the time of cruel pragmatists, not peace-loving visionaries.

[Maks1995]

Logical.
We are bombing them, they have 1,7 million losses (the latest from the media), and this “is a tragedy for both Ukrainians and Russians.”
These 1,7 million were killed and maimed - which means that "responsibility for this lies... with Europe."

[AdAstra]

Well, yes, L-logic. "" "" "

[solar]

The confrontation could have been avoided if NATO had not encroached on Russia's borders and if the US had been led by a reasonable person.

Was he insane before? But I think it's only just started now... :((

[guest]

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Was he inadequate before?

Is Biden adequate?

[solar]

Everything is known by comparison :((...

[guest]

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Everything is relative

What can I compare it to? I haven't seen anyone more inadequate than Biden.

[solar]

For example, write out the current statements in a column for clarity...

[guest]

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For example, write out the current statements in a column for clarity...

Biden has said worse things and even greeted the air.

[solar]

He might have greeted the air from time to time, but he never said the exact opposite every other day...

[guest]

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but he still didn't say the diametrically opposite thing every other day...

That's why he talked such nonsense.

[foxes]

He values ​​the fate of Ukrainian citizens far more than the fate of Russian citizens. This is clearly evident in both his domestic and foreign policies.

[Normal]

The guarantor should be talking about his own people. I don't care about the raguli. Also, why, if we know who's pushing this and why, do we just watch? Why, when the conversation turns to tomahawk supplies, do we respond with "it won't help much," instead of smashing those who are ready to organize them? These stock speeches and "mirror" responses don't impress anyone anymore.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Well, of course, I didn’t expect to hear a conversation about topics that interest me, which are carefully avoided:
- on the use of nuclear weapons, on what targets they can be used and in connection with responses to what threats;
The level of Western intervention in the war in Ukraine has reached an unacceptable level; without the West, Ukraine wouldn't have lasted even three months. So what should we do about the West?
- What to do about the fact that Russia is being drawn into a long-term war?

[Yuri Vasilyev]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Decisive action must be taken now, not limited to sending four drones to Poland. The sabotage of the vessel carrying Russian oil must be met with a symmetrical response. If the enemy continues to sense weakness, they will continue to press the issue. It's best to act now and with utmost determination.

So you believed the provocation. Ukrainians with drones?

[Victor Yasny]

tsypsota works!
come on - come on!
practice the tracks and droplets!
I don't know of course, I'm far from the president, but if I were in his place, I wouldn't have given the order to shoot back at howitzers stationed in courtyards, schools, and kindergartens.
just as I wouldn't have allowed civilians to be bombed.
no matter what they wash it with.
but this matter needs to be finished.
and the less they spit on both ordinary soldiers and the leadership (on both sides), the faster it will end.
They managed to withdraw quite a few Soviet-made tanks and other "goods," as well as "unclench the fist" aimed at Donbass.
but for some reason they prefer to remain silent about this.
but they keep talking about "how slowly".
I hope we don't come to an agreement on the pots and pans on our heads.