Ukrainian army will receive electronic "ears" of Odessa production

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The Ukrainian military adopted a new reconnaissance automated sound-measuring complex (SPM) "Position-2".

The corresponding order was signed by Defense Minister Pavel Lebedev at the end of February.


"Position-2". Photo SKB "Lightning"


The complex was developed in Odessa SKB "Lightning". It is planned that Odessa will also be engaged in the mass production of this technology. True, when the first "Provisions-2" will go to the troops, is still unknown.

“Unfortunately, in the defense budget for this year there are no funds for the purchase of our complexes,” Vladimir Mingalev, the director of Lightning, complained in an interview with “Duma”. “But we hope to get an order for 2014.”

The Odessa Design Bureau started the development of the “Position-2” in the distant 1995, and completed it in December last year. The complex, says Vladimir Mingalev, is unique in the post-Soviet space.

In general, such systems on the planet produce only six states - the United States, Britain, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Israel. Odessa product in this company is quite competitive, say its creators.

The task of the sound complex is to determine the location of the enemy’s guns, mortars and multiple rocket launchers, then direct friendly guns at them and adjust their fire.

Razk consists of a hardware machine based on a multi-purpose transporter MT-LBu, three acoustic bases, nine highly sensitive sensor microphones and a weather station. Used navigation equipment "sharpened" under GPS or GLONASS.

The audio information received through the receiver “Positions” is processed by a computer that provides the coordinates of the enemy’s firing artillery and the points of rupture of shells and mines fired by ours. All data is transmitted via encrypted communication channels and is displayed online on the screen of the operator and the digital tablet of the artillery commander.

The maximum range at which the complex hears the enemy - 35 kilometers. He can correct his fire at a distance of 15 km. The closer the sound source is, the more precisely the SCM determines its location.

The state enterprise Special Design Bureau Molniya was founded in Odessa in 1972 year. SKB developments are used in military engineering, energy, communication systems, engineering and other fields. Over the 40 years of its existence, Molniya has developed and introduced several generations of sound systems that are in service with the Ukrainian and other armies.

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  1. patline
    +2
    April 23 2013 11: 07
    Interesting technique. It is time to unite the Union back, then we will do better equipment. Ukraine and Russia are brothers forever.
    1. -3
      April 23 2013 11: 19
      Unfortunately, only the peoples of Ukraine and Russia are brothers forever, as well as a very miserable part of the leadership of both countries. recourse Ridna Nenko is currently pursuing a completely fraternal policy.
      1. -9
        April 23 2013 11: 51
        with such brothers .. no enemies needed
        1. Captain Vrungel
          -2
          April 23 2013 12: 43
          It’s not necessary to equate everyone, Citizen Citizen.
          1. +1
            April 23 2013 20: 28
            Quote: Captain Vrungel
            It’s not necessary to equate everyone, Citizen Citizen.

            and what good has Russia done for Russia since 1991?
            1. LINX
              +1
              April 27 2013 02: 01
              and what good has Russia done for Ukraine since 1991, what would count on gratitude?
              1. +1
                April 27 2013 05: 08
                Quote: LINX
                and what good has Russia done for Ukraine since 1991

                Your economy was sponsored so that the Ukrainian economy does not bend. Even despite the UNSO militants in Chechnya, despite the fact that our planes were shot down. So ask yourself what Ukraine has done for Russia since 91, the hair stand on end.
                1. Kaa
                  +1
                  April 27 2013 05: 23
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Your economy was sponsored so that the Ukrainian economy does not bend.
                  I will not argue about UNA-UNSO, Galician jamb. But about sponsorship - look how much delicious they have given away "Russian companies have penetrated almost all sectors of the Ukrainian economy. Communications and the chemical industry, consumer goods and the food industry, energy and automotive, banking The neighbors can boast of a monopoly position in mobile communications, oil refining and aluminum / alumina production, where the share of Russian business exceeds 80%. Today, the most widely represented in Ukraine are: NK Lukoil, Consortium Alfa Group, Basic Element and AFK Sistema.
                  Alfa Group Consortium:
                  · 67% of the shares of the oil refinery "LINOS" (Lisichansk refinery);
                  · 76% of shares of Kyivinvestbank (renamed Alfa-Bank Ukraine);
                  · Dniproenergo and a 10% stake in Centrenergo;
                  · A controlling stake in Storm (which owns 40,1% of Kyivstar);
                  · Media “New Channel” and “Our Radio”.
                  NK "Lukoil":
                  · Odessa Oil Refinery (which is one of the largest enterprises of this industry in Ukraine) and a network of gas stations (about 200);
                  · A controlling stake in the Lukor petrochemical enterprise (Kalush, Ivano-Frankivsk region);
                  · STB channel.
                  RusAl Company:
                  · Nikolaev Alumina Refinery (which now ranks second in the world in terms of production);
                  · Dnieper Metallurgical Plant.
                  Alliance Group:
                  · Krymnefteprodukt and Khersonnefteprodukt companies;
                  · Gas station network (about 180);
                  · Stakhanov Carriage Works.
                  The Ministry of Land Property of the Republic of Tatarstan (28,8%) and OAO Tatneft (8,6%):
                  · Own stakes in Ukrtatnafta company (which owns the largest in Ukraine Kremenchug oil refinery) (taking into account shareholders close to the government of the Republic of Tatarstan, sometimes represented by offshore companies, about 56% of the refinery's shares are controlled).
                  AvtoVAZ-invest:
                  · 68% of the shares of Zaporizhzhya aluminum smelter;
                  IARC Group:
                  · Controlling stakes in six enterprises for the collection and processing of ferrous metals (Cherkassky, Kherson, Kharkov, Vinnitsa, Zhytomyr).
                  AFK Sistema (MTS OJSC):
                  · UMC (Ukrainian Mobile Communications, the largest mobile operator in Ukraine).
                  The Russian Federation owns 223 objects throughout Ukraine, including 150 objects in the Crimea. Of these, 61 health resortshttp: //www.perspektivy.info/oykumena/krug/rossijsko-ukrainskije_otnoshe

                  nija_mezhdu_politikoj_i_ekonomikoj_2009-05-21.htm
                  As of January 1, 2012, 9 banks operated in Ukraine
                  with Russian capital. This is Sberbank of Russia, Vneshtorgbank
                  (VTB), Prominvestbank (since 2009, owned by the Russian Vnesh-
                  economic bank "), Alfa Bank, Bank of Moscow (BM Bank), as well as
                  smaller banks: Petrocommerce-Ukraine, Energobank, Russian
                  standard ”and Trust Bank. According to the Association of Ukrainian
                  banks (AUB) 9 Russian banks own approximately 15,5% of the active
                  World Bank of the Ukrainian banking system (and this percentage is constantly growing),
                  16,3% of the total loan and investment portfolio, about 10% of the deposit
                  of individuals and about 16% of legal entities. Their joint capital
                  accounts for approximately 14,5% of the total capital of Ukrainian banks.
                  This is not so much, but the largest
                  Russian banks that can provide at any time in their
                  disposal of virtually unlimited resources1http: //inecon.org/docs/Kheifets_Vestnik_2012_4.pdf
                  1. +1
                    April 27 2013 05: 35
                    Quote: Kaa
                    . But as for sponsorship - look at how much delicious they have given away "Russian companies have penetrated almost all sectors of the Ukrainian economy

                    Hi Kaa! As for penetration, we also have foreign companies, including those at VAZ, but this does not mean that this is all given or given away hi
                    As regards injections into the economy, since 91 Ukraine received in the form of preferences all kinds of assistance in the region from 15-20 billion dollars. It’s not worth counting how much is invested by private traders, it simply won’t be objective. Yes, and now the main market for Ukraine is Russia, tighten the screws and the economy will become a stake. According to the facilities, well, firstly, these facilities are not ruined and bring profit and tax deductions to the budget of Ukraine and their purchase also brought a lot of money to the budget of Ukraine.
                    1. Kaa
                      +1
                      April 27 2013 11: 30
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      since 91 Ukraine received in the form of preferences all kinds of assistance in the region from 15-20 billion dollars.
                      Well, then I'll sit down on my favorite h.h.h.l.y.ts.k.u. theme. Tymoshenko you well grabbed on her old contracts with your military builders, rightly so, a cool contract for Gazprom signed with her, your politicians OFFER. Now - what we have in the bottom line for the notorious gas - "Ukraine annually overpays to Russia for the supplied gas by $ 7 billion, said Prime Minister Mykola Azarov." We overpay $ 7 billion annually - that's about 60 billion UAH, and what is 60 billion UAH? This is 4 annual volume of road construction, for example, "- Azarov said on the air of the Shuster Live talk show on the evening of March 1. According to the Prime Minister, this creates pressure on the Ukrainian economy, as well as pressure on the hryvnia." We are throwing away UAH 60 billion, we give Russia, overpaying for gas, this is a colossal burden, "he said. Azarov clarified that Kiev fully fulfills its contractual obligations to Moscow, always paying for the gas consumed in full. http://zn.ua/ECONOMICS/azarov-ukraina- ezhegodno-pereplachivaet-rossii-za-gaz-7-m

                      lrd-dollarov-118050_.html
                      It is not Tymoshenko who pays, she was put in to get to her stash, the people pay (who partly pray for her "Yuli-volu!"), So we already count for preferences. And those 40% of the population who want CU, they were not allowed to turn Ukraine into Georgia in 2005, then the border of Russia with NATO would pass between Belgorod and Kharkov. Do we need it? wink
                      1. 0
                        April 27 2013 11: 46
                        laughing
                        Quote: Kaa
                        Well, then I’ll sit down on my favorite h.o.hl.ya.ts.k.u.yu topic.
                        Come on
                        Quote: Kaa
                        - "Ukraine annually overpays to Russia for the supplied gas by $ 7 billion, said Prime Minister Mykola Azarov

                        Azarov says a lot of things and even scored a contract, there’s a good restraint for not getting gas. it’s a pity that Azarov at the same time forgets that Russia pays 4 billion for the fleet in Crimea, there are no such prices in the world. And by the way, when Yanek came to power and came to Moscow he was completely satisfied with the contract and he had no claims, and then all of a sudden it started. So everything is under a big question.
                        Quote: Kaa
                        .And those 40% of the population who want to the CU did not allow Ukraine to turn into Georgia in 2005, then the border of Russia with NATO would pass between Belgorod and Kharkov. Do we need it?

                        40% what not a little, if your TV channels did not have EU propaganda, then the number would be much higher. By the way, Georgia didn’t join NATO, and Ukraine would not be taken there, as it would not be taken to the EU
      2. 0
        April 23 2013 22: 11
        Quote: Kuygorozhik
        Unfortunately, only the peoples of Ukraine and Russia are brothers forever, as well as a very miserable part of the leadership of both countries. recourse Ridna Nenko is currently pursuing a completely fraternal policy.

        Yes, because Ridny Nenka is ruled by compatriots of a memorable Berezovsky. And in Russia there are not a lot of them. And they have advisers of the type of Bzezhinsky and Kissinger (overseas compatriots). They need to be driven to their promised land. Only then there will be sense. And so ... They will lay down with bones but will not allow us to be together ..
    2. -2
      April 23 2013 14: 55
      So this is our Ukrainian, and what do we have in Russia:

      Click image to enlarge.







      1. +3
        April 23 2013 19: 59
        Radar is not a passive sound meter.
      2. Alexander D.
        +3
        April 23 2013 20: 22
        If you decide to compare the radar, then compare with what is on the site of the NGO Iskra (Zaporozhye).
  2. pa_nik
    +6
    April 23 2013 11: 09
    Decent car. News about military equipment never ceases to amaze. How much effort is put into optimizing the maximization of killing people recourse passion...
    1. 0
      April 23 2013 12: 48
      [img]http://alflash.com.ua/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=568&sid=094df70a475965994
      760fc0e217533a9 & mode = view [/ img]
      Here is another scheme of Razk.
    2. 0
      April 23 2013 12: 55
      Here is another application scheme RAC
  3. +3
    April 23 2013 11: 18
    In the photo, the right hatch looks like it has repeatedly been closed on the heads of fighters laughing.
    In general, it is gratifying for the brothers of the Slavs that they are doing something, production is not worth it.
  4. Comrad
    +1
    April 23 2013 11: 25
    In the last picture, the guys in the "toothache" form are depicted as the enemy.

    Smiles.
    1. -3
      April 23 2013 14: 41
      Quiet only to anyone, this is our blunder. We are officially friends with Europe. Unofficially, weapons are imprisoned against NATO.
  5. +2
    April 23 2013 11: 42
    Interestingly, but ours are going to do something in this area? Or is the Russian army AZK-7 enough?
    1. -3
      April 23 2013 14: 57
      By the first comment I gave information about Russian products.
      1. +2
        April 23 2013 16: 21
        I didn’t see sound metering systems there. Only radar, snar and arsom. One does not replace the other.

  6. +1
    April 23 2013 12: 04
    The technique is interesting, well done. It remains to be convinced of the effectiveness not on tests, but when working in a real "noise picture" of the battle. Sometimes tests and demonstrations pursue one goal - the customer will like it, the rest will be finalized.

    In the 90's, in the Donetsk Research Institute of Integrated Automation, a system was developed for detecting broadcasting and guiding suppression means. Delivered by order of Russia, what the result was, remains a mystery - everything fell apart.
    1. 0
      April 23 2013 15: 00
      There is no need to make assumptions. We at NIIKA and Kolchuga and equipment for Russian satellites, and made equipment for Chinese helicopters produced under a Russian license.
      1. -1
        April 23 2013 19: 02
        Perhaps we know each other, for he had the honor of visiting research institutes and had friends there.
  7. 0
    April 23 2013 12: 30
    ... the beginning back in 1995, and completed in December last year.
    At the beginning of the 90s there were no microprocessors with military acceptance. I hope that the element base is modern.
    It seems (photo) that the information from the sensors-microphones (and not only) comes through the wires. On the other hand, thanks to the data transmission not over the air, the sound-measuring complex of the "foe" radar will not "detect". Ie the system is passive.
    But .. “Unfortunately, the defense budget for this year does not have funds for the purchase of our complexes ... We will try to sell over the hill. The main thing is that it does not work out, as with the Malyshev Plant, as soon as it appears on the foreign market competitive products, attempts are immediately made to bankrupt the enterprise ...
    I am glad that there were minds working for a beggarly salary and not having left their homeland!
    PS For the West, hard times will come when (at least) the defense industry enterprises of the three republics join forces.
  8. UFO
    0
    April 23 2013 14: 52
    It would be interesting to compare the performance characteristics of this unit with similar samples of "friends" and enemies. winked
  9. +1
    April 23 2013 15: 56
    “Unfortunately, in the defense budget for this year there are no funds for the purchase of our complexes,” Vladimir Mingalev, the director of Lightning, complained in an interview with “Duma”. “But we hope to get an order for 2014.”

    As if this unique technique did not sail to China ... sad
  10. gladiatorakz
    +2
    April 23 2013 19: 16
    Well done Odessa !!!
  11. Nesvet Nezar
    -3
    April 23 2013 21: 39
    The Ukrainian army will receive electronic "ears" made in Odessa and a rubber "buoy" made in Lvov ...
  12. +1
    April 23 2013 22: 44
    Ukrainian army will receive electronic "ears" of Odessa production


    Something I don’t really like eared near our border!
  13. Polytechnic
    -1
    April 23 2013 23: 22
    Wow! The news is good, he himself from Odessa and after the Polytechnic thought to go to the Lightning Design Bureau, but he was trying to go or not, is there work there and there is such news.))