The 1916 Turkestan Uprising: Awakening or Fall?

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The 1916 Turkestan Uprising: Awakening or Fall?


What do historians from the Central Asian republics prefer to ignore?


The series “People in White Robes, or the Influence of Manichaeism on the Development of Islam in Central Asia” and “From the Shaman’s Drum to the Sufi’s Staff, or the Path of Islam in Central Asia” discussed the specific features of the spread of the religion brought by the Arabs to Maverannahr.



This specificity, based on the synthesis of pre-Islamic beliefs with Sharia and the ideas about it of various directions of Sufism, survived until the 20th century, as seen in: “Tajikistan: Get to the Root, or Islam under Developed Socialism" And already in the late Soviet period, the second religious renaissance of the last century began in Central Asia. The first was partly connected with the Basmachi movement.

In Soviet historiography, it was given a negative assessment. With the collapse of the USSR, however, in the newly formed Central Asian republics, ideas about Basmachi were transformed, and radicals like T. Yuldashev (see: "Izetbegovic and Yuldashev – the unity of the dissimilar, or the Territory of War”) saw themselves as the heirs of this movement.

In turn, condemning pan-Islamism aimed at destroying secular statehood in the former fraternal republics of Central Asia, local historiography began to mold the Basmachi into heroes, and to view their struggle against the Soviet government as a national liberation struggle, the beginning of which was laid by the 1916 uprising in Turkestan against the imperial administration.


V. Vereshchagin's painting "At the Doors of the Mosque" is a very expressive canvas that could well be called "The Sleeping East."

The latter was also assessed in the USSR as anti-feudal, national liberation, and progressive. But Soviet historians preferred to ignore the fact that the uprising became a prologue to the Basmachi uprising.

Was the uprising progressive? Let's discuss it. Let's begin by answering the question: what did Central Asia gain from becoming part of the Russian Empire?

The region has become part of the state, writes a leading Russian specialist on stories A.V. Ganin, the author of the book "The Civil War in Russia," wrote about a region that had reached an incomparable level of socioeconomic and cultural development. The extension of all-Russian standards to the region resulted in a colossal modernization leap that would have taken centuries under other conditions. As a result of the establishment of peace and order, the development of the region, the expansion of public health services, and the fight against epidemics, mortality rates dropped significantly, and a population explosion occurred in Turkestan. From the mid-19th century to 1916, the population increased from 4 to 7,5 million. Education began to spread. A railway network covered the region. Telegraphs, post offices, irrigation canals, industry (primarily cotton growing), and banks emerged. All this led to improved economic indicators and stimulated the overcoming of centuries-old backwardness. At the same time, the Russian administration respected the traditions and customs of the indigenous population. Moreover, the indigenous administration, formed from representatives of the indigenous population, played a crucial role in the region's governance system. Naturally, radical changes were perceived ambiguously by traditional society, influencing consciousness and lifestyle, and sometimes giving rise to discontent.

In other words, the region's annexation by the Russian Empire was progressive. However, the Central Asian republics prefer to ignore these facts. Local historiography instills in the population a false and somewhat Russophobic view of the recent past, viewing the 1916 uprising as the result of "almost 50 years of Russian colonial rule in Turkestan." This is the opinion of prominent Tajik historian N. Rakhimov.


The "Ominous Grin" of Russian Imperial Colonialism in Central Asia

At the same time, the scientific community of the Central Asian republics prefers to hush up the atrocities committed by the rebels against Russian settlers, but they were of a monstrous nature.

In his study, A.V. Ganin cites evidence of the rebels' chilling cruelty toward Russian women and children. I don't think this can be found in most works by historians from the Central Asian republics. Otherwise, the rebels would turn from heroes into monsters.

What were the interethnic aspects of the confrontation, what was the role of social and religious factors in it, what were the mistakes of the imperial administration in the region, and why did the uprising occur?

The Emperor's Mistake


So, the trigger for it was the highest order of Nicholas II of June 25, 1916, “On the requisition of foreigners from Central Asia and Kazakhstan for work on the construction of defensive structures and military communications in the area of ​​the active army.”

Both the mobilization of the male population into the army and the significant losses in its ranks, especially during the Great Retreat of 1915, made it necessary to recruit non-Russians for rearguard work. However, the date was poorly chosen, as it coincided with the summer cotton harvest, in which some of the population subject to mobilization participated.

Furthermore, the psychological factors of the non-Russians were not taken into account when drafting the decree. Firstly, they had not previously been involved in the construction of defensive fortifications; secondly, rumors began to circulate among the villages and camps of the Kyrgyz nomads about the impending dispatch of mobilized soldiers to the front.


Kyrgyz camp

Like all rumors, they were also absurd—for example, they talked about foreigners digging trenches between the opposing sides, and as a result, they would all be killed or driven ahead of the troops to be slaughtered. The effect was like a bomb exploding.

An important detail: the mobilization was not universal. However, this factor also played to the disadvantage of local authorities, as nobles, representatives of the foreign administration, mullahs, teachers and students of secondary and higher educational institutions, paramedics, translators, smallpox vaccinators, clerks, elected officials, civil servants, herders, and drivers of livestock hired under military horse service were exempt from mobilization.

As we can see, the most educated and cultured members of the non-Russian population were not subject to conscription. Perhaps they should have been actively involved in explanatory talks with their fellow tribesmen, particularly by telling them about the good wages mobilized soldiers received:

In addition to state food supplies, writes A. V. Ganin, workers received a salary of 1 ruble per day. Those unable to bring their own clothing and footwear to work received an allowance of up to 30 rubles.

But those being mobilized were unaware of this: either the authorities failed to explain it in time, or those who were pushing the ignorant masses into disobedience themselves concealed such an important aspect. Looking ahead, I note: upon learning about the wages, some of the rebels resigned. weapon.

Nevertheless, the tsar's decree proved akin to throwing a lit match into a keg of gunpowder. Here, we must take the following into account. Those non-Russians who had a positive attitude toward military service volunteered for the army. This applies primarily to the Tekin Cavalry Regiment, which demonstrated high combat qualities at the front.

The realities of war in the 20th century required educated soldiers and officers, since the demonstration of combat qualities, as a rule, is identical to tactical literacy on the battlefield, the ability to handle new types of weapons, which is unthinkable without a relatively high level of outlook.

Accordingly, taking into account, on the one hand, the exemption from mobilization of the most educated and cultured part of the foreigners, and on the other hand, their presence in the army, the darkest masses rebelled, easily manipulated by the leaders.

In this situation, there was nothing progressive about the uprising. Firstly, in the Kyrgyz camps, it was led by the feudal lords, the manaps, who wielded unquestioned power over their fellow tribesmen and had no intention of relinquishing it. Secondly, it was not so much the Russian administration and army units that were primarily targeted, but rather the defenseless villages of the Russian settlers—at least initially, once the element of surprise had been achieved.


Russian settlers in Kazakhstan

The rebels in Przhevalsky district were especially ferocious:

On August 11, the Dungans (descendants of Chinese Muslims – I.Kh.), notes A.V. Ganin, "massacred most of the peasants in the village of Ivanitskoye. The population of the village of Koltsovka was also exterminated. The surviving residents fled to Przhevalsk. By August 16–17, the village of Ivanovka was under siege; a third of the village had burned down, and the bridge was destroyed. The Kyrgyz slaughtered the village of Chetyorke, which consisted of 11 households.

I repeat, the rebels did not spare either women or children, showing monstrous cruelty towards them.

When confronted with traces of the latter—and the dark and savage masses hardly attempted to hide them—the troops and settlers responded harshly, as the Turkestan Governor-General, Adjutant General A. N. Kuropatkin, wrote in his diary:

Even during the suppression of unrest in the Jizzakh district, there were justified complaints against the troops for excessive destruction of native dwellings, looting, and unnecessary killings. The same is happening during operations in Semirechye. But these, I hope, are exceptions.

The situation of the Russian settlers was exacerbated by the mobilization of a significant portion of men to the front. And those who remained found themselves largely defenseless due to a mistake later acknowledged by A.N. Kuropatkin:

7500 Berdan rifles were taken from the Russian population for sending to the active army.

It's also worth noting: the ideological foundation of the uprising was the preaching of the Sufi dervishes, discussed in the aforementioned cycle. They persuaded the ignorant masses—the rebels were aptly called "mobs" in the documents—to view the nascent struggle as a holy war against "infidels," against whom moral restraints were lifted. A certain classic propaganda trope was also present: those who died for their faith would go to heaven.

Remarkably, losses among government troops were relatively small. The victims of the poorly armed mobs were mostly small groups of soldiers.

There were several cases of mass deaths of soldiers and officers, writes A. V. Ganin: in the Naryn district, a warrant officer with nine Cossacks and eight soldiers perished; in the village of Karkara in the Jarkent district, besieged by the Kyrgyz, according to data from August 16, 1916, 24 Cossacks of the detachment of the Narynkol-Charyn district commander, Captain M. Kravchenko, perished; and six Cossacks perished in the vicinity of Dzhalanash.

Below I will say a few words about the crisis of the empire's administrative apparatus, which became a kind of precursor to the revolution. However, in fairness, it should also be noted that the authorities took a number of smart steps that managed to prevent the uprising from spreading to other regions, particularly the perennially volatile Caucasus and the frontline Transcaucasus, located near the Ottoman Empire.

"Very few in Russia knew about this uprising," A. V. Ganin quotes one of his contemporaries as saying of those events, "since the government had taken measures to isolate the area where the uprising occurred from the rest of the empire. This was a brilliant success, and not only the masses in Russia but even representatives of the civil and military authorities were unaware of what was happening in Turkestan. If I hadn't witnessed these events, I would have considered it a miracle to tell about it."

From the point of view of the aforementioned researcher, the German-Turkish connection in the preparation of the uprising cannot be ruled out:

German-Turkish agents operated in the regions bordering Turkestan. In 1915-1916, a mission led by German captains O. von Niedermayer and V. O. von Hentig, along with several dozen officers, was in Afghanistan and Persia. On May 21, 1916, the intelligence officers left Kabul: Niedermayer headed for Persia and then on to Turkey, and Hentig to the Pamirs and China. German agents may have also been among the prisoners of war heading to Turkestan. The Germans seriously considered a military invasion through the Caspian Sea to Khiva and Bukhara and a rebellion in Turkestan, drawing on the tens of thousands of Austro-German prisoners of war held there.

Forerunners of the Basmachi


Apparently, the uprising was not fully suppressed, given the social base in Central Asia for the Basmachi movement that broke out in 1917 and lasted until the end of the Great Patriotic War.

In addition, some Kyrgyz fled to China, and after the February Revolution began to return, increasing social tensions – the killings of Kyrgyz by embittered settlers and vice versa did not stop, although they were not on a mass scale.

Now, regarding the administrative apparatus. I repeat, they deserve credit for their prompt and decisive actions to suppress the uprising and prevent it from spreading to other regions.

However, it should be noted that the administration failed to resolve the problem at the stage of its emergence, which was expressed in the proposal, after the pacification of the region, by A. N. Kuropatkin to create a district in the Issyk-Kul region in which strictly Russian settlers would live, outside the foreign environment.


Adjutant General A.N. Kuropatkin

It makes sense, but the implementation of such an idea should have been undertaken earlier, considering the need for mobilization measures against foreigners after the Great Retreat of 1915 and their possible reaction. It's not that it was unpredictable—after all, it wasn't long ago that A.N. Kuropatkin, among others, fought against foreigners.

Mostly illiterate and partly imbued with fanaticism, they, although briefly cut off from their usual way of life, inflamed by the propaganda of the dervishes, could not help but unleash their wrath on the “infidels.”

The administration's direct responsibility is to calculate steps to prevent anti-government protests, especially during a period when the state is straining its economic and military forces in the fight against an external enemy. Moreover, unlike during the time of Catherine the Great, the security services possessed the necessary resources to monitor public sentiment in the relatively recently annexed Turkestan.

The residents' memories of the independent Emirate of Bukhara and the Kokand and Khiva Khanates are still fresh. But they overlooked the uprising, and the previous policy toward non-Russians was somewhat clumsy.

Let's open A.N. Kuropatkin's diary again:

The root cause of the ease with which the Kyrgyz revolted lies deep within our land policy toward the Kyrgyz. For many years, the Kyrgyz were deprived of their nomadic and, most importantly, winter camps to create "free lands." When allocating land to the Kyrgyz during their transition to a sedentary lifestyle, the law only permitted arable land, but did not allocate land for grazing or haymaking.

Undoubtedly, the Governor-General is right when he notes:

The exhibition (that is, the mobilization - I.Kh.) of workers was the impetus, and the dissatisfaction of the Kyrgyz with the Russian regime had been growing for a long time.

I would like to point out that Alexei Nikolaevich's own career path is an example of the crisis in personnel policy in the Russian Empire, as he went to Turkestan after his unsuccessful command of the Northern Front troops during the Brusilov Offensive.

To be fair, during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877–1878, while serving as chief of staff in the 16th – Skobelev – infantry division, the future Minister of War showed his best side both in terms of personal bravery and in terms of the performance of his duties, which was noted by the “White General” himself.

It seems that A. N. Kuropatkin would have been right at home as chief of staff of a division, and perhaps even an army. Commanding troops during the Russo-Japanese War proved beyond his capabilities. Interestingly, the infamous commander was a man of humble origins and a talented man who simply climbed to the wrong level.

And this isn't his fault, but a crisis in the government's policies. Perhaps he should have been promoted not so much through military ranks as through administrative ones. After all, Alexei Nikolaevich knew Turkestan well, and the way of life and customs of its indigenous population, and if he had led it instead of commanding troops in Manchuria and during the First World War, he likely would have spared the region from the upheavals of 1916, preventing the rise of the Basmachi movement, which became a headache for the Soviet regime for many years.

A.N. Kuropatkin showed leniency towards the captured rebels, as reported to the Tsar:

Considering that the main culprits were the leaders and the natives, whose direct participation in the murder of Russian people had been proven, I considered it possible to mitigate the punishment for the dark mass of the guilty.

Of the 347 death sentences, Kuropatkin upheld 32. One can only hope that those pardoned returned to civilian life, rather than joining the ranks of the Basmachi a few years later and tainting themselves by murdering citizens of Soviet Russia.

To sum up, I would like to note that the civil war that soon broke out in Central Asia took on not so much a class character as an ethno-confessional one.

According to A. V. Ganin, the former settlers fought for the most part on the side of the Reds, while the Cossacks who suppressed the uprising and their Kyrgyz opponents this time found themselves on the same side of the barricades and joined the Whites.

History lessons: will they be learned?


Building a bridge from the past to our time and, perhaps, to the future, I will note: the unenlightened dark masses are always susceptible to various kinds of demagogic propaganda.

This is worth remembering when building relationships with the leadership of the Central Asian republics and helping them overcome the legacy of the 1990s, which manifested itself in the outflow of the educated Russian population.


Young Kyrgyz: will they receive a decent education, even a basic one, or will they remain illiterate and fall prey to the propaganda of the new Basmachi?

During the years mentioned, there was an increase in the number of semi-literate, and even completely illiterate citizens, the spread of fundamentalist sentiments, and a decline in culture – a culture that was a direct result of the beneficial influence of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union in the region.

To address problems in the spheres of education and culture, the leadership of the Central Asian republics and local historiography must abandon the tendentious and, at times, Russophobic view of the recent past of the peoples who lived under the shadow of the double-headed eagle, not to mention the Soviet period of their history.

References
Ganin A.V. Bloody Lessons of 1916. The 1916 Uprising in the Semirechye Region
From the diary of A.I. Kuropatkin
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  1. +2
    7 October 2025 04: 27
    It is a thankless task to seek “progressiveness” either in joining or in rebellion.

    The way of life changes. Sometimes subtly. Sometimes abruptly. Sometimes with bloodshed.

    And any theory can be created. Life will throw up facts over time.
    1. +3
      7 October 2025 08: 21
      The way of life changes. Sometimes subtly. Sometimes abruptly. Sometimes with bloodshed.

      The world order is constantly changing—it's not static. This is an axiom. And yet, the system of state and legal regulation and economic management, alas, always lags behind the challenges of new technological possibilities.
      Good morning, Seryozha!
      1. +7
        7 October 2025 08: 34
        Question to the Author The article is interesting. Thank you, but the following phrase bothered me a bit:
        The date was poorly chosen because it fell on summer cotton harvesting, in which part of the population subject to mobilization took part.

        Raw cotton in Central Asia is traditionally harvested not in summer, but in autumn.
        Manual harvesting of raw cotton begins when, on average, 2-3 bolls have opened on each plant. The harvest is carried out in several stages:
        The first harvest is when the plant has an average of three to four well-opened capsules.
        The second harvest completes the selection of raw cotton from well-opened bolls before the end of the cotton growing season.
        The third and fourth harvests are a selection of all the raw cotton remaining on the bushes.
        1. +6
          7 October 2025 08: 42
          And more question to the Author- Who are those rebels in the photo in your article? They're clearly not Asians.
          1. +2
            7 October 2025 09: 51
            Greetings, "clearly not Asians" - the author doesn't care whether they are Asian or not 😀
            Seriously, the author was probably hasty.
          2. +4
            7 October 2025 12: 31
            The photo shows Armenian fedayees, Armenian self-defense in the Ottoman Empire.
            The Armenian letters are legible on the flag.
            1. +2
              7 October 2025 13: 01
              In the photo are Armenian fidays

              You're right. Thanks for the clarification. The author should have been more careful.
      2. +1
        7 October 2025 11: 49
        Good morning, Dima!

        What kind of system is ideal now to keep up with technological developments?

        Clearly, there's no answer to this question. But respected young people are increasingly starting to use artificial intelligence. Sometimes, they forget about their own.
        1. +1
          7 October 2025 16: 51
          What kind of system is ideal now to keep up with technological developments?

          There's no such thing, Sergey, as a system, process, or way of life that's always perfect. Time itself constantly forces us to make adjustments to any previously established system. That's life—it doesn't stand still.
          It is clear that there is no answer to this question.

          Yes, in my opinion, you yourself have already given a comprehensive answer to this question above:
          The way of life doesn't stand still—it's constantly changing. Sometimes subtly. Sometimes abruptly. Sometimes bloodily. (c) good
  2. 10+
    7 October 2025 04: 57
    It's interesting of course, but this is it
    This is worth remembering when building relationships with the leadership of the Central Asian republics and helping them overcome the legacy of the 1990s, which manifested itself in the outflow of the educated Russian population.
    Do we need this? Why the hell do we need to help anyone again, to overcome anything? They haven't tried to live their own lives.
    They have returned to a primitive state, they like to be proud and independent, so let them go independently all the way from the tribal system, at least to feudalism, the beginnings of which they already have laughing
    Maintain contact with the elite, as buying them directly is much cheaper and more effective than trying to maintain the rudiments of civilization in the form of schools, hospitals, theaters, and so on throughout these tribes' territories. At the same time, they're trying to lure away the most rebellious and unneeded members of the population, trying to absorb them through sheer numbers. It's not working; there aren't enough indigenous people left to absorb uneducated radicals. They're more likely to turn cities into sprawling villages than to dissolve into civilization.
    1. +2
      7 October 2025 10: 01
      Evgeny, bravo. A true observation: "helping someone again."
      Enough, you've helped yourselves too much. We spent so much time drinking in the Baltics, but what about "socialism in Afghanistan"?
      There are not enough fingers to count the "help"
    2. 0
      7 October 2025 10: 25
      Quote: Evgeny64
      They have returned to a primitive state, they like to be proud and independent, so let them go independently all the way from the tribal system, at least to feudalism, the beginnings of which they already have


      I've noticed time and again how absurdly different eras are described. This stereotype about Russia coming to Central Asia and lifting people out of poverty, building factories, schools, and hospitals. Yet, it's completely forgotten what life was like in the Russian Empire at the time. Weren't there poor, hungry, and sick people? Was everyone literate? In the villages, in the countryside? Weren't minors married off? And what did in-laws do? And what about dresses and headscarves? It was the same in Central Asia as in the Russian Empire. The landowners and riches lived in luxury, while the peasants and dehkans (farmers) suffered. And the Soviet government modernized, industrialized, improved education, and improved healthcare in Central Asia, just as it was doing in the Russian Federation at the same time. They achieved everything together.
      And just as they tried back then, including through the "Basmachi" movement, to divide a zone of influence and gain geopolitical advantage, so now, having collapsed the USSR, the same efforts to reduce Russia's influence in Central Asia continue, or rather, have returned. And there's no point in complaining, insulting, or comforting ourselves with the idea that everything in Central Asia will collapse and people will return to a supposedly primitive state. This will help push Central Asia even further away from Russia. The power of the USSR lay in 15 republics.
  3. +2
    7 October 2025 05: 34
    It's just a parallel with the Great Patriotic War—no uprisings over mobilization, not for labor, but specifically for the front. Yes, the ethnic minorities weren't particularly effective there, but even filling the front lines was a benefit. Much like the Hungarians, or more likely the Romanians, under the Germans. Only under a unified command.
    This is a direct consequence of the policy of indigenization, which is so criticized by anti-Sovietists.
    Another side of the indigenization was the whitewashing of the "uprising" in 1916, but it is still balanced by the fight against the Basmachi later, and the "whites" who joined the Central Asian bandits.
    But the current policy of the current Russian leadership toward the "young states" of Central Asia is not even close to indigenization; it is an outright betrayal of Russia's interests. Not even within these countries, but within Russia itself...
    1. +8
      7 October 2025 08: 13
      The article is frankly weak. The topic is very relevant. It takes a lot of skill to talk about the 1916 uprising and not mention Amangeldy Imanov. Again, this is simply touching:
      At the same time, the Russian administration respected the traditions and customs of the indigenous population.
      This is about the beginning of the annexation, in the 60s. It was at this time that Saltykov-Shchedrin's article "Gentlemen of Tashkent" appeared, written about the Russian administration in the new lands, which differed significantly from the author's views.
    2. -2
      7 October 2025 10: 11
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Just a parallel with the Great Patriotic War - no uprisings regarding mobilization not for work, but specifically for the front.

      UK RSFSR 1926
      "Article 69. Evasion of military personnel from reporting for mobilization -
      imprisonment not less six months, with the proviso that the execution of the sentence is postponed until the end of military operations, and the convicted person is immediately handed over to the military authorities and that, depending on his behavior in the unit, the commander of the latter may file a petition before the relevant court for complete release from the social protection measure ordered by the court."

      The lower limit of the sanction is no less than 6 months, there is no upper limit, which allows it to be applied depending on the circumstances of the case, up to the maximum feel .
      By 1941, the Soviet regime had already corralled the Central Asians. And the Civil War—when they could simply drag them over the dunes and "Guided by revolutionary legal consciousness..."—wasn't that long ago either.
      1. 0
        7 October 2025 10: 30
        Quote: your1970
        UK RSFSR 1926

        RSFSR, which republic of Central Asia is this?

        Quote: your1970
        By 1941, the Soviet government had already brought the Central Asians into the stable.
        Exactly, but not thanks to repression, but thanks to the alliance between Bolsheviks from the Center/Russia and local cadres. That was the essence of korenizatsiya—pulling in locals. After all, the Gulag was only for Russians, right?
        1. -1
          7 October 2025 11: 44
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          RSFSR, which republic of Central Asia is this?

          You want me to find the Criminal Code of the Uzbek SSR for you? I will...
          I seriously doubt the penalty there would be "a fine of 3 rams and go for a walk." lol lol lol .....

          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          That's exactly it, but not thanks to repression, but thanks to reliance on the alliance of Bolsheviks from the Center/Russia and local cadres.

          Well, let there be a soldering - if that's what you want...
          There was a problem with the language, but that's not important for you - it's a "spika" after all.

          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          After all, the Gulag was only for Russians, right?
          - so
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          not thanks to repression,
          - What kind of GULAG could there be for Central Asians - if it is "NOT due to repressions", but purely on the basis of fusion...
          1. +1
            7 October 2025 12: 16
            Quote: your1970
            You want me to find the Criminal Code of the Uzbek SSR for you? I will...

            That would be nice. However, it's a sign to start a comment with a link to a third-party management company. laughing However, I have no doubt that in the laws of the Republic of Ingushetia, not only murder, but also rebellion was punished by the confiscation of sheep, but this did not prevent the ethnic minorities from committing massacres...

            Quote: your1970
            There was a problem with the language, but that's not important for you - it's a "spika" after all.
            Hello, it's the simplest thing—fusion—working with promising locals, especially like-minded individuals, training them in the right direction, and then winning the loyalty of the local illiterate and "unspeaking" masses. Especially by cultivating the media and truly improving their lives.
            The simplest thing...
            In 1916 and in 1942/43 the problems were the same, but the results were different...

            Quote: your1970
            - What kind of GULAG could there be for Central Asians - if it is "NOT due to repressions", but purely on the basis of fusion...
            Ah, so the Gulag wasn't racist after all; it welcomed everyone... If the Gulag was what held everything together, then why didn't they surrender Russia in 1941? After all, it was still unknown at that time that the Nazis were Nazis; until 1942, they were civilized Germans...
            1. -1
              7 October 2025 21: 12
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              However, it is an indicator to start a comment with a link to a third-party management company.

              I was completely puzzled and started looking.
              The Criminal Code of the RSFSR was in force before the war. Kazakh, Kyrgyz, In the Baltic States and the Karelo-Finnish Republic. In the Uzbek SSR, the Criminal Code of the RSFSR ceased to be in effect in 1930 with the adoption of its own. In the Tajik SSR, the Criminal Code of the Uzbek SSR remained in effect until 1935.
              I'm short on lyrics - I couldn't find it. Alas...
              I'll keep looking - it's intriguing...

              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Hello, this is the simplest thing - The soldering is working with local promising and especially like-minded personnel, training them in the right way, and then bringing the local illiterate and "language-less" masses to loyalty.

              Hello, for your "fusion" you need at least five people who know Russian—and these are, surprisingly, "former" and "traders." And even if the shepherd is three times as inclined as you are, you won't get very drunk with him. lol ...
              Moreover, in the 1970s and 80s, the Central Asian region, after Soviet schools, was full of Central Asians who spoke and understood Russian poorly. "Spike" in the 1920s and 30s, yeah.
              And the Russians - historically - did not learn local languages ​​or taught them at the level of “Barm cartridges??!! Yokma, Vasily Ivanovich...” (c)

              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              In 1916 and in 1942/43 the problems were the same, but the results were different...
              - I repeat, breastfeeding has swept across Central Asia quite extensively. 10 years of breastfeeding effectively clears the mind - "You sit quietly, live poorly, smile at everyone" (c)

              A living example of educational repression: China and Tiananmen, the USSR and Vasilievsky Spusk with its miners. Some did a little shooting and became the world's leading economy, while the others have been non-existent for 35 years.
              1. 0
                8 October 2025 09: 13
                Quote: your1970
                I was completely puzzled and started looking.

                Of course you can, but why bother? You'd better first find out where in the Criminal Code of the Republic of Ingushetia there's an option to buy off rebels and murderers with sheep. You think that only the severity of the criminal punishment prevented rebellion.
                Quote: your1970
                I seriously doubt the penalty there would be "a fine of 3 rams and go for a walk."


                Quote: your1970

                Hello, for your "fusion" you need at least five people who know Russian—and these are, surprisingly, "former" and "traders." And even if the shepherd is three times as inclined as you are, you won't get very drunk with him.
                I am once again convinced that you do not know and do not understand the simplest, everyday things... To imagine that among tens of thousands of Russians and hundreds of thousands, millions of locals, there are not even those more or less capable of understanding the local Russian language... Well, okay, but not understanding that there were phrasebooks and dictionaries, that is your case.

                https://e-history.kz/ru/news/show/339394?ysclid=mghkhivxt6526199490


                In February 1921, they captured four Komsomol members in the village of Tash-Kurgan—Mirhamid Mirabidov, Abduvakhid Uvaisov, Jalalitdin Uvaisov, and Salidzhan Umarov. Three of them were burned alive.


                The brutal massacre of Komsomol members in the village of Tash-Kurgan intensified hatred of the Basmachi among the population, and the peasant farmers' activity and organization increased. Self-defense units grew, recruiting volunteers. By the end of March 1921, three volunteer companies totaling 550 men had been formed in Kokand, and a detachment of 100 communists and Komsomol members had been organized in Kanibadam. Volunteer units were also formed in Isfara (62 communists and 63 Komsomol members), and in Markhamat and Besharik (117 communists and 200 Komsomol members).

                The Turkestan Front command sent units of the 3rd Turkestan Division to the Fergana Valley. By the summer of 1921, the 9th Cavalry and 8th Rifle Brigades, the 15th, 16th, 17th, and 19th Cavalry Regiments, and the 26th Aviation Detachment had arrived. This significantly intensified the offensive.

                Or maybe there weren't five people here who knew Russian either?!

                What you write about the late hours only suggests that the villagers lived in their own world, just like they do now. But now they're dragging their village to Russia, whereas back then they were taking at least a bit of civilization back to their village. And the city dwellers were more or less civilized.

                Quote: your1970
                - I repeat, breastfeeding has swept across Central Asia quite extensively. 10 years of breastfeeding effectively clears the mind - "You sit quietly, live poorly, smile at everyone" (c)

                No, there was virtually no civil war, as in Russia in Central Asia. It wasn't necessary. The resistance of the bais and "adherents" was quickly suppressed. There was terror, raids by the "former" bais, quietly instigated by the mullahs. But the bais' mass support quickly waned, and accordingly, there were no mass purges. Therefore, to believe that the peasants didn't rebel because they were intimidated is a fallacy, and to imagine that the youth didn't rebel during mobilization because they had been intimidated earlier is simply foolish.
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                  8 October 2025 12: 20
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  You'd better first find where in the Criminal Code of the Republic of Ingushetia there's an option to buy off rebels and murderers with sheep. You think that only the severity of the criminal punishment prevented rebellion.

                  In the Nikolaevsky and Novouzensky districts of the Samara province in the Republic of Ingushetia there were 2 gendarmes (conditional FSB officers) and as many as 9 police officers for 2 districts - throughout the Saratov Trans-Volga region and part of the Samara region.
                  This is about 3/4 of Turkey belay by area
                  Who the hell could they have caught????

                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Well, okay, but not understanding that there were phrasebooks and dictionaries is your case.
                  Please tell me what language the phrasebooks in Kazakhstan were written in, given that the population barely knew Arabic and the Cyrillic alphabet was introduced in 1940?


                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Or maybe there weren't five people here who knew Russian either?!

                  In total, there are as many as 1000 (one thousand!!!) people out of 4.4 million belay population of Uzbekistan.


                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  There was terror, raids by "former" people, quietly instigated by the mullahs. But the bais' mass support quickly disappeared.
                  That's why they kept chewing over the Basmachi until 1934.
                  I repeat - for those who don’t understand simple everyday things - when there are evil people walking around with weapons -
                  Quote: your1970
                  "You sit quietly, live poorly, and smile at everyone." (c)
                  Works at all times in all countries.

                  And yes, if we follow your logic.
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  very quickly suppressed the resistance of the bais and "adherents", there was terror by raids of the "former" with the quiet instigation of the mullahs. But mass support the bais quickly disappeared,

                  - then it turns out that there was massive support for the Banderites in Ukraine - since they were persecuted for 12 years...
                  You already decide - in the absence or presence of support - Are bandits running out quickly?
      2. 0
        8 October 2025 12: 49
        The lower limit of the sanction is no less than 6 months, there is no upper limit, which allows it to be applied depending on the circumstances of the case, up to the maximum

        or maybe there is no upper limit because “the execution of the sentence is postponed until the end of military operations, and the convicted person is immediately handed over to the military authorities and that, depending on his behavior in the unit, the head of the latter may file a petition before the relevant court for complete release from the social protection measure ordered by the court."
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          8 October 2025 16: 37
          Quote: A vile skeptic
          The lower limit of the sanction is no less than 6 months, there is no upper limit, which allows it to be applied depending on the circumstances of the case, up to the maximum

          or maybe there is no upper limit because “the execution of the sentence is postponed until the end of military operations, and the convicted person is immediately handed over to the military authorities and that, depending on his behavior in the unit, the head of the latter may file a petition before the relevant court for complete release from the social protection measure ordered by the court."

          It might be aroused, or it might not. The situations could have been completely opposite – some didn't run, while others, like one Caucasian people, completely avoided mobilization.
          Remember the wars between the "decent prisoners" and the "bitches" after the war? There were a lot of them there—those with deferred sentences.
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  4. +2
    7 October 2025 05: 58
    The author gives advice of "cosmic proportions" to the leadership of the Central Asian republics... Well, sort of, yes, republics, but in reality, independent states. But how do we understand the fact that Russophobia in the Russian Federation is already reaching the state level? There's an organized vilification of a Russian general—"a wicked scoundrel," etc.—and much more dirt has been spilled... And everyone is silent—VVP, the formidable DAM, and the pro-government media. Everyone has fallen silent. And the author is somewhere talking about some kind of Russophobia. sad
  5. -12
    7 October 2025 06: 15
    What's there to be outraged about? All the enemies of the USSR who seized the republics of the USSR are the same. They have all proven themselves to be bitter enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, and they justify the crimes of their external and internal enemies, praise them, and erect monuments to them. And they have all proven that they hate the centuries-old history of the Russian State.
  6. 0
    7 October 2025 06: 25
    I want to ask the representatives of Central Asia, where would your countries be and would you have statehood if it weren't for the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR, and Russia? What do you say?
    1. +1
      7 October 2025 07: 46
      Where would you be? We were in Afghanistan.
    2. -1
      7 October 2025 08: 35
      I understand that the USSR provided free education, medicine, and housing.
      And what did the Russian Empire give?
      The cruelty of the local population. The Russian Empire, while conquering other territories, did not exterminate other nationalities.
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        7 October 2025 10: 12
        "They didn't destroy other nationalities" that's for sure.
        We didn't shoot sepoys with cannons.
        Well, Brita is a master at this sort of thing. And the most interesting thing is that it's "white and fluffy."
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          7 October 2025 10: 17
          But the heads of Circassians were collected and expelled from their land. I can give examples.
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            10 October 2025 07: 08
            Thank you. No need. I know about these cases.
      2. +1
        7 October 2025 13: 53
        Quote: dimon642
        And what did the Russian Empire give?

        At least the slave trade ended. Internal conflicts ceased. The region began to develop peacefully.
  7. -1
    7 October 2025 06: 31
    It would be very useful if the author took the trouble to derive a general equation for the Basmachi/Bendera movement on the wild outskirts of the Empire, taking into account the interests of the native elites and the activity coefficient of the British.
    1. +3
      7 October 2025 07: 10
      The causes of Rome's fall are still debated. Even a hypothetical attempt to derive the requested formula would prove so convoluted that the model would be ineffective.
  8. +8
    7 October 2025 07: 23
    A theater begins with a coat rack, and an article with a preface. This article itself begins with a gross error. The article's topic is Central Asia, and the photo shows Armenian armed forces, the Dashnaks.
    This is the level of the author's competence.
  9. +5
    7 October 2025 08: 29
    Anyone who served in the Soviet Army remembers that soldiers from Central Asia and the Caucasus perceive kindness exclusively as weakness.
    We must take this into account when building relationships with them.
    1. -2
      7 October 2025 10: 21
      So, in your comment, you're talking about the time when these Russians were already trained to relieve themselves by taking off their pants and sitting down. But in the article, the author is talking about the time when these Russians hadn't yet been trained to do this.
    2. +1
      7 October 2025 20: 20
      Colleague Vlad, you're absolutely right. I live in the North Caucasus and see this all the time.
  10. 0
    7 October 2025 10: 17
    The civil war that soon broke out in Central Asia took on not so much a class character as an ethno-confessional one.

    Not quite so: initially it was the Russians who were cutting each other down, and not even based on class: in Tashkent, the railway workers fought with the Provisional Government units, and in Ashgabat, Krasnovodsk, Mervi, etc., the same railway workers had already... destroyed the Bolsheviks, and quite successfully.
    26 Baku commissars were destroyed by the Russian Transcaspian government, where Turkmen-Russian officers were in the minority.

    Russia's policy was the most correct: by resettling excess Russian peasants from native Russia, it made the outskirts more and more Russian.

    The Soviet policy proved disastrous for Russia: central Russia was losing its population and aging, while the outskirts were pumped full of Russian resources, creating national Russophobic states with rabid demographics.
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      7 October 2025 13: 46
      Quote: Olgovich
      The Soviet policy proved disastrous for Russia.

      Well, here we can recall the assignments that were issued after graduating from technical school or institute—to various regions of the country. In total, by the time of the collapse of the USSR, more than 10 million Russians/Ukrainians/Belarusians lived in the region.
      By the way, I was watching a chronicle of the collapse (89-91) in Central Asia—even the local population in the cities looked intelligent—mustaches, suits, everything as it should be. So culture was developing. I think it might well have reached even the villages within another 30 years.
      1. -2
        8 October 2025 10: 48
        Quote: Trapper7
        So the culture evolved.

        Does nationalist culture exist? It was precisely the nationalists who were nurtured by the Soviet regime—the elite, the intelligentsia—where Russians became hostages and had no say in the matter.
  11. +2
    7 October 2025 10: 29
    Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan are the main importers of cotton cellulose for Russian gunpowder factories, which is why Russia has such a lenient policy towards them.
  12. -1
    7 October 2025 13: 39
    Yeah, considering the pay and the allowance, they could have gotten by without mobilization. Just put out the word, "If you want to earn money, ask me how," and people would have flocked to dig trenches. They'd have even brought their tools.
  13. +1
    7 October 2025 20: 09
    Colleagues, good afternoon "on the administrative line." Kuropatkin himself considered himself a military man.
  14. 0
    7 October 2025 23: 59
    Was that really the title of Nicholas II's decree or edict? Was the term "Kazakhstan" used back then?
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  16. 0
    12 October 2025 03: 46
    The natives must idolize the Russian Empire, the USSR, and Russia!