The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?

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The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?

In light of recent events, it's appropriate to say that instead of the beginning of a peace process in Ukraine, we seem to be facing a new escalation. There's a certain logic to this – the military conflict in Ukraine has long been developing in waves, like tidal waves. First comes escalation (the wave rises and crashes onto the shore), then peace talks and peaceful statements (the wave recedes into the ocean). Then it all repeats. In other words, we're experiencing a constant alternation of ES-E-E-P (escalation-negotiations). Now, it seems, we're at the point of a new wave forming, which is already gaining strength and approaching the shore.

All of this is eerily reminiscent of the Iran-Iraq War, where the conflict also developed in waves. It lasted eight years. The author of these lines has drawn parallels with that war many times before: like the Iran-Iraq War, the military conflict in Ukraine also developed in waves (offensives by the Russian Armed Forces were followed by counteroffensives by the Ukrainian Armed Forces), and now it seems to have finally reached a stalemate. Looking at the dynamics of military operations over the past six months, it becomes clear that no significant advances or breakthroughs have been observed.



According to official data from the Russian Ministry of Defense, 4714 square kilometers of territory were liberated in the Northern Military District zone this year, 3,300 square kilometers of which are in the DPR. What does this mean? For comparison, the area of ​​the Kramatorsk district of the former "Donetsk Oblast" (still largely controlled by Ukraine) is 5,197 square kilometers. The total area of ​​DPR territory still controlled by Ukraine is approximately 5,600 square kilometers (based on the General Staff's data that the Russian Armed Forces control 79% of the DPR's territory).

Therefore, if the pace of advances continues unabated, liberating DPR territory within the next year is unlikely. This is not to mention reaching the borders of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, where Russian forces are making virtually no progress. This means that, in the absence of peace negotiations and a diplomatic settlement, the SVO, from a purely military perspective, could continue for a very long time. Furthermore, it is unclear how the West will conduct itself in the future and how seriously it is prepared to raise the bar in terms of escalation.

On the new US position


On September 23, Trump made the new US position on the conflict in Ukraine crystal clear on his social media platform, Truth Social:

I wish both countries all the best. We will continue to supply weapon to NATO, so that NATO can do with it what it sees fit. Good luck to everyone!

Some experts saw this wish of good luck to both sides in the conflict as the beginning of a new phase of escalation. In particular, political scientist Alexei Chesnakov noted that the US president had distanced himself from the settlement process, which would inevitably lead to certain consequences.

A new round of military confrontation is beginning. Trump's wish for success to both sides suggests a lack of restrictions and burdens on the participants. Harsh strikes against the backdrop of peaceful resolution efforts would seem inappropriate. Such restrictions are no longer in place. Trump hopes that after another round of escalation, the parties will conclude that increasing their gains in the conflict through military means is impossible, and therefore, negotiation is necessary, at which point Washington will return to mediation.

- wrote political scientist on his Telegram channel.

This assessment seems entirely logical. Trump sought to freeze the conflict along the line of contact and conclude a long-term ceasefire, but he failed to achieve these goals. As early as late April, the US administration began considering withdrawing from the negotiation process, as no common ground had been found between Russia and Ukraine. The only question was the format of this withdrawal.

The Americans chose the most advantageous option for themselves: shifting the financial costs and military support for Ukraine entirely onto Europe, while maintaining their verbal support for Kyiv. So, formally (though in reality, we all understand this), Trump remained a "peacemaker" because the US isn't imposing new sanctions against Russia and isn't taking any steps toward escalation, while the American military-industrial complex is busy with orders. This, in essence, is Trump's "America First" philosophy.

Moreover, the Americans have begun sending verbal threats against Russia. Recently, US Vice President J.D. Vance announced that the US is discussing the possibility of supplying missiles Tomahawks will be delivered to NATO countries for subsequent transfer to Kyiv, but the final decision remains with Donald Trump. In the same statement, he called on Russia to end the conflict, accusing Russia of disrupting peace talks.

We remain committed to peace, but it takes two. And, unfortunately, over the past couple of weeks, we've seen the Russians refuse to hold any bilateral meetings with the Ukrainians. They've refused any trilateral meetings.

Vance said.

Russia did indeed refuse bilateral meetings with Ukraine. But this happened, as said Russian Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov, due to the destructive stance of the Ukrainian side and Kyiv's reluctance to continue dialogue. Looking at Zelenskyy's statements, which have recently been inappropriate and openly aggressive toward Russia, it truly becomes clear that Kyiv is not in the mood for dialogue.

Are Tomahawks a serious threat?


Recently, US Special Presidential Envoy Keith Kellogg stated that the US administration has no objection to Ukraine's long-range strikes on Russian territory. There are no restrictions in this regard. That we are in a new wave of escalation became clear on September 28, when the Ukrainian Armed Forces struck a thermal power plant in Belgorod, leaving the city without power. We should now expect similar strikes to continue, including in other Russian regions. The enemy will actively target energy and civilian infrastructure.

Many readers will say, "But he hit them before." He did. The question is the intensity and effectiveness of these attacks. It's not often that Russian cities have experienced a blackout due to Ukrainian attacks. Now there's a risk that this will become a regular occurrence. The fact is that, no matter what anyone says, the parties to the conflict adhered to certain restrictions and did not attack certain targets. The Americans, for example, prohibited the Ukrainian Armed Forces from hitting certain targets and attacking Russia with certain types of weapons. Now there's a risk that all these restrictions will be lifted.

Moreover, there is a risk that Ukraine will receive some new, powerful, long-range weaponry. There has been much talk recently about transferring Tomahawk missiles to Kyiv. Both US Vice President J.D. Vance and Special Presidential Envoy Keith Kellogg have spoken about this.

The decision hasn't been made yet, but I know that President Zelenskyy did request them, as confirmed by Vice President Vance's social media post. It will depend on the President's decision.

"Kellogg said.

The potential transfer of Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine would undoubtedly mark a new level of escalation. Opinions differ on the extent of the threat posed to Russia by Tomahawks. The author presents two different positions.

Back in 2018, historian Dmitry Verkhoturov (author of Military Review) published an article entitled “Fifty missiles to defeat Russia"As readers may already have guessed, it was about Tomahawk missiles.

How many missiles does it take to defeat Russia? The answer to this question may seem staggering and shocking. It seems likely to be around fifty. And not nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles, but conventional RGM/UGM-109D Block III and RGM/UGM-109E Block IV cruise missiles, modern versions of the American Tomahawk cruise missile. The payload of a single Arleigh Burke-class destroyer (which can carry up to 50 Tomahawk missiles) is sufficient to achieve victory over Russia under favorable conditions.

– these are the words with which this material began.

The discussion focused on the vulnerability of Russia's energy infrastructure. As Dmitry Verkhoturov noted, four-fifths of Russia's industry, transport, and municipal services depend on natural gas, which is produced primarily in Yamal and transmitted through the main gas pipeline system to consumers and for export. If the main gas pipelines were cut in just three places, it would be possible to almost completely cut off the European part of Russia, where the bulk of the population and the bulk of industry, including military, are located, from gas. And, consequently, from electricity, heat, and raw materials. With corresponding consequences.

To be fair, it should be noted that any country has some weak spot. Nevertheless, this point of view certainly deserves attention. But there are other points of view.

In July of this year, another author of the Military Review, Roman Skomorokhov, published an article under the title “Tomahawk – a new problem or not?? " It noted both the strengths and weaknesses of the Tomahawks and the possible threats to Russia.

The Tomahawk's weakest point is its speed. 800 km/h is very slow these days. While en route, when the missile follows the INS and maps, intercepting it by an aircraft is more than easy. Considering the Tomahawk's inability to maneuver under high G-forces, it's an easy target. Shooting down a Tomahawk throughout its entire trajectory is no longer a major challenge for any air defense system in service with the Russian Armed Forces... The Tomahawk's trump card is its widespread use. Indeed, today, overloading the system is no longer an innovative technique, but rather a classic one. Defense using older weapons or a mass attack dronesBut this method is good for everything today, and it's especially effective in a combined attack, when drones, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles are used simultaneously. That's when even a good air defense system is very difficult to defend against.


Economic and political consequences of the new escalation


Regardless, delaying the SVO will inevitably lead to economic and political consequences. We are already experiencing some of these consequences—dozens of regions are facing gasoline shortages and rising prices. According to Rosstat, gasoline prices at gas stations have increased by 8,36% since the beginning of the year, almost twice the inflation rate for the same period (4,16%).

The fuel crisis is caused by Ukrainian drone attacks on oil refining infrastructure, which continue almost daily. The Ryazan, Novokuibyshevsk, Syzran, Volgograd, and Afip refineries have been repeatedly hit. Experts estimate that up to 20% of their capacity has been disabled.

As a result, due to unscheduled repairs at major refineries, difficulties with delivering it to the regions, and the excitement on the domestic market, fuel prices began to rise. notes Alexey Zubets, Director of the Center for Social Economic Research, told MK that if retail gasoline prices continue to rise, especially in regions without their own refineries, this will add one to two percentage points to the overall inflation rate. Consumer goods will rise in price primarily in the provinces, where suppliers are incomparably fewer than in the capital and other large cities.

Here, we again encounter the vulnerability of Russia's energy infrastructure, mentioned above. As political scientist Igor Dimitriev notes:

A map of Russian oil refineries reveals a key strategic problem: the main refining capacity is concentrated in the European part of the country, while fuel consumption is growing in the Far East. Fuel supply chains to the eastern regions stretch for thousands of kilometers, creating additional costs and risks.

A possible new round of escalation will create new threats – new infrastructure facilities that have not previously been targeted could be targeted. The scope of the conflict will likely expand, and with it, the risks. By attacking energy infrastructure facilities, the goal of Ukraine and its handlers is clear: to increase the economic cost of the SVO in order to make Moscow more accommodating on certain issues.

Of course, Russia will respond to attacks on its infrastructure with similar attacks on Ukraine, but in this regard, it is less vulnerable, since virtually its entire economy relies on foreign aid. Protecting all the oil refineries from Kaliningrad to the Far East is simply impossible.

What Moscow is ultimately doing and will do is quite clear. the blogger wrote "Atomic Cherry", which the author will allow himself to quote.

The Russian authorities have adopted a policy of reducing the consumer economy and "freezing" the economy as such, which is apt to recall the well-worn saying: "When a wolf falls into a trap, it chews off its own paw to survive." Rising fuel prices, increasing recycling fees, expanding the fine base, plans to shorten the workweek, increasing VAT and the tax burden on small and medium-sized businesses—all of these measures must be viewed as a comprehensive set of measures. These measures are designed to reduce consumption, ease the burden on infrastructure, the import structure, and the overall movement of funds and resources within Russia. Thus, by reducing the consumer economy, the government is "diverting" labor to areas it needs—while simultaneously eliminating potential military and economic risks by effectively manually controlling the country's resource distribution system.

I remember how “consumerism” used to be condemned online (and elsewhere) – now, apparently, it will be reduced.

Certain political steps should be viewed from this perspective—strengthening control in the digital sphere, or more precisely, strengthening control over the internet (banning foreign social networks, prohibiting searches for extremist information, restricting calls on foreign messaging apps, etc.). This isn't just because the government is seeking to rid itself of any foreign influence and completely control public opinion (that's one reason). The internet is also a platform for making money, which the state doesn't control. And given the trend toward declining consumption, attempts are being made to bring this platform under control whenever possible.

As the NWO drags on, all of the above trends will intensify, since in the context of confrontation with the West (primarily with Europe, which is openly preparing for escalation) and the absence of real allies, the Russian authorities see no alternative.

Conclusion


All of the above may sound somewhat bleak, but these are the realities of Russia's situation. Russia failed to achieve a quick victory over the Ukrainian army, and the conflict has become protracted and unfolding in waves. As the conflict drags on and escalates, the risk of the situation escalating into a global war with Europe increases.
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  1. 20+
    2 October 2025 04: 11
    As the NWO drags on and escalation increases, the risks of the situation escalating into a global war with Europe also increase.
    And Europe is preparing for this!
    1. +1
      2 October 2025 07: 52
      All these forecasts seem more than bleak. A certain eeriness is palpable in the picture described.
      But... let's try to be optimistic.
      Maybe the leadership will find a way to accelerate our victories. Maybe...
      1. -18
        2 October 2025 09: 17
        All these forecasts seem more than bleak. A certain eeriness is palpable in the picture described.

        Russia, represented by its supreme leader, is distinguished by excessive, but not unlimited, patience. If, however, gas and electricity lines and stations are not necessarily damaged, then this poses an existential threat to the country's existence. What next? It's clear as day that nuclear strikes on Ukraine will follow, possibly even the destruction of Kyiv. Of course, the population will be warned. In my opinion, test single-use warning nuclear strikes should already be carried out against military installations in western Ukraine. The Yavoriv military training ground and Starokostiantynivsky airfield are ideal targets for demonstrative, powerful ground nuclear strikes with an easterly wind. The main thing here is not to oversleep. Don't wait for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to inflict significant destruction in our rear.
        1. +9
          2 October 2025 10: 15
          When you say Ukrainians are susceptible to propaganda, don't you think about yourselves? What kind of patience are you talking about? Business has gone global. First COVID, now this. They'll find something to replace it, everything will stop instantly, and something else will take over.
          1. 11+
            2 October 2025 11: 08
            Business has gone global

            What kind of business? What kind of global one? Mainly oil and gas, ore, coal. Dig it, sell it, eat it, roll it, waste it, drink it. That's our business. Well, we also shit on the country in the process. Do we need a business like that? We need to slowly wind down this kind of business.
            1. +1
              2 October 2025 11: 16
              You don't know how much money has been made from Covid, let alone anything else.
              But other people can round things off, but the current ones don’t want to.
              1. +5
                2 October 2025 16: 08
                Quote: Gardamir
                You don't know how much money has been made from Covid, let alone anything else.

                Well, something else is known approximately...
                https://lenta.ru/news/2025/10/01/rossiyskie-milliardery-stali-esche-bogache/?ysclid=mg9fht37tw885305596
                Since the beginning of 2025, the combined wealth of Russia's richest businessmen has increased by almost $20 billion.

                That's just under 2 trillion rubles. The budget deficit, as a reminder, is 4,8 trillion rubles. But this will be made up for by increasing VAT, recycling fees, and other perks.
                1. +1
                  2 October 2025 17: 47
                  It's not cash, but rather the value of assets. Say you own a building worth a billion rubles, a year passes, and its price has dropped to 1,1 square meters. But there's no cash left. So your net worth has grown, but your cash hasn't increased... And the budget needs cash. You're not proposing to simply take away people's property, even rich ones, because of a budget deficit. That's just the way the world works. Pay your taxes—that's it, you're free. But our oligarchs pay taxes. It's cheaper and safer that way.
                  1. +1
                    3 October 2025 10: 32
                    Quote: Glagol1
                    It's not cash, but rather the value of assets. Say you own a building worth a billion rubles, a year passes, and its value has dropped to 1,1 square meters. But there's no cash.

                    Yes, yes, yes, it's all in the case, it's all in the case... No need to tell the tale. There's plenty of cash there too, though it's in circulation, PERSONALLY, and being funneled out to the West.
                    Quote: Glagol1
                    Pay your taxes – that's it, you're free. But our oligarchs pay taxes.

                    Yes, yes, 3% mineral extraction tax and THAT'S IT!!! Plus the cost of maintaining pumps and pipes. The rest goes into personal pockets. And the funniest thing is, the Russian population pays this mineral extraction tax on all resources sold domestically. But for export, the mineral extraction tax comes from the oligarch's profits.
                    VAT was raised by 2%. So why the hell didn't they raise the mineral extraction tax?
                    Quote: Glagol1
                    It's cheaper and more peaceful this way.

                    Cheaper for the oligarchs, of course! Peace of mind, well, yeah, until the next 1917.
                    1. -1
                      6 October 2025 22: 00
                      Quote: Zoer
                      Calmer, well yes, until the next 1917.

                      Which territories will you declare "excessive": Siberia, the Caucasus, or the Far East?
                      1. +1
                        7 October 2025 09: 02
                        Quote: Alexey Sedykin
                        Which territories will you declare "excessive": Siberia, the Caucasus, or the Far East?

                        Are you sure you understand what this is all about and what your question is about? What do taxes, nationalization, and excess territories have to do with it? fool Are you a troll?
            2. +7
              2 October 2025 16: 02
              Quote: Alexey Lantukh
              Mainly oil and gas, ore, coal. Dug it up, sold it, ate it, rolled it, wasted it, drank it away. That's our business. Well, we also shit on the country in the process. Do we need a business like that? We need to slowly wind down this kind of business.

              But who's asking us what we need there? In fact, we're slowly winding down. So much so that Rosstat has classified demographic data. Meanwhile, the oligarchs are only getting richer. Are they fools enough to cut off the branch they're sitting on and launch nuclear bombs, especially near NATO countries? Our entire elite still has their money and families THERE. And that's the main reason for this whole mess...
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        2. +5
          2 October 2025 10: 40
          Quote: Alexey Lantukh
          Even the horse knows that nuclear strikes on Ukraine are coming next, with the possible destruction of even Kyiv.

          I'm amazed by the short-sightedness of those who advocate tactical nuclear weapons. Isn't it clear that if these weapons were used, even against Ukraine, we would become a "legitimate" target for a preemptive nuclear strike by all of NATO? I think they've long since developed this strategy, their targets have been defined, and all that's left is to "push the button."
          1. +5
            2 October 2025 10: 49
            Isn't it clear that if these weapons are used even against Ukraine, we will become a "legitimate" target for a preemptive nuclear strike by all of NATO?

            You understand that. But I don't think anyone will fire a single nuclear warhead at Russia for Ukraine's sake. Ukraine isn't a NATO member. And a shirt closes the neck. They're not about to part with Paris and London. And Russia has no intention of firing nuclear warheads at NATO first. That's absolutely clear.
            1. +4
              2 October 2025 10: 52
              Quote: Alexey Lantukh
              Russia has no intention of launching nuclear warheads at NATO. That much is clear.

              Of course. And for them too. But our counterattack might not work, or it might turn out completely different than we'd like.
              1. 0
                2 October 2025 11: 01
                If one of the five nuclear missiles hits Paris, it will be a real disaster.
                1. 11+
                  2 October 2025 11: 02
                  Quote: Alexey Lantukh
                  If one of the five nuclear missiles hits Paris, it will be a real disaster.

                  Are you ready to destroy your country for one warhead in Paris?
                  1. +8
                    2 October 2025 11: 13
                    Are you ready to destroy your country for one warhead in Paris?

                    France or cunning London will fire nuclear missiles at Russia for Ukraine's sake, only to receive a nuclear response, despite Russia's significant nuclear superiority. Even the US is afraid. Something's wrong with you.
                    1. 0
                      3 October 2025 00: 27
                      Indeed, in response to tomahawk strikes, we need to test the enemy's mettle by launching a nuclear attack on Ukraine. NATO will likely not respond, although it will increase aid to Ukraine. However, India, China, and some others might turn their backs on Russia. A nuclear strike will definitely solve the problem of bridges across the Dnieper, and other issues.
                      1. -1
                        3 October 2025 15: 49
                        Only India, China and some others may “turn away” from Russia.

                        How do we know they'll turn away? They never said anything like that. Worse, they themselves—the nuclear powers—will already have an example of using nuclear weapons. Israel razed Gaza, it looked like the aftermath of a nuclear explosion, and nothingOf course, we shouldn't fire at residential areas, but exclusively at military and infrastructure facilities. Of course, there will be collateral damage, but if we continue fighting for another five years, the total heavy losses on both sides will rise to a million, and the economy will be ruined, along with the population's well-being.
                2. +5
                  2 October 2025 11: 17
                  The deputies are relaxing in Paris. The children of current ministers, and you want to give them a dressing down?
                3. +5
                  2 October 2025 15: 51
                  Quote: Alexey Lantukh
                  If one of the five nuclear missiles hits Paris, it will be a real disaster.

                  And if all five of the five nuclear missiles hit Moscow, then what!?
              2. 0
                2 October 2025 16: 15
                Quote: Adrey
                But we might not be able to mount a counterattack, or it might not turn out as we would like.

                Without the US, this won't happen. European nuclear weapons simply won't be enough to destroy all of our strategic nuclear forces, tactical nuclear weapons, and moreover, all of our own.
                1. -3
                  2 October 2025 16: 25
                  Quote: Zoer
                  There simply won’t be enough European nuclear weapons to destroy all of our strategic nuclear forces, tactical nuclear weapons, and moreover.

                  It's clear
                  Quote: Zoer
                  Without the USA this won't happen.

                  Why should this happen without the US? They'll be at the forefront. "Peacekeepers"...
                  1. 0
                    3 October 2025 10: 20
                    Quote: Adrey
                    Why should this happen without the US? They'll be at the forefront. "Peacekeepers"...

                    WHY does the US need this? They need to repeat the WWII scenario, when Europe was burning, and they were supplying weapons. They didn't want to get caught in the meat grinder themselves. Now, if they do, they'll get it just like everyone else, because ICBMs fly very far and fast.
                    And with the arrival of Trump, all their piscier enthusiasm suddenly vanished, replaced by attempts at constructive dialogue with Russia. Trump's main headache is China. And all the Trump-Putin negotiations weren't about...Ukrainey, and around China.
              3. +1
                2 October 2025 19: 48
                Or maybe it will work, who knows. And the assessment of this risk is in no way connected to the potential consequences of a strike on Ukrainian territory.
                1. +1
                  2 October 2025 20: 02
                  Quote: NordOst16
                  Maybe and it will work out

                  "Maybe" is not an evaluation criterion in this case.
                  1. 0
                    2 October 2025 22: 41
                    I believe this is the key criterion for nuclear deterrence. And the lack of a retaliatory strike undermines this deterrence. And if "the whole world hasn't been blown to smithereens" yet, then all sides have high expectations of their opponents' capabilities.
            2. -3
              2 October 2025 11: 08
              The charges will be released not for Ukraine's sake, but to further terrorize Russia.
            3. +8
              2 October 2025 11: 22
              Quote: Alexey Lantukh
              They have no intention of leaving Paris and London.

              Are ours getting ready? :)))
              They have relatives there, their children are studying, and their property was acquired with honestly stolen money!
            4. -4
              2 October 2025 12: 12
              I think you should see a psychiatrist, the way you think is really scary.
              1. +1
                3 October 2025 16: 00
                I think you should see a psychiatrist, the way you think is really scary.

                And what is more terrible and important for you: another 100-200 thousand of our soldiers killed + about the same number of cripples, or several thousand or tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians killed and injured in nuclear explosions.
                Moreover, a quick end to the war will also save the lives of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers.
            5. +9
              2 October 2025 14: 53
              But I don't think anyone will fire a single nuclear weapon at Russia for Ukraine's sake. Ukraine is not a NATO member.

              Maybe they won't. Now you can only guess.
              They also wrote that no one would help Ukraine, they would be afraid of Russia and its retaliatory actions.
              It even came to a direct threat when Putin said: “If the US allows ATACAMS missile strikes on Russia, the US will become a party to the conflict, with all the ensuing consequences.”
              Now we're already wondering whether they'll give us Tomahawks or not. And tomorrow we'll be wondering what else they'll give us.
              1. -1
                3 October 2025 16: 08
                Now we're already wondering whether they'll give us Tomahawks or not. And tomorrow we'll be wondering what else they'll give us.

                They will! And do you know why? Tomahawks have been out of production for a long time, they're obsolete, and their solid fuel shelf life is expiring. They'll have to be destroyed or sold to Europe for resale to Ukraine. For that to happen, the war would have to last for years, which is exactly what Europe wants. And for Russia, that would be a disaster. Here's what I wrote above to a guy with an English name, Churchill:

                I'm thinking you should see a psychiatrist, the way you're thinking is really scary. (This is what he writes to me).

                And what is more terrible and important for you: another 100-200 thousand of our soldiers killed + about the same number of cripples, or several thousand or tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians killed and injured in nuclear explosions.
                Moreover, a quick end to the war will also save the lives of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers.
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          2. -4
            2 October 2025 11: 03
            Quote: Adrey
            we will become a "legitimate" target for a preemptive nuclear strike by all of NATO


            These NATO roosters are dreaming of how to do this without receiving a RESPONSE.
            And they will draw up the "legality" after the fact.
            International law is completely dead (in fact, it didn't work much before, but now even what was there is gone).

            So what's the difference?
            While the Strategic Missile Forces are on duty, no one will move.
            And even the rhetoric will be on the verge of "it's not that bad that we supported YOUR 404" (and they will blame, but aren't they now accusing us of everything, who cares?).
            1. 0
              2 October 2025 11: 18
              I'll specifically reiterate your comment. NATO has only two nuclear-armed countries in Europe, not counting the United States, which certainly won't interfere in the showdown.
              Will France or cunning London fire nuclear missiles at Russia for Ukraine's sake, only to receive a nuclear response, despite Russia's significant nuclear superiority? Even the US is wary of Russia's nuclear potential.
            2. +6
              2 October 2025 20: 27
              A strike was launched against Russia's strategic nuclear forces. And no one in the Russian leadership twitched. So who's on duty? I don't know about the Strategic Missile Forces. And the Kremlin is clearly not on duty.
          3. +2
            2 October 2025 16: 12
            Quote: Adrey
            I'm amazed by the short-sightedness of those who advocate tactical nuclear weapons. Isn't it clear that if these weapons were used, even against Ukraine, we would become a "legitimate" target for a preemptive nuclear strike by all of NATO? I think they've long since developed this strategy, their targets have been defined, and all that's left is to "push the button."

            I don't think so. They themselves don't really want to burn in a thermonuclear fire because of urine. Until the US creates its own golden dome, if it ever does, I don't think they'll do anything about it. But completely expropriating all Russian assets in the West, not just national ones but those of the oligarchs as well, that's certainly possible.
            1. +1
              2 October 2025 16: 23
              Quote: Zoer
              Until the US creates, if it ever does, its own golden dome, I don't think they'll bother.

              If we are the first to start throwing nuclear batons, they might not live to see it.
              1. 0
                3 October 2025 10: 15
                Quote: Adrey
                If we are the first to start throwing nuclear batons, they might not live to see it.

                If in the US, then of course they won't wait. If in dUkraineoh, then they'll wait.
          4. +1
            2 October 2025 16: 34
            Why on earth would they? Ukraine isn't a NATO member. So why should they bother defending Ukraine?
            I'm not a supporter of the use of nuclear weapons at this point, especially against Ukraine. There are more pressing goals.
            1. -1
              2 October 2025 18: 16
              Quote: Evil_critic
              Why on earth would they? Ukraine isn't a NATO member. So why should they bother defending Ukraine?

              And why are they getting involved now?
              1. +1
                2 October 2025 19: 54
                Because it's cheap and fairly safe. But it's doubtful they'd go for a preemptive nuclear strike with so many unknowns.
                Due to a renewed sense of solidarity, Europeans are unlikely to expose their cities to a more than realistic nuclear strike. The potential losses far outweigh any benefits.
                1. 0
                  2 October 2025 20: 06
                  Quote: NordOst16
                  Because it's cheap and fairly safe.

                  I wouldn't say "cheap." "Cheap" means supplying first aid kits and helmets, not tanks and missiles. But nevertheless, it continues to escalate.
                  Quote: NordOst16
                  Because of the sudden feeling of solidarity

                  Is this when nuclear warheads explode on your borders? They'll show "solidarity" here, and for some reason, I personally don't have any questions about who they're with.
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2025 22: 39
                    Quote: Adrey
                    I wouldn't say "cheap." "Cheap" means supplying first aid kits and helmets, not tanks and missiles. But nevertheless, it continues to escalate.

                    Cheap means not having to use your own manpower; cheap means not having to compromise your infrastructure. And if we also take into account that there are no binding agreements on mutual military assistance, there's always the option of exiting the conflict quite easily.
                    So for European countries, the conflict is proceeding quite comfortably, and for certain industrial sectors and political groups, it is also very profitable.

                    Quote: Adrey
                    Is this when nuclear warheads explode on your borders? They'll show "solidarity" here, and for some reason, I personally don't have any questions about who they're with.

                    Firstly, nuclear charges would hypothetically explode far from the borders of European nuclear powers.
                    Secondly, nuclear strikes on a country that's not exactly far away are certainly unpleasant. But a guaranteed strike on one's own territory is an entirely different kind of discomfort. And it's unlikely that European governments would single-handedly hasten such an outcome.
                    1. -1
                      2 October 2025 22: 45
                      Quote: NordOst16
                      Cheap is when you don't need to use your own human resources.

                      It has been used for a long time.
                      Quote: NordOst16
                      cheap is when your infrastructure isn't under attack

                      And financial ones too. When will Europe freeze over?
                      Quote: NordOst16
                      Firstly, nuclear charges would hypothetically explode far from the borders of European nuclear powers.

                      In this case, far means on another continent.
                      Finish on this.
                      1. +1
                        2 October 2025 22: 56
                        Quote: Adrey
                        It has been used for a long time.

                        I haven't seen much news about forced mobilization in EU countries. And the number of foreign mercenaries in the Ukrainian Armed Forces isn't impressive. Military advisers and consultants don't count—they're few and far between.

                        Quote: Adrey
                        And financial ones too. When will Europe freeze over?

                        Financial problems there began even before the start of the Second World War. I don't think anyone there will freeze unless they really want to. But, again, this is a consequence of European actions, among other things.

                        Quote: Adrey
                        In this case, far means on another continent.

                        And still, it is further than our own territories.
                        Quote: Adrey
                        Finish on this.

                        I hope on a good note.
              2. 0
                2 October 2025 22: 30
                Do you yourself read what you write?
                Here is your quote:
                "Isn't it clear that if these weapons are used even against Ukraine, we will become a 'legitimate' target for a preemptive nuclear strike by all of NATO?"
                I ask again, why on earth would we become a legitimate target for all of NATO, and even for a nuclear strike?
                And don't answer a question with a question.
                First your answer, then ask your question!
                1. -1
                  2 October 2025 22: 33
                  Quote: Evil_critic
                  Do you yourself read what you write?

                  Of course. I can read. laughing
                  Quote: Evil_critic
                  I ask again, why on earth would we become a legitimate target for all of NATO, and even for a nuclear strike?

                  First, formulate your question correctly.
                2. 0
                  2 October 2025 22: 43
                  Quote: Evil_critic
                  And don't answer a question with a question.

                  You are an "anti-Semite". laughing hi
                  1. 0
                    3 October 2025 10: 33
                    If there was a minus from the author of the comment, then I tried in every way to emphasize with emoticons that it was not meant seriously and especially not as an offense.
                    1. 0
                      3 October 2025 11: 27
                      I just read your comment. And why would I give you a downvote anyway?
                      1. 0
                        3 October 2025 11: 31
                        Well, I kind of called him an anti-Semite, albeit in quotes, but some people don't notice that. Well, if you weren't the one offended, then it's all fine.
          5. 0
            2 October 2025 19: 46
            Preventive strike plans have been, are, and will be developed, and their implementation depends on an assessment of the potential risks to the country's security and the potential benefits. Since a nuclear war hasn't broken out until recently, it's safe to say that nuclear weapons possessors place a high value on the survivability of Russia's nuclear forces.

            Despite all the downsides and potentially catastrophic economic and political consequences for the Russian economy from the use of nuclear weapons, there are also some advantages to implementing this scenario. The US and Europe do not believe that Russia is capable of using nuclear weapons in a conflict, and they can toe the proverbial "red line" for a very long time, inflicting significant damage on the Russian economy with minimal risk. It is possible that the massive use of nuclear weapons (at full depth to disrupt logistics, production, energy, etc.) could be a very unpleasant revelation for our European colleagues, and the potential blurring of the boundaries of nuclear use would greatly increase the cost of provocations.
            I'm no expert and generally against the use of special means, but perhaps this could increase trust between the parties to the conflict (namely, the belief that the opponent is ready to use all means to achieve their goals) and somewhat blur the criteria for possible responses to a particular provocation.
            1. +2
              2 October 2025 20: 00
              Quote: NordOst16
              Since a nuclear war has not yet begun, it can be concluded that nuclear weapons holders highly value the survivability of Russia's nuclear forces.

              Until recently, NO ONE had used nuclear weapons since 1945. There is no basis for assessing the reaction to their "limited" use. There are no examples.
              1. 0
                2 October 2025 22: 47
                There are no examples, but there are numerous scientific papers on both sides of the fence. There's a desire not to do this, and a very strong belief that Russia will never agree to it. The latter isn't a good thing, as it destabilizes security in Europe.
                1. 0
                  3 October 2025 00: 40
                  It's high time the President made a statement about the possible use of special munitions when supplying long-range missiles to Ukraine. Since restrictions on supplying other countries with missiles with a range greater than 300 km are still in place, the Tomahawk's range is 2500 km.
                  1. +1
                    3 October 2025 08: 14
                    I don't think statements will help here; no one believes them (and I think for good reason). So there's no point in making statements that won't be implemented.
                    Perhaps, of course, missile strikes deep into the country will change some views on how the Central Asian War is proceeding and revise strategies (like in the Gaza Strip). We'll have to wait and see.
                    Although, of course, we would like to surprise our foreign opponents.
        3. -2
          2 October 2025 15: 48
          Quote: Alexey Lantukh
          All these forecasts seem more than bleak. A certain eeriness is palpable in the picture described.

          Russia, represented by its supreme leader, is distinguished by excessive, but not unlimited, patience. If, however, gas and electricity lines and stations are not necessarily damaged, then this poses an existential threat to the country's existence. What next? It's clear as day that nuclear strikes on Ukraine, possibly even the destruction of Kyiv, will follow. Of course, the population will be warned. In my opinion, test single-use warning nuclear strikes should already be carried out against military targets in the West.
        4. -5
          2 October 2025 17: 41
          It's unclear who downvoted Lantukh so much... it's clearly written: a threat to the country's independence gives the Supreme Commander the right to use tactical nuclear weapons. I'm sure 20 warheads of 2-5 kilotons each would be enough to sober people up. The population will need to be warned. All power plants, the Odessa port, and gas infrastructure are subject to destruction. Of course, such a strike would require careful consideration of climate science—there wouldn't be much radiation, but whatever radiation does emerge would be directed west and southwest.
          1. +2
            3 October 2025 00: 43
            He was downvoted for his idea of ​​demolishing Kyiv. It's a stupid idea, but military targets, strategic bridges, power plants, etc. are excellent targets.
            1. 0
              3 October 2025 17: 08
              Kyiv is the most extreme case. However, a nuclear strike on Zeli's bunker would be appropriate. However, I don't know if such charges can be buried deep in the ground. And the bunker is also Kyiv, and a "ground-bunker" explosion carries the risk of higher radiation levels than an airborne one.
        5. 0
          3 October 2025 19: 43
          Gather your entire family and tell them that I want nuclear weapons, and that's why you'll all die. What will they tell you? How did they ever live with such a freak? If you want to die, then go to the front lines and don't spout your nonsense at the Military District. And anyone who's in favor of nuclear weapons should be brought to the attention of the Russian Ministry of Defense and mobilized into the front lines of assault brigades by these suicide bombers.
          1. 0
            3 October 2025 20: 17
            If you want to die, then go to the front lines and don’t express your nonsense on VO.


            This is your comment from 2022
            Why is everything so difficult near Kharkov
            Ukrainians are defending their land and this is just the beginning, another 90% of the territory needs to be cleaned up and there is hatred for the Russians throughout the territory, and you have only propagandists here and still rush with your hats, go to the military registration and enlistment office for help, and do not write propaganda heresy.

            I've been reading your comments from the very beginning. It seems you're a "sincere" and "conscious" Ukrainian. Why are you so scared when I call for nuclear weapons? You're afraid. Well, as soon as Zelensky gets his hands on Tomahawks and uses them, a nuclear mushroom cloud will start to appear first in Western Ukraine. Unless, of course, there's some kind of ceasefire. But that's unlikely, since your president is a British spy, and the "British woman will keep on messing things up" to the end.

            Read your comment from 2022 again. Why are your Ukrainians rushing abroad? They don't want to fight. Even the Central Control Center had to start catching them.
        6. 0
          3 October 2025 20: 38
          You're crazy, writing about nuclear strikes. We don't have any bomb shelters in our country, not even a single one. Civil defense is just a theory. Where are ordinary citizens supposed to run? We can't hide from drones. And if we strike, what if they strike us? Are we ready for a nuclear war or not? Of course not. In our country, in the fourth year of the Cold War beyond the Urals, and not only there, critical infrastructure facilities are not covered. If any thermal power plant were to shut down in winter, it would be, to put it mildly, a disaster for the people. We need to start with that. Otherwise, they'll take the children out of school, and then what will they do? Where will they run, to the cemetery with a sheet?
        7. 0
          5 October 2025 02: 16
          Okay, so nuclear strikes have been carried out, and some key facilities have been destroyed. The West predictably supplies Ukraine with nuclear weapons, and it uses them. So what happens next? I don't rule out the use of nuclear weapons in modern conflicts, but they probably come to this gradually, and only when the enemy has left them no choice and their "nuclear weapons" are ready to launch or already in flight. Then again, who will suffer more from this—ordinary people or the leadership of the parties to the conflict? Do you, for example, have a personal bunker with all the amenities and a decent amount of autonomy? Or do you have no children or grandchildren, and are you in the terminal stages of cancer? To hell with it? So why didn't the US, after getting beat up in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and maybe elsewhere, immediately go down with a nuclear bludgeon? They could have, after all? They simply wiped their hands and withdrew their troops? Because the Anglo-Saxons spent centuries studying strategy, not just tactics. And you're proposing powerful ground nuclear strikes as well. Not aerial, but ground. How many ordinary people will suffer from radiation, and how many territories will be contaminated? And what will be the political consequences?
          1. 0
            5 October 2025 18: 27
            The West predictably supplies nuclear weapons to Ukraine

            What makes you think those madmen in Ukraine will be given nuclear weapons? Would they want to be hit on their own territory? Moreover, the proliferation of nuclear weapons could lead to the Houthis striking Israel with nuclear weapons, and American Jews don't want that at all. Everyone knows that America is largely run by Jews; at least, the Jewish lobby there is extremely powerful. As for ground strikes, that would only be possible against Western Ukraine, provided there's an easterly wind. Western Europe should develop a fear of nuclear weapons, of a radioactive cloud, because it, unlike you, has lost its fear of nuclear weapons.
      2. man
        10+
        2 October 2025 09: 52
        Quote: U-58
        All these forecasts seem more than bleak. A certain eeriness is palpable in the picture described.
        But... let's try to be optimistic.
        Maybe the leadership will find a way to accelerate our victories. Maybe...

        Not funny... sad
      3. +5
        2 October 2025 14: 13
        Quote: U-58
        But... let's try to be optimistic.

        There is no reason for optimism!
        Quote: U-58
        Perhaps the leadership will find a way to speed up our victories.

        You answered your own question.
        Quote: U-58
        May be...
    2. 30+
      2 October 2025 08: 19
      Sun Tzu's "The Art of War": "In war, if victory is long sought, the weapons become dull and the points break off; a long siege of a fortress exhausts the army.

      If the army is in the field for a long time, the state experiences a shortage of funds.

      If the weapons become dull and the points break off, the forces become exhausted and the resources run dry, the appanage rulers, taking advantage of the sovereign's weakness, will rise up against him.

      And then, even if he has wise assistants, he will not be able to do anything.

      Therefore, it happens that an inexperienced commander gains the upper hand in war if he acts quickly, but it does not happen that a skilled commander fights for a long time.

      There has never been a time when a protracted war was beneficial to a state. Therefore, anyone who doesn't thoroughly understand the harm of military action cannot fully understand the benefits of military action. The problem is that the Kremlin, fearing a negative reaction from the West, has not escalated the conflict in Ukraine. The Kremlin is continuing the course of 2014 or 1991, and that's as clear as day.
      1. -14
        2 October 2025 09: 35
        If you look at the big picture, China is getting stronger and will soon overtake the United States economically and strategically.
        Any expenditure of any complex weapon, no matter whether it is falling F-16s or raking javelins to zero or disposing of highmars + air defense, leads to victory for China. And as soon as the US economy starts collapsing and a civil war begins, they will shoot each other, since they have weapons in the hands of the population. Hungry blacks with guns are like that...So the main thing is to stall for time for the quiet development of China.
        1. 0
          3 October 2025 00: 47
          If we drag out time, then we are doomed and it won’t help China.
        2. 0
          5 October 2025 02: 27
          But why does Russia need such a powerful China? We're practically an appendage, so to speak, and a large part of the Russian population is sorting its consumer goods in logistics centers for pennies, instead of working in Russian factories for decent wages and servicing them. Your logic is strange and flawed. We need our own time, for our own peaceful development, not China's. And let China squabble with the US while Russia develops. That's the right way to think.
          1. 0
            6 October 2025 13: 51
            Yes, our million-plus cities are like the suburbs of any decent Chinese city. It just so happened—they're further south, with a huge population, and they're also rich in rare earth minerals. Naturally, any finished product is cheaper from here (just because they don't have to heat their production facilities for half a year), there's a larger pool of intelligent people among a billion people than among 120 million, there are more farm laborers available for any wage, and the domestic market is larger. So, say what you will, having escaped the colonial era, these guys will objectively develop faster. But at least they're relatively peace-loving. And anyway, the enemy of my enemy...
      2. +9
        2 October 2025 10: 17
        Sun Tzu was an ordinary warrior. Today's wars are waged by merchants. As long as warfare is profitable, it's okay to fight with broken blades.
        1. +9
          2 October 2025 11: 10
          Quote: Gardamir
          The current fighting is being carried out by merchants.

          Alien hands.


          Quote: Gardamir
          As long as fighting brings profit, one can fight with broken blades.


          And we're back to the "everything the communists lied to us about turned out to be true!" idea. Capital buys up people and the media (and the latter pollute the minds of those they clearly haven't bought). And people are being slaughtered.
          As long as this continues, wars will continue again and again.
        2. +9
          2 October 2025 11: 40
          Sun Tzu was an ordinary warrior
          - and Machiavelli was an ordinary Italian fishmonger...

          Sun Tzu was first and foremost a scholar—a dialectician and an expert on human nature as it was described within the context of Chinese civilization. He was also an expert on the universal nature of humankind.

          There is nothing more to be said about this quote from his most famous work to describe the essence of the military history of the SVO.
          1. +4
            2 October 2025 11: 42
            Well, I’m not actually criticizing Sun Tzu, but rather talking about modern history that is being written now.
      3. 10+
        2 October 2025 10: 56
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        "...
        There has never been a time when a long war was beneficial to a state.

        Exactly. And time is crucial. It would have been better to strike quickly and without regard for "damage to civilian infrastructure" using all but nuclear weapons than to procrastinate and multiply losses, including among civilians on both sides. This would have been more humane toward the civilian population. By initially limiting the army's capabilities, this unjustified selectivity resulted in greater losses than otherwise.
        1. +1
          2 October 2025 12: 38
          This is the new OST Plan. Ukraine is being purged of its indigenous population for the needs of the US and Europe, and we are playing a certain role in this. The West, having provoked us into the SVO, is using it for its own purposes – to reduce the indigenous population. "To the last Ukrainian" is not a slogan; it's a real goal. Here are political scientist E. Gilbo's revelations on this topic: "Ukraine has been sentenced not just to euthanasia, but to genocide. It has been decided that there should be no Slavic population in this region. Between the Russian Federation, or what remains of it, and Europe, there must be a culturally alien space."
          1. +1
            3 October 2025 19: 11
            The problem is that it's not just Ukraine that's being purged of its population, but Russia as well. The European plan is good: encourage them, throw in some money and weapons, and watch as Slavs beat Slavs.
    3. 2al
      18+
      2 October 2025 09: 16
      By increasing purchases of nickel, fertilizer, and nuclear fuel from Russia. Ironically, our government has completely stopped mentioning Russia's retaliatory sanctions, even against NATO countries. The topic is apparently so thorny that it has completely disappeared from official discourse.
    4. +6
      2 October 2025 14: 17
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      And Europe is preparing for this!

      I live in the Netherlands.
      The sons (four sons, all adults) received summonses to FORTH to undergo voluntary training under the auspices of the Ministry of Defense.
    5. AAK
      +4
      2 October 2025 18: 28
      Our permanent President recently mentioned that the Central Military District should have been launched earlier, but in my opinion, it's not so much the timing of the launch as the thoroughness of the preparation, which was lacking. The entire plan was based solely on "nepotism," which ended in a brutal failure, with "redeployments" and "negotiations," despite the presence of a multitude of intelligence agencies and think tanks. But our political and military leadership lacked the intelligence and willpower to quickly address the problems that had surfaced back in mid- to late 2022. The fruits of two years of hope for an "overseas uncle" have fizzled, and no sound, strong-willed decisions have been made to this day...
  2. 30+
    2 October 2025 04: 20
    So wait, we're hearing from all sides, including this one, that the VSU defense is about to wake up and we'll be entering the operational space!
    1. 19+
      2 October 2025 05: 06
      Quote: zontov79
      So wait, we're hearing from all sides, including this one, that the VSU defense is about to wake up and we'll be entering the operational space!

      Propaganda is obliged to do this, and it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. If you haven't noticed, every lamppost and public transport vehicle has a banner with "Victory!" in big letters. This convinces people that everything is fine, that victory is guaranteed no matter what. Ordinary people have become accustomed to the fact that there are battles going on somewhere, people are dying, but that's somewhere else, and here is "Victory!" This justifies everything: prices, taxes, fines, housing and utilities...
      1. +1
        3 October 2025 10: 24
        I remembered that in one issue of the book, the word VICTORY was used to describe absolutely everything.
  3. 27+
    2 October 2025 04: 22
    The SVO can go on forever; we risk passing this problem on not only to our children but also to our grandchildren... There's only one way out of this situation... It's time to end the SVO. It's time to declare war, with all the necessary measures, and start fighting. Enough of this "gentlemanly behavior," "red lines," and so on. No one understands or appreciates this; it's perceived as Russia's weakness! If we don't want a war with Europe, we must destroy Ukraine. Our weakness isn't in the army—the soldiers are doing everything they can in the LBS—but in those who command this army.
    Stop feeling sorry for the Enemy, it's time to start feeling sorry for your own citizens!
    1. 35+
      2 October 2025 05: 46
      Quote: Hunter 2
      There is only one way out of this situation... It's time to end the SVO, It's time to declare war on all events

      In 22-23, I would have agreed with you. Now, no. The reasons are that time and resources were irretrievably lost. Now
      1) The Russian government won't overthrow itself, so the people will remain the same. If they squandered all the ideal opportunities in 2014 and the tolerable ones in 2022, then why will they declare war (that is, take responsibility) in 2025 when the situation is 100 times worse.
      2) There is nothing left to fight with
      3) And there's really no one in particular. All categories of citizens whom the authorities "don't feel sorry for" and who were willing to go to war have been exhausted.
      4) War has no purpose. Why declare war? To liquidate all of Ukraine? No one will allow that. To replace Zelensky's regime and liberate Ukraine without annexing its territories? That's what should have been done in 2022.
      1. 19+
        2 October 2025 06: 45
        Why, no one? The decline of the economy and consumption is, first and foremost, the impoverishment of the people. And where will they be able to earn money? Only from the SVO. In my opinion, this is becoming an end in itself—to plunge more Russians into war.
        1. +8
          2 October 2025 07: 20
          We have a shortage of people in the defense industry. It's not because there aren't any. One friend, when asked, "Why don't you go to the factory?" replied, "You have to work there." So he went to work as a security guard.
        2. +5
          2 October 2025 10: 49
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Where can they make money? Only at the SVO.

          You're wrong. They'll think they can make money there. But there are fewer and fewer of those who aren't very smart.
          1. +4
            2 October 2025 11: 27
            You're absolutely right. I worded it incorrectly. Here's an example: two men in a family died. The first was mobilized. The other looked at his son-in-law's payroll on the front lines and joined up. Both died last February.
        3. +1
          2 October 2025 16: 52
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Why, no one?

          Because in addition to warriors, we also need workers behind the lines to forge weapons, lots of them... They've already imported 1,5-2 million SRAs into the country, and not the most educated or hard-working ones at that. There's no one to work as it is. So if we take another million or 1.5 million young, educated, and hard-working people away from the machine, WHO will make the weapons? The Yuki are a huge profiteer in this regard; they're getting supplies like water. And not just weapons, but also fuel, energy, and food. There's one thing I don't understand about this. The guarantor went off to China triumphantly. He showed loyalty to Uncle Xi and dumped Trump. And this is the only reason for the failure of the negotiation process and Trump's turn toward Zelensky. So, what about China? Doesn't it want to be a little more active in helping us in the SVO? Why aren't Chinese armored combat vehicles, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns, ammunition, missiles, and other systems available on the LBS yet? Why isn't China giving us cheap loans?
          1. +5
            2 October 2025 19: 10
            Why should the Chinese give us cheap loans and provide us with weapons? Are they allies? No, they're simply approaching the issue purely pragmatically and exploiting our problems completely and to their own advantage. Need Maviks? Buy them at exorbitant prices. But we (the Chinese) need gas and oil, and at a lower price. Because the Russians can't sell them at a higher price. They've cut off our breathing space.
            1. +5
              2 October 2025 21: 46
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              Why should the Chinese give us cheap loans and weapons? Are they allies? No, they're simply approaching the issue pragmatically and exploiting our problems to their full advantage.

              Just like the much-maligned Americans with their Yuki and EU counterparts. As the saying goes: "Find the two differences."
            2. 0
              3 October 2025 10: 33
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              Are they allies?

              Why then is the guarantor holding on to them and not selling them to Trump? What benefit does such a policy offer Russia?
              1. +2
                3 October 2025 11: 55
                There's no profit here. We're simply forced to bow to the Chinese. Because without them, everything is lost. Machines, machine tools, electronics, and much more. The Chinese have us tied hand and foot. Including in the North-Eastern Front.
                1. 0
                  3 October 2025 12: 42
                  Quote from: dmi.pris1
                  We're simply forced to bow to the Chinese. Because without them, everything is lost. Machines, machine tools, electronics, and much more. The Chinese have us tied hand and foot. Including in the North Military District.

                  That's the point, Trump was suggesting a change of scenery. Sanctions would have been eased. But those at the top decided to stick with the Chinese.
          2. +1
            3 October 2025 11: 59
            There are people to work. I don't see any migrants around here. We, the locals, do everything. We clean up trash, build, and work in the fields. Maybe the wages aren't suitable for them here, in the middle of nowhere, in Kuban?
            1. 0
              3 October 2025 12: 42
              Quote from: dmi.pris1
              Maybe there is no suitable salary for them here, in the middle of nowhere, in Kuban?

              Maybe. We have TONS of them.
        4. +2
          3 October 2025 02: 04
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          The decline of the economy and consumption primarily impoverishes people. Where will they earn money? Only through social security.

          That's absolutely true. It's cannibalistic, but that's how it really is. And the officials don't really hide it: "There's enough work for everyone at SVO."
          The problem here, however, is that the logic of making a buck from the SVO worked well in 22-23, and still worked somehow in 2024. Now, even the dumbest have realized that they're more likely to kill you here and then sign you up for the SOC. Dunya, we don't have any fools. Better to be poor than dead.
          It's enough for the current population (although it's already barely), but Okhotoved is proposing to increase it sharply.
          1. +2
            3 October 2025 10: 37
            Quote: Belisarius
            The problem here, however, is that the logic of making a buck from the SVO worked well in 22-23, and still worked somehow in 2024. Now, even the dumbest have realized that they're more likely to kill you here and then sign you up for the SOC. Dunya, we don't have any fools. Better to be poor than dead.

            And then they started realizing that even if they don't kill you or register you with the Special Purpose Car Crime Unit, they'll still fleece you, strangling consumption with inflation, tariffs, and duties. My favorite example is the car market, with its junkyards and extortion. So, you sign a contract, get a million or two, wow, that's great!!! You go buy your family a Chinese wagon, and pay ALL that money for the junkyard fees and import duties to your own country. laughing Like in that joke... can you feel your finger behind you? And your hands are right here... laughing
        5. 0
          3 October 2025 04: 39
          Why only at SVO? They can make money abroad, too.
          They may also engage in crime.
          They can also be some kind of anarchism.
          There are options.
      2. +2
        2 October 2025 07: 17
        Quote: Belisarius
        To liquidate all of Ukraine as such? No one will allow that.

        And did they allow the SVO to be carried out? It's too late to stop now.
        1. +2
          3 October 2025 01: 02
          We need to get going, not live as if nothing is happening. We need to put the economy on a war footing, i.e., "guns instead of butter." And we, the Russian people, need to tighten our belts and be patient. There's no other way out, otherwise we'll lose, give up Crimea and Donbas, and face a major crisis in the country.
        2. 0
          3 October 2025 12: 03
          They gave it to us because they knew (unlike Russian intelligence) what it would ultimately lead to: the maximum weakening of Russia.
      3. +5
        2 October 2025 07: 47
        To liquidate all of Ukraine as such? No one will allow that.


        Why? And who will stop us? Everything depends on the resolve of our strategist, and we have problems with that. Grandpa has become sentimental, and all this is costing us dearly. The peacetime of the rest of "non-belligerent" Ukraine is costing us far too dearly, and Trump's comparison to a paper tiger is more than convincing. The Soviet Union doesn't need to be turned into a war zone, but it's long overdue for harsh ultimatums. For example, they took away some oil refinery, and in return, we took away their entire electric power industry. The key to victory lies in the destruction of the electric power industry. It's like Koshchei's needle: break it, and all evil will collapse.
        1. +2
          3 October 2025 02: 24
          Quote: krops777
          Why? And who will stop you from doing it?

          I'll answer you and Konnik. Do you think it's a coincidence that the "SVO" is being held in this format? After all, it doesn't exist in Russian law. No one officially declared it. Legally, it doesn't even exist. The idea was to intimidate the enemy and achieve a favorable peace agreement. Literally, in 3-4 days. Negotiations began on the fourth day. The SVO status allows us to avoid any responsibility and pretend we're not attacking anyone...
          And you're talking about declaring war to eliminate Ukraine. That would simply mean admitting that we're becoming the new Hitler. Even Israel can't afford that. Besides, it's just a bunch of articles in our Criminal Code, and assuming full responsibility. So there won't be any war, there will be an endless war.
          Quote: krops777
          but it's high time to switch to a regime of tough ultimatums,

          This can be done, or rather, it should have been done at 22:23 PM. The problem is that there were plenty of ultimatums and big words, but no action at all, or very little.
          Right now, I'm not at all sure that we can simply do this (without using nuclear weapons). But we need to try, and it's better to start with strikes against the Maidan elite itself, since the energy sector also includes peaceful people.
          1. 0
            3 October 2025 04: 41
            What articles of the Criminal Code are you referring to? Who will apply them to the Russian Federation's leadership?
      4. -9
        2 October 2025 13: 33
        How can there be nothing to fight with—weapons production is growing every month! Geranium strikes are becoming more and more widespread. There's no one to fight—those who need the money are still coming, and no one has cancelled the second mobilization. Although, given everything that's happening, I'm no longer sure it will be even halfway completed.
      5. 0
        2 October 2025 16: 21
        The situation is very dire. A repeat of 17 could happen.
        But then again, I wouldn't say it helped the Anglo-Saxons much back then. They spent 70 years breaking their teeth over the RSFSR and the USSR.
        1. +5
          2 October 2025 16: 54
          Quote: Wladislaw
          The situation is very dire. A repeat of 17 could happen.

          For now I would still say 1905.
          1. +1
            5 October 2025 02: 42
            The people are still well-fed and satiated. And they're still suffering from some contrived nonsense. The fat is just starting to come off. So you're right.
    2. 21+
      2 October 2025 06: 00
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The SVO can go on forever; we risk passing this problem on not only to our children but also to our grandchildren... There's only one way out of this situation... It's time to end the SVO. It's time to declare war, with all the necessary measures, and start fighting. Enough of this "gentlemanly behavior," "red lines," and so on. No one understands or appreciates this; it's perceived as Russia's weakness! If we don't want a war with Europe, we must destroy Ukraine. Our weakness isn't in the army—the soldiers are doing everything they can in the LBS—but in those who command this army.
      Stop feeling sorry for the Enemy, it's time to start feeling sorry for your own citizens!
      I fully support this! We ourselves have prolonged this SVO, allowing "red lines" to be crossed without doing anything in return. At the beginning of the conflict, Europeans were afraid to even talk about supporting Ukraine, scrutinizing our response, which was nonexistent. As a result, now even the border states are openly attacking Russia, loudly declaring their support for Ukraine, supplying weapons, and providing territory for drone launches. (And perhaps they're even launching drones themselves, taking advantage of the opportunity to blame the Ukrainian Armed Forces.)
      1. 15+
        2 October 2025 06: 28
        Quote: Sedov
        I fully support!

        While in 2022, just a week before and a week after the start, I was in the States and Canada on business, and I spoke with various leading engineers and service technicians about this, among other things. They (as did I, by the way) seriously assumed it would all be over in two weeks... Old notions about the Soviet army...
        The problem is that the general consensus right now is that we simply can't. Yes, we have powerful nuclear weapons. But there's a complete lack of faith in their use (thanks to the red lines).
        It seems after his last trip that Trump is the only one who is truly afraid of the use of nuclear weapons and believes in the possibility of their use if we are pushed to...
        As for "the weakness isn't in the army," I disagree. And there, too. The issue of drone defense at the non-homemade level hasn't been resolved. Ivanov wasn't suspended in 2019 or something.
        Judging by the comments, there is no longer any hope for our own economy; we are relying on China...
        And then they slowly start to get serious...
        1. +6
          2 October 2025 13: 38
          It would have all been over in two weeks (a month) if they had started right away by eliminating Ukraine's leadership and shutting down all the systems, at least in Kyiv. Oh, what's the point of even talking about it now!
      2. +6
        3 October 2025 00: 34
        Quote: Sedov
        Enough of this "gentlemanliness", "red lines", etc.,

        There's no such thing as "gentlemanliness"—that's an excuse promoted by official propaganda. There's impotence. And the understanding that this sluggish CBO could be a mere pittance for Russia, compared to what could unfold in the event of a serious escalation. At least with this CBO, everything is more or less clear: we're moving west at a snail's pace (but steadily), gradually becoming poorer (but not critically, not yet starving), losing people, but not enough to send an outraged people swarming the Kremlin.
        Now imagine what might happen if we shut down the VNA's power grid? What's to stop Trump from throwing in a couple hundred tomahawks to retaliate? Even if the power goes out only in the Russian border regions, that would make life much more difficult for the Moscow authorities. Do they need it? And the residents of those regions themselves don't need it. It's us here on the forum waving sabers, with power in our outlets and heating in our radiators.
        We need to end the SVO, "by any means necessary," preferably by 2026. It's unlikely to happen any sooner. If we can't retake Kherson in a year, then it's unlikely to happen in two or three.
    3. +1
      2 October 2025 07: 23
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The SVO can go on forever; we risk passing this problem on not only to our children but also to our grandchildren... There's only one way out of this situation... It's time to end the SVO. It's time to declare war, with all the necessary measures, and start fighting. Enough of this "gentlemanly behavior," "red lines," and so on. No one understands or appreciates this; it's perceived as Russia's weakness! If we don't want a war with Europe, we must destroy Ukraine. Our weakness isn't in the army—the soldiers are doing everything they can in the LBS—but in those who command this army.
      Stop feeling sorry for the Enemy, it's time to start feeling sorry for your own citizens!

      Totally agree with you.
      Trump has already renamed the Department of Defense the Department of War.
      So, the US will hand over Tomahawks to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. But who will control them and provide targeting information? Tomahawks can carry nuclear warheads. How can we tell what kind of warhead is inside? Maybe they'll just detonate it right away, to dispel any illusions about tactical nuclear weapons? Felt-tip pens don't scare anyone anymore. The issue of conducting nuclear tests is long overdue.
      1. +2
        2 October 2025 10: 29
        Actually, the correct translation is the Military Department, or the Department of Military Affairs. That's what it was officially called back then. Even in the USSR, that's how it was translated back then. True, we were allies back then, but now, well...for propaganda purposes, they've translated it as the Ministry of War.
      2. +2
        3 October 2025 00: 43
        Quote: Bearded
        The issue of conducting nuclear tests has been long overdue.

        Yes, at least withdraw from the treaties: 1) on the ban on tests in the air, water and space, 2) on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, 3) on the non-proliferation of missile technologies.
        This alone will make the West clutch their heads. Okay, I went a bit overboard with the non-proliferation issue, but the rest can be done. It even needs to be done.
    4. 0
      2 October 2025 09: 42
      It's time to start fighting!!!

      Another Captain Obvious, from the couch.
      Why aren't we fighting now? We've been hitting them with everything we've got for four years now, even hypersonic missiles!
      What will declaring war and imposing martial law gain us? Will our missiles fly faster? Or will our bombs become more accurate? Do you really think we have anything left in our arsenal that we can pull out, use, and immediately win? We've already used everything we could...
      In many ways, the situation we find ourselves in now is due to people like you: those sitting at home in retirement and dreaming of defeating everyone with one blow.
      1. man
        +7
        2 October 2025 10: 07
        In many ways, the situation we find ourselves in now is due to people like you: those sitting at home in retirement and dreaming of defeating everyone with one blow.
        So you have found the main enemy... fellow It turned out they were pensioners... sad
      2. +2
        2 October 2025 10: 18
        Well, it depends... the drunks and the blues have already been packed into the black soil, now it's the turn of those who sow and plow
        1. +6
          2 October 2025 16: 29
          Don't do that. I have a brother there. He doesn't drink. He's with 19-year-old guys. They've never seen life, they went to fight for Russia. As volunteers.
        2. -1
          3 October 2025 19: 30
          Don't talk nonsense. There are a lot of people there. All kinds. There are those you mentioned, and there are also patriots who joined not for money, but for their country...
      3. +4
        2 October 2025 10: 34
        Wait, what did the pensioners do wrong? Did they plunder the army? Did they prevent it from producing modern weapons? But you're right—we're fighting at the very limits of our financial, industrial, and human resources.
        1. -2
          2 October 2025 11: 13
          In fact, the mobilization of pensioners with limited fitness for work and military service is long overdue. It should have been implemented even after the mass exodus of those of draft age in 2022. This will ensure the necessary redistribution of labor resources and fill rear-echelon positions in the Armed Forces. Drivers, anti-drone air defense gunners, and property guards—all of these roles could be entrusted to pensioners who are fit for duty.
          Plus, there is provision of rations and medical care under optimization conditions.
          1. +3
            2 October 2025 21: 52
            Quote: Victor Leningradets
            In fact, the mobilization of pensioners with limited fitness for work and military service is long overdue. It should have been implemented even after the mass exodus of those of draft age in 2022.
            Plus, there is provision of rations and medical care under optimization conditions.

            Unfortunately, your sarcasm wasn't understood. I'll correct it a bit.
      4. 0
        2 October 2025 17: 02
        Quote: Reporter
        What will declaring war and imposing martial law gain us? Will our missiles fly faster? Or will our bombs become more accurate? Do you really think we have anything left in our arsenal that we can pull out, use, and immediately win?

        No, it would simply provide a good opportunity to nationalize the country's raw materials sector. It's odd that the main budget revenue is VAT, about 17 trillion out of 40 trillion, while the mineral extraction tax (which, by the way, is only 3-5%) brings in about 10 trillion. Meanwhile, the budget deficit this year is 4,8 trillion. A major war requires a huge amount of money, and it's still flowing west through the oligarchs' pockets. At this rate, our hair will be cracking for another 10-20 years...
        1. +4
          3 October 2025 02: 11
          Quote: Zoer
          No, it will simply provide a good opportunity to nationalize the country's raw materials sector.

          Come on, if they'd wanted to, it could have been done without martial law. Khodorkovsky will confirm this, as will many others who "didn't fit" into the system of power.
          1. 0
            3 October 2025 10: 41
            Quote: MBRBS
            oh well, if they wanted to, it could have been done without martial law.

            Not under these rulers.

            Quote: MBRBS
            Khodorkovsky will confirm this, as will many others who “didn’t fit in” with the system of power.

            So this is simply a reshuffle within the gang. State interests are not visible there.
      5. -2
        3 October 2025 01: 14
        What will declaring war and introducing martial law give us?
        It will increase weapons production, since Ukraine still uses more drones than we do. Yes, they can abolish wages, introduce food stamps, and even introduce forced labor. Yes, they can confiscate a lot of the population's property for the needs of the front, and we'll be poorer, but that's how our fathers and grandfathers defeated fascism.
        1. +4
          3 October 2025 08: 32
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          It will increase weapons production, since Ukraine still uses more drones than we do.

          So they assemble them from parts not produced in Ukraine. Because of the war decree, the parts won't appear.
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          Yes, they can abolish wages, introduce food stamps, and even introduce forced labor. Yes, they can confiscate a lot of the population's property for the needs of the front, and we'll be poorer, but that's exactly how our fathers and grandfathers defeated fascism.

          We don't live in the USSR, but in a capitalist country for 35 years now, and Hitler and his fascist hordes didn't even come within hundreds of kilometers of us... although you, of all people, might be ready to perform labor feats for a bowl of rice, not just in words... besides, the USSR had an industrial base and an agricultural base, where all these people worked, and now there is significantly less of that, both in terms of base and territory... in short, you shouldn't compare 1941 in the USSR with 2025 in the Russian Federation...
          1. +1
            5 October 2025 03: 01
            Yeah, a lot of people still live in the Soviet Union's reality and think in those terms. And the fact that new billionaires have emerged in Russia during the Soviet Union doesn't mean anything to them; they're perfectly happy with the cards... It's all so sad, honestly...
        2. 0
          3 October 2025 10: 55
          That's how they fought the fascists—a different ideology. And now some capitalist profiteers are fighting the same kind. One crow won't peck out another crow's eye.
    5. -7
      2 October 2025 10: 09
      Quote: Hunter 2
      It's time to end the SVO, it's time to declare war with all measures, and start fighting.

      Have you read the law on martial law?
      There is a clause about censorship...
      To begin with, the country will have to shut down cellular communications for civilians. The class of war bloggers will disappear entirely. Naturally, all minimally oppositional forums, including VO, will disappear. Access to wired internet will require a passport, and computers will be registered with the state services portal.
      And you will listen to the Ministry of Defense's report 3 times a day on TV...........
      Something like this - when war and martial law are declared.
      1. +4
        2 October 2025 17: 10
        Quote: your1970
        To begin with, the country will have to shut down cellular communications for civilians in general.

        WHAT FOR?
        Quote: your1970
        The class of military bloggers will disappear as a class.

        Not against it at all.
        Quote: your1970
        Access to wired internet will be provided with a passport.

        How can it be any different now? Whether it's wired or wireless. Your identity will be established very, very quickly. Even if you're using a gray SIM card.
        Quote: your1970
        And you will listen to the Ministry of Defense's report 3 times a day on TV...........
        Something like this - when war and martial law are declared.

        Well, to hell with it. As long as this is all over as soon as possible.
        But that's not the issue. It's the acute shortage of personnel and modern weaponry. And I'm not just talking about the AK-12 and Ratnik combat gear. I'm also talking about UAVs, artillery systems and ammunition, armored vehicles and tanks, precision-guided missiles, and the unmanned multipurpose anti-tank missile system. And we have HUGE problems with all of this.
        1. +1
          2 October 2025 17: 39
          Quote: Zoer
          WHAT FOR?

          Why did they confiscate radios in the USSR? To prevent any information from leaking out. Since it's difficult to shut down all the numerous WhatsApp services and other such things, it's much easier to deprive citizens of cell phone service.

          Quote: Zoer
          How can it be any different now? Whether it's wired or wireless. Your identity will be established very, very quickly. Even if you're using a gray SIM card.
          To do this, you need to make an effort, and when logging in with a passport from a registered computer, self-censorship will turn on automatically.
          The opponent demanded
          Quote: Hunter 2
          It's time to declare war on all events and start fighting

          I told him that the Military Provisions Act would be implemented. Moreover, if everything else takes a while, then cellular service could be shut off for the entire country in half an hour.
          Quote: Zoer
          And in acute shortage personal composition and modern weapons for it.
          - and you suggest using it to catch dissatisfied people on WhatsApp and social networks.
          And this will not be the most severe infringement of citizens' rights.
          1. 0
            3 October 2025 10: 25
            Quote: your1970
            Why did they confiscate radios in the USSR? To prevent any information from leaking out. Since it's difficult to shut down all the numerous WhatsApp services and other such things, it's much easier to deprive citizens of cell phone service.

            Now everything works differently. And the restrictions on freedoms are already in full swing, even without any martial law.
            Quote: your1970
            The law on military service. Moreover, if everything else takes a while, then cellular service can be shut off for the entire country in half an hour.

            The law on military service clearly states: DISCONNECT cellular communications? wassat
            Quote: your1970
            - and you suggest using it to catch dissatisfied people on WhatsApp and social networks.

            What's the point of rounding up those disgruntled people? I'd like to point out that in the USSR, this was done without any formalities. And it's the same in today's Russia. Hundreds have already been convicted for posts and likes on social media and messaging apps. And this has NOTHING to do with the formalities.
            1. 0
              3 October 2025 11: 31
              Quote: Zoer
              I'd like to point out that in the USSR, this was done without any formalities. And it's the same in today's Russia. Hundreds have already been convicted for posts and likes on social media and messaging apps. And this has NOTHING to do with the formalities.

              Right here on VO, you can easily and casually count a couple hundred dissatisfied people. Putting them all in jail is impossible; it's much easier and more effective to deprive them of their audience by cutting off their cell phone service.
              Quote: Zoer
              The restriction of freedoms is already in full swing and without any martial law.
              You're confusing the restriction of freedoms with their complete deprivation in the event of an official war. These are two very different things—and this is clearly evident in the example of the Great Patriotic War.
              1. 0
                3 October 2025 12: 38
                Quote: your1970
                Right here on VO, you can easily and casually count a couple hundred dissatisfied people. Putting them all in jail is impossible; it's much easier and more effective to deprive them of their audience by cutting off their cell phone service.

                laughing Are cell phone service and VO comments the same thing to you? Ugh, you can't possibly be spreading fateful decisions to the masses with such knowledge of the material!
                Firstly, cellular service and broadband are two different concepts. You can disable internet access while still maintaining 2G mobile service. If you remember, there were phones like the Nokia 3310. Any gadget in the country can be upgraded to the same level as a Nokia, and you don't need to completely disable cellular service. fellow
                Secondly, if you need to combat dissatisfaction, it's easily done through administrative means, some of which you haven't been above using here. Simply implement a strict moderation and banning policy, like they do on LostArmor. Everyone there is completely satisfied, and there's no criticism at all, even on obvious issues.
                And thirdly. As history has shown, fighting the dissatisfied isn't very productive for the state itself. Those same dissatisfied people in the USSR, even those convicted, went to war for their homeland. At the same time, quite a few "satisfied sycophants" also turned into traitors. And so, something tells me that the introduction of a military post now will hit the "satisfied sycophants" and the country's elite the hardest. That's precisely why no one will introduce a military post.
                1. 0
                  3 October 2025 16: 55
                  Quote: Zoer
                  Are cell phone service and VO comments the same thing to you? Ugh, you can't possibly be spreading fateful decisions to the masses with such knowledge of the material!

                  For you, censorship is impossible when the connection is cut down even to the level of the Nokia 3110. Because even the 3110 allows for instant massive distribution of information.
                  therefore if censorship - that Automatic and complete shutdown of cellular communications. Wired communication allows you to rigidly fix the location and subscriber.

                  Quote: Zoer
                  part of which you(YAYAYAYA??????!!!!! belay belay ) They didn't hesitate to use it here either.

                  Hmm, I'm in a pre-banned state, hanging by a thread.
                  That's why you're seriously confusing me with someone else.

                  Quote: Zoer
                  Fighting dissatisfied people isn't a very productive endeavor for the state itself. And those same dissatisfied people in the USSR, even those convicted, went to war for their homeland.

                  Nevertheless ALL state All times of their dissatisfaction during Wars - destroys.

                  Quote: Zoer
                  The introduction of the military-industrial complex will hit the country's "satisfied sycophants" and elites the hardest right now. That's why no one will introduce any military-industrial complex.

                  Why would that be? The elite have already been robbed of everything they had abroad, and they won't be getting it back. ("There's no extradition from the Don.") lol ) never - they were loyal for too long. They only returned part of it, and only to those who fled first.
                  You understand yourself - that purely technical They can run away now, but there is nowhere to go.
                  But the sycophants don't care - they are sycophants...
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2025 10: 27
                    Quote: your1970
                    For you, censorship is impossible even with a Nokia 3110 connection. Because even the 3110 allows for instant mass messaging.

                    What are you talking about? How is that possible? I've never heard of mobile operators offering bulk SMS messaging services to ordinary citizens. fool
                    To my friends, 3-5-10 people, is this a mass mailing? HOWEVER!!!
                    Quote: your1970
                    Hmm, I'm in a pre-banned state, hanging by a thread.
                    That's why you're seriously confusing me with someone else.

                    I'm not confusing things, I'm not confusing things!))) So you were the ones snitching. It's thanks to snitchers like you that you're hanging by a thread...

                    Quote: your1970
                    Nevertheless, ALL states of ALL times that were dissatisfied during the War are destroyed.

                    What nonsense!!! All the saboteurs, yes. I gave examples of penal battalions in WWII... But there will always be dissatisfied people, under any regime or system.
                    Quote: your1970
                    Why would that be? The elites have already been stripped of everything foreign.

                    Nothing like that !!!
                    1. Dmitry Peskov (Putin's press secretary) - daughter Liza lives and studies in France, son Nikolai was convicted in Great Britain and spent more than a year in an English prison, wife owns an apartment in the USA with an area of ​​126 m2.

                    2. Vladimir Yakunin (former head of Russian Railways, member of the Ozero cooperative) lives in Germany, his eldest son Andrei became a British citizen, and his youngest son, Viktor, became a Cypriot.

                    3. Andrei Fursenko, the former Minister of Education who pushed through the Unified State Exam (USE) system, long hid from the public the fact that his children also studied abroad. His son, Alexander, lives in the United States.

                    4. Boris Gryzlov (former speaker of the State Duma, member of the Security Council) - his daughter lives in Tallinn and received Estonian citizenship.

                    5. Pavel Astakhov (as the Presidential Commissioner for Children's Rights, he "protected" our orphans from adoption by foreigners) - the children are one in France, the other in England.

                    6. Sergei Zheleznyak (State Duma deputy from United Russia, bills on hosting personal data on Russian servers, blocking torrents, etc.) - both daughters - Anastasia and Elizaveta - live in the UK, the eldest works for BBC News.

                    7. Sergey Lavrov (Minister of Foreign Affairs) - daughter Ekaterina was born and raised in New York, graduated from Columbia University, where she studied political science, and a master's degree in economics in London.

                    8. Irina Rodnina (State Duma deputy from United Russia) - daughter Alena lives in Washington, USA, worked for Russia Today.

                    9. Vladimir Pekhtin (former deputy, was chairman of the State Duma commission on parliamentary ethics, deputy chairman of the State Duma, first deputy chairman of the United Russia faction) - lives with his son in Miami, USA.

                    10. Vyacheslav Fetisov (First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Physical Culture, Sports, Tourism and Youth Affairs, First Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Social Policy) - his daughter grew up and studied in the USA. She never learned to write or read in Russian.

                    11. Alexander Remezkov (State Duma deputy) - the eldest son Stepan graduated from a military college in the USA, entered the private Hofstra University in New York, the middle son Nikolai is studying in the UK at the private school Malvern College, daughter Masha lives in Vienna, where she does gymnastics.

                    12. Elena Rakhova (deputy of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg, who called Leningrad residents who lived less than 120 days during the siege "non-blockade survivors") - daughter Polina lives in the USA.

                    The list is far from complete.
                    1. 0
                      6 October 2025 11: 41
                      Quote: Zoer
                      What are you talking about? How is that possible? I've never heard of mobile operators offering bulk SMS messaging services to ordinary citizens.
                      To my friends, 3-5-10 people, is this a mass mailing? HOWEVER!!!

                      Didn't you know that you can type and send an SMS on your Nokia 3110? ALL to your contacts - if memory serves, there could have been either 200 or 300 on the phone?
                      Don't you understand that typing "Clear skies over all of Spain" and sending it out isn't technically difficult?
                      Don't you know that in any messenger you can send a message to all your contacts and/or your group/chat?
                      Didn't you know that the Ukrainian Maidan was coordinated via WhatsApp?

                      Quote: Zoer
                      I'm not confusing things, I'm not confusing things!))) So you were the ones snitching. It's thanks to snitchers like you that you're hanging by a thread...

                      You're confused. If I wrote complaints, I'd be a major general. Three dope/woodpeckers are running around my posts and actively downvoting me. любые My posts are prohibited by the rules. So, if I had written them, they would have been banned, and my rating would have been restored.
                      But I am disgusted to stoop to slander - even about these woodpeckers.
                      And I'm hanging by a thread because of my lack of restraint. lol

                      Quote: Zoer
                      What nonsense!!! All the saboteurs, yes. I gave examples of penal battalions in WWII... But there will always be dissatisfied people, under any regime or system.

                      The Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926 provided for all military crimes in military time - execution.
                      Article 58 always had the upper limit of execution.
                      That is, the possibility of destroying the dissatisfied was laid down back in 1926 when the Criminal Code was created.
                      It's not me who's the evil Pinocchio - that's what the Soviet Criminal Code says.
                      What was softened was not carried out, replaced by penal battalions, etc. - this is a question of law enforcement practice of the USSR

                      Quote: Zoer
                      The list is far from complete.
                      from your list there are only 2 people who have the ability to influence political, military, financial and other public solutions.
                      And these are definitely not city deputies...
                      1. 0
                        6 October 2025 11: 50
                        Quote: your1970
                        Didn't you know that you can type an SMS on a Nokia 3110 and send it to ALL your contacts? If I remember correctly, it could have been either 200 or 300 on the phone?

                        I don't have that many text messages in my package, and I have to pay 3-4 rubles for each one... Do I need it? Or does anyone else? This is idiotic, not a mailing list...
                        Quote: your1970
                        Don't you know that in any messenger you can send a message to all your contacts and/or your group/chat?
                        Didn't you know that the Ukrainian Maidan was coordinated via WhatsApp?

                        Through Nokia 3310? laughing
                        Did you know that the Great October Revolution was led through the Cruiser Aurora? laughing
                        Quote: your1970
                        But I am disgusted to stoop to slander

                        "Of course I believe you, how can there be any doubt..." (c)
                        So, in my last conversation with you, I got four bananas for answering you. Those were probably the same idiots who downvoted you and snitched on me. Yes, yes, of course, of course. laughing
                        Quote: your1970
                        The Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926 provided for execution for all military crimes during wartime.
                        Article 58 always had the upper limit of execution.
                        That is, the possibility of destroying the dissatisfied was laid down back in 1926 when the Criminal Code was created.

                        So, for you, dissatisfied people and war criminals are the same thing? Hmm, but...
                        Quote: your1970
                        From your list, there are only 2 people who have the ability to influence political, military, financial and other government decisions.

                        Of course, of course...
                      2. 0
                        6 October 2025 12: 07
                        Quote: Zoer
                        I don’t have that many SMS messages in my package, and so I have to pay 3-4 rubles for each one.

                        Start a "Color Revolution" and spend 3 rubles on SMS? lol lol lol
                        This isn't even Jewish...

                        Quote: Zoer
                        Through Nokia 3310?

                        The conversation was about OUR law on military service and Article 3310 as the minimum possible. Naturally, WhatsApp needs mobile internet, but even under these conditions completely disabled social networks There were riots in Nepal and this is exactly what I'm trying to convey to you - they will completely cut off cell phone service to exclude Nepal.

                        Quote: Zoer
                        It's probably those same idiots who gave you the downvote who snitched on me.
                        Were your posts deleted? If not, you're confusing one thing with another. When banned, posts are deleted for violating the rules. Perhaps you used profanity or something similar. Did you receive a notification? There's always a link to the specific violation and the text.
                        Send me a screenshot if you don't mind - I honestly didn't see any swearing, rudeness or Nazism during the conversation.
                        Just curious - why?
                        And yes, I repeat - I don’t complain to the admins, I don’t see the point in it, and I’m not used to knocking.

                        Quote: Zoer
                        So, for you, dissatisfied people and war criminals are the same thing? Hmm, but...

                        Of course not - but for military personnel, one crime sometimes flowed into another, not always, but this was provided for in 1926
                        There was an opportunity
                        Quote: your1970
                        That is, the possibility of destroying the dissatisfied was laid down back in 1926 when the Criminal Code was created.
                      3. 0
                        6 October 2025 13: 01
                        Quote: your1970
                        Start a "Color Revolution" and spend 3 rubles on SMS?

                        It's hard to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if it's not there. (c)
                        Quote: your1970
                        Have your posts been deleted? If not, you're confusing the two. When banned, posts are deleted for breaking the rules.

                        They removed it, I'm not confusing anything.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Perhaps you had swearing or something similar there. Did they send you a notice? There's always a link to the specific violation and the text.

                        There was no swearing. There was a link. For trolling... Anyone could be prosecuted for that.
                        I already figured out who it was. It's a user named Paranoid. He wrote me a private message and bragged. Sorry, I shouldn't have thought it was you. But the bananas were for messaging you specifically.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Send me a screenshot if you don't mind - I honestly didn't see any swearing, rudeness or Nazism during the conversation.
                        Just curious - why?

                        For this ...
                      4. 0
                        6 October 2025 14: 14
                        Quote: Zoer
                        There was no swearing. There was a link. For trolling... Anyone could be prosecuted for that.

                        Well, if I wrote to the admins about such attacks, half the forum would be permanently banned for insulting opponents.
                        С formal point of view - the admins are right
                      5. 0
                        6 October 2025 14: 18
                        Quote: your1970
                        Well, if I wrote to the admins about such attacks, half the forum would be permanently banned for insulting opponents.

                        In general, together with you, since you're hanging there by a thread!)))
                        Quote: your1970
                        From a formal point of view, the admins are right.

                        That's true. Everything is just like Iron Felix.
                        - If you don't have a criminal record, it's not your merit...
                        Yes
                      6. 0
                        6 October 2025 14: 21
                        Quote: Zoer
                        Well, together with you, since you're hanging there by a thread!)))

                        This is yes.
                        Quote: Zoer
                        That's true. Everything is just like Iron Felix.
                        - If you don't have a criminal record, it's not your merit...

                        - - this is our fault" (c)
                      7. 0
                        6 October 2025 14: 35
                        Quote: your1970
                        This is our fault" (c)

                        Are you a communist? laughing
                      8. 0
                        6 October 2025 15: 36
                        Quote: Zoer
                        Quote: your1970
                        This is our fault" (c)

                        Are you a communist? laughing
                        does it look similar?
                        A communist - "anti-Soviet" (as they attribute to me)?!! What nonsense would that be...
                      9. 0
                        6 October 2025 16: 22
                        Quote: your1970
                        does it look similar?

                        Judging by the methods of suppressing dissent, it’s impossible to tell the difference!)))
                      10. 0
                        6 October 2025 17: 00
                        Quote: Zoer
                        Quote: your1970
                        does it look similar?

                        Judging by the methods of suppressing dissent, it’s impossible to tell the difference!)))

                        In 12 years on the site, I've been a lieutenant colonel. The average commentator becomes a marshal in five years, but Mikhan (Vitalik) became a marshal in a month...
                        This is quite enough to understand that I have nothing to do with the suppression of dissent.
                      11. 0
                        6 October 2025 17: 09
                        Quote: your1970
                        This is quite enough to understand that I have nothing to do with the suppression of dissent.

                        So we are talking about ideology, not about scale.
    6. 0
      2 October 2025 10: 18
      Quote: Hunter 2
      It's time to declare war on all events

      Of course it's time, it's long overdue, but our government won't go along with it, because we'll immediately be outlaws even for India and China, and our dad will end up in a different chair...it's sad...
      1. -1
        2 October 2025 16: 33
        Grigorich has been making the most of his geopolitical position for 30 years. He deserves credit for that. He hasn't sold out his homeland with these sidelocks.
        Better a neighbor like that than the current ones with forelocks.
        1. 0
          2 October 2025 17: 12
          Quote: Wladislaw
          Grigorich has been making the most of his geopolitical position for 30 years. For this, he deserves praise.

          That's for sure, he's squeezing everything out! The question is WHOSE interests are at stake. Okay, he didn't sell it to those with sidelocks. That's only because he's been squeezing and still squeezing the oligarchs' money into his own pockets. The results are there for all to see.
      2. -2
        3 October 2025 02: 18
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        Of course it's time, it's long overdue, but our government will not agree to this, because We will immediately be outlawed even for India and China.

        It won't work. Only for other reasons, I think. I'll have to recall my relatives from abroad, and take many other unpopular measures for myself, my beloved ones.
      3. -1
        3 October 2025 10: 26
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        Of course it's time, it's long overdue, but our government won't go along with it, because we'll immediately be outlawed even for India and China.

        Since when are we talking about cabbage soup and borscht?
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        and dad will sit on another chair...sad....

        He has no other chairs left after the unrest in Belarus in 2020.
    7. +1
      2 October 2025 10: 46
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The SVO can continue indefinitely, we risk passing this problem on not only to our children but also to our grandchildren...

      You're overly optimistic. The unplanned budget deficit for 2025 and the planned one for 2026 are food for thought.
    8. +2
      2 October 2025 15: 57
      Quote: Hunter 2
      It's time to declare war on all events and start fighting

      The question of how to do this is not considered due to its insignificance!? :)))
    9. +2
      2 October 2025 16: 14
      A good slogan for the year 1941, but not for 2025.
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    2. 13+
      2 October 2025 06: 22
      But the press secretary recently came up with a gem about how there is plenty of everything in the SVO zone. am
    3. -2
      3 October 2025 01: 30
      Ivan_6(Ivan)

      A simple example... But at night, Baba Yaga arrives and destroys everything... For 1316 days and nights of this war, there is no alternative, no alternative to the Mavics, no way to shoot down the bony one...

      Baba-Yogis - a large, convenient, low-speed target. It can be shot down with a machine gun. There's plenty of video, including at night. The issue is providing night vision optics.
      alternatives to Mavics No, and never will be. This is the mass market leader in optics and electronics. China sells to everyone. Russia and the USSR were never leaders in optics and electronics. A simple Mavic costs 150 rubles. If we make our own, it will be 1500 rubles. Both need to be purchased. What's wrong with the Chinese Mavic?
      Shortage of ATVs, loaf is our everything
      How can an ATV replace a loaf of bread? I don't think it's any more stealthy or much faster, and it only carries two soldiers.
      The enemy is not surrendering, moreover, he is also inspired, this is evident from the prisoners and interceptions
      Well, can you send me a link with his enthusiasm for the positions?
      1. +2
        3 October 2025 01: 51
        Have you personally tried to shoot down Yaga with a machine gun?
        An ATV is faster than a loaf of bread and more agile... A better chance of escaping a kamikaze attack. A link to the enemy's mood? Could you send me a screenshot of the interception? I'm not allowed, unfortunately... According to the birds, you could have mastered everything in three years. The comments here are more about the government's impotence or unwillingness to develop its own industry.
        1. -1
          3 October 2025 02: 10
          Have you personally tried to shoot down Yaga with a machine gun?
          No, I haven't tried it. But, again, it's not as difficult as high-speed and smaller FPVs.
          There are more chances to escape from a kamikaze,
          It's very debatable. And they're not a replacement for each other. More passable - yes.
          It would have been possible to master everything in three years regarding birds. Here you have comments rather in the powerlessness or unwillingness of the authorities to develop their own industry.
          We can't master everything and replace China. But we have our own Geranium-3, UMPK, Lancet, Zala, Kub, and FPV. Probing satellites have gone into orbit. We're updating GPS satellites with more advanced ones, we've launched a bunch of secret ones, and this December we'll start deploying our own Starlink—the factory is ready, and they're working on lithography and their own boards. But
          The enemy's Mavic will have better boards and optics, and we'll have our own, freshly developed one? That's why we buy it.
          Should I send a screenshot of the interception?
          They screw it into your ears and work
  6. 26+
    2 October 2025 05: 06
    It's high time to end all of this, though no one knows how. Winnie the Pooh is stuck. The author is right that the conflict has turned into waves, and the water is starting to splash around. Ukraine has clung to its territories and has no intention of giving them up, and we, too, have clung to "our" territories and have no intention of giving them up either. The original goals remain a mystery to me, and all the explanations only make things more confusing. A diplomatic stalemate is emerging: neither side wants to be the loser, and offering the other anything—well, we've lost, but at least here's some candy—is also impossible. Strategically, we're also reaching a stalemate: one side is holding its own, but exploiting the other's weaknesses in counterattacks. The other side seems to be leading the way, but lacks the strength to deliver a decisive blow. In reality, we're simply ruining each other's faces, with no practical benefit for either side. A school fight between two losers, where all the countries will come to watch and cheer, but whoever wins will still end up a loser. Both sides are scraping together strength, both are bragging, both are raking in money wherever they can find it, a perfect mirror image. The pro-Western world rejoices; it's like a woman flirting with two guys who are beating each other up for her, only to soon get bored and leave with a third...
    1. -12
      2 October 2025 09: 37
      Quote from turembo
      The original goals still remain a mystery to me, and all explanations only make it more confusing.

      So, those were the West's initial goals. And in response, it's merely an attempt to defend itself, having been firmly cornered and lacking the strength to fight back against the ENTIRE WEST. From this perspective, the reactions, attempts to reach agreement, cautious countermeasures, attempts to find allies, and all the propaganda are understandable.
      In the eyes of the West, Russia was a victim, a "paper tiger," and they still believe it. They are surprised and angered by its resilience, as the plan was to bend Russia and force it to surrender even at the moment it was disconnected from Swift. They were counting on the collective power of Western countries, on their financial and legislative leverage. But over time, the West is also weakening, and now they urgently need a victim, not just for profit, but for survival.
    2. -1
      2 October 2025 12: 43
      The best thing to happen in my opinion is that Russia gives back all of the territory of Ukraine in 1991 (don't curse for a moment, I'll finish talking), in exchange for which Ukraine's elections, police and army are directly under Russian control, and Russian bases are established throughout Ukraine. Well, that makes a lot of sense. Ukraine gets its territory, and Russia takes Ukraine all the way to Lviv.Only then can we propose options that, in case of danger, Russia would annex Ukrainian provinces. In the current situation, you would take Ukrainian territory and a smaller and more nervous Ukraine would remain.
      1. +7
        2 October 2025 12: 47
        Ideally, this would be absolutely wonderful, but for now, we have what we have. After all, when the USSR collapsed, everyone should have been told, "Go back to the borders you entered," but instead they heard, "Take as much power as you want." And this is one of the reasons for the large number of territorial conflicts in the vast expanses of the former USSR.
        1. +7
          2 October 2025 12: 54
          Yes, well, I think the Russian government is also acting a bit strangely, as it did in Syria: it's unclear whether it's pro-Western or anti-Western. And as a result, we have the current stalemate.
      2. +1
        2 October 2025 13: 30
        "It's very similar to the Americans' actions in Afghanistan in recent years... or the French in Indochina. Everyone knows how that ended..."
        1. +1
          2 October 2025 13: 35
          Yes, Russia must provide for the possibility of annexing Ukrainian territory in case of danger.
      3. +2
        2 October 2025 13: 34
        There's logic to this. But it's too dangerous for Russia. Control could be seized. Loyal politicians are bought off. The West will always be able to offer more, no matter how much Russia gives, simply because they're more numerous and richer.
        1. +1
          2 October 2025 13: 38
          Yes, Russia should include such options in the peace agreement, for example: if Ukraine orders the withdrawal of Russian troops, the eastern regions of Ukraine will be automatically annexed by Russia, or something like that.
  7. 21+
    2 October 2025 05: 18
    What does this mean for ordinary citizens?

    Inflation is the unbridled rise in prices; shrinkflation is a decrease in product volume with the same packaging; stealthflation is a decrease in product quality with the same volume; bankruptcy is debt overload like drug addiction. And then there are higher taxes and huge fines...
    1. +7
      2 October 2025 07: 16
      Inflation is the unbridled rise in prices; shrinkflation is a decrease in product volume with the same packaging; stealthflation is a decrease in product quality with the same volume; bankruptcy is debt overload like drug addiction. And then there are higher taxes and huge fines...
      This is already the case, it will continue like this, we will return to the nineties again.
      1. 11+
        2 October 2025 07: 26
        Quote: Alexey 1970
        This is how it is, it will continue like this, and we will return to the nineties again.

        In the 90s, there was only inflation and crime. BUT! In the 90s, there was at least some kind of police force; there was a staffing shortage, but it was quite tolerable. Today, the police are a pitiful remnant of the 90s police force. And they're planning on building a police state? They've passed a ton of prohibitive laws, but who's going to enforce them? Cameras? My neighborhood used to have four police departments and a district headquarters. Each had its own duty station, a duty shift with a car, plus traffic police, patrol and special security patrols! Today, in this same neighborhood, where the population has only grown, there are two! departments (not divisions)! and two duty stations with two duty shifts! Half of the meager staff of detectives, district police officers, and IVF officers are women! A rise in crime is inevitable, but there's no one to fight it. The 90s will seem like paradise...
        1. man
          0
          2 October 2025 09: 31
          The 90s will seem like paradise...
          This is too much... at least now there is no hunger... for now...
          1. +2
            2 October 2025 10: 38
            Were the 90s really that bad? Maybe someone benefits from having their reign be more profitable, at least compared to the 90s. After all, that's his expression about the "wild nineties."
            1. man
              +2
              2 October 2025 10: 55
              Quote: Gardamir
              Were the 90s really that bad? Maybe someone benefits from having their reign be more profitable, at least compared to the 90s. After all, that's his expression about the "wild nineties."

              You are probably young smile I remember that time well... a kilogram of butter or meat costing the average salary in the country...
              Gorky Street (now Tverskaya), converted into a market... citizens sold everything in sight... irons, frying pans, pots, homemade jam, light bulbs... to feed the children... I can tell you a lot...
              1. 10+
                2 October 2025 11: 06
                Yes, no, maybe we're the same age. I was born when Nikita was still in charge. I'm just comparing today with then. Back then, there was the transition from socialism to capitalism, and any transition is very difficult. But now that we're under capitalism, remember what the current generation said? doomed Living under liberalism. And suddenly, the 2026-2028 budget includes increased fines. That means a significant portion of the budget will be filled by someone who doesn't sigh properly, immediately facing a fine. And it's worse than it was in the 1990s.
                Moreover, street trading is now prohibited, and not everyone can supplement their family budget.
                1. man
                  0
                  2 October 2025 11: 21
                  That means a significant portion of the budget will be replenished by someone who doesn't sigh properly, and they'll immediately be fined. And it's worse than it was in the 1990s.
                  This is certainly vile... and in this regard, things have really gotten worse... much worse... but still, there is no hunger... Someone said that people can forgive everything except the hunger of their children...
                  1. +9
                    2 October 2025 11: 31
                    Not quite right. Yeltsin immediately threw it in boiling water, and of course, he didn't like it. But today's version simmers slowly, and we're ready to eat. They're already sprinkling us with spices, and we're happy and making noise.
                    1. man
                      +3
                      2 October 2025 23: 27
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      Not quite right. Yeltsin immediately threw it in boiling water, and of course, he didn't like it. But today's version simmers slowly, and we're ready to eat. They're already sprinkling us with spices, and we're happy and making noise.

                      I understand you... I'm in a really bad mood myself... I'm afraid we'll continue this dialogue... we'll go too far... I just got another warning the other day, and VO has already become a part of my life...
                  2. +2
                    3 October 2025 06: 03
                    Quote: mann
                    but still there is no hunger...

                    And who's rummaging around the bins and fighting over expired goods? Or am I seeing them there, and here they're just wrapping up the fish?

                    The 90s were characterized by people buying American chicken legs and pink salmon by the boxload. It was a time of vegetable gardens, potatoes, and crab salad on the table. It was also a time of opportunity for independent people. I graduated from college in 93 and quickly earned enough money to buy an apartment and a car. Money was literally made out of thin air back then, and anyone could do it.

                    In the 1990s, there wasn't such a gap between rich and poor. But in the 2000s, big business and dozens of billionaires emerged. A small class of super-rich "new Russians" emerged, along with a vast stratum of poor and "new poor" (teachers, doctors, engineers).
                    There has been a gap in access to quality education, healthcare and other social benefits.

                    The economy is currently cooling and slowing. These difficult times are being exacerbated by the war with our neighbors. Prices are rising, as are taxes. Life is becoming more difficult. But at the same time, the number of billionaires is growing. And the existing billionaires are getting richer! Please tell me, at whose expense is this small group getting richer? After all, according to the law of conservation of energy, if there's an increase in one place, there must be a decrease in another. And how does this contribute to the cohesion that they talk about at the top?
                2. man
                  +1
                  2 October 2025 23: 37
                  Yes, no, maybe we're the same age. I was born when Nikita was still sitting in the top chair.
                  Most likely... perhaps I'm a little older... I remember that the military men, my father's colleagues, were cursing Khrushchev so much in our kitchen that when I saw his portrait in the primer with the sycophantic inscription "fighter for peace" and so on, I asked my father in surprise: "But isn't Khrushchev an enemy of the people?" smile
              2. +3
                3 October 2025 02: 31
                Quote: mann
                Citizens sold everything in sight... irons, frying pans, pots, homemade products, light bulbs...

                Back then, I remember, it was common practice to pay wages in irons and light bulbs, i.e., in the form of products from companies that owed their workers money.
                1. man
                  0
                  3 October 2025 09: 14
                  Quote: MBRBS
                  Quote: mann
                  Citizens sold everything in sight... irons, frying pans, pots, homemade products, light bulbs...

                  Back then, I remember, it was common practice to pay wages in irons and light bulbs, i.e., in the form of products from companies that owed their workers money.

                  Yes, that's how it was... then I realized what the expression "both funny and sad" means....
            2. +7
              2 October 2025 11: 25
              Were the 90s really that bad?

              I agree with you 100%!!
              There was at least one person who expressed this idea)
              1. +5
                2 October 2025 17: 38
                I'll tell you about myself. I worked at a power plant and was paid regularly. Four times a month: salary, advance payment, performance bonus, and insurance. Only starting in the mid-90s did they first eliminate the insurance, then the bonus, and combine salary with the advance payment. And in 1998, they stopped paying altogether. We were stuck with nothing for over two months. Smolenergo opened stores where you could buy things using your salary.
          2. 11+
            2 October 2025 12: 01
            Quote: mann
            At least there's no hunger now... for now...

            We haven't gone downhill yet, who knows where we'll end up...
            1. +5
              2 October 2025 16: 18
              By the way, I found a video, the Vremya program, July 1990. No one back then could have imagined what would happen two years later.
            2. man
              0
              2 October 2025 23: 59
              Quote: Puncher
              Quote: mann
              At least there's no hunger now... for now...

              We haven't gone downhill yet, who knows where we'll end up...

              For me, such uncertainty is worse than the abyss itself... sad
            3. +2
              3 October 2025 02: 43
              Quote: Puncher
              We haven't gone downhill yet, who knows where we'll end up...

              One thing is certain: we won't be living the high life (meaning, the common people won't be living it up) for a VERY long time. Rebuilding Donbas, as well as the country's defense potential, will consume all available resources. We'll survive, of course. The main thing is to avoid war. I mean, not a nuclear war.
    2. man
      +2
      2 October 2025 09: 27
      Quote: Puncher
      What does this mean for ordinary citizens?

      Inflation is the unbridled rise in prices; shrinkflation is a decrease in product volume with the same packaging; stealthflation is a decrease in product quality with the same volume; bankruptcy is debt overload like drug addiction. And then there are higher taxes and huge fines...

      But the number of billionaires is growing...
      1. +7
        2 October 2025 09: 31
        Quote: mann

        But the number of billionaires is growing ..

        The 2024 record has been broken, now it is not 125, but 146 according to Forbes.
        1. man
          +5
          2 October 2025 09: 33
          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: mann

          But the number of billionaires is growing ..

          The 2024 record has been broken, now it is not 125, but 146 according to Forbes.

          I guess I'm a cynical and ungrateful person... but for some reason this doesn't make me happy at all...
          1. 10+
            2 October 2025 09: 34
            Quote: mann
            I guess I'm a cynical and ungrateful person... but for some reason this doesn't make me happy at all...

            It doesn't make me happy either, but the guarantor's entourage is flourishing and fragrant.
            1. 12+
              2 October 2025 12: 00
              Quote: lis-ik
              It doesn't make me happy either, but the guarantor's entourage is flourishing and fragrant.

              Why shouldn't they do it if they've come across such kind people, unlike in seedy Nepal, where, in response to the ban on social media (for making fun of the outrageous rich kids bragging about the wealth their parents stole), the people gave the local thieves a good beating.
  8. 27+
    2 October 2025 05: 33
    1) What does this mean for ordinary citizens? Obviously—rising prices, the closure or downsizing of entire industries (like coal), bans on everything and anything, countless death notices for those who fought in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and shelling for those who live relatively close to Ukraine.
    2) Risks of a global war with Europe? So far, practically nonexistent. Using Russians as useful natives for a local war against Europe is Trump's pipe dream, but from Russia's perspective, this is too foolish even for our "liberal patriots" (though they are always capable of surprises). The style of our "geopoliticians" is more likely to provoke tension in Europe in the hopes of achieving peace in Ukraine. And for Europe, continuing the endless war in Ukraine is precisely what is most beneficial. The risks of such a clash will likely increase precisely after the ceasefire.
    But the main thing is the complete current futility of the entire undertaking (the SVO). Let's assume we continue fighting in the current format for another year or year and a half. We'll lose another 200, become completely impoverished financially, and liberate the entire Donbas (or rather, the deserted ruins of what used to be Donbas). What then?
    1. 16+
      2 October 2025 08: 35
      So, what is next ?

      I don't want to be a prophet...
      but, looking at those who lead us, I don’t see a silver lining...
      1. +6
        2 October 2025 08: 58
        but, looking at those who lead us, I don’t see a silver lining...

        There is an article nearby - "This is the kind of fleet we have..."
        In fact, there is only one question: how long will the "incompetent" and loyal ones command?
        1. 13+
          2 October 2025 09: 12
          It's a system. Others simply can't get to the very top.
        2. +2
          3 October 2025 02: 51
          How long will the "armless" and loyal ones command?

          A long, long time. As long as there's cheap bread on the shelves of Pyaterochka, everything's fine. Our people are incredibly patient, a real gift for any government. Although... there are also 1917s :))
    2. man
      11+
      2 October 2025 09: 44
      And for Europe, the continuation of the endless war in Ukraine is very beneficial.
      It's profitable ALL, except for us and the residents of Ukraine.
      And don't be fooled, the Indians and Chinese are also absolutely delighted... sad
    3. -9
      2 October 2025 12: 06
      We'll declare victory and wrap up our campaign as soon as we reach the Dnieper.
      1. +2
        3 October 2025 03: 01
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        We'll declare victory and wrap up our campaign as soon as we reach the Dnieper.

        We're already at the Dnieper. We can turn back, basically. Odessa seems out of our league. Then Kherson wouldn't be particularly necessary. But here's the rub – it's enshrined in the Constitution, just like Zaporizhzhia! I don't think Putin himself is too happy about this right now, and backing down is scary. So for now, we'll fight, and see where things take us. The main thing is to avoid war. War with NATO. That's the red line, beyond which lies certain death.
        1. -2
          3 October 2025 08: 07
          We need mostly the Dnieper, up to Kyiv approximately, but Kherson itself is not needed from a military point of view at all.
    4. +9
      2 October 2025 16: 08
      Quote: Belisarius
      1) We'll put in another 200, become completely financially impoverished, and liberate the entire Donbass (or rather, the deserted ruins of what used to be Donbass). And then what?

      …we will hold a parade with awards and a procession with the singing of psalms.
  9. 23+
    2 October 2025 05: 35
    I've noticed the social side of the SVO, so to speak, how pessimism has begun to grow among the participants here at VO... I'd say the situation is worsening on the civilian front; people are becoming increasingly indifferent to the war, which is evident in the various humanitarian aid efforts; fewer and fewer people are participating. Of course, I could be wrong, but this is a fact that's already striking to me... And if this is for objective reasons, then the enemy sees it too, which is why they're talking about their victory...
    1. 25+
      2 October 2025 05: 51
      And during the entire war... I never once saw any help from our large companies... Kindergartens, schools, grandparents helped... The whole world, as they say, especially in 22-23... but not once did representatives of big business come to us and so on... Although, what would it cost to buy LUKOIL 100 ATVs, or Mavics, not one by one, to announce collections... Ukrainians It's offensive to watch how everyone there was helped by show business, by everyone from young to old, and so on... But here, our entire cultural elite immediately turned away in shame, as if not noticing their own...
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      2. +2
        3 October 2025 01: 42
        And why haven't our 146 billionaires voluntarily donated at least 10 or 20% of their wealth to the front? Don't Putin and his advisers understand that it's time to stop building stadiums, churches, and other particularly unnecessary facilities? They need to ramp up weapons production, especially drones, and train operators for them. That's what martial law is for.
  10. 0
    2 October 2025 06: 07
    Trump's peacekeeping efforts have failed. Hence the US President's irritation. But what's important isn't Trump's words themselves. What's important is the response they received from those around him. It's just a matter of company. Trump nodded toward his military-industrial complex. But we haven't been clear on our rhetoric from the very beginning. What's more dangerous for us in Ukraine? Ukraine as a NATO member? Or as a country facing a resurgence of Nazism? Then what does "decommunization" have to do with it? They've mixed the sour with the bland.
  11. 16+
    2 October 2025 06: 17
    Nothing new. Such a development was to be expected due to the unwillingness or inability of our bigwigs to work for results.
    1. +6
      2 October 2025 11: 21
      unwillingness or inability of our bigwigs to work for results.

      It depends on what result was set as a goal, and by whom it was set.
  12. 17+
    2 October 2025 06: 21
    Although Medinsky said we'd fight for another 20 years, war fatigue among the population remains. Societal fatigue increases with the absence of clear victories, mounting losses, and the lack of specific war goals. In the 18th century, there was no internet or mass media, and people weren't spoiled by the comforts of the modern world. Therefore, it was possible to wage war for 100 years. In today's world, this is hardly possible without provoking public discontent.
    1. 10+
      2 October 2025 08: 32
      Even though Medinsky said that we would fight for another 20 years,

      The Medinskys themselves do not fight...
      and we are fighting, but there are very few of us left...
      and when, periodically, information appears about complete chaos there, then...
    2. 13+
      2 October 2025 09: 15
      It's not just the lack of victories, but growing irritation from the servile words about Trump, news about the growing income of the oligarchy, constant "gestures of goodwill," the continued stable trade with the enemy, and so on and so forth, while ordinary people, against this backdrop, continue to impoverish and perish.
  13. 10+
    2 October 2025 07: 02
    A line from the film "Antikiller" comes to mind here: "Why are we always late? Because they're at war, and we're at work."
  14. 13+
    2 October 2025 07: 05
    What's to come with this policy?
  15. 27+
    2 October 2025 07: 45
    Why did it even have to start? Who couldn't live in peace? The pretty reports and pictures on Channel One gave a false impression of the country's power, but in reality, they're not ready for anything! So that's what we got. Who was there screaming, "We'll bend everyone over now?" There were some like that here too. How many more people must die before all this stops?
    1. 18+
      2 October 2025 09: 20
      History is repeating itself, in terms of its outcome for Russia, from the First World War. But some users on VO often point out that D. Peskov himself stated that their ideal is "Russia under Nicholas II." They are following the right path of this leader. They seem to have forgotten how this leader and the country ended under his "wise" rule.
      1. man
        +6
        2 October 2025 10: 44
        Quote: Enotovich
        History is repeating itself, in terms of its outcome for Russia, from the First World War. But some users on VO often point out that D. Peskov himself stated that their ideal is "Russia under Nicholas II." They are following the right path of this leader. They seem to have forgotten how this leader and the country ended under his "wise" rule.

        That was in the beginning... now Stalin is remembered more often... there's an advertisement on Channel One for Konchalovsky's series about brilliant Lenin and Stalin, who saved the country... I, of course, agree with this... but I admit I was taken aback when I heard this from Konchalovsky on TV request smile
        1. +6
          2 October 2025 11: 42
          Quote: mann
          That was in the beginning... now Stalin is remembered more often... there's an ad on Channel One for Konchalovsky's series about the genius Lenin and Stalin who saved the country... I agree with that, of course... but I must admit I was taken aback when I heard it from Konchalovsky on TV

          Yet another manipulation of public consciousness. From those who are anti-communists to the core.
          1. man
            +1
            2 October 2025 23: 46
            Yet another manipulation of public consciousness. From those who are anti-communists to the core.
            Yeah, I was thinking about that too... I was struck by Konchalovsky's hypocrisy... I was once again convinced of the terrible power money has under capitalism... sad
            1. 0
              3 October 2025 20: 37
              As if under socialism no one wavered from the party line. And if anyone did, it was entirely selfless. We shouldn't attribute all human shortcomings solely to the capitalist system. They are universal.
            2. +1
              4 October 2025 02: 07
              Life was always easy this way. My butt was always sensitive to the changing mood and signaled when it was time to change my shoes.
        2. +3
          2 October 2025 17: 43
          These people lived well under any government. They simply sensed a source of profit from the Mikhalkovs and Konchalovskys... Before that, they vilified them... But they also profited from them.
          1. man
            0
            2 October 2025 23: 52
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            These people lived well under any government. They simply sensed a source of profit from the Mikhalkovs and Konchalovskys... Before that, they vilified them... But they also profited from them.

            But they are talented people... and not poor... request
    2. man
      +3
      2 October 2025 10: 36
      The mistake happened earlier... when, after Crimea, apparently to divert attention, they went into Donbass... blood was spilled for the first time... then they came to their senses... the Minsk agreements... Western female dogs got the Kremlin... we couldn't abandon the people of Donetsk... we started helping... but what else could we do... and so it all started spinning... sad The intelligence sycophants were giving false information...they sent troops...it seemed like a chain of coincidences... request sad
      1. +6
        2 October 2025 11: 08
        In 20 or 21, Shoigu spoke about how we needed to develop Siberia, build two or three cities with populations of over a million, but where would we get the people? He was asking questions into thin air.
        They should have just taken all those residents of Donbas or whatever and resettled them there, new cities, everything new, a fairy tale! No, now there's ruins, so many people died. So it must have gotten better!
        1. man
          +2
          2 October 2025 11: 12
          They should have just taken all those residents of Donbas or whatever and resettled them there, new cities, everything new, a fairy tale! No, now there's ruins, so many people died. So it must have gotten better!
          The trouble is that "good thoughts come later" sad
        2. +7
          2 October 2025 11: 43
          Quote: Vadim S
          In 20 or 21, Shoigu spoke about the need to develop Siberia.

          Which was just another bit of empty pre-election chatter.
    3. 0
      2 October 2025 14: 11
      No one expected such a volume of aid from the EU and the US, which is why they started. And without that aid, the last caches near Lviv would be blown up right now.
      1. +4
        2 October 2025 16: 14
        Quote: Anglorussian
        No one expected such a volume of aid from the EU and the US, which is why they started. And without that aid, the last caches near Lviv would be blown up right now.

        ...Who's "nobody"? :))) ...And if there were no winter in Russia and the Law of Universal Gravitation was abolished, then, well, it would be awesome. :)
        1. 0
          2 October 2025 16: 36
          These are the people who planned the operation. They thought the West would chat and then go away.
        2. +1
          3 October 2025 20: 55
          So at first it wasn't there. Then it went illegal. Then more and more. Little by little. They gave it time to warm up. And how much fun it was. Oh, oh, oh. They're selling all the written-off junk to the Ukrainians. Oh, my God. So many smiley faces were laughing. By the way, where did they go? I mean the smiley faces. Now these same people are whining about having to fight with all of Europe. Shut up, sadness. Shut up. They'll ban you.
    4. +2
      2 October 2025 22: 05
      Quote: Vadim S
      There were some like that sitting here too.

      Why in the past tense? Haven't visited the "News" section in a while? And even in these comments, certain characters do appear (though only a little).
    5. 0
      3 October 2025 01: 41
      Vadim S (Nifalim) Why was it necessary to start at all?
      B-1 have already trained over Ukraine, we practiced approaches and turns.
    6. 0
      3 October 2025 03: 16
      Quote: Vadim S
      Why did it even have to start?

      Hmmm... I would put the question this way: "Why were long pauses necessary if we already started in 2014?"
      Or so:
      In 2022, they could have simply recognized the LPR and DPR and formed a military-political alliance with them. Crimea, in fact, didn't necessarily have to be annexed to Russia; a Union would have been sufficient, too. In short, there were other options, but we Russians don't look for easy ways!
  16. 21+
    2 October 2025 07: 48
    I think that those whose brains haven't been corrupted by the "zombie box" know perfectly well how to end all of this, but they remain silent.... out of harm's way....
    1. +1
      2 October 2025 11: 16
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      I think that those whose brains haven't been corrupted by the "zombie box" know perfectly well how to end all of this, but they remain silent.... out of harm's way....

      There's another option. "Reset everything" and start with a clean slate, so to speak—"turn the chessboard over." It's certainly an overkill, but it's an option.
      1. +3
        2 October 2025 16: 15
        Quote: Adrey
        Reset everything and start from scratch

        … How is that !? :)))
        1. +2
          2 October 2025 20: 55
          The whole world will fall into ruins and we will immigrate to Mars, that's probably it. request
          1. +2
            2 October 2025 22: 12
            Quote from AdAstra
            The whole world will fall into ruins and we will immigrate to Mars, that's probably it.

            That's right. Except for immigration. It looks scary, but if you put all emotions aside, it's a possible option. True, everyone will completely forget Herostratus. request
          2. 0
            5 October 2025 20: 18
            If the whole world falls into ruin, there will be no one to immigrate.
        2. +1
          2 October 2025 22: 10
          Quote: Chack Wessel
          … How is that !? :)))

          We know how. "Take it all and... not divide it." Make it so there are no winners or losers. Only survivors...
  17. +1
    2 October 2025 07: 50
    The SVO will continue for a long time


    Question for the author: Is the Special Military Operation against the actual NATO and EU forces, which are in one way or another participating in military actions in Ukraine, still a SVO or something else?
    It's already clear that Ukraine has no industry of its own, no sovereign budget, and, in fact, no country. So, is what's happening in this theater of operations still a military conflict or something else entirely?
    1. 12+
      2 October 2025 09: 52
      Why are you asking the author these questions? Does the author make any political decisions? What world do you even live in? Are you aware that many media outlets write the word "war" like this when it doesn't refer to specific historical events? Do you know why? Because some websites that used this word were blocked for, as the Prosecutor General's Office explained, "inaccurately presenting the essence of the ongoing military operation." We are conducting a special military operation.
      1. 0
        2 October 2025 10: 58
        Why are you asking these questions to the author?

        I'm interested in your opinion on this issue.
        I don't require you to use a forbidden word... :-)
  18. +6
    2 October 2025 08: 01
    It's all about how much margin of safety we have and how long we can last...
    1. +1
      3 October 2025 11: 20
      We will last for a long time, but who and what will we be after?
      1. 0
        3 October 2025 11: 21
        We will last for a long time, but who and what will we be after?
        And that too ...
  19. 16+
    2 October 2025 08: 01
    It's a complete mess. But the most annoying thing is that there are no signs of any positive changes, either from the top or from the grassroots level.
  20. -29
    2 October 2025 08: 10
    They've created a panic, it's disgusting to read. Soldiers are attacking at the LBS, but in the rear there's panic, a disgrace... Under Stalin, panickers were shot!
    1. 23+
      2 October 2025 08: 55
      Quote: marc75
      Under Stalin, panic-mongers were shot!

      And under Stalin, saboteurs, spies, wreckers, and embezzlers were executed, regardless of their marshal (!!!) rank...
      And to such figures as Chubais Trotsky, they pierced his head with an ice pick...
      And the panic-mongers were shot at the front...
      1. +3
        2 October 2025 10: 18
        Quote: ROSS 42
        And the panic-mongers were shot at the front.

        Not only that - after the introduction of a state of siege in Moscow, 1080 people were shot on the spot "for agitation and panic" without trial or investigation.
        It's not much - but it was...
        Quote: ROSS 42
        embezzlers, regardless of their marshal (!!!) ranks...

        The ratio of executed generals-thieves to the total number of generals executed during the Great Patriotic War is higher than the ratio of those executed for desertion to the total number of those convicted of desertion.
        Stalin understood that a thief general was more dangerous than an ordinary deserter.
      2. +5
        2 October 2025 16: 17
        And, by the way, under Stalin, money was not invested in American treasuries.
    2. -1
      3 October 2025 04: 26
      Quote: marc75
      The soldiers are attacking the LBS, but in the rear there is panic and disgrace...

      Why the sudden panic? Brainstorming is going on here, all sorts of proposals are being put forward, the work is in full swing!
      I will repeat my key proposals:
      1) The Supreme Commander-in-Chief announces from a high podium that Russia is unable to resist the monstrous military and financial aid that the West is providing to Nazi Ukraine. Unable to resist conventional Resources are key! We simply don't have the money for this—the West has done its best, they've robbed us, well done! But we won't stand idly by while the Kyiv regime commits crimes! Russians don't give up! Therefore, we are putting the economy on a war footing, with all seriousness and determination. Further:
      2) Russia will prepare for the worst, namely, a global conflict with NATO, in the most serious way, namely:
      3) Russia withdraws from the Treaty on the Ceasefire of Nuclear Weapons Tests in the Air, Sea, and Space, further:
      4) We're transporting captured NATO equipment to the Novaya Zemlya test site, preparing a test field for testing our entire range of nuclear weapons. What if they really are rusty? At the same time, we're building fallout shelters across the country, on a planned and emergency basis. We're conducting civil defense exercises regularly.
      5) We'll start testing with small, kiloton-sized charges, gradually moving on to more powerful ones. Everything is legal. And let them thank us for testing over our own territory, in the air, and not in space, where we have every right to do so.

      So, MAYBE after this, Europe won't be pouring money into Ukraine, but into its own security? Will they understand that Ukraine isn't protecting them, but is dragging them down with it? And if they don't, we won't lose much. We're already losing more than we gain.
      1. +1
        3 October 2025 08: 40
        Quote: MBRBS
        So, MAYBE after this, Europe will pour money into its own security, not into Ukraine?

        And if it doesn't help, what's the plan? Because, to sum it up, you're simply proposing a nuclear explosion on Novaya Zemlya and that's it... Personally, I think it's highly unlikely to help, and if they continue, and we don't deploy nuclear weapons, that would be a very "brown" line...
        1. +2
          3 October 2025 12: 50
          It depends on how you look at it... For now they see that the "paper tiger" is afraid to even conduct tests.
        2. 0
          3 October 2025 13: 49
          2 Level Advisor Well, I wrote that if they don't react, we have nothing to lose. We're simply testing our nuclear weapons on their equipment. At the same time, we're checking our arsenal. And right now, there are no signs that Russia is preparing for a nuclear attack. So what do they have to fear now? They will continue to supply all types of weapons to Ukraine.
  21. +1
    2 October 2025 08: 28
    "The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?"

    Putin spoke in the sense that the war in Ukraine is being waged for the future of the Russian Federation.
    If this war is not won, what future can there be for the Russian Federation and its population?
    1. 11+
      2 October 2025 09: 49
      "Putin spoke along these lines..."
      Putin said a lot of things laughing
      1. +6
        2 October 2025 16: 22
        I remembered the proverb "words are silver, silence is gold" and "if you keep silent you'll be considered smart."
        … Oh, and here’s another one: “My tongue is my enemy.”
        :)
    2. +3
      2 October 2025 16: 19
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar

      Putin spoke in the sense that the war in Ukraine is being waged for the future of the Russian Federation.
      If this war is not won, what future can there be for the Russian Federation and its population?

      What is the future if I am possessed?
  22. -10
    2 October 2025 08: 35
    Don't slander! Putin represents stability, calm, and confidence in the future.
    Putin is the president of the world!!!!
    1. +1
      2 October 2025 19: 59
      If he is the President of the world, why is the SVO still going on?
    2. +7
      2 October 2025 20: 57
      I would like him to be the president of Russia and for Russians.
    3. +1
      3 October 2025 04: 31
      Olejik As they used to say not long ago: "Let Putin rule forever, as long as there is no war, and so that things are not like in Ukraine." wink
  23. 10+
    2 October 2025 08: 50
    The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?

    "Save Russia, it's perishing in the hands of an immoral old man. His stroke of the pen decides the fate of millions."
    This is what State Duma Chairman M. Rodzianko said about the possessed Rasputin. What did you think?

    There are fewer and fewer reasons for optimism...
  24. BAI
    14+
    2 October 2025 08: 56
    The SVO will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?

    First and foremost, this means the death of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people (ours). So, we're also heading for a demographic crisis.
    And one more thing. The author didn't mention that one disabled person, unable to work, "takes" three healthy people out of the economy to support and maintain them. Where do they get these people?
    1. +8
      2 October 2025 09: 38
      Quote: BAI
      That is, we are still facing a demographic crisis here.

      It's too late to prepare for it. It's already raging. So much so that the government has classified demographic statistics.
      https://topwar.ru/265033-vymirajuschaja-rossija-rosstat-prekratil-publikaciju-aktualnyh-dannyh-po-rozhdaemosti-i-smertnosti-iz-za-rekordnogo-padenija-rozhdaemosti.html?ysclid=mg91mzcaiy766172941
      1. +9
        2 October 2025 09: 59
        The demographic situation is such that the government is ready to hand over the country to "migrant workers." Moreover, they're seriously proposing to import Indians and blacks. And it will only get worse, as a huge number of young men are at the front and are excluded from economic life, while the number of dead and disabled is classified, but undoubtedly high.
    2. 0
      2 October 2025 09: 55
      Where to get people?

      The same place they're taking them now. They're importing them from Central Asia and handing out passports to maintain the population at about 145 million.
      The only question is that the new citizens have not studied the history of Kievan Rus, and for them Kyiv is not the mother of Russian cities.
      1. +5
        2 October 2025 10: 52
        Cool. Samarkand is the mother of cities...
    3. 0
      2 October 2025 12: 16
      There are fewer men now, but there are plenty of women, someone will find a replacement
  25. +2
    2 October 2025 08: 58
    Russia failed to achieve a quick victory over the Ukrainian army.


    It's better to clarify here that NATO, represented by the PMC "Ukraine," is in control of the army.
    and it's rightly said that we hit the boxer's glove, not the boxer himself (the boxer is NATO, the glove is "Outskirts"), so it's hard to expect a quick victory with such tactics, you'll most likely run out of steam yourself
  26. 14+
    2 October 2025 09: 11
    A deterioration in living standards and death for ordinary people, while Western-oriented oligarchs grow rich and placate the enemy with all sorts of concessions. The worst-case scenario for the country is predictably coming to fruition. With such an "elite," nothing else could happen. This "Gordian knot" of total betrayal and Western orientation is leading the country to ruin.
    1. +3
      2 October 2025 11: 22
      Quote: Vulpes
      against which the oligarchs, oriented towards the West

      All oligarchs are focused on their own pockets. There are no patriotic oligarchs; there are oligarchs with economic interests and circumstances.
    2. +1
      2 October 2025 12: 19
      what scenario?.................................
  27. 2al
    -10
    2 October 2025 09: 24
    The author is completely out of touch with the political situation in Ukraine and how and by whom EU funding flows are distributed. Ukraine's funding mechanism has always been and remains its "schwerpunkt"—it depends on and is controlled by a very small circle of individuals who are far from invulnerable. And now that the issue of appropriating Russian assets has become a practical matter, the war for the "Russian legacy" has already begun.
    1. 2al
      -7
      2 October 2025 15: 56
      Even the officially stated goals of the SVO were not the military and political defeat of Ukraine. Nevertheless, everything is moving in that direction. Along with Ukraine's military defeat, a political and economic problem has emerged: funding for Ukraine is being curtailed. The backbone of Ukraine's military machine and domestic political stability has always been economic and free aid from the US and EU.
      But now this aid is being curtailed, and this month they will gnaw on the last euros, despite the fact that sources of aid for 2026 have still not been found.
      "Some 32 billion euros ($37 billion) out of the 50 billion have already been provided to Kyiv, so there isn't that much headroom left, and Budapest would likely object to more cash being used for this purpose.
      And while the European Commission is proposing a 100 billion euro ($118 billion) fund for Ukraine in the multiannual EU budget for 2028-2034, all the member states must sign off on this as well, while it is also increasingly clear that Kyiv needs more immediate funding."
      https://www.rferl.org/a/eu-reparations-loan-ukraine-frozen-russian-assets/33544244.html
      An attempted hostile takeover by European Commissioners of the "Russian legacy" has resulted in an internal power struggle within the EU, paralyzing funding for Ukraine.
      Therefore, the collapse of Ukraine this year is more than likely.
      1. 0
        3 October 2025 04: 57
        Quote: 2al
        Ukraine's funding is being curtailed

        They've already been funded for two years in advance. The only thing saving us is Ukrainian corruption, God bless it. Our pockets aren't bulging either; military spending will be cut, and everything else is being cut too. Extortion from the population is growing.
        1. 2al
          0
          3 October 2025 11: 00
          So they have already been financed for 2 years in advance.
          No, The Ukraine Facility program is not funded, meaning expenses have been announced for 2024-27, but the budget for them was only allocated for 2024-25, and resources for 2026 have not yet been allocated or agreed upon, and the funds are planned to be obtained by outright looting of Euroclear.
  28. +6
    2 October 2025 09: 31
    Become a plus!
    The author is right in everything...unfortunately..
  29. 10+
    2 October 2025 09: 32
    Finally, some sound, balanced analysis! No propaganda or fluff.
    Thank you! hi
  30. +3
    2 October 2025 09: 33
    A hunter without a gun is still a hunter, and a duck with a gun is still a duck. It's like someone with a gun being stabbed with a knife, and then chanting that "firearms are inappropriate—there will be no winners."
  31. +1
    2 October 2025 09: 34
    To most of the commentators here.
    Welcome to the military registration and enlistment office.
    They are now accepting people under contract up to 65 years of age.
    They take those who did not serve
    conscription, they take convicted persons,
    They take the sick, the lame, the cross-eyed.
    How many assault companies can there be?
    form from here
    commentators ??
    1. +7
      2 October 2025 10: 04
      Are you talking about those who support the general line of the party and the brilliant leader?
      1. +8
        2 October 2025 10: 12
        About them the most.
        The same Lech.
        Boris 55.
        Staver.
        Well, and many others.
        1. +3
          2 October 2025 10: 15
          Thanks for clarifying, I had it exactly the opposite way (as other readers seem to think, hence the downvotes). With that clarification, I completely agree.
          1. 0
            2 October 2025 11: 25
            Quote: Konstantin Traflyalin
            Thanks for the clarification, I understood it exactly the opposite (as other readers think, hence Cons).

            By the way, they can be fixed. I've already fixed mine.
      2. +8
        2 October 2025 11: 13
        Quote: Konstantin Traflyalin
        Are you talking about those who support the general line of the party and the brilliant leader?

        Just recently, I wrote about "support" for the party and its leader. Let me repeat that.

        The regime encouraged maximum passivity among citizens. Non-interference in everything. You sit there and let the boys sort it all out. Anyone who's too energetic and active arouses suspicion, no matter which way they wave their flag.
        The regime has been and continues to address its main objective: the stability of power with a relatively low level of violence.
        However, he has no real leverage at his disposal. Neither does he have public trust in democratic principles, nor does he have any fear of the repressive machinery of totalitarianism. The flywheel of repression cannot be turned without the active participation of citizens. But citizens have long been unwilling to participate. Even the furious state propaganda that pours forth from every corner of the world fails to mobilize anyone.
        So, 83% support the government, as VTsIOM and even Madame Pamfilova tell us. But how does this happen?
        Nobody's doing anything. A handful sign up for volunteer battalions, and the vast majority don't even attend pro-government rallies. They're forced to attend under threat of dismissal. People are passive and practically never even go to the polls, leaving the APEshka constantly worrying about turnout and vote rigging. Although things have improved since the introduction of the DEG.
        There is lukewarm approval from the authorities, but no real support.
    2. 0
      2 October 2025 10: 05
      Quote: Sakhalin V
      How many assault companies can there be?
      form from here
      commentators ??

      Don't you want to know how much modern weaponry was seized from our oligarchs' seized funds and property in the EU and the US? And don't you want to know where their children are still hiding from the military registration and enlistment offices?
      It's perfectly clear that the entire current situation with this SVO is a direct consequence of the treacherous policies of our oligarchs. But the ones who are trying to clean it up are the sick and the slanted.
      1. +5
        2 October 2025 10: 15
        I'm sick...
        I am 50+.
        I have varicose veins on my left leg.
        The pressure is jumping.
        And nothing, I serve somehow,
        and I hide from drones in the forest clearings.
        What's stopping others?
        come here to us??
        1. +3
          2 October 2025 10: 18
          Quote: Sakhalin V
          And nothing, I serve somehow,
          and I hide from drones in the forest clearings.
          What's stopping others?
          come here to us??

          What's the point of your service? To hide for another three years and still get paid according to your contract?
          1. +1
            2 October 2025 10: 22
            Well, actually, I'm a career military man.
            And they pay good money.
            And from October 1st there will be an increase...
            1. +3
              2 October 2025 10: 37
              Quote: Sakhalin V
              Well, actually, I'm a career military man.
              And they pay good money.
              And from October 1st there will be an increase...

              Are you prolonging the pleasure?
        2. +9
          2 October 2025 11: 04
          Quote: Sakhalin V
          What's stopping others?
          come here to us??

          Perhaps they don't understand the actions of the country's leaders. It's strange when people are dying from attacks by the Ukrainian regime, while soldiers are on the front lines, while oligarchs are simultaneously trading with the enemy, transiting hydrocarbons with interest payments. It's more like supporting someone's business ideas. And I have no intention of participating in that.
        3. +2
          2 October 2025 14: 40
          The presence of brains is noticeable.
          The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information
    3. +4
      2 October 2025 10: 55
      I don't know. Is it possible to sign a contract for the position of Chief of the General Staff?
    4. +3
      2 October 2025 11: 25
      Quote: Sakhalin V
      They take those who did not serve
      conscription, they take convicted persons,
      They take the sick, the lame, the cross-eyed.

      I think they'll be happy to take our oligarchs too. Let those who organized this mess and who are making money off the blood of ordinary people fight first and foremost.
    5. +2
      2 October 2025 17: 53
      Okay. Well, you're not in the trenches either. So why are you sending others? Set an example. Forward to the military registration and enlistment office!
    6. +3
      3 October 2025 05: 12
      Quote: Sakhalin V
      To most of the commentators here.
      Welcome to the military registration and enlistment office.

      You've chosen a bad place for recruiting.
      How many assault companies can there be?
      form from here
      commentators ??

      not a single one, not even enough for one company))

      Here's a free idea: sign up for the VSRF in the lobby of the United Russia party's central office. A party call, so to speak. (Or better yet, in every city.) Everyone there is a 100% patriot, unlike the skeptical regulars here. crying
  32. 30+
    2 October 2025 09: 37
    February 2022. Plan A.
    In February 2022, our brilliant leaders had a plan. The Georgian scenario.
    They came in, scared us a bit, replaced the government with the Medvedchuks, left, and everyone was happily dancing and singing.
    However, it turned out that intelligence had screwed up. We suffered heavy casualties, our rear was decimated by the Ukrops, who had recovered from the shock, and, as I understand it, there was no backup plan.
    And the plan had to be urgently revised, or even a new one had to be invented.
    May 2022. Plan B was devised.
    They were hammering the Ukrainians with long-range weapons and threatening them on TV with all sorts of "take out the Nazis quickly and we'll live like before." Meanwhile, the leaders began frantically thinking about how to climb out of the hole they'd dug themselves into. Meanwhile, the cautious West began to realize that "the tiger turned out to be a paper tiger" (c) Trump and began supplying the Ukrainians with more and more weapons, which became more and more lethal.
    Our guys drew lines and threatened to complain to sportloto UN. Moronic invectives like "we'll fix everything" and "little by little" were born right then.
    I can even imagine the West's surprise – they supply increasingly modern and high-quality weapons and equipment, provide their combat crews, conduct reconnaissance and targeting, their general staffs plan operations, they train and equip soldiers, and yet we do NOTHING in return. Joyfully continuing to supply energy while the West searches for a replacement.
    The Ukrainian postal system's infrastructure works like clockwork; the transport and energy systems, the delivery of ammunition, fuel, and lubricants, as well as the rotation of personnel, are working perfectly; we don't try to influence it in any way.
    All this continued right up until the "difficult decisions" and "regrouping," when we fled the captured 50,000 square kilometers of territory, abandoning equipment and ammunition worth billions, citizens who believed us that "Russia is here forever," etc.
    And plan B was devised: to start fighting more seriously, but to continue to persuade the West to reconcile.
    Mobilization was declared, strikes on infrastructure began, and basically, we've been living in this plan for the next three years. It's already obvious to everyone that this plan isn't viable. The Ukrainians' infrastructure is still doing quite well today: fuel is plentiful, ammunition is being supplied, weapons are plentiful. There are some minor issues with personnel, but that's not the biggest problem; the bus system is working fine.
    Our epic battles for three barns and a small hut have no strategic (or, for that matter, tactical) significance. It's a complete stalemate.
    But we got it in the neck.
    The attacks on our infrastructure are intensifying daily. Fuel shortages are looming. The partially destroyed Black Sea Fleet, driven to remote bases and unable to venture out, has been destroyed at its airfields, costing insane amounts of money. Long-range missile carriers and AWACS aircraft have been destroyed, the Crimean Bridge has been disabled twice, a sabotage war is being waged, and civilians are dying daily in our rear (including General Staff generals and opinion leaders like Tatarsky). Part of the Kursk region was occupied by the enemy for nine months!!!, so much so that Rocketman had to be called in for help...

    Frankly, with such a handicap in pieces and position in February 2022, it would take the true talent of a great grandmaster to screw everything up like that.
    1. +2
      2 October 2025 10: 56
      Plan A could have worked. But for some reason, without intimidating anyone, they started negotiations.
    2. +4
      2 October 2025 12: 40
      To win an offensive, you need a three-fold superiority in troops, and that wasn't even close to happening in 2022. That's a question for the General Staff.
    3. +2
      2 October 2025 21: 03
      Oh, bravo! This turned out to be a really insightful article. good
      1. 0
        2 October 2025 22: 39
        Quote from AdAstra
        Oh, bravo! This turned out to be a really insightful article.

        It's simply stated (though, that's a good point). For those who still have some brainpower left after spending a couple of years with the "zombie box," it's been clear for a couple of years now.
    4. +1
      3 October 2025 08: 25
      Frankly, with such a handicap in pieces and position in February 2022, it would take the true talent of a great grandmaster to screw everything up like that.
      They screwed up back in 2014, when they were waiting for us... But the Kremlin mob repeatedly chooses the worst-case scenario. So the question is: are they choosing themselves or are they being told to? I'm leaning toward the latter, and hence the conclusion: Russia is being deliberately pushed into the abyss, and its current rulers are merely fulfilling someone else's evil will.
  33. -18
    2 October 2025 09: 45
    The article and its famous authors reek of naivety.
    Broken gas pipelines, 50 tomahawks - yeah right.
    Russia, without electricity, gas and petrol, immediately throws its hands up))) How naive.

    Renowned authors, it would be better to calculate how much your vaunted West and the US have already lost in the Ukrainian conflict and consider whether the West is not the wolf in the trap, the frog in the cauldron, etc.?

    You talk about a positional stalemate on the front lines, but for some reason you don’t take political factors into account.
    Ukraine will no longer exist as a state - this is already a fait accompli.
    1. +1
      2 October 2025 20: 58
      I counted it and shed a tear. Quite a lot, compared to our assets and reserves. But it's not comparable. Because when the fat one wastes away, the thin one will die. And let's count how much Russia, we ordinary people, has lost. Especially the human losses. Putin has already spoken about Ukraine's statehood. He says there is no goal in destroying statehood.
  34. +5
    2 October 2025 09: 47
    Quote: Olejik
    Don't slander! Putin represents stability, calm, and confidence in the future.
    Putin is the president of the world!!!!

    Well, that's why! Why the bottom right away? There's a false bottom, and underneath that there's a cesspool.
  35. 16+
    2 October 2025 09: 54
    Nothing good awaits. Putin made a terrible (even criminal) mistake, inexplicably betraying the "Russian Spring" in 2014 when he refused to recognize the DPR and LPR and withheld aid from Kharkiv. This would have triggered a chain reaction, with referendums held in Kherson, Odesa, Mykolaiv, Dnipropetrovsk, and Zaporizhzhia. And then, quite possibly, in other regions besides the three western regions. People genuinely expected support and were ready to greet our soldiers with flowers. But Putin decided to play it safe – giving the Nazis eight years to intimidate the most active people – to beat and maim, even kill, imprison, and force them to flee their countries. Add to this the brutal brainwashing, especially of children and teenagers. Meanwhile, complete complacency and ignorance of the true state of affairs within the Ministry of Defense and the mood in society led to the shameful exodus of young men after the announcement of partial mobilization. The result is that a large, aggressively Russophobic state has emerged in the West, making Lithuania and Poland look like fluffy kittens. Unfortunately, there is no prospect of a military victory. Any peace agreement will be disadvantageous to Russia. Moreover, terrorist attacks will continue even after the peace treaty is concluded—just like the attacks on Donetsk and Luhansk after the Minsk agreements.
    1. -7
      2 October 2025 12: 38
      It's naive to think so. In 2014, not even the army, but the Russian economy wasn't ready for harsh sanctions. Back then, 60% of food was imported, and the mechanical engineering industry was in recession.
      1. +7
        2 October 2025 14: 27
        Europe wasn't ready for sanctions, either. And the Ukrainian army was demoralized and ineffective, plus it had the support of a significant portion of the population.
  36. -1
    2 October 2025 10: 08
    The worst thing that could happen is if they start hijacking small missile ships and regular air defense personnel.
  37. +3
    2 October 2025 10: 16
    Even if we reach Lviv, America won't collapse, and NATO won't be dissolved. At the beginning of the SVO, they shook like maple leaves in the wind, clucking about "avoiding escalation," but gradually they began to view our arsenal as a trinket, due to our strange behavior and the different-colored red lines...
  38. +3
    2 October 2025 10: 40
    Quote: U-58
    Maybe the leadership will find a way to speed up our victories.

    What victories? "Victory" means that the enemy has been defeated and defeated, his resistance broken, he disarmed.
  39. +1
    2 October 2025 10: 41
    We have a constant alternation of E-P-E-P (escalation-negotiations). Now, it seems, we are at the point of forming a new wave, which is already gaining strength and approaching the shore.

    All this is painfully reminiscent of the Iran-Iraq War, where the conflict also developed in waves.


    So the war scriptwriters are the same, only the actors are different....
  40. +3
    2 October 2025 11: 05
    It will be like the Middle East, as long as foreigners from those places rule Russia and Ukraine. That's why the USSR tried to keep them out of power.
  41. +1
    2 October 2025 11: 30
    Both sides are fighting at maximum capacity (excluding weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons). We're fed up with experts who believe we're fighting "single-handedly," and that we supposedly have some kind of "ambush regiment" in reserve that we simply don't want to commit to battle, otherwise it would immediately crush all the enemies. There are no ambush regiments, and there's no single-handedness. The war is being waged at maximum capacity, down to the last straw and the camel. No mobilization will help, because today even a squad (5-10 fighters) is already a juicy target, and the enemy will spare no effort to destroy them. Combat operations are conducted in teams of two, rarely three, and a large concentration of troops is a target that will be instantly destroyed.
    1. +5
      2 October 2025 11: 50
      Quote: Antony
      The war is going on at maximum settings, down to a straw and a camel.

      The country's economic potential is currently being used not for victory, but for the enrichment of our oligarchy. That's the whole point.
    2. +2
      2 October 2025 11: 51
      Quote: Antony
      supposedly there is some kind of "ambush regiment" in reserve that we simply don't want to commit to battle,

      In principle, it exists. Conscripts. They fought in Afghanistan, they fought in Chechnya, so in theory, they could do the same here.
      And I sincerely don't understand how a mobile phone that served the same conscription 20 years ago was any better than a conscript in 2022.
      1. +1
        2 October 2025 12: 35
        There were no zoomers among the conscripts back then.
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  43. +9
    2 October 2025 11: 47
    Thanks for the article. It's utterly hopeless. I recently came across Strelkov's last letters from the penal colony. His assessment of the situation at the beginning of the SVO was about 90% accurate, and now his predictions are also pessimistic.

    P.S. If I donate money to Viktor Biryukov through the yellow icon, will I be held accountable in the future? For example, if the author is declared a foreign agent or something similar.
    1. +7
      2 October 2025 14: 14
      It never hurts to be cautious, but I think you're overdoing it. :) If you're afraid of everything, then why live at all? I try to be as honest with my readers as possible, but I don't cross any "dangerous lines." I'd be grateful for a donation (should I understand this is a small donation from you? If so, thank you). Believe it or not, I've never been spoiled with donations from my readers before. smile
      1. +5
        2 October 2025 15: 53
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        but readers haven't spoiled me with donations yet

        I've also slightly updated the situation. And please let me know in a private message how much money you received. I'm curious what percentage of the amount sent is being cut.
      2. +3
        2 October 2025 22: 48
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        Should I understand that this was a small donation from you? If so, thank you.

        More like mine laughing
  44. +5
    2 October 2025 12: 13
    1) It turns out that all the articles and statements that Ukraine is about to be, that were, are and will be, are lies, deceit and fraud.
    2) It turns out that lying has become state policy in the media and elsewhere
    3) It turns out that lies have become accustomed to impunity and are shaping the image of the country's future and future generations....

    I won't write about the military, everyone and their dog already describes it...
  45. -1
    2 October 2025 12: 34
    As far as I understand, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have not yet limited themselves in their strikes against the Russian Federation, but Russia still has not decided to carry out strikes that could destroy the country's entire energy infrastructure.
    Now Trump has given the go-ahead.
    1. +2
      2 October 2025 12: 53
      Russia still can't bring itself to carry out attacks that could destroy the country's entire energy structure.

      Speaking of energy, a missile from a Haimars hit a thermal power plant in Belgorod. It destroyed something there. This is most likely Ukraine's retaliation for our "energy strikes."
      What I want to say, and most importantly, predict like Vanga: Ukrainian Armed Forces missiles, possibly Tomahawks, hit all of Moscow's thermal power plants or gas distribution points at once, cutting off the heat supply. What will the whining of Muscovites, along with the deputies and propagandists, look like? Surely a nuclear strike on Ukraine would be immediately approved. But that won't happen, because Zelensky is fulfilling London's directive for a long war to weaken Russia, destroying his own people in the process. Well, maybe they'll hit just one thermal power plant.
      Therefore, a nuclear strike on Ukraine, firstly on the western side, is the only cure for all the Russophobes led by the "Englishwoman" and her spy Zelya.
      1. +1
        2 October 2025 19: 05
        Nuclear weapons will save Russia; we don’t need a new Brest-Litovsk peace treaty on the West’s terms.
    2. -1
      3 October 2025 09: 50
      because the moon-faced man has courage only in words, but in reality he is a chatterbox
  46. +7
    2 October 2025 12: 38
    attacks on Ukraine, but in this regard it is less vulnerable, since virtually its entire economy relies on foreign aid

    It's stupid. You can't fill a car with dollars, or pour dollars into a glass.
    If they wanted, Ukraine could be set back several decades. Eliminate the data centers of financial and government institutions, and trade would grind to a halt. Eliminate the wastewater treatment plants, and let them drink untreated water from the Dnipro River. Finally, shut down the nuclear power plant, just like the Ukrainians shut down the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
    Systematically knock out railway locomotives.
    All this together will turn the country into hell.
    Destroy absolutely any logistics centers, grocery, industrial, any.
    1. -1
      2 October 2025 18: 36
      Dear Vladislav Markov_2(Muskool)! If only the Supreme Commander would hear all this... From the series "dreams, dreams""..... In fact, there is something else here.... A strange and persistent presumption is emerging that the Ukroreikh, aka the former Ukraine, has long been "divided", promised (to someone) and, it seems, paid for... Hence such a war with NATO, "pardon", - SVO... Hence, probably, such "patience" for the death and maiming of the domestic population of Russia in the rear and in the border areas, for raids in the depths of the Country on civilian and military targets... Remembering the classics of Marxism - Leninism, in "strange" situations, we must look for "who benefits" according to the class principle, considering that Russia is the country of victorious oligarchic CAPITALISM... .... And you, in turning someone's, already, property, into HELL.... Not serious, however.....
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  48. -6
    2 October 2025 13: 11
    It's very grim, but it seems to be true... Mr. Biryukov V.'s article looks very much like a "custom order" from "forces" wishing to "test" public opinion in Russia, regarding possible, rather unpopular actions by the country's leadership, against the backdrop of the so-called SVO... Incidentally, this kind of "testing" has been going on in the media for some time now... But there is another "aspect" to this "scenario" of working with the population: with these "injections," especially in electronic media, they are trying to sow discontent among the people with the current government and the course that Russia is taking under the leadership of the current Supreme Commander, both domestically and internationally... As the saying goes, domestic liberalism, represented by the "fifth column," is on the march...
    1. 0
      4 October 2025 18: 14
      No, no, what are you saying? I'm personally very happy with everything. They're raising fines – bravo! Utility rates are rising – hurray! Store prices – absolutely wonderful! They're bringing in migrants in droves – super! I could go on and on... And against this backdrop, the gleaming faces of Gazprom's closest associates, ministers, and deputies. They shouldn't even be embarrassed to reveal how many more dollar billionaires there are in Russia. I'm so happy for them all...
  49. +1
    2 October 2025 13: 15
    But how come everyone always told us it was a grinding? We grind and grind, we'll grind and grind and grind all our enemies, and then what will happen? So, is grinding useless, are new enemies just growing? What should we do?
    1. +2
      2 October 2025 18: 47
      Dear gribanow.c (Konstantin Gribanov), these days, you can only believe in yourself and, perhaps, your wife, with whom you've been married and living for 40 years... And everything else, especially from the media, is all from the devil and for the faint-hearted, not particularly endowed with nature, IQ... Such are the "realities" of today....
  50. -1
    2 October 2025 14: 10
    We are waiting for mobilization - what else can we expect?
  51. +3
    2 October 2025 14: 28
    Nothing good can be expected from the current government.
    She lives in another world, far from reality.
  52. 0
    2 October 2025 14: 33
    For ordinary citizens, this means total chaos, and we'll all see the notorious "era" of shortages and stagnation during the Soviet era as a sweet fairy tale. However, 87%+ of voters will like all of this. Yes
  53. +2
    2 October 2025 14: 36
    The West, like the author, reduces everything to arithmetic for the second "B" class, multiplying square kilometers by the time spent on their liberation.
    By this logic, the Battle of Stalingrad is also meaningless—months of fighting for mere square meters and acres. Only there were significant forces of the Nazis and their allies destroyed, seasoned, trained, and experienced ones at that.
    And Hitler was never destined to fully compensate for this loss.
    Ukrainian losses are 2 million, and they're growing. Do you think they have another 2 million left over for the next two years?
    Are the Europeans ready to contribute the next two million, or four, considering that they are not a fraternal people, and we don’t even need them in captivity?
    War requires money, weapons, material resources, but most importantly, people, lots of them. All this nonsense about a professional, compact army that doesn't work by beating everyone on the ground.
    1. 0
      4 October 2025 18: 18
      But try looking a little differently. Does Russia have the strength, human and financial, to continue THIS for a few more years?
  54. 0
    2 October 2025 14: 54
    It's all logical, if optimistic. What did you expect? Four years are coming soon, the entire West is our adversary, and we still have allies, albeit hidden ones. Miracles don't happen. They won't let us leave; winning requires strength, money, which, as we know, is the blood of war. Victory could also end in complete failure for everyone because Europe won't back down (that's not why we started), and we can't back down. Meanwhile, in Moscow, they're resurfacing even the best asphalt and curbs—is that stupidity or treason?
  55. +2
    2 October 2025 15: 55
    Looks like it's time to dig our own "bunker".
  56. 0
    2 October 2025 15: 57
    Just because rich, arrogant, and lazy pigs aren't sent to war doesn't mean they won't die tragically. And that Nightingale, or whatever his name is, would be the perfect mine detector.
  57. 0
    2 October 2025 18: 59
    Either start using tactical nuclear weapons or prepare for a new Brest-Litovsk Treaty. Both are bad, but there's no way out in sight. There's no hope for any other kind of wunderwaffe.
  58. 0
    2 October 2025 19: 26
    🔴🔴🔴🔴

    I was asked to comment on the news that, according to The Wall Street Journal, Trump will provide the Kyiv regime with intelligence for strikes deep into Russian territory, as well as the means to carry them out – Tomahawk and Barracuda missiles. This news is currently trending. Every TV channel, newspaper, and online publication is reporting it, and it's flooding Telegram channels and other social media. The clamor is already audible: this is now "Trump's war."

    I asked in response: what should I comment on? The fact that Trump was handing over intelligence and missiles to the Kyiv regime, or the report in The Wall Street Journal? The journalist who called me was frozen. And that's good, because others not only aren't frozen, they're not even thinking about it.

    Now, to the point. Commenting on the WSJ's "exclusive" is all that's possible, because there's no evidence. There aren't even any official statements. There are only the usual references to unnamed "sources" that are common in such "exclusives." And it appears these are precisely the "sources" that Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is currently trying to find in the Pentagon using a polygraph.

    Comment. Actually, only one. They're drinking champagne and handing out awards in media mogul Rupert Murdoch's office! They carried out a brilliant information attack (IPSO – information-psychological operation). They created a supposed news story out of thin air, broadcast it, and it sold billions of copies worldwide.

    Including, unfortunately, Russia. And, most importantly, perfectly timed. I'm sure this publication was timed to coincide with Vladimir Putin's speech at the Valdai Forum today. This was done, firstly, to influence Putin himself during the question-and-answer session (what if he suddenly makes a sharp remark about Trump and their relationship becomes antagonistic? – that would be a blessing for many in the West), and secondly, to create an unfavorable backdrop for the speech itself, which would be covered by all the world's media and... "loaded" with "news" about intelligence and missiles for Ukraine. There it is – such will be the comments – a "paper tiger." He gets missiles, and he advocates for world peace.

    Now, a few facts—really facts. What is the WSJ and can it be trusted? First, it's the publication of Trump's longtime foe, Rupert Murdoch, a central figure in the anti-Trump coalition, comprised of globalists, Euro-Atlanticists, and the US Democratic Party.

    Moreover, just in July, Trump filed a $10 billion lawsuit against Murdoch and the WSJ for publishing a "note to Epstein containing an outline of a naked woman" (remember, with a signature prominently featured?). With a characteristically Trump-esque comment: "Trump, being Trump, couched... threats in colorful language... 'I'll sue his ass and his third-rate rag'" (The Hill, Washington). This same de facto parliamentary newspaper warns: "For Trump, Murdoch is a dangerous enemy."

    Another fact, not about Murdoch, but about The Wall Street Journal. This business newspaper has officially supported the Democratic Party in the United States for 100 years, including in every election (except the last one, but that's another story). This same Democratic Party that unleashed a war against Russia, tried to jail Trump, publicly handcuffed him, and dreams of Trump continuing "Biden's war" and "returning to the trenches" of the anti-Russian coalition.

    Now I have a question: can we treat a publication like this—with its references to unnamed sources in the "administration"—as fact? The answer: yes. But as fact, part of a domestic political information war in the United States. This publication, in terms of content, is a complete waste of time. But Murdoch's goal is, on the one hand, to force Trump to justify himself (and make mistakes), and on the other, to provoke an angry rebuke from Putin and—ideally—to disrupt the process of normalizing relations between Russia and the United States, which has only just begun and is therefore extremely vulnerable.

    One more question: should you and I, dear colleagues, be helping Rupert Murdoch and generally participating in intra-American squabbles? 👇
    Kazakov A.

    I agree with him. And the author is some kind of alarmist, missing the Parisian promenades.
    IMHO.
  59. 0
    3 October 2025 00: 54
    It looks like a horror movie.
    There is a feeling that someone is exaggerating.
    transition to hype?
    It seems like they've started making news for entertainment.
    Well, or maybe it was just a coincidence.
    some vague statements from political scientists, which is what all the emphasis is on.
    Yes, they live by this - they muddy the waters and eat their bread and butter.
    When people stop playing war for fun, then this will end.
    or rather, when it becomes less popular.
  60. -2
    3 October 2025 05: 16
    The SVO will end only after our leadership runs out of red pencils, and most importantly, when Faberge becomes harder.
    1. -1
      3 October 2025 08: 44
      The SVO will end only after our leadership runs out of red pencils, and most importantly, when Faberge becomes harder.
      So it won't end. We talked, poured out our hearts, but it didn't get any easier - we're going our separate ways.
  61. 0
    3 October 2025 09: 47
    Remember how Mr. Putin loudly declared that we haven't even started the war yet. Maybe we should? During the Central Military District, Stalin advanced from the Volga to Berlin, while our multi-move, 30-kilometer Kursk salient took eight months to eliminate.
    1. 0
      6 October 2025 21: 57
      Quote: roosei
      Stalin reached from the Volga to Berlin,

      And you calculate what this cost us in human terms, and not just in calendar terms.
      1. 0
        7 November 2025 14: 39
        How many lives are involved in this company? Yes, there are no statistics, but in my opinion, the numbers are also quite significant.
  62. +1
    3 October 2025 18: 40
    "The Tomahawk's weakest point is its speed. 800 km/h is very slow these days. While en route, when the missile follows the INS and maps, intercepting it with an aircraft is more than simple." Well, experience has shown that for some reason, it's "more than simple" to intercept even some of the low-speed, noisy drones, comparable to those used in World War I. If they (officially, their "wreckage") regularly reach our deep rear and cause "bangs" and "burnings" at defense plants and oil refineries, then what would happen if modern long-range missiles were used?
    1. +1
      4 October 2025 14: 13
      Intercepting a Tomahawk isn't easy. A dense network of radars and interceptors is required, making even a 90% interception rate simply unrealistic for our vast country. This missile flies very low. It's possible to detect it with radar, but not always. During the US-Iraq War (early 90s), a Western correspondent in Baghdad leaned out of a hotel window with a camera and accidentally captured a Tomahawk flying down the street below. So, there will be problems, and advance warning of a harsh, preferably nuclear, response is necessary.
      1. 0
        6 October 2025 21: 55
        Quote: Alexey Lantukh
        Intercepting a Tomahawk is not so easy

        I remember something similar was written here a couple of years ago about Bayraktars, Panthers, Ambrams, and Javelins... 😁
        1. 0
          6 October 2025 21: 59
          Three Ukrainian UAVs landed on the Tyumen Oil Refinery, to say nothing of a cruise missile. It's clear that not all of them will reach the target, but they'll certainly shoot down far fewer than 90%.
          1. 0
            6 October 2025 22: 02
            Quote: Alexey Lantukh
            There are three Ukrainian Armed Forces UAVs here.

            1) A UAV isn't a missile; it's much harder to detect than a missile. 2) Are you so sure the UAV is coming from Ukraine? Most of them are launched from our territory.
            1. 0
              6 October 2025 22: 07
              Who knows where it came from? The other day, there was a strong westerly wind, which is a godsend for slow-moving UAVs. And they're easy to spot, unless they're flying too low, of course, since they have metal combustion engines.
              1. 0
                6 October 2025 22: 12
                Quote: Alexey Lantukh
                Who knows where it came from?

                Well, they're already talking about it openly... it's clear that not a single UAV, even the Lyutyi, can reach Tyumen from Ukrainian territory; there won't be enough fuel. After all, it carries both fuel and a warhead. And given that it's disassemblable, transporting it across the border is no problem, and it can be launched from Kazakhstan, too.
  63. -1
    3 October 2025 20: 28
    "The Second World War will continue for a long time. What does this mean for ordinary citizens?" Viktor Biryukov, who told you THIS? Or was it a political "premonition"? Or perhaps a "plant" at someone's request, to create an atmosphere of nervousness and pre-war psychosis among ordinary Russians? And to increase demand for salt, matches, kerosene, and goods with extended shelf lives??? Although...
  64. -1
    4 October 2025 10: 14
    It turns out Russia has three weak points, and the enemy knows about them and will even find 50 cruise missiles in the West to strike them. Now imagine a fantasy: over three and a half years, one country has already spent several thousand cruise missiles like the Kalibr, Iskander-K, Kh-101, and Kh-22 on strikes against another, fascist country. The result? Look at bloggers from their largest cities, say, in September 2025. There's electricity, running water, sewage, stores, everything, factories working around the clock, churning out flying death at Russian refineries. Bloggers sit in cafes, savoring coffee, and musing profoundly about when Russia will finally die. So, Russia has vulnerabilities, they've scouted them, they know about them, and they're ready to bring the Russian Federation to its knees with 50 missiles, while the armed forces of that other country, with thousands of cruise missiles already fired (not counting ballistic missiles like the Iskander-M and Hwason), can't even make the slightest dent there. They're just firing at everything. Or is this a special "BMBP" policy (shooting at "military targets" is a Pobeda)????
  65. 0
    4 October 2025 11: 09
    It's foolish to consider the United States, the instigator and beneficiary of the current conflict, an "arbitrator" in a possible resolution. Trump changes his tune almost daily, doing whatever he wants and deems necessary, whatever benefits US politics and the economy. And if he's playing the "good cop" only to buy time or to present himself as a peacemaker, then, when our side doesn't agree to his terms, he'll dismiss us as incapable of negotiating.
    Moreover, he's taken a very convenient and advantageous position: let Europe supply the weapons it buys from the US with its own money. He's forcing Europeans to pay for the war, and he's achieving his political goals of weakening Russia and destroying the Russian people. What a genius!
    1. +1
      6 October 2025 22: 05
      Quote: Marlin
      It is foolish to consider the United States, which is the instigator and beneficiary of the current conflict,

      The Americans are the authors of the Maidan... Zelensky and the current leadership are creatures of British intelligence.
  66. 0
    6 October 2025 21: 53
    The author, of course, chose to "forget" that the Donetsk region in that area is practically one large agglomeration, as well as the fact that the number of Ukrainians is far from unlimited.
  67. 0
    8 October 2025 16: 53
    Bespectacled boys and peeing boys cannot be winners a priori!
  68. 0
    23 October 2025 23: 53
    It seems the author is part of the "Nabullinites" cohort. He seeks justification for his policy of destroying Russia's economy. He plays into the hands of the Anglo-Saxon lobby in the Russian government.
  69. 0
    13 November 2025 05: 42
    Quote: Torp20
    Gather all your relatives and tell them that I want a nuclear weapon and that’s why you will all die and what will they tell you, how did they live with such a freak.

    The Patriots don't care about such trifles. :)
  70. 0
    13 November 2025 05: 45
    Quote: Adrey
    Make it so there are no winners or losers. Only survivors...

    ..."And the survivors will envy the dead" (J. Silver)