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Korean Peninsula: the forces of the parties. Part I

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The topic of the confrontation between North and South Korea is gradually disappearing news tapes. New topical news stories appear. However, the situation on the Korean Peninsula remains tense. In addition, there remains a certain probability of countries moving from the exchange of unfriendly statements to open armed conflict. Many political analysts believe that events will develop according to this scenario. Moreover, the opinion is often expressed according to which not only two Koreas can be drawn into the war, but also neighboring countries, as well as remote states, whose interests also extend to this region.


It is quite obvious that in this case, not only the DPRK and South Korea can be on the list of participants in the conflict, but also China, Japan, the United States and even Russia. It is worth noting that the likelihood of a war, and even more so its transition to the regional level of conflict, is not as great as it seems at first glance. Nevertheless, it is possible to consider the forces of the parties to a possible conflict and evaluate their relationship. Of course, such a comparison will not be too objective, since only the real war can best show the balance of forces. However, from a simple comparison one can understand some things.

In the event of war, its first participants, as is clear, will be North and South Korea. The whole situation in the region will depend on their actions. For objective reasons, both countries do not disclose accurate data regarding their armed forces, and the DPRK was the most distinguished in terms of secrecy. The army of this state can be judged only by indirect information coming from several sources. Nevertheless, even with such a shortage of information, it is possible to roughly present the existing picture.

North Korea

The total number of personnel of the Korean People’s Army (KPA) is approximately 1,2 million people. Most (a little over a million) serve in the ground forces. Regarding the number of reservists complete data are not available. According to various sources, their number ranges from hundreds of thousands to several millions. In addition, it is often mentioned that due to the peculiarities of the mentality, the KPA reserve can be considered almost the entire population of the country, with the exception of the elderly and children. According to the most balanced estimates, if necessary, no more than 4-5 million people can be recruited into the army. It is also worth noting the presence in North Korea of ​​power structures, the total number of employees of which is approximately 185-190 to thousands of people.



In the land parts of the KPA there are at least 3-3,5 thousand tanks various types. Almost all of these vehicles are Soviet armored vehicles or samples of local production created on its basis. The estimated number of lightly armored vehicles for transporting personnel (armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.) is slightly less and does not exceed three thousand units. The qualitative composition of the fleet of this equipment corresponds to the composition of the tank units: in the units there are Soviet and Korean armored vehicles produced over the past few decades.

In the Korean People's Army, artillery is developed in a numerical aspect. The troops number about 20 thousand guns, mortars and combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems. Perhaps the most well-known artillery system of the DPRK, is the Koksan self-propelled howitzer of 170 caliber of millimeters with a firing range of about 50-55 kilometers. As is the case with other weapons, North Korean artillery has Soviet "roots." At the same time, if the own Korean developments are present as part of the barrel artillery, then all multiple launch rocket systems are either made in the USSR or made on the basis of Soviet complexes.

KPA also has a well-developed air defense system. To protect objects and troops on the march, the army is equipped with 10-11 with thousands of receiver anti-aircraft systems. In addition, according to various estimates, there are up to 15 thousands of portable anti-aircraft missile systems in the warehouses of the North Korean units, which are the Soviet “Arrows” and “Needles” assembled in the DPRK. However, the main means of protecting the airspace of the country are fixed and mobile air defense systems. In the North Korean air defense forces there are at least 1,5-2 of thousands of similar complexes of several types. And at the same time both the old Soviet-made C-25 and the relatively new “Buki” serve. All anti-aircraft systems and radar stations are assembled into a single integrated system, which significantly increases the potential of the air defense forces.



To combat the enemy’s armored vehicles in the KPA, several types of anti-tank grenade launchers and Soviet-made missiles are used. As in the case of other weapons, after purchasing a number of ready-made complexes, the DPRK began its own production. There is information about the use of several types of anti-tank grenade launchers, which are copies or further development of the Soviet weapons of the RPG line. Controlled anti-tank systems are also represented by the number of types read. The newest of them - the Soviet "Fagot" and "Competition". Data on the number of anti-tank missile systems are not available.

The DPRK Air Force Park consists of approximately one and a half thousand aircraft. About a third of them are fighters. About two hundred - attack aircraft and helicopters. It should be noted that the most massive North Korean aircraft are still the MiG-21 of various modifications (more than 150-170 units), as well as the Shenyang F-5 and F-6, which are Chinese copies of the Soviet fighters MiG-17 and MiG-19, respectively . With such a technique in sharp contrast to fifty MiG-29. In general, the equipment of the KPA Air Force cannot be considered modern. Most new aircraft and helicopters were produced only in the nineties, which accordingly affects the combat capability of the Air Force.



The naval forces of the DPRK consist of two fleets, the Western and Eastern fleets, which include almost 700 units of equipment. These are three frigates and two destroyers, about two dozen small anti-submarine ships, rocket and torpedo boats, etc. The North Korean submarine fleet is equipped with Soviet-made and Chinese-made diesel-electric submarines (less than 30), approximately the same number of small submarines, and also approximately two dozen ultra-small submarines. It is noteworthy that the bulk of the technology of the DPRK naval forces consists of boats for various purposes. In total, North Korean sailors have almost four hundred such boats.

The North Korean ballistic missiles, the operation of which is assigned to a separate branch of the military, are causing the greatest concern among neighboring countries. Rockets of various types are capable of hitting targets at ranges from 70 to 3500 kilometers, which allows the DPRK to keep the entire Korean Peninsula and significant adjacent territories on sight. The total number of missiles, launchers and personnel remains unknown. At the same time, according to some estimates, the KPA has about a thousand missiles of all types. Medium-range missiles are obviously capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Accurate information on the status and quantity of nuclear weapons is missing.



South Korea

The armed forces of South Korea are about two times behind the KPA in terms of strength. So, in the ranks there are a total of 640 thousand people, 500-520 of whom serve in the ground forces. The total number of reservists is estimated at three million.

There are fewer vehicles in the South Korean tank forces than in the corresponding units of the DPRK army - no more than 2500 tanks. In this case, the most widespread type is the K1 of American design and Korean production. The second largest - K1A1. These combat vehicles have much better characteristics in comparison with the technology of the likely enemy, so the lag in quantity can be compensated by the characteristics of the tanks. At the same time, in the tank parts of South Korea there are still several hundred old American tanks M48A3 and M43A5.

The South Korean ground forces have about 2400 units of light armored vehicles for transporting soldiers: at least 1600 tracked K200 infantry combat vehicles, around 400 M113 armored personnel carriers and several dozen other types of vehicles. Among other things, the South Korean army has 70 Russian-made BMP-3 machines. In 2009, deliveries of the new K21 BMP began. Already delivered more than a hundred cars, in total, it is planned to assemble 900-like BMP.



Artillery units are armed with about seven and a half thousand guns, self-propelled guns and mortars. In addition, at least three thousand weapons are in storage. South Korean artillery guns have a caliber of up to 170 millimeters (American-made MXA AMS), but the most common are smaller caliber guns. So, the most massive towed gun is the 107-mm howitzer M105 (more than 101-2300 units), and the most mass self-propelled-K2400 caliber 55 mm, which is the licensed version of the American ACN M155 (not less than 109 units). The fleet of multiple launch rocket systems is limited only by modifications of the three types of complexes. The total number of MLRS does not exceed two hundred.

In numerical terms, the South Korean air defense also loses to the relevant units of the DPRK army. The total number of anti-aircraft missile and gun systems does not exceed 1150-1200. Armed with anti-aircraft systems 11 types, including three gun (self-propelled K30 and K263A1, as well as towed family Oerlikon GDF). Protection of objects and troops is assigned to the K-SAM Chunma and M-SAM Cheolmae-2 missile systems. In addition, there are a number of Russian C-300 complexes, supplied in the nineties. A characteristic feature of the South Korean air defense is a wide range of portable air defense systems. The troops use complexes of five types of American, English, French, Russian and its own South Korean production.



Anti-tank infantry weapons in the army of South Korea are represented by six models, mainly of foreign manufacture. The troops have recoilless guns, anti-tank rocket launchers and guided missiles. The most widespread type of such weapons BGM-71 TOW complexes are of American design.

Like the DPRK, South Korea is armed with ballistic missiles. The Hyunmoo family of weapons can deliver 500-kilogram warheads from 180 kilometers (Hyunmoo-1) to 1500 km (Hyunmoo-3C). According to estimates, the Hyunmoo-100, Hyunmoo-150A and Hyunmoo-1B missiles are on duty around 2-2. As for the missiles of the "third" line, the data on them is classified and has not yet been officially announced. Probably, the score is at least tens.

The striking power of the South Korean Air Force is 450-470 fighter-bombers. These are ten modifications of five American-made aircraft. Part of the aircraft under license was built at South Korean enterprises. The most popular type of aircraft in the Air Force is Northrop F-5, including fighters assembled in South Korea. Their total number is approximately equal to 160-170 units. General Dynamics F-16 aircraft and their South Korean modifications are slightly behind them. A characteristic feature of the South Korean Air Force, which distinguishes them from the North Korean military aviation, is the presence of Boeing 737 AEW & C early warning aircraft. Even four such aircraft (that is how much they serve in the South Korean Air Force) can significantly change the course of an air battle.



In recent decades, South Korea has been actively developing its submarine fleet. From 1985 of the year to our time, the 14 diesel-electric submarines were built and put into operation. Most of the submarines were built together with Germany. It is worth noting that the South Korean industry alone built only three small submarines of the Dolgorae type.

The basis of the surface fleet South Korea are 12 destroyers of three projects. All of them carry torpedo and missile weapons. The oldest of these ships was built only in the late nineties. In addition, the Navy has 114 corvettes, frigates, patrol ships and boats. Thus, the main task of the South Korean naval forces is to patrol the coastal zone and, if necessary, to strike at surface and ground targets of the enemy. Also, one cannot fail to note the relatively developed landing fleet. South Korea has four tank landing ships, one universal landing ship, five hovercraft and several other types of boats.



In the context of the presence of landing ships and boats, South Korea’s separate Marine Corps should be noted. This independent branch of the military has its own ground and amphibious equipment, the model range of which almost completely corresponds to the equipment of the ground forces. The main difference is the number of weapons and equipment. In the marines, only 28 thousand people serve, which is why the number of equipment and weapons is only a few percent of their total number in the South Korean army.

Comparison

As we see, the armies of the two neighboring states differ in both quantitative and qualitative aspects. In some areas, weapons and equipment, for example, in tanks, DPRK leads in number with a large margin, but the level of development of armored vehicles is unlikely to allow it to effectively deal with less massive, but more modern South Korean tanks. Numerous anti-tank guided systems could be the way out, but the success of using outdated missiles against modern tanks raises a number of serious questions.

In general, the comparison of ground forces in the conditions of modern war must be made with an eye on the air force. They have been performing the bulk of shock work in recent decades. It is unlikely that North Korea will be able to effectively resist the South Korean F-16, having a large number of upgraded MiG-21 and Chinese copies of earlier aircraft. Even relatively new MiG-29 will not be able to have a serious impact on the course of air battles, since their number is small, and South Korea also has long-range radar detection aircraft. Thus, the situation in the air is likely to be favorable for the actions of the South Korean strike aircraft.

However, do not forget the air defense system. Even without the most modern air defense systems, the DPRK army can provide a fairly high level of security for its facilities. In this case, an integrated communications and control system, including radar stations, command posts and anti-aircraft batteries, will be useful. There is no exact information about this, but it can be assumed that the North Korean air defense system has a layered structure and covers all dangerous areas and important objects.



The same can be said about the South Korean air defense. Together with foreign partners, this country has created an effective defense against air attack. Judging by the available data, South Korean air defense will be at least a very difficult obstacle for obsolete North Korean aircraft.

In this case, the only highly effective strike weapons of the North Korean armed forces remain ballistic missiles. As the American intelligence service reported a few days ago, the missiles were already taken to the position and ready for launch. Thus, the entire South Korea, a part of Japan, China and other states find themselves in the zone of the DPRK missile forces. Moreover, if the North Korean engineers completed the refinement of the Musudan missiles, the American bases on the island of Guam could be under attack. It should be noted that North Korean facilities can also be destroyed by South Korean missiles. Although the latter cannot yet boast the range of missiles in the 3-3,5 for thousands of kilometers, it is quite capable of attacking any object in the territory of its northern neighbor.

Protection against ballistic missiles is a separate issue around which disputes have been going on for a long time. Anti-aircraft missile systems available in both countries have limited anti-missile capabilities. Therefore, most of the launched missiles are able to achieve their goal and destroy any object of the enemy. And this object can be either one of the missile bases of the DPRK, or the building of the government of South Korea. In other words, because of their effectiveness, the ballistic missiles of both Koreas are a means of guaranteed mutual irresistible attack.

The collision of the naval forces of both countries also has no definite consequences. In fact, in this case, it will be necessary to observe the struggle of the small but “full-fledged” naval forces of South Korea with what is called the mosquito fleet by the DPRK. Attacks of small, mobile and difficult to detect and destroy missile or torpedo boats can seriously affect the entire maritime component of the war. The presence of diesel-electric submarines on both sides only exacerbates the complexity of the situation.

A separate "trump card" of South Korea is the Marine Corps with a serious landing fleet. With the proper organization of the operation, the marines are capable of capturing a section of the North Korean coast and organizing a bridgehead there for further offensive. However, such a landing of an amphibious assault force is unlikely to go unpunished. The capabilities of the KPA are enough to disable or destroy a significant part of the landing ships and boats of the enemy.

Korean Peninsula: the forces of the parties. Part I


In general, the capabilities of the armed forces of both countries can be considered equal. Both armies have advantages and disadvantages in comparison with the likely adversary. As already mentioned, a large number of North Korean tanks are compensated for by the best characteristics of the South Korean, and the airborne defense system of the DPRK will be in the way of the South Korean planes. Thus, it can be assumed that a hypothetical war will be difficult for both parties. Both Koreas are bound to suffer heavy losses in technology and manpower. In addition, we should not forget about ballistic missiles that are of strategic importance within the region, as well as North Korea’s nuclear weapons.

A significant impact on the course of the armed conflict could have the intervention of third countries that have relevant agreements with the DPRK or South Korea. The first maintains relations with China, the second with the United States. The entry of these powers into the war could have grave consequences, since the potential of their armies is many times greater than the capabilities of both Korean armies combined. The combat power of third countries will be devoted to the second part of the article.


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  1. igor36
    igor36 April 23 2013 08: 22
    16
    The best position in any conflict-observer-peacekeeper
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov April 23 2013 15: 25
      -5
      This is the post of Japan.
      Yu.K. - defense, China - defense and possibly offensive, USA - bombing, Russia - retreat.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 23 2013 17: 28
        +1
        Quote: Volkhov
        This is the post of Japan.
        Yu.K. - defense, China - defense and possibly offensive, USA - bombing, Russia - retreat.

        I disagree. Japan will not remain neutral in this conflict, the ROK is quite capable of attacking, but the Russian Federation does not need war there under any conditions, and the current situation suits, it means that our country will in every possible way "cool" the ardor of both sides ...
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov April 23 2013 18: 49
          -1
          Japan is overseas, and the Russian Federation is over the river, who can stay neutral?
          The Russian Federation does not need a war, but the DPRK is capable of starting it as part of systemic actions, and this is the only direction where it is easy for them to succeed.
          The fervor of the parties is cooled, and the troops are arming and China is tightening, but for 25 years they have destroyed the defense with gas cutting and there is nothing comparable to the DPRK in Primorye.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 23 2013 19: 29
            0
            Quote: Volkhov
            DPRK is able to start it as part of systemic actions

            The DPRK will not start a war, stop singing along with the American media. They will not win this war and they understand this very well.
            Japan overseas
            She was there in the 30 years and nonetheless ... She has her own interests in a possible conflict. And her participation may not consist in sending her troops to the Korean peninsula, but in gathering intelligence and providing bases
            1. Volkhov
              Volkhov April 24 2013 12: 25
              0
              The Germans started a war that they could not win, which is worse than the Koreans. Within the framework of the world war it is quite natural. Denying the option in propaganda does not make it impossible in reality.
  2. fenix57
    fenix57 April 23 2013 08: 22
    +4
    Everything regarding the armed forces of both Koreas is clear and intelligible here. But with regard to food supplies - the question is of course interesting or not.
    After all, I sometimes want to eat. And on this issue, the information is quite interesting ( see http://ria.ru/world/20130422/933914074.html). hi Although of course it may be, and not so .... what
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 23 2013 09: 44
      +4
      Kims probably created something similar to our state reserve. And to hide where there is - they dug up their entire territory with subways.
  3. Canep
    Canep April 23 2013 08: 25
    +7
    DPRK army lags behind the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan for 40 years. But I think they will not fight. For both states this is unacceptable. North Korea - most likely will cease to exist, and South Korea will be discarded in development many years ago.
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal April 23 2013 09: 21
      -2
      WELCOME Canep!

      Here, most likely, I do not agree that
      South Korea will be thrown back in development many years ago.


      - for, as it seems to me, that war, on the contrary, gives an impetus to development.

      After all, all that we use now is the consequences of the Second World War.

      And so, in case of escalation, both Koreas will not have a chance of survival.
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris April 23 2013 09: 58
        +5
        Very unlikely. Rather, war will simply lead to mutual destruction. The DPRK will disappear as a state, and the ROK as a developed industrial state. And this will happen because the war will not be as long as the Second World War. Firstly, neither the North nor the South have the resources to wage a long war. Secondly, in this war there will be no such thing as "strategic rear". There will be nowhere and no one to develop and produce new weapons, and not from anything.
    2. Bronis
      Bronis April 23 2013 09: 25
      +3
      Quote: Canep
      DPRK army lags behind the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan for 40 years. But I think they will not fight. For both states this is unacceptable. North Korea - most likely will cease to exist, and South Korea will be discarded in development many years ago.

      Moreover, the destruction of North Korea is not beneficial to the United States. At least for now. The rhetoric of the DPRK allows the United States to substantiate and promote the same missile defense system in the APR. The United States cannot always "make China bad", and the DPRK does not need much effort. For the United States, this is a "paper tiger" that poses no danger.
      For South Korea, the collapse of the North is even more dangerous than its existence. If Korea becomes united, the southerners will have to deal with the population of the North (by analogy with the FRG / GDR, but only in a more radical version). And the difference in level, lifestyle, mentality is huge.
      North Korea will also start a war. South Korea America will have to help. Both contracts and bases. And this is already the inevitable defeat of the northerners, the PRC will not harness for them on a large scale. All the rhetoric of the DPRK is a logical reaction to the insecurity of its position - when you have little strength and resources and want to survive, the only possible thing is the accumulation of resources. And this is, at least, authoritarianism. In their case, totalitarianism in general. So loudly declaring war is one of the few instruments of the DPRK in foreign policy. Yes, and in the inner. This allows you to keep the system "in good shape".
      So a "bad peace" is better than a "good war". At least as long as it is profitable for the USA.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 23 2013 10: 16
        0
        Quote: Bronis
        Moreover, the destruction of North Korea is not beneficial to the United States

        All right!
        I just want to add that the United States is in a favorable position, because in the event of a war and the disappearance of the DPRK as a country, it will lead to the loss of influence on Korea and the formation of another fraudulent state!
        1. Bronis
          Bronis April 23 2013 11: 33
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          in the event of war and the disappearance of the DPRK as a country, it will subsequently lead to the loss of influence on Korea and the formation of another fraudulent state!

          And as a result - the loss of a reliable bridgehead (both military and economic) in the Asia-Pacific region, if not completely, partially. They will then have no reason to directly conflict with China (maybe only to a certain extent, if he himself does not start first). Remains, of course, Japan. Everything is more complicated there. But South Korea + Japan is better than just Japan.
          And in general, the United States seems to have abandoned the theory of building a global world (the name is boring, but it is quite accurate) with bringing states to a certain "Western standard". Now we are building a "world village" - many small, preferably conflicting states (their ideology is not interesting at all) or even quasi-state formations torn apart by civil war. And the United States wants to observe from above, intervening as needed and skimming the cream. They support their strategic allies, and in those countries where the same China strengthens its positions, problems often occur ...
      2. core
        core April 23 2013 16: 25
        0
        in vain do you think that China will allow the destruction of am SK, China does not need a hostile flank. with the loss of SK, China lost half of the rear.
    3. core
      core April 23 2013 16: 22
      0
      most likely yuk will cease to exist. SK has an excellent sponsor who will feed and heat and give weapons, while YuK has this sponsor overseas, which makes it difficult to deliver to TVD. yes, yuk’s tanks are cooler, but losses in tanks will be irreplaceable (very expensive both in production and in repair), yuk’s youth are almost Japanese emo, a dozen such nerds will tear up a soldier. Yuuk Aviation will not play any role, a great Chinese friend will help cover the sk sky, so that the infantry will decide everything.
      1. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF April 23 2013 18: 14
        +3
        And why does everyone immediately bury the north? If in the south they created a state according to Western standards. individualism is strong there, that is, for them high losses, personal security risks, etc. are not acceptable. On the other hand, the north is a socialist state, and for such countries, success in the war, if it is legitimate, is very important. For example, you can recall Vietnam and the actions of Cuban volunteers in African conflicts. And I was struck by the rebuff of the Cuban construction workers to the amers in Grenada. I think the northerners are much more persistent, chkm southerners.
        1. BruderV
          BruderV April 23 2013 21: 53
          -1
          Quote: FC Skif
          And why does everyone immediately bury the north?

          Because with a spear and a bow against automatic rifles you won’t get anything. You can here at least 200 sheets to paint about the firmness of the ideas of the church, the Chukchi, or whatever they are. But if I have a rifle with an NVD or thermal imager, I don’t give a damn for how many years who studied taekwondo, opened my third eye and made contact with the astral plane. The night will come and with impunity I will put as many people as there are enough rounds. If the fighters missiles fly two to three times farther and radars allow you to find the target at two to three great distances, then they wanted to poop on the morale of the pilots of the north, they stupidly did not rise into the air. The author has literacy at the schoolchild level, compared the numbers, found familiar letters and made far-reaching conclusions, and commentators-adherents of the DPRK even lower.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 April 23 2013 23: 12
            +2
            Because with a spear and a bow against automatic rifles you won’t get anything.

            As I already wrote about the difference in the coolness of weapons and equipment between the DPRK and the Republic of Kazakhstan, I suggest looking at our specialists, what they use in the Caucasus (weapons, equipment). And the DPRK has special forces for 100 people. so if you have a rifle with a nightlight or a thermal imaging scope, it’s not a fact that you will have a chance for a second shot (and it’s not a fact that you even notice them before you are put on your feather or your neck is rolled up. And you don’t have to count the DPRK special forces savages with a spear and a bow, although the bow is still relevant, like a crossbow).
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 23 2013 23: 23
              0
              Not everything is as simple as you think. Vietnam war, official loss figures: 58 thousand US, 1 million DRV. These are the results of Vietnam's technical backlog.
              1. sanych
                sanych April 24 2013 05: 48
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Not everything is as simple as you think. Vietnam war, official loss figures: 58 thousand US, 1 million DRV. These are the results of Vietnam's technical backlog.
                - Technical lag is not a major factor in large losses of DRV. Since this is the number of total losses in the war! The vast majority of those killed in Vietnam are civilians, victims of carpet bombing. After all, the Vietnamese army did not bomb American cities from the air ?! Therefore, a direct comparison is a little incorrect. In the event of a possible war between the North and the South, casualties among civilians will be approximately at the same level, but, in any case, enormous.
            2. BruderV
              BruderV April 24 2013 00: 02
              -1
              Quote: PSih2097
              And the DPRK has special forces for 100 people. so if you have a rifle with a nightlight or a thermal imaging scope, it’s not a fact that you will have a chance for a second shot (and it’s not a fact that you will even notice them before you are put on your pen or your neck is rolled up

              See more kin about the ninja, captains of America and all sorts of propaganda videos from the DPRK. Spetsnaz around the world is designed for reconnaissance and sabotage activities. I don’t know why you and most people think that special forces are supermen, ninjas, champions in shooting, running and even hell knows what with a pronounced syndrome of immortality. Special Forces are for the most part ordinary saboteurs, the success of which is due to both training and equipment / weapons, which should somehow be behind enemy lines. What will they not throw to the south? You can call anything you like at least special forces, at least the guard, at least space paratroopers, at least an assault special squad to capture galaxies. But from this, the old Kalash and tar flys will not shoot more accurately and further and the Koreans will not have bulletproof vests. By the way, at least one photo in the studio of the North Korean body armor. No? That's it. Let me explain this means any shrapnel wound and immediately minus the fighter, either in the coffin, or disabled, or chained to a bed for a long time.
  4. cyclist
    cyclist April 23 2013 08: 41
    +1
    North Korea's air defense systems are also armed with relatively new KN-06 systems, an analogue of the Chinese HQ-16 system, which in turn is a copy of the C-300
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal April 23 2013 09: 23
      0
      Quote: cyclist
      North Korea's air defense systems are also armed with relatively new KN-06 systems, an analogue of the Chinese HQ-16 system, which in turn is a copy of the C-300


      - Well, HZ.
    2. Bongo
      Bongo April 23 2013 09: 23
      +5
      Why do you think so? a source of information?
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt April 24 2013 02: 49
        +2
        Quote: Bongo
        The source of information?
        And the link and photo of the radar in the parade and information hi http://gunm.ru/news/kim_chen_yn_u_novogo_severokorejskogo_zrk_kn_06/2012-05-04-1
        032
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 24 2013 02: 59
          +2
          the link does not work ... The other day, the head of the DPRK, comrade Kim Jong-un, visited the Air Command and Air Defense Forces of the Korean People’s Army. Of the curious, one can note the fragment seen in one photograph taken near the launcher of the new North Korean air defense system KN-06.
          Transport and launch containers of the KN-06 SAM I anti-aircraft missile system resemble TPKs deployed on Russian S-300P air defense systems.
          Here they are at the military parade in Pyongyang - note that a radar with an active phased array is used: It was written that this system was developed with the participation of Iran. In any case, the fact that a similar air defense system appeared in Iran simultaneously with the Korean one is an established fact, and this is clearly not an accidental coincidence.
    3. Akatsubasa
      Akatsubasa April 23 2013 10: 16
      +5
      The northerners are not very profitable to attack. If there is aggression on their territory or not so far from the border of the countries, then most likely the mountain guerrillas will gnaw all these "modern" tanks or armored vehicles stuffed with electronics. Do not forget that even such backward countries have the simplest EMP generators, and a couple of villages of red partisans will happily be left without electricity for a couple of days (as usual) to destroy the enemy. Everything is far from as straightforward as it seems to the Americans) For them, North Korea will become another Vietnam if they decide to poke their heads in there)
      1. cyclist
        cyclist April 23 2013 12: 58
        +3
        I completely agree, taking into account the fact that about 180 defense plants of the DPRK are hidden underground
    4. Bongo
      Bongo April 24 2013 15: 43
      +5
      LAW HQ-16, is not a copy of the C-300P, it uses a much lighter rocket, in the class Cube-Book. A copy of the C-300 is HQ-9. Yes, and the C-300 in China are available.
      But in any case, if the DPRK managed to create an air defense system of this class. then this is a big breakthrough for them, although this raises certain doubts. In addition, the unknown characteristics of the system and the number.
  5. Bongo
    Bongo April 23 2013 08: 43
    +6
    The author apparently does not know, but the S-25 "Berkut" air defense system is in service in the DPRK, but the Buk is still not. The latter, apparently mistakenly taken for the Kvadrat air defense system, is an export version of the Cuba.
    In general, the nomenclature of weapons of the DPRK Air Force and Air Defense, is represented weakly.
    Here is a much more detailed article on this topic:

    http://my.mail.ru/community/miravia/7551BCA310721BAC.html
  6. Nayhas
    Nayhas April 23 2013 08: 52
    +4
    Who cares how many tanks and planes Eun has, the main thing is the scarce fuel reserves, in the best of times when the USSR drove Kim for just tons of gasoline and aviation kerosene, Korean pilots flew on the principle of flying one another. What to say about the present. If the conflict goes into the hot phase, everything will be limited to exchanging artillery and missile attacks, as well as aviation, they will not cross the border, South Korea, because of the danger of nuclear weapons at the border, the DPRK is afraid that after crossing the border soldiers will shoot commissars and informers, drop their weapons and surrender.
    1. core
      core April 23 2013 16: 29
      +2
      thought so in 41, but broke off. you don’t have to translate everything into money, there is also the concept of the MOTHERLAND.
  7. tan0472
    tan0472 April 23 2013 09: 06
    0
    I read somewhere about North Korean baby submarines. Interestingly, and with their help it is possible to deliver a nuclear charge? (mine, torpedo)
    1. Bongo
      Bongo April 23 2013 09: 37
      +4
      Theoretically, yes, but the point is North Korean charges, these are very bulky devices. Squeezing them into the size of a torpedo is out of the question ... in the "best" case, they are applicable as nuclear bombs
      1. Akatsubasa
        Akatsubasa April 23 2013 10: 20
        +2
        In the tradition of Juche, there could be a tactic of ritual self-destruction of the boat in the name of a great idea!) The only drawback of such tactics is the small number of such small boats)
  8. Dangerous
    Dangerous April 23 2013 09: 14
    0
    Something has not been heard in recent days about the DPRK and its half-armed leader. Interesting all the same, it turns out - the whole world stirred up and calmed down, but nothing will happen to him for it
    1. Skunk
      Skunk April 23 2013 22: 35
      -1
      Most importantly, he will not have food for this. When dad worked, the parent scares everyone and they provide him with humanitarian assistance. And Eun seems to have something unsettled. Not only was the world community not very serious about the demarche, it also seemed like they would not give food in exchange for reducing tension. In short, a young man, to study and study with the older generation ... laughing
  9. Scythian 35
    Scythian 35 April 23 2013 09: 16
    -4
    The author is trying to somehow rehabilitate the armed forces of the DPRK. Modern history already knows what millions of armies are worth. There was also a million-strong army in Iraq, and where is it ??? And this is despite the fact that the armament of Iraq in the early 90s was more new and completely similar to the DPRK today! The funny thing is that "South Korean artillery guns have a caliber of up to 170 millimeters." When it is 170 mm. the DPRK howitzer with a rate of fire of 1 shot per 5 minutes has become a standard for imitation and comparison.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo April 23 2013 09: 30
      +9
      Do not compare the army of the DPRK and Iraq, at least the ground forces. They have different training and motivation. If the United States and the Republic of Korea were to be sure of an easy victory, then the Kim dynasty in the North would not have been long ...
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 23 2013 10: 09
      +8
      Quote: Scythian 35
      Recent history already knows what are worth millions of armies.

      The multimillion army of the multimillion army of strife. Iraq is an Islamic state whose inhabitants a priori do not have a sense of patriotism. SK is another matter, they will gnaw with their teeth, nobody canceled the political departments.
  10. vladkust
    vladkust April 23 2013 10: 18
    +1
    This confrontation, mutual threats, at least another five to ten years will last until their "puppeteers" push to the war, this is the United States for the south, for the north of China, the United States now does not need a war yet there is still a place in their national debt although period no return has already been passed, and when they need to bring down here they will untie the hands of the southerners, as for China, the economic boom has already begun to decline, but building up forces to openly resist amers will still take five to ten years again ... conclusions we live in peace and work for the good of our country drinks
  11. SPQR
    SPQR April 23 2013 10: 41
    0
    It will be like the first Korean front line back and forth and everything will return to where it started.
  12. fartfraer
    fartfraer April 23 2013 12: 00
    +5
    I read about the equipment) I can not help but insert my replica-2004-2006 contract on the armament of a tank company of the T62 regiment)) this is just for "patriots" who were not in the army and do not know that we also have outdated weapons in a dump. Budanovskiy regiment in Chicha (160 t.) fought on 62. and was one of the best. a coward and in a "computerized" tank will get bad, and a warrior will tear anyone at 62. this is shown by our not long history. question one-can can the southerners give a worthy rebuff to the northerners, having money and consumption as an ideology? and the northerners have only two options - either scatter and lose (the Vlasov army is something similar), or they rally and break the southerners with their money. (and then it doesn't matter whether or not they have modern technology).
    1. cyclist
      cyclist April 23 2013 13: 02
      +3
      ideology is worth a lot with you, and 88-120 thousand soldiers of the Special Forces can talk about something!
  13. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 23 2013 12: 21
    -1
    In the case of the beginning of a new Korean War, the northerners will be defeated.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 23 2013 14: 21
      +1
      I agree, but not the southerners, but the states will defeat them.
      1. I think so
        I think so April 23 2013 20: 12
        +1
        First, the states will allow the northerners to defeat the southerners and the Japanese, and only then they will defeat the northerners ... if they can ... they will also get a fair amount, despite the alleged missile defense ... it is like a bullet - a fool, it is not known where and when it will explode ...
  14. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer April 23 2013 13: 08
    +3
    I remember that such comparison articles were written before the Gulf War. Compared the tank aircraft and their number. Only all these comparisons turned out to be worthless. Wars have not been won by armored vehicles for a long time, but by ideology. All this Juche tinsel will sprinkle at the first weakening of control, which will inevitably happen due to hostilities. Endless rows of deserters and refugees will stretch from North to South and China. And if the southerners get the sunshine leader with a rocket, then here is the end of the DPRK.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 23 2013 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: Drosselmeyer
      I remember that such comparison articles were written before the Gulf War. Compared the tank aircraft and their number. Only all these comparisons turned out to be worthless. Wars have not been won by armored vehicles for a long time, but by ideology. All this Juche tinsel will sprinkle at the first weakening of control, which will inevitably happen due to hostilities. Endless rows of deserters and refugees will stretch from North to South and China. And if the southerners get the sunshine leader with a rocket, then here is the end of the DPRK.

      You're not right. For example, the United States won the second war in Iraq with money, bribing the right people, and they didn’t come up with anything new. And if you fail to bribe, then armored vehicles will go into business.
      1. Drosselmeyer
        Drosselmeyer April 24 2013 01: 32
        0
        You did not understand. Ideology is not bribery. The US bent Iraq for the second time not only because of bribery. This is secondary. Saddam was tired of everyone in Iraq and could not offer, as the leader of the state, the people of Iraq, a motive for the battle for their homeland. The Americans offered money to the right people, and simple "freedom" to ordinary people. It's like the Orange Revolution, but with air support. It will be the same in the DPRK. They will be offered basic needs: to eat enough, freely buy necessary things (and not necessary), legally start their own business, etc. I am sure that the people of the DPRK subconsciously understand the miserable existence of their country. At least by the example of China, where many go to work.
        The population of the USSR was also offered 25 types of sausages, the freedom to buy jeans and canned beer. Bought.
  15. black_eagle
    black_eagle April 23 2013 13: 58
    +2
    Well, Su-25 for DPRK is definitely there, although it is not written anywhere)))))))) 2 pcs. exactly
    1. Bongo
      Bongo April 24 2013 01: 48
      +4
      Quote: black_eagle
      Well, Su-25 for DPRK is definitely there, although it is not written anywhere)))))))) 2 pcs. exactly


      They are not 2, but about 12pcs. In all reference books there is information. Delivered at the end of 80's
      1. black_eagle
        black_eagle April 24 2013 13: 27
        -1
        not in all directories
  16. cyclist
    cyclist April 23 2013 13: 59
    0
    smile Among other things, the South Korean army has 70 Russian-made BMP-3 vehicles. In 2009, deliveries of the new K21 IFV began. More than a hundred vehicles have already been delivered; a total of 900 such BMPs are planned to be assembled. smile In addition, there are a number of Russian S-300 systems delivered in the nineties. smile
    Interestingly, Russian-made military equipment was delivered from Russian plants for South Korea, we probably liked their TVs and cars laughing
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 23 2013 20: 08
      0
      And here is the South Korean tank crew. T-80U
      1. Kuzkin Batyan
        Kuzkin Batyan April 24 2013 08: 32
        0
        And why do they whistle, do they have a turbine that costs?
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 24 2013 13: 45
          0
          Of course, a gas turbine engine
  17. 101
    101 April 23 2013 14: 03
    +1
    Quote: Akatsubasa
    For them, North Korea will be the next Vietnam, if they decide to go there)
    And something that the Americans would suddenly want to measure with one of the Marines better. With the help of cruise missiles and a UAV, they will be quite comfortable sorting out heroes from the DPR of the United States before they were not seen trying to act heroically and then blood will suddenly break. No, it doesn't smell like fools. Koreans wash themselves. if something Well, amers will correct the devices and make corrections for smart bombs and nothing else
    1. core
      core April 23 2013 16: 36
      0
      cruise missiles will fly in response, the current Chinese-made. and more than hundreds of cr missiles will not cause any damage to the SK. no goals.
      1. smprofi
        smprofi April 23 2013 18: 49
        +2
        Quote: core
        Chinese-made current

        not necessarily Chinese. laughter laughter (if anyone really wants), but the DPRK successfully does its own thing and sells. the same SCADAS.


        or here in Iran MLRS Korean production (North Korean)
    2. smprofi
      smprofi April 23 2013 18: 42
      0
      Quote: 101
      And then something Americanos suddenly want to measure someone Marines are cooler

      so ... try


      April 22, Pohang, Gyeongsangbuk-do Province, South Korea
      1. 101
        101 April 23 2013 19: 26
        0
        Quote: smprofi
        April 22, Pohang, Gyeongsangbuk-do Province, South Korea

        All the same, I do not believe. They will guard in the rear until the Koreans bleed their blood both north and south.
        1. smprofi
          smprofi April 23 2013 22: 02
          0
          Quote: 101
          I don’t believe it anyway

          yes to me what? cram more photos? or tell us that the gringos on Guam have transferred the B-2 Spirit and increased on the Kadena Air Base, in Nippon, the number of F-15 Eagle and F-22 Raptor?
  18. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city April 23 2013 16: 02
    +5
    Everyone for some reason forgot this war will not be partisan. And the United States is hardly ready for such a war. They forgot how to fight mass battles. If the DPRK regime persists in the early days of 30000 amers in the PRC kirdyk. They won’t even be in time for reinforcements. And it’s not a fact that China will not give fuel. Even in Iraq, the Amers got on completely when they were resisted. For example, in only one battle they lost 60 tanks. Or when the Iraqi tank division entered Saudi Arabia. Even El Falujah Example. 2000 brigades were held back by 4 brigades. Rather, the army of the PRC will run away spoiled by the American way of life. An example is the 1st Korean or Vietnamese war when the armies of the southerners simply scattered.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 23 2013 17: 00
      +4
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      Example The first Korean or Vietnam war when the armies of the southerners simply scattered.

      This is the problem of all mercenary (professional) armies. There is a question of recruiting, who and why goes to the army. A person entering the army for a "long ruble" will not die for his homeland.
  19. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 23 2013 18: 29
    0
    If it comes to a fight, the fanaticism factor will be able to influence very much for the DPRK. These are not Iraqis who fled, even with much more recent weapons.
  20. I think so
    I think so April 23 2013 19: 52
    -3
    What is there to compare the "strength" of the parties, the DPRK is orders of magnitude stronger because of their nuclear weapons. South Koreans are so stupid that they do not understand that they are being framed for nuclear distribution by their American "friends." And it is profitable to wipe out one, or better, two (South Korea and Japan) competitors from the face of the psi. In the USA, work will immediately increase instead of Samsung, Apple, instead of Daevo and Toyota, Chrysler and Ford, etc. Then loans for "restoration" ... I feel sorry for the South Koreans - their leaders are idiots and will burn all together to the delight of the p.i.n.d.s.t.a.n.u.
    1. cyclist
      cyclist April 23 2013 20: 07
      0
      I think that the conflict between the two Koreas will not have time to grow to serious hostilities, since it is unprofitable for many, including China and Japan, they will rather play with muscles and disperse!
      1. I think so
        I think so April 23 2013 20: 20
        0
        The DPRK will not be the first to attack, but if at least one shot is fired at their territory, they will start and begin IMMEDIATELY with the nuclear bombing of US bases in South Korea and Japan. Well, then, if they start to be hit with cruise missiles, they will in response burn cities - Seoul, Tokyo ... Strange as it may seem, the United States and possibly China are seeking it ...
    2. BruderV
      BruderV April 23 2013 22: 08
      -1
      Quote: I think so
      South Koreans are so stupid that they do not understand that they are being framed for nuclear distribution by their American "friends

      Smarter than you. They bought the Patriots, set up Aegis destroyers. There was a lot of noise from Iraqi SCADAS, and the coalition’s damage from their use was minimal. And now go not the 91st year.
  21. nok01
    nok01 April 23 2013 22: 39
    0
    I do not see any reason for Russia to interfere in a possible war ... These guys will figure it out the same way as 50 years ago. On the other hand, of course, I want the people of the DPRK to free themselves of course from this family of "leaders" who imagined themselves to be "GODS"! (I read an article by our tourist, who had not been there for an excursion, so the hair stands on end, our 37 year is just resting ... everything has been brought to such insanity!)
  22. Phoenix-D
    Phoenix-D April 23 2013 23: 37
    +2
    It is unlikely that the Americans will dare to attack North Korea. As Robert Heinlein said, "The American eagle has long eaten only carrion and never attacks an equal in strength" ...
  23. Harleone
    Harleone April 24 2013 22: 09
    0
    Straight Zerg vs Terran wink
  24. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 25 2013 00: 07
    0
    terrible grief when you have to compare the attacking potentials of two parts of one people ...
  25. RussischGenosse
    RussischGenosse 24 May 2013 19: 00
    0
    Personally, my opinion on this issue is to maintain neutrality, but in every possible way try not to give the United States and South Korea the opportunity to aggravate the situation. In my opinion, any country has the right to create both a peaceful and a military atom. If in this situation you do not escalate and wind that which is not there, then you could help on the contrary. And these damn Americans, they only know how to take care of their skin, and they do not care about the rest of the world. They only know what is good for them, and not when they do not know what is good for others. Tokaya is my position and Iran. You cannot forbid an entire country to do something that does not threaten international security, and even if it did. USA does not interfere.