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CSTO, Karimov and the US State Department. Central Asia in foreboding ...

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The less time left before the implementation of the plans of the ISAF command of the large-scale withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan in the 2014 year, the more information, one way or another connected with the withdrawal of troops, comes through various news agencies. We did not have time to discuss the question of what supposedly NATO is going to ask (or even already asked) informational assistance from Russia in terms of organizing the withdrawal of its contingent from Afghanistan, as it is time to discuss thematic news slightly different character.


CSTO, Karimov and the US State Department. Central Asia in foreboding ...


One of such news can be considered the news of the first CSTO retreat on the territory of Kyrgyzstan. It would seem that the meeting of the representatives of the Collective Security Treaty Organization could be classified as ordinary, but the issues that were raised during the meeting were far from ordinary. The fact is that members of the delegations discussed the possibility of creating a special aviation segment in the territory of Kyrgyzstan that will solve problems in Central Asia. It is planned that aviation CSTO (attack aircraft and fighters) will be deployed at a Russian military base in Kant. Actually, the meeting of the CSTO representatives took place on this basis. During the meeting, the CSTO Secretary General Nikolai Bordyuzha announced that the inspection of the base in Kant is aimed at revealing the readiness of this object to fulfill the tasks set by the Collective Security Council. After conducting a kind of tour of the military base, Bordyuzha noted:

I believe that the base, in terms of its existing capacity, infrastructure and personnel training, is ready to carry out any tasks, and, if necessary, to build up forces. The Kant air base has very serious capabilities to provide cover for the actions of the CSTO aimed at preserving the sovereignty and integrity of our states.


It is noteworthy that before this the CSTO did not have its own aircraft. Now the organization is obviously going to strengthen its influence in a highly explosive (due to the announced withdrawal of ISAF troops from Afghanistan) region. And the aviation option of increasing the share of the organization, at least on a regional scale, looks very appropriate.

Immediately after the decision that the CSTO would acquire its own air group (the proportions of military aircraft provided by the member states have not yet been officially announced), Nikolai Bordyuzha was asked why the organization needed its own aviation, and why the deployment of the CSTO aviation group would be made in Kant. The Secretary General replied that the creation of the CSTO aviation group is connected with the fact that there are certain threats that one way or another can manifest themselves during or after the withdrawal of the US military and its allies from Afghanistan. At the same time, Bordyuzha emphasized that the initiative to deploy the air group in Kyrgyzstan did not come exclusively from the Russian side. According to him, it was a "common initiative of some CIS countries." The head of the CSTO also said that after the withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan, the situation there would most likely be destabilized and could have a negative impact on the entire Central Asian region, which the CSTO will withstand.

It is noteworthy that at about the same time, the President of the Republic of Uzbekistan was active. Mr. Karimov, who last year once again expressed his intention to suspend Uzbekistan’s membership in the CSTO, and the membership was not only suspended, but stopped altogether, decided rather unexpectedly to fly to Moscow and invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to visit Tashkent on an official visit. As they say, what could it be? ..

At the talks between the Russian and Uzbek leaders, among the issues of increasing trade between countries and cultural exchange, the issue of security was raised in the very Central Asian region to which Uzbekistan has a direct relationship. In a statement to the press, the heads of state noted that the conversation touched on the withdrawal of coalition forces from Afghanistan, after which the agreement was reached on joint monitoring of the situation. In addition, they agreed on the need to provide all possible support to the Afghan authorities in terms of countering the threat of the spread of terrorism, extremism, as well as the threat of drugs.

Here are some quotes from the Uzbek president:

It must be said that in connection with the upcoming withdrawal of peacekeeping forces after 2014 from Afghanistan (it can be said that this process has practically begun), the current situation in the region has, I would say, a downward trend. And this can not be denied, this is indicated by the facts.


Radicalism is growing all over the world. Uzbekistan is in favor of expanding and deepening close cooperation with Russia within the framework of the UN, the SCO, the CIS and other authoritative international organizations. And in this regard, I want to express a feeling of special respect for the place and role of Russia in the future development of the CIS.


And everything connected with shahids, others, third, - in the world as a whole, radicalism is growing. And it is not a secret that what began in North Africa, in the region of the Persian Gulf, and so on, all this is intended to penetrate into those territories that seem to them quite suitable for them. And in this regard, we in Central Asia, in Central Asia, feel it. Therefore, we are very interested in Russia's opinion on this issue, the vision of Russia in this matter.


Interestingly, since when did Islam Abduganievich again become interested in Russia's opinion in terms of the spread of global radicalism, and why did the president of Uzbekistan suddenly express concern about the withdrawal of the NATO coalition from Afghanistan? After all, I remember that quite recently official Tashkent, on the contrary, was waiting for the withdrawal of American troops from the state of Afghanistan endured by the war, with enthusiasm, as Washington seemed to have promised Tashkent to leave almost a part of its weapons. And now the joyful expectation suddenly changed to the very opposite feeling, and so much changed that Karimov was even drawn to Moscow and made him utter unexpectedly high-flown words about Russia and the CIS, which quite recently were not expected to be heard from either Tashkent or Moscow. Has there been a click in the mind of Islam Abduganievich, who again brought the Uzbek leader to the idea of ​​rapprochement with Russia (or even with the Collective Security Treaty Organization, the membership of Uzbekistan in which to suspend more than once by the will of Uzbekistan). It is possible that it was this click that happened, because Karimov practically directly expresses concerns about the export of radicalism, which, he said, is intended to penetrate into Central Asia.

But didn’t the Uzbek president guess about this when he arranged his demarche with the regular suspension of CSTO membership and a sharp reversal of Uzbek friendship towards overseas partners? Are the words about friendship and partnership from the United States so fog the mind? ..

It is noteworthy that immediately after Islam Karimov flew to Russia, the American State Department manifested itself. Representatives of the US Department of State published a report stating that human rights violations are being recorded in Uzbekistan. “Experts” revealed that the Uzbek authorities give permission for torture of prisoners, restrict the rights of religious minorities, practice arbitrary arrests of unwanted people, restrict the rights of women, cut freedom of speech and even use slave labor on cotton plantations. In addition, top political officials of Uzbekistan are convicted by the US State Department of corruption activities. As they say, the entire set, which allows you to begin the procedure of exporting democracy, is presented. It's amazing how else the “experts” of the State Department did not publish materials that the Uzbek authorities drink the blood of Christian babies or use chemical weapons in the central market of Bukhara ...

I wonder if at least Islam Karimov himself knew about the upcoming report in the US? Is this why he suddenly became kindled with friendliness towards Russia? Or has the State Department decided to punish Karimov for his talks with Vladimir Putin with his report?

Anyway, Central Asia really turns into a zone of large-scale geopolitical tectonics. And if the military-political earthquake in the region becomes quite possible, then it’s really time to move away from mutual reproaches and personal ambitions, and focus on strengthening common security.
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  1. lexa333
    lexa333 April 23 2013 08: 01 New
    +5
    probably the Americans have little to offer.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 23 2013 08: 24 New
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      Quote: lexa333
      probably the Americans have little to offer.

      Rather, they offered so much and with such requirements that Karimov understood what this could lead to. Although there is another option, eat the fish and do not wash the pan.
      1. Pit
        Pit April 23 2013 10: 03 New
        10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Although there is another option, eat the fish and do not wash the pan.

        This option is more plausible, with one exception. They realized that they could not see the fish, and they would have to wash the pan in any way.
      2. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 April 23 2013 10: 18 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        and eat the fish and do not wash the pan.

        and eat a fish, and leave a frying pan for yourself repeat
        1. strannik595
          strannik595 April 23 2013 11: 37 New
          +7
          Mr. Karimov ........ decided quite unexpectedly to fly to Moscow and invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to pay an official visit to Tashkent. As the saying goes, why would it? .. ........... he doesn’t have such support as Assad’s, and bearded men will knock on his door tonight ..... I just don’t understand, he’s not stupid, he don’t understand what wagging booty will not bring to good?
          1. patline
            patline April 23 2013 14: 04 New
            -1
            He’s not going anywhere from a submarine. One way or another, he will have to be in the CSTO, and in the Eurasian Economic Community and the Customs Union, Uzbekistan will also have to join.
            1. vlad767
              vlad767 April 23 2013 17: 15 New
              +7
              Accept Potential Traitors EXTREMELY UNWANTED. stop
          2. Goldmitro
            Goldmitro April 23 2013 22: 56 New
            0
            We would need to know Mr. Kerimov’s wise Russian proverbs, in particular, DO NOT DRINK WELL, it’s useful to drink water! Immediately with respect, love and friendship for Russia, he ignited when he realized that the West had put him on the line for democratization after Assad. An instructive example for all CIS Russophobes with a marginalized historical memory who love to blame Russia for all mortal sins!
          3. Goldmitro
            Goldmitro April 23 2013 22: 57 New
            0
            We would need to know Mr. Kerimov’s wise Russian proverbs, in particular, DO NOT DRINK WELL, it’s useful to drink water! Immediately with respect, love and friendship for Russia, he ignited when he realized that the West had put him on the line for democratization after Assad. An instructive example for all CIS Russophobes with a marginalized historical memory who love to blame Russia for all mortal sins!
      3. Yazov
        Yazov April 23 2013 16: 33 New
        -1
        What kind of fish can be when he himself is almost in a frying pan. After 14 years it will be hot in all of Central Asia.
  2. Denis
    Denis April 23 2013 08: 10 New
    +1
    NATO is going to ask (or even already asked) for information assistance from Russia in terms of organizing the withdrawal of its contingent from Afghanistan
    Can’t you recognize the allies of the Gaybrit? They have considerable experience in that, they left more than once
  3. UFO
    UFO April 23 2013 08: 24 New
    17
    Karimov turned his nose - the "fried meat" smelled, and pilaf had nothing to do with it. But do we need such an “unfaithful wife”? request
    1. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 23 2013 09: 02 New
      19
      Quote: UFO
      Do we need such a "unfaithful wife"?

      Neither she is needed, nor her many "relatives"
      1. Civil
        Civil April 23 2013 10: 02 New
        +3
        "Explosion" in Uzbekistan threatens Russia - with millions of refugees, which the former conditional adversary will be extremely happy
        1. aktanir
          aktanir April 23 2013 10: 32 New
          +9
          We do not have a common border with Uzbekistan, refugees will go to Kazakhstan, possibly to Kyrgyzstan, and it is unlikely that to Tajikistan. In principle, a powerful bloody mess should happen in Uzbekistan so that the Uzbeks begin to pack their bags, because this people does not really like to change their native land for anything else, this is a mentality. They earn money anywhere, but they still try to live in their homeland.
          My personal opinion: to replace Karimov-chameleon, a small-sized scoundrel, with another president, loyal to Russia and progressive in terms of bringing democracy to his country and actively helping to strengthen the defense capability of this state through the weapons and equipment with which our warehouses are littered. We will replace the dictatorial pseudo-democratic regime, dispose of outdated weapons for free (it will fit in the confrontation with the Taliban) and help the fraternal people.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA April 23 2013 11: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: aktanir
            My personal opinion: to replace Karimov-chameleon, a small-sized scoundrel, with another president, loyal to Russia and progressive in terms of bringing democracy to his country and actively helping to strengthen the defense capability of this state through the weapons and equipment with which our warehouses are littered.

            Yes!
            must be sent there on a business trip to Lukashenko.
          2. UzRus
            UzRus April 23 2013 14: 35 New
            +1
            and help the fraternal people. - You are a plus!
          3. Alibekulu
            Alibekulu April 23 2013 16: 11 New
            +4
            Quote: aktanir
            My personal opinion: Karimov-chameleon, a small-sized scoundrel, to be changed to another president, loyal to Russia и progressive democracy In your country

            He must be loyal to the interests of Uzbekistan, and only Uzbekistan - in the end he is the president of this country ..
            As for bringing democracy, he once said that if he holds democratic elections, a civil war will immediately begin .. soldier
            Something like that.. request
          4. ded
            ded April 23 2013 17: 16 New
            +2
            We do not have a common border with Uzbekistan, refugees will go to Kazakhstan


            I doubt very much that refugees will go to Kazakhstan. Uzbeks and Kazakhs are friends with each other like a cat with a dog.
            1. antiaircrafter
              antiaircrafter April 23 2013 20: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: ded
              I doubt very much that refugees will go to Kazakhstan.

              So they definitely won’t reach Russia.
      2. Old skeptic
        Old skeptic April 23 2013 20: 16 New
        +2
        This is not a wife, and not even a lover, it’s just “PROSTITUTE”
    2. wax
      wax April 23 2013 13: 34 New
      +6
      The Karimovs come and go, but the Uzbek people remain.
      1. UFO
        UFO April 23 2013 13: 47 New
        +2
        So let it remain, I'm FOR! ... at home! yes
        1. UzRus
          UzRus April 23 2013 14: 37 New
          -1
          at home! - And what, someone claims your place in the sun?
  4. Trailer
    Trailer April 23 2013 08: 24 New
    +7
    Karimov, like a weather vane! By golly! And by the way, recently Kazakhstan has concluded an agreement with the USA that they will be able to export their equipment through us. It has been known for a long time that Russia carries NATO cargo on its territory! So, you can blame the Uzbeks for their inconstancy, but we ourselves are also strongly tied to NATO. But rather, the desire of the authorities to return a certain semblance of the USSR - this is what I see in what our bastikas are again stacked up for!
    1. ATATA
      ATATA April 23 2013 10: 06 New
      10
      Quote: Karavan
      Karimov, like a weather vane!

      Which weather vane? ******* !!!
      For a year Nazar didn’t give a damn in the well, and now I wanted to drink some water as cold and clean.
      Such donkeys must be suspended by the eggs, so that others would think in the future!
      Hello! hi
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 April 23 2013 11: 14 New
        +3
        Karimov didn’t give a damn well 22 years ago. When the USSR was.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA April 23 2013 11: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: fzr1000
          Karimov didn’t give a damn well 22 years ago. When the USSR was.

          Then, to this well, everyone who doesn’t care. Do not shit, it was a moviton.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 April 23 2013 11: 22 New
            +2
            Well, paraphrasing- "us ..... lice once, on ... rt continue."
        2. mark021105
          mark021105 April 23 2013 16: 16 New
          0
          Oddly enough, but Karimov was the last in the "parade of sovereignty" ...)) Or maybe not strange. He is a sly fox. He announced sovereignty only when he finally realized that he won’t be “for it”.)) In general, let’s remember that Russia didn’t work out so smoothly with Balarus. Now we can talk about the CES with Belarus and Kazakhstan. How many years have Russia and Belarus tried to create a Union State? In my opinion, it still cannot be said about a full-fledged Union State. Kazakhstan also periodically claims some kind of “own” path. Then he enters into the Turkic Kaganate (if I remember correctly), then Baikonur is the subject of bargaining among them ... So it's not so simple. And by and large, sooner or later, all of Central Asia, sooner or later, will return to the zone of influence of Russia. And it’s not going anywhere. It should not be otherwise.
      2. Don
        Don April 24 2013 15: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: ATATA
        For a year Nazar didn’t give a damn in the well, and now I wanted to drink some water as cold and clean.

        I probably understood that no one except the Russian Federation and possibly Kazakhstan would protect him from internal unrest and radical Islamists. So I come to my senses. I decided to start the dialogue.
    2. avt
      avt April 23 2013 11: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Karavan
      But rather, the desire of the authorities to return a certain semblance of the USSR - this is what I see in what our bastikas are again stacked up for!

      Yeah, and it is desirable according to the formula - that we had everything and we had nothing for it, and after us even a flood.
    3. Maximus
      Maximus April 23 2013 13: 46 New
      +1
      Karimov is trying as in the saying, "And theirs and ours, Mordovians and Chuvashs"
  5. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 23 2013 08: 37 New
    +4
    As the saying goes, the entire set that allows you to start the process of exporting democracy is presented.
    Clearly and well said!
    Karimov understands that the Libyan leader can wait for him!
    They start to think faster when the “Knife” is thrown across the country to the throat!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 23 2013 08: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: Nitarius

      Karimov understands that the Libyan leader can wait for him!

      And probably for this ............. wink
      US Assistant Secretary of State to Visit Uzbekistan
      US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs Robert Blake will visit Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan on April 22-26, 2013.
      http://news.mail.ru/inworld/uzbekistan/politics/12847624/ Так что не все так просто,новые предложения везут из Вашингтона или подарки winked
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny April 23 2013 19: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs Robert Blake will visit Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan on April 22-26, 2013.
        So it’s not so simple, new offers are brought from Washington or gifts


        Let them drive. We’ll listen to offers, accept gifts, hand over a magnet to the refrigerator, wave it with a handkerchief at the airport and ... that's all. Kazakhs do not confuse "tourists" with friends.
    2. open
      open April 23 2013 14: 13 New
      -2
      And Russia does not trust, UN Security Council Russia voted for military intervention against Libya
      1. Don
        Don April 24 2013 15: 07 New
        0
        Quote: abror
        Russia voted for military intervention against Libya

        The Russian Federation voted, not for intervention, but voted for the no-fly zone over Libya. NATO itself later violated the resolution.
  6. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet April 23 2013 08: 42 New
    11
    Political prostitute. Let him go free swimming. It is necessary to solve such things with Belarus, Kazakhstan.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio April 23 2013 18: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      Political prostitute.

      and with what, dear, will you justify your loud statement?

      Quote: Boot under the carpet
      Let him go free swimming.

      And now is not Uzbekistan in free swimming?
  7. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 23 2013 08: 58 New
    +5
    Let dear Central Asia boil in its shit, and let it fight the Taliban itself.
    1. Ram chandra
      Ram chandra April 23 2013 09: 24 New
      12
      Can one also say about the Caucasus then? But Vanya does not understand that the enemies will then get very close to his hut.
      No matter how bad the Uzbeks are, there is no doubt about controlling their territory for their own safety.
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 April 23 2013 10: 11 New
        +5
        So you are worried that we are not worried about you? And the Caucasus-Russian territory is a bad example for comparison.
        1. de_monSher
          de_monSher April 23 2013 14: 01 New
          0
          Vrungel78

          And the Caucasus-Russian territory is a bad example for comparison.


          Mangust_ali, nevertheless, speaks of the South Caucasus, I think ...
        2. Ram chandra
          Ram chandra April 24 2013 07: 20 New
          +1
          Ahem .. already learn to distinguish the flags of the allied states.
    2. Denis_SF
      Denis_SF April 23 2013 15: 12 New
      +4
      Let dear Central Asia boil in its shit and let it fight the Taliban itself

      ... zdets what not considered statement. After they are "welded" in the "dear Central Asia", what do you think, where will they further direct their blurred drug gaze?
      1. UzRus
        UzRus April 23 2013 15: 16 New
        0
        They will probably go around Russia to Europe.
  8. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 April 23 2013 09: 05 New
    -4
    Karimov, come to us! Sweeping Red Square wassat
    1. Armata
      Armata April 23 2013 10: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Vrungel78
      Karimov, come to us! Sweeping Red Square
      This is not so about people. Minus from me. And you have a question. What did the Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Kazakhs and others like them do wrong to you personally? What do you think they are so stupid and unworthy of respect? Or that there are no talented people among them?
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 April 23 2013 11: 20 New
        13
        1. They expelled our compatriots, Russian-speaking, Slavs. And the simple Kyrgyz with the Uzbeks and the company, hooting, gladly participated in this together with the national "ilita".
        2. It has hurt a lot of them in the Russian Federation lately. Love is better at a distance.
        1. The gentleman
          The gentleman April 23 2013 13: 37 New
          0
          ))))))))) wink They expelled our compatriots, Russian-speaking, Slavs. And the simple Kyrgyz with the Uzbeks and the company, hooting, gladly participated in this together with the nat "ilita". When was it ???
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 April 23 2013 14: 37 New
            -1
            -Sure! There was no such thing! This is all the Uruslars invented!
            1. de_monSher
              de_monSher April 23 2013 14: 49 New
              +3
              saygon66

              -Sure! There was no such thing! This is all the Uruslars invented!


              And who are mysterious - uruslari? You remind me, the children of my friends, St. Petersburg, who are no-no, but trying to speak with a "Central Asian" accent, in order to show the comic or stupidity of the moment ... *)

              ummm ... probably the word you wanted to use will still be more correct - Orislar, what you wanted to say ... *) with the first letter, the sound of the middle between "O" and "U".
            2. The gentleman
              The gentleman April 23 2013 15: 12 New
              +3
              and what does the “Uruses” have to do with it. Firstly, I didn’t talk about Russians, secondly, ours can also come up with them, went over the hill and let's water it all. Only after many years, they begin to remember their homeland with warmth.
              1. saygon66
                saygon66 April 23 2013 15: 35 New
                +4
                - I always remember my homeland with warmth! But I don’t want to live a second-rate person in my homeland! To be “Russian-speaking” is also! And for incorrect pronunciation - do not exact, I forget as unnecessary ...
                1. de_monSher
                  de_monSher April 23 2013 15: 40 New
                  0
                  saygon66

                  No, no ... no complaints against you. Just a feeling ummmm ... literacy, or what? I just write it myself, only in Russian - and therefore such a special attitude to the "skewing" of words.

                  And even more so, there are no complaints about your choice - a person lives where his soul lies to live ... *)
                  1. saygon66
                    saygon66 April 23 2013 16: 08 New
                    0
                    -Amendment accepted!
                2. The gentleman
                  The gentleman April 23 2013 15: 44 New
                  +2
                  plus you for your comment.
                3. UzRus
                  UzRus April 23 2013 15: 47 New
                  +2
                  For example, I don’t feel like a second-class person here.
                  1. saygon66
                    saygon66 April 23 2013 16: 09 New
                    0
                    - Here it is....?
                    1. UzRus
                      UzRus April 23 2013 17: 27 New
                      0
                      - HERE - this is in Uzbekistan.
                      1. saygon66
                        saygon66 April 24 2013 14: 44 New
                        0
                        - There is a question! What provides you with such a comfortable feeling? Perfect knowledge of language and customs, financial well-being, social status, salary and military rank? In no case do not hesitate - I want to understand, m. what has changed from 90's for the better, and what was not enough for those who moved out and continues to leave!
                      2. de_monSher
                        de_monSher April 24 2013 22: 15 New
                        0
                        What provides you with such a comfortable feeling?


                        saygon66

                        UzRus I did not answer you, but I actually have a question for you. Why did you actually have this question? For you, Uzbekistan is another planet, a galaxy? Why, ummmmmm ... for example, you do not have a question what many Russians choose as their place of residence, for example ... mmmmmm ... well, the USA, Canada, Britain, France, Germany - somehow corny, all- mentally, in everyday terms, these countries are close to us all, former residents of the USSR ... and for example, Thailand, Vietnam, the UAE? (many of my friends from St. Petersburg and Moscow prefer to live there).

                        Why, in fact, did you have this question? Especially about Uzbekistan ... especially about Tashkent. Given that this is a typical city, the old, Sovetsky is still “tempering”, with Imperial nostalgia, and still quite Russian-speaking.
        2. Vrungel78
          Vrungel78 April 24 2013 13: 28 New
          0
          As for the Kyrgyz, I will definitely say. He studied at school with 2 guys who arrived with a difference of three months, telling the same stories about this. Are they lying? Why then had to leave their homes? Put yourself in their place.
      2. de_monSher
        de_monSher April 23 2013 14: 14 New
        +1
        fzr1000

        1. They expelled our compatriots, Russian-speaking, Slavs.


        Wuhu ... a case reminded me of this. The year 2001 was sort of. I run into the office of one company in Tashkent. Well ... the team is international, all the guys and girls are young, under 30 years old. The director is Russian. In general, I run in and they think a hard thought there. The task is simple - there is a guy, Russian. He just needs to quickly obtain Russian citizenship. The question is how? Here, the director dawned:

        - We do it! he says. - Here you are, Ula = this is the employee of his company = you go along with Sasha = we will call them like this - Ula and Sasha = to the Russian embassy on the day when there is no reception. There are a bunch of cameras and video registries at the gates, right? In general, you Ula, strengthened and "maliciously" "humiliating" Sasha in full view of the cameras, according to national and linguistic principles. You do it loud, long and most importantly - truthfully. So that they believe you. And that’s all ... and it’s all about the hat - Sasha can appeal to Russia as a refugee ...

        All the guys accepted the director’s proposal with enthusiasm, only Ula was dissatisfied and argued that he would live in Uzbekistan, and he would not be patted on the head for this theater.

        In general, it was all a playful sketch. But these events took place in Tashkent. Later, about two years ago, I met Sasha in Sevastopol, and Ulu, in Moscow, they moved there to live.

        Here are some pies ...
        1. UzRus
          UzRus April 23 2013 14: 46 New
          +2
          de_monSher (3), and now we also live and work together normally.
      3. UzRus
        UzRus April 23 2013 14: 23 New
        +4
        fzr1000, I wrote many times that NOT THE WHOLE PEOPLE drove us Russians out. There were SEPARATE scum, of which there are many in every nation, which the Uzbeks themselves plugged.
        1. The gentleman
          The gentleman April 23 2013 14: 28 New
          0
          there were many of them and the locals (Uzbeks) themselves suppressed them. We have always been accepted normally, but so that the stories where the Slavs, the Russians massively destroyed, did not hear, and there wasn’t such.
          1. UzRus
            UzRus April 23 2013 14: 44 New
            +2
            Exactly - there wasn’t mass. And now ordinary Uzbeks are well towards Russia and Russians.
            1. The gentleman
              The gentleman April 23 2013 15: 29 New
              +6
              I don’t know how strange it turns out that as an Uzbek, I speak Russian without problems and without accent, I have a lot of friends of Russian nationality. And many of my friends are Uzbeks who speak Russian without any problems. It’s easy to carry heresy when you are here you aren’t. And the fact that ordinary Uzbeks are good is true. You must admit that there are many places where Russians and Uzbeks live together, and by the way it will be said that we celebrate holidays together
              1. UzRus
                UzRus April 23 2013 15: 44 New
                +2
                I agree!
                1. bazilio
                  bazilio April 23 2013 18: 22 New
                  +2
                  Quote: UzRus
                  simple Uzbeks are good, it's true. you must admit that there are many places where Russians and Uzbeks live together, and by the way it will be said that we celebrate holidays together


                  I confirm with my example.
                  About the holidays, on Navruz, the Uzbeks next door serve sumalak, including Russians, the Russians, in turn, offer Easter rolls / pies to neighboring Uzbeks for Easter.
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 24 2013 13: 30 New
      0
      I personally suggested to Karimov, and not to everyone. But I did not say a word about stupidity. Do not think for me.
  • DeerIvanovich
    DeerIvanovich April 23 2013 09: 25 New
    +3
    well, maybe this is a multi-step, and Putin and Karimov knew that in the end, the rollback of Uzbekistan was just a tactical move against the amers, and now that the amers have come through what’s happening - a return to the roots, that is, to Russia.
    one must be a fool or a corrupt creature, or both in general, and both together, like the Georgian Galstukoed, in order not to understand that without Russia, the CIS countries are not safe.
    1. to
      to water April 23 2013 16: 29 New
      +3
      There is such a chance that this is a lot of running combination. After the latest statements by Uzbekistan on withdrawal from the CSTO. Its members practically didn’t react at all, which surprised me greatly, even Belarus reacted indifferently to the trick.
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich April 24 2013 13: 54 New
        0
        the way it is, reacted too indifferent
  • sys-1985
    sys-1985 April 23 2013 09: 27 New
    0
    Big brother will not give offense)
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 23 2013 13: 05 New
      -2
      They are not brothers to us.
  • tttttt
    tttttt April 23 2013 09: 28 New
    +9
    Things in Central Asia are wrapped up in earnest. It is the Americans who need to get in. The next goal for destabilization after Syria is Central Asia and not Iran. So not only the air base, it is necessary to expand more broadly and voluminously, and most importantly, decisively advance issues of military presence here. And no "conclusions" of US troops through the territory of Russia naturally. I am generally struck by the logic of the Russian government. If, as it is officially stated, it is beneficial for us to have the amers in Afghanistan, why should they be "released" from there, and even through the center of Russia? Something is very wrong here, although it may be a game, but it would be nice to not play too much. With a sharpie, playing his games is a deliberate loss. The conditions of the game need to be changed, and the only argument that the Americans understand is a fist. The world has come to such a temporary knot, when everything should be decided just about within a year, two years. Each step must be weighed, and made decisively and confidently, and naturally buggers can not be trusted, in the entire history of mankind they have never fulfilled their agreements.
    1. Tektor
      Tektor April 23 2013 12: 09 New
      -1
      It seems that a massive deployment of all types of drones, including drums, is required. Yak-130, Su-25, Ka-52 and much more.
    2. saygon66
      saygon66 April 23 2013 14: 50 New
      0
      -Non-aggression pact of August 23 1939 year ... Second action?
  • SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 23 2013 09: 35 New
    -1
    Get up the huge country !!!
    1. ksandr45
      ksandr45 April 23 2013 11: 24 New
      -1
      Get up to Mortal Kombat !!!
  • igor36
    igor36 April 23 2013 09: 40 New
    +7
    The destabilization of Central Asia is a way to put pressure on Russia and weaken its influence in the world. All the Asian kings will twist the booty where anyone will offer more Vaseline. There are no allies and opponents; there are common interests. And Russia has allies that will never betray - the army, aviation and navy.
  • Semurg
    Semurg April 23 2013 10: 19 New
    +8
    The prince of a small state, to the question of the Chinese emperor why he receives ambassadors from the Khagan of Turks, replied that he was forced to do this in order to preserve the state and his people. Since then, nothing has changed, only players have become more China, Russia, the USA. Russia wants to build a hydropower plant in Kyrgyzstan and in Tajikistan, this greatly affects the interests of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, hence the Karimov’s demarches. The United States is peddling democracy issues from here and trips to Moscow. The Uzbeks need to maneuver, that is, to do their favorite thing to bargain with. China is successfully trading gas and oil is already pumping, roads are being built. I think while Russia and the United States are swaying in Central Asia, China will sit tight (and they will complete the hydropower plants and introduce democracy in the Chinese way).
    1. avt
      avt April 23 2013 11: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Semurg
      The Uzbeks need to maneuver, that is, engage in hobbies. With China, bargaining is successful, gas and oil are already pumping, roads are being built. I think that while Russia and the United States are swaying in Central Asia, China will sit tight (and they will complete the hydropower plants and introduce democracy in the Chinese pattern) .

      request Free choice of free people. What is Russia to blame again?
      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 23 2013 12: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Quote: Semurg
        The Uzbeks need to maneuver, that is, engage in hobbies. With China, bargaining is successful, gas and oil are already pumping, roads are being built. I think that while Russia and the United States are swaying in Central Asia, China will sit tight (and they will complete the hydropower plants and introduce democracy in the Chinese pattern) .

        request Free choice of free people. What is Russia to blame again?

        There is no talk of Russian wine; there is the usual tacking to preserve one’s power and state.
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 23 2013 13: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: Semurg
      Uzbeks need to maneuver

      Uzbeks maneuver, maneuver, but never catch laughing
    3. Ram chandra
      Ram chandra April 24 2013 07: 29 New
      0
      Kazakhstan even?
    4. Don
      Don April 24 2013 15: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Semurg
      and Kazakhstan

      And what does Kazakhstan’s hydroelectric power station hurt?
      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 24 2013 17: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Don
        Quote: Semurg
        and Kazakhstan

        And what does Kazakhstan’s hydroelectric power station hurt?

        The main water releases will be in winter when more electricity is needed, and this threatens flooding of those who live downstream the river because the riverbed freezes and capacity decreases. In summer, on the contrary, when irrigation water is needed, the reservoirs will be filled and the flow of water will decrease, which threatens drought for those who live downstream. Well, Kazakhstan is located downstream of the rivers.
  • avt
    avt April 23 2013 10: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: igor36
    The destabilization of Central Asia is a way to put pressure on Russia and weaken its influence in the world.

    request Yes, in fact, this is not concealed by our probable friends.
    Quote: igor36
    And Russia has allies that will never betray - the army, aviation and navy.

    And here you can’t argue. Here the CSTO itself seems to be a good thing, but who will enlighten me. Besides the secretary of Bordyuzha, is there a commander there? And if so, what does it command? What is this special aviation segment? request This type of patsansky zapadlo go under the command of Moscow, and they themselves will allow the hell to command? So the Gaidar wording was bungled. This is not the Collective Security Treaty Organization but a mess of porridge. According to Karimov, I think so, he understands his position well. And then Rakhmon’s lukum became completely insolent and lost his scent, so Onishchenko and Rogozin went to the restaurant cars and went to look for the rookery. laughing Well, Karimov was allowed into the Kremlin to remember the youth of the party standing. In general, sovereign buy-ins will add a headache to us. It's like a god is holy.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 23 2013 10: 30 New
    +3
    "... the Uzbek president, when he made his demarche with the next suspension of CSTO membership and a sharp turn of Uzbek friendship towards overseas partners .."- it’s the most time for the Russian leadership to put the BEST conditions for Russia before Karimov. hi
    Indeed, back in November 2012, Karimov did not conceal his hostile attitude towards Russia (see http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2012/11/02/1054149.html). So now you can and "recoup" ...
    1. UzRus
      UzRus April 23 2013 14: 30 New
      +1
      it’s time for the Russian leadership to put the BEST conditions for Russia before Karimov. - Yes, it had to be done before, and not carelessly watch how the amers and NATO regularly visit Uzbekistan. And now God himself commanded!
    2. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 April 23 2013 20: 43 New
      0
      Karimbai just looked at the globe and realized that America is far away and Russia is close, and Afghanistan is even closer and will not go anywhere ...
  • krez-74
    krez-74 April 23 2013 10: 57 New
    +4
    Being in modern conditions, the head of state, is not at all easy, especially in a situation where you have to save and develop a country maneuvering between players who are larger! Only fools can laugh at such countries and presidents. Yes, and pulling out individual statements is also not entirely wise.
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz April 23 2013 11: 00 New
    +1
    Ha the CSTO aviation made laugh and how many planes will there be from the CSTO countries ?? it seems that there will be no one else except the Russian aviation. It would be better to call the CSTO RSKB (Russian Collective Security Forces), the lesser name had a more meaningful and real meaning.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus April 23 2013 14: 31 New
      +2
      Most likely, Kazakhstan will also allocate its airplanes, well, Belarus can be. And that’s it!
    2. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu April 23 2013 16: 06 New
      +4
      Kasym quote 17 April 2013 17: 07 ↑
      The Air Force of the Republic of Kazakhstan is the second largest in the post-Soviet space after the Russian Air Force. At their disposal are more than 400 combat aircraft, 80 transport aircraft and 300 helicopters for various purposes.


      Here on the website in the article "The draft agreement on the creation of the CAS CSTO will be presented before the end of the year" was discussed ..
      P.S. I wouldn’t be clever ..
  • avt
    avt April 23 2013 11: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Yeraz
    It would be better to call the CSTO RSKB (Russian Collective Security Forces) in any case the name had a more meaningful and real meaning.

    And so it will happen upon request . Just at the right time, everyone will remember the constitution that does not allow the use of their armed forces abroad, see the absence of an external threat, or announce that their colonialists want to push their foreheads against the fraternal peoples of Turkic blood, but you can justify and tell Bordyuzha that he’s not not a commander but just a secretary, they say go to your secretary to Russia and command there, but here is our land and you are nobody here.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 23 2013 12: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: avt
      Quote: Yeraz
      It would be better to call the CSTO RSKB (Russian Collective Security Forces) in any case the name had a more meaningful and real meaning.

      And so it will happen upon request . Just at the right time, everyone will remember the constitution that does not allow the use of their armed forces abroad, see the absence of an external threat, or announce that their colonialists want to push their foreheads against the fraternal peoples of Turkic blood, but you can justify and tell Bordyuzha that he’s not not a commander but just a secretary, they say go to your secretary to Russia and command there, but here is our land and you are nobody here.

      By the way, it seems like the Old Man operated on that it is impossible to use the Armed Forces abroad under the constitution. The Collective Security Treaty Organization, besides Russia, is beneficial to everyone, the Russian bases were still so, the agreement on them was concluded separately on the basis of bilateral agreements, and not because of the CSTO’s provisions, only in case of protection will there be another reason to poke Russia so here we are in the CSTO to protect us.
      Well, yes, this body allows these countries to buy weapons at domestic prices.
  • Opera
    Opera April 23 2013 11: 18 New
    +2
    Kant airbase is a must. Very timely solution! And Karimov is one of those “friends” with whom relations should be built exclusively on a pragmatic basis!
    1. UzRus
      UzRus April 23 2013 14: 32 New
      +1
      exclusively on a pragmatic basis! - Exactly!
  • pa_nik
    pa_nik April 23 2013 12: 32 New
    +1
    The withdrawal of amers from Afghanistan is a delicate place in the current situation of the alignment of forces. After the withdrawal from Iraq, for example, the internal confrontation did not decrease. Every week - a series of terrorist attacks, hundreds of victims. The lack of a sane economy, jobs, a mass of weapons and the absence of an “American man with a gun” are a great cocktail to start fermenting and supplying fighters in the end. How is Afghanistan different? The presence of ALREADY trained Mujahideen awaiting orders. And the direction of the twisting of Central Asia is not only against Russia .. nuclear Pakistan, China, India are not so far. Plunging the world into "controlled chaos", the American fakirs (in a word picked up laughing ) do not take into account (probably, or maybe achieve this) the possibility of imposing initiated processes, which will lead to the exit of the whole multitude of situations out of control. Then, yes .. "... get up, the country is huge!". hi
  • artemiy
    artemiy April 23 2013 13: 03 New
    0
    Karimov is a political prostitute and that’s it! And let the State Department first deal with guantanomo! And with the oppression of the Native Americans of the Indians!
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman April 23 2013 13: 48 New
      +1
      everything is correct, but as said, reasonably and concisely !!!
  • Kazbek
    Kazbek April 23 2013 13: 06 New
    +4
    Afghans let them figure it out first. It’s one thing for them to partisan and another to climb into someone’s territory, and terrorist attacks can be done even without intrusion. The gut is completely thin, what do you think the Uzbeks don’t hang lyuley on their territory, but under the glands .Afghans do not even have a normal army to make an invasion, but the Uzbeks are not going to climb into Afghanistan, in my opinion.
    1. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 23 2013 13: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Kazbek
      Afghans do not even have a normal army to invade

      However, this "abnormal" army causes much concern to anyone. Russia and the USA including. Do not underestimate the enemy.
    2. UFO
      UFO April 23 2013 13: 54 New
      +2
      I agree almost! Only the Taliban, as the Germans do not fight near Moscow, they first 5 column in Uzb .. do not rock with the help of Hizb-ut-Tahrir or other "teachings". And then - the Uzbeks themselves, from among the "humiliated and offended," will begin to demand "a place in the sun", and then it will start !!! hi
  • Naval
    Naval April 23 2013 13: 23 New
    +1
    In any case, it is better to fight in someone else's territory if Turkestan blazes, and not when the Mujahideen rule in Russia. Therefore, the CSTO and the bases will not hurt.
    1. Ram chandra
      Ram chandra April 24 2013 07: 33 New
      +4
      Turkestan - in our country - in Kazakhstan, and it will not blaze. Kazakhs are not fanatical in matters of religion. We have churches and mosques in our neighborhood.
  • The gentleman
    The gentleman April 23 2013 13: 43 New
    +4
    comrades, comrades. why do we immediately start talking about such dirty things about a person? do we immediately turn to nationalities? and if you look deeper, maybe not everything is on the surface. maybe you still need to compare this with the New Year 2000, when Yeltsin retired ... the situation is important for everyone and requires consideration, resolution
  • saygon66
    saygon66 April 23 2013 13: 50 New
    +1
    - If only these "friends" would not drag us into another meat grinder "for common interest" ... 79 year smelled! Gastarbeiter, be ready to defend the homeland?
  • de_monSher
    de_monSher April 23 2013 13: 55 New
    +3
    Something not a single Uzbek spoke out. I will try, though. Firstly, what will a single airbase without ground infrastructure give? Without a standard set of weather sensors, radars, etc. scattered around the territory of a possible theater? In essence, rhetoric is rhetoric, and we will look at things. No matter how it turned out all the time, as in August 2000, when the Su-shki "worked" for their own special forces company, the mountains were not so far from Tashkent, and they got a bunch of their dead.

    Further, what I have in Karimov’s head, I think, has long been unclear to the whole of Uzbekistan. Overdone and outwitted everyone, even himself, it seems to me. He didn’t want to wish for bad, it’s not good for people to wish for bad, but nevertheless, he was “tired” of everyone. Do not.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus April 23 2013 15: 05 New
      +4
      de_monSher, and speak out? Speak out - and there are a considerable number of personalities on this resource who, in addition to likening the Uzbeks to migrant workers and stamps such as "We learned you, built schools, built roads, etc., and you, ungrateful creatures ..." will dump a bunch of crap again. I have repeatedly said on this resource - If Russia needs Russia geopolitically, as an ally and trade partner, well, it is necessary to pursue an INSPECT policy in relation to Uzbekistan. TO deep Unfortunately, over the past 2-3 years I have not noticed any special activity on the part of Russia here. But the amers with NATO troops cruised almost every month. In order to agree on the withdrawal of its troops from Afghanistan through our territory under the Clintons, the United States removed all restrictions and sanctions from Uzbekistan. I'm not talking about large joint projects with amers, but at least the same huge factory for the production of motor engines, General Motors PowerTrain Uzbekistan, which Clintonsha herself came to open. Well, there is no intelligible policy! Uzbekistan either enters or exits the CSTO - and everyone is silent like a fish on ice! Only one Lukashenko (well done!) Spoke out rather sharply on this subject, the rest either did not want to, or simply kept idle. What you said about Karimov at the end of your post - I completely agree with you. And there is no need to identify Karimov with the entire Uzbek people - leaders come and go, but the PEOPLE remain. Now minus it!
      1. de_monSher
        de_monSher April 23 2013 15: 15 New
        +2
        UzRus

        Now minus it!


        Ummmmm ... should I minus you? *))) I myself am from Uzbekistan, and I think about the same as you ... *)
        1. UzRus
          UzRus April 23 2013 15: 50 New
          +3
          Yes, not you, of course, I meant all the others.
      2. de_monSher
        de_monSher April 23 2013 15: 18 New
        +1
        UzRus

        yes at least the same huge factory for the production of motor engines "General Motors PowerTrain Uzbekistan"


        By the way, has it already been launched? This is on the territory of the former transformer super plant near Lisunovo, which perestroika scum humpback? In 2010 it wasn’t sort of launched yet, I remember exactly ...
        1. The gentleman
          The gentleman April 23 2013 15: 23 New
          +1
          not at all, this is on the side of the Kuyuluk, launched from this year
          1. de_monSher
            de_monSher April 23 2013 15: 30 New
            +1
            Well, yes ... I’m talking about him. In fact, it’s closer to Lisunovo from this plant than to Kuylyuk ...
            1. UzRus
              UzRus April 23 2013 15: 55 New
              +1
              You confuse something. This is if you drive along the concrete road from Kuylyuk towards Sergeli, then on the left side the plant stands in place of the cotton fields. Lisunova is out of place here at all.
              1. de_monSher
                de_monSher April 23 2013 16: 06 New
                0
                Yes ... I'm talking about something else production. So we are talking about different things.
      3. lav566
        lav566 April 23 2013 17: 04 New
        +2
        Russian foreign policy is situational. Thunder will strike, then the Kremlin
        the authorities are baptized. They now seem to have one concern: where
        hide grandmother after shmona in Cyprus. And build you plants
        no one will live in the USSR! They do not build factories in Russia.
        And you want to build with you.
        And the Americans have a clear and clear policy. According to the accepted
        strategic decisions. They have very big plans.
        1. UzRus
          UzRus April 23 2013 17: 34 New
          +1
          lav566Well, free then right now of course no one is building anything for anyone. The factory I mentioned above is a joint venture.
          1. lav566
            lav566 April 23 2013 17: 56 New
            +2
            However, sometimes they build a freebie. I heard that Kyrgyzstan asked the Russian Federation to build a power plant with her.
            The Russian Federation will give a loan, build a power plant, then they will write off the loan. We are now having a scandal:
            calculated how many loans were forgiven and horrified, a lot of money!
            And as for mutually beneficial cooperation, I’m afraid this is not the time now. The Kremlin is expected
            gross dismantling. Someone should eat someone. Probably, they will eat closer to the fall.
            Today I drove past the Kremlin. Some kind of bad spirit comes from there.
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city April 23 2013 14: 27 New
    0
    Guys. Russia refused to allow NATO equipment and weapons, so they are going to distribute it to the right and left. Morally, we outplayed them. Imagine. A disarmed army marching through the territory of Russia, who lost the war, and indeed it is. They say even personal weapons will be banned.
  • Denis_SF
    Denis_SF April 23 2013 15: 07 New
    0
    use chemical weapons in the central bazaar of Bukhara ...

    Ukrainian chemical defense battalion is preparing for battle again? :)
  • NIK 163
    NIK 163 April 23 2013 16: 25 New
    +1
    I myself come from Uzbekistan, what’s going on there, I know every week I call relatives who still stay there. Therefore, to say that the Russians live well there is nonsense. They clogged them there, if not the money we send them I don’t know how they would have survived. And Karimov from such a beautiful republic as she was when the USSR made her a beggar. I remember how they boasted after separation that after 5 years they would live happily. The new generation that grew up after the breakdown does not speak Russian, education is below the baseboard, there is no work, almost all plants There are no personnel. Even if they want to launch them, there is Uzbekistan now.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus April 23 2013 17: 42 New
      +4
      Nobody is for anyone. R.m.o.ril, it’s you who are talking nonsense here. I am Russian, I live here and I don’t see chmyra. They become bumbles if they allow themselves to be treated like this or behave like bumblebees. The new generation does not speak Russian only where there are no Russians. With education, not everything is so bad. There are really big problems with work. There are personnel and new plants are launched with them.
  • boreas
    boreas April 23 2013 17: 05 New
    +3
    Unfortunately, we do not understand how the best defense is an attack! Relatively speaking, we are rushing around with a bucket of water around our house, trying to extinguish abandoned burning matches here and there by our likely American neighbor !!! We have two options: 1) with the tongue on the shoulder, have time to put out everything, which is very tiring !!! 2) To arrange a fireman in his garden, so that the probable neighbor would have something to do !!!
    It doesn’t work out differently !!!
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman April 23 2013 18: 44 New
    +1
    oh this Karimov already. Does he really think that after his last antics he will be received with open arms ??? if they accept, then I am sure on harsh conditions.
    And really a very funny reaction from the Americans: a report on the violation of human rights))). They cannot distinguish Kyrgyzstan from Kazakhstan, Chechnya from the Czech Republic, but I know exactly and clearly where and when (up to a minute) the rights of some person are violated in Uzbekistan!
    this is called BRIEF (I don’t want to just write mats). So have the whole world and at the same time everyone believes in it and they get away with it!
  • alex82
    alex82 April 23 2013 19: 24 New
    +1
    Yeah, with the amers campaign, the program stamps these reports))), ask only the country and it will give a report on the situation of people and their rights in the territory of a sovereign state. Five minutes and you're done))
  • Oleg Rosskiyy
    Oleg Rosskiyy April 23 2013 22: 13 New
    0
    It probably dawned on the Uzbek comrade that even the NATO equipment left as a gift would not be able to protect him from radicals sponsored by the United States and its allies, but the oil would be added to the new Central Asian bonfire, which is planned to be kindled in the near future, with particular pleasure.
  • Rainman_1
    Rainman_1 April 23 2013 22: 38 New
    -1
    I would worry about the ethnic Russians who are there, it’s not their fault that they were sent to build factories ... Uncle Lenin! if that starts there, then the first they will get hit !!!!!
  • Rainman_1
    Rainman_1 April 23 2013 22: 48 New
    +1
    Is that strange ??? Kyrgyz citizens are granted citizenship for three months without delay ... the main thing is to register somewhere !!!! Russians from Uzbekistan for 5 years can go for this passport. That is why so?
    1. Ram chandra
      Ram chandra April 24 2013 07: 46 New
      +4
      Colonial politics. Moscow is beneficial that there were many Russians And beyond the territory of the Russian Federation.
  • UzRus
    UzRus April 24 2013 01: 42 New
    +1
    And what's so strange? One comrade wrote above that "they are not our brothers."
  • penguin
    penguin April 29 2013 10: 50 New
    0
    zae ...... whether these cunning-ass Central Asian aborigines would have been without them at all. But so far without a presence in Wed. Asia is nowhere. Otherwise, the Taliban, infectious by radicalism, will come and infect everyone there, and then this whole zoo will rush through our doors.