Nanotechnology: no money, no innovation

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Recently, in our country, against the backdrop of statements by government officials about the start of a full-scale fight against corruption, a peculiar fashion has emerged. The fashion for identifying amounts, let's say softly, is not quite targeted spending of budget funds by one or another ministry or department. Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Agriculture, Roscosmos, Olympstroy, etc. And now in the role of this “so on” is such a Russian company with state management as Rosnano. The same company that was created more than five years ago and was supposed to literally gush forth with ideas and implemented projects regarding the development of high-tech industries with the release of competitive products.

Five years have passed, and now they have decided to pay attention to the activities of Rosnano. More precisely, attention was paid before, but this time they decided to also count the money that the company, led by the unsinkable reformer of all time, Anatoly Chubais, managed to “master”. The verification is just beginning, but its preliminary results are already known.

It turned out that over the years of its existence, Rosnano has mastered the “wrong direction” 21,8 billion rubles, of which about 3's billion are the costs of developing, creating and subsequently introducing in Russian schools Russian ultra-thin black-and-white tablet computers, option set of which meant working with text and graphic stationary images, but not working with video files ... There was a time when Anatoly Borisovich personally reported to Vladimir Putin about how Rosnano works efficiently, vlyayas with more than 100-billion-dollar funding, which the company comes from the state budget. This report looked like a demonstration to Vladimir Putin of a tablet developed in Rosnano.

And everything seems to be already tuned in that the Russian-made tablet computer will appear to the pupils of our schools, even black and white, even if without the video support function, even late, but still relatively inexpensive (the price is up to 12 thousand rubles) and , most importantly, your own, "homegrown." But ... As the weeks went by, the months passed, and the know-how presented by the head of Rosnano did not go to Russian schools. The reason turned out to be utterly banal: the final price of the “Rosnanovsky” compact computer turned out to be comparable to the price of the most expensive foreign analogues, one of which (Anatoly Borisovich himself uses a tablet from a well-known overseas company). True, foreign “analogs” are colored, they are connected to the Internet and they reproduce videos ... Therefore, the “Millennium Project” died out, and billions of budget funds turned out to be unknown where, and it is not known how to return them from there to the budget.

Another Rosnano project, which caused some confusion, was another 3 billionth (penny to penny) project for the production of silicon components for solar cells. Moreover, the company did not intend to take the designated three billion from its existing budget, but made a request for this amount to the Ministry of Finance. The project was named by Anatoly Chubais’s office as a priority, and therefore capable of ultimately producing an excellent profit, but only with the project came a real incident. It turned out that similar materials in their factories are already being manufactured by our Chinese neighbors, and the commissioning of the production capacities of the PRC cost much less. Moreover, in those years, while Rosnano was hatching the idea of ​​producing polycrystalline silicon, the world price for this material fell exactly 25 times (not without the help of all the same Chinese productions). Such information led to the fact that from the Ministry of Finance a refusal to allocate the designated billions came to Rosnano. However, the refusal of the Ministry of Finance did not upset the company's management, and Rosnano decided that the battle was not lost yet, and that solar panel plants based on that very polysilicon would soon start growing like mushrooms after rain.

Anyway, Anatoly Borisovich was not used to giving up after such failures. Well, lost, you understand a dozen or two billions from the state budget - it does not matter, they will give more, which means that projects will continue to appear. Moreover, in the case of the current work of Mr. Chubais, it is practically impossible to present any financial claims to him. Why? Yes, because the essence of the work "Rosnano" declared in the form of a company focused on the development of an innovative economy. And according to international standards, conducting such activities is fraught with serious risks. For example, the proposed innovative projects in the United States of America are implemented at best on 20-25. That is, 7-8 projects from 10 suffer a complete collapse and do not bring any benefit to the economy. So then we blame Anatoly Chubais? .. It seems that most of the projects are not being implemented in his company: recently the only development that Rosnano can boast of is the so-called “FemtoScan” - a scanning probe microscope that has found application in medicine. But, comparing the domestic "Rosnano" with foreign innovative companies, we should not forget about one important moment. The fact is that in the same United States the state, if it participates in the financing of developments implemented by such companies, the level of this financing is several times, if not ten times lower than the level of private investment. Moreover, in the overwhelming majority of cases, foreign companies receive a specific task, for the solution of which specialists are already attracted and funds are allocated. That is: the task has been set - please, seek its solution. But for the time being, everything is given to Rosnano itself: here is the 130 of the billion rubles of the budget for you, and do what you see fit: a tablet, so a tablet; dry closets, so dry closets. And is it really necessary for the Russian and world markets - the tenth question.
Naturally, this approach unleashes the "generals" of the company, which (the "generals") does not feel at least some kind of control over themselves. There is an opportunity to write off any failure on world statistics: they say that you point your finger at us, this happens to the whole world. Yes, it happens - no one argues, but only in the foreign version loses the private investor, who, after losing the investment in an innovative company, is unlikely to trust it for the second time. And in our case, the state loses money, that is, every Russian taxpayer. And after the next loss of funds for the “project that didn’t justify itself,” the financing of Rosnano from the state budget still continues on a solid scale - with the same rake again and again ...

Of course, this is not a reason to abandon the strategically important innovative projects. This is a reason to establish control over the activities of the company, which operates with colossal budget funds with minimal returns.
Naturally, someone (for example, Anatoly Borisovich himself) can say what kind of return you would expect if Rosnano has been operating for only 5 years. Just wait, they say, at least for years 20-25, then the implementation of innovative projects will increase significantly. However, if such a variant of the company's work continues, then you can wait at least 25, at least 125 for years, and the return will be the same: money is lost, understand and forgive ...

By the way, Mr. Chubais claims that the specified amount in 21,8 billion, it turns out, has not disappeared anywhere:

I want to draw the attention of those people who raised the topic with great enthusiasm, that we either stole 21 billion, or wrote off 21 billion, or threw away ... We didn’t steal, didn’t write off and didn’t throw it away. We have created reserves.


What are the reserves? For what purpose? If to translate into reality innovative projects, then with such solid reserves, it took Rosnano to ask 3 a billion rubles from the Ministry of Finance for the implementation of a polysilicon project ... the reserves have been accumulated ... It turns out that either the words about the reserves are another bluff, or these considerable funds are not at all needed for investing in innovation.

By the way, analyzing the words of Anatoly Borisovich that no one stole anything, wrote off or threw it away, we need to recall the following situation. Not so long ago, the head of Rosnano launched a cry in which he called for investing funds from pension funds into projects of the company he headed ... Like, why would the money lie on the accounts if you can start the implementation of the next project? However, I immediately recall the main, excuse me, “excuse” of Rosnano representatives about why not all projects work - statistics, they say. And if we are guided by world statistics, it turns out that when investing a billion or other from a pension fund in “nano-ideas”, at best, only 20% of funds will work. The rest of all statistical calculations will go down the drain. And that’s how the Pension Fund, which itself can’t patch the holes in short supply, will tell the retirees about why the funds have melted - that’s another question. It’s at least naive to expect that 100% of the “pension” money will give a positive return in Rosnano projects.

It is noteworthy that Rosnano does not care about the possibility of an inflow of private capital, but again directs its views on what lies closer to the state budget. Still would! Chastnika try to attract black-and-white tablet, and the state does not need to attract money - they will flow if you remove the last restrictive barriers ...

PS According to Rosnano, in 2012, the revenue of the so-called nanocenters amounted to 365 million rubles. What a sly, however, report. The trick is that the concept of revenue is significantly different from the concept of profit. Profit is revenue minus expenses. And what is the annual profit of the centers controlled by Rosnano, if only the monthly salary of the head of the company itself is estimated at 2 million rubles, and the average salary of hundreds of Rosnano employees is about 300 thousand rubles? And is this profit at all? It would have been - the company "Rosnano" would have long trumpeted about this at all angles ...
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  1. +63
    April 23 2013 07: 59
    Money is not enough for him?
    It’s not necessary to think about money, but to get ready. Berezovsky and all his pip brothers have been waiting for him
    1. vadimus
      +16
      April 23 2013 08: 27
      This redhead clown nano loot came up with a campaign. He riveted a lot, but he is not visible .....
      1. +61
        April 23 2013 08: 31
        Another would have been shot long ago. And this one is unsinkable, unkillable, impassable, more alive than all living things. Another question is who is more important in the current government. But there is also a strong aspen stake.
        1. Kaa
          +17
          April 23 2013 09: 02
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          Another would have been shot long ago
          And he, for nanotechnology and for reporting for money, according to an old habit, will issue nano-vouchers and will again be in chocolate ...
          1. Patriot of Russia
            -1
            April 23 2013 18: 57
            Quote: Denis
            Money is not enough for him?
            It’s not necessary to think about money, but to get ready. Berezovsky and all his pip brothers have been waiting for him
            where to go and why ?! he and his brothers and under Putin do not live badly
          2. Patriot of Russia
            +5
            April 23 2013 19: 02
            Quote: Denis
            Money is not enough for him?
            It’s not necessary to think about money, but to get ready. Berezovsky and all his pip brothers have been waiting for him

            where to go and why ?! he and the brothers under Putin are not living badly. support each other, so to speak
            1. +2
              April 25 2013 22: 03
              correctly. Chubais plus others like Serdyukov and Vasileva are afraid of nothing. Our sovereign today confirmed this on television in front of the whole country.
          3. +7
            April 23 2013 19: 33
            we drill nano-holes in nano-nuts so that we insert a nano-bolt into the nano-hole
            1. opkozak
              +5
              April 23 2013 21: 30
              Quote: cumastra1
              we drill nano-holes in nano-nuts so that we insert a nano-bolt into the nano-hole

              That's the joke happened. Another scandal arose around the Skolkovo innovation center, also known as the Russian Silicon Valley, located near Moscow. As Skolkovo security officer A. R. Borodach told reporters, during a night walk around the premises, he discovered damage to the lock doors in the nanotechnology block and broken gates of the aviary with nanorobots, and the aviary itself was empty. When it became clear that one of the experimental nanorobots escaped, a state of emergency was declared immediately on the territory of the complex, a special unit “Alpha” was called from the capital, and the 55th Moscow Internal Troops Division was put on alert.
              Fortunately, a fugitive was soon found. Nanorobot stuck in a hole in the fence while trying to squeeze into it. On their own, security officers managed to stun and pull out the innovative development.
              According to the Center’s management, the nanorobot did not receive significant damage and returned to its native Nanoblock after replacing several lamps.
              An official audit has been launched on the fact of the incident, and the State Duma of the Russian Federation will soon consider the possibility of providing additional funds for the modernization of Skolkovo security systems.
          4. maxim1ch
            -1
            April 25 2013 20: 00
            Pfff, all documentation and reports from RUSNANO since its inception are in the public domain
        2. +44
          April 23 2013 09: 52
          You are a unique liar, Anatoly Borisovich. You lie every second

          - G. A. Yavlinsky
          1. +1
            April 23 2013 18: 42
            Quote: Vadivak
            You are a unique liar, Anatoly Borisovich. You lie every second

            Quote: Denis
            It’s not necessary to think about money, but to get ready

            Once they are now ANAS they are very busy.
            Here is an example of "nanytechnology" in production from Chubayka and the "ghouls" that have stuck to him:

            A similar production has been operating in Yekaterinburg since 2002 and was called "Uralplastic" now they are "Penoterm" their website:
            http://www.penoterm.ru/
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOA5BTdrlz0
            In this video, the "Cheshire Cat" is used at all, a subtle hint. wink

            Such is it, NANO.
            1. Dim Dim
              +2
              April 23 2013 22: 11
              They just forgot to add to this story that everything is produced on imported equipment and from imported raw materials. And the rest, a beautiful marquise, all is well, all is well.
              1. maxim1ch
                -2
                April 25 2013 20: 03
                If good raw materials and equipment were produced in Russia, it would be possible to use it. And they didn’t produce raw materials because there were no working factories ... And RUSNANO had nothing to do with it, no one wants to risk it ...
          2. +10
            April 23 2013 19: 14
            Quote: Vadivak
            You are a unique liar, Anatoly Borisovich. You lie every second

            - G. A. Yavlinsky
            And that honest one from the same trash
        3. sir
          +4
          April 24 2013 07: 53
          on red am
      2. +34
        April 23 2013 09: 37
        Only mass executions will save the homeland.

        But seriously, if such a scum is free, then someone really needs it


        1. +8
          April 23 2013 13: 28
          Quote: Vadivak
          Only mass executions will save the homeland. But seriously, if such a scum is free, then someone really needs it
          - you need a redhead pampering, you need a redhead playful. Need to threaten with a finger.
        2. +4
          April 23 2013 17: 18
          Quote: Vadivak
          Only mass executions will save the homeland.

          I think that so far there are enough selective ones ... And this is a citizen, clearly on that list.
          1. 0
            April 25 2013 22: 10
            our people knew life better than us therefore and came up with the proverb that the fish rots from the head. no shootings are needed. in power should stand a person really wanting to rid it of corruption and not imitating the fight against it. that's all.
        3. fokino1980
          +3
          April 24 2013 21: 25
          I can’t believe this power while CHUBAIS is free !!!! And there are millions like me. Reasons You Know Everything.
          1. -1
            April 25 2013 22: 12
            I agree with you
        4. 0
          April 24 2013 22: 03
          Better hanging, for clarity !!! But in general I agree. am
      3. +34
        April 23 2013 09: 48
        eh Kvachkov ... Kvachkov .... so what are you ...
        1. +37
          April 23 2013 09: 54
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          eh Kvachkov ... Kvachkov .... so what are you ...



          Participants in the unsuccessful attempt on Anatoly Chubais were prosecuted for not fulfilling a combat mission.


      4. +15
        April 23 2013 10: 39
        That’s the whole point, he’s far from being a clown, but with whom he has been twirling and turning for more than 20 years, he’s not even clowns anyway ... In any case, he is a cancerous tumor on the body of my Motherland. adequately, no, not with a scalpel, it won’t help. Only hard radiation ...
        1. 0
          April 25 2013 14: 27
          Quote: evgenm55
          In any case, he is a cancerous tumor on the body of my Motherland.

          While he is at the head of this company, no discoveries should be expected. He made the "Sharazhkin" office "Horns and Hooves" out of it by cutting our budget money. And if they come up with something, then these developments will be the first to see "overseas" ... The Cossack was sent for a long time.
          1. maxim1ch
            -3
            April 25 2013 20: 05
            The company has not taken money from the budget for many years, and it would be useful for you to read about one of the 32 production facilities launched with support, including budget money!
            1. +2
              April 25 2013 23: 38
              Quote: maxim1ch
              The company has not taken money from the budget for many years, and it would be useful for you to read about one of the 32 production facilities launched with support, including budget money!

              You’ll tell tales to your grandfather !!! You are probably one of the effective managers who receives 300 thousand a month at one of the enterprises producing nanotanks with nanowires and inventing black and white tablets at a price of 30 thousand apiece. negative
      5. postman
        +4
        April 23 2013 13: 46
        Quote: vadimus
        This redhead clown nano loot came up with a campaign. He riveted a lot, but he is not visible .....

        Back in 2012, he clearly set his priorities:
        until 2015 IPO (in 2013)
        Ministry of Economic Development: Now the company can place an additional issue for 5 billion 971 million 300 thousand ordinary registered uncertified shares with a par value of 1 rubles. The authorized capital of Rusnano now consists of 53 billion 741 million 700 thousand ordinary shares with a par value of 1 ruble, after the placement it may increase to 59 billion 713 million shares.
        June 20, 2012 Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree according to which he approved the privatization in 2012-2013. the state block of shares of Rusnano. The document notes that the Russian Federation plans to privatize 10% of shares of OJSC "Rusnano" and reduce its share in the company to 90% by issuing and placing an additional issue of shares in 2012.
        - 49% of shares in private hands)
        The first 10% of the shares is planned to be sold to private investors this year, Kalyuzhny specified. He did not cite the names of customers, explaining that "we want to sell more expensive."
        RUSNANO announced its intention to register in Switzerland (Boris Berezovsky, managing company Rusnano Capital, the company Noga lives here, liked to open firms such as Forus and Andava)
        Rusnano Capital in Russia will have only a representative office, but not a branch. And it is right. Why is it needed, this branch? The branch must keep records and pay taxes, but the representative no
        - as with RAO UES (he) = trust management.
        RUSNANO will invest 500 million rubles in the creation of the Pre-IPO fund.The target volume of the fund is estimated at 1,8 billion rubles, of which RUSNANO's contribution will amount to 500 million rubles.
        -the retirement benefit (a golden parachute) from $ 10

        RAO "UES of Russia" ceased to exist in 2005.
        According to various sources, the “golden parachute” for top managers ranged from $ 250000 to $ 750000.
        The management of OGK-2 did not begin to trifle and requested 557 million rubles in compensation.
        The "Golden Parachute" by Mikhail Kuzichev, the former CEO of OGK-2, amounted to approximately 60 million rubles
        Mosenergo OJSC paid to top managers who left the company on April 1, 2008, compensation in the total amount of 94 million rubles.

        ...

        In general, these gentlemen (a total of 89 large state corporations for 2007) in 2007 the state cost 3 billion 108 million rubles, receiving an average of 34,9 million rubles for each.
        1. +8
          April 23 2013 17: 32
          The farther, the more I affirm in the thought that iPhone in all these schemes is in proportion. where I didn’t have a hand, there is everywhere Zh_O_P_A.
          1. Dim Dim
            +7
            April 23 2013 22: 15
            Well, the redhead was noted even before the iPhone, and who can remember at least one useful thing for the country that the redhead did not ditch?
          2. +1
            April 25 2013 22: 17
            You really think that Dimon was deciding something. or the last name Putin is afraid to pronounce.
      6. opkozak
        +8
        April 23 2013 22: 22
        Chubais's friend?
      7. skeptic-
        +2
        April 24 2013 21: 03
        At one time, saffron said that every privatized enterprise was another nail in the lid of the tomb of communism.

        It seems that he will soon begin to say that every ten zananonized billions of ours, i.e. taxpayer rubles - this is another hammered nail in the coffin - already the Russian Federation. Just some kind of undertaker, on our head. That's who the alpenstock would come in handy for.
    2. +15
      April 23 2013 10: 16
      Here is the video in the topic)))
      1. +4
        April 23 2013 18: 10
        Quote: Atrix
        Here is the video in the topic)))



        As it smells fried, this red-haired nano figure will dump to London in a nano-micro-plane. With such "guardians of scientific technology" and enemies it is unnecessary negative
        1. +7
          April 23 2013 19: 56
          It would be funny if it weren’t so sad from the way that UNPUNISHED plundered Russia.
        2. +3
          April 23 2013 21: 07
          Quote: Speckled32
          As it smells fried, this red-haired nano figure will dump to London in a nano-micro-plane. With such "guardians of scientific technology" and enemies unnecessarily negative


          By the way, about the prohibition of accounts over the hill ... You only need to tighten up if you find - a traitor, and shooting, then, after the first 10 corpses, 10 will be thought about.
      2. +5
        April 23 2013 19: 39
        Per movie +100.

        I suppose the whole Western world laughed when this "goat" was launched into the garden where such a juicy cabbage grows.
    3. +9
      April 23 2013 11: 09
      I’m sure that even if the Accounts Chamber finds thefts, they still won’t put Chubais on, if Serdyukov and many ministers are not put in prison, what example do they give to other ministers? - the robbery will not be planted.
      1. 0
        April 25 2013 22: 26
        Olympics, the summit in the Far East, Skolkovo, Moscow region. Further, you can continue to infinity. Everywhere huge thefts. It may be enough for us to console ourselves with the tale of the good king and evil boyars. In the modern world this does not happen.
    4. +2
      April 23 2013 11: 55
      And he is already looking there. Look at the photo. not for long .....
    5. +1
      April 23 2013 14: 13
      [quote = Denis] Money is not enough for him?
      It’s not necessary to think about money, but to get ready. Berezovsky and his whole pip brotherhood have already been waiting, it’s just time to send him a scarf !!! wink Yes
      1. yak69
        +1
        April 23 2013 20: 18
        Red, this is not a stool for you! He will not even be called to the prosecutor. If stools are free, then this one is finally irremovable.
        There was such a story about him (it seems from Korzhakov). At one time, bronze tablets on his office were often changed, then one position, then another. Khoz was tired of this and decided to make universal - for all time: Anatoly Borisovich Chubais. So he walks with this sign, from one office to another.
        One word - "ETERNAL Jew"!
        1. yak69
          +9
          April 23 2013 20: 23
          For distinguished moderators: the word "Zh.D." in Polish means "Jew"
          In Polish (żyd), Slovak (žid), Czech (žid), Lithuanian (žydas), Hungarian (zsidó) etymological correspondence to the Russian word Jew means both “Jew” and “Jew” (sometimes with spelling differentiation - in Polish and Czech, this word is written with a capital letter in ethnic meaning and with a small letter in religious), and does not have a negative connotation.
          Wikipedia.
        2. -3
          April 23 2013 20: 37
          Quote: yak69

          One word - "ETERNAL Jew"!
          Those. Do you think that if his mother is Jewish, then the man is Jewish?
          Father - Boris Matveyevich Chubais (February 15, 1918 - October 9, 2000) - veteran of the Great Patriotic War, retired colonel, after retirement, teacher of Marxism-Leninism at the Leningrad Mining Institute.
          Mother - Raisa Efimovna Sagal (September 15, 1918 - September 7, 2004).

          And then what to do with the only Nobel laureate of Russia Zhores Ivanovich Alferov? Is he Russian or Jewish?
          Born in the Belarusian-Jewish family of Ivan Karpovich Alferov and Anna Vladimirovna Rosenblum.
          1. yak69
            +4
            April 23 2013 22: 28
            for Aron Zawi
            The expression "Eternal Zh.D." is taken from the Bible.
            Agasferus (lat. Ahasverus), or the Eternal Jew - a legendary character, according to legend, doomed to eternal wanderings on earth until the Second Coming of Christ.
            This name is already a common noun, as a symbol of heartlessness, mental stinginess and inhumanity.
            And do you not know, dear, that Jewry is inherited EXCLUSIVELY on the maternal side. In addition, my comment is not about nationality, but about a set of qualities. Ia myself have a great attitude to all nationalities (according to the education and conviction of Ia internationalist). In my life there were many Jewish friends and friends. I learned a lot from them. And I always very accurately separate the Jews and the Zionists. Some are just people, others are the fiends of hell.
            So, nationality is not an indicator for me, and I don’t see anything offensive here. I’ll tell you, several names to which I always bow my head: Utesov, Smoktunovsky, Gaft, Bystritskaya, Alferov, Yehudi Minukhin, the present Wasserman and many others.
          2. alexanderrus.
            -2
            April 23 2013 23: 29
            Yes, all of them, as V. Vysotsky sang "... from ours, from the Poles, from the Slavs ...".
          3. +1
            April 25 2013 01: 00
            Among Jews, maternal kinship is considered. Stop talking.
    6. Patriot of Russia
      -1
      April 23 2013 18: 56
      Quote: Denis
      Money is not enough for him?
      It’s not necessary to think about money, but to get ready. Berezovsky and all his pip brothers have been waiting for him

      where to go and why ?! he and his brothers and under Putin do not live badly
    7. Vovka levka
      -1
      April 24 2013 23: 05
      Quote: Denis
      Money is not enough for him?

      They are always not enough.
  2. yurypetrunin
    +14
    April 23 2013 08: 00
    An abscess on the body of Russia! And the abscess head is Chubais. Yuri Petrunin. Gatchina.
    1. +29
      April 23 2013 08: 11
      Quote: yurypetrunin
      An abscess on the body of Russia

      Rather, the Rusnano washing machine for washing money. 5 years ago, Chubais said that the company’s turnover will be 900 billion, what’s the result now? wink
      For what this red cockroach would not take, everything goes to dust, EVERYTHING !!! But it amazes me even more why Putin is constantly appointing someone.
      1. vilenich
        +15
        April 23 2013 08: 15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But it amazes me even more why Putin is constantly appointing someone.

        As one famous comedian used to say: "Something is probably wrong in the conservatory!"
        1. +3
          April 23 2013 08: 26
          Quote: vilenich
          "Something seems to be wrong at the conservatory!"

          Yeah, damn it, he has the wrong grenade system.
      2. PPL
        +13
        April 23 2013 08: 28
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But it amazes me even more why Putin is constantly appointing someone.

        This is how the "father" of the constitution A. Sobchak bequeathed, to whom all the current "democrats" were either advisers or a swing member ... lol
        Sobchak about Chubais: "a young man who lacks knowledge, but has a great desire to change everything."

        The original of this material
        © "Faces", # 3 1996
        1. not good
          +12
          April 23 2013 09: 22
          Time has passed, the person is no longer young, but still can not stop ... But in hell a warm company was waiting ... Yeltsin, Gaidar and others with a great desire to change everything .... am
      3. +7
        April 23 2013 09: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But it amazes me even more why Putin is constantly appointing someone.


        Sasha, maybe he appoints himself? Well, an honest person cannot have such dirt next to him.
      4. iulai
        +18
        April 23 2013 09: 48
        Alexander, this Chubais failed the unemployed, the former deputy Sobchak, V.V. Putin to the wino. The drunk made him the prime minister, then career trampled. So Putin thanks his godfather, appointing him to feed on bread places. A crystal-clear honest person will not be put on a high post; you need a good hook. A hook with a leash is probably in the hands of Red. That is why it is unsinkable!
        1. +2
          April 24 2013 01: 34
          Quote: iulai
          So Putin thanks

          Don’t share, where is your awareness from? Is there a reliable source? Then announce it. And if these are your personal assumptions, please write so. There should be objectivity.
          Quote: iulai
          on a high post, you need a good hook.

          And about honesty and dishonesty, you understand very well that what you wrote does not correspond to reality. Then why write lies? Earn popularity and epaulets?
        2. 0
          April 25 2013 22: 36
          gang law. everyone in the gang must be tied, and then surrender. Yeltsin’s gang could not bring a crystal-clear person to power, otherwise everyone would have sat down in a month. they may be thieves, but by no means fools. when at stake hundreds of billions of words and promises no one believes. you really need something serious to hold a person for me ...
      5. Akatsubasa
        +4
        April 23 2013 09: 57
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But it amazes me even more why Putin is constantly appointing someone.

        It's funny that all the stealing comrades simply retreated into the shadows. The same old man Pekhtin) Crick was about an apartment in Miami, and now quietly quietly pushed into the shade in RusHydro, where there had just been a check and certainly no one would look in the near future) it turned out) He is not Pekhtin, not so modest)
      6. donchepano
        +7
        April 23 2013 10: 04
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        It amazes me why Putin is constantly appointing him.


        Here is the answer about unsinkability ...
      7. +3
        April 23 2013 11: 57
        The question and answer ...
      8. Roll
        +2
        April 23 2013 14: 55
        wassat Where Chubais victory is everywhere, he is a brilliant manager. Voucher privatization, the most honest and sensible, and the people unfortunately could not appreciate it, well, they don’t appreciate the good, it’s the tradition of the people. Rao ees sold at such prices that you are surprised. And to breed potanins and promissory notes is such a talent to have. As for nano, it’s not so simple, both with the skolkovo and the Olympics. This is a trend of recent years and Chubais didn’t stand out.
        1. +2
          April 23 2013 18: 02
          There are thousands of them. The redhead is just in plain sight, public, taking into account the past. They will never be defeated by "fighting corruption". They are our state power and system. And here we are fluttering - to shoot! yes to the bunk! We are nobody for them, not even the "electorate". Who has not yet understood this - see the next series ...
  3. +16
    April 23 2013 08: 03
    Repression and only cruel repression in relation to stealing bureaucrats can change all this rotten swamp.
  4. +19
    April 23 2013 08: 03
    a thief should be in prison, and such a gnida like a redhead should sit for life
    1. Pit
      Pit
      +8
      April 23 2013 09: 35
      Quote: awg75
      sit for life

      Or hang out on the gallows in the center of the palace square
      1. donchepano
        +1
        April 23 2013 10: 05
        Quote: Pit
        Or hang out on the gallows in the center of the palace square

        First, return the loot
      2. not good
        +4
        April 23 2013 12: 34
        Well, why at once on the palace, the Forehead place historically in Moscow, let it hang first, and then with a tour across the country, so that everyone could spit.
      3. +5
        April 23 2013 19: 23
        Quote: Pit
        hanging out on the gallows in the center of the palace square
        No, don’t have such a place
        hang me in my yard
    2. mamba
      +3
      April 23 2013 09: 44
      Quote: awg75
      such a gnid like a redhead should sit for life

      Popular wisdom says: "Fear the redhead, yes the bald one." The bald lip-slap, the same Malchish-Badish, whom grandfather Arkady Gaidar scribbled to his family and the whole country, has already died, but the red-haired thief is more alive than all the living. Never sit him. Who will put him in prison? He's a monument! A living monument to the "vertical of power" in Russia.
    3. Gemar
      +4
      April 23 2013 10: 13
      Quote: awg75
      such a gnid like a redhead

      Chubais is red, caulked. Rows money shovel.
      ====================================================================== =================
      The blanket ran away, the sheet flew away. And the pillow, like a frog, galloped away from me. I'm behind a candle - a candle in the stove. I’m for a book - that run. I will not buy NANO things from Chubais ...
  5. PPL
    +3
    April 23 2013 08: 03
    "... a Russian-made tablet computer ..., even black and white, even without video support, albeit late, but still ..."
    Are such NANO technologies planned? sad
    Well, at least this time they did not let the swindler rummage around in the pockets of pensioners.
    But I think that this is not his last "tour" ...
  6. fenix57
    +13
    April 23 2013 08: 05
    In general, Chubais needs HYPER MONEY to "get" a NANO invention. request How much can you believe ....
    1. Rustiger
      +17
      April 23 2013 10: 18
      Quote: fenix57
      How much can you believe ....

      Believe to whom ?????? Nanotolia? To Putin? Ha ha ha . .
      A year ago, I thought Poo was such an "iron cunning rat" who was about to grab hold of it and start. ... ...
      But with each passing month, "illusions" disappear. ... ...

      Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Agriculture, Roscosmos, Olympstroy, etc. And now, the role of this “so on” is played by such a Russian company with state administration as Rusnano.


      Further . . . Judicial system (prosecutors near Moscow), Costs of the APEC forum, Health, Road construction, Utilities, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Distribution of quotas for the extraction of marine resources, Development of minerals, etc., etc. . . .
      Name at least one industry where there is no theft!
      Yes, in such a situation, any president, if only he is interested in the prosperity of his country, would have taken up if not an ax on the block, then certainly a whip. And the Way plays the role of such a cunning guy who kind of lurks and waits. . . What?
      Or do you think that he is not up to date? Every month he turns into a bitch! Into a selling, managed crib. . .
      1. +2
        April 23 2013 10: 33
        Yeah, they used to steal billions from millions before. Appetites are growing. Who would give them a Thai pill! Putin! AUUUUUU!
      2. TUMAN
        +5
        April 23 2013 13: 51
        Quote: Rustiger
        Every month he turns into a bitch! Into a selling, managed crib. . .

        No comments! good
      3. Rrv
        Rrv
        +5
        April 23 2013 17: 15
        Quote: Rustiger
        Every month he turns into a bitch! Into a selling, managed crib. . .


        Just does not turn, but always has been.
      4. +1
        April 25 2013 23: 02
        Yes, he was originally so. just at the beginning everyone wanted to believe in a change for the better. and when, after 13 years of promises alone, he didn’t do anything here, then people realized who our president is.
  7. Andrew 121
    +7
    April 23 2013 08: 06
    Zadornov said read the last name Chubais on the contrary and understand everything. Syabuh he is syabuch .... and the red Syabuch is generally tin for the people.
    1. +6
      April 23 2013 09: 52
      Quote: Andrey 121
      Zadornov said read the surname Chubais on the contrary


      Sagal his last name. Mother - Raisa Haimovna Sagal
  8. +7
    April 23 2013 08: 06
    Another "Horns and Hooves" ... disgusting and disgusting ...
    1. AndreyAB
      +9
      April 23 2013 09: 06
      If it were just horns and hooves, then these horns and hooves trade technology for the cordon left and right, and young talents, creating unbearable conditions for them, are delivered abroad, and this is treason to the country.
  9. xaxaes
    +1
    April 23 2013 08: 14
    Is there really no head at all ?, such a company should receive approval for new projects from scientists who should determine the prospects and competitiveness of the project, at least in the medium term, and not the thieves known to everyone in the country, who have a brazen and unflappable physiognomy they lie in the eyes and continue to stuff pockets! A b / w tablet is really funny!
    1. mamba
      +6
      April 23 2013 09: 36
      Quote: xaxaes
      such a company should receive approval for new projects from scientists who should determine the prospects and competitiveness of the project, at least in the medium term, and not the thieves known to everyone in the country, who with a brazen and unflappable physiognomy lie in their eyes and continue to fill their pockets!

      Our Kremlin rulers do not listen to professionals, but are guided only by "effective managers". And those are busy stuffing their pockets and, of course, unfastening certain amounts to the top. That is why they are unsinkable. This is how the "vertical of power" works in our unfortunate Russia. Examples can be omitted: and so everything is on hearing.
      1. 0
        April 24 2013 21: 59
        where do they come from, effective managers? Boys with foreign diplomas, brainwashed come to the government. I don’t understand! Speaking English fluently does not mean thinking in Russian.
        1. +1
          April 25 2013 23: 29
          Leave alone the middle management team.
          They have nothing to do with it. All the troubles are from our homegrown top managers. Neither Serdyukov and Shuvalov, nor Medvedev, Ivanov nor Putin overseas universities did not stop the theft when they reached enormous proportions. And such a situation is very satisfied with all of the above.
  10. +6
    April 23 2013 08: 15
    [b] Where there is Chubais, there is deception and theft! [/ b]
    [b] The red thief should be in prison! [/ b]
  11. pinecone
    +8
    April 23 2013 08: 16
    Absolutely unsinkable and untouchable. The shadow ruler, or controller, is incomprehensible.
    1. Fortnite
      +1
      April 24 2013 16: 58
      looking, however ... "From where? From there ..." (c)
  12. Kostia1970
    +3
    April 23 2013 08: 18
    Enchanted he (Chubais) or what ?! Unsinkable (oy), probably does not skimp on kickbacks ....
  13. Grishka100watt
    +6
    April 23 2013 08: 19
    He’s sitting there, crap, and he knows that all of Russia hates him!
  14. +17
    April 23 2013 08: 24
    Tired of Chubais, Serdyukov, Sochi, Shuvalov and the nano-successful thieves with them, it’s time and it’s time for them to cage. If we had a normal president, like Lukashenko, the bones would have rotted these successful thieves!
  15. +4
    April 23 2013 08: 25
    How much money these "great managers" ate without giving anything in return - DO NOT COUNT. I really liked the idea of ​​the Russian peasant Vasily Melnichenko / Sverdlovsk region / to give Chubais a salary of 12 thousand rubles and let him work. Who wants to read his ideas, find his collection of speeches on You Tube - it will be interesting.
    1. Fortnite
      +1
      April 24 2013 17: 00
      A better life-long pension of 4500 rubles without the right to work ...
  16. +6
    April 23 2013 08: 29
    And this is all because we have "Excessive corruption" or "Landings where?" (C) And it all started with the fact that "Parliament is not a place for discussion"

    Recently, I read an article how twice the Olympic swimming champion refused to play for the Russian team after officials from the sport wiped their feet on him.

    I was surprised by the comments, some say he wants a gorgeous mansion in California ... Well, in the sense that he was surprised that a person has real achievements and he cannot, and this is gorgeous, plus he betrayed his homeland. And the deputies, whose achievements are, to put it mildly, dubious, can be called "a modest dwelling," and they don't talk about the betrayal of their homeland, they seem to have such a job they can do.
    1. PPL
      +5
      April 23 2013 08: 34
      It all started much earlier!
      In March 1990, Chubais and a group of supporters proposed a project for market reforms to Mikhail Gorbachev, providing for the option of forcibly restricting political and civil liberties (freedom of speech, right to strike, etc.)
      "A tough course ...". Analytical note of the Leningrad Association of Social and Economic Sciences // Century XX and the world. 1990. No. 6. P.15-19.
      1. +1
        April 23 2013 21: 04
        To me, my deceased, my dad, may he rest in peace. He always said that Chubais was selling flowers in the transition. I always took it for granted, and now I think, where did it come from?
  17. UFO
    +4
    April 23 2013 08: 29
    "The fish rots from the head", when God is a golden calf, the people are in "flight". hi
    1. +6
      April 23 2013 08: 44
      Quote: UFO
      " The fish rots from the head ",..

      As a fisherman, I note - this is a common misconception.
      She begins to rot from the internal organs winked
      With a well-fed and smug belly of the fish.
  18. +5
    April 23 2013 08: 34
    If you want to ditch the case, appoint Chubais as the head.
  19. Vrungel78
    +5
    April 23 2013 08: 49
    When will this democratic pad al rest? Yeltsin, Gaidar, sobchak take your brotherhood. One thing will be disgusting: they will say at the funeral, they say, oh, what a great man he left, a democrat of the first wave, etc. So they talked about all these geeks. And Naina was trying to say that EBN almost never in my life licked. Here is the lying old t-var.
  20. +4
    April 23 2013 08: 52
    For Chubais, the "butyrka" has been crying for a long time. They put him on truancy there.
  21. +5
    April 23 2013 08: 54
    It has already been ... and for how long ... like Hans ...

    “The city in which the king lived was big and lively, every day foreign guests came, and once two deceivers stopped by. They said they were weavers and said that they could weave a wonderful fabric, better than which could be imagined. then it is unusually good, and with a pattern, and besides, a dress made from this fabric has a wonderful property of becoming invisible to any person who sits in the wrong place or is impenetrably stupid.
    "That would be a wonderful dress! - thought the king. - Put on such a dress - and you will immediately see who is sitting in your kingdom in the wrong place. And I can also distinguish the smart from the stupid! Yes, let me have such a fabric woven as soon as possible!"
    And he gave the deceivers a lot of money to get to work immediately. "...
    To be continued by Chubais, I feel sorry for the king’s current ... even two ... they’re naked.
    1. +2
      April 23 2013 09: 53
      Chubais’s cheeks became scarlet,
      He can tell everything
      But can't show
      Because nans are very small ... laughing
      All these Nana, Skolkovo are nothing more than offices for cutting budget funds, but what is more terrible - for the export of technologies and young specialists developing these technologies am
  22. +5
    April 23 2013 08: 58
    Made Ginger cat guard sour cream)
  23. +4
    April 23 2013 09: 01
    What is NANOtoly responsible for and what is the risk (of his head), eh, we should be the head of Lukashenko, otherwise ours only excuse their accomplices
  24. +3
    April 23 2013 09: 02
    laughing Did you expect something else? Plus red, minus innovation!
  25. +17
    April 23 2013 09: 02
    If Rusnano's budget (130 billion rubles) is divided into 40.000 entrepreneurs who closed their business in 2012. it will turn out to be 3 million rubles for the "nose" - not very bad "lifting" ones ...
    Many of them today are curtailing their business, or rather, most simply go into the shadows precisely because of:
    -high taxes on social programs;
    - wild competition in the absence of maneuver opportunities;
    -lack of long and cheap money to replenish working capital - primarily (!)
    But it is the presence of these working capital that makes it possible to develop the scope of the chosen activity ...
    The overwhelming majority of the abovementioned entrepreneurs are engaged in trivial business - buy-sell, cuts, massage in a bathhouse, and other worthy occupations, but 10-25 percent is a specific production area, often it’s quite technological, with its equipment spent on concrete money, which has its own, even residual, but value ...
    Such funds fall under the sovereign's program for the development of innovative activities ... Sovereign money is allocated under the program, which successfully flows into kickbacks in those very banal spheres of activity - buy-sell in bulk, sell through your store, kiosk, etc.
    Out of forty thousand, there will remain approximately 8000 persistent production workers and each with its own theme (!)
    130 billion / 8000 = 16,25 million rubles (?) - this is not a modest amount for the organization with serious production...
    But here's how? It turns out that the salaries of managers of the NANOchubais feeding trough will be much more important than the development of small and medium-sized businesses in Russia ...
    And here's a helluva lot of interest ... Where are those "lucky people" whose developments are being introduced everywhere by Chubais? Where are their happy faces? What media do they write about? What TV channels seem to these colleagues of mine who invent, implement, rationalize?
    Although I am an enthusiast in my field, I study the topic of innovations a lot, but I have no facts that the "red-haired uncle" or his couriers would scour the country in search of talents ...
    Maybe they prowl in a special way?
    Maybe even innovative ?????????? lol
    1. +1
      April 23 2013 18: 45
      Quote: Tartary
      Out of forty thousand, approximately 8000 persistent production workers will remain and each with its own theme (!) 130 billion / 8000 = 16,25 million rubles (?) Is already not a modest amount for organizing serious production ...

      We rolled up "eggs" to the NANO, they pointed out to us that our project was NANANE.
    2. Fortnite
      -1
      April 24 2013 17: 06
      But I’m thinking - why is Nanotolik’s salary only 2? What prevents him from doing 222? Is conscience really? Where is this limit guys? what
  26. AndreyAB
    +3
    April 23 2013 09: 03
    They found someone to engage in innovations, they let the goat into the garden, during the "fruitful work" of Mr. Chubais, foreign science probably received a new impetus for development, and Russia received nano-profits from nanotechnology, as always, Mr. Chubais continues to contribute to the collapse of Russian science and economy and no one notices this, just as they did not notice the activities of Mr. Serdyukov.
  27. +9
    April 23 2013 09: 10
    Yeahhh, Koreyko nervously smokes on the sidelines ... He even had klister tubes and a barrel of water, and this one has NANO, go see, and billions are dripping
  28. +2
    April 23 2013 09: 15
    ... Nano-checks: no money, no innovation ...

    Natural and the only possible result, given the reputation of the "red-haired", which is surprising, except that: - How in general was he entrusted with something?
  29. +2
    April 23 2013 09: 18
    In principle, the situation with Nano reflects all the flaws of state-owned enterprises. First of all, this is the lack of an effective and objective regulatory body. The Accounts Chamber, as a permanent organization, is subject to corruption and, moreover, its reports are not grounds for active prosecution.

    For RosNano, the controlling body could be a gathering of specialists from the RAS, collected at a time (probably, that's why they are being dispersed). Gathered, consulted and "ate". Another time, they gathered others, to another direction, etc. Analysis of the effectiveness of other state corporations should be done according to the same principle. The report should be published in the media and "for the distribution of elephants." For specialists, this is a week of work. For the treasury, there are only pluses for which it is worth paying.
    And "Red" has nothing to do with, in such "water" another will start.
    1. +1
      April 23 2013 09: 30
      And, you can collect a "flock" of 5-year students of specialized universities and graduate students and "launch" them into a state-owned enterprise. They are science and part-time. If they "buy", then there will always be an honest one, and the "purchase" will appear, which means that the whole group cannot be in the state service. Well, something like this.
    2. Fortnite
      0
      April 24 2013 17: 10
      Quote: GrBear
      even chamber, as a permanent organization, subject to corruption

      Especially when Golikov comes to the place of Stepashin! From there will be expanse - that !!! The husband is her (Khristenko) from the same detachment ...
  30. 0
    April 23 2013 09: 18
    When this red-haired little bit was already going on, the tenacious sv ... ch, it was necessary to think of putting him to such a position altogether, or rather they didn’t think or pursued other goals. With such a leader, Rusnano will develop such innovations that SKR will then have to rake them for a long time
  31. SPQR
    +12
    April 23 2013 09: 22
    I wonder who is behind Chubais, because even in the most corrupt state, a person who has robbed the entire population at least twice should at least retire (if corruption is so strong even at the top) or sit down (if everything is not so hopeless), but how to explain the fact that such a person does not sit or does not quietly retire, but is assigned to oversee innovative development? I understand Medvedev clearly does not shine with his mind like 93% of ministers in his office, but Vladimir Vladimirovich clearly a smart person leaves this creature (sorry An Atoliy Borisovich but you can’t apply another epithet) at this important post. What conclusion can be made?
    1. Chubais has so much succeeded in licking the ass to the bosses that it can no longer exist without him;
    2. In Chubais, the owners control not only Chubais itself but also the entire top of the country;
    3. Chubais himself rules the country (which would explain a lot), a sort of gray cardinal, because it’s clear that if he officially participated in the elections he would gain 0,0000000000000000000000000000001%, and it’s cleverly obtained through Dimka and Vovka;
    4. He is an unrecognized genius of the era, and we did not understand his cunning plan;
    5. He is a recognized genius but we just don’t understand the cunning plan;
    6.He is an alien;
    7. He is an agent of the CIA a kind of introduced pest;
    8. An ordinary thief by the will of fate abandoned to the top;
    9. It is a punishment sent to us by Stalin so that we can appreciate the genius of Stalinist rule a sort of comparative option;
    10. He is the scourge of God sent to us for our sins.
    1. mamba
      +2
      April 23 2013 09: 59
      Quote: SPQR
      What conclusion can be drawn?
      3. Chubais rules the country himself;
      7. He is an agent of the CIA a kind of introduced pest;
      8. An ordinary thief by the will of fate abandoned to the top;
      10. He is the scourge of God sent to us for our sins.

      Well, why be so verbose? You yourself answered your question in p.p. 3, 7, 8, 10.
    2. +1
      April 23 2013 16: 57
      6.He is an alien;


      Absolutely to the point !!!
  32. +7
    April 23 2013 09: 23
    Give these 30 billion to support small businesses, to provide cheap loans and get the output of the country's development, the emergence of the middle class and the development of mega-brains, and not nanochubais.
  33. Asketxnumx
    +3
    April 23 2013 09: 27
    "And the king is naked!" How long will he get away with everything ?!
  34. Akatsubasa
    +2
    April 23 2013 09: 30
    Oddly enough, nanotechnologies are developing in our country, but not thanks to, but contrary to state funding and Rusnano, headed by Chubais)
  35. +3
    April 23 2013 09: 31
    It is really incomprehensible how this subject manages to constantly spin at the top, next to huge money? After all, it is clear to anyone that this is a "dirty" person. And the same Putin does not know ????
    Summary-the head decomposes with a stinking smell and further.
  36. ttttt
    +8
    April 23 2013 09: 36
    Gentlemen, if in the near future Chubais is not exponentially destroyed, there can be no doubt in the betrayal of the president and government. Sometimes I ask myself the question: Who controls Russia after all? Putin or Chubais? I have not yet found the answer.
    1. mamba
      +1
      April 23 2013 10: 14
      Quote: tttttt
      if in the near future Chubais is not exponentially destroyed, there can be no doubt in the betrayal of the president and government.

      Do you still have doubts? iulai in his post at 9-48 he explained everything popularly.
      Quote: tttttt
      Sometimes I ask myself the question: Who controls Russia after all? Putin or Chubais? I have not yet found the answer.

      I am sending it there again.
  37. waisson
    +2
    April 23 2013 09: 37
    Inevitably, the poklyny Berizovsky asked to Russia to engage in the science of such crooks again for all sorts of frauds that can be cranked up on the first wave. A Chubais it’s high time to isolate him from the karmushka but whoever removes it and that’s the power to heal must be healed and not healed and cut so that a new government independent of today's power grows and has never been in power
  38. +2
    April 23 2013 09: 38
    EBN instilled a universal love of the people for Chubais, for vouchers, Putin developed, spudded and increased his respect for the author of RAO UES and the "nano-saw" of the magician.
  39. +6
    April 23 2013 09: 44
    Another soap bubble burst ... What do you want? The question is where else to send this red-haired dog? Where are we doing badly and urgent intervention of an "effective manager" is needed?
    Nobody really answered for the tragedy at the state district power station, and he put his rake on it cool.
  40. +4
    April 23 2013 09: 50
    really wanted Anatoly Borisovich to move to the deserted house of Boris Abramovich as soon as possible
    1. Fortnite
      +1
      April 24 2013 17: 13
      ... and it’s possible to directly hook up in the freezer (I think - more fairly) ... am
  41. +2
    April 23 2013 09: 52
    As soon as Chubais was assigned to nanotechnology, it immediately became clear that a BIG kirdyk would come to these very technologies in Russia. With him only such technologies (from the Internet): in the market an Armenian sells footwear under the sign "NANATEKHNOLOGIYA". They ask why? - "Listen, dear, my wife's name is Nana. She is a technologist. And I also sew shoes. So it turns out: Nana, the technologist and me." They say that the shoes were decent smile
  42. optimist
    +6
    April 23 2013 09: 57
    Interesting: where is our "great and wise" guarantor looking? It looks like there are at least 2 options here: either the Washington "regional committee" does not give a redhead in offense, or the guarantor is "in share" ...
  43. +5
    April 23 2013 10: 02
    And who keeps them in power (brought) Chubais, Medvedev, Serdyukov, Kudrin ... Only they are bad chtoli, and that person, of course, is D'artagnan ...
  44. +14
    April 23 2013 10: 10
    In Slavic mythology, a Chubais-pot-bellied red rat with a face like a human, a small malicious house spirit that threatens to turn off the light (RAO UES) makes various nasty things. Everything converges !!!
  45. DeerIvanovich
    +2
    April 23 2013 10: 20
    it’s not clear, of course, that it’s time to the highest degree of redhead selling ...
    but here’s a funny situation: I’ve already noticed many times that there are quite a few troll accounts, there are separate accounts that are engaged in arrogant anti-patriotic activities on the site, but for the most part troll accounts perform the task given above: now there’s one task to provoke people to revolution (according to the plans of the organizers: fall-winter), which should overthrow the current government, because they are no longer needed by their owners.
    on the basis of what such a conclusion is made?
    but on what basis:
    1. DeerIvanovich
      +1
      April 23 2013 10: 37
      fourthly, the company began to apply comprehensive pressure on ordinary people who do not care about the Internet and, in fact, cannot be affected through it. This is expressed, for example, in a sharp increase in tariffs: in some provincial towns, people manage to enter such percentages of increase that people go on an assault on the administration, about which there was already a story in news feeds or, for example, transport rates were increased. and this is only the beginning, there will be increases, and even unplanned
      fifthly, according to statistics for 2012-2013, militants were destroyed in the North. The Caucasus during the course of special operations is as much as in the last 5 years, why would it suddenly ... but in order to delay as many special forces as possible from the center.
      sixthly, already a blow to offshore in Cyprus.
    2. DeerIvanovich
      +1
      April 23 2013 10: 42
      the first three points are not published, it’s strange: the error supposedly contains a text that is forbidden for publication: although the system would write a message what word is prohibited!
      in brief, the first three points:
      taking advantage of the fact that the authorities somehow strangely relate to persons involved in landmark cases, troll accounts on this site, and on other Russian sites, are engaged in inducing visitors to these sites into protest moods, at the same time drawing historical analogies for example with the year 37, thereby hinting that there was sheer horror for the bandits, although in essence this is a significant exaggeration of the facts that took place. In general, they use a double purpose: to create a protest mood and create a myth in the minds of people about the year 37.
      1. +2
        April 24 2013 01: 54
        Quote: DeerIvanovich
        Useful purpose: create a protest mood

        You know, you are very right in many ways. I repeatedly paid attention to what you wrote about. It’s alarming.
        1. DeerIvanovich
          0
          April 24 2013 13: 53
          Yeah, alarming
  46. mamba
    +3
    April 23 2013 10: 35
    as in the Pension Fund, which itself cannot fix the deficit holes in any way, they will tell pensioners why the funds have melted away - this is another matter.
    The stories of the Pension Fund officials are well known: "The Pension Fund has a budget deficit of several trillion rubles, and the state does not have the money to close this hole. Therefore, we cannot pay you a full pension. Regardless of the coefficient calculated by us, you will receive only half of the amount due to you. . All endure and you endure. "
    And at this time, the authorities are convincing us that the situation with the Pension Fund is completely open: http://www.rg.ru/2012/12/07/pension-dok.html
    Where is the money, Zin !!?
  47. +4
    April 23 2013 10: 39
    With Chubik it is necessary to act as the Italians acted with Mussolini
  48. +6
    April 23 2013 10: 43
    Patriots are there to say.
  49. warm
    +3
    April 23 2013 10: 59
    So the most important innovation breakthrough breakthrough Skolkovo nanotechnologists forgot:
    -renaming police to policemen!
    But at once everything fell into place, the content began to correspond to the name!

    ps well, and this - from 500 of the suspects turn into witnesses ...
  50. +1
    April 23 2013 10: 59
    And their salaries are never "nano". It's high time this office was shaken up. And it should be shaken by parasite control specialists. And to treat "nanotechnologists" as with discovered worms. Well, first you need to give them an average salary, like those of hard workers in Russia. So there will be at least some profit.
    1. +1
      April 23 2013 11: 16
      Quote: IRBIS
      And their salaries are never "nano". It's high time this office was shaken up. And it should be shaken by parasite control specialists. And to treat "nanotechnologists" as with discovered worms. Well, first you need to give them an average salary, like those of hard workers in Russia. So there will be at least some profit.

      Listen, yes they are ready to work for free))) There you can cut so much money that they themselves are likely to pay money just to stay at the trough.
  51. adg76
    +1
    April 23 2013 11: 02
    Reserves of 21 billion...... Someone is preparing for something. After all, there was money from the CPSU... And where is it? “Someone” is preparing an alternate airfield. And Chubais carries out the order. And if they don’t put him in prison and the money isn’t found, then I’m right
  52. +1
    April 23 2013 11: 02
    Chubais, this is the hope of the West and not the collapse of Russia! Touch him, there will be a howl in the world... But here you can look at Chubais from the other side, let him be the circumstance that will force the West to open its cards, often without even knowing about it. And the time will come, then he will be imprisoned for fraud, for example.
    1. +1
      April 23 2013 11: 11
      But it won’t be too expensive; for that kind of money you can open cards in another way.
      1. +1
        April 23 2013 14: 09
        Practice shows that money doesn’t go anywhere... If desired, “your” money quickly becomes state money.
    2. 0
      April 28 2013 21: 51
      It is not true. The West is also satisfied with Putin, just as Yeltsin was before. Chubais has nothing to do with it. It was Putin who took over the NATO base on Russian territory. It is Putin who keeps 500 billion in US Treasury securities. It was Putin who dragged Russia into the WTO, thereby finishing off the remnants of our industry. Well, any economy cannot be competitive with bank rates of 15-20% and the price of gas and electricity in many cases even higher than in developed countries. It was under Putin that we, residents of the Kaliningrad region, began to travel to Poland and Lithuania to buy food because there it is of better quality and 50 percent cheaper. It was under Putin that Moscow turned into Moskabad due to the reluctance to pay its people a decent salary. It was under Putin that our roads became 5 times more expensive than Finnish ones. Only there the roads are built by Finns with a salary of 2500 Euros, and here we have Uzbeks. There is no need to continue further. Chubais will sit down only when Putin sits down and not a day earlier.
  53. +1
    April 23 2013 11: 06
    The toothlessness of our law enforcement agencies is surprising; there are crimes, but there is no punishment. From morning to evening you can only hear, they stole, they stole, they stole, but where are the landings? They can’t even send Chubais to retire. Something is wrong in the Kingdom of Denmark hi
  54. +2
    April 23 2013 11: 12
    I don’t know why there, in Rusnano, no one has been arrested or .... and what kind of “bulldog fights under the carpet” are, but I think only in a drunken delirium can one imagine Chubais (I write with a small deliberately) benefiting something or someone or other than yourself. Another good thing is, look how most of those who grabbed the dough live. None of them are happy and joyful! Sometimes the children are scumbags, sometimes the wives are bitches, sometimes they themselves are sick, sometimes they die in the prime of life. You can’t build happiness on someone else’s happiness, and the boomerang law always applies.
    But believing in the Supreme Justice, I hope for earthly justice!!! As one real priest said, “... there is no point in trusting in God where good police are enough...”
  55. Fin
    +4
    April 23 2013 11: 32
    The worst thing about all this is that in the next 5 years, and maybe more, nothing will change in our country. The entire elite steals, they know everything about each other (where they stole, where they hid). The alpha Siberian Crane cannot change (plant) them, so they will change places. There is no other leader visible on the horizon - the entire clearing has been cleared.
    I would like order to be restored in the army and navy, to be re-equipped as quickly as possible, otherwise some bastard will stick his face in these troubled times.
    Gentlemen Chubais, Serdyukov... when will you get drunk? I'm tired of looking at your faces that only promise and constantly lie.
  56. pantech15
    +2
    April 23 2013 11: 34
    I just don’t understand the strategy of the government and the president in matters of corruption, every day the Investigative Committee and the Accounts Chamber report on theft and embezzlement and at the same time there are no further actions, and at the same time LADIES and Putin talk at international forums about some kind of prestige for Russia and attracting investments, who will invest their hard-earned money in Russia if the state cannot save budget money and also completely agrees with the author about the work of research institutes, etc. organizations, the state should allocate budget money only for a specific government order with an indication of deadlines and not just for any nano,
  57. +2
    April 23 2013 11: 43
    So that we don’t pour out THEM ON US. They are all continuers of Gorbikov’s collapse, but they need to be broken up wisely, otherwise whoever will pump oil and gas from behind, led by the USA, will have to hump themselves, and everything is normal; they are worthless dollars to us. We are a product for them, but our people, knowing all this crap, steal so that later their children can feel good in the USA or in Naglia......
  58. wax
    +4
    April 23 2013 12: 21
    5 years is a long time. 4 years after the war, the atomic bomb was created in the USSR, and 5 years later the world's first nuclear power plant was launched in Obninsk. 16 years after the war, a Soviet man was also the first in the world to fly into space.
    A reasonable question arises: who is Chubais financing? This red-haired guy deserved retribution long ago. We're waiting, sir.
  59. ed65b
    0
    April 23 2013 12: 26
    I wonder when Ryzhiy reported to the GDP about the black and white tablets, did Putin believe him? Or does Red take everyone for suckers? It's a shame for the president. After such a report, a black and white tablet at the price of an apple product should have been a fraction of the point. And it itself should be painted in black and white stripes. It's a shame that we are all taken for complete idiots. Sometimes you watch another nonsense report of some minister on the GDP and you are stunned by the impudence of the bureaucrats and the inactivity of the president. EBN barked, you understand.
  60. USNik
    0
    April 23 2013 12: 34
    Disperse this red gang and selectively pour confiscated “nanomoney” into enterprises that actually develop and produce, such as Almaz, Sukhoi, Uralmash, etc. ...
  61. +5
    April 23 2013 12: 41
    Quote: ed65b
    I wonder when Ryzhiy reported to the GDP about the black and white tablets, did Putin believe him? Or does Red take everyone for suckers? It's a shame for the president. P

    The video showing the tablet is a dummy advertisement for rednecks, I don’t think that the Supreme Commander doesn’t understand anything, but people had to show the effectiveness of Red’s business. The Supreme understands people, and Red is a member of the Supreme’s team, like Taburetkin, but he will have to wait until 2037. And these bastards will not answer for high treason, once again remember Saint Joseph V. Stalin. This archangel of the new religion.
    1. 0
      April 28 2013 22: 06
      You're right. There is no need to separate Chubais and Putin. They are one whole. They will all be on trial. If we don’t make it in time, then the court of history in the person of our children will do it for us. And the Putin era will be called a time of general corruption and theft such as has never been seen in the history of the Russian state.
  62. +1
    April 23 2013 12: 42
    I would only be surprised when Chubais had at least something working, and not falling apart..., we can operate with budget money, but we can’t bring any benefit to the state..., amazing selection of personnel! wassat
  63. 0
    April 23 2013 12: 44
    Quote from elmi: “Robbers will not be jailed” is not correct. They do this: rob and share, but they won’t imprison their own people. Their liberal Lifshits also said like a mantra: “we must share.”
  64. 0
    April 23 2013 12: 48
    Schaaaa, at first you should at least be a bitch... the guy has come since the normal one hasn’t arrived yet.
  65. Gorko
    +10
    April 23 2013 12: 56

    It’s a pity that the rats, whose names you all know very well, killed a colonel, a veteran of the war in Afghanistan and Tajikistan.
  66. +2
    April 23 2013 13: 01
    It’s interesting, but maybe Deputy Ponomarev actually received money for his lectures. Something suddenly went quiet about him. Even Chubais did not think of such fees in his time. He, I remember, sold a hundred-page book at a fabulous price, but 300 thousand for the speeches of a not very literate person (in terms of level of education) - this did not happen.

    And about the super reader - pay attention, then Anatoly Borisovich showed exactly the reader, and not the tablet, even then the price was absolutely inflated - I was already sure of the corrupt scheme for siphoning money, which was discussed and commented on the network. But they don’t read the internet from the prosecutor’s office, well, they didn’t know that the money would be stolen again.
    Can I still get the Internet to the prosecutor's office?
  67. +4
    April 23 2013 13: 13
    Quote: pantech15
    I just don’t understand the strategy of the government and the president in matters of corruption, every day the Investigative Committee and the Accounts Chamber report on theft and embezzlement and yet there is no further action


    I witnessed one incident. Patrol police detained a drunk who was insulting other citizens. When they tried to put him in a patrol car, the figure of a lady appeared who had not witnessed what was happening until the moment of the latter’s arrest, but decided to show her civic position - raising her voice, shouting slogans about the insolent police, “with her breasts” blocking the entrance to the car, and so on. We, who were standing in line, simply watched, since everything looked very funny. While she was fiercely resisting the “arbitrariness”, the drunken man broke away from the policemen, who were taken aback by the attack, and while running away touched the defender’s bag. Having opened the bag and finding broken eggs, the defender screamed even louder: “Keep this beast, what are you worth, why are you paid a salary.”

    What I mean is that society consists of individuals - with different views, approaches to what is happening, and so on. Therefore, it is not enough to declare the fight against corruption; society must be “tuned” to a certain urge.

    I don’t think that all these statements by the Investigative Committee in the media are his own initiative? Someone gave the go-ahead!

    Society is no longer the same, it is no longer guided by decrees and orders alone, so certain technologies come into play that are aimed at creating a “mood” throughout society, reducing the effectiveness of counter-attacks from foreign, liberal and custom media, preparing changes in the regulatory framework and so on. All these nuances of modern social management are quite clearly visible against the background of the use of political technologies in election campaigns.
  68. PiP
    +6
    April 23 2013 13: 26
    Here's a tablet for you - dear VIP
  69. +4
    April 23 2013 13: 28
    >>
    Chubais's unsinkability is amazing. After all, everyone is already convinced: roughly speaking, no matter what Chubais undertakes, he screws up everywhere. And...like water off a duck's back, it still floats at the top, continuing to hang nano-noodles on its ears, not answering for anything, not denying itself anything, "mastering" uncontrollably huge funds, for some reason allocated, contrary to world practice, by the state , and as it turns out in the end, to NANONOOLDS! It seems that it is very profitable for someone to have such offices as Rusnano, Skolkovo, through which they can safely direct BUDGET financial flows in the “right” direction. For example, pay hundreds of thousands of greenbacks for the services of the half-educated guru L. Ponamarev, but in reality organize one or more swamp parties with the distribution of another portion of liberal crap and ALL THIS for TAXPAYERS' money! iPhone really advocated for the creation of Skolkovo, it seems, for good reason!
  70. MIKK1972
    0
    April 23 2013 13: 32
    The redhead has been with us all for many years, it’s time to start respecting him.
  71. Pilot
    +1
    April 23 2013 13: 46
    Why do you tolerate him? request
  72. +2
    April 23 2013 13: 52
    The task of the reformers was not to build something, but to destroy everything, take over, divide the loot, and not develop something.

    As G. Zyuganov once correctly and accurately said, your Chubais can’t distinguish a “BUG” from a FUSE, but he has climbed into the position of Chief. ENERGY OF THE COUNTRY.

    Chubais is an unusual and sinister creature. The unusual thing is that he is an ideologist of theft (and even if he steals, he steals, of course, but somehow he has not become famous for it).
  73. 0
    April 23 2013 14: 04
    When will this genius leave to live in Israel? Chesslovo, it will cost Russia less.
    1. +3
      April 23 2013 15: 02
      WHERE ELSE WOULD I PUT YOUR EFFORT? TALENTED PERSONNEL IS STILL NEEDED EVERYWHERE......

      GDPR RECOMMENDATIONS:
      Immediately entrust the development of the entire economy to Chubais and he will bring it to nano sizes and theft to a hyper state.
  74. +7
    April 23 2013 14: 07
    Jokes about Chubais:
    1. American scientists, from a secret CIA biological laboratory, invented a new virus for Russia back in the 90s of the last century
    - The virus destroys all living things, as well as industrial facilities, energy and so on. ,
    - not afraid of any modern medicines, antibiotics, - nothing, - in a word - like AIDS or the bubonic plague ...
    And the name came up with a suitable one - Chubais

    2.Chubais hails a taxi.
    The taxi driver asks: "Where?"
    Chubais replies: “It doesn’t matter. He’s needed everywhere.”

    And indeed, Russia, or rather the current ruling regime, really needs people like him.
  75. Gorko
    0
    April 23 2013 14: 10
    Why do you tolerate him?

    Whom?
  76. Gahprom
    +2
    April 23 2013 14: 17
    Apparently all the money went to a new wife
  77. +1
    April 23 2013 14: 21
    AleksUkr (1) RU - you’re in vain, after fucking everything is very difficult to clean up - but it’s necessary!! Yes
  78. +2
    April 23 2013 14: 29
    Quote: AleksUkr
    Jokes about Chubais:

    I remembered: Gaidar comes to Chubais and says. “I don’t know what to do with the scientists. We don’t pay any money, but they keep going to work and going... “And you take money from them for entry!”
  79. +5
    April 23 2013 14: 38
    INTELLECTUAL AND MORAL WORTH!
    P.S “After checking Rusnano, Serdyukov’s case will seem like flowers to us, Chubais will bring berries”... Deputy of the State Duma Defense Committee, leader of the Rodina party Alexey Zhuravlev.
  80. +4
    April 23 2013 14: 47
    It's high time for him to crow in the corner
  81. +2
    April 23 2013 15: 03
    If we draw historical analogies, this is very reminiscent of the COMINTERN, pouring a lot of money into no one knows where and why, shouting at every corner about the world revolution!!!
  82. Roll
    -3
    April 23 2013 15: 17
    request Why did everyone attack Chubais so much? He is a talented and intelligent manager, and without exaggeration, top level, unlike other managers, everything he does gets a positive result. Voucher privatization under his leadership, the most honest and decent action during the perestroika era, since the people decided in a referendum to return to capitalism, it is the choice of the people, Rao EES raised it from complete ass and sold it for good money, with nano not quite everything It turned out that the time is now such that who can do what, from the Olympics to agriculture. Chubais is a more or less normal manager, and who is better than him Kudrin, Luzhkov, Skrynik, Yavlinsky Zyuganov. As in the joke among the d----ma, he is a poet and in all white.
  83. irka_65. irina
    +3
    April 23 2013 16: 24
    All these nanocreators with their roofs deserve an aspen stake. So that they don't get up! And just to be sure, a control silver bullet.
  84. Ak 12
    +1
    April 23 2013 16: 29
    Chubais...I call my cat that way, I don’t hate him
  85. +4
    April 23 2013 16: 32
    I look at the photo and immediately remember “The world has never seen such a blue thief as Anatoly Borisovich” (C)
  86. ARAMIS
    0
    April 23 2013 16: 43
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: yurypetrunin
    An abscess on the body of Russia

    Rather, the Rusnano washing machine for washing money. 5 years ago, Chubais said that the company’s turnover will be 900 billion, what’s the result now? wink
    For what this red cockroach would not take, everything goes to dust, EVERYTHING !!! But it amazes me even more why Putin is constantly appointing someone.
  87. Asketxnumx
    0
    April 23 2013 16: 43
    There is no Peter for him. He let me steal, but he also asked questions. And he asked strictly!
    1. +1
      April 23 2013 17: 06
      Here, here. That’s the trouble, that there aren’t enough questioners in our country. Strictly and correctly. Otherwise, if they ask you on the head, they’ll pat you on the head, scold you, and send you off to frolic in ... nanotechnology
  88. +2
    April 23 2013 16: 54
    Nemtsov, Gaidar, Kasyanov, Chubais are state criminals. This whole young reformist clique is guilty of selling off state assets. How strange it turned out that Nemtsov and Kasyanov were kicked out of power, Gaidar seemed to be pushed out too. And Chubais ruined the energy industry, and now promising ones in principle destroys nanotechnology. This is a question for the president on his direct line. I wonder what he will say. Although the truth is definitely not.
    It’s also a shame that because of this red-haired scum, a good man, a military officer and a true patriot, Kvachkov, was imprisoned.
  89. +3
    April 23 2013 16: 55
    The authorities abandoned the idea of ​​a “breakthrough” by easing monetary policy: cheap money will only increase the outflow of capital, said former Deputy Prime Minister Alexei Kudrin following a specialized meeting in Sochi. In 2011, he left the government precisely because of disagreements over budget policy. The main thing is the increase in military spending proposed by Dmitry Medvedev.

    The President and the government were convinced of the futility of easing the monetary policy to stimulate economic growth, ex-Minister of Finance, currently holding the post of Dean of the Faculty of Liberal Arts and Sciences at St. Petersburg State University, Alexei Kudrin, spoke about the results of the specialized meeting that took place the day before.

    “It was determined whether a monetary easing strategy could be applied to Russia. All participants spoke on this matter. We came to the conclusion that the situation in our country is different. A massive money issue is impossible,” Kudrin said, adding that they also refused to change the budget rule - calculating budget parameters based on the average oil price (in 2013 - the average for five years). Presidential Advisor Sergei Glazyev opposes the concept of a balanced budget and macroeconomic stability. He advocates stimulating economic growth and an “innovative breakthrough” through money emission.

    Kudrin and Chubais are one gang. Apparently, Russia will begin to reduce defense spending, and the economy will be a complete mess.
    The most interesting thing is that in all countries a soft monetary policy gives results, but in Russia it does not! Economic illiteracy, not to say irresponsibility, is simply amazing!
    1. Fortnite
      0
      April 24 2013 17: 27
      No, the most interesting thing is that with US EVERYTHING happens exactly the opposite!
  90. Rrv
    Rrv
    0
    April 23 2013 17: 10
    [quote][/quote] He turns into a piss every month! Into a corrupt, controlled piss. . .[/quote][quote][/quote]

    Just does not turn, but always has been.
  91. +2
    April 23 2013 17: 21
    Lock him in a nano prison cell and give him nano soldering! This will be nanotechnology in action.
  92. +3
    April 23 2013 18: 04
    Not a tablet computer, but an e-book was planned for release, these are different things. Naturally, without any video playback. This inaccuracy, and in fact a lie repeated every other line, spoils the entire article, with the content of which I completely agree. Comrade needs to be more careful. Volodin.
    1. +3
      April 23 2013 18: 17
      You will be surprised, but even e-books and video files are already being “played” with might and main... And a black and white e-book, first for 12000, then for 25000 rubles for schoolchildren, is of course cool. Apple is taking a break. Although what are we arguing about, because there is neither a tablet nor a book.
  93. Rrv
    Rrv
    +4
    April 23 2013 18: 06
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      Rrv
      +3
      April 23 2013 18: 09
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        Rrv
        0
        April 23 2013 18: 21
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        Rrv
        0
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  94. +1
    April 23 2013 18: 36
    He actively defended the GDP from the attacks of Ov’s swamp screamers and other evil spirits. The first bell in my mind came after the collapse of the case of gaming prosecutors in the Moscow region, then there was the Serdyukov case, construction on Russky Island, the case with tomographs, Skrynnik, the permissiveness of Chubais, Shuvalov. The incomprehensible, negative meaning of the creation of Dimon’s government with his Dvorkovich, Abyzov, Livanov. Preservation of the reserve of bankrupt capitalist ministers of the previous government. I began to think about hu is Putin. Explain... In my opinion, I got to the wrong place?
    1. +2
      April 23 2013 20: 33
      Quote: individ
      I think I'm in the wrong place?

      Unfortunately, things are starting to look like we are all screwed. And everything is wrong. Here, I think the majority voted for Putin and can subscribe to your words
      Quote: individ
      Actively defended the GDP from the attacks of Ov’s swamp screamers and other evil spirits

      And now many are confused: what were they fighting for?! For stability - that's what! And now reality constantly infuriates us. And the obvious goals of the state are especially annoying. policies and unclear law enforcement practices.
    2. Rrv
      Rrv
      +4
      April 23 2013 20: 35
      Quote: individ
      I began to think about hu is Putin. Explain...


      Putin is a person who, due to his past activities, is obliged to be able to lie perfectly looking into the eyes and be loyal to his immediate superiors, to be able to speak and act convincingly, to be able to hide his true intentions. This cannot simply be learned - initially the psyche and conscience of such a person must be very flexible, in fact he must be a psychological chameleon. At the same time, due to the fact that at that time it was impossible to simply “make money” (a good income was guaranteed only by a good position), he also had to be a strong-willed, persistent careerist.

      Putin is a man who, until the last minute, retained his CPSU party card (apparently just in case), managed to work for the liberal Sobchak (this fact speaks of his unprincipledness), a man involved (logical analysis allows us to draw a similar conclusion) in the theft of 122 million dollars (according to today’s By standards, this is in the region of a billion) and was not punished for it.

      Putin is a man who ended up in Moscow thanks to Chubais, and then, having gained a certain weight, dragged Medvedev, Kudrin and many others to Moscow with him.

      Putin is a person promoted, and then essentially appointed to the post of president by EBN, a man who, with his first decree, brought 90% of Russian citizens below the plinth.

      Putin is a man who made an iPhone president, got into the WTO, is preparing another privatization and ignores the Constitution.

      Have I answered your rhetorical question? )))
      1. 0
        April 23 2013 21: 43
        The fact of the matter is that you answered rhetorically. The main thing remains unresolved - we see the depravity of the destructive existing center and do not see the future centripetal force that unites and creates in our society. Complete discredit of all authorities. Where's the replacement? However, I am asking questions without answers. Or how?
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          +3
          April 23 2013 23: 25
          All the same, your question was rhetorical, since judging by Putin’s activities, it is quite clear who he is. I answered quite specifically, giving you the elements to put together a more or less complete picture.

          It’s a pity that you (like many others) don’t see the centripetal force you’re talking about: after all, this force should be you, me and everyone else - in the end, part 1 of article 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation should mean something, at least for us with you?

          In my opinion, first of all, it is important to understand what is happening, decide on the direction in which we want to move (communism, capitalism, liberalism, realism - or something else), and then begin to broadcast our will - create social movements or parties, vote for already existing ones whose programs are close to you - in general, look for and create comrades-in-arms, and act together with them in all spheres of life.
          I understand that it sounds naive at first glance, but look at the diasporas or Sagra, in which people were able to unite.

          But first of all, it is necessary to understand one thing: trying to sit on the principle of “my house is on the edge” means the continuation of today’s “stability”, because bad Authorities are elected by good citizens who do not go to vote in elections.

          Something like this. )))
      2. -3
        April 24 2013 02: 15
        Quote: RRV
        Putin is a man

        You can stop there. But to the rest of your text you need to add “in my opinion.” Otherwise it turns out that you know something that no one else knows. But that’s not true, is it?
        1. Rrv
          Rrv
          0
          April 24 2013 04: 42
          What exactly do you not know? Of all the things I have listed, the only controversial point is complicity in theft, but the high probability of Putin’s involvement in this case can be simply proven logically. The rest is known to everyone (except you, of course).
        2. Rrv
          Rrv
          +3
          April 24 2013 04: 52
          What exactly do you not know?

          Of all the things I have listed, the only controversial point is complicity in theft, but the high probability of Putin’s involvement in this case can be simply proven logically.

          Everyone knows the rest (except you, of course).
  95. +2
    April 23 2013 18: 44
    I read the article. And it became kind of sickening. And it's a shame. It’s a shame for the ruined industry, for the “ordinary” ones. not innovative science cities, for poor graduate students and teachers.
  96. +2
    April 23 2013 18: 50
    During his entire tenure in various positions, Chubais CREATED NOTHING.

    His destiny is to reorganize, optimize (in other words, DISCOVER AND SAW)

    Surprisingly, the opposition bypasses this figure. A sort of untouchable, fireproof character who suits everyone except the common people.
    1. +3
      April 23 2013 21: 46
      Quote: Ulysses
      During his entire tenure in various positions, Chubais CREATED NOTHING.

      This is where I disagree. Chubais created numerous mechanisms for “pumping” money from the pockets of the population into his own and the pockets of “patrons” and “needed” people
    2. Fortnite
      0
      April 24 2013 17: 33
      Gremlin, in a word...
  97. +4
    April 23 2013 18: 53
    If you trace the biography of Chubais, you will see a pattern that no matter what he undertakes, he achieves success in achieving Of their goals.
    1 - Privatization - I think no comments are needed. The oligarchs are happy.
    2 - Working in the government is not very successful, Russia survived it, but was on the verge of death.
    3 - RAO UES - collapse and privatization. The oligarchs are happy.
    4 - RosNANO - pumping megamoney into nanoresults is going well.
    At MIPT he holds the position of head of the department of THINK - "Technological Entrepreneurship". I didn’t understand what this department does, although I have a higher technical degree.
    Question: Who put him in this chair (RasNANO), that he did not read his biography, and is unfamiliar with the results of his activities?
    1. 0
      April 26 2013 22: 55
      Holy shit!!! If the stars are shining, it means someone needs it...
  98. Aboriginal53
    +1
    April 23 2013 19: 13
    Nanatoly Borisovich is unsinkable. To produce something and manage this process, you need to be a professional. And what a professional Chubais is. Neither politics, nor energy, nor nanotechnologist. The only thing he can do is put on a smart face and spend money, but setting up production and earning money is beyond his abilities. But the nomenclature, where they put it, will milk it.
  99. CreepyUknow
    0
    April 23 2013 19: 29
    Yes...It is difficult to explain the presence of this subject in important government structures. Maybe he invested well in Putin during his elections...
  100. Aiviar
    +2
    April 23 2013 20: 35
    Quote: individ
    He actively defended the GDP from the attacks of Ov’s swamp screamers and other evil spirits. The first bell in my mind came after the collapse of the case of gaming prosecutors in the Moscow region, then there was the Serdyukov case, construction on Russky Island, the case with tomographs, Skrynnik, the permissiveness of Chubais, Shuvalov. The incomprehensible, negative meaning of the creation of Dimon’s government with his Dvorkovich, Abyzov, Livanov. Preservation of the reserve of bankrupt capitalist ministers of the previous government. I began to think about hu is Putin. Explain... In my opinion, I got to the wrong place?


    Look at his story and everything will become clear. Yes, it is obvious that he has already “grown” beyond petty selfish interests and it seems that he really would like to be a strong ruler of a prosperous and strong country. ...Only the past holds its debtors tightly by the scrotum. In this particular case, the past is a huge pack of bastards from the parties around Sobchak, Yeltsin and the “Family”. And Chubais is one of them.