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Russia invited India to consider the possibility of supplying the party MiG-35

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The Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation (RSK) MiG offers India to consider the possibility of concluding a contract for the supply of a multipurpose MiG-35 fighter, said the General Director of RSK MiG Sergey Korotkov.


“Despite the fact that we lost the tender for the supply of multi-purpose fighter jets to the Indian Air Force 126, RSG MiG fulfilled all the requirements put forward by the tender committee,” said Korotkov, who took part in the celebrations on the occasion of the 50 anniversary of the start of deliveries Indian Air Force Soviet fighter MiG-21. “The aircraft showed good results, sometimes even exceeding expectations.”

# {weapon} According to him, the corporation expects that "India will consider the possibility of concluding a contract on the supply of MiG-35."

“And we will have the opportunity to realize it,” he said. - As part of the knowledge that India received in the process of holding this tender, I would like the theme of the MiG-35 to continue in the long run against the background of our common stories and the 50-year partnership. ”

According to preliminary information, the French company Dassault with the Rafale aircraft became the winner of the tender for the supply of fighters to the Indian Air Force. However, none of the parties has officially announced the terms for concluding a contract, ITAR-TASS reports.

He said earlier that the MiG Russian Aircraft Corporation (RSK) has signed a contract with the Indian Ministry of Defense to train Indian deck pilots aviation.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim April 22 2013 10: 52 New
    +9
    Here India, I agree, you can sell it to China!
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist April 22 2013 13: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Here India I agree you can


      The good news is that the MiG-35 is not abandoned and not forgotten. I really hope that the car will reach our Air Force.
    2. hermes
      hermes April 27 2013 14: 53 New
      0
      )) But Russia did not sell us Mig-35 - about which the Armenians prevented and damn them .... there are options for Saab flu
  2. Trailer
    Trailer April 22 2013 10: 53 New
    +4
    I remember that the French refused to give guarantees for the planes that the Indians would do at home? How about ours?
  3. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov April 22 2013 10: 54 New
    -7
    To offer does not mean to marry. Indians are smart people and, most likely, Migi-35 will not buy.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 22 2013 11: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: VohaAhov
      To offer does not mean to marry. Indians are smart people and, most likely, Migi-35 will not buy.

      Well, here the question is still controversial, it all depends on what else we offer besides MiG ...
      1. ultra
        ultra April 22 2013 11: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        Well, here the issue is still debatable, it all depends on what else we offer besides MiG.
        I wanted to write the same thing. hi
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman April 22 2013 12: 57 New
        +1
        Putin, it seems, gave the order, in addition to the products themselves, to give warranty service and a full range of services. So maybe this will play some role and we will get at least part of the tidbit! Of course, if the MiG hit the jackpot in the form of delivery of 126 aircraft, it would be unrealistic cool, because our kind of large parties to buy while they are not going to!
      3. aksakal
        aksakal April 22 2013 16: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        Well, here the question is still controversial, it all depends on what else we offer besides MiG ...

        - Well, it is necessary to offer this and so that the Indians had nowhere to go. MiG now really needs both currency and orders, otherwise we will lose a great air company with great competencies. It is necessary to preserve the MiG, which means that it is necessary that the Indians nevertheless take the party, although 30-40 or more planes. Better yet, 126 is right in place of the custodians. Let them Rafal and good airplanes (according to VAF), the Indians need to somehow convince them that they need the MiG. Moreover, the way it is - the Indians already have a MiG-29, they have the first MiG-29K, close to the MiG-35, there is the necessary infrastructure for servicing the MiGs, and there are ready personnel for servicing the MiGs, then for both Rafal, the new techniques for Indians, all this still needs to be created. And in terms of combat capabilities, the MiG-35 and Rafal are quite equal, the MiG looks even better in economic terms - cheaper.
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg April 23 2013 00: 25 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: VohaAhov
        To offer does not mean to marry. Indians are smart people and, most likely, Migi-35 will not buy.

        Well, here the question is still controversial, it all depends on what else we offer besides MiG ...


        A guarantee for example ...
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq April 22 2013 12: 08 New
      +3
      Why not buy? MIG-35 is bad? Who in the subject please enlighten ....
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman April 22 2013 13: 01 New
        +2
        MiG-35 - an excellent aircraft, just apparently India decided to diversify the aircraft market. It is explained by a certain dependence on one supplier. In addition to the Su-30 MKI that we supply them with, the FFA also we will be cutting them + frigates and we will deliver to Vikramaditya. This is where the legs grow about the purchase of the ravals.

        Unfortunately, the Russian Federation had certain problems with the supply of spare parts. Maybe it scared them a little!
      2. gispanec
        gispanec April 22 2013 15: 18 New
        -1
        Quote: ziqzaq
        Why not buy? MIG-35 is bad? Who in the subject please enlighten ..

        It's simple ... this pretty good plane DOES NOT STAND ON THE ARMED AIRCRAFT !!!
        1. aksakal
          aksakal April 22 2013 19: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: gispanec
          It's simple ... this pretty good plane DOES NOT STAND ON THE ARMED AIRCRAFT !!!
          - I read somewhere that the cost of the MiG-35 (both the plane and the flight hour) is quite a bit inferior to the SU-30 and SU-35, and in fact it is a light multi-purpose aircraft, which implies significantly cheaper this aircraft compared to with dryers. This was the main reason for the non-adoption of this aircraft by the military. What can you do if the main important details of the aircraft - for example, the RD-33 engines (upgraded to the MiG-35) or the Zhuk-A radar cost as much as their "dry" analogs AL-31 (or AL-41, so upgraded ones) or "Irbis" radar (or almost the same amount). How in this case the MiG-35 will be significantly cheaper than the same SU-35?
          A light aircraft should really be “light”, otherwise it will be “heavy”, but why then take it when there are already heavy ones?
  4. avt
    avt April 22 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    All the same, these guys are cool Indians. Take ship 29th, have the same twinks in the Air Force and, according to the tender, also buy Rafal. request Well, not a confessional flight of thought, or did the Franks push a very sweet bakshish?
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim April 22 2013 10: 59 New
      +8
      Quote: avt
      these Indians.

      Actually the Indians. smile
      1. avt
        avt April 22 2013 11: 41 New
        +5
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Actually the Indians.

        Oh no laughing Columbus then sailed to India, and the Indians were the first to be called. It was then they were divorced by name, and so the root is Indus, that is, according to the old another. Indo-Aryans, that is, other arias, it was then divorced them around laughing
        1. Curculum
          Curculum April 22 2013 12: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: avt
          It was then that they were divorced by name, and so the root is inde, that is, according to the old another

          How to warm - a "double-edged sword": if you adhere to your arguments, then the sound of the word "tramway" should not differ from "tram". Those. it is also necessary to take into account the rules of the Russian language, because the state of "Indus" does not exist.
          1. Rebus
            Rebus April 22 2013 12: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: Kurkul
            after all, the state of "Indies" does not exist.

            Strange. There are no Indians, but there are Indians ... wassat
            And on airplanes, Indians will buy and also with a production license ..
            1. Curculum
              Curculum April 22 2013 20: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Rebus
              Strange. There are no Indians, but there are Indians ...

              Nothing strange: is there a state of "Nemland"? But the Germans are. And why take it far: the Russians are there, but the state of “Russia” is not. Therefore, it is only a matter of the rules of one or another language, which is modified and improved over time.
      2. Fornit
        Fornit April 22 2013 14: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Actually the Indians.

        Actually Indians. tongue
        1. zennon
          zennon April 22 2013 15: 53 New
          +1
          Cool site. Philological and ethnographic disputes mixed with weapons. lol
          1. Curculum
            Curculum April 22 2013 20: 47 New
            0
            Quote: zennon
            Cool site. Philological and ethnographic disputes mixed with weapons.

            And you did not know that the development of language affects the development of weapons, in particular, and science as a whole? Kazakhs, for example, have already encountered a similar ...
        2. Curculum
          Curculum April 22 2013 21: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Fornit
          Actually Indians.

          Hindus (Hindus) - adherents of the religion of Hinduism, are found in Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Australia, etc. And it was about the residents of India.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 22 2013 21: 28 New
      0
      Quote: avt
      All the same, these guys are cool Indians. Take the ship 29, have the same twinkles in the Air Force and, according to the tender, also buy Rafal. Well, not a confessional flight of thought, or did the Franks push a very sweet bakshish?

      Is it possible that the Indian side, having the opportunity to operate aircraft of different manufacturers, is gaining experience and will probably try to release something of its own soon?
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 22 2013 11: 08 New
    +1
    And you, Comrade General Director of MiG RSK Sergey Korotkov, kneel before them. Who, like you now, asks to buy cutting-edge weapons, which Russia itself is sorely lacking ?!

    Grandmas, grandmas, around the grandmas, as it already got! When will you do something for your army?
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER April 22 2013 11: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      When will you do something for your army?

      Then, when our army would need Russian weapons, in the case of Serdyukovshchina they were reluctant to take our equipment at all, and enterprises had to look for foreign clients to survive .. Just like Migu, where to go, here is a matter of life and death, if it isn’t for our MO officers it’s needed, it will work for others, the main thing is that it would be for friends at least, and not for NATO .. ​​And on the account of additional offers to the Indians, here you need to approach subtly, offer a lot of bonuses, think that we are trying to get in just to buy, you need to act so that they themselves would want to buy and not beg ...
    2. Retx
      Retx April 22 2013 11: 44 New
      +1
      When this army decides to buy these same MiGs. And you know, you have to pay workers' salaries, maintain a factory and attend all kinds of air showrooms, etc.
    3. avt
      avt April 22 2013 13: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Stiletto
      And you, Comrade General Director of MiG RSK Sergey Korotkov, kneel before them.

      C'mon, well, let's go graters with francs y, alright, Indian laughing under warranty after repair on the Raphales, well, so it is necessary to use the moment. Suddenly Mig crawl through, we are only good, you look and a series of which no one will go. Look, Kazakhs can buy it, they seem to have an interest in the car too.
  6. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel April 22 2013 11: 18 New
    +3
    The attempt is not torture, you look, and the Gangan Cossacks will ripen. Finally, a plane vinaigrette from the "Indians" is still. Looks like the dough they have for servicing such a motley horde of planes is immeasurable. Or does His Majesty Bakshish dominate rationalism (reason)?
  7. newcomer
    newcomer April 22 2013 11: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: avt
    Well, not a confessional flight of thought, or did the Franks push a very sweet bakshish?

    the flight of your thought is simple and understandable: if someone buys an instant-35 or su-27, it is because they are “the best in the world” and “have no analogues,” but if it’s rafal, then there’s “bakshish.” By the way, rafal has long been in service and has shown itself well in real hostilities, but MiG-35, for now, is nothing more than a glamorous stuffed animal for air shows ... such thoughts do not fly into your head? or are you far from thinking?
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas April 22 2013 11: 38 New
      +1
      Well, as if in the history of India-France, there were enough corruption scandals. But of course, after the contract for Rafali, hoping that they will buy an additional MiG-35 a little naively ... On the other hand, "they don’t take money for demand" ...
    2. Rebus
      Rebus April 22 2013 13: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      Incidentally, rafal has long been in service and has shown itself well in real combat operations, but MiG-35, for now, is nothing more than a glamorous stuffed animal for air shows ...
      If the aircraft of any country did not participate in the hostilities, this does not mean that the aircraft is bad. Based on your logic, the Indians needed to buy a Messerschmitt Bf.109, this aircraft proved to be excellent in military operations and therefore it is better than the "glamorous" stuffed f-22s, f-35s, since these aircraft did not show themselves in combat. ...
      The MiG-35 not only surpasses the Dassault Rafale in many ways, but is also half the price. So the purchase of the Dassault Rafale by the Indians is, to put it mildly, suspicious.
    3. avt
      avt April 22 2013 15: 10 New
      0
      Quote: newbie
      the flight of your thought is simple and clear:

      So try laughing and believe me, it’s sometimes easier to let go of Gaidar’s magic fog than clearly and simply not shy to express an idea, and even in flight!
      Quote: newbie
      If someone buys a Mig-35 or Su-27, it is because they are “the best in the world” and “have no analogues,” but if you rafted, then “bakshish”.

      Mig -35 is not there yet, but SU-27 is yes, for the fact that it’s the best in the world, and not without bakshish laughing .
      Quote: newbie
      and by the way, the rafal has long been in service and has shown itself well in real combat operations,

      My dear man, I already live pretty well and I remember how it started and went with Rafal, but for perseverance in preserving my own aviation industry, the francs are certainly respected, but use in combat conditions .... request This is past the checkout counter. That's the other one, the Jaguar there, the Marriage of the number plate and its import modifications - fought really on different continents, but not Raphael.
  8. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 22 2013 11: 48 New
    0
    Let them offer and sell! It is only necessary immediately, to designate a measure of individual responsibility, in case of disruption of supplies to your army.
  9. sled 1912
    sled 1912 April 22 2013 11: 48 New
    +1
    I would very much like for Misha to show themselves in real military operations in Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, Syria, Iran - but alas, they will show themselves like a bunch of scrap metal - it’s sad but I have to admit. The authority has been lost - Africa and India have remained, .Or only Africa.
  10. Conepatus
    Conepatus April 22 2013 12: 04 New
    +7
    P-n-ds are trading weapons with Pakistan. Which does not stop them from pushing helicopters and coast guard aircraft for India. The French are trading with Pakistan and are also pulling their weapons for India. Russia on this list is the only one that does not supply weapons to Pakistan, but Indian tenders lose with enviable regularity. The nuclear submarines rented (nobody does) the BrahMos jointly launched (there are no rocket analogues) the 5th generation of fighter jets do together (the United States provided full access to F-35 technologies only for the UK and even without the right to use it independently, and F-22 is still under lock and key). In short, we raise the Indian military-industrial complex, and we almost beg to buy weapons from Russia.
    You can simply offer the MiG-35 to Pakistan (give a loan for this business) you look and the Indians will show interest in this aircraft.
    1. vadson
      vadson April 22 2013 13: 16 New
      +2
      give credit to pakistan ??? those. just give away at the expense of the budget? WHAT FOR??? they will also beat them to the ground thereby destroying the authority of the aircraft
      1. Conepatus
        Conepatus April 22 2013 13: 24 New
        +1
        Venisuela and Indonesia received a loan to purchase Russian weapons. Why not give Pakistan? This is actually practiced all over the world.
  11. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 April 22 2013 12: 54 New
    +2
    India is not our enemy but a reliable partner. China generally does not sell anything from modern weapons. So let them fight with a lot of spears. And why only China was given the technology of atomic weapons. request
  12. pensioner
    pensioner April 22 2013 13: 56 New
    +4
    Quote: nikolas 83
    India is not our enemy but a reliable partner.

    But not an ally. Specific country. Worked with them. I grabbed grief at the most. Choke for $ 1. Everyone strives to jam (to put it mildly). As our VPKashniki trade with them - I can’t imagine. I sympathize with them. The country is the poorest. $ 2 per day in the villages a fortune. The stink in Mumbai begins in the airport. Fierce banditry. But .... let them pay, if they want.
  13. UFO
    UFO April 22 2013 14: 38 New
    +1
    Indians won’t buy it - they need to be delivered to Syria as “humanitarian aid”! yes
    1. pensioner
      pensioner April 22 2013 14: 50 New
      +1
      Everything will come in handy there.
  14. Artmark
    Artmark April 22 2013 15: 38 New
    0
    Good product will not be lost! hi
  15. Vtel
    Vtel April 22 2013 16: 16 New
    +2
    Why is it in such a hurry to sell the latest fighter, which is still not very clear for the very themselves. If the question is money, then again they will flow away unknown to us where. And if the grandmas are needed for the construction of our army, then it would be time for Putin to get down to business and shake his sidekicks - Chubzaits, Veksel-Bergov and Ponamarev and K., otherwise they had already bitten the people's good. And then some kind of "green" cycle in Russia.
  16. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz April 22 2013 16: 58 New
    0
    More like a cry of despair, of course, India’s likelihood of joining the MIG 35 project is unrealistic, there is no airplane, its theoretical capabilities, and MIG’s capabilities as an enterprise to supply even 30 units of product with inevitable refinement are doubtful, first you need to create a production base to staff (horseradish with him with experience, even though education was already technical), it is cheaper for Hindus to fuck their Tezis than the MIG in Russia for a new build
  17. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej April 22 2013 18: 54 New
    +1
    But why is Kazakhstan silent? They have long shown their intention to acquire the 35th. It’s hard to see it with funds. There is no buyer and they don’t give money for production. And with the beetle - AM radar, some problems can be seen.
  18. Alexander D.
    Alexander D. April 22 2013 22: 55 New
    +2
    Before buying any imported weapons, any country first of all asks: how many of these same aircraft (tanks, ships) do you have in service? And the Russian Federation is 0, but they are the best in terms of performance characteristics in their class! Would you buy a car that no one has bought before you and it is not known how it will behave?