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Container lifts for rough terrain

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Container lifts for rough terrain



Rough Terrain Container Handler (RTCH, pronounced retouch) container lifters allow you to handle standard ANSI / ISO freight containers that have recently become the backbone of US and allied military logistics. For example, only during the transportation of the third and fourth infantry divisions in January 2005, more than 4200 trailers and containers were handled on the CRSP LSA Anaconda transshipment base. According to the Container Management Support Tool, since the start of the Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, the US government has paid over 500 million dollars for the use of privately owned containers. The fact is that the US government has to pay penalties to private companies in the event that its container is not returned to the carrier during the 10-day grace period. In order to reduce costs, the army chose two ways, first, to maximize state-owned containers, and second, to minimize the time for loading and unloading. RTCH is best suited for this purpose. Deployment conditions do not always allow the use of a standard container lift. Snow, mud and just not prepared site can create insurmountable obstacles to their work. In this connection, two main models of off-road container lifters were adopted, the American Caterpillar and the Finnish Kalmar (the company is formally recorded in Finland).

Caterpillar Cross Country Container Lift


The container lift has a tonnage capacity of 22.6, is equipped with a Caterpillar 3408 diesel engine with HP 393 turbocharging power, and later 988F models are equipped with a Caterpillar 3408E HEUI diesel engine with 430 turbocharging HP power. The RTCH Caterpillar has articulated steering and all-wheel drive on all four wheels. He has a container hook on top, produced by the Caterpillar Tractor Company in Peoria, Illinois. In order to reduce the cost and simplify maintenance during its manufacture, the maximum possible number of civilian components was used. The contract for the supply of RTCH was concluded in the 1978 year, 320 machines were delivered from the end of 1981 to the beginning of 1985. The cost of the first model was $ 159,138 at 1978 prices of the year. A small number of these vehicles were purchased by the US Air Force, and more than 120 of these vehicles were received by the US Marine Corps. The container lifters were delivered to the Marine Corps in the 1988 year and were slightly different from those previously set up for the army. The RTCH Caterpillar was created on the basis of the commercial Caterpillar 988B forklift with the addition of a forklift mast like the Hyster loader. Later models were based on the Caterpillar 988F forklift. So in 1997, additional 43 machines based on this model were supplied.



RTCH provides the ability to work with containers 2.4 meter wide, 6 long and 12 meters (20-and 40-and foot containers) and the total weight up to 22.6 tons. It can work on soft soils, such as unprepared sandy beaches and even in sea water at a depth of one and a half meters. Its length is 10.7, width 3.55 and height 4.12 meters, the maximum speed on the highway 40 km / h, the climb is 30%. RTCH Caterpillar is able to stack two containers in height, and can also place them on road or railway platforms. The machine is controlled by one operator and does not carry any weapons, as it is designed to work in the points of material and technical supply.



The top hook fits both ANSI / ISO containers of long 6 and 12 meters. This hook is located on the retractable fork, which provides processing of ANSI / ISO containers of various lengths. If necessary, it can also handle even more containers; in this case, 12-meter fittings are used. The RTCH kit also comes with regular plugs used for loading and unloading flatbed trailers and railway platforms or for moving and storing inventory items.



The lifespan was calculated for 11 years, but in practice it was 15 years. By the 2005 year, all container lifters of the American Army and Marine Corps underwent a major overhaul at the Caterpillar plant in order to extend their service life. So in 2006, the total number of RTCH Caterpillar was 668 machines. In 2000, the US Army contracted Kalmar for the production of more than 500 new container lifts for Kalmar RT240 rough terrain to replace the aging Caterpillar fleet.


Kalmar cross-country container lifts


Kalmar RT-240 cross-country container lift is the successor of RTCH Caterpillar and is manufactured by Kalmar in San Antonio, Texas (Kalmar itself is registered in Finland). The second RTCH was conceived as early as the end of the 1990's by the US Army Transportation School in order to take advantage of the worldwide standardization of sea containers. RTCH Kalmar RT240 was developed in close collaboration with the US Army, designed to handle containers in extreme conditions. RTCH Kalmar is able to lift two 6-meter containers from the railway platform at once or one 12-meter container at a time, which further accelerates loading and unloading. Kalmar Industries was awarded a contract for the production of RTCH in April 2000 of the year based on their commercial container truck RT-240 Reach Stacker.




By December 2004, the American army received 346 RTCH Kalmar purchased under the original contract. At the same time, the Marine Corps joined the army and acquired 25's own RTCH with plans to acquire a total of 105 container lifts. The British Army acquired at least 20 RTCH Kalmar for use in Iraq. In addition, Kalmar is in service with Australia. The cost of the machine is about $ 500,000 at current prices.



Kalmar RT-240 cross-country container lifts are equipped with a six-cylinder Cummins QSM 11 diesel engine with a HP 400 turbocharged engine. RTCH Kalmar weighs 53.5 tons and is capable of handling containers weighing up to 24040 kg. RTCH Kalmar has a moving operator's cabin and a telescopic boom, which allows it to be transported by air (on C-5 or C-17 aircraft), by sea, rail or road without the need for prior disassembly.





In the transport state, its width is 3.65, the length of 15 and the height of 2.98 meter. Preparing for air transport can be done in less than 30 minutes with just one person without help, as well as the need to disassemble and dismantle any part of the machine. The reduced height also greatly simplifies road transport. According to the manufacturers, Kalmar RT240 is the only container lift capable of working on surfaces with a side slope of 27 degrees and rises to 45 degrees. The operating temperature range of RTCH Kalmar is from -40 ° C to + 50 ° C.




RTCH Kalmar is able to work on the seashore, rugged terrain and unprepared surfaces, where it can stack three containers in height, and an arrow can lift the container in the second row. Like RTCH, Caterpillar has four four-wheel steering wheels and can work in sea water at a depth of one and a half meters (according to the British Army up to 1.8 m), which allows it to unload barges and lay containers on the shore. Unlike most container lifters, RTCH uses one tire on each wheel. All wheels are driving and both axles are turning, simultaneous rotation of all wheels in one direction is possible, and all steering is controlled by a computer for more precise movement. The axles are no-stress, and when driving on roads, a single-axis drive with a single pivot axis is possible.




Randy Wingenroth, vice president of Kalmar RT, says: "RT240 revolutionized logistics around the world for the US military and its allies, and now for the first time we are offering this product in the commercial market."










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  1. redwolf_13
    redwolf_13 April 23 2013 08: 52 New
    +7
    Good common sense. Which can and should be adopted. I saw Amerovskaya fortified base where the perimeter consisted of containers. Strong, reliable and comfortable than what reminded the camp of Roman legionnaires
  2. Canep
    Canep April 23 2013 09: 04 New
    +2
    What service This should take place, it looks like engineering. Soon gantry cranes will be adopted. Although the idea of ​​the perimeter of the containers is not bad, if you fill them with sand, the wall will be almost impregnable.
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 23 2013 16: 49 New
      +4
      What service This should take place, it looks like engineering.

      outsourcing outsourcing, but engineering troops are needed.
      1. LION
        LION April 23 2013 21: 08 New
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        None of these are engineering troops or Know-How. Visit the sites of construction equipment JCB, CAT, MERLO, Hyundai, Komatsu and Manitou. There you will see a wide range of fork, telescopic and other loaders. Such a thing worked for me at a construction site (four in one: a front-end loader, a tower, a bulldozer, a crane manipulator, a forklift. It is possible to attach a drilling rig and a hydraulic hammer) An extremely convenient little thing. Saving money is huge (no need to order cranes, dump trucks, etc.)
        And the article seems to be hidden unobtrusively.
        1. Professor
          April 24 2013 07: 43 New
          +2
          Visit the sites of construction equipment JCB, CAT, MERLO, Hyundai, Komatsu and Manitou. There you will see a wide range of fork, telescopic and other loaders.

          Indulge us, show the performance characteristics of these machines. With the depth of overcoming ford, gradient of rise, lateral slope. Do not be shy. wink

          And the article seems to be hidden unobtrusively.

          Well, why is it hidden? The CIA openly pays me for this. laughing
          1. LION
            LION April 24 2013 12: 46 New
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            What is the gradient? Which ford? This is a purely civilian technique adopted for the needs of the army. Painted in khaki and the engine is not Euro 6.http: //www.kalmarind.ru/http: //rossiya.cat.com/ Manufacturers are cunning. This is not a development for the army. But, I agree, such a technique is simply necessary in the RA. Unfortunately, they do nothing of the kind in Russia. They don’t even collect it. They wanted Kamaz-Komatsu, but the cart seems to be there now.
            1. Professor
              April 24 2013 14: 03 New
              +1
              What is the gradient? Which ford? This is a purely civilian technique adopted for the needs of the army.

              You are mistaken. This technique is specially designed for the army based on civilian designs. And only recently have such container lifts become available for civilian users.
    2. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 10 May 2017 21: 54 New
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      amers have long had grid-packet-panel fortifications inside of which earth, gravel, sand, etc. are covered.
  3. biglow
    biglow April 23 2013 09: 47 New
    +1
    a good idea, only the price of a loader of 500 thousand kills
  4. 755962
    755962 April 23 2013 10: 20 New
    +1
    Thank you, professor, for the material. The man of the word. The machine is universal both for military needs and for civilian use. And irreplaceable for an unequipped bridgehead. Considering that almost everything is transported in containers ... Tady oh. About gas and oil workers I can finally keep silent.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko April 23 2013 10: 53 New
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      Quote: 755962
      Tady oh. About gas and oil industry finally can be silent.

      These are needed on the tracked track.
      Yes, and the "device" in our reality is easily replaced by a conventional truck crane, which will be more universal in work.
      Of course, I was more pleased: this is work on an unprepared shore along the pantone mooring from the ship. This is broadcasting, this is BUSINESS, GREAT HEALTH!
      1. Professor
        April 23 2013 12: 13 New
        +5
        Yes, and the "device" in our reality is easily replaced by a conventional truck crane, which will be more universal in work.

        1. And the cranes of the bourgeoisie also piled up.
        2. In your statement, the whole essence of the difference between the draft and professional army is stated. In the draft army where the soldiers are not worth the money, containers are not needed at all. They brought the car and unload it with the whole platoon. And that car, even with potatoes, even with coal. The same situation with the crane. How many people are needed to remove one container with a crane and install it in the third row? How long will this whole procedure take? But with a container lift, only one fighter does all this in minutes. In Russian ports, such squids are also dissected.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 23 2013 12: 37 New
          +2
          Do you think that anyone can perform the function of crane operator and riggers, you don’t need much professionalism?

          Quote: Professor
          How many people are needed to remove one container with a crane and install it in the third row? How long will this whole procedure take? But with a container lift, only one fighter does all this in minutes.

          The big question is, do we need to install containers in the third row? We are not Americans, on another continent we don’t fight.

          We need containers. These are the machines we need too




          Container lifts? I don’t think so. Extremely specialized machine
          1. Professor
            April 23 2013 12: 43 New
            +6
            The big question is, do we need to install containers in the third row? We are not Americans, on another continent we don’t fight.

            Thank God, Russia and its own territory are such that without a massive transfer of troops in no way.

            We need containers. These are the machines we need too

            And what will you shoot from the railway platform? wink
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 23 2013 12: 53 New
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              Quote: Professor
              And what will you shoot from the railway platform?

              Gantry crane. At each freight station there are such. If in the fields, then you can use an ordinary truck crane - you don’t have to put anything in the “third row” there, just throw it on the ground so that the self-loader picks it up.
              1. Professor
                April 23 2013 14: 04 New
                +4
                The approach is clear. The bourgeoisie are spoiled, however, and use specially sharpened equipment for this, and even developed special folding containers.

                Photo in pursuit:














                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 23 2013 14: 31 New
                  +2
                  I do not think that the bourgeois are especially spoiled. It is unlikely that such units are in every motorized infantry battalion. Yes, and in the teams too. Most likely, this is the technique of specialized units involved in military transportation.
                  We can use civilian infrastructure, where such loaders are included.
                  1. Professor
                    April 23 2013 14: 49 New
                    +2
                    it is unlikely that such units are in every motorized infantry battalion

                    In each and it is not necessary. I indicated in the article how many such machines were purchased.

                    We can use civilian infrastructure, where such loaders are included.

                    What else remains to be done?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 23 2013 15: 03 New
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                      But the cranes in each motorized infantry brigade are, at least in the "heavy". So the bourgeoisie everything happens exactly the same as ours. The steep container lifts will work out at the place of unloading of supply vessels, they will install containers on vehicles by force, and they will allow the troops to deal with this gift themselves. Including
                      Quote: Professor
                      They brought the car and unload it with the whole platoon.

                      And while it does not play a special role, who has to unload these containers, conscripts or superprofessionals.
                      1. Professor
                        April 23 2013 15: 24 New
                        +3
                        The steep container lifts will work out at the place of unloading of supply vessels, they will install containers on vehicles by force, and they will allow the troops to deal with this gift themselves.

                        This is not true. One such steep one in a quarter of an hour will unload a dozen 20-ton containers from a barge to an unprepared shore, and a depth of one and a half meters is not an obstacle for him. What about the crane?

                        And while it does not play a special role, who has to unload these containers, conscripts or superprofessionals.

                        And here you are mistaken. The container is delivered directly to the recipient and he can use it without overloading everything in the warehouse. For example, during the reserve camp of Tzahal from the base, a container with pre-prepared equipment, such as clothes and shoes, is delivered to the battalion. There is a container with communication devices and so on. Thus, if earlier mobilization was carried out at stationary bases and ran from warehouse to warehouse, now you can mobilize a battalion even on a city lawn. By the way, weapons are also delivered in a standard container, the gunsmith prints out and get close.
                        Is this concept familiar in logistics just in time? TOYOTA, for example, works like this, from a container bypassing a warehouse to an assembly line.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 23 2013 15: 42 New
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                        Quote: Professor
                        The container is delivered directly to the recipient and he can use it without overloading everything in the warehouse.

                        And what are you going to remove from the car? And what to put back on it when relocating? That's right, the first option: a crane and a self-loader, the second option: unloading-loading manually, the third option: a steep container lift worth half a million in each battalion.

                        By the way, why containers? For example, we use storage trailers. And sometimes loaded cars in the warehouse under the awnings are.
                      3. Professor
                        April 23 2013 15: 49 New
                        +3
                        And what are you going to remove from the car?


                        By the way, why containers? For example, we use storage trailers. And sometimes loaded cars in the warehouse under the awnings are.

                        Probably because America is not such a rich country to store sapper shovels and axes (I actually observed this picture in the sapper battalion) on a truck for ten years. Probably also because the loaded semi-trailers are not willingly stored in three rows. Continue? wink
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 23 2013 16: 10 New
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                        You have not answered how you are going to remove containers from the machine, and how to put them back. When answering, do not forget that most transport vehicles in any army in the world are not equipped with self-elevators. So it’s an exceptionally cool crane or the hands of soldiers.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Probably also because the loaded semi-trailers are not willingly stored in three rows.

                        Ammunition was stored in our vehicles. And you know, containers with them can be arranged in three rows, but it is inexpedient to dig a lot, and the site for such storage will be much larger in area than when stored in one row. Even if you use concrete slabs as clothing of coolness.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Probably because America is not such a rich country to store sapper shovels and axes (I actually observed this picture in the sapper battalion) on a truck for ten years.

                        Machines of the battle group are still in storage, they have very strict requirements for resource consumption. Why do they have to be empty?
                      5. Professor
                        April 23 2013 16: 29 New
                        +3
                        When answering, do not forget that most transport vehicles in any army in the world are not equipped with self-elevators.

                        I’m not talking about “any” army, but about the fact that it only pays half a billion dollars to rent containers.


                        So it’s an exceptionally cool crane or the hands of soldiers.

                        You have already been explained which crane to use. And obviously not this


                        Ammunition was stored in our vehicles.

                        And we have shovels and axes in ZakVO. Do you think that during the transfer of two divisions in 4200 containers and semi-trailers there were exclusively ammunition?

                        Why do they have to be empty?

                        Logically, only now when the truck is needed and not with axes who will unload it? In the same ZakVO, one big chief from Tbilisi decided to take the equipment to the march and it turned out that the engine would not start at the weather station based on the GAZ-66. The reason is commonplace. Guess three times. Correctly. good While he was there for a couple of years waiting for his finest hour, the servants removed everything that was possible from the engine. This GAZ in the squadron was not far from the headquarters and the watch was not put to him ...
                      6. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 23 2013 21: 06 New
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                        Quote: Professor
                        I’m not talking about “any” army, but about the fact that it only pays half a billion dollars to rent containers.

                        This army can be perverted as you like, including using 35-ton containers. There’s nothing to carry them anyway. The device in the picture pulls 15 tons, but it does not make up the majority of US army trucks, which are cars with a carrying capacity of up to 10 tons, and are not equipped with any self-lifting devices.

                        Quote: Professor
                        You have already been explained which crane to use. And obviously not this

                        The explainer forgot the payload of most of our machines. Or didn’t know. Will there be enough sixteen-ton crane to load 9-ton containers? I think yes.

                        Quote: Professor
                        And we have shovels and axes in ZakVO. Do you think that during the transfer of two divisions in 4200 containers and semi-trailers there were exclusively ammunition?

                        Did you have shovels and axes in all the machines in ZakVO?

                        Quote: Professor
                        Logically, only now when the truck is needed and not with axes who will unload it?

                        For this, there are vehicles of the transport group. Combat and combatant stand in storage and do not buzz.

                        Quote: Professor
                        While he was there for a couple of years waiting for his finest hour, the servants removed everything that was possible from the engine.

                        Burdock commander paid out of pocket. And it is right.
                      7. Professor
                        April 24 2013 07: 59 New
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                        This army can be perverted as you like, including using 35-ton containers.

                        I tell you the numbers about 2 divisions, container rental, and you give me the lyrics.

                        The explainer forgot the payload of most of our machines. Or didn’t know. Will there be enough sixteen-ton crane to load 9-ton containers? I think yes.

                        1. Is not a fact.
                        2. And what about the 20-ton? Ritch does this without straining. fellow

                        Did you have shovels and axes in all the machines in ZakVO?

                        There were a lot of things. The same shovels also lay in stacks (or they could wait in the airtight container), KrAZ trucks were clogged with mine detectors. The rest we did not examine.

                        For this, there are vehicles of the transport group. Combat and combatant stand in storage and do not buzz.

                        This is the case in rich countries. And in the poor, such as the United States, they try to use trucks for their intended purpose - to transport goods, and not to store material assets on them.

                        Burdock commander paid out of pocket. And it is right.

                        Are you married for the first time? He paid nothing. He gave the brains to his driver and the next day he took out all the missing spare parts. Guessed where he got them?

                        PS
                        Do you think they will launch this car if necessary?
                      8. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 24 2013 09: 27 New
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                        Quote: Professor
                        I tell you the numbers about 2 divisions, container rental, and you give me the lyrics.

                        Do you think American cargo vehicles are lyrics? Well, for me, a direct indication that the vast majority of containers were not used for temporary storage of mat. funds. It was loaded, transported by civilian vehicles to the port, loaded onto transport ships, at the end point, the containers were unloaded onto vehicles. In fact, this is no different from loading in a covered wagon at one freight station and unloading at another.

                        Quote: Professor
                        And what about the 20 ton? Ritch does this without straining.

                        But the “Ural” with its load capacity of 9 tons is still straining.

                        Quote: Professor
                        This is the case in rich countries. And in the poor, such as the United States, they try to use trucks for their intended purpose - to transport goods, and not to store material assets on them.

                        You know, I very much doubt that the Americans do not store most of their transport vehicles, using only part of them for everyday needs. I don’t think they are as brainless as you want them to be.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Are you married for the first time? He paid nothing. He gave the brains to his driver and the next day he took out all the missing spare parts. Guessed where he got them?

                        Of course I guessed. From another car of the same part. So in the end the commander nevertheless paid the burdock. Not this one, so different.
                      9. Professor
                        April 24 2013 10: 03 New
                        +1
                        Well, for me, a direct indication that the vast majority of containers were not used for temporary storage of mat. funds.

                        Do you upload photos of American storage bases or do you find it yourself?

                        It was loaded, transported by civilian vehicles to the port, loaded onto transport ships, at the end point, the containers were unloaded onto vehicles. In fact, this is no different from loading in a covered wagon at one freight station and unloading at another.

                        It differs in the time of loading and unloading, safety of cargo and the number of personnel involved.

                        But the “Ural” with its load capacity of 9 tons is still straining.

                        Lucky bourgeois that they have no Urals


                        I don’t think they are as brainless as you want them to be.

                        They are very pragmatic and will not use a truck worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in the form of a rack.

                        So in the end the commander nevertheless paid the burdock. Not this one, so different.

                        In the end, the car was simply decommissioned (if I’m not mistaken ten years after delivery, but I can check it) and no commander paid for anything.

                        PS
                        What are you trying to prove? What can you do without containers? Of course you can, no doubt. However, it is more convenient, reliable, faster and cheaper with them.
                    2. lazy
                      lazy April 25 2013 16: 29 New
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                      and they start and drive and sleep in the kung in 30 degree frost, you just have to watch. although I must admit there are also disadvantages. dry closets in the form of bushes, a washstand in the form of a cropped plastic bottle. and in summer the lack of air conditioning directly annoys, the fan does not save
        2. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 23 2013 17: 10 New
          +1
          ProfessorI welcome !. Thanks for the article, very informative. Logistics is generally a curious thing. Here is an example:
          Amateur photos of US Army soldier from Afghanistan
          http://topwar.ru/26973-lyubitelskie-fotografii-voenosluzhaschego-armii-ssha-iz-a
          fganistana.html

          Comments on the article were more informative than the article itself ... (I'm talking about the fortifications of Hesco Bastion.)
          So the topic is curious. Especially, in the context of the acquisition of UDC and base places under construction for them. (In Vladik and Peter and Paul-Kamchatsky)
  • region34
    region34 April 23 2013 19: 29 New
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    heh, I'm afraid you have very superficial ideas about the capabilities of a truck crane, and so a loaded 40-foot container is removed from the truck semi-trailer (!) by 2 (!) truck cranes, one of them is 50 tons another 25 tons, and then in my opinion they just lifted it and the truck got them under it
    so there’s no need for fairy tales that these loaders will be able to replace an ordinary truck crane, if it can, then it’s a very unusual tone for 80-100 commercials, there are not many such monsters in the country and the cost will be even more
  • dmitreach
    dmitreach April 23 2013 17: 01 New
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    The big question is, do we need to install containers in the third row? We are not Americans, on another continent we don’t fight.

    Lopatovwelcome! We have so much vast territory (and, by the way, unlike the "two-dimensional" political map of the world, we never have a pool table), which sometimes reminds us of some fantastic saga about interplanetary travel ... How much time you need to spend to get from Kaliningrad to Vladik? Like to another planet. Fir-trees ...
    Another example. From the history. The Roman Empire flourished on the shores of the Mediterranean puddle ... For the transportation network of that time was water (although the Romans came up with roads, in the modern sense). So you can imagine that from Naples to Tunisia, would anyone travel through Greece - Syria - Egypt? And now, mentally flip the map 90 degrees counterclockwise and look at the map of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk ... Where is Vladik and where is Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky ... Nobody goes there through Magadan. Roads ... More precisely, the "directions" and those - not a lot. "winter road" is a way of life.
    here you are
    We are not Americans, on another continent we don’t fight.
    To master your country!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 23 2013 21: 16 New
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      Greetings. The train has the longest route for me for five days. With a change but fast.

      I skated once with the field commander, they drove for 8 days, they drove the equipment to Omsk. Suhpay was taken for 2 weeks.
  • LION
    LION April 23 2013 21: 13 New
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    These are cars with swap bodies. Not uncommon in civil work. And in Russia they do. If you want, today you’re a scoop, you want - tomorrow a garbage truck, and a week later - a flatbed truck.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 23 2013 21: 19 New
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      I do not think that the transition scoop-board is feasible. And in general it makes sense.
  • Canep
    Canep April 23 2013 14: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Papakiko
    Yes, and the "device" in our reality is easily replaced by a conventional truck crane, which will be more universal in work.

    To lift a container weighing 35 tons, you need a truck crane with a lifting capacity of at least 50 tons, and if you attach a 12 meter container at the corners, then because of the large length of the slings, you need an even more powerful truck crane, to put the container in the third row you need a crane with a lifting capacity of 100 tons. 100 This is no longer an ordinary truck crane, it is a piece of work. The patency of such a crane is by no means suitable for military use. And a crane operator needs a person with an education.
    PS for truck cranes, the carrying capacity depends on the reach and the length of the boom, with an increase in these sizes it drops sharply.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 23 2013 21: 10 New
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      Do you know which trucks are used in the troops? What is their carrying capacity? What are you going to transport a 12-meter container weighing 35 tons? Dragging by drag?
      1. Canep
        Canep April 24 2013 07: 02 New
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        I didn’t understand something, what I suggested was to carry, load, or use these containers somehow. I just explained that for loading a loaded container you need special equipment, or a large-capacity truck crane. As for those cars that are used in the army, I am aware that none of them are suitable, only a semi-trailer for transporting tanks with a KZKT or Hurricane tractor is suitable.
    2. LION
      LION April 23 2013 21: 37 New
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      You are apparently the person responsible for the safe operation of lifting gear.
      1. Canep
        Canep April 24 2013 06: 30 New
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        On the contrary, I am engaged in the development of PPR, and sometimes I have to "play on the verge of a foul."
  • Professor
    April 23 2013 12: 15 New
    +5
    Thank you professors for the material.

    I am glad to help. Unfortunately, for most readers, the materiel is not at all interesting. sad
    1. 755962
      755962 April 23 2013 17: 03 New
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      Quote: Professor
      materiel

      It is on such nuances and military “games” are lost. And the success of a particular military operation is often decided. And one should not forget that a seemingly invisible “materiel” can significantly facilitate the solution of seemingly solvable problems (sorry for the tautology). Take the same article with the military bulldozers. There are many examples. I look forward to new reviews on the "glands". Regards.
  • karbofos
    karbofos April 23 2013 14: 57 New
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    this is suitable for the non-equipped bridgehead, when replacing the manipulator, at least put the containers wherever you want. and not only from containers defense can be built but from improvised materials - broken equipment, stones, etc. and squids in our ports and so drive, if necessary, and load the military. Americans let them build a faucet for every drawer, a lot of money.
  • Simple
    Simple April 23 2013 11: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: redwolf_13
    resembled a camp of Roman legionnaires


    They have their own experience of conquering the "wild West", most likely from there.
    Thanks to the professor for the material, informative.
  • Simple
    Simple April 23 2013 13: 04 New
    +2
    German compact Reach-Stacker stacker for Bundeswehr with 32000 main load kg



    http://www.hfh-group.com/herbst_main/herbst_d/herbst_deutsch/SK_REACH-STACKER.ht
    ml
    http://www.hfh-group.com/herbst_main/herbst_d/herbst_deutsch/SK_REACH-STACKER_fi
    les / ORION% 20V% 20BW.pdf

    Reach-Stacker of TEREX company:


    http://www.terex.com/cranes/de/products/newequipment/index.htm
    1. Professor
      April 23 2013 14: 05 New
      +3
      TEREX- They are in service with the British Army, but they only have cross-country ability.
  • berg
    berg April 23 2013 13: 31 New
    +2
    Thank you for the article!
  • Gahprom
    Gahprom April 23 2013 14: 24 New
    +2
    Yes, and the "device" in our reality is easily replaced by a conventional truck crane, which will be more universal in work.

    if everything was so simple, but Kalmar would not be the leader of reach stackers in the world, but would make pans, and the whole world load containers with cranes
  • Simple
    Simple April 23 2013 14: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    http://www.terex.com/cranes/de/products/newequipment/index.htm


    Issue an order with appropriate funding.
    Or the question of the market + financing for development and production.
    TEREX offers Rough-Terrain-Krane.
    The same goes for the German "Omega5" - what they ordered, they did.

  • Simple
    Simple April 23 2013 14: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    TEREX- They are in service with the British army, but they only have cross-country ability


    Issue an order with appropriate funding.
    Or the question of the market + financing for development and production.
    TEREX offers Rough-Terrain-Krane.
    The same goes for the German "Omega5" - what they ordered, they did.

  • Canep
    Canep April 23 2013 14: 44 New
    +2
    Dear professor, I am waiting for materials on engineering weapons and equipment.
    1. 755962
      755962 April 23 2013 17: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Canep
      Dear professor, I am waiting for materials on engineering weapons and equipment.

      JOIN!
  • karbofos
    karbofos April 23 2013 15: 02 New
    0
    this is suitable for a non-equipped bridgehead, when replacing the manipulator, at least put the containers wherever you want. And you will also pave the way to the installation site. and not only from containers defense can be built but from improvised materials - broken equipment, stones, etc. and squids in our ports and so drive, if necessary, and load the military.
    1. Professor
      April 23 2013 15: 25 New
      +1
      The idea is interesting, but it seems to me that it will turn it over from a 25-ton container.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 23 2013 15: 43 New
        0
        Tank-based unit?
      2. Canep
        Canep April 23 2013 17: 47 New
        +2
        Even a 50-ton crane will definitely turn over 39 tons weigh, so its weight is distributed not for protection against shells but for the greatest carrying capacity, and the tank chassis weighs about 30 tons.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 23 2013 20: 27 New
          0
          Specifically, this IMR weighs 51 tons. I hope you will not claim that there are twenty-one on his arrow.
          1. Canep
            Canep April 24 2013 05: 55 New
            +1
            The boom can weigh about 8 tons, the dump is about the same for cutting, the hydraulic equipment and the plow account for the rest of the weight. The concept of a counterweight, which accounts for the lion's share of the weight of a truck crane, is not in the construction of the MPI. In addition, any truck crane has outriggers (outriggers), which increase the stability of the crane, they are not available for PMI and it is quite difficult to put it. I guess there will be a question that caterpillar cranes can work without supports. I answer right away that not a single crawler crane fits into the transport dimensions, on light cranes (MKG-25) the tracks can be moved apart, and on heavy cranes they are generally transported separately. And the crawler track of the crane does not have a soft suspension, in contrast to the IMR.
  • karbofos
    karbofos April 23 2013 15: 03 New
    0
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/958/oydm336.jpg
    this is suitable for the non-equipped bridgehead, when replacing the manipulator, at least put the containers wherever you want. and not only from containers defense can be built but from improvised materials - broken equipment, stones, etc. and squids in our ports and so drive, if necessary, and load the military. Americans let them build a faucet for every drawer, a lot of money.
  • lazy
    lazy April 23 2013 16: 27 New
    +1
    great promotional article. Professor you need to demand a fee from manufacturers. wink
  • Old skeptic
    Old skeptic April 23 2013 16: 54 New
    +5
    No - these Amer loaders are an excellent technique. We need to buy more from them, and sell them together with CLUB-K.
    But what a good idea, and everyone is comfortable and fun. Our potential buyers need to load containers with missiles.
    1. Canep
      Canep April 23 2013 18: 02 New
      0
      Do such containerized missile systems exist? Or is this just a good idea?
      1. Old skeptic
        Old skeptic April 23 2013 18: 14 New
        +3
        Already eat. Passed through tests, and is in full swing offered to the international market as an effective defense against a potential "aggressor" wink
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 24 2013 10: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Do you think they will launch this car if necessary?

    SKP-11 will be surely launched, though it will be minimized first, then it will be taken and will go to a new place, or, as a last resort, to the other end of the airfield.
    I liked the article, it is very useful for the overall development.
    1. Professor
      April 24 2013 10: 44 New
      0
      then lead

      They won’t get it. From there, hawks from the company to their trucks all that could be pulled. Although there are exceptions.