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Heroes of the war with Georgia are returning from opals

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Heroes of the war with Georgia are returning from opalsIn the near future, serious personnel changes may occur in the Ministry of Defense. Andrei Tretyak, who already held this position until 2010, can become Deputy Chief of the General Staff. An Anatoly Khrulev, the ex-commander of the 58 Army, will head the Academy of the General Staff. Thus, Sergei Shoigu returns to the Defense Ministry generals who commanded the troops who took part in the war with Georgia.


About ten of them had previously been expelled from the military department, including with the establishment of criminal cases. And the reason for the prosecution of the generals often became anonymous letters, addressed to the then current Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov. Sources in the defense ministry say that Serdyukov did not forgive his subordinates that it was they who made all the decisions necessary for a successful operation in Georgia. The minister himself was then unavailable for communication, since during the August events he was allegedly on a hunt in Kazakhstan.

According to the Rosbalt source at the Ministry of Defense, after in August 2008, the shock units of the Russian troops were transferred to Beslan, where they faced a problem that was not given particular importance. Certain persons of “Georgian nationality” began to approach the commanding staff, expressing dissatisfaction with the fact that the military had overloaded the transport infrastructure of Beslan, which hindered their business. They insistently requested that planes, armored personnel carriers and soldiers deliver as little as possible, offering to generously pay for such a service. Having received a refusal, the visitors turned to threats, and only succeeded in putting them in place by a promise of something wrong, or something seriously “shot according to the laws of wartime”. Those responded snapped back: "We know you all by name and you still regret it." Later, representatives of the Ministry of Defense asked the locals who the unknown people were, but they only threw up their hands. There was a version that the visitors were representatives of the Georgian special services, but they were already gone. The generals forgot about the unpleasant incident, but as it turned out, nothing happened.

A source in the military says that after the end of a successful war with Georgia, the generals began to receive threats by telephone from people who spoke with a characteristic Georgian accent. And then anonymous letters began to come to Anatoly Serdyukov’s name and to the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office, not mass ones, but, so-called, point letters. Every six months, the "well-wishers" reported negative information about a general, and only about those who commanded the troops who fought with Georgia. All the anonymous letters began in a standard way: "We, servicemen of the Ministry of Defense, want to report about facts that have become known to us." And then there was a listing of numerous crimes allegedly committed by the generals, some of which were frankly fantastic. GWP did not pay any attention to such letters. But the Defense Ministry suddenly gave them a turn.

At first, the local "special persons" were involved in checking the stated facts, but they did not find any evidence. According to the agency interlocutor, then Anatoly Serdyukov connected his deputy Tatyana Shevtsova to the work, who considered that the inspectors didn’t “dig” well enough. As a result, the legal department of the Ministry of Defense, who was then headed by the former employee of the Federal Tax Service and the “favorite” Serdyukova Marina Balakirev, joined the verification of the unknowns. And then came the organizational conclusions, based, as the sources of Rosbalt assert, on information from anonymous letters.

In 2010, Serdyukov dismissed Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces Vladimir Boldyrev, who headed the operational headquarters in Vladikavkaz, coordinating the activities of the military in South Ossetia, and the commander of the North Caucasus Military District, Sergey Makarov. It was he who immediately after the attack of Georgia decided to begin the transfer of troops to Beslan for a possible subsequent offensive. Then the Defense Ministry was forced to leave the deputy commander of the Airborne Forces, Vyacheslav Borisov, who, together with the paratroopers, first entered the territory of South Ossetia seized by Georgia. In the same year, 2010 removed from the military department the deputy chief of the General Staff, Andrei Tretiak, who was immediately responsible for several areas during the war with Georgia. Later he was appointed head of the Academy of the General Staff, but already as a civilian. According to the Rosbalt source at the Ministry of Defense, all the generals were removed extremely harshly, and some were told that they should be happy that they were not yet in the dock.

Then a criminal case was initiated against the commander of the 58 Army Anatoly Khrulev. The general, who was injured during the war in Georgia, was accused of illegally obtaining an apartment from the defense department. The investigation was initiated on the basis of anonymously checking materials by the Ministry of Defense itself. As a result, he was dismissed, the court sentenced Khrulev to two years “conditionally.” Later, the general was pardoned by a special decree of President Dmitry Medvedev.

The next under investigation was the deputy commander of the military transport aviation Valery Shemyakin, who immediately after the Georgian attack on South Ossetia was engaged in the transportation of troops to Beslan, and personally was at the helm of one of the aircraft. It was Shemyakin who carried on the soldier’s blanket the wounded Khrulev to An-72, who delivered the bleeding general for the operation to Moscow. Shemyakin was also charged with unreasonable receipt of an apartment. The materials were collected by the Ministry of Defense as part of the verification of the statement of unknown military personnel. Criminal cases against Khrulev and Shemyakin were led by the same investigator, Immameyev.

It is noteworthy that after the Ministry of Defense received an anonymous letter on Shemyakin, the department for 11 months conducted 16 checks of the information contained in it and found no evidence. But all the same, it was decided to launch an investigation, and then the materials arrived at the 235 th garrison military court. Despite the fact that these materials do not contain a resolution on initiating a case directly against Shemyakin, as required by law, hearings on the hero of the Georgian war continue to this day.

It is worth noting that the charges are not about chic mansions, but about a very modest housing by any measure. In particular, Shemyakinu of the Ministry of Defense was allocated an apartment in the far suburbs worth 800 thousand rubles. Recall that one of the "favorites" Serdyukov - Head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense Evgenia Vasilyeva at that time lived in the 13-room apartment at the price of $ 10 million, which is located in an elite house in Moscow's Molochny Lane. Even more luxurious apartments in this building belong to Anatoly Serdyukov’s sister Galina Puzikova.

According to a source in the Ministry of Defense, after the mysterious anonymous letters, four more generals were expelled from the Ministry of Defense, who took part in the operation “peace enforcement”.

“Who the author of the anonymous letters was never established,” the agency’s source said. “My opinion is that they were prepared by the Georgian special services, who collected dossiers on Russian generals, and then sent their compromising materials to the Defense Ministry in the form of letters from unknown servicemen. To the extent that there were checks on the information set out in the messages of "well-wishers", the generals received calls, during which people with a Georgian accent frankly scoffed and promised that they would soon "fly out" from the Ministry of Defense.

Information about such calls "Rosbalt" confirmed Valery Shemyakin. “The unknown really called me, they remembered the war with Georgia, they promised trouble,” the general told the agency. Why did Anatoly Serdyukov decide to move anonymous letters in spite of the fact that the authorities of Georgia could relate to them? Source "Rosbalt" in the Ministry of Defense expressed the opinion that this is directly related to the operation of "peace enforcement". After the Georgian troops began shelling South Ossetia, the generals, including Makarov and Khrulev, could not reach Serdyukov. Ostensibly at that moment he was on a hunt in Kazakhstan. As a result, it was decided to start the transfer of troops to Beslan without the approval of the Minister of Defense.

According to the agency interlocutor, Serdyukov appeared only ten hours later, but did not show any activity in a critical situation. Generals largely had to act at their own peril and risk. As a result, they became the heroes of the Georgian campaign, while Serdyukov faded into the background. And then the commanders and their deputies were expelled from the Ministry of Defense - as an unpleasant reminder of the events of August 2008.

A source in the Defense Ministry notes that the internal conflict among Serdyukov’s “favorites” also affected the resignations. The same apartments, mainly, which became the reason for claims against the generals, were issued by the decision of the Department of Housing (JO) of the Ministry of Defense, which was headed by a former employee of the Federal Tax Service of the Russian Federation Olga Lirshaft. It is unlikely that Serdyukov would have challenged the decisions of his “favorite”. However, according to the agency interlocutor, then Lirshaft fell into disgrace: allegedly because of the conflict around Vasilyeva. As a result, led to the resignation of the head of JO. And in such a situation, the fairness of allocating Lirshaft apartments could be questioned and even attracted the attention of law enforcement agencies.
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  1. fenix57
    fenix57 April 23 2013 05: 43 New
    24
    Hello!"...expressing dissatisfaction with the fact that the military overloaded the transport infrastructure of Beslan, which interferes with their business."- they probably hindered Serdyukov's business ... hi
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk April 23 2013 06: 54 New
      30
      Quote: fenix57
      Serdyukovsky business and interfere ...


      Perdyukov has long been writing sweatshirts in the Arctic in between digging trenches in the permafrost, in a group with his proshma ... companions.
      1. Alexander
        Alexander April 23 2013 07: 37 New
        12
        I always said that you need to hang Tauretkin on a fountain pole
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. April 23 2013 08: 51 New
          +1
          All these embezzlers, parasites and bribe takers can’t be cleared without a new 1937.
      2. Ustas
        Ustas April 23 2013 07: 55 New
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        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Perdyukov has long been writing sweatshirts in the Arctic in between digging trenches in the permafrost, in a group with his proshma ... companions.

        There are two important issues in resolving which the current president’s rating will increase or fall to zero:
        1. This year, Serdyukov should sit on a bunk.
        2. Medvedev and Co. this year to resign.
        1. patline
          patline April 23 2013 09: 24 New
          +9
          1. This year, Serdyukov should sit on a bunk.
          2. Medvedev and Co. this year to resign.

          Wait, wait. First you need to abandon the moratorium on the death penalty, and only then judge the traitors of the motherland.
        2. morehod73
          morehod73 April 23 2013 09: 25 New
          +2
          ... and an amendment to the Criminal Code, as before, confiscation of property .... although it is hard to believe ....
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel April 23 2013 13: 20 New
            0
            And Vasilyeva to leave one room in her apartment - a combined bathroom with a bolt outside and a lattice on the window in the door.
        3. yak69
          yak69 April 23 2013 12: 50 New
          0
          Quote: Ustas
          the current president’s rating will rise or fall to zero:

          The rating of PUs will NEVER drop to zero - Fursens, Chubais and iPhones will not allow this to be done. Yes, all kinds of goat-stealing (of which there are thousands!), And fanatical fans of PU (stupefied in love for his idol). So don’t hope.
          The wizard-churov will come and fix everything!

          And then, look for yourself, because there were so many people in the Moscow Region and the GVP to denigrate these generals, conduct investigations and make unfair decisions. I repeat once again: the citizens of the Russian Federation were divided into those who support this predatory course of power and who sharply do not accept this lawlessness.
          Personally, I consider it unacceptable to go global with those who support such a course. They are accomplices of a state crime.
      3. Andy
        Andy April 23 2013 09: 27 New
        +2
        yeah, he is a protege of Putin. look who shoved it. alone he would have weakened his intestines to do such things. and why he still does not sit.

        "From February 15, 2007 to November 6, 2012 - Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. By the time of his appointment he had the military rank of senior lieutenant in the reserve, at the time of retirement - colonel in the reserve [10]. In 2007 he passed the courses of the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces Russian Federation. [6]

        President V. Putin explained the meaning of such a personnel decision by the fact that in the context of the development and re-equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, associated with the expenditure of "huge budgetary funds", "you need a person with experience in the field of economics and finance" [11]
        1. consul
          consul April 23 2013 10: 15 New
          +2
          There was a feeling that Serdyukov had to "merge" the war with Georgia. It is good that they are returning people capable of independent (not to the detriment of the situation), decisive actions.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson April 23 2013 12: 43 New
            +1
            Yeah! Well, the little article! Once again, makes you think hard ......
        2. SSR
          SSR April 23 2013 15: 19 New
          0
          Quote: Andy
          President Vladimir Putin explained the meaning of such a personnel decision to

          Quote: Ross
          Tired of indignation, but things are still there.

          Quote: plis
          Guilty of treason, sentenced to capital punishment, this is how the case of Serdyukov should end.

          Quote: _Igor_
          Let's ask him for GDP. Communication with the people is planned.

          This is the most correct one in my opinion))) and let him try to coddle like in a pan .. and according to the answers we will count the chickens.
          Ask questions here.
          http://www.moskva-putinu.ru./form.htm
          PS.
          Admins, can a link to questions put on Putin’s homepage?
      4. Ross
        Ross April 23 2013 14: 15 New
        0
        Perdyukov has long been writing sweatshirts in the Arctic in between digging trenches in the permafrost, in a group with his proshma ... companions.


        Tired of being indignant, but things are still there ...
    2. luka095
      luka095 April 23 2013 15: 47 New
      +1
      Why not the FSB do this scribble, establish the authors of the anonymous letters.
      And Serdyukov, of course, should rest on his bunk ...
  2. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 23 2013 05: 44 New
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    Guilty, sentenced to capital punishment, this is how the case of Serdyukov should end.
    1. dect
      dect April 23 2013 06: 12 New
      +7
      I totally agree with you and there’s nothing to be surprised at! The corrupt elite tried to conduct their game, covering themselves in every possible way. It is sad that thanks to such grief-leaders, it is precisely those people who, contrary to everything, shed blood, benefit by deed, and not by the notorious word.
    2. folds
      folds April 23 2013 11: 50 New
      0
      I will add:
      Guilty in treason Homeland, is sentenced to capital punishment, this is how the case of Serdyukov should end.
  3. _Igor_
    _Igor_ April 23 2013 06: 01 New
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    and Serdyukov is still at large? and there are no complaints against him? maybe he will also be restored to his post? Let's ask him for GDP. Communication with the people is planned.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 23 2013 07: 33 New
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      Quote: _Igor_
      and Serdyukov is still at large? and there are no complaints against him?

      Yes, there are precisely no complaints, although he didn’t even work to shoot, but that they would strangle him in a garbage pit.
      Quote: _Igor_
      Let's ask him for GDP. Communication with the people is planned.

      If this question comes up, the answer will be - The investigation is ongoing, there are no complaints against Serdyukov, his reform was successful. Putin will not be able to say otherwise, he will just immediately remember everything that he said before. And there will be so many questions for him ... in short, he became a hostage to the Serdyukovsky case.
      Although I would ask him a question: When will Russia finally be equal before the law? I do not want to ask others a question, the answers will be the same as before.
      1. not good
        not good April 23 2013 08: 33 New
        +1
        The success of the "reforms" in our government, to the great misfortune of our Motherland, is assessed by the number of stolen goods, and not by the professionalism and deeds of the executors.
  4. Hikar
    Hikar April 23 2013 06: 22 New
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    Kapeets Taburetkin piss
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 April 23 2013 09: 30 New
      +2
      Mother dear !! I didn't even have enough imagination to come up with such a "method" of warfare.
      1946 year. Zhukov (Rokosovsky, Konev ...) has a phone call and a voice with the Bavarian dialect promises "Ershissen the whole family." Is it okay?
  5. Horn
    Horn April 23 2013 06: 33 New
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    It is necessary to organize a kind of ddos ​​attack on Putin's phone with one question: "When will the criminal Serdyukov be jailed?"
    1. cyclist
      cyclist April 23 2013 07: 53 New
      +4
      Volodya has already said his famous phrase "we are not 37 years old." Hence the conclusion suggests itself - betrayal in Russia occurs along the entire vertical of power.
      1. not good
        not good April 23 2013 08: 46 New
        +1
        GDP does not see danger from the gang of its friends. Yes, it’s not the 37th year, but if you turn a blind eye to everything, presumptuous friends will continue to lower the president’s rating and the task of keeping GDP in power can be disrupted for another term. but it’s time to put in the framework of the law, especially their own.
        1. folds
          folds April 23 2013 11: 57 New
          0
          not the 37th, that means, despite numerous threats to the country, no one will fight with those who plunder and destroy it ..
  6. SPBOBL
    SPBOBL April 23 2013 06: 38 New
    0
    Looking at the actions of GDP, we can assume that this tactic will be used in the opposite direction ...
  7. Owl
    Owl April 23 2013 06: 56 New
    +8
    What a "prime minister" is, so are his ministers. When one thief, traitor and robber is imprisoned (even in a VIP prison, but for 10-15 years), and his immediate boss, "plush cosmopolitan democrat" Dima, will be sent to his overseas friends for life.
    1. eagle11
      eagle11 April 23 2013 07: 24 New
      0
      They won't jail, we live in Russia. Moreover, Serdyukov is already a "victim", poor fellow.
    2. magadanets
      magadanets April 23 2013 08: 52 New
      +2
      Owl
      What a "prime minister" is, so are his ministers. When one thief, traitor and robber is imprisoned ...

      The prime minister says that our ministers have firing positions. I am only "FOR", mind you, I was not the first to suggest ...))
    3. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 April 23 2013 09: 08 New
      0
      This is treason.
      Clan "bellies" work with a jigsaw in the forest.
      1. folds
        folds April 23 2013 11: 59 New
        +1
        and change surnames - puzikovs to "Lobzikovy-Zauralskie" laughing
  8. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT April 23 2013 07: 01 New
    +2
    Well, if he knows a lot, well, they would invite him to ski, well, they didn’t notice, what to do ... dead shame not yumut, but the rest of the riffraff in the zones! bully
  9. Goryachev
    Goryachev April 23 2013 07: 18 New
    -1
    BGG, Cheburashka, as always - blame the stool for everything. Well, cho, he reformed this swamp, made something decent and near-modern from the army, esteemed the respectable cabinet lamp workers from the feeder, refused to buy shovels in favor of waiting for new platforms, and the soldiers didn’t beat the cantica and didn’t paint the grass - well, how could it be don't blame it.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass April 23 2013 07: 28 New
      +1
      Given how much dough he was given, this could be done by an armless, headless disabled person
  10. krot
    krot April 23 2013 07: 20 New
    +6
    in my opinion Serdyukov is very much like a spy! everywhere in all directions entrusted to him, sabotage! For treason against his native land at Kolyma!
  11. NIK 163
    NIK 163 April 23 2013 07: 31 New
    +5
    It’s not enough that the thief is also a vengeful petty intriguer. It was a shame for the honored military generals, thank God all the same, justice was restored. There are not so many generals with such military experience, more and more sharkuns and careerists.
  12. fight
    fight April 23 2013 07: 41 New
    +1
    Serdyukov has firmly written himself in the history of Russia. Well, there have been such people. Then they will create a medal "Mazepa-Serdyukov"
    1. AndreyAB
      AndreyAB April 23 2013 09: 26 New
      0
      Yes, not Mazepa’s, but the medal of General Vlasov — that’s just right.
  13. Yarbay
    Yarbay April 23 2013 07: 41 New
    +6
    According to a Rosbalt source in the Ministry of Defense, after the shock units of the Russian troops were transferred to Beslan in August 2008, they faced a problem there, which **** did not attach much importance to. Certain persons of "Georgian nationality" began to approach the command staff, expressing dissatisfaction with the fact that the military had overloaded the transport infrastructure of Beslan, thereby hindering their business. They insisted that planes, armored personnel carriers and soldiers deliver as little as possible, offering to pay generously for such a service. Having received a refusal, the visitors turned to threats, and they could be put in their place only with a promise, either as a joke or seriously "to be shot according to the laws of wartime." They snapped back: "We all know you all by name and you will regret it." Later, representatives of the Ministry of Defense asked the locals who the unknown were, but they just threw up their hands. There was a version that the visitors were representatives of the Georgian special services, but they were gone. The generals forgot about the unpleasant incident, but, as it turned out, in vain. **** -it is either a lie, or just p and p e c !!
    There is a war with Georgia, and at this time, Georgians with unknown passport data who calmly meet with the generals are suitable for the warring generals, they are threatening and even snarling! There’s no military counterintelligence, the FSB is sleeping !! Only a miracle saves Russia!
    In a word, STAR !!
    1. Professor
      Professor April 23 2013 07: 50 New
      -1
      As a source told Rosbalt

      Rosbalt believe, do not respect yourself.
    2. Curculum
      Curculum April 23 2013 07: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Yarbay
      is it or a lie

      Greetings!
      You are a military man and you should understand: you never know clowns on Rosbalt ...
      1. alexander61rus
        alexander61rus April 23 2013 08: 45 New
        0
        The fact is that the generals were dismissed and fired - and it is a personal matter to believe or not to believe Rosbalt after that.
        1. yanus
          yanus April 23 2013 10: 26 New
          +2
          The fact is that the generals have no housing problems. Participation in hostilities does not justify theft.
          And they took them back for a very simple reason - they dug so much shit on them that they will now be "tame" at Shoigu. Just a little, and on the zone.
          About their "professional" qualities, I generally keep quiet. One in the column is ambushed, the second personally (!) Sits at the wheel. Do they have trained subordinates? Do they not vkur that they should be in command?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 23 2013 10: 32 New
            0
            Quote: yanus
            About their "professional" qualities, I generally keep quiet. One in the column is ambushed, the second personally (!) Sits at the wheel. Do they have trained subordinates? Do they not vkur that they should be in command?

            here I agree !!
          2. Polesye_wolf
            Polesye_wolf April 23 2013 16: 11 New
            0
            Quote: yanus

            About their "professional" qualities, I generally keep quiet. One in the column is ambushed, the second personally (!) Sits at the wheel. Do they have trained subordinates? Do they not vkur that they should be in command?


            It’s better to be silent than to wrangle in vain.

            You are probably very well aware of the situation that was then in the leadership of Russia in general and in the army in particular? And if not, then why judge these generals?

            They made decisions, recognizing that after they can be fired, or even planted. And it is precisely these decisions, in conjunction with the others, that led to the result of the war that we have. Already for this these people should at least be respected.

            As for the fact that "Do they not know that they should be in command?

            They knew better than you what they should have been doing in that situation. And the very fact that the generals had to lead the columns and sit at the controls of the plane does not speak of their "stupidity." And about the situation with personnel in the army in those days.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 23 2013 16: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Polesye_Wolf
              They knew better than you what they should have been doing in that situation. And the very fact that the generals had to lead the columns and sit at the controls of the plane does not speak of their "stupidity." And about the situation with personnel in the army in those days.

              And who is to blame ??
              It’s their own fault that they didn’t train, didn’t demand from their superiors, and they didn’t write a report from subordinates !!
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 23 2013 09: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Kurkul
        Greetings!
        You are a military man and you must understand: you never know clowns on Rosbalt.
        Hi!
        The question is that, as the reason for dismissal ** competent ** sources of the publication cite that there were anonymous letters and threats from Georgians !!
        After this, trust in everything that is written below is lost!
    3. matross
      matross April 23 2013 12: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Yarbay
      Some persons of "Georgian nationality" began to approach the command staff, expressing dissatisfaction

      Quote: Yarbay
      There is a war with Georgia, and at this time, Georgians fit the warring generals

      The command staff and generals are not synonyms. So mozhent and really it. Moreover, the war is about to begin - the confusion was definitely present
  14. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui April 23 2013 07: 43 New
    +5
    krot - he is not a spy, because for this specialization you need not weak brains and appropriate education and training ... he has neither the first, nor the second nor the third.
    He is an ordinary high-ranking thief in the "law" who only knows how to steal and crap and spread rot on all those who, in human terms, are simply better than him, but he is simply not capable of anything more and he does not need to flatter him that he is a SPY. It is not even worthy to be a spy, however, as well as all his mandate - a pot-bellied environment. Interestingly, but the fart in the "Magnitsky's list" is visible, or was there any sales to it? In the USSR, they were called squalor and worthlessness. negative
  15. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ April 23 2013 07: 48 New
    +7
    Interestingly, but all Serdyakov’s problems ... were removed from the Ministry of Defense, or who else remained?
    To judge them, Proserdyakov’s bl ..., together with Serdyukov, as an organized criminal group, who actually carried out a conspiracy against the Russian army and its generals by a military tribunal.
  16. Andrew 121
    Andrew 121 April 23 2013 08: 01 New
    +2
    Serdyukov, he is a businessman, director of the Ministry of Defense, who appointed him? ... the conclusion is simple traitors to his native country in the highest circles of power.
  17. Anphy
    Anphy April 23 2013 08: 07 New
    +7
    Shame on you! I look at a brothel in Russia no better than here in Ukraine. Everywhere in power there are only 3,14 doors that cover each other. democracy rules.
  18. Andrew 121
    Andrew 121 April 23 2013 08: 11 New
    0
    There is a film on YouTube about these events. As a decision to protect Ossetia was adopted without the leadership of Muscovy. The lost day of the war is called very informative.
  19. awg75
    awg75 April 23 2013 08: 11 New
    0
    why is tabouretkin not in prison yet?!?! how can this creature get away with what he and his associates have done in our homeland?
  20. Anphy
    Anphy April 23 2013 08: 19 New
    +5
    All this falls under the article Treason to the Motherland and is easily proved. If you wish. And in due time for this without snot and talk they smeared forehead with green paint, although it would be necessary to hang in the square. Now ... the impression is that most officials work abroad.
    1. Orik
      Orik April 23 2013 08: 46 New
      0
      Pu said ... not a 37 year old. negative
  21. dizelniy
    dizelniy April 23 2013 08: 42 New
    +1
    Here you need to add the commando of the deceased on a motorcycle. This fact makes me nervous and bitter laugh. It should be noted that the Hamers of his hands are doing.
  22. kind
    kind April 23 2013 08: 45 New
    +3
    Do you know where he got that last name from? The Turkish sultan during the time of Catherine II was served as mercenaries by deserters from the Old Believers of southern Russia, and so they were called - Serdyuki. In short, corruptible skins.
  23. Orik
    Orik April 23 2013 08: 45 New
    +1
    One word bestiality!
    1. AndreyAB
      AndreyAB April 23 2013 09: 24 New
      +2
      Forgive me, but at the expense of livestock people do not insult cows and other animals, and these are inhuman, vile traitors to their people and their behavior is not bestiality, but vileness and abomination, i.e. scoundrels and bastards.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson April 23 2013 12: 46 New
        0
        Quote: AndreyAB
        those. scoundrels and bastards.

        Totally agree with you! good
  24. Temer
    Temer April 23 2013 09: 05 New
    +4
    Cattle!!! Serdyukov and Co. have long been in Magadan !!!!!! am No words, some drooling and those swearing !!!
  25. AndreyAB
    AndreyAB April 23 2013 09: 20 New
    +2
    And for some reason, I see a completely different reason for the expulsion of competent generals of the Armed Forces of Russia, apparently the stool has already handed over to South Ossetia and most likely not free of charge, this explains its disappearance at the beginning of the database and the moment the decision was made, but honest and decent military personnel were found and fulfilled their debt, for which Taburetkin avenged them, is another betrayal of this villain, and yet it is necessary to cancel the maratorium as an exception and put the whole company on the wall due to particularly serious crimes of treason against the Motherland.
  26. Net
    Net April 23 2013 09: 45 New
    +1
    After the Georgian troops began shelling South Ossetia, generals, including Makarov and Khrulev, could not get through to Serdyukov. Allegedly at that moment he was hunting in Kazakhstan. As a result, it was decided, without the approval of the Minister of Defense, to begin the transfer of troops to Beslan.

    It was in relation to this citizen that it was necessary to apply "according to the law of wartime"
  27. igor36
    igor36 April 23 2013 09: 50 New
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    Quote: Alexander
    I always said that you need to hang Tauretkin on a fountain pole

    Tear Serdyukov shirt on his chest and shout: Do not outweigh everyone !!!
  28. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 23 2013 09: 54 New
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    Cool Minister of Defense - the war began, but he turned off the hunt and the mobile, so as not to frighten away the game ... And the bl..y battalion led the defense!
  29. pensioner
    pensioner April 23 2013 09: 55 New
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    He is also a Georgian spy. Well then, to the tribunal - and to the wall. Where does this come from? Well, I don’t understand how. After all, I went to a Soviet school. "Where does the Motherland begin" sang.
  30. sergius60
    sergius60 April 23 2013 10: 07 New
    +5
    If VVP was not going to "sort out" the entire Taburetkinskaya gop-company, not one sledak would even dare to look towards the "Minister of Defense". So there was a go-ahead. As for the comments "not the 37th year." That it is necessary to end the freaks - I agree. But REPEAT "broke the wood as always" - neher. Many were just, would be happy to quickly soak a couple of "tattered goats". And ends in water. Not 41 on the horizon. Let the "snoopers" dig carefully.
  31. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 23 2013 10: 10 New
    +2
    I don’t understand why this creature from the furniture store is still at large? In places not so remote, there is work for this stool.
  32. Lopatov
    Lopatov April 23 2013 10: 11 New
    0
    Will a person "famous" for his incompetence be appointed to lead the Academy of the General Staff? You can't trust him and the battalion. How many people did he put there? The same Vetchinov is entirely on his conscience.
  33. Naval
    Naval April 23 2013 10: 14 New
    +1
    It is not clear how such insignificants become ministers? Some kind of surrealism, a person in real life who has not risen above the position of the head of the furniture department, in such a state-vertical position takes such a post, brings a harem with him .... The mind is inconceivable .. A coward and a traitor, that's where such envy for military generals comes from. History repeats itself, Mozart and Solleri.
    1. sir
      sir April 23 2013 10: 36 New
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      and what does Mozart have to do with it? :(
  34. Naval
    Naval April 23 2013 10: 16 New
    +1
    Ready to throw off money for a quilted jacket and a prod for Taburetkin. I hope he gets to felling.
  35. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 23 2013 10: 28 New
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    Me from one look on his face shakes with disgust !!!!!

    Here, even the stupid understand that scum! And also in the ministers, and even the defense !!!!!!!!!!

    Not everything is so colorful in Russia as it seems.

    One hope for Shoigu.
  36. SITH
    SITH April 23 2013 10: 56 New
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    weirdly read the article and the feeling that everything around is white and fluffy, only one Anatoly Eduardovich is right frankinshtein what, Freddy Krueger is straightforward. I just want to say the famous one. refers to a certain source. the current doesn’t say which one offers to believe the word that it exists but let either name it or it’s from the series one grandmother said such sources everyone can come up with a lope at least a thousand or two. then he writes about the anonymous letters and creates the impression that they Eduarditch himself drew a special report so that the army could be torn apart, and for those who were dismissed, let’s remember the loss of one Tu-22, which genius sent him there? A number of Su-25 who sent them there with an unpressed air defense system? Who should be responsible for this? remember what happened to the headquarters column in which the pistols were removed (where was the military guard?) who can remember the thread so that it can be transferred to Iraq did he shoot from a pistol? it is obvious that everything that happened in that conflict was analyzed a hundred times, including the actions of the command and the conclusions were not 5+ on the command, but what has changed now?
  37. shark
    shark April 23 2013 10: 59 New
    +1
    How is it in our opinion. To allow dullness and dullness to arrange trials on our own military commanders. And how is it in our case, in case of danger, to bow to them asking once again to save Russia. And that characteristically no one has refused, citing an insult. It’s time to change this feature of the bureaucratic mentality. It’s all very simple. It’s enough to accuse Serdyukov of betraying the Motherland. I think this was enough for the insulted generals. Yes, and we too.
  38. dc120mm
    dc120mm April 23 2013 11: 05 New
    -4
    Quote: shark
    And the General Staff Academy will be headed by the ex-commander of the 58th Army Anatoly Khrulev.

    Eto he yes that in the ass - they wounded :)
    1. Armata
      Armata April 23 2013 11: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: dc120mm
      Eto he yes that in the ass - they wounded :)
      And what do you care about our internal problems? Or that it is stuck that the people who gave you a kick in 08 are now being put at the helm in the Moscow Region?
  39. Kerch
    Kerch April 23 2013 11: 24 New
    0
    go nuts, the defense minister was on the hunt when, in fact, war was declared by international standards of the Russian Federation. Yes, then he still had to be dismissed (as they would have done in another country). But Medvedev, such a Medvedev ...
    1. psdf
      psdf April 23 2013 11: 50 New
      0
      In theory, a minister can be anywhere (hunting, a bathhouse, a swimming pool, a beach, a training ground) only always in touch and ready to make decisions, etc.
  40. duha
    duha April 23 2013 11: 44 New
    +2
    A unique situation was created when the military generals were left to their own devices and began to fight as they were taught, but they were taught well, without looking back at the top leadership with his moronic orders.
    They started to fight as much as they want and how they can. As a result, they dispersed as in the Berlin direction, so they barely stopped.
    There is an example from the history of Suvorov, who was left to his own business trip, had the opportunity to do so as he considered it necessary, and so he fought on the hunt. As a result, he had whom he wanted and how he wanted with the numerical superiority of the enemy. And there was radio communication at that time and a direct line with Petersburg, hell, he would have achieved what he had achieved. For the reason that stupid, directly opposite and even frankly treacherous orders would begin to arrive hourly, which he could not fulfill.
    In this sense, good communication and "order" in the top leadership are not always good for our Army.
  41. Syrdon
    Syrdon April 23 2013 12: 17 New
    +1
    damn, well, you can’t plant this hog, well, strangle it quietly. the bathroom fell or had a heart attack during an intimacy with Vasilyeva. Well, this bastard should not breathe with impunity together with us. !!
  42. Vasya-45
    Vasya-45 April 23 2013 12: 20 New
    0
    I wanted to shock everyone, but I read and understood the idea of ​​a shooting occurs to any normal person, not from blood thirst, but simply because it’s otherwise stupid
  43. ed65b
    ed65b April 23 2013 12: 31 New
    0
    Khrulev was wounded during the Georgian attack on the convoy. I then thought which general was moving in an unknown terrain on the armor. And as a result, an injury. Like Chapaev?
  44. I think so
    I think so April 23 2013 12: 42 New
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    It's ridiculous to read how everyone is now blaming Serdyukov ... But the decision to fire the military generals was made at the very top. I can assume that the war with Georgia was conceived by the Russian leadership together with the United States in such a way as to drag Russia into a PROLONGED war, similar to the Chechen one. But in the HAPPINESS of Russia, the generals did an excellent job with their job and gouged the Georgians in three days. This did not in any way enter into the plans of the Russian (and world) leadership, and it (the leadership) betrayed its soldiers by stopping the troops halfway to Tbilisi. It is all the same that having surrounded Berlin in 45 to conclude peace with Hitler ... After that, the Russian leadership began to take revenge on the victorious generals by dismissing everyone from service in shame ... Well, now, in order to finally cover up the traces of their conspiracy with the enemy, they "restore" generals and everything is blamed on the Minister of Defense ... He will certainly not be imprisoned and he will be silent for sure ... This is the kind of power in Russia now ... The poor Russian people ... little was exterminated in the war, spread rot by perestroika and democracy, stolen property is also held for fools ... I suspect that now a pack will pounce on my message and start minus, but I hope to find thinking people ...
  45. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 23 2013 13: 42 New
    0
    The right decision! Only in connection with the "misunderstandings", according to the assessment of the activities of the former minister Serdyukov from the side of the IC, it would be advisable to initiate the creation of a State Duma commission to investigate the consequences of Serdyukov's activities.
  46. deman73
    deman73 April 23 2013 13: 55 New
    0
    I just can’t understand one thing and that our authorities are so aloof with the ex-minister, they are there that everyone is in love with him and his harem
  47. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob April 23 2013 14: 06 New
    +1
    Poor Serdyukov, and then he was held :(
  48. Corsair
    Corsair April 23 2013 14: 55 New
    0
    According to the interlocutor of the agency, then Anatoly Serdyukov connected his deputy Tatiana Shevtsova to the work, who considered that the inspectors were not digging well enough. As a result, the legal department of the Ministry of Defense, which was then headed by a former employee of the Federal Tax Service and "favorite"Serdyukova Marina Balakireva.

    A source in the Ministry of Defense notes that the resignations were also affected by the internal conflict among "favorite"Serdyukova.

    It is unlikely that Serdyukov would have challenged his decision "favorites"However, according to the interlocutor of the agency, then Lirschaft fell into disgrace: allegedly because of the conflict around Vasilyeva.

    Favorites, concubines, intrigues .... no words, just a cool German series. Yes, for one immorality it was necessary to drive, but here also theft, destruction of the army, etc.Dieses phantastisch! ! !
    PSThe draft uniform for women soldiers from Anatoly Serdyukov belay
  49. family tree
    family tree April 23 2013 15: 36 New
    +2
    About ten of them were previously expelled from the military department, including with the institution of criminal cases. And the reason for the prosecution of the generals most often became anonymous,

    So, still the 37th? Or do Taburetkin and Putin have different calendars? And Taburetkin's "maiden" surname is not Yezhov for an hour? Genes, they are such a thing, are passed, damn it, by inheritance.