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"Three to One"

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The United States and NATO are perceived by many Western countries as an invincible military force on which to rely and which cannot be resisted.


The reason for such a successful modeling of the image of the “invincible rival”, according to the deputy director of the Institute of Political and Military Analysis, Alexander Khramchikhin, is in the United States conducting massive propaganda campaigns.

Meanwhile, they are evidence of a decrease in military power and are designed to compensate for military weakness.

The power of propaganda campaigns


"Three to One"


As Napoleon said, "in war, the moral factor relates to the physical, like 3: 1." Recently, it has begun to appear more clearly. Moreover, it sometimes manifests itself in a paradoxical and contradictory way.

The psychological breakdown of Europe came about as a result of a catastrophic massacre for all participants, with an absolutely senseless slaughter, known as the First World War.

This scrapping became apparent during the Second World War, when a large part of Europe was not only subjugated by Hitler, but fit into the occupation regime. The most vivid examples are France and the Czech Republic. And this war finally finished off the Europeans, knocking out any desire to fight.

Today, this process in Europe has come to a logical end. He was greatly strengthened by the extinction of the external threat in the face of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR, a sharp rise in living standards, growing into hedonism for a significant part of the population, a decline in fertility (respectively, a sharp rise in the value of each life), postmodern pacifism and politics of political correctness. Until now, this process has affected the United States little, but lately, a similar tendency has begun to appear in them.

At the same time, the West represented by NATO proclaimed itself a defender of freedom and democracy throughout the world, which forces it to become a party to various conflicts outside the Euro-Atlantic region. And this happens under the pressure of public opinion, which requires intervention in conflicts in order to protect freedom and democracy.

However, this same public opinion is completely unprepared for the fact that their own armies would suffer any serious losses in these conflicts. This gives rise to a deep internal contradiction and reinforces double standards in the policies of Western countries, as the reduction of military capabilities increasingly limits the ability of real intervention in conflicts.

In addition, it is often completely incomprehensible the criteria on the basis of which intervention in an alien conflict occurs, because it is usually extremely difficult to establish who is right and who is guilty in a given conflict and whether at least one of the parties is a carrier of freedom and democracy.
The massive propaganda campaigns that the West regularly launches against the regimes that at the moment he considered “wrong” are largely explained, just by a decrease in military power.

The propaganda campaign is designed to compensate for military weakness by suppressing the will of the enemy to resist and convincing his own population that he may have to suffer at least some losses.

If even one of these goals is not achieved, the war will almost certainly not be launched. Unfortunately, the global lack of understanding of these tendencies in the development of the Western Armed Forces often produces a "fascinating" psychological effect, NATO is still perceived as an invincible military force on which to rely and which cannot be resisted.

In addition, the general professionalism of the Armed Forces, i.e. the transition of the majority of the world's armies to the hired principle of manning, which sharply lowered their psychological stability. Iraq’s occupation of Kuwait on 2 in August 1990 demonstrated the complete failure of the “professional armies” of the Persian Gulf monarchies.

The Kuwaiti armed forces were by no means negligible, but they offered little resistance to the Iraqi invasion. Not only all the equipment of the ground forces, but also half of the combat aircraft of the Air Force and 6 of 8 missile boats of the Kuwait Navy were captured by Iraqis in a fully combat-ready state.

Of the 16, thousands of people who formed the personnel of the Kuwaiti armed forces killed no more than 200 and were captured before 600, the rest (95%) fled. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, which had very strong forces, did not even try to help Kuwait, although they were obliged to do so.

As shown by the defeat of Kuwait, and then the only attack of Iraqi troops on the Saudi city of Ras Khafji during Storm in the Desert (January 24 1991), the Saudi forces would have disintegrated in the same way as the Kuwaiti forces.

In this case, the United States and its allies simply would have no place to deploy the grouping, and conducting a naval and airborne assault operation would be a task, at least an order of magnitude more complicated and threatening with very high losses. Hussein could correct this mistake for about a month after the occupation of Kuwait, when the deployment of the Western grouping in Saudi Arabia had just begun. It was already clear that the grouping was being developed not for intimidation (if only because it was too expensive), but for war.

The massive attack of the Iraqi Armed Forces at that time would have been extremely difficult to repel. However, there was a psychological factor in the reappraisal of the enemy’s military capabilities, a lack of understanding that the enemy could be faced with the necessity of paying an exorbitant price for it. Without in any way preventing the full-fledged deployment of the grouping of the US armed forces and their allies, Hussein naturally doomed himself to defeat.
It should be noted that at the time of the start of the air campaign, the advantage of the US Air Force and its allies over the Iraqi Air Force (both quantitative and qualitative) was much less than the superiority of the Air Force and aviation US Navy over North Vietnam Air Force. Nevertheless, if the Americans managed to achieve complete air supremacy over Iraq on the first day of the war, this did not work over North Vietnam for all 4 years (1965-68 and 1972) of the air campaign.

This cannot be explained only by an advantage in technique and tactics; there is also a fundamental psychological difference between the military personnel of Iraq and Vietnam. The air defense potential of Iraq was very high, even in conditions of complete chaos and disorganization, they managed to shoot down at least 39 (possibly to 50) of the enemy aircraft. However, the absolute passivity of the command, abandoning the use of ground forces and the air force, could lead to nothing but defeat.

It was the psychological inconsistency of the military-political leadership of Iraq that enabled the United States to work out the use of the new weapons in conditions close to polygon. As a result, the United States, firstly, gained the most valuable combat experience, and secondly, created an image of its absolute invincibility.

This was greatly facilitated by the fact that the American leadership made adequate conclusions from its defeat in the information war with North Vietnam. In the case of Iraq, the information support of the operation turned out to be at the highest level.
The opposite example was the Russian army in the post-Soviet period. She demonstrated exceptionally high viability, confirming her reputation as one of the best in the world (although almost no one understood this).

Even during the lost first Chechen war, the practically non-existent Russian Armed Forces had a very real chance to win the war in just six months, only the inadequate reaction of the country's political leadership to the seizure of the hospital in Budennovsk by the militants and the information war of the Russian media against their own army prevented this.

The second Chechen war was quickly won, although in material and technical terms the state of the Armed Forces between the two wars only worsened even more. Given the very high fighting qualities of the Chechen militants, their excellent material equipment, natural and climatic conditions that are very convenient for them, and the moral and psychological state of Russian society that is extremely unfavorable for waging war, this victory can be considered an outstanding success of the Russian army.



The instant defeat of Georgia in the course of the classic August 2008 war was no less successful. The Russian Armed Forces grouping had no numerical superiority over the Georgian armed forces, and the technical equipment of the latter was in part even better than that of the Russian troops.

Of course, the Russian Armed Forces as a whole could not lose to the Georgian Armed Forces, however, in the August 2008 war, the Russian side demonstrated not a slow suppression by the masses with large own losses, namely, the instant defeat of the enemy with formal equality of forces. The main role in this victory was played by the psychological superiority of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which confirmed that the traditions are still alive.



In the same war, once again the inconsistency of the idea of ​​a “professional army” was demonstrated, which in principle is not capable of waging a heavy contact defensive war. Before 2004, the Georgian armed forces were, in fact, a “legitimate gang formation”, for which reason they initially lost the wars to the 90's much more cohesive and, moreover, were supported by Russia of a similar type to Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

In 2004-2008 An attempt was made to radically modernize the Armed Forces by purchasing a significant amount of Soviet equipment in Ukraine and Eastern Europe, which was modernized with the help of the United States and Israel. Elements of the network-centric war were also borrowed from the USA. With the formal preservation of the draft principle of recruitment, all combat mechanized brigades were formed only by hire.

Nevertheless, the war with Russia in August 2008 ended with the instant and complete defeat of Georgia, and on the third day of the war its Armed Forces, in fact, collapsed, ceasing to put up any resistance. Thus, it was once again confirmed that a hired army is not capable of protecting its own country from external invasion.

An attempt to build a network-centric army on the basis of Soviet equipment and mediocre-trained personnel was obviously untenable.

It was Russia that demonstrated that the country that is not afraid of NATO easily wins it. And three times in less than 10 years. She, albeit from the second attempt, despite the complete rejection of this campaign by the West, returned control over Chechnya. In June, the 1999 50-thousandth NATO group meekly gave the opportunity to capture the main strategic object of Kosovo (Slatina airfield) to one battalion of Russian paratroopers (211 people) who did not have any heavy weapons.

In August, NATO's 2008, no less resignedly, gave Russia the opportunity to defeat its closest ally, Georgia, and to tear away its 20% territory from him. NATO not only did not give Georgia the slightest military and even political assistance during the war, but actually imposed sanctions against it after the war - a tough embargo on the supply of any weapon (even defensive) and the exclusion of the possibility of admitting its membership, since Georgia has not settled territorial problems (rhetoric in this case does not matter). Unfortunately, even in Russia itself, all this was not realized.

Breeding gangs in the country reinforces the impression of chaos and allows the West to present the events in Syria as a “civil war”

Perhaps the first country where awareness still happened, became Syria. Its leadership behaves in the same way as the Russian during the Chechen wars (especially the second): it completely ignores the opinion of the West and is not afraid of its pressure. Moreover, the Syrians frankly demonstrated their strength, knocking 2012 in Turkish RF-4 in June with impunity.

Perhaps there were adequate people in Damascus who were able to look at NATO realistically, adequately evaluate the misery of his Libyan campaign, which the “aggressive imperialist bloc” almost lost, although the enemy did not resist at all. And so far, the calculation is absolutely correct. The only real reason for Western "non-resistance to evil by violence" is the power of the Syrian army, which remains loyal to Assad.

Therefore, no one is going to fight against it. The "reinforced concrete" position of Russia in the UN Security Council has become a true "gift of fate" for the West. Both the West, and Turkey, and the Arab monarchies vehemently demand that Russia change this position. However, in their hearts they pray that Moscow will continue to be just as “reinforced concrete”. Because it allows you to drench it with dirt, while continuing to do nothing, and on a "legal basis".

The fact that in Yugoslavia in 1999 or in Iraq in 2003 the position of the UN Security Council did not interest anyone, now in Washington, Ankara, Doha, Riyadh and Brussels prefer not to remember. If the Syrian regime can resist, it will be a fundamental change in the entire geopolitical situation and will mean the complete loss of real influence by the West. The paradox is that this, too, can be understood by no one.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 22 2013 07: 16 New
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    This was greatly facilitated by the fact that the American leadership made adequate conclusions from its defeat in the information war with North Vietnam. In the case of Iraq, the information support of the operation turned out to be at the highest level.

    What we lack is a timely understanding that the world is changeable, or rather where and how it has changed at this particular moment. And in order to understand this better, this process must be controlled, and the "mass media" in this regard are becoming a weapon, no less important than the Strategic Missile Forces. This war has been going on for a long time, but over the past decades, after the collapse of the USSR, Russia has been very passive in this area, and as a result, we see what has become of the country and the world as a whole, it is time to move on to active actions. Our country and people have something to defend, and that means they have something to say in defense of this.
    1. UFO
      UFO April 22 2013 07: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: svp67
      In this regard, "mass media" are becoming a weapon, no less important than the Strategic Missile Forces

      For some reason, in this field we always, if we don’t lose then, pay little attention to it.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo April 22 2013 07: 38 New
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        Quote: UFO
        Quote: svp67
        In this regard, "mass media" are becoming a weapon, no less important than the Strategic Missile Forces

        For some reason, in this field we always, if we don’t lose then, pay little attention to it.



        Is it not because those same media dug in those who are usually called players of an alien team, scoring goals against our goal and pretending to be their own on the board?
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW April 22 2013 16: 08 New
          +2
          I kind of, by not knowing how and not knowing, got into someone else's comment, please excuse me, I will no longer !!!
        2. wostok
          wostok April 22 2013 21: 52 New
          +1
          Of course. If you dig a little deeper, then most of our TV channels have foreign owners. belay
      2. Aleks28
        Aleks28 April 22 2013 07: 39 New
        +9
        Quote: UFO

        For some reason, in this field we always, if we don’t lose then, pay little attention to it.

        Why always? In 2008, just a good example of not only military, but also information victory.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 22 2013 07: 48 New
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        Quote: UFO
        For some reason, in this field we always, if we don’t lose then, pay little attention to it.

        Look at the topic with comments on terrorist attacks in the USA, recently, not only a lot has been done by the Western media, but a lot, but the result was the opposite. People stopped believing CNN and other channels hanging noodles on their ears, so all the rumors about losing are greatly exaggerated.
        1. UFO
          UFO April 22 2013 07: 59 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          , from the side of the Western media, not only a lot has been done recently, but a lot, but the result was the opposite. people stopped believing CNN

          There is a field of activity - the Internet, there are entire divisions for cyber warfare in the States, China, Israel, European countries, and when the Ministry of Defense announced the creation of a "group for monitoring the situation on the Internet" - a month ago! We are lagging behind in the "war for the minds". winked
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 22 2013 08: 48 New
            10
            Quote: UFO
            There is a field of activity - the Internet, there are entire units for cyber war in the States, China, Israel, European countries,

            And what, well, is there any sense in them when people try to suggest to people that a cut-off scumbag is a fighter for democracy.
            Quote: UFO
            We are lagging behind in the "war for the minds".

            We win dear, we win!
            1. Kaa
              Kaa April 22 2013 10: 38 New
              +6
              Quote: UFO
              There is a field of activity - the Internet, there are entire units for cyber war

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And what, well, is there any sense in them when people try to suggest to people that a cut-off scumbag is a fighter for democracy.

              " The 2013 cybersecurity is the same as the space program of the 1950s and 60s. US, China and Russia are aggressively racing to develop cyber weapons capable of destroying infrastructure. Three countries have already created huge arsenals of high-tech computer viruses, trojans, worms and the like, and all these tools are aimed at causing serious damage through computer exposure, said Scott Borg, chief executive officer of the NBC television channel. a non-profit organization for the study of cyber consequences (US Cyber ​​Consequences Unit), which is engaged in the development of US policy in the field of cybersecurity. Iran, according to Borg, also poses a threat in this area. The country is in the process of creating its own “cyber army,” the expert said.... This information came just as the US learned that a professional Chinese military unit was behind the hacker attacks on 141 targets around the world, including two in America. The White House said the presidential office is due to issue a statement on Wednesday. The Associated Press reports that the statement will detail sanctions and trade measures against China and other countries found guilty of cyber espionage, according to The Associated Press. http://www.inosmi.ru/usa/20130221/206162855.html#ixzz2RAfx2Ufw "The Washington Times"
              Each new instrument of aggression requires its own rules of warfare. And cyber warfare should not be an exception. In the absence of ethical standards governing conflicts in the digital world, countries will eventually be able to destroy freshwater supplies, electrical networks, military defense systems, and each other's vital institutions. In addition, key values ​​such as privacy and intellectual property rights will forever be lost.. Currently, there are rules that govern the use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. There are laws that guarantee the preservation of life for civilians and prisoners of war. However, a Mandiant report suggests that the world may now be losing the battle to adopt new standards of behavior in cyberspace. Developing such rules will be quite difficult. First you need to define cyber weapons and cyber attacks, which in itself can be a problem. And even if we manage to cope with these difficulties, how can we track down the initiators of cyberattacks? And given the speed of digital technology, the boundaries between attack and defense can be extremely blurred. Many states have good experience developing standards for the conduct of various types of wars. Until we receive new data on cyber attacks, the world must recognize the universal interest in creating a legal framework that will prevent future cyber warfare.
              : http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130224/206284774.html#ixzz2RAglwDEW "Christian Science Monitor"
              IT IS SUCH IMPRESSION THAT THE USA GOT AN ASSYMMETRIC RESPONSE IN THIS FIELD AND NOW WANTS TO "CONTRACT". And what about the name of the person? FIRST LET THEIR HUNDREDS FROM THE NCO REMOVE AND STOP PAKOSTIT!
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 April 22 2013 22: 49 New
                +7
                State speed! Here I read this nonsense and laugh. No, I understand - programmers and metalworkers love passion as they like new toys, while processing their bosses without disdaining any tricks, even the most dumb ones (keep in mind, Pal Palych, Semyon Sergeyich ALREADY DELIVERED such a thing !!) but how not to laugh ?!
                What the hell is cyberspace ?! Communication between computer modules of truly serious production in 99,9% is not needed. No need, understand! Already the 486 machine provided the ability to control the most complex technological processes that exist on Earth. Yes, the atomic explosion on it was modeled very slowly. But already on the stump ...
                The military use of computer hardware is serious. But to connect it with a network, to unite it in general is idiocy! Yes, to explain why attach a communication module to it, through which you can get to it and break it, they came up with this stunningly stupid enticement - "network-centric war". Yes, they came up with it so that there was at least some chance to hack some of the weapons and controls and win without fighting! WHY, well, why broadcast data about all your powers on the air ?! People, you are crazy.
                All this poisonous smoke screen is based on only one thing. On the fact that millions of people have registered in contacts and tweets, stuffing there nonsense in accordance with a small mental development. And they perceive the hacking of the account as a terrifying attack by a superheat in the mysterious depths of cyberspace. Yes, someone spoiled the Iranian centrifuges. But it would be absolutely impossible if the bosses did not admire the beautiful diagrams of "real-time production". These moronic pictures are needed for production to work like a parachute for a hare, but they look so pretty! And you can also, admiring the pictures, beautiful, emphasizing the status (I was such a hell of a leader that I can stop the whole plant from my button. Why? But because it’s cool! I ordered and did it) but very boring, download Networks "a little bit of porn. With viral, yeah ...
                Whoever hasn’t played in one place with pimple coolness in 50 for years is the one who is reliably protected from the horrors of cyberattacks, and his production with military objects, too.
          2. Focker
            Focker April 22 2013 10: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: UFO
            There is a field of activity - the Internet, there are entire divisions for cyber warfare in the States, China, Israel, European countries, and when the Ministry of Defense announced the creation of a "group for monitoring the situation on the Internet" - a month ago! We are lagging behind in the "war for the minds".

            As far as I know, the first cyber war in the world was organized by Russia (behind the scenes), when after moving the monument to Soviet soldiers in Tallinn in 2007, the websites of state institutions, banks, etc. Estonian organizations subjected to massive cyber attacks!
          3. yustas
            yustas April 22 2013 11: 50 New
            0
            Quote: UFO
            "groups for monitoring the situation on the Internet" - a month ago!

            announced the creation, meaning that they finally allocated in a separate group, and not that we did not have it ...
          4. aksakal
            aksakal April 22 2013 20: 04 New
            +4
            Quote: UFO
            Lagging behind in the "war for the minds"

            - lagging behind, but if you already went, then quite successfully -))). The gaining weight and popularity of the news agency RT (RUSSIA TUDEY) is an example of this. Long, very long harness. You can’t do this, there is a risk of not catching up.
        2. Kaa
          Kaa April 22 2013 10: 26 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          People stopped believing CNN and other channels hanging noodles on their ears, so all the rumors about losing are greatly exaggerated

          Nobody says that Americans are without brains, they just have a style of thinking that is extremely tailored to solving urgent problems: to pay for housing on a loan, change a car for a new one on time, send children to a decent college. While the government provides them with protection and a high material level - all the news for them is like for us to listen to chanson on the way to work, but when there is a failure after failure - finances, terrorists, the lack of success of the army "on distant frontiers" - that's when they and begin to seriously engage in news analysis and CNN's gum is already losing its effectiveness.
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak April 22 2013 12: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: Kaa
            Nobody says that Americans are without brains, they just have a style of thinking that is extremely covert to the solution of pressing problems:

            You are talking about the mass category of consumers who are essentially not interested in wars. But there is also a group of "war elephants" ready to trample anyone who resists. In addition to the "elephants" there, as elsewhere, there is a group of far-sighted analysts like Brzezinski. So they should be feared. They, being near the authorities, provoke all wars in the world. I think so
          2. aksakal
            aksakal April 22 2013 20: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Kaa
            they just have a style of thinking that is extremely tailored to solve urgent problems: to pay for housing on a loan, change the car to a new one on time, and identify children in a decent college.
            - Well, this is not only in America. It's you and me too laughing This site is the only outlet where you can "hang out in the clouds".

            For us, fathers with many children, or simply “fathers,” this is a scanty and well-deserved encouragement for the conscious rejection of the sweet pleasures abundantly exuded by the outside world. Never cross us intergalactic spaces in search of intelligent life, never dissolve our consciousness in the ecstatic abyss of “Issihio,” even from the heart on “Independence Day, hell knows from whom or from what” and not play Russian roulette with friends. We (fathers, from 3 individuals and more) are tightly chained by the current reality to the galvanized wall of rationality. Our logic is gloomy and majestic. She suggests the following: children are no different from adults, only they are weaker, dumber and ruthless. Based on this, it makes sense to adhere to a certain set of rules. - this is written by your actor Okhlobystin, a creative person, deeply creative, and loving to "hang in the clouds", but often forced to descend to the sinful earth, or even not take off from it for months. He wrote beautifully, and you took and attributed all this to amers laughing You are wrong, wrong
        3. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg April 22 2013 13: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Look at the topic with comments on terrorist attacks in the USA, recently, not only a lot has been done by the Western media, but a lot, but the result was the opposite. People stopped believing CNN and other channels hanging noodles on their ears, so all the rumors about losing are greatly exaggerated.

          I think here the RT channel played its role firstly, secondly, when CNN is constantly lying, anyone will think about it, laughing laughing and whether his television, the projector of public policy, is cheating.

          hi
      4. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 22 2013 16: 03 New
        +3
        "Our" mass media are not ours for a long time, they are in the hands of the Jewish aligarchy, so there is nothing on the screens, they are trying to make people out of the people, Ivanov, who does not remember kinship, so that it would be easier to manipulate us, look who rules us - Mendels, Dvarkovichs, Chubais! Under the Soviets there was a 5th column and an unspoken ban on hiring in ...! I believe that all this must be returned to its place!
        " The 2013 cybersecurity is the same as the space program of the 1950s and 60s. US, China and Russia are aggressively racing to develop cyber weapons capable of destroying infrastructure. Three countries have already created huge arsenals of high-tech computer viruses, trojans, worms and the like, and all these tools are aimed at causing serious damage through computer exposure, said Scott Borg, chief executive officer of the NBC television channel. a non-profit organization for the study of cyber consequences (US Cyber ​​Consequences Unit), which is engaged in the development of US policy in the field of cybersecurity. Iran, according to Borg, also poses a threat in this area. The country is in the process of creating its own “cyber army,” the expert said.... This information came just as the US learned that a professional Chinese military unit was behind the hacker attacks on 141 targets around the world, including two in America. The White House said the presidential office is due to issue a statement on Wednesday. The Associated Press reports that the statement will detail sanctions and trade measures against China and other countries found guilty of cyber espionage, according to The Associated Press. http://www.inosmi.ru/usa/20130221/206162855.html#ixzz2RAfx2Ufw "The Washington Times"
        Each new instrument of aggression requires its own rules of warfare. And cyber warfare should not be an exception. In the absence of ethical standards governing conflicts in the digital world, countries will eventually be able to destroy freshwater supplies, electrical networks, military defense systems, and each other's vital institutions. In addition, key values ​​such as privacy and intellectual property rights will forever be lost.. Currently, there are rules that govern the use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. There are laws that guarantee the preservation of life for civilians and prisoners of war. However, a Mandiant report suggests that the world may now be losing the battle to adopt new standards of behavior in cyberspace. Developing such rules will be quite difficult. First you need to define cyber weapons and cyber attacks, which in itself can be a problem. And even if we manage to cope with these difficulties, how can we track down the initiators of cyberattacks? And given the speed of digital technology, the boundaries between attack and defense can be extremely blurred. Many states have good experience developing standards for the conduct of various types of wars. Until we receive new data on cyber attacks, the world must recognize the universal interest in creating a legal framework that will prevent future cyber warfare.
        : http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130224/206284774.html#ixzz2RAglwDEW "Christian Science Monitor"
        IT IS SUCH IMPRESSION THAT THE USA GOT AN ASSYMMETRIC RESPONSE IN THIS FIELD AND NOW WANTS TO "CONTRACT". And what about the name of the person? FIRST LET THEIR HUNDREDS FROM THE NCO WILL RECALL AND STOP PASTING! [/ Quote]
      5. Check
        Check April 22 2013 17: 23 New
        +2
        The RT Internet channel gradually smooths the situation
    2. vadson
      vadson April 22 2013 09: 59 New
      +9
      happy with the presence of the RT channel, at least it somehow begins to open the eyes of the western layman to the world. they’ve had a century since they’ve been closed by informational shit
    3. rolik
      rolik April 22 2013 12: 53 New
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      must be managed, and the "media" in

      That's it, manage the media. And for this it is necessary that the media head, people devoted to their homeland and living its problems. And now some lovers of fried and dough are sitting there. No, money is good, of course, but conscience does not need to be replaced. Remember how in the nineties slopped our army, I remember everything. And the military remembers this very well, which is why their attitude to the zhurnalugs is corresponding. Our preah sharks, in the difficult years for our army, needed to support it, and not frolic in pursuit of those who would humiliate it more. then the youth in the army would go to serve not from under a stick, but with pride. Well, what can I say, everyone perfectly remembers what years were under the reign of EBN and the company.
    4. washi
      washi April 22 2013 15: 57 New
      +3
      I agree, but HOW can we act ideologically if almost all the media belong to foreign countries. At school, education is customized for foreign programs and textbooks
      1. rolik
        rolik April 22 2013 16: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Vasya
        I agree, but HOW can we act ideologically,

        How to work. There are several types of exposure methods. Take the most humane one. Let even one party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. LDPR, United Russia (only large), call out rallies against the Minister of Education. Moreover, the more gorodolov will come out to protest the better. And with the media it is even simpler, using economic methods, but this is the will of the state. And you can push the state again by rallies. But these rallies should not be a one-time action. And it is precisely aimed at changing the leadership of the Ministry of Education, and media policy. Because there are many who want to stick to these actions, and shout their slogans to the main topic not related. That's just the meetings I do not see, in the Duma they just mess around and that's it. Moreover, the name Duma is always very jarring. Could be called differently.
        1. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka April 22 2013 22: 07 New
          0
          Quote: rolik
          I am. Moreover, the more gorodolov will protest

          Only a few will come out, the rest will prefer to watch the rally on TV. And this is at best. Otherwise, they will wipe away their tears along with "The rich who also cry." Your good intentions are understandable, but reality speaks volumes.
          1. rolik
            rolik April 23 2013 00: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Tverichanka
            Your good intentions are understandable, but the reality speaks differently.

            If it concerns my son, I will go out. I can’t say anything about your attitude to your children.
  2. Genera
    Genera April 22 2013 07: 27 New
    +4
    Yes, NATO ran out of steam in Libya. And in Syria, they threw a fishing rod, they caught a fish, but they can’t pull it out, the gear will be torn. So the fisherman is sitting, waiting for someone to come with a net. Situation yes?
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 April 22 2013 14: 31 New
      +3
      And here behind the fish inspector with a Marine chevron politely so on the shoulder - "Why tyrannize the beast? And on the snout?" And here comes the idea that chess is better than fishing.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 22 2013 16: 17 New
        +1
        How nice that our people with humor ...!
      2. Genera
        Genera April 22 2013 18: 27 New
        +1
        And here behind the fish inspector with a Marine chevron politely so on the shoulder - "Why tyrannize the beast? And on the snout?" And here comes the idea that chess is better than fishing.
        I could not even imagine about such a development of events. good
        1. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 April 22 2013 19: 53 New
          +1
          Yeah ... and in the ending the fish (gold estessno) fulfills three wishes to the savior
          - base of the Navy
          - air force base
          - station AWACS
          A fairy tale! (yes there is a hint in it ...)
  3. Hudo
    Hudo April 22 2013 07: 35 New
    +6
    If the Syrian regime can resist, this will be a fundamental turning point in the entire geopolitical situation and will mean the complete loss of real influence by the West.


    Simply put, it will become apparent that the king is naked.

    Z.Y. I can not wish Assad and the Syrian people steadfastness in the struggle and victory !!!
  4. mojohed
    mojohed April 22 2013 07: 53 New
    +3
    Those who are disappointed in the homeland and qualities of Russians have long emigrated from Russia to the West or to other places where they already realized that there they are not needed by anyone and, on occasion, will be left without a state. protection of the foreign state that has accepted them. Those who, due to lack of money and some other faith in their homeland, still live in Russia, I think they will defend the country, because stereotypes have already formed that we cannot find help and salvation in the West and abroad. A Russian abroad, whether 100 times a Chechen, a Buryat, a Russian or a Tatar, etc., will still be involved in the mafia, stereotypes of rudeness, lack of principles, cruelty and intolerance.
    Conflicts are inevitable in the future and, one way or another, Russia will take part in them.
    The way we prepare for them will become the starting point for the glory or tragedy of Russian weapons and the unity of the country. The whole south looks only at the strength of the state, because believes only in power.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 22 2013 10: 18 New
      +9
      Quote: mojohed
      Those who are disappointed in the homeland and qualities of Russians have long emigrated from Russia to the West or elsewhere.

      Well, you got excited
    2. Focker
      Focker April 22 2013 10: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: mojohed
      Those who are disappointed in the homeland and qualities of Russians have long emigrated from Russia to the West or elsewhere.

      This is not entirely true in my opinion. For the sake of interest, I rummage through various Q&A services (These are questions and answers sites. There is a specific person and anyone can ask him anonymously. That would not advertise, I will not name the address), so basically there is young growth and I often ask a question about which country they would like to live in the future, why and so on and so forth. Very rarely I meet patriotic people there!
      Of course this should not be taken seriously, but still ..
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka April 22 2013 22: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Focker
        Of course, you should not take this seriously

        On the contrary, this must be taken with absolute seriousness. This trend exists and cannot but worry. After 15-20 years, it is these young people who will have the country in their hands and it does not matter what they are going to do with it.
      2. xan
        xan April 22 2013 22: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Focker
        so basically young animals there and I often ask a question about which country they would like to live in the future, why and so on and so forth. Very rarely I meet patriotic people there!

        I forgot how cool it is, but still recall
        who at 20 was not a revolutionary, he has no heart
        who in 40 remained a revolutionary and did not become a conservative - he has no brains
        the basis of the stability of society - citizens 40-50 years old
    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 22 2013 16: 25 New
      +1
      In short, Putin, if you are a patriot, drive the liquidationists out of power, who you know perfectly well, focus only on Russians, no offense, we are stronger and forward to the prosperity of all the peoples of our country !!!
    4. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 22 2013 22: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: mojohed
      He’s back home, he lives in Russia,

      Well, you have muddied .... No words ... Why do you think that I did not leave because of lack of money, and even more so because of "some other faith in the Motherland"? And it did not occur to you that I just love her, without any conditions? ... That's the whole understanding of patriotism such as YOU, either money, or from hopelessness ...
      1. xan
        xan April 22 2013 22: 31 New
        0
        Tverichanka
        plus 100500
  5. pensioner
    pensioner April 22 2013 08: 12 New
    +9
    A friend of mine (Ph.D., lawyer, international law, etc.) expressed an interesting idea for me. He said that analyzing the actions of many significant countries in the international arena, he came to the conclusion that their activity in this field was significantly reduced. Such an impression, they say that they are waiting for something. THOSE. they no longer rush ahead of each other to support the United States in everything, but somehow they do not immediately support, not strongly or generally remain silent. The world (surrounding 20ku) seemed to freeze in anticipation of change and is afraid to harm its future. Many people see that a strong US counterweight is being formed and it is possible that it will be more profitable not to be friends with the US, but with China and Russia, which will lead this counterweight. He gave examples. If anyone can comment on this assumption I will be grateful. Itself is very far from international affairs. Maybe Kaa?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 22 2013 08: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: retired
      they no longer rush ahead of each other to support the United States in everything, but somehow they do not immediately support, not strongly or generally remain silent.

      Many European countries acted as the "dear US" dictated, and as a result found themselves in a deep crisis. So they slowed down. Moreover, the desire of the United States to fight with someone else's hands is just screaming. But Europe would also like to fight with someone else's hands, but where can we get them? Isn't it time to back out? The more power Russia and China gain, the sooner the EU will deflate and offer "friendship forever." IMHO, of course.
    2. mogus
      mogus April 22 2013 10: 24 New
      +4
      I offer the following analysis:

      http://www.peremeny.ru/books/osminog/7536#more-7536

      What is lacking in basic
      geopolitical players on
      our planet? let's
      let's ask this question.
      It’s interesting to evaluate
      alignment in such an important matter. Number one, definitely
      Americans So:
      1. Population to create
      independent
      technological zone
      quite enough. And when you consider
      still Canada and possibly Mexico then generally with
      in excess.
      2. Raw materials provided.
      Especially in connection with
      de-preservation
      national hydrocarbon reserves and growing
      shale gas production.
      3. Money chickens do not peck.
      4. Gold (future action
      cost), at some
      data is extremely insufficient.
      5. Opportunities to invent
      breakthrough technology
      as much as you like.
      6. National idea (about
      American lifestyle advantage
      and the justification of expansion
      to all other countries and
      continents) powerful and
      self-sufficient. They lack markets.
      Because of this, it burst out
      current world
      economic crisis. Solve this problem
      IMPOSSIBLE. Expand zone
      influences to Americans
      nowhere else to go. The whole planet
      they have already mastered and save
      american dollar can only colonization
      neighboring populated
      sentient beings
      planets. Since such planets
      we have not yet discovered
      then Americans expect a drop in consumption
      60% (Khazin),
      hyperinflation, social
      chaos and as the only
      rescue tool
      fascization of the social structure (LaRouche). Number Two - Europeans 1. Population to Create
      independent
      technological
      there is enough zone.
      2. Raw materials are poorly provided.
      3. Money chickens do not peck. 4. Gold is available.
      5. Opportunities to invent
      there are breakthrough technologies.
      6. The national idea of
      that all people are equal before
      by law, but pederasts and necrophiles are more equal, powerful
      and self-sufficient. Lacking them like
      Americans, markets.
      Solve this problem
      IMPOSSIBLE.
      Awaiting Europeans
      50% drop in consumption (Khazin),
      hyperinflation, social
      chaos and as the only
      rescue tool
      fascization of social
      devices (LaRouche).
      1. mogus
        mogus April 22 2013 10: 36 New
        +1
        Number Two - Europeans 1. Population to Create
        independent
        technological
        there is enough zone.
        2. Raw materials are poorly provided.
        3. Money chickens do not peck. 4. Gold is available.
        5. Opportunities to invent
        there are breakthrough technologies.
        6. The national idea of
        that all people are equal before
        by law, but pederasts and necrophiles are more equal, powerful
        and self-sufficient. Lacking them like
        Americans, markets.
        Solve this problem
        IMPOSSIBLE.
        Awaiting Europeans
        50% drop in consumption (Khazin),
        hyperinflation, social
        chaos and as the only
        rescue tool
        fascization of social
        devices (LaRouche).
        1. mogus
          mogus April 22 2013 10: 39 New
          0
          Number Three - Chinese 1. Population to Create
          independent
          technological zone with
          in excess.
          2. There is money.
          3. Gold is a huge amount.
          4. The national idea of
          what China should rule
          powerful and
          self-sufficient.
          5. They lack raw materials, breakthrough technologies and
          sales markets. To solve this problem is DIFFICULT.
          But, we believe China is her
          will decide.
          Awaits the Chinese
          prosperity and power over
          most of the earth.
          1. mogus
            mogus April 22 2013 10: 43 New
            0
            Number Four - Japanese 1. Opportunities to Invent
            breakthrough technology
            as much as you like.
            2. The national idea of
            that the Japanese ... etc. etc.,
            powerful and self-sufficient. 3. They do not have enough population
            (to create an independent
            technological zone)
            gold, raw materials, territories and
            sales markets.
            Solving these problems is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. Expect Japan
            bloody war for
            resources and probable
            fascization of social
            device.
            1. mogus
              mogus April 22 2013 10: 59 New
              +3
              Number Five - Russia 1. Population to Create
              independent
              technological zone, with
              given the expansion
              Eurasian Union, may
              to be enough. 2. Money if stopped
              liberal
              activities of the Central Bank
              enough.
              3. Gold, at
              an appropriate exploration approach is enough.
              4. Opportunities to invent
              breakthrough technologies, with
              adequate
              patent law
              and VAT cancellations are available. 5. Sales markets, provided
              policy introduction
              import substitution,
              enough. Not enough for Russia
              NATIONAL IDEA and how
              reasonable consequence
              government structure.
              Solve this problem
              Russians .... ON THIS QUESTION LET
              EVERYONE WILL RESPOND TO YOURSELF!
    3. mogus
      mogus April 22 2013 10: 31 New
      0
      http://www.peremeny.ru/books/osminog/7536#more-7536

      What is lacking in basic
      geopolitical players on
      our planet? let's
      let's ask this question.
      It’s interesting to evaluate
      alignment in such an important matter. Number one, definitely
      Americans So:
      1. Population to create
      independent
      technological zone
      quite enough. And when you consider
      still Canada and possibly Mexico then generally with
      in excess.
      2. Raw materials provided.
      Especially in connection with
      de-preservation
      national hydrocarbon reserves and growing
      shale gas production.
      3. Money chickens do not peck.
      4. Gold (future action
      cost), at some
      data is extremely insufficient.
      5. Opportunities to invent
      breakthrough technology
      as much as you like.
      6. National idea (about
      American lifestyle advantage
      and the justification of expansion
      to all other countries and
      continents) powerful and
      self-sufficient. They lack markets.
      Because of this, it burst out
      current world
      economic crisis. Solve this problem
      IMPOSSIBLE. Expand zone
      influences to Americans
      nowhere else to go. The whole planet
      they have already mastered and save
      american dollar can only colonization
      neighboring populated
      sentient beings
      planets. Since such planets
      we have not yet discovered
      then Americans expect a drop in consumption
      60% (Khazin),
      hyperinflation, social
      chaos and as the only
      rescue tool
      fascization of the social structure (LaRouche).
    4. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 22 2013 16: 38 New
      +1
      It’s an interesting idea, but Vanga also said that RUSSIA would be ahead! And her forecasts were fulfilled by 80% !!!
      1. The cat
        The cat April 22 2013 18: 12 New
        0
        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        It’s an interesting idea, but Vanga also said that RUSSIA would be ahead! And her forecasts were fulfilled by 80% !!!

        Here and another her prediction came true.
    5. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 April 23 2013 03: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: retired
      that they are waiting for something. THOSE. they no longer rush ahead of each other to support the United States in everything, but somehow they do not immediately support, not strongly or generally remain silent. The world (surrounding 20k) seemed to freeze in anticipation of change and is afraid to harm its future

      I can express my assumption. Oddly enough, the world consists not only of superpowers and big even 20k and two-thirds of the third world countries which the current situation no longer suits. And no matter how 10-15 years later, the leading players did not have to be unpleasantly surprised that while they were busy among themselves for spheres of influence and sales markets they were pushed somewhere to the side and forgot to inform about it hi
  6. Strashila
    Strashila April 22 2013 08: 20 New
    +1
    Everyone condemned Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, but no one disputed his legitimacy ... Kuwait was the territory torn away from Iraq by British colonialists.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 22 2013 10: 34 New
      0
      the problem is not tearing away, but in seaports with which Iraq has huge problems
  7. Gavril
    Gavril April 22 2013 09: 22 New
    +1
    Interestingly, in the fourth photo, for example, we see ourselves on the armor, but how do other peoples perceive this photo? Do they see those guys as fearless, just and invincible Russian warriors or "barbarians, rapists and Mongols" as they have always painted us?
    According to the propaganda of the Armed Forces, the Americans should be given their due, they have surpassed everyone in this matter, and Hollywood contributed to this most of all.
  8. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 22 2013 09: 23 New
    10
    All the ideology of the United States, based on the fact that internally, for them there is always an image of a specific enemy. For the rest of the world, they pose one and the same threat - a threat to democracy and personal freedom.
    Personally, I am already jarred when from the lips of our politicians it sounds - "Our friends and partners in the West." What friends, what are the partners in business? What does this have to do with ensuring the country's independence and defense?
    1. andrejwz
      andrejwz April 22 2013 10: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: VadimSt
      Personally, I am already jarred when from the lips of our politicians it sounds - "Our friends and partners in the West."

      Like a joke. I don’t remember whose monologue.
      Some ideologists in the West claim that it is a hummingbird, but Soviet scientists managed to recognize wild ducks in them.
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 22 2013 22: 46 New
      0
      Quote: VadimSt
      "Our friends and partners

      Well, what are you, right word? Distinguish the language of diplomacy from everyday. What other countries use different wording? So say the Chinese, Europeans, and Indians ... SO ACCEPTED! Look at the affairs of WHO and WHAT does. Although the result is necessary say, it often becomes understandable over the years. Remember the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact! Didn’t we then call Hitler our friend for all time? And Stalin (clever, whom the world did not see) knew perfectly well that we would soon be at war with each other.
  9. darksoul
    darksoul April 22 2013 09: 26 New
    +2
    No less successful was the instant defeat of Georgia during the classical war in August 2008.


    Dressing NATO uniforms and picking up the M-16 does not mean becoming a warrior. It’s a good example to the West that it’s far from everywhere you can unceremoniously come with your democracy, it’s only a pity that with such examples we pay the blood of our guys
  10. vadson
    vadson April 22 2013 10: 13 New
    +1
    right now, for my cynicism I’ll catch the minuses, but try to disprove that in order to break NATO (in half through the knee) you need to involve this alliance in pieces of 5 good messes at the same time. with Syria, Iran, Korea, Africa, in Europe, turn on the green light for Muslims, do not let them out of Afghanistan, create an interesting thread in Latin America for example Venezuela and Cuba against Colombia (taking care of your citizens, destroying coca plantations as an excuse)
    burst all NATO in so many conflicts. usa too tear. they have a mess with the dough. with people, too - there is no one to fight there, drunks, drug addicts, criminality and buggers, there is no one to call on such conflicts.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 22 2013 16: 51 New
      0
      I agree to such a situation, our SVR would have taken up such a hack, so they would have howled!
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 22 2013 22: 52 New
      0
      Quote: vadson
      what interesting thread to build

      And what do you think, will those who will use their hands to "build interesting threads" agree with you? Cuba, Venezuela and the rest? Nobody wants to fight until an absolute inevitability arises. I'm talking about countries that do not have such tasks as democracy and human rights all over the world. So utopianism is pure water. No need to fantasize. And, by the way, I'm not giving you a minus.
  11. Canep
    Canep April 22 2013 10: 15 New
    10
    Russia five times already DESTROYED invincible armies (Sweden, Ottoman, France, Wehrmacht, Kwantung Army), and will do it again, when at last the neighbors honor history and realize that Russia is better to be in friends than in enemies.
  12. knn54
    knn54 April 22 2013 11: 02 New
    +5
    American generals and admirals in the continuation of the entire war in Europe and the Pacific were SURE to win only with 5-10 times superiority in the Air Force and at least 3-5 times in warships (sea battles) or tanks (Middle East and Europe). The standard tactic of American troops in the liberation of France is that aviation turns the front line of defense and operational communications of the Germans into rubble, then ground forces begin a cautious offensive until the next defensive section, and there history repeats itself. De Gaulle, then head of the Fighting France government, for all the curtsies he had to make to his powerful ally, nevertheless dared to protest the American command against this method of warfare, when, without a direct military necessity, French cities turned into heaps of ruins.
    PENSIONER: .. about a significant decrease in their activity in this field.
    A sharp increase in the standard of living, a drop in the birth rate (respectively, a sharp increase in the value of each life), led to the fact that the sensitivity of Western armies to their own losses reached a point where it becomes impossible to wage a serious war. Hence the decline in criteria and standards, the acceptance into the ranks of the armed forces of supporters of the superiority of the white race, the Nazis and gang members, including African-American and Latin American. They all look at military service as a training phase, giving them the opportunity to prepare well for their own wars. Increasing the age limit to 40 years (USA) has led to a decrease in physical requirements for recruits.
    The attempt to fight without losses due to overwhelming technical superiority became the reason for the exorbitant increase in the cost of weapons and equipment, and then of ammunition. This (even before the economic crisis) led to a sharp reduction in the number of equipment in the NATO armies, and after the crisis began there was no longer enough ammunition, which was fully manifested in Libya.
    As a result, PMCs, where real professionals are fighting, are becoming a good alternative to regular armed forces. Their services are very expensive, but still cheaper than the maintenance of regular armies, since private traders do not need expensive heavy weapons and high-precision ammunition, and governments are not responsible for the social security of the wounded and families of the dead PMC fighters. And PMCs do not bear political responsibility for losses and crimes, either. Official "aircraft will provide them with support in this case from the air and sea.
    It will take a lot of money, but still less than in case of war only on their own.
    PS Divide, play and conquer! It was this tactic that helped Byzantium to resist against such major opponents of that time as Persia, the Seljuk Turks, Arabs, Cumans and Tatar-Mongols. Therefore, around China, Russia, Iran ... a permanent zone of instability is being created. Fortunately, there are enough freaks to fight for "green candy wrappers".
    1. kaprall
      kaprall April 22 2013 15: 56 New
      +1
      "The standard tactics of American troops in the liberation of France is that the aviation turns the front line of defense and operational communications of the Germans into rubble, then the ground forces begin a cautious offensive until the next defensive section, and there history repeats itself."

      Well, and what’s wrong with that, just killing a German soldier, what would be the loss among the Americans? Normandy was enough for them at their most reluctant. Normal burning tactics.
      As for the reduction of requirements for recruits, it’s not true, the requirements are the same, there are coefficients for employees depending on age.
    2. xan
      xan April 22 2013 22: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      As a result, PMCs, where real professionals fight, become a good alternative to regular aircraft

      I want to remind simple, but many explanatory words of one chela
      "You can find as many people as you want who are ready to kill for money, but it is almost impossible to find people who are ready to die for money."
      Quote: knn54
      Their services are very expensive, but still cheaper than the maintenance of regular armies, since private traders do not need expensive heavy weapons and high-precision ammunition,

      here I think, for the loot you can only fight against the Papuans, against the serious opponents of the dough is no longer enough. They usually fight against the most serious ones without dough, that is, they don’t think about dough at all
  13. svskor80
    svskor80 April 22 2013 11: 32 New
    +2
    Americans and Europeans are not ready to die for the interests of financial movers in Libya, etc. But if you have to fight for your homeland, I think everything will be different and instead of professionals, conscripts will appear and fight not for life, but for death. If there is enough time to collect them, then the Georgians did not have enough.
  14. pensioner
    pensioner April 22 2013 11: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Canep
    Russia has DESTROYED invincible armies five times already (Sweden, Ottoman, France, Wehrmacht, Kwantung Army)

    The Turks are also put in place. Just now they began to restore something similar to former greatness.
  15. knn54
    knn54 April 22 2013 12: 04 New
    +3
    The place that Turkey cannot replace in Western politics. In this sense, the Americans do not have too many instruments of influence. Ankara PERFECTLY understands that they have an undeniable value, their geographical location. The West has nowhere to go with its problems: Iran, Northern Iraq, Syria, Georgia .... The United States, even being extremely dissatisfied with the behavior of Turkey, is not able to rectify the situation. What the Turks (as members of NATO) and use.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 22 2013 22: 58 New
      0
      Quote: knn54
      about the place that Turkey

      Plus the straits under their control. Which is very important. The trump card that hits everyone else.
  16. knn54
    knn54 April 22 2013 12: 05 New
    0
    The place that Turkey in Western politics cannot be replaced with anything. In this sense, the Americans do not have too many instruments of influence. Ankara PERFECTLY understands that they have undeniable value - their geographical location. The West has nowhere to go with its problems: Iran, Northern Iraq, Syria, Georgia .... The United States, even being extremely dissatisfied with the behavior of Turkey, is not able to rectify the situation. What the Turks (as members of NATO) and use.
  17. Corsair
    Corsair April 22 2013 12: 45 New
    +1
    And this war finally finished off the Europeans, knocking out of them any desire to fight.
    But there is a desire to colony the weak, in which we would like to see Russia. The way out is not to be snotty. Toughly resist any attacks that infringe on our sovereignty and our desire to live as we want
  18. Corsair
    Corsair April 22 2013 12: 45 New
    +2
    And this war finally finished off the Europeans, knocking out of them any desire to fight.
    But there is a desire to colonize the weak, in which we would like to see Russia. The way out is not to be snotty, to firmly resist any attacks that infringe on our sovereignty and our desire to live as we want. Russia is the Third Rome, and it should not be equal to others.
  19. pa_nik
    pa_nik April 22 2013 12: 54 New
    +1
    Good analysis. Indeed, from the side shown, neither the Armed Forces looked at our Armed Forces, much less the media did not show. Balm. laughing
  20. Black
    Black April 22 2013 16: 06 New
    +1
    this will be a fundamental turning point in the entire geopolitical situation and will mean the complete loss of real influence by the West. The paradox is that this, too, may not be understood by anyone.


    I agree with everything.
    But,
    - if the West loses the real influence - how can this be hidden? there will be no paradox.
    - I don’t think that, say, Europe will not be able to appreciate the threat that looms over Western civilization. Early we knock on the lid.
  21. Vtel
    Vtel April 22 2013 17: 01 New
    +5
    Why should we crush the "Fifth" column, otherwise they spoil our entire info-war with the West. "Echo of Moscow" - rename "Echo of Tel Aviv".
  22. shinobi
    shinobi April 22 2013 18: 25 New
    +2
    Do you remember that a series of military games and exercises "shield and sword" was held in the alliance? So there, along the way, a new system of army control was worked out. When the algorithms of the system after the collapse of the alliance fell into the hands of NATO strategists, analysts of the FRG in particular, they played games already At home. The Germans played based on our algorithm, their aponents on NATO. The result stunned everyone. The Union, starting the war with conventional weapons, rolled EuroNATO for 3-5 days. Completely. Now let's remember the events in Georgia and in what time frame everything happened.
    PS: The Third World War has been going on for a long time and it is not nuclear, as we are all very afraid of it. It was informational and began with Winston Churchill’s full speech. The USSR lost this war, but not Russia, which will again become an empire. If you want this, of course.
  23. Genera
    Genera April 22 2013 18: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Akhtuba73
    And here behind the fish inspector with a Marine chevron politely so on the shoulder - "Why tyrannize the beast? And on the snout?" And here comes the idea that chess is better than fishing.

    I could not even imagine about such a development of events. good
  24. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 April 22 2013 18: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    We win dear, we win!

    I agree. And we win almost without making any effort to this. They in the West have already outwitted themselves.
  25. Naval
    Naval April 22 2013 19: 05 New
    +2
    Yes, they can only fight at a distance, fired a rocket, placed a veil, and go home, meet the hero’s homeland. And face to face, and even with losses, grief and universal grief overshadows the sun, the whole world should sprinkle ashes on the head, and it would be foolish to wait for heroism and sacrifice from the person who came to see the world, earn some money, and a scholarship for higher education . What does he care about Libya or Syria, about which he had not even heard of before.
  26. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick April 22 2013 20: 58 New
    0
    I feel this year there will be something to scratch my tongue about. This year there will be many events, perhaps not entirely pleasing to us. (My opinion)
  27. smart ass
    smart ass April 22 2013 21: 44 New
    0
    I agree with the author 100%
  28. xan
    xan April 22 2013 22: 55 New
    0
    so it turns out that the most valuable thing in a soldier is the willingness to die, taking as many enemies as possible with you to the next world
    the greater the person’s determination, right up to death, to respond to the threat, the less likely it will be needed
  29. wax
    wax April 22 2013 23: 01 New
    0
    The propaganda bubble should be filled with noble gas, and not hydrogen sulfide with ammonia, so that when it (the bubble) bursts, one can hope to breathe fresh air.
  30. Thor
    Thor April 23 2013 03: 28 New
    0
    Which USA is invincible if they lose the war in Vietnam and Somalia
  31. strenadk
    strenadk April 23 2013 05: 39 New
    0
    Good article, morale always prevailed over power, thanks to the author for the work!
  32. razved
    razved April 25 2013 14: 08 New
    0
    The Russian army did not lose the first Chechen campaign !!!!!!!!