The delivery of anti-drone systems "Dvina-100M" has begun, taking into account the evolution of UAVs

Threats associated with attacks drones on important strategic objects are constantly increasing. To combat them, the delivery of the latest anti-drone systems "Dvina-100M" has begun, which takes into account the evolution of enemy UAVs.

This was reported by the press service of the state corporation Rostec.

This system, using radio-electronic means at temperatures from -40 to +50 degrees, suppresses control and data transmission channels, as well as satellite navigation.

The manufacturer of the Dvina-100M is one of the enterprises of the Rosel holding, which is part of Rostec.

Rosel Holding has begun supplying Dvina-100M drone suppression systems

- the press service of the state corporation reports.

The new anti-drone system will be used to protect large manufacturing plants and infrastructure facilities, such as airports and railway junctions. It will be able to protect them from UAV swarms. Dvina creates a protected zone of several hundred meters above the protected facility.

The system is capable of operating in a wide frequency range and has several fixed and high-speed reconfigurable jamming frequencies. Thus, it is capable of counteracting massive attacks. drones various, including those that use pseudo-random range reconfiguration.

"Dvina-100M" is manufactured by "NatsInfoBez" company - a structural division of the holding "RosEl". The enterprise specializes in the development and production of means of comprehensive protection of objects from immaterial threats from the air.

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[PROXOR]

THIS IS A HEDGEHOG!!!!
PS: too short and in the opinion of the site administration

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: PROXOR

THIS IS A HEDGEHOG!!!!
PS: too short and in the opinion of the site administration

Yes, I would lengthen the hedgehog.
If there are a lot of hedgehogs, you can assemble an AFAR from them.

[bug120560]

"Rostec" is always "Rostec", a purely "commercial approach", although what can you expect from "effective managers" who put money first. I wonder if any of these "geniuses" have bothered with the question - where will these suppressed drones fall?

[vargo]

What do you suggest? What do you think should have been done differently than Rostec?

[lukash66]

Quote: bug120560

"Rostec" is always "Rostec", a purely "commercial approach", although what can you expect from "effective managers" who put money first. I wonder if any of these "geniuses" have bothered with the question - where will these suppressed drones fall?

They do something - launder money, do nothing - steal everything. You can't please. What do you propose?

[bug120560]

Alexey, briefly and honestly, I see only one way to solve the existing systemic problems - the development of the army and issues of its combat capability should be handled by the military, and not by "outsiders" appointed to the position, the return of all military-industrial complex enterprises to state ownership, the liquidation of all management structures like Rostec, the revival of specialized ministries and direct state financing. And of course, strict control over the use of budget funds.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

I see only one way to solve the existing systemic problems - ... the return of all military-industrial complex enterprises to state ownership, the liquidation of all management structures such as Rostec, the revival of specialized ministries and direct state financing

Are you working for your enemies?

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

he was a dib..., and he remains one

I'm flattered. But still - I still don't understand why you needed to break perfectly functional structures and replace them with obviously non-functional ones.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

Something can only be explained to someone who is capable of thinking

That might explain something., you probably wanted to say...

Quote: Paranoid62

why did you need to break perfectly working structures and replace them with obviously non-working ones

Let me explain a little, with your permission, of course:

Russian company AVD has developed a mobile air defense point called Lovets, designed to protect important objects from various drones

The installation received a modernized chassis of the armored reconnaissance and patrol vehicle BRDM-2, which was equipped with a new transmission and engine. Instead of a turret, the vehicle, which is called a "mess", was equipped with an anti-aircraft mount ZU-23-2 to combat drones at altitudes of up to 1500 meters.

ZU-23-2 received a thermal imaging sight and a camera with 32x optical zoom. This allows performing tasks at any time of day. The declared detection range of drones is 3000 meters

A private individual, at his own expense, has developed something and is offering it for consideration. The Ministry of Defense only has to sift the wheat from the, um, chaff. For some reason, you are suggesting that what a private individual is already doing, at his own expense, be shifted to the state. Question: why did you need this, and who taught you bad things?

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, you are true to yourself and as always in your judgments you try to "shove the unshoveable". What does a private company have to do with the activities of Rostec, trying to solve the problem of combating drones with its own artisanal methods? Still, using your example, I will try to explain my point of view to you once again - it is not "AVD" that should produce what it is capable of doing, it is "Rostec", as a state corporation created specifically to assist in the development and production of new types of weapons, that is obliged to prepare and issue a task for the development and mass production of a fire control system based on the use of electro-optical sensors and computer control, for the search and guidance of which the function of detection, tracking and guidance should be performed not by a person, but by a computer. And it was obliged to do this yesterday, and if it did not do this in the fourth year of the war, in which drones are the main problem on the battlefield and in the rear, then it is not worth a penny on a market day.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

Rostec, as a state corporation created specifically to assist in the development and production of new types of weapons, is obliged to prepare and issue a task for the development and mass production of a fire control system based on the use of electronic-optical sensors and computer control, for search and guidance in which the function of detection, tracking and guidance should be performed not by a person, but by a computer

Fear and horror. The FCS is a control system, by the way, it can't shoot down anything by itself.

Once again: now small things, like this ZU-23 in the junkyard, are handled by private individuals. There are many of them, they have a lot of developments, something will "take off". And that's right.

The state here is in the role of a picky buyer on the market: it simply chooses what useful thing to buy. And no "ministries" will do better here. This is, excuse me, ABC

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

The fire control system (FCS) is a fire control system that, if equipped with appropriate automatic aiming mechanisms, can control any weapon system from 7,62 to 57 mm.

I see. So, in your opinion, the FCS is not capable of controlling a tank gun. It's strange, how did I shoot then?

Quote: bug120560

It's too bad that amateurs are doing this

On the contrary, it's good. I repeat - in small things, like improvements to the rifle, drones, robots and other ZU-23 on wheels - it's simply magnificent. Because state money is not spent on all this crap, there is a lot of this crap, and the state can choose - what is useful and what is not.

It seems simple. And yes - try not to be rude. It is not my habit to complain, but you understand, I cannot vouch for others.

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, the truth has never been rude. Well, judge for yourself how one can perceive your statement - "So, in your opinion, the FCS is not capable of controlling a tank gun. It's strange, how did I shoot then" in response to the fact that the FCS can control ANY weapon system?

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

the truth has never been rude. Well, judge for yourself how one can perceive your statement - "So, in your opinion, the FCS is not capable of controlling a tank gun. It's strange, how did I shoot then" in response to the fact that the FCS can control ANY weapon system?

Hm. I can read pretty well.

The fire control system (FCS) is a fire control system that, if equipped with appropriate automatic guidance mechanisms, can control any weapon system. from 7,62 to 57mm

That is, over 75 - it can't. You wrote? And the tank gun - it's 125

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

We seemed to be discussing anti-UAV systems, and that is precisely why I mentioned calibers.

Cool. Well, I can accept it with a stretch... but at least warn me next time.

Although, shooting at beeples with a 75mm is also clearly overkill.

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, I don't know if this will be news to you, but there are different types of UAVs, flying at different altitudes and over different distances. There are also those the size of a light aircraft.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

I don't know, maybe this will be news to you, but UAVs come in different types

- About "I don't know" - I'm not surprised. You don't know much at all.
- news - will not be
- different - what are you talking about now? Kamikaze, scouts? What exactly do you mean?

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

While you're at it, read what's flying in from the Russian hinterland

Yeah. So you're talking about kamikaze after all. Good.

You see: the larger the target, and the higher it flies, the better the air defense sees it. The rule "spotted in time = shot down" works 102%.

That's why kamikazes try to fly lower, using the terrain for camouflage. And the same ZU-shka is quite enough to get them. Provided, again, that the kamikazes are noticed in time.

In this case, the 57 mm anti-aircraft gun is frankly excessive... well, I already said that.

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, bravo, you are starting to make "profound" conclusions. To finish our essentially empty dialogue, I want to tell you once again - I never said that the targets for rapid-fire anti-aircraft guns of cal. 23 - 57 mm should be precisely all those "children's toys" flying over the battlefield with explosives tied with duct tape. So that you finally get my opinion, it was and is - to combat drones, a multi-level air defense system is needed, capable of operating on the move on the battlefield and in the immediate rear. To protect attacking armored vehicles from kamikazes, rapid-fire aircraft machine guns in cal. 7,62 and 12,7 are quite sufficient, the main thing here is the response speed. To combat reconnaissance UAVs and long-range attack drones that fly higher, as well as to combat cruise missiles, rapid-fire guns of cal. 23 - 57 mm are needed. But both of them must necessarily have an automatic search and targeting station that works without human intervention, similar to the American "Bullfrog" system. And one more thing - I think that installing a similar detection and targeting system on existing systems like "Pantsir 1S" will not be superfluous either. As for the topic of "it's all expensive", "who will pay", I can only recall the words of one movie mafioso: "when it comes to family honor - talking about money is inappropriate". I really hope that now you understand me.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

To combat drones, a multi-level air defense system is needed that can operate on the move on the battlefield and in the immediate rear

Great. But that's not what we were talking about.

Quote: bug120560

must have an automatic search and guidance station that operates without human intervention

Yes. And also - it's good to be rich and healthy. And to be poor and sick - well, very bad. And this is -

Quote: bug120560

return of all military-industrial complex enterprises to state ownership, liquidation of all management structures such as Rostec, revival of specialized ministries and direct state financing

- you should definitely not do this.

I'm so glad you finally figured it out.

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, you are hopeless after all. I will repeat what I have already told you many times - start learning, maybe you will stop being a demagogue, and then you will gain more intelligence.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

Paranoid62, you are hopeless after all. I will repeat what I have already told you many times - start learning, maybe you will stop being a demagogue, and then you will gain more intelligence.

Well, commenting here would only spoil things. Although, I'll try, just once, to get through:

- You were explained that you shouldn't do what you're suggesting. And you were explained in detail why you shouldn't do it. You didn't get it. Okay.
- For some reason you got involved in air defense. They explained to you that you don't know how to turn your thoughts into words. Didn't get it. Okay.
- You are starting to teach me how to live for some reason. Well, you are doing this in vain - I have been living for a long time, and I am already used to it.

You are a funny little bug. I will ask my friends, um, entomologists to study you in more detail.

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, if you consider your answer: "Are you working for the enemy?" to my opinion: "if briefly and honestly I see only one way to solve the existing systemic problems - the development of the army and issues of its combat readiness should be handled by the military, and not by "outsiders" appointed to this position, the return of all military-industrial complex enterprises to state ownership, the liquidation of all management structures like Rostec, the revival of specialized ministries and direct state financing. And of course strict control over the use of budget funds" with a detailed explanation of the reasons why there is no need to do what has been done more than once (a relatively recent example is the Venezuelan oil industry), you are an even more "gifted" person than you seem at first glance. I will repeat the advice - instead of pressing the keys of the keyboard - study, maybe you will gain intelligence. And remember: "Propaganda does not make idiots out of people. It was initially designed for them." "Stupidity is not in ignorance, but in the refusal to learn."
Bernard Show.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

... if you consider your answer: "Are you working for the enemy?"... a detailed explanation of the reasons why there is no need...

Of course, I don't think so. Detailed. Detailed further, with examples. But you are too lazy to read... well, or it's inability - I don't know.

Quote: bug120560

I will repeat the advice

I don't need your advice.

And yes, try to put your thoughts in order before writing anything.

Quote: A.P. Chekhov

Brevity is the soul of wit

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

if you think there is at least something reasonable and not unfounded

Well, of course there is. For example, there is an example of a private company developing a prototype of a mobile air defense system. Against kamikaze drones. The design is, of course, somewhat rectofecal, but as an example of the creative activity of private companies (on which the state, we note, does not spend a single kopeck) - it is quite sufficient.

There are many such examples. The state only has to choose what suits it. And that is normal.

Quote: bug120560

then you are a complete d...

I am aware of your opinion of me, and I do not share it. Moreover, I know people who do not share it either... would you like to introduce me?

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

the development is a complete "fake", doomed in advance to be quickly destroyed when it appears in open space

Excuse me, what with? This is a machine for the deep rear, to catch kamikazes.

[bug120560]

Paranoid62, what's "bullshit" about it? The human eye and brain are simply not capable of reacting in a timely manner to an attack by even one kamikaze drone, not to mention the option when one object is attacked by several, either in the deep rear or on the front line.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

the development is a complete "fake", doomed in advance to be quickly destroyed when it appears in open space

Quote: bug120560

the human eye and brain are simply not capable of reacting in a timely manner to an attack by even one kamikaze drone

I don't understand who is attacking whom.

The installation is made to, if possible, shoot down kamikazes flying nearby. They do not attack the installation, but an oil refinery, for example.

I absolutely do not understand who has already destroyed your installation.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: bug120560

When attacking from the air, the first thing they try to do is disable air defense systems

When attacking from the air (and any attack in general), first of all, they try to hit the target designated for this attack. If it turns out that this is difficult to do because of the air defense, then yes, they start knocking out the air defense.

Fail, two.

[Kotofeich]

Quote: bug120560

the military should be doing this, not the "outsiders"

In my many years of experience, both the military and the visiting Varangians are one and the same in terms of money laundering and theft.

[bug120560]

Alexander, it seems to me that in regard to the army "to tar everyone with the same brush" is not worth it. If you look closely at the "creative" path of those army figures who were involved in corruption cases, you will see that most of them are exactly those "outsiders" who never held combat positions, even at the level of company commander. The exception is perhaps the case of General Popov, but it seems to me that it is "murky" and has nothing to do with corruption, it is simply revenge.

[Kotofeich]

Quote: bug120560

"to tar everyone with the same brush"

Ah, I'm not kidding. Thieves, bribe-takers and embezzlers are everywhere, both in the army and in civilian life. And honest and decent people are everywhere too.

[bug120560]

Alexander, of course there are, but still there are more honest ones.

[Inj Meh]

Quote: bug120560

Alexey, briefly and honestly, I see only one way to solve the existing systemic problems - the development of the army and issues of its combat capability should be handled by the military, and not by "outsiders" appointed to the position, the return of all military-industrial complex enterprises to state ownership, the liquidation of all management structures like Rostec, the revival of specialized ministries and direct state financing. And of course, strict control over the use of budget funds.

Don't pay attention to the paranoid comrade. Just ignore him.

He's a cheap troll bot here.

[Lemon]

Dvina" creates a protected zone of several hundred meters over the protected object.

The idea is good and necessary. We will see the effectiveness later.

[bug120560]

Lemon, I want to remind you of the phrase of Admiral Ushakov from the film "Admiral Ushakov":
"We must study history. It is not enough to drive away the enemy, it is not enough to beat him, we must destroy him!"

[Konnick]

Threats related to drone attacks on important strategic facilities are constantly growing. To combat them, the delivery of the latest anti-drone systems "Dvina-100M" has begun, which takes into account the evolution of enemy UAVs.

This was reported by the press service of the state corporation Rostec.

I don't understand who these press services work for. Why warn about the appearance of this system in the general press? But we slow down the Internet and ban WhatsApp... or is this just to scare?

[solar]

Why warn the general press about the appearance of this system?

Brevity is the sister of talent, but the mother-in-law of fees.
The more advertising, the more they will buy. The law of capitalism :((...

[Mazunga]

it's not a fact that it even works, so advertising is definitely needed. The name natsbezinfo confuses me)) I have a feeling that we'll hear about it again

[Dutchman Michel]

How many of these anti-drone systems have there been? And nothing has changed.

[vargo]

Well, it's like air defense. How many of them have been invented, but something still flies through. This is all because there is no absolute weapon. The process is always in motion

[rocket757]

Control of airspace, detection and destruction of dangerous objects, one of the most important tasks and not for the future, but already yesterday all this had to be done...
Not easy, expensive, but EXTREMELY NECESSARY!

[vargo]

There will always be someone who will say "It was long overdue"))

[rocket757]

Found... but what, it's not really like that?
If you look more closely, the list of things that SHOULD HAVE BEEN CREATED, DONE LONG AGO is not that small...
Unfortunately, screwing up, causing harm, NOT DOING something is not a tricky business... it is much more difficult to fix, to do what is necessary, on the go, in a hurry...

[vargo]

Yes, just saying "it was long overdue" is also not a tricky thing. Especially when it was done. As for me, praise for what was done will sound better than a reproach for sluggishness and obviousness. There is simply a category of those who like to say "it was long overdue" instead of praise, although some things could not even be done the way they are now.

If you look at it that way. Remember Krasukha? Where is it? Where are many of the beautifully voiced ones? Why aren't they multiplied? Because everything changes and we need to adapt. And what has been done now "long ago" couldn't have been done.

That's why the phrase "it should have been done a long time ago" sounds somehow meaningless.

[rocket757]

If you think about it, remember how long it takes to create something sensible, necessary... nothing like that appears out of nowhere. This is the work of MANY and many, from scientists to manufacturers, producers of in-demand equipment!
So it is.

[km-21]

The new anti-drone system will be used to protect large manufacturing plants and infrastructure facilities, such as airports and railway junctions. It will be able to protect them from UAV swarms. Dvina creates a protected zone of several hundred meters above the protected facility.

This is a profanation. The electronic warfare system is capable of suppressing only those drones that are remotely controlled via the simplest communication systems. Today, more complex communication systems are known (for example, Starlink), which form a protected narrow-beam radio channel that is practically not subject to interception by any electronic warfare systems. In addition, there are drones that operate autonomously and do not use any external control or communication means. Their suppression is also beyond the capabilities of any electronic warfare means.

In today's situation, it is necessary to understand that it is absolutely impossible to protect the rear infrastructure solely by defensive means. To solve the problem, it is necessary to leave the deep defense and go on the attack. It is necessary to start inflicting painful blows on the enemy.

But we must understand that our real enemy is not Ukraine but NATO. Therefore, the strikes will have to be carried out precisely on NATO territory. To begin with, on Poland and/or Romania. And then - as it goes...

[rytik32]

Quote: km-21

Today, more complex communication systems are known (for example, Starlink), which form a protected narrow-range radio channel that is practically not susceptible to interception by any electronic warfare systems.

Starlink does not work in the depths of the Russian Federation

Quote: km-21

There are drones that operate autonomously and do not use any external control or communication means.

These drones have the appropriate precision

[km-21]

Starlink does not work in the depths of the Russian Federation

In the depths of the Russian Federation, Starlink does not provide the Internet access service to the average user. But Starlink reliably provides control of NATO drones throughout the entire planet. Including in the depths of the Russian Federation.

These drones have the appropriate precision

These drones have enough precision to hit Russian oil refineries in their most vulnerable spots.

[rytik32]

Quote: km-21

Such drones have enough accuracy to hit Russian oil refineries in their most vulnerable spots.

Most likely you have already seen this video https://vk.com/clip-53474_456302328
I live a few kilometers from this lake. This drone is not the first to fall into this lake, and it will not be the last. Apparently, the electronic warfare system regularly replaces the coordinates of one of the nearby defense plants with this lake. And the inertial system is not accurate enough to detect the substitution of coordinates.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: rytik32

Starlink does not work in the depths of the Russian Federation

cellular communication still works, for example.. and, by the way, Starlink also works in the Russian Federation.. it is simply not allowed in the Russian Federation.. but this does not mean that the enemy drone does not care about it... or do you think that Starlink satellites are geostationary? or specifically over the Russian Federation - do they fly around the borders? or are they turned off over the Russian Federation? to all questions - the answer is "NO"

Quote: rytik32

These drones have the appropriate precision

with a couple of corrections during the flight (by any means) and with large target sizes - they have enough...

[rytik32]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Starlink works in Russia

Possible only in border areas. If, for example, on board a plane from Europe to China, over the territory of the Russian Federation, you turn on the Starlink terminal - it will not catch or transmit anything.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

with a couple of corrections during the flight

But what if these corrections happen in the wrong direction due to the work of electronic warfare?

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: rytik32

If, for example, you turn on the Starlink terminal on board an airplane from Europe to China, over the territory of the Russian Federation, it will not pick up or transmit anything.

Have you tried it or where did you get your conclusions? Or are you talking about the fact that they simply won't let you on the plane to Starlink, and there will also be problems for having a prohibited means of communication?

[rytik32]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Have you tried it or where did you get your conclusions?

I haven't tried it myself, but others have.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

that they simply won't let you on the plane to Starlink, and there will also be problems for having a prohibited means of communication?

If the plane flies between countries where Starlink is allowed, there will be no issues when boarding/exiting

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: rytik32

If the plane flies between countries where Starlink is allowed, there will be no issues when boarding/exiting

Are you claiming that Musk turns off the satellites during their flight over the Russian Federation or that there is some other reason why Starlink does not work in this case?

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I haven't tried it myself, but others have.

and can you tell me who and where I can read about this? besides, are they really normal? for this, at least an administrative fine with confiscation, at most a prison term... I think from the news, it would definitely pass..

[rytik32]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Musk turns off satellites during their flight over the Russian Federation or is there some other reason why Starlink does not work in this case

The Starlink server receives the terminal coordinates, understands that work is prohibited in this area and does not allow work.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

for this the minimum is an administrative fine with confiscation

Which country's laws are these? It is not by chance that I write that takeoff and landing are from the territory of countries where Starlink operates officially.

See https://www.securitylab.ru/blog/personal/Bitshield/356162.php

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: rytik32

The Starlink server receives the terminal coordinates, understands that work is prohibited in this area and does not allow work.

you could have just said so right away

Quote: rytik32

Which country's laws are these?

13.6 Code of Administrative Offences. Uncertified equipment:
If equipment, including satellite equipment, does not have a certificate of conformity or has hidden functions, it may be classified as an uncertified means of communication.
Individuals: Fine from 3 to 000 rubles with confiscation.
Legal entities: Fine from 60 to 000 rubles with confiscation.

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: km-21

Therefore, the strikes will have to be carried out specifically on NATO territory.

To begin with, Moscow must decide to strike at Kyiv and Bankova, the places where the Bandera junta leadership itself is hiding.

Quote: km-21

drones that operate autonomously and do not use any external control or communication means

They still need a navigation signal, otherwise they will get lost. And jamming navigation systems, although difficult, is a well-established technology. Fighting Starlink and other enemy satellite channels is also quite possible. The problem is that all this joy requires a fairly powerful, multi-channel and constantly operating microwave generator. And making it stationary is stupid. They will be easily detected by NATO space electronic reconnaissance equipment and the Nazi UAVs will simply not fly in that direction. And no EW stations will be enough to completely cover the entire territory of Russia. It is necessary to destroy the decision-making centers in Kyiv and only then in Poland and Romania.

[km-21]

To begin with, Moscow must decide to strike at Kyiv and Bankova, the places where the Bandera junta leadership itself is hiding.

It is useless. The Kyiv regime is a puppet. The real decision-making centers are on NATO territory.

They still need a navigation signal, otherwise they will get lost.

They won't get lost. All autonomous UAVs are controlled by an inertial navigation system that calculates current coordinates using onboard sensors for instrument heading and instrument speed. And GPS/GLONASS navigation is used only for periodic correction of accumulated errors.

Fighting Starlink and other enemy satellite channels is also entirely possible.

Impossible. Geometrically, the radio channel is a narrow straight line between the satellite and the ground terminal antenna. In order to interfere with the operation of this radio channel, it is necessary to place the interference source exactly on this line, which is theoretically possible, but only in laboratory conditions.

[barbos]

The problem is that all this joy requires a sufficiently powerful, multi-channel and constantly operating microwave generator.

It's boring with you old men sometimes. What did you learn in the Soviet Union? Where did you put your memories? )? There are such things as special microwave radio tubes. They've been made for ages. They're often used in microwaves. A magnetron or klystron with water cooling can fry air for days, like in radars. You just need a power source of several megawatts. Preferably two, in case one breaks. And it always will.

[Konnick]

Quote: km-21

This is a profanation. The electronic warfare system is capable of suppressing only those drones that are remotely controlled via the simplest communication systems. Today, more complex communication systems are known (for example, Starlink), which form a protected narrow-beam radio channel that is practically not subject to interception by any electronic warfare systems. In addition, there are drones that operate autonomously and do not use any external control or communication means. Their suppression is also beyond the capabilities of any electronic warfare means.

The main thing is to turn off mobile Internet and there are no problems... some, especially gifted ones, think so

[km-21]

The main thing is to turn off mobile Internet and there are no problems... some, especially gifted ones, think so

Sometimes it helps, because there are drones controlled via mobile internet. But unfortunately - not always.

[barbos]

For general information, could you please tell me what a secure radio channel is?

Therefore, the strikes will have to be carried out specifically on NATO territory.

So your leader Zelensky only wants this: to drag in the entire bloc and make a good profit. Isn't that right?

[Ksanatos]

It's not quite clear. They turned off the connection and navigation, but the inertial system remains. A few hundred meters away there won't be a very big error.

[Dedok]

Over a few hundred meters there won't be a very big error.

the error accumulates over the entire flight if corrections are not periodically introduced to correct the location on the ground...

[NakedMan]

Well, the article doesn’t cover the entire flight.

The new anti-drone system will be used to protect large manufacturing plants and infrastructure facilities, such as airports and railway junctions. It will be able to protect them from swarms of UAVs. Dvina creates a protected area over the protected facility. zone of several hundred meters.

Which is obviously wrong. They will hit large stationary objects quite well, even if there is no signal in the last hundreds of meters.

[ideo098]

Of course, it is difficult to say for sure about the necessity of such systems, but I think that it is more promising to develop detection, guidance and destruction systems. And what is here, a bunch of antennas for different frequency ranges, a jammer and a high-speed switch? And if it does not work out, there is no such frequency in the list of possible ones, then what? Then it is already scrap metal, for a lot of money, and the enemy UAV will fulfill its task.

[Inj Meh]

Well, how similar he is to our "Bunsha"!

An "antenna hedgehog" that combines passive protection around the protected vehicle and, as is now obvious, the potential to equip a reactive armament system.

[Fangaro]

"This system, using electronic means, suppresses control and data transmission channels, as well as satellite navigation, at temperatures ranging from -40 to +50 degrees."

Personal opinion...
Why start with the temperature range?!
How can satellite navigation be jammed with vertical antennas? How can data and control channels be jammed only with vertically polarized antennas?

[Fangaro]

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"Rostec" is always "Rostec", a purely "commercial approach", although what can you expect from "effective managers" who put money first. I wonder if any of these "geniuses" have bothered with the question - where will these suppressed drones fall?

If a suppressed drone didn't reach the oil depot, didn't hit the reservoir, didn't leave 50000 cars without gas for two days, didn't kill 50 oil depot employees, but fell into the courtyard of a multi-story building, killed 5 people, injured another 50 people, and 5 later died...
Would you rather die among the five civilians in high-rise buildings? Or let the 50 who are earning a salary die?

[Yuri L]

Chinese anti-drone systems operate on a slightly different principle, but they're somehow more attractive and mobile. Maybe we could learn from this?