Why weren't Soviet citizens afraid of viruses and germs?

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Why weren't Soviet citizens afraid of viruses and germs?

In 2020, the world learned about the emergence of a terrible disease - coronavirus. Strict restrictions were introduced: quarantine, self-isolation, mandatory wearing of masks - thin gauze bandages. The population was told that this was a talisman against mortal danger. People stopped shaking hands with each other, and in general began to communicate less. Gradually, mass psychosis began: people swore because someone did not have a gauze bandage, they stopped letting people into the metro without one and began to fine them for its absence.

A scandal broke out in one of the shopping centers: a security guard did not let a woman into the store because she was not wearing gloves. More precisely, she was wearing gloves, but they were her leather demi-season gloves. The security guard demanded that the woman strictly observe safety precautions and wear hygienic gloves. I recall an episode of going to a small cafe for a quick snack: the cashier categorically refused to scan the amount until I put on a gauze mask. When I asked how I should eat in a mask, the answer was that I can only take off this mask during the process of eating, after which I must immediately put it back on. The psychosis grew with each passing day...



Why wasn't there anything like this in Soviet times? The 70s and 80s. There were soda machines on city streets: for one kopeck you could get plain soda water, and for three kopecks you could get sweet soda with syrup added. But the main thing is not this, but that there was only one glass in the machine for everyone who wanted to drink this very soda: today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow. One for everyone. Thus, this reusable vessel came into contact with thousands of hands and lips of different city residents and visitors from other regions every day, being exposed to street dust, microbes and viruses that were literally transmitted to each other. Sometimes this glass could be used by a cheerful company to drink alcoholic beverages. They would take the glass for a while and after the end of the street banquet they would return it to its place. Of course, each machine had a special mechanism - a sink for rinsing the glass with clean water after each client. But how effective was this procedure?

There was a brisk trade in pies on the streets and at bus stops, the favorite of which were pies with jam for five kopecks - delicious and aromatic. For meat pies you had to pay more - about ten kopecks. The buying process looked like this: the female seller took a fresh hot pie, wrapped it in a small piece of paper, without fear of possible contamination and infections.

Another popular treat was ice cream in crispy waffle cones, sold straight from a large box containing about forty servings. No disposable packaging or sterile conditions – you take your ice cream and enjoy the taste.

Bread and bakery products were also displayed in the open in stores – anyone could touch a bun with their fingers, check the quality of the bread and choose a suitable loaf on their own: there was no individual packaging. Often, buyers sorted through several loaves in a row, choosing a suitable one, after which they went home with bread in a mesh bag, through which the loaf freely breathed air and absorbed the dust of the streets. On the way, having met a familiar person, they could stop for a conversation, and put the bag with bread on a bench, or even on the ground. Then at home they calmly cut the bread and cooked dinner.

On weekends, when going to the park, forest or beach, people took food for the whole day with them, which they laid out at best on a newspaper, and often just on the ground, on the grass. No one was bothered by such unsanitary conditions.

Also worth mentioning are the famous kvass barrels. People came here specifically to enjoy the traditional Russian drink. The price varied: a small mug cost three kopecks, a large one - six, and a whole liter was sold for twelve kopecks. Despite popular urban legends about the possible presence of insects inside the liquid, the popularity of the drink remained unchanged among the population. It should be noted that glass mugs were used, like in soda machines, many times. They were not in a single copy, but the traffic in mass places was hundreds, and perhaps even thousands of people.

Our company was called to a halt after a long forced march during large-scale exercises in the Belarusian Military District. It suddenly turned out that the water in the flasks had run out and there was no way to replenish supplies. However, the terrain in Belarus is mostly swampy, and soon we found some kind of quagmire. We brushed away the top layer of mud with our palms, scooped up some water and drank. It was impossible to see whether the water in the flasks was dirty or not.

Today's residents, who grew up in conditions of increased sanitation and observe, for example, the picture of food preparation without due attention to hygiene, are indignant and indignant. They are irritated by the way food products are packaged, using gloves repeatedly or not observing hygiene rules at food enterprises.

Modern sanitary and epidemiological surveillance specialists would probably be horrified to see the conditions of storage and consumption of food products in the last century. But most former residents of the USSR remained healthy, their immunity was strong, and no one complained much, and no one wore masks and gloves.

What is the secret of the good health and lack of psychosis of Soviet citizens, unlike modern ones?
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  1. + 18
    12 September 2025 04: 44
    I remember August 1973 in Barnaul. After an internship at the engine plant, we were leaving for home. The next day, the city was closed for quarantine. Two weeks before that, the plant had been handing out free pills, excuse me, for diarrhea. Otherwise, everything was fine. There was no psychosis.
    1. + 11
      12 September 2025 06: 02
      But most former residents of the USSR remained in good health and had strong immune systems.
      And these were Soviet people, steadfast and politically literate! wink feel
      1. +8
        12 September 2025 19: 47
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        persistent
        This is the most accurate formulation. Until the 1960s - when medicine was still quite weak in the country - the healthiest and strongest babies without any pathologies survived. In the 1970s, the Ministry of Health still had an order in effect that children weighing less than 1.5 kg were issued a birth certificate only on the 10th day of life - before that, they were considered unviable.
        And now they pull out 400 (!!) gram children. Will such a child be healthy, will it produce normal offspring - if it is the size of a kitten?
        Yes, it's absolute sports lotto...
        And the amount of medication parents are pushing on their children these days is mind-boggling!!
        1. +8
          13 September 2025 17: 25
          WHY ........

          After the Revolution there was industrialization, a huge influx of population into the cities. Factories, plants, dormitories for workers were built and restored. First aid stations, showers, hygiene rooms were built everywhere. For children ---- nurseries, kindergartens, schools, sanatoriums, stadiums for children and adults. There was propaganda of hygiene, cleanliness, health. Posters. It would seem simple ---- about hand washing, attention to children. For example, Mayakovsky wrote
          There have never been and are no better nipples, I am ready to suck until old age!
          funny lol And this is about giving breastfed babies rubber nipples, not chewed bread in a rag, as it was before the Revolution. The simplest hygiene. Soviet people followed the rules and believed that everything would be fine.
          1. +3
            13 September 2025 21: 47
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Breastfed babies should be given rubber nipples, not chewed bread in a rag, as was the case before the Revolution

            I'll tell you a secret - bread in a rag was given to babies back in my childhood in the 1970s.

            Quote: Reptiloid
            There were first aid stations, showers, and hygiene rooms everywhere. For children ---- crèches, kindergartens, schools, sanatoriums, stadiums for children and adults. There was propaganda of hygiene, cleanliness, and health. Posters

            My mother-in-law was taken to the district center in the winter of 1973 to give birth to my wife. 70 km, off-road, in winter, in a Kirovets in a kung in a cart.
            Kirovets lowered the bucket and went straight ahead.
            If you have never driven a Kirovets, then for your understanding, a healthy strong man can give birth after driving a Kirovets 70 km off-road in winter, even if he is not pregnant. He will beat the shit out of you...
            And considering that the Kirovets was usually driven by a friend of the future dad after a liter of "for the future heir" - you can imagine the romanticism.
            The paramedic - to her credit, she was in the village - was so accustomed to the Kirovets and the washing that she herself drove the Kirovets and delivered babies - when she could.
            Then in the 1990s she worked as a tractor driver until retirement, when they stopped paying doctors altogether.
            A kindergarten appeared in the village in the early 1960s.
            So posters are posters, but life is a little different from posters.
            1. +8
              14 September 2025 02: 00
              bread in a rag......in 1979

              What is there to brag about? That simple hygiene has not come to you. Didn't they know about pacifiers or didn't have them? And what, there were no pacifiers or nipples for bottles? Nonsense and savagery. Local. Or pathological economy. Stinginess. Well, is it the same for children of your generation? And rural paramedics were qualified to deliver babies. And in the USSR they received additional payments and benefits.
              1. +1
                14 September 2025 08: 16
                That simple hygiene has not come to you. Didn't they know about nipples or didn't have them? And what, there were no nipples or pacifiers for bottles? Nonsense and wildness. Local.

                I protest, your honor! What kind of condescending Petrograd look is this?! It's written in Russian - it happened in the REGIONAL CENTER! And as we know, they were very, very different, no? The woman in labor was transported in a *Kirovets*, is that clear? Mother Rus' is far from a promenade along Nevsky, well, and along Gorky for that matter.
                Even in the USSR there were additional payments and benefits for them.
                But please, tell me more about the benefits, if you have the information, of course. laughing
                1. -1
                  7 October 2025 15: 00
                  Quote: ArchiPhil
                  in the district center! And as we know, they were very, very different, right?

                  the paradise center is the same everywhere
              2. +2
                14 September 2025 08: 23
                under the USSR

                Eh, Dmitry, Dmitry, you just have a slightly (though not slightly) romanticized view of life in the Union. There is a lot you, my dear, simply don’t know due to your age. recourse
                1. +2
                  7 October 2025 15: 06
                  Quote: ArchiPhil
                  You just have a slightly (though not slightly) romanticized view of life in the Soviet Union. There's a lot you, my dear, simply don't know because of your age.

                  Well, first of all, many people really can’t imagine life in 1958, for example.
                  Secondly, there are mostly city dwellers here who saw life in the countryside mainly during the Brezhnev stagnation period, and then only in fits and starts.
                  From personal experience, I went to visit my grandfather in the village every year in the summer.
                  There was a paramedic in the village, and in the local (not paradise) center 8 km away (half-village, half-settlement) there was both a hospital and an ambulance station (they were able to reattach my severed finger in the ambulance on Sunday, just in case, a year later both my blood circulation and nerves were restored)
                  Then there was the district center—about 45 km away, a bit steeper. The regional center is 250 km away, and it takes 5-6 hours by car, if not more. The healthcare there is top-notch.
                  This is what awaited the villagers. An ambulance could arrive within 15 minutes, but there was only one unit for about 20 villages. But if people knew where and who to call, a helicopter (a civilian Kamov) or an An-2 could fly to the neighboring airfield (about 30 km away). And once I saw paramedics arrive in a Kamov.
              3. 0
                14 September 2025 09: 16
                benefits.

                Thanks for the *minus*! Well, if there are no arguments, then this will do as an answer. *Fail* bully
                1. +2
                  14 September 2025 10: 37
                  What did you expect? I'm making exceptions for you, because I don't like to put minuses and, by the way, I haven't driven anyone under the baseboard. Especially those who just came. There should be different opinions on the site, even those that I don't like wink And if you knew more about the biography of your namesake, you would know that he was trying to get sneakers for his graduation. So, as for the bread crumbs at his birth ---- I DON'T BELIEVE IT!! A goiter slander. We have childhood photos in our family from that time and earlier. There were conversations about benefits and additional payments, since I lived in a rural area until I was 6. Of course, these were conversations among relatives and I can't repeat them.
                  1. -3
                    14 September 2025 10: 51
                    What did you expect? I'm making exceptions for you, because I don't like to give minuses and, by the way, I didn't drive anyone under the baseboard.

                    From you? Absolutely nothing. What kind of nonsense did you write, Dmitry?
                    There should be different opinions on the site, even those that I don't like wink
                    Here I probably agree.
                    If only they knew that he was trying to get sneakers for graduation.
                    Is this a crime? Any young man in the seventies raved about sneakers! Didn't know about this? As well as about many other things, by the way.
                    There were conversations about benefits and additional payments, since I was in a rural area until I was 6 years old.
                    This is of course a *source*! A real, factual one from the OBS category! Congratulations, you made my day! laughing
              4. +6
                14 September 2025 11: 10
                Quote: Reptiloid
                What is there to brag about? That simple hygiene has not come to you. Didn't they know about nipples or didn't have them? And what, weren't there nipples or pacifiers for bottles?

                1) if you quote opponent - that redo his text is, to put it mildly, indecent. Where did the quote come from 1979 - if I don't have it in the post? You're not the first to do this. In polite society, you used to get hit with a candelabra for that.
                2) for the idealists who don't know a damn thing - at that time there was an opinion in medicine that bread in a thick cloth helps to stabilize the intestinal microflora of infants with sluggish digestion

                Quote: ArchiPhil
                It is written in Russian - it happened in the REGIONAL CENTER! And as we know, they were very, very different, no?

                My opponent doesn't know that both then in the USSR and now in my district center with a district population of 26 and a distance from it in some places to settlements up to 000 km - there is supposed to be 90 (one!!) pediatrician. And if a baby gets sick on Friday evening - then there is only one way out - to pay the money. Because by that time they had already started to really rip off for child mortality - and not every paramedic wanted an extra yoke on his neck.
                That is why they often sent first-time mothers or those with complicated pregnancies to the regional center in Kirovets.
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And rural paramedics were qualified to deliver babies. And in the USSR they received additional payments and benefits.

                Quote: ArchiPhil
                But please, tell me more about the benefits, if you have the information, of course.

                Benefit lol in the USSR good there was always a doctor and a paramedic - the population brought them food (chicken, butter, sour cream, etc.). Taking into account the small refrigerators - they always had fresher.
                1. 0
                  14 September 2025 11: 14
                  Since I answered at night and without glasses --- I screwed up. I made a mistake. hi
                  There were some additional payments and benefits for rent, electricity, etc.
                  1. +4
                    15 September 2025 08: 06
                    For teachers and medical workers (paramedics) in the village, where there was mainly stove heating, firewood was provided free of charge with delivery, and it was called "municipal". As for the payment for electricity, in the village it was already half as much as in the city, in the city the population paid 4 kopecks per kilowatt, in the village 2 kopecks. The paramedic's working day looked something like this - before lunch, receiving patients on site at the medical center. Procedures, injections for those prescribed, selling medicines - there was a small pharmacy. The equipment usually included a chair for examining women, a dentist's chair, a small refrigerator, a couch for injections. Syringes were constantly boiling on the stove. After lunch, the paramedic went around his area on so-called calls. A call could come at any time of the day, at night too - injuries, childbirth, anything. Primary wound treatment, primary diagnosis, delivering a baby, then calling an ambulance by phone - this is a common thing for a paramedic. Regarding delivering a baby - usually all pregnant women were registered with a paramedic and were sent to the maternity hospital in advance, but there were nuances. The paramedic was assisted by a nurse, and together they worked at the first aid station. This was the case before, but I don't know how it is now.
                    1. 0
                      15 September 2025 09: 15
                      hi Thank you very much for the detailed explanations! I couldn't have written it myself! After the Revolution, they started making such paramedic stations in villages where there used to be only old women healers. They also started having paramedics at factories, if anything happened. I found out the following. In the district center where I lived until I was 6, there were highly qualified doctors, I have good words about them. But they couldn't always go to the district itself. They sent a paramedic. By helicopter. Or if a seriously ill person needed to be escorted to Khabarovsk quickly, then a paramedic was needed too. And if geologists had "field" ones in addition to the northern ones, then all health workers also had some similar additional payment. Holidays, weekends, nights --- also additional payments
                      1. +3
                        15 September 2025 09: 18
                        I saw this “kitchen” from the inside; my mother worked as a paramedic.
                      2. 0
                        15 September 2025 09: 20
                        I have no doubt you saw that everyone treated her with respect. hi
                    2. 0
                      15 September 2025 09: 18
                      I don't know about the benefits for nurses. There were probably some, too. In general, all the jobs were taken.
            2. +2
              14 September 2025 16: 58
              As a child, I was taken for a ride on a T-150K and a Kirovets, in the cabin, and when driving over rough terrain, the feeling was much more comfortable than on a Belarus or a T-40.
            3. -2
              7 October 2025 14: 57
              Quote: your1970
              In the winter of 1973, my mother-in-law was taken to the regional center to give birth to my wife.

              Sorry, I didn't quite understand who gave birth to whom. The mother-in-law gave birth to the wife or the wife gave birth to the mother-in-law?
  2. + 17
    12 September 2025 05: 23
    What is the secret of the good health and lack of psychosis of Soviet citizens, unlike modern ones?

    In the USSR there was no mass diarrhea because there was no information diarrhea in the media. No one fanned the hysteria even if something happened somewhere, and quietly and calmly work began - free (!!!) pills, personal hygiene products were distributed and... jokes were told. In 1970, cholera began in Odessa. The city was "closed". M. Zhvanetsky, who then still had a sense of humor, and not fierce hatred, wrote the famous:
    Cholera in Odessa
    ...
    The city became so clean that you could lie on the asphalt [...] And the glasses in the eateries were washed, and all the pipes were repaired, and the toilets were in order, and everyone's faces were clean
    ...
    And the tests! How they bring us closer...
    1. +4
      13 September 2025 12: 13
      The Soviets believed that everything was fine with them and would get even better. The party, the state and the media supported this belief with all their might.

      You turn on the radio in the morning... An anthem, exercises, some life-affirming words about how people are working. Doing more and more, better and better. A fairy tale? In many ways, yes. But such a "fairy tale" makes you want to live!

      People DIDN'T WANT to get sick then, they had no time to get sick, so - no pain. But today's people are mostly AFRAID, that's why they get sick, because fears are realized in life according to the same scheme as desires.
      1. -2
        14 September 2025 08: 26
        You turn on the radio in the morning... An anthem, exercises, some life-affirming words about how people are working. Doing more and more, better and better. A fairy tale? In many ways, yes. But such a "fairy tale" makes you want to live!

        What subtle sarcasm, bravo! good
        And today's people are mostly AFRAID, and that's why they get sick, since fears are realized in life according to the same pattern as desires.
        There is no time to be sick when you are in debt and a mortgage adds to your health! bully
        1. +3
          14 December 2025 17: 54
          Indeed, in the morning we heard the wonderful words: "Morning paints the walls of the ancient Kremlin with a gentle light," rather than the incantations of all sorts of propagandists. Then we breathed easier and believed in goodness and kindness.
  3. + 13
    12 September 2025 05: 24
    Want an analogy with the Soviet soda machine - selling drinks in aluminum cans - in the original, it should have a straw, but everyone has happily forgotten about it and drinks like that, licking the surface of the can, nothing prevents manufacturers/terrorists/illuminati from treating the cans with an aerosol with nanotechnology and voila - zombies/poo-poo people.
    Seriously - viral technologies have long been developed - it is known that viral components are capable of self-assembly, one Italian virologist observed people vaccinated against the flu and found that after about a month or two they begin to secrete viral particles and here you have a flu epidemic a couple of months after vaccination
    1. +2
      12 September 2025 12: 14
      Quote: eskulap
      sale of drinks in aluminum cans

      The day before yesterday I drank from an aluminum can. I thought the same thing: what unsanitary conditions. At least in the USSR they washed those cups with water! But drink from an aluminum can as you like. If you want, run home under the tap to wash it, or if you want, wipe it with your sleeve.
    2. +1
      12 September 2025 14: 47
      *selling drinks in aluminum cans - in the original, it should come with a straw, but everyone has conveniently forgotten about it*
      This is ours. In the damned West, these cans usually have foil on top. Not bare metal.
      At first glance, it is easy to tell where the beer is made.
  4. +6
    12 September 2025 06: 12
    Why? Who knows. Maybe because we walked a lot in the fresh air. Maybe because the food was without any chemicals. Yes, maybe the yield was low, in agriculture. But without antibiotics. Natural, or something. And we didn’t travel abroad. There are many options.
    1. +6
      12 September 2025 20: 09
      Quote: Panadol
      maybe the yield was low in agriculture. But without antibiotics.

      Birds on poultry farms, whether under socialism or capitalism, are given antibiotics and vitamins - otherwise, due to the high overcrowding, they simply do not survive.
      And yes, the Soviet BVK lol began to be given to cattle starting in 1973.
      Palm oil began to be used en masse under Khrushchev - all those who served in the SA know the combined fat with the color and taste of a paraffin candle
      And yes, it's completely "natural"...
      1. +5
        12 September 2025 22: 32
        Do you think there is no life anywhere except the army? Indeed, they gave us lard too. But I thought it was made from oil. And while it was hot, it went down quite well with fried potatoes, if that matters. As for the chickens, considering their appearance, it’s hard to believe that they were given chemicals. They were too small. And a little blue. Maybe you didn’t live there, since you don’t know?
        Furthermore, can you really compare the taste of that cooked sausage with what is on sale now? Maybe the palm oil back then was not from the same palm trees? laughing
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 22: 50
          Quote: Panadol
          As for the chickens, "considering their appearance, it's hard to believe that they were given chemicals. They were too small. And a little blue."

          My grandmother's cousin worked as a veterinarian at a poultry farm - Tetravit GDR lol I ran out of aluminum flasks in 2009
          In the USSR there were no broilers as a breed - there were large chickens, but no broilers.
          The egg-laying hen was the most common in the USSR, as it produced both meat and eggs - it laid eggs for up to 2 years before slaughter. That is why Soviet hens were bluish - they were old and harassed by roosters.
          And broilers are kept separately - that's why the chicken doesn't lay eggs and gets fat. There are no mutations there - just normal crossbreeding, like for example in Soviet giant rabbits - which are twice as big as normal ones.
          Quote: Panadol
          Furthermore, can you really compare the taste of that cooked sausage with what is currently on sale?

          Hmm, I'm having dinner - so don't talk about Soviet sausage - I know what it was made of. If I were to describe its ingredients in detail - you won't remember it, by God. And it's not rats or toilet paper...
          1. +3
            12 September 2025 23: 20
            Well, yes, of course. Solid rats and black soil! And about toilet paper, I heard back then! And considering that there was a shortage of it, the conclusion suggests itself. Who's whistling? laughing
            1. +3
              13 September 2025 10: 48
              Quote: Panadol
              Well, yes, of course. Solid rats and black soil! And about toilet paper, I heard back then! And considering that there was a shortage of it, the conclusion suggests itself. Who's whistling? laughing

              For NOT able to read-
              Quote: your1970
              And this NOT rats and NOT toilet paper...

              And yes, 2,20 per kilo of Soviet boiled ham is no less than 1000 rubles in today's money, no matter how you convert it.
              You eat sausage every day for 1000 rubles per kilo.
              And today's boiled porridge, in terms of price, is like Soviet liverwurst - a thing in itself for extreme sports enthusiasts.
              1. +1
                14 September 2025 17: 06
                And I really liked in Soviet times, as a child, the so-called "calorie" sausage" - a kind of hybrid of liver sausage and blood sausage. I never had any problems after eating it.
                1. 0
                  14 September 2025 19: 37
                  Quote: Sergej1972
                  blood sausage

                  Technologically, there could be nothing but blood and cereal - in some recipes. Both were not in short supply and cost pennies
                  And in the liverhouse there could be anything - because the liver had to go there - and that was already decent money and many people wanted it. It already made sense to steal it...
              2. 0
                14 September 2025 17: 08
                At the weekend fair and in trusted shops I regularly buy liver, liver and blood sausages, I like their taste. Although, of course, I eat other sausages too.)
          2. 0
            14 September 2025 17: 03
            They were partly bluish because the poultry farms used a method of killing them with electric current.)
          3. +1
            16 September 2025 03: 18
            In the USSR there were no broilers as a breed - there were large chickens, but no broilers.

            Because broilers are a growing technology based on a weight gain schedule tied to the amount of feed and the time of keeping. That is, there is a critical point beyond which you feed the animal, and the gain decreases.
            With this technology, you can even raise broiler crocodiles!
        2. 0
          16 September 2025 03: 13
          Furthermore, can you really compare the taste of that cooked sausage with what is currently on sale?

          No way. Taste buds die with age. "That taste" will no longer exist....
          1. +3
            17 September 2025 10: 47
            Granted, my taste buds have aged. Granted. But try frying, say, modern cooked sausage. Or hot dogs. What do you get? A lump of oversalted substance. It's simply inedible. And it looks pretty bad, too.
            1. +2
              17 September 2025 10: 58
              But try frying, for example, modern cooked sausage.

              Yes. I've already conducted this experiment. I tried many types of sausage and got no results, even in appearance. Organoleptic properties... Well, I agree.
  5. -5
    12 September 2025 06: 15
    Tell these tales to us, Soviet schoolchildren. At least 1 person in the class per year fell ill with hepatitis.
    Now this is not even close.
    1. + 14
      12 September 2025 08: 36
      Quote: MCmaximus
      Tell these tales to us, Soviet schoolchildren. At least 1 person in the class per year fell ill with hepatitis.
      Now this is not even close.

      For 10 years of study, not only in class, but also at school, there was not a single case. And water had to be drunk from a swamp at orienteering competitions.
      1. +6
        12 September 2025 12: 26
        And we had it. Constantly.
        I will tell you what happened in the valiant SA, no one will believe it.
        And so two children grew up and never again.
        And I'm not talking about Transbaikalia. There's always been cholera and typhus there. Dysentery is like a runny nose. I can't say how it is now. I haven't been there for a long time.
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 13: 45
          What was so terrible that happened in the valiant Soviet Army that no one would even believe?
          1. +3
            12 September 2025 16: 23
            1986. Summer. There are 1200-odd people in the brigade. 360 or 380-odd people have hepatitis. And then 2 people per company in half a year. Thank God, without more dangerous diseases.
            1. +4
              12 September 2025 16: 28
              So this emergency probably happened specifically in the brigade “thanks” to your command, and not in the Soviet Army.
              1. -1
                12 September 2025 16: 33
                Who cares?
                In the army, hepatitis was treated for 2 weeks with God knows what. I wouldn't be surprised if it was aspirin, brilliant green, and labor. What kind of liver problems, etc. these people had later - you can't determine.
                I have a friend who died. He got dropsy and stuff like that (cirrhosis). When they admitted him, it turned out that he had hepatitis at some point. And he didn't even know. He was healthy and didn't notice. On his feet and without treatment. That's all. So this thing is very dangerous in terms of consequences.
                1. +4
                  12 September 2025 16: 48
                  So you write about what happened in the SA, and you won't believe it: nothing terrible happened in the army. Moreover, who should I tell? Most of them served themselves.
                  1. +1
                    12 September 2025 16: 51
                    More than 25-30% of the disease in 3 months - is it not enough? In peacetime.
                    Everyone has their own criteria.
                    1. -1
                      12 September 2025 17: 20
                      So it was in your brigade, once again. Not in the Soviet Army, but in the brigade, the sick. And what happened in your valiant brigade, I do not know.
                      1. +1
                        12 September 2025 19: 12
                        You were told the truth. But you don't need the truth, apparently. We had the same thing, a general disease of hepatitis and typhoid fever. Since hepatitis knocks you down in no time, it couldn't be ignored, and they didn't even try to treat typhoid and dysentery, they said you had enterocolitis, it would go away on its own.
                        I didn’t even try to get fresh linen in the bathhouse, as it was completely infested with linen lice, which, according to rumors, are carriers of typhus.
                        And also from the training camp 1/4 or even 1/3 got infected with foot fungus. This is a unique phenomenon. In the 80s, dogs' paws were smeared with Nitrofungin against fungus, but military personnel were not smeared or given it. The price of Nitrofungin is about 30 kopecks per bottle. The most effective Nizoral appeared closer to the 90s and was expensive, there are no questions about its absence.
                        The conclusion suggests itself that dogs were treated better than service personnel at that time.
                      2. 0
                        12 September 2025 19: 40
                        Who pulled your service if you were all sick, lame and cross-eyed? And what truth are you telling me? I myself served in the Soviet Army: in the Baltics, in Belarus, in Afghanistan, I was in Fergana, and in the Saratov region, and in many regions. And everywhere we washed, and changed our linen, and looked after our health.
                      3. 0
                        12 September 2025 19: 46
                        And in Afghanistan you didn't get lice and dysentery? Does that happen?
                      4. +1
                        12 September 2025 20: 43
                        I have tasted many things in many places. But you started talking about the Soviet Army, where almost everyone was sick, with typhus; you were not allowed to wash and were not allowed to get treatment. All that remains is to tell about the gulag, the famine, the execution grounds all over the country...
                      5. +1
                        12 September 2025 20: 45
                        Got it? Does the truth hurt your eyes? Like in Afghanistan with lice and dysentery? I admit that they didn't have time to catch hepatitis there, since the visit was short. Or maybe you weren't there, you just mentioned it for the sake of it.
                        What is paradoxical is that the most effective remedy for lice, DDT, was hastily banned in the USSR and in all seriousness in the 80s they suggested treating lice with kerosene! The recommendations of the Ministry of Health suggested treating with kerosene!
                      6. +2
                        16 September 2025 22: 08
                        Hepatitis in the 40th Army was an enemy worse than "spirits". The most famous case: "...At the end of 1981, a hepatitis epidemic literally swept over our units: in the 5th Motorized Rifle Division alone, about three thousand people were sick at the same time, that is, every fourth soldier. All the deputies and almost all the regiment commanders were sick along with me. Only the division chief of staff, Colonel M. Strelnikov, held out, but hepatitis felled him, though a little later. The division was practically incapable of combat and could not fight." (c) from the memoirs of B.V. Gromov
                  2. +1
                    13 September 2025 00: 12
                    Well, how can I say, cheating in rear supply has always been there, but in the 80s-2000s it reached its extreme scale, and even now people supply their own
            2. 0
              13 September 2025 19: 31
              Hepatitis comes in different forms... viral, alcoholic, etc... [media=http://]
      2. 0
        12 September 2025 12: 40
        Quote: victor50
        Over 10 years of study, not only in the classroom, but also at school, there was not a single case.

        and did anyone check?

        At the institute, a group of people were sent to donate blood. They took tests for hepatitis A and B antibodies. A third of the group had antibodies, no one was obviously sick and had not suspected anything before.
        Later, I couldn’t give blood transfusions to my children because of this Australian antigen...
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 16: 34
          That's true. But still, when it's obvious, it's a different option.
        2. 0
          13 September 2025 07: 39
          Quote: Olgovich
          and did anyone check?

          And where people got sick regularly, there was, of course, a modern level of research on schoolchildren?! lol
          1. 0
            13 September 2025 11: 18
            Quote: victor50
            And where people got sick regularly, there was, of course, a modern level of research on schoolchildren?!

            Probably, they did more research.

            By the way, when I donated blood, there was nothing disposable, and when I first donated blood, they didn’t take any tests for antibodies, maybe that’s when I picked up the antigen...
    2. 0
      16 September 2025 03: 28
      Tell these tales to us, Soviet schoolchildren. At least 1 person in the class per year fell ill with hepatitis.


      "And what about me! Did I study abroad?" (C) 72 meters.
      I didn't see hepatitis during my time at school and college. But there were annual deaths and serious injuries. My school was located between the Volga, the railroad, Tmaka, a shooting range and a military unit. And factories, sawmills, construction sites... Usually, obituaries were posted at the beginning of September...
  6. +4
    12 September 2025 06: 23
    It is noteworthy that over the centuries-long history, all the epidemics from which people died en masse in Russia, came to Russia either from "civilized" Europe or through it, but not vice versa. I do not mean quarantine situations with the flu or something similar within the limits of some specific city. No one has been immune for centuries from an outbreak of dysentery in some locality, but I can already see those who have memorized the poem "Farewell, unwashed Russia" rubbing their hands with joy. I want to immediately upset them that the author is still unknown, that it was not Lermontov, it has long been proven, and the image of "unwashed" Russia in it is completely collective and is not at all about the lack of Russian baths or hygiene ...
    If they look from the present time about how we "survived" in childhood in the Soviet era, then, of course, it is difficult to understand. Then you fell off your bike and your whole leg was covered in blood, then the wound dried up and no bandages. You picked up an apple from the grass in the garden, wiped it with your hands and eat it, and there was no poisoning for you. In the forest in the summer, eat unwashed blueberries or raspberries - also no poisoning!!! As for the food in factory canteens and as for food products in Soviet grocery stores, then the concept of a product with an expired shelf life was completely absent. For this, they put you straight in jail if someone in the canteen or in the store tried to feed you with an expired product or tried to sell an expired product. Well, when the fashion has come from the West to shove a hundred preservatives into products so that the products can be sold within a few months, then no bathhouse or hygiene will help ... "it will pass." I remember the Soviet beer "Zhigulevskoe" and "Leningradskoe" that I drank in Leningrad during the Soviet era. There was a shortage of beer because its shelf life was only three days!!! Compared to today's beer, which has a shelf life of up to 12 months, Soviet beer was beer, and modern beer is a set of chemicals! Well, if such a modern weakened organism is also sent some "foreign" epidemic like this coronavirus, then the outcome of such an epidemic is clear, although Russian epidemiologists are very competent and tried their best to quickly overcome the epidemic ...
    1. + 11
      12 September 2025 08: 02
      I remember the Soviet beer "Zhigulevskoe" and "Leningradskoe" that I drank in Leningrad during the Soviet era. There was a shortage of beer because its shelf life was only three days!!! Compared to today's beer, which has a shelf life of up to 12 months, Soviet beer was beer, and modern beer is a set of chemicals!

      What are you saying, now the youth will start talking about brewing beer and craft breweries. But real beer is not brewed, wort is brewed, and beer must ferment and gain alcohol by fermenting brewer's yeast, for example, Zhigulevskoe according to GOST must ferment for at least 30 days, gaining up to 3,2% alcohol... Now the minimum is 4%. Leningradskoe was strong and matured for about 50 days. And now they have learned to create flavor and blend with potato alcohol. Imagine, hop plantations have disappeared in Chuvashia, no brewery owner needs hops anymore. I would like to address the forum members. Don't drink "beer" - it's not beer, it's a scam. Previously, the capacity of breweries was determined by the area of ​​the basements where the beer matured, in oak barrels or in stainless steel tanks for further bottling. The shelf life of live Zhigulevskoye beer was 7 days.
      1. +2
        12 September 2025 13: 13
        Comrades, well, hops are imported now. Although Chuvashia has our hops. But in general, they say that its consumer properties are not very good. There is Buket Chuvashii beer, there is the Lyskovsky plant, they make Riga beer, there is the Lida brewery (Lida, Republic of Belarus) they sell a line of Zhigulevskoye, there is Zhitnoye (Zhytnae) beer. Those in the know say that in terms of style, this is purely USSR beer.
        The Voronezh brewery Tarkos had a line of beer Zhigulevskoe, which was made according to GOSTs of 1930, 47, 66. I don't remember the exact years. It repeated the taste and recipe of Soviet beer
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 16: 43
          When our deputies put forward the idea of ​​labeling - beer or beer drink, the producers shouted that they always have beer. This was 10 years ago. And then the initiating deputy said that the hops were 100% imported (at that time). And the customs data said that this hops was enough for 10% of the beer market.
          So, big hello to beer lovers!
          1. 0
            12 September 2025 18: 22
            That's why we beer lovers drink German beer. winked
            And about beer drinks. Well, this word began to be used to refer to everything beer, which contains something other than hops, malt and water. But the Belgian monks, as they did 900 years ago, still make Hoegaarden with coriander and zest. And they don’t know that it’s not beer, but a beer drink.
            As for Russian beer, beer is a water-based drink. And it is not surprising that Baltika was tastier in 1990 than in 2025. Perhaps it was artesian water before, and now it is filtered. Naturally, the taste is different.
            1. 0
              13 September 2025 00: 17
              No, not Baltika in 90, no...I recently decided to try 3 with "that taste" - definitely that taste - soapy, the taste of wild drunkenness...
    2. 0
      12 September 2025 12: 27
      The oldest strain of plague - the parent of all modern strains - was found near Samara.
    3. +4
      12 September 2025 16: 39
      Okay, enough of telling fairy tales. I worked as a loader in a trust of restaurants and canteens on the railway. They supplied the restaurant, cafes and dining cars. The handling of products was far from any sanitary standards. Needless to say, now there is a strict requirement to pack products for everyone and always. But back then, throwing meat on a street cart that was never washed and on which everything was carried was the order of the day. There was simply no other option.
    4. +1
      16 September 2025 03: 34
      Pick up an apple from the grass in the garden, wipe it with your hands and eat it, and you won’t get poisoned.

      Only without hands!
      The apple was wiped on the back of the pants! The turnip - on the belly. The carrot was rinsed in a barrel of rainwater... The strawberries... were eaten so well that sometimes the earth creaked between the teeth...
  7. + 10
    12 September 2025 07: 28
    There was not so much chemistry in our lives, natural products. Children spent a lot of time outside, accordingly they were hardened and got sick less, and did not sit on the Internet. The seasons were more pronounced - winter, which meant winter with frosts and snowfalls, summer also lived up to its name. And also universal vaccinations at school, we called them "scratches". Vaccinations were carried out regularly and there was no way to avoid this procedure.
    1. +8
      12 September 2025 08: 20
      They forgot to write about the grass and salt.
      There was a passion for pyrotechnics among particularly curious little people: "I know safety precautions like the back of my hand"
    2. +8
      12 September 2025 09: 04
      Perhaps there was a different attitude towards vaccinations. Academician Chumakov, having created a vaccine against poliomyelitis, first of all vaccinated his sons.
      1. +8
        12 September 2025 09: 23
        Catherine II also set an example for her subjects by being vaccinated against smallpox. We had confidence in vaccinations, no one doubted their usefulness. It was only after perestroika that there was confusion and hesitation in terms of vaccinations, and there were refusals.
        1. +8
          12 September 2025 09: 42
          In the spring of 1980 in Afghanistan we were given a large number of vaccinations: against malaria, typhus, cholera, plague, hepatitis. But many people still got hepatitis; I drank some water and caught it, no pantocide helped. My gunner-operator got typhus immediately after returning home. But in general, of course, these army vaccinations help, I think, to this day.
          1. +7
            12 September 2025 10: 21
            Before our combat service in Africa in 1978, we also got a bunch of vaccinations. In principle, everything was fine, but there was one thing. At one point, the forward quarters became a hospital. I also ended up there, suddenly felt dizzy, lost consciousness and fell. I woke up from hitting my head, they carried me up the ladder and hit my head on the handrails. They brought me to the forward quarters, where there were already plenty of people like me. Everyone had similar symptoms, a fever for some time, after a few days everything passed. We were not told what it was. There were no such cases on the ship later.
            1. +6
              12 September 2025 10: 45
              I felt dizzy and had a fever for several days - this is most likely the body's reaction to the vaccination. My friend got vaccinated against COVID-19 during the quarantine and after some time collapsed on the floor in his kitchen. His arms and legs gave out completely, but, according to him, he was aware of everything: who he was, where he was, but he was practically paralyzed. After some time, it let up a little, and he crawled on his knees to the sofa and lay down. The next day, he went to the clinic with a question - was it the vaccination? He says that they twisted him, turned him, checked him, examined him and gave a verdict: you are tired, you need to rest. Later, I got a certificate for the vaccination; at that moment, it was necessary. In a conversation with the doctor, I asked if the vaccination could have affected my friend in this way. The answer was that this was precisely the side effect of this vaccination: blood clots appeared. I asked the doctor if their doctors give vaccinations? She answered that most do. That is, the version that I designed was sort of done.
              1. +2
                12 September 2025 11: 54
                Interesting article, thank you. I got vaccinated against Covid in December 2021. Before that I was dodging, but I wore a mask, gloves and at the same time smeared myself with oxolinic ointment and some other fragrant balms. laughing And the work is not sedentary, but either in transport, or on the street, or in the office... yes, it’s boring.
                It's cool to eat in a mask. laughing I remembered recourse But even more fun are dates love .If the girlfriend has a sense of humor. In a mask, in gloves. wink
              2. +2
                12 September 2025 11: 59
                At the same time, he had a hard time with the vaccination itself, he was sick for a whole month and the second time was also hard the second time after 3 months. And a year later he got sick with covid with stomach symptoms, the analysis showed, but without a cough
            2. 0
              12 September 2025 18: 56
              I think it's Legionnaires' disease. Legionella. I caught the same thing in the mid-00s. They said it was from a dirty air conditioner in my car. Who knows.
          2. +1
            12 September 2025 12: 28
            As in the old joke: and now these vaccinations have worked laughing
  8. + 11
    12 September 2025 07: 48
    I remember an episode of going to a small cafe for a quick snack: the cashier categorically refused to scan the amount until I put on a gauze mask. When I asked how I should eat in a mask, the answer was that I can only take off this mask during the process of eating, after which I must immediately put it back on. The psychosis grew with each passing day...

    Psychosis and insanity have manifested themselves in full measure in the top management.
    At the airport, in the check-in line, you had to stand one and a half meters apart, keep your distance, and on the plane I was already sitting shoulder to shoulder with whoever I was standing in line with. In Moscow, they banned walking along the central alley of the boulevards, you had to walk along the narrow sidewalks along the houses... there is no respect for these "smart" people.
    1. +1
      12 September 2025 12: 03
      Yes, there were squabbles in the metro and buses. Since everything changed then, I started calling a taxi. I learned about the city from other angles, since it was a ring road. But the trips were not every day, so it was possible. And the work was piecework.
    2. +2
      13 September 2025 12: 52
      It was a "rehearsal". And let's be honest, it went SUPER SUCCESSFULLY. The Belarusians and Swedes were left alone for a "representative sample".

      Off-topic. The plague was going to Baghdad for the "harvest". I'll take 5000, she said to the Righteous Man. She comes back. The Righteous Man reproaches her: "Liar! You took 50!" She replies: "Everything is FAIR! You took 000, as you promised, the rest died of fear themselves"...
  9. -5
    12 September 2025 08: 15
    The author of the small quarantine measures "Oh, I'm not comfortable in a mask" presents it as a global tragedy.
    During the epidemic, about a dozen elderly people in our building were taken away by ambulance and did not return home.
    1. +8
      12 September 2025 09: 31
      Are you seriously talking about this gauze petal, for which people were fined, their arms were twisted and psychosis was whipped up, as a serious fight against the disease? Elderly people who did not return home died from what: from this virus or from failure to provide medical care for their illnesses - have you not thought about this?
      1. +4
        12 September 2025 10: 06
        That's why the killer argument was the argument was to protect the wearer of the mask from infection with the virus, I don't get it. The mask prevented the virus carrier from spreading the infection when talking, sneezing and coughing, and the mask delayed airborne spread. . From the very beginning they warned that quite a lot, especially among young people, have no symptoms when infected. Egoism is on the march.
        .
        1. -1
          12 September 2025 14: 25
          Quote: Sensor
          The mask prevented the virus carrier from spreading the infection when talking, sneezing and coughing, and the mask delayed airborne transmission.
          What nonsense. The mask simply changed the direction of the exhalation, I have glasses, I literally saw it. I put the mask on - the glasses fog up.
          Quote: Sensor
          Egoism is on the march.
          Well, who will take care of you, only yourself.
          1. +2
            12 September 2025 14: 50
            Do not confuse condensation of water vapor on a colder glass with micro-splatters of saliva.
            The monitor is periodically wiped from dust and if you do not use liquid cleaners, you will find spots on the screen.
      2. +7
        12 September 2025 12: 28
        Quote: Vladimir_Kuznetsov
        Are you serious about this gauze petal?

        He really helped. First of all, he helped a sick person with a bandage on his face not to infect healthy people.
        1. +2
          12 September 2025 14: 32
          And when a person walked around in a balaclava or wrapped in a scarf, and the police, the controlling authorities, demanded that he take it off and put on a real barrier against any terrible disease - a gauze petal? Perhaps, after all, the issue was not about carrying an infection, but there were other motives for these restrictions, to put it mildly?
          1. +5
            12 September 2025 14: 43
            Quote: Vladimir_Kuznetsov
            Perhaps, after all, the issue is not about carrying the infection, but there were other motives for these restrictions, to put it mildly?

            I don't know. But I know for sure that if you put a cotton-gauze bandage on the face of a sick person (with flu or covid), it greatly reduces the possibility of infecting others. And this means that during a pandemic, this measure is effective.

            I had covid (double pneumonia). I was seriously ill. I don't want to anymore. That's why I'm for any means of protection, if there are any.
          2. 0
            12 September 2025 14: 52
            Were there other motives for these restrictions, to put it mildly?

            It was normal to enter the bank wearing gloves and a mask.
          3. +2
            12 September 2025 21: 31
            Make a fool pray to God - he will break his forehead. The issue of the specific organization of quarantine measures in our current society depends not only on the virus, the society itself greatly influences it. I seriously doubt that in the same China the entire population was massively looking for conspiracies of the world elites and thinking about how to f*** the system, wearing anything but medical masks.
        2. +4
          12 September 2025 14: 33
          During that period, many were convinced that a virus had suddenly appeared and then suddenly disappeared. There were people who sincerely believed that nothing like this had ever happened before and that humanity had not encountered similar situations in the past.
          However, there are those who claim that this was a global experiment, orchestrated by what is sometimes called a “world government” or “behind-the-scenes power groups.” Unfortunately, this experiment was somewhat successful.
          The success was in sowing fear on the planet, which forced many people to act in a uniform manner, without thinking about the necessity of such actions. Moreover, it succeeded in forcing the elites and governments of many countries to make decisions without even thinking about their expediency.
          In addition, transnational pharmaceutical companies made colossal amounts of money.
          The digitalization project of the entire world has advanced far ahead. Against the backdrop of quarantine and mass fear, a significant step has been taken towards integrating digital technologies into the social sphere and economy. This has also affected production processes and methods of population control. It would be completely useless to deny this process: in fact, a phenomenon has occurred that limits people's freedom.
          1. +3
            12 September 2025 18: 33
            It is possible that there was an element of control and management of the masses in this, but the coronavirus disappeared like a textbook. Like the epidemic of other viruses, in 3-3,5 years. Here either its mutation and adaptation of the species to it, or the virus wins and kills the entire or almost the entire population.
            On the other hand, everyone (except Alexander Grigorievich) got scared and introduced serious restrictions. Father Lukashenko acted differently. Almost the only one in the world.
            1. +3
              12 September 2025 19: 36
              Belarus, it seems, is not a member of WHO. Russia, however, is present in all globalist structures, strange as it may be. It is strange, because the country's leadership declares its opposition to those guys. But in fact, we are in WHO, WTO, IMF, and we fulfill all the conditions and requirements of these organizations created to govern the world.
        3. 0
          12 September 2025 19: 58
          Quote: Stas157
          He really helped. First of all, he helped a sick person with a bandage on his face not to infect healthy people.
          How? The virus is smaller than the mask cell. You need a respirator there, and not just any kind, the simplest ones didn't help either.
          1. +4
            13 September 2025 08: 01
            Quote: bk0010
            How? The virus is smaller than the mask cell.

            Reducing the spread distance. A mask (any) dampens the air flow. As a result, a sick person does not breathe on you. Does not sneeze or cough.
          2. 0
            13 September 2025 19: 44
            Think about these arguments about the size of the virus and the mask. Viruses have neither legs nor arms. And it doesn't look like a snake either.
            1. -1
              13 September 2025 22: 21
              Quote: MCmaximus
              Think about these arguments about the size of the virus and the mask.
              That is, there is nothing to argue.
              Quote: MCmaximus
              Viruses have neither legs nor arms. And they don't look like snakes either.
              What did you want to say? The size of the molecules of exhaled gases is even smaller.
              1. +1
                13 September 2025 22: 40
                Quote: bk0010
                The size of the molecules of exhaled gases is even smaller

                Phew...you're difficult.

                COVID-19 is spread primarily through the air, through inhalation of respiratory droplets produced by an infected person, such as when they cough or sneeze, or through droplets of saliva or nasal secretions.

                A mask, any mask, holds back these drops. Is that clearer?
              2. +2
                14 September 2025 07: 16
                Well, I'll think about it for you.
                The area of ​​the holes in the mask does not correspond to the area of ​​the mask. And the air flows around the mask. It is not a pipe where liquid or gas has nowhere to go and everything that is smaller than the hole in the filter will squeeze through. Therefore, a large percentage of viruses will simply settle on the surface of the mask. Especially from the inside, where it is damp. And it will not crawl anywhere further.
                In addition, the direct flow of inhaled or exhaled air is almost completely inhibited.
      3. +4
        12 September 2025 15: 07

        Elderly people who did not return home died from what: from this virus or from failure to provide medical care for their illnesses

        My mother-in-law died from Covid, my wife received the first group of disability after eight months in the hospital and now actively uses a concentrator. I myself could not eat boiled meat for almost a year, my taste and sense of smell were distorted.
        Are you serious about this gauze petal?

        Don't engage in profanation.
        "On the effectiveness of using personal protective equipment (PPE) in the spread of acute respiratory viral infections"

        Wearing a medical mask reduced the likelihood of contracting various respiratory infections by 1,8 times, using gloves - by 1,3 times. In the presence of contact with patients with acute respiratory infections, wearing a medical mask reduced the likelihood of infection by pathogens by 1,8 times, using gloves reduced the likelihood of infection by 2,7 times

        https://44.rospotrebnadzor.ru/profilaktika_infekci/4288/
    2. +1
      12 September 2025 12: 06
      Quote: Sensor
      ...... During the epidemic, about a dozen elderly people in our building were taken away by ambulance and did not return home.

      Some elderly people were very punctual and had several vaccinations. And then they died. They said something like that about Zhirinovsky. He had four vaccinations and got sick.
      1. +3
        12 September 2025 12: 43
        Among my acquaintances, no one had several vaccinations in a row. Moreover, you had to look hard to find people who behaved like Zhirinovsky.
        1. 0
          12 September 2025 13: 00
          I know about some that they did it several times. But they didn't advertise it. There is a close circle of acquaintances and a distant one. I'll PM you right now hi
        2. +1
          12 September 2025 15: 55
          People did not get these 4 vaccinations right away, of course, but after six months and then got seriously ill. Some died after the fourth, like Zhirinovsky or my relative. Or my mother's vegetarian friend. She was told that she should eat meat, more protein, then antibodies would form better. She did not believe it.
      2. +2
        12 September 2025 18: 36
        Zhirinovsky had about 9 vaccinations. Different manufacturers. I don't know if it's true or not.
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 18: 44
          Who knows what the situations are like at that level? recourse after all, at first the higher-ups were somehow in the front ranks, someone took some place in some queue, someone got in through connections... they listed such people from ECHO OF MOSCOW. Now I don't remember a single name. Somehow they chose by manufacturing companies.
          And what about us? I got vaccinated and had a mild ARI for a month. And my mother had a mild ARI for a week. After 3 months they said she needed a second vaccination. The situation repeated itself with us. My mother's test didn't show Covid, and then we found out that it happens that it can't be determined. request
  10. +7
    12 September 2025 08: 16
    Why weren't Soviet citizens afraid of viruses and germs?

    The chemical and pharmaceutical industry was not privately owned, did not pursue profits, and worked to meet the real needs of the population.
    1. -1
      12 September 2025 12: 11
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      Why weren't Soviet citizens afraid of viruses and germs?"......

      I don’t know such details about the Soviet era.
      But the real mess started with the cooperative stalls or cafes! That's what! What kind of hygiene and hand washing is there? Or toilets? HORRIBLE. And what kind of bags does the bread come in at these stalls? None. And who worked there.
    2. +4
      12 September 2025 18: 48
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      The chemical and pharmaceutical industry was not privately owned, did not pursue profits, and worked to meet the real needs of the population.

      And they simply churn out the same thing - the classic "Medicines" by Mashkovsky - both in the first edition and in the 10th - the same drugs, despite the devil knows how many years have passed.
      And cocarboxylase and no-shpa for grandma - which are now available in any pharmacy - were obtained through twenty hands...
    3. 0
      13 September 2025 19: 48
      Well, let's not talk about medicines... I remember how in childhood and later we looked for some medicines. For example, simple levomycetin. I don't remember anymore, but now it is considered almost dangerous.
      The availability of pharmaceuticals is now such that we could not even dream of it before. And the type of government and ownership of the means of production does not matter. Just progress.
  11. +5
    12 September 2025 08: 25
    Today's residents, who grew up in conditions of increased sanitation and observe, for example, the picture of food preparation without due attention to hygiene, are indignant and indignant. They are irritated by the way food products are packaged, using gloves repeatedly or not observing hygiene rules at food enterprises.

    Nobody used to sell health certificates like that. All catering workers regularly underwent medical examinations. People didn't go into catering from the street, but from educational institutions. And they were taught hygiene rules from kindergarten.
  12. + 11
    12 September 2025 08: 36
    Why weren't they afraid? Because they didn't scare us, they warned us scientifically. It wasn't just scientists who fought infections. Remember how we were taught from a young age to wash our hands before eating and after using the toilet? And no mommy's "no" during vaccinations and inoculations? And spoiled products could be easily identified by color, appearance and smell without testing. And now, because of dyes, substitutes and flavorings, you can easily get poisoned by rotten meat and other things. In general, we observed personal hygiene, got vaccinated and monitored the quality of our food. And, I repeat, no one scared us with the apocalypse.
  13. +6
    12 September 2025 09: 29
    "...and put the string bag with bread on a bench, or even on the ground..." I don't know what kind of pigs these are. And in the store, by the way, near the bread shelves there were special forks for taking bread. True, the saleswomen watched so that stupid, impudent aunties (of those who probably put the string bag with bread on the ground) did not climb with their hands to feel the softness of the bread.
    1. +4
      12 September 2025 10: 42
      And in the store, by the way, near the bread shelves there were special forks for taking bread. True, the saleswomen watched so that stupid, impudent aunties (of those who probably put the string bag with bread on the ground) did not climb with their hands to feel the softness of the bread.

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++
    2. +3
      12 September 2025 10: 48
      Quote: Alexander Trebuntsev
      By the way, in the store, near the bread shelves there were special forks for picking up bread

      In Moscow - maybe, and not everywhere. 50 km from Moscow, an academic town, practically 1970s. And no forks. There is no talk about the villages around Yes
      1. 0
        12 September 2025 20: 35
        Well, no need. A small town of 20 residents. One supermarket. There in the bakery there were such cool pokes on a chain that I still want to have one. Thick stainless steel. In the small shops where the sellers served bread there was of course nothing like that.
        1. -1
          12 September 2025 20: 41
          Quote: garri-lin
          One Supermarket

          I'm laughing. I wrote about the 70s, a supermarket, in those days? I don't remember. request
          1. 0
            12 September 2025 20: 52
            I'm writing about 82 or 83. And these little girls were always there until the very end.
            1. 0
              12 September 2025 20: 53
              Quote: garri-lin
              I'm writing

              I noticed. You answered off-topic and questioned what I wrote. That's not good, colleague.
              1. -1
                12 September 2025 21: 10
                Okay. On topic. Supermarkets started to be built in 1970. They differed from department stores by their self-service system. Where those same forks and spoons we are talking about are needed in the bakery departments.
                In shops where bread was served by sellers, those forks were unnecessary.
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                2. 0
                  13 September 2025 12: 10
                  Quote: garri-lin
                  In shops where bread was served by sellers, those forks were unnecessary.

                  Oh yeah. And there were also shops where the sellers didn't serve bread. And without forks.

                  But the internet doesn't know about this, of course. Yes
    3. +7
      12 September 2025 12: 46
      Quote: Alexander Trebuntsev
      And in the store, by the way, near the bread shelves there were special forks for picking up bread.


      A two-pronged fork or spoon. In the bread department, they either lay in plastic "pockets" screwed to the racks between the shelves with bread, or hung on a rope or chain. However, in the pocket, the fork was also on a leash - so that customers would not automatically take it with them.
      1. +1
        12 September 2025 15: 47
        Quote: Paranoid62
        no forks. There is no talk about the villages around

        Quote: Alexey RA
        Two-pronged fork or spoon

        Even in our ass of the world there was a two-pronged fork on a chain in "Khleb" (Bread), in ordinary stores - it often happened that alcoholics tore it off the string - you can't have a "tourist's breakfast" without a spoon or fork lol
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 15: 58
          I heard that people were just happy with these forks. Teenagers especially laughing
          1. +2
            12 September 2025 16: 01
            Quote: Reptiloid
            I heard that people were just happy with these forks. Teenagers especially laughing

            I don't know what the joy is - if it's noticeably bigger than usual and all two teeth. Drunkards moved their teeth together - what to cling to a snack
            1. +2
              12 September 2025 16: 10
              Quote: your1970
              .....
              I don’t know what the joy is - if it’s noticeably bigger than usual and all two teeth...

              There is no romance in you!
    4. 0
      13 September 2025 19: 51
      If only you knew in what conditions the bread was loaded and transported in trays. And how those trays were stored...
      It would be better to put the string bag somewhere else.
  14. -1
    12 September 2025 09: 46
    Look for who benefits(c).
    Someone makes a huge income from this.
  15. +5
    12 September 2025 10: 03
    In the southern resorts during the Soviet era, infectious diseases like dysentery and even cholera regularly broke out. However, the epidemiological service undoubtedly worked very effectively. The outbreaks were quickly contained. And there was no unnecessary noise in the media. We were not worried because we were sure that we would be protected from any infection. And so it was.
    1. +1
      12 September 2025 20: 38
      And now in the south people periodically suffer from drestochondria. Either from local wine or unripe fruits. And in the 80s I remember in half the cases they suffered from their own intemperance.
  16. +6
    12 September 2025 10: 46
    Quote: Village
    Nobody used to sell health certificates like that. All catering workers regularly underwent medical examinations. People didn't go into catering from the street, but from educational institutions. And they were taught hygiene rules from kindergarten.
    Plus, the cooks and everyone who came into contact with the food during its preparation did not have their hair down, but wore chef's hats. And the cooks and cooks were most often local. And now, no matter what food service establishment you visit, the people standing at the stoves are Tajiks, Kirghiz, or Uzbeks. Who the hell knows what they are. And the cleaners of the same nationalities have one bucket and one rag for all types of work - washing floors and wiping tables.
    1. +5
      12 September 2025 12: 14
      I saw how in the food courts of the Tajik shopping mall they wipe all the chairs and tables with the same rag and I didn't go there. They don't wipe, they smear dirty drops.
      1. 0
        12 September 2025 13: 40
        So they are not accustomed to cleanliness.
    2. +5
      12 September 2025 15: 50
      Quote: Seal
      Quote: Village
      Nobody used to sell health certificates like that. All catering workers regularly underwent medical examinations. People didn't go into catering from the street, but from educational institutions. And they were taught hygiene rules from kindergarten.
      Plus, the cooks and everyone who came into contact with the food during its preparation did not have their hair down, but wore chef's hats. And the cooks and cooks were most often local. And now, no matter what food service establishment you visit, the people standing at the stoves are Tajiks, Kirghiz, or Uzbeks. Who the hell knows what they are. And the cleaners of the same nationalities have one bucket and one rag for all types of work - washing floors and wiping tables.

      When I was a student at the dumpling shop on Trubnaya Square in Moscow, I would only order dumplings with vinegar. A fellow student's mother worked there as a cook, so I know some of the piquant details of Soviet public catering
      1. +1
        12 September 2025 16: 07
        with vinegar!!!

        I heard about it from my relatives! And also sausages or frankfurters simply with vinegar and mustard. And beer! And vodka! In the bathhouse on Malaya Raznochinnaya. The military went there on certain days. Soldiers, cadets, officers. Those who had them --- with their families. There used to be no baths or hot water in the apartments there. Few had --- gas water heaters. My grandfather and everyone who lived there went to this bathhouse. And my relatives. While the aunts washed the little ones --- the husbands ate this food and washed it down on marble tables. Touching. I went to this bathhouse out of interest. Even though I don’t live nearby. After - revolutionary constructivism. The end of the 20s
        1. +2
          12 September 2025 17: 17
          Quote: Reptiloid
          I heard about this from my family! And also sausages or frankfurters just with vinegar and mustard.

          Everything is much simpler - vinegar cost 3 kopecks a bucket and the cooks did not steal it, but they carried butter and sour cream home - and for this they poured it off the visitors' plates remains sour cream and butter into a saucepan - from where they then poured the so-called "butter" next.
          It goes without saying that the uneaten dumplings went into the pot with the new ones, it’s just that she knew us and served us from a separate, her own pot.
          Well, plus vinegar - although it's weak, it's still a disinfectant, so it's not that bad...
          1. 0
            12 September 2025 17: 23
            Quote: your1970
            ......Everything is much simpler - vinegar cost 3 kopecks a bucket and the cooks didn't steal it, but they carried butter and sour cream home - and for this they poured it off the visitors' plates remains sour cream and butter into a saucepan - from where they then poured the so-called "butter" next.
            It goes without saying that the uneaten dumplings went into the pot with the new ones, it’s just that she knew us and served us from a separate, her own pot.
            Well, plus vinegar - although it's weak, it's still a disinfectant, so it's not that bad...

            I don't believe about these scraps because in the USSR everyone ate everything, didn't throw anything away or leave anything, and what was absolutely uneatable --- they took with them. And they even tried to take free bread from the canteen. And relatives had coupons for the canteen and they took everything and brought it home. Everyone saved everything, and drinking people also saved.
          2. +4
            12 September 2025 17: 26
            It was she who scared you, teased you, to increase her authority in front of you. And you didn't understand. So you became a malicious anti-Soviet, as you said about yourself earlier.
            1. +2
              12 September 2025 18: 29
              1)
              Quote: Reptiloid
              I don’t believe about these leftovers because in the USSR everyone ate everything, didn’t throw anything away or leave anything, and what was absolutely inedible --- they took with them.
              Since you didn't live in the USSR, I'll remind you that wash Cellophane bags were introduced in the 1990s. until this - they simply did not exist. They were packaged in bags paper and bags.
              Finish eating dumplings that were boiled in a common pan for 1-1,5 hours to destroy the difference between uneaten and fresh - you won't be able to because of their stiffness.

              2)
              Quote: Reptiloid
              It was she who scared you, teased you, to increase her authority in front of you. And you didn't understand.
              - You can make fun of idiots. But when you like each other, it's unlikely.
              And yes, her mother took away 2 kg of butter every day - your share!!! - I sold some to my neighbors, and exchanged some for food with my friend, a cook from a sausage shop on Sadovy Boulevard.
              1. +5
                12 September 2025 18: 36
                dumplings ........ were boiled ...... 1,5 -2 hours ......

                What planet is this? laughing You try to do this and see what happens.
                1. +2
                  12 September 2025 19: 00
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  dumplings ........ were boiled ...... 1,5 -2 hours ......

                  What planet is this? laughing You try to do this and see what happens.

                  For you - I kept pigs, chickens, ducks for about 40 years. I have been helping to make pelmeni all my life. Right now, I have 3 boxes in my 8-chamber freezer filled with homemade pelmeni.
                  I know what will happen to HOMEMADE dumplings after an hour of cooking.
                  Soviet canteen dumplings simply became soggy after an hour of cooking and that was it.
                  They were not made for food, but for the purpose of planning and concealing what was stolen during their production.
                  And citizens were put in their place when they tried speak the formula "Why are you so smart? If you don't like it, don't eat it, or eat what you were given!!" (c)
              2. -2
                12 September 2025 20: 03
                You are mistaken. Polyethylene bags were washed in the 80s in the USSR. Regular polyethylene bags would break and lunches would be collected in milk bags and other strong ones. And they would be washed. Our mother would wash milk bags and hang them out to dry on a line in the kitchen. And it was in the 90s that more or less strong bags appeared on the market.
                1. +1
                  12 September 2025 20: 23
                  Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                  You are mistaken. Polyethylene bags were washed in the 80s in the USSR. Regular polyethylene bags would break and lunches would be collected in milk bags and other strong ones. And they would be washed. Our mother would wash milk bags and hang them out to dry on a line in the kitchen. And it was in the 90s that more or less strong bags appeared on the market.

                  In Moscow and large cities, milk "pyramids" were probably used - we didn't have them, so I don't know if they were suitable for anything. I had in mind the much more convenient rectangular milk-kefir packages of the late 1980s.
                  They were used en masse for seedlings, including by my mother-in-law.
              3. -1
                12 September 2025 20: 12
                No, no, there were bags before the 90s. I remember my grandmother sending different parcels. There was some kind of jam in the bags. And other things. These bags were saved, they were also needed to close jars. That's it. The cons are not mine
      2. +1
        12 September 2025 20: 31
        At the dumpling house on Trubnaya Square

        Hello! This one? There was a glass-house-*cheburechnaya* on Trubnaya, then the House of Political Education was built in its place, but the *Pelmennaya* was still on Tsvetnoy! hi
        1. +1
          12 September 2025 20: 40
          No-no-no, that's what it was called in our technical school - but in fact it was on Tsvetnoy, naturally. There was a grocery store on the corner of the boulevards, and it was 2-3 houses away from it in the direction of the Circus. We went there from 3-Kolobovsky Lane.
          She was in an old building.
          And the sausage shop was on Sadovaya next to Petrovka
          1. +1
            13 September 2025 08: 15
            We walked there from 3-Kolobovsky Lane.

            An interesting place, former Znamenskie lanes, Streletskaya Sloboda. If my memory serves me right, there was the Topographical Polytechnic, right? hi
            1. +2
              13 September 2025 10: 53
              Quote: ArchiPhil
              If my memory serves me right, there was a Topographical Polytechnic there, right?

              Doesn't change lol - in the buildings of the former transit prison. The building had a very unique architecture - specifically prison architecture.
              Now it seems to be the data center of the Moscow State Traffic Inspectorate
              1. +1
                13 September 2025 11: 07
                in the buildings of the former transit prison.

                That's right, the Sretensky prison of the NKVD, and before that the police station of the same name, and before that the house of the merchant Skornyakov. hi
                1. +1
                  13 September 2025 11: 17
                  Quote: ArchiPhil
                  in the buildings of the former transit prison.

                  That's right, the Sretensky prison of the NKVD, and before that the police station of the same name, and before that the house of the merchant Skornyakov. hi

                  The pink building in the photo had nothing to do with the technical school, I don’t remember what was there - the technical school started from the gates deep on the left where the minibus is parked.
                  There was a "light technical school" nearby lol - where I first heard "the march of a cavalry regiment" on the concrete. The heels on the shoes were iron and when their technician tumbled out after classes - the clatter was truly cavalry
        2. +1
          13 September 2025 16: 54
          hmm, I just looked at your photo carefully. And I remembered "Tabak" and "Morozhennoye" - before that I had the feeling that the sidewalk was empty from Pelmennaya to Produkty on the corner. And yes, in the Pelmennaya there were 2 steps down - that's why I had the feeling in my memory that there was some kind of a semi-basement - and in the photo it's a normal first floor.
          Memory is a strange thing - I remember the face of my classmate and the cook, but her mother, kill me...
          1. -1
            13 September 2025 17: 17
            "Tobacco" and "Ice Cream"

            My memories of those places, Sergey, are mainly associated with *Cheburechnaya* and the corner grocery store. laughing My God, what wonderful milkshakes they made there! This is, of course, without taking into account trips to *Mir*, the old circus and, of course, the Central Market and that unique smell of saltiness that reigned in the building! bully
            1. 0
              13 September 2025 19: 14
              Quote: ArchiPhil
              of course, to the Central Market and that unique smell of saltiness that reigned in the building!

              The central (Armenian) market is a powerhouse, the smells there were truly divine.
              Or maybe it was us - the unspoiled ones - who were...
  17. 0
    12 September 2025 10: 57
    Why, why?
    Because in a capitalist country everything, including vaccinations for children at school, is a business interest.
    An agency that has been hit by some disaster for which it is responsible is simply a "Klondike, Eldorado", an increase in ratings, budgets, etc.
    The more the press screams about disasters, pandemics and calamities - the more advertising... etc., as the villain of one movie, a media mogul, said:
    Good news - bad news
    And in that society, in the most difficult material conditions, CARE FOR HUMANS.

    Yes, yes, I myself can give examples of how this slogan was distorted, but what can you do, it often happens: make a fool pray to God, and he will break his forehead.
    But in general - only for this reason.
    P.S. and the glasses were washed thoroughly in the machines - my mother told me this a hundred times when I was a child,
    and there was no need to touch the bread with your hands, there were special forks everywhere.
    It all depended on the level of culture...
    laughing
    1. +3
      12 September 2025 11: 25
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      glasses were washed thoroughly in machines

      Yeah. Sprinkle some cold water and go. The glass is in the machine, and whoever drinks from it. It's much worse now, of course - the glasses are disposable.

      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      and there was no need to touch the bread with your hands, there were special forks everywhere

      A Muscovite, I guess. The country ends beyond the ring road.
      1. 0
        12 September 2025 12: 02
        A Muscovite, I guess. The country ends beyond the ring road.

        Behind the Kremlin wall - if anything... laughing
        1. 0
          12 September 2025 12: 14
          Quote: Edward Vashchenko
          A Muscovite, I guess. The country ends beyond the ring road.

          Behind the Kremlin wall - if anything...

          Well, or something like that. But I don't remember any bread shops in the Kremlin. With forks request laughing
          1. 0
            12 September 2025 12: 16
            But I don't remember any bread shops in the Kremlin. With forks

            And how do you remember? They didn't show anything like that on TV. laughing
            1. 0
              12 September 2025 12: 18
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              And how are you supposed to remember?

              Yes, we are from outside the Moscow Ring Road, we are regional, not local. laughing

              But we've been to the Kremlin, just in case.

              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              They didn't show this on TV

              Well, on TV, they've shown worse things there. laughing
              1. +1
                12 September 2025 15: 43
                Yes, we are from outside the Moscow Ring Road.

                Similarly laughing
    2. +3
      12 September 2025 12: 36
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      glasses were washed thoroughly in machines

      That's how it was. You're washing for yourself! Press the cup at least ten times - no one limits you. We used to hang around these machines as kids. You'd collect half your pocket for just three kopecks and run to those machines. We'd drink as much as we could fit.
      1. 0
        12 September 2025 15: 42
        That's absolutely right. And also, the highest chic, pour in the syrup and skip the water good
        1. 0
          12 September 2025 16: 17
          hi Eduard, greetings! I saw these machines in Soviet films and envied those children.
          But I did see beer from barrels, but it disappeared quickly. And there was also beer from a kiosk. Where it came from from the window --- I didn't understand. Adults stood in lines. These kiosks also disappeared.
          1. 0
            12 September 2025 16: 28
            Dmitry, good afternoon.
            And I remember, of course, when I was a child, there were still beer dispensing machines.
            True, the glasses quickly disappeared there and people drank from half-liter jars.
            In my city I even remember the place where they stood. hi
            1. 0
              12 September 2025 17: 06
              In 91 we returned to Leningrad, I was 6 years old. There was draft beer. We moved to another apartment. I don't remember it being sold in the new buildings here. There were barrels of milk here
              1. +2
                12 September 2025 19: 43
                It seems to me that the last time I drank water from a vending machine was in 1990, in ... Leningrad, after an archaeological practice, somewhere on B. Morskaya, it was a sunny evening...
                1. +1
                  12 September 2025 20: 04
                  And in the Far East in my childhood I did not see soda machines. Of course, in Khabarovsk and Nikolaevsk they were not there for long. But they should 100% be in airports request
            2. +1
              12 September 2025 17: 15
              I remembered today! We have a MUSEUM OF SOVIET SLOTS in St. Petersburg now. In this museum there is a machine for soda water and they give out cups there in cafes and with them a Soviet coin of 3 kopecks. There are milkshakes and ice cream in the cafes, different, but modern
  18. +1
    12 September 2025 10: 59
    In general, viruses and other pathogens are present in nature all the time, and not only during epidemics. A.L. Chizhevsky noticed a pattern back in the last century - these pathogens are activated during periods of solar activity. He has a whole book about this, where he compares observations of solar activity and centuries-old data on epidemics.
    (Chizhevsky A. L. Epidemic catastrophes and periodic activity of the Sun. Moscow, 1930.)
    Now, by the way, we are going through another such period.
  19. +2
    12 September 2025 11: 03
    Quote: Amateur
    In 1970, cholera began in Odessa

    On Deribasovskaya cholera happened -
    She was caught by one b... from a gentleman.
    But God sees everything, he will punish this toad,
    That she gave herself to an Arab in the gateway.

    And because of this female promiscuity
    Cholera is now spreading throughout Preobrazhenskaya.
    They started talking about cholera vibrione
    On Myasoedovskaya, in the port, on Langeron.

    I wish I could live like this, I need this cholera!
    But then the doctors came up with a measure,
    So that in terrible agony we all wouldn’t shit ourselves,
    They assigned us to one of the observation sites.

    No, they didn’t give us any French vaccines,
    They told us to wash our asses with bleach,
    So that we have something funny to say about it,
    Uncle Misha the Water Spirit was brought in with us.

    If I could live like that, what kind of dinner they served us -
    You hardly wanted such a goulash,
    But we received food three times a day -
    What the f... would you want for free!

    Then the doctors took us all into custody,
    They told everyone to take a crap on the newspaper,
    And as Aunt Sonya from Moldavanka said -
    There is no mayonnaise, the jars are gone!

    P.S. I survived three cholera attacks. True, not in Odessa, but on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus. What's interesting is that during these cholera periods, swimming in the sea was prohibited. Aha, they ran away lol
  20. -2
    12 September 2025 11: 09
    They knew how to quickly stop outbreaks of epidemics, they didn't whip up horror through the media, and doctors had a conscience, not like during the Covid madness... Although the reasons for this Covid madness are obvious... But in the 60-70s there were plenty of epidemics locally - outbreaks of smallpox, cholera, anthrax... But here's the secret... If someone would conduct a study on this topic, without bias and politics, it would be very interesting.
  21. -1
    12 September 2025 11: 56
    If a person was sick with some dangerous contagious disease, he would stay at home and a note with a red cross would be hung on the entrance gate.
  22. +4
    12 September 2025 11: 58
    "Sometimes this glass could be used by a merry company to drink alcoholic beverages. They would borrow the glass for a while and after the end of the street banquet they would return it to its place."
    Not far from the house, an old woman ran a grocery store business. wink I rented out a faceted glass with marks - for two, three, four in exchange for an empty bottle.
    Quote: Vladimir_Kuznetsov
    Perhaps there was a different attitude towards vaccinations.

    Medicine was different. And education. There was a state mandatory vaccination program. Today, only five parents in my granddaughter's class allowed vaccinations. belay
    There was less chemistry, children did not look at their phones, but ran around the street. In short, "the grass was greener."
    Quote: north 2
    There was a shortage of beer because its shelf life was only three days!!!

    belay
    I don't remember about the shortage. The shelf life of "Zhigulevskoye" was 7 days, but after three days in the store it started to go sour. So, we only bought "fresh".
  23. +1
    12 September 2025 12: 07
    They didn't shout this at us from every corner!!!...
  24. +2
    12 September 2025 12: 52
    There were secrets with glasses and mugs: you put both lips into the glass without licking the edge, and you took the mug with your left hand to drink from the side opposite to the right hand - and again with both lips inside...

    They were afraid to drink from shared cups, some people even went with their own cups, there was a lot of talk about the cups in the vending machines - WHAT they did in them...

    And yes, disposable go-kart cups for water and ice cream were very common, and yes, they were used to make visors for caps...
  25. 0
    12 September 2025 13: 45
    The more you come into contact with questionable sanitary conditions, the stronger your immunity.
    In modern hothouse children, etc., it is on its last legs and breathing its last.
  26. -1
    12 September 2025 15: 53
    Quote: your1970
    When I was a student at the dumpling shop on Trubnaya Square in Moscow, I would only order dumplings with vinegar. A fellow student's mother worked there as a cook, so I know some of the piquant details of Soviet public catering
    I know. But those "sins" of Soviet public catering are just child's play compared to the current situation in public catering.
    1. 0
      12 September 2025 17: 10
      Quote: Seal
      Quote: your1970
      When I was a student at the dumpling shop on Trubnaya Square in Moscow, I would only order dumplings with vinegar. A fellow student's mother worked there as a cook, so I know some of the piquant details of Soviet public catering
      I know. But those "sins" of Soviet public catering are just child's play compared to the current situation in public catering.

      Oh come on... The cooks are now lugging groceries home in heavy bags from work - and then they figure out how to disguise it??? And they very successfully disguised it with the phrase: "We ate too much!!!" (C)
      1. -1
        13 September 2025 09: 05
        But are the cooks the only ones to blame? What about the owners of such establishments?
        The notorious "market efficiency" and "profit maximization". And no one has cancelled corruption (which is also business, in essence) of regulatory bodies.
        1. 0
          13 September 2025 11: 05
          Quote: Illanatol
          But are the cooks the only ones to blame? What about the owners of such establishments?
          The notorious "market efficiency" and "profit maximization". And no one has cancelled corruption (which is also business, in essence) of regulatory bodies.

          You didn't catch it - I wrote about the fact that now cooks NOT They drag home such heavy bags of groceries as in Soviet times.
          And the phrase now in the canteen/cafe
          Quote: your1970
          :"They slaughtered!!!" (C)
          - it's impossible to imagine at all. And then - easily...
          Just don't say that it didn't happen - even "Crocodile" regularly trampled on the cooks' bags
          1. 0
            13 September 2025 13: 07
            Well, actually, this still happens in departmental eateries. Although today's cooks are picky and don't steal everything.
            It is impossible to imagine the phrase, in words the service is good. But pies (shawarma, chebureki) supposedly with meat, I try not to buy even now. There are fewer food poisonings now than in the 90s, but certainly not fewer than in Soviet times.
          2. +1
            15 September 2025 11: 21
            Quote: your1970
            You didn't catch it - I wrote that now cooks do NOT drag home such heavy bags of groceries as in Soviet times.

            Hee hee hee hee... I remembered the bitter lamentations of the cook who quit Artek. They say that earlier, the management treated people more gently and looked at things more broadly - Well, they were lugging food from work like crazy, so what? The kids still don't eat what the cooks have prepared. And when Crimea returned to Russia, they appointed new management in Artek - and they started to go crazy. First, they checked bags at the exit, then they brought in Muscovites who started cooking according to the standards, then they started to dispose of what wasn't eaten. In short, it created unbearable conditions at work. smile
            1. 0
              16 September 2025 22: 47
              I remember how a taxi driver in Crimea told me with a mournful sigh: “It could have been faster, but now there are cameras like in Russia, and you still have to wear a seat belt...”
              1. 0
                17 September 2025 10: 36
                Quote: Ryazanets87
                I remember how a taxi driver in Crimea told me with a mournful sigh: “It could have been faster, but now there are cameras like in Russia, and you still have to wear a seat belt...”

                And in Sevastopol, owners of boats ferrying people across the bay complained that, with Russia's arrival, they were now required to have licenses and ensure their boats met safety requirements. The regime is brutal! smile
  27. 0
    12 September 2025 16: 16
    Yes, it's simple. The habit of the level of sanitation comes from childhood.
    If a child grows up in conditions of hysterical cleanliness, this can have a very sad effect on the strength of his health. And in the USSR, 90% of citizens grew up in the same conditions and, as a result, they need the same sanitary conditions.
  28. -2
    12 September 2025 18: 06
    Here the author went too far, in the bread department there was a sign "Do not touch the bread with your hands", there was a stick to touch the loaf, but there was no need for this, the bread, as a rule, did not lie around for long. They brought it in the morning, sold out by lunch. So, no matter which loaf you took, they were all the same. They did not strictly monitor this, there were unique individuals who touched the bread, but they were looked at askance, and could make a remark.
    There was also milk on tap, which you would go to with a can. There was a lot of stuff, but they tried to keep an eye on hygiene. By the way, many people went to the water machine with their own dishes, for example, there were folding cups. At the same time, there were often no cups in the machine, they were stolen by alcoholics. Therefore, they used 200-gram mayonnaise jars.
    1. +1
      12 September 2025 18: 29
      Not a stick, but a fork was available in the bread department. But the question is: was the fork disposable or, perhaps, customers took it only with sterile gloves? Or were these forks sterilized after each shift? No, they took the same fork yesterday, today, and tomorrow; no one changed it from shift to shift. Hundreds and thousands of people who came for bread took it with their own hands without any protection in the form of gloves. And this fork was not boiled.
      1. 0
        12 September 2025 20: 50
        We had a spatula hanging in our bakery that looked like a shoe horn. Only straighter. Thick stainless steel on a stainless steel chain.
  29. +1
    12 September 2025 20: 12
    "... I remember an episode of going to a small cafe for a quick snack: the cashier categorically refused to scan the amount until I put on a gauze mask. When I asked how I should eat in a mask, the answer was that I can only take off this mask during the process of eating, after which I must immediately put it back on. The psychosis grew with each passing day..."

    Psychosis did not develop on its own.
    Don't you remember how in the regions in stores they stretched out tapes to form traffic corridors, how they set the interval between the entrances so that there would be a certain number of meters between customers, and employees, wearing masks made of something and gloves made of something, asked not to crowd?
    It wasn't just the psychosis that was growing by itself. It was also the prohibitions and intimidation.
    But this ban on aimless presence on the street did not last long.
    Sorry! Reaction to the beginning. And I'll go read the whole publication.
    1. +1
      13 September 2025 20: 00
      There is no psychosis there. Now all the cash registers are under cameras. Then the cashier allowed a person without a mask to pay, the cashier got a fine. A pretty big one. That's all. What does the cashier have to do with it? And their salary is not gigantic anyway.
  30. -1
    12 September 2025 20: 29
    "Modern specialists of the sanitary and epidemiological surveillance service would probably be horrified to see the conditions of storage and consumption of food products in the last century. But most former residents of the USSR remained in good health, their immunity was strong, and no one complained much, and did not wear masks and gloves."

    Personal opinion...
    Cruel survival filters.
    3 years. 8 years. 15 years.
    Went to kindergarten, went through first grade, passed adolescence. And the possibilities, or rather impossibilities, of medicine.
    Now it is possible to save a child with a serious illness. And he will live if you help him. But both nutrition and regular medical care are necessary.
    Previously, not everyone could be saved. Spartans. But not because of the desire to have only absolutely healthy people, but because of the impossibility.
    1. 0
      12 September 2025 21: 03
      Is it good or bad that the sick people died?
      1. -1
        15 September 2025 05: 08
        It's nice to engage in demagogy, isn't it?
        The ideal option is to prevent sick people from dying by testing during pregnancy and aborting the defective ones. The soft option is to stop being hysterical about miscarriages and infant mortality. If nature does not want this child to survive, it is not worth interfering with it.
        We know of harsher filters in history. For example, baking a newborn in an oven. The unviable one will die, the healthy one will survive. The family will not waste resources on raising a doomed child. Is it cruel? And isn't it cruel that such children are now dying in physical education classes?
        To prevent patients from dying, selection must take place as early as possible. Those who have passed the selection must be treated and nursed. After the end of the childbearing period, a person can no longer leave a negative mark on genetics (and he is already a valuable specialist), so there must be treatment with all due diligence, but for now the person is working.
        .
        And some conclusions without calculations and justifications due to lack of space. Today, absolutely healthy children are born from 1 to 3% (before antibiotics, it was 33-50%). Thus, if we had an analysis that determined health at the fetal stage, then one child out of 30 would be allowed to give birth, and to give birth to 2 children, a woman would have to get pregnant on average 60 times. But there would be no sick people under 60, and those who got sick would not die.
        There are many other unpleasant conclusions here that you, with your demagogy, will not be able to accept at all.
  31. 0
    12 September 2025 20: 31
    Quote: Sergey250455
    I remember August 1973 in Barnaul. After an internship at the engine plant, we were leaving for home. The next day, the city was closed for quarantine. Two weeks before that, the plant had been handing out free pills, excuse me, for diarrhea. Otherwise, everything was fine. There was no psychosis.


    Diarrhea? You've eaten too many green apples again, you rascals.
    1. 0
      15 September 2025 11: 50
      Quote from Fangaro
      Quote: Sergey250455
      I remember August 1973 in Barnaul. After an internship at the engine plant, we were leaving for home. The next day, the city was closed for quarantine. Two weeks before that, the plant had been handing out free pills, excuse me, for diarrhea. Otherwise, everything was fine. There was no psychosis.


      Diarrhea? You've eaten too many green apples again, you rascals.

      Well, from childhood - green apples don't cause diarrhea in principle - they are too sour. But if a kid with dysentery groped the apples - then yes
  32. +1
    12 September 2025 20: 49
    Quote: eskulap
    Want an analogy with the Soviet soda machine - selling drinks in aluminum cans - in the original, it should have a straw, but everyone has happily forgotten about it and drinks like that, licking the surface of the can, nothing prevents manufacturers/terrorists/illuminati from treating the cans with an aerosol with nanotechnology and voila - zombies/poo-poo people.
    Seriously - viral technologies have long been developed - it is known that viral components are capable of self-assembly, one Italian virologist observed people vaccinated against the flu and found that after about a month or two they begin to secrete viral particles and here you have a flu epidemic a couple of months after vaccination


    Canned food in metal cans.
    Fish, meat, vegetable...
    Some people wash the jar with a brush and soap before opening it, then wipe it dry.
    Someone opens a jar, eats it, knows that he can get sick. But he believes in his innate immunity. He snatches a carrot from the ground, picks a cucumber from a neighbor's garden, breaks off a crust from a stale loaf of bread prepared for the birds, pours salt from the kitchen into a piece of paper... And runs off to play. And so on from the age of eight until "take a bucket, it's time to water the potatoes."
    Well, viruses and bacteria also evolve.
  33. +1
    12 September 2025 21: 10
    Quote: Vladimir_Kuznetsov
    Is it good or bad that the sick people died?


    It's bad that the living died.
    It’s good that by trying to save the sick who could not be saved, there were not only more living people, but also more healthy ones.
  34. +1
    13 September 2025 11: 38
    It's a mystery. Especially soda machines. They were everywhere, although cups weren't everywhere - especially in the 80s, and they were popular. I had a 150 ml collapsible cup, a THING, I often took it with me, especially to sports, but not because of hygiene - but simply because the machine might not have a regular one. There were suspicions about hygiene back then, but people really didn't get infected, that's a fact. By the way, in other countries this definitely wasn't the case in such sizes. A mystery...
    1. +2
      13 September 2025 20: 02
      Back then, the population mobility was much lower. The infection was less transferable. Now, guests from different countries, where sanitation is all over the place, can bring a lot. And we are not adapted to their viruses and bacteria.
  35. +1
    13 September 2025 11: 55
    Quote: your1970
    Just don't say that it didn't happen - even "Crocodile" regularly trampled on the cooks' bags
    The only nuance is that those cooks who, during the Soviet era, dragged bags of groceries home were interested in working where they worked. Or even growing, for example, moving to a more prestigious establishment. That's why they had all their medical examinations regularly, and kept the production facility clean and tidy. That was the main message. And you translated everything into "dragging." But the main issue was not that they dragged, but in the huge difference in hygiene, in compliance with the requirements of sanitary and epidemiological supervision (which has now been replaced by Rospotrebnadzor). Plus, Soviet catering did not serve such dangerous dishes as "sushi" or some shellfish that were alive. In those years, everything was heartily fried, boiled or steamed by cooks who complied with all the requirements of sanitary and epidemiological supervision. Well, they dragged largely because their work was paid rather modestly. In 1985, I spoke with a director of a ship restaurant on a large river cruise ship. The issue was that at the end of the navigation season, the ship restaurant workers and directors also accumulated such a huge amount of overtime that, according to the law, they were supposed to rest from December to May inclusive. And they had to go to work in March, when the ship was put into operation after winter storage. And these two unpaid months were not paid or compensated. Which caused dissatisfaction among the employees. They (not all of them, of course, but there were dissatisfied ones) wrote letters to all authorities. So they sent me to figure out how this happened, who was to blame and what to do. So the director of the ship restaurant honestly admitted that his salary was 90 rubles a month. There are almost no bonuses. And he said the phrase: "Our management set such rates for us taking into account the fact that we will steal before normal wages." Well, plus, as the restaurant director, he officially had the right not only to eat for free himself, but also to feed one more person. The director of the ship's restaurant office had the right to feed four people, including himself. And the head of the Workers' Supply Department (URS) - six, including himself. Or not including? I don't remember anymore.
    The most notorious thieves observed sanitary and hygienic requirements at work more carefully than many others. Is that clear?
    1. +1
      15 September 2025 11: 59
      Quote: Seal
      The most notorious thieves observed sanitary and hygienic requirements at work more carefully than many others. Is that clear?

      The most notorious thieves - physically unable to comply with any norms - will have nothing to steal.
      I gave the example with butter and sour cream in the dumpling shop above - they simply poured butter and sour cream from the customers' plates into a saucepan on the stove and poured "melted butter" from it over new portions of dumplings.
      After which the cook would take away 2 kg of butter in the evening...
      And the uneaten dumplings went into the common pot and quite raised the overall weight of the portion.
      What the hell kind of sanitation is there here????!!!!!
      And this is the center of Moscow in the early 1980s....
      1. 0
        16 September 2025 00: 41
        I was traveling from Moscow to St. Petersburg on a business trip in the mid-80s. I think it was 1985. I didn't have time to have dinner - the train left, I went to the dining car. Salad, Kiev cutlet with a side dish, 250 vodka, a glass of fruit drink and dessert. Really tasty. But the portions were small, even taking into account the dessert I was at least full. Of course, there was theft in 1985 too. Maybe because of the weight issue?
  36. -1
    13 September 2025 12: 00
    Quote from Fangaro
    "... I remember an episode of going to a small cafe for a quick snack: the cashier categorically refused to scan the amount until I put on a gauze mask. When I asked how I should eat in a mask, the answer was that I can only take off this mask during the process of eating, after which I must immediately put it back on. The psychosis grew with each passing day..."

    Psychosis did not develop on its own.

    What does psychosis have to do with it? The country faced this kind of pandemic for the first time. And the whole world too. No one knew what to do. Compared to China, we had no restrictions at all.
    Regarding this particular case, I can note that it is one thing to stand without a mask in a general line at the checkout, and probably with a tray of food, next to people who have trays with their own food - and it is a completely different thing to sit without a mask alone at a separate table, which are also at a considerable distance from each other.
  37. 0
    15 September 2025 04: 50
    Why did people previously ignore the risk of getting infected?

    2 points. The incidence of diarrhea was very high. The population mobility was low. Therefore, as soon as a new virus was brought into the village, the entire village would get sick, and then it was possible to drink from the same glass and not wash your hands again. Living conditions were such that infections were inevitable. The sanitary and epidemiological station was on guard against dangerous infections. The country was cleaned and the risk of getting something fatal was small.
    The second point. The population was epidemicized. All those with weak immune systems were eliminated by childhood infections. Children were born from parents who were selected by terrible diseases. Therefore, viruses like coxsackie were perceived as a bourgeois invention. Russians did not get sick with them.
    Genetics is of particular importance. By removing the pressure of infectious selection, we get less resilient and more stupid offspring with each generation. In my generation, two out of three could have died without medical help. Both of my children suffered from potentially fatal diseases. My grandchildren get sick every year so much that without antibiotics they would not have lived to be two years old.
    .
    As for the crown. In the West, in China, and in our country, anti-epidemic services have shown complete failure. Efforts and resources were thrown into unnecessary show, like disinfecting playgrounds and self-isolation. While the virus, as it turned out in 2023, dies from direct sunlight in seconds! There was no strength left for effective anti-epidemic measures. And if we believe Popova, there are no epidemiologists on the staff of the Russian Federal Service for Supervision of Natural Resources! Only consumer rights defenders. There was no one to deal with the infection.
    Covid treatment has taken more lives than the disease itself. Antibiotics in the first week are a direct route to intensive care. Paracetamol... It only makes your stomach hurt, and has zero therapeutic effect. But effective drugs: ibuprofen, indomethacin and dexazone (this one in the second week of illness) were ostracized. Although back in March there were articles proposing to use NSAIDs, hormones and cytostatics for corona.
    .
    What I will say in conclusion: if corona had come in 1985, we would not have noticed it much. We would have been surprised by the abnormal number of "pneumonias", we would have learned to treat it... Well, and the sanitary and epidemiological service would not have allowed the virus to spread so much across the country.
    1. +2
      15 September 2025 11: 31
      Quote: also a doctor
      What I will say in conclusion: if corona had come in 1985, we would not have noticed it much. We would have been surprised by the abnormal number of "pneumonias", we would have learned to treat it...

      More likely, in 1980. Then, even the annual cholera in Odessa did not bother anyone.
      In 1985, there was already perestroika and glasnost, “the authorities are hiding,” “hundreds of thousands of millions were shot” - in general, the scale of the disease would have been inflated in all the media.
      1. +1
        15 September 2025 12: 09
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: also a doctor
        What I will say in conclusion: if corona had come in 1985, we would not have noticed it much. We would have been surprised by the abnormal number of "pneumonias", we would have learned to treat it...

        More likely, in 1980. Then, even the annual cholera in Odessa did not bother anyone.
        In 1985, there was already perestroika and glasnost, “the authorities are hiding,” “hundreds of thousands of millions were shot” - in general, the scale of the disease would have been inflated in all the media.

        Apparently I had COVID in 1990 in Kushka during my military service. The symptoms were identical. I went to the military unit, they gave me aspirin and a spanking - "don't you see, the demobilized soldiers are sick."
        I was sick for about 10 days. After recovery, I lost my sense of smell - until now, only very strong smells like gas or monthly socks. lol .
        Mom in COVID said that they were shown COVID in practice at the end of 1960 - then it was so harmless that it was just gloves and a mask, unlike serious viruses - where they were taken strictly in anti-plague suits
  38. 0
    15 September 2025 11: 28
    In 2020, the world learned about the emergence of a terrible disease - coronavirus. Strict restrictions were introduced: quarantine, self-isolation, mandatory wearing of masks - thin gauze bandages. The population was told that this was a talisman against mortal danger.

    Don't go out without a mask, don't go out without gloves! Only to the store, the pharmacy, it's only necessary to go out! We warn you! Watch out, don't say later "we didn't know". There will be severe punishment and a fine!
    © Deputy Imam Ramzan Tutaev
  39. 0
    16 September 2025 23: 18
    Oh my God, is it really not clear that mysophobia (fear of viruses, bacteria, pollution) is beneficial to the pharmaceutical mafia? In the USSR they promoted hygiene and a healthy lifestyle, but they didn't terrorize the population through the media. And as for detergents, antiseptics, and other things for hygiene... There is data that the less normal meat (protein) you consume, the more detergents (soaps, shampoos) you need to avoid getting mangy. And all this information about the liquidation of farms in Europe, about crickets and maggots also gives rise to certain thoughts. And it is much easier to manage a population with protein starvation (kwashiorkor). The "lambs" become obedient. In general, it is clear that the USSR had a different information field. And medicine may not have been as advanced, but it was widespread and accessible. For example, there was a network of anti-plague stations. Now there is none of that.
  40. 0
    19 September 2025 07: 24
    [QuoteWhy weren't Soviet citizens afraid of viruses and germs?] [/ Quote]
    I will also add that Soviet citizens were not afraid of poverty, hunger, shortages, being underweight, or old age; they were only worried about one thing: that there would be no war.
    1. -1
      19 September 2025 08: 01
      Quote: Idle_piston
      Soviet citizens were not afraid of poverty, hunger, shortages, or weightless, nor old age, they were worried about only one thing, if only there would be no war

      That's right. And they weren't afraid of death either, to boot. The "weight loss" bit was amusing... keep squealing, you idiot.

      PS: single laughing
  41. +1
    20 September 2025 07: 46
    A healthier society in all respects means stronger immunity.
  42. 0
    21 September 2025 00: 20
    So, what is the sanitary policy of the USSR?
  43. -1
    6 November 2025 10: 07
    The author is not a reader, the author is a writer!
    We open Kandaurov's "A Runway as Long as Life" and enjoy a vivid description of the cholera epidemic in Astrakhan in 72, if I'm not mistaken. More precisely, a description of the turmoil and panic at all levels of government.
  44. +1
    14 December 2025 17: 29
    I remember my gluttonous student days. We ate whatever we could find, wherever we could, even canned goods from an open can that had been left out in the rain for days in the woods. We never once had food poisoning. And we easily got over any "flu" on our feet. And it's still that way today, apparently, just the old school.
  45. 0
    2 February 2026 19: 34
    People write such nonsense that it’s embarrassing to read...
  46. 0
    16 February 2026 13: 12
    And we, the kids, drank cold water straight from the ditch that watered the cotton fields, 1957, Tashauz region, Takhtinsky district, Turkmenistan SSR.