Kirsanov County in the Civil War. The End of Antonovshchina

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Kirsanov County in the Civil War. The End of Antonovshchina

End. Read the beginning. Quiet Kirsanov in the Civil War
History, as we know, does not know the subjunctive mood. More than a hundred years ago, the Bolsheviks won, although they had to defeat many enemies that they had made for themselves. And the situation in Tambov region towards the end of the Civil War was still continuing to develop in favor of the rebels.

Drastic measures


By the late autumn of 1920, the Antonovites already controlled almost the entire province, with the exception of Tambov itself and several cities that continued to remain strongholds of Soviet power. However, on April 11, 1921, the rebels managed to capture Rasskazovo and defeat a large garrison there, while an entire battalion of Red Army soldiers was captured.



This happened, forgive me for repeating myself, in Rasskazovo, which at that time was a real proletarian center of the Tambov province. It was there that the cloth and leather factories were located, which were engaged in the supply of uniforms to the Red Army.

At Aseev’s factory alone, whose mansion today adorns the center of Tambov, more workers worked than in the entire provincial city – the factory was the largest cloth factory in the country.


After the capture of Rasskazovo on April 16, 1921, Antonov attempted to take Kirsanov by storm. This is how the then commandant of the Kirsanov railway station, B. I. Popov, recalled it:

"Early in the morning that day, as soon as it was getting light, Antonov's units stormed into Kirsanov. It felt like the city was completely surrounded. They were shooting everywhere and from all sides. The shooting was especially intense in the area of ​​the city cemetery and on Cathedral Square near the Assumption Cathedral.

But by lunchtime it was all over. Troops had been delivered to Kirsanov by rail from wherever they could, and all the Antonov attacks had been repelled. I went to see what was happening in the streets. All around, on the roads, in the alleys, in the gateways, there were corpses of people lying, strewn about. Mountains of corpses.

Everyone was dressed in every conceivable and inconceivable clothing, some in military uniform, some in tailcoats, some in sheepskin coats. There were no wounded. They were either taken away by the attackers or hid in the yards, and some were finished off by the defenders. There were many killed and wounded horses. Many horses were running around the streets of the city. Fluff from the pillows was flying everywhere, they were on the horses instead of saddles" ...



Something with the memory...


It should be noted that the rebels did not stand on ceremony with the representatives of the Soviet power, especially with the Chekists. They put responsible workers who fell into their hands to a painful death. According to archives, the rebels destroyed: shot, hanged, raped, tortured and humiliated more than two thousand party, Soviet, Komsomol workers.

However, the Antonovites did not engage in outright banditry or reprisals against the Red fighters. Captured Red Army soldiers were usually released after a preventive talk, and many of them went over to their side. And not all Red commanders were executed, even the communists.

In the memoirs of those who fought against Antonov, there is the following situation: "Antonovites" captured a food detachment in Gavrilovka and locked it in a barn, and the next morning the Reds came and freed them... If Antonov had been the bandit that Soviet propaganda portrayed him as, he should have shot all the prisoners on the very first evening. But he left everything until the trial, so that they could be judged by a people's assembly.

The rebel army had a temporary charter that prohibited robbing the local population, reprisals against prisoners and their families. But the province was flooded with various bandit gangs, even Tukhachevsky wrote that Antonov had only 10 thousand worthy fighters, and the remaining 40 thousand were in bandit and semi-bandit gangs. However, for ideological reasons, all the bandits were attributed to Antonov. It was very convenient to accuse him of banditry.

Meanwhile, Moscow was fully concerned about the situation in the region and created a plenipotentiary commission of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, headed by Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko. The future Marshal of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Tukhachevsky, was appointed responsible for conducting all military operations in the province. The legendary brigade commander Grigory Kotovsky was also sent to Tambov. Genrikh Yagoda and Vasily Ulrikh (photo below) arrived from the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission.



According to the memoirs of the same B. I. Popov, the future Hero of the Soviet Union, Colonel General Mikhail Semenovich Khozin, also a native of Kirsanov, fought here as a commander of an armored division. Budyonny, Voroshilov, Uborevich, Blucher, Kalinin and other famous people were also in Kirsanov, but information about this is absent, or is hushed up, distorted, not advertised.

It is clear, who wants to be a hero, fighting with his own people. Even G.K. Zhukov in his memoirs dedicated a whole chapter to Antonov's rebellion in Tambov region, but about Kirsanov, where he was, fought, and received his first award - the Order of the Red Banner, not a word is written.

The count was in the thousands, tens of thousands


In total, up to 55 thousand Red Army servicemen were involved in suppressing the Tambov Uprising: 37,5 thousand bayonets, 10 thousand sabres, as well as 7 thousand servicemen in nine artillery brigades; 5 armored motor detachments, 4 armored trains, 6 armored cars, 2 air detachments, cadets of the Moscow and Oryol infantry and Borisoglebsk cavalry courses.

The entire province, as in wartime, was divided into combat areas, with their own commanders and units. The main principle of the fight against Antonovshchina was "execution on the spot without trial or investigation" in the event of resistance or even in the event of a refusal to give one's name upon arrest. In families sheltering rebels or weapon the eldest was shot, and the “bandit nest” itself was subject to destruction.

In addition, the practice of taking hostages with all the ensuing consequences was tightened - execution two hours after refusing to hand over a rebel or a weapon. The number of concentration camps, like a network entangling the province, increased several times. In Kirsanov alone, two more were established - in the area of ​​Uvarovskina and the railway station.

The conditions in the camps, already harsh, became even more severe. Now not only accomplices and family members were sent there, but also close relatives and infants. In some, entire villages were kept as hostages. And to intimidate the population in the rebel zone, mass executions of hostages were used.

Thus, on June 27, 1921, the village of Osinovka was cordoned off by Red Army units, orders were issued setting a two-hour deadline for handing over the "bandits" and weapons, with a warning that hostages would be shot for failure to comply. Up to 40 hostages were taken. After the deadline, 21 hostages were shot in the presence of a peasant gathering, after which the peasants went to look for weapons and catch the "bandits".

In the end, three rifles and five "bandits" were issued. The families of the executed hostages, as well as the "bandits" hiding, were sent to concentration camps. Just as quickly, 36 hostages were shot on July 3-4 in the village of Bogoslovka.

When the threat of executions did not work, as in the village of Vtoraya Kareyevka, which consisted of 65-70 households, the villagers were evicted, their property was confiscated, and the village itself was burned. The total number of people in the Tambov province who were subjected to repression, according to archival data, is estimated at 50-70 thousand people.

It must be said that the harsh measures proved effective. Gradually, the peasantry began to cool towards their defenders. But there were other reasons that contributed to the collapse of the rebel army. Thus, after the capture of Crimea, it became possible to transfer regular units of the Red Army, experienced in combat, to Tambov.

There was another reason, perhaps more important - the Antonovites' ammunition reserves were rapidly running low, and there was no way to replenish them. And most importantly, at the end of March 1921, an amnesty was declared - a full pardon for privates, but liability in court for commanders.

The rebels began to come out of the forests to surrender. And finally, by decision of the 1921th Congress of the RCP(b), the food tax was replaced by a grain tax. By the end of May 10, the peasant army had practically ceased to exist - about XNUMX thousand of its fighters surrendered during military operations, and one and a half times more of them voluntarily came out of the forests.

Only the most irreconcilable remained, no longer expecting leniency, their hands stained with the blood of their fellow villagers. Until the end of June, they continued to fight against the Red Army units in small detachments. During one of these clashes, Pyotr Tokmakov was killed. Aleksandr Antonov managed to escape, he was only wounded...


Assault and…


With the remnants of his loyal units, Antonov hid on the Vorona River near Lake Kipets. At the end of July 1921, the Chekists found out where the rebels were, and at the beginning of August they began an operation - an assault. They carried out three daytime and one nighttime attacks, but were repelled. Then an air strike was carried out on Antonov's positions, artillery strike, and then the positions were shelled with shells containing toxic chemicals.

In this case, shells of the AZhO type with chloropicrin tear gas were used. Three cases of their use were documented. In particular, the combat diary of the artillery division of the Zavolzhsky Military District brigade recorded that on July 13, 1921, the following were used in battle: three-inch grenades - 160, shrapnel - 69, chemical grenades - 47.

On August 3, the battery commander of the Belgorod Artillery Courses reported to the artillery chief of the 6th combat section that 65 shrapnel shells, 49 grenades and 59 chemical shells were fired during the shelling of the island on Lake Kipets. According to local residents, the chemical shells led to the deaths of not only the rebels, but also the civilian population.

As a result, the main forces of the rebels suffered a defeat that was not yet final, but extremely heavy. At the end of July, the leadership of the rebellion issued an order according to which all detachments were offered to split into groups, hide in the forests and switch to guerrilla actions or go home.

Antonov himself goes underground. Part of his troops continues to resist, degenerating into bandit gangs. Antonov does not lead them, he hides underground for a whole year. A year later, in June 1922, the Chekists managed to establish that he is in the village of Nizhny Shibryay.

During the entire rebellion there were no troops there - neither Reds nor Antonov's, so the village was calm. Many residents knew that Antonov was hiding there, they respected him and helped him - they supplied him with food, went to Uvarovo for medicine.

Antonov was ill, after all he had been through he had malaria, his right hand was withering from a bullet wound, he learned to do everything with his left. Antonov hid at Natalya Ivanovna Katasonova's. However, to this day, local residents claim that the miller Ivanov hid him, and Katasonova helped the miller with the housework. There she met Antonov, they had an affair, she became pregnant, then a daughter was born.

As a result of a well-organized and executed operation by the Chekists, the house in the village was surrounded. Aleksandr Antonov, who was hiding in it with his brother Dmitry, refused to surrender, and during the shootout both were killed. On July 16, 1922, the liquidation of the "Socialist Revolutionary-kulak" rebellion in the Tambov province was officially announced.

However, people did not believe that the "invincible" Antonov was killed. The bodies of the brothers were brought to Kirsanov for identification and presentation to the people. Thousands of leaflets with photographs of the murdered Antonov brothers were made and pasted in all populated areas - in churches and stores and on almost every fence and pole, scattered from airplanes.

Later they were transported to Tambov and thrown into one of the storerooms of the Kazan Monastery, where the Tambov GPU was located at the time. They were buried somewhere nearby – probably on the slope of the Tsna River, in the area of ​​today's Music Square…


Without anger and addiction


Those terrible times have long passed. Another terrible one, the Great Patriotic War, was and has passed… This year we will celebrate its 75th anniversary of victory. Everything should have been forgotten, everything reconciled. But, to this day, the residents of Kirsanov are still seized with horror at the very name of Alexander Stepanovich Antonov.

He divided everyone - into those who fought with him and the victims of his struggle. To this day, the descendants of both are alive. To this day, the townspeople in Kirsanov or Rasskazovo quietly pass on stories and events of those times from mouth to mouth.

The ghost of Alexander Stepanovich is alive! Despite all the legends about Antonov's support by the overwhelming majority of the peasant population of Tambov province, the facts do not confirm this.

The peasants preferred neutrality. “They will never say either about the Antonovites or the Chekists – ‘ours’, the former will be called ‘whites’, the latter – ‘reds’ – this is what is written in the operational reports of those years.

Throughout the country, even on Cossack lands, monuments to the reconciliation of the participants in that cruel, bloody civil war have long been erected. In the center of Kirsanov there are mass graves of participants in the civil war, or more precisely, a burial site for those killed during the Civil War.

According to the lists, more than 50 people are buried in three mass graves. A sculpture is installed on the grave - a figure of a soldier of the civil war. And the inscription: "Here are buried the heroes of the Civil War who died in the fight for Soviet power." The pedestal is three and a half meters; the figure of the soldier is three meters. And that's it!

The same monuments and memorials to the victims of the rebellion are scattered throughout many villages and towns in Tambov region. Isn't that why it is so difficult to argue with any of the numerous characteristics of Alexander Stepanovich Antonov given to him by historians?

A sadist? Yes. Throughout his entire adult life he has killed many innocent people.

A revolutionary? Undoubtedly. Until the very end he believed in the revolution and felt obliged to its ideas.

A romantic? Definitely. Awkwardly, but sincerely tried to build a peasant utopia and fought for it…

One could go on, and all the definitions would not be enough – because there is something timeless about him: he was born a people's leader, cruel, inventive, vengeful, but also magnanimous, dreamy, and even simple-minded in some ways. Not all epic heroes are beautiful – some have bloody hands and eyes that sparkle in the dark…

In the holy book of many religions – the Old Testament, there is a story that tells of a great fratricidal war and ends with the episode: the king of one of the opposing sides dies and goes to heaven.

He is invited to the banquet table, but he suddenly notices that there are no fallen comrades or heroes from the enemy camp at the table. In addition to their exploits, they tell him, they have done many evil deeds, and so they are now sitting in hell - only you, who have not done evil, are worthy of being here.

“No,” the king objects, “if these great heroes are in hell, then my place is there too.” But everyone smiles at him: "We have put you to the final test to see if you are truly the king of justice." - and they open his eyes: his former friends and enemies have been feasting at the table for a long time.

They joyfully greet the Tsar and stand up to let him take his place. A wise book. Isn't it time for us, who for a hundred years have been unable to forgive the titans of the civil war for their sins, to finally seat everyone at one, common banquet table of heroes.

Text prepared by Vladimir Polyansky, Kirsanov - Smolensk
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  1. +1
    12 September 2025 04: 02
    I wouldn't want to be there at such a time... when a brother kills a brother, a son kills a father... for our people this is definitely a tragedy.
    Isn't it time for us, who for a hundred years have been unable to forgive the titans of the civil war for their sins, to finally seat everyone at one, common banquet table of heroes?

    It won't work, Alexey. request
    The ideological contradictions in people's minds are too strong, and they are intensified by class grievances.
    1. +3
      12 September 2025 05: 16
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I wouldn't want to be there at a time like that...when brother kills brother, son kills father

      He who has the devil behind his back does not need to go far beyond the devil. You live in such times.
      1. -2
        12 September 2025 05: 27
        Quote: Belisarius
        Quote: The same LYOKHA

        He who has the devil behind his back does not need to go far beyond the devil. You live in such times.

        what Yes... and now too, it is a troubling time... the era of global changes in the world and in our country is rolling like a steamroller.
  2. -5
    12 September 2025 04: 46
    For the people and all that... But the "uprising" during the war with Poland makes you wonder, for which people?
  3. +3
    12 September 2025 05: 12
    A nice thing, "there were no right and guilty". Any war is evil, a civil war is even more evil, but this fact does not mean that there were no right and guilty. Then let's say that there were no right and guilty in the Great Patriotic War or during the Time of Troubles of the early 17th century. After all, one can cite a million facts that even there "not everything is so clear-cut".
    Those who are for the working people and for the development of society - they think that the Reds were right, those who are for themselves and for the ruling classes and estates - they think that the Whites were right.
    There can be no "common table of heroes" between them.
    1. 0
      12 September 2025 10: 08
      "there were no rights and no faults"

      Prince, my great-grandfather, on my father's side, took part in the first uprising against Kolchak in 1919. Now I have to apologize for my great-grandfather in front of the Kolchak monument. And if you consider that numerous relatives on my mother's side fought against Petliura, Denikin, Wrangel, and even liberated Transcaucasia from the nationalists as part of the 11th Army, should I break my hat to them? Oh, forgive me, Petliura, oh, thank you, Anton Ivanovich, for not going to the Germans. If you had, our ancestors would not have been able to defend Moscow in 1941. Forgive me, Musavatists, Dashnaks, and Georgian Mensheviks, for taking away your "freedom" in 1920-1921. It turns out that there are no right or wrong, as has become fashionable now to say, they are all victims of the civil war, and the Bolsheviks are to blame because they overthrew the Provisional Government. which the Tsar-father, by his own will, appointed to retire before being arrested.
      1. +3
        12 September 2025 12: 21
        Hi Aleksey!
        Knsh, my great-grandfather, on my father's side, took part in the first uprising against Kolchak.

        My great-grandfather on my grandmother's side managed to fight for the Whites and the Reds, which did not stop him from working as a mill director until 37. He was repressed in 38. For a long time, this remained an internal family secret.
        However, when the question of receiving a pension "as children of dispossessed people" arose in the 90s, my grandmother refused on principle. The rest of my relatives, by the will of fate, were red. Although my great-grandfather on my father's side managed to marry the daughter of a former mayor. For which he was "reprimanded" by being assigned to the village of Atig (his place of birth).
        What Kolchak did in the Urals has no justification. Period.
        However, I doubt whether it makes sense to divide society into "reds" and "whites" a century later. By and large, the majority won - the "reds" and we are their descendants. Looking for "enemies of the reds" is the path of marginals, and probably our Tatra. Why look for them if they showed their true face in 1941. And there were not only "former whites" among them, but also "former reds" like Vlasov...
        My grandfather on my father's side told me that the orderly of his first battery commander was a "white officer". He fussed over the junior lieutenant like a hen over a chick. He nurtured him to the rank of captain. My grandfather received the "Glory of the 3rd degree", for whose tongue he and his orderly took the captain. According to my grandfather, he took them in batches, only taking the young ones to drag them to his own. He used to say, "I'm a decrepit child, this is the third time I'm fighting". Already in Germany, the orderly protected his captain from a bullet. That's when they found out that he was a former "white officer". In a rag on his chest they found royal orders, shoulder straps with "embroidery" and a photograph.
        As far as I understand, the shoulder straps were clean, without stars.
        Who is this person - more white or red? Maybe just Russian?
        Alexey, my conclusion is simple - stop digging where everything has already been dug up. History develops in a spiral. There will always be those who agree and those who disagree. Events give an assessment, like today - who is for and who is against. And the most important thing is never to ask for forgiveness if it happened, quince - that's how it should be.
        This is my personal preference, which I don’t want to impose on anyone.
        1. -4
          12 September 2025 12: 31
          And don't distort my post. My post is not about what you wrote so much about. A question for you, me, a descendant of red fighters and commanders, many of whom, almost 90%, died during the Great Patriotic War, should I apologize to Kolchak, Denikin, Krasnov, Petliura, Musavatists, Dashnaks, Georgian nationalists?
          P.S.. On my mother's side, I come from the nobility, albeit servicemen, albeit those Cossack centurions, clerks, who, under Catherine, became minor nobles. But not one ran from the Whites to the Reds, and did not go to the city of Paris. Postscript, no need to comment. Answer the question asked earlier. And without water, like as you want .. specifically ... Apologize or not?
          1. +1
            12 September 2025 12: 56
            Alexey, I gave an example that does not fit into the framework of your truth!
            At the same time, I replied that it was absolutely impossible to ask forgiveness from Kolchak and the rest of the “white” bastards.
            If everyone in your family is red and fluffy... God willing, but what credit do you have for this?
            In a direct line, I can only boast that my great-great-grandfather rose to the rank of plant manager. The rest are workers at Ural plants (burners, blacksmiths, dam workers). Only on my grandmother's side - in the Cossack class.
            And again, what is my merit?
            We are responsible for our blown life, and in front of our children and grandchildren, not our fathers and grandfathers. It won't be far from kissing boots, which has become fashionable overseas today...
            Unfortunately, the issues of civil war, dear Alexey, make you hysterical. Alas, I personally feel sad that instead of an erudite and balanced interlocutor in this case, I have to see a completely different opponent….
            May God bless you,
            1. -6
              12 September 2025 13: 13
              Water, water, water, water all around (c), couldn’t you answer the question?
              Here you position yourself as a big history buff, but history doesn't teach you anything. Even the most recent one. Specifically, regarding the post, to the hysterics. laughing In the Baltics they apologized to the former SS men, and what happened? Great friends? Yes, no, they joined NATO. In Ukraine they "apologized" to Petliura and Bandera, and what now? SVO... In Azerbaijan they apologized to the Musavatists, they tore down the monument to the red partisan Mamed, is Azerbaijan a great friend? In Uzbekistan they also apologized to the Basmachi, and led the president to their memorial.
              Alas, I personally feel sad that instead of an erudite and balanced interlocutor in this case I have to see a completely different opponent....

              I won't cry, you've moved up to the level, I'm the same. Well... That's what I hear. laughing
              1. +1
                12 September 2025 13: 21
                Alexey - where did I write that you need to ask for forgiveness?
                I am a statist, just like you. Only as long as I serve, it makes no difference to me who will come out to the barricades: white, red, green, or grey-brown-violet... I will crush everyone.
                The reason is banal - Russia today will not survive another revolution.
                1. -9
                  12 September 2025 13: 34
                  Listen, my dear, I am not erudite, stupid, hysterical. From your words. Why are you pestering me with your thoughts? Look for someone else instead of me. Don't be ill. All the best. Go, you know where... to the monument to Ilyin, lay flowers for him, and there nearby is the grave of Anton Ivanovich, thank him for not going over to the Nazis, otherwise they would have given up Moscow in 1941. How to get there? By Sapsan. If the Red Arrow, it doesn't run anymore. Yes, there among Muscovites, there is a belief that if you stroke Ilyin's shoe and shed a tear on Denikin's grave, happiness will come. Happiness to you.
                  1. -1
                    12 September 2025 15: 49
                    Quote: parusnik
                    Listen, my dear sir, I am not erudite, I am stupid, I am hysterical.

                    I completely agree with you! How many Russian people did you chop up? And for what? So that everything could be sold to our enemies! Traitors are your name in historical perspective.
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                    1. -1
                      12 September 2025 16: 27
                      Fully agree with you!

                      ..And as I understand it, you are one of many erudite and simply brilliant people here..Why are you, such brilliant and erudite people, drawn to my darkness? Look for yourself an interlocutor worthy of you..
                      1. -4
                        12 September 2025 16: 31
                        It doesn't pull at all. I just read a surge of reason in a shell-shocked consciousness, now I see! It let go.
                      2. 0
                        12 September 2025 17: 04
                        I just don't understand what it is about you, smart, erudite people, that you are drawn to the insane - why don't you communicate with each other? There are so many of you here.
                2. -3
                  12 September 2025 17: 34
                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  I am a statist. But as long as I serve, it makes no difference to me who will go to the barricades: white, red, green, or grey-brown-violet… I will crush everyone.

                  Hello, Vladislav!
                  The only correct state position.

                  But Denikin and Kolchak did exactly that: they were not politicians, but generals. States Russian, which they served all their lives and tried to preserve.

                  Unlike those who never served him in their lives, fought with him and threw him into the furnace world revolution without mercy and cut into 16 pieces while alive..
                  They didn't need Russia, Lenin:
                  "It's interesting to participate in the EXPERIMENT!
                  1. -3
                    13 September 2025 03: 53
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    "It's interesting to participate in the EXPERIMENT!
                    I wouldn't trust such experimenters to even build a hole in the garden! laughing
                    1. +2
                      13 September 2025 10: 13
                      Quote: Vladislav_V
                      I wouldn't trust such experimenters to even build a hole in the garden!

                      Naturally, these people, already bald, have never worked as anyone in their lives.
                3. +1
                  15 September 2025 10: 49
                  But as long as I serve, it makes no difference to me who comes out to the barricades: white, red, green, or grey-brown-violet... I will crush everyone.
                  good
        2. -5
          12 September 2025 12: 53
          There is such a concept, inaccessible to the enemies of the communists and the USSR, as logic. And according to this logic, if the enemies of the communists and the USSR cowardly whine in chorus that they all, and those like them, "have nothing to do" with what they did, both in the Soviet period, beginning with the Civil War they unleashed against the Bolsheviks and their supporters, and in their evil anti-Soviet period, beginning with their totally false Perestroika, they themselves admitted that everything they did was their crimes.
          And therefore, there will be no reconciliation with you "reds".
          1. +4
            12 September 2025 13: 10
            My applause to Tatra, who used science and logic in his post - you have to manage to disregard two of the six basic rules!!!
            Do you even have a higher education? Or does the empty talk in high places completely kill the norms of morality, ethics, the ability to understand what is written and to hear!!!
            Moreover, I personally feel sick hearing “about communist enemies” from a person who betrayed the Motherland and the party in the 90s...
            Where were you when perestroika was happening and the Soviet Union was collapsing…
            1. -3
              12 September 2025 14: 03
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              you have to manage to disregard two of the six basic rules!!!

              I know one and a half-valued logic (normal programming languages ​​Lisp, C\C++, Python, etc.), I know two-valued logic, this is usually understood as human, there are three operations (two not and exclusive or are possible) or languages ​​like Pascal, there is also three-valued logic, for example, SQL with its NULL value (this is, by the way, closer to human thinking). I can immediately come up with, for example, a 7-valued one for you, but I don’t see the point in this. (Or rather, I will generate them for you on your computer)

              Now the question is, how did you see in the set of phrases a contradiction and a violation of two basic, basic Karl, rules, but like four non-basic ones were fulfilled?

              I need to have a drink.

              But to be honest, my grandmother, a Cossack, had the most terrible curse word on the upper Don: “go to your Kolchaks.” My relatives were de-Cossackized and they shouldn’t love Soviet power.
              This is how people should have been brought to it. So I am for Truth, and this Truth is much more for the Soviet power than for the Whites (Kolchak sold out to the English), than for the Whites and priests (they are not fit to be crossed at all).

              Here is an article by my late friend about how naval officers and admirals served the Reds.
              https://cont.ws/@bya965/736983
              1. -2
                12 September 2025 14: 45
                Quote: bya965
                This is how people should have been brought to it. So I am for Truth, and this Truth is much more for the Soviet power than for the Whites (Kolchak sold out to the English)

                belay you forgot that sold out to the Germans (SS and Gestapo, Abwehr), Japanese, Poles and other imperialists: Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army, Soviet Marshals, People's Commissariat of Defense, Revolutionary Military Council, Chairmen of Soviet Governments, NKVD, MGB, Soviet Ambassadors, almost all members of the Politburo, Central Committee and other "leaders" of the sovlasti - and this was established by the Soviet COURT and not by chatter. Brest was concluded by... the German agent Trotsky. And so - everywhere

                No country in the world has ever known such a scale of BETRAYAL on SUCH a level, everywhere and anywhere, only Soviet power and lies are its essence.
                1. -3
                  12 September 2025 14: 54
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  No country in the world has ever known such a scale of BETRAYAL on SUCH a level, everywhere and anywhere, only Soviet power and lies are its essence.

                  But there is no need. We hanged our traitors and never hid it. And the Russian people are with us, we do not like traitors.

                  Let's look at it from the other side (whites and priests)

                  From the Message of Metropolitan Seraphim (Lukyanov). 1941.

                  ... Blessed be the hour and the day when the great glorious war with the Third International began. May the Almighty bless the great Leader of the German people, who raised his sword against the enemies of God himself...

                  "Church Life". 1942. No. 1.

                  Telegram of the All-Belarusian Church Council to A. Hitler. 1942.

                  The first ever All-Belarusian Orthodox Church Council in Minsk, on behalf of the Orthodox Belarusians, sends you, Mr. Reich Chancellor, heartfelt gratitude for the liberation of Belarus from the Moscow-Bolshevik godless yoke, for the opportunity provided to freely organize our religious life in the form of the Holy Belarusian Orthodox Autocephalous Church and wishes a speedy complete victory to your invincible weapon.

                  Archbishop Philotheus (Narco)
                  Bishop Athanasius (Martos)
                  Bishop Stefan (Sevbo)

                  From the Easter Message of Metropolitan Anastassy, ​​1942

                  ... The day awaited by them (the Russian people) has arrived, and they are now truly, as it were, resurrected from the dead, where the courageous German sword managed to cut their shackles... And ancient Kyiv, and long-suffering Smolensk, and Pskov are brightly celebrating their deliverance as if from the very hell of hell. The liberated part of the Russian people has already begun to sing everywhere... "Christ is Risen!"...


                  And some of the whites and priests did not condemn them, did not anathematize them and did not sprinkle ashes on their heads like a Jew. So do not insult the memory of the victims of my Soviet, including Russian, people.
                  1. -3
                    12 September 2025 15: 04
                    Quote: bya965
                    But there is no need. We hanged our traitors and never hid it.

                    Why this dismal lie?

                    Show me where in newspapers and speeches the figures and names of hundreds of thousands of people shot and millions imprisoned for crimes were mentioned?
                    Quote: bya965
                    And the Russian people are with us, we do not like traitors.

                    The Russian people have never elected the Bosheviks anywhere or over anyone - see US.
                    Quote: bya965
                    the great glorious war with the third international

                    Stalin himself waged this war: members of the Comintern waved a pickaxe in Kolyma, and in 43 they completely shut it down.
                    Quote: bya965
                    And something white

                    -Molotov:
                    war against hitlerism-criminal
              2. 0
                12 September 2025 14: 48
                Quote: bya965
                I know one and a half-valued logic (normal programming languages ​​Lisp, C\C++, Python, etc.)...

                ... uuuuu... and I don't know the one and a half digit, very interesting. At least hint what kind of animal it is, and what does si with siplusplus have to do with it Yes
                1. -4
                  12 September 2025 15: 01
                  Yes, it's simple, there is a lie, for example 0, 0.0, an empty string, a NULL pointer, etc.
                  Always a finite and, in principle, small set (for example, in Python this is still an empty list, an empty set, an empty dictionary).
                  Everything else is true
                  1. -1
                    12 September 2025 15: 05
                    Quote: bya965
                    false is for example 0, 0.0, empty string, NULL pointer, etc.

                    Got it. Typecasting - no, haven't heard of it. It's binary logic, laid bare.
                    1. -3
                      12 September 2025 15: 19
                      Quote: Paranoid62
                      Typecasting - no, never heard of it. It's binary logic, laid bare.

                      Typecasting? Why doesn't it growl in Pascal then? And why was it already in Lisp (there, again, an empty list is a lie, and not empty is not), there was no typecasting there. Such a concept didn't exist at all.

                      Once again, there is a set of values ​​(there is some finite number of them) this is a lie, the rest is true. This is accepted (although fractional derivatives can be shoved everywhere, although this is .... specialists in mathematical analysis), for example, I am talking about garbage collection and non-dynamic memory reallocation + a bunch of other conditions and pointer encapsulation.
                      1. 0
                        12 September 2025 15: 23
                        Quote: bya965
                        Type casting?

                        Yes, it is, my dear.

                        Quote: bya965
                        Why doesn't she growl in Pascal then?

                        They didn't implement it. It appeared in C, if I remember correctly.

                        Quote: bya965
                        And why was it already in Lisp (there again an empty list is a lie, but not empty is not), there was no type casting there

                        Just because it wasn't in the programmer's interface doesn't mean it wasn't in the compiler. tongue

                        Quote: bya965
                        Once again there is a set of values...

                        ... enough. Don't make it worse. There is no such thing as one and a half logic, someone has deceived you.
                      2. -3
                        12 September 2025 15: 30
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        Just because it wasn't in the programmer's interface doesn't mean it wasn't in the tongue compiler.

                        There was no programmer then, and you were probably not even in the project.

                        You apparently have some information on OOP, but OOP is very different and depends on dynamic or static typing, whether there is multiple inheritance and whether there is operator overloading (in some languages ​​this includes C++ type casting).

                        In this case, Lisp doesn't use any type casting, just like Pascal doesn't. This is, from a modern perspective, an overload of logical operations for the list type
                      3. +1
                        12 September 2025 15: 34
                        Quote: bya965
                        There was no programmer then

                        How's that?

                        Quote: bya965
                        yes, you are probably even in the project

                        Well, how can I say... I wrote in Pascal, in Xi too... well, probably, yes - I wasn't there laughing

                        Quote: bya965
                        OOP is very different and depends on the typing dynamic or static, whether there is multiple inheritance and whether there is operator overloading

                        Don't fill my tanks. I have my bosses on one side and my clients on the other for that. Don't make it worse, I already said it. I repeat:

                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        There is no such thing as one and a half logic, someone deceived you

                        Everything else is dross and vanity Yes
                      4. -2
                        12 September 2025 15: 51
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        Quote: bya965
                        There was no programmer then

                        How's that?

                        Yes, quietly, there was no such specialty.



                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        Don't fill my tanks. I have my bosses on one side and my clients on the other for that. Don't make it worse, I already said it. I repeat:

                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        There is no such thing as one and a half logic, someone deceived you

                        Everything else is slag and vanity yes

                        Do you have a clientele? And management on the other hand.
                        That's right, don't fuss. There is no one-and-a-half logic, there is one-and-a-half-digit logic:
                        this means that there is a finite meaning for a lie, and (conditionally of course) an infinite truth.
                      5. 0
                        12 September 2025 15: 56
                        Quote: bya965
                        There is no one-and-a-half logic, there is one-and-a-half-valued: this means there is a finite value for a lie, and (conditionally of course) an infinite truth

                        I have never come across such a definition anywhere. Please share the source of knowledge. Yes
                      6. -3
                        12 September 2025 16: 03
                        No time, clients, bosses. laughing
                        And now the AI ​​is looking for me, instead of one and a half digits, it sneezes at three digits.
                        But here there is a different principle.
                      7. 0
                        12 September 2025 16: 13
                        Quote: bya965
                        No time, clients, bosses

                        Well, there's no case for nothing. That is, the existence of one and a half-valued logic remains unproven. Greetings, colleague Yes hi
                      8. -4
                        12 September 2025 16: 15
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        That is - the existence of one and a half-valued logic remains unproven. With regards, colleague yes hi


                        Here's what a colleague of AI wrote to you:
                        C does not have explicit "true" and "false" values, as some other languages ​​do. 0 is interpreted as "false", and any other number other than zero is "true". For more explicit handling of boolean values, it is recommended to use the stdbool.h header file, which introduces true (equal to 1) and false (equal to 0).
                        How it works:
                        True: Any value other than zero (e.g. 1, 5, -3).
                        False: The value is zero (0).
                      9. 0
                        12 September 2025 16: 21
                        I don't understand why you're telling me this. I knew all this back in the forgotten 1988. And yes, I've already said goodbye to you. Yes

                        But logic in the same C is binary, true / false, and inventing some one and a half, IMHO, is not worth it. In order not to multiply entities laughing
              3. +3
                12 September 2025 16: 35
                Good day, in the academic discipline "logic" there are only 6 basic laws (rules). Although a number of theorists single out four of them.
                These laws are applicable in rhetorical discussions. Tatra, simply threw out slogans, and all of them bypassed, not observing the laws of formal logic.
                This is the same as what I would tell you about warm to the question about hot. The rules of "identity". Having developed a discussion about the general, without giving a single argument. The law is a sufficient reason. Total - 2, and their Karl there are only 6!!! Well, if you believe the representatives of Western science, then 4.
                Congratulations on your skills, I used to play around - I made programs that generated schedules and journals for universities. The last thing I did was cobble together a program for a departmental report in 2016. I haven't used Pascal for 15 years for sure - I respect that.
            2. 0
              12 September 2025 17: 42
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              operating in the post with science and logic

              These people can be safely classified as "blind believers". And to operate with facts and appeal to logic in an attempt to convey something are doomed to failure! They believe, and as we know, neither facts nor logic can hinder faith.
            3. -2
              12 September 2025 17: 53
              Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
              Do you at least have a higher education?

              Arguing with the methodology is not such a good idea, in my opinion.
              1. +2
                12 September 2025 17: 58
                Quote: Paranoid62
                Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                Do you at least have a higher education?

                Arguing with the methodology is not such a good idea, in my opinion.

                I agree, but this lady positions herself as a deputy of the Russian State Duma. Realizing this, I feel uneasy, to put it mildly.
                1. -2
                  12 September 2025 18: 03
                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  This lady positions herself as a deputy of the Russian State Duma

                  I have never seen anything like it. And it sounds a lot like whistling, highly artistic.

                  This lady has been here for at least six years, as far as I can remember. Deputies don't live that long. laughing
                  1. +3
                    12 September 2025 18: 05
                    For what I bought, for what I sell.
                    About three years ago they “scared” me with it - who are you throwing the barrel at, you garbage cat!!![i][/i]
                    1. 0
                      12 September 2025 18: 08
                      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                      Three years ago I was “scared” by it

                      I don't know. It amuses me. Ukrainian enemies of communists, enemies of Russian enemies of communists... but what about "the enemy of my enemy is almost a friend"? Here Tatra usually falls into a stupor laughing
                      1. +5
                        12 September 2025 18: 17
                        Lately she's been talking complete nonsense - out of ten comments, only one without "enemies". However, the party's rhetoric and all that - the day before yesterday I accidentally listened to the debates of candidates for the post of governor of the Sverdlovsk region of the Republic of Tatarstan, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia. After a 5-minute mudslinging by the LDPR representative. The latter only managed to ask one question to the lady from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - name the time when we voted to raise taxes and housing and communal services tariffs. The lady immediately floated like "... in an ice hole". However, I don't like the LDPR either. But a fact is a fact.
                        Although maybe I'm harmful.
                      2. -2
                        12 September 2025 18: 23
                        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                        Although maybe I'm harmful

                        We are all good when we sleep. Teeth against the wall (c) request
            4. -3
              12 September 2025 18: 33
              Apart from malicious empty talk, do you have anything else to answer me? And you, the enemies of the USSR "liberated" by Gorbachev, with your inadequately inflated self-esteem, have proven that even the best education and upbringing are of no use to you.
              1. +6
                12 September 2025 19: 09
                My applause and drum roll with tail on tambourine - commentary from Tatra without "enemies"!!!
                It's going to snow tomorrow!
                1. -2
                  12 September 2025 19: 14
                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  comment from Tatra without "enemies"

                  Well, right...

                  Quote: tatra
                  you, 'liberated' by Gorbachev enemies of the USSR with your inadequately high self-esteem, proven

                  Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                  It will snow tomorrow

                  No longer laughing
                  1. +5
                    12 September 2025 19: 22
                    And I was already happy…. feel
                    …☝️…..
                    1. -1
                      12 September 2025 19: 22
                      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                      I was already happy

                      I don't want snow anymore.
                      1. +2
                        12 September 2025 19: 24
                        Here in the Urals we have no options; the heating season will begin in two or three weeks.
            5. +2
              15 September 2025 10: 53
              Vladislav, good morning. I would add - in 1991, there were about 25 million members of the CPSU! About 2,5 million in the army! About 3 million in the security apparatus of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB! And the country... wasted. Many commentators here already served as security officials at that time. But they shamefully keep silent about why they did not come out themselves and did not lead their subordinates out for the "right cause." And only throw around slogans and cliches.
          2. +1
            12 September 2025 13: 16
            P.s. Dear Alexey, I have always treated you very well and will continue to do so. It was my mistake to once again get involved in a discussion about the civil war.
            Have a nice day!
  4. -2
    12 September 2025 05: 46
    The enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people are those who after the October Revolution unleashed the Civil War against the Bolsheviks and their supporters, and those who captured the USSR, according to their evil and aggressive mentality - people - AGAINST. They never had and do not have anything good, useful for their country and people. And they, together with the occupiers of Russia and the USSR, unleashed two wars against the Soviet people, that after their capture and dismemberment of the USSR into their anti-Soviet-Russophobic States, began to unleash wars among themselves.
    And the "reds" will never reconcile with them. And with their totally false history of our country and people, with their justification of the crimes of external and internal enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people.
    1. 0
      12 September 2025 15: 19
      Quote: tatra
      Enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people...

      ... and communists...

      Quote: tatra
      ... never "red" will try on with them...

      ... because they don’t know what and with whom to measure themselves.

      I am amused by the entities that constantly stick mossy manuals in place and out of place. From the times of Ochakov and the conquest of Crimea Yes
  5. +5
    12 September 2025 06: 27
    And the article, as I understand it, was taken from the archive? 75th anniversary of the end of the Great Patriotic War, where is it from? And I would like to know the author's personal attitude to Antonov...
  6. +2
    12 September 2025 08: 11
    The author is not an article, but the delirium of an inflamed brain, aggravated by alcoholic degradation and the use of illegal substances!
    1.
    It should be noted that the rebels did not stand on ceremony with the representatives of the Soviet power, especially with the Chekists. They put responsible workers who fell into their hands to a painful death. According to archives, the rebels destroyed: shot, hanged, raped, tortured and humiliated more than two thousand party, Soviet, Komsomol workers.
    However, the Antonovites did not engage in outright banditry or reprisals against red fighters.

    Oh yeah? And what were these "wonderful guys" doing then?
    2.
    If Antonov had been the bandit that Soviet propaganda portrayed him as, he should have shot all the prisoners on the very first evening. But he left everything until the trial, so that they could be judged by a people's assembly.

    3.
    By the end of May 1921, the peasant army had practically ceased to exist: about 10 thousand of its fighters surrendered during military operations, and one and a half times more of them voluntarily left the forests.
    Only the most irreconcilable remained, no longer counting on leniency, having stained their hands with the blood of their fellow villagers.

    4.
    To this day, the residents of Kirsanov are still terrified by the very name of Alexander Stepanovich Antonov.

    What a twist! Who would have thought?
    5.
    Isn’t that why it is so difficult to argue with any of the numerous characteristics of Alexander Stepanovich Antonov given to him by historians?
    A sadist? Yes. Throughout his entire adult life he has killed many innocent people.
    A revolutionary? Undoubtedly. Until the very end he believed in the revolution and felt obliged to its ideas.
    A romantic? Definitely. Awkwardly, but sincerely tried to build a peasant utopia and fought for it…
    One could go on, and all the definitions would not be enough – because there is something timeless about him: he was born a people’s leader, cruel, inventive, vengeful, but also generous, dreamy, and in some ways even simple-minded.

    The author, that is, Antonov, Denikin, Wrangel, Shkuro, Kolchak, Kappel, Kornilov, Yudenich - these ghouls, in the blood up to their nostrils of workers and peasants killed on their orders - these are the best people of Russia, which we lost, right? Did I understand everything correctly?
    Well then, write down here such scum as Mannerheim and the traitor Vlasov and his fellow traitor generals; like the philosopher Ilyin, who received a salary in Goebbels' department for 3 years. By the way, our guarantor's favorite philosopher.
    The article is a failure!
    The author should be brought to trial under Article 58 for such thoughts!
    1. +1
      12 September 2025 09: 46
      And what were these "wonderful guys" doing then?

      How with what? They sowed, good, reasonable and eternal. Probably, they built schools, railways, power plants, planted gardens, grew bread, and distributed the grown bread to the peasants. laughing By the way, about bread, none of the authors who write here with bated breath about Ungern, "peasant leaders" during the civil war, Antonov, Sapozhkov, Makhno and others, ever write about who supplied these numerous armies? And how did the rebels pay? At the expense of food detachments? Like they took the bread? But again, according to the authors of these articles, the taken bread was returned to the peasants. And what did you eat? Did you go hunting, fishing? Did you feed on sunlight? Or, having driven out the Reds from some village, did you sit on the porch, near the church, stretch out your hands and beg for alms. We ourselves are not locals, give, for Christ's sake, to the liberators from the Bolshevik oppression?
    2. -10
      12 September 2025 11: 23
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      The author, that is, Antonov, Denikin, Wrangel, Shkuro, Kolchak, Kappel, Kornilov, Yudenich - these ghouls, covered in blood up to their nostrils from workers and peasants killed on their orders - these are the best people of Russia, which we lost, right?

      of course it is frontline veterans, who shed blood for Russia in the terrible WWII and defended it, and were awarded many times for their bravery.
      Exactly like this, as well as WWII veterans.

      At the same time, dangers for the Motherland, the "leaders" of the Reds, hiding from the front, got fat on beer in Switzerland, the USA and slept with minors in chicken coops and spoke out for the defeat of Russia.

      It was the Reds who shed the blood of their citizens - from October 25, 17 to 53 - starting from streams to whole rivers of people's blood, by force and deception criminally overthrowing the PEOPLE'S power of the US, the elections in which they lost.

      Let me also remind you that the ENTIRE composition of your illegal so-called first Council of People's Commissars, the Politburo, the Orgburo (except Stalin), almost the entire top leadership of the Red Army, 75% of the Central Committee of the YPR, according to Ships of the USSR - this foreign spies, traitors, poisoners, saboteurs, conspirators according to Prosecutor General of the USSR Vyshinsky they" scum, stinking scum, manure, stinking pile of garbage, filthy dogs, damned vermin"Think about it - the supreme leader of the Red Army and the THIEF Trotsky - an agent of German intelligence since... 1918, an agent of the Gestapo and SS! NOWHERE in the world has there been such disgrace and betrayal

      . This is also said about the "heroes" of this article - Blucher, Antonov Ovsienko, Uborevich, Yakir, etc. The fact that they died as despised, trampled traitors is half the battle, but their families also got what they deserved - in concentration camps set up by their husbands, prisons and execution grounds - the tears of Russian peasants were poured out on them.

      And Denikin and Kappel now rest with honor in the center of Russia, unlike the Bluchers, of whom not a trace remains....

      Article +
      1. 0
        13 September 2025 09: 52
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        The author, that is, Antonov, Denikin, Wrangel, Shkuro, Kolchak, Kappel, Kornilov, Yudenich - these ghouls, covered in blood up to their nostrils from workers and peasants killed on their orders - these are the best people of Russia, which we lost, right?

        of course it is frontline veterans, who shed blood for Russia in the terrible WWII and defended it, and were awarded many times for their bravery.
        Exactly the same as WWII veterans.

        A few words about veterans of the Second Patriotic War.
        Antonov. The son of a mechanic, he graduated from a teachers' seminary. He had nothing to do with the peasants. In 1907, he joined the Socialist Revolutionary Party; as part of the "Tambov Group of Independent Socialist Revolutionaries", he took part in the "expropriations" of government institutions. He was convicted by the tsarist court for the case of inflicting gunshot wounds on a city and forestry conductor; before the military court, he confessed to the robbery at the Inzhavino station in November 1908 - he was sentenced to death, but, by decision of P. Stolypin, the execution was replaced by life imprisonment. He served his sentence in Tambov Prison and Vladimir Central. He was released as a result of the amnesty declared after the February Revolution. Not a day at the front. A true fighter for the Tsar and the Fatherland.
        In 1994, a monument to the "Warriors of the Russian All-Military Union, Russian Corps, Cossack Camp, Cossacks of the 15th Cavalry Corps, Who Died for Faith and Fatherland" was erected in Moscow on the grounds of the Church of All Saints. The monument immortalized von Pannwitz, A. G. Shkuro, P. N. Krasnov, Sultan-Girey Klych, T. N. Domanov, and others.
        For your information:
        Russian General Military Union (abbreviated ROVS) - created in 1924 in the White emigration by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Army, Lieutenant General Baron P.N. Wrangel. During the Great Patriotic War, ROVS served the Nazis, excellent punishers. After the war, in the service of the CIA. Throughout its existence, ROVS is characterized by a pathological hatred of Russians.
        The 15th Cavalry Corps is the 15th SS Cossack Cavalry Corps (XV. SS-Kosaken-Kavallerie-Korps), which fought for the Third Reich until the last bullet.
        Unfortunately, the USSR did not value veterans of the Second Patriotic War, so all those listed on the monument were hanged for serving the Nazis and for war crimes against the civilian population of the USSR.
        Olgovich! I am simply proud of you! You are a classic representative of the 5th column, unless you are broadcasting from Ukraine or Israel. I can easily imagine you in an SS uniform or a Nazi giving the Nazi siege, but I cannot imagine you in the ranks of defenders of Russia. For example, I do not remember any of your indignation at the genocide of Russians, for example, in the Baltic countries.
        Let me also remind you that the ENTIRE composition of your illegal so-called first Council of People's Commissars, the Politburo, the Orgburo (except Stalin), almost the entire top leadership of the Red Army, 75% of the Central Committee, etc., according to The USSR courts are foreign spies, traitors, poisoners, saboteurs, conspirators according to the Prosecutor General of the USSR. Vyshinsky they are "scum, stinking scum, manure, a stinking pile of garbage, filthy dogs, damned vermin." Think about it - the highest leader of the Red Army AND THIEF Trotsky - an agent of German intelligence since... 1918, an agent of the Gestapo and SS! NOWHERE in the world has there been such disgrace and betrayal

        - What a mess of words! You managed to cram the uncrowdable into one sentence. It is strange, in general, when a monarchist spreads the lies of the Trotskyist Khrushchev and Gorbachev's main comrade-in-arms, head of the Propaganda and Agitation Department of the CPSU Central Committee, member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee A.N. Yakovlev. By the way, about the birds. Historians argue about the year in which Yakovlev was recruited into the CIA, but no one doubts this service of his.
        There were three Perestroikas in the USSR:
        0. Trotsky's perestroika - 1928 - 1937;
        1. Khrushchev's perestroika – 1954 – 1964;
        2. Gorbachev's perestroika – 1985 – 1991.
        Khrushchev and Gorby camouflaged the fact that the goal of their Perestroikas was the liquidation of the USSR in order to integrate into the West. In 1929, Trotsky was exiled abroad, where he openly began to propagate his idea that the USSR should be liquidated in the name of the World Revolution. This is also an idea of ​​​​integration into the West, but only under a different sauce. If Gorby began Perestroika, then Trotsky declared the beginning of the struggle for Permanent Revolution, the goal of which is the liquidation of the USSR under the banner of the fight against Stalin's bureaucracy. Remember how Yeltsin fought against party privileges? This is the same Permanent Revolution, only a different view. As a result of Yeltsin's fight against party privileges, the nomenklatura received privileges that they had never dreamed of. If you disagree, then name at least one member of the district committee, regional committee or Central Committee begging for alms. Well, Yeltsin's family simply got rich from the fight against party privileges.
        Just like during Gorbachev's Perestroika, during the Perestroika of 1928-1937, an incredible number of Mr. emerged on the political scene, which you quite rightly described with the words of Vyshinsky. Do you want to say that there are none of them now? And who sets transformer boxes on fire? Well, in 1937, the Big Boys like Tukhachevsky & Co. decided to play Napoleon. Alas for you! In 1937, almost all the foremen of the zero Perestroika were put up against the wall. Which is what infuriates you. Because if it weren't for 1937, you would now be drinking free Bavarian beer and wearing an "R" armband.
        Unfortunately, in 1937 Khrushchev was not put up against the wall. Therefore, during Perestroika 1, he declared all the foremen of Perestroika 0 innocent victims of political repression. Khrushchev launched an unprecedented propaganda campaign of lies aimed at discrediting the USSR. Khrushchev was not allowed to finish off the USSR and Gorby raised the anti-Soviet - Russophobic flag, which fell from his weakened hands. Just one example.
        During the years of Perestroika 2, the honored political worker Colonel General D.A. Volkogonov stated that 1937 people were repressed in the army in 1938-36761 and more than 3 thousand in the navy. In total, more than 40 thousand. True, Volkogonov stipulated that not all of them were shot.
        The chief ideologist of the Central Committee of the CPSU, A. N. Yakovlev, the same one who was also a CIA employee, stated that
        …1937 thousand officers were shot in 1938–70.

        V.N. Rapoport and Yu.A. Geller:
        Therefore, we are forced to assume that the loss of personnel [in the army] during the two years of the purge amounted to approximately 100 thousand people.
        .
        V.S. Koval:
        Without a war, almost the entire magnificent officer corps—the backbone of the Red Army—perished in the dungeons and camps of the NKVD.
        .
        — It’s not enough! That’s why D.E. Melnikov and L.B. Chernaya:
        …The entire middle command staff also perished at the hands of the executioners
        .
        - That's it! Let me remind you that the middle command staff includes officers with ranks from junior lieutenant to captain.
        Olgovich:
        ...almost the entire top leadership of the Red Army...

        - Compared to the masters, it's weak! You're lying without inspiration.
        In reality, according to archive data for the period from January 1, 1937 to May 1, 1940, 36898 people were discharged from the army for various reasons, including illness, age limit, breach of discipline, etc.
        Under Article 58, 9913 servicemen were convicted, 1364 people were sentenced to capital punishment. Of these arrested, 1457 were reinstated in 1938-1939.
        In addition, in 1937-1939, 19106 people were dismissed for political reasons. For example, all Germans, Balts, etc. were dismissed from the army as unreliable. Of these, 9247 were subsequently reinstated in 1938-1939.
        Thus, the total number of officers convicted for political reasons in 1937-1939 (excluding the Air Force and Navy) is 8122 (of whom not all were shot) and 9859 dismissed from the army for the same reasons.
        It is impossible to prove that those executed were innocent because the criminal cases of rehabilitated victims of political repression have been mostly destroyed, and the remaining part is classified and inaccessible to researchers.
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          13 September 2025 11: 08
          Quote: Old electrician
          A few words about veterans of the Second Patriotic War

          on: Denikin-Participant Russo-Japanese War. One of the most effective generals of the Russian Imperial Army during the WWII, awarded a golden weapon "For bravery", the orders of St. George, Vladimir, etc.,

          Yudenich-Participant Russo-Japanese War. One of the most successful generals of the Russian Imperial Army during the period Tue. awarded with golden weapons "For bravery", the orders of St. George, Vladimir, etc.,

          The same goes for other Russian leaders.

          But is there at least one member of the PB defending the Fatherland? NOT ONE - they all hid abroad, under the skirts of minors
          Quote: Old electrician
          pathological hatred of Russians.

          yours have nothing to do with Russians
          Quote: Old electrician
          In the USSR, veterans of the Second Patriotic War were not valued

          Naturally, they were ashamed of their betrayal in 1918, so they tore down ALL the monuments to the Russian heroes of the VTOV, ALL the cemeteries of the fallen VTOV, trampling their memory into the mud. And after that, you are Russian?! belay
          Quote: Old electrician
          The 15th Cavalry Corps is the 15th Cossack Corps.

          A MILLION of your SOVIET citizens fought for Hitler, this has never happened before in Russian history.
          Quote: Old electrician
          lies
          Righteousness: The ENTIRE composition of your illegal so-called first Council of People's Commissars, Politburo, Orgburo (except Stalin), almost the entire top leadership of the Red Army, 75% of the Central Committee of the YPR, according to the Court of the USSR - these are foreign spies, traitors, poisoners, saboteurs, conspirators, according to the Prosecutor General of the USSR Vyshinsky they are "scum, stinking garbage, manure, a stinking pile of garbage, filthy dogs, damned vermin." Think about it - the top leader of the Red Army and a THIEF Trotsky - an agent of German intelligence since ... 1918, an agent of the Gestapo and SS! NOWHERE in the world has there been such disgrace and betrayal
          Quote: Old electrician
          During the Perestroika of 1928-1937, an incredible amount of Mr. emerged on the political scene, which you quite rightly described in the words of Vyshinsky.

          and this is all YOUR shit, remember, nowhere in the world has there been so much!
          Quote: Old electrician
          Well, in 1937, the Big Boys like Tukhachevsky & Co. decided to play Napoleon. Alas for you! In 1937, almost all the foremen of the zero Perestroika were put up against the wall. Which is what pisses you off.

          Yes, I'm glad that the paranoid bandits killed the sober bandits, by the way - where are the trophy documents from Berlin with the recruitment of Tukhachevsky, Trotsky? Are you looking for something else? lol
          Quote: Old electrician
          he declared all the foremen of Perestroika 0 innocent victims of political repression

          you lie - the courts rehabilitated you
          Quote: Old electrician
          Compared to the masters it will be weak! You lie somehow without inspiration.

          Didn't you go to school at all? Marshals were destroyed 60%, army commanders rank 1,2, fleet flagships rank 1,2, corps commanders - 100%, brigade commanders - 76%, division commanders 52%- I spoke about the top staff.
          Quote: Old electrician
          The criminal cases of rehabilitated victims of political repression have been mostly destroyed, the remainder are classified and inaccessible to researchers

          it was not available in Stalinist times - they were afraid to death of what you did, all cases were raised, investigated and people were acquitted.

          And to get it across to you, it was PHYSICALLY impossible 682 thousand executed и Millions of camp cases to be investigated in ONE year 37-38.
          As Marshal of Victory Zhukov said at the plenum of the Central Committee:
          We believed these people, wore their portraits, and blood dripped from their hands... They rolled up their sleeves, with an axe in their hands, chopped off heads... Like cattle, they drove them to the slaughterhouse according to a list: so many bulls, so many cows, so many sheep... If only the people knew the truth, they would have met them not with applause, but with stones
          .
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            13 September 2025 15: 50
            It was obvious to me even before that you are a great liar:
            And so that you understand - it was PHYSICALLY impossible to investigate 682 thousand executions and millions of camp cases in ONE year 37-38.

            The only official document that can be conditionally considered as some kind of semblance of an accusation of the USSR in mass unjustified terror is the official letter of the Minister of Internal Affairs Sergei Kruglov, the Prosecutor General of the USSR Roman Rudenko and the Minister of Justice Konstantin Gorshenin, sent to Khrushchev in February 1954. At that time, Khrushchev was already preparing his famous report and he needed figures on the repressions that would horrify the public. However, no loud figures were voiced in the letter, so it never saw the light of day.
            Experts believe that the figures cited in this letter are somewhat exaggerated to please Khrushchev, but there simply are no other official figures and never will be. Because then it would be impossible to lie about the millions of people shot. This letter stated:
            According to the data available in the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, for the period from 1921 to the present, 3 people were convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes by the OGPU Collegium, NKVD troikas, a Special Meeting, the Military Collegium, courts and military tribunals, including: to capital punishment - 777 people, to detention in camps and prisons for a period of 380 years and below - 642 people, to exile and deportation - 980 people.
            Out of the total number of those arrested, tentatively convicted: 2 900 000 people - by the OGPU College, NKVD troika and Special Meeting; 877 000 people - courts, military tribunals, the Special Collegium and the Military Collegium.
            At present, there are 467 prisoners convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes in camps and prisons, and in addition, there are 946 people in exile after serving their sentences for counter-revolutionary crimes, sent under the directive of the MGB and the USSR Prosecutor's Office (signed by Abakumov and Safonov).
            .
            The number of those convicted from 1921 to 1954, and not in one year as you lie, includes your beloved Vlasovites, Banderaites, White Guard scum, etc., etc.
            As I said, the numbers in the letter are exaggerated. After that, there was not a single official attempt to estimate the scale of those convicted under Article 58, so hated by Jews. You can lie as much as you want. So calm down in your Russophobia.
            Naturally, they were ashamed of their betrayal in 1918, so they tore down ALL the monuments to the Russian heroes of the VTOV, ALL the cemeteries of the fallen VTOV, trampling their memory into the mud. And after that, you are Russian?!

            - Well, you certainly have no shame or conscience if you admire the WWII veterans who served Hitler.
            Typical blah-blah-blah of a liar Russophobe. "That's why ALL monuments to Russian heroes of the VTOV were torn down" - name where and which monuments to the VTOV were torn down.
            When in 1916 Generals Evert and Kuropatkin failed the general Russian offensive to please the German Tsarina, it became clear that Russia would not win this war. After that, Evert's Western Front and Kuropatkin's Northwestern Front were sharply revolutionized, and less than six months remained until the February War. But that's by the way. Russian soldiers wounded near Baranovichi were placed in Moscow hospitals, and the dead were buried in the cemetery behind the Church of All Saints. It's near the Sokol metro station. In the first years of Soviet power, a monument to soldiers of the First World War who died of their wounds was erected there. Nowadays, the liberal White Guard m-no and their descendants have turned this place of remembrance into a monument to the SS, Vlasovites, and other servants of Hitler. After this, you won't get anything else speak some kind of betrayal.
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              14 September 2025 12: 37
              Quote: Old electrician
              In the number of those convicted from 1921 to 1954, and not in one year as you are lying

              For
              : Certificates from the Special Department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs on the number of people arrested and convicted by the Cheka - OGPU - NKVD - USSR MGB in 1921–1953. December 11, 1953
              Central Archives of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. F. K-1-os. Op. 9. por. 65. L. 98-115

              On the affairs of the NKVD bodies for 1937-1938

              VMN 681692


              Quote: Old electrician
              where and what monuments to the WWII were demolished.

              ALL the memorials and CEMETERIES of Russian soldiers in Moscow, Tselo, St. Petersburg, Vyazma, Rostov and further EVERYWHERE - not a single one, the beasts, were left, but they arranged on them... vegetable gardens and dance floors
              Quote: Old electrician
              and the dead were buried in the cemetery behind the Church of All Saints. This is near the Sokol metro station. In the first years of Soviet power, a monument to soldiers of the First World War who died of their wounds was erected there.

              fool no shame, no conscience - the Brotherhood cemetery was destroyed in 1932, the cathedral-monument to soldiers - in 1940
              On the site of the graves there are dance platforms and houses.

              The same with Russian monuments and cemeteries of OV 1812, RYaV, RTV, 1612 - non-humans did this
  7. +2
    12 September 2025 08: 20
    The authors, especially the main one, write about the rates of the Bank of Russia, and what you came up with here is just an opinion about Antonov's rebellion, and a biased one at that. With inconsistencies, with exaggerations... I won't give even a penny to support the authors.
  8. +2
    12 September 2025 08: 29
    The author of the article openly sympathizes with Antonov and his rebellion /calling it an uprising/ This campaign were outright bandits, yes, with a good organization and pseudo-ideas. Which took advantage of the difficult situation of the young Soviet government and practically stabbed it in the back. No one denies that the backbone of the rebels were wealthy peasants /kulaks/ The Bolsheviks acted using the carrot and stick method, where the carrot was the food tax, NEP and amnesty, and the stick was repressive measures for those who did not submit. It turned out to be effective. It is worth learning.
  9. -1
    12 September 2025 09: 24
    More than a hundred years ago, the Bolsheviks won, although they had to defeat many enemies, which they acquired for themselves.

    Hand face.
  10. +4
    12 September 2025 12: 31
    In this case, shells of the AZhO type with chloropicrin tear gas were used. Three cases of their use were documented. In particular, the combat diary of the artillery division of the Zavolzhsky Military District brigade recorded that on July 13, 1921, the following were used in battle: three-inch grenades - 160, shrapnel - 69, chemical grenades - 47.

    Chloropicrin is the same substance that is used in "chemical tents" to check the serviceability and fit of gas masks. Almost everyone who has gone through NVP and GO has sniffed this tear-removing agent at least once.
    It is noteworthy that in addition to chemical shells with chloropicrin, the Reds had a gas cylinder company with a real combat toxic agent - chlorine. But after an inspection of this company by gas technician V. Puskov, it was established that the technical equipment and training of personnel were such that the company would poison itself at the first launch.
    The company does not have any combat chemical weapons, and chemical reconnaissance and meteorological observations are not conducted.
    (…)
    Due to the foregoing, namely: constant outfits and lack of command personnel and uniforms, training sessions are not conducted, people are completely untrained, and the chemical production unit in relation to gas fighting is absolutely unprepared and not combat ready. Gas engineer V. Puskov
    © A. Bobkov. On the issue of using asphyxiating gases to suppress the Tambov uprising.
    Therefore, the company left for its permanent deployment location.
    In general, chlorine was used by the Reds in Tambov region only once - and only for a demonstration performance in front of their own. For this, cadets from the Moscow Higher Military Chemical School were brought in.
    At the initiative of Kasinov, on July 26, a team of cadets of the Moscow Higher Military Chemical School (M. Khozhankov, V. Kukin, V. Gavrilov), under the leadership of the head of the technical department of this educational institution N. Ivonin, gave lectures on military chemical business. And on July 16, in the arena of the Tambov cavalry barracks, an “exemplary fumigation” was carried out, for which two cylinders of chlorine were used up. This was the only known "gas-cylinder attack" during the suppression of the Tambov uprising.
    © A. Bobkov. On the issue of using asphyxiating gases to suppress the Tambov uprising.
    On August 3, the battery commander of the Belgorod Artillery Courses reported to the artillery chief of the 6th combat section that 65 shrapnel shells, 49 grenades and 59 chemical shells were fired during the shelling of the island on Lake Kipets. According to local residents, the chemical shells led to the deaths of not only the rebels, but also the civilian population.

    Yeah... and according to the Reds' documents, live horses were found in the area of ​​chemical shelling. Chloropicrin, after all.
    1. +1
      12 September 2025 12: 59
      About 10 years ago, famous people communicated on the Internet with users of the site Hyde Park. At that time, Medynsky called for declaring Tukhachevsky's use of gases against the rebel "Antonovites" to be genocide. And I asked him on this site - why does he want to declare it genocide if not a single person died from the gases? And he answered that he had studied well in NVP classes at school how dangerous these gases are.
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    4. -2
      13 September 2025 03: 31
      Anti-Sovietism is the highest form of Russophobia. All anti-Sovietism is based on lies. In turn, the author Alexey Podymov is a unique Russophobic liar who uses equally false "sources" to justify his lies:
      …in the battle the following were used: three-inch grenades – 160, shrapnel – 69, chemical grenades – 47…

      This quote is from the blatantly illiterate, mendacious, Russophobic article by A.S. Bobokov, “On the Question of Using Asphyxiating Gases to Suppress the Tambov Uprising,” published in the Military Historical Journal, No. 1, 2011. Currently, various versions of this article have been cloned many times and are actively distributed on the Internet.
      Bobkov Alexander Sergeevich is a respected enthusiastic historian, a specialist in the history of the Civil War. In particular, he is known for his publications on the use of chemical weapons by the interventionists against the Red Army. Regarding this article, Bobkov stated:
      I, Alexander Sergeevich Bobkov, officially declare that the article published in No. 1 of the Military Historical Journal for 2011 and signed in my name was not written by me. I didn’t write this, and I couldn’t write it, because I categorically disagree with so many conclusions and provisions of this article. An official letter will certainly be sent to the editorial office of the journal with a demand to remove this publication, or to publish a refutation ...

      Bobkov's statement could be read on the website of the scientific and educational magazine "Skepsis". I don't know now.
      It goes without saying that the article was not removed from the Military Historical Journal, and the refutation was not published. Bobkov's refutation does not apply to clones of the "article" at all.
      An anonymous article under the false authorship of the pseudo-Bobkov is a uniquely illiterate nonsense with links to the lying "pioneers". For example:
      96. Domozhirov N.N. Episodes of the partisan war // Military Bulletin. 1922. No. 5-6

      - According to official information, the archive of the magazine "Military Herald" exists only from 01.1928 to 01.1994. Since the issues of this magazine before 1928 are not even in the archives, then you can lie so much that the foam will flow over the edge...
      Speaking of birds. Domozhirov is a real historical figure. According to the fake Bobkov, Domozhirov was allegedly the head of a combat section. And it is not known what number - there were six of them. According to the falsifiers, it was Domozhirov who was the executioner who poisoned the unfortunate peasants with poison gases. Alas, for the falsifiers, but Domozhirov's biography is known:
      Domozhirov Nikolai Nikolaevich (31.10.1886-1922) officer of the 4th mortar art. division. Member of the World War. Captain. He graduated from the preparatory course of the Nikolaev Military Academy (1917; 2nd stage). By graduation at the headquarters of the 2nd Infantry Division.
      Voluntarily joined the Red Army (spring 1918). Assigned to the General Staff by order of the General Staff No. 22 of 23.03.1918/18/27.06.1918. Transferred to the General Staff by order of the All-Glavshtab No. 21.10.1918 on 30.10.1918/19.02.1919/19.02. Received an appointment as a consultant for the operational department of the People's Commissariat of War. Chief of Staff of the Northern Front (26.05.1919/06.1919/07.11.1919 (actually - 04.11.1919/15.07.1919/07.08.1920) - 1921/22/1921). Chief of Staff of the Western Front (1922.-XNUMX). In XNUMX the Cheka was arrested in the case of the Field Headquarters. He was released on November XNUMX, XNUMX under an amnesty declared by the All-Russian Central Executive Committee on November XNUMX, XNUMX with a ban on holding positions of responsibility. Included in the lists of the General Staff of the Red Army on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Head of the Ryazan infantry courses. In XNUMX he was the head of the XNUMX infantry Kursk courses. In XNUMX-XNUMX - head of the Oryol Military Educational Institution. Died of typhus.
      - and where is the service as the head of the combat section? In 1921, Domozhirov was on the list of politically unreliable. Therefore, he was used in the "safe" position of head of infantry courses. He did not participate in the suppression of the "peasant" uprising at all. In 1922, the article "Episodes of the Guerrilla War" could not be published for the simple reason that the Antonov mutiny was officially called political banditry, but not a guerrilla movement.
      There is no time or desire to analyze the article of the false Bobkov in detail. Fighting falsifiers of history in the Russian Federation is like fighting windmills.
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        15 September 2025 11: 06
        Quote: Old electrician
        Bobkov's statement could be read on the website of the scientific and educational magazine "Skepsis". I don't know now.

        Now there is the text of the article with an afterword.
        Original text of the article.
        A fundamentally distorted version of the article was published in the Military Historical Journal, 2011, No. 1. The author of the article is forced to state:
        "I, Bobkov Alexander Sergeevich, officially declare that the article published in issue #1 of the "Military Historical Journal" for 2011 and signed with my name was not written by me. I did not write this, and could not have written it, since I categorically disagree with many of the conclusions and provisions of this article. An official letter will certainly be sent to the editorial board of the journal demanding that this publication be removed or a refutation published."

        https://scepsis.net/library/id_2974.html?ysclid=mfktwx00j6629921652

        The catch is that the article on the Skepsis website, marked as "Original text of the article", also contains a dozen links to:
        Domozhirov N.N. Episodes of the Guerrilla War // Military Bulletin. 1922. No. 5-6. Pp. 39-43, No. 12. Pp. 45-48.
  11. +1
    12 September 2025 14: 18
    And to intimidate the population in the rebel zone, mass executions of hostages were used.
    This is vile.
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      13 September 2025 05: 09
      You are absolutely right! To brazenly lie about mass shootings is vile!
  12. 0
    12 September 2025 18: 17
    One of the characteristic episodes of the Antonov Uprising and its suppression is the odyssey of armored train No. 121.
    According to order No. 236 of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic dated August 23, 1921, armored train No. 121 was awarded the Honorary Revolutionary Red Banner, becoming the sixth and last armored train in the history of the Civil War to be awarded this high award.
    But on May 27, the commander of the Tambov province troops, Tukhachevsky, signed an order to award the Order of the Red Banner to all members of the armored train crew - from the commander to the lubricator and drivers.
  13. -2
    12 September 2025 18: 38
    The enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people have not changed for all 107 years of the Soviet and their evil and totally false anti-Soviet period, they still unleash wars, they still always and in everything sow malice and hatred AGAINST others. And they have proven that it does not matter at all to them - against whom to do all this - against Soviet communists and their supporters, or against the same as they, enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people.
  14. +2
    12 September 2025 19: 19
    Even G.K. Zhukov in his memoirs dedicated a whole chapter to the Antonov rebellion in Tambov region, but not a word was written about Kirsanov, where he was, fought, and received his first award – the Order of the Red Banner of War.

    ,,,It was a hard day for us. The loss of many of our comrades in arms was a painful echo in the hearts of each of us. Only the knowledge that such a large gang had been routed brought satisfaction.

    For this outstanding feat, most of the command and political staff and fighters were awarded government awards. I was also awarded. This is what was stated in the order of the Revolutionary Military Council No. 183 of August 31, 1922:

    "The commander of the 2nd squadron of the 1st cavalry regiment of the separate cavalry brigade was awarded the Order of the Red Banner for the fact that in the battle near the village of Vyazovaya Pochta in Tambov province on March 5, 1921, despite the enemy attacks with a force of 1500-2000 sabres, he and his squadron held back the enemy onslaught for 7 hours and, then going on the counterattack, after 6 hand-to-hand fights, defeated the gang."

    Memories and reflections
    G. K. Zhukov (1974) Volume 1
  15. -1
    12 September 2025 19: 35
    Thanks to the author!
    This was written five years ago but only now published?

    "Those terrible times have long since passed. Another terrible one, the Great Patriotic War, was and has passed... This year we will celebrate its 75th anniversary of victory. Everything should be forgotten, everything should be reconciled."
  16. -1
    12 September 2025 21: 04
    Were there similar events in other regions and provinces at that time?
    Between Moscow and St. Petersburg. Or in Tver, Smolensk, Vologda, Saratov.
    It turns out I don't know anything about the history of my region. I remember stories, but from about 42. And these are stories from our century already.
  17. -1
    13 September 2025 09: 31
    But, to this day, the residents of Kirsanov are still overcome with horror at the mere name of Alexander Stepanovich Antonov.
    Thanks, I laughed... The author is not deprived of the talent of a storyteller. But about the mind... It's all not so simple.©
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  20. +1
    13 September 2025 12: 32
    I will repeat a simple thought once again. Anti-Sovietism is the highest form of Russophobia. First the fall of Lenin, and then the genocide of Russians. This is the reality of our time. All anti-Sovietism is based on lies. Washington Regional Committee propagandist Alexey Podymov writes:
    The rebel army had a temporary charter that prohibited robbing the local population, reprisals against prisoners and their families. But the province was flooded with various bandit gangs, even Tukhachevsky wrote that Antonov had only 10 thousand worthy fighters, and the remaining 40 thousand were in bandit and semi-bandit gangs. However, for ideological reasons, all the bandits were attributed to Antonov. It was very convenient to accuse him of banditry.

    - a classic attempt to whitewash a black dog. Moreover, one liar quotes another. Thus, a certain Andrei Polunin on June 23, 2010, burst out with an article "Alexander Antonov: The Last Wolf of Tambov Region June 24 is the day of the death of the leader of the peasant uprising that shook Soviet Russia, published by OOO ID Svobodnaya Pressa:
    There was strict discipline, military courts. The Antonovites did not deal with the Reds. They had a temporary charter that prohibited the robbery of the local population, reprisals against prisoners and their families...

    - do you see the original source? By the way, about the birds. Since you are quoting Polunin, then quote to the end:
    ...By that time, the uprising in Tambov region had been brutally suppressed. Suffice it to say that, on Tukhachevsky's orders, the Antonov positions were shelled with howitzers containing poisonous mustard gas...

    Otherwise, you're spouting some nonsense about shells with chloropicrin. For those who aren't in the know. Laboratory mustard gas was produced in the USSR in 1926. Industrial production of mustard gas in the USSR began in 1941 after intelligence discovered that the Germans had shells with mustard gas in the Leningrad area.
    As for the ban on robbing the local population, etc., both are lying. Antonov's army really did have 10 ideological and semi-ideological scumbags who were up to their elbows and even their heads in peasant blood. Because there were practically no Bolsheviks in Tambov in 1920-1921. The remaining 40 forcibly mobilized were more or less adequate and the majority were subsequently amnestied.
    Let me explain how they got into these 40 thousand, declared by Alexey Podymov as bandit and semi-bandit gangs. My great-great peasants from the village of Kalugino, Inzhavinsky district, Tambov province. The very center of the rebellion. My great-great were neither communists nor employees of the Soviet government. In the spring of 1921, Antonov declared a total mobilization, which also affected my grandfather. I will note that it was not Zelya who came up with the idea of ​​​​total mobilization with the help of the TCC. In order to tie the recruits with blood, they were still unarmed, driven to the neighboring village to rob. By that time, against the background of these friendly robberies (50 thousand not only to feed, but also to enrich the fathers-commanders on this), the Bolshevik food tax already seemed like a minor misunderstanding to the peasants. My grandfather was not imbued with the ideas of the Socialist Revolutionaries and fled from the Tambov province under the noise. He returned home only in 1931.
    Desertion from a gang was considered a flagrant crime. Therefore, the chieftain of the gang that supervised Kalugino drove my great-grandfather, great-grandmother and grandfather's sisters into the house, ordered the door to be boarded up and the thatched roof to be set on fire. Fortunately, the bandits did not have time to supervise the execution of the sentence, and the family was saved. The fact that my ancestors were saved was a rare exception to the rule. Some villages were burned down to the last house during the fight against the food tax.
    I project a similar situation onto myself. If some kulak scum had burned my family alive, I would have joined the ChON and killed the kulak degenerates regardless of their gender and age. Which is what happened in practice. During such operations, Arkady Gaidar (an absolutely hated name in Tambov region) went crazy.
    The Washington Regional Committee propagandist, rolling his eyes in indignation, writes about concentration camps. Concentration camps were the salvation of kulak families from revenge. They were sent there to collect evicted families in the party and send them to settlements in other regions. The alternative to the concentration camp for kulak families was the CHON and the nearest ravine.
    The Washington Regional Committee propagandist writes:
    The total number of the population of the Tambov province subjected to repression, according to archival data, is estimated at 50-70 thousand people.

    - What archival data are we talking about? The Russophobic publication "Posev"?
    Alexey Podymov! You are actually lying rather weakly. They won't understand you in Washington. Learn from the professionals from the Posev publishing house:
    At that time, in the Kazan Monastery, day and night, a continuous conveyor belt of mass executions of captured partisans and rebels was going on. The Tambov Provincial Cheka worked in two shifts. Two gas generator gas vans transported people who had suffocated in them from the districts to the banks of the Tsna River, where they were buried together with those who had been shot under the monastery wall…
    …Nobody knows how many people were brought in by special vehicles and suffocated in them from the gas…

    - And here you are muttering about some 70 thousand.
    As a result of a well-organized and executed operation by the Chekists, the house in the village was surrounded. Aleksandr Antonov, who was hiding in it with his brother Dmitry, refused to surrender, and during the shootout both were killed. On July 16, 1922, the liquidation of the "Socialist Revolutionary-kulak" rebellion in the Tambov province was officially announced.
    - gee-gee-gee!
    Dear propagandist of the Washington Regional Committee! You have to lie professionally! Not on July 16, 1922, but July 1921, XNUMX The authorized commission and the Tambov provincial party committee published a message that soon became known in all villages:
    Antonov's gangs are routed. The bandits surrender, handing over their leaders. The peasantry has recoiled from the Socialist Revolutionary-bandit government. It has entered into a decisive struggle with the bandit gangs. The final collapse of Socialist Revolutionary banditry and the peasantry's full cooperation in the struggle against it allow the Soviet government to suspend the use of exceptional measures.

    On topic. Yakov Sanzhikov was a peasant, a native of the village of Kalugino (the Sanzhikov family house stood not far from my grandfather's house, my father went to school with his daughter), a non-commissioned officer in the First World War, served in the Cossack troops. In the fall of 1918, during a peasant rebellion, Sanzhikov shot some authorized representative of the Soviets who mercilessly tyrannized the peasants, then hid in the woods with deserters. In the summer of 1919, during the call-up of deserters to the gang, Sanzhikov believed Antonov and, having combat experience, authority and respect among the peasants, became his chief of the guard. Subsequently, Sanzhikov understood all the mendacity and meanness of the Socialist Revolutionaries in relation to the peasantry and in July 1921 he turned himself in to the Soviets. With the permission of the Cheka, he and other former Antonovites organized a detachment similar to the Latin American "death squads". As part of this detachment, Sanzhikov eliminated the leaders of the Antonov regime - his former comrades in the top ranks of the rebels and the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Fortunately, he knew them all by sight. The first on the execution list was Antonov himself. Contrary to modern propagandists, the peasants' act of revenge against Antonov was not an arrest. Sanzhikov simply and without fuss set fire to the house where Antonov and his brother were hiding, and thus put them before a simple choice: to burn alive or be shot. When they tried to get out of the burning house, the charred Antonov and his brother were finished off with point-blank shots. This is usually how they shoot mad dogs - they shoot until the anger passes or the bullets run out.
    Thousands of leaflets with photographs of the murdered Antonov brothers were produced and posted throughout all populated areas - in churches and stores, on almost every fence and pole, and dropped from airplanes.
    - Hee-hee-hee! Another lie. Judging by my grandfather and his neighbors, the Tambov peasants didn't give a damn about Antonov. They wanted a peaceful life. No one remembered any leaflets about this.
    In 1919, the Irish Rebellion began, which was brutally suppressed by the British. The angry Irish still hate the British. The truce between Britain and the IRA is very shaky and can be broken at any moment. During the Second World War, the Irish collaborated with the Germans, and I cannot blame them for that.
    Nowadays, Washington Regional Committee propagandists, having no military-police education, attribute the actions of the Little Britons to Tukhachevsky's troops. If this were so, then Tambov region in general, and Kalugino in particular, would have become famous for their collaborationism during the war. However, what is not, is not. Not counting the order bearers, three Heroes of the Soviet Union returned from the war to Kalugino. There was not a single traitor from Kalugino.
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    3 February 2026 00: 44
    The wealthy peasantry—and in Tambov Oblast, it constituted almost half—naturally rejected the idiotic economic system and ideology of the Bolsheviks. They were the cream of the peasantry and the cream of the Russian nation, and they rose up against communist tyranny. Glory to the heroes, shame and curses to the executioners Blank, Tukhachevsky, and Co.