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Defense Ministry: All the shortcomings of the Su-34 eliminated

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Manufacturers have eliminated the shortcomings of the Su-34, which they were pointed out to in the military department, First Army Secretary of Defense Arkady Bakhin said on Friday.

“Not so long ago, we had a number of claims to the industry on the application of this completely new technology for us. Today, the 7 thousandth base completes the transition to the Su-34 instead of the Su-24 aircraft. I must honor our industry, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant, and flight crews that the shortcomings that we presented to the industry have been eliminated, ”Bakhin said, RIA reports.News».

What kind of claims were discussed, not specified.

At the beginning of December, 2012, Izvestia, citing a representative of the Ministry of Defense, reported that all the Su-34 troops sent to the army had significant defects that impeded their full-fledged combat use. shortcomings were called bad soldering of contacts and knots that were not fully fitted. Later, the Ministry of Defense officially denied this information.

It became known earlier that the Su-34 was first used in combat conditions, when last year it made several combat missions against the alleged locations of militants in Dagestan and Ingushetia. Details of those operations and the type of precision applied weapons still remain unknown. However, representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense described the results of the use of new aircraft as “generally good”, emphasizing that in the conditions of the forest and mountainous terrain, where targets were found, it was hardly possible to achieve better results.
In accordance with the contract signed between the holding company “Sukhoi” and the Ministry of Defense, the Russian Air Force will receive up to 2020 of the year 92 of the Su-34 front-line bomber.

Among the features of the new generation of aircraft, experts call, in particular, an increase in the flight range to 4000 km, a maximum speed to 1,9 thousand km / h, as well as the installation of the latest weapon system. The 34-mm gun appeared on the Su-30, the combat load increased to 8 tons.

In terms of combat capabilities, the Su-34 belongs to the “4+” generation of aircraft. Regardless of the time of day and weather conditions, it is capable of effectively hitting ground, sea and air targets in any geographic area using the entire nomenclature aviation ammunition, including high-precision.

Installed on the Su-34 equipment allows you to use weapons on several targets simultaneously. Excellent aerodynamics, large capacity of internal fuel tanks, highly economical double-circuit engines with a digital control system, an in-flight refueling system, as well as a suspension of additional fuel tanks ensure that the Su-34 can fly long distances approaching the flight ranges of strategic bombers.

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  1. L. konstantin
    L. konstantin April 20 2013 06: 35
    44 th
    AHA write here! right now everyone will start screaming cheers minus pluses! but I know what it’s not up to you minus!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 20 2013 06: 45
      25
      Quote: L. Konstantin
      but I know what it’s not up to you minus!

      Are you an Air Force pilot and fly to SU 34 or are you related to its production? If not, then your koment, just BLA-BLA-BLA. Mustache gone yes wink
      If a person knows everything in all areas, then he really does not know anything!
      1. Sakhalininsk
        Sakhalininsk April 20 2013 07: 13
        19
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Are you an Air Force pilot and fly to SU 34 or are you related to its production? If not, then your koment, just BLA-BLA-BLA. The mustache is gone. Yes. If a person knows everything in all areas, then he really does not know anything!


        Good afternoon Alexander hi but what kind of ice he is, at this troll a marsh valve and a lid simultaneously tear even from a third of the overload of the pilots of the handsome men represented. He is knowledgeable, so to speak, but that everything is lost ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 20 2013 07: 27
          +4
          Quote: Sakhalininets
          It’s knowledgeable, so to speak, and that everything is lost

          Hello, Sergey! Yes, I know, there he is frozen by the beauties of Sweden in other comments. Boring in the morning, and then oops just flew in - you read nonsense and everything becomes more fun bully
          1. rolik
            rolik April 20 2013 23: 50
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            he beauties there be frozen Sweden

            Yeah, yeah, the beauty of Sweden. We know we know these beauties. Especially beautiful they accustom their children to non-traditional orientation. Right from the school bench. A nation of degenerates.
            1. StolzSS
              StolzSS April 21 2013 05: 53
              +1
              Well, Sweden itself is a beautiful country, but the fact that there is a geyropa there is so to blame for them, by the way, and there are both local and foreign terrorists, for example, Algerians)))
      2. eagle11
        eagle11 April 20 2013 07: 14
        +4
        "Today the 7 base is completing the transition to the Su-34 instead of the Su-24."
        That's only 7000 AvBs, it's not only Baltimore, does Monchegorsk hold back or is it not 7000 AvBs anymore?
      3. SPACE
        SPACE April 20 2013 07: 15
        +8
        Quote: L. Konstantin
        AHA write here! right now everyone will start screaming cheers

        URA-URA-URA laughing
        A pig is everywhere, dirt will find. That's what kind of people.
      4. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 20 2013 11: 56
        +9
        The most powerful and effective blow to the trolls is not to notice them! After all, they have no friends and girls, they lack communication. If he writes something neutral or good, they will vryatli answer. And so bad writes and people get angry and answer - the result is at least some kind of communication. Therefore, the most effective is to ignore them.
      5. Army1
        Army1 April 20 2013 15: 38
        +2
        Do not pay attention to them, get sick.
        It’s like in that joke:
        -Who served in the army, that L @@@@ X!
        -Argument your position!
        - I can’t, I PI @@@@@@@@ BOL!
    2. Army1
      Army1 April 20 2013 16: 19
      +5
      I’m afraid to imagine that if the USSR didn’t break up, we probably had space cruisers.
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan April 20 2013 20: 36
        +5
        And don’t say, you are amazed, what wasn’t there ?!
  2. UFO
    UFO April 20 2013 06: 35
    +2
    "Wai, what a stern bird!", Like a boy in childhood, I want to stand in the field and look, with my head raised and hiding my hand from the sun. winked
  3. itr
    itr April 20 2013 06: 49
    +8
    poor soldering of contacts and nodes not fully fitted it's just pindan. Che and there people from Central Asia work ?? I think the solution is just like three pennies. Pilots fly soldering irons. Well, so the planes “Generally good”
  4. V. Ushakov
    V. Ushakov April 20 2013 07: 15
    +5
    Eliminated, then eliminated. Positive fact. Let's see how they will fight ...
    1. Al_miller
      Al_miller April 20 2013 07: 26
      +3
      Who are we going to fight with? Look, it’s certainly good, but to unleash a war for this ... no-eee! Peace to the world!
      1. vadson
        vadson April 20 2013 08: 21
        +8
        Quote: Al_Miller
        Who are we going to fight with? Look, it’s certainly good, but to unleash a war for this ... no-eee! Peace to the world!

        Duc gum will help Mujahideen deliver. as much as 8 tons
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 20 2013 17: 52
        +1
        And they will ask us whether to untie or not to untie? what
        If there are two hundred and two combat-ready shock "dryers", then they may ask for permission. Or, in general, they will keep quiet quietly.
    2. servant
      servant April 20 2013 07: 31
      +4
      Quote: V. Ushakov
      Let's see how they will fight ...

      God forbid that they never fought ... And the more such beauties the less the desire of hot heads to fight ....
    3. Botanologist
      Botanologist April 20 2013 10: 38
      -3
      If they talk about the sighting system (there really were problems), and they were eliminated, then we get a very decent car that can work not only on the ground, but also on the air.
      It turns out a better analogue of F - 15. If I am mistaken - I hope vaf will come and categorically correct me drinks .
      1. Nevsky
        Nevsky April 20 2013 12: 01
        +1
        If I am mistaken, I hope VAF will come and categorically correct me


        Something he has not been seen for a long time crying
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 20 2013 15: 28
          +3
          Quote: Nevsky
          Something he has not been seen for a long time

          Probably with a soldering iron in hand eliminates the flaws ...
          recourse
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 21 2013 13: 25
            +3
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Probably with a soldering iron in hand eliminates the flaws ...

            Yeah ...
            A sense of humor is an indicator of intelligence.
            It's even a shame for such "minus" ...
            lol
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus April 20 2013 22: 10
        0
        Quote: Botanologist
        It turns out a better analogue of F - 15

        Let's say it is a very optimistic point of view smile
        But the fact that the disadvantages of PNA correct it, of course, is very good.
        1. PLO
          PLO April 20 2013 23: 16
          +1
          Let's say it is a very optimistic point of view

          for f-15e undoubtedly
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus April 21 2013 00: 51
            0
            Quote: olp
            for f-15e undoubtedly

            AN / APG-82, LANTIRN
            1. PLO
              PLO April 21 2013 01: 07
              0
              uh ... Sh141, Plane tree?
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus April 21 2013 02: 01
                0
                Quote: olp
                uh ... Sh141, Plane tree?

                More precisely, B004. Unfortunately, the possibilities are slightly different. But we hope that this will be fixed during modernization.
                And the class of aircraft is also different. The F-15E is a multi-role fighter, although it specializes in attack missions. The Su-34 is the last front-line bomber.
                1. PLO
                  PLO April 21 2013 02: 10
                  +1
                  More precisely B004

                  not the essence, V004 directly PFAR, and Sh141 the whole complex

                  Unfortunately, the possibilities are slightly different.

                  Well, so I say: unfortunately for the F-15E

                  And the class of aircraft is also different. The F-15E is a multi-role fighter, although it specializes in attack missions. The Su-34 is the last front-line bomber.

                  true classes are different,
                  how the Su-34 bomber is completely surpassed by the Needle, how the fighter is inferior, but one cannot say that it is defenseless
                  and the direct analogue of F-15E is Su-30MKI / SM
                  1. Odysseus
                    Odysseus April 21 2013 22: 30
                    0
                    Quote: olp
                    how the Su-34 bomber is superior to the Needle,

                    Look at the bottom of Nayhas's comment. He is a "bad man, radish" exaggerates a little, but there is some harsh life truth in his words.
                    PS Thank you, the video is great.
                    1. PLO
                      PLO April 21 2013 22: 55
                      +1
                      Look at the bottom of Nayhas's comment. He is a "bad man, radish" exaggerates a little, but there is some harsh life truth in his words.

                      with this comrade we recently had an interesting discussion just about comparing the Su-34 and F-15E and some other topics
                      So he sincerely claimed that the Su-34 had problems with detecting air targets, because him radar small(C) request
                      and his other comments showed that his level of competence in engineering (at least in aviation) leaves much to be desired

                      and why did you suddenly believe that the words that he quoted (Izvestia source by the way ..) and added an unsubstantiated abusive gag are true?

                      but there is a share of the harsh truth of life in his words

                      probably there .. but he does not know about her
                      1. Odysseus
                        Odysseus April 22 2013 00: 14
                        0
                        Quote: olp
                        and why did you suddenly believe that the words he quoted

                        I do not believe anything))
                        It’s just that in this particular message it’s true that Platan is a little outdated. But the radar is just in order, I don’t know what he didn’t like. Although the AFAR AN / APG-82 is probably better. But they’re just going to put it on. AFAR integration is well known troublesome business ... The amount of high-precision weapons for the Su-34 is also a little taut, but this is not an airplane problem. But what’s good is the electronic warfare systems. Especially when they finish the Tarantula.
                        But it would be even cooler to make in addition to the main Su-34 a plane such as Growler.
                      2. PLO
                        PLO April 22 2013 00: 42
                        0
                        It's just that in this particular message of his, it’s true that Platan is somewhat outdated

                        this is the problem. the devil is always in the details.
                        so how do you know this and what is this obsolescence?
                        any adequate answers are accepted)


                        With the amount of precision weapons for the Su-34 is also a little taut, but this is not an airplane problem.

                        disagree
                        the biggest and most significant minus is the lack of high-precision planning bombs as a class.
                        in all other types of high-precision weapons, the Su-34 is inferior to nothing, and in some types it surpasses utterly

                        But what’s good is EW systems. Especially when they finish the Tarantula.
                        But it would be even cooler to make in addition to the main Su-34 a plane such as Growler.

                        I don’t know, I don’t understand what will be the difference between such an aircraft and the Su-34 with Tarantula and Owl)
                        the container system in this case is much more universal
                      3. Odysseus
                        Odysseus April 22 2013 02: 57
                        0
                        Quote: olp
                        and what is this obsolescence?

                        Strange question. That's it.
                        Viewing angle. Optics, accuracy, element base, reliability, etc.
                        What can I say if there wasn’t even a night channel? (though they say finished, I don’t know for sure)
                        Quote: olp
                        in all other types of high-precision weapons, the Su-34 is inferior to nothing, and in some types it surpasses utterly

                        Not in quality, but in quantity. Most types of weapons are developed or exist in experimental specimens.
                        So far, the Su-34 in arms is not an analogue of the F-15E, but the Su-24. Moreover, the analogue is deteriorated. The Su-24 was also the carrier of nuclear weapons.
                      4. PLO
                        PLO April 22 2013 03: 33
                        0
                        Viewing angle.

                        do not distort
                        this is a design flaw, not a technological one, how critical is it is another difficult question

                        Optics, accuracy, elemental base, reliability, etc.

                        can you confirm your words with something? or have you come up with?

                        What can I say if there wasn’t even a night channel?

                        did not have? in which bearded year?

                        strange to you, do uomz make goesy and ols with a modern element base, thermal imaging channels, etc., and especially for the su-34 plane-board in the old fashioned way with a file?
                      5. Odysseus
                        Odysseus April 22 2013 10: 28
                        0
                        Quote: olp
                        this is a design flaw, not a technological one, how critical is it is another difficult question

                        When the Su-27IB (Su-34) was designed, they couldn’t push LTPS into the container. We still haven’t really much with containers. But the built-in Plane is also somehow not very located.
                        Quote: olp
                        or have you come up with?

                        The pilots who operated the Lightings and the people from NAPO also came up with it. Moreover, the Lightning is a bit worse than the Sniper, which is now on the F-15. special love for the Su-15. It seems that you were proving to me that it has a radar in the tail?
                        Quote: olp
                        did not have? in which bearded year?

                        Long time. I repent I do not know what Platan now has at night and in SMU. I hope all is well.
                        Quote: olp
                        But specifically for the su-34 plane-tree in the old fashioned file?

                        Why a file? Plane tree normal LPTS. There weren’t any particular complaints, just not the best in the world.
                        But we must somehow fall behind smile
                        They will make a normal container, put it.
                      6. PLO
                        PLO April 22 2013 13: 22
                        +1
                        When the Su-27IB (Su-34) was designed, they couldn’t push LTPS into the container. We still haven’t really much with containers. But the built-in Plane is also somehow not very located.

                        do not confuse SU-27IB and Su-34 for a long time already two completely different aircraft

                        I fully admit that when the Su-27IB was designed, and judging by the first flight on April 13, 1990, it was about the mid-80s they could not do this, but 23 years have passed since then

                        .It seems like you were proving to me that he has a radar in the tail?

                        it should be standing, at one time Sergey (vaf) even said what it was, though after our conversation he answered negatively to this direct question, so xs she is standing there or should only be standing

                        By the way, the first one who said that the capabilities of the sighting system of the F-15E and Su-34 are equal.

                        Well, if I am the first of those whose words you quoted me as an example above (Nayhas) then this is not surprising
                        I trust specialists more, vaf claimed that a plane tree with svp-24 is no worse than a lantir

                        Why a file? Plane tree normal LPTS. There weren’t any particular complaints, just not the best in the world.

                        not the best in the world and junk these are completely different things
                        so far all that you said earlier came down to the fact that Platan does not work and is out of date (i.e. does not perform its tasks)

                        They will make a normal container, put it.

                        I doubt very much, otherwise why do I need a built-in plane tree
                        and about containers do not hesitate to do if they want, Sapsan and I-251 Mercury are examples of this
                      7. Odysseus
                        Odysseus April 23 2013 08: 03
                        0
                        Quote: olp
                        I trust specialists more, vaf claimed that a plane tree with svp-24 is no worse than a lantir

                        Specifically, the picture is worse, you need to adjust often, at night and in smu worse, well, viewing angles.
                        Quote: olp
                        so far all that you said earlier came down to the fact that Platan does not work and is out of date (i.e. does not perform its tasks)

                        Where did I say that? I said that in the context of comparing with the device that Platan has less capabilities and it is a little outdated, but I hope it will be fixed, and not that it does not work.
                        But the military and industrialists generally argue differently. But Sniper did not fall from the sky. There were TK, based on the needs of the military and the real capabilities of the industry, there were tests. The military had no complaints.
                        Quote: olp
                        and about containers do not hesitate to do if they want, Sapsan and I-251 Mercury are examples of this

                        That's nice. Only with Sapsan the example is not very ... But I will do it no doubt.
    4. PLO
      PLO April 21 2013 03: 57
      +2
      here by the way a brand new video of the Su-34
      look strictly at 1080p)

  • NIK 163
    NIK 163 April 20 2013 08: 19
    0
    A new plane just went into the army. Amers still have their F-22 crap, they’re afraid to even fight on it, they haven’t applied a single conflict. And the fact that the industry is immediately taken to troubleshoot is good, the main thing is that there shouldn’t be any on subsequent machines .And in general, the Su-34 is good, I spent all my childhood at the airport, I remember how the father of the Su-24 took into service at that time he was handsome.
  • Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 20 2013 08: 23
    +1
    Can the state really not allocate money to increase production? And they would release more steel and more jobs. Then it would be enough for the sale and left for ourselves.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup April 20 2013 10: 12
      -6
      Yes, even extra money is not necessary. Just abandon unnecessary projects such as new heavy mine ICBMs. But the car is excellent, there are no more vehicles of this type capable of delivering 8 tons of democracy per 4000 km with high accuracy, in my opinion.
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 April 20 2013 12: 55
        +1
        Guaranteed to destroy Washington, too, with tactical bombers, in case of what?
        1. Nitup
          Nitup April 21 2013 01: 53
          0
          Listen, dear minusers, I'm not saying that we need to abandon all ICBMs. The task of strategic nuclear forces is the guaranteed deterrence of the enemy. That is, we must have such systems that, in response, are guaranteed to destroy any aggressor. And the survivability of heavy ICBMs, because these are mine systems, is low. So, their appointment is not a retaliatory, but the first blow. Is it not more reasonable, instead of wasting time, effort and money to create useless systems, to direct efforts towards the purchase of PGRK and their modernization?
          1. DMB87
            DMB87 April 21 2013 11: 23
            +2
            Consultant to the Commander of the Strategic Missile Forces of Russia, Colonel General Viktor Yesin:

            “If the US undertakes to ramp up its global missile defense, we can’t do without a heavy liquid missile,” he said, commenting on a statement by the director general of Roscommesh Corporation Arthur Usenkov that Russia has been working on creating a heavy ICBM throughout the year. The fact is, Yesin said that for a reliable missile defense breakthrough, the missile must have, in addition to other necessary performance characteristics, a sufficiently large payload, including not only powerful warheads, but also heavy false targets. Meanwhile, the new Russian monolithic solid-propellant Topol-M missiles have a payload of only 1,2 tons, and the Yars ICBMs with multiple warheads have 1,4 tons. But the heavy liquid ICBM Voevoda, standing for many years on combat duty in the Strategic Missile Forces, has a payload of 8,8 tons. At least the new heavy rocket, which is actually being carried out in Russia, should have at least the weight to be launched into space, General Esin explained.

            He added that the heavy rocket, in addition to its other advantages, also has such an important characteristic for a breakthrough missile defense as “specific thrust impulse”. “On 1 kg of fuel, the specific thrust (the time it takes to set the required speed depends on it) of heavy liquid ICBMs is significantly higher than that of solid-fuel missiles with the same dimensions,” the expert said, noting that not only Russia, but also China has missiles of this type. Liquid ballistic missiles, but not of the intercontinental class, he added, are also available in India, Pakistan, Iran and North Korea.

            “The US does not have liquid heavy missiles with RGMs, therefore, at the negotiations on strategic offensive arms they always raised the question of their elimination in the USSR, and then in Russia,” Yesin recalled.

            He emphasized that the survivability of heavy silo-based ICBMs is ensured by "their high combat readiness: missiles are capable of launching tens of seconds after receiving a launch command." “These ICBMs are designed to be used in a reciprocal counter-nuclear missile strike, so talking about their small, 5 – 7% survivability in a retaliatory strike is simply incorrect,” the expert noted. “Thus, in the ground group of the strategic nuclear forces of Russia there should be both mobile launchers of solid fuel missiles and stationary launchers of heavy liquid rockets. Only such a combination will provide Russia with guaranteed nuclear deterrence, ”General Yesin is convinced.

            The expert clarified that, according to his data, “expert designing of a new heavy liquid ICBM is currently underway in Russia, which should replace Voevoda.” “A task was given to develop technical proposals; several organizations and design bureaus are conducting this work. After the completion of the technical project, its analysis will be made and at the end of this - the beginning of next year, a military and political decision will be made whether to make a rocket or not. If a heavy missile enters the state armament program before the 2020 of the year, then it will definitely be created during this period, if it doesn’t hit, then it won’t be, ”Yesin said.

            http://vz.ru/news/2010/12/21/456538.html
            1. Nitup
              Nitup April 21 2013 13: 54
              0
              I must upset you, but I decided to limit myself to the outline design of a heavy liquid ICBM. And this is right, because Yars and Bulava missiles, starting at a much higher speed and with warheads maneuvering in hypersound, will provide a breakthrough of any prospectively possible missile defense system much better than missiles made using technologies of the last century.
      2. patsantre
        patsantre April 20 2013 13: 28
        0
        Quote: Nitup
        But the car is excellent, there are no more vehicles of this type capable of delivering 8 tons of democracy per 4000 km with high accuracy, in my opinion.


        In fact, 4000 km is a ferry range without weapons. If you load it to the fullest, that is, by 8 tons, more than 2000 will not fly. This is what Waf said (for those who like to minify everything where there is no word "hurray")
  • SEM
    SEM April 20 2013 08: 33
    +3
    If deficiencies are identified, then the work is being done correctly, but if they hadn’t been there then suspicions would have arisen. SU-34 new equipment and its improvements are normal practice and in other products they are being finalized due to identified deficiencies as a result of the start of operation.
    1. patsantre
      patsantre April 20 2013 13: 29
      -2
      In general, if we talk about the novelty, the plane appeared 20 years ago ...
      1. vadson
        vadson April 20 2013 15: 15
        0
        Quote: patsantre
        In general, if we talk about the novelty, the plane appeared 20 years ago ...

        oh well, remember when projects 22 and 35 began to be developed by amers, this is also the beginning of the eighties. there are more of them, but they still can’t fly normally
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm April 20 2013 09: 37
    +3
    legatus_minor
    2012-08-20 01: 51 pm (UTC)
    Only not 92, but 124 :-) 32 on the first contract, which closes next year, and 92 on the new

    Quote: SEM
    If deficiencies are identified, then the work is being done correctly,

    I agree.
    -Only the walker will overcome the road.
    Somewhere slipped a photo of the work of the Su-34 in the Caucasus on terrorists, sorry I can not remember where, a terrible sight. Well that the conveyor would not stop drinks .
    PS Special thanks to the author for the photo at the end of the article.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 20 2013 20: 05
      +1
      Without a VAF, there’s nothing about the article, faithful people talk, they’ll arrive in about 2 weeks. My favorite photo.
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city April 20 2013 10: 17
    +8
    I live in Lipetsk. Flyers complained about the first cars.
    1.Some blocks on different machines in different places (I think the plant continued to search for the optimal layout)
    2. Low reliability of the electronics and slow supply of spare units (2 sides got into a joke, I don’t know, maybe they’ve already repaired but stood for a long time)
    3. Big tremor on the steering wheel (maybe the car seemed unaccustomed because it was not mastered)
    If the industrialists have eliminated it all ++++
  • Boa kaa
    Boa kaa April 20 2013 10: 59
    +4
    Not a pilot, but all my life I love aviation, so I'm interested. I used the sources, I read: the element base for the electronic equipment of foreign production. Well, if from China, then the problems are clear. Where our "Elbrus" or "captar" gobbled up? Second. SU-34 is replacing the 24th, which means that our 4th Guards OMSHAP (Chernyakhovsk) will receive these machines. It will be a blow to me ... m amateurs to train in the amphibious assault on the BALTOPS.
    1000km combat radius, 8 tons of bomb load! If the Chernyakhovtsi get SU-34, I think NATO will be sad, the help to the Baltic states will not come soon.
    1. washi
      washi April 20 2013 17: 19
      0
      I’m sorry, but in the beginning it is necessary to protect Rublevka. And in Chernekhovsk the cognac is also foreign in the factory. Wait and hope. There is still not far from Koenig there is GDP owned by Yermolnik and Yakubovich. Maybe they won’t reach their lane, they will sit on yours.
  • asbaev
    asbaev April 20 2013 11: 43
    0
    A beautiful photo of a flying airplane, you feel the power.
  • Zubr
    Zubr April 20 2013 11: 56
    +1
    So, interestingly, in the anti-ship version it can carry three P-800 missiles. From a tactical point of view of its application, two such handsome men and an aircraft carrier will be launched to the bottom.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 April 20 2013 12: 56
      0
      Do not reach and missiles need nuclear.
    2. patsantre
      patsantre April 20 2013 13: 31
      -2
      Well, what a nonsense fool
  • camcos
    camcos April 20 2013 13: 30
    +1
    I think the problems with the components are true and the soldering in the blocks, including, I personally see similar on other types. The frames at some plants are very weak as well as control.
  • Vtel
    Vtel April 20 2013 13: 59
    +1
    Yes, it’s high time to raise Microelectronic to the desired level, otherwise we are assembling cases for computers. It's time to shake the Chubzaits and Vekselobergs - do not fail to fail to their West and do not prevent us from building Russia. And the SU-34 is handsome, like a duckling - like a good one!
    1. vadson
      vadson April 20 2013 15: 18
      0
      I recalled the tale of the ugly duckling, and the finale.
  • shinobi
    shinobi April 20 2013 14: 05
    0
    Normally, the device went. Now, it will be sick with children's operational diseases and finally there will be candy.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 20 2013 15: 33
      +3
      Quote: shinobi
      Now the child will be ill with operational diseases and finally will be sweetie.

      That's for sure.
      Common for leading vehicles in a series of vehicles (ships, tanks, etc.)
      Remember how, in fairly prosperous years, was introduced into the composition of the Tu-22.
  • Know-nothing
    Know-nothing April 20 2013 17: 22
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    Su-34 was first used in combat conditions, when last year it made several sorties against alleged locations of militants in Dagestan and Ingushetia

    It turns out that it was not used in Georgia?
  • washi
    washi April 20 2013 17: 24
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    . In Soviet times, it was planned instead of the Tu-22. Euro Bomber. Maybe the characteristics are underestimated specially?
  • Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping April 20 2013 19: 20
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    And what is a "7-thousandth base", who else can tell me as not knowledgeable ??
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas April 20 2013 20: 55
    +2
    "Among the main problems of the aircraft were problems with the radar and sighting and navigation system." - a bad radar and a frankly bad sighting system cannot be the fault of which the manufacturer is to blame. This is the fault of the developer, the manufacturer can "screw up" during assembly, on the same soldering, riveting, etc. Those. by increasing control at the production stages, it is possible to ensure that everything is assembled, riveted and soldered as expected, but if, for example, the Platan LTPS was initially woof ... bad, corresponding to the level of the 80s, then no high-quality assembly will make it a Sniper XR ...
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus April 20 2013 22: 11
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      "Among the main problems of the aircraft were problems with the radar and sighting and navigation system." - bad radar and frankly bad sighting system

      Well, Nayhas came and brought down all the romance .... smile