Dragunov rifle did not survive the special operation

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Dragunov rifle did not survive the special operation
7,62 mm sniper rifle SVDS (6V3); 7,62 mm sniper rifle SVD (6V1); 7,62 mm sniper rifle SVDM (6V11)


Ranged combat is a priority


There are currently two ways to analyze the state of affairs on the fronts of a special operation. The first is to be directly on the line of combat contact. In this case, the efficiency, reliability and density of information will be the best. But it will only concern the section of the front where the reporter/journalist/researcher is located.



The second way is careful monitoring of specialized resources on the topic of the SVO. Starting from patriotic Telegram channels and ending with serious analytical firms, for example, the Center for Analysis and Strategies of Ruslan Pukhov. Of great importance are also the memories of front-line soldiers, which have increasingly begun to be collected in separate publications. In the West, such work is called OSINT intelligence, that is, collecting information from open sources. It can be called differently, but the result is the same - such analysis shows the most realistic picture of front-line life without direct participation. All other reports, analytics and summaries through military department channels will be inaccessible to a wide range of readers for a very long time. Therefore, we will be content with what we have.


One of the rare photos of the SVD during a special operation. The initial period of military operations

The special operation has already rewritten more than one charter. Not only the Russian one, but also the Ukrainian one, and, especially, the NATO one. New realities of combat have emerged at all levels. At the tactical level, a significant transformation of sniper work is observed. In a number of cases, snipers are successfully replaced by ATGM crews. Anti-tank gunners in the special operation have practically no work left for their intended purpose – Tanks gradually moved out of the line of sight.

It takes a long time and a lot of money to train a sniper pair capable of destroying targets at a distance of 1000 meters. Why risk "surgeons" on the battlefield if you can hit an enemy bunker with a thermobaric rocket? And from a much greater distance, excluding the possibility of being hit by return fire. As a result, in a number of cases, long-range truckers with ATGMs were engaged in direct fire support of the assault units. A whole tactic of using missiles was developed, including the use of three types of ATGMs - "Kornet" at long distances, "Konkurs" at medium distances, and in conditionally close combat, "Fagots" are used. Anti-tank missiles in the SVO are an extensive story, which requires separate consideration.

But let's get back to the sniper arms, or rather, to the main subject of the conversation - the SVD or infantry sniper rifle. This material substantiates the idea of ​​​​gradually abandoning the semi-automatic close-combat rifle. There are several reasons at once. The first is that aerial reconnaissance has significantly expanded the "gray zone" where it is simply impossible to equip a position for snipers at a distance of 1000 meters. Therefore, all high-precision small arms now work at distances of one kilometer. And here the SVD simply has nothing to do - its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters. Separately, it is worth noting that even the work of long-range rifles has to be masked by machine gun fire, otherwise the enemy will unmistakably determine the location of a sniper pair. More precisely, not a pair, but a trio and even a five.

For a sniper to work effectively, he now requires not only an observer, but also a machine gunner, a reconnaissance operator drone and even an evacuation group. Snipers on special operations are forced to work most of the time at night. According to surveys of front-line soldiers, up to 80 percent of combat work occurs at night. Through thermal imaging devices, targets look much more contrasting, and the probability of being detected is much lower. Night conditions reduce the effective firing range (even with a high-quality thermal imager), which also does not play in favor of the Marksman SVD.

The second reason for the reduction in the number of SVDs at the front was the transformation of the tactical units of the Russian Army. Previously, the smallest attack unit was a squad, now - pairs and threes of assault aircraft. In a motorized rifle squad, there was a regular position of an infantry sniper with an SVD, who not only supported his unit with high-precision fire, but also went on the offensive himself. Now, no one in their right mind would go on an assault with an SVD. The main purpose of snipers in modern combat is to cut off approaching enemy reserves and destroy machine gun positions, ATGM crews and automatic grenade launchers.

Narrow range weapons


An indirect confirmation of the above can be considered the almost complete absence of the SVD in photo and video chronicles from the Russian and Ukrainian sides. If in the first year the rifle still flickered, then later heavy anti-material units and long-range "bolts" came to the fore. The natural increase in the combat distance in the conditions of a frozen front brought to the fore more accurate weapons with a greater effective range. It is no coincidence that the SVD substitute - the Chukavin sniper rifle with a passport range of 1200 meters (similar to the Dragunov rifle) allows you to work at 500-700 meters, which is more than the Dragunov product. Due to the higher accuracy of fire, first of all. But even the SVCh is very conditionally suitable for the conditions of the SVO. It is in this conventionality that there remains hope for the use of semi-automatic rifles for their intended purpose. Niches for them still remain.

Urban battles in Ukraine have given way to trench warfare, but there is still a lot of residential development ahead, including multi-story buildings. The combat contact distances in such conditions are inevitably reduced, which means that dense sniper fire at 200-300 meters will be in demand. Only the SVD and Chukavin rifle can provide it. But will there be worthy targets for these weapons if the Ukrainian Armed Forces are hit with heavy ammunition? The question is rhetorical, but this is how the Russian Army is currently conducting an offensive - everything that can pose a threat is demolished with bombs, missiles and thermobaric ammunition. And then come the attack aircraft.

Another specific niche for using the Marksman rifle can be considered the fight against heavy drones. For example, with heavy agricultural UAVs converted to drop mines. "Baba Yaga" usually comes at night, and machine guns with thermal sights are used to defeat her. Not only machine gunners, but also snipers work very effectively against the slow-moving ash-heap. The self-loading SVD allows you to hit "Baba Yaga" at distant borders with the third or fourth shot. This function cannot be neglected, although it is very specific.


The ideological successor of the SVD - Chukavin's sniper rifle in a special operation

Some observers consider the experience of the special operation to be situational. They say that it cannot be extrapolated to all other theaters of military operations. Real and hypothetical. But there is one factor that has turned the picture of the battle upside down – the mass use of drones. That is why the contact line has become deserted, that is why the “gray zone” uncontrolled by either side has become so extended. In this picture, the place of close-combat sniper rifles has seriously narrowed. And so far there are no prerequisites that drones will give up their conquered place to someone else. On the contrary, there are all signs of expansion – in Latin America, an FPV drone recently shot down a police helicopter.

However, no one forbade forecasting and fantasizing. In the future, the SVD renaissance (if one can put it that way) is possible with the development of the current tactics of the Russian infantry. We are talking about the infiltration of small groups into the near rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces through rare defense nodes. Under cover of fog at night, fighters make their way in pairs to a depth of 2-3 kilometers, where they gradually group into strike units. And here the marksman will be very useful - contact battles promise distances of a couple of hundred meters and even closer. And this is precisely the fiefdom of the SVD and SVCh.
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  1. + 46
    5 September 2025 04: 56
    It's strange, I read a number of articles on the Internet that are directly opposite to the author's assessment of the SVD. It is clear that long-range rifles are needed, and that shooters need to be trained (preferably from childhood, and preferably not from the offspring of "valuable specialists"). But the role of the SVD, I think, has increased. In some places in the article, the author contradicts himself, describing battles in dense urban areas. I think the author's conclusions about the role of the SVD are incorrect.
    1. + 31
      5 September 2025 05: 34
      And this is precisely the domain of SVD and SVCh.
      It's too early to write off the SVD to the reserve!
      1. + 17
        5 September 2025 09: 17
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        It's too early to write off the SVD

        So we are not talking about writing it off, but about the fact that in modern conditions the niche for a short-range rifle has narrowed. That it is more difficult to train a good sniper than a drone operator, and it is easier and more effective to work on the same targets with a drone.

        That in urban conditions it is easier to destroy enemy shelters with FABs, ODABs and other long-range safe methods than to knock out individual targets with rifle fire, to which the enemy will respond.

        I think that the conclusions are generally correct. The only thing is, IMHO, that ATGM operators will disappear much faster than snipers of different types, since the ATGM is very much inferior to a comparable drone in terms of price. And, conversely, a drone is incomparably more convenient to use. sad
        1. +8
          5 September 2025 15: 34
          Let me disagree with you, the ATGM missile is not jammed, the REB is not triangulated by frequencies, and it makes less noise during flight
          1. -2
            5 September 2025 15: 40
            Quote: tarakan
            ATGM missile is not jammed REB is not triangulated by frequencies, and there is no noise

            Our ATGM missiles are primarily guided by laser, which is detected and suppressed in various ways. Here it is symmetrical.

            A drone on fiber optics is not jammed and is not targeted at all. As for noise, a rocket produces more (after all, the engine, although small, is a jet), but this factor is not critical, IMHO. request
            1. +9
              5 September 2025 15: 42
              The beam receiver is located in the tail section of the rocket, and on bassoons it is generally via wires.
              1. +1
                5 September 2025 15: 48
                Quote: tarakan
                The beam receiver is located in the tail section of the rocket.

                The beam doesn’t just hit the receiver, so systems like Shtora work quite effectively.

                And wired ATGMs have a low range and make the operator extremely vulnerable. sad
            2. +4
              6 September 2025 09: 49
              Quote: Netl
              Our ATGM missiles are primarily guided by laser, which is detected and suppressed in various ways. Here it is symmetrical.


              You need to aim the laser beam above the target, and at the target itself - at the last moment, timing (flight speed, range - known). The enemy in this case will not have time to react, even if it is AI.
              1. +2
                8 September 2025 14: 23
                Quote: Illanatol
                aim the laser beam above the target

                It is possible to do this, but it requires a higher level of operator qualification and there is a higher risk of error.

                FPV drones have a maneuver with similar results. If there is a high risk of losing the control signal near the target, the operator sets the drone to the desired course in advance and it, flying in a straight line without control, hits the target. For a not very maneuverable and fairly large target, this is a very effective method. (optical fiber has no such problems at all)

                But the drone operator has the advantage that it is much more difficult for the enemy to calculate his position. And the survivability of ATGM operators in a similar situation is lower. sad
                1. 0
                  9 September 2025 06: 54
                  Fiber-based PPVs also have limitations in their use - a certain control style to avoid damaging the fiber. For example, how do you imagine flying over a fire (a strip of fire)?
                  1. +4
                    9 September 2025 09: 10
                    Quote: alextrace
                    Fiber-based PPVs also have limitations in their use.

                    Of course they do. There is no such thing as an absolute weapon. The question is effectiveness.

                    It turns out that drones are more convenient, have far fewer restrictions, and are also much cheaper. request
        2. +3
          6 September 2025 09: 15
          The problem is that there aren't enough FABs for everyone. And ATGMs too. And in such conditions, both PKM and SVD would be very useful.
        3. +3
          6 September 2025 13: 50
          The ATGM has a speed and a minimal flight time compared to a drone. Rather, the drone will become more advanced and will move the ATGM to the forefront, and the ATGM will mutate into a mini cruise missile for over-the-horizon firing at 10-20-30 km, increasing in size and weight of the warhead
        4. +3
          6 September 2025 15: 15
          Drone prices will rise. ATGM operators are the future drone operators.
        5. 0
          7 September 2025 01: 51
          The only thing is, IMHO, that PRURists will disappear much faster than snipers of different types,

          Yes. For now, the calculation will be given a task, like knocking down doors with Fagot...
        6. +1
          7 September 2025 21: 37
          The only thing is, IMHO, that ATGM operators will disappear much faster than snipers of different types, since the ATGM is very much inferior to a comparable drone in terms of price.
          I completely agree with you. But what's stopping us from making ATGMs cheaper? The same drones were not mass-produced yet, they were quite expensive toys. As soon as they were simplified, brought to mind and the cost of development and implementation of production was spread over huge print runs, they became much cheaper and more accessible.

          the drone is incomparably more convenient to use
          It is cheaper, lighter, sometimes more accurate, does not give away the position when launched (no flash) and some can return to the base. Only in bad weather you can not always see it.
          1. +2
            8 September 2025 09: 25
            Quote from barbos
            what's stopping us from making ATGMs cheaper

            There is a fundamental reason that nothing can be done about.
            A rocket engine is much more expensive than an electric motor. sad
            1. 0
              14 September 2025 20: 59
              Neither high-precision casting, nor additive technologies, nor electrochemical alloys, nor accessible CAD systems with advanced modeling, nor expert systems for assisting in development based on AI - none of this will help?
              As if the electric motor was invented in the eighties of the century before last and for a long time was not widely used, since the main preference was given to steam traction. It can be said that it received mass distribution in industry after WWII, when they began to abandon steam traction and massively switch to electric traction.
              I can roughly imagine the difference and lag in efficiency of a jet engine compared to a cannon (how many centuries did it take to perfect cannons?), only for this efficiency the cannon pays with greater mass. At the moment, in terms of mass gain, the jet engine has no competitors.
      2. 0
        5 September 2025 10: 04
        I agree, it is early, but the scope of its application has sharply decreased. From a mass infantry weapon it has become an occasional special means. However, after achieving peace, perhaps the need for such a rifle will sharply increase again.
      3. +1
        5 September 2025 23: 39
        Haven't learned how to use it yet. Very useful during an assault.
    2. + 40
      5 September 2025 06: 29
      That's true! The conclusions, yes, some of the statements are false.
      SVD range 300 - 400 m?
      This is for those who don't know how to shoot. Or at the enemy's head, but not at the waist or full-length figure.
      SVD is a sniper rifle for the motorized rifle squad, but not for special forces.
      It is used in combat to repel attacks, assaults, hitting important small-sized targets: commanders, fire crews, etc.
      And fire from it is effective at 700 - 800 m, and for a good shooter up to 1000. Of course, not at a tin can.
      There is no need to compare this weapon with special purpose special forces ammo-caliber rifles.
      Everything for its own purposes.
      1. +3
        5 September 2025 07: 33
        SVD is a sniper rifle for the motorized rifle squad, but not for special forces.

        that's right, Tikka was bought from us
      2. KCA
        +8
        5 September 2025 07: 48
        A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training
        1. + 15
          5 September 2025 09: 51
          Full-length target at a distance of 400m

          A short burst at 300 m is included in the initial exercise for machine gunners (with open sights, lying down with support).
          1. Aag
            -4
            5 September 2025 19: 40
            Where? When? Watch "Nstavlenie..."
            I shot from an SVD with an open sight, with optics (you still have to catch the target in the eyepiece / 300 m) /. I understand - sometimes even at 900 m they hit the Mishka in the forehead (it doesn't always help...). hi
            1. +2
              5 September 2025 20: 07
              Where? When?

              I don’t know what’s in the Manual, but I remember shooting from the 74th at school: lying down with 3 single shots at the chest for 100 m and 6 short shots at the full height for 300 m.
              1. Aag
                0
                5 September 2025 22: 53
                I don't argue. Likewise...
                But when I saw a 4-meter-long scope in a 300x scope, I was surprised myself - how had I met all the standards (with the AKM) before?
                And I had to serve with AKS-74-U mainly. And the standards are the same... I shot normally since kindergarten... But here, - problems arose))). No, - I met the standards... But self-esteem, faith in weapons...(((
        2. +6
          5 September 2025 15: 31
          Quote: KCA
          A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training

          I don't know if this is true, but when I served in the army, a long-range full-length target was located at 300-350m. And the target was a machine gun crew at 200-250m (depending on the target situation). And this is for the AKM!!! A distance of 400m for a full-length target is too small in my opinion.
          1. KCA
            +2
            5 September 2025 15: 37
            For a machine gun or a submachine gun, shooting in short bursts, SVD single bursts, then for automatics, the target principle? Overturning? For SVD, after all, the targets were with accuracy circles
            1. +4
              5 September 2025 15: 40
              Quote: KCA
              For a machine gun or a submachine gun, shooting in short bursts, SVD single bursts, then for automatics, the target principle? Overturning? For SVD, after all, the targets were with accuracy circles

              Yes, that's true. They shot at falling targets and hit even at 350. True, it was impossible to find out where exactly - in the center or in the periphery. But if for the SVD at 400m you had to hit perfectly in a circle with a diameter of 10 cm, that's a different matter. hi
              1. KCA
                0
                5 September 2025 15: 44
                I don’t know how the points were awarded, I’m not a sniper, the target on the conventional body is normal, and on the conventional head there are arcs and only 1 or 2, I don’t remember, full circles
          2. Aag
            +1
            5 September 2025 21: 24
            Quote: nedgen
            Quote: KCA
            A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training

            I don't know if this is true, but when I served in the army, a long-range full-length target was located at 300-350m. And the target was a machine gun crew at 200-250m (depending on the target situation). And this is for the AKM!!! A distance of 400m for a full-length target is too small in my opinion.

            It looks like you got the wrong addressee. (The message came to me, and you, it looks like, replied "KSA"...
            On topic: try to scare someone from three hundred meters with an AKS-74U (I'm exaggerating)...
            By the way, I've never fired a shot from an AKM worse than "Good" in 22 years of service...
            1. +2
              5 September 2025 22: 18
              Quote: AAG
              Quote: nedgen
              Quote: KCA
              A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training

              I don't know if this is true, but when I served in the army, a long-range full-length target was located at 300-350m. And the target was a machine gun crew at 200-250m (depending on the target situation). And this is for the AKM!!! A distance of 400m for a full-length target is too small in my opinion.

              It looks like you got the wrong addressee. (The message came to me, and you, it looks like, replied "KSA"...
              On topic: try to scare someone from three hundred meters with an AKS-74U (I'm exaggerating)...
              By the way, I've never fired a shot from an AKM worse than "Good" in 22 years of service...

              Sorry, Alexander. By the way, unfortunately, I never shot an AKM in the army. In my division, everyone only had AKS-47s. And still, almost everyone shot down full-length targets at 350m. And how the infantry shot... I just couldn't believe my eyes. They shot everything, even on the move.
              1. Aag
                0
                5 September 2025 23: 01
                Quote: nedgen
                Quote: AAG
                Quote: nedgen
                Quote: KCA
                A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training

                I don't know if this is true, but when I served in the army, a long-range full-length target was located at 300-350m. And the target was a machine gun crew at 200-250m (depending on the target situation). And this is for the AKM!!! A distance of 400m for a full-length target is too small in my opinion.

                It looks like you got the wrong addressee. (The message came to me, and you, it looks like, replied "KSA"...
                On topic: try to scare someone from three hundred meters with an AKS-74U (I'm exaggerating)...
                By the way, I've never fired a shot from an AKM worse than "Good" in 22 years of service...

                Sorry, Alexander. By the way, unfortunately, I never shot an AKM in the army. In my division, everyone only had AKS-47s. And still, almost everyone shot down full-length targets at 350m. And how the infantry shot... I just couldn't believe my eyes. They shot everything, even on the move.

                Excuse me, but where is the standard for 350 meters? At all? Maybe I'm really old and forgetful...
                ..At 300 meters height, with standard weapons, 70-80% of the personnel in a normal unit should be taken down... In reality, - 50-60%...
                hi
                1. +1
                  5 September 2025 23: 33
                  Quote: AAG
                  Quote: nedgen
                  Quote: AAG
                  Quote: nedgen
                  Quote: KCA
                  A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training

                  I don't know if this is true, but when I served in the army, a long-range full-length target was located at 300-350m. And the target was a machine gun crew at 200-250m (depending on the target situation). And this is for the AKM!!! A distance of 400m for a full-length target is too small in my opinion.

                  It looks like you got the wrong addressee. (The message came to me, and you, it looks like, replied "KSA"...
                  On topic: try to scare someone from three hundred meters with an AKS-74U (I'm exaggerating)...
                  By the way, I've never fired a shot from an AKM worse than "Good" in 22 years of service...

                  Sorry, Alexander. By the way, unfortunately, I never shot an AKM in the army. In my division, everyone only had AKS-47s. And still, almost everyone shot down full-length targets at 350m. And how the infantry shot... I just couldn't believe my eyes. They shot everything, even on the move.

                  Excuse me, but where is the standard for 350 meters? At all? Maybe I'm really old and forgetful...
                  ..At 300 meters height, with standard weapons, 70-80% of the personnel in a normal unit should be taken down... In reality, - 50-60%...
                  hi

                  Well, at one time I got my hands on a book that indicated at what distances the targets for the AK and AK-74 should be located. For the AK it was indicated that the long-range full-length target was located at a distance of 300 to 350 m, and for the AK-74 at a distance of 400 to 450 m. (I was even surprised at what distance the AK-74 should shoot at). (By the way, the RPK-47 should have been at 400-450 m, but I don’t remember for the RPK-74. Maybe also at 400-450 m.) The machine gun target was at a distance of 200 to 250 m, and the short-range full-length target was at 100-150 m (the last two for the AK. I don’t remember for the AK-74). In general, the distances were not firmly indicated. (For example, a machine gun at 200 m.) And it would hardly have been possible otherwise because usually at our shooting range there were 3-4 different target situations and you never know which targets will be raised (I mean distances, and the order, if I remember correctly, was first the long-range one, then the machine gun one, and then the close one.) But you never know whether it will be raised on the right or the left.
                  1. Aag
                    0
                    5 September 2025 23: 51
                    Quote: nedgen
                    Quote: AAG
                    Quote: nedgen
                    Quote: AAG
                    Quote: nedgen
                    Quote: KCA
                    A full-length target at a distance of 400 m was a test for snipers with SVD after training

                    I don't know if this is true, but when I served in the army, a long-range full-length target was located at 300-350m. And the target was a machine gun crew at 200-250m (depending on the target situation). And this is for the AKM!!! A distance of 400m for a full-length target is too small in my opinion.

                    It looks like you got the wrong addressee. (The message came to me, and you, it looks like, replied "KSA"...
                    On topic: try to scare someone from three hundred meters with an AKS-74U (I'm exaggerating)...
                    By the way, I've never fired a shot from an AKM worse than "Good" in 22 years of service...

                    Sorry, Alexander. By the way, unfortunately, I never shot an AKM in the army. In my division, everyone only had AKS-47s. And still, almost everyone shot down full-length targets at 350m. And how the infantry shot... I just couldn't believe my eyes. They shot everything, even on the move.

                    Excuse me, but where is the standard for 350 meters? At all? Maybe I'm really old and forgetful...
                    ..At 300 meters height, with standard weapons, 70-80% of the personnel in a normal unit should be taken down... In reality, - 50-60%...
                    hi

                    Well, at one time I got my hands on a book that indicated at what distances the targets for the AK and AK-74 should be located. For the AK it was indicated that the long-range full-length target was located at a distance of 300 to 350 m, and for the AK-74 at a distance of 400 to 450 m. (I was even surprised at what distance the AK-74 should shoot at). (By the way, the RPK-47 should have been at 400-450 m, but I don’t remember for the RPK-74. Maybe also at 400-450 m.) The machine gun target was at a distance of 200 to 250 m, and the short-range full-length target was at 100-150 m (the last two for the AK. I don’t remember for the AK-74). In general, the distances were not firmly indicated. (For example, a machine gun at 200 m.) And it would hardly have been possible otherwise because usually at our shooting range there were 3-4 different target situations and you never know which targets will be raised (I mean distances, and the order, if I remember correctly, was first the long-range one, then the machine gun one, and then the close one.) But you never know whether it will be raised on the right or the left.

                    I won't argue, colleague...
                    Simply: it stuck in my memory, yeah, I checked via the Internet (and it was already 4:40 here), I remember: chest - 100 m, machine gun - 250, height - 300 m...
                    With AKM, it's easy!
                    With AKS-74-U, perhaps, only by chance...
                    To be fair, this is in the Strategic Missile Forces...
                    In case of a real stir, both motorized riflemen and paratroopers should be assigned to us... Aha! I believe it...
                    1. +1
                      7 September 2025 01: 25
                      memory is stuck, yeah, I checked via the Internet (and it's already 4:40 here), I remember: chest - 100 m, machine gun - 250, height - 300 m...
                      A chest figure at 100 meters only in the initial exercise... In the training shooting exercise (TFE) there are two chest figures already at 200-150 meters... In the control shooting exercise (CFE) there is no chest figure, there are two full-length figures: at the far line - 300-250 and at the near line - 200-150 m... Machine gun crew (in TFE and CFE) - 250-200 m.
                      This is exactly the shooting course for the branches of the armed forces and special forces, i.e. relevant for you... There was another shooting course for the infantry, and there were more exercise options and the distances were somewhat different...
      3. +7
        5 September 2025 12: 33
        Quote: Alekseev
        Everything for its own purposes.


        The task of army snipers may also be to combat drones and quadcopters. It is too early to write off snipers.
      4. +7
        5 September 2025 18: 58
        Each rifle has its own task.
        And the article reminds me of Nikita Sergeevich’s opinions: why do we need aviation and tanks when we have missiles?
      5. +2
        7 September 2025 00: 43
        SVD range 300 - 400 m?
        This is for those who don't know how to shoot.
        That's for sure! The author has really brought the SVD down... to the level of Kalashnikov assault rifles! fool He is probably a "great expert" in the everyday life of the infantry, about whose squads (with a sniper on staff) he tells here... Actually, according to the KS SO, BM and T SV-84, according to the conditions of the 1st UKS (control shooting exercises), that same sniper (with SVD) of the motorized rifle squad, in addition to other targets, was supposed to hit target No. 9 (RPG) at a distance of 700 meters (at night, with a night sight - 500 m.)... And nothing, in the distant times of my lieutenant service in the "makhra" (infantry), the conscript boys who stood in the positions of those same snipers of the MSO, somehow coped with this task...
      6. +1
        7 September 2025 02: 04
        It is used in battle to repel attacks,

        That's it!
        We open fire at a distance of 600 with a sight of 5. We aim at the buckle on the belt. We shoot those who wave their arms or drag something large and heavy. We do not change the sight and position until the first mine explodes.
    3. + 20
      5 September 2025 07: 36
      dvp, the article was written by an amateur who apparently has never even held an SVD in his hands. So there is nothing to discuss in the article.
    4. + 12
      5 September 2025 07: 36
      I agree with a number of conclusions about the Author's work.
      For example,
      Night conditions reduce the effective firing range (even with a high-quality thermal imager), which also does not play in favor of the Marksman SVD.

      Probably the opposite, reducing the distance increases the effectiveness of any firearm
      1. +3
        5 September 2025 09: 22
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Night conditions reduce effective firing range

        What is meant here is the effective firing range.
    5. +3
      5 September 2025 10: 32
      It's strange, I read a number of articles on the Internet that are directly opposite to the author's assessment of the SVD. It is clear that long-range rifles are needed, and that shooters need to be trained (preferably from childhood, and preferably not from the offspring of "valuable specialists"). But the role of the SVD, I think, has increased. In some places in the article, the author contradicts himself, describing battles in dense urban areas. I think the author's conclusions about the role of the SVD are incorrect.

      Many conclusions are correct. From personal communication - there are units, mainly in the depths of positions, which were fully armed with SVDs during mobilization. Like AK is needed in positions, but for you it will do. laughing I.E., the SVD is less in demand, you can’t use it in a trench, and if you get captured, then… love

      It is also true about shooting at drones, one of the snipers brought 3-4 drones per mission. He brought them, collected those that fell on our positions. True, the sniper was a real expert, he studied back in the USSR in the Baltics somewhere.
      1. +3
        5 September 2025 12: 26
        I have a neighbor who knocks the cork off an empty bottle of champagne with his "Moose". The distance is 100-200 meters. True, he takes a long time to aim, watches until the feather grass freezes, so that there is no wind. He shoots from his knees. He has been with a gun since childhood (his father is a forester). We have someone who can work with an SVD. The author contradicts himself: he writes that today they go on the attack in twos and threes. Well, if you put such a camouflaged marksman in there, how long will it take him to destroy these two or three?
        1. +1
          5 September 2025 13: 04
          I have a neighbor who knocks the cork off an empty bottle of champagne with his "Moose". The distance is 100-200 meters. True, he takes a long time to aim, watches until the feather grass freezes, so that there is no wind. He shoots from his knees. He has been with a gun since childhood (his father is a forester). We have someone who can work with an SVD. The author contradicts himself: he writes that today they go on the attack in twos and threes. Well, if you put such a camouflaged marksman in there, how long will it take him to destroy these two or three?

          I have no doubt. SVD, IMHO, is the best small arms of the USSR and RF. hi
        2. Aag
          +2
          5 September 2025 23: 38
          "Moose" - bolt. (If I'm not mistaken, it was a long time ago, when I was interested in the topic... Now, I hope, the experts will come running and give everyone minuses!))))...
          It is not correct to compare SVD with them!
          Especially, in a regular unit, without frills... IMHO: SVD is a completely functional machine - at the initial stage of sniping... Further, - according to preferences... As an entry level, - so, - in
          Completely!
        3. +1
          6 September 2025 08: 24
          There is a channel called "Wild", there was a story about hunting in Transbaikalia. A hunter with a Tiger shot down two moose in a row at 650 meters.
      2. +1
        7 September 2025 02: 13
        The SVD is less in demand, you can’t use it in a trench,

        And what to do in the trenches with an oar? That's right. If there is a hunter on the other side, then you need to question people, who saw what, where who ran...
        YOU CANNOT AVOID A DUEL, this is the code and the immutable truth.
        True, there are groups with KSK for this purpose, but they are not always (there are forty lines of swearing here) on your site....
    6. +1
      5 September 2025 15: 43
      The fact that the SVD, with its range of up to 600 m (a well-trained sniper, which is not the case everywhere), is no longer effective has been said before. And since 2014, it has been said loudly and a lot. However, everything ended with talk. The Chukavin rifle, which has approximately the same performance characteristics, is in the same position. What will be the way out of the current situation - we will see.
      1. +2
        5 September 2025 17: 47
        Maybe we need to work on the ammunition? Our cartridges are causing a lot of complaints.
        1. +1
          5 September 2025 17: 53
          If you develop a new cartridge, then it would be better to make a new weapon for it. They made a new cartridge for the PM, how much did they suffer then? And then, they switched to other pistols anyway.
          1. +1
            5 September 2025 19: 49
            Yes, it is better to improve the existing cartridges. I have read a lot of complaints about our cartridges. About 30mm 2A42 shells by the way too. Here they wrote that the Europeans worked with our 30mm shells and the armor penetration improved.
            1. 0
              5 September 2025 20: 15
              Different jobs require different cartridges. My former colleagues, during the first Chechnya, bought cartridges for the SVD in a hunting store, they were better than those from the warehouse, even though it was written on them that they were sniper. How it is possible to radically improve a 30-mm shot without a complete redesign - I have no idea.
              1. 0
                7 September 2025 02: 47
                My former colleagues, During the first Chechnya, cartridges for the SVD were bought in a hunting store, They were better than the ones from the warehouse, even though it was written on them that they were sniper ones.

                Eh! I remember it like it was yesterday... You'd go to the mountains, and all around there would be stalls selling "silver nose" cartridges... And mustachioed sellers, - "Hey! Listen, brother! Don't pass by - take it, try it!"
                In reality, you sit for a long time by candlelight and conjure like a medieval alchemist. Weigh, measure, select...
                From a gas mask bag you sew a bracelet for your hand with 5 tracers (what are they for?), so that you are warm under the "skin"... Those were the days...
                1. 0
                  7 September 2025 11: 21
                  It's very funny, but if it's really complicated, I'll explain))) Before a business trip, people went to the store and bought cartridges.
                  1. 0
                    7 September 2025 11: 49
                    P.S. I'm the first one to hear of SVD being fired with tracer))) It clogs the barrel so much that you'll have a hard time cleaning it later.
                    1. +1
                      7 September 2025 12: 12
                      This is the first time I've heard of a tracer being fired from an SVD))) It clogs the barrel so much that you'll have a hard time cleaning it later.

                      Yes. For targeting. And cleaning is the lesser evil. You have to change your position immediately. And no one will do it for you.....
                      1. +1
                        7 September 2025 12: 25
                        You have to change your position immediately. And no one will do it for you.....

                        By the way, the saga of positions:
                        If everything is calm in the "area", then we put aside the good or bad "oar" and take up ... a shovel.
                        A good bed (for the general development of resource colleagues) is dug at night and in the rain (it masks the sounds of work). The soil is carefully pulled out on a raincoat. The flanks are mined with MONs. And there should be two of these. And several jumping positions.
                        Each one needs to have a fire card drawn up. Take care of the household...
                      2. 0
                        7 September 2025 14: 07
                        We had a magazine for target designation, the group's locks had one, through two, the third tracer - more than enough. And to disfigure the SVD and designate the sniper's position is stupid.
                      3. 0
                        7 September 2025 14: 15
                        But to disfigure the SVD and mark the sniper's position is stupid.

                        Alas. Sometimes it is a necessity... and caused by necessity.
                        If there's only you and the "transformer" (Shilka) in the area, then you have to work like that. And, I repeat, the tracer temperature must be equal to the body temperature. Otherwise, it flies into the ditch.
                      4. 0
                        7 September 2025 14: 33
                        We had a magazine for target designation, the group's lock had 2, the third tracer - more than enough.

                        And how does it work? In case of trouble, I insert a cartridge by hand and leave the position. But here you need to find a lock, so that he short-circuits the magazine, and explain where to give the target designation...
                      5. 0
                        7 September 2025 15: 09
                        And there is no need to look for the lock, it is in position and monitors the situation, and sees the targets that need to be pressed. For that, a separate magazine, in a separate cell on the unloading, so as not to mix up. Changing the magazine - 5 sec.
                      6. 0
                        7 September 2025 15: 12
                        And there is no need to look for the castle, he is in position and monitors the situation, and he himself sees the targets that need to be crushed.

                        How?!! (Here I got a little nervous), how will he see from his position what I see in the sight field?!
                      7. 0
                        7 September 2025 15: 14
                        Doesn't your castle have binoculars? Isn't it supposed to? What does it do then? If it looks at the battlefield and doesn't control the situation?
                      8. 0
                        7 September 2025 15: 48
                        Doesn't your castle have binoculars? Isn't it supposed to have them? What does it do then? If he looks at the battlefield and does not control the situation?

                        Then oh! Anyone looking through binoculars is easy prey. "Pistol meat, worth a little more than a ruble
                        This is much for a swineherd, but little for a king..."(C)
                        How?! How can I feed this manganese anhydride to him, where should I look? He may be on the flank, 150-200 from me..
                      9. +1
                        7 September 2025 16: 00
                        You can look through binoculars in different ways, a person has brains and combat experience for that. And if a lock (group commander) does not know how to choose the right place for observation and command, then he is simply in the wrong place. His place is a private rifleman. That is why in our company, before giving a person a position and stripes, we looked carefully, studied from all sides and only then wrote an order on the appointment.
                      10. 0
                        7 September 2025 16: 10
                        And if the lock (group commander) does not know how to choose the right place for observation and command, then he is simply in the wrong place.

                        Maybe. But I'm looking at the monitor with my own eyes now..
                      11. 0
                        7 September 2025 17: 53
                        Well, who can argue, I was just a castle. They taught me and demanded from me. True, they gave me almost everything necessary, too.
      2. 0
        7 September 2025 02: 20
        About the SVD, with its range of up to 600 m. (well trained sniper, and this is not everywhere), is no longer effective, it was said before. And since 2014, it has been said loudly and a lot.

        Exercise: Distance 300 (known), 5 tablespoons, stuck with their handles into the parapet, 1 magazine. That's how they taught! And machine gunners were taught to fire on the reverse slopes of heights and over the heads of advancing infantry... Aha! From Maxim, Degtyar and MG.
        Their rifle is bad! Their hands are a little crooked from the keyboard...
        1. 0
          7 September 2025 11: 23
          And do you get the difference between a training ground and a war?))) Or is the keyboard to blame here too?))) No one is saying that the SVD is bad. The point is that it does not meet the new conditions. It was good in the 70s and 80s of the last century. However, over the past 40 years, war has changed significantly. There are situations when it is still okay, and there are situations where it has nothing to do at all.
          1. 0
            7 September 2025 11: 44
            No one is saying that SVD is bad. The point is that it does not meet the new conditions.

            New conditions give us new tools. We take 6P9 (Vintorez) to the city, we go to the villains - V-94 or KSK "Rys", and where necessary - "Biathlon-6". And there are a lot of SVD and it "can even be given to Borya".
            1. 0
              7 September 2025 11: 46
              Who argues that SVDes were churned out in huge numbers during the Soviet Union and even after? The point is that the shooting conditions and distances were very different from those Dragunov used to make it.
              1. 0
                7 September 2025 12: 01
                The point is that the shooting conditions and distances are very different.

                The conditions are the same - either you or them. Distances.... yes, I agree. In the city the distance rarely exceeds 80 meters (I participated in drawing up firing cards for the city of Tver about 25 years ago), but this does not cancel out the acquisition of shooting skills at 600, and the PSO-1-1 is designed for 400. What to do here?
                Then shout: "But they're not trained!!!"
                And where can we find time for everyone to do “from the Mosin rifle and SVT-40 to Galil and Heckler, mother of all things, Koch.”
                At least there are benefits and regular tasks for the SVD. At least something!
                1. +1
                  7 September 2025 14: 05
                  Actually, we are not talking about urban combat, although in the city, even 80 m is not everywhere, as a rule 30-40 m. My colleagues who went to Chechnya, already in 1995, used not POS, but their own sights, also bought in the store. The adapter for them to fit the SVD was made for them by their grandfather at the factory. True, they were not conscripts, they were already ensigns, they had the opportunity, and the authorities turned a blind eye, because they needed the result. Manuals - they do not shoot, they are in the office.
                  1. 0
                    7 September 2025 15: 09
                    we are not talking about urban battles, although in the city, even 80 m. is not very common everywhere, as a rule 30 - 40 m.

                    My statistics were spoiled by hippodromes, stadiums, and other parks with carousels.
                    So, on the PSO 1-1 sight there is one click (Belarusian) and no need to be clever.
                    The adapter so that they would fit on the SVD was made for them by my grandfather at the factory.

                    Ask them again. The adapter for the battery is sawed from a folding frame. For the rest there is.... The "dovetail" lug on the SVD is made as standard. Right on the wall of the receiver.
                    1. 0
                      7 September 2025 15: 11
                      It was in 95, SVDs were still Soviet. By the way, my friends really liked SVDs - specifically those from the 70s, the quality of the steel was good, in the 80s it was worse.
                      1. 0
                        7 September 2025 15: 13
                        It was in 95, the SVDs were still Soviet.

                        This was my first war...
    7. 0
      7 September 2025 17: 48
      Das sehe ich genauso. Das SVD erfüllte in der ehemaligen sowjetischen und jetzigen russischen Armee die Aufgabe eines "Designated Marksman Rifle". Es diente als Unterstützungswaffe innerhalb des Zuges oder der Gruppe, und sollte Prioritätsziele bekämpfen die außerhalb der effektiven Reichweite von Sturmgewehren lagen. Der Langstrecken Präzisionsschütze welcher selbstständig agiert wurde erst während der SVO geschaffen. Es ist auch recht fragwürdig ein Präzisionsschützen Team mit einem ATGM Team zu vergleichen, sowohl von der Einsatzdoktrin her als auch von der Waffenwirkung.
  2. -4
    5 September 2025 05: 17
    Therefore, all high-precision small arms now operate at distances of one kilometer.

    A bullet flies a distance of 1 km in a little over a second. And a person walks about 1 meter in a second at a leisurely pace. Any other questions?
    1. + 13
      5 September 2025 07: 18
      They shoot at moving targets with lead time... hi
      1. 0
        5 September 2025 09: 40
        Moreover, they shoot at them in long bursts.
        1. + 23
          5 September 2025 10: 26
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          Moreover, they shoot at them in long bursts.

          The machine gun crew that hit the target one hundred times within the allotted time won the sniper competition. laughing
    2. +5
      5 September 2025 10: 54
      Quote: Amateur
      A bullet flies a distance of 1 km in just over a second

      Did you fly 1 km at 800 m/s? No... it flies for almost 3 seconds. Do you know why? Because at distances greater than 800-900 meters (depending on temperature) it already switches to subsonic. Because the bullet flies in the air, and not like a spherical horse in a vacuum.
      Quote: Amateur
      Any questions?
      1. +2
        5 September 2025 13: 46
        What are you trying to prove to me? That a bullet takes more than 1 second to fly? That's what I wrote. And for what purpose? To show that shooting at a distance of more than 1 km at a moving target is complete nonsense and that you can only hit the target by accident or in American reports. And also wind, altitude, humidity and a million other factors.
        1. 0
          5 September 2025 13: 53
          Quote: Amateur
          more than 1 second?

          Quote: Amateur
          a little over a second

          Ooo... upgrade (c) Matrix 2
          Why do you change your shoes mid-flight then? "A little more" is a situational human concept, and "more" is a mathematical one. These are slightly different things.
          Quote: Amateur
          And then there's wind, altitude, humidity and a million other factors.

          I hope you had, among other things, the gradient of these quantities throughout the flight. Also, the BC, derivation, Magnus effect, Coriolis force and many more scary words from what is taught far from universities.
        2. +1
          5 September 2025 15: 37
          Quote: Amateur
          What are you trying to prove to me? That a bullet takes more than 1 second to fly? That's what I wrote. And for what purpose? To show that shooting at a distance of more than 1 km at a moving target is complete nonsense and that you can only hit the target by accident or in American reports. And also wind, altitude, humidity and a million other factors.

          Sorry Victor, but you are wrong about something. The thing is that snipers almost always shoot not at moving targets, but at those targets that are at rest. For example, an observer from a trench does not move! There are many examples.
          1. 0
            5 September 2025 15: 41
            For example, an observer from a trench doesn’t move!

            Why doesn't it move? Only its up/down movement, unless of course it wants to get a bullet in the forehead
            1. +3
              5 September 2025 15: 42
              Quote: Amateur
              For example, an observer from a trench doesn’t move!

              Why doesn't it move? Only its up/down movement, unless of course it wants to get a bullet in the forehead

              Well, to see at least something through binoculars you need to not move for at least 3-4 seconds. laughing
              1. -1
                5 September 2025 15: 44
                He stuck his head out. Started looking. The sniper saw him. Aimed. Shot. The bullet flew... Calculate how much time passed yourself.
                1. 0
                  5 September 2025 18: 21
                  Quote: Amateur
                  He stuck his head out. Started looking. The sniper saw him. Aimed. Shot. The bullet flew... Calculate how much time passed yourself.

                  It turns out that in your opinion there is no work for snipers with "Twilight" rifles. But according to reviews from SVO, there is work and they are in great demand. After all, they shoot at distances of more than 1 km. Usually even more than 1,5 km. And they hit. Although their bullet flies for more than 3 seconds!!! Probably more than 5 seconds.
                2. +1
                  9 September 2025 19: 19
                  He leaned out. Started looking. The sniper saw him. Aimed. Shot.

                  Your sniper is a fool! If he shoots at everything he sees. You could even give him a doll...
                  According to the observer, all eyes were not looking at him in order to immediately start working...
        3. -1
          5 September 2025 16: 43
          Now many snipers who shoot at a distance of more than 1 km are very surprised.
          1. -1
            5 September 2025 18: 02
            Quote: Dmitry_Likhoded
            There are now many snipers who shoot at a distance of more than 1 km,

            No. It's just that there are a lot of weapons for .338LM, etc. For 1 km with such a brain drain you don't need much, as well as skills. There is such a discipline. It has a term - but it's hard to understand. Let's say it's subsonic high-precision. This is when a bullet at long distances - goes subsonic. Absolutely unpredictable in flight. People who have skills in it are snipers. And the rest is just for the bread. request
        4. +1
          9 September 2025 20: 37
          That's what I wrote. And why? To show that shooting at a distance of more than 1 km at a moving target is complete nonsense and you can only hit it by accident.

          Well, some have a ballistic computer that calculates the aiming point.
      2. 0
        5 September 2025 17: 56
        Well, that's what I'm talking about, that at long distances the shooting conditions change. And wind is not the only parameter. Our instructor told me that over a ditch where the water is icy and the air temperature is +40, the bullet will sag on the trajectory.
        1. 0
          5 September 2025 17: 59
          Quote: TermNachTER
          that over the ditch, in which the water is icy

          good instructor good
          There is a difference in air density due to different temperatures, air flows. Shooting through water obstacles is generally one of the most difficult disciplines in high-precision. There you need to shoot and develop the skill more intuitively. No balcalculator will tell you such things.
          1. +3
            5 September 2025 19: 00
            Well, our instructor, senior lieutenant Zhdanov, rattled off two stints in Afghanistan. He's probably no longer alive. He was already over 40 then.
            1. +2
              5 September 2025 19: 07
              Well then let's shudder for our "Grandfathers" drinks soldier
              Quote: TermNachTER
              I served twice in Afghanistan
              1. +1
                5 September 2025 19: 10
                God bless them, they were trained well and conscientiously.
        2. 0
          9 September 2025 20: 41
          Moreover, wind is not the only parameter.

          The wind at a distance can blow with different strengths and in different directions. If you are not sure, do not shoot.
    3. +2
      5 September 2025 12: 40
      Yes. The person may be motionless. It all depends on the angle, if the person is moving straight at the shooter, such movement will not affect the accuracy of the shot. You can shoot with a calculated lead.
      1. +1
        9 September 2025 21: 02
        If a person is moving directly towards the shooter, such movement will not affect the accuracy of the shot.

        It will affect if there is relief on the target's path. Therefore, the aiming point is chosen to be the belt buckle. At a distance of 400, the derivation can be neglected. At 600, the SVD gives 12-15 cm to the right of the shooter. (On English rifles - to the left).
    4. 0
      6 September 2025 15: 47
      The SVD bullet flies for 1000 seconds at a distance of 2.12 m. For a walking figure of a shooter, the lead is taken at 6.5 figures. You do not have to answer questions, you have to read the shooting tables.
      1. +1
        9 September 2025 21: 11
        An SVD bullet flies for 1000 seconds at a distance of 2.12 m.

        In standard conditions. At high humidity it will have to be "thrown to the first corner" and counted 2.40 flights.
        The question here is about determining the distance... about the exact determination.
        And these are the same shooting tables, and ready-made solutions in the head.
        And modesty, of course. Not everyone tries to hit a 1.300 meter tall running figure into the "third corner" of the net (1.7 m). hi
        1. -1
          10 September 2025 09: 13
          Of course, I agree with you. I answered For the amateur, who greatly underestimated the flight time and seemed to have never heard of the lead point.
    5. 0
      7 September 2025 11: 49
      Any questions?

      Yes. Where did you put the ready-made solutions to the problem?
      They shoot at moving targets with lead time...

      And the amount of lead and derivation sits in the head as soon as the distance is found.
      And these "chants" are in everyone's head, like, "With a 6-mm scope, aim for the left shoulder strap - you'll hit between the eyes" and the like.
    6. 0
      12 September 2025 23: 13
      Quote: Amateur
      A bullet flies a distance of 1 km in just over a second.

      Just over 2 seconds.
  3. +8
    5 September 2025 05: 42
    In the motorized rifle unit there was a regular position of an infantry sniper with an SVD, who not only supported his unit with high-precision fire, but also went on the offensive himself. Nowadays, no one in their right mind would go on an assault with an SVD.

    Nowadays, no one in their right mind would go on an assault without the cover of reconnaissance and strike UAVs. Stop preparing for the wars of the past. Today, a target can be guaranteed to be destroyed (if desired and properly equipped) ten kilometers from the LBS.
    I don't understand what the author wanted to say with the material about the unsuitability of the SVD. What is suitable then? In urban assaults, a silent automatic weapon that hits the enemy at a distance of 200-400 m is suitable. And instead of a sniper's prone position, it's time to prepare some kind of robotic mobile mounds that imitate the terrain. We also worked on the return route to the operator.
    It is likely that the development of laser weapons will make it possible to disable the enemy at long distances with minimal risk of destruction...
    But this is all still fantasy, not devoid of common sense...
    1. +1
      5 September 2025 12: 25
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The development of laser weapons will likely make it possible to disable an enemy at long distances with minimal risk of destruction.

      in space, on earth it's better to forget about it.
    2. 0
      5 September 2025 16: 42
      Quote: ROSS 42
      the development of laser weapons will make it possible to disable the enemy at long distances with minimal risk of destruction...

      If the curvature of the globe does not interfere (this is about surface-to-surface application) laughing
  4. + 25
    5 September 2025 06: 13
    The statement that the SVD "did not survive" the SVO, which is put in the title, is not true. Rather, the SVO "narrowed" the functionality of the SVD, as well as tanks, but they lost their significance.
    And so, everything eventually gets old and is replaced, giving way to models with improved performance characteristics, including the SVD.
    1. +5
      5 September 2025 07: 39
      Yes, the author himself talks about this in the conclusion. So, the title is a let down.
  5. +5
    5 September 2025 06: 36
    On the American market, the SVD is a rarity and costs as much as a very good car.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Rifles/search?Keywords=svd
    1. + 10
      5 September 2025 06: 58
      The sanctions are affecting prices. Even a Mosin rifle can no longer be bought cheaply.
    2. 0
      5 September 2025 07: 39
      Nagan, the link is blocked, I understand on a territorial basis...
      1. +2
        5 September 2025 07: 56
        Quote: Dedok
        Nagan, the link is blocked, I understand on a territorial basis...
        Try logging in via VPN...
      2. 0
        5 September 2025 08: 27
        Quote: Dedok
        Nagan, the link is blocked, I understand on a territorial basis...
        1. 0
          5 September 2025 08: 27
          https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2025-09/a4e2244c36_svd.webp

          Thank you
    3. 0
      5 September 2025 11: 04
      They now value everything of ours dearly. Because of the bans. They had the lamentation of Yaroslavna there a couple of years ago.
      Because our cartridges and Kalashnikovs, even original USSR ones, not fake ones (I won’t even mention replicas) - cost much less than average quality AKs (approximately 2 times, and sometimes more).
      That same Brendan Herrera has already gone to Congress to lobby for the gun lobby. And this guy is a straight guy - he loves Kalashnikovs. good There - he brought the AK-50 to mind. The AK is chambered for the .50 BMG cartridge. laughing good
    4. 0
      9 September 2025 21: 22
      On the American market, the SVD is a rarity and costs as much as a very good car.

      And Sveta? SVT-40... with PE or PB
      1. 0
        9 September 2025 21: 47
        Quote: Kerensky
        And Sveta?
        I don't know about optics, they don't offer them today. And without optics, around $3-5k. By the way, I have one.
        https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Rifles/search?Keywords=svt%2040
        1. 0
          9 September 2025 21: 55
          I don’t know about optics, they don’t offer them today.

          Even without optics, the Finns in Talvisota valued it. Their best sniper worked only with open sights.
          1. +1
            9 September 2025 22: 02
            Quote: Kerensky
            Their best sniper only worked with open sights.
            And only a three-line rifle, though locally made, with a heavier barrel, which supposedly improved accuracy. The bastard drank a lot of blood until they straightened out his face.
  6. + 17
    5 September 2025 06: 48
    Dragunov rifle did not survive the special operation

    Oh, come on! There is no end in sight to the special operation, and with such tactics in self-restraint and trade with enemies, we do not need not only the SVD, but also tanks, the Black Sea Fleet, and much more. Guys in twos and threes on mopeds, and "loaves" reinforced with iron, under a swarm of drones. This strange military operation, where the actions of small assault groups are at the forefront, and, in three and a half years of the SVO there has not been a single military operation at the level of a combined arms army. Such "hockey we do not need", it is high time to fight seriously, then there will be victory, and the right conclusions. The SVD is a good and necessary rifle.
    1. +7
      5 September 2025 09: 51
      You know, despite a bunch of bloopers (like the effective fire range of 300-400 clearly indicated to promote the new rifle, etc.), I agree with the author, the SVD really hasn’t found a special place for itself in the SVO. But not because it is outdated or bad, but because the SVD is a platoon-level sniper rifle, and we do not operate with platoons now ... Platoons will return - the SVD will return (or something similar), but in order to return platoons or larger units, we need not to “start fighting like adults”, but to start fighting “smartly”, with the suppression of communications, air defense and enemy aviation ... I have already cited the Iraq war as an example a million times, you can take the first (1991) or the second (2003) ... then NATO aviation decided to suppress the enemy's PYO, communications, supplies and only then large ground units, having complete superiority in equipment and training, simply crushed the remnants of Saddam's army, the Iraqis were actually not helped by either fortifications or city blocks - the very possibility of resistance was lost ... but before that, the Americans thought with their heads and prepared for years not to hold parades with competitions, not to talk about how everything they have is “unparalleled in the world” (although as to me the lack of analogs seems to hint at a high probability of erroneous judgment, after all, there are not idiots around), but they were preparing to defeat the enemy armies
      1. +1
        5 September 2025 11: 54
        Quote: parma
        we need to not "start fighting like adults", but start fighting "smartly"

        I will tell you this here, "in an adult way" (in my text "seriously") and "in a smart way" should be identical concepts. What has been going on for four years now will probably be assessed in military history much worse than the previously considered unsuccessful campaign against Finland before the Great Patriotic War.
        As for the SVD, it is not necessarily a "platoon level rifle", especially since it allegedly did not find its place in the SVO. Perhaps it is simply some of our great strategists who did not find their place.
        1. +1
          5 September 2025 13: 53
          Well, we physically can't do it "like adults", "seriously" or "smartly", whatever you call it. We simply don't have the strength or resources for this... all we can do is increase the numbers and try to scale up what we have, but without changing tactics, it's pointless. And to change tactics, we need so much that even the Soviet army didn't have...
          Regarding the "Winter War" - it is difficult to say which conflict was "less successful" or worse organized... after all, the balance of forces, resources and technological superiority was an order of magnitude higher for the USSR - for example, the volume of captured DP machine guns among the Finns was so great that they simply stopped purchasing or producing other models, simply re-equipping their entire army with trophies...
          As for the SVD, I completely agree with you, because the course of military operations is determined by tactics, and not by individual models.
    2. +2
      5 September 2025 11: 08
      Star Wars, however – drones, stormtroopers on mopeds, laser weapons are slowly being brought in.
  7. + 14
    5 September 2025 06: 50
    The author watched the Zvezda TV channel, whose reporters do not come closer than 50 km to the LBS, and drew conclusions... he did not see the SVD... they should have gone to Kupyansk for a report
  8. + 24
    5 September 2025 06: 55
    It's strange, I watched a couple of videos on the tube from fighters on current firearms. And plus a recent video from snipers on the "715" channel. So no one there is copying the SVD, quite the opposite. The only thing that needs to be added to the SVD is a good night light, to expand its capabilities. And that's it.
  9. +9
    5 September 2025 07: 32
    Leaving aside all the claims already made above, a rhetorical question to the author:
    How to do without SVD in mountainous and forested areas? Say, in the Carpathians or the Caucasus.
  10. + 10
    5 September 2025 07: 36
    It is no coincidence that the SVD replacement, the Chukavin sniper rifle, with a rated range of 1200 meters (similar to the Dragunov rifle), allows for operation at 500-700 meters, which is greater than that of the Dragunov product. Due to its higher shooting accuracy, first of all.

    Again the TV channel "Zvezda" laughing . Chukayin's sniper rifle ... passport range ... 1200 meters .... yeah, with the same barrel and the same cartridge laughing ..
    The most popular SVO is the SVDS, with a thickened barrel and folding buttstock. hi .
    1. +7
      5 September 2025 07: 50
      The difference between 500 and 700 meters is simply meaningless. It is almost impossible to hit a target moving along an unpredictable trajectory, either with 500 or 700, the real operating range will most likely be 300 meters, and here the SVD shows excellent accuracy, while it is cheap, mass-produced and unpretentious.
    2. +2
      5 September 2025 11: 09
      Quote: Konnick
      with the same barrel and the same cartridge..

      The difference between the SVCh and the SVD is not in the barrel or the cartridge. It's the fact that the barrel is suspended + the lower-upper scheme, like on the arches. But they say the barrel's "quality" is complete ....mo. There are no declared ones. It beats an ungodly "quantity" of 2+ MOA (like the SVD) according to reviews.
      1. 0
        5 September 2025 12: 26
        Quote: Alexey_12
        Quote: Konnick
        with the same barrel and the same cartridge..

        The difference between the SVCh and the SVD is not in the barrel or the cartridge. It's the fact that the barrel is suspended + the lower-upper scheme, like on the arches. But they say the barrel's "quality" is complete ....mo. There are no declared ones. It beats an ungodly "quantity" of 2+ MOA (like the SVD) according to reviews.

        It's just a "floated barrel" fashion. The RPK-74 with a thicker and longer barrel than the AK-74 has a 500 meter accuracy better than the SVD. They also thought of increasing the length of the rifled part in the SVD from 240 to 320, which of course affected the accuracy. But at one time, they abandoned this length in the SVD because the accuracy worsens when firing armor-piercing incendiary bullets, so they compromised. The SVD will of course have better accuracy with a regular cartridge... but that's from the evil one
        1. 0
          5 September 2025 12: 33
          Quote: Konnick
          The RPK-74, with a thicker and longer barrel than the AK-74, has a 500 meter accuracy better than the SVD.

          I wrote above what the problem with the SVD is. It was called a "whip" because of the thin barrel. It experiences significant lateral overloads (there are plenty of slow-motion videos on YouTube to see this). The SVU has no such problems. But it is not a general-purpose ventilator. And it is noticeably heavier, and not only because of the bipod.
          Quote: Konnick
          the length of the threaded part from 240 to 320

          Not the length of the rifled part, but the "rifling pitch"/"twist" (I understand what you mean, but they may read it wrong). The first SVD variants had 320mm. But their production ended back in the 70s.
          Quote: Konnick
          that when firing armor-piercing incendiary bullets, the accuracy deteriorates

          then 7N1/ (simply sniper) and 7N14 (armor-piercing sniper) were developed. The rifling for them was changed. But although yes - it was a compromise.
          1. +1
            5 September 2025 12: 43
            Quote: Alexey_12
            Not the length of the rifled part, but the "rifling pitch"/"twist" (I understand what you mean, but they may read it wrong). The first SVD variants had 320mm. But their production ended back in the 70s.

            Thanks for the correction. The Tiger has a 320 pitch, but the Tiger is a hunting one.
            1. +1
              5 September 2025 12: 49
              Quote: Konnick
              The Tiger has a 320 step, but the Tiger is a hunting Tiger

              They just left the old lines for the Tiger. The SVD barrel is made by mandrel forging and the 320 mandrels had to be put somewhere. This is essentially a protected SVD. The bullets are heavy hunting ones, i.e. they do not have steel cores. Therefore, 320 mm is quite suitable for them, and the center of mass of the bullet adds stability during derivation. In armor-piercing bullets, and there, as a rule, a heat-strengthened steel core - it shifts the center of mass to the base of the bullet, which makes it less stable and a smaller rifling stroke is needed to stabilize the bullet, especially at ranges of 500-800 meters, when derivation begins to affect.
  11. + 11
    5 September 2025 07: 37
    Dragunov rifle did not survive the special operation

    author, what did you want to convey to your reading audience?
    The SVD will remain the basis of the army for a very long time...
    Are you participating in the order to "trample down" the SVD in the media?
    It's sad that there is no way to give you a "-" under the article!
  12. +6
    5 September 2025 07: 39
    As a result, in a number of cases, long-range truckers with ATGMs provided direct fire support to the assault units. A whole tactic of using missiles was developed, including the use of three types of ATGMs - "Kornet" at long distances, "Konkurs" at medium distances, and "Fagots" are used in conventional close combat.

    You won't get a pat on the head for using expensive ATGMs like this
    1. +3
      5 September 2025 09: 42
      Quote: Konnick
      You won't get a pat on the head for using expensive ATGMs like this

      It's good that a sniper pair is much cheaper. Women will give birth to more, won't they? And a rocket, it costs money.
      1. -1
        5 September 2025 09: 49
        Quote: Winnie76
        Quote: Konnick
        You won't get a pat on the head for using expensive ATGMs like this

        It's good that a sniper pair is much cheaper. Women will give birth to more, won't they? And a rocket, it costs money.

        Well, enough of being smart... there are other means of destroying STATIONARY targets besides ATGMs, and high-explosive ones at that, but a cumulative ATGM should be used against moving targets
        1. 0
          5 September 2025 10: 39
          Quote: Konnick
          There are also, in addition to ATGMs, means of destroying STATIONARY targets, and high-explosive ones at that

          And what are there? at the infantry means of hitting stationary targets with accuracy comparable to ATGMs. Specifically for the infantry itself, because communications and interaction... well, you understand. wink
          Even the Yankees used ATGMs against firing points - if my memory serves me right, in Afghanistan and Iraq. Because range + accuracy + always at hand and no need to bother with coordinates and adjustments.
          Quote: Konnick
          and the cumulative ATGM should be used against moving targets

          It was for this reason that the Kornet was given a guided missile with a high-explosive and thermobaric warhead.
          In essence, ATGMs have undergone the same evolution as RPGs: due to the actual expansion of their scope of application, the original anti-tank weapons acquired ammunition for destroying infantry and firing points.
        2. -1
          5 September 2025 14: 15
          hmmmm. did they make a thermobaric warhead for the Kornet to shoot at tanks?
          By the way, sir, does he know how much ammunition is spent on 1 killed enemy? The price tag starts from 20 to 50 thousand non-rubles, depending on the conflict.
          PS The main losses of the IDF infantry from Hezbollah were due to ATGMs. Kornets and other things were fired at tanks, but Malyutkas with Konkurs and Fagots were fired at the infantry that had taken cover.
        3. -1
          6 September 2025 08: 29
          What ATGMs are for stationary targets? An attack aircraft with a mine and running, threw it and ran away.
    2. 0
      5 September 2025 11: 44
      For Kornet there is a line of high-explosive warheads and a thermobaric one. Obviously not for armored vehicles.
    3. +1
      5 September 2025 12: 35
      Quote: Konnick
      You won't get a pat on the head for using expensive ATGMs like this
      They can more or less ask (if they get really brazen) for the Cornet, the rest is junk: either use it or write it off.
  13. +9
    5 September 2025 07: 46
    What nonsense. Then throw away the AKM, like all automatic weapons, and fight only with ATGMs. The SVD in real life is, on the contrary, super, it’s just not a weapon for a sniper in a hidden position, but for any trained shooter in a trench, dugout, shelter. What would you like to have when defending, an assault rifle or an SVD? Although ideally both are better, they complement each other, it’s a pity they are heavy to carry. And who would you like to attack a fortification against, five with an AKM or two with an SVD?
    You just don't need to treat the SVD as a special purpose sniper rifle and everything immediately falls into place.
  14. +3
    5 September 2025 08: 09
    Judging by the title of the article, I thought of Skomorokhov again. But no. Every squad has an SVD, it's a slightly different weapon, not for top-level snipers.
    1. 0
      5 September 2025 11: 22
      Quote from: lukash66
      This is a slightly different weapon, not for top-notch snipers.

      The best marksmen are simply selected for infantry in the company. Conscripts. It seems they should know this. That is why they are often called company commanders. They do not undergo any separate training (camouflage, equipping positions, working as a paratrooper, etc., etc.) Usually a couple of weeks of courses, and that is if you are lucky. Distances from 450 to 600-700 meters. Then the bullet approaches subsonic and is destabilized (at 1 km, due to derivation, transition to subsonic - it can even fly flat). And it is not for nothing that the SVD was nicknamed "whip" by the common people - because of its very thin barrel. It experiences very strong transverse vibrations. This is corrected in the SVU. But this rifle is not a general-purpose rifle, it is used by "spetznaz" (c).
      1. 0
        5 September 2025 14: 37
        Quote: Alexey_12
        Quote from: lukash66
        This is a slightly different weapon, not for top-notch snipers.

        The best marksmen are simply selected for infantry in the company. Conscripts. It seems they should know this. That is why they are often called company commanders. They do not undergo any separate training (camouflage, equipping positions, working as a paratrooper, etc., etc.) Usually a couple of weeks of courses, and that is if you are lucky. Distances from 450 to 600-700 meters. Then the bullet approaches subsonic and is destabilized (at 1 km, due to derivation, transition to subsonic - it can even fly flat). And it is not for nothing that the SVD was nicknamed "whip" by the common people - because of its very thin barrel. It experiences very strong transverse vibrations. This is corrected in the SVU. But this rifle is not a general-purpose rifle, it is used by "spetznaz" (c).

        Namesake, are you trying to get me? It's useless.😀 And the SVD will still serve, and for more than a dozen years.
        1. 0
          5 September 2025 16: 59
          Quote from: lukash66
          Namesake, are you trying to hook me?

          Not at all. I was just a company sniper in an engineering company for a while. So to speak, I combined duties. I didn't really get to fight, although I have a score to show for it. Once we ran into a Vakhtang, where, according to intelligence, there shouldn't have been one. It's always like that. A fight is the result of someone's screw-up. Communications are still a mess. They offered to go further, training, etc. I didn't go. It's not my thing.
          Quote from: lukash66
          The SVD will still serve for decades.

          It would need a thicker barrel and new rifling. But that would be like redoing the line. And our Kalashmedia doesn't like doing that. Capitalism is in the yard. And SVU - you can't find it with fire these days. The SVD-M is a similar topic.
    2. 0
      5 September 2025 15: 36
      I thought I forgot something. Motorized rifle detachment, one PK, one SVD, one RPG, and a few more Kalashnikovs.
  15. 0
    5 September 2025 08: 23
    The author forgot about the current use of SVD against drones
    1. 0
      5 September 2025 10: 40
      Quote: Konnick
      The author forgot about the current use of SVD against drones

      The article devotes one paragraph to this.
      Another specific niche for using the Marksman rifle can be considered the fight against heavy drones. For example, with heavy agricultural UAVs converted to drop mines. "Baba Yaga" usually comes at night, and machine guns with thermal sights are used to defeat her. Not only machine gunners, but also snipers work very effectively against the slow-moving ash-heap. The self-loading SVD allows you to hit "Baba Yaga" at distant borders with the third or fourth shot. This function cannot be neglected, although it is very specific.
  16. +3
    5 September 2025 08: 23
    A missile, a drone with a grenade, of course, can cause damage from a much greater distance than a rifle. But no one has cancelled combat operations in wooded areas and against single identified targets in the absence of a quadcopter or ATGM at hand...
    It's too early, unwise, and dangerous to give up the SVD. Well, that's what I think...
  17. +1
    5 September 2025 08: 35
    Combat work of units is a whole COMPLEX of everything and different!
    Question... what is already outdated and no one needs it???
    It is unlikely that this can be said about the SVD... those who need it, who have it in their hand and who use it, use it quite well and are in no hurry to refuse.
  18. NSV
    +2
    5 September 2025 08: 55
    Now, does that mean that everyone will have a fixed ATGM weapon?!:) The SVD will serve for a long time, which is confirmed by the photo in the article: yes, this is not a weapon for specialists, it is a weapon that anyone can study and use! And 300-400 meters is not a combat distance for the SVD!!! A well-trained shooter with a normally trained and verified machine gun can do without the SVD, but up to a kilometer...here you can't do without the SVD! Let's add the "S" series cartridge here!
  19. +4
    5 September 2025 09: 00
    From the title, I immediately guessed who the author was, I was not mistaken, a candidate of biological sciences.
  20. +1
    5 September 2025 09: 05
    The Dragunov rifle did not survive


    Yeah. In the middle of the last century, one smart guy said that artillery "didn't survive", "had outlived its usefulness", and all that stuff. Only missiles! He killed all the developments and cut a lot of things. And what happened in the end? He screwed up.
    Conclusion: "There's no point in sticking your nose into the Kalashnikov row with a pig's snout!"
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  22. +1
    5 September 2025 09: 30
    There are so many pearls that I'm just tired of laughing!

    This article substantiates the idea of ​​gradually abandoning the semi-automatic rifle by fighters. close combat.



    Close combat marksman rifle! Cast in granite!

    , where it is simply impossible to set up a sniper position at a distance of 1000 meters. Therefore, all high-precision small arms now operate at distances of one kilometer. And here the SVD simply has nothing to do - its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters.



    1. The squad sniper (who is armed with the SVD) does not need a prepared position. He acts together with the squad.
    2. A squad level sniper rifle is not a precision weapon.
    3. The effective firing range of the SVD is exactly over 300 - 400 meters. I have heard estimates of "up to 800 meters". That is the whole point of a squad-level sniper rifle - to be the long arm of a squad, to effectively hit targets at a distance that a machine gun cannot do.

    And if you really look at the data from the SVO, you can see that squad-level sniper rifles have been used and continue to be used. And they will not go anywhere, the most that will happen in the future is the transformation of machine guns into such designated marksman rifles. For example, this is exactly what the US is trying to do with its M7.
  23. -2
    5 September 2025 09: 47
    Custom-made?
    Or a provocation?
    In the very situation that is happening on LBS, a rifle is more effective than a machine gun. With good sniper armor penetration.
  24. 0
    5 September 2025 10: 00
    in the army there is a "tool" for every job, so it is too early to write off the SVD and SVCh)
  25. +1
    5 September 2025 10: 09
    Well, "a rare photo of an SVD" and the Shtayer standing next to it is just like the mud in the trenches.
    1. +1
      5 September 2025 11: 42
      What kind of Shtayer is this? It's a Ukrainian remake of a Kalashnikov into a bullpup, called "Malyuk". Probably a trophy.
      1. 0
        8 September 2025 09: 25
        Well, I was slow - there is no sight knob and a slightly greenish tint in the photo (and the old one is a bit dull) - this is of course the Vulcan-Malyuk
    2. 0
      6 September 2025 22: 14
      There is a Ukrainian fort nearby. ))) What kind of Steyer has a muzzle brake from an AK-74? )))
  26. +2
    5 September 2025 10: 12
    And here the SVD simply has nothing to do – its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters.

    The level of qualification of this "expert" issuing such conclusions raises a lot of questions....
    300-400 meters is the zone of confident operation of the Kalashnikov assault rifle, but the distance of 500-700 meters is just right for the SVD.
    The SVCh in 7,62*54 caliber is the same SVD in terms of combat characteristics, only glamorized with a long rail for various sights and bipods...
    The Kalashnikov Concern initially needed to organize the production of the SVCh in a more powerful and long-range caliber .338 LM, allowing a sniper to work at a distance of up to 1,5 km against an enemy in body armor and light armored vehicles.
  27. +3
    5 September 2025 10: 29
    The writer, judging by everything, is quite an expert, he picked up something somewhere and writes half-crazy analyses, sucked out of nowhere. Yes, the SVD in the form in which it appeared on the SVO is no longer the best rifle in its class, but do not forget that IzhMash has done a colossal job with it over the past three years. And now in the 7,62x54R class it is almost beyond competition. The grown-up "daughter" of the SVCh is certainly good and will definitely break away from the granny, but the SVD has far from exhausted its modernization potential.
  28. 0
    5 September 2025 10: 41
    This is the thought that came to me.
    If the "gray zone" is so long, and according to some data up to ten kilometers, then a lot of time is spent approaching the assault site.
    The military equipment is of little use and will almost certainly be burned.
    By the time they get there on their hoes, they'll have split their guts, not to mention the threat of being blown up by mines.
    All that remains is the delivery of attack aircraft on heavy UAVs.
    So what.
    The delivery speed is high, the safety from mine explosions is 100%. The surprise factor is very high due to the difficulty of detecting the approach of the assault group.
    So while the object of attack is being processed, the UAVs take each fighter and deliver them to the site.
    They will also be useful in case of emergency evacuation of both the group and the wounded person.
    In my opinion, it's a very attractive picture.
    But, this is the "view from the couch". lol
    1. 0
      5 September 2025 12: 04
      Quote: K-50

      By the time they get there on their hoes, they'll have split their guts, not to mention the threat of being blown up by mines.
      All that remains is the delivery of attack aircraft on heavy UAVs.
      So what.
      The delivery speed is high, the safety from mine explosions is 100%. The surprise factor is very high due to the difficulty of detecting the approach of the assault group.
      So while the object of attack is being processed, the UAVs take each fighter and deliver them to the site.
      They will also be useful in case of emergency evacuation of both the group and the wounded person.
      In my opinion, it's a very attractive picture.
      But, this is the "view from the couch". lol
      Maybe rotocycle Hiller YROE-1
      hi
    2. +1
      5 September 2025 12: 09
      One fpv and your plane flew apart at 100 km per hour laughing and you will be hit hard on the ground Yes
      1. -1
        5 September 2025 13: 00
        Quote: Popuas
        One fpv and your plane flew apart at 100 km per hour laughing and you will be hit hard on the ground Yes

        Do you think that if an FPV hits you on the ground you will only scratch yourself? belay
    3. 0
      5 September 2025 13: 23
      Maybe it would be better to use the Mi 24 in its original version as a flying infantry fighting vehicle???

      Sarcasm if that.
    4. 0
      8 September 2025 14: 38
      All that remains is the delivery of attack aircraft on heavy UAVs.


      Do you think that heavy transport drones won't be shot down in the grey zone?
      Motorcycles or ATVs with large wheels are safer in any case, if you fall off them, the most you can do is hit yourself and twist your leg, but to "fall" together with a damaged or disabled UAV electronic warfare system from 30-50 meters or to fly into a power line is quite a pleasure...
      1. 0
        8 September 2025 14: 54
        Quote: assault
        Do you think that heavy transport drones won't be shot down in the grey zone?

        Well, reaction time. Flying 6-10 km at a speed of almost a hundred takes five or six minutes, but you can also cover part of the way in advance, hiding in the surrounding landscape, and then just dash to the target. One.
        Then, no one forbids organizing their cover with interceptor drones, as well as electronic warfare.
        After all, attack aircraft can also manually control their delivery vehicles, from a remote control, like a regular UAV.
  29. +5
    5 September 2025 11: 00
    [quote]And here the SVD simply has nothing to do – its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters. /quote]
    Well, my friend, he did a great job... This cartridge works very confidently up to 700-800 meters, why belittle a good rifle until now, if the new microwave is built on the SVD bolt carrier group. The whole difference is in the Picatinny rail....and recoil with bonuses
  30. +3
    5 September 2025 11: 35
    from the height of my diva I will express my personal opinion that the SVD remains a relevant weapon for the RF Armed Forces today, yes, it is morally and in some places physically outdated, but the SVD is in too small quantities, and the fakes on the AR10 and AR12 (AR15 with an extended receiver) are not accepted either for equipment or for supply (308./6.5) and are usually bought with non-state money (and also a strong dislike for direct gas outlet and in general an enemy platform), therefore the SVD is the best of what we have, and we don’t have that many

    It is clear that the cost of training (and its time) of full-fledged snipers with a bolt-action rifle capable of covering distances over 800-1000 meters has increased significantly due to sanctions and the military's reluctance to develop this area (the civilian/private sector is developing somehow)

    It is also worth noting the niche of designated marksman rifles for intermediate ammunition (now someone will nitpick the terminology) in short 5.45/5.56 machine guns with more accurate and usually heavy barrels equipped with optics (usually 1-6x/1-8x mounts)
    this niche allows to maintain the efficiency of automatic fire and capacity and unification of ammunition with standard weapons but leaves the possibility of closing distances up to 500 m while maintaining weight, dimensions and, as a result, mobility
    most often on the internet I see ar15 (which is inconvenient because it is 5.56; and less often ak 12)
  31. +1
    5 September 2025 12: 07
    The question about a sniper rifle and its necessity is rhetorical.
    A sniper rifle is needed and that is not up for discussion.
    It's just that we always cancel something and then say that we're behind in this industry.
    There are many examples of this - the cancellation after the Great Patriotic War
    - military climbers;
    - the same snipers
    1. -2
      5 September 2025 14: 47
      Question about caliber.
      7,62 on 54P is morally obsolete.
      And not only morally, but also qualitatively.
      There are many types of sniper ammunition available today.
      It is necessary to choose the optimal one for SVD and redesign it.
      A quality scope wouldn't hurt either.
      And the rifle is good.
      Any proven technology is good!!!
      1. -1
        9 September 2025 10: 29
        Name the sniper ammunition - let's talk.. The rim cartridge is archaic, but economical, since the reserves are bottomless and there is nothing to replace it with today, since there is nothing like it.. Note that in the US there are a ton of calibers, and we are dragging behind them according to their standards.. Until there are our own research and standards for hunting and sports, we will crawl at the tail end..
        1. 0
          9 September 2025 14: 11
          Lapua Magnum, Handel.
          Snipers should have not only these cartridges and calibers - 1. The one that is 7,62 on 54P.
          Let's start with the obvious: the 6,5 caliber is more advantageous in all respects than the 7,62.
          Rant not only makes the world laugh, but also prevents the production of normal automatics for machine guns.
          We cannot afford, like America, a separate caliber for a machine gun, or a separate caliber for a rifle.
          Anything larger than 7mm but smaller than 10mm is used as anti-material. It's just very difficult to hit something accurately with a 12mm rifle, and targets that can't be taken with 10mm bullets should be destroyed not with a rifle but with a drone.
          Nobody says that you need to change the cartridge now, but you should have done it yesterday.
          And existing reserves can always be wasted in war.
          I don't believe they will ever end.
          It is simply not profitable for someone to conduct an audit of existing ammunition.
          And the real users are snipers who really respect, for example, Orsis.
          Look at the calibers it comes in. Or do snipers not know what they need?
          1. 0
            10 September 2025 11: 35
            Lapua Magnum .338 and 6,5 Grеndel are all Western cartridges, either created for hunting (1) or for sports (2). And only then did they start to be used by the military. With us, everything is on all fours, everything is for the army, and then this spontaneity is for hunting and sports. For a machine gun with a belt feed, a rimmed cartridge is also easier for automation.
            1. 0
              10 September 2025 11: 51
              Are rimmed cartridges good? Is that why everyone has abandoned rimmed cartridges?
              Is the cartridge also convenient in SVD rimmed ones?
              About the cartridges - what difference does it make who uses them, the main thing is their characteristics.
              China, for example, uses 5,8 to 42.
              Somehow they justified it for themselves...
              A systematic approach is needed here.
              But you can't save on cartridges
              1. 0
                11 September 2025 09: 59
                For a machine gun, a rimmed cartridge is no worse than a grooved cartridge... that's all... and the fact that a rimmed cartridge was adapted for the SVD at one time was for the sake of economy.
  32. 0
    5 September 2025 12: 08
    The trends in calibers .308 and 7,62x54P are such that there is a transition from bolt-action to automatic... and the main rifle with manual loading is 0.338 and higher.
    The difficulties are not exactly with the SVD, but with the 7,62x54R ammunition. It is inferior to the 0.308 in terms of quality and various gadgets for manual assembly... And the SVD itself is a mass product that has entered into competition with small-scale AR10 and 15 systems for the 0.308 cartridge.

    So the comparison is not entirely correct.
    1. 0
      11 September 2025 10: 09
      The SVD is slightly higher in the AR-10/15 rank, and the 7,62x54 is more powerful than the same .308, but loses to it in components: primers, powder, and bullets. There are hundreds of variations for the .308, and only a few for the 7,62.
      Plus, loading cartridges for rifled weapons was only permitted not so long ago. With the presence of a developed network of hunting enterprises, all that was needed was to unite them with sports and under this auspices begin to develop their own calibers for hunting and sports, and not prohibit and limit... traumatic weapons are an example of this - an illusion of protection and irresponsibility.
      1. 0
        11 September 2025 14: 33
        I agree, plus the SVD (like the AK) is made for mass production at the factory, and making them in small series and customizing them will be more expensive than the AR15.
        But what about being a manufacturer of an AR system? You can be a metalworking shop with one 5-axis machine and all the components are on the market and fit together in terms of connections.

        In general, the 7.62x54P cartridge with a rim needs to be changed.
        1. 0
          12 September 2025 22: 08
          AKs are also assembled in the US in workshops, the box is formed with a hand press, the rest is obtained from manufacturers. Until there is a normal weapons market in the Russian Federation, there is no prospect of creating any new cartridges, calibers, bullets for hunting and entertainment...
          1. 0
            12 September 2025 22: 32
            I'm talking about serial production. Hobbyists can do whatever they want. And the US has its own laws on selling weapons. There, the receiver must be made in the US. Since some year, they introduced
            1. 0
              13 September 2025 21: 52
              That's the problem. The Russian Federation could stamp out assembly plants all over the world, and produce the main parts here (though the quality must be impeccable). If the US needs to make a box, please, stamp it here, bend it and assemble it there... the final product is cheaper when mass produced.
  33. 0
    5 September 2025 12: 09
    Dragunov rifle didn't survive special operation

    Author, it's too early to bury the SVD. It's not only the SVO, but it will also outlive you.
  34. +2
    5 September 2025 12: 34
    The SVD remained in service with the troops and is the main rifle for snipers.
    Only at the beginning of the SVO were there landing operations, where it was very useful. And now small assault groups infiltrate into the immediate rear and attack the enemy on the flank more often.
    There are no mass attacks of tanks and infantry, because drones detect equipment approaching the attack line and direct artillery + drones attack. It turns out to be a vicious circle!
    Until there are effective, mobile, cheap and mass-produced anti-drone systems, tanks will never appear en masse on the battlefield.
  35. +2
    5 September 2025 12: 39
    And here the SVD simply has nothing to do – its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters.
    Well, maybe it is so with PSO-1 (I don't know), but with a normal sight - 2-3 times further - for sure. Accordingly, further reasoning is wrong.
  36. +1
    5 September 2025 12: 47
    Quote: Per se.
    This is a strange military operation, where the actions of small assault groups are at the forefront, and, for three and a half years of the SVO there has not been a single military operation at the level of a combined arms army. Such "hockey we do not need", it is high time to fight seriously, then there will be victory, and the right conclusions.


    Practice is the criterion of truth. This tactic was not arrived at immediately and at the cost of considerable bloodshed. Sending large masses of personnel to assaults would certainly kill our guys without much benefit. Only such "hockey" is possible in modern conditions, with the mass use of drones and the complete absence of the "fog of war".

    So, combined arms operations at the army level went in the same direction as infantry squares with baguettes and carts with Maxim machine guns.
  37. -4
    5 September 2025 12: 53
    The SVD is not a sniper rifle, it is rather just a rifle - an analogue of the FN FAL.
    1. +1
      9 September 2025 10: 33
      FAL is not even close to SVD, shoot from this legal gun at 100 meters, another and you will understand the difference.. SVD is a rifle of a platoon sniper, supporting the platoon in the attack. That says it all: from 100 to 800 meters.
      1. -1
        9 September 2025 23: 01
        It's more likely to be 300-500m.
  38. 0
    5 September 2025 14: 27
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
    Moreover, they shoot at them in long bursts.

    The machine gun crew that hit the target one hundred times within the allotted time won the sniper competition. laughing

    good hi Respect, appreciated! bully
    1. 0
      8 September 2025 10: 39
      Well, the "military acceptance" (which is a TV program) called the Kord machine gun a "sniper machine gun".
      Can be distributed to snipers.
      At least to see what will happen to the munchers. wassat

      But in general, a machine gun that is well mounted on a tripod and can accurately fire at a range of 1 km is better than a sniper rifle (until a sniper crawls up).
  39. 0
    5 September 2025 14: 33
    I read it. I didn't understand anything: is such a rifle needed or not? There it is not needed, but here it is... I understood that a bolt that shoots at km is not needed.
  40. +5
    5 September 2025 15: 02
    "The SVD simply has nothing to do - its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters." At 300 m., the SVD guarantees that a normal conscript sniper will hit the head figure with the first shot. At 650 m., full-length runners were hit. I repeat, conscripts!
  41. AMG
    +1
    5 September 2025 17: 14
    There was never a sniper on the staff of a motorized rifle squad, there was one per platoon. Or 2-3 with the company commander.
  42. +2
    5 September 2025 18: 11
    "The Dragunov rifle did not survive the special operation..." stop A controversial conclusion. After all, just recently the Kalashnikov Concern announced that it was "increasing the production of SVD rifles"! Note - specifically SVD, not SVCh!
  43. +3
    5 September 2025 19: 01
    As a user of SVD and microwave ovens, I can say that SVD is much more convenient and practical than microwave ovens.

    The SVCh has one advantage - a full-length Picatinny rail, made so that the shooter could install not only a day sight, but also a thermal imaging attachment. But no one gives out these attachments and it is not included in the kit, so there is no point in this.

    Now the disadvantages of microwaves:
    - weight, together with sight, bipod is about 8 kg! (incompetent engineers are being cunning, indicating weight without sight and bipod and comparing it with SVD, but SVD with sight weighs only 5 kg);
    - the SVCh barrel is rusting, after shooting I cleaned the SVCh barrel 4 times with an interval of several days and it still rusted;
    - you can only use sniper cartridges with the SVCh, the LPS deviates to the right by 100 meters by 10 cm and the dispersion is greater than that of the SVD, armor-piercing ones are generally scattered by 100 meters so that not all of them fit within the dimensions of the target.

    The accuracy of the microwave does not correspond to the declared 4 cm, in reality it is about 6 cm, the same can be achieved with the SVD.

    In general, if I had a choice of what to go into battle with, I would choose the SVD.
  44. +2
    5 September 2025 19: 10
    ...the effective firing range of the SVD does not exceed 300-400 meters..... What nonsense * the SVD is designed for a range of up to a thousand meters. I personally shot and hit a soldier's plate from 800 m!
  45. -1
    5 September 2025 19: 35
    The most important thing is said at the end.
    The enemy moves from a continuous line of defense to a focal line.

    And this radically changes the tactics of attacking actions.

    Indeed, the Germans used this tactic before the New Year in 1941 near Moscow.

    Infiltration in small groups with such tactics is a completely expected input for the defensive side.


    And here the first snag arises.
    The enemy set up surveillance close to him and zeroed in on the squares.
    Well, even a hundred fighters leaked out in a week - how to supply, how to evacuate the wounded?
    The enemy is designed to identify small groups, strike them with fire, and suppress supplies.

    What realistic goals can be set?
    What tasks are obviously unrealistic?
    (Assault with small forces, most likely).

    What enemy vulnerabilities can be targeted?

    And here again we come to the tactics of influencing supply.

    The main task is to cut off the supply routes of drinking water, for example. And even more so fuel, electricity, ammunition.

    So, sensor and surveillance systems, transmission of coordinates...
    This means remote transmitting devices, microcameras, small autonomous reconnaissance systems.

    It is better to set up video surveillance and several options for remote transmitters than to gather a hundred people with light firearms.

    Another important factor:
    If the enemy detects the group, the front will not come to its aid, at most providing fire support.
    This means we need reconnaissance and suppression of enemy surveillance equipment. Here, too, we need to develop tactics. What, how, who drags what, and where.

    The third.
    Perhaps the far rear will even be somewhat safer than the gray zone.
    In both places, reinforcements will be tight, but the density of defense in the enemy's rear will be less. We also need to think about that.

    It is possible to send in mining groups without the goal of conducting active operations.

    But storming well-prepared positions for all-round defense should be the last thing you think about.
  46. +3
    5 September 2025 19: 53
    What does the SVD have to do with it and what the author shows us? The SVD is a standard weapon in a motorized rifle company, and that says it all. The level of shooters is appropriate, it is a mass rifle and very effective with a trained shooter. And everything else is for special forces and amateurs - professionals who receive this weapon through someone or capture it in battle. That is not what the author is writing about.
  47. +1
    5 September 2025 23: 02
    Lately, a tendency has become clearly visible... to cancel. Moreover, for all previously existing branches of the armed forces, types of weapons and equipment. Well, well, yes... and then the M-55 howitzer, T-XNUMX and Mosinka with an ancient sight.
    The old can be cancelled, rejected and destroyed only when the new has already entered the army and there is a double, triple or even more reserve of it in storage. I won't even mention ammunition... "There are either very few cartridges, or few, but you can't carry more."
    It has not justified its purpose at the moment, but it will in the next situation. Physically and morally, the "old" SVD will survive many more shooting games, because its use at a range of three to four hundred meters is complete crap. This speaks of the low training of snipers, selected by lot, and not by predisposition, not by physical characteristics and moral readiness for this difficult "work".
  48. 0
    6 September 2025 01: 49
    I suppose there will be drones with some kind of aviation "rifle" and the operator will become an aerial sniper at pinpoint targets...
  49. +2
    6 September 2025 08: 43
    The author decided to show himself as an expert in sniping, but instead showed himself to be a person who is very far from the topic.
    Let's start with the fact that the Dragunov rifle is not a sniper weapon at all, but a weapon for supporting a motorized rifle squad. And therefore, comparing it with Lobaev's individual products and large-caliber anti-material rifles, and especially small-caliber guns, is wrong.
    And the idea of ​​using snipers to destroy dugouts is flawed.
    By the way, any general staff can only dream of rewriting combat regulations based on the experience of the SVO after using drugs.
    SVO is not a war!
  50. 0
    6 September 2025 18: 58
    A normal modern article.
    There are no other "researches" now.
    The essence of the article is very simple - the Russian army conducts combat operations using a certain method and within the framework of this method the SVD is not a wunder-waffe. This is the "important" conclusion
    In fact, all "patriotic" "experts" construct their articles in this manner - it doesn't matter what kind of weapon they are talking about. They are all looking for all-penetrating, self-defeating, completely invisible, cheap to produce and of course "only here" - this is the kind of weapon that "experts" DEMAND. In the most patriotic way - like, we should have what we want!
    Let's be serious.
    The author says he needs a first-shot sniper rifle for 1500+ meters. But the SVD can't do that.
    Since we are all normal people here, let's think about how many targets a shooter with such a rifle will have in deep combat? None.
    But the author does not want a weapon for deep combat, but for positional skirmishes between "special forces", that is, essentially, gangs, and for long-range shots in positional assaults.
    But are such military actions necessary at all to achieve Victory? Not to take another village, of course - "strategic" and now definitely "cutting off" the enemy ... everything, supplies, fighting spirit and.. creating conditions for something there...? No, for Victory - to the decisive defeat of all forces and means of the enemy and the capture of its political center, located 500+ km from the front line?
    Nea ...
    The SVD is an individual rifleman's weapon in a motorized rifle squad, which is intended for an offensive, as a rule, as part of a tank division, that is, to an operational depth of approximately 35-40 km. OFFENSIVE, and not pushing into the front line by 10 meters...
    An advancing army does not need a world champion rifle and does not need a rifle for shooting at 1500 meters. At such a distance, a tank hits a stationary target with the first shot. And the price of this shot is less than the cost of the rifle that "patriotic specialists" dream of - the cost of developing and saturating troops with such a rifle, multiplied by the training of super-shooters for it, multiplied by the change of the entire tactical infrastructure - to ensure that they are brought to a position for such shooting...
    Experts, return to the reality of military affairs!
    1. +2
      6 September 2025 19: 17
      "Increments" (c)
      "The marksman rifle is not suitable for long-range shooting."

      I will also note that, unfortunately, it is not always possible to fit a tank into a SSO group. And even the SP-30 is extremely inconvenient to drag around the rear, and there is nothing smaller, intermediate in the area somewhere between the Simonov PTR and the "Slingshot".
  51. +4
    6 September 2025 22: 11
    Its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters.
    + + + + + + + + + +

    The author of the article is Fedorov! I declare to you responsibly that you do not understand at all what a small arms is, and especially an SVD.

    At 300 meters I calmly put all the bullets in the center of the target. And this is a civilian Saiga with a 340 mm barrel and 7.62x39.

    The operating range of a regular SVD is 600-700 meters. A tuned one is 700-900.

    We learn materiel.
  52. +2
    7 September 2025 07: 39
    Fresh video from September 6, where special forces soldiers of the military intelligence group "Dnepr" told details of the operation to storm the Antonovsky railway bridge and eliminate the sabotage and reconnaissance group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that had settled on it. In the first half there is a sniper with an SVD. It is said that the group was supported by a sniper. And the guys do not know that you can't clean guns with a brick.
  53. 0
    8 September 2025 09: 16
    Don't rush to bury Dragunov's brainchild, it will still serve for the glory of the Fatherland. The three-line rifle was also "buried", but no, it shows itself magnificently in capable hands.
  54. 0
    8 September 2025 10: 33
    Because there is a sniper cheerfully farting a couple of kilometers (but you can just drive a tank (the best sniper, because the rangefinder + 125mm high explosive), or hit with a new-fangled quadcopter).

    And there is what in the USA is called a marksman.
    This is like a shooter walking with the rest of the fighters (or a little further away), there the gun is more accurate than the machine gun and he himself is "well, really accurate."

    And for some of this, the SVD is quite suitable.
    Although Abakan might also suit them
    1. 0
      5 October 2025 03: 43
      Anything is fine if the commander isn't obsessed with extorting money from his soldiers. The SVD is an acceptable weapon.
      It’s even interesting how many people answered this simple challenge.
      1. 0
        5 October 2025 09: 15
        I can't imagine how one must lose one's fear to try to oppress fighters in order to extort money.
        They are armed...
  55. +3
    12 September 2025 20: 29
    SVD - effective work at 300-400 meters? I would say - strange...
  56. 0
    5 October 2025 03: 38
    A strange analysis. In fact, the SVD is actively used, by both sides. Shooting down the Baba Yaga isn't the problem; the problem is not shooting it down.
  57. 0
    29 October 2025 03: 12
    In such conditions, combat contact distances inevitably decrease, meaning that dense sniper fire at 200-300 meters will be required.


    A range of 200-300 meters is a reliable kill distance with an assault rifle, and optics aren't required; they'll only interfere with moving targets. A sniper at that range would be instantly riddled with automatic weapons fire. How many shots can he fire before he's completely shredded?
  58. 0
    15 November 2025 11: 04
    In a trench war, a sniper's job is to maintain a constant threat of hitting an unwary enemy, and drone drops do a great job of this, so why bother?
  59. 0
    22 November 2025 05: 28
    "its effective firing range does not exceed 300-400 meters."
    -What???
    With a Saiga in 7,62x39 they can easily reach 500, but here with a rifle with a cartridge twice as powerful they can reach 400. Where do the numbers come from?
    Well, and the Chukavin rifle, judging by actual shooting, is not a cake at all.
    Not take off.
  60. 0
    10 December 2025 21: 25
    The author is simply advertising the Chukavin rifle, although it is not a fact that it is better than the SVD.
    The problem with the quality of our ammunition has its roots in the USSR. Today, I see no prospects for improvement, as thanks to effective managers, who typically have a different education, we have a complete collapse of the scientific production base.
  61. 0
    28 December 2025 19: 09
    I've been reading the comments here, and you're all jumping on the dogma that China is in your rear. Now explain what we'll do if China is on the front lines. Where will you get the FPV kits?
  62. 0
    28 December 2025 19: 11
    I wonder how much the author was paid for the microwave PR.