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PJSC "AvtoKrAZ" will deliver a large batch of automotive vehicles of the Thai army

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PJSC AvtoKrAZ won a tender for the supply of a large batch of KrAZ vehicles for the needs of the Royal Thai Army, the press service of the company reported.


The supplied vehicles will be equipped with a YNP-330Е238-2 X-strong Yaroslavl engine (Euro 33), an 3JS9TA-B gearbox, and a MFZ-150 clutch. All cars - with right-hand drive. According to customer requirements, a hydraulic winch will be installed on the vehicles produced by the Swedish company Sepson.

The victory in the tender was preceded by long-term comparative tests of cars in which AvtoKrAZ OJSC participated along with other manufacturers. Cars were tested in difficult road and climatic conditions of Thailand.

At present PJSC AvtoKrAZ has begun to fulfill the contract. Shipment of cars, according to the tender conditions, is scheduled for August of the current year.
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  1. Gingerbread Man
    Gingerbread Man April 19 2013 12: 16
    +1
    Ukrainians are successfully consecrating Southeast Asia, I noticed.
  2. zanoza
    zanoza April 19 2013 12: 17
    28
    Well, then, Well done in AvtoKrAZ, they don’t sit idly by, act and win! And Yaroslavl benefit from this! good
  3. 120352
    120352 April 19 2013 12: 28
    14
    KrAZ - a great car! Only the coquetry of Russia almost put him on the brink of bankruptcy. The whole Russian North is on them, KraZakh, and holds on. Glad for Kremenchug. For him, this is a second wind. You look, and something will fall into Russia.
    1. itr
      itr April 19 2013 12: 31
      11 th
      Kraz is a great car ???? made fun of. Poor Thais!
      And in the north I live there are very few of them left (wooden cabins are the top of engineering)))) On Urengoy, mainly HOLES and foreign cars. Comedian))))
      1. Navuxonastupil
        Navuxonastupil April 19 2013 12: 35
        -1
        And what is HAVE?
        1. zanoza
          zanoza April 19 2013 12: 45
          +5
          Quote: Navuxonastupil
          And what is HAVE?


          MZKT products (trademark Volat- Bogatyr)
          1. zanoza
            zanoza April 19 2013 16: 07
            +3
            ..."Most KrAZ the Russian Federation acquired last year
            В 2012 most of the year Kremenchug KrAZ bought Russia (629), Latin America (140), the Middle East (130), and the CIS (105). "
            Read more here: http://www.telegraf.in.ua/buisiness/2013/03/20/kuda-uvozyat-kremenchugskie-krazy


            _10028341.html


            Information for thought what
      2. Gur
        Gur April 19 2013 12: 59
        +5
        Well, why are the poor? they probably didn’t buy Krazy with their eyes closed, and not for promises in the form of fat as a free application. These are not us, it’s just that they won’t buy garbage just to cut the dough on supplies, and they will not plunder their army, just like this morning. defense.
        1. itr
          itr April 19 2013 13: 09
          +1
          Well, let's look at this purchase from the logistics side. Delivery from Ukraine to Thailand will cost a pretty penny. Not easier to buy in Korea ???
          There is one explanation for this purchase. Then they will pay money. If they will.
          1. Akim
            Akim April 19 2013 15: 05
            +8
            Quote: itr
            Shipping from Ukraine to Thailand will cost a pretty penny.

            APCs to Thailand carry and nothing. They will immediately send a large batch by sea.
      3. itr
        itr April 19 2013 14: 17
        +1
        Judging by the minuses in my address, people really think that Kraz is a good car. I am surprised !
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. April 19 2013 14: 50
          +3
          Quote: itr
          Judging by the cons in my address


          Judging by the minuses - you just - RIGHT.
          Especially -
          Quote: itr
          I live in the north


          Do not listen to you, do not want ... lol
        2. shpuntik
          shpuntik April 19 2013 17: 56
          +3
          itr (2) Today, 14:17 PM ↑
          Judging by the minuses in my address, people really think that Kraz is a good car. I am surprised !

          And what exactly is bad? At the airports, as I saw, they carry planes. And they work in quarries. Strong car, in my opinion. If the engine is reliable, economical is half the battle. With a wooden cabin do you have, what year of manufacture?
        3. виктор1972
          виктор1972 April 19 2013 19: 50
          +5
          Maybe it’s time to be surprised at one’s own ignorance. This rocket machine was dragging a definitely quality mark.
        4. morpex
          morpex April 19 2013 21: 57
          +2
          Quote: itr
          people really think that Kraz is a good car.

          How do you like it?
        5. morpex
          morpex April 19 2013 21: 59
          -1
          Quote: itr
          people really think that kraz is a good car

          How do you like it?
        6. morpex
          morpex April 19 2013 22: 02
          +2
          Quote: itr
          people really think that Kraz is a good car.

          This is also KRAZ. And why is it bad for you?
      4. Sirocco
        Sirocco April 19 2013 14: 24
        +5
        You probably live yesterday, you probably had a difficult childhood and wooden toys. laughing At the expense of Ty, "AvtoKRAZ" well done, because water does not flow under the lying stone. Or do you have your own laws of physics belay
        1. itr
          itr April 19 2013 14: 27
          +1
          You are wrong about my childhood
          Well, about Kraz explain what qualities he has that being such a good car he is on the verge of collapse (I'm talking about the enterprise)
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco April 19 2013 16: 27
            +5
            Quote: Sirocco
            At the expense of Ty, "AvtoKRAZ" well done, because water does not flow under the lying stone. Or do you have your own laws of physics

            You probably did not carefully read my comment. I’ll chew for you in more detail. We have all of Russia, in the late 90s was on the verge of collapse. If our powerful men had acted, according to your logic, then most likely only a mention in history would have remained from Russia. And so look what is being done in our country, with a quiet glanders, slowly, climbing out of this hole. Although many do not like it. hi
          2. виктор1972
            виктор1972 April 19 2013 19: 57
            0
            You still didn’t understand, power and reliability! I won’t be surprised if KAMAZ took something from them.
        2. ultra
          ultra April 19 2013 17: 22
          +1
          Quote: Sirocco
          AvtoKRAZ "well done, because water does not flow under a lying stone.
          Well done, no one argues! One BUT, how they survive with such "production volumes"! hi
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco April 19 2013 18: 26
            +2
            Personally, I have no idea how they survive. Probably like all of us in Russia. I don’t know, true or not, about contracts with Thailand. But the very desire to survive, and to do something, is always welcomed to preserve the small that remains of the former giant named KRAZ.
            1. виктор1972
              виктор1972 April 19 2013 19: 58
              0
              And KAMAZ also survived.
      5. Manager
        Manager April 19 2013 14: 54
        -1
        Quote: itr
        Comedian))))

        I agree. In fact, the quality of kraz going to the domestic market (like everything else, probably) leaves much to be desired. Although the export krazy is completely different. It's very interesting in general. If, for example, Tanks and Airplanes for export are, let's say, "empty", then Automotive equipment is the opposite.
      6. виктор1972
        виктор1972 April 19 2013 19: 45
        +2
        I also live in the north. I don’t see KRAZ for a long time, but the drivers speak with enthusiasm about Soviet cars. And if you have wooden cabins and earflaps with astronauts, then there are no questions. And Volvo, we have even less than KRAZov. Arkhan. reg.
    2. Skavron
      Skavron April 19 2013 12: 52
      +4
      I look Yu-tub ... some Urals in the north and Kamaz
      and Krazy come across the truth, but less often
    3. svp67
      svp67 April 19 2013 12: 58
      +5
      Quote: 120352
      . You look, and something will fall into Russia.

      Of course. The engine is on it YaMZ, that is, Yaroslavl ...
    4. avt
      avt April 19 2013 14: 12
      +4
      Quote: 120352
      KrAZ - a great car! Only the coquetry of Russia almost put him on the brink of bankruptcy. The whole Russian North is on them, KraZakh, and holds on.

      C'mon, those days have already sunk into oblivion. Just as the exotic remained. Well stuck Thais - well done, but about the second wind request something strongly doubt it. On the volumes of MAZ and KAMAZ is unlikely to pull.
      1. виктор1972
        виктор1972 April 19 2013 19: 59
        +1
        And the car is excellent, no worse.
    5. krasin
      krasin April 19 2013 15: 11
      -2
      The north in the Urals, Krazov kept on! They will not let them into cars ??? Well, probably first they will travel and then all the same pu laughing stat!
  4. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 12: 48
    +8
    Kraz plant output declined from 2008 from 5000 units. to 899 in 2012, due to the introduction of a recycling tax in 2013, the output fell by another two.
    Kamaz in the 2012 year exported about 6000 trucks, the total number of 2012 admitted more than 50 thousand units. Kraz with his crumbs, nervously smoking aside
    1. zanoza
      zanoza April 19 2013 16: 36
      +3
      Quote: seller trucks
      Kamaz in the 2012 year exported about 6000 trucks, the total number of 2012 admitted more than 50 thousand units. Kraz with his crumbs, nervously smoking aside


      The figures given by you are "mesmerizing".
      Add for comparison(... notice, I didn’t suggest this ...), MAN auto plants, depending on the year, - up to xnumx thousand trucks and chassis, and another 6-8 thousand buses. In this comparison, and KamAZ will "nervously smoke on the sidelines" ... It is necessary to compare more accurately. request
      1. evil hamster
        evil hamster April 19 2013 17: 59
        +1
        And what? 50 thousand is normal for a large plant (one plant) 100 thousand is normal for several plants of the world leader in the industry. 1 thousand is not normal - this is not a sports supercar excuse me to release them piece by piece. And the point here is not even in KRAZ as such, but in the fact that the sale of trucks is presented as something unreal epic by separate news.
        1. zanoza
          zanoza April 19 2013 18: 46
          +2
          Quote: evil hamster
          And what?


          MAN, in your opinion, got a dozen out of boredom assembly factories in different countries (including Russia) and continents. DEMAND! QUALITY! And the promotion of products, you do not need to persuade anyone, they leave with a whistle.
          KrAZ was not a leader in the production of automobiles in the USSR either, but it occupied its own niche. Dump trucks plowed at all large construction sites and quarries, "served" in the army and continues to serve, including Russia (S-300 air defense missile system - as an example), etc. Production has fallen, and our auto industry is not "flourishing", with the possible exception of KAMAZ, and there are problems even there, right up to the suspension of production.
          The KrAZ-ts are "floundering", improving, looking for sales - well done!
          Because people have work and hope for the future.
          1. evil hamster
            evil hamster April 19 2013 19: 32
            +3
            I honestly don’t understand what causes such violent emotions in you? Well, he occupied poverty, well, he worked, well, there is still something where and what! What does all this have to do with it? People are working well, I don’t mind, I just don’t understand what the news is? On the Zil, which is also a little more than completely dead, they are also working and trying something, even like in 2011 they mastered 1000 trucks, but I don't see anything about Zil news. About KAMAZ, too, not particularly, only on the topic "typhoon" and so on - military products, but why did he ship it to whom and how much nobody is interested in. And then bam a sensation, he sold a large batch - by the way, how much did they sell? does this definitely deserve a separate news? And God forbid, I'm not gloating, just 50 thousand Kamaz compared to 100 thousand MAN is 2 times less, 1000 Kraz compared to 50 thousand Kamaz - this is ... what did you bring this comparison to? to emphasize in what crisis the once mighty plant? Unclear.
            1. zanoza
              zanoza April 19 2013 23: 36
              0
              There is no sensation in the article, of course, no doubt. Narrowly, glad that KrAZ, still, while putting on cars Yaroslavl enginesMEAN there is cooperation, there is work for the Russian plant. Look wider, I want stability in Ukraine, both political and economic. I don’t want us to continue to try to separate, quarrel, explaining to the people that the economic turmoil of Ukraine is the machinations and intrigues of Moscow. Well and so on .... IMHO
              You began to compareI just noticed that it not comparablebecause always somewhere and something more, and the possibilities are different.
            2. zanoza
              zanoza April 19 2013 23: 53
              0
              Quote: evil hamster
              I honestly did not understand what causes you such violent emotions?


              There is no sensation in the article, of course, no doubt. Narrowly, glad that KrAZ, still, while putting on cars Yaroslavl enginesMEAN there is cooperation, there is work for the Russian plant. Look wider, I want stability in Ukraine, both political and economic. I don’t want us to continue to try to separate, quarrel, explaining to the people that the economic turmoil of Ukraine is the machinations and intrigues of Moscow. Well and so on .... IMHO
              You began to compareI just noticed that it not comparablebecause always somewhere and something more, and the possibilities are different.
              What about emotions? It pleases me, you are angry that I am glad that there is nothing to be done. This is MY opinion on this issue.
          2. drrook
            drrook April 19 2013 22: 01
            +3
            MAN is a good car: 3 years in the North, and there is no MANa. But KrAZ is cooler: 3 years in the North, and there is no driver.
    2. morpex
      morpex April 20 2013 00: 09
      -1
      Quote: seller trucks
      Kraz with his crumbs, nervously smoking aside

      but he smokes!
  5. leon-iv
    leon-iv April 19 2013 13: 08
    +2
    Most likely the Thais bought technology. As with Bastion and BTR
    1. itr
      itr April 19 2013 13: 12
      +3
      Kraza technology))))
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 19 2013 13: 17
        +2
        yes no Thais are actively building their military-industrial complex and Ukrainians are selling them military technology + technology.
    2. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 15: 08
      0
      Quote: leon-iv
      ITs bought and technology. As with Bastion and BTR

      Why taitsam technology? It’s easier for them to buy than to deploy their own production.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 19 2013 15: 36
        +4
        therefore suddenly around 50 defense industry enterprises have already been created
    3. morpex
      morpex April 20 2013 00: 15
      -2
      Quote: leon-iv
      Most likely the Thais bought technology. As with Bastion and BTR

      You think? Thais will produce Krazy, armored personnel carriers and tanks? Think deeply and broadly of a colleague!
  6. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 13: 14
    +4
    Quote: 120352
    Glad for Kremenchug. For him, this is a second wind.


    excuse me, but the Kraz plant is almost a "corpse" 200-300 units will not save it, the main buyer was and remains Russia, and these piece orders "foam spray" are not for those markets, they are fighting
    1. виктор1972
      виктор1972 April 19 2013 20: 13
      0
      Because only Russia has the capabilities, technology. MRIA flies to components from Russia. Tomorrow Russia will be able, and Ukraine will do what they say.
  7. STIMUS94
    STIMUS94 April 19 2013 13: 38
    +1
    well done! =)
  8. sashka
    sashka April 19 2013 13: 43
    +1
    Well done of course. But here's how to understand AutoKraz? Verbatim. Or AvtoVAZ? )))
  9. Vtel
    Vtel April 19 2013 14: 07
    0
    According to customer requirements, a winch with a hydraulic drive of the world's leading manufacturer - Sepson (Sweden) will be installed on the vehicles.
    The victory in the tender was preceded by lengthy and complex comparative tests of vehicles in which KrAZ participated along with other manufacturers of similar vehicles.

    What other manufacturers are not clear, may be Vietnamese. Most likely they probably liked the Swedish winch.
  10. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 14: 20
    +1
    Quote: Vtel
    What other manufacturers are not clear, may be Vietnamese.


    any "victory" of the Ukrainians is extolled to a world sensation, and the tanks "Oplot" are the best in the world, however, they are considered as such only in Ukraine, then the armored personnel carrier with defective guns, I look forward to the show with Kraz's participation, will be as usual, I have no doubt
    1. morpex
      morpex April 20 2013 00: 19
      -1
      Quote: seller trucks
      any "victory" of the Ukrainians is extolled to a world sensation, and the tanks "Oplot" are the best in the world, however, they are considered as such only in Ukraine, then the armored personnel carrier with defective guns, I look forward to the show with Kraz's participation, will be as usual, I have no doubt

      And I’ll erase any breakthrough in Ukraine like a bone in my throat. And from any puncture you will bliss.
  11. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 14: 40
    +6
    Quote: 120352
    KrAZ - a great car! Only the coquetry of Russia almost put him on the brink of bankruptcy. The whole Russian North is on them, KraZakh, and holds on. Glad for Kremenchug. For him, this is a second wind. You look, and something will fall into Russia.

    Of course, excellent, there were not bad designers in Yaroslavl, since their idea still lives. And about the Russian North in KrAZ, in the last 10-15 years I saw only three. One in Vanino, one in Magadan (without an engine), well, in one of the military units near Komsomolsk-on-Amur is true without bridges. In the forest areas, mainly the Urals or KamAZ (you can turn around) Ural-Iveco, MAZ, Isuzu. In quarries, BAMTunelstroy, Dalvostokstroy, etc., etc., etc. .The same picture, though recently cars of the South Korean and Chinese production began to appear more, although MAZ and URAL-KamAZ make up not less than 50% of the fleet. KrAZ has been found in the Far East in recent years as often as Ferrari .And what can KrAZ get to Russia? ...
  12. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 14: 51
    +4
    Quote: itr
    Judging by the minuses in my address, people really think that Kraz is a good car. I am surprised !

    It’s just amazing when compared to the Russian ZiS-5v, Kraz’s cabin is upholstered and there is a stove, and it is produced in / in Ukraine ... And you are surprised ...
  13. Akim
    Akim April 19 2013 15: 35
    +4
    In general, the Royal Thai Army already has KrAZ trucks. They were supplied as "technical vehicles" for the BTR-3E1. If they were bad, KrAZ would not win the tender
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 April 19 2013 21: 23
      +1
      I also saw new ones in rodents.
  14. pinecone
    pinecone April 19 2013 15: 35
    0
    Ukraine desperately needs foreign currency, so most likely the tender was won due to the low price.
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 15: 38
      +2
      Quote: pinecone
      tender was won due to low prices

      KrAZ 6322 in the civilian version costs from 80 thousand bucks.
  15. Alexey M
    Alexey M April 19 2013 15: 37
    0
    Let’s sell them Lada. Let them laugh.
  16. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK April 19 2013 15: 43
    +5
    Yes. It was in the North KrAZ. And ZIL-157 too. It (ZIL-157 even released a limited batch in the late 70s for the north with a warmed cabin.) But this is probably yesterday. It is worth recalling the stages of the formation of a KAMAZ or Ural car. In the Urals, for example, under the usual RMM they put Mazovsky engine (mount fit) Then the Urals went with diesels, Cars were constantly being finalized. But KRAZ was previously not very common. In the North. I answer.
  17. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 15: 51
    +2
    Quote: Akim
    KrAZ 6322 in the civilian version costs from 80 thousand bucks.


    and in your opinion MAN or Volvo will be cheaper?
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 16: 05
      +2
      Quote: seller trucks
      and in your opinion MAN or Volvo will be cheaper

      Of course not. But MAZs, KAMAZs, Polish STAR at the same price. So it is not cheaper than the rest.
  18. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 16: 23
    0
    Quote: Akim
    Of course not. But MAZs, KAMAZs, Polish STAR at the same price. So it is not cheaper than the rest.


    firstly, we don’t know the participants, and secondly, the corruption component is not excluded, and the price of love is by no means the least.
  19. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 16: 37
    0
    As for diesel Urals, along the BAM branch, and along the Sovgavan still (the last time was on 6.10.12 in that area) rotational shifts run on the basis of the Urals-375, as well as MTOShki. Edenitsa is true but true. But here are high-tech, new KrAZ trucks Alas. By the way, how does the KrAZ-Dying KrAZ Automobile Organization decrypt?
    A couple of posts above I looked at the photo of KrAZ, well, and ... What's so, really cool?
  20. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 16: 56
    +4
    Quote: Alexey M

    Let’s sell them Lada. Let them laugh.

    For porzhu.Five years ago, a friend sold Padzherik, 98 years old, took NIVU 85th. Many whinnied.Now, of those who neigh, 6 have NIVA, 2 UAZs, for hunting and fishing, even of the smarter, 1 has ML-TB , 2 ZIL-157, 2 ZIL-131, 3 Gaz-66. This is for trips to TAIGU. Moreover, each of them has a Japanese woman for trips to the city, well, or a "Korean". Everyone haunts the domestic auto industry, and here in TAIGA, only on ours. And the dispute which is better than NIVA or UAZ does not arise, but when one comrade on a land-rover-short-haul tried to skip after NIVA, the squirrel burst with laughter ... Don't forget about the ecology! photo or video to throw off !!!!!!
    1. ultra
      ultra April 19 2013 17: 27
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65
      1 has ML-TB, 2 ZIL-157, 2 ZIL-131, 3 Gas-66.

      And plus, everyone has their own gas station! bully
    2. Fox
      Fox April 19 2013 17: 33
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65
      For porzhu

      a peasant from the north every year calls into one service station (in Togliatti) flips through babos and asks "to see everything, and change what needs to be done." The guys do it. every day, the work is traveling, and my NIVA (2329) has never failed in 6 years, unlike foreign cars. that's the whole story. By the way, I've heard the same from the Finns.
  21. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 17: 03
    +2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVptjzPGzo
  22. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 17: 10
    -3
    Quote: Akim
    KrAZ 6322 in the civilian version costs from 80 thousand bucks.

    It's just the price of wood (cabin frame) has risen in price, and given that for Thailand it is made from trees delivered from the upper Amazon ...
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 17: 35
      +3
      Quote: Fitter65
      It's just the price of wood (cabin frame) has risen in price, and given that for Thailand it is made from trees delivered from the upper Amazon ...

      To be honest, I'm fed up with this irony. "They say we are so golden, and you neighbors in G ... are swimming." So for such similar attacks, I will also soon begin to negatively relate to modern Russia. I am talking about technology and economics, not politics. And you seem to be itching in one place.
      http://auto.ria.ua/newauto/%D0%90%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%B
      B%D1%8C/%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%90%D0%97/6322/25002/?stateId=0
  23. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 17: 30
    0
    Quote: ultra
    And plus, everyone has their own gas station!

    Almost yes, before you take it, they know where it will be fed from. It’s just that people don’t ride in the TaIGA like in the metro. Every walk should pay off. Therefore, you should go bad if you go empty ...
  24. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 17: 42
    0
    Quote: Akim
    To be honest, I'm fed up with this irony. "They say we are so golden, and you neighbors in G ... are swimming." So for such similar attacks, I will also soon begin to negatively relate to modern Russia. I am talking about technology and economics, not politics. And you seem to be itching in one place.

    So I'm talking about technology, where do you see politics? Today I saw ZAZ ofigel on the road. There was no KrAZ truth. All the same, the Cossacks are more enduring Kremenchugtsev.
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 17: 47
      +1
      Which tree? Cabins have long been metal or fiberglass at KrAZ trucks. And air conditioning to boot.
      1. Akim
        Akim April 21 2013 07: 34
        +2
        I found a small picture here. Of course, Russia is the main buyer of these cars, but not the only one. KrAZ vehicles are exported to 14 countries. And Ukraine itself began to buy a lot of them through leasing programs.
  25. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 17: 49
    +1
    Quote: Akim
    I am talking about technology and economics, not politics.


    excuse me, of course, but you can talk with a Ukrainian today, only about politics, because there is practically no automobile industry in Ukraine. those. in general, no, proofs are needed? with the economy in Ukraine, things are even worse, demographic situation, migration ... I answer for every word. do you need it?
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 17: 53
      +2
      Quote: seller trucks
      but you can talk with a Ukrainian

      I am not a Ukrainian, but a citizen of Ukraine. Therefore, there is no need to breed xenophobia.
    2. Skavron
      Skavron April 19 2013 20: 28
      0
      Quote: seller trucks
      I answer for every word. do you need it?

      Let's not "tra la la" look around
      I’m not inventing demotivators in a harmony, but your countrymen
      Quote: seller trucks
      there is practically no automobile industry in Ukraine.

      Yeah ... only the gazelles learned to refine and the option on which you can carry people, not coffins
      Lanos, sens, LAZ, KRAZ, Bogdan ...
  26. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 19 2013 18: 02
    +2
    Quote: Akim
    Which tree? Cabins have long been metal or fiberglass at KrAZ trucks. And air conditioning in addition

    Come on, you’re so offended. We, ordinary Russians, are not indifferent to what packaging OUR Yaroslavl diesels sell. By the way, MAZs are all better ...
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 18: 11
      +4
      Quote: Fitter65
      By the way MAZs are all better ..

      Who knows ... Only MAZs this winter I did not see from rescuers. But the military KrAZ was full
      1. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 April 19 2013 21: 22
        +3
        It would be strange for the Ukrainian military to see Belarusian mazs. It is only in Russia that everyone uses it, without national divisions.
  27. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 19 2013 18: 03
    +6
    This is the kind of cooperation that should be: real, without politics. Ukrainian cars, Russian engines, that's all for a short time. Well, the fact that Thailand buys for 10 thousand kilometers is so well known why: "Where one crest passed, there is nothing for two Jews to do." :-)
  28. Algor73
    Algor73 April 19 2013 18: 05
    +5
    I don’t understand why you are laughing, laughing? KrAZ back in Soviet times was focused on rugged terrain for the army. The product was specific. When Ukraine disconnected, sales fell - Russian plants and so can not reach full capacity, and even more so they do not need Ukrainian KrAZ trucks. But if you take in percentage terms how many KrAZs are exported, then it is not so bad. It is bad that Ukraine does not have laws that promote the development of its auto industry.
    1. albatross
      albatross April 19 2013 23: 45
      +3
      Algor73 UA Today, 18:05
      I don’t understand why you are laughing, laughing?

      Naturally, the car has nothing to do with it! Yes, and there was no time to develop. The collapse of the enterprise, not because KRAZ is so bad, but because all the economic ties of the USSR simply barked and that’s all. Moreover, Ukrainian politicians are rolling a barrel to Russia, oligophrenics, neither give nor take. Although there is information that they are not so stupid: they have their own oligarchs, they have their own interest from this.
  29. seller trucks
    seller trucks April 19 2013 18: 13
    0
    Quote: Akim
    I am talking about technology and economics, not politics.


    excuse me, of course, but you can talk with a Ukrainian today, only about politics, because there is practically no automobile industry in Ukraine. those. in general, no, proofs are needed? with the economy in Ukraine, things are even worse, demographic situation, migration ... I answer for every word. do you need it?
    Quote: Akim
    I am not a Ukrainian, but a citizen of Ukraine. Therefore, there is no need to breed xenophobia.


    I am the same, even a passport
  30. APASUS
    APASUS April 19 2013 18: 59
    0
    I wonder what was the decisive factor in the purchase of Crazov?
    China, Korea nearby or still it is more a geopolitical choice ......
    1. Akim
      Akim April 19 2013 19: 04
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      China, Korea nearby or still it is more a geopolitical choice .....

      You need to find a photo where KrAZ in Beijing at the parade?
      1. Akim
        Akim April 19 2013 19: 23
        +1
        True, she is 10 years old.
        1. Alex Nick
          Alex Nick April 19 2013 20: 20
          0
          Wash it zil-131
          1. Akim
            Akim April 19 2013 20: 25
            0
            This is 255 KrAZ.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS April 19 2013 20: 20
        +1
        Quote: Akim
        You need to find a photo where KrAZ in Beijing at the parade?

        I did not mention the geopolitical choice for nothing !!
        Ukraine is far away and it has no interests in this region ...... and China and Korea are competitors in many ways !!!
  31. medwed1976
    medwed1976 April 19 2013 20: 00
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    Quote: 120352
    The whole Russian North is on them, KraZakh, and holds on.

    Speaking of KrAZ and the Russian North:
  32. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 April 19 2013 21: 28
    +1
    Quote: Fitter65
    In the forest plots, mainly the Urals

    I agree with this, but the "Tatar" in the plot is bad. Well, kraz is good, though it is not possible to drive after it. It leaves behind two parallel trenches.
  33. mosgeo1
    mosgeo1 April 20 2013 02: 20
    0
    Guys, everything is very convincing, but it is worth remembering that the Japanese bought them with new ones. For recycling!
  34. Tourist
    Tourist April 20 2013 06: 48
    0
    Surprisingly, people who do not understand the topic write nonsense. Thailand simply ordered one of the cheapest modifications: the YaMZ-238 engine from the 60s (albeit brought to Euro 3), the ZF clutch (Germany), the Chinese gearbox (under Eaton license) and the cabin, manufactured from the middle of the 80s -kh (wooden was discontinued from EMNIP in 93). At the request of the customer, Kraz can be equipped with engines: YaMZ-6511 (licensed Renault), YaMZ-560, Volvo, Cummins, cabless cabs: MAN-F2000, Renault Xeraks or Chinese, all depends on the desire and financial capabilities of the client. I myself have worked at KrAZ for more than 8 years and I can say that the car is reliable and strong, more reliable than KamAZ, diesel fuel and air in the pneumatic system at -40 never froze.
    Who cares, go to the factory website: www.autokraz.com.ua [media = http: //www.autokraz.com.ua/pdf/tr-b12.2.pdf]
  35. Vital 33
    Vital 33 April 20 2013 11: 06
    +2
    Damn, I read and am amazed, there are so many evil, petty, envious people ... The neighbor's luck causes such a wave of anger, hatred and stupid ridicule ... I am glad that there are at least some people who just calmly perceive this, and only people express this approval, so generally admirable (they were not afraid to praise the Ukrainian ...))) And of course "witty" comments about wooden cabins, about fat, etc. ... But at least you are not too lazy, go to the company's website and read ... but better not be dishonored by exposing your ignorance to people. And have the courage to admit - TOAD PRESSES !!!
  36. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 20 2013 11: 15
    +2
    Quote: Tourist
    Nykoda did not freeze diesel fuel and air in the pneumatic system at -40.

    So if you pour a winter solarium into the cold and drain the condensate from the system in a timely manner, nothing will freeze. If you carry out the maintenance of your Zhiguli in a timely manner, they will last an order of magnitude longer than the neighbor's CARONA. So to say that KrAZ was an order of magnitude better than KamAZ, about URAL I am silent, I can say one thing, good equipment in the hands of "The title of Dostoevsky's book" will always be a heap of metal. For 25 years of life and service in the Far East, I have seen those killed in 2-3 months, "not killed Japanese". And KamAZ trucks produced in 1980 and today they are more alive than all the living. And the ZIL-157 of which, from the puddle where the PRADO drove, was pulled out with a skidder, and the ZIL-131, which was pulled from the swamp of the GTL. Therefore, no matter how good the car is, what is more important is what gasket it has, which is located between the steering wheel and the seat. And in the current conditions KrAZ, no matter how good it was in the 80s, is so good for the 80s, but now it's not like another century, it's already a millennium.
  37. Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 20 2013 11: 17
    0
    Quote: Tourist
    Nykoda did not freeze diesel fuel and air in the pneumatic system at -40.

    So if you pour a winter solarium into the cold and drain the condensate from the system in a timely manner, nothing will freeze. If you carry out the maintenance of your Zhiguli in a timely manner, they will last an order of magnitude longer than the neighbor's CARONA. So to say that KrAZ was an order of magnitude better than KamAZ, about URAL I am silent, I can say one thing, good equipment in the hands of "The title of Dostoevsky's book" will always be a heap of metal. For 25 years of life and service in the Far East, I have seen those killed in 2-3 months, "not killed Japanese". And KamAZ trucks produced in 1980 and today they are more alive than all the living. And the ZIL-157 of which, from the puddle where the PRADO drove, was pulled out with a skidder, and the ZIL-131, which was pulled from the swamp of the GTL. Therefore, no matter how good the car is, what is more important is what gasket it has, which is located between the steering wheel and the seat. And in the current conditions KrAZ, no matter how good it was in the 80s, is so good for the 80s, but now it's not like another century, it's already a millennium.