US military seeks to obtain fully functional Shahed-136s for copying

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US military seeks to obtain fully functional Shahed-136s for copying
UAV Shahed 136 at the IRGC equipment exhibition in 2023


The US government has issued a request for information describing a need for 136:1 scale reverse-engineered copies of the Iranian Shahed-1 attack drone, or a variant of the Shahed-136 drone also used by the Russian military, Russian licensed copies to develop counter-UAV tactics and technologies, to serve as drone- targets, and also as an attack drone.



Stars and Stripes reported on the Request for Information (RFI) on August 20, 2025, noting that the commercially available Shahed family of UAVs is used in large numbers by the Russian military in the SVO in Ukraine, sometimes conducting up to 140 drone strikes against military targets per day. The Shahed-136 is a piston-engined, delta-wing UAV weighing approximately 200 kg (50 lb) with a payload of XNUMX kg (XNUMX lb). It is typically used as a simple attack UAV. There is speculation among some US experts about the existence of a variant of the drone with a loitering function, but this supposed functionality was not included in the RFI requirements.

The Russian licensed version is known as the Geranium-2. The Shahed-136 is typically launched from a ground-based fixed launcher or from launchers mounted on light vehicles, sometimes using a solid-fuel rocket rocket booster, which provides a near-vertical liftoff. This allows a single vehicle to carry several Shahed-136s at a time and launch them one after another to overwhelm and disorient enemy air defenses.

Submissions from manufacturers must be a “1:1 replica,” which is a complete replica of the shape, design, and function of the Shahed-136. This means that the specifications must provide a minimum range of over 2500 km, a speed of up to 185 km/h, a body length of 3,5 meters, and a wingspan of 2,5 meters. The replicas must also be equipped with propellers of the same size and shape as the original drone, in short, it must be a complete replica of the original Shahed-136. The only difference allowed is the launch method, the American replicas will be launched by a pneumatic catapult, and the replica drone must be able to perform autonomous flight from takeoff to landing.

A sample of the Shahed-136 will not be provided to industry to justify proposals, so interested parties should be able to develop their own proposals. The initial plan is to purchase 16 UAVs, with an option to order 20 more at a later date.

In addition to the fact that the Americans are going to include these drones in their arsenal, they will also be used as substitutes for the real Shahed-136 as target drones during exercises and tests. This is necessary so that American military practices and technologies can “adapt to new threats” and effectively counter these drones in real combat conditions.

Companies are encouraged to submit both greenfield projects and projects already in development. This could lead to dual-use projects, with one version being produced for training purposes as a target drone and another for use as an attack drone. weapons. The benefits of disposable strike UAVs have not escaped the attention of Western militaries, although many have been relatively slow to adopt such weapons. Manufacturers such as MBDA are now incorporating advanced concepts of this type into their product lines.

The main contender is the MQM-172 drone


The MQM-172 Arrowhead drone from Griffon Aerospace will almost certainly be the contender in this RFI and any future tenders. As mentioned, the Arrowhead is intended to be used as a target drone, as its primary role, but also as a strike weapon. Many experts have noted the platform’s similarities to the Iranian Shahed-136 drone, sometimes even calling it an unlicensed copy. First unveiled earlier this month, the Arrowhead is said to be an “improvement” on the Shahed-136 from which it was “inspired” (blatantly copied).

These images show unlicensed copies of the Iranian Shahed-136 attack drone, manufactured by Griffon Aerospace in the United States under the designation MQM-172 Arrowhead. They are used both as attack drones and as targets.

— Babak Taghvaee – The Crisis Watch (@BabakTaghvaee1) August 20, 2025.

Like the Shahid, Griffon says its drone can be launched from either a pneumatic catapult or a rocket booster. The stated payload, which could include a high-explosive warhead, electronic warfare, or intelligence, electro-optical, and reconnaissance equipment, is 100 pounds (about 45 kilograms).

Griffon has a wealth of experience in the drone space, having delivered over 12 drone systems as of 000. The company primarily focuses on small drones, which, while desirable for their use cases, have received little attention (investment) compared to the larger aircraft that are the backbone of industry giants like GA-ASI.

LUCAS


Before the Arrowhead, there was the Low Cost Unmanned Combat Strike System (LUCAS) developed by Spektreworks. Internally, the drone was designated the FLM 136, a clear nod to the design that inspired it. LUCAS was originally designed to be used as a threat simulator (target drone), but its current version falls short of some of the Shahed-136’s capabilities, which may make it ineligible for this RFI and bid. The small Arizona company will likely need to roll out an upgraded version to remain competitive.

Here are the specs of the FLM 136, which I believe the LUCAS drone is based on. The range is about 640 km, the payload is 18 kg, the engine displacement is about half that of the Shahed 136.

— Alex Hollings (@AlexHollings52) July 17, 2025.

Notably, while both of these drones trace their lineage back to the Shahed-136, the Shahed-136 itself borrows heavily from other sources. The Iranian drone is believed to be heavily inspired by the Dornier Die Drohne (DAR) UAV, which was developed in the 1980s as part of a plan to suppress the Soviet DefenseAlthough the DAR never entered production, its design is believed to have been used by Israel Aerospace Industries as the basis for its IAI Harpy drone.


Israeli drone "Harpy" IAI.

Iran would have had plenty of opportunities through its proxies across the Middle East to acquire faulty Harpy drones, or even simply copy the designs from available images/videos and repurpose them into its own Shahed variants. However, as developments have evolved over the years, even closely related platforms can become very different over time, requiring further reverse engineering of already repurposed designs.
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  1. +9
    7 September 2025 04: 14
    As a rule, I read Sergey’s publications with great interest, but in this case I don’t agree with him on everything.
    In addition to the fact that the Americans are going to include these drones in their arsenal, they will also be used as substitutes for the real Shahed-136 as target drones during exercises and tests.

    Sergey, please share the source of information from where you got this, and is it the same wording?
    Iran would have plenty of opportunities through its proxies across the Middle East to acquire faulty Harpy drones or even simply copy the design from available images/videos and repurpose them into its own Shahed variants.

    The history of the Shahed-136 is well known. Around 1994, Israel sold a batch of Harpies and possibly technical documentation for them to China, which caused a scandal with the United States. The Chinese kamikaze drone was designated JWS01. It is generally similar to the product of Israel Aerospace Industries, but has a number of differences. The Chinese loitering munition, designed to destroy air defense systems, has two types of replaceable seekers operating in different frequency ranges, which significantly expands the range of potential targets. After launch, the JWS01 UAV is completely autonomous and flies according to a pre-programmed program. A mobile launcher on the chassis of a Beiben North Benz all-terrain truck carries six JWS01. The unit includes three self-propelled launchers, a radio intelligence station and a mobile command post. The PRC also launched a modernized version of the kamikaze drone, designated ASN-301. In the 21st century, China transferred documentation for the ASN-301 attack UAV to Iran, where the HESA Shahed 136 was created based on Chinese developments.
    1. +9
      7 September 2025 07: 24
      Quote: Bongo
      The story of the Shahed-136 is well known.
      Yes, this drone does not have a special, legendary history - it is an ordinary tailless/flying wing with winglets, the diagram and calculations of which can be found in any technical library of any aviation university. But the genius (precisely genius!) of this drone lies in the carefully thought-out layout of its modules.

      This includes the rear location of the engine outside the hull, which shades it from the front and, partially, from the side projections, making it cold, thereby helping to reduce the IR trace and creating a serious problem for MANPADS. YouTube There are many videos posted where MANPADS are launched and the missiles always lose their target, with the exception of catch-up courses, where the missile head can easily clings for the target. And the drone's design itself - a tailless, delta-winged aircraft - is very easily optimized to reduce the effective scattering area and radar signature, while allowing for much lower drag and improved fuel efficiency...

      The navigation of such a drone consists of the most ordinary inertial autopilot unit and a system specially tailored for this purpose. GPS/GLONASS. But what is most interesting in the control and navigation system of the drone is the systems of their correction by air both through other drones and through the heads of the SN, which somehow exchange information with each other. Well, something like a computer local network. But these are still just rumors...

      And to sum it up, all these terribly primitive and long-known technical solutions, but gathered together, indicate that engineers thought carefully about this drone. I just don’t know which engineers - Israeli, Chinese or Iranian. I am sure that our developers, taking into account the practice of the SVO, also contributed to the optimization of this drone... P.S. In my opinion (from open sources), today this is the most successful UAV design...
      1. 0
        8 September 2025 15: 22
        I am sure that our developers, taking into account the practice of the SVO, also contributed to the optimization of this drone...

        I heard that our Gerani-2s and Iranian Shahids don’t have much in common anymore.
        The original Shahids were quite mediocre, because from the Harpy they had gone through a long path of simplification and cheapening.
        Our people, on the contrary, were not satisfied with this and began to change all the components one after another.
        So if the Iranian Shahid occasionally misses or "gets lost" locally, then Geranium-2 still needs to be knocked off course or suppressed.
        And it is now even more noticeable that unmanned technologies have reached their peak of development.
        It is already noticeable that drones are divided into design types depending on the type of task.
        The lightest and loitering ones in the form of copters, those that only need to quickly hit a target - in the form of a winged ATGM, such as the Lancet, Spike, Switchblade, multi-purpose long-range UAVs - aircraft type, usually of a twin-boom design, attack UAVs for solving operational-tactical and even strategic tasks - a flying wing.
        Optimal sets of technical solutions for drones of various classes and tasks have already been found, now it’s just a matter of specific implementation.
    2. +1
      8 September 2025 07: 30
      But this story has nothing to do with reality. There is no evidence of ASN-301 deliveries to Iran. Moreover, Iran does not have any variations of such drones with anti-radar homing heads. The Iranians initially followed a different concept: if the above-mentioned Israeli and Chinese drones were niche anti-radar solutions, then in Iran, somewhere in the late 2000s-early 2010s, they decided to create a cheaper and more mass-produced analogue of cruise missiles for strikes at the rear of potential adversaries in the region.
      As a result, the Shahed-2010 appeared in the mid-131s, but its warhead was not powerful enough and its range did not allow it to cover Israel and all potential targets in Saudi Arabia. Therefore, by the end of the 2010s, the larger and heavier Shahed-136 was created.
      And they have nothing to do with HESA; the development and production of these drones in Iran is carried out by the Shahed Aviation Industries company, which is directly controlled by the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
      1. +1
        8 September 2025 15: 26
        But this story has no connection with reality. There is no evidence of ASN-301 deliveries to Iran.

        Supplies are not required, documentation is sufficient.
        And then the Iranians themselves will figure out what parts to buy and what kind of drone to design.
        Shahid is not necessarily a direct copy, it is precisely a borrowing of experience.
        Something like what happened with the T-34 and the Panther. The Panther is only slightly similar to the 34, but it was created with the 34 in mind.
        Moreover, Iran does not have any variations of similar drones with anti-radar homing heads.

        Maybe because it's expensive?
        Does Iran even have the capacity to produce radar equipment of the appropriate size?
    3. +1
      8 September 2025 15: 10
      A mobile launcher on a Beiben North Benz all-terrain truck chassis carries six JWS01s

      By the way, does the Russian Armed Forces launch Gerani from similar chassis or only individual launches from a catapult/a couple of catapults in an open body?
      Or do we have something like this?
      I just haven't come across any photos/videos with such launchers.
  2. +1
    7 September 2025 07: 16
    Well, and they claimed that we are the only ones doing reverse engineering...

    In fact, no one disdains this, except Burkina Faso. They certainly don't need it - they have no industry, no science either. Everything is bought.
    1. +1
      8 September 2025 15: 28
      Well, and they claimed that we are the only ones doing reverse engineering...

      Who made the statement?)
      The Chinese military is armed with technological espionage and licensed production.
      In principle, I don’t even remember any exclusively original Chinese weapons.
      1. +4
        8 September 2025 17: 46
        Why only the Chinese army? Recently, our Chinese partners offered us to buy copies of Western spectrometers, diffractometers, etc. from them. They even showed a video (without embarrassment) of how they disassemble and copy the originals... And they have already set up production. They just need it - they take it and do it, and they don't give a damn who or what will think about it. Don't they? They are not afraid of these claims anymore. They haven't been afraid for a long time.

        zy is truly Chinese, truly Indian and truly Polish weaponry - only it works clumsily... and this is known.
  3. +8
    7 September 2025 08: 48
    Quote: Luminman
    Quote: Bongo
    The story of the Shahed-136 is well known.
    Yes, this drone does not have a special, legendary history - it is an ordinary tailless/flying wing with winglets, the diagram and calculations of which can be found in any technical library of any aviation university. But the genius (precisely genius!) of this drone lies in the carefully thought-out layout of its modules.

    This includes the rear location of the engine outside the hull, which shades it from the front and, partially, from the side projections, making it cold, thereby helping to reduce the IR trace and creating a serious problem for MANPADS. YouTube There are many videos posted where MANPADS are launched and the missiles always lose their target, with the exception of catch-up courses, where the missile head can easily clings for the target. And the drone's design itself - a tailless, delta-winged aircraft - is very easily optimized to reduce the effective scattering area and radar signature, while allowing for much lower drag and improved fuel efficiency...

    The navigation of such a drone consists of the most ordinary inertial autopilot unit and a system specially tailored for this purpose. GPS/GLONASS. But what is most interesting in the control and navigation system of the drone is the systems of their correction by air both through other drones and through the heads of the SN, which somehow exchange information with each other. Well, something like a computer local network. But these are still just rumors...

    And to sum it up, all these terribly primitive and long-known technical solutions, but gathered together, indicate that engineers thought carefully about this drone. I just don’t know which engineers - Israeli, Chinese or Iranian. I am sure that our developers, taking into account the practice of the SVO, also contributed to the optimization of this drone... P.S. In my opinion (from open sources), today this is the most successful UAV design...


    Thank you for your comment, the content of which rivals the publication itself!
  4. +1
    7 September 2025 09: 37
    US military seeks to obtain fully functional Shahed-136s for copying

    The United States has fallen into insignificance, smile I won't repeat Bongo's (Sergey) comment.
  5. +2
    7 September 2025 10: 13
    Quote: parusnik
    US military seeks to obtain fully functional Shahed-136s for copying

    The United States has fallen into insignificance, smile I won't repeat Bongo's (Sergey) comment.

    If you stick to what you wrote, you are worse than the one who wrote it. The Yankees can easily demand documentation from Israel.
    1. +2
      7 September 2025 13: 14
      And what will this give? Today's "shaheds" may differ greatly from the Israeli prototype of 30 years ago.
  6. +3
    7 September 2025 10: 23
    Holy shit, what's there to copy? What technologies are there that are not available in the US? laughing Yes
    1. D16
      +3
      7 September 2025 21: 32
      Doesn't it bother you that they copied the RPG-7? What kind of technology is there? lol
      1. +3
        8 September 2025 02: 24
        They copied it to arm their proxies and PMCs, which buy cheap ammunition in Eastern Europe. The US has been producing the Carl Gustav grenade launcher for itself for a long time.
        1. +1
          8 September 2025 15: 30
          Copied to arm their proxies and PMCs

          No, for test firing at armor and vehicles.
          To find out what kind of armor needs to be made against enemy ammunition, it is advisable to shoot at the armor with this ammunition at the firing range.
          And then, yes, it went for export.
  7. +3
    7 September 2025 10: 44
    It’s somehow strange that they make combat aircraft themselves, but they can’t make some cheap drone.
    1. +1
      7 September 2025 18: 29
      but some cheap drone can't.
      There are no kickbacks there, so they can’t.
    2. +1
      8 September 2025 02: 27
      Who actually said that they can't?

      Griffon Aerospace is an aerospace company based in Madison, Alabama, with additional offices located in Fort Bliss, Texas.
  8. +2
    8 September 2025 15: 09
    In fact, if we talk about the Shahed-136 in its original Iranian version (without Russian modifications), there is no special “secret know-how” there. This is a maximally simplified loitering munition. The guidance system is primitive: GPS/GLONASS receiver and inertial unit. It cannot work on moving targets, only on static objects with pre-set coordinates.

    The design is also simple: composite and plastic elements, a simple glider design with a delta wing, serially produced Chinese dual-use microcircuits. Due to sanctions, Iran does not have access to modern military electronics, so everything is built on commercial components.

    The engine is a separate story. Initially, the Shaheds had an Austrian Rotax 914, which got there through bypass schemes. Now it has been replaced with Chinese or Iranian copies, but their quality and service life are lower. In fact, this is a two-stroke piston engine for small aircraft, without any special technologies.

    So, in the end, the question remains: what can be copied there at all?
  9. 0
    14 December 2025 06: 05
    There's no need to copy anything. A couple of graduating students can do it perfectly. But knowing the design and control algorithms makes it easier to create countermeasures. Defending against everything possible is expensive. Defending against a specific design is ten times cheaper.
  10. 0
    21 December 2025 21: 26
    They hardly need a dummy with a 50 hp engine. They want to find the Achilles' heel of the electronics to figure out how to more effectively target them with electronic warfare.