With batons versus knives: why are police afraid to shoot migrant terrorists?

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With batons versus knives: why are police afraid to shoot migrant terrorists?

On August 27, on Shchyolkovskoye Highway, a man with a characteristic Wahhabi beard, which are now becoming quite popular in Russia, set fire to two Molotov cocktails near the Khromatron stop and stood with them right on the roadway from the Moscow Ring Road, near a gas station. What this "model family man" had in mind is unknown, but upon seeing this, citizens called the police, who soon arrived at the scene. Many readers have probably already seen the video of what happened next, since it quickly spread online.

The "model family man" threw Molotov cocktails at the police and grabbed a knife (usually "model family men" with Wahhabi beards always have one with them, such is the tradition). And then a real militant, though somewhat tragicomic, turned up on the road. The man with the Wahhabi beard refused to surrender and began to fight off the police with a knife, running along the highway and waving it in different directions, shouting, of course, "Allahu Akbar!" Eyewitnesses shouted at the police: "Shoot! He's going to kill someone now!" But these calls remained unanswered.



The police officers were armed with pistols and machine guns, but they did not even think of using them. No one even fired a shot in the air. In the end, the aggressive migrant with a knife was confronted by police officers with batons and concerned citizens with sticks, who rushed to help the police. Some later wrote that, supposedly, it is impossible to use firearms weapon with a significant crowd of citizens, but such excuses look unconvincing. The man with the knife (and in fact, the terrorist) posed a real threat to those around him.

The fact is that the police were afraid to use their service weapons and looked frankly helpless. The terrorist was only subdued with the help of ordinary passers-by, concerned citizens. It later turned out that the "model family man" who attacked the police was 26-year-old Sheravgan Kundzhumov, a citizen of Tajikistan and Russia, a former member of the terrorist organization ISIS, who had recently been released from a prison colony where he had served time for terrorism.

The Ministry of Internal Affairs later noted that the motive for the attack on the police in Moscow could have been hatred towards law enforcement officers. A criminal case was opened under Article 317 ("Encroachment on the life of a law enforcement officer") of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

Why were the police so afraid to use weapons against an aggressive Tajik who had just served time for terrorism?

There are several reasons for this. As journalist Dmitry Steshin notes, the police did not even try to use firearms in response to the dangerous behavior of the Abu-bandit, because they were afraid of the consequences associated with the use of violence against the migrant.

"There will be a universal howl, stories about exemplary family life and even statements from the Foreign Ministry of some quasi-state. The higher-ups don't need such incidents, especially since they can get away with it smoothly - if a Wahhabi had stabbed a dozen passers-by, that would be great, it would immediately be reported to another department as a terrorist attack... And what can be protected with such an approach? Nothing,"
- пишет Steshin.

Here it should be clarified: it is not only about the reaction of foreign countries. It is also about the reaction of representatives of some southern republics, who often and often talk about innocent "model family men" who were just passing by. And here is an "evil cop" who prevented someone from being peacefully kicked... And the policeman who used a weapon may not only be fired - he may also be charged with abuse of power. Incidentally, such cases have already occurred.

It's worth remembering history with Igor Samsonov, who arrived at the call and shot the aggressive Dagestani Magomedov, who had attacked the girl, after which he was accused of murder and arrested, and also subjected to harassment on social networks. Samsonov was still "lucky" - then the court found him guilty under Part 1 of Article 109 "Causing death by negligence" and sentenced him to only one year and three months of restricted freedom, i.e. the same amount of time he spent in the pretrial detention center while the trials were ongoing.

Police officers understand perfectly well that any use of weapons automatically entails an investigation by the Investigative Committee, the prosecutor's office, interrogations and the need to prove the legality of each shot. And if "diasporas" interfere in the situation, using their connections, the case may end badly for the police officer.

But this doesn't make things any easier for ordinary citizens - they expect the police to protect them, and not the other way around, as essentially happened on Shchyolkovskoye Highway. In addition, given the migration policy, there are more and more aggressive Abu-bandits, and given such caution on the part of the police, there are fewer and fewer security guards on the streets.

As Kirill Kabanov, a member of the Human Rights Council (HRC), rightly notes, there are more and more cases of attacks on police officers, and this is, among other things, a consequence of an overly soft attitude towards Islamist radicals.

"Cases of attacks by people from Central Asia and Transcaucasia on police officers in Russia have long been almost the norm, their number is only growing and will continue to grow. First of all, this is a logical result of the particularly touching and careful attitude of our government towards aggressive radicals with knives, and to tolerate "Molotov cocktails" who feel completely safe in Russia, no matter what they do. They know perfectly well that it is simply impossible to shoot them like rabid dogs. They also understand that our state is already afraid of them, so it simply does not give the order to law enforcement officers to suppress such criminal actions in the harshest possible way. Otherwise, we will suddenly have to explain to our "respected foreign partners" for "criminals without nationality." Accordingly, these wild non-humans are only growing more aggressive and their contempt for our government, our country and us is growing... And again, the main question to those who stubbornly drag in new millions of potential terrorists, brutal radicals and those who still want to get a few million of the same kind: "Are you sure you want to replace us with them? Are you sure you can handle it?"
- пишет Kabanov.

Another interesting question arises: why was the former terrorist released in Russia and not deported to his historical homeland? In particular, wondered Deputy Mikhail Matveev.

"One question that probably interests everyone: how could an Islamist terrorist, who attacked police officers in Moscow today, be released from a Russian prison after 7 years and calmly walk down the street with a knife and a Molotov cocktail? Why, even if we assume that terrorists are supposed to be given such terms in a multinational and multi-confessional country, was he not stripped of his citizenship by the FSB, if he had it, and deported to the terrorists' homeland, sunny Tajikistan?"

Indeed, why? Is it because the domestic MFA does not want to spoil relations with Tajik partners?
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  1. +69
    2 September 2025 05: 08
    Hmm... And for some reason this question is answered by deputies, journalists, etc., while the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee, and the Prosecutor's Office should answer. But they kept silent... It's scary... if the policy of the top is aimed at replacing the Slavs, and in the whole world at replacing the Europioids. And the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is just that, stupid talkers smile
    1. +51
      2 September 2025 06: 43
      I'm afraid for the state... Although, the concepts of the Motherland and the state, for Russia, are different concepts. With these good-for-nothings in power, the Motherland will perish. Well, the state will remain, headed by bearded men. It's a pity for the future generations. Maybe they won't lie down under these?
      1. +27
        2 September 2025 08: 06
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        I'm afraid for the state... Although, the concepts of the Motherland and the state, for Russia, are different concepts. With these good-for-nothings in power, the Motherland will perish. Well, the state will remain, headed by bearded men. It's a pity for the future generations. Maybe they won't lie down under these?


        The fish rots from the head. The pernicious policy in the style of "whatever you want" for all foreigners and foreign citizens without exception takes on some really ugly, inadequate forms. A strange and absurd desire to please someone there, to pull them over to your side for some mythical geopolitical goals, that's what it leads to. To more gestures of goodwill. Here are more examples.

        Rosatom was unable to independently pay for the construction of the nuclear power plant, which is estimated at 20 billion dollars. Due to sanctions, the state nuclear corporation had money blocked in its accounts. As a result, in the summer, Akkuyu builders even organized a mass protest due to delays in payments. ... Turkey is Gazprom's third-largest import client after the EU and China. ... For Russia, supplies to Turkey are also becoming a headache and promise problems, although it is no longer possible to refuse to supply raw materials and build nuclear power plants. Ankara did not fail to take advantage of the situation and turn payments for fuel into another non-repayable loan. Thus, the Russian companies Gazprom and Rosatom, which are in need, will not receive what they are owed, since the payments will be turned into expenses with a deferred payment in both directions for many years. For Ankara, this is a very profitable situation, because Turkey received raw materials and will continue to build a large-scale energy facility. Domestic gas will be supplied, apparently, completely free of charge.


        https://topcor.ru/63810-ocherednoj-zhest-dobroj-voli-dengi-za-rossijskij-gaz-iz-turcii-v-rf-ne-vernutsja.html

        "Brilliant" policy to trade gas and build nuclear power plants in other countries at a loss and at your own expense. In what country is something like this practiced, except ours?

        . India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is already licensing the production of Russian Su-30MKI fighters at its Nashik facility, which could be used for the Su-57 if required. The Russian agencies interested in the matter are conducting studies to determine the investment required to manufacture the aircraft in India, defence sources told ANI. They said there are other facilities in India that manufacture a range of other Russian-origin equipment that could be used to manufacture the fifth-generation fighters if there is a need to manufacture them in India, and could also help bring down costs.


        https://topcor.ru/63812-v-piku-ssha-moskva-budet-proizvodit-su-57-v-indii-vmesto-prodazhi-samoletov-ani.html

        "Whatever you want" style politics.
        1. +23
          2 September 2025 08: 29
          At least Moscow has a police force... we don't go out to fights and hooliganism anymore... there's no one, even though it's a city of a million... alas, we're understaffed
          1. +24
            2 September 2025 08: 34
            In the same Shchyolkovo, even the police do not always help. And what are those in power thinking? Are they waiting for the problem to start threatening the state directly? When will we turn into some Syria of the 10s? And then they will say again that we were deceived? Video at the link.

            .Another wild story with migrants and again in Shchyolkovo. It is wild not because of the cruelty or consequences, I will explain now. A plainclothes police officer noticed how several men were behaving aggressively with a security guard at the Globus shopping center. The policeman approached, showed his ID and asked everyone to calm down. And now attention. In response, there was immediate swearing and punches in the face. Then the policeman took out, as Mash writes, a traumatic pistol and fired several times. One of the attackers (a native of Tajikistan) was detained. He is now being interrogated. What do law-abiding citizens do when they see an ID and hear a request to calm down? They come to their senses. Radical Islamists, who are dragged to Russia in droves as part of their "brotherly duty," attack. They attack a police officer. It is not hard to imagine what they will do to ordinary citizens, to the same security guard, to women. This migration madness, coupled with the personnel shortage in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, threatens not just people - it threatens the state itself.



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              1. +7
                2 September 2025 13: 03
                I would like the quote you provided to be read somewhere at the top and to draw the appropriate conclusions, finally ceasing to implement an unsuccessful, illusory policy that is harmful to the country.
                1. +15
                  3 September 2025 11: 13
                  "Do you want to know what the capitalists want?
                  The triumph of the interests of their wallets, even at the cost of Russia's destruction - that's what they want." Written by Comrade Stalin more than a century ago.
                  Now remember who our government consists of.
                  1. +3
                    12 September 2025 20: 24
                    We now have state-monopoly capitalism, that is, the merger of the oligarchy with the ruling elite.
              2. +2
                2 September 2025 18: 57
                and not because we built another school in a remote village.


                Basically, the Central Asian states are fighting radicalism, but in doing so they are pushing the radicals out. This is mainly because their correctional system is unable to digest this flow.
                Therefore, it is necessary to build prisons in Central Asia now - many, many new prisons and provide priority assistance to the system of detention of prisoners in the Central Asian region. Then, on the one hand, all convicts will serve their sentences in their homeland, the local authorities will not squeeze them out. On the other hand, this deprives the radicals of the Middle Eastern countries of human resources and stops the circulation of problematic migrants through the Middle Eastern, Central Asian and Russian territories.
                1. +17
                  2 September 2025 19: 29
                  Quote: ycuce234-san
                  Basically, the Central Asian states are fighting radicalism, but in doing so they are pushing the radicals out. This is mainly because their correctional system is unable to digest this flow.

                  Let them be forced out anywhere, but not to us. Or better yet, put them up against the wall right away.....After Crocus, the Turks (Muslims) almost immediately introduced a visa regime with Tajikistan. And recently in the UAE (Muslims) they threw out the Uzbeks for disorderly conduct and introduced visas with Uzbekistan. This is how they work with their co-religionists - fraternal brothers in mind. It is we who are chewing snot..... Like, in schools they will get an education and will be smarter. Aha... So they dragged their families and children to us, to Russia, through open borders. And in our Russian schools they are already demanding almost Sharia...
                  If we build them prisons and maintain them at our expense, then, by your logic, we should also help in this way in Afghanistan, the hotbed of Wahhabism? Why don't their co-religionists from the rich Gulf countries, and not only, help them with the construction of prisons?
                  Problematic migrants migrate across open borders. But, for example, in China there is no such thing. They have a problem with their Uyghurs and they don't need visiting scumbags for nothing. You can't enter China in a niqab, and getting a passport is a real quest (almost impossible). And the laws against radicals are a real pain in the ass. But with the blessing of local governments, they have started building various profitable facilities in Central Asia, and dumped all the riffraff in Russia. They released a terrorist who had served time in a Russian prison and instead of throwing him out, he is now freely roaming our country. fool
                  1. 0
                    2 September 2025 19: 53
                    in Afghanistan, a hotbed of Wahhabism, should we also help in this way?

                    You are thinking in the right direction. Stakhanovite prison construction allows us to fight not the consequences but to keep the root cause under control, not all but many. And this is a more civilized and thoughtful way. After all, those who leave as ordinary people with a radical way of thinking will return back as seasoned fighters of illegal organizations and movements. So why allow such a development of events when serving a sentence in their homeland will prevent this and return the majority to ordinary society. After all, in prison you can work in production and study, and all this can be organized at a modern level. And in the Middle East, we also need to help local states with the maintenance of prisoners, otherwise the problem will have to be solved at home and at an advanced stage.
                    1. +3
                      2 September 2025 20: 22
                      Quote: ycuce234-san
                      So why allow such a development of events when serving a sentence in one’s home country will prevent this and return the majority to normal society.

                      I hope you read the news on the Internet about "green prisons" in OUR country? This has never happened before and here it is again.... belay Here is one such "reformed" one who came out... But, as we say - the grave will reform a hunchback. Was it in vain that I mentioned the wall...?
                      And the best crime prevention is to prevent these crimes. And the legal closure of borders is the most effective method. And the borders themselves, in turn, are not just a wall, but a system of minefields and lethal force when crossing the line, like in a "zone" for hardened criminals. But when the enemy is inside the fortress, where he was let in - either out of stupidity, or deliberately with the prospect of undermining the country from within ... then this is already more serious and more complicated. Especially aggravated by the distribution of passports. Yes
                      There is no need to solve THEIR problems for anyone and only help on certain conditions, and not just like that. The text above says that freebies corrupt and are stolen, and don't expect any gratitude.
                      This problem was created for us not so much by the migrants from these countries, but by those WHO let them in. That is the reason, and everything else is a consequence.
                      1. +3
                        3 September 2025 00: 04
                        Does it matter whether the prisons are green or purple, if they are located outside of Russia - in Asia, Africa, Latin America. The important thing is that they and their inhabitants are in their home countries.
                        As a rule, in these countries the law is very strict and precise in relation to radicalism at large and especially in penal institutions. The main problems are the liquidation of criminal organizations, which is impossible to do without access to the source and reasons for their emergence, to the leadership and beneficiaries of such organizations. And they need to implement restrictions of freedom for many years through the courts.
                        It is no coincidence that the US State Department maintains prisons outside the US for especially dangerous criminals.
                        Guantanamo, for example, is well-known and in the media, but in reality there is a whole system of them all over our planet. They have simply already learned the lessons of history and we only have to learn from their experience and other American mistakes and successes. Those characters that America is now holding in such foreign policy prisons, otherwise (in the absence of such a prison system) would freely move around the world, including freely coming to Russia, and no one should wish to have them as neighbors.
                      2. +6
                        3 September 2025 09: 05
                        Quote: ycuce234-san
                        Does it matter whether the prisons are green or purple, if they are located outside of Russia - in Asia, Africa, Latin America. The important thing is that they and their inhabitants are in their home countries.
                        As a rule, in these countries the law is very strict and precise in relation to radicalism at large and especially in penal institutions.

                        I will emphasize to you once again that this is secondary, after the adoption of PREVENTIVE measures against terrorists in Russia ITSELF. Namely, a visa and border fence around the country. Which is what Trump is trying to do now on the border with Mexico. If you are appealing to the American experience... Including in the fight against drug trafficking. Which concerns us too, having drug-producing countries nearby.
                        If we talk about the Guantanamo you mentioned, this prison base is located on the territory of CUBA, and not in their native Muslim Afghanistan or Tajikistan. It is logical - why drag these scoundrels into your country (where, by the way, torture is prohibited, and there - it is different, outside the American jurisdiction), if you can keep them in a third country. Because there are no guarantees that they will be released in their homeland.
                        I'm saying this because I once watched a story on NTV where the topic was raised about how one migrant from Tajikistan was convicted of murdering a Russian citizen in Russia, and then, according to an agreement between the countries, sent to serve a considerable sentence in his homeland. Imagine the surprise of the Ministry of Internal Affairs employees when this same character was detained for yet another serious crime in Russia...less than a year after he was deported. That's how "strict" the system is there. No.
                        And another thing from the American experience - Trump simply banned entry to citizens of a number of countries - everyone, indiscriminately, whether you are a terrorist or a law-abiding citizen. Sort it out yourselves...
                        Quote: ycuce234-san
                        ...they would move freely around the world, including freely coming to Russia, and no one should wish to have them as their neighbors.

                        I will repeat my thesis again: There should be no free entry into Russia from countries where there is a high level of terrorism and drug trafficking. stop And, as they say, the higher the fence, the better the neighbors.... Yes
                      3. -1
                        3 September 2025 20: 04
                        Imagine the surprise of the Ministry of Internal Affairs employees when this same character was detained for yet another serious crime in Russia...less than a year after he was deported.

                        That is why we cannot let the situation with justice in the countries from which such characters can come to us take its course. If the aid program works, then this will be impossible. It is possible to close the border, but without other problem-solving complexes, this will not give any special result, migration will still occur, since on the other hand, demographic and economic pressure is great.
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                      5. +5
                        3 September 2025 00: 28
                        Quote: Askold65
                        This problem was created for us not so much by migrants from these countries, but by those WHO let them in. That is the reason, and everything else is a consequence.

                        This is the root of the whole problem!
                      6. +1
                        3 September 2025 06: 23
                        Quote: Dart
                        Quote: Askold65
                        This problem was created for us not so much by migrants from these countries, but by those WHO let them in. That is the reason, and everything else is a consequence.

                        This is the root of the whole problem!

                        No, no! Read Karl Marx: "Being determines consciousness"!
                      7. +2
                        3 September 2025 20: 44
                        Quote: non-primary
                        No, no! Read Karl Marx: "Being determines consciousness"!

                        No. It's not like that. Consciousness determines existence. As Bulgakov said: the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads...
                      8. 0
                        4 September 2025 03: 38
                        Quote: Askold65
                        Quote: non-primary
                        No, no! Read Karl Marx: "Being determines consciousness"!

                        No. It's not like that. Consciousness determines existence. As Bulgakov said: the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads...

                        But I still advise you to read Karl Marx! By the way, during the 2008 crisis, the best-selling book in the world was Karl Marx's "Capital".
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                2. +2
                  3 September 2025 19: 48
                  I apologize profusely... Why build prisons and put people in jail for terrorism? Maybe it would be better to bring back the death penalty for this? Why keep someone who does nothing but harm for years at taxpayers' expense?
                  1. -1
                    3 September 2025 20: 10
                    For example, a criminal can be a witness to the crimes of other criminals at the same time. By sending him to the electric chair, you would guarantee impunity for these criminals. Not everyone is always sentenced to long terms; there are those who can return to society. There are many reasons.
                    1. 0
                      5 September 2025 00: 32
                      Well, in general, they usually sat for several years awaiting the death penalty... But how many return? Somehow I doubt it...
                      There are also "prison universities" and "jamaats"
                      1. 0
                        5 September 2025 18: 11
                        Criminals by vocation are always an insignificant minority, as are all kinds of radical passionaries, with their heads boiling with ideas.
                        In order for these prison universities not to work, it is necessary to have an excess of space for holding prisoners, so that it would be possible to literally physically isolate groups of people with different attitudes to the possibility of returning to society. In particular, it is necessary to have an excess of places of detention in unfavorable and disadvantaged regions of geography, where the genesis of criminal organizations occurs.
                        At the same time, many other measures need to be ensured there, for example, guarantees of independence and impartiality of the court and fairness of legislation. All this provides obstacles to the reproduction of crime.
                      2. 0
                        11 September 2025 19: 32
                        It's time to write an article not about those who consciously chose a criminal profession, but about the mentally ill and frostbitten (psychopaths). And there are more and more of them. And not only among the notorious "tanned". And we are not talking about banal criminality, but about extremism and terrorism. I have not heard of anyone "cured" from this. Therefore, only radical measures. From deportation to the highest. And there is no need to support psychos and thugs at our expense on "excess space". "Radical passionaries" are rare. And the mentally ill - constantly
                      3. 0
                        12 September 2025 08: 09
                        So deportations should be made to their homeland or to a country willing to accept such people. But if they are convicted of crimes, they should be deported to local prisons. But their areas are insufficient, the equipment is outdated, and the personnel is corrupt. Therefore, the results of their work are low, since both dangerous and less dangerous criminals know that they will soon be free.
                        Poor conditions of detention lead to the fact that such institutions themselves become a threat to society, since tuberculosis and other infections spread in them, which then end up affecting people who are not involved at all.
                        In general, it makes sense to introduce the institution of private prisons for those who violated the laws of the Russian Federation in the near and far abroad, borrowing it from the USA. It is easier to control the quality of life, infections and corruption in them. And the residents themselves will know that they will have no opportunity to illegally evade the punishment meted out in the Russian Federation and the effect of the punishment will be more significant.
                      4. 0
                        12 September 2025 16: 39
                        That's why I was in favor of "the highest measure". Forgive me for the characterization, but why support these dregs of human society, who only cause harm? And don't need all these hassles that you write about.
                        As for deportation - let their homeland deal with them itself. And entry to us should be closed to them forever. No matter how "good" they become after deportation
                      5. 0
                        12 September 2025 08: 22
                        Quote: futurohunter
                        to be maintained at our expense

                        Regarding money, you need to remember the simple truth that the money that the state does not spend on the needs of society, improving the standard of living of this society, officials will be able to steal and convert into mansions in the Bahamas, improving their personal standard of living at your expense. Therefore, spending on social projects and infrastructure, science and even prisons is beneficial to society.
                        In poor countries this is often visible even in urban architecture: luxurious palaces stand next to the squalor of favelas that stink of sewage, and so the entire city is like a patchwork quilt of expensive new buildings and ruins.
                      6. 0
                        12 September 2025 16: 41
                        It is much more productive and much less expensive to take measures to avoid sending people to these prisons. For example, not to let suspicious elements into our country and deport them if they have already arrived. Provide people with decent living conditions. But prisons certainly should not be in the first place.
                      7. 0
                        12 September 2025 18: 32
                        These are simple and non-working solutions.
                        For example, uncontrolled infections and crime will come back to us anyway, only later and with other people, for example, with citizens-tourists or business travelers, truck drivers and even Internet users.
                        You can find and listen to an audiobook on the Internet, where it is popularly explained why uncontrolled infections are dangerous and how to effectively fight them, it will be clearer why it is so important for Russia to have prisons in its near abroad, equipped according to the latest technology and science: Preston Richard - Epidemic. The real and terrible story of the spread of the Ebola virus
      2. -30
        2 September 2025 10: 05
        You would always blame the authorities. Laws and tightenings have been adopted. The fact that someone does not follow the laws (is afraid, lazy, bribed) is not a question for the authorities, but for the executors. The same district police officers protect migrants, but no one touches them, they are not even noticed.
        1. +15
          2 September 2025 11: 05
          The authorities must be the authorities and protect law-abiding citizens, even at the cost of using firearms against lawbreakers.
          And they are not afraid of what someone will say there. Moreover, visiting bandits will know that they risk getting a bullet in the forehead for breaking the law without consequences for the shooter.
        2. +13
          2 September 2025 12: 47
          A bandit should be afraid of a policeman, but for us it’s the other way around.
          For decisive actions, the hypothetical sergeant will receive a severe reprimand from his superiors, threats (at best) to him personally and his family from the diaspora, a bunch of explanations, and suspension until the matter is clarified...
          Does he need it? Maybe quietly, peacefully, with persuasion...
          But the "experts" don't understand the words.
        3. +8
          2 September 2025 14: 59
          What laws and tightening? Where is the law banning the import of families of labor migrants? Where is the law banning the acquisition of citizenship? This is just off the top of my head. And I scold the government for taking the Ku pose.
          1. +1
            4 September 2025 04: 14
            If the legislators include such lobbyists of the interests of foreign gangster organized crime groups-diasporas as K. Zatulin, aka Zatullo Dushanbinsky, V. Matvienko, aka Valyukha-stakana and the like, then Russia will never see such laws.
      3. 0
        2 September 2025 22: 00
        Young people have nothing better to do than to throw away other people's mistakes. If they have a minimum of brains, they will be bought out.
        This is the wrong position. We screwed up, it's up to us to decide. Everyone has their own methods, I'm not calling for crime
        1. +2
          3 September 2025 07: 08
          And what did we say? Personally for me, this is not my government. And it is guilty. Neither I nor you are involved. Do you go to the elections? I go and spoil the ballot. There are no people there for whom you can vote.
      4. 0
        5 September 2025 07: 54
        It's a pity for future generations. Maybe they won't lie down under these ones?

        With such a government, there will be no future generations of indigenous people in Russia.
    2. -23
      2 September 2025 07: 25
      Quote: Alexander_Makedonskov
      Hmm... And for some reason this question is answered by deputies, journalists, etc...
      They want to get some publicity by inventing nonsense that doesn’t exist but is in demand by the target audience.
      Quote: Alexander_Makedonskov
      And the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee and the prosecutor's office should be held accountable...
      Why? It is obvious that using weapons in a crowded place is only possible in extreme cases.
      1. +18
        2 September 2025 09: 00
        Are you, sir, adequate in your perception of the world or are you working off the cash from the diasporas?
      2. +14
        2 September 2025 10: 28
        Quote: srelock
        It is obvious that using weapons in a crowded place is only possible as a last resort.

        It is obvious that this was an extreme case. What is extreme when a terrorist attacks people and government officials with a knife?
      3. +13
        2 September 2025 12: 33
        Quote: srelock
        It is obvious that using weapons in a crowded place is only possible as a last resort.

        What do you think the terrorist should have done for the police to open fire? Probably kill a couple of passers-by, and even then it's not a given that it would have been an "extreme case". After all, he is a valuable specialist from a highly respected republic.
        Soon they will be wearing purple pants, and we will be doing Ku for them twice.

        I am surprised that a criminal case has not yet been opened against the citizens who helped the police. Or has it already been opened?

        If the state does not want to protect its citizens, why does a citizen need such a state?
      4. +1
        2 September 2025 12: 37
        The rules for using weapons are regulated by the combat service charter. And this charter is loaded into the brain until it becomes automatic. If there is a real threat to the lives of police officers or other citizens and it is not possible to detain the criminal by other means, the police officer is obliged to use his service weapon. True, there is a stipulation that no third parties should be harmed. If the criminal is armed with a bladed weapon, they usually shoot at the legs. There were cases when a squad that went out to a family scandal encountered an inadequate person armed with a kitchen knife and used a weapon. Everything was legal.
        1. Egg
          +3
          2 September 2025 15: 59
          Quote from lako
          There were cases when a police unit that was dispatched to a family scandal encountered an inadequate person armed with a kitchen knife and used a weapon.

          Why not use it? There is no diaspora behind an inadequate person in a family scandal that will threaten both the policemen themselves and his family, but there is behind the bearded man.
          Although on the other hand, if we give our corrupt police the opportunity to shoot at everything that moves uncontrollably and with impunity, then that won’t be good either.
          1. 0
            2 September 2025 16: 11
            I think that if a man, no matter what nationality, ran through the streets with a knife and Molotov cocktails, they wouldn’t shoot at his legs.
            1. Egg
              +1
              3 September 2025 16: 00
              Quote from lako
              I think that if a man, no matter what nationality, ran through the streets with a knife and Molotov cocktails, they wouldn’t shoot at his legs.

              what knife, what are you talking about?
              I hope they still remember the old woman who seriously wounded a huge riot policeman in full armor with a paper cup? So she probably perished in the camps...
        2. +6
          2 September 2025 22: 02
          Yes, yes...legal. I heard these songs somewhere in the swamps drinks

          The Investigative Department for the Butyrsky District of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for Moscow detained district police officer Renat Khafizov, who shot a drunken hooligan. Investigators believe that the policeman used his weapon without justification.

          As a source in law enforcement agencies told Rosbalt, Khafizov was summoned for questioning the previous evening, after which a decision was made to detain him. A case was opened against the police officer under Articles 286 (abuse of power) and 105 (murder) of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. According to investigators, when Khafizov shot at the hooligan, he did not pose a threat to the lives of either the district police officer himself or the two women with a child.

          As reported to Rosbalt by the North-Eastern Administrative District Department of Internal Affairs, Renat Khafizov, having graduated from police college a year ago, came to work as a district police officer at the Altufevsky District Department of Internal Affairs. On May 17, the duty unit of the Altufevsky District Department of Internal Affairs in Moscow received a message from a concerned resident of house 17 on Bibirevskaya Street. The woman said that her son-in-law was threatening her, his wife, and daughter with a knife. To verify the information, the district police officer assigned to the area, Junior Police Lieutenant Renat Khafizov, was sent to the specified address.

          Arriving at the scene, the police officer found the women and child intimidated. The man, who was intoxicated, was waving a kitchen knife and shouting that he would kill everyone. The man did not respond to the demands of the district police officer to stop threatening and go to the police station. Having become completely enraged, the troublemaker began to attack the law enforcement officer with a knife in his hand. The junior police lieutenant took out his service weapon. In order to repel the attack, which was dangerous to life and health, having previously warned the attacker about the possibility of using a firearm, the district police officer fired one shot, wounding the attacker in the stomach.

          The police officer immediately called an ambulance and reported the incident to the duty station. The doctors who arrived confirmed the death of the wounded man. The family members told the officers about all the bullying and intimidation from the head of the family. The man abused alcohol and had already been convicted four times for threats to kill. (c)
          1. Egg
            -1
            3 September 2025 15: 49
            Quote: hhurik
            The local police officer fired one shot, wounding the attacker in the stomach.

            and you couldn't shoot at the legs?
            he would have shot himself in the head...
          2. +3
            3 September 2025 16: 13
            We had a similar situation in Minsk on New Year's Eve. There, two drunks attacked a district police officer and tried to seize his service weapon. The police officer was forced to shoot. The owner of the apartment died as a result of his wounds. Despite the howling, the swamps, and all sorts of human rights activists, the use of weapons was recognized as lawful.
    3. +7
      2 September 2025 10: 26
      Quote: Alexander_Makedonskov
      Hmm... And for some reason this question is answered by deputies, journalists, etc., while the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee, and the prosecutor's office should be answering.

      So it is in theory, when all branches of power are independent from each other. But it is not about our country. Therefore it is as it is.
    4. -1
      2 September 2025 17: 14
      Quote: Alexander_Makedonskov
      But these ones kept silent

      Have you asked them?
      Bloggers and other journalists will either "explain" everything to you themselves as it should be, or they will go to those who enjoy chatting.
    5. +8
      3 September 2025 04: 29
      "With clubs versus knives: why are the police afraid to shoot migrant terrorists?" - for the same reason that Putin does not strike at his NATO partners with proxy forces! To be more specific, he doesn't have the guts!
    6. +1
      3 September 2025 10: 10
      "And for some reason, deputies, journalists, etc. answer this question, while the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee, and the Prosecutor's Office should answer." So, in such cases, we need to call the heads of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee, and the Prosecutor's Office. Let them show by personal example how to act. Maybe after that, their heads will clear up.
    7. -1
      7 September 2025 22: 22
      It's scary... if the policy of the top is aimed at replacing the Slavs, and in the whole world at replacing the Europioids
      Is it aimed exactly like that? Or maybe self-sawing takes place? For example, among schoolchildren who drink and throw up, I mainly observe the so-called Europoids. Schoolgirls are not far behind either.
  2. +36
    2 September 2025 05: 14
    It turned out to be 26-year-old Sheravgan Kunjumov, a citizen of Tajikistan and Russia, a former member of the terrorist organization ISIS, who had recently been released from a penal colony where he had served time for terrorism.

    And here is the answer to the question, how can you walk the streets at 26 and be convicted of terrorism? How long did he get? A year or a year and a half? Yes, it's funny, in the same US, before any Live Black Matter, the police shoot almost immediately, because if they think that a person is reaching for something, then most likely it is a weapon. It is indicative that in one of the states in 2015 they fought against street racers, when daredevils fatally hit a police officer, they organized a raid with battering rams, spikes, and if the person did not stop immediately, they literally finished him off and shot to kill, daredevils and lovers of racing literally disappeared from the streets. Everything is more complicated here, if you chew snot, then nothing good can be expected. But if you chew snot at the very top, expect a catastrophe, here all sorts of explosions of houses, subways, airplanes, and Crocuses can still seem like flowers ....
    1. -3
      2 September 2025 13: 14
      Quote from turembo
      Reckless drivers and speeders literally disappeared from the streets.

      On average, US police kill 3 people a day.
      1. +4
        2 September 2025 13: 29
        So there, police officers die at the hands of scoundrels much more often. How many millions of handguns are in the hands of the population? That's why cops shoot because they can kill the same policeman at any moment. Again, only if the police demands are not met. Yes, there are excesses there, but that's the price of order.
    2. +8
      2 September 2025 13: 17
      Quote from turembo
      Yes, it's funny, in the US, before any Live Black Matter, the police shoot almost immediately, because if they think that if a person is reaching for something, then it's most likely a weapon.

      I once read comments on YouTube from our former compatriot living in the US, on roughly the same topic. In their town there was an incident on the road, when the same psycho, only from the Caucasus, forgot that this was not Russia, jumped out of the car and started to bully the policeman who stopped him in their manner. fool And then he got his bullet in the forehead...
  3. +35
    2 September 2025 05: 16
    smile
    . The terrorist was only subdued with the help of ordinary passers-by and concerned citizens.

    Is this the bottom?
    Or is it not the bottom yet?
    I looked at all this and didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.
    Without OMON and SOBR, ordinary police are completely helpless. request
    And what should ordinary citizens do if such a valuable specialist attacks them?
    According to the law, he cannot be harmed in any way physically; for any bruise or broken finger of the aggressor, the prosecutor's office or investigators immediately initiate a case against the defending citizen... after all, I think that such justice has become a laughing stock in the eyes of citizens.
    1. +15
      2 September 2025 05: 25
      Maybe bring back OMON and SOBR to the police? The Russian Guard already has enough special forces from the former Internal Troops.
      1. +11
        2 September 2025 12: 41
        What does riot police have to do with it?
        Laws and law enforcement practices need to be changed. Radically, at that.
        So that an honest citizen would not be afraid to stand up for an unknown girl at night. And not like now, that at best he will get off with a "ten" from his native state for damaging the most valuable specialists.
        1. 0
          2 September 2025 17: 21
          Quote: Neo-9947
          Laws and law enforcement practices need to be changed. Radically, at that.
          So that an honest citizen would not be afraid to stand up for an unknown girl at night. And not like now, that at best he will get off with a "ten" from his native state for damaging the most valuable specialists.

          And allow concealed carry short-barreled weapons in addition to this. The number of bullies will immediately decrease. Not to wait, when will it become quite relevant Proverb: "It is better for two to lead than for six to carry."
          All this will not happen painlessly, but relatively quickly, and there will be more order.
        2. 0
          3 September 2025 12: 04
          Yes, it's stupid to issue stun guns. Well, men are afraid of problems, don't want to use weapons, then stun gun + handcuffs and then sort it out. Just so that there isn't such a drag as with recorders, that they are all already in pieces, they don't issue new ones. And repairs cost as much as a new recorder. Well, they cost a lot, because of certification.
          1. +1
            3 September 2025 12: 35
            Why the minus 😆? Are you against stun guns or are you for the hassle of supply and material support. 😆😆
      2. 0
        3 September 2025 17: 25
        Or maybe just regular police and send the foreigners home?
  4. +18
    2 September 2025 05: 24
    You can't turn the country into a walk-through yard. We are afraid of external conversations everywhere. And migrants take advantage of this and provoke us to take tough measures. They came to work, not to swing their fists. In other countries, migrants don't behave like that. So they found methods to communicate with them. Why can't we do anything?
    1. +33
      2 September 2025 06: 44
      Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
      You can't turn the country into a walk-through yard. We are afraid of external conversations everywhere. And migrants take advantage of this and provoke us to take tough measures. They came to work, not to swing their fists. In other countries, migrants don't behave like that. So they found methods to communicate with them. Why can't we do anything?

      Political impotents are in power, and so on down the chain. By the way, in a few days, Tajikistan's Independence Day will be celebrated and Moscow will be decorated with Tajikistan flags, curtain.
      1. +5
        2 September 2025 08: 25
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        By the way, in a few days it will be Tajikistan's Independence Day and Moscow will be decorated with Tajikistan flags, curtain.

        IMHO, these days in Moscow it would be better for NON-Tajiks not to show up on the streets. And not only in Moscow.
      2. +5
        2 September 2025 13: 37
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        Political impotents are in power, and so on down the chain. By the way, in a few days, Tajikistan's Independence Day will be celebrated and Moscow will be decorated with Tajikistan flags, curtain.

        Putin has some kind of reverence for Tajikistan. angry And the number of Tajiks accepted into Russian citizenship is AN ORDER OF MORE than from other CIS countries. Which includes, among other things, citizens of Afghanistan who bought passports in the super-corrupt Tajikistan.
    2. -5
      2 September 2025 13: 20
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      In other countries, migrants do not behave like this. So they have found methods to communicate with them.

      The same problem exists throughout Europe...There are areas where the police don't even go, so as not to provoke a riot.
      1. +5
        2 September 2025 14: 07
        Why do we point to Europe? We live in our own country.
        1. +3
          2 September 2025 14: 30
          Why do we point to Europe? We live in our own country.

          Because some of our comrades are honestly mistaken that in other countries they have found a method of communicating with migrants, that they do not behave like in Russia.
          In our country, unfortunately, the same European method is used - liberal tolerance and political correctness towards visiting criminals. The result is obvious.... sad
          In those countries where they don't bother with this crap, migrants behave calmly. Because they know that in the best case - a kick in the ass and back to their homeland, without the possibility of coming back again, and in the worst - a tough prison (and not our "pioneer camp", by their standards) or the death penalty. And the regime of stay for migrants is very strict.
          It wouldn't hurt to introduce an article against diasporas here, too. For the slightest attempt to put pressure on law enforcement agencies or "come to an agreement" (and police officers should be required to report such attempts, otherwise they will be considered accomplices) - immediately harsh measures in the form of detention, deprivation of citizenship, and deporting everyone from the country in a single train. Both criminals and defenders.
          1. +3
            2 September 2025 15: 01
            I agree. I can give the example of the Persian Gulf states.
    3. +1
      3 September 2025 07: 52
      yes, what kind of a thoroughfare in this particular case, the policeman was obliged to use a weapon, a knife and also a Molotov, this is a socially dangerous method, but what if he had thrown it at a car with people? If a particular officer has no spirit, maybe he went to serve in the wrong place, how did the psychologist let him through?
  5. +14
    2 September 2025 05: 28
    Apparently the police are heavily controlled by "supervisory authorities" - they are afraid to take the initiative in this case to use weapons.
    1. +13
      2 September 2025 08: 29
      But if it had not been a Tajik, but one of our own, a native, would the brave policemen have behaved just as delicately? wink
  6. +32
    2 September 2025 05: 44
    The situation could have developed differently if Abu the bandit had thrown a Molotov cocktail at a passing motorcade with flashing lights of some important official.
    Here you have both terrorism and a threat to the state system, and if an insolent chuchmek threatens ordinary citizens or cops with a knife, then all the media and authorities don't give a damn...
    1. 0
      3 September 2025 22: 08
      You are wrong, the one who abandoned him will still be found not guilty, because the diasporas will stand up for him, and the policeman will be jailed for inaction!
  7. +3
    2 September 2025 06: 06
    For some reason I remembered the drill in the army of Paul I, when initiative was suppressed (as it is now in the police).
    This is what the network gave out:
    "Paul I introduced "stick" discipline in the Russian imperial army. He considered it necessary for each person to have precise knowledge and strict fulfillment of the duties assigned to him by the charter and job descriptions.
    The Emperor promulgated new army regulations, which copied Prussian models in everything from weapons and tactics to clothing and hairstyles. According to these regulations, soldiers were trained not so much for war as for a parade. Drill and discipline based on the principle of "beat two and train a third" stifled their military initiative.
    This was also connected with the rejection of maneuver tactics and the transition to linear tactics, the only possible one with such methods of training and education of troops.
    The introduction of the Prussian military uniform, wigs with curls and braid and stick discipline caused discontent among the Russian service nobility."
    1. +4
      2 September 2025 11: 10
      The discontent of the nobility was not caused by this, but by the fact that Pavel Petrovich began to disperse the idle fools from the guard regiments around St. Petersburg into regiments for real military service.
      These guards officers were the instigators of the coup.
      And the army men were pulling the strap in the garrisons and they didn’t want that.
  8. +23
    2 September 2025 06: 33
    Here one thing is absolutely clear, the government with its "open door" policy towards the countries of Central Asia and Transcaucasia, as well as flirting with foreigners at the expense of the indigenous population, has put the country on the brink of a religious-ethnic war. Now imagine, for the Anglo-Saxons with their experience of inciting such wars, it will be very difficult to "throw a match" at the right moment.
    1. +15
      2 September 2025 06: 53
      The fact that there are attempts to tighten the immigration policy is, according to Cervantes, a fight against windmills. There is a comprehensive approach, right up to a review of citizenship (where they work, how these people behave). No workers? Let the entrepreneurs invite, take responsibility. And without families, and the possibility of obtaining citizenship. Live in dormitories, behind a fence.
    2. +3
      2 September 2025 12: 17
      they will win this war...................
  9. +25
    2 September 2025 06: 33
    Several years ago in Yekaterinburg, the police shot dead a young man who allegedly stole several rolls of wallpaper from a store. The story is murky and not entirely clear. One thing is clear: the Russian guy was shot dead in his own apartment, and in this case, no weapons were used against a real terrorist.
    1. +23
      2 September 2025 07: 07
      It’s just that the Russian guy doesn’t have the diaspora behind him, with its money and influence.
      1. +18
        2 September 2025 07: 13
        This is the main problem of the Russian people - disunity.
        1. +9
          2 September 2025 09: 06
          Remember the SA, people from Asia and the Caucasus are fellow countrymen and are for each other, and Russians + Belarusians + Ukrainians, as a rule, are each for themselves, with rare exceptions.
      2. +8
        2 September 2025 07: 54
        Quote: Idle_piston
        It’s just that the Russian guy doesn’t have the diaspora behind him, with its money and influence.

        It’s just that the Russian is deprived of those rights for which the guardians of morality and opponents of the death penalty fight so zealously:
        Article 20
        1. Everyone has the right to life.
        2. Until its abolition, the death penalty may be established by federal law as an exceptional measure of punishment for especially grave crimes against life, if the accused person is granted the right to a jury trial.
      3. +3
        2 September 2025 14: 42
        Quote: Idle_piston
        It’s just that the Russian guy doesn’t have the diaspora behind him, with its money and influence.

        Information from February 2024.
        On Monday, February 12, the Ivanovo District Court issued a verdict on the high-profile case of the "Kokhomsky shooter" Alexander Krasnov. This verdict was awaited by everyone who had sympathized with the Kokhomsky resident all these years and hoped for the triumph of justice.

        "Tsargrad" reported that in June 2021, Alexander's son Artem had a conflict with a native of Tajikistan, Dovud Astanakulov. The young man stood up for his girlfriend, who was unfairly deprived of housing by her relatives. A fight ensued, in which the Russian guy won. The Tajik held a grudge.
        A crowd of Tajiks attacked the Krasnovs' house on Lermontov Street in Kokhma, under cover of darkness, after midnight.
        Preparations for the attack were serious. The migrants armed themselves with stun guns, pieces of rebar, baseball bats and stones.

        There were at least 25 Tajiks. They began to insult the Krasnov family and threaten them with violence.
        Alexander had a Saiga hunting rifle. Shots into the air did not bring the attackers to their senses. The attack was stopped only by lethal shots.

        "I used weapons to protect my family, home, children, guests. If I had not used them, I don't know how it would have ended," said Alexander Krasnov in his final statement.
        One of the Tajiks was killed and another was wounded.
        Aleksandr Krasnov was charged with intentional infliction of grievous bodily harm and murder. The victims insisted that the "Kokhomsky shooter" had exceeded the limits of necessary self-defense, while the defendant's defense insisted that there had been no excess: the man had taken a weapon and stood up to defend his family from criminals.

        The court has put an end to the case. Aleksandr Krasnov has been fully acquitted. He has been granted the right to rehabilitation with an explanation of the procedure for compensation for damages related to criminal prosecution, the joint press service of the courts of general jurisdiction of the Ivanovo region reported.

        https://vladimir.tsargrad.tv/news/v-ivanove-sud-polnostju-opravdal-kohomskogo-strelka-aleksandra-krasnova_959473
      4. -1
        7 September 2025 22: 33
        What's the problem with stopping cursing and fighting with relatives? We have love for some relatives measured in kilometers and these are absolutely not mothers-in-law and mothers-in-law. How many more foreigners do we need to have before we understand what family relationships should be like?
  10. +19
    2 September 2025 06: 54
    26 years old. He served 7 years, so he went to jail at 19. But they couldn't put him in jail for anything, so they had to give him at least some time to prepare and commit the crimes. Moreover, according to the article, he committed them while being a member of ISIS. It turns out that these terrorist ah, forgive the political incorrectness, of course charitable Islamic organizations recruit very young people. This is the kind of arithmetic we get about the "religion of peace".
    1. -4
      2 September 2025 13: 19
      Quote: Nagan
      26 years old. He served 7 years, so he went to prison at 19. But they couldn't put him in prison for anything,

      Most likely he didn't do anything then - they gave him so little just for "participating in ISIS"
  11. +18
    2 September 2025 07: 07
    The government is to blame for this, no one else! This is how the system is built, by this government. Until the government changes, nothing will change at all. I really, really hope that I will live to see this happy moment, which will definitely happen.
    1. +7
      2 September 2025 10: 15
      Naturally, the authorities. Any scumbags, whether ISIS, Bandera, or any other, do only what the authorities allow them to do. Here in the States the other day, police simply shot a Sikh who was practicing with a sword at a crosswalk, because no way. Give our law enforcement such powers... Although no one has cancelled the excess of the executor in the US or here, it was, is and will be.
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    2. -11
      2 September 2025 13: 23
      Quote: Vadim S
      The government is to blame for this, no one else! This is how the system is built, by this government. Until the government changes, nothing will change at all. I really, really hope that I will live to see this happy moment, which will definitely happen.

      All socialist The revolutions of the 20th century occurred as a result of either total poverty, or defeat in war, or foreign occupation, or a combination of these conditions.
      You what I like the option for Russia - so that
      Quote: Vadim S
      I will live to see this happy moment,
      ??? !!!
  12. +13
    2 September 2025 07: 16
    Even ordinary citizens are accused of self-defense. According to our laws, if a bandit attacks a person, the latter should not defend himself, because the defense can be reclassified as excessive self-defense. Then in court they defend the "poor" thugs, and their victims are also punished for being beaten or maimed. The same is true for police officers. That is, if a bandit threatened with a knife, then using a firearm is an abuse of authority. ABSURD!!!
    1. 0
      2 September 2025 11: 58
      Quote: Good
      The same is true for the police. That is, if a bandit threatened with a knife, then using a firearm is an abuse of power. ABSURD!!!

      And what kind of abuse of power can there be when an official is performing his duties? Vigilance should be rewarded here!
  13. +12
    2 September 2025 07: 38
    So much indignation... Put yourself in the place of this policeman, before using a weapon he plays out the consequences in his head:
    1. Shoot the criminal - spend a couple of hours on a detailed report in which you will show that the situation falls under the required article of the Law on Police. Find witnesses willing to confirm his data in the report, convince him of the need to give evidence to the prosecutor's investigator. Spend several hours on interrogation at the prosecutor's office (most likely they will not let you go during working hours, so in your personal time instead of rest).
    2. If he doesn't shoot the criminal, the most he'll hear from his boss is what a fool he is and that's it. No consequences.
    Of the majority of those who work there for pennies today, few will choose the first option.
    1. +1
      2 September 2025 11: 13
      Why the hell do the police need them?
      1. +4
        2 September 2025 11: 17
        Quote: faiver
        Why the hell do the police need them?

        Who will you find for 40 thousand? There is no queue. Kolokoltsev himself will not go to work on the land...
        1. +1
          3 September 2025 04: 16
          I support... I thought they were exaggerating when they talked about the meager salaries in the police... I opened vacancies. I'm shocked, there really are a lot of vacancies in the agencies, and with a salary of 35-45 in hand. Well, what kind of young, in good physical shape, and they need exactly that kind, a person will go there????
      2. +1
        2 September 2025 13: 00
        More precisely, adequate people don't need police service. There are no kits there anymore. Considering that there is practically no police, we still have a low level of street crime. But everything can change quickly when the standard of living collapses.
  14. Owl
    +13
    2 September 2025 07: 54
    "they were afraid of the consequences associated with the use of violence against a migrant" - shame on the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and shame on the system of power, which for 10 (at least) years has been destroying the power structure closest to the People, importing into Russia millions of "valuable specialists" unfriendly to the native population, not repealing the long-outdated and anti-Russian Law on simplified provision of citizenship, spending billions on social benefits for those who have not paid taxes to the Russian budget for even a year, importing and breeding a "fifth column" of enemies of the state, terrorists.
  15. +14
    2 September 2025 08: 05
    Why are the police afraid to shoot migrant terrorists?

    It is not worth throwing slippers at the police. The police act within the framework of the adopted legislation, the essence of which is: step to the right, step to the left, jump on the spot, bring to criminal responsibility. He took out a "pestle", use, fired, even into the air, application. I remember there was an escape from custody in the 90s, they fired as expected into the air, twice, then at the target, did not escape, wounded. There was a howl in the press, and no matter how hard the prosecutor's office tried, but they closed the case, after all, an escape, and here they are harsh. And how many cases were there in the departments, when, at the call of citizens, they shot rabid dogs, the showdowns were something else. Let's say they did not find one cartridge case, if there were several shots, yeah, and where else did you shoot. Familiarize yourself with the legislation, talk to the police, you are a journalist, aren't you? For objectivity? And then write such articles, under such titles. Yes, and think about why such laws were adopted.
    1. +1
      2 September 2025 15: 49
      Quote: parusnik
      Why are the police afraid to shoot migrant terrorists?

      It is not worth throwing slippers at the police. The police act within the framework of the adopted legislation, the essence of which is: step to the right, step to the left, jump on the spot, bring to criminal responsibility. He took out a "pestle", use, fired, even into the air, application. I remember there was an escape from custody in the 90s, they fired as expected into the air, twice, then at the target, did not escape, wounded. There was a howl in the press, and no matter how hard the prosecutor's office tried, but they closed the case, after all, an escape, and here they are harsh. And how many cases were there in the departments, when, at the call of citizens, they shot rabid dogs, the showdowns were something else. Let's say they did not find one cartridge case, if there were several shots, yeah, and where else did you shoot. Familiarize yourself with the legislation, talk to the police, you are a journalist, aren't you? For objectivity? And then write such articles, under such titles. Yes, and think about why such laws were adopted.

      For the first time I absolutely agree with you!!
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  17. -11
    2 September 2025 08: 18
    The police officers were armed with pistols and machine guns, but did not even think of using them. No one even fired into the air.

    All police officers must be sent to the SVO - by assault...
    and the issues of using or not using weapons will no longer be discussed...
    1. +9
      2 September 2025 08: 43
      All police officers must be sent to the SVO - by assault...

      There was experience, they sent, the Chechens forgot, everyone was there, both the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Justice, and died in battles and ambushes. My classmate Timur Sirazetdinov died there, we entered together, studied together, celebrated the end of semesters together and the end of the University, sometimes we went out for barbecues and fishing together, he died in 2000 in the battle for Komsomolskoye. The title of Hero of Russia was awarded posthumously.
      1. +7
        2 September 2025 09: 02
        There was experience, they sent, the Chechens forgot, everyone was there, both the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Justice, and died in battles and ambushes
        People have forgotten that one of the first units to enter the Chechen war was the St. Petersburg OMON.
        1. +4
          2 September 2025 09: 18
          there was the St. Petersburg riot police.
          Why remember this? And even more so, to know? They try not to remember KTO and its heroes. They buried Timur at the Serafimovskoye Cemetery, almost the entire course came. When I was in St. Petersburg, I visited the grave. Yes, that's it.. I can't.
          1. +4
            2 September 2025 09: 26
            at the Seraphimovskoye Cemetery
            There are a lot more graves there now.
    2. -2
      3 September 2025 22: 15
      And you should work as a patrol policeman instead of them in an area with a large concentration of migrants, and preferably alone, for days, on foot and necessarily in uniform!
      1. -1
        4 September 2025 12: 15
        And you should work as a patrol policeman instead of them in an area with a large concentration of migrants, and preferably alone, for days, on foot and necessarily in uniform!

        I see this almost "live" - ​​that's why I write this...
  18. +12
    2 September 2025 08: 27
    With the current optimization and the law on the police, the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs themselves need to be protected. Any of their actions are considered as abuse of authority.
    1. 0
      2 September 2025 09: 36
      And I have long said that it is necessary to create Voluntary People's Squads of pensioners, disabled people and pregnant women to protect the Courageous Police Officers.
    2. +8
      2 September 2025 09: 38
      Is it because the staff positions in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other organizations that control the Ministry of Internal Affairs are inflated? They need to justify their existence, don't they? And how many generals and colonels of the security agencies with lipstick reading texts from a monitor in front of a TV camera are there now?
  19. +7
    2 September 2025 08: 29
    The government is good for nothing, incompetent and even harmful. sad
    1. -3
      2 September 2025 15: 08
      Quote: populist
      The government is good for nothing, incompetent and even harmful.

      Wow, finally someone briefly and frankly expressed the essence of their comment, and some hide this essence in verbal lace, although it is clear that they dream of how to ignite a mess inside Russia, and nothing works on the battlefield, so all hope is to create unrest. Familiar efforts. At the same time, apparently, some of the ardent "true patriots" write from abroad, bravely hiding behind a VPN, judging by their statements, which are worthy of an article of the Criminal Code.
      1. +6
        3 September 2025 05: 36
        And you can only blame? Okay, I am not writing from abroad, without a VPN... Maybe you can tell me what good has been done in the last 10-15 years?
        Medicine is in the ass, aircraft manufacturing and the space industry are there too. Automotive manufacturing? Cars are produced with disgusting quality, but they don't forget to raise prices to the sky and increase duties on imported cars under the slogan of protecting domestic producers. Food prices are also not standing still. Migrants are brought in families - if earlier in my small town they were only at construction sites and markets and only men, now there are plenty of busy women with children...
        War, oh, excuse me, SVO? There are even more questions about it, and no one is going to answer them...
        1. -5
          3 September 2025 22: 25
          We will definitely answer why you yourself do not raise medicine, aircraft manufacturing, space, automobile manufacturing? Then we would ask you these questions - why do you work so poorly and not in these industries? Just do not write that you work somewhere else, we are not interested in anything else, or why are you not at least a patrol policeman.
          1. +1
            4 September 2025 05: 34
            Brilliant answer. Can you imagine - fish usually rots from the head... And if the workers are supervised not by engineers, but by effective managers, if the state has given up on healthcare, the Ministry of Internal Affairs system and education, then nothing good will come of it. Well, a young, energetic person won't go to the district police with a salary of 30-40 thousand. And yes, you guessed it, for some reason I'm not a policeman laughing . And you, as I understand it, are also hardly from this sphere...
  20. +3
    2 September 2025 08: 39
    This article is a question for Bastrykin! Why... don't the police have an order to use service weapons, immediately and without warning, against armed migrants???
    1. +6
      2 September 2025 09: 05
      What does Bastrykin have to do with it if there is Kolokoltsev?
      1. +6
        2 September 2025 09: 20
        What does both have to do with it, if there is a law on the police?
        1. +5
          2 September 2025 09: 22
          Well, in general, yes. We know who makes the laws.
        2. +3
          2 September 2025 10: 30
          If you're interested, Fontanka has a report on the topic:
          https://www.fontanka.ru/2025/09/02/76009897/
          1. +5
            2 September 2025 10: 49
            "Some old lady calls and says that her neighbors are irradiating her or that there's a tiger hiding in her closet. If there are no more important requests, then we go check on the tiger," says the senior sergeant.

            I have analyzed so many such statements in my time that I can’t even count them, even one granny was “sent” for treatment by the satrap. laughing So nothing changes, it becomes harder to work. It was a little easier for us. For example, among the criminal and near-criminal elements, there was an understanding that it was better not to touch, shout or somehow speak out against the employees of the local department in this area, otherwise, in the event of an arrest, you can trip several times on the steps while being escorted to the dungeon. It was also interesting with drug addicts, a cherry nine drove around the area, a junkie would get in, shoot up and get out. The nine drove on. They caught the drug addict, he gave up one route, he drove strictly on the clock. They busted him anyway. He was already working as an operative. Now, everything is the same, but more difficult.
            1. +3
              2 September 2025 11: 18
              I have an 83-year-old neighbor, for the third year now they have been watching her under her windows, first under one, then under another, in the winter she was worried that they would freeze, that's how we live...
    2. +1
      2 September 2025 13: 30
      Quote: Sergey_K
      This article is a question for Bastrykin! Why... don't the police have an order to use service weapons, immediately and without warning, against armed migrants???

      1) What does Bastrykin have to do with it?
      2) Is it written on his forehead that he is a migrant?
      3) it is impossible to differentiate between the use of weapons by migrants or by citizens of the Russian Federation - it is legally impossible
  21. -12
    2 September 2025 08: 52
    Using a firearm on a busy highway to hit an innocent person with a stray bullet. Just to neutralize this scum? Author, have you read the law on the police?
    1. -1
      2 September 2025 09: 25
      Author, have you read the law on the police?
      Why should he read? If you have ever had to take part in dispersing any kind of gatherings of citizens, you should know that in such crowds there is always a provocateur who incites the public to illegal actions, incites them and disappears. The author is probably one of those.
    2. -1
      2 September 2025 09: 26
      All power to the Soviets of People's Deputies!

      Quote: Igor Belobrov
      Using a firearm on a busy highway to hit an innocent person with a stray bullet.

      You are right.

      Why don't we arm the police, in addition to a combat weapon, with a traumatic weapon, but one that can't be confused with a combat weapon? A stun gun wouldn't be a bad idea either...

      This should be a decision of the Duma, which should untie its hands in the fight against organized crime, which the diasporas are. As soon as such a representative has tried to resolve the issue, the case should be automatically reclassified into a more severe article, into an article on banditry.
      1. 0
        2 September 2025 10: 17
        Well said! If they are afraid to use firearms in a dangerous situation for citizens, let them use weapons that are safe for life. And about reclassifying it into a strict article with diasporas, a good idea, I agree.
    3. 2al
      +5
      2 September 2025 09: 40
      Do you think that the security guards in Crocus shouldn't have used weapons either?
    4. +7
      2 September 2025 10: 10
      Quote: Igor Belobrov
      Using a firearm on a busy highway to hit an innocent person with a stray bullet. Just to neutralize this scum? Author, have you read the law on the police?

      So it's a bad law. When a terrorist is essentially in a public place with a Molotov cocktail, it's the police's duty to shoot him. I understand the officers who are really afraid to use weapons, since the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs can easily make them look guilty and even join in the persecution, on the side of the diasporas. Unfortunately, there were cases, and when an officer used weapons, legally and justifiably, but these are all serious gaps in the legislation and a systemic problem. We can also add here the personnel problem. Considering the level of salaries in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it seems that it is not the best members of society that end up there, but those who are not in demand at all. In the PPS, that's true, since bus drivers have a higher personal income.
      1. +5
        2 September 2025 10: 18
        So it's a bad law.

        And in whose interests are bad laws passed? And who passes them? Probably not ordinary employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. "You can't beat them!.. You can't beat them! Bender doesn't allow it!" (c)
    5. +4
      2 September 2025 11: 21
      Using a firearm on a busy highway to hit an innocent person with a stray bullet
      - Well, yeah, let an ISIS member burn or cut someone...
  22. +4
    2 September 2025 08: 53
    our leaders turned out to be unfriendly, we have to be friends with those who depend on us, this is Tajikistan, with its millions of migrants to us...that's why they will continue to cut and burn us...everything is very unimportant for the common people
    1. -11
      2 September 2025 09: 33
      V.V. Putin is my president. He is a Bolshevik!

      Quote: Yaroslavsky
      our leaders turned out to be unfriendly

      If Putin does not want to have anything to do with the West, this does not mean that he is a "soft hand"!
      1. +6
        2 September 2025 10: 25
        Putin is a Bolshevik?) If so, then I am a hero of socialist labor)))))
        1. -9
          2 September 2025 10: 47
          There is a Russian spirit here, there is a smell of Russia here...

          Quote: Yaroslavsky
          Putin is a Bolshevik?) If so, then I am a hero of socialist labor)))))

          You have a limited understanding of Bolshevism and the Bolsheviks, fixated only on Lenin's party.

          "Bolshevism is not a Russian variety of Marxism and not a party affiliation....

          ... Bolshevism is a manifestation of the spirit of Russian civilization....

          Bolshevism existed before Marxism, existed in Russian Marxism, somehow it exists today. It will continue to exist.

          As the Bolsheviks themselves, members of the Marxist party RSDLP*(b), declared, it was they who expressed in politics the strategic interests of the working majority of the population of multinational Russia, as a result of which only they had the right to be called Bolsheviks. ...

          the essence of Bolshevism...:
          - in a sincere desire to express and implement the long-term strategic interests of the working majority, who want no one to parasitize on their work and life. ..."

          Quotes from the book: "The Judas Sin of the 20th Congress".

          Putin works for the interests of the majority of the people of Russia. That is why he is a Bolshevik!
          1. +3
            2 September 2025 10: 57
            Father, weren't all of yours shot in 1937?
            1. -4
              2 September 2025 11: 04
              Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

              Quote: Clever man
              Father, weren't all of yours shot in 1937?

              I don't know about ours, but Comrade Stalin definitely didn't finish off yours. He didn't finish them off...

              I will remind you.
              The Bolsheviks began to seize control from the Trotskyists in 1924.
              Comrade Stalin managed to disperse the International only in 1943.

              Who, when, whom and how much we look at the table:
              1. -1
                2 September 2025 15: 00
                Sorry, I don't know the difference between the different types of crap, Trotskyists, internationalists
          2. +7
            2 September 2025 11: 32
            You see, my dear... there is an opinion that he works in the interests of a small layer of the oligarchy, and crumbs are allocated to the people... and then only when something is needed from him, for example, to go and defend the interests of imperialists in another country... watch less media, think more, and try to acquire at least some critical thinking... well, just look around what is happening in a country stuffed with resources... I am sure that you do not live with dignity, by the standards of normal life, of course...
            1. -12
              2 September 2025 11: 42
              Quote: Yaroslavsky
              You see, my dear...there is an opinion...

              Glorious demagogy, you vaguely remind me of someone. From those who were here before Yes
              1. +3
                2 September 2025 12: 04
                Where did you see demagogy in polite address?) Previously here were...what kind of artistic turn of phrase is this?) You also remind me of...I won't say who)
                1. -10
                  2 September 2025 12: 06
                  Quote: Yaroslavsky
                  Where did you see demagogy in polite address?

                  In the essence of the "appeal". In form, everything is fine there.

                  Quote: Yaroslavsky
                  previously here...what kind of artistic turn of phrase is this?

                  It's more of a hint. Some are gone, and others are far away. wink
                  1. 0
                    2 September 2025 13: 17
                    We have democracy in our country, right? Didn't you know? Freedom of speech again? But seriously, did they take someone straight from here on the site and put them in jail?
                    1. -9
                      2 September 2025 13: 29
                      Quote: Yaroslavsky
                      We have democracy in our country) Didn't you know?) Freedom of speech again)

                      Are you all talking about demagogy? Well, one thing doesn't cancel the other out.

                      Quote: Yaroslavsky
                      But seriously, did they take someone straight from this site and put them in jail?

                      I don't know, they don't report to me. But I clearly see five active accounts from which no one has visited the site for a year+ Yes
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                      3. -5
                        2 September 2025 15: 21
                        Quote: Paranoid62
                        Which doesn't change the fact that you love this business... playing demagogy, I mean.

                        Yes, this "cute" talking bird is not just active here for nothing, look how cool it is, even the SCO summit was ignored regarding the "handshake", but you and I will definitely be cut and burned - get ready.
                        Yaroslavl
                        (Valery)
                        Today, 08: 53
                        our leaders turned out to be unfriendly, we have to be friends with those who depend on us, this is Tajikistan, with its millions of migrants to us...that's why they will continue to cut and burn us...everything is very unimportant for the common people
                      4. +1
                        2 September 2025 15: 26
                        they're already cutting and burning...and you're all in the world of pink ponies)
                      5. +1
                        2 September 2025 15: 24
                        I don't need your advice, and especially not your illiterate assessments) adieu
                      6. -6
                        2 September 2025 15: 39
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        I don't need your advice, and especially not your illiterate assessments.

                        request laughing hi
                      7. -4
                        2 September 2025 16: 04
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        I don't need your advice, and especially not your illiterate assessments) adieu

                        Actually, I didn't enter into a discussion with you, "my dear", you overestimate yourself too much. It was enough for me to read your comments "for evaluation". And you, sir, be well. hi
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          3. -1
            3 September 2025 12: 26
            What is the spirit of Russian civilization? Can we briefly introduce our exceptionality?
            1. 0
              4 September 2025 08: 24
              There is a Russian spirit ... there it smells of Rus!

              Quote: Kirill 59
              What is the spirit of Russian civilization? Can we briefly introduce our exceptionality?

              Read A.S. Pushkin: "Ruslan and Ludmila" -

              "...There are miracles there: a goblin roams there,
              The mermaid sits on the branches;
              There on unknown paths
              Traces of unseen beasts;
              The hut is there on chicken legs
              It is without windows, without doors;
              There the forest and the dale of the visions are full;
              There will come waves about dawn
              On the shore is sandy and empty,
              And thirty fine heroes
              The dark out of the waters are clear,
              And with them their uncle is marine;
              There the prince in passing
              Captures the terrible king;
              There in the clouds before the people
              Through forests, across the seas
              The sorcerer carries a hero;
              In prison there is a princess tuzhit,
              And the brown wolf serves her faithfully;
              There is a stupa with Baba Yaga
              Goes, wanders by itself;
              There King Kashchei wilts over gold;
              There is a Russian spirit ... there it smells of Rus!
              And there I was, and I drank honey;
              I saw a green oak by the sea;
              There was a scientist under it, and a cat
              He told me his own tales."
              1. -1
                4 September 2025 12: 51
                I thought you were talking about hard work and quality of work, like the Germans, whose production culture came from workshop production. Or maybe about loyalty to your family, like the Caucasians, whose tribal system has not yet completely decomposed. Or you are talking about loyalty to your duty, like the Japanese, who lingered in the feudal system for a while, and not so long ago they sang the praises of their samurai. And you are talking about enthusiastic fairy tales, written on the basis of Russian folk tales that the nanny told the poet. There is no need to drag in some sour patriotism with a slight whiff of nationalism.
                Although perhaps we have our own “don’t believe, don’t be afraid, forgive her” in fairy tales too, even if they are told on TV.
    2. 2al
      +3
      2 September 2025 09: 39
      In fact, we are now dependent on the mercy of Rakhmon, whether he sends us 100 thousand terrorists or 3 million.
  23. +13
    2 September 2025 08: 54
    This is because it is high time to clean out the “Augean stables” at the very top of power.
  24. +8
    2 September 2025 09: 16
    Last year, he attacked the police with a knife, they shot him without warning, Russians should take this as an example, not everything is bad in the West, there is something to learn from
    1. 0
      10 September 2025 06: 19
      And the Russian Federation shoots such people, there are videos on the Internet. It's just that these "policemen" are ordinary weaklings and cowards.
  25. +8
    2 September 2025 09: 29
    The police didn't even have traumatic weapons? Were they afraid to shoot into the air and at the legs? Apparently the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs has been sitting in their chairs for too long.
    1. 0
      2 September 2025 13: 05
      Trauma is not in service. And if an employee uses this, he will automatically receive a criminal article.
      1. 0
        2 September 2025 22: 24
        Actually it consists hi

        The PB-4SP is a four-shot model chambered for 18,5×60 mm cartridges, intended for arming certain categories of law enforcement officers. It was adopted by the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs in 2005[3] and entered service with the Moscow OMON[5]. In September 2007, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs also adopted 18,5×60 mm signal and illumination cartridges[6]. A certain number of these pistols entered service with certain units of the patrol and guard service and transport police in 2008[7], and in 2012, another 3827 pistols and 43 rounds of ammunition were purchased for the police[8]. In June 2013, another 919 were purchased for the military police[9].
        And you can use anything to prevent crime, look, some concerned citizens tore off a board somewhere and used it, repeatedly. And nothing, no articles, no stories. wink
        1. 0
          10 September 2025 06: 17
          Quote: hhurik
          , there are concerned citizens who tore off a board somewhere and used it, repeatedly. And nothing, no articles, no stories. wink

          There is a clear excess of self-defense limits and incitement of national hatred. A clear attack by Russian fascists on a peaceful, valuable specialist.
  26. +9
    2 September 2025 09: 30
    The police reform was not in vain. No matter what they say, the level of police officers has fallen.
    1. -4
      2 September 2025 09: 49
      Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

      Quote: APASUS
      The police reform was not in vain. No matter what they say, the level of police officers has fallen.

      Thanks to D.A. Medvedev, who, being president, renamed the militia to the police, and at the same time the slogan: "Serving the law, serving the people" acquired a different meaning: "Serving the people, serving the law", and our laws are passed by Medvedev's faction in the Duma, which has a constitutional majority...

      After Medvedev's re-certification, read - lustration, all the undesirable, intractable, were protected...
    2. +4
      2 September 2025 10: 20
      the level of police has fallen
      They have been reforming since the 90s.
  27. +8
    2 September 2025 09: 33
    Quote: "Why indeed? Is it because the domestic MFA does not want to spoil relations with Tajik partners?"
    .... There was no need to kiss the Koran... Listen, maybe someone should grow a "Wahhabi" hairstyle so as not to irritate their partners from North Asia?
  28. 2al
    +8
    2 September 2025 09: 38
    It is good that concerned citizens stood up for the police officers, did not let them be cut and the terrorist take away their service firearms. The video itself is the best motivation for citizens to protect themselves from aggression themselves and not rely on the state for protection, especially when faced with such in a shopping center or concert hall. It is characteristic that the Ministry of Internal Affairs officials, including the minister, remained silent and did not even comment on this situation about the "fight against terrorism" in Moscow, which speaks of personal irresponsibility and unsuitability for the position held.
  29. +12
    2 September 2025 09: 45
    Apparently, for our authorities, the life of a police officer is cheaper than the life of a bearded Tajik terrorist.
  30. +12
    2 September 2025 09: 55
    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    The fish rots from the head. The pernicious policy in the style of "whatever you want" for all foreigners and foreign citizens without exception is taking on some really ugly, inadequate forms.

    All this is very reminiscent of paying tribute, and the wording itself resembles the disguise of giving a bribe with "greyhound puppies". There is no trust in the Supreme Authority at all. Fundamentally important decisions for THEIR citizens are either not made, or are made in a false format, like with the retirement age. Lies in justifying the decisions made have become the rule. For the plebs, some Tereshkova, talks about thousands of requests from pensioners not to pay them pensions and voila. The authorities as a whole have become very far from the people and are no longer indicative for the people, but the people for the authorities. What the hell is democracy if the opinion of citizens is not taken into account at all or is distorted to the point of absurdity? The problem of migrants is only a special case. If you look deeper, you can see systemic shifts, when laws are made by those for whom they do not exist.
    Under the pretense of caring for people, ugly forms of discrimination are promoted, not only in national issues, but also in social ones. Look how traffic regulations have turned from a safety issue into a way to replenish the budget. The example of Sobyanin, who did not hide this even in an interview, was picked up throughout the country. It is almost impossible to challenge a fine, like, for example, challenging the settings of a traffic light, the arrow of which is on for 3 seconds.
    There is a complete lack of personal responsibility of officials for unfair and even illegal decisions. Courts are a separate story. Obviously unfair court decisions have already become the norm. Not everyone can go all the way to the Supreme Court, and the most unpleasant thing is that those judges whose decisions are initially illegal continue to judge people for years. Even the most hardened ones are essentially covered by the system. There are plenty of examples and this is not only about the interaction of some judges with diasporas.
    There is something seriously wrong with the system as a whole.
    1. 0
      2 September 2025 14: 58
      Bravo! I agree with every word! The system has stopped pretending and has started showing its true goals - replacing the indigenous population.
  31. +3
    2 September 2025 09: 59
    Lawlessness. The state exists only for our citizens. It does not exist for others. Why are we even holding a military coup? Maybe we should just open the gate to the Ukrainians. They will probably figure out what to do better. Although wait. We are Russia, not the Soviet Union. It sounds so proud.
    1. -2
      2 September 2025 15: 28
      In Ukrainian prisons, by the way, bearded men sit in separate corners of the huts.
      1. -3
        2 September 2025 22: 28
        I'm embarrassed to ask: what's going on with gays and lesbians in Ukrainian prisons? feel Well, since you're in the know...
        1. 0
          2 September 2025 23: 02
          I think it's hardly on topic. Wahhabi and pretty are completely different. You can't call it homosexuality when your hand involuntarily lands on someone's ass. That would be blasphemy.
        2. -2
          4 September 2025 02: 19
          I wasn't particularly interested. But since in the post-Soviet expanses "concepts" are the same, then everywhere.
      2. +1
        2 September 2025 22: 59
        I would just like to add that not only the Khachis, but also ours, alas. Also bearded.
  32. +9
    2 September 2025 10: 06
    Now this infection is penetrating new regions and negatively impacting the loyalty of new Russian citizens.
    1. -2
      2 September 2025 13: 50
      Quote: Konnick
      Now this infection is penetrating new regions and negatively impacting the loyalty of new Russian citizens.

      Ukro_tsipso skillfully uses this factor in his propaganda against citizens from new regions. And the authorities don't give a damn.....Like - it will somehow resolve itself... No.
      I am amazed by this reaction of the authorities --- the people are howling: what is going on? Where is the power and what are they thinking there.....? am Complete disregard.....
  33. +8
    2 September 2025 10: 11
    Only by introducing entry rules, like in the EU, Israel, the USA, can we stop the mega-influx of migrants from auls and villages. Only work visas, without the arrival of families and others. Here on the spot, for 15-20 years, fake passports/citizens have been issued to newcomers. It is probably unrealistic to shovel it all out. We can't find enough Hercules to clean out our Augean stables.
  34. +10
    2 September 2025 10: 42
    Then why do they give the police guns?!! Let them walk around with balloons
  35. +4
    2 September 2025 10: 54
    What if this bearded man had a Kalash, armored armor, and a dozen grenades???
  36. +7
    2 September 2025 11: 20
    The use of weapons by the police, causing harm to the health of the aggressor in the self-defense of citizens should be encouraged and welcomed (if everything is done within the law). Such cases should be widely covered in a positive connotation, becoming an example for action for some and a warning for others.
    The helplessness and toothlessness of the police only provokes even greater aggression and causes a feeling of impunity among criminals, and among citizens such police behavior causes the so-called Spanish shame and a feeling of defenselessness.
  37. +5
    2 September 2025 11: 22
    If he is bearded, and also has a knife or some other weapon, you must immediately use the weapon to avoid casualties.
  38. +15
    2 September 2025 11: 29
    The police can be understood.
    After all, it is unknown where this bearded man comes from.
    I hope I don't have to apologize to other bearded men later.
    This is how it happens now.
  39. +4
    2 September 2025 12: 22
    Hmm... Russia has adopted a lot of things from the US that are of very dubious quality. Not to mention the legal system, the status of law enforcement agencies. They also have a real ethnic hodgepodge, but none of their cops bother to catch such people. It's not that they always use firearms, their cops also widely use electroshock weapons. And here it seems that citizens will have to arm themselves with these (shooting electroshock weapons).
  40. +4
    2 September 2025 12: 37
    Indeed, why? Is it because the domestic MFA does not want to spoil relations with Tajik partners?

    Everything is very simple, even elementary.
    This is all within the framework of state policy, to bring in anyone here, and the indigenous population to the front.
    Listen to what the recent leader of the United Russia faction, Vladimir Abdualievich Asanbaev, says

    https://youtu.be/6I2fw-veitM?si=mS6NJ3I5O6nSOBGL

    By the way, in Kazan, recently a drunk Russian man had his legs shot by police, although he was unarmed and had no intention of killing anyone.
    1. +3
      2 September 2025 13: 43
      Quote: Vladislav Markov_2
      Listen to what the recent leader of the United Russia faction, Vladimir Abdualievich Asanbaev, says

      Yes, this frank interview in its cynicism - turning Russia into a sewer pit for the entire CIS caused a storm of indignation... am
  41. +1
    2 September 2025 13: 17
    Questions to those who brought tens of millions of migrants. Who organized the migrant invasion. It will only get worse.
  42. NSV
    +1
    2 September 2025 13: 54
    I'm ashamed of this Ministry of Internal Affairs, not of the patrol officers, but of the leaders who live by the principle: what if something happens!...
  43. +3
    2 September 2025 14: 36
    For 20 years in Russia
    they brought it, they came running,
    moved
    15-20 million Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz,
    Afghans, Pakistanis, Azerbaijanis.
    Armenians, Syrians and others...
    How many of them are potential...
    Trained in ...
    Having combat experience in Afghanistan,
    Syria, Libya, Africa.
    Plus they have an army of one...
    North Caucasian viceroy.
    Which also professes
    the most peaceful religion.
    And he will never refuse
    wave daggers.
    And this governor
    loves to stand up for fellow believers.
    The "fun" times are coming soon.
  44. +4
    2 September 2025 14: 54
    Such toothless, cowardly actions of the authorities towards the Asians who have come here do not cause anything but contempt for these authorities. Contempt and unwillingness to obey them. Thus, the authorities have become illegitimate.
  45. +6
    2 September 2025 14: 58
    In Israel, they would shoot someone like that instantly.
    Either passers-by or the police - whoever is closer.
    Maybe now you will understand better why
    Israel is fighting mercilessly against Jihad, Hamas, Hezbollah and other radicals?
    To avoid cases like those described in the article.
    1. 0
      3 September 2025 07: 20
      shalom haver yes we all understand and those who were not born in Moscow but on the outskirts of the empire among proud freedom-loving peoples have always known this))) how these peoples then guided the Russians and gave them acceleration
  46. +2
    2 September 2025 16: 00
    It all depends on the head of state. Singapore before Lee Kuan Yew was also a real mess.
    They started hanging everyone who violated the law even the slightest bit, despite the cries of all sorts of "human rights activists", now Singapore has some of the most law-abiding citizens and no crime.
    Where can we find our own "Lee Kuan Yew"?
  47. +4
    2 September 2025 16: 12
    What's not clear here, import substitution is underway. Slavs are being exchanged for these little animals.
    1. Egg
      -1
      2 September 2025 16: 33
      Quote: xoma58
      What's not clear here, import substitution is underway. Slavs are being exchanged for these little animals.

      Okay, we changed it, but what next?
      To get, instead of a loyal, albeit grumbling in the kitchens, but rather calm population, a crowd of uncontrollable, incompetent and illiterate bearded men, and even of a different religion - is that your goal?
  48. 0
    2 September 2025 18: 48
    Quote: avdkrd
    Quote: Igor Belobrov
    Using a firearm on a busy highway to hit an innocent person with a stray bullet. Just to neutralize this scum? Author, have you read the law on the police?

    So it's a bad law. When a terrorist is essentially in a public place with a Molotov cocktail, it's the police's duty to shoot him. I understand the officers who are really afraid to use weapons, since the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs can easily make them look guilty and even join in the persecution, on the side of the diasporas. Unfortunately, there were cases, and when an officer used weapons, legally and justifiably, but these are all serious gaps in the legislation and a systemic problem. We can also add here the personnel problem. Considering the level of salaries in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it seems that it is not the best members of society that end up there, but those who are not in demand at all. In the PPS, that's true, since bus drivers have a higher personal income.

    With truncheons against a knife! So what? If you know how to use truncheons, you can beat someone up so badly that going to the toilet will be a difficult journey for the rest of your life. And there are also gas canisters.
    1. +2
      3 September 2025 08: 00
      The main message here is: able. And also willing. And also powerful. There are many of them.
      And now the question:
      The Internet is spreading information that the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug will soon become completely green. Law enforcement officers are almost under siege themselves. Naturally, there is no time for law enforcement activities there! I want to ask who is from those places. Is this true?
  49. +3
    2 September 2025 21: 52
    I have a channel on Zen, one of the articles there is called "Country of suckers". It is about us, about Russia, yes. No one takes us seriously anymore, not even our "friends", not to mention our enemies. With all our Oreshniki and Bulavas. No one believes that Russia will respond as it should - suckers do not respond.
  50. +1
    3 September 2025 04: 25
    Without lifting the moratorium on the death penalty in Russia, nothing good will happen. It seems that this is not connected with the cited incident, but only the movement of our authorities towards the long-overdue decision will significantly ease the lives of Russians. FEAR does great things!
  51. +3
    3 September 2025 04: 31
    "With clubs versus knives: why are the police afraid to shoot migrant terrorists?" - for the same reason that Putin does not strike at his NATO partners with proxy forces! To be more specific, he doesn't have the guts!
  52. +3
    3 September 2025 07: 17
    eh, no need to rock the boat))) Vanka, if he had just thrown a potato, they would have piled it up there, but if it was a cocktail, I think they would have sprayed it with firearms, regardless of faces, it's all about the beard and the shouts, the policeman knows that the diaspora will get him later, no Investigative Committee is afraid in this case, the comrade was armed, no prosecutor would have convicted him because of the action against him, it's all about the law, everyone is equal, but some, praise be to God, are more equal, I think everyone understands why migrants are being brought in, so there will be no team, this guy on the wave, of course, will be convicted, but after the trial he will be handed over for departure to his homeland, and there he will be indecent
  53. +2
    3 September 2025 12: 57
    That in Europe there is forced Islamization and simply "Arabization", that in Russia. And the total inaction of law enforcement is not just like that.
    1. +3
      3 September 2025 18: 35
      First of all - the inaction of the Guarantor
  54. 0
    3 September 2025 12: 59
    Quote: Ru72Ru
    Then why do they give the police guns?!! Let them walk around with balloons

    to boost one's ego, of course ;)
  55. +1
    3 September 2025 15: 09
    The cops are not for the people, but from the people.
  56. +2
    3 September 2025 18: 34
    Those serving sentences for terrorism should not be released.
  57. 0
    3 September 2025 19: 03
    In many countries, the American lobby has strong control over universities associated with diplomacy, economics, and journalism.
    They also control the policies of the largest publishing houses and film companies, since they depend on the international (and essentially American) copyright system.

    And through the system of grants and participation in international (American) projects - and the majority of promising universities.

    But our country is a proud exception to this rule, we have bonds and tablets. We are above this.
  58. +2
    3 September 2025 23: 10
    Indeed, why? Is it because the domestic Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not want to spoil relations with Tajik partners? In general, they are very strict with such people there. So what kind of relations should they spoil? But I understand that until they checked him in the database, it was unknown. Moreover, questions arise. Why, after serving his sentence, did they not deport him and deprive him of citizenship? They would have skinned him alive there. Why not neutralize a person who is clearly dangerous to citizens, by any means, and then look at his passport. Then you can stop asking questions, there are no adequate answers.
  59. 0
    4 September 2025 13: 27
    The EU is in the same bacchanalia, the police are afraid to shoot a machete-wielding migrant for fear of responsibility... Even if this fruit stabs someone... Human rights activists will immediately start howling, etc.
  60. +2
    4 September 2025 18: 28
    And who in their right mind and sober memory is going to work for our authorities now? Maybe citizens and citizens who have watched masterpieces of our Russian television like Likhach, Tverskaya, Nevsky, the adventures of the next Masha Ivanova and the like. A normal person definitely won't go there now.
  61. 0
    5 September 2025 07: 38
    In the Krasnodar region, in a village, three people called 112, no one had any success for half an hour. The district police officer was not seen all summer. The traffic police will come once a week and that's it.
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  63. 0
    5 September 2025 18: 21
    Am I the only one who is afraid for the future of our children?
  64. 0
    6 September 2025 18: 34
    There is no need for terrorists against such a government. It will be overthrown by people with fake beards and penknives. And Red Square will be occupied by a battalion in hijabs with baby carriages.
    A miserable disgrace, not a power.
  65. 0
    7 September 2025 07: 49
    So what is this Kremlin dreamer a guarantor of? According to the Constitution, it seems, it is not allowed to cut citizens and policemen, if they cut, it is allowed to kill them. I wonder, if such a person shows up on Rublyovka with cocktails, will they kill him?
  66. 0
    8 September 2025 12: 09
    Fear of consequences from superiors.
    1. 0
      10 September 2025 06: 12
      There are no consequences. There are videos online where real police officers use weapons. And these guys just shit themselves out of fear... I apologize for the word "shit themselves out of fear".
  67. 0
    8 September 2025 14: 23
    "Just shoot" - you will immediately be dragged through the authorities, you will write dozens or hundreds of explanatory notes. "Bureaucracy or idiocracy" - our everything. We served, we know. In order to use a service weapon, you must know the regulations almost to the commas and so on, then ideally like a robot. Well, young people do not need problems, so a pistol is a decorative element)
    Guys, just go to the police and serve for half a year - that will be enough for you) Passed, understood, left)
    We live in amazing times - we watch and observe. Stock up on popcorn)
    Or better yet, work remotely for Americans and Koreans - their conditions are great)
    1. 0
      10 September 2025 05: 58
      Quote: Bolt
      Just shoot" - you will immediately be dragged through the authorities, you will write dozens or hundreds of explanatory notes

      So, do I have to write dozens or hundreds of explanatory notes? Which authorities will I be dragged through?
      1. +1
        9 October 2025 20: 50
        What you usually have to write right away (the first stage)
        1. Report to the duty officer/shift supervisor – verbal + written report.
        2. An explanatory statement from the officer who fired the shot – detailing who, when, why, and what actions were taken.
        3. The act of using firearms/special means is an official form that records the fact.
        4. Protocols (inspection of the scene, detention, seizure of weapons, etc.) - if necessary.
        This is the minimum - usually 3-6 documents in the first hours/day.
        What happens next (official/criminal investigation)
        5. Explanatory statements of other employee witnesses.
        6. Materials of the official investigation (receipts, reports from management).
        7. Documents of the internal security/personnel department (USB, ORCh, personnel service).
        8. Inquiries/reports to the prosecutor's office and investigative bodies - if criminal proceedings have been initiated, there will be additional explanatory statements and interrogations.
        9. Medical certificates, examinations, site inspection reports, expert opinions.
        10. Orders/instructions (disciplinary measures or justification).
        11. Additional service reports in the archives.
      2. +1
        9 October 2025 21: 01
        1. Your department (PPS, OVO, DPS, etc.)
        Where: duty station, unit commander.
        - Report on the use of weapons (1 document).
        - Explanatory note (1 document).
        - Site inspection report (if prepared by the owner).
        - Reports from partner/witnesses (1 each).
        Total: 3-6 papers in your department alone.
        2. Internal Security Department (ISD) in the territorial or district ISD of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        - Detailed explanatory note (repeatedly, but expanded).
        - Appendices (copies of reports, diagrams, photos, seizure of cartridges, etc.).
        Total: 2-4 more documents.
        3. The Investigative Committee (ICR) or the prosecutor's office; to the investigative department if there are victims or damage has been caused.
        - Official explanation or interrogation (protocol 1–2).
        - Copies of all inspection materials (upon request).
        Total: 2–3 documents, but everything can take weeks.
        4. Personnel management (HR department) at the place of service.
        - Explanatory note on the emergency (official investigation).
        - Signatures under the inspection order.
        Total: 1–2 papers.
        5. Main Directorate/Ministry (in severe cases) through the higher-ups - UMVD, GU MVD, sometimes MVD of the Russian Federation.
        - Summary report, job description, supervisor's explanatory note.
        Total: 3-5 documents, but not always from the shooter personally.
        Approximate number of documents (I haven't used them, but a friend of mine went through all of this once and explained it):
        Department (duty officer, commander): 3–6 Local Department
        USB: 2-4 Internal Security
        Investigative Committee/Prosecutor's Office: 2–3 Inspection/Interrogation
        Frames: 1–2 Service check
        Guide: 3-5 Reports Up

        TOTAL:
        Minimum: 10–12 papers.
        Usually 20–30.
        If a person was injured/killed – 50+ (checks, requests, examinations, etc.).
        1. 0
          28 October 2025 05: 44
          Quote: Bolt
          TOTAL:
          Minimum: 10–12 papers.
          Usually 20–30.

          The average student writes more in a day's lectures... But if you're recruiting for the police, where writing 30 papers is a chore, then... then we don't need that kind of police force :)
          ...So the police refused to go to Crocus, apparently because they were too lazy to write the papers.
  68. 0
    10 September 2025 05: 56
    Quote: “As a result, the aggressive migrant with a knife was confronted by police officers with batons and concerned citizens with sticks, who rushed to help the police.”

    ____It's high time to create People's Militias from pensioners, invalids and pregnant women to protect the Courageous Policemen.... Once our Courageous Policemen were the vanguard in the fight against Russ Foshshizm - they sewed Article 282 left and right. Well, that's what they fought for, that's what they ran into.
  69. +1
    10 September 2025 17: 21
    This is happening because department heads in our country have become "Ulaevs", "Galievs usamoghly". Sergeants from auls. The Ministry of Internal Affairs is going somewhere wrong! But the generals also have billions, just like the generals in the Ministry of Defense.
  70. 0
    17 September 2025 22: 01
    What's stopping a police officer from being armed with a broadsword? In old Russia, police officers were also armed with bladed weapons.
  71. 0
    20 September 2025 11: 08
    All these "partners" are not really partners at all.