New generation fighter: special operation increases requirements for military personnel qualifications

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New generation fighter: special operation increases requirements for military personnel qualifications


Universal Soldier


Much can be said about the fact that the conflict in Ukraine is atypical and does not reflect the possible realities of modern warfare. This can be argued endlessly, but the fact remains that right now we are facing the largest military conflict since World War II. And those armies that do not take into account the experience of special operations will be completely unprepared for war. With a certain degree of conventionality, of course, each military conflict has unique features that are almost impossible to predict.



In this article we will touch on a war that has not become boring drones, which everyone is talking about, but about new requirements for the training of military personnel. The updated standards for fighters have shown themselves especially clearly in the positional confrontation of recent years and have become a consequence of forced adaptation. The main feature of the conflict in Ukraine has become a chronic shortage of personnel on both sides of the front. Considering that the line of combat contact is almost 2000 km, this creates a unique situation. But it is impossible to say that nothing like this will happen again in the future - NATO armies are not designed for a protracted land conflict and are also forced to put up with a shortage of fighters. Therefore, a repeat of special operation 2.0 somewhere in Europe cannot be considered zero. But the most important thing is that the leadership of the Russian Armed Forces must quickly respond to changes in the picture of modern combat. It is possible that this will require a large-scale rewrite of the regulations and even an increase in the length of military service. If before 2022 one year in the army allowed only a conditionally sufficient level of mastery of military specialties, then after the start of the special operation this time became critically short.


The sign of the times is the virtual absence of such a combat unit as a squad. For many reasons. First, in assault operations, combat units operate in small groups of two or three fighters. This means that each group must have its own leader, i.e. the lowest tactical unit is now a “two” or “three”. The second reason is the insufficient capacity of combat equipment. Try to fit seven fighters into the troop compartment of an infantry fighting vehicle, each with armor, a backpack, weapon, ammunition, food, water, a sleeping bag and a radio station. And this is the minimum set of belongings. In the best case, four heavily armed soldiers will fit into the vehicle. Like two tactical units. Time will tell whether this will require changes in the staffing structure in the future, but for now we are just stating a fact.

Due to the fact that they have to work in small groups, the distribution of responsibilities comes into full swing. More precisely, the further expansion of the combat competencies of servicemen - especially in assault units. A soldier must be able to work with all types of small arms and, most importantly, be able to provide medical care at a sufficient level. Both to himself and to his comrade. Ideally, a soldier must compensate for the loss of that very "golden hour" of salvation after being wounded. This includes the ability to apply an occlusive dressing, and treat burns, and first aid for penetrating chest wounds. In general, it will be difficult for a soldier to survive and save a comrade only with the ability to apply a tourniquet and administer painkillers.






The fate of army snipers in the SVO is interesting. SVD soldiers found themselves in great danger on the front line. They are not able to create a high density of fire, and at a distance of 500-600 meters from the target they are quickly detected by UAVs and destroyed. Therefore, there are fewer snipers on the front line, but their qualifications have increased. The working distances are now from one kilometer and more.

The armament often includes large-caliber rifles with a significant infrastructure - wind sensors, thermal imagers, surveillance drones, and so on. This is an expensive pleasure, but even more time and money is spent on training such highly qualified shooters. In some cases, it is easier for a commander to use an ATGM crew than a sniper pair. Such is the sign of the times.

Another characteristic feature is the demand for anti-drone shotguns at the front. In some cases, soldiers prefer this weapon instead of anti-drone rifles. The latter are not easy to use, since until the very last moment you do not understand whether you have guessed the frequency of suppression or not. With a shotgun it is easier, but at the same time it requires training. And the allocation of a separate combat unit in the squad. All this must be taken into account when distributing responsibilities in small groups.

Resilience, and not just psychological


The conditions of a special military operation are characterized by an unprecedented level of psychological stress for an ordinary soldier. Neither the war in Afghanistan nor the two Chechen campaigns can compare with it. The variety of weapons (sometimes completely unexpected) and the high probability of becoming a target even at a distance from the front impose special requirements on the psychological stability of personnel. Ideally, all soldiers should grow to the level of special forces, paratroopers and marines. First of all, in the level of self-discipline. The task is non-trivial and requires a special approach.






Camouflage in modern warfare has reached a new level. Now, when the enemy can raise a high-class thermal imager on a drone several dozen meters, the ability to hide from the electronic eye is of particular importance. Soldiers of motorized rifle units are forced to turn into first-class scouts. Requirements for uniforms are increasing - clothing that hides a heat signature is increasingly in demand at the front. Self-organization, which was mentioned above, and almost paranoid concealment of traces of life. It comes to the point that soldiers are forbidden to feed stray dogs - the routes of animals are tracked by the enemy with all the ensuing consequences.

The offensive by the Russian Army can be divided into two types. The first is the capture of already completely defeated artillery и aviation positions. The second is infiltration through a sparse line of defense. In the first case, the assault is a clearing of ruins. In the second, it requires very serious preparation. Small groups infiltrate unnoticed through the line of combat contact, accumulate in the shallow rear and attack from unexpected directions. A sort of short-range sabotage and reconnaissance group.

Only special forces are used for sabotage work, while classic infantrymen go to the assault, who must be able to survive in isolation from their own, navigate the terrain well, camouflage themselves, have the skills to adjust artillery, and understand the intricacies EW and be able to physically destroy drones. It would also be very useful to have a GoPro camera on the helmet - in the future, this will allow for more effective training of recruits.




At the same time, there has been no talk of any direct support from the “armor” for a long time now - Tanks operate from closed firing positions, and infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers generally try not to appear at the front. For example, Urals and KamAZs operate at a distance of more than 30 km from the front line. UAZs and Gazelles are a little closer, at a distance of 7-8 km from the front either on foot or on ATVs, motorcycles or other means of individual mobility. Up to scooters and bicycles. And all this in conditions of total mining of paths and roads that are clearly visible from the air. Here's a question: why is a one-wheeled car preferable to a two-wheeled one at the front? Because the probability of running into a "petal" that the enemy dropped from a drone at night is two times less.

The conclusion from the above is simple - in the near future we should see several new military registration specialties, a significant revision of regulations, an increase in the terms of personnel training and, most importantly, a complete revision of the standard equipment and gear of fighters. The experience of the special operation gave us invaluable experience - all that remains is to use it wisely.
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  1. + 51
    31 August 2025 04: 41
    In order to properly use the invaluable experience of a special operation, a real revolution in the military education system must be carried out. An officer with real combat experience comes to a military academy, and there a distinguished teacher with fifty years of experience teaches him how to go into a bayonet charge, like a hero, with a song. And you can't knock this teacher out of his warm place with an axe - everyone there is only their own and holds on to each other with a death grip.
    This is in Laos of course, everything is fine with us
    1. + 10
      31 August 2025 05: 09
      Assemble and disassemble the Maxim machine gun for a while. To the song "We are the Red Cavalrymen".
      1. +7
        31 August 2025 07: 54
        It seems to still be in use... Prigozhin found a lot of them in Soledar
        1. +8
          31 August 2025 14: 04
          It seems to still be in use

          A reinforced concrete thing.
          There is a feeling that the Maxim machine gun is third on the list of "eternal" human inventions after labor and the wheel.
      2. +3
        31 August 2025 17: 32
        at "zero", on the NP-shka - an incredibly useful thing. The "oldest one I've seen" - 1929, with a sight for shooting over the crest of a hill with a heavy bullet
    2. + 13
      31 August 2025 05: 42
      Quote: belost79
      there, a distinguished teacher with fifty years of experience teaches him how to go into a bayonet charge

      Maybe so. Or maybe something is creaking and moving.
      Welcome to the club of military leaders of the Russian Federation

      Improving the training of managers and teachers...

      P.S. I am also surprised, it seems like captains, majors are normal people. But when it comes to a colonel, who is almost a general, something changes in the brain. It's good that not everyone does.
      1. + 12
        31 August 2025 07: 28
        P.S. I am also surprised, the captains and the major seem to be normal people. But when it comes to the colonel, who is almost a general, something changes in their brains.
        I think it's the same in the civil service, a person becomes a boss and that's it, they're done. Sometimes it seems that along with the appointment, a team of reptilians arrives at night and injects gasoline into the head, because of which the person suddenly becomes stupid and starts behaving like in jokes winked
        1. 0
          1 September 2025 12: 38
          An employee's career growth continues as long as he is competent in the work he is doing. The conclusion is that if there is no growth, then the level of incompetence has been reached.
          I think this is one of Parkinson's laws in a loose form, but I'm not sure.
          1. +1
            1 September 2025 13: 57
            More precisely, the Peter Principle, from the book of the same name by Lawrence Peter.
          2. +3
            1 September 2025 17: 46
            In Russia, this law does not work. Here, the most productive worker on the collective farm was a horse, but it never became the chairman. Or - whoever carries it, that's what they ride on. And career growth continues for those who never had any competence. Manturov, for example.
      2. + 18
        31 August 2025 10: 15
        Quote: SmollH2
        I am also surprised, the captains and the major seem to be normal people. But when it comes to the colonel, who is almost a general, something changes in their brains.

        This is called "negative selection." It is not the smart and brave who advance, but the clever and loyal.
        The boss doesn’t need a potential competitor; he needs a clever sycophant who depends on him and who will stupidly carry out (or rather, transmit below) his orders.
        1. P
          +1
          31 August 2025 16: 54
          modern management systems have long ago created a situation where above the head of the department there is already solid politics. In simple words: chiefs, assistants, deputies can be taken out of the gate (not far) and replaced by AI even tomorrow
        2. 0
          31 August 2025 23: 31
          Quote: Cympak
          It is not the smart and the brave who advance, but the dexterous and the devoted.

          It's understandable, peacetime generals... But war comes and they are held accountable as skilled and experienced. But where do their brains go to the big stars? Loyal does not mean stupid. So, it's all a mystery.
          1. 0
            8 December 2025 22: 08
            There is NO loyalty in the nomenklatura environment. There is only its imitation and submission (also feigned) to the strong. It is enough to remember how obedient and devoted subordinates speak about their leaders after their departure to another world.
            1. 0
              10 December 2025 02: 45
              There are also counterexamples. But the principle of "this boss, that boss" hasn't been abolished.
        3. +2
          19 September 2025 14: 23
          Quote: Cympak
          The boss doesn't need a potential competitor

          Apparently, this is the core principle of our political system. The illusion of choice for the plebs and personal loyalty replaces competence and professionalism. The problem is that this system exists at all levels. Take, for example, the Defense Minister's relatively recent visit to the troops. I respect Belousov, but when he started openly trashing Geranium-3, he "knocked the socks off." It was his aides and deputies who prepared him for it. No one explained to him that a jet-powered drone should sound like an airplane turbine, and that the sound of a strike drone is a secondary factor in swarming tactics. This small remark immediately dispelled the image of the minister "immersed in the topic," but he selected his own personnel, and the principle is most likely the same. So, Belousov is now in the spotlight; a lot has indeed moved forward, but there are nuances. I'm currently going through the registration process for my own service. There are already reminders in the form of QR codes hanging at the military registration and enlistment office. Recommendations for what a contract soldier should buy himself. I calculated it at 200, just for the basic items, not the top ones (several sets of gear, armor, a sight, boots, and small items). I also have to buy a Mavic (I have an idea) and tools, which is another 250-300 for a mid-range configuration. It's real life, and I'm fine with spending money on my own protection and gear, but the contract money won't arrive until a month later (that's what they said when I signed up), when I'll most likely be stationed somewhere in a military unit. I'm sitting here wondering: how can I buy this without freaking my family out? This is also a nuance that the Ministry of Defense simply doesn't want to see. Or rather, the problem is that they don't want the money to be in hand before the front line. They're solving some of the criminal problems, but they're creating others. It seems that this is not mandatory, but a recommendation, but the reality is that the fighters provide for their own living conditions in the LBS conditions, and the equipment that comes from the Ministry may be good, but it is not sufficient for assaults or for specialists.
    3. +2
      31 August 2025 05: 56
      And who of our generals will let us write new regulations and, so to speak, implement something new? They themselves are no longer capable of even writing instructions.
      1. +3
        31 August 2025 13: 41
        Where do our generals come from? From the same lieutenants, captains, majors. Ask how many generals died in the SVO. I think combat generals are quite capable of writing instructions. No need to tar everyone with the same brush. Generalizations are not from great intelligence.
        1. +8
          31 August 2025 13: 48
          Quote from shikin
          Generalizations are not the result of great intelligence


          To think that combat generals make decisions on writing regulations and instructions is not very smart.
          To think that simple career officers become generals is due to your ignorance of our army.

          As for the SVO, our army commander was covered with chimeras, I won’t say where. I invite you to my engineer-sapper company, but here you won’t have time to comb the generals with different combs… soldier
          1. -5
            31 August 2025 13: 56
            Thanks for the invitation. But I'll only cause extra problems. Age, health (a "killed" spine, and other things).
        2. +7
          31 August 2025 17: 35
          You'd better find out HOW most of these generals died. More precisely, HOW in reality, and not on paper. Then maybe you'll understand the level of "these combatants"...IMHO
        3. 0
          19 September 2025 14: 25
          Quote from shikin
          You do not need all to fit one comb.

          That's right, generals are different, just like lieutenants, but those who are in the military are usually not close to the court and the regulations are written by others.
    4. + 12
      31 August 2025 08: 39
      The article is not about military education in military higher education institutions, but about training soldiers.
      By the way, in a number of schools and academies, many teachers and leaders are SVO participants. They have both wounds and one concussion...
      True, there are educational institutions in the security forces where not a single one has been in combat... Unfortunately for the educational process.
      As for training the fighters. Remove the squad? It is unlikely. According to the staff, there are 8-9 people, in reality 5-6. And there is such a rank as corporal, i.e. senior soldier. Hundreds of years ago, he led small groups. What prevents the squad commander from leading one group, and his deputy from leading another?
      And to break through the defense with small groups, you need not one, but tens and hundreds of them. One group can occupy a piece of the trench at most, and that's if there is little enemy there.
      It is impossible for one person to learn all the military specialties, whether in the infantry or anywhere else.
      Mastering related subjects is, yes, possible.
      But you need to study and train throughout your entire service. Therefore, you should not increase the term of service for conscripts. Because conscripts are not needed in combat units at all. With the possible exception of cooks, drivers in support units, and similar specialists who already have a specialty from civilian life.
      The rest of the conscription is only to training centers, and after completing the service either on a contract or in the reserves.
      Well, strengthening military discipline is extremely important not only at the top, but also at the bottom. Otherwise, legal disciplinary arrest became possible only by a court decision, fortunately not the supreme one, and the means of PMCs to restore order are not always applicable on a large scale. Although in a number of sensible armies in the past, a military court was in the regiment and judged well for not particularly serious cases. Occupied a city - set up a guard! A.V. Suvorov advised.
      Anyone who knows even the slightest bit the statistics of military crimes at the present time will understand me.
      1. + 14
        31 August 2025 10: 17
        I like the logic of everyone in the comments. SVO is an example of how not to fight. This whole mess was created by the military command and the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, who have no idea about Modern Warfare. Officers and commanders who took part in this event and felt the drama of the situation on their own skin, what can they change. Their skills and ideas were formed in a senseless and backward action. What could they learn? Learn to survive? Yes, this experience is interesting. But they cannot fight in a modern battle with modern methods and think in a modern way, no one taught them. They are the same teachers and commanders who wrote Manuals and Regulations in the USSR, only they are now really fighting in the old way in a new war according to these instructions ... What can they change?
        1. -1
          31 August 2025 14: 08
          SVO is an example of how not to fight

          So how should it be?
          "Modern"?)
          You don't have to show it in person, just describe it as it should be. Very interesting.
          1. -3
            31 August 2025 21: 35
            What is modern warfare and how is it fundamentally different from past wars? I recommend that you carefully read paragraphs 15 and 46 of the Russian Federation Military Doctrine of 25.12.2014. You will be very surprised....
            1. 0
              1 September 2025 10: 03
              Okko777, and how do you personally think that the tactics of the Russian army's military operations in Ukraine correspond to the provisions of the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation that you indicated?
              1. 0
                1 September 2025 11: 46
                It does not correspond at all. And until February 2022, nothing was done at all. And after that, there were some advances, but they are not systemic and are not structurally fixed. Individual experiments in individual areas and sectors. And moreover, the question arises: what did the military leadership do and how did it implement the main document in its activities? And how should it be held accountable for this. Just one example. The 2014 Doctrine states that modern combat operations involve "massive use ... of unmanned aerial and autonomous marine vehicles ...". And this is 2014?! Service incompetence and an undistinguished pension ...
                1. -2
                  1 September 2025 15: 56
                  Okko777, I completely agree with you!
                2. 0
                  3 September 2025 23: 06
                  what pension?
                  demotion in rank and position and movement closer to zero
                  and on pension, just like a private soldier
                  in 65 years
        2. +2
          31 August 2025 14: 55
          hi
          Quote: Okko777
          This whole mess was created by the military command and the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, who have no idea about...
          The author basically gave an answer right away
          – the leadership of the Russian Armed Forces must promptly respond to changes in the picture of modern combat. It is possible that this will require large-scale
          Znamenskaya Street was not going to this war, or rather, they were not going to go at all.
      2. + 17
        31 August 2025 10: 31
        Our army now resembles a bad partisan unit, where the commander is a collective farm chairman or a foreman. He gains military experience in battle through soldiers who have different training and education. And you think that this is the main point of development of a modern army. In a normal unit and army, commanders should be taught so that they teach their subordinates to fight correctly. If the military leadership and the General Staff are decades behind, then the army they lead will never be able to conduct modern combat operations and successfully solve the tasks set. The SVO has been going on for 4 years, and it should have lasted 4 weeks. Such a huge duration of combat operations has already created such problems for us that we will not solve even in a century. This is the result that we have already received, even without having solved the tasks set...
        1. +2
          31 August 2025 15: 00
          Quote: Okko777
          Our army now resembles a bad partisan detachment...
          To be fair: I have one friend in a unit where everything is like in TV, including drones, equipment, communications..., but there is a specificity there. And another's unit resembles "an organized crime group with heavy weapons", there is just trouble and it is impossible to get through...
          There are positive examples, but again these are isolated cases, and not the systemic work of the GSh.
      3. +1
        31 August 2025 13: 50
        And to break through the defense with small groups you need not one, but dozens and hundreds of them. One group can occupy a piece of the trench at most, and that's if there is little enemy there.
        - that's the point, that in the trenches now, in fact, there is combat security. The defense is built in several echelons, and in order to break through it, you don't need hundreds of groups, but a clearly planned tactical operation with the involvement of UAVs, and artillery, and aviation, and reserves. And with the isolation of the area of ​​the operation to complicate the transfer of enemy reserves. Apparently, there are not enough forces or skills for this yet. And the enemy is no pushover either.
        1. +3
          31 August 2025 20: 15
          Yes, we need both firepower, training and UAVs, this is a well-known secret. And if we outperform the enemy in terms of firepower, including drones and artillery, in the whole complex, then success.
          But we can't do without infantry. request
          As we know, until a soldier sets foot there, the territory is not occupied, no matter how fierce the drones and artillery are, and communication cannot be completely cut off without that very foot.
          And groups, although small, are needed in large numbers in order to achieve a more or less significant breakthrough. That is why regiments, brigades, and hundreds and thousands of personnel exist, not at all to staff several assault groups.
          Over there, two battalions took part in Operation Pipe.
          And trenches are dug, and dugouts, and other engineering equipment of positions is considered necessary, although "nobody sits there." And where do hundreds of thousands of enemy soldiers "sit"? Another thing is that positions are dispersed, camouflaged based on the realities of modern combat.
      4. 0
        31 August 2025 20: 03
        2-3 people in a tactical unit, 1 is wounded, the second provides assistance, and who will fight?
    5. + 10
      31 August 2025 09: 15
      Quote: belost79
      invaluable experience of a special operation - it is necessary to carry out a real revolution in the military education system

      To do this, it is necessary to theoretically justify why it is impossible to touch the enemy's infrastructure and communications, with the help of which the enemy army is supplied not only with weapons and ammunition, but also with finances, fuel and lubricants, and food. It is necessary to justify why it is impossible to liquidate the top of war criminals. Why it is necessary to negotiate with hardened scumbags and Nazis for decades.
      Here military science is powerless. And all the "invaluable experience of a special operation" will roll down to the experience of a soldier's survival on the battlefield. For a sergeant, this is of course a necessary and good experience. But for the command of a battalion and above, you will not be able to explain the operational-strategic limitations under which entire units of our soldiers must perish to please political demagogues in Moscow.
      1. -7
        31 August 2025 09: 30
        Quote: scientist
        To do this, it is necessary to theoretically justify why it is impossible to touch the enemy’s infrastructure and communications...

        Well, to begin with - it would be a good idea for you to justify your submission. Because if "the infrastructure is not touched", then it is somehow unclear where (on a practically daily basis) hundreds of Geraniums and dozens of rockets fly off to.

        Try it, maybe it will work wink laughing
        1. +5
          31 August 2025 11: 31
          Quote: Paranoid62
          hundreds of Geraniums and dozens of rockets fly away

          They hit 20-30 objects, warehouses, small production facilities and false targets. On average, 3-4 Gerani or 1-2 missiles per object. Everything is like a textbook. But don't forget that there are hundreds of thousands of objects providing military infrastructure in Ukraine. The West allocates approximately 30-40 billion dollars a year in funding for the war with Russia. A third of this goes to the restoration and construction of military facilities. This is many times more than it will be possible to hit. Even after the Oreshnik strike on Yuzhmash, its production was restored in less than 9 months, when a new strike with Gerani was required.
          Well, just do the math and maybe it will work out. soldier
          1. -5
            31 August 2025 11: 34
            Quote: scientist
            They hit 20-30 objects, warehouses, small production facilities and false targets.

            Such a submission, as you understand, also requires confirmation. Yes

            Once again: the original message from you was that

            Quote: scientist
            You must not touch the enemy's infrastructure and communications

            You haven't confirmed this yet either. And you haven't confirmed that this infrastructure is "not being touched" either. Yes
            1. +4
              31 August 2025 11: 57
              Quote: Paranoid62
              infrastructure "is not touched" - also not confirmed

              Everything is relative. Reality is always confirmed by experience. In fact, if the damage was really serious, Zelensky and his Banderites would have been screaming and jumping on all corners long ago, agreeing to Russia's conditions from Poland or Germany. At the same time, the front line would move not hundreds of meters a day, but tens of kilometers, and the losses among Russian troops would be an order of magnitude less.
              There are quite good software and mathematical complexes for simulating combat operations. They began to be created back in the late 90s. First for the strategic forces, then for the air defense and naval forces, and after 2010 for the ground forces. If you want to really know how long it would take to destroy the Ukrainian army, contact the General Staff of the Russian Federation. They will calculate it for you. According to my calculations, no more than 15. Moreover, in the last 3-4 days you would have to look for someone who could sign the capitulation on behalf of Ukraine. Or make it simpler and extrapolate the forces and means involved in the 5-day war with Georgia and the 4-year war in Ukraine.
              1. -3
                31 August 2025 12: 02
                Quote: scientist
                Everything is relative

                Not everything. Your initial statement is quite absolute:

                Quote: scientist
                To do this, we need to theoretically justify why You must not touch the enemy's infrastructure and communications with the help of which the enemy army is supplied not only with weapons and ammunition...

                Which clearly implies that they (infrastructure and communications) are not touched.

                If suddenly you meant something else - you still have time to correct your mistake. But you don't have much time Yes
                1. +4
                  31 August 2025 12: 16
                  Quote: Paranoid62
                  infrastructure and communications) - do not touch

                  Why are you demagogues? You've laid everything out clearly and clearly. You need to be not just wearing rose-colored glasses, but a welding mask, so as not to see things that are obvious to everyone. Our troops are trying to disrupt infrastructure and communications exclusively in the offensive zone. Unlike Moscow politicians, commanders are not idiots. They understand that otherwise they will simply lay down their soldiers for nothing. In the depths of Ukraine, a single strike on infrastructure is a whole event that I then discuss for a week, there was not a single strike on communications. They only suppress radio and navigation, and only in the frontline zone. Those hundreds of Geraniums and dozens of missiles fly daily to warehouses and incomprehensible workshops. And there is not a single real confirmation that there was combat equipment or military property there. Although even the destruction of mercenaries is rare, but confirmed by the number of ambulances and medical aircraft.
                  1. -6
                    31 August 2025 13: 28
                    Quote: Vitaly.17
                    Our troops are trying to disrupt infrastructure and communications exclusively in the offensive zone

                    Hmm.


                    It is today. In Odessa region. And the railway junction and depot in Kyiv were destroyed the day before yesterday, wasn't it? Once a week, for sure. And exclusively "in the offensive zone", yeah Yes

                    Quote: Vitaly.17
                    ...there was not a single real strike on communications

                    There was no? And if I find (c)? It's a slippery slope, don't get on it, don't.

                    Quote: Vitaly.17
                    Those hundreds of Geraniums and dozens of rockets fly every day to warehouses and obscure workshops

                    Unclear to you? Just because something is unclear to you doesn't mean it's being done incorrectly.

                    Quote: Vitaly.17
                    Moreover, there is not a single real confirmation that there was military equipment or military property there.

                    You don't have one? But your position doesn't allow it.

                    Quote: Vitaly.17
                    Why are you engaging in demagogy?

                    It is you who are doing it. And the Internet entity, who for some reason called himself a "scientist". But the entity, apparently, is already a scientist, since it has already quietly disappeared Yes
                  2. -3
                    31 August 2025 14: 32
                    Our troops are trying to disrupt infrastructure and communications exclusively in the offensive zone

                    Over the past year I have been closely following the progress of the SVO.
                    Each bombing operation in Ukraine is accompanied by strikes on warehouses (and this is the infrastructure as it is) and production facilities in western Ukraine.
                    They also constantly hit airfields.
                    The eastern bank of the Dnieper is under constant attack. Ammunition falls on almost all large populated areas.
                    Also keep in mind that there are no fools in Ukraine either, and they also catch and punish anyone who films the results of arrivals on a mobile phone, saying that fewer arrived on target than actually did.
                    And, of course, not all targets in the rear can be hit.
                    Even if Geranium can fall on some plant or warehouse in the west of Ukraine, it cannot fall on all targets even in the eastern regions. There are higher priority targets that are best covered by air defense.
                    The fact that you think that it is possible to destroy some factory to zero is a mistake, the fact that you think that it makes sense to destroy some large transport hubs is a mistake.
                    1. +2
                      1 September 2025 00: 20
                      Quote: English Tarantas
                      Our troops are trying to disrupt infrastructure and communications exclusively in the offensive zone

                      Over the past year I have been closely following the progress of the SVO.
                      The fact that you think that it is possible to destroy some factory to zero is a mistake, the fact that you think that it makes sense to destroy some large transport hubs is a mistake.

                      Sorry, but one of the most important things in war is transport infrastructure. Here's an example from the past. At the end of 1944-1945, one of the main tasks of the Allied air forces was to knock out steam locomotives on the territory of the Euro-Reich. Attack aircraft (you mean long-range fighters with RS-s like the Typhoon or Thunderbolt) specifically hunted at a depth of 200-400 km for ALL steam locomotives and managed to paralyze ALL RAILWAY transport in the operational rear of the Nazi troops in a very short time. And in the SVO zone, at least somewhere at a depth of 200 km, was the railway service stopped? Trains are still running in Kharkov itself. And it is only 50 km from the LBS.
              2. +3
                31 August 2025 14: 25
                in a 5-day war with Georgia

                If my memory serves me right, the Georgian troops in 2008 numbered 4 divisions.
                Georgia also has virtually zero military production.
                It also has a near-zero mobilization potential and a territory comparable to the Tver region.
                Ukraine, in 2022, probably had the most powerful line of defense in the world, a full-fledged military-industrial complex capable of fully providing its troops with everything they need, from raw materials to finished products. Territory that is physically impossible to occupy faster than the Ukrainian Armed Forces deploy to full combat readiness. And a mobile potential that Ukraine is still squeezing out, after all the losses and half the population having fled or gone into hiding.
                You are comparing the conflict with a country equivalent to Estonia, and a country half the power of the Russian Federation itself.
                1. +2
                  31 August 2025 14: 36
                  Quote: English tarantass
                  You compare the conflict with a country equivalent to Estonia
                  The Russian forces and resources deployed in Georgia and Ukraine differ by an order of magnitude in both quantity and quality. This is solely a question of the balance of forces on both sides.
                  1. +3
                    31 August 2025 14: 57
                    It's all about the balance of power on both sides.

                    The forces of Ukraine in 2022 and Georgia in 2008 are fundamentally incomparable.
                    Don't compare a fly to an elephant. Scientist)
            2. +1
              1 September 2025 00: 12
              Quote: Paranoid62
              Quote: scientist
              They hit 20-30 objects, warehouses, small production facilities and false targets.

              Such a submission, as you understand, also requires confirmation. Yes

              Once again: the original message from you was that

              Quote: scientist
              You must not touch the enemy's infrastructure and communications

              You haven't confirmed this yet either. And you haven't confirmed that this infrastructure is "not being touched" either. Yes

              What kind of confirmation do you need? Someone destroyed at least a dozen railway depots, of which there are about 5 in the entire country? If I'm not mistaken, there was only one strike on one depot!!! And was there at least one strike on the bridges across the Dnieper? And don't tell me about the bridge in Kharkov. That's just one bridge. And there are at least a dozen of them. And was there at least one strike on the Beskid tunnel? And don't pull the wool over my eyes that there is nothing to destroy these bridges and tunnels with. I myself saw a video clip where Iskander, with one strike in the area of ​​the support, brought down the remains of the Antonov bridge, under which the Ukrops were hiding. And there was also information that the dagger, with one strike, wiped out about fifty NATO officers or generals in an underground bunker at a depth of 50 meters. It is quite enough to collapse the entrances to the Beskid tunnel. Have you heard anything about such attacks on tunnels? And on the edge of the country the electric substations of the railways still feel quite comfortable. There are not so many of them. Hardly more than two or three hundred. If these substations are destroyed the Ukrainians will have to switch to diesel and even steam locomotive traction. How many such attacks have you heard about? Or you can even redirect some of the geraniums to hunt for diesel or electric locomotives. The West will not be able to replace them a priori right away. Changing the wheel sets of diesel locomotives to a wider gauge will take more than a month of work. This is what is meant by isolating a theater of military operations, and not isolating a separate battalion or brigade standing on the defensive. But this is not HAPPENS. I don’t know why. Probably there is some kind of agreement at the top. Or the devil knows why. But the army is definitely not allowed to fight at full strength. And TV and radio broadcasting to the entire territory of the country should have ended long ago. So that the zombification would stop. And there are no funds for this either? After all, these transmitters CANNOT be hidden a priori. It is enough to launch a couple of geraniums with homing on the emitting signal like missiles against radar and that's it. There is no transmitter. And why is this not being done? In general, in this war called SVO there are a lot of oddities on the part of Russia. But the Ukrops are fighting at full force and these female dogs do not limit themselves in any way. Including the use of chemical weapons in terrorist attacks. Strikes against civilians, etc., etc. You can't fight with one hand tied behind your back!!!
              1. -2
                1 September 2025 00: 19
                Quote: nedgen
                If I'm not mistaken, there was only one attack on one depot!!!

                You are wrong. And there is no need to worry so much.

                Quote: nedgen
                Was there at least one more attack on the Beskid tunnel?

                There were, and not just one. And, by the way, I already wrote, with evidence, that specifically the Beskid tunnel (so beloved by the local people) does not provide anything significant for the supply of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

                Quote: nedgen
                If these substations are reset

                These substations are reset on a regular basis. The last one, if I remember correctly, was in Kyiv, a couple of days ago.

                Quote: nedgen
                Or you can even redirect some of the geraniums to hunt for diesel or electric locomotives.

                You will be surprised - even this is being done. And even VO has already written about it.

                Quote: nedgen
                There must be some kind of deal at the top. Or the devil knows why.

                Well, the devil is like that. He knows everything, he is supposed to. Yes
                1. 0
                  1 September 2025 00: 56
                  Quote: Paranoid62
                  Quote: nedgen
                  If I'm not mistaken, there was only one attack on one depot!!!

                  You are wrong. And there is no need to worry so much.

                  Quote: nedgen
                  Was there at least one more attack on the Beskid tunnel?

                  There were, and not just one. And, by the way, I already wrote, with evidence, that specifically the Beskid tunnel (so beloved by the local people) does not provide anything significant for the supply of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

                  Quote: nedgen
                  If these substations are reset

                  These substations are reset on a regular basis. The last one, if I remember correctly, was in Kyiv, a couple of days ago.

                  Quote: nedgen
                  Or you can even redirect some of the geraniums to hunt for diesel or electric locomotives.

                  You will be surprised - even this is being done. And even VO has already written about it.

                  Well, if trains with electric traction are still running in Krajina, it means that they are not resetting enough. And if trains are still running on the eastern shore, it means that they are not hunting for diesel and electric locomotives enough. Even electric trains need to be reset, especially when they are on reserve tracks at stations. So that civilians do not suffer.
                  Regarding the Beskydy tunnel. Have you ever looked at the railway map of the country? I don't think so. There is ONLY ONE electrified railway to Poland and one to Romania. And two electrified crossings to Slovakia and that's it!!! So don't underestimate the Beskydy tunnel. I remember very well the words of either Konashenkov or someone else that there is nothing to destroy the Beskydy tunnel, or even to damage it. laughing As someone said in the past, if you want to do something, you'll find a way. If you don't want to, you'll find a reason!!! I don't give a damn about the depot. But the guys at LBS don't give a damn when Chimera shells or 155mm cases fall on their heads. And these same ammunition are mainly transported from Poland by rail.
                  1. -5
                    1 September 2025 06: 55
                    Quote: nedgen
                    Have you ever looked at the railway map of the country? I don't think so.

                    This is your way.

                    Quote: nedgen
                    There is ONLY ONE electrified railway to Poland and one to Romania. And two electrified crossings to Slovakia and that's it!!!

                    Your map - in the studio, we'll laugh together. It's some kind of alternative winked

                    But in general - I'm too lazy to communicate with demagogues, I'm fed up with them and even more so Yes
            3. +1
              1 September 2025 06: 43
              In order to "touch" the infrastructure as many of your minus-takers want, you need to have many more means of combat.. Only not so long ago, up to 500 Geraniums began to be used. Well, and missiles are few and far between. There cannot be very many modern weapons. An example is the SAM in Israel after the Iranian strikes. Expensive, however.
              And it is impossible to completely suppress modern air defense in order to bomb with cast iron, as in Syria. And the armed forces before the SVO were only reduced.....
              But the stupid ones, who have no idea about the forces and means required, think that they can bomb Ukrainians It's easy to go back to the Stone Age, they just don't want to.
              Well, it is possible. TNAO. But, for obvious reasons, we ourselves don't want to, yes.
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          +1
          31 August 2025 17: 00
          bridges across the Dnieper, quite recently it SUDDENLY turned out that they are not under a force field and are not made of adamantium
      2. -1
        31 August 2025 14: 15
        why it is forbidden to touch the enemy's infrastructure and communications, which supply the enemy army not only with weapons and ammunition, but also with finances, fuel and lubricants, and food

        Where did they get it?
        why it is impossible to liquidate the top war criminals

        1. Do you think it's that simple? Show on the map which building this or that person is currently in. And show right away where everyone who will immediately replace him is, with possibly an even worse result for us.
        2. In general, in world practice, the destruction of the political leadership itself is considered bad manners among “decent” people and political terrorism.
        As soon as any state starts to behave like this, the whole world will turn against it.
        It is necessary that the target for liquidation either does not enjoy any support from the world community of political colleagues, or that the target first “loses all the cards” and then goes through the formal procedure of conviction and sentencing.
        1. +7
          31 August 2025 14: 30
          Quote: English tarantass
          bad manners among "decent" people and political terrorism.
          As soon as a state starts behaving like this, the whole world will turn against it.

          Tell this nonsense to the US and NATO countries. They will tell you how to properly kill the presidents of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and a dozen more countries where they changed power. Or you can discuss this topic with Israel. They can also tell a lot about the liquidation of the leaders of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran.
          1. -1
            31 August 2025 14: 53
            presidents of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya

            leaders of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran

            That's what I'm telling you)
            It is necessary that the target for liquidation either does not enjoy any support from the world community of political colleagues, or that the target first "loses all the cards" and then goes through the formal procedure of conviction and sentencing

            Yugoslavia was already just Serbia at that time. Which continued military actions against the republics that had separated from it for years, even after the whole world condemned it and the NATO coalition had already bombed the Serbian army once in 1994.
            Serbia-Yugoslavia was the last party to the conflict that did not want to recognize the actual collapse of the SFRY and continued the senseless war. Incidentally, a war with ethnic cleansing and a humanitarian catastrophe against countries that simply wanted independence.
            Saddam Hussein is not discussed at all. It's just ridiculous.
            A white and fluffy dictator who suppressed most of the population of his country, and then unleashed two wars.
            While he was "beating his own", no one cared, these were Iraq's internal affairs. While he was beating Iran, he was supported by everyone who was against Iran, because Khomeini was not loved or popular, a radical who came to power as a result of a coup and established a dictatorship of a medieval type. But then Hussein crossed the line and they remembered everything.
            Let me remind you that Gaddafi snapped at everyone in general. It is no wonder that the Americans managed to bomb him once and supported his opponents.
            But he died not from the Americans, but as a result of the civil war. He became a victim of a massacre in his own country.
            Where there is good and strong leadership, civil wars do not begin. No matter how hard foreign partners try. In a strong and prosperous country, it is impossible to rock the boat (the same applies to Syria)
            It's even funnier about Israel.
            Who did they eliminate? Leaders of terrorist groups?
            Are these the leaders of Palestine? Those who bombed Israel, dug weapons depots and barracks under civilian objects? Those who organized the intifadas? Those who, during periods of truce with Israel, sabotaged negotiations and cooperation with Israel, and while Israel somehow counted on a peaceful existence and invested money in the infrastructure and economy of Gaza and Palestine, prepared for war, planned terrorist attacks, sabotaged all humanitarian actions of Israel, appropriating humanitarian aid to civilians and disrupting humanitarian projects, bought weapons and trained fighters?
            This is the first time I've heard about the liquidation of Lebanese and Jordanian leaders. But maybe I'm missing something.
            Or do you consider the leaders of Lebanon and Jordan to be members of terrorist groups that were based on the territory of these countries with the support of or in defiance of the official leadership of the country?
            Well, the liquidation of Iranian leaders is also going there. They do not have broad support or sympathy from their world colleagues.
            When Israel decimated the Iranian leadership, who stood up for it?
            Few world leaders actually consider Iran's leadership to be among their peers among the "decent people."
            1. +3
              1 September 2025 00: 37
              What about Omar Torijos blown up by the CIA or the hundred assassination attempts on Fidel Castro? Both were dictators too. Well, okay, Fidel can be called a dictator with a stretch, but Manuel Noriega did not come close to the definition of a dictator and even more so Omar Torijos, whom the CIA blew up along with his plane, was neither a dictator nor a drug dealer. And there are more than a thousand examples of political assassinations in Africa and the rest of the world on the orders of the CIA.
              1. -2
                1 September 2025 13: 42
                You literally just now named a bunch of people who were never those same "politicians". In suits, with higher educations, shaking hands.
                These are not all people from the upper class.
                I don’t know exactly about Torrijos, it seems to me that he is another Latin American leader of some kind of guerrillas.
                As was Castro. Who, under stories of communism and justice, sent Cuban soldiers to many corners of the world, simply to fight. He is more of a fighter than a politician.
                Noriega even more so.
                Didn't you know that Noriega was the leader of a fascist group? At first, the CIA supported him to crush the communists in Central America, gave him money and weapons. He came to power at such a pace.
                But then the Americans dumped him when, firstly, he decided to tell the US to go to hell, and secondly, he was pushing drugs into the US to make money.
                As you understand, it’s not just that he screwed the Americans with the channel, but that no one will ever ask about the fascist, dictator and drug dealer.
                It's even funnier about Africa.
                You might also tell me why the Americans are not being held accountable for the liquidation of Afghan and Iraqi militants.
            2. +3
              1 September 2025 01: 47
              Quote: English tarantass
              Let me remind you that Gaddafi snapped at everyone in general. It is no wonder that the Americans managed to bomb him once and supported his opponents.
              But he died not from the Americans, but as a result of the civil war.

              How crazy do you have to be to write something like that? The Americans started the war in Libya and they bombed that country as usual. We all remember how Clinton watched Gaddafi's murder with pleasure and then jumped for joy.
              1. -2
                1 September 2025 14: 02
                The Americans started the war in Libya

                What was there to untie?
                I'm telling you, Gaddafi lived like a watchdog.
                He quarreled with everyone he could.
                Both outside the country and within.
                Despite the high economic indicators, there was a strong settlement within the country. Both in terms of income and rights.
                Libya turned out to be something between Iraq and Syria.
                When a significant part of the country's inhabitants are in poverty and they don't need such a government. The government has completely fallen out with its neighbors. And inside the country, many people are left out.
                With his inappropriate behavior and fundamental principle of nepotism, Gaddafi divided the country into several parts. It is strange that when the Arab Spring began, there was no one in Libya to rise up against Gaddafi.
                Let me remind you that in those years the whole Middle East was burning.
                Even if the US provoked all these civil wars, it did not make them. It was enough to simply set fire to them.
                As I said, in a country with a strong government, you can’t rock the boat.
                How many times have we tried? Has it ever worked?
                Clinton watched Gaddafi's assassination with delight and then jumped for joy.

                Just because she was satisfied doesn't mean she did it.
                I am sure they danced not only in Washington, but also in Paris, London, and many other places.
                Gaddafi managed to screw everyone over.
    6. 0
      31 August 2025 21: 12
      There is such a thing. They turn bronze, put down roots, grow their ego to the very sky, and put the experience gained with blood to nothing.
    7. -2
      31 August 2025 22: 01
      Quote: belost79
      An officer with real combat experience comes to the military academy

      And he begins to prepare the youth for the last war. In 10 years he will become bronzed and will not want to listen that in 2035 no one fights like that anymore.

      How? How does it fight?
      Nobody can say for sure.
      Preparing for a future war is a hundred times more difficult than preparing for the previous one. /Especially if you are not going to fight with anyone./ And what is needed and what is completely unsuitable can only be shown by the high-intensity war itself.

      So, we don't expect any grand reforms. The SVO will end and we will continue to lay snow square and perpendicular, so that it pleases the eyes of the bosses.
    8. 0
      1 September 2025 09: 30
      This is a person who has 50 years of experience in Afghanistan, he could have fought, combat experience too. Back then, the army was at least an order of magnitude, if not several orders of magnitude, stronger than it is now. Yes, and experience can become obsolete, and quickly.
    9. 0
      6 September 2025 09: 49
      The film "Afghan Breakdown", if anyone remembers. How one lieutenant, just out of school (and the son of a general), during an attack by spirits on a caravan, trying to rouse the fighters to attack, in the style of "a la 41st", immediately received a bullet in the chest from a sniper... It seems stupid. But that's how he was taught...
  2. + 14
    31 August 2025 04: 55
    The author concludes that the service life and quality of personnel training should be increased. If you really train personnel and don't engage in profanation, then a year will be enough. Young people today are more literate in electronics and gadgets. We also need to introduce pre-military training, like in the 30s. It was the Voroshilov Strelkov and GTO movements that produced results - German officers noted the good training of Soviet soldiers. We need to revive DOSAAF and other organizations, build shooting ranges and organize clubs. This is not the case today. And as for SVO-2 in Europe, God forbid, no one will mess with us there.
    1. +2
      31 August 2025 05: 10
      To implement Stalin's experience in training young people, so to speak.
      1. 0
        31 August 2025 05: 44
        You can take Stalin's, or you can pay attention to the training of the German officer corps a hundred years ago or more. It is unique and worthy of interest.
      2. -1
        31 August 2025 06: 30
        Are you, sir, by any chance a Yugoslav? hi
      3. P
        0
        31 August 2025 17: 04
        a pioneer organization of the 192X-193X type would certainly have caused a stir, but I'm afraid the ruling class wouldn't like it
      4. 0
        31 August 2025 21: 30
        Do you mean Anton Semenovich Makarenko?
        1. -1
          7 September 2025 21: 30
          Anton Semenovich Shpak.
    2. +2
      31 August 2025 05: 55
      Quote: fiberboard
      It is also necessary to introduce pre-army training, according to the model of the 30s of the last century. It was the "Voroshilov Strelkov" movement and the GTO that gave results - German officers noted the good training of Soviet soldiers


      OSOAVIAKHIM hi
      1. 0
        31 August 2025 06: 22
        Well, there were also minuses in Stalin's thirties, "random passengers" went there for prestige and money. A graduating lieutenant there would immediately earn good money
        1. +4
          31 August 2025 06: 32
          Quote: SmollH2
          "Random passengers" also went there for prestige and money


          Nobody is perfect, but OSOAVIAKhIM prepared young people for the front en masse and made an invaluable contribution to the Great Victory!
          1. 0
            31 August 2025 23: 26
            In no way against OSOAVIAKHIM. Or DOSAAF. Their merits are invaluable.
        2. +1
          31 August 2025 08: 04
          Quote: SmollH2
          There, a newly graduated lieutenant immediately earned good money.

          It wouldn't hurt today's lieutenants either!!
          1. -1
            31 August 2025 12: 03
            Quote: Egoza
            It wouldn't hurt today's lieutenants either!!

            Serdyukov insisted on this at the time. A military man should only do military work for good money, and not sit out his military pension. But there was a demand for money, service was required. That's why he was fired, generals from the Arbat Military District still cringe at his name.

            By the way, the war of 8.8.8 is very different from the SVO, despite some mistakes, Serdyukov's army worked perfectly.
            1. +4
              31 August 2025 12: 22
              Serdyukov's army worked excellently.
              Marshal Taburetkin had nothing to do with this war. He was transporting the furniture of his office to St. Petersburg (there was an order to transfer the Ministry of Defense there). Everything was done by the 58th Army, which was then located in the Caucasus.
              1. -4
                31 August 2025 12: 50
                Quote: Aviator_
                Everything was done by the 58th Army, which was then located in the Caucasus.

                Yeah... I did it myself... Without the knowledge and consent of the Minister of Defense and the General Staff. fool
                1. +1
                  31 August 2025 12: 58
                  Yes. Since our peacekeepers were shot by the Georgians, the decision was made by the duty officer of the 58th Army. And there was no data on the location of the Georgian air defense, this explains our initial losses in aviation. The 58th Army could not know this.
                  1. 0
                    31 August 2025 13: 13
                    Quote: Aviator_
                    Yes. Since our peacekeepers were shot by the Georgians, the decision was made by the duty officer of the 58th army.

                    Exactly! And the duty officer made the decision because he was given such authority. And the exercises were conducted in a timely manner, taking into account such a need. Because the army was focused on the result, on the war. In Shoigu's army, this became impossible, only reports and show.
                    1. +2
                      31 August 2025 13: 54
                      Exactly! And the duty officer made the decision because he was given such authority. And the exercises were conducted in a timely manner, taking into account such a need. Because the army was focused on the result, on the war.
                      Did Taburetkin need a result? He didn't need anything at all except optimization. It's in vain that you defend this section manager of Lenmebeltorg.
                    2. +3
                      31 August 2025 17: 10
                      So, before Taburetkin, the duty officer never had such powers? It is his direct responsibility to raise the army in case of a direct attack, without calling the Ministry of Defense.
                      1. -1
                        31 August 2025 21: 33
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        So, before Taburetkin, the duty officer never had such powers? It is his direct responsibility to raise the army in case of a direct attack, without calling the Ministry of Defense.

                        Are you really that naive? "Don't give in to provocations" - that's the first and main order for the duty officer. The fact that the 58th moved divisions to the tunnel without waiting for confirmation from the Kremlin is a miracle. The reason was both the exercises conducted by Serdyukov immediately before the start of the war on 8.8.8/XNUMX/XNUMX and the confirmed authority of the military to make decisions in the event of a delay in instructions from the Kremlin. And note that the military trusted their minister at the time, they didn't act stupid and call back for three days.
        3. 0
          31 August 2025 08: 42
          Quote: SmollH2
          There is a graduated lieutenant I earned good money right away

          And with the shoulder straps they issued a shovel with which you could rake in money...
          Military rank "Junior Lieutenant" In the Armed Forces of the USSR, it was introduced on August 5, 1937, as an addition to the 1935 decree of the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars on the introduction of military ranks. Previously, in the Armed Forces of the USSR the title was awarded to graduates of secondary specialized educational institutions, in wartime - to graduates of accelerated officer training courses. Petty officers awarded the Order of Glory of all three degrees were also entitled to be awarded the military rank of junior lieutenant.
          1. -1
            31 August 2025 23: 55
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And with the shoulder straps they issued a shovel with which you could rake in money...

            It's sarcasm?
            In the late 1930s, the average salary was about 300 rubles. Doctors or teachers could earn one and a half to two times more, if they were good specialists. And general workers and tractor drivers earned more than two times less.

            Quote: Book "Fathers-commanders"
            Since the graduation of the second-year students of the school was to take place on the May Day holidays, we were sent home to return at the end of April for the beginning of school. I was greeted with joy at home and at work. My father and mother understood that service was inevitable. I explained that as a cadet I would receive 40 rubles a month at the school, and upon graduation the minimum initial salary would be 600 rubles. Even this money seemed enormous, since teachers in the senior classes received no more than 400-500 rubles with a full workload and an institute diploma.

            If this is sarcasm, it's a strange one.
            1. 0
              1 September 2025 03: 56
              Quote: SmollH2
              It's sarcasm?

              What did you find strange about it? A shovel?
              In the 90s, if my memory serves me right, there was a story on TV about an officer from the Arctic. There he went up to a barn, opened the door and took out a shovel with the words: "And here is that famous shovel with which we rake in money..."
              I explained that as a cadet I would receive 40 rubles a month at the school, and upon graduation the minimum starting salary would be 600 rubles. Even this money seemed enormous, since teachers in the senior classes received no more than 400-500 rubles with a full workload and an institute diploma.

              I didn't get to serve in the 30s - probably the officers lived better than the teachers there. After graduating from college, my salary was 220 rubles, and I received 187 in hand... At that time, a bus or trolleybus driver could earn 250-350 rubles, and miners at the open pit earned up to 450 rubles...
              But we need to fight humor, because it’s no good!!!
              1. 0
                1 September 2025 06: 02
                We were talking about service in the thirties. There's no point in talking about it later...
    3. +5
      31 August 2025 11: 00
      What other shooting galleries? If you fart in the wrong place, Khinshtein and his comrades will come running and pass another ban.
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      +2
      31 August 2025 17: 02
      You won’t be able to explain to a conscript in a year or ten years that he, who studied and received treatment in the Russian Federation, owes something to someone.
      1. -2
        31 August 2025 20: 16
        Well, my son served in the Russian army and there were no questions about whether he "owed" or not.
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          +1
          31 August 2025 20: 18
          Why, what did he want from this step?
          1. -1
            31 August 2025 20: 20
            what I wanted is a third thing - they called me up - I served honestly at the Mirny Cosmodrome - I returned home without hysterics.
  3. +1
    31 August 2025 05: 50
    It would also be very useful to have a GoPro camera on the helmet - in the future this will allow for more effective training of recruits.

    It's risky...if it falls into enemy hands, it will give them information about our soldiers, their location, tactical techniques, equipment and much more...access to the video must be encrypted from the outside. what
  4. +7
    31 August 2025 06: 13
    Quote: lubesky
    OSOAVIAKHIM
    Nowadays, it is expensive to participate in such societies, you have to pay for everything. Unlike the Soviet DOSAAF, where everything was free and where I got my first "ticket to life"
    1. +3
      31 August 2025 07: 48
      It is possible to stimulate valuable specialties with the help of such classes. For example, radio engineers, mechanics, robotics, doctors, etc.
      You prepare for several years, when you come to the army you pass an exam and have the right to reduce the term of service by several months. This will be very motivating. For especially valuable specialists, more advantages can be provided. As a result, it becomes possible to prepare them well.
      1. +2
        31 August 2025 10: 40
        Quote: ycuce234-san
        It is possible to stimulate valuable specialties with the help of such classes. For example, radio engineers, mechanics, robotics, doctors, etc.
        You prepare for several years, when you come to the army you pass an exam and have the right to reduce the term of service by several months. This will be very motivating. For especially valuable specialists, more advantages can be provided. As a result, it becomes possible to prepare them well.

        It won't work that way. There is a certain training cycle in the army: training - coordination of units - exercises.
        Besides, truly valuable specialists will not join the army: why should they lose their qualifications, money, time?
        1. 0
          31 August 2025 12: 48
          I meant the acquisition and honing of technical and professional skills that require many, many years to acquire and that are also in demand in civilian life - a doctor or radio engineer or roboticist are valuable there too.
          But the specifics of the army and navy in the form of coordination and exercises should remain in army life; almost ready specialists will undergo them.
          Some specifics can be mastered by those who wish in civilian life, for example, diving or shooting, mountaineering, cynology. And so there are similar areas among fans of such activities of shooting clubs or divers, etc. Here it is logical to give tax benefits to organizations that contain such public associations or are engaged in business in this area and create investment programs in this area of ​​the economy.
        2. 0
          31 August 2025 20: 19
          Oh well - I was in the naval school with a group of comrades, I went through training in DOSAAF - Morse code, semaphore - and without any training after being drafted we were sent to surface ships
    2. +2
      31 August 2025 08: 07
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Nowadays, it is expensive to participate in such societies; you have to pay for everything. Unlike the Soviet DOSAAF, where everything was free.

      Such organizations should be free and state-owned if the state wants to take care of its reserves for the army.
  5. + 11
    31 August 2025 06: 21
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    Nowadays, it is expensive to work in such societies; you have to pay for everything.

    There are too many prohibitions now...this is not allowed, that is not allowed, and fines, fines, fines...this only slows down progress in the country.

    .
    1. +3
      31 August 2025 08: 44
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      This only slows down progress in the country.

      But it completely kills initiative... Yes
  6. + 16
    31 August 2025 06: 30
    There is only one conclusion - those who started "a very strange military operation" must admit that this is War. And start fighting, and not "joking" with other people's lives.
  7. +1
    31 August 2025 08: 46
    The author wrote a necessary and useful article, but it is not "our everything"! The situation "requires" that a modern and effective attack aircraft ("soldier") be a universal fighter, a "super-class" military specialist! And for this, not only long-term and constant (and expensive!) training is necessary; but also even abilities! Intellectual and psychological qualities of a fighter! Where can we recruit and prepare so many for a modern war? The necessary "super-soldier" becomes the most valuable military "asset"! Losing such an "elite" "for trifles" is too expensive! Hence, we will have to draw conclusions and change the structure, organization of ground forces! I. Separation of combined arms units into stormtroopers and "ordinary" infantry, as it was in ancient times (when there were elite heavily armed "hoplites" and various auxiliary infantry "velites"!) II. Mass introduction of "droids" (RTK)! "Unmanned" and with AI! As a "variation" - "cyborgs"; i.e. stormtroopers in powerful, well-armed exoskeletons-"armor" (as shown in the series "Lieutenant Marsh's Platoon"...)!
  8. +1
    31 August 2025 09: 08
    If this is so, then the databases will be maintained in a completely different way, and most importantly, by MEANS.
    Therefore, a repetition of special operation 2.0 somewhere in Europe cannot be considered zero.
  9. +1
    31 August 2025 09: 23
    There are military schools, graduates of which have very little or no involvement in the SVO, but the specifics of the service require taking into account the experience our army is currently receiving. These are, for example, submariners, strategists or space.
  10. +5
    31 August 2025 11: 03
    The higher the demands on a simple soldier, the more the contradiction between a professional and a conscript army becomes apparent.
    For a professional, the value and satisfaction of his work is important, motivation is needed, and not only material, rights are needed that complement increased responsibilities.
    Now the conscript is in a "non-free" state, the army does not even trust him to shave a loaded weapon (a striking difference from the Israeli conscript, to whom our apologists of conscription like to refer). It is difficult to trust the current conscript with high-tech expensive equipment (from the experience of the beginning of the SVO, when various high-tech goodies of an entire unit were found, assembled in the command vehicle).
    The solution is to start paying conscripts an adequate salary + a system of bonuses and fines + financial liability for the fighter.
    Well, if you want to have a conscript army, like in Israel, then you need to do it like in Israel.
    1. P
      -2
      31 August 2025 17: 09
      If there is a salary, why forced conscription?
      1. -2
        31 August 2025 18: 34
        Quote: Pandemic
        If there is a salary, why forced conscription?

        As the SVO showed, professionals quickly run out, and then it became clear that partial mobilization was not a solution.
        A radical reform of the conscription system is needed to create a motivated reserve for the army
        But as long as the state is afraid of its citizens with guns, this will not be achieved.
        1. P
          +1
          31 August 2025 18: 39
          motivated?))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) after the pension reform, repeated devaluations, the destruction of education, medicine, science, after it became necessary to buy a car, I don’t know who else, 2 more of the same, the question arises: in which direction will the weapon of the “motivated reserve” who did not plan to serve in the army be pointed?
          1. 0
            31 August 2025 18: 42
            Quote: Pandemic
            the question arises: in which direction will the weapons of the "motivated reserve" be facing?

            That's why they are so afraid of the "man with the gun"
    2. -1
      31 August 2025 18: 52
      Quote: Cympak
      Now the conscript is in a "not free" state

      ... I'm going to burst into tears right now. To teach them order and obedience - at the very least, for this we need to call now.

      Quote: Cympak
      The solution is to start paying conscripts an adequate salary + a system of bonuses and fines + financial liability of the fighter

      Damn... what exactly, tell me, are you going to pay a conscript who came to serve a year for? Well, I'm just extremely curious...

      Quote: Cympak
      if you want to have a conscript army like in Israel, then you need to do it like in Israel

      It won't work. In Israel, there is a different attitude towards the army, there now, as it was once in the Soviet Union - "whoever hasn't served, is not a man"... and not a woman, by the way - there are girls serving there too. And such a person who hasn't served has many things unavailable in life, in comparison with someone who has.

      If you do this, you will be "like in Israel". And not right away, but much later...
    3. +3
      1 September 2025 00: 03
      First of all, if you want, you need to do it like in Israel, so that everyone serves.
      And not like ours. Rich kids and children of the rich don't serve, gypsies and Asians don't serve.
      And the typical conscript now is a guy from a poor family or village.
  11. +6
    31 August 2025 12: 16
    A fabulous article. The author himself seems to guess, it is difficult to find a fighter in the photographs in the article. In reality, it is the other way around, 14 days of preparation and off you go. In today's reality, what has changed is the ratio of front-line fighters and support. Now there are no more than 20-25 percent in the front, the rest are SIGINT, EW, communications, transport, artillery, UAVs, etc. Moreover, the requirements for the qualifications of this "support group" are constantly growing. And the task of the attack aircraft is to survive and get to the designated position more or less intact.
  12. +5
    31 August 2025 12: 36
    In the article, the author writes about the emergence of a grassroots unit of three people...
    Let's remember that this is how it was in RIA - a grassroots unit of three people - link - two privates and a commander corporal, shoulder strap with one stripe
    In the Red Army from 1923-35 there was no rank of corporal, but there was link - flight commander, collar tab with one triangle.
    hi
  13. +1
    31 August 2025 13: 15
    None of the best armies in the world can train, as you put it, "classic soldiers" in the context of training "special forces soldiers".
    It's an idyll.
  14. +1
    31 August 2025 16: 08
    The most important thing is that the leadership of the Russian Armed Forces must promptly respond to changes in the picture of modern combat. It is possible that this will require a large-scale rewrite of the regulations and even an increase in the length of military service.

    With the current system of training conscripts, it is not entirely clear what this conscription service is needed for. It is not intended to involve conscripts in combat operations. To create a mobilization reserve? About 60-70 percent of the fighters I met in the SVO did not serve their conscription. 90% of the knowledge and skills that were useful in the LBS were obtained either in training centers, where the instructors were from the Wagner PMC, or in civilian life, and the knowledge and habits acquired during conscription turned out to be more harmful than useful.
    1. P
      +2
      31 August 2025 17: 12
      The only product that is actually produced without interruption in the draft scheme is obedience.
      1. 0
        28 November 2025 15: 50
        ...or the ability to mow and score correctly...
    2. 0
      1 September 2025 00: 09
      Even now there are types of services that are indirectly connected with the air defense system - submariners, space, long-range aviation, rear services, communications and much more.
      And not everyone serves now, but only every fourth. Which just happens to be in line with your percentages.
      1. +1
        1 September 2025 11: 41
        I agree with you. In addition, it makes sense to completely transfer a number of branches and types of troops to a contract basis. An example is the ship's personnel of the Navy. After a year of service, a sailor taken "from the street" is not even able to be trained in the rules of personal safety, which is why there are so many accidents in the Navy. In the USSR, they served in the Navy for 3 years, even earlier - 5, even earlier - 7, and always more than in the ground forces. That is why the level of training and technical literacy in the Navy was a cut above that in the "infantry". Moreover, the contract for enlisted personnel on surface ships should be at least 5 years, and in the submarine fleet 7-10. No less than six months of training in the specialty. And preference in recruitment should be given to those with experience in the merchant / fishing / river fleets. Salary and social benefits should also motivate.
        1. 0
          1 September 2025 18: 26
          To be honest, I don’t know which scheme is better...
          1. 0
            1 September 2025 18: 31
            One that will provide the armed forces with a permanent supply of qualified personnel.
  15. +1
    31 August 2025 16: 10
    how much money was invested in the army, that's how much they fight (it's clear as day that it's more fun to drop bombs from an aircraft, a UAV would be a real supersword(( you dropped a tactical neutron and collect the carcasses, it doesn't fly, what's the good intelligence? so get rid of these Poseidons and Reapers over the Black Sea, the US won't go to war with a nuclear weapon anyway, the fortifications should have been burned out with tactical charges a long time ago, they went underground, launch a Berlaga)) then, of course, they'll get tired of ordering combat gas, and the fighters in the OZK are useless, all the advantages that the Sumerians have can be nullified in a jiffy, but that would be a different story, if they hadn't started with orchestras and columns, they would have already been catching whatever was floating in the yew and munching sunflower seeds from the Goverla
  16. 0
    31 August 2025 16: 30
    Quote: Vitaly.17
    Quote: Paranoid62
    infrastructure and communications) - do not touch

    Why are you engaging in demagogy? :-)))
    Carve in stone:
    "You need to be not just wearing rose-colored glasses, but a welding mask, so as not to see things that are obvious to everyone. Our troops are trying to disrupt infrastructure and communications exclusively in the offensive zone. The commanders, unlike Moscow politicians, are not corrupt creatures who sit on welfare from affiliated structures of the State Department."
    They understand that otherwise they will simply lay down their soldiers for nothing. In the depths of Ukraine, a single strike on infrastructure is a whole event that is then discussed for a week. Although even the destruction of mercenaries is rare, but confirmed by the number of ambulances and medical aircraft.

    + 100 / 500
    It's like that.
    And why yesterday in the city of Chernomorsk a carriage was melted and who should answer for this, I will tell you.....
    1. -4
      31 August 2025 16: 48
      Quote: Shiry Prapor
      Why did they melt a carriage bogie in Chernomorsk yesterday and who should be held responsible for it?

      As we see, you have learned to write. Now learn to read:

      In particular, the night "Geraniums" struck the railway ferry complex, as a result of which the equipment and trains were completely destroyed. This facility was critical for the logistics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and ensured the prompt unloading and distribution of military cargo through Chornomorsk. At the time of the strike, there were no military trains on the territory of the complex, but freight trains and handling equipment were hit.

      Russian kamikaze UAVs destroyed and disabled several railway flatcars and covered freight cars located on sidings. The resulting fire damaged the bogies and partially melted the metal structures. In addition, The winch mechanisms for feeding trains and the hydraulic ramps of the ferry berths were damaged, the destruction of which made it impossible to operate the complex without major repairs

      There is more... after you finish reading, come back and see if you still have questions.
  17. +1
    31 August 2025 17: 13
    It would be much more interesting to read about the new generation of command staff. How about they "manage things wisely".
  18. +3
    31 August 2025 17: 47
    Here's a question: why is a one-wheeled car preferable to a two-wheeled one at the front? Because the probability of running into a "petal" dropped by an enemy drone at night is two times lower.
    I've never had to push a cart through a minefield, but I'd rather have that Petal explode under the wheel than under my foot.
  19. -1
    31 August 2025 18: 57
    A fighter must be able to work with all types of firearms and, most importantly, be able to provide medical assistance at a sufficient level.
    Ideally, all fighters should grow to the level of special forces, paratroopers and marines.

    This is a very correct, but unfortunately unrealistic desire of commanders of all times and all armies of the world, to have an unlimited number of highly professional and experienced soldiers...

    There are several assault battalions and companies in the engineering troops, but this is a drop in the ocean...
    In order not to lose the experience accumulated by the blood of tens of thousands of fighters, it is necessary to radically change the system of training the army reserve.
    If a conscript spends at least six months in training centers during the year and studies according to the methods that are currently used to prepare fighters for the SVO, then he will be at least no worse than marines and paratroopers.
    The instructors in these centers should not be "YouTube experts" or snotty sergeants, but fighters with significant combat experience in the SVO and other conflicts...
    It is easier to spread such experience in territorial defense units than in the army environment, where a "close-knit team of officers" would be better off marching conscripts for a whole year and forcing them to learn regulations because that is how they were taught in military school and they do not know anything else...
    We will have to "break" the entire officer corps, starting with the General Staff and ending with the lieutenant - a graduate of a military school/institute....
    It is not clear who will do this...
    The authorities are doing everything they can to slow down the creation of territorial defense regiments and brigades in the regions of Russia, because they are very afraid of giving people weapons, but it is the veterans of the SVO who would become the support and backbone of these units, and it is they who would become the teams that would pass on the invaluable experience that they themselves received in the SVO...
    1. -1
      1 September 2025 18: 11
      In many ways, it's nonsense. Your terrorist defense will drink like crazy. If you kick them out, you'll be left with 2-3 fighters from the platoon...
      1. 0
        2 September 2025 05: 14
        Stranger..
        Your terrorist defense will drink like crazy. If you kick them out, you'll be left with 2-3 fighters from the platoon...


        Everything will depend on the terms of the contract; alcoholics and hard-drinkers will be weeded out in the first months as unnecessary chaff...
        Let only those who are motivated to learn how to fight for real remain, because only such people can be taught and trained to become excellent fighters.
        Those who came by force or to "sit out" from prison and other problems will never be taught anything worthwhile, they have a complete indifference in their heads to everything except eating and sleeping...
        This is what the current conscript army looks like, regardless of position and rank, soldiers are waiting for demobilization, and officers for pensions...
        No one cares about real combat training and learning new methods of warfare, it is not written about in the regulations and it is not required at the exercises, they marched in formation singing, shot at targets at the training ground, made a forced march of 3-5 km and returned to their native barracks...
        1. -1
          3 September 2025 00: 35
          ... and we get the USSR army in its fundamental form: the best are in the airborne forces, the landing force, the marines, the nuclear forces, the security of secret facilities, the aviation, the navy. The MS, tankers, and artillery are left with nothing but a fig and a raspberry. About communications, chemical troops, engineering - only jokes...
  20. +2
    31 August 2025 19: 47
    So what the hell, give the equipment to the squad with all the ammunition, and its dense cover, now the staffing schedule of the platoon for 6 squads or something. All this is not done because life is good, but in fact due to the lack of equipment and cover, it seems to be a war. And we have exercises in Belarus, I remember how hastily we left Kharkov, and in the Far East there are exercises...
  21. 0
    31 August 2025 21: 01
    In the second year, a conscript becomes a competent, stress-resistant and skilled fighter and a good specialist.
    1. P
      0
      8 September 2025 19: 28
      Literacy and sustainability should be taught in school
  22. 0
    1 September 2025 01: 20
    Quote: Paranoid62

    There is more... after you finish reading, come back and see if you still have questions.

    Ha ha
    I won't come.
  23. -1
    1 September 2025 18: 07
    These are some open secrets. Let me remind you that in order to be sent to Afghanistan, conscripts had to undergo a mandatory 6-month course, and officers - a 3-month course.
    The guys and I were shocked when we came to the troops, and there Demobilized soldiers cannot attach a magazine to a machine gun. And this is in the USSR... With 2 years of service. Regiments covering the state border.
  24. 0
    3 September 2025 05: 38
    Quote: belost79
    To wisely use the invaluable experience of a special operation

    It is necessary to make the bearers of this very experience responsible for generalizing the experience and preparing the LS. But for this it will be necessary to throw out the "honored" ones from the academies and the like. Will the current high command, which itself does not have this experience and therefore does not consider the veterans of this war as its own, go for this? Oh, I don't think so...
  25. 0
    4 September 2025 00: 21
    Reading the comments...
    And you think how smart everyone is here.
    The advice they give is, well, at least
    to the General Staff of Mozambique
    they'll all be generals
    to set positions. All of them.
    Only give advice
    sitting on the couch, they can do everything.
    And tell them, come.
    to us in Bogatyr, or
    in Komar...
    You'll go to the fortification...
    You'll sit in the forest camp for a week.
    without communication, under Baba Yaga.
    No, there are a ton of excuses right away.
    Sick, old, back hurts,
    my legs hurt, commission
    I won't pass....
    No, I'd rather fight on the couch.
    This is how we fight.
    Someone in the forest,
    or in ruins.
    And someone is at home on the couch.
    And those who are here... they are from
    your advice at all
    not at all, not hot and not cold.
    1. -1
      5 September 2025 23: 49
      Or you may not read our comments, but... when I show up in the trenches at seventy-two years old with the stars of a colonel, I would really like to see the delight of what a new addition to your battle face of a true hero.
      Before occupying the sofa, many of those present had gone through their own wars and each of them had its own "charm". There will be the next "SVO" and exactly the same, but someone will express their FE to you, because in the new situation, in the opinion of the opponent, you do not understand shit.
      1. +1
        12 September 2025 19: 26
        Well, I'm 50+, in my sixth decade.
        And a veteran of the BD for the third time.
        And somehow it's okay, I'm running
        together with the young
        forest rangers, from drones
        we're hiding.
        And the fact that you are a colonel, and like
        I've been through more than one war...
        So I came to the military registration and enlistment office myself,
        from stock. And I also have stars.
        But they don't mean anything here.
      2. -1
        31 October 2025 00: 21
        Colonel, what good are you in the trenches for at 72?! War is for the young. It's tough here at 45, without any enthusiasm... There's one writing up there, in his fifties, running around with the young ones. A DREAMER. He's running around, the croaker...
  26. 0
    5 September 2025 15: 01
    In general, has anyone noticed how the rhetoric has changed in terms of the application of innovative solutions by the armed forces in reality. In other words, absolutely most areas are just soap bubbles. And in general, there is no level of analysts who at least intuitively evaluate the reality of projects and their prospects.
    1. P
      -1
      8 September 2025 19: 30
      these are the most successful directions. they recoup all investments at the stage of transferring funds
  27. +1
    5 September 2025 23: 38
    After Afghanistan, all the combat generals disappeared into civilian life... The same thing happened after the Chechen wars... This war will not be an exception - authoritative competitors have never been in favor with politicians.
    New regulations and methods will be written, of course, but not by combat generals. They will assign it to the same Roman Skomorokhov and he will do it. I am sure that this will not be his worst work.
    Those who have real combat experience and know what a fighter needs to be taught will leave... in all directions. And the basics of military science will be taught by yesterday's graduates of higher military schools according to the new regulations, but without any "hot" experience.
    1. P
      0
      8 September 2025 19: 33
      now they won't be absorbed into civilian life. The main risk for the VPR is guys with a Corsican accent. And now they are at least closely supervised, and the dismissal will be strictly for agriculture
    2. 0
      31 October 2025 00: 23
      You know a lot about Roman Skomorokhov (aka Banshee), he lacks creative talent, and can only write a commissioned article.
  28. 0
    9 September 2025 10: 33
    I absolutely agree with the author, I support him
  29. 0
    14 October 2025 07: 53
    It is not entirely clear from the article whether armored vehicles with Tsar Mangals are currently used for assault (delivering infantry to the front line) as such?

    I also wonder if the BMPT tanks, since they were re-ordered, can they reach the front lines, since their main non-missile armament has a range of a few kilometers maximum?
  30. +1
    31 October 2025 00: 18
    Naive conclusions in difficult times, author. You're supposed to be an adult, so you should understand everything by now. "In the first case, the assault is a clearing of the ruins" – where did you read that? Islands, forested areas/plantings, fortifications...don't they mean anything to you? Assault and clearing are two completely different things.