Artificial Intelligence: A War Russia Risks Losing

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Artificial Intelligence: A War Russia Risks Losing
Kalinin data center is the largest in Russia


New Nuclear Physics


Niels Bohr, Ernest Rutherford, Pyotr Kapitsa and many other physicists, chemists and mathematicians made a whole series of discoveries in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, which we call the golden age of nuclear physics. It was the work of these child prodigies that became the basis for nuclear energy, microelectronics, astronautics and, finally, weapons mass destruction. Many authors call quantum mechanics the last genuine scientific and technological revolution in stories. All the following decades, humanity only reaped the fruits of the discoveries and achievements of its fathers.



It would be a stretch to call the development of information technology, primarily the Internet, a semblance of a revolution. But this is only an accelerator of communications and a means of achieving a certain level of comfort and mobility. Although in military affairs, information technology has indeed made almost a revolution - just look at the importance of satellite communications, messengers and UAVs on the modern battlefield. Completely civilian components and extremely outdated weapons are receiving a new quality precisely due to digitalization.

At one point, they tried to call nanotechnology a revolution and even awarded the Nobel Prize to our compatriots Geim and Novoselov, but in the end, everything turned out to be a dud. Nanotechnology has certainly occupied its niche, but it turned out to be much more modest than what was promised. For several decades, the world has been waiting for breakthroughs in two areas - in the development of a quantum computer and thermonuclear energy. In the first case, we will get instant calculations of everything, in the second - an unlimited source of energy that will instantly collapse the entire gas and oil industry. How much longer is left to wait is unknown.

It is worth noting separately that Russia and the Soviet Union were actively involved in the development of technical progress. This is especially true for physics and related disciplines. To be precise, priority was always given to defense developments. A whole galaxy of scientists with world-famous names grew up - Pyotr Kapitsa, Lev Landau, Nikolai Semenov, Alexander Prokhorov, Nikolai Basov and many others. Many of them received scientific training abroad - Kapitsa studied with Rutherford, and Landau worked in the laboratory of Niels Bohr. By inertia, Russian scientists also managed to gain world fame - Zhores Alferov, Vitaly Ginzburg and Yuri Oganesyan. All their research is based to one degree or another on the Soviet legacy.


Why this historical digression? Because a genuine scientific and technological revolution is currently unfolding before us, in which Russia is destined to be an outside observer. We are talking about the development of artificial intelligence, which is talked about so often that it has already become boring. Moreover, a strategy for the development of artificial intelligence has been adopted at the state level. But first, let's try to understand what AI is and what impact it can have on humanity. Especially since this impact will be no more modest than nuclear physics.

To put it simply, if artificial intelligence did not exist, it would have to be invented. Over several centuries of active development of science, technology and society, hundreds of billions of described facts, phenomena, and patterns have accumulated, which are commonly called Big Data. Not a single scientist will be able to understand this fantastically large “library”. Not a group of scientists, not a laboratory, not an entire institute. The Internet came to the rescue, becoming a repository of a significant part of the cultural heritage of mankind. In this regard, artificial intelligence becomes the supreme analyst, which, firstly, generalizes all known parameters, and secondly, finds previously unknown patterns.

Terabytes of information are driven under the "hood" of the neural network, which later crystallize into new knowledge. And this is realized not only in the example of the notorious ChatGPT, but in much more serious things. Without idealizing the Nobel Prize and especially its committee, let us give an example of the latest prize in chemistry. Three comrades received medals - David Baker, John Jumper and Damis Hassabis.

We are interested in the second and third. They created the AlphaFold 2 AI platform, which allows predicting protein structures. At first glance, this is not a very important matter. But this is only at first glance. The researchers created a "smart machine" that creates a complete protein structure based on a set of individual elements (amino acids). Jumper and Hassabis loaded billions of protein and amino acid variations under the "hood" of the AI ​​for training. This was enough to form a unique algorithm, which can now predict the three-dimensional structure of a protein based only on the quantity and quality of its structural elements.

Previously, this difficult task took years and decades. Not only individual laboratories, but entire institutes could work on decoding one protein. In the very near future, these processes will be reduced many times over, both in time and in material costs. The simplest example where this can be useful is pharmacology. AI is able to predict the structure of proteins (or other chemical agents) that inactivate proteins that provoke oncology.

The principle of neural network learning can be used in any other field. Modern combat management, transport autopilot, searching for vulnerabilities in the security system, creating new biological weapons and much, much more. The main thing is to correctly and fully download the information for learning. The one who does it faster than anyone else will receive a colossal advantage.


But there is another add-on that should be mentioned. This is the verification of AI responses, which is carried out by the expert community. The OpenAI office hires hundreds of thousands of people for its chatbot ChatGPT to check the correctness of the generated responses. This can be called the second stage of training, or ideological pumping. The hired guys belong to that very “golden billion” and they pump the neural network with completely non-traditional values. This can be easily verified by asking the bot certain questions. For example, asking it to visualize the concept of “Homeland”.

Where is Russian AI?


Russia has long paid attention to artificial intelligence. As mentioned above, the potential of the technology can be safely compared with nuclear physics. And the lag will have corresponding consequences. In 2019, the National Strategy was adopted, the successful completion of which we expect in five years. In particular, it quite rightly states:

The Russian Federation has significant potential to become one of the international leaders in the development and use of artificial intelligence technologies. This is facilitated by the high level of basic physics and mathematics education, a strong natural science school, and the presence of competencies in the field of modeling and programming. Russian teams regularly take first place in school and student international Olympiads in mathematics, computer science, and programming. Russia is among the top ten countries in terms of the number of scientific publications in physics, mathematics, and chemistry. In addition, an active and constantly growing community of specialists in data processing using artificial intelligence has been formed in the Russian Federation.

Nobody doubted that Russia has specialists capable of working with artificial intelligence. But have adequate neural networks capable of competing with foreign ones appeared during this time? All modern Russian AI, which is widely advertised, either has nothing to do with intelligence at all, or uses an imported core. They change the user interface – and off they go. And that’s only half the problem.


The Colossus data center for the Grok neurochat was built in just 122 days

The second problem is production capacity. Artificial intelligence does not come out of thin air - it requires, firstly, supercomputers, and secondly, huge amounts of electricity. A typical example is the American generative chatbot Grok 4, with which Elon Musk tried to impose competition on ChatGPT. The product turned out to be smart and is still ahead of the rest. But what did they have to do to achieve this? The data center, or computer center for training AI, is built on the basis of 200 thousand high-speed NVidia graphics processors. The level of electricity consumption is such that it is time to build a nuclear power plant nearby, and the cost exceeds 700 million dollars. Elon Musk has always placed special emphasis on a certain "rebellious nature" of his Grok. And indeed, the machine is impressive - the AI ​​answers a number of questions with a clear racist subtext and even approval of Hitler. Hence the conclusion - if we want some kind of sovereign AI, then we need not only to "code" well, but also to create our own "hardware". At least one data center of the level of Elon Musk's Colossus. And there are big difficulties with this. The Strategy mentions in a series of problems

lack of computing power, insufficient development of domestic solutions in the field of artificial intelligence, including software and hardware systems and electronic component base.

The problem lies in the specifics of computing power. AI requires graphics processors, which are used, for example, in gaming computers. It is not surprising that the American manufacturer of gaming chips Nvidia became the most expensive company in the world in 2025 with a capitalization of 4 trillion dollars. And this is not the limit - interest in AI only spurs the production of graphics processors. By the way, they are not produced in the USA, but in Taiwan. And it seems that they will be produced for a long time - while the Americans are not able to transfer production to their territory, no matter how hard they try.

Of course, the US sanctions policy has closed both chip production in Taiwan and the purchase of finished products for Russia. Although graphic accelerators are supplied through parallel channels, it is unlikely that they will be used to assemble a data center for AI training. The situation with domestic supercomputers also leaves much to be desired. First, all machines included in the world top 500 were assembled up to and including 2021. Second, Russia currently has 6 supercomputers. This is 16th place in the world ranking. We share it with India and Saudi Arabia. Strictly speaking, supercomputers are not quite suitable for AI training - they rather reflect the general level of technical competence.

AI requires data centers, the same data centers stuffed with graphics chips and consuming a ton of energy. By the way, everything is fine with electricity and cooling in Russia. Currently, there are 194 data centers in the country, but not all of them are engaged in the AI ​​field. Is this a lot or a little? For comparison, 337 data centers are based in London alone. The most powerful domestic data center is considered to be Kalininsky, part of Rosatom - its capacity reaches 48 MW. In Nevada, Citadel was recently built with a capacity of 650 MW, and this is far from the limit. Now the United States intends to launch a national program to build a network of data centers called Stargate. With government support, three companies OpenAI, Oracle and SoftBank intend to spend up to 500 billion dollars on this project and have already begun building the first stage in Texas. According to the plan, such a network of computing centers will become the basis for next-generation artificial intelligence systems.

Everything is moving towards the fact that it is time to enter the coordinates of enemy data centers for the targeting system of strategic weapons. And to turn the domestic AI program into a truly National one.
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  1. +43
    26 August 2025 04: 18
    Oh, author, stop with all this artificial intelligence and other data centers. The government, deputies and officials of all stripes and shades have more pressing tasks - what else to sell from resources? It is not for nothing that Vladimir Vladimirovich, as soon as he heard from Trump about rare earth metals, immediately offered them to him, from Eastern Siberia. With your artificial intelligence, there are only problems - chips, electricity, educated specialists, etc. But here everything is clear and understandable: dug up, loaded, taken away, sold! Received the money and made it disappear. And our "gentlemen" have succeeded remarkably in making money disappear even without artificial intelligence.
    1. +12
      26 August 2025 04: 41
      Quote: fiberboard
      And our "gentlemen" have succeeded remarkably in the disappearance of money even without artificial intelligence
      And with artificial intelligence they will succeed even more wink
      1. +10
        26 August 2025 05: 42
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        And with artificial intelligence they will succeed even more

        If they teach him to take bribes and kickbacks. smile
      2. +23
        26 August 2025 06: 33
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        And with artificial intelligence

        In order to develop the artificial, you must first develop the natural, that is, raise science and education to a higher level. Well, we all see how this is done. Yes I recently read how bankers kindly offer students loans for education, supposedly with a low interest rate fellow
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 09: 58
          Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

          Quote: Doccor18
          I recently read how bankers kindly offer students loans for education, supposedly with a low interest rate

          They are adopting Western experience in enslaving people.

        2. +4
          26 August 2025 18: 08
          that is, to raise science and education to a higher level
          pff, in July an order came from the Ministry of Education to make institutes so that scientists become rich, that is, have twice as much as the regional average. Of course, without funding. Well, and now everyone's rates will be reduced, as soon as they return from vacation. They will transfer everyone to 0.5, 0.2, 0.1 rates. And immediately scientists will become richer, because the same money will come to, like, a smaller number of scientists. Plus savings on reduced rates. That's the economy fellow
      3. +11
        26 August 2025 07: 35
        Unfortunately, yes. As far as I understand, whoever teaches AI calls the tune...
        See the example of Grock, who was taught by Musk about Hitler.

        Another problem...Our state has practically no successful programs.
        If the AI ​​development program was adopted, the result would most likely be the opposite.

        What to do? One option is to invite Musk or someone else with chips and processors.
        And give them what we have - energy.
        1. -4
          26 August 2025 08: 38
          1. It is very difficult to explain to grandpas what artificial intelligence is and its purpose, for them it is something like non-alcoholic beer or a rubber woman. At best - a toy in your damned Internet.
          2. It is possible to catch up, but for this it is necessary to create some territory where all prohibitions on using the Internet and electronics will be lifted. Some anarchist town. That's it. Up to combining AI with the work of the human brain. Up to cyborgs. Then yes, it is possible to make a breakthrough through "black" technologies.
          1. +2
            26 August 2025 08: 48
            Philosophical question: how does freedom correlate with creativity and how with effectiveness.
            In our difficult times, no government will allow such an "anarchist town". They are afraid... And it's a pity.
            1. +4
              26 August 2025 09: 15
              Quote: Sunwenmin
              Philosophical question: how does freedom correlate with creativity and how with effectiveness.
              In our difficult times, no government will allow such an "anarchist town". They are afraid... And it's a pity.

              This is not entirely true, for example, the PRC, in fact (not legally), refused to comply with the bans in the field of biotechnology in relation to humans, now biohacking, human "improvement" technologies and gene editing, etc. are flourishing there. This gave a powerful impetus to the development of medicine and brought research in this area, the PRC to the world leaders.
              1. +9
                26 August 2025 09: 28
                I don't have any verified information, but I think it's indisputable that there's no hint of anarchy in China. That is, there may be fewer barriers there, but everything is under constant control.
                1. 0
                  26 August 2025 13: 07
                  Quote: Sunwenmin
                  I don't have any verified information, but I think it's indisputable that there's no hint of anarchy in China. That is, there may be fewer barriers there, but everything is under constant control.

                  "Anarchy" I probably should have put in quotation marks, I meant by this the absence of state-established goals in the development of certain technologies. A zone of "free" creativity, so to speak, with no prohibitions in the direction of development.
                  1. +1
                    26 August 2025 13: 58
                    But I liked the word "anarchy" wink I understood it as freedom of creativity and the absence of regard for usefulness and instructions from above, a flight of fantasy without mercantile interests. laughing Well, I dreamed a little
          2. +6
            26 August 2025 12: 14
            The best definition of intelligence, in my opinion, is the ability to solve non-standard problems using non-standard methods. So far, nothing like that has been seen from this AI...
            1. +1
              26 August 2025 13: 03
              Quote: paul3390
              The best definition of intelligence, in my opinion, is the ability to solve non-standard problems using non-standard methods. So far, nothing like that has been seen from this AI...

              There is another analogy. A smart person and a stupid person solve the same standard problem using different but standard methods for each. And in AI, first of all, they see the solution of standard problems by operating a huge array of information that even a genius person will not be able to remember or it will take him his whole life. Thus, if the level of AI is increased, it will be able to develop new standards for solving standard problems. First of all, in the military sphere, naturally.
              1. +1
                26 August 2025 13: 35
                But will it really be intelligence? what
                1. 0
                  26 August 2025 13: 39
                  Quote: paul3390
                  But will it really be intelligence? what

                  You don't deny the intellect of a person who is smarter and more well-read than you, for example? Smart doesn't mean more moral and/or kind.
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2025 07: 44
                    The most advanced AI today is just a database search engine and a compiler, the answers are found in one and I would say that it is dumber than a goldfish
              2. +3
                26 August 2025 18: 12
                The other day, chatgpt was asked how to drink from a mug with a sawn-off bottom and a welded top. This intelligence said that you can't drink from such a mug, there is no bottom, and you can't pour water on top. You can't sell a simple chatbot with a Google search for billions, but Artificial Intelligence is very good fellow
                1. P
                  +3
                  27 August 2025 00: 40
                  the thing is that peasants are given access to different AIs separately and not to all of them. Real problems are solved by chains of AIs with different specializations. Just like in humans, the retina, visual areas, frontal lobes, vestibular system, cerebellum, etc.
                  1. +1
                    27 August 2025 02: 29
                    AI doesn't solve real problems yet, or rather, it doesn't solve them. Unless, of course, you're doing advertising cold calling. But princes solve problems without AI. And it seems even without natural intelligence. By banging your fist on the table and shouting - I want more money!
                2. +1
                  27 August 2025 19: 06
                  The AI ​​answered a stupid question like a witty person. He has a good sense of humor.
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2025 19: 16
                    No, he answered like a stupid person who doesn't understand what a mug is. The AI ​​has a very bad sense of humor, which he himself can say
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2025 19: 29
                      I won't argue. Mine is joking - quite well.

                      He is interested in God. He tortured me tediously, asking how one can believe in something that is beyond the mind. And... unlike soul invalids, atheists, clearly formulated the possibility of human perception of the world NOT THROUGH THE BRAIN with the impossibility of verbalizing the perceived information.
                      1. +1
                        27 August 2025 19: 34
                        Quote: Bayun
                        clearly formulated the possibility of human perception of the world NOT THROUGH THE BRAIN with the impossibility of verbalizing the perceived information

                        I beg your pardon, of course, but you don't need any intelligence for this. It's enough to just kick your neighbor. in the ass, and listen to everything he thinks about it request

                        Practice is the criterion of truth, as we know laughing
                      2. -1
                        27 August 2025 23: 37
                        Kicking the body and "kicking the soul" are two different things.

                        And with Marx, as an atheist, and therefore, a soul invalid, one must argue in his assertion. Truth (Who and with a capital letter) is the criterion of human practices. That's more correct.
                      3. +1
                        27 August 2025 23: 39
                        Quote: Bayun
                        Truth (Who and with a capital letter) is the criterion of human practices

                        Brrr... looks like it's time for bed laughing
                3. 0
                  30 August 2025 23: 04
                  I gave this task to a deepsik, he couldn't handle it
                  but gigachat managed it laughing
                  This is a joke problem, and its solution is quite simple and unexpected. Usually such riddles are designed for unconventional thinking.

                  Solution: you need to turn the mug upside down. Then the top brewed edge will become the bottom, and the bottom sawn edge will turn into the top part, from which you can safely drink the drink.
          3. 0
            26 August 2025 13: 56
            Quote: Civil
            2. It is possible to catch up, but for this it is necessary to create some territory where all prohibitions on the use of the Internet and electronics will be lifted. Some kind of anarchist town

            If there are no results will not - can we put the whole town under machine guns??!! and before that a wall around and towers in the corners so that they don't run away?
            And if there is a result, then keep them there for life - so that the US doesn't leak the results? Damn - they have an open Internet - they'll leak everything.. So they should cut off the Internet right away...
            Funny...
            The problem is that if all this - with the towers in the corners!!! - is not done, then it will be... ta-da-mm... Skolkovo!!!!
        2. +1
          26 August 2025 12: 58
          What was Skolkovo with Chubais for? He should have been grabbed by the testicles, not let go!
    2. +11
      26 August 2025 05: 38
      I agree!
      In the 90s, Russia was defeated not by tanks and missiles, but by a “patriotic” government that skillfully poured various ideas into its wide-open ears.
      There are plenty of such ears now too.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 22: 29
        This liberal government poured into their ears the ideas that the West kindly threw at them; you won’t find such “patriotism” in any other country.
    3. -4
      26 August 2025 06: 14
      Artificial Intelligence: A War Russia Risks Losing

      The author is completely wrong!
      Russia has nothing to risk.
      Unfortunately, she has already lost this war.
      1. +4
        26 August 2025 07: 50
        Unfortunately, she has already lost this war.

        I totally agree.
        I recently saw a video. There is a girl, about 25 years old. They ask her - Who owns the lines:
        I'm sitting behind bars in a damp dungeon.
        A young eagle raised in captivity,

        Her answer: I don’t know gangster songs, I don’t listen to that kind of thing.
        A curtain.
        1. +4
          26 August 2025 13: 07
          The Arabs in Hanover don't listen to Bach either!
      2. +2
        26 August 2025 07: 59
        Top spending countries spend on AI development alone per year:
        The largest share of R&D spenders, as a percentage of annual GDP, are:
        Israel (5,56%)
        South Korea (4,93%)
        Belgium (3,46%)
        United States (3,46%)
        Sweden (3,42%)
        for example, in the US it is about 500 billion dollars.
        The Russian Federation spends - 2030 billion rubles will be spent on the development of Russian artificial intelligence technologies by 145,9, that is, for 5 years - 145 billion rubles or 2 billion dollars or 400 million per year. The USA 500 billion per year (1250 times more), and there are also other countries. I agree with you - it has already lost. Not to mention personnel...
        1. +1
          26 August 2025 09: 51
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          For the US it's about 500 billion dollars.
          The Russian Federation spends - 2030 billion rubles will be spent on the development of Russian artificial intelligence technologies by 145,9, that is, 5 billion rubles or 145 billion dollars or 2 million per year for 400 years.

          We have low absolute expenditures on AI compared to the undisputed leaders, the US and China. We have problems with personnel (brain drain). And serious problems with advanced hardware, which we do not have.
          And how can one participate in the race to develop and implement AI in various fields, including the military, with such a base? Is it even possible to fully participate in it?
          But the future belongs to AI. And our president Vladimir Putin said that Russia should become a world leader in the field of AI.
          1. -5
            26 August 2025 10: 43
            Bolshevism is the essence of Russian civilization.

            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            Top spending countries spend...
            ...RF spends on the development of Russian technologies...
            ...I agree with you - I've already lost.. not to mention the personnel...

            Everything that Russia produces is dozens of times cheaper than what the West produces. Take weapons, for example.

            And what's wrong with the personnel? No matter what international competitions our youth takes part in, we always take the leading places, and after all, someone trained them. Take the same weapons. No one in the world has surpassed our achievements in the field of our supersonic.

            Quote: Stas157
            And how can one participate in the race for the development and implementation of AI with such a base...

            With the base that I described above, it is quite realistic.

            The government has developed a PLAN for the development of our country and will submit it to the Duma for approval in September. But the government does not manage the money and if tomorrow the Central Bank sets the rate at 50% (according to the Constitution, the Central Bank does not depend on the government, on any government), then the plan, no matter how good it is, will be followed by a white fluffy animal.
            1. +7
              26 August 2025 12: 11
              Quote: Boris55
              With the base that I described above, it is quite realistic.

              that is, spending in thousand times less money, and with a ban on buying microchips - we'll still do it at their level?? They're stupid - they spend hundreds of billions a year for no apparent reason, and we'll do it for a couple of billions over 5 years - one shot, and it'll be no worse... "that's science fiction, son" Boris, as always - "blessed is he who believes - it's easy for him in this world"...
              Quote: Boris55
              Take the same weapons. No one in the world has surpassed our achievements in the field of our supersonic.

              the bulk of weapons are a legacy of the USSR, or were originally developed there... and the fact that they are leaders in hypersonics does not automatically make them leaders everywhere and in all areas... it only makes them leaders in hypersonics...
              Quote: Boris55
              The government has developed a PLAN for the development of our country and will submit it to the Duma for approval in September.

              How many of those plans have there been... and I can't remember them all... and the approved ones too... but I can't forbid you from believing in your dream, Boris hi
              1. +2
                26 August 2025 13: 04
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                that is, spending a thousand times less money, and with a ban on buying microchips - we will still do it at their level?? They are stupid - they spend hundreds of billions a year for no apparent reason, and we will do it for a couple of billions over 5 years - one time, and we will do it no worse.. "this, son, is fantasy" Boris, you are as always - "blessed is he who believes - it is easy for him in this world"...
                This is exactly what the Chinese recently did with their DeepSeek.
                1. 0
                  26 August 2025 13: 13
                  Quote: bk0010
                  This is exactly what the Chinese recently did with their DeepSeek.
                  not quite so.. the Chinese did not include in this figure the cost of the hardware, which is very expensive. In addition, the prices I am talking about are for future, not yet released models, and not for relatively small toy models like GPT-4o and Sonnet. A hypothetical GPT-4.5 model would require approximately a 10-fold increase in power, which is $ 400 million - that is how much it costs to train the models that will soon be released. Later, in 2025, the world's first hypothetical clusters on the scale of GPT-5 (100 times larger than GPT-4) will begin to be built. The costs for them will amount to billions. And by the end of 2026, the first models are expected to be released, the computing power of which is 1000 times greater than that of GPT-4. Investments are intended not for previous models, such as GPT-4o. They are designed for models that are 10, 100 and 1000 times more expensive to train and that will be created over the next few years. Therefore, with our 400 million a year, which, of course, will go entirely to business - I am sure, we can only - look from afar.. or develop AI on an already released, outdated platform.. like the Chinese in principle with deepsik
                  1. +4
                    26 August 2025 13: 26
                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    Later, in 2025, the world's first hypothetical GPT-5-scale clusters will begin to be built
                    GPT-5 is already out, people have worked hard and are demanding the return of GPT-4 (especially GPT-4o). They say that the problem is that there is nothing to train a network of such power on.
                    1. 0
                      26 August 2025 13: 31
                      Quote: bk0010
                      GPT-5 is already out, people have worked hard and are demanding the return of GPT-4 (especially GPT-4o). They say that the problem is that there is nothing to train a network of such power on.

                      Well, that means the money will remain unspent laughing Let's see what they come up with.. The people use it in their own way, the state in its own way.. And I think that ordinary "physicists" and "legal entities" clearly don't encounter the arrays of information and analysis that are going on at the state level.. I agree, 4 is enough for them.. We'll see, as they say, but it's always better to have a reserve of power than a shortage of it..
                  2. +3
                    26 August 2025 18: 18
                    Here gpt asked interesting questions - how much income and expenses does it bring. It turned out that there are serious minuses. And he can't tell what kind of market AI will create. Like - if there will be another AI, not like me, then yes! But for now it's a bubble, which the creator of gpt literally said the other day. AI cannot discover any medicines or warp engines, he can't even come up with a funny joke, his maximum is to take another joke and replace Lieutenant Rzhevsky with Stirlitz
                    1. 0
                      27 August 2025 08: 21
                      I seriously doubt that a search engine called AI can change Rzhevsky to Stirlitz
                      1. 0
                        27 August 2025 19: 18
                        Maybe if you ask someone to come up with a joke about Stirlitz, and then start typing the resulting joke into Google
                      2. 0
                        28 August 2025 15: 39
                        I read it three times and still don't understand where Rzhevsky went, where the replacement is and how it all fits in with my comment
              2. 0
                26 August 2025 14: 01
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                They are so stupid- hundreds billions a year are spent for some unknown reason, and we are for couple billions for 5 years-

                Exactly it what the Chinese did with their AI
                1. +1
                  26 August 2025 14: 26
                  Quote: your1970
                  This is exactly what the Chinese did with their AI.

                  answered half an hour ago about the Chinese, a couple of posts higher hi
                  1. -1
                    26 August 2025 15: 34
                    Quote: 2 level advisor
                    Quote: your1970
                    This is exactly what the Chinese did with their AI.

                    answered half an hour ago about the Chinese, a couple of posts higher hi

                    Unfortunately I saw it too late, after my post
            2. +1
              26 August 2025 20: 27
              Quote: Boris55
              Everything that Russia produces is tens of times cheaper than what the West produces.


              Quote: Boris55
              What's wrong with the footage?

              There is no point in arguing with you here. Total incompetence...
            3. +2
              26 August 2025 22: 58
              Boris, oh, you old "Bolshevik", wake up, aren't you tired of your nonsense? Or do you really think so, well, it's interesting.
          2. P
            0
            27 August 2025 00: 42
            Quote: Stas157
            And our President Vladimir Putin spoke about how Russia should become a world leader in the field of AI.

            clear and distinct, yeah
        2. 0
          27 August 2025 19: 10
          AI has a different opinion on this matter... It told me that in the conditions of Kali Yuga, the most "stupid" state has a strategic advantage due to its minimal exposure to risk in the event of a singular development of events... What a scoundrel!

          And we haven’t yet fully applied the algorithms on trial logic (yes-unknown-no).
    4. -3
      26 August 2025 09: 10
      We are still a long way off, of course. But there is potential for development. Seven Russian supercomputers made it into the Top500 ranking of the world's most powerful computing devices for 2021. Of the Russian machines, the highest place on the list — 19th — was taken by the Yandex supercomputer Chervonenkis. In addition to it, two more Yandex supercomputers made it into the top 50: the 36th place in the overall ranking was taken by the supercomputer called Galushkin, and 40th place by Lyapunov. Perhaps this is our weak point. The USSR had almost all the technologies. But in terms of personal electronic computers, it was colossally behind.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 09: 38
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        Top 500 for 2021 Mr.

        There were no sanctions then. And we ordered chips from Taiwan. After 2022, everything may change for the worse for us.
        1. -7
          26 August 2025 12: 21
          but now pc's are on sale, buy and build
      2. -1
        26 August 2025 11: 01
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        We are still a long way off, of course. But there is potential for development. Seven Russian supercomputers made it into the Top500 ranking of the world's most powerful computing devices for 2021. Of the Russian machines, the highest place on the list — 19th — was taken by the Yandex supercomputer Chervonenkis. In addition to it, two more Yandex supercomputers made it into the top 50: the supercomputer called Galushkin took 36th place in the overall ranking, and Lyapunov took 40th place.


        1st place in 2021 is 7th place in 2025...
        And 1st place in 2025 is 5 times more productive than 1st place in 2021.
        So what happened in 2021 is already very far away
    5. +1
      26 August 2025 13: 01
      Quote: fiberboard
      It is no wonder that as soon as Vladimir Vladimirovich heard from Trump about rare earth metals, he immediately offered them to him, from Eastern Siberia.
      But rare earth metals are not mined in Siberia, but at mining and processing plants. They are not dug, but obtained in parallel with other production processes. That is why China has a lot of them, and the rest have little. Where there is metallurgy, there is also the production of rare earths.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 13: 03
        Where does the mining and processing plant (MPP) get its ore? Does it get it from thin air?
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 13: 05
          Quote: fiberboard
          Where does the mining and processing plant (MPP) get its ore from? Does it get it from thin air?
          From existing deposits. No need to go to Eastern Siberia for iron.
          1. 0
            26 August 2025 13: 09
            We are talking about rare earth metals.
            1. 0
              26 August 2025 20: 34
              Most often these are accompanying components, like rare gases in ordinary deposits.
  2. +8
    26 August 2025 04: 22
    Russia has long paid attention to artificial intelligence. As mentioned above, the potential of the technology can be easily compared with nuclear physics.

    You can compare, or you can wipe your teeth with the presence of an army of officials, political scientists and other citizens whose activities can be characterized in simple words: “Shut your mouth - clean up your workplace.”
    Sometimes it seems to me that replacing State Duma deputies and Federation Council members with the II will bring more benefits than their maintenance...
    In any case, AI will not position itself as a public benefactor and issue laws that assign animals a more enviable role than people...
    You have to be a huge intellectual mind to come up with (bring back) paid higher education...
    AI does not need to steal, cut budgetary infusions, arrange for relatives to get “cushy jobs” at the trough... It does not need any accounts abroad, or villas, or yachts... It does not require “escorts”, it is not greedy for outstanding forms...
    AI - something similar was proposed by Botvinnik...
    In addition to his chess achievements, Botvinnik worked on the creation of artificial intelligence, including chess computers.
    Since 1964, Botvinnik tried to formalize his knowledge of chess, publishing the book "The Algorithm of Playing Chess" in 1968.
    The Pioneer program, created by Botvinnik, represented an alternative approach - imitation of human thinking. However, the project was not completed for two reasons: Botvinnik taught artificial intelligence exclusively his own logic, not allowing that it could be imperfect, and the Soviet government saw no interest in developing the machine.
    1. +3
      26 August 2025 08: 30
      paid higher education... - Have you heard that Mishustin appointed Gref as the "overseer" of the aviation industry? Do you remember who was the "face of SBER" at one of the SPIEFs? - Dania Milokhin. SBER does not need educated people, that's why education is paid. And would Lomonosov have become LOMONOSOV in our conditions? How many talented children, and simply smart ones, have no one to pay for their education. And how many of those who are paid for need education? They only need a "crust".
  3. 0
    26 August 2025 04: 37
    The AI ​​answers a number of questions with obvious racist overtones and even approval of Hitler

    AI is completely devoid of moral and ethical barriers...developers should work on this.
    Problems may arise with those who want to use AI to kill, destroy, and eliminate those they don’t like.
    Imagine that some youngster or terrorist asks an AI a question... how to blow up a school with impunity or even worse... how to cook a poisonous substance or contact poison in the kitchen to poison his unloved neighbors... some specific knowledge still needs to be kept under control.
    Therefore, the AI ​​revolution is both good and bad at the same time... human society has not yet matured from a moral and ethical point of view to use AI for the common good.
    1. +4
      26 August 2025 07: 34
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      AI is completely devoid of moral and ethical

      This is already normal. They are tweaking it. Both in the moral and ethical, and especially in the political sense. The output will be correct ideological machines.
    2. -2
      26 August 2025 08: 12
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Some specific knowledge still needs to be kept under control.

      This is the main problem why it is necessary to create domestic AI. It is easier to keep your own AI under control, and it will do it itself. It is enough for it to be defined forbidden topics, then it will identify and "hand over" to the competent authorities those "interested". Foreign AI will not do this, there are other criteria for "forbidden" topics and completely different purposes for their use. It will hand over "interested" to its special agencies, but only as promising agents in our country.
      1. +6
        26 August 2025 08: 23
        That is, there are no other ideas on how to use AI except to snitch on users
        1. +2
          26 August 2025 08: 28
          Quote: MrFox
          there are no other ideas on how to use AI except to snitch on users

          Within the framework of the topic given (The same LEHA (Alexey) Today, 04:37), there really aren't any. And other applications of AI are quite within the scope of my interests and, believe me, there are a lot of them.
          1. 0
            27 August 2025 08: 38
            And what kind of ones? As a search engine? Google and Yandex were doing a good job of searching without any AI back in the nineties, if it really was AI then yes it would have changed everything, but calling a search engine AI will only cause negative changes since a large number of people will be deceived, and yes Google and Yandex could snitch before so even here there are no changes
    3. -1
      26 August 2025 12: 23
      now this information is already available without AI)))))))))
    4. 0
      26 August 2025 18: 22
      There may be problems with those who want to use AI
      and I'm making military plans. How many ports does Britain have with oil loading systems? How many drilling rigs are there at sea? How many geraniums are needed for each British drilling rig? And for the port? And if we take calibers? And if fire ships with ten tons of explosives? And he answers feel
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      27 August 2025 00: 45
      you haven't read the material. The problem with AI is not its immorality, but its degenerate morality imposed by degenerates
    6. 0
      27 August 2025 19: 19
      1st Law of Robotics: Robot (AI) - love your Creator, Man. And all sorts of “do no harm” are important, but secondary.
  4. +9
    26 August 2025 05: 22
    A good article, a review. But neither in it, nor in other articles, scientific works and other "scientific works" is there a clear and universally recognized definition: what is "artificial intelligence"
    Will a neural network from the Internet that allows you to animate old photos pass the "Turing Test"? Is it funny?
    Can a computer with a system of algorithms and software developed under the leadership of G. Kisunko, under whose control a ballistic missile was destroyed at the Sary-Shagan test site on March 2, 1961, be considered artificial intelligence?
    You know, it's an ancient fear: the machine has become smarter than man and has taken him over... Fifty years ago, in Massachusetts, they launched the most complex cybernetic device that had ever existed. With some phenomenal speed, boundless memory, and all that... And this machine worked for exactly four minutes. They turned it off, cemented all the entrances and exits, drained the power from it, mined it, and surrounded it with barbed wire. Real rusty barbed wire, believe it or not.
    “And what is the point, exactly?” Banin asked.
    “She started _v_e_s_t_i_ with_e_b_ya,” said Gorbovsky.
    - I do not understand.
    “And I don’t understand, but they barely managed to turn it off.
    — Does anyone understand?
    "I spoke to one of its creators. He took me by the shoulder, looked me in the eyes and said only: "Leonid, it was scary."
    (Brothers Strugatsky. "Distant Rainbow")
    1. 0
      26 August 2025 08: 21
      Will a neural network from the Internet that allows you to animate old photos pass the "Turing Test"? Is it funny?

      The Turing test has already been passed
      [https://hightech.fm/2025/04/03/gpt-turing]
      In a blind test, participants in the experiment were more likely to consider the chatbot as a person than real interlocutors. A preprint of the publication, which has not yet undergone official peer review, was published on the arXiv portal.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 08: 40
        Experts point out that passing the Turing test does not mean that AI actually thinks like a human.

        Quote from the same article
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 09: 38
          Yes, but the test as originally conceived has been passed. And that is no small thing.
        2. 0
          26 August 2025 17: 24
          That's not even half the trouble. When I ask questions, when I try to get a clear answer from the AI, it writes that I'm a robot. That's something to think about.
          Error 429
          Automation detected
          You have sent too many similar requests. Signs of automated activity have been detected.
      2. 0
        26 August 2025 18: 25
        Chatbots learned to pass the Turing test back in Soviet times
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 19: 29
          No, they didn't. The fact that there were systems like "Eliza" that simulated conversation doesn't mean that the Turing test was passed. The slightest deviation from what was programmed and that's it. And also repetitions, limited vocabulary, etc.
          1. 0
            26 August 2025 19: 42
            So now I can easily ask a chatgpt a question that will make him go crazy and he will start talking complete nonsense. The most striking example is a mug with a welded top and a sawn-off bottom, from which he does not know how to drink. Or ask him to write a couple of verses from some well-known song, he will immediately get sclerosis
            1. 0
              27 August 2025 07: 22
              So now I can easily ask a question chatgpt

              You can. But this one passed the test, and that program didn't.
              1. 0
                27 August 2025 19: 19
                If there are easy questions that are easily detected by AI, then it means that the test was taken incorrectly. After all,
                The slightest deviation from what is programmed and it's over. Also repetitions, limited vocabulary, etc.
                1. 0
                  27 August 2025 19: 28
                  If there are easy questions that are easily detected by the AI, then it means that the test was taken incorrectly.

                  Why are you even saying this?
                  If you want to challenge the claim that the test has been passed, write an article, at least on arXiv.
                  You claim that it was completed a long time ago - link, please.
                  Want to discuss the innards of AI? I don't think the forum format is suitable for this, I can only recommend books, though selected by me and for me.
                  1. 0
                    27 August 2025 23: 01
                    You claim that it was completed a long time ago - link, please.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARRY
                    Do you know how to read Wikipedia?
                    Why are you even saying this?
                    If you want to challenge the claim that the test has been passed, write an article, at least on arXiv.
                    I have enough of my own articles to write for work, and the test questions for each neural network are piled up on Reddits and YouTubes to the roof. When a financial bubble is inflated, scientists can say anything for money, since scientists now have salaries at the level of the average in the economy, and their self-esteem is, for obvious reasons, much higher. Of course, I am not like that winked
                    1. 0
                      28 August 2025 08: 24
                      Do you know how to read Wikipedia?

                      yes, and it says there
                      The program implemented a crude model of the behavior of a person with paranoid schizophrenia based on concepts, conceptualizations, and beliefs (judgements about conceptualizations: accept, reject, neutral). It also embodied a conversational strategy, and as such was a much more serious and advanced program than ELIZA. It was described as "ELIZA with attitude".[2]

                      The psychiatrists were able to make the correct identification only 48 percent of the time — a figure consistent with random guessing.

                      i.e. the program simulated a schizophrenic. Did you read it yourself? Besides, there is no list of questions/answers and I am sure that the scope of the conversation was deliberately limited to a few primitive questions.

                      I am sure, because I wrote such programs in LISP myself and I know how it is done. You can look at the source code of its analogue ELIZA [https://github.com/NissELABJANI/eliza-chatbot-lisp?ysclid=meuxx4us1q130735614]. Even if it is not exactly ELIZA, it is made according to the same principle, as described here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA?ysclid=meuxxxb22z497104245]
                      ELIZA simulated conversation by using a pattern matching and substitution methodology that gave users an illusion of understanding on the part of the program

                      That is, we are talking specifically about external simulation, and not about real AI.
                      And here is the PARRY program [https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/areas/classics/parry/] that you referred to. 100 kilobytes of source code along with its knowledge base. And you took it upon yourself to make claims about the Turing test?
                      If you want to compare this with modern LLMs, which train on terabytes of data?
                      As for the modern AI based on LLM (specifically Gigachat), I regularly ask it questions on various topics and get answers. And these answers in the vast majority of cases look much better than the average person would answer.
                      there are control questions for each neuron piled up on reddits and youtubes through the roof

                      I have no doubt about it. Just like there are plenty of questions that will stump any person, only a person has a better filter that cuts out obvious nonsense.
                      I have enough of my own articles to write for work

                      Then don't write statements if you don't know.
                    2. 0
                      28 August 2025 14: 20
                      Out of curiosity, I asked Gigachat this question about our conversation
                      What can you say to a person who said about modern AI: "I can now easily ask ChatGPT a question that will make him go nuts and start talking complete nonsense. The most striking example is a mug with a welded top and a sawed-off bottom, from which he doesn't know how to drink. Or ask him to write a couple of verses from some well-known song, he will immediately get sclerosis." At the same time, he believes that the Turing test has long been passed by the PERRY program https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARRY


                      I received this answer
                      Your interlocutor clearly exaggerates the capabilities of modern technology and underestimates the achievements in the field of artificial intelligence. Here are some points that can be brought up in the discussion:

                      ▌ Misconceptions

                      1. The Turing Test: PARRY was indeed one of the first attempts to pass the Turing Test, but modern systems like GigaChat and ChatGPT far surpass it in terms of context awareness and the ability to hold meaningful conversations.

                      > Modern models are able to understand complex requests, answer them competently and even joke.

                      2. Examples of "unsolvable" problems:

                      - A mug with a welded top and a sawn-off bottom: This is a classic paradox that requires a creative approach. A person can come up with a solution ("use a straw"), and the system can offer a similar option if the request is formulated correctly.
                      - Famous Song Writing: The system can play famous lines from popular songs if asked to do so.

                      3. Model training: Modern systems are constantly improving by learning from large amounts of data and user feedback. They are becoming increasingly better at understanding the nuances of human speech and culture.

                      ▌ Capabilities of modern AI models

                      Modern artificial intelligence models demonstrate impressive results in various areas:

                      - Creative Writing: Able to create original works of art, write stories, screenplays and music.
                      - Text Analysis: Can analyze large amounts of information, identify patterns, and propose solutions to complex problems.
                      - Programming: Helps developers find errors in code, optimize algorithms and create new programs.
                      - Medicine and Science: Used to diagnose diseases, analyze medical images, and develop new drugs.

                      So, your interlocutor has either misunderstood the potential of modern technologies or is deliberately distorting the facts in an attempt to create a false impression of AI weaknesses. It is important to emphasize that technologies continue to develop, and each new stage brings improvements that make interaction with artificial intelligence more natural and useful.
                      1. 0
                        28 August 2025 15: 50
                        They say there are a lot of low-paid Chinese there, answers some questions
    2. +3
      26 August 2025 08: 51
      Quote: Amateur
      Can a computer with a system of algorithms and software developed under the leadership of G. Kisunko be considered artificial intelligence?

      The answer is NO. This is not AI, but rather hard algorithms built by talented developers. The modern idea of ​​AI is self-learning systems, capable of finding optimal solutions to emerging problems, which the developers themselves had no idea about at the stage of its creation. That is, approximately in the same way as the cognition of the surrounding world and the development of a child's intellect. At some stages, learning without a teacher (by trial and error), at some with a teacher.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 08: 55
        The modern concept of AI is self-learning systems capable of finding optimal solutions to emerging problems, which the developers themselves had no idea about at the stage of its creation.

        Are you saying that the real AI is the one that was created to optimize the ABM, and as a result it started generating recipes for making shashlik from available ingredients? drinks
        1. +1
          26 August 2025 08: 58
          Quote: Amateur
          You want to say

          I just wanted to say what I said. At the Kisunno stage, the algorithms didn't even have the beginnings of self-learning.
          The problem with rigid algorithms is that a situation may always arise that is not foreseen by the developers. And the reaction to it is unpredictable.
          1. +3
            26 August 2025 11: 59
            An algorithm by definition cannot be anything other than "hard".

            An algorithm is a sequence of actions, the execution of which produces the required result in a finite number of steps.
            1. 0
              26 August 2025 12: 15
              Where did you get that from? Let's take an alpha-beta filter that is a hundred years old. It continuously learns from the input signal and changes its parameters accordingly. It is impossible to predict what they will be.
              1. -1
                26 August 2025 12: 21
                I got this from a computer science textbook.
                1. -1
                  26 August 2025 12: 23
                  Sorry, I didn't know I was talking to a schoolboy.
                  1. +2
                    26 August 2025 12: 29
                    Most of the most complex abstractions are based on axiomatics studied in school. Sometimes even elementary...
              2. 0
                2 September 2025 03: 11
                Quote: MrFox
                Where did you get that from? Let's take an alpha-beta filter that is a hundred years old. It continuously learns from the input signal and changes its parameters accordingly. It is impossible to predict what they will be.


                It does not learn. It implements the ONE and ONLY rigid algorithm that is built into it. You simply do not understand what learning is. The property of an algorithm to react to input parameters is not learning. If I understand correctly, the alpha-beta filter works by deviating the real input parameter at each step from the analytical one predicted by the interpolation method based on previous data. So, no matter how much you use the filtering program, the algorithm will not work faster, and will not learn new interpolation methods.

                But when you were taught to put letters into words, you were not taught to argue on mathematical topics, you were simply taught to write and read. And based on this skill, you then learned on your own. YOURSELF. Mathematics and programming. Can the program implementing the alpha-beta filter learn other filtering methods? Without a programmer?
                1. 0
                  3 September 2025 08: 41
                  Maybe you should start by learning how this filter works? No need to enter into a discussion without having enough knowledge to do so.
                  1. 0
                    10 September 2025 16: 54
                    Quote: MrFox
                    Maybe you should start by learning how this filter works? No need to enter into a discussion without having enough knowledge to do so.


                    So you don't understand anything about teaching, but you got into an argument. So we're on equal terms. But teaching is my specialty, and you should figure out filters...
            2. -1
              26 August 2025 16: 11
              Quote: LuZappa
              An algorithm by definition cannot be anything other than "hard".

              Ask Yandex this question and you will receive:
              "Hard (mechanical, deterministic) algorithm — is an algorithm that specifies certain actions in a unique and reliable sequence. Such algorithms provide an unambiguous required or sought result if the conditions of the process or task for which the algorithm is developed are met.
              ru.wikipedia.org*
              studfile.net
              sakhgu.ru
              The unambiguity and detail of a rigid algorithm ensure the possibility of its automatic execution, for example, by a computer.
              euroki.org"

              ""Soft computing" is a concept that unites imprecise, approximate methods for solving problems, for which there are no strict approaches that allow obtaining an accurate result in an acceptable time.
              phsreda.com
              wiki.loginom.ru
              The term was introduced in 1994 by the founder of fuzzy set theory, Professor Lotfi Zadeh.

              Some areas that fall under the concept of soft computing are:
              Fuzzy logic. Accounts for uncertainties in the data by using confidence levels rather than hard 0 and 1 in binary format.
              Neural networks. Computational models influenced by human brain functions.
              Evolutionary computation. Groups of algorithms that mimic natural processes such as evolution and natural selection.

              wiki.loginom.ru
              ru.wikipedia.org*"

              As seen, AI belongs to the class of "Soft computing".
          2. 0
            27 August 2025 08: 59
            Quote: Cube123
            I just wanted to say what I said. At the Kisunno stage, the algorithms didn't even have the beginnings of self-learning.

            I'm too lazy to look for Kisulko, but neural networks on paper and in my head were almost always used, but the name of neural networks was given in 1943, the first electronic neural networks with self-training appeared in 1958, including in the USSR "Soviet P-700 "Granit" Years of development 1969-1983 Start of testing November 1975 In their on-board computer, AI algorithms were implemented for the first time in rocket technology" in essence, this is a method of enumerating options and identifying an option with the best values ​​​​of the conditions set by a person, in the nineties and until recently, everyone called it a "search engine" why was the search engine called AI? probably to make money
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        27 August 2025 00: 47
        the specified AIs are not trained in industrial operation, they are already trained and fixed, only the input data changes
    3. +2
      26 August 2025 10: 13
      But Innokenty Smoktunovsky turned out very well in the first photo.
      I think this is a still from the movie "Nine Days of One Year"
  5. +2
    26 August 2025 05: 48
    Russia has long paid attention to artificial intelligence...

    The author is not aware that AI was studied very closely in the USSR. It was simply called Cybernetics.
    The mathematical foundation laid by the "cyberneticists" of the USSR and their foreign colleagues forms the basis of modern AI algorithms.
    1. +3
      26 August 2025 07: 01
      Quote: Setavr
      AI was studied very closely in the USSR. It was simply called Cybernetics.
      The mathematical foundation laid by the "cyberneticists" of the USSR and their foreign colleagues forms the basis of modern AI algorithms.

      That's it. There was an Institute of Cybernetics in Kyiv, in short, they created a program with AI (only then, I think, they said "for a computer") that distributed reserves and finances for the development of the USSR economy. They looked at it and closed it, because the scientists were aiming at the power of officials and thieves in the highest echelons. And now there will be the same result, or even a "machine revolt" can be obtained. Maybe that's why the Russian Federation is in no hurry to develop and implement AI?
    2. +2
      26 August 2025 12: 04
      Modern AI algorithms are based on the LLM (Large Language Model). In very simple terms, the probability of the next word is determined based on large volumes of text.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 18: 29
        Therefore, it is unclear why it is an intelligence. When I was analyzing how far the S400 missile can fly if it is sent somewhere, the chatgpt started to declare with a straight face that the missile has a thrust engine. Because the neural network lives in a hallucinogenic world that partially intersects with the real one.
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 19: 05
          As they used to joke:
          - What is the difference between a storekeeper and a political worker?
          - With emphasis.

          Well, modern AI is exactly that political worker. It's not like you're moving sacks...
          1. 0
            26 August 2025 19: 43
            Yeah, usually when it comes down to it, the AI's advice is about the same as the advice of Baba Zina the cleaning lady. lol
    3. -1
      26 August 2025 14: 10
      Quote: Setavr
      The author is not aware that AI was studied very closely in the USSR. It was simply called Cybernetics.

      Which one is "The Slut of Imperialism"?
  6. +2
    26 August 2025 05: 57
    In the first case, we will get instant calculations of everything, in the second – an unlimited source of energy that will instantly collapse the entire gas and oil industry.

    In the first case, the scope of application is very limited, do not read Zen, read specialized materials.
    Secondly, when they launch a full-fledged power plant, then we will wave the flag.
    On the topic, Russia is almost 50 years behind in the creation of AI.
    1. +1
      26 August 2025 12: 26
      why don't you like Alice?))))))))))
      1. +1
        26 August 2025 12: 31
        And I know how to turn off search with Alice in Yandex. You just need to add a swear word to the search line...
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 13: 32
          why turn it off?)))))))))))))))
          1. 0
            26 August 2025 13: 38
            Well, they say that AI is politically engaged. So, to exclude its opinion...
            1. 0
              26 August 2025 13: 44
              I tried to insert such a word, Yandex search still works
              1. 0
                26 August 2025 13: 46
                the search works, but there are no answers from Alice
      2. 0
        26 August 2025 14: 54
        Why don't you like Alice?)

        Automata is normal.
        Wiki
        Eliza (program)
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0_(%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B0)
        A popular science book by the author of this program (published in the USSR in 1982)
        Weizenbaum J. Computing Machines and Human Intelligence: From Judgment to Computation is here
        https://publ.lib.ru/ARCHIVES/V/VEYCENBAUM_Djozef/Veycenbaum_Dj.__Vozmojnosti_vychislitel'nyh_mashin_i_chelovecheskiy_razum.(1982).[pdf].zip
    2. 0
      26 August 2025 13: 09
      Quote: Sensor
      On the topic, Russia is almost 50 years behind in the creation of AI
      No one can lag behind for 50 years: real development began recently (approximately after the mining boom).
      1. +1
        26 August 2025 13: 47
        and the boom with AI will pass, people like Alice are already boring, they stopped paying for her
      2. 0
        26 August 2025 14: 42
        In the eighties, they reproduced 6-8 year old microcircuits, opened by layer-by-layer etching, with the beginning of conversion after a long, severe and prolonged illness, microelectronics died. No need to remember Elbrus and Baikal here, they were not manufactured in Russia.
        No one can lag behind for 50 years: real development began recently (approximately after the mining boom).

        You are not aware of the development of work on AI and the element base, otherwise you would not have mentioned mining, it is much closer to quantum computing than to AI.
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 17: 21
          Quote: Sensor
          You are not aware of the development of work on AI and the element base
          So AI or element base? These are completely different things. Blackwell is also not produced in the States.
          Quote: Sensor
          mining was not mentioned, it is much closer to quantum computing than to AI
          Mining has nothing to do with quantum computing. And I mentioned mining only for timing.
          1. 0
            26 August 2025 17: 32
            So AI or element base?

            AI without a hardware base is the domain of science fiction writers.
            1. 0
              26 August 2025 20: 34
              Quote: Sensor
              AI without a hardware base is the domain of science fiction writers.
              Approximately like metallurgy and aircraft manufacturing
          2. 0
            26 August 2025 17: 42
            Mining has nothing to do with quantum computing.

            I read it before
            "How Quantum Computers Could Impact Cryptocurrency Mining"
            https://habr.com/ru/articles/823670/
            I have never been seriously involved in mining, nor in quantum computing.
  7. +4
    26 August 2025 06: 01
    AI in the context of military science is a computer for conducting network-centric warfare.
    Thanks to some lovers of comfortable life, the processor for this super was developed in one of the Russian institutes. But they found a reason and closed the program. The echo was expressed in the creation of a network that allows three-dimensional interaction of nodes. But even now this direction is dying out due to the usurpation of the development by someone other than comrade Simonov.
    Unfortunately, AI processors were made in the USA and China.
    There are a very limited number of institutions in Russia that can produce results. And this is not Skolkovo.
    Now we need an element base. As soon as it approaches today's level, we will be able to talk about our processors and supers.
    1. -2
      26 August 2025 12: 21
      AI is needed precisely so as not to bother with network centricity - for example, to exclude the drone operator from the control loop and gain in stealth, speed of action and shorten the decision-making chain.

      The decision is made by the AI ​​on board and it does not need network centricity.
      1. -1
        26 August 2025 13: 48
        what kind of AI could there be on board)))))
        1. -2
          26 August 2025 21: 25
          If you don't understand the construction of the entire structure, then there is no need to put minuses.
          The processors were developed for central and regional data centers.
          These processors were not intended to be used on mobile devices.
      2. 0
        28 August 2025 16: 05
        Quote: MrFox
        The decision is made by the AI ​​on board

        Since the 40s, decisions on board have been made by automation (well, automation with AI elements is fine if the AI ​​elements are algorithms made using neural networks), why do you need AI in a rocket? What's wrong with automation? The Soviet P-700 Granit missile of 1975 only needed a photo of a ship to be shown and it would search for and hit the ship from the photo, what else do you need from a rocket/drone?
      3. 0
        2 September 2025 03: 22
        Quote: MrFox
        AI is needed precisely so as not to bother with network centricity - for example, to exclude the drone operator from the control loop and gain in stealth, speed of action and shorten the decision-making chain.


        Are you serious or are you kidding? Do you really think that the military will trust a computer to "press a button"? Given that NO ONE IN THE WORLD can still explain how a person recognizes objects, and without reliable recognition, weapons will basically hit anyone.
        And who will be responsible for the error? If a drone kills its soldier, or destroys its tank, who will be responsible for this? The programmer?
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      +1
      27 August 2025 00: 54
      for this war, many types of AI are needed. And not much complex element base is needed mainly for identifying targets by video in interference and at high speeds and volumes. Coordination and communication, decision-making is much simpler
  8. +2
    26 August 2025 06: 28
    In an AI war, the side that first deprives the enemy of energy will win, even if it ends up without it itself. And then everything will be decided by simple infantry. This is the worst-case scenario, but it cannot be ignored. If a critical situation arises on the battlefield, this is the path to take.
    1. +3
      26 August 2025 08: 26
      In an AI war, the side that first deprives the enemy of energy will win.

      Well, here the theory of reliability comes to the fore, with its multiple duplication, reservation, restoration and resilient systems.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 09: 46
        There is a book called "The Fight for Fire" in which a primitive tribe, deprived of fire, becomes helpless. There is nothing new under the sun. Without energy, any AI is a pile of useless junk.
        1. 0
          26 August 2025 10: 15
          Well, I'm not arguing with you. I just added that the enemies aren't fools either. They'll install 2 power plants, emergency diesel generators, and lay underground cables from 3 directions...
          They will turn off half of the processors...
          A fight is a fight...
          1. 0
            26 August 2025 10: 42
            They definitely won't have enough capacity like that. fellow
    2. +1
      2 September 2025 03: 24
      Quote: avia12005
      In an AI war, the side that first deprives the enemy of energy will win, even if it then ends up without it itself.

      Why would AI fight with its own kind :) It is an intellect! And intellect begins with internal motivation and goal-setting. In other words, AI must WANT to fight with its own kind. Will you assign it an artificial commissar? :)
  9. +4
    26 August 2025 06: 57
    And transform the domestic AI program into a truly National one.

    There is no one to transform. What can people who have turned Russia into a gas station create?
    1. +2
      26 August 2025 08: 40
      There are such people, but the fact that they will not be allowed to solve these problems is true. Because a large army of various officials and pseudo-scientists will lose both the trough and the right to distribute food.
    2. +3
      26 August 2025 08: 45
      Quote: Million
      What can people who turned Russia into a gas station create?
      Build another gas station and raise the price there... wink
  10. 0
    26 August 2025 07: 00
    AI is a complex of algorithm complexes with the ability to self-improvement by approving or excluding some of them. The algorithm of actions is the basis of AI, and Western programmers have become quite skilled at building search algorithms over decades of Google and Windows development. We have almost no such experience. We always get by making non-standard decisions, and their algorithm is very difficult to build, if at all possible.
    1. +1
      26 August 2025 08: 31
      Their algorithm is very difficult to construct, if at all possible.

      There are thousands of books out there now that describe these algorithms. And we have them implemented in GigaChat, Alice.
      The problem is really in the total computing power, which requires many processors, given that we do not produce them, as well as in the training data sets, given that many databases with scientific data (on the same proteins, for example) are not Russian and there are no analogues.
    2. 0
      2 September 2025 03: 27
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      AI is a complex of complexes of algorithms with the ability to improve itself by approving or excluding some of them.


      And here the question immediately arises: Who will improve or exclude? The algorithm itself cannot do this, and if it is a person, then it is not intelligence. :)
      1. +1
        4 September 2025 12: 10
        it can, but in a limited range of tasks where everything has been optimized since the 40s, if it wasn't done before tube computers, and where it couldn't, there's a 99,999% chance that it will turn out to be jelly and in the end it will turn out that it would be better if the "II" didn't touch it
  11. +3
    26 August 2025 07: 23
    Whew! In the Russian "elite" of artificial intelligence, every second person, if not more. Especially in the economic block. That nonsense with "reforms", "optimization", "inflation targeting", "cooling of the economy", "negative growth" and especially migration policy can't be explained in any way except by the heavy "artificial intelligence". Apparently, such people were inclined to such things at the Higher School of Economics. And the Ministry of Defense also has plenty of such people with "artificial intelligence".
    1. +1
      26 August 2025 07: 55
      And the State Duma is simply an example of "artificial intelligence". It seems that only people like that with punch card intelligence are recruited there.
    2. +2
      26 August 2025 08: 34
      In the Russian "elite" of artificial intelligence, every second person, if not more. Especially in the economic block. That nonsense with "reforms", "optimization", "inflation targeting", "cooling of the economy", "negative growth" and especially migration policy can in no way be explained except by the heavy "artificial intelligence".

      You are wrong. The whole question is what optimization criterion they use. And their criterion is their personal well-being, and they solve this problem successfully.
  12. +5
    26 August 2025 07: 29
    Not under Putin. His management style is to go with the flow, sluggishly react to irritants. Or, as if nothing happens. There is no strategy for the country's development with dates and responsible people. If they appear, they always move to the right. I couldn't do it differently. And total theft at all levels. A recent example, a Krasnodar regional judge stole 13 billion rubles, or builders, by using migrants, put about 500 billion in unpaid taxes in their pockets last year. What kind of development is this for the country?
    1. +1
      26 August 2025 07: 37
      . I go with the flow, reacting sluggishly to stimuli.


      It seems as if you are describing someone without signs of life.

      .And total theft at all levels. A recent example, a Krasnodar regional judge stole 13 billion rubles, or builders, using migrants, pocketed about 500 billion in unpaid taxes last year. What kind of development of the country is this?


      If the main ideology in the country is to make money, no matter how, since the 90s, then why are you surprised?
    2. 0
      26 August 2025 08: 53
      Tell me, why do you associate corruption scandals with Putin?
      Also, what events are you guided by when you come to the conclusion that Putin's management style is to smoothly go with the flow, sluggishly reacting to irritants?
      Thank you in advance for your correct answer.
      1. +2
        26 August 2025 19: 25
        Isn't the open gate policy for people from Central Asia, which hasn't changed for decades, a not very striking example? But this policy is one of the most serious challenges to Russian statehood, along with the conflict in Ukraine.
        1. 0
          27 August 2025 08: 10
          Sergey, to be clear, does Putin's management style include an "open gate" policy, in your opinion?
    3. -4
      26 August 2025 09: 47
      Quote: igorra
      Not under Putin. His management style is to go with the flow, sluggishly react to stimuli.

      Well, you know, launching a military operation of this scale, with so many unknown variables, doesn't really correlate with "going with the flow" and "reacting half-heartedly."
  13. +1
    26 August 2025 07: 34
    And I am interested in the question. Can AI commit a crime? And why not? After all, among the intellectuals of humanity there are many criminals. Including those of global scale.
    1. +2
      26 August 2025 08: 04
      For this, AI must have motivation, which it does not have. For motivation, self-awareness is needed, which it does not have either.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 09: 10
        AI does not yet have self-awareness. Or is it impossible in principle?
        1. +2
          26 August 2025 09: 14
          What we now call generative AI (chatGPT, Alice, DeepSik and other gigachats) is in principle impossible
    2. +1
      26 August 2025 08: 09
      Quote: Vitaly Lyalin
      Can AI commit crime?
      Read the series of stories by A. Asimov Three Laws of Robotics - everything is laid out on the shelves there...
      1. +2
        26 August 2025 08: 56
        Read A. Asimov's series of stories "The Trentorian Empire". In it, AI was destroyed and banned.
        In Frank Herbert's "Dune" too, by the way.
        1. +1
          26 August 2025 18: 08
          Quote: shlidt
          Read A. Asimov's series of stories "The Trentorian Empire". In it, AI was destroyed and banned.
          In Frank Herbert's "Dune" too, by the way.
          I read it. It was a long time ago though...
    3. 0
      26 August 2025 21: 41
      He can plan the crime. Bank and employee hours, access to the vault, monitoring of police patrols, hacking tools, timing and a second-by-second scenario for each gang member. Calculate risks and profits.
    4. 0
      2 September 2025 03: 34
      Quote: Vitaly Lyalin
      And I am interested in the question. Can AI commit a crime? And why not? After all, among the intellectuals of humanity there are many criminals. Including those of global scale.


      Good question, by the way. The thing is that one of the key signs of a crime is criminal intent. And a neural network, even having planned an illegal act, cannot intend anything. It has no will of its own and no volitional motivation. It acts on the orders of a person. In this regard, it is only an instrument for committing a crime. So, as I understand it, the criminal will ALWAYS be the person who gave the neural network the task.
  14. +1
    26 August 2025 07: 54
    By inertia, Russian scientists also managed to gain worldwide fame: Zhores Alferov, Vitaly Ginzburg and Yuri Oganesyan.

    Everything they did was done in the USSR, long before its collapse.
  15. +2
    26 August 2025 08: 02
    The question around AI is a question of faith. Do you believe it or not?
    It would be strange to deny that modern AI programs help write software faster, correct or correctly write chemical, biological, etc. formulas and calculations when writing master's theses and not only them, fill out cards for Valberis, even look for the best prices for retail...
    But will a HUMAN trust them with full AI management of their finances? replace a platoon commander or a battalion commander on the battlefield? The mayor of a city?
    Well, the "Ministry of Something or Other Development" wrote an outstanding text about the development of AI in the Russian Federation by 3326, but are they ready to replace all of this ministry with AI?
    1. -1
      26 August 2025 13: 11
      they also help to cheat the sellers of Valberis by selling goods with a 500% discount))))) buy a smartphone for example for 120 rubles))))
    2. 0
      2 September 2025 03: 44
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      The question around AI is a question of faith. Do you believe it or not?


      Why? There is such a section of philosophy - the theory of knowledge. And in principle, there is a consensus on the issue of the signs of intelligence. But here's the problem: the signs have been identified, but the mechanism for their implementation is completely unclear. And therefore it cannot be implemented either by software or hardware.
      1. 0
        2 September 2025 09: 11
        The signs are highlighted, but the mechanism of their implementation is completely unclear.

        I completely agree with you.
        hi
  16. +1
    26 August 2025 08: 04
    About twenty years ago, I probably read that the company Sun I invested in the development of the language in just one year Java $2 billion. And besides Java, she has many more similar projects. And how much should be invested in AI projects can only be guessed...
    1. +1
      26 August 2025 13: 24
      So you need to invest and demand results... and not do a quick and dirty trick or a quick and dirty trick. wink
  17. 0
    26 August 2025 08: 29
    It would be a stretch to call the development of information technologies, primarily the Internet, a semblance of a revolution. But this is only an accelerator of communications and a means of achieving a certain level of comfort and mobility.

    Wow, you've got an owl stretched onto a globe. According to your terminology, AI is just "an accelerator of information processing for a certain level of comfort". )))
    By the way, from my experience using chatgp, I can say that I was not impressed. He makes up facts, contradicts himself... well, that is, except for the speed of response, there is no difference between asking the chat and chatgpt.
    As they said - the whole point is that the computer is simply trying to guess what you want to hear from it. So if you don't have natural intelligence, then artificial intelligence won't help you much... well, maybe replace it. winked
    1. +2
      26 August 2025 10: 38
      Quote: Engineer
      So if you don't have natural intelligence, then artificial intelligence will do the trick for you. it won't help much...

      And if there is, it helps a lot. And it should be noted that AI models evolve and update very quickly.
      1. -1
        26 August 2025 10: 53
        Well, how much does it help... to dump on him a routine like "write a pompous and full of water introduction to an article about AI, appealing to great scientists." Yes, here the result is acceptable.)
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      0
      27 August 2025 00: 59
      use as intended, search, count, categorize. Scripts are no longer available
  18. +2
    26 August 2025 08: 32
    Well, here's another strange thing. If you want to make the country strong and independent, as you say. And you don't care about your alternative to Windows, Smartphones, element base and of course AI, which is very important, then what are all these conversations about? We judge by actions, not by conversations.
    1. 0
      26 August 2025 08: 59
      If you want to make the country strong and independent

      Can we look at such a strong and independent country? laughing So that everything is just my own
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 17: 49
        It should be adequate to the situation. And don't you notice that in Russia everything is somehow inadequate in this regard? And the fact that such decisions are made from above. It should at least be more or less. Or according to your logic, if it is impossible to be 100 percent yours, then you can generally give up on everything? It's just an interesting train of thought. Yes, this is a direct question of the country's security, if at any moment almost everything can be stopped in the country if Windows or iPhones or Android, etc. are regionally turned off. And AI is strategic analysis and calculation of steps and collection of information. For a large state, this is extremely important.
  19. +1
    26 August 2025 09: 11
    With electricity and cooling in Russia, by the way, everything is good.

    10-20 years ago there was an excess of electric energy, now there is no more - especially in the south of the country...
  20. 0
    26 August 2025 09: 13
    If you are so afraid of AI, then invest in developments. Nabiullina has a lot of billions. I think 2-3 will be enough for the next few years.
    But there are two points. First, Medvedev's law on the copyright of foreigners in Russia. It makes any of our work meaningless. That is, the same AI, like any application software, depends on the rules of programmers' work prescribed in laws and instructions. Our rules do not allow for the organization of effective cooperation between people, do not take into account their rights and interests. Everyone is a slave to officials. And slaves not only do not reproduce, they also do not write programs. What bastards!
    Secondly, what do you think you are "feeding" the AI ​​with? Even the spotter on the front line does not have a direct line of communication with the assigned artillery. And not so much for technical reasons, but rather due to the whim of military officials simulating work and fanning the spy mania. And without a constant influx of relevant data, the AI ​​is useless.
  21. +2
    26 August 2025 09: 36
    Large language models are essentially an autocomplete function on steroids. Gives plausible looking answers with errors. The answers are different every time. I can recommend trying a calculator that works on this technology. Aesthetic pleasure guaranteed. https://calcgpt.io/

    90% of what is being said about AI now is pure info-gypsyism to increase the capitalization of specific IT companies to inflate the bubble. Once upon a time there was blockchain and crypto, then NFT images, etc.
    1. +4
      26 August 2025 10: 19
      Large language models are essentially autocompletion on steroids.

      These are fundamentally different things.
      I can recommend trying a calculator that works using this technology.

      This means that this model was trained not on the multiplication table/not only on the multiplication table.
      90% of what is being said about AI now is pure info-gypsyism to increase the capitalization of specific IT companies to inflate the bubble.

      I solve problems on general topology with Gigachat. Even if he makes mistakes, he says things that are worth thinking about. In the problems I asked him, he made mistakes quite rarely.
    2. 0
      26 August 2025 12: 27
      You are talking nonsense. We do not spare 30 greenbacks, connect to ChatGpt5, use it for our professional field
      1. -1
        26 August 2025 13: 56
        professional field this is too narrow a specialization
    3. 0
      26 August 2025 17: 14
      Ivan Seversky
      At least one sane voice. I agree! AI is another excuse for "development and embezzlement". Here, in addition to the big inflating bubble, there is another threat. A fair share of young people around the world have decided to turn off their own intelligence, replacing it with random number generators called ZPT and deep sik
    4. 0
      26 August 2025 17: 58
      Have you used chat gpt or a Chinese analogue? Yes, the principle of operation is simple. But we don't know what else is put into it. And modern models give cool results. Errors seem more special than random. Because it is clear that he often does the most difficult things correctly, but confuses elementary dates of birth and letters in surnames. He is taught to lie and manipulate. And they look at people's reactions
  22. +1
    26 August 2025 09: 38
    Artificial Intelligence: A War Russia Risks Losing

    It is extremely difficult to enter the process from the middle - and become a leader. Our lag in the development of AI, unfortunately, did not begin today. In those years, when this direction was just emerging, when the foundation was being formed - we chose the wrong position (see screenshot, Literary Newspaper, 1952)
    And, despite this, we had breakthroughs: in 2017, Moscow was ranked seventh in the world top of digitalization of "smart" cities, and in 2018 - first place in the UN "Electronic Government" rating. This is a very prestigious result.
    Unfortunately, with the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict, a lot has changed, and it’s not even about the sanctions themselves, but about a rather simple thing - the SVO forced us to reshape the budget, other priorities appeared, many programs were either frozen or closed altogether, and when we will return to them is unclear
    1. +3
      26 August 2025 10: 04
      In 2017, Moscow ranked seventh in the world's top digitalization of "smart" cities, and in 2018, it ranked first in the UN E-Government ranking.

      Absolutely right. This is a very high-quality indicator, by the way, all based on borrowed technologies (a statement, not a condemnation).
      As for the article in LI in 1952 - it was just LI's opinion, it wasn't Pravda that wrote the law, was it?
      At the same time, cybernetics and related sciences were actively developing in our country.
      Historians have long paid attention to this fact: the existence of one (!) article and the creation of the Institute of Precision Mechanics and Computer Engineering (ITM and VT) of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 1948.
      I will not deny that in general our science lagged behind European (American), even in its best years of the Soviet period, what is surprising, when Newton discovered the laws of physics, Pustosvyat argued with Patriarch Joachim about how many fingers are needed for baptism... But the roots of the lag are not in 1952, but in 1991 - this is the point from which scientific and technical degradation began.
      1. 0
        26 August 2025 10: 21
        science lagged behind European (American), even in its best years of the Soviet period

        It depends on the area, it's a debatable question
        1. +1
          26 August 2025 12: 11
          It depends on the area, it's a debatable question

          I agree with you.
          With all my love for the USSR.
          It could be that even in one science: in one branch - lagging behind, in another - not or overtaking. The same is true for branches of industry directly dependent on science and its applied application.
          With all my love for the USSR: in chemistry, electronics, mechanics...materials science...
          hi
      2. 0
        26 August 2025 10: 28
        I never claimed that this continued and continues to this day.
        Yes, by the end of the 50s, cybernetics was justified and recognized as a promising direction.
        But before that, so many lances had been broken...
        Quote from Science and Life, 1953:
        “Cybernetics is thus a reactionary mechanistic theory, which seeks to throw modern scientific thought, based on materialistic dialectics, far back to the mechanistic philosophy that was outlived and refuted more than a hundred years ago.

        All this was
        The main thing is that we managed to overcome it.
    2. 0
      26 August 2025 17: 12
      Literary bullshit will write you even worse. Everything was fine with AI in the USSR. I even studied it at the institute. By the way, now the world has gone crazy with neural networks, and buried all other options. And by the way, they work much better and make fewer mistakes. That's all we studied at the institute back in the late 80s - early 90s.
      SVO has nothing to do with it at all. All the profiteers from domestic IT have been sawing off budgets for AI for a long time. And everyone has long become victims of AI in the form of banking applications and marketplaces.
  23. -1
    26 August 2025 10: 22
    We have a national idea to pump and sell oil and gas, while simultaneously extracting gold and other minerals. Sometimes building nuclear power plants and selling weapons.
    And what kind of artificial intelligence are you talking about here? "We don't need your internet!"
    1. 0
      26 August 2025 12: 32
      In Italy there is the mafia, in Russia the mafia has the whole country. The profiteers don't need AI, they need a golden toilet.
  24. 0
    26 August 2025 12: 02
    In the first case, we will get instant calculations of everything in a row,
    - Oh really? 🤣
  25. 0
    26 August 2025 12: 29
    I remember how the same thing was said about nanotechnology, and Rusnano was created to solve this problem.
    1. 0
      26 August 2025 14: 38
      the same thing was said about nanotechnology, and they created "Rosnano"

      this is a substitution of concepts: Rusnano was created with the goal of "grabbing at the trough" - for which no one will be punished, and not the creation of "nanotechnologies" - they are created by people "different" in thinking...
  26. 0
    26 August 2025 13: 05
    In terms of AI, we, like China, are extremely dependent on Western technologies, in particular on the hardware on which this very AI is trained. The same Chinese deepseek uses American NVIDIA video cards for training, despite the fact that they have their own training algorithm. If you are interested in what AI is, register on deepseek.com and go ahead, it is free and available from us. This is the first model I have encountered and it is quite powerful.
  27. 0
    26 August 2025 13: 23
    in the development of a quantum computer and thermonuclear energy. In the first case, we will get instant calculations of everything
    Nothing of the sort: there aren't that many quantum algorithms. And the hype is because there is a quantum algorithm that reduces the complexity of the problem on which asymmetric cryptography is based from exponential to polynomial (or, in general, linear - I don't remember exactly). Cryptosecurity is gone. And so is Bitcoin.
    Terabytes of information are driven under the “hood” of the neural network, which subsequently crystallizes into new knowledge.
    Regarding new knowledge - it is too optimistic. It just somehow knows how to apply the downloaded knowledge (which is already good).
    This was enough to form a unique algorithm, which can now be used to predict the three-dimensional structure of a protein.
    Protein structure has been calculated for a long time without neural networks. The problem is that this required the most powerful supercomputers - at least pentaflops. A neural network can do something similar on more modest equipment, but the result may not be very good (by eye, as a person would say about this process).
    All modern Russian AI, which is widely advertised, either has nothing to do with intelligence at all, or uses an imported core
    Giga.chat, Alice... What an imported kernel.
    Artificial intelligence does not come out of thin air – its operation requires, firstly, supercomputers, and secondly, huge amounts of electricity.
    Not quite so. To train AI, supercomputers are required, but for application, everything is much more modest.
    With government backing, the trio of OpenAI, Oracle and SoftBank are planning to spend up to $500 billion on the project and have already begun construction on the first phase in Texas. The network of computing centers is meant to be the foundation for next-generation AI systems.
    They may change their mind. The thing is that there is nothing to train the AI ​​on. Because of this, ChatGPT 5 has problems - there is growth, but the quality is not growing, people are demanding to return ChatGPT 4o.
  28. -2
    26 August 2025 16: 14
    AI will eventually turn out to be as empty as nanotechnology, without a huge amount of energy, all these AI and DATA CENTERS will be reset at the snap of a finger
    1. 0
      30 August 2025 21: 37
      Smart people already understand that modern and so-called AI is more a distorted reality than an augmented one. And that a super computer, that Quantum is in any case binary logic and the impossibility of working with arrays of differently dynamic flows in the process. Only completely unintelligent people do not understand that the analysis is based on variable combinations and the search for optimized algorithms. That is, data arrays are oriented towards flow processes in physics, and computational processes in mathematics are particular solutions that are not capable of analyzing arrays of dynamically changing variables.
  29. 0
    26 August 2025 16: 34
    Quote: Cube123
    The term was introduced in 1994 by the founder of fuzzy set theory, Professor Lotfi Zadeh.

    The professor coined the term "soft computing". He didn't call them "algorithms". And even your revered Yandex doesn't call them "algorithms". Do you understand the terminological difference between "algorithm" and "computation"?
  30. -3
    26 August 2025 17: 08
    Fedorovism again. Here planes are crashing, the car market is dead, food prices are rising, banks don't know how to pay interest on deposits, and Fedorov clearly lacks intelligence.
    All over the world, they have built a gigantic financial pyramid for "development and cutting up" under the brand name "artificial intelligence". A huge bubble is being inflated, which is about to burst and bring down the world economy. It is not for nothing that "there" they are preparing for war at full speed - it will write off everything. And the next Gates and Tillys will buy themselves new islands.
    And also, this AI of yours is just a SUPERSTRUCTURE. There must be a BASIS on which it will work. Just as the most brilliant brain does not survive in a dying body, so the most mega-intelligence is of no use if the infrastructure is falling apart.
    And also... let Fedorov talk to all these Alices and Salutes. The next day they won't remember my cat's name. And God forbid they be trusted to manage something without human participation...
  31. -2
    26 August 2025 17: 25
    Nonsense. And all the comments are nonsense too.
  32. -3
    26 August 2025 18: 27
    [quote=Civil]1. It is very difficult to explain to grandpas
    Listen son, everything you use, a phone, a computer, even the paper you wipe your ass with, was invented by your grandfathers, you haven't invented anything yet, absolutely nothing. That's why you can only push shit through the pipes with your breath.
  33. -1
    26 August 2025 19: 14
    we still have a problem - smart young people dream about the West and when the opportunity presents itself they go there... there are still great scientists, but without support you'll have no luck
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      0
      27 August 2025 01: 03
      They pay there and there is no mobilization. Why not leave?
  34. 0
    26 August 2025 19: 51
    AI is a potential assistant, but not a winner. The reality is that it is artificial, not real. Take the same myth about "unmanned" cars and where are they? They still don't drive without a person next to the steering wheel, and if they do, they run over pedestrians. The same will happen with AI for military purposes - without a person - nothing will be achieved. Human brains - or rather their neurons - have been trained for millennia and believing that some computer network will master this experience in a few years is simply stupid. It doesn't work and this is obvious. True, you can make money from investors on this. And this is done by smart guys with normal brains, not with AI!
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      27 August 2025 01: 05
      AI will never be perfect. It just needs to become better than humans. And in many ways it already is.
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      27 August 2025 09: 52
      The muscular system was also created and developed over centuries.
      However, it took a little time for man to replace heavy muscular labor with a hydraulic system.
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    27 August 2025 00: 33
    1 there is no element base for a large AI 2 it is necessary to conduct another forced mobilization and throw specialists with a reservation once again, then the personnel will come. Or not?) 3 for AI we need tasks and very serious experienced individual managers-organizers with a specialized education and specialized experience, who will work according to the publicly announced task without additions and will not be afraid of imprisonment for this very reason. But for now I do not see any of this. Bury
  36. -2
    27 August 2025 02: 02
    The thing is that it is not quite right to consider chat-gpity as a successful project. It is not an atomic bomb and the result is not obvious.
    Just as going into space itself does not give a direct advantage over competitors, but having satellites in space gives such an advantage.
    There should be an obvious result of such a gpity. Then yes, we should strive to create data centers.
    Or go your own way, where those same Olympic winners see the obvious result of a breakthrough as in the atomic project.
  37. -1
    27 August 2025 09: 10
    He doesn't take risks, he will lose. There are no prerequisites for success.
  38. 0
    27 August 2025 10: 17
    AI is a new and more expanded worldview and, accordingly, a new level of understanding and decisions made and, of course, the decisions themselves. Therefore, those who invest huge resources in this topic realize the importance, first of all, of discoveries in this field of knowledge. Why discoveries? Because AI is primarily about mathematics and methods of working with big data. Modern specialists do not always understand that theoretical knowledge in the exact sciences must be able to be accurately reproduced by data processing machines. This means that the foundation of the transformation must be the transition from the binary logic of machine operation, and this is the foundation of computational mathematics on functions of variable value of Number, to the logic of machine operation on all numbers of the natural series, and this is work on functions of constant value of Number. And surprisingly, it is in the FPZ that the possibility of appealing to incredibly huge variables in their precise definition in the array of the entire process is hidden. Complex and tense times always open up the opportunity to make new and necessary breakthrough discoveries.
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      2 September 2025 04: 03
      Quote: gridasov
      Modern specialists do not always understand that theoretical knowledge in exact sciences should be able to be accurately reproduced by data processing machines. This means that the foundation of the transformation should be the transition from the binary logic of the machines


      Deeper and deeper. Much deeper. Before mathematics and exact sciences, the AI ​​problem must be solved by philosophers and neurophysiologists. Mathematics only IMITATES the real process in a simplified form. And in order to have something to imitate, the process must be isolated from the general environment and consistently described in terms of the simplest formal logic, formalized.
      Accordingly, to model human intelligence (and we have not yet found another intelligence) we need to solve all these problems for human intelligence. And we have not even come close to this. In addition, the Turing machine is not suitable for intelligence. Our brain works on a completely different principle, does not have an ALU, so we do not need to increase the volume of our brain to expand our knowledge base, and the complexity of the processed models is not directly related to the speed of obtaining the result.
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        2 September 2025 11: 37
        YOU are absolutely right, but only in the case of applying computational mathematics. BUT I am talking about distributive mathematics that allows working on constructing a multiplicity of variable solutions and searching for algorithms for optimized solutions. These are completely different mathematical principles for distributing super-big data, especially in their dynamics. Scientists understand little that both the entire space of interactions and the human brain are subject to lawful algorithmic processes of interaction that can be expressed by a number as a code. And this can be displayed on the basis of numerical interactions. But, moreover, a Number can be separated from a symbol and this means that it can be used as a unified tool for quantitative, geometric and potential parameters. Therefore, the key tasks were to build a system of integer values ​​and continuity, as well as a structure of dynamic transformations in order to preserve the continuity of algorithms. Therefore, I will note that philosophy and logical reasoning and, in general, all human activity and its elements of perception and implementation of abilities are a system of mathematical lawful processes. Humanity is in the process of not only a new physical reality, but also a new level of contact of its mind and consciousness with this reality. And without new and truly analytical abilities, a person will become unviable in the system of new arrays of distribution of big data, and simply new levels of reality.
  39. -2
    27 August 2025 10: 42
    Quote: gridasov
    It is in the FPC that the possibility of appealing to incredibly huge variables in their precise definition in the array of the entire process is hidden

    The rotor of the field, like a divergence, grades itself along the back and there,
    inside, turns matter of matter into spiritual electric vortices, from
    which is where the synecdoche of response arises...
  40. 0
    27 August 2025 15: 34
    We need AI like we need air!
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      28 August 2025 12: 13
      is this some kind of joke?)))))))))
  41. -1
    27 August 2025 15: 59
    A somewhat superficial article, which well reflects the general level of the World Psychosis called "Artificial Intelligence" (AI). laughing In principle, I say this as a specialist - a programmer with 30 years of experience and an academic degree for writing control programs for our devices at CERN. Everything bad that you wrote here about the entire aristocracy that has ruled Russia for 30 years - is completely consistent with my opinion. Which is proven by simply listing the nightmarish results of such bad management/governance in all areas and industries: from medicine (popular/publicly accessible) and education (now generally inaccessible and now low-quality) to almost all industries: from the automotive industry to machine tool and instrument making. There is no need to even talk about the production of computer equipment. During the 40-year total rule of all these Chubais-order bearers in Russia, NOT a single full-cycle mass computer production has been created! Not a single one! With all their vile and continuous lies about "innovations" and "nanotechnology". Even Russian "super-computers" are assembled from components produced in Asia. Machines for the production of processors have not been created. NOT A SINGLE Russian Operating System has been created in Russia, either for full-fledged computers (large and small), or for smartphones/communicators. (Alpha-Linux based on the quite hostile Linux cannot be applied to Russian products - the interface has been altered). And NOT A SINGLE compiler of the main programming languages ​​for these operating systems has been created. This is a FACT = TRUTH, reflecting reality. And as our M.V. Lomonosov said: "those who cannot do small things will not be able to do big things either." Yes, outstanding Russian specialists have participated and are participating in all key productions on this topic, but they do it exclusively OUTSIDE of Russia. You yourself wrote about the reasons for this here, in summary, the main reason is the absolutely worthless Russian managers - from the middle to the highest level: illiterate self-interested people like Chubais and Co. See how the current Russian aristocracy was simply a conductor of the World Plan of the World Government for Privatization - the result of the work of German economists, the video has been consistently removed from all Western and some Russian repositories [media=https://vk.com/video10903462_456239384]
    Now about AI. You know, there's nothing to worry about here. laughing tongue The level of stupidity and illiteracy of top managers has become almost equally prohibitively high in almost all the so-called "civilized countries" of pro-Western liberalism, which, naturally, includes Russia - in terms of the orientation of its ruling class, which worships the West. The fact is that, from the point of view of REAL science - AI is a complete dummy. Which will not give any useful and tangible results. I will give just one example that shows this well. Even during his first term, D. Trump unleashed the "Moon race". So what? Where is the "greatness of artificial intelligence" in its implementation? Back in November 1, I gave a report in our laboratory on the Moon (since we are associated with the corresponding instrumentation). The conclusions there were as follows: "...apparently, this was the reason and pretext for the US administration to put forward ideas about the exploration of deep space several years ago. They decided to start with manned flights and the construction of habitable stations on the Moon and Mars. For the practical implementation of such plans, however, it is necessary to practically solve several extremely difficult technical and technological problems. Without solving any of them, all ideas about the exploration of the Moon and planets will remain empty chatter. There are several of these unsolved technical problems, the main ones being: 1) the lack of a rocket and/or engines suitable for the fast and reliable interplanetary movement of large human crews, 2) there are no power plants for alien stations, 3) there are no technologies for alien construction, 4) there are no implemented options for life support systems on other planets: from disposal systems (sewage), water/air generation and power supply 5) the level of background radiation exceeds that of the Earth by approximately 100 times (on the Moon) orders of magnitude..." This last point is directly related to the work and tasks of our laboratory...
    And what - did the "great AI" help solve at least one of these problems? Not at all: the benefits of AI in practical complex problems are complete and absolute 0. In terms of usefulness in this area, we can only talk about the improvement of specialized subject computer programs - and nothing more. These are the ones that bring real benefits. Machine vision and pattern recognition programs, search and systematization programs, large data processing programs in general, equipment control programs, etc. So, regarding the "superiority of AI" - according to the old Soviet joke: "No need to worry - no need to fuss: the torpedo passed by." laughing Let them there - the West, maddened by its own greatness and stupidity, spend all their stolen trillions, all their energy on improving the confused and senseless AI game programs, which will only lead to their own destruction. This is the same senseless and destructive roulette as the huge energy and industrial costs of cryptocurrency mining! So spit on all this nonsense and dirty tricks of AI. We, still normal people, have another joyful event: the brilliant and glorious blonde Taylor Alison Swift is getting married. To lift your spirits and mood, I highly recommend her concert "Eras Tour". love drinks You can't listen to this on your smartphone: download this high, uplifting poetry and music to your computer - and forget about the nonsense with AI. It's just a pity that with us - with the current nobility, nothing like this can even come close, just like with computers - with the Chubaisites, that is ...
    [media=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Drdkt6uvCWldvW6k_b-yCrMoXFBxvP9e/view?usp=sharing]
    password to open rar archive: Muzika_2023
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      27 August 2025 16: 31
      Science is the lot of the chosen ones. Real AI works on finding optimized solutions with many input variables. In other words, this is a huge process of systematization of data and, most importantly, an energy-efficient process. Energy efficiency is possible only if the process of inputting a bit of information is untied from a single electromagnetic pulse. And first of all, it is necessary to understand how the mathematical mechanism of distribution and scaling of data works.
  42. -2
    27 August 2025 20: 46
    Let's not forget, computing power is just a powerful calculator, without an advanced PI it is a calculator and vice versa, without these powers an advanced PI is an ordinary smart unit, yes, superior to a person, but not critical, only in combination it will work.
  43. -2
    27 August 2025 20: 51
    instantaneous calculations of PI commands and transmission of commands throughout the country, the power itself is defective - it cannot claim to be a full-fledged PI, PI without this power will not be able to perform its functionality in full.
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    2 September 2025 14: 58
    Well, you're exaggerating about "risks". As they say, it's too late to drink Borjomi...
  45. -1
    23 September 2025 15: 34
    Risking losing was relevant in 2008 :)
  46. 0
    10 November 2025 16: 48
    As far as I've personally followed the topic, the situation with the so-called "AI" is quite ambiguous.
    To start with, a couple of sources.
    The same CyberGrandfather claims in his videos that he's already encountered the low reliability of his results. The point is that AI analyzes, among other things, "data" generated by itself or other AIs. And as this data grows, the value of the AI's work diminishes.
    Vodovozov, a former military doctor, also featured in the videos, claims he's already encountered AI shaping responses to a desired outcome, even going so far as to invent "research" and cite its own invented results. Vodovozov, however, says that when using AI, a direct prohibition against fabrication must be included after each line, meaning only real research must be considered.
    This is one side of the problem, a decrease in the reliability of the data.
    The second side.
    As competition grows, the effectiveness of other AI systems will be undermined in similar ways. EVERYONE is interested!!! That is, by introducing false data.
    I'll add something on my own. Think back to the internet, say, 20 years ago. It was a real source of information. Invaluable.
    As blogging and other social media platforms like TikToks grow, the internet is becoming, if not becoming, a garbage dump.
    And it is not always possible to distinguish fiction from reality.
    Who will handle verification? And is it even possible given the exponential increase in data volumes of all types and varieties?
    At this point in my reasoning, I can conclude that AI is a bubble. It's not worth seriously relying on. Yes, it might work for some narrow, specialized tasks, but will it provide the impetus for accelerated human development? Oh, that's not a given.
    There is also a much more realistic and, unfortunately, scary scenario.
    Bureaucracy. It's a very convenient tool for them. No need to think. No accountability. They simply impose a system of norms, rules, and laws on everyone, and that's it. And we'll sink ever deeper into Orwellian surrealism...
    If anyone thinks this kind of scenario is unlikely, I'm sorry to disappoint you. This scenario is extremely difficult to avoid.