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Russia will help India to build four destroyers of the project 15В

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Baltiysky Zavod will manufacture four sets of shafts for Indian destroyers of the 15В project, which are being built at the Mumbai shipyards to be commissioned in 2018-24, a source in the Russian defense industry told Interfax.


“According to the terms of the contract concluded between Baltic Shipbuilding Plant, FSUE Rosoboronexport and a foreign customer, Baltic Plant should produce four shafts in 2017 a year,” the company’s official website says.

The report notes that the first contracts for the manufacture of such products were executed at the beginning of 1990-s, the previous one - for the manufacture of shafts for destroyers of the 15A project (in the top photo) - in 2007-2009.

According to a source in the military-industrial complex of Russia, the shafts are designed for four destroyers of the 15В project, which are being built for the Indian Navy at the shipyards of Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) in Mumbai.

The agency interlocutor noted that engineers from the Northern Design Bureau (St. Petersburg) are participating in the development of the destroyer project.

Earlier, Indian Defense Minister A.K. Anthony (AK Antony) said that in January 2011, the Ministry of National Defense signed a contract with MDL for the construction of four new destroyers of the 15В project. Ships will be delivered on July 2018, 2020, 2022 and 2024.

The destroyers of the 15В project are the development of the 15 Delhi project. The ships are intended for the functions of the flagships of the operational groups and the support of the aircraft carrier group.

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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 18 2013 12: 17 New
    +9
    This is good, but how many similar ships are being built with us for our fleet. Wouldn't it be time to do this too?
    1. Russian
      Russian April 18 2013 12: 23 New
      +6
      We seem to have only sketches and layouts. We have now the production of corvettes and frigates has not yet been established, and you're talking about destroyers! Although I’m lying, it’s settled for foreign countries, 6 frigates have already been handed over to India ... We’re arming China, arming India, it’s really time to think about yourself
      1. sas78
        sas78 April 18 2013 12: 53 New
        +5
        believe me, and no one forgot yourself. Not everything is so smooth, of course, but the process has begun.
        1. UFO
          UFO April 18 2013 13: 27 New
          +2
          Damn, do not use this expression -
          Quote: sas78
          the process has begun.

          "shivers," than he then ends up being seen.
          1. Arberes
            Arberes April 18 2013 13: 31 New
            +2
            Quote: UFO
            Damn, do not use this expression -
            Quote: sas78
            the process has begun.
            "shivers," than he then ends up being seen.

            Yes ominous phrase!"THE PROCESS IS GOING"
            And like amen-"AND THIS IS THE MAIN POINT"!
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ April 18 2013 12: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      This is good, but how many similar ships are being built with us for our fleet. Wouldn't it be time to do this too?

      And do not we have ships? This Indian destroyer is the same size as the project 22350 frigates under construction in Russia and slightly larger than the 11356m project frigates under construction.
      So you do not need to envy foreigners, but you need to rejoice that our factories produce competitive products to the world level. Each foreign contract does not cancel the supply to our troops, but only gives an additional load on production capacities.
      Article plus.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes April 18 2013 13: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Gluxar_
        So you do not need to envy foreigners, but you need to rejoice that our factories produce competitive products to the world level.

        Yes, that’s how it is, speak correctly, but this feeling (envy) does not leave me, no matter how I try!
        The fact is that INDIA is developing the entire line of ships of its Navy.
        Aircraft carriers are built, frigates and corvettes and diz boats are bought and built on their own shipyards. We rented an atomic submarine (studying)!
        Now a new project; destroyers !!!
        Well, how can I not be jealous here ???
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 19 2013 02: 37 New
          -1
          Quote: Arberes
          Well, how can I not be jealous here ???

          Why call? You will correlate the availability of military equipment per inhabitant. India is 10 times less green than our country. And they have a "low base effect". Everything needs not only to be built, but also to be built. And this is a burden on the economy and on the population. It is necessary to build and develop both the army and the navy, but you should not go too far. Better to invest more in people in their quantity and quality.
      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 18 2013 13: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: Gluxar_
        This Indian destroyer is the same size as the frigates of the 22350 project being built in Russia

        Excuse me, but how did this destroyer of the "Delhi" type with a total displacement of 6200 (or still 6900) tons turn out to be equal to the project 22350 with a total displacement of 4500 tons?
      3. Russian
        Russian April 18 2013 14: 08 New
        +5
        We rejoiced in the 90s, when the Indians really kept many of our plants afloat with their orders, for which many thanks to them. But now, it’s more likely to the detriment of us now, the factories are loaded with foreign orders, we have already lost a lot of time, and now it is just vital to urgently build up the Navy, and we have some small series of ships of rank 2 and 3 in construction! Where does it fit? Of course, I understand that we still cannot compete with the USA, but China, India, Japan are already ahead of us, Germany, England, France have a lot of modern ships, Turkey is actively strengthening its forces, and we are all helping the rest. May be enough?! It’s not too late yet.
        1. patsantre
          patsantre April 18 2013 16: 39 New
          +2
          It is necessary to build new plants, and not to reduce exports.
        2. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 19 2013 02: 52 New
          0
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          We rejoiced in the 90s, when the Indians really kept many of our plants afloat with their orders, for which many thanks to them. But now, it’s more likely to the detriment of us now, the factories are loaded with foreign orders, we have already lost a lot of time, and now it is just vital to urgently build up the Navy, and we have some small series of ships of rank 2 and 3 in construction! Where does it fit? Of course, I understand that we still cannot compete with the USA, but China, India, Japan are already ahead of us, Germany, England, France have a lot of modern ships, Turkey is actively strengthening its forces, and we are all helping the rest. May be enough?! It’s not too late yet.

          The security of our country is primarily provided by completely different forces. Do not compare by simple quantitative comparison. There are no analogues of Boreev and will not be for a long time. You don’t need to build 40 destroyers and keep them if you can build one nuclear missile carrier capable of destroying all these 40 destroyers and all the ports and cities where they are / are being built. A reasonable balance of power is needed. I am sure that at this stage our leadership has not yet decided on the concept of the fleet and on the question of whether we need an ocean fleet. And therefore does not want to put all the eggs in one basket.
          What do we need for development? So that we will not be touched for at least 50 years. What do we need to protect? Fleet cover for our missile carriers in the Northern Arctic, from where we can bang on any opponent. For cover, a developed aviation and air defense are needed, for the country's security, powerful ground forces are needed. Here is the whole picture. Why do we need the fleet is not entirely clear, how it is not clear with whom we are to fight. The United States needs a fleet to control the supply of resources from around the world, China in order to secure its supplies, India needs its own, and plus they are all ready to fight each other. Russia is in a different position, we have everything inside. But we also have enemies on land and "instability". How will a fleet of 11 AUG help defend the southern borders or the Caucasus?

          So you do not need to be greedy, but you need to look at what we really need and what we are able to keep. To defeat the United States or the EU or China, we do not need to land troops or bomb their coast from aircraft carriers, we just need the rocket carriers to fire safely.
      4. Windbreak
        Windbreak April 18 2013 15: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Gluxar_
        This Indian destroyer is the same size as the project 22350 frigates under construction in Russia and a little larger than the 11356m project frigates under construction
        Displacement of 6800 tons. And the frigates of the project 22350 4500 tons
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 18 2013 14: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      This is good, but how many similar ships are being built with us for our fleet.


      We are reforming, we are not up to construction.
    4. Alexander
      Alexander April 18 2013 14: 41 New
      0
      And why do they have tents on ships?
    5. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 19 2013 01: 07 New
      0
      Isn't it time to help yourself ?.
    6. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy April 19 2013 15: 53 New
      0
      Let the shipyards at least have orders. We run in production - we will rivet our own bully
  2. gispanec
    gispanec April 18 2013 12: 17 New
    0
    What kind of project 15a? ... are there any characteristics? ... will someone post it?
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 18 2013 15: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: gispanec
      What kind of project 15a? ... are there any characteristics? ... will someone post it?



      Main characteristics
      Displacement 5500 t (st.) 6900 t (full)
      Length 163,0 m
      Width 17,4 m
      Precipitation 6,5 m
      Engines CODOG M36N 2 GTU DN-50 2 diesel KVM-18
      Power 54 000 HP [1]
      Speed ​​32 knot (max.) 14–18 knots (econ.)
      Cruising range 5000 nm (18 knots)
      Crew 250 (40 officers)

      weaponry
      Radar weapons "Frigate-MAE" BEL RAWL 3 × MR-212/201
      Electronic weapons D60, D61: GAS APSOH, HUMVAAD
      D62: GUS HUMSA, Thales ATAS
      Artillery 100 mm AU AK-100
      Anti-aircraft artillery 2-4 × 30 mm ZAK AK-630
      Missile weapons 4 × 4 anti-ship missiles X-35 "Uranus"
      2 × Shtil air defense systems 4 × 8 Barak air defense systems
      Antisubmarine weapons 2 × RBU-6000
      Mine-torpedo armament 1 × 5 × TA PTA-533
      Air Force 2 × Sea King Mk.42B
      1. Windbreak
        Windbreak April 18 2013 17: 29 New
        +2
        these are the characteristics of the 15 Delhi project, not the new 15A Calcutta
  3. Drappier
    Drappier April 18 2013 12: 19 New
    +2
    Well, I’ll say corny, you first need to build 4 propeller shafts laughing
  4. Manager
    Manager April 18 2013 12: 23 New
    +5
    Altruists are bad! Who would help us restore the fleet ????????????
    1. Pancake
      Pancake April 18 2013 12: 45 New
      -8
      We do not need to restore the fleet, but to build from scratch. Such a genius as Gorshkov at one time riveted an unified non-serial, non-existent analogue and tasks of shit, and we are busy with it and trying to sell it.
      1. Rebus
        Rebus April 18 2013 13: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Pancake
        He riveted an ununified non-serial non-serial analogue and tasks of shit, and we mess with it and try to sell it.

        What are Soviet-built ships that have no tasks. And what is unification in the fleet?
        You bolobol ....
        1. Pancake
          Pancake April 18 2013 14: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: Rebus
          What are Soviet-built ships that have no tasks.

          Have you forgotten about SSV-33? But besides him there is still a lot of trash, the 956th, for example ..
          1. Rebus
            Rebus April 18 2013 14: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Pancake
            Quote: Rebus
            What are Soviet-built ships that have no tasks.

            Have you forgotten about SSV-33? But besides him there is still a lot of trash, the 956th, for example ..

            Why didn't you like Ural? Based on your words, American floating radars are crap not having tasks. What's not to like about the destroyer?
            1. saymonz
              saymonz April 18 2013 14: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Rebus
              Why didn't you like Ural?

              They built it, but why didn’t find out. He sailed once for conservation, and then sawed.
              Quote: Rebus
              And what about the destroyer?

              Power plant type x whit. Poor boilers.
            2. Waterfall
              Waterfall April 18 2013 14: 44 New
              -2
              956 - boiler-turbine power plant, weak air defense ("Hurricane" and no "Rollback" for the NLC), weak PLO ("Platinum" and only 4 torpedoes). Let's say it looks extremely poor against the background of berks.
      2. Russian
        Russian April 18 2013 13: 59 New
        +2
        In my opinion, such trolls should be removed from the site. I’m looking at the news on other sites, so there they were completely divorced, although here you could take a break from this nonsense, but no, and now they got here.
    2. dany
      dany April 18 2013 14: 28 New
      +1
      "Manager: Altruists are shitty! Who would help us restore the fleet ???????????"


      No one will help us except ourselves.
    3. ixsus
      ixsus April 19 2013 00: 10 New
      0
      Nothing, nothing. At the time of Peter the fleet was not at all, built (though not without help), In the USSR, the fleet was also rebuilt. Yes, and now a little later we will rebuild.
  5. Genoezec
    Genoezec April 18 2013 14: 01 New
    +1
    By Blinomordy’s avatar, one can immediately see whose canine interests he represents.
  6. NIK 163
    NIK 163 April 18 2013 14: 06 New
    +1
    The news is good. If we don’t build at least we’ll keep personnel in the factories, and then we’re straining with it. It would be more fun to hear about the construction of our ships.
  7. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 18 2013 15: 53 New
    0
    Well, at least Yura Dolgoruky came out to frighten the enemy !!!!!!!
  8. darksoul
    darksoul April 18 2013 18: 33 New
    +1
    ships of a similar class themselves would not be in our way ... corvettes are good, but if we want to be a sea power, we need to build ships not on the coastal zone
    1. ixsus
      ixsus April 19 2013 00: 18 New
      +1
      In the near future, unfortunately, only corvettes and frigates. It would be nice if they sorted it out with 22350, but I think there will be no problems with 11356 R / M, because in the Hindus (Talwar) have already trained.
  9. de klermon
    de klermon April 18 2013 22: 14 New
    +1
    The news is generally positive: clear proof that since the construction of Delhi, India has not learned how to effectively build large ships on its own! Our technologies will be in demand for a long time, which means that we can improve these technologies for someone else's money, incl. to your advantage!))
    1. lecturer
      lecturer April 18 2013 22: 36 New
      0
      I agree, 100%! In addition, there is one receiver for the turner: 10 bolts are made "to order", and the "11th" is made from economized metal for yourself (just kidding, BUT share ...!).
  10. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 18 2013 22: 59 New
    +1
    I hope that in the event of a war, the Indians, if they do not become allies, will at least be neutral. Ideally, of course, you need to build yourself, from keel to klotik. No transfer of technology and experience - otherwise, it is a loss of competitive advantage. So it was in the Union, and the States are acting. Hindus, Chinese, Persians - one field of berries - "the east is a delicate matter" ...