Trump called Putin, informing him about the results of the meeting with Zelensky

Donald Trump called Vladimir Putin last night, taking a break from a conversation involving European leaders, Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said.

The telephone conversation between Trump and Putin took place before the end of the meeting with Zelensky and his European "support group", apparently by that time all the key topics had already been discussed. The American leader informed the Russian about the preliminary results of the negotiations, details were not provided. The presidents of the USA and Russia agreed to continue direct negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv, including raising the level of delegations of both countries.

The conversation lasted 40 minutes and took place in a friendly and warm atmosphere. Trump and Putin agreed to continue to contact on Ukrainian and other issues, including bilateral ones.

There is no new information about the meeting between Trump and Zelensky, judging by the statements being made, there is no point in talking about stopping the hostilities, they will continue. Which is what last night showed.

Trump himself called the talks with the "illegitimate" and European representatives "fruitful," stating that the meeting discussed security guarantees for Ukraine that European countries would provide under US coordination.

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[BAI]

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

[Lev_Russia]

The conversation lasted 40 minutes and took place in a friendly and warm atmosphere.

So what did these Europioids with a clown at the helm decide...??? Well, the friendly and warm atmosphere doesn't carry any semantic load... You can also kill your "partner" "warmly and in a friendly way" with an American smile on your lips...

[Alexander Odintsov]

In fact, we now have Crimea, a corridor to it, new territories and part of the Sumy region. After the deal, we will lose Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev, and of course Kyiv - our ancestral lands and most likely forever. Or there will be a new war ad infinitum. There will be a deal. This whole farce is needed in order to sell this deal to us as another rise from our knees.

[Revolver]

Quote: BAI

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

Well, we met Keitel in Karlshorst. Which, by the way, didn't stop him from being hanged soon after.

[cytadell]

Which, by the way, did not prevent him from being hanged soon after.

It is correctly noted, because "dear partners" are united in their opinion and actions. We say "illegitimate", and "partners" do not care about our opinion, they declared Putin a criminal. We annexed Crimea and Russian Donbass, and "partners" with a drug addict talk about the integrity of the country. Trump pretends to be a peacemaker, leading Russia by the nose, and Europe is preparing a guillotine for us.
To understand the level of hatred that our "dear partners" feel towards us, we only need to remember the Nord Stream, the Crimean Bridge and other incidents. The determination and anger of these "comrades" is clearly shown to the whole world in the examples of Iraq and Libya. And these are examples of strength. What can Russia do to counter this? Withdraw from Syria and Armenia!? Hold Minsk meetings!? Listen to Trump's proposals for a comprehensive ceasefire!? Funny and sad.
Objectively speaking, our capabilities are limited by our numbers. And to resist a billion Chinese, half a billion Americans and half a billion "dear partners" with one hundred and forty million Russians - well, that's like scaring a pack of hyenas with your bare bottom.
Or does it look different somehow!? Correct me.

[Paranoid62]

Quote from cytadell

Correct me

No... lazy. And here to edit is only to spoil.

Oh, yeah. Add "advertisement" at the end, at least that will make some sense.

[Stas157]

Quote: Paranoid62

No... lazy.

Threw it on and ran away. A paranoid person who tirelessly insults forum members under every article, pretends to be "lazy".

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Stas157

Threw it on and ran into the bushes

Well, why attribute your style to others? I responded to an obvious attack, what upset you so much?

Quote: Stas157

A paranoid person who tirelessly insults forum members under every article

And again, it's not true. Show the "insults", because the admin doesn't see them for some reason

[cytadell]

Having carefully watched the interview of Sergey Viktorovich, it gave me hope for mutually respectful cooperation and dialogue with the USA, sincere intentions of D. Trump. I really hope that he is a man of his word.
Ps: in part:

Trump plays the peacemaker,

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Listen to Trump's proposals for a comprehensive ceasefire!?

I take my words back.
Healthy friendship is always better than unhealthy ambitions!
Respect to the President and the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs! It is difficult to overestimate their efforts!

[eugen_caro]

when under their sensitive leadership the Union was being destroyed, their "integrity of the country", i.e. the USSR, somehow did not excite them...

[orionvitt]

Quote: Nagan

Well, we met Keitel in Karlshorst.

In Karlhorst Keitel signed the capitulation. Complete and unconditional. And Keitel was a completely legitimate representative of the command of Hitler's Germany. And it was not Stalin who met in person, but Zhukov. So to speak, by rank.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: BAI

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

We have recognized it for a long time... the issue here is something else, namely the inconsistency of our position.

If earlier, when asked about the meeting between Putin and Zelensky, the Kremlin and Putin himself said that the necessary CONDITIONS and preliminary agreements were needed + if we rewind time to the meetings of the Russian and Ukrainian delegations in Istanbul, then our demands included the withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the territory of the DPR, LPR, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson regions.

It turns out that the condition of the meeting between VVP and Zelensky was Ukraine's recognition of the territorial loss of 4 regions (within administrative borders!) + Crimea, and agreement with these conditions... + a separate topic was the neutral status of Ukraine and other important issues.

And what now? Ukraine refuses to withdraw the Ukrainian Armed Forces from 4 regions and proposes to end the conflict along the current front line + there is no talk of any neutrality if we are talking about guarantees with the presence of US or EU troops in Ukraine. What kind of neutrality is this? Even Ukraine's entry into the EU is already equated with NATO, given the policy that is being pursued in Brussels.

I won't even mention denazification and demilitarization, punishment of criminals... In general, Russia's position is very strange and too many concessions have been made.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

In general, Russia’s position is very strange and too many concessions have been made.

There's nothing strange about it.
As Trump says, so the guarantor will do. And no one will even listen to our best president of the galaxy.
Modern Russia is not even a shadow of the USSR, and the guarantor and Lavrov are not even a likeness of Brezhnev and Gromyko.

[topol717]

Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

As Trump says, so the guarantor will do. And no one will even listen to our best president of the galaxy.

Come on, genius, tell us what demands Putin made of Trump, you know everything, right? Then tell us what demands Zelensky made. You know everything.
Russia does not need foreign lands, it would be better to sort out its own, but the goals of the SVO will be achieved. Just like the status of the Russian language, the church, and the number of the army Ukrainey will be spelled out in the contract.

[ugos]

There was a myth that each subsequent proposal from Putin would be tougher and tougher, but in reality it turned out to be softer and softer, probably because Putin himself is becoming soft, under pressure from circumstances...

[Stas157]

Quote from: topol717

Russia does not need foreign lands, it would be better to sort out its own, but the goals of the SVO will be achieved

When were the lands of Malorossiya foreign to Russia? And how will you achieve the goal of the SVO without seizing the territory of Ukraine?

[fabrice68]

Le risque que Poutine fasse trop de concessions, n'existe pas, car Kiev et l'UE/GB restent sur leurs positions fermes et sans concessions (ce qui sert la cause Russe!). Il existerait, en effet, je pense, si Kiev faisait une petite concession territoriale (par exemple enlever ses troupes de la RPD), et là, il serait à craindre que Poutine accepte une treve (ce qui serait nuisible aux FAR, et briserait leur élan).

[Carmela]

[quote=fabrice68There is no risk of Putin making too many concessions, as Kyiv and the EU/UK remain firm and uncompromising (which serves Russia's interests!). In fact, I think there would be a risk if Kyiv made a small territorial concession (like withdrawing troops from the DPR), and then there would be a risk that Putin would agree to a ceasefire (which would damage the AFRF and break their momentum).. [/ Quote]
I always thought so too. The enemy's stubbornness is to our advantage today.

[topol717]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Ukraine refuses to withdraw the Ukrainian Armed Forces from 4 regions and proposes to end the conflict along the current front line + there is no talk of any neutrality if we are talking about guarantees with the presence of US or EU troops in Ukraine.

Where did you get this nonsense from? At least give me a link? Or your fantasies?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from: topol717

Where did you get this nonsense from? At least give me a link? Or your fantasies?

Evgenii, if you read not only our media but also English-language primary sources (starting with the video of the meeting, statements by Zelensky and European leaders), you would know that Zelensky is categorically against the withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the territories of 4 regions, + Europe is actively pushing for the introduction of its troops after the conflict has stopped.

In fact, the West agreed to stop military operations along the line of contact and is pushing its position in the details, and the devil, as we know, is in them.

Did you explain it clearly? And keep your rudeness to yourself, it doesn't make anyone look good.

[topol717]

Well, Zelensky has been making these statements for the last 4 years.
And did you also read how yesterday Trump put Ursula in her place, and then Merz and Macron? Or was it not profitable for you to read that?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from: topol717

And did you also read how yesterday Trump put Ursula in her place, and then Merz and Macron? Or was it not profitable for you to read that?

Trump only needs to stop arms supplies to Ukraine and prohibit the use of Starlink and other US intelligence data, but he does not do this... a good "peacemaker"? If Trump really wanted to stop, he would have done this first, but this is a circus... now Europe will simply pay for arming Ukraine.

Trump could also pressure Zelensky to publicly voice his consent to territorial concessions to Russia, but he did not do this... it is only known that Zelensky allows for a territorial exchange with the Russian Federation, but there are no specifics. He can change his tune tomorrow and say that he meant that the territory that is under the control of the Russian Armed Forces will remain so... and the territory (DPR, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson) that is under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will remain Ukraine. There is no change in his position on this issue... I admit that he will agree to an exchange of 1% of the Luhansk region, since this percentage is not very important to him, especially if other regions return, but in general everything remains the same.

Yes, and earlier, Zelensky was not against stopping military actions along the line of contact, but taking into account the ceasefire (for rearmament and strengthening of their positions), now the West has changed its position and wants peace, but on terms favorable for Ukraine and itself.

[Aleksandr21]

For reflection:

18 Aug 2025 22:32:41 UTC

Ukraine will pledge to buy $100 billion worth of American weapons, financed by Europe, in a bid to secure US security guarantees after a peace deal with Russia, according to a document seen by the Financial Times.

Under the proposals, Kyiv and Washington would also strike a $50 billion deal to produce drones with Ukrainian companies that have pioneered the technology since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022.

Kyiv has included proposals for new security agreements with the United States that have not been previously announced on a list of topics for discussion with European allies ahead of a meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump at the White House on Monday, according to four people familiar with the matter.

The document does not specify what weapons Ukraine is requesting as part of the deal, but Kyiv has made clear its desire to purchase at least 10 American Patriot air defense missile systems to protect its cities and critical infrastructure, as well as other missiles and equipment. The document does not specify how much of the drone deal will be procurement and how much will be investment.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: Aleksandr21

In fact, the West agreed to stop military operations along the line of contact

The West is stupid. The West has been told a hundred times that this is necessary... only for the West. And since it is so, it will not happen.

Trumpushka has problems now - there is not much time left before the meeting in Beijing (where he really wants to go), and he needs to somehow resolve the problems with Z&Z (Zelensky + the West)... well, let him decide for himself.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Aleksandr21

the issue here is something else, namely the inconsistency of our position

Don't confuse the West's wishes with Russia's position. So far, no one has said anywhere that Russia's position has changed even one point. Even if a hypothetical meeting between Zelensky and Putin takes place (which Putin did not rule out from the very beginning), it will not change anything. Because the West did not start the war in order to end it. As long as Americans and Europeans do not die in commercial quantities, as long as Russian missiles do not fly into Europe, the war will continue. And for now, there is only political chatter around Ukraine.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: orionvitt

So far, no one has said anywhere that Russia’s position has changed even by one point.

Of course, this was not officially reported. But... there was information in the English-language media that Russia was ready to make concessions, and from senior US officials (where Russia made concessions in five regions), they say Russia agrees to a freeze in the Kherson/Zaporizhzhya regions and a complete withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Donbass.

Has the Kremlin commented on the statements by US officials on this issue? No.

Also, not long ago there were negotiations in Istanbul, we know Russia's demands from our negotiating group... and the answer of the President before the negotiations with Trump was that there were no conditions for a meeting with Zelensky, and it was precisely the demands of the Russian side in Turkey that were the conditions for such a meeting (at that time).

And then it turns out that Trump talked (yesterday) on the phone with VVP, and is preparing a trilateral meeting, if this is so, then the position of the Russian Federation has already changed for the meeting with Zelensky. If earlier Zelensky had to sign an agreement with our conditions, now this is only a discussion of territorial disputes, and it is not a fact that it is on our conditions. Zelensky may mean "territorial concessions - territories that are under the control of the Russian Armed Forces" and not those under the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and this must be understood.

We'll see, of course, if the meeting between VVP and Zelensky takes place, then suddenly a miracle will happen and Zelensky will change his mind regarding Donbass and the city of Kherson/Zaporizhzhya, but something is very doubtful... most likely, either there will be a breakdown in negotiations (as we have already seen Zelensky behave with Trump during the first meeting), or the terms of peace will differ in detail... from those we have declared.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Aleksandr21

There was information in the English-language media that Russia was ready to make concessions

Trusting English-language media is the same as believing in Santa Claus. And the same as the statements of the highest officials of both America and Europe. Every day there is utter nonsense, bordering on idiocy, infinitely far from objective reality. If I took to heart every statement of Western media, of their politicians deprived of intelligence, if I even guessed what they meant, I would have either died of a heart attack or gone crazy long ago. So my advice to you. Be simpler and do not take too seriously the chatter of irresponsible Western politicians and especially their media.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: orionvitt

So my advice to you is to be simpler and not take too seriously the chatter of irresponsible Western politicians and especially their media.

Thank you, I'll try to follow him. It's just that with these Minsk/Istanbuls you start looking for a catch everywhere, and the statements on the other side are very different from our demands.

All that remains is to hope that we will put pressure on the West and not allow ourselves to be fooled.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Aleksandr21

According to a document seen by the Financial Times ... According to four sources familiar with the situation ... there were reports in English-language media that...

You forgot to quote the documents on the walls of the toilet at the Mukhosransky bus station and the authoritative opinion of Baba Klava from the fourth entrance.

[guest]

Quote: orionvitt

Trusting the English-language media is like trusting Santa Claus.

I agree, but unfortunately our media do not always tell the truth and here logic plays a cruel joke on us, because even if our media really lied, this does not mean that their media are telling the truth.

[AdAstra]

So our Chief "Danila Master" did not succeed in the Stone Flower in the form of a "small and victorious war with Kiev in 3 three", and the political, economic, demographic and other situations that have come and continue after that, what the full-time propagandists on TV and other official media did not "sing" about, demand the fastest possible completion of this action, otherwise "Bolivar will not bear two". So They have to "squirm like an eel in a frying pan".

[Paranoid62]

Quote from AdAstra

They have to "squirm like an eel in a frying pan"

Hurry up to you. Did you fix the printer, fiery fighter?

[1976AG]

Quote: BAI

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

I am more concerned about the territorial concessions we can make. There is too much talk about freezing the conflict over the LBS in the Zaporizhzhya and Kherson regions.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: 1976AG

There is too much talk about freezing the conflict over the LBS

A few days ago there was a lot of talk about some kind of air truce and here too there was a lot of worry, hysteria and stigmatization... Well, where is it? No one even remembers.

[1976AG]

I also want to believe that our leadership will not give in.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: BAI

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

VVP did not deny the possibility of negotiations with Zelepuka, but he noted two points:
1) How can Zelepuka conduct negotiations if he has, by his decree, prohibited himself from any negotiations with Moscow at the legislative level?
2) Negotiations can be held, but no documents can be signed, due to the end of Zelepuka’s presidential powers and his loss of legitimacy.
Apparently, he pointed out this detail in his conversation with Trump, since yesterday Trump directly pressed Zelensky with the question, like, "what now, if there is a war, then elections in Ukraine will never be held at all?" A clear hint that this won't work.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: BAI

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

I would watch such a meeting with interest. If Zelensky was clearly uncomfortable at yesterday's meeting, in the presence of the delegation of "allied Europe", then what will happen when instead of this delegation there will be (how terribly friendly) Putin...

But, I think, this meeting most likely won’t take place; there are a million+ reasons for that.

[carpenter]

Quote: BAI

Trump is persistently pushing the idea of a 3-way meeting. So, should we recognize the illegitimate one?

But this is what Trump thinks, although he himself does not recognize “illegitimate”.

[Revolver]

The American leader informed the Russian leader about the preliminary results of the negotiations; details were not provided.

And under Biden there would have been no call. The meeting in the White House would have ended with another allocation of cash and in-kind aid to Zelensky, and a press release about how Ukraine must win on the battlefield, and the collective West will spare no effort (i.e. taxpayers' money) for this. And if Kamala had won, it would have been about the same.
As they say, feel the difference.

[FoBoss_VM]

Do you think that now everything will be different? Exactly the same, only in a different presentation. Alya, I am a peacemaker, it is not me, but all of them are Europe. In fact, weapons and ammunition and reconnaissance and target designation with satellite communications are all supplied in commercial quantities. The war is just beginning, apparently, Europe only needs to have time to prepare its military-industrial complex in full.

[Per se.]

Quote from: FoBoss_VM

The war is just beginning, apparently, Europe just needs to have time to prepare its military-industrial complex in full

Europe, apparently, is starting to pump up NATO, increasing military production. What have we got, in three years or so, with strategic reserves, with storage bases, with warehouses and arsenals? Probably, it was not because life was good that the DPRK needed help.
Why and why is everything done the way it was, starting in 2014, and then with the SVO? There have already been many excuses and justifications, but given what we have, we will finally empty the arsenals and bleed Russia dry, while NATO is preparing for war with us.

[FoBoss_VM]

That's what they want. It's clear they won't push it directly, given the nuclear weapons, but they can easily exhaust the country and bring it to the state of 1917. And we'll find someone here to destroy it from within, given how domestic policy and migration policy are being conducted. It's not for nothing that all this is happening.

[fabrice68]

Il faudra beaucoup de temps à l'Europe pour préparer ce complexe militaire, elle doit se réindustrialiser avant, ce qui est difficile avec des sources d'énergie chères, depuis qu'elle ne veut plus se fournir à la Russie!

[Per se.]

L'heure approximative du début de la guerre est 2028-2029. Si l'Ukraine nazie n'est pas finie avant cela. Pour l'Occident, les "lignes rouges" et les tentatives des négociateurs, c'est l'image d'un nouveau"colosse aux pieds d'argile".

The estimated time of the war is 2028-2029. If Nazi Ukraine is not finished before then. For the West, "red lines" and attempts at agreements are the image of a new "colossus with feet of clay".

[eugen_caro]

les russes armés ne vont pas bien non plus...-les anciens stocks soviétiques d'obus 152mm (l'un des principaux calibres) ont pris fin l'année 2023. il ya un peu en Transnistrie - mais la logistique est impossible... et les obus de ce caliber,fournis par des entreprises privées (qui étaient encore récemment publiques, mais les bons oncles du ministère de la défense de la Fédération de Russie les ont bien "privatisés") - une dispersion entièrement non conditionnée - sur 100 et plus de mètres...un peu aidé par les coreens - mais leurs livraisons se terminent également rapidement... il en va de même pour les autres positions. et bien sûr,il faut garder à l'esprit que la corruption des fonctionnaires russes fait parfois plus de mal que de l'ennemi.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ There is no new information about the meeting between Trump and Zelensky* ❞ —

— “The meeting was short and did not convey any meaningful information” ...

[Boris55]

But I didn’t even notice the elephant.

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

"The meeting was short and did not convey any meaningful information"

Putin, like a magician of diplomacy, turned all the red lines that liberals of all stripes had talked about for so long and so much into a red carpet that Trump rolled out for him.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

❝ Putin, like a magician of diplomacy, turned all the red lines that liberals of all stripes had talked about for so long and so much into a red carpet ❞ —

[AK-1945]

Trump called Putin, informing him about the results of the meeting with Zelensky

Well done! He called and reported. What next? What nonsense.

[Old Man57]

-Hello, Vova!-

-Hello, Don!-

--How are you in the Kremlin, are you holding up?-

-I am just fine! What about you, Donny?-

-I feel bad here, alone, in Alaska, against this gang of Euro-bandits from the highway, and the beggar Ze...-

I fill sorry for you, . Hold your ground! Never give up!-

-Thank you, Vladimir! Even my wife doesn't understand me as well as you do!-

-Come on to Moscow, Bro! Anytime! Stay safe! See you later! 10-4.-

[rocket757]

You can’t call it cooperation, but direct contacts, communication... it’s serious, in any case.

[aybolyt678]

I'm most interested in demilitarization and denazification, It's annoying. Otherwise, it's all in vain.

[Old Man57]

And demobilization is not yet visible on the horizon...

[anatolmd]

Quote: Alexander Odintsov

we will lose Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev,

And, in the future, Transnistria.

[eugen_caro]

which is very sad... - there are, in fact, people who are waiting for help. - hoping... as in Kherson, and in Kharkov, and in Dnepropetrovsk... well, and in the strategic aspect - Orkostan MUST be cut off from the sea - otherwise there will be no peace for Crimea - and not even from the Orcs - but from the Anglo-Saxons...