"Twos" and "Threes": Assault Tactics of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

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"Twos" and "Threes": Assault Tactics of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation


The most difficult task


Over three years of special military operations in the Russian Army, new approaches to conducting assault operations have been developed. These are the most difficult combat missions to perform, requiring high training and coordination from both the rank and file and the command. The first open publications on this topic have appeared in scientific and methodological literature, allowing us to generalize the combat experience of front-line soldiers.



Despite the fact that modern combat operations are primarily the work of small strike groups, a large number of servicemen are involved in providing an assault. On average, two or three howitzer batteries, 2-3 Grad MLRS, several automatic grenade launchers, mortars, anti-tank guided missiles, and systems are allocated to support an assault platoon. EW and a multitude of UAVs. The more of the latter, the better. In some cases, support is provided by the army and frontline aviation, suppressing pre-determined enemy firing points with high-precision weapons. Newsreel footage shows multiple hits by KABs and UMPK aerial bombs - most often, the strikes are immediately followed by assault actions. Also, optionally, regular "drone operators" units can be included in the work, supplementing their work artillery support for the assault.


What are the enemy positions? The trenches on the first line are very small - in the company's area of responsibility there can be from 3 to 5 people. The main forces are located in the depth of the defense. At a distance of 100-250 meters in the trenches there is a combat guard of up to 20-30 people. Even further - up to 400-500 meters - light artillery, drone operators, ATGMs, snipers and machine gunners. Heavy equipment on both sides of the front is currently used either from closed positions at a distance of many kilometers, or works direct fire from carefully camouflaged positions with the active support of electronic warfare.

It is worth dwelling separately on the enemy's tactics, which they pompously called killzone. The idea is to remove the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the front line altogether, replacing them with round-the-clock UAV duty and the work of strike forces. drones. In conditions of a total shortage of personnel, this seemed like salvation. The idea will soon be a year old, but the enemy was unable to organize anything similar. No matter how much they admire FPV drones, they cannot do without effective defense in the trenches. Therefore, on both sides of the front, classic weapons of warfare are in demand - ATGMs, snipers, machine guns, AGS, mortars, etc.

Each assault platoon is divided into three sections. The first is engaged directly in the assault, the second and third - fire support groups. In turn, each section is divided into elementary assault units - "twos" and "threes". As has been repeatedly mentioned on the pages of "Military Review", such logic of combat work was not born from a good life. Modern combat requires dispersal and maximum secrecy. This can be achieved only by the utmost individualization of offensive actions.

Given the low density of Ukrainian defense, it is increasingly common to see the attack line reach beyond the defenders' positions. This is especially typical for urban combat, when buildings and underground communications provide cover for the attackers. In small groups of two or three people, fighters infiltrate through the Ukrainian Armed Forces' defense line over the course of several days, secretly concentrate, and then attack where they were not expected. In particular, such tactics are used by the Russian Armed Forces in Pokrovsk.

"Twos" and "Triples"


Assault actions are preceded by an hour of artillery preparation, which smoothly turns into fire support. The attack line is up to 400 meters in front of the Ukrainian Armed Forces positions. "Twos" and "threes" must overcome the first 100-150 meters as quickly and dispersedly as possible, usually using personal mobility equipment. Up to electric scooters. The remaining distance to the enemy trenches is covered by running 6-8 meters and crawling. 100-200 meters can be allocated for this. According to surveys of military personnel, the main physical skill is considered to be the ability to quickly overcome obstacles.

It is very good if you managed to set fire to the grass and dead wood in the attack zone. This allows you to mask the assault and also neutralizes some of the engineering mines. When moving around the area, the attackers mainly keep to the edges of shell craters - this reduces the chances of being blown up by a mine.

In assault operations "at the peak" two things are extremely important. The first is powerful work of electronic warfare systems. The second is stable communication between the commanders of each "two" and "three" with the commanders of squads and platoons. Here we come to another bottleneck - automated control systems in the squad-platoon-company link. Commanders must have combat tablets, which receive intelligence information in real time and mark the location of their units. The platoon commander has an artillery spotter nearby and a pair of "Orlans" in the air. This is in addition to the "Mavics" of each squad commander.

During the assault, artillery not only directly suppresses the enemy's identified firing points, but also blocks the approaches of reserves. Two or three 82-mm mortar crews must be in constant combat readiness. If necessary, they are the ones who can open harassing fire on counterattacking units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the shortest possible time.


The most dangerous part of the assault trooper's job is to destroy the enemy in a trench. This often happens at knife-edge distances. Before moving along the bottom of the trench, a grenade is thrown in with a delay: the pin is pulled out, the lever is released, the delay is 1 second. The first number of the "two" moves in the trench in a squatting position, the machine gun in front of him. During the forced delay, the "kneeling" position is not taken, since it is more difficult to escape from a grenade and shelling than from a squatting position. The second number works slightly bent at full height, the machine gun is also in front of him. The second number cannot raise the barrel - the enemy can see him and simply throw grenades at the assaulters. The head should also always be below the trench line. If the assault is carried out by "threes", then the third number usually conducts observation or replaces the fighter during reloading.

By the way, about grenades, of which there should be as many as possible. At least one grenade is assigned to each bend of the trench and enemy hole. The second number is engaged in throwing grenades, and he must do this with one hand. To do this, the barrel of the machine gun is placed on the shoulder of the first number, the antennae are bent, the pin is hooked onto the machine gun and pulled out. At this time, the "twos" and "threes" of the fire cover squad protect the attackers in the trench from vertical envelopment, that is, an attack from above.

All of the above is not a dogma. Depending on the conditions, the number and training of personnel, the level of fire support, the assault tactics may change. Most often, it is not possible to meet all the requirements - in war, something is always missing. In all types of assault, the individual qualities and skills of the infantryman come to the fore. As can be seen from the description, a fighter in a modern battle performs the functions of a shooter, medic, scout, signalman and many others. Hence the special attention to the thoroughness of the preparation of assault units, which in recent years have become the real elite of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

Given the low density of the front, there is a high probability that assault units will operate in isolation from the main forces. The battle may not go according to plan, and assault units may be cut off from support. And there may not be enough forces and resources for a final blocking strike. Therefore, the autonomy of the assault aircraft's combat work is of particular importance - they must be able to survive for several days (or even more) both in operational and complete encirclement. The robotization of modern combat mitigates the situation. After assault actions (or after an enemy attack) and subsequent encirclement, fighters can receive provisions and ammunition by air. Or by land using self-propelled drones. This has been repeatedly confirmed in the SVO on both sides of the front.

The apparent primitivization of offensive actions with dispersed attacks by small forces is impossible without the coordinated work of the entire military machine in the frontline zone. Instead tank "Twos" and "threes" of highly trained fighters, with all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation behind them, are going to the assault in the form of wedges and massive air raids.
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  1. +1
    15 August 2025 05: 24
    I understand that things are generally known. But a couple of things flashed by. That it is better not to write about this. In general, this tactic came from the time of the 2nd Chechnya. It was simply nurtured in other units (these are those who do not go in herds, and sometimes you can only count on your own strength). And I think it is clear who the instructors are now.
    1. + 14
      15 August 2025 05: 50
      And I think it’s clear who the instructors are now.

      🤣I think you don't understand it at all. Our instructors are not at all what you thought. And they often teach what they saw on YouTube 🤣. I gave the author a plus - he made me laugh so much. Although he explains it correctly, but in terms of fire and air support, these are more our dreams.
      1. -4
        15 August 2025 05: 56
        Quote: URAL72
        And I think it’s clear who the instructors are now.

        First of all, you didn’t understand the idea and you’re too lazy to even insert a quote.
        Quote: URAL72
        but in terms of fire and air support, these are more our dreams.

        Well, some opportunities were available. But efficiency suffered greatly.
        Quote: URAL72
        I gave the author a plus

        And for me it's a minus. After all, I'm a Chechen. laughing good
        1. -3
          15 August 2025 07: 55
          Quote: Alexey_12
          And for me it's a minus. After all, I'm a Chechen.

          You're a sly one! I've already figured out how to use this in an argument. laughing
          1. -4
            15 August 2025 07: 59
            And then lol He already crawled out from under the table on foot. good tongue laughing
            Quote: Vladislav_V
            You're a sly one! I've already figured out how to use this in an argument.
            1. +2
              15 August 2025 08: 37
              How maneuverable and fleeting was the Great Patriotic War. And what a difficult trench war the Imperialist War was.
              1. +2
                15 August 2025 08: 52
                Yes, alas. The war is now positional. The shield is winning over the sword for now. A breakthrough is needed. But alas, it is not yet in sight. As VVP said 25 years ago, "and the path at the end of the tunnel is visible."
                Quote: Civil
                How maneuverable and fleeting was the Great Patriotic War. And what a difficult trench war the Imperialist War was.
                1. +1
                  15 August 2025 08: 55
                  Quote: Alexey_12
                  Yes, alas. The war is now positional. The shield is winning over the sword for now.

                  And just recently there was the "twelve-day war". And before that Azerbaijanis Karabakh was returned...
                  1. + 11
                    15 August 2025 09: 20
                    "Yard to yard". If we consider it exclusively in military terms. The Jews said - we are good guys too. They killed 50 thousand civilians. Of which - more than 2/3 were women and children. And they even sent air force to the children's room.
                    P.S. I have a lot of videos from Gaza. Which are not even in closed carts. If they tell me to take Jerusalem. I will go.
                  2. +1
                    12 November 2025 21: 10
                    This is not a fair comparison. The war in Ukraine is almost like a war with NATO (in terms of numbers and equipment).
                2. +2
                  16 August 2025 04: 11
                  You are again confusing what, how and why is being done. Here no one can explain in detail what, how and why such tactics. When will everyone understand - there is nothing identical in military actions and there can't be. Conditions, time and people cannot be absolutely repeatable. You are all thinking too narrowly.
              2. +7
                15 August 2025 12: 51
                Quote: Civil
                How maneuverable and fleeting the Great Patriotic War was.

                It depends on where. In the central part of the front, "battles for the forester's house" lasted for months. The Battle of Rzhev alone was worth something...
              3. +1
                25 August 2025 01: 22
                What a difficult trench war the Imperialists had.

                Despite everything, even during the "trench" WWI, the Brusilov breakthrough, up to 300 km deep, was beautifully conceived and carried out.
                Moreover, modern technology allows these 300 km to be covered in a few hours, before the enemy “comes to his senses” and begins to organize a new line of defense...
      2. +2
        15 August 2025 08: 25
        I was also surprised by the amount of forces and resources for the assault; actions in small groups are familiar, twos, threes, but in urban conditions.
        1. +9
          15 August 2025 12: 14
          The primitive tactics of assault groups are used only against partisans and have nothing to do with modern warfare. If someone thinks that SVO is a modern war because it is happening now, then good riddance to them.
          Against an unprepared enemy, or more precisely, against TRO fighters, the actions of assault squads can be successful. But against trained units, such actions lead to huge losses... We simply don't know how to do anything else in the SVO. The experience of Hero of Russia Alexander Alexandrovich Prokhorenko has taught no one anything. And how many of these assault troopers die every day? There are no assault troopers in modern warfare... Modern warfare does not last for years. But if the army is not prepared and does not have sufficiently modern means, uses outdated methods of warfare, then it turns out like in the SVO...
          1. -2
            15 August 2025 16: 49
            Quote: Okko777
            But if the army is not prepared and does not have sufficiently modern means, and uses outdated methods of conducting military operations, then it turns out like in the SVO.

            We are fighting with the enemy army, not with "civilians", that's why the results are so "modest". Do you think the Israeli army is prepared enough? They razed Gaza to the ground along with its civilians, just like the Americans burned Dresden. And don't forget who they were fighting against, do you think the TRO are worse than Hezbollah fighters? Where is the professionalism here? Maybe the Americans demonstrated modern warfare in Afghanistan? And technically, they are equipped beyond measure.
            1. 0
              17 August 2025 02: 36
              We are fighting with the enemy army, not with "civilians", that's why the results are so "modest". Is the Israeli army, in your opinion, sufficiently prepared?


              When Israel fought against enemy armies, rather than guerrilla warfare, it was a matter of days and weeks.

              Maybe the Americans were showing a modern war in Afghanistan?


              What exactly is wrong with the actions of the Americans in Afghanistan?
              1. 0
                17 August 2025 06: 52
                Quote: Tulus12
                When Israel fought enemy armies, not guerrillas

                For example, recently with Iran. Israeli cities were in tatters, Trump had to save them.
                1. -2
                  17 August 2025 09: 38
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  For example, recently with Iran. Israeli cities were in tatters, Trump had to save them.

                  So Iran's air supremacy with its free-fall cast iron bombing is such a victory for Iran? Did you learn such logic from professional Ukrainians?
                  1. +2
                    17 August 2025 10: 34
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    That is, air supremacy over Iran with bombing it with free-falling iron

                    According to Israel itself. But "having air superiority over Iran with free-fall cast iron bombing" Netanyahu ran to Trump a couple of days later screaming:
                    "Save us! Holocaust!"
                2. -1
                  17 August 2025 13: 28
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Israeli cities were reduced to pieces, and Trump had to save them.


                  Is this in some kind of alternate reality?
                  1. +2
                    17 August 2025 14: 44
                    Quote: Tulus12
                    It's in
                    real life. Alternate reality is where the IDF is a great army.
                    1. 0
                      17 August 2025 18: 54
                      real life


                      In real life, Israeli strikes on Iran began on June 13, and American strikes on Iran on June 22. Not "a couple of days later." And if on the 13th Iran responded by launching hundreds of shaheeds and about 150 missiles, then on the 24th, before the ceasefire, there were already a couple dozen missiles.

                      An alternative reality is where the IDF is a great army.


                      For a country of ten million? Who has it better?
                      1. 0
                        17 August 2025 20: 07
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        In real life
                        Such things are not done on the spur of the moment, preparation is needed, since real technology is not computer units, and in this particular case it all looked like a deal - first the US dropped bombs somewhere where there might be an underground research center, then Iran seemed to strike a US base, but somehow sluggishly.
              2. -1
                17 August 2025 07: 49
                Quote: Tulus12
                What exactly is wrong with the actions of the Americans in Afghanistan?

                That they are no longer there. And by selling heroin all over the world, some people made huge amounts of money.
                1. 0
                  17 August 2025 13: 29
                  That they are no longer there.


                  There is no Union there either. And no British either. They probably all fought badly.
              3. 0
                17 August 2025 08: 07
                Quote: Tulus12
                When Israel fought against enemy armies, rather than guerrilla warfare, it was a matter of days and weeks.

                And who did Israel fight with? With the Syrians and Egyptians, with the full support of the States, and yes, we were on the side of the Arabs, but the Israeli army then consisted of the best specialists who had gone through the Great Patriotic War.
                1. +3
                  17 August 2025 16: 21
                  And who did Israel fight with? With the Syrians and Egyptians, with the full support of the States


                  How was US support better than USSR support?

                  At that time, the Israeli army consisted of the best specialists who had gone through the Great Patriotic War


                  What other specialists from the Great Patriotic War? There was no mass migration from the post-war USSR, some relaxations only began in the late 60s. And the IDF command staff came en masse from the local Palmach.
                  1. 0
                    17 August 2025 18: 54
                    Quote: Tulus12
                    And the IDF command staff from the local Palmach came out en masse

                    What are you saying?
                    It was Soviet officers who created the army and intelligence services of Israel, but 20 years later they were forced to fight with their comrades in arms during the "six-day war" against Egypt, for which their former comrades fought. You just don't know, ask around.
                    1. +1
                      17 August 2025 21: 50
                      It was Soviet officers who created the Israeli army and intelligence services


                      Can you name these Soviet officers?
                      1. +1
                        18 August 2025 07: 46
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        Can you name these Soviet officers?

                        Конечно.
                        Red Army officers Isser Galperin and Naum Livanov became the founders and first heads of the Israeli intelligence services Mossad and Nativa Bar. The famous "three captains" - Nikolsky, Zaitsev and Malevanny - literally created the special forces of the Israel Defense Forces from scratch. The whole point is that the state of Israel itself was originally a "Soviet project", and not at all American or British, as some historians present it today. hi
                      2. +1
                        18 August 2025 19: 09
                        Red Army officers Isser Galperin and Naum Livanov


                        Galperin and his family left Russia in 1917 at the age of five for Latvia. He emigrated to Palestine in 1930, as a 17-year-old boy. When he managed to become an officer in the Red Army is a mystery.
                        Who is "Naum Livanov" and what is this "Nativa Bar" service is an even bigger mystery.
                        Well, who Nikolsky, Zaitsev and Malevanny are and what they are famous for is the mystery of the century.
                      3. 0
                        18 August 2025 20: 41
                        Have you read about Galperin on Wikipedia?
                        The Nativ Service is an organization that deals with repatriation and searching for Jews around the world. By the way, if you know Yakov Kedmi, he is the former head of this special service.
                        As for the "three captains" - they are simply qualified officers, perhaps even SMERSH, but that's not certain. And in your opinion, should they be generals?
                        There were actually a lot of Soviet military specialists of Jewish and even East Slavic origin, and it was thanks to them that the state of Israel came into being. I had a chance to work in Israel, I know one of our guys who has lived there since 91. So he told me that he knew a retired rear admiral, and he told him that without "Russian Jews" Israel would have been "doomed". If you don't want to believe it, don't believe it. It doesn't make me feel hot or cold.
                      4. +1
                        19 August 2025 02: 10
                        Service "Nativ"


                        Suddenly it's Nativ, not Nativa Bar.
                        So it turns out that Naum Livanov is Nekhemia Levanon or, in her "maiden name", Numa Levitan. Who was not a Soviet officer anyway, fortunately his family left for Tallinn back in 1922, and was not the first leader of Nativ.

                        As for the "three captains" - they are simply qualified officers


                        Who are these anyway? What kind of special forces did they create and when?

                        There were actually a lot of Soviet military specialists of Jewish, and even East Slavic, origin.


                        Well, we've already dealt with the two "military experts" who never lived in the Union to a conscious age.

                        If you don't want to, don't believe it.


                        Faith is something religious
            2. -1
              25 August 2025 01: 28
              Gaza was razed to the ground along with its civilians,


              And what have they turned Bakhmut into?
              The same Gaza, complete ruins unsuitable for life...
              1. +1
                25 August 2025 02: 26
                Quote: assault
                And what have they turned Bakhmut into?
                The same Gaza, complete ruins unsuitable for life...

                Bakhmut was turned into ruins along with its civilians? How many civilians died in Gaza and how many in Ukraine? You can rebuild a house, but you can't bring people back.
                1. 0
                  25 August 2025 11: 35
                  You can rebuild a house, but you can't bring back the people.


                  And who exactly was responsible for the evacuation of civilians?
                  The Ukrainian Armed Forces? They don't need it...
                  The musicians also did not publish any open data on the rescue of civilians...
                  And judging by the ruins of the city, there were plenty of victims, both among civilians and among the military....
                  1. 0
                    25 August 2025 16: 43
                    Quote: assault
                    And judging by the ruins of the city, there were plenty of victims, both among civilians and among the military....

                    The khokhloresources claim that 204 civilians in Bakhmut were killed, and it is profitable for them to inflate the civilian losses, attracting the attention of the West. Before the war, 80 thousand people lived in Bakhmut.
          2. -6
            15 August 2025 21: 38
            Quote: Okko777
            There are no stormtroopers in modern warfare... Modern warfare does not last for years.

            I suppose there should be a paean to the US army in Iraq... ? If so, sing it to the Taliban and Houthis, they'll laugh.
            1. +6
              16 August 2025 08: 45
              I suppose there should be some praise for the US army in Iraq

              And why not?
              Have you achieved your goals? You have! The country's army has been defeated in a short time, Hussein's regime has been overthrown. What else do you need?) Especially with such a large logistical lever.
              And we have Ukraine right next door, and somehow things just don’t work out.
              If so, sing them to the Taliban and Houthis, they will laugh.

              What is there to sing about? Both of them are useless lands inhabited by savages, with useless gangs.
              1. -5
                16 August 2025 08: 51
                Quote: Sanguinius
                And why not?
                Have you achieved your goals? We have!

                And what did NATO help Iraq with? They supplied it with weapons, mercenaries, professional soldiers, real-time intelligence?
                Quote: Sanguinius
                Both of these are useless lands inhabited by savages, with useless gangs

                Yes, yes, yes, and that’s why the US ran away from there with its tail between its legs.
                1. +5
                  16 August 2025 09: 04
                  And what did all of NATO help Iraq?

                  And who should care?) Why should this serve as some kind of excuse? Are we some kind of little kittens? Or a state laying claim to one of the most important places under the sun?
                  The state and the army are either ready for war or not. As it turned out, they were not ready.
                  The first few months there was nothing big from NATO)

                  Was he supplied with weapons, mercenaries, career military personnel, real-time intelligence?

                  Well, everyone has their own way... but looking for excuses on the side, well, that's kind of ridiculous. But accepting the SUCCESSFUL experience of a potential enemy and learning from other people's mistakes, on the contrary, is good. But as we can see, the bureaucratic machine of Russia has not mastered this task.
                  Yes, yes, yes, and that’s why the US ran away from there with its tail between its legs.

                  Well, naturally...what else would they do there?) They brought the people out and God bless them, these savages
                  1. -5
                    16 August 2025 09: 53
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    And who should care about this?) Why should this serve as some kind of excuse?

                    That is, there is nothing to argue.
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    The state and the army are either ready for war or not. As it turned out

                    the methods of maneuver warfare from the middle of the last century (*which the doomsayers pray to) do not work in the new conditions and had to be adapted, so now they are successfully putting pressure on the enemy along the entire front.
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    Well, naturally...what else would they do there?) They brought the people out

                    because there was nothing else to do but run away with my tail between my legs.
                    1. +7
                      16 August 2025 10: 33
                      That is, there is nothing to argue.

                      Why object? Only weaklings blame others, justifying their own failures, which is what you do so well... justifying yourself)
                      Russia is not exactly a banana republic either)))
                      methods of maneuver warfare from the middle of the last century

                      They remain relevant today, it’s just that some people don’t know how to maintain this kind of database.
                      so now it's successful

                      And on one side and on the other, people are being ground in the meat grinder of war, which has no end and no edge... and this tactic of positional warfare, just from the LAST century, some users here present as the highest military art! Cool "adapted", nothing to say)
                      because there was nothing else to do but run away with my tail between my legs.

                      Well, as you wish... since it gives you such pleasure to emphasize it)))
                      In principle, this is what happened before the USSR. And just recently, the same thing happened with today's Russia, which was essentially locked in a single airbase in Syria, the bastards. Who knows whether our people will be able to stay there or will also have to leave, having wasted a lot of money.
                      1. -2
                        16 August 2025 13: 39
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        What's there to object to?

                        That is, there is nothing, but at first there was an attempt at a primitive lie.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Only weaklings blame others, justifying their own failures, which is what you do so well... justifying)

                        Really?
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Both of these are useless lands inhabited by savages, with useless gangs

                        Tell the US about this.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        They remain relevant even today, it's just

                        You need to pick an enemy who is armed at the level of the last century.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        On both sides, people are being ground in the meat grinder of war.

                        How many of them were ground up during WWII - WWI is just smoking on the sidelines.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        In principle, this is what actually happened before the USSR.

                        And what about Gorbachev and the perestroika people in power in the USA?
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        And quite recently the same thing happened with today's Russia, which
                        The new Syrian government is trying to persuade them to resume patrolling.
                      2. +2
                        16 August 2025 16: 47
                        At first there was an attempt at a primitive lie.

                        I don’t know what kind of lies you saw in my words and what I lied about, but oh well)))
                        Really?

                        Absolutely! You're making excuses now!)
                        How many of them were ground up during WWII - WWI is just smoking on the sidelines.

                        That's true...only the warriors you mentioned do not belong to the standard of maneuver warfare
                        And what about Gorbachev and the perestroika people in power in the USA?

                        And that doesn't matter anymore)
                        The new Syrian government is trying to persuade them to resume patrolling.

                        This can hardly be considered an achievement. Well, let's see what happens next)
                        You need to pick an enemy who is armed at the level of the last century.

                        Well, Russia picked it up and, unfortunately, failed.
                        Tell the US about this.

                        What should they admit? And what should they say? They admitted that there was no point in fighting savages, so they left. The USSR did exactly the same.
                      3. -2
                        16 August 2025 18: 52
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        I don’t know what kind of lie you saw in my words and what I lied about.
                        That the US Army is such and such...
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Absolutely! You're making excuses now!)

                        And you don’t want to start with yourself:
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Both of these are useless lands inhabited by savages, with useless gangs

                        How touchingly you justify the failures of the USA.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        And that doesn't matter anymore)

                        That is, again there are no objections.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        This can hardly be considered an achievement.

                        Because it is Russia's achievement. It turns out that it is difficult here without it.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Well, Russia picked it up and failed.

                        Really?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And what did NATO help Iraq with? They supplied it with weapons, mercenaries, professional soldiers, real-time intelligence?

                        Well, as for how she “failed to cope”, ask those who are now surrounded in Konstantinovka, for example.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        What should they admit? And what should they say? They

                        They couldn't cope and ran away.
                      4. +1
                        16 August 2025 19: 00
                        That the US Army is such and such...

                        It's only in your imagination)))
                        I just pointed out the successful experience of the USA, which is stupid to deny)
                        Did the Americans offend you?)
                        And you don’t want to start with yourself:

                        No! It wasn't me who started making excuses and throwing arrows)))
                        True

                        Yeah!)
                        Well, how did she "fail"?

                        Of course they didn't cope... the war is still going on
                        They couldn't cope and ran away.

                        Let it be so, is it a pity?)))
                      5. -2
                        16 August 2025 20: 01
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        I just pointed out the successful experience of the USA, which

                        was demonstrated only against an obviously weaker enemy, who, moreover, had no desire to fight at all and had no support.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        No! It wasn't me who started making excuses and throwing arrows)))

                        True eyes hurts?
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Yeah!)
                        Will there be an answer to this?
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        And what did NATO help Iraq with? They supplied it with weapons, mercenaries, professional soldiers, real-time intelligence?
                        Apparently not.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        the war is still going on
                        And? If it goes, it means it's not over.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Let it be so, is it a pity?)))

                        You can't argue with the facts.
                      6. +3
                        16 August 2025 20: 22
                        was demonstrated only against an obviously weaker enemy, who, moreover, had no desire to fight at all and had no support.

                        Well, Ukraine is obviously a weak opponent compared to Russia. Oh, and here they also started making up stories about how the opponent wasn't even eager to fight.
                        True eyes hurts?

                        You should ask yourself that)
                        If it goes, it means it's not over.

                        And it wasn’t possible to cope with it in the shortest possible time)
                        And what did NATO help Iraq with? They supplied it with weapons, mercenaries, professional soldiers, real-time intelligence?

                        Well, you know the answer yourself, why are you acting like a fool?)))
                        Another thing is that you are still hiding behind NATO assistance, which was not there in the first months of the SVO. And this is actually not important, because if you have already gone after such an enemy, then be prepared for it. And do not pay for 4 years with the lives of soldiers, declaring the success of such a method of warfare.
                        You can't argue with the facts.

                        Yes, with what facts... solid emotions from you, the purpose of which is to prick me as hard as possible, thinking that it will work)
                      7. -2
                        16 August 2025 20: 49
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Well, Ukraine is obviously a weaker opponent compared to Russia.

                        Which can do nothing without its owners.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        You should ask yourself that)

                        That is, it pricks.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        And it wasn’t possible to cope with it in the shortest possible time)

                        An American general said about Kyiv in 3 days. Although, if they hadn't been coy in the first days, it could have been like that.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Well, you know the answer yourself, why are you acting like a fool?)))

                        That is, you can't argue with the facts. Tell the tales about how there was no help somewhere else. Well, as for readiness, judging by the fact that they started taking people after 60, who is more successful is a rhetorical question.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        And with what facts...
                        With these
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        They couldn't cope and ran away.
                      8. +2
                        16 August 2025 21: 29
                        Which can do nothing without its owners.

                        Well, how could it be... they successfully held us back by means of agreements and military actions, until the start of full-scale NATO assistance.
                        That is, it pricks.

                        Well, you know better, if it really hurts your eyes, I won’t try to convince you otherwise.)
                        An American general spoke about Kyiv in 3 days.

                        I didn't talk about Kyiv for 3 days and didn't mean it)
                        That is, you can't argue with the facts. Tell the tales about there being no help somewhere else.

                        That is, there is no point in blaming others if you yourself have a crooked face. There were no facts from you)
                        Well, as for readiness, judging by the fact that they started taking people after 60, who is more successful is a rhetorical question.

                        Well, considering the difference in the population of the countries...as well as in the issues of recruitment for a contract, the contingent of people in Russia and the methods by which they are recruited here. Plus, the emergency partial mobilization in Russia in 2022...some very dubious successes for our state
                        With these

                        These are emotions, not facts.
                      9. 0
                        16 August 2025 22: 45
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Well, how could it be...they successfully contained us with agreements and military actions


                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        That is, there is no point in blaming others if you yourself have a crooked face. There were no facts from you)

                        As I already wrote about the fact that they were not helped from the very beginning, tell somewhere else. The leaders of Europe themselves admitted that since 2014 they pumped it up for everyone for the war. True, Russia did not sleep either.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        if it really hurts your eyes

                        Self-critical.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        I didn't talk about Kyiv for 3 days and didn't mean it)
                        What about?
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Well, considering the difference in the population of the countries...and also in the issues of recruitment for contracts, the contingent of people in Russia and the methods by which they are recruited here.

                        That is, again, nothing but attempts to ignore the facts.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        These are emotions, not facts.


                        Quote: Dart2027
                        I suppose there should be a paean to the US army in Iraq... ? If so, sing it to the Taliban and Houthis, they'll laugh.
                      10. +1
                        16 August 2025 23: 00
                        As I already wrote about the fact that they were not helped from the very beginning, tell somewhere else. The leaders of Europe themselves admitted that since 2014 they pumped it up for everyone for the war. True, Russia did not sleep either.

                        As I have already repeated, no one supplied heavy weapons that really helped them...at that time.
                        If you have clear information on weapons supplies BEFORE 2022, please provide the information to the studio.
                        That is, again, nothing but attempts to ignore the facts.

                        No, you just mistakenly consider what you cite as some kind of successes and facts)
                        Self-critical

                        Yeah, you're self-deprecating as always, you can't take that away from you))
                      11. 0
                        17 August 2025 06: 44
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        heavy weapons that really helped them...nobody supplied them then.

                        because then they had their own, but information, communications, light weapons, money and other things were supplied much earlier. Well, and when ours started to knock them out, they started to supply it too.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        No, you just mistakenly believe that what you are citing,

                        A few days ago, the Ukrainian Armed Forces began accepting people over 60 years of age. It's a fact, though.
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Yeah, you're self-deprecating as always.

                        Self-critical.
                      12. +1
                        17 August 2025 02: 51
                        The leaders of Europe themselves admitted that since 2014 they have been pumping it full of everything for the war.


                        In 2014, European leaders pumped Ukraine with nothing but expired dry rations and worn-out pants.
                        But our leaders simply returned former Ukrainian Armed Forces weapons from Crimea to Ukraine.
                        https://ria.ru/20140527/1009593518.html

                        It’s true that Russia wasn’t sleeping either.


                        Is this a conclusion based on the results of spring 2022? It seems that Russia was not just sleeping there, but was in a real shutdown right from 2014.

                        I suppose there should be some praise for the US military here.


                        We are now as far from the US Army as we are from China, in every respect.
                      13. -1
                        17 August 2025 06: 47
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        In 2014, European leaders pumped Ukraine with nothing but expired dry rations and worn-out pants.

                        Will the source be?
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        Is this the conclusion based on the results of spring 2022?

                        For example, how many Iskanders were disposed of and in what year was the rearmament with new OTRKs completed? And how many "fortresses" are left there?
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        We are now as far from the US Army as we are from China,

                        regarding bragging and stealing.
                      14. +1
                        17 August 2025 13: 40
                        Will the source be?


                        From March to September 2014, the United States allocated $32 million to Ukraine for uniforms for military personnel, night vision devices, and communications equipment. In addition, 300 army rations, transport, and engineering equipment for border guards were provided.
                        https://tass.ru/info/5004685
                        There were further deliveries to maintain the pants, and the first weapons were already in 2018 and the Javelins.
                        You can even shit yourself by pumping it up.

                        For example, how many Iskanders were disposed of there?


                        Apparently not enough at all.

                        And how many "fortifications" are left there?


                        So far they haven't even managed to liberate the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, in three years. Apparently they have good fortifications there.
                      15. 0
                        17 August 2025 14: 55
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        https://tass.ru/info/5004685

                        Read
                        Thus, in 2015, the United States provided Ukraine with 230 Humvee armored vehicles (including 30 vehicles with increased armor protection), Raven drones equipped with video cameras. In addition, the Ukrainian side was given military counter-battery radar systems Q36, designed to detect and track artillery shots and missile launches.

                        Some strange pants. Read on.
                        In addition to gratuitous military aid from Washington under the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, Kyiv can obtain American weapons from private companies on a commercial basis. The relevant licenses are approved by the State Department (contract details are usually not made public).

                        And this is, so to speak, what is in the press.
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        Apparently not enough at all.


                        Quote: Tulus12
                        So far, it has not even been possible to liberate the territories of Donetsk and Luhansk regions

                        And that's why Zelensky is begging for weapons wherever he can and trying to recruit outright old men into the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
                      16. +2
                        17 August 2025 13: 43
                        regarding bragging and stealing
                        .

                        I remember what was written about Ukraine until 2022. How cleverly we will overcome with wooden machine guns.
                        And as for theft - in light of the well-known cases with Shoigu's deputies and other fortification builders, who would say that?
                      17. 0
                        17 August 2025 15: 01
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        I remember what was written about Ukraine until 2022.
                        The Ministry of Defense or who? An American general spoke about Kyiv in three days.
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        And regarding theft - in light of well-known cases


                        Julia Gledhill (Stimson Center) in the National Interest article “How the Defense Industry is Inflating Pentagon Prices” (01.08.2024/XNUMX/XNUMX) writes:

                        “In practice, defense contractors have been overcharging the Pentagon for years, at the expense of both taxpayers and the military.

                        And Congress does not yet have the tools to investigate and root out the full extent of the Defense Department's fleecing by defense contractors.

                        But several members of Congress are working to end the practice. Last year, Senators Warren (D-Mass.), Brown (R-Ind.), and Grassley (R-Iowa) teamed up with Reps. Garamendi (D-Calif.) and Delusio (D-Pa.) to introduce legislation that would close legal loopholes that allow the military to be overcharged.
                        Quote: Tulus12
                        Julia Gledhill (Stimson Center) in the National Interest article “How the Defense Industry is Inflating Pentagon Prices” (01.08.2024/XNUMX/XNUMX) writes:

                        “In practice, defense contractors have been overcharging the Pentagon for years, at the expense of both taxpayers and the military.

                        And Congress does not yet have the tools to investigate and root out the full extent of the Defense Department's fleecing by defense contractors.

                        But several members of Congress are working to end the practice. Last year, Senators Warren (D-Mass.), Brown (R-Ind.), and Grassley (R-Iowa) teamed up with Reps. Garamendi (D-Calif.) and Delusio (D-Pa.) to introduce legislation that would close legal loopholes that allow the military to be overcharged.
                        https://www.zavtra.ru/blogs/korruptciya_v_sfere_oboronnih_zakazov_raz_ela_pentagon_i_kongress_ssha

                        Well, in light of the difference in budgets, where is greater is a rhetorical question.
                    2. 0
                      16 August 2025 21: 57
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      because there was nothing else to do but run away with my tail between my legs.

                      So the Americans did not flee Afghanistan. There was a deal between Trump and the Taliban in early 2019, saying we inform you that in 2020 we are packing up our bags and leaving. To which the Taliban promised that not a single hair would fall from the head of an American soldier. And the Taliban protected the Americans from terrorist attacks by the same ISIS during their withdrawal. Or are you going to claim that the Taliban suddenly launched an offensive on all fronts and forced the Americans to flee? The generals of the Afghan army fled, as did everyone who was afraid of the Taliban.
                      1. +1
                        16 August 2025 22: 39
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        So the Americans didn't run away from Afghanistan. There was a deal between Trump and the Taliban in early 2019, saying we inform you that in 2020 we are packing up our belongings and leaving.

                        Yeah, we sat there for 20 years and dealt drugs, and then suddenly decided to leave.
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        The generals of the Afghan army fled, as did everyone who was afraid of the Taliban.

                        Moreover, everything looked exactly the same as after the US “left” Vietnam.
                      2. +1
                        16 August 2025 23: 17
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Yeah, we sat there for 20 years and dealt drugs, and then suddenly decided to leave.

                        Well, whether they were protecting or not, I'm not interested in rumors. The Taliban couldn't completely shut down the opium business, the drug lords have a lot of influence there, and the local population sometimes had no other way to earn a living, although they sold the raw material, opium, for pennies. They tried to introduce programs for alternative cultivation of something other than poppy. Trump came and suddenly decided to leave, which shocked the allies, and the Taliban themselves, who no longer had much hope for anything. In fact, they weren't protecting drugs for 20 years, but were trying to bring the country, crippled by wars and religious fanatics, back to normal, and they succeeded in doing a lot that collapsed within a few days, for example, women's rights to education. If the Americans had simply left without agreeing on anything with the Taliban and without guaranteeing them that they wouldn't be hit from the air, the Taliban wouldn't have thought of coming back.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Moreover, everything looked exactly the same as after the US “left” Vietnam.

                        It didn't even look like that. The Americans had to flee Vietnam because they lost the war, the Viet Cong were pushing and pushing. They simply decided to leave Afghanistan, and the Taliban even guarded this process so that not a single hair would fall from the Americans' heads.
                      3. -1
                        17 August 2025 06: 50
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        Well, whether they were protecting me or not, I'm not interested in rumors.
                        According to the Americans themselves, it has increased tenfold under their watch.
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        The Taliban couldn't completely shut down the opium business
                        Do they know? They closed it down in the second year.
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        In fact, for 20 years they weren't protecting drugs, but were trying to bring a country crippled by wars and religious fanatics back to normal, and they succeeded in a lot.
                        Yes, yes, yes, Americans are trying to help someone everywhere. Don't tell me fairy tales.
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        They simply decided to leave Afghanistan

                        That is, they fought with the Taliban for 20 years in order to give power to the Taliban. As Zadorno said?
                      4. 0
                        17 August 2025 22: 06
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        According to the Americans themselves, it has increased tenfold under their watch.

                        This is not because of the Americans, but rather a general trend in drug production and demand over the past 20 years.
                        The fight against drug production has always been the business of the Afghan government. But the problem is that there is no alternative for rural areas, since a kilogram of opium brings more profit than tons of beets.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Do they know? They closed it down in the second year.

                        They didn't cover anything. Firstly, drug lords are quite influential people in Afghanistan, with connections all the way to the Pakistani security forces and the Taliban. And secondly, why would the Taliban make enemies for themselves, especially since they can't offer any alternative, and secondly, they are just as corrupt and they also need money, that's why they protect. But they tell the camera how haram it is.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Yes, yes, yes, Americans are trying to help someone everywhere. Don't tell me fairy tales.

                        The Americans didn't care at all, their task was to catch the top of Al Qaeda. The Germans, the British and other ISAF participants insisted on all sorts of reforms and help for Afghanistan to become a secular state. And there are many positive examples. In addition to a lot of programs on education, organization of state structures, municipal services, development of sports, for example, an interesting example of one provincial town in the province bordering Pakistan, where the Taliban were constantly raiding. There is documentation from the British, a battalion whose task was to drive the Taliban out of the city, to establish relations and trust with the locals. And at the beginning they show the streets of the city, the market, in short, fear, paranoia, not a single woman on the street, and in general almost no one, poverty and hunger. After a year of patrolling and squeezing out the Taliban, the city came to life, stalls opened, trade, many people returned. Under the Taliban there were only prohibitions, this is haram, that is haram, from clothes, video and audio cassettes, to musical instruments. Of course, the majority considered the Western coalition to be occupiers and wanted to live without them as quickly as possible, but they were even more afraid of the Taliban, well, because it was complete darkness, poverty, hunger, senseless violence and sadism.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, they fought with the Taliban for 20 years in order to give power to the Taliban. As Zadorno said?

                        It is precisely this decision of Trump that no one understood at all. It was possible to simply withdraw the troops and simply guarantee the Afghan army air support and the Taliban would never have come. But now Afghanistan is again turning into a hotbed of Islamism. The most dangerous ISIS cell is now from Central Asia and Afghanistan.
                      5. -1
                        17 August 2025 22: 50
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        This is not because of the Americans, but rather a general trend in drug production and demand over the past 20 years.

                        And before this there was no demand. Can you come up with something more convincing?
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        They didn't cover anything up. Firstly, drug lords are quite influential people in Afghanistan, with connections all the way up to

                        https://news.un.org/ru/story/2023/11/1446487
                        Following a drug ban imposed by the Taliban in 2023, opium cultivation in Afghanistan has dropped by 95 percent. This is evidenced by the results of a study conducted by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC).

                        Will there be more lies?
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        The Americans didn't really care; their task was to catch the top brass of Al Qaeda.

                        Well, how did you spend 20 years looking for it? Aren't you tired of lying?
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        It is precisely this decision of Trump that no one understood at all. They could have simply withdrawn the troops and simply given a guarantee to the Afghan army for air support
                        and become a laughing stock when the Taliban actually show up.
                        Quote: karabas-barabas
                        The most dangerous ISIS cell right now comes from Central Asia and Afghanistan.

                        Really? And who created ISIS, please remind me?
      3. + 10
        15 August 2025 09: 53
        Our instructors are not at all what you thought. And they often teach what they saw on YouTube.


        What's wrong with that? What's wrong with studying someone else's experience via YouTube? No matter what kind of specialist the instructor is, something new always appears in the enemy's tactics and it's impossible to track it quickly without social networks now.

        Don't like YouTube? Have you read the manuals that the Ministry of Defense sends out to prepare soldiers for war? There's nothing useful there at all. Just informational information.

        Ideally, of course, the instructor should shoot like a sportsman and fight in assaults for a year or more and only then tell others how to do it (if he survives). And even then, after six months, his experience will already be outdated in relation to current tactics.

        But where will you find such people? And who will give them to you from the unit to the training ground? And will they themselves want to change their usual team for the work of an instructor?

        Even in assault regiments there are fewer good shooters than there are fingers on one hand per regiment, and there are even fewer who can teach others.

        It's enough to shout and call all the specialists different names, but you can't find those who can teach and explain even with fire.

        People after military service cannot correctly set the "P" sight on a machine gun. And this is after several years of service under the leadership of people whom majors and colonels themselves taught for 5 years in military institutes to teach soldiers to fight.
        And now they want an instructor to make a civilian attack aircraft in 2 weeks. And for the salary of an ordinary private or sergeant.

        The entire institute of instructors in the SVO is based on enthusiasts; there is no system for selecting and training instructors and securing them in the army.

        I demonstrated effective shooting from an AK, said that I can teach others to shoot, but now everything has been put on me: shooting, storming the stronghold, and housekeeping. I do what I can, I prepare everyone from the shooter to the grenade launcher. I prepared three groups of grenade launchers, all were able to hit targets at a distance of 230 meters, and with a PG-7VR with a PGO sight (first models).

        And yes, I use both YouTube and Telegram to evaluate tactics.

        Someone can do it better, please, I'll give up my seat to you.
        1. +4
          15 August 2025 12: 38
          I can sign under every word. YES, the general military does not change. And then, as always - "nuances". In particular, no attention is paid to the hour of sapper training again. Many losses from traps, etc. - that's why many do not even know the base. And losses out of nowhere. I always contacted the first line when they were clearing. When there are no flags on banal traps. And there are places where it is clearly visible - that the charge has worked. Now even this has been left to chance again. In Chechnya, after the end of active combat after Komsomolskoye - there was a sapper war. They sent us for training. It is banal to know the main types of traps. The task was not to disarm. But to detect and mark.
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          I trained three groups of grenade launchers, all of whom were able to hit targets at a distance of 230 meters, using the PG-7VR with a PGO sight (first models).

          good Verka is a capricious thing in terms of ballistics. Like Karandash. Usually only Luch can be there where they let you shoot a couple of times and that's it. Many don't even know why the shot itself is inserted "on the nut".
          P.S. Please do not quibble over the terms. In a small monastery, many things are called names and even worse.
        2. +3
          15 August 2025 12: 46
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          People after military service cannot correctly set the "P" sight on the machine gun

          Just a full-length target now is just.... You need to know the elevations and it is better to set more than 4. And aim at the target. The front sight does not interfere. Although this complicates shooting from side positions. You need shooting and practice. And alas, we still lack this and you will not learn such balancing act in 2 weeks.
        3. +1
          15 August 2025 19: 12
          I've heard it before that I should shoot like a cowboy and run like his horse.
    2. -1
      24 August 2025 23: 48
      The Czechs began using threes back in the first Chechen war, consisting of: a sniper, a machine gunner, and a grenade launcher.
      But our generals from the General Staff of the Crown are not allowed to study and apply the experience of others; if they were given free rein, they would still be leading regiments into attack in formation with a brass band...
  2. +6
    15 August 2025 06: 03
    Sometimes fighters break away from the attackers and end up behind enemy lines...on LBS it's like puff pastry.
    And then interesting things happen, like a hand-to-hand fight between a Yakut and a Vsushnik.
    The main thing here is to be able to survive when completely surrounded by the enemy...such fighters are worth their weight in gold.
    1. + 10
      15 August 2025 06: 12
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Sometimes fighters break away from the attackers and end up behind enemy lines...on LBS it's like puff pastry.

      in 99% of cases, as then - communications. This does not apply to sabotage and reconnaissance groups. And with communications, the cart is still there. Alas. The objective now does not always solve everything promptly, including. There is too much information.
      P.S. Many remember trophy matarolas instead of bulky ones... an untranslatable play on words (c).
      1. + 12
        15 August 2025 06: 38
        And as for communications, there is still nothing. Alas.

        And now you get a plus. Although communications are not 99%, a significant percentage are stupid commanders and the lack of a troop ACS. Although at every exhibition we demonstrate battle management systems, I do not see them in the troops. Communication is a sore spot in general. The second (I think the third) army in the world, and the soldiers have cheap Chinese radios, and even civilian ones ... At their own expense ... You are wrong about the Chechen. Yes, many Chechens pretend to be heroes in the rear, because the guard grew up. But they are also in army units. In my assault platoon, there is a Chechen named Salam. He ended up with us on the other side of the Dnieper, when we were retreating. And somehow we became friends very easily. I personally am confident in him - he will cover. And we do not have many like him.
        1. + 14
          15 August 2025 06: 52
          Quote: URAL72
          a significant percentage are stupid commanders

          I wrote that I once adjusted the main working organ of a senior officer. No. Not two at a time. winked I just kept quiet about this topic in a cultural way. I myself have been surrounded because of...
          Quote: URAL72
          I personally have confidence in him - he will cover. And we don't have many of those.

          I am a Nokhcho by Da (Chechen on my father's side). For which a certain Ross42 and others simply trampled me into the mud and insulted me. And if I wanted to respond, they threatened me with the admins. And it is in the rules. You cannot discuss the actions of the administration. Oh well. Even though they are not the administration, you cannot discuss their actions either. There are Russians who are more even-tempered than others. By the way, they call me Russian back in my homeland. And that I killed Chechens in 2000 (one of Akhmat's field soldiers recently told me this to my face in the spring). And the Vovtsy and Vakhkhs have no Faith. They are radicals - they fought for money. And who pays for the banquet - it is clear. And alas. Now, yes. We bought them now and at least they fight for us. I am not saying that all of them. But there are some. In my family, no one fought against Russia. And I passed the checks and, moreover, I have clearances for the Ministry of Defense.
          P.S. You also get a plus. And I don't give minuses. I don't see the point. I usually just answer.
          1. +9
            15 August 2025 08: 03
            Alexey, it is a sin to be offended by sick people (this is about people like ross42). As the great Omar Khayyam said: "The lower a person's soul, the higher he turns up his nose. He reaches with his nose to where his soul has not grown."
            1. +7
              15 August 2025 08: 20
              I already told them the quote. Maybe few people know it.
              "When you get hit. You are no longer aware of what is happening and act on reflexes. And only then do you understand what happened." (c) Andy Hug
        2. 2al
          +5
          15 August 2025 09: 33
          As Starlink has shown, modern communications require smart and responsible innovative leaders and strong state Will, not just money. Unfortunately, now, either use Starlink or, for example, in the assault compartment, the chest of drawers must carry a FOCL reel like a UAV, or, upon request, deliver a UAV with a FOCL to him during combat, since it is necessary to combine the required qualities and reliability of communications for control and target designation, then it is necessary to send video and data from sights and reconnaissance-target designation equipment via communication channels. In the current situation, only FOCL communications will ensure combat stability and stealth. Only such communications will ensure the effective use of combat robots.
    2. + 17
      15 August 2025 07: 41
      The hand-to-hand fight between the Yakut and the Ukrainian Armed Forces soldier occurred when the Yakut and his partner were sent on a motorcycle to a one-way flag-raising. How could the flag be installed if the enemy was in the village? And the subsequent attitude towards him is also indicative, instead of evacuating, let's find out where the headquarters are, where the warehouses are and all that.
      Fighters must carry out combat missions, not survive on their own, hoping for a miracle.
      1. +8
        15 August 2025 08: 35
        Quote: Dmitry_Likhoded
        Fighters must carry out combat missions, not survive on their own, hoping for a miracle.

        Sometimes there are such tasks. Or intelligence has screwed up, etc. There are different cases (c) And I had to survive relying only on myself and my boys.
        Quote: Dmitry_Likhoded
        Instead of evacuating, let's find out where the headquarters are, where the warehouses are and everything like that.

        when it is sometimes clear that everything is over. "Dead" does not mean useless. (c). Believe me. I was in such a situation myself. When you understand that everything is over. Well, there is no way out. Not only is there no way out stupidly. There is not even a smart way out. And you do what you have to. It is hard to describe in words and for someone to understand.
        Eternal memory to such guys. soldier Who did not give up and accepted their fate. Inshaalah1 soldier
        And sometimes Allah is generous (Deeds k1inkhetame vu).
        1. +4
          15 August 2025 08: 39
          I know that all sorts of things happen, but in most cases it is the fault of commanders who do not want to and cannot organize supplies, evacuation, etc.
          1. +1
            15 August 2025 09: 13
            Quote: Dmitry_Likhoded
            who do not want and cannot organize supplies, evacuation, etc.

            The army is a huge mechanism. And engineering and supply play the same role as the stormtroopers. Many people write here. It is clear where. Oh, "we" (well, to be cultural) did not take anything into the encirclement and do not distinguish what is tactical and operational encirclement.
  3. +7
    15 August 2025 06: 13
    To be honest, I didn't understand the point of the article, this is basically already known, and the use of such tactics is probably not for the best of reasons. In fact, throwing people forward in small groups with the hope that they will somehow slip through, somehow gain a foothold. And here the factors of communication and reconnaissance are very important, which is basically what the author writes about, but I don't know how it is now, but at the beginning we had a problem with both communication and reconnaissance. If you send a group with some "Baofengs" the whole effect of surprise will disappear, and with closed communication I hope the problems have already been solved. Reconnaissance is also a sore spot, now I hope there are a lot of reconnaissance drones, because at the beginning of the operation they practically did not participate...
    1. +7
      15 August 2025 07: 28
      The point of the article is to convince everyone that such tactics are not due to poverty, but to genius, and since they are used, they provide everything that is possible and impossible... however, the author does not ask the question of why they act in pairs and threes, why not 5-10 people or more? If drones interfere, then they will interfere with 2 or 102 fighters...
      1. +5
        15 August 2025 07: 49
        Multiple increase in the workload of operators. They are forced to accompany several groups. Or do you think drones fly there at the speed of light? Opta generally cannot "squirm" around different positions. They give directions and that's it. The fact is that the survival rate is higher. 10 snipers? They never go in herds - three at most. Observer/spotter + company/infantry + sniper or counter-sniper. And the practice is almost more than 100 years old. The maximum task is to remain unnoticed. In the reality of the fact that there is already a continuous front, especially - the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already falling apart.
        1. +8
          15 August 2025 08: 33
          Quote: Alexey_12
          And the practice is almost more than 100 years old.
          Alexey, what I want to say here is in this practice. The tactics of small assault groups were invented by the Germans in the First World War, there was a positional dead end. If we talk about the Great Patriotic War, the tactics of assault groups were used in street battles, but there were not 2-3 people, but assault troops were also given sappers with flamethrowers, guns and mortars. By the way, drones will be less effective in street battles, if at all operators in maneuver warfare remain relevant, when instead of settled and sighted areas there will be a rapidly changing situation. What now, isn't there a positional dead end, where ridiculous self-restraint gave rise to this tactic, essentially at the level of "guys in slippers" who were whipping up mopeds and pickups in the same Syria? Where is our air supremacy, where is our Black Sea Fleet, where is the interaction of the branches of the armed forces, which ensures victory?
          What are generals and the General Staff for if small assault groups are in charge? and in three years of the SVO there was not a single military operation at the level of a combined arms army.
          Instead of including UAV companies in the organizational structure of all regiments and brigades, the Lompassniks are creating unmanned troops with an unclear structure and even more unclear interaction with units located on the LBS...
          We are repeating the mistakes of 22, when in order to receive artillery support it was necessary to obtain approval from almost the army commander, and after a few hours or days the artillery was plowing up empty “squares”, mercilessly wasting ammunition.
          What has changed for the better here?
          1. +4
            15 August 2025 08: 47
            Quote: Per se.
            What has changed for the better here?

            A little from the bottom up. They decided back in Chechnya. Our intelligence could directly request our D-30 that was standing there from the BPE. The radio operator immediately sent a crew, all in their underwear from their bunks. While the crew checks, boxes, shell... MD to set, cartridge case... lock. The gunner entered... They covered their ears. Shot. The cartridge case flies off the lock. The lock drags it into the pile with that club. Then the cartridges were packed back into the boxes and the "bottles" were changed back. And again. There was support in violating orders too. But they turned a blind eye to it. The guys are there and they need fire. I myself once fought my way to the rooks. There was a couple in the air. They worked perfectly. Special thanks to the pilots! soldier

            But as for the top one - alas and ah.
            Quote: Per se.
            By the way, drones will be less effective in street battles

            Yes, that's a fact... but in the times of just drops. When there was no dominance of FPV. I myself survived 2 drops and 1 FPV. The only thing that saved me was that I was in full gear (collar, belt, balpacks where you could shove them). It's better to be with a shield than on a shield (c)
      2. +2
        15 August 2025 07: 58
        Back in 2000, we were taught in the infantry to move in threes... and regarding drones, it's better to have 2 hit than 10-15. hi
      3. -2
        15 August 2025 21: 41
        Quote: parma
        If drones are a hindrance, then they will be a hindrance to 2 or 102 fighters.

        Do you think 2 and 102 are the same in terms of visibility? Hmm...
        1. -1
          16 August 2025 08: 33
          No, just grind down 2 people, easier than 102, and then start over again.
          But we are talking about a war of maneuver... and in this, alas, we have not succeeded.
          1. -1
            16 August 2025 08: 49
            Quote: Sanguinius
            No, just grinding 2 people is easier than 102

            Yeah, especially with modern weapons.
            Quote: Sanguinius
            But we are talking about a war of maneuver...

            Let's get straight to the constructions of the times of Suvorov and Napoleon.
            1. 0
              16 August 2025 08: 51
              Let's get straight to the constructions of the times of Suvorov and Napoleon.


              I never thought that you perceive maneuver warfare as something ancient)
              1. -1
                16 August 2025 08: 52
                Quote: Sanguinius
                that you perceive maneuver warfare as something ancient

                Are you saying that you didn't maneuver then?
    2. +4
      15 August 2025 07: 46
      The communication problems are still there. The baofengs, kirisans and tutkis are still bought at their own expense or by volunteers. And no one will give each of the stormtroopers who are filtering in one by one or in pairs a radio. They just show the route and alga on their smartphone.
  4. +2
    15 August 2025 06: 18
    For me it is very important to support the assault groups with fire so that they do not get surrounded and, most importantly, captured. It is clear that you want to win for the commander, hang the flag over the forester's hut, but the main thing is to prevent the fighters from getting captured. The slightest suspicion of encirclement and maneuver to retreat to your positions. It means that the attack, the offensive is not really planned. Or the enemy has prepared the defense well.
  5. +7
    15 August 2025 06: 27
    Behind every two or three there should be a tank or a cannon.
    The two and three should have a direct connection with artillery, surveillance equipment, location detection, all these laser rangefinders and angle meters. Ideally, built into the machine gun sights. If you don't know how to do this, ask, I'll tell you.
    Artillery should not operate on orders from headquarters, but on the instructions of these twos and threes.
    1. -1
      15 August 2025 06: 34
      In open space, a swarm of drones immediately attacks the tank and it may not always be next to the group, more often it covers from a dug-in position
      1. +1
        15 August 2025 06: 50
        We were talking about shooting from closed positions, one.
        If you can't gain air supremacy but want to attack, then you have no choice but to exchange each enemy drone for one of your units, two. That is, as I wrote in 2021, you need to have a lot of unmanned units that the enemy cannot refuse to destroy. Or pay in blood, since you chose to save and increase Nabiullina's billions instead of producing robots.
        .
        In such a situation, only the pace of the offensive can reduce losses: the faster - the fewer losses. But... do we have enough units to withstand such a pace of losses?
        .
        Making the necessary amount of weapons and solving the drone problem is not easy, it's very easy. But in order to secure funding, Nabiullina (and Siluanov too) must be imprisoned.
        To prevent the money from being stolen, shoot the corrupt officials from the Ministry of Defense. One tenth of their current number would be enough for real governance.
        To prevent industrialists and bankers from taking their money abroad, prohibit all non-commodity transfers abroad.
        1. +4
          15 August 2025 07: 03
          Quote: also a doctor
          do we have that many units

          Personally, in my squad, then platoon - there were no "units". I didn't play strategy games. You watch when the bullets are cast.
          Quote: also a doctor
          Making the right amount of weapons and solving the drone problem is not easy, it's very easy

          Borku to the Tsardom! (c) Ivan Vasilyevich Changes Profession. The Plan is as Reliable as a Swiss Watch (c)
          1. -3
            15 August 2025 07: 08
            Wars are not won by demagogy. Instead of unit, suggest another word that could be used to describe a soldier, a tank, a gun, an observation post, an ammunition vehicle...
            These same champions of the purity and sanctity of the idea in 1941 lost millions because of their inability to manage troops and cowardice to admit reality. And how they knew how to shut the mouths of their competitors on the career ladder at party meetings... You probably didn't see or read about this.
            If you haven't played strategy games, it's a pity. You would know that skillful management reduces losses by tens and hundreds of times. Play Roma Total War...
            1. +3
              15 August 2025 07: 17
              Quote: also a doctor
              Wars are not won by demagogy

              I wrote it in my first post on the forum. "Generals always prepare for the old war." Look at what it was like 3 years ago and what it is now. Take the second Chechnya. And I served there from start to finish. True, there was still a "2 months" rule. Now the guys are there much longer, because there are no conscripts.
              Quote: also a doctor
              These same champions of the purity and sanctity of the idea in 1941 lost millions because of their inability to manage troops and their cowardice in acknowledging reality.

              But they nevertheless fought even in such conditions. And often not for their lives. My grandfather was in the Siberian ones, who were thrown straight from the trains near Moscow. He survived. And the offensive was stopped.
              P.S. Discussing 41 is a pointless exercise. Everyone has their own opinion. Like Grozny in 94. Gostomel from the modern era.
              1. -7
                15 August 2025 07: 23
                I will answer you again. Wars are not won by demagogy. What can you offer specifically? For now I see in you a commissar from 1941, calling for the heroic shedding of soldiers' blood.
                1. +9
                  15 August 2025 07: 31
                  Alas, I am a platoon level. There were prospects for senior officer ranks. I was even a captain. But in one situation I lost my temper and hit my superior officer for the boys.
                  I didn't move the chips. I was a chip. So I have nothing to offer. I have an order. And I carry it out. And my job, even with those orders, is sometimes to get everyone home.
                  Quote: also a doctor
                  For now, I see in you a commissar from 1941, calling for the heroic shedding of soldiers’ blood.

                  You are mistaken. I also leaked mine. Including almost leaked - because I couldn't install the turneket myself.
                  1. -4
                    15 August 2025 08: 37
                    There is no need to play the fool and imitate an unknown officer. Even at the squad level, and especially at the platoon level, there are real people in command who do not consider themselves to be chips. And there are no fewer tactical techniques at this level than a colonel at the OP.
                    Again, demagoguery from you...
                    1. +2
                      15 August 2025 09: 00
                      Quote: also a doctor
                      Again, demagoguery from you...

                      Quote: also a doctor
                      No need to play the fool and imitate an unknown officer


                      This vaguely reminds me. Hmmmm. And your demagogy. The insults have begun. Are you from the Rosa 42 team? Or his alter ego?
                      Quote: also a doctor
                      they don't consider themselves to be chips at all

                      Did you take the oath? It is written there in plain English - how the orders are carried out.
                      Well then give examples yourself. Share your personal experience. Fights. And not like me - demagogy. What's the question? Not only everyone can engage in demagogy (c)
    2. -2
      15 August 2025 06: 37
      Behind every two or three there should be a tank or a cannon.
      The two and three should have a direct connection with artillery, surveillance equipment, location detection, all these laser rangefinders and angle meters. Ideally, built into the machine gun sights. If you don't know how to do this, ask, I'll tell you.
      Artillery should not operate on orders from headquarters, but on the instructions of these twos and threes.
      .
      Sending soldiers into battle without communication, without visual contact with the supporting machine gun behind, without corrected artillery support means uselessly driving soldiers to the slaughter. Or having at least equal losses with the enemy.
      .
      At the beginning of the SVO I wrote that either we will invest billions of Nabiullina in weapons, or we will pay for the Victory with great bloodshed. Recently there was a report on doubling financial reserves...
      Repeated because editing time expired...
      1. 0
        16 August 2025 05: 53
        Who were you commanding, doctor? Where did you participate?
    3. +3
      15 August 2025 07: 12
      Quote: also a doctor
      Artillery should not operate on orders from headquarters, but on the instructions of these twos and threes.

      Yes, the "cascade" control system is the scourge of the Russian Armed Forces. But for horizontal communication, the assault group commander - the gun commander both must have a very high level of training. The first - skills in artillery reconnaissance and adjustment, the second - skills in calculating data for firing. Which in practice, in most cases, is not observed.
      1. -3
        15 August 2025 07: 19
        The level of training is sufficient now. Plus, it is developed in battles. There are not enough means of observation and communication: all these compasses and rangefinders.
        Secondly, today the level of training can be compensated by electronics. For example, at the beginning of the SVO, someone in Rostov made a program for artillery calculations for a smartphone. It is possible to make a much better and more convenient program so that you can photograph a target and the artillerymen get both the azimuth and the elevation angle without any calculations. Give money, an order and permits - they will do everything for you...
        1. +2
          15 August 2025 07: 51
          I can't stop laughing. Two or three weeks of training for people who didn't serve their term or served 30 years ago, without a single training program, without professional instructors and a material base, you call it sufficient training?
          1. -3
            15 August 2025 08: 28
            Explain how your post relates to previous discussions.
            Secondly, even a high school student can be taught to use modern weapons, including artillery, in three days. Two months are needed to instill discipline and improve physical fitness.
            And let's take the most difficult type of troops - artillery. What kind of materiel base do you need to learn how to use artillery firing tables, sights, angle meters and range finders. Train on the available equipment, on what exactly to go into battle with and don't overthink it.
            1. 0
              15 August 2025 08: 36
              I see that you are an exclusively armchair "expert", divorced from reality. You have absolutely no idea what kind of contingent is currently going into the army and how the training is going.
              Besides artillery, are there no other branches of the military?
              1. 0
                15 August 2025 08: 56
                Why I don't know, I know. The main task in many units is to not get a feather in the side from a fellow soldier.
                But that doesn't mean they're unteachable idiots. If they couldn't teach you, that means they didn't want to teach you. And you need to start by creating healthy competition: if you haven't mastered the artillery program, you go into the stormtroopers.
                At each lesson there should be a selection and reshuffling: gunner-spotter-loader-motorized rifleman-assault aircraft, etc. Well, and the pinnacle of aspirations is to remain in the training center as a sergeant.
                There should also be a constant selection among instructors - every tenth person every month (select the worst) to the front. Then they will teach, and not exploit them in chores.
                .
                If a recruit shot his fellow soldiers, then it is the commanders' fault and the training system's defect. The Ukies were able to force Russians to fight against Russians. And ours should learn from the successful ones.
                1. +3
                  15 August 2025 11: 25
                  Once again I am convinced that you are far from the topic of discussion. You have absolutely no idea how the process of training newcomers goes.
                  To begin with, almost all new contract soldiers entering the troops now automatically go into assaults. The specialist positions in the units are filled by experienced fighters.
                  What training centers? Are you from the moon?
                  What sending the worst to the front? Newcomers can end up at the front literally in a few days anyway. There is data from obituaries, when only a week passes from the moment of signing the contract to death.
        2. +2
          16 August 2025 08: 45
          The level of preparation is sufficient even now.

          Where is it enough? Commanders at the level of squad leader - gun commander mostly do not know the difference between azimuth and directional angle, and this is even in the Marine Corps and Airborne Forces units! They cannot choose a normal aiming point! Corrections from assaults give corrections in the style of "half a bast shoe to the right - a little closer here", and this is not a joke! They do not like to learn and do not want to!
          Plus, it is developed in battles.

          And this is already beyond good and evil! Although I myself have already practiced at a firing position, and then also taught my subordinates.
          1. 0
            17 August 2025 18: 24
            I will quote you: "Where is it enough? Commanders at the level of squad leader - gun commander mostly do not know the difference between azimuth and directional angle, and this is even in the Marine Corps and Airborne Forces units! They cannot choose a normal aiming point! Corrections from assaults give corrections in the style of "half a bast shoe to the right - a little closer here", and this is not a joke! They do not like to learn and do not want to!"
            .
            Sorry, but you can teach any C student everything you've written in three days. If they don't teach, can't teach, don't want to teach, then demote such teachers and send them to the front.
            Regarding "they don't want to study" - I described to you one of the options for a motivation system with daily culling of those who fail to cope into the same stormtroopers.
            The same approach should be taken with incompetent commanders on the front lines. They are all heroes, but let the illiterate heroes be heroes with their own lives, not someone else's.
            .
            Regarding the spotters from the assaults. Do they have any artillery reconnaissance devices, so why demand more from them? First provide them, and then ask.
            .
            And, I repeat. The defect of preparation is compensated by electronics. But have you given at least one order for programming?
        3. 0
          16 August 2025 08: 56
          There is a lack of observation and communication equipment: all these compasses and rangefinders.

          All this is good, but in modern combat 90% of adjustments are made based on observations from drones. There are not enough drones and properly trained operators.
          Secondly, today the level of training can be compensated by electronics. For example, at the beginning of the SVO, someone in Rostov made a program for artillery calculations for a smartphone. It is possible to make a much better and more convenient program so that you can photograph a target and the artillerymen get both the azimuth and the elevation angle without any calculations. Give money, an order and permits - they will do everything for you...

          Regarding electronics - the operator should not be just a user (loser). When pressing the tablet screen, he should at least understand where the numbers come from.
          For example, at the beginning of the SVO, someone in Rostov made a program for artillery calculations for a smartphone. It is possible to make a much better and more convenient program so that you can photograph a target and the artillerymen will receive both the azimuth and the elevation angle without any calculations.

          There are enough artillery and cartographic programs for every taste, but the authorities, especially in regular units, are actively fighting both programs and smartphones.
          Give me money, an order and permits - they will do everything for you...

          Everything has been done long ago, and it's not even about money. All good initiatives in the army are stifled from above by the stupidity and bureaucracy of the command, and from below - by the laziness and indifference of the personnel.
          1. 0
            17 August 2025 18: 12
            As usual, the opponent didn't understand anything. The drone operator and spotter on the battlefield shouldn't know or see any numbers at all.
            I'll repeat myself again. If you lack intelligence, ask me. A pensioner will help for a small fee.
            1. 0
              17 August 2025 19: 49
              "Every soldier must know his maneuver" A. V. Suvorov
              1. 0
                18 August 2025 20: 04
                Actually, I understand this maxim as "Every soldier should know ONLY his maneuver"
  6. +2
    15 August 2025 06: 40
    There is no continuous front line. A chain of platoon strongpoints, the intervals between which are controlled by UAVs and FPV. That is why the tactic of "infiltration" between the strongpoints in groups of 2-3 is adopted. Behind the assault groups there are "fortification" groups, separate medical evacuation and supply groups. But such tactics require excellent individual training and a high level of coordination and communication. I think that not every "linear" motorized rifle unit is capable of such tactics.
    1. +1
      15 August 2025 08: 00
      Now they are not even military bases, but burrows for one or two people.
      The stronghold tries to enter only when the assault has been successful, and even then it is not always possible to get through. Evacuation and supply are practically non-existent due to drones. Usually the infantry sits with what they took with them. Such tactics are available to any unit and are widely used. It simply leads to excessive losses.
      1. 0
        19 August 2025 07: 42
        Sorry, could you please explain the point of such a strategy, but I can't see the point in a competition to dig holes as close to the enemy capital as possible?
        1. 0
          19 August 2025 18: 24
          Go to the contract, they will explain everything to you in detail and you will see for yourself.
  7. -3
    15 August 2025 07: 37
    The author writes absolute nonsense, which has little to do with reality, simply plucking information from the news. Too lazy to talk to real stormtroopers?
  8. +1
    15 August 2025 07: 49
    I don’t understand, has the Russian Armed Forces already cancelled fire suppression of the enemy?
    1. -1
      15 August 2025 08: 15
      There are options here
      - The lack of coordination between the branches of the armed forces or the time period does not allow us to solve current problems jointly...
      - There is no possibility of pinpoint suppression, and area shooting does not give results. When working, they are knocked out by enemy drones or artillery in counter-battery combat faster than there will be "fire suppression of the enemy"
      - The scatter of rockets can cover their positions.
      - (probably this is the very first point, and the rest of the previous consequences...)
      Absolutely NI reasonable big bosses, covering their fat buttocks and afraid to take the slightest responsibility and conduct a JOINT operation. (Previously, pilots had difficulty integrating with ground operations, and now communication with them has become only through space..., and communication - there is a problem with communication. Although Popov invented radio, the generals generalized his good undertakings.)
  9. +2
    15 August 2025 09: 52
    The assault tactics of twos and threes are justified when storming individual objects, but when elevated to the level of strategy, it is vicious - it is like boxing with fingers instead of fists, you will not win a war that way.
  10. -1
    15 August 2025 10: 39
    This is not an innovative tactic, dear author. Simply put, due to the lack of heavy equipment and sufficient manpower, mass "meat" attacks have been reduced to attacks of three people. This tactic is good for capturing individual villages on a tactical scale. On a strategic scale, the front has effectively frozen, and taking a larger city would require another six months of effort. At this rate, this "war" could last another ten years.
    1. 0
      15 August 2025 11: 20
      The role of the General Staff of the Armed Forces has been reduced to zero. Company and battalion commanders, at most brigades, are in charge.
    2. +1
      15 August 2025 13: 01
      it will continue like this, there will only be temporary respites
  11. 0
    15 August 2025 14: 23
    The main problem is the lack of the required amount of armored vehicles, let's remember the "Federal Targeted Program Utilization" under which up to 10 thousand tanks were to be destroyed. The second problem (and maybe the first) is that there are no commanders of the required level to organize a large-scale offensive operation with deep breakthroughs. Everyone is afraid of a repeat of the "Ugledar throw" and "Belogorovka".
    What we are seeing now is essentially reconnaissance in force on a wide front, when the fighters, by advancing, force the enemy to open fire and thereby reveal their positions for artillery and FAB strikes.
  12. -1
    15 August 2025 15: 07
    Let me dilute the melancholy and sadness a little...
    Here's a man from the front lines who hasn't lost his sense of humor: he's cosplaying little by little "Now I'm Cheburashka."
    Good luck and success to all of us!
  13. 0
    15 August 2025 15: 09
    Two or three howitzer batteries and a MLRS battery for a squinting platoon? A whole division? For a platoon? God willing, they are at least approaching this standard. We see something completely different in the video, well, let's watch for now.
  14. 0
    15 August 2025 15: 17
    Quote: also a doctor
    There is no need to play the fool and imitate an unknown officer. Even at the squad level, and especially at the platoon level, there are real people in command who do not consider themselves to be chips. And there are no fewer tactical techniques at this level than a colonel at the OP.
    Again, demagoguery from you...


    You are the one carrying demagogy here. It seems that you are transferring all your labels to your opponent. That is what you are - a demagogue. And your hysterical cries are more like commissar's slogans: put everyone in power in jail, shoot everyone. A typical political instructor/commissar. In other words, an ordinary loudmouth. What were you saying there about an elementary solution to the problem of enemy drones? Come on, tell the world. Otherwise, you shouted out a slogan and disappeared from the topic. Come on, tell us about the solutions. This will save many lives of our guys.
    And tell us, what combat experience do you have? Not in a computer strategy, but in real life? Because your opponent knows about infantry warfare first-hand. And did you participate? And in what ranks/positions?
  15. +1
    15 August 2025 15: 17
    What's new? Our military needs to read the Manual for assault groups and detachments, developed for the battles in Stalingrad under the leadership of Chuikov. And also the instructions for assault detachments during the capture of Konigsberg - very instructive reading. Translating it into modern realities would be the best. And there's no need to reinvent the wheel, and how many lives could have been saved? But who will read this?
  16. -1
    15 August 2025 17: 05
    This is crazy, of course, I was perplexed myself when a friend told me how his brother died. They sent two to capture the strongpoint (I immediately had a question: if one is wounded, will the second one be able to quickly carry him out, provide assistance? How much ammunition will they be able to carry on themselves and how will this hinder their movements and maneuverability?) After they captured the strongpoint, they held it for a week (why didn’t they reinforce them?) After the brother’s partner was killed (he’s a sniper, went hunting, got tired of sitting in a trench), his partner was wounded and another one sat in the strongpoint for almost a month and a half, food and medicine were dropped from drones, what can one wounded soldier do? Two, three when there is no reinforcement. But everything looks beautiful on the map, the territory is captured and held.
  17. +1
    15 August 2025 17: 14
    There are no new approaches here, only the methods, methods, order of tactical actions and methods of training units are changing. Combat threes and twos began to be used in Afghanistan, then all this smoothly moved into combat operations in the North Caucasus. The Americans and others with them did not use such tactical actions, neither in Afghanistan, nor in Iraq, they formed combat groups as part of reinforced regular tactical units. But there was a different war there... the Americans and their allies had complete superiority, both in the air and on the ground in weapons, equipment and the most modern means of conducting armed struggle.
  18. 0
    16 August 2025 23: 29
    Thanks for the interesting review!
    Since this appeared in open AI (information sources), it means that other methods are currently being used. I don't know which ones, but effective ones are not currently being written about in open sources.
  19. 0
    19 August 2025 07: 21
    A threesome is a very unstable structure in terms of attention/psychology/physiology resources, as well as in terms of maneuvering and control. It is much easier for a person to keep his attention on the situation and additionally on his partner than on the situation and two partners. It would seem that there is one more, but the potential development options for each elementary situation become 2-4 times more. Time is taken away for coordinating actions, cognitive resources are taken away for thinking through actions, the group leader needs 2 times more time to give commands. At a time when two people sometimes do not need commands at all, the second number in most cases from the development of the situation is obvious the most suitable course of action, on the contrary, if there are two second numbers (!) there is confusion between them.
    On the other hand, since most of our combat clashes (except partly aviation) occur in pseudo-two-dimensional space, i.e. conditionally on a plane, then the ability to envelop the enemy, envelop with fire taking into account his shelters, or consistently conduct a maneuver with the maintenance of crossfire requires the presence of at least two points of fire, while the third is moving.
    Now about homeostasis, a small group for life in a hostile environment requires the presence of 4 members, so that they can take turns sleeping 8 hours a day.
    In total, in my opinion, the minimum tactical infantry group should consist of 4 people. Divided into 2 pairs - "leader-slave". In this case, by default, one pair will also be the leader, and the second - the slave. Of course, in some conditions the structure will be rebuilt, but as a basis, the "2 + 2" scheme should be taken.
    Gone are the days when the criterion for the size of an infantry squad was the throat of a corporal/sergeant capable of shouting to the outermost fighters of a unit deployed at the front, taking into account dispersal.
    This suggests the conclusion that the volume of armored vehicles can be limited to 4 landing personnel, taking into account the increase in protection, without a massive increase in the cost of units.
    1. 0
      19 August 2025 07: 27
      ps At the beginning of WWII, the Red Army aviation flew in units of 3 aircraft, then, based on experience, they switched to pairs.
      pss Tank platoon of the Russian Ministry of Defense 3 tanks. Tank platoon of NATO 4 tanks, from two pairs.
      1. 0
        19 August 2025 07: 34
        Quote: magomedsv
        Tank platoon of the Russian Ministry of Defense 3 tanks. Tank platoon of NATO 4 tanks, from two pairs

        In the Russian Federation there is one platoon commander. And in NATO - what? Really two? belay

        Quote: magomedsv
        It is much easier for a person to keep his attention on the situation and additionally on his partner than on the situation and two partners

        And even simpler - without an ensemble (c).
        1. 0
          19 August 2025 07: 51
          "And what about NATO? Really two? belay"
          4 tanks, from two pairs. The platoon commander is the leader in his pair. In case of the platoon commander's death, the commander of the second pair assumes command of the platoon, unless otherwise agreed.
          In terms of military science and scientific approach to activity in general, NATO has left us far behind. Take JC3IEDM for example.
          1. 0
            19 August 2025 07: 53
            Quote: magomedsv
            The platoon commander is the leader in his pair. In the event of the death of the platoon commander, the commander of the second pair takes command of the platoon.

            That is, the driver commands:

            - yourself, beloved
            - a tank from "your" pair
            - commander of the second pair.

            Attention, question: how is this better than a platoon of 3 tanks? Answer: nothing, and not worse.
            1. 0
              19 August 2025 08: 02
              Attention answer. "In most cases, the second number will see the most appropriate course of action from the development of the situation." The second pair commander has enough instructions regarding the general plan. In such a formation, the platoon commander is freed from commands like "you go there..., stand so that..., and the second one go there... look to the right..., and when I... the second one I'm reloading,... the third one while he covers... go around to the right"
              Instead, "the first pair suppresses with fire from the front, the second pair outflanks"
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                19 August 2025 08: 11
                Quote: magomedsv
                The platoon commander in such a formation is freed from commands like "you go there..., stand so that..., and the second one go there... look to the right..., and when I... the second one I'm reloading,... the third one while he covers... go around to the right"

                That's it, thank you, I have no more questions.
  20. +1
    23 August 2025 07: 59
    Quote: Victor Alien
    You are again confusing what, how and why is being done. Here no one can explain in detail what, how and why such tactics. When will everyone understand - there is nothing identical in military actions and there can't be. Conditions, time and people cannot be absolutely repeatable. You are all thinking too narrowly.

    It is very easy to explain why such tactics are used. Modern military theory has encountered the fact that it is impossible to secretly and relatively safely concentrate large forces for a breakthrough a la WWII. Any attempt at such a concentration is stopped by UAV strikes and a swarm of drones. And I would like to offer all critics of the "eternal battle for the forester's hut": advise a real operational-tactical solution in conditions when any significant concentration of forces and means is covered by UAVs and drones. And it is easy to criticize and shout: "Give us Kyiv and Lvov".
  21. -1
    8 September 2025 10: 44
    It is good to fight in "twos" and "threes", and probably right, but it takes too long.
  22. +1
    4 December 2025 01: 09
    But in reality, we bought ourselves some TUTs, an anti-drone system, and walked 15 km along the gray road to the khokhlo. The bird didn't make it, there were no batteries, a mortar that had been fired, and crooked Korean mines. We had an automatic rifle with four magazines and a couple of grenades, you can't carry more. And there was one scared guy there. Ukrainian If you get caught in front of everyone, you'll get a grandma and a swarm of small change, and that's it, let's move on to the next two. A lot depends on the senior command here. If they're after a flag cap and a medal with a shoulder strap, a ton of people will fall, but if they're after their heads, they'll give every soldier a dressing down and quietly take down the Ukrainian.
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    4 December 2025 23: 24
    Another creation by an expert far removed from reality. There are so many of them around these days...