Where do Moldovan political elites lead the country?

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Apparently, the political crisis in Moldova is gaining momentum. The absence of a government, the place of which is still occupied by a group of officials with the status of "acting", leads to the fact that the country is thrown from fire and into the fire, at least, if the conversation is about the so-called political elites. Contradictions are observed literally in each of those issues that the Moldovan authorities are trying to solve. Consider these contradictions in more detail.

Literally the other day, Moldovan parliamentarians ratified an agreement with the European Union, which regulates the options for the participation of Moldovan military personnel in joint operations with EU military personnel under the notoriously named “European Union Crisis Management Operations”. Not only does the name itself shed light on who on our planet, it turns out, is ready to take crisis levers in its hands, so also the participation of Moldovan soldiers and officers in such actions looks more than doubtful. Why? Yes, if only because the Moldovan authorities prefer to talk about their state as an adherent of permanent neutrality.

Fuel to the fire adds information that in the near future a few dozen Moldovan soldiers will be in riots and in fact incessant civil war African states - Mali and Somalia. While the situation has relatively stabilized in Mali lately (with the active participation of the French military contingent), there is complete chaos in Somalia. Frankly speaking, today it is even difficult to call Somalia a state, because in fact it is a certain conglomerate of communities that is in the stage of permanent war. What function Moldovans will perform here cannot be said for sure even in the Moldovan Ministry of Defense. Moreover, they cannot explain there how the statements about the Moldovan neutrality are combined with participation in military operations in the African continent, and also as part of the joint EU contingent.
The signing of the document on “crisis management” caused an ambiguous reaction even among the ruling elites. Some deputies expressed the opinion that Chisinau could not curb its own crises, and therefore attempts to manage the crises of a foreign spill would not lead to anything good either.

However, this is not the end of the Moldovan power differences. The second stumbling block was the decision to open border-migration posts between Moldova and Transdnistrian Moldavian Republic. At first, the official Chisinau said that there would be no new posts at the border, and that the presence of these checkpoints would not affect the residents of Transnistria. They say that the emphasis is on using the already existing migration control points in order to establish the movement of foreign citizens between Moldova and Transdniestria. But then the situation began to show itself somewhat strange. The Moldovan side, stating that the registration procedure will be voluntary at all, continued, let's say, to breathe unevenly to Transnistrians who have a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation or Ukraine. And if we consider that in the Transnistrian Moldavian Republic citizens of Russia are about 180 thousand people and another about 100 thousand citizens of Ukraine (in total more than half of the population of the republic), then immediately it becomes clear who the initiative with “voluntary” registration with the PMP is against ( border and migration posts) sent.

But why did official Chisinau suddenly need to keep records of Russian and Ukrainian Transdniestrian citizens moving between Transnistria and Moldova? Light on this question shed representatives of the liberal political elites. For some time, the Moldovan liberals have once again tightened the old bagpipe about the spies of Moscow and Kiev, who literally occupied Moldova and promote an "anti-democratic" policy. The lobbying oligarchic circles, and even the Kremlin’s agent, suspicious liberals in Chisinau announced Anna Guцуa, who is in favor of giving the Romanian language in Moldova the status of a state. Well, if Gutu has somehow become for liberals, to which she herself, by the way, refers, to the personification of Moscow’s influence, then what about ordinary citizens of Moldova and Transdniestria, and even with Russian or Ukrainian passports. This is where paranoia awakens, according to which all people with foreign passports living in the Transdniestrian territory and wanting to come, for example, to Chisinau or Falesti for one reason or another, urgently need to be taken as a hypothetical spy for Vladimir Putin or Viktor Yanukovich for a pencil ...

Against this background, a split is found in the camp of the Moldovan liberal elites themselves. Literally the other day, in the course of the attempt to consolidate, undertaken by members of the Liberal Party of Moldova, and the beginning of more active political actions, there was absolutely no consolidation in the camp of the liberals, but a real fight. Mihai Ghimpu, who at one time served as head of Moldova, literally attacked Vitaly Marinuta, currently acting minister of war of the republic. Ghimpu, co-leader of the party, decided that during the meeting Marinuta was making some notes for Vlad Filat, and therefore he tried to wrest from the acting president. the minister of defense of his paper. It came to an open brawl, which those present took video, and she (the brawl) became public.

On the page - fights of Ghimpu and Marinuta.

After that, even supporters of the Liberal Party declared that it was not a parliamentary force, but a gathering of mentally ill people, each of whom claims to be the most violent. Best of all, this is still possible for the ardent supporter of the entry of Moldova into Romania, Mihai Ghimpu ...

After the scuffle, the assembly of Moldovan liberals for obvious reasons had to be completed in fire order. However, its work, let's say, in a separate version of the outraged Moldovan liberals continued. This continuation was the collection of signatures in support of plans for the accession of Moldova to Romania. Note: not even the unification of the two countries, namely, the entry of Moldova into another state.

The collection of signatures with the active support of liberal elites was conducted by the Romanian organization "Aktsiunya-2012". Despite the fact that supporters of the loss of Moldovan statehood while simultaneously joining the Romanian state in Moldova are no more than 7%, the organizers of the action declare its success, and call on the Romanian parliament to amend the constitution, according to which the country can expand at the expense of Moldova.

All these news They say that the Moldovan political elites, not being able to reach internal consensus, are looking for happiness on the side. But if participation in military operations in Africa and the loss of sovereignty due to absorption by another state is happiness, then the Moldovan “kingdom” is definitely not okay ...
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  1. +5
    April 18 2013 08: 00
    Moldova itself, as a state, is not viable, and for the sake of self-preservation, it simply must be under the protection of someone. So every time they choose with whom it is more profitable for them ...
    1. vadimus
      +14
      April 18 2013 09: 32
      And so Moldova is losing its roots ... But it will be older than Romania! And the story with Russia has always been connected.
      1. moldavan
        +1
        April 18 2013 13: 08
        in the 90s, Russia left such a country and we give the Romanians a Russian soldier may not help as before, but we’ll come for help request
      2. -3
        April 18 2013 15: 43
        Quote: vadimus
        And so Moldova is losing its roots ... But it will be older than Romania! And the story with Russia has always been connected.


        Not older. All these countries are derived from Dacia, the Dacian empire.

        A pun came to mind: Where are the Moldovan political elites leading the country? In jo ... well, in the bright future of course.
        1. 0
          April 18 2013 16: 17
          http://kosarev.press.md/Utopia-menu-0.htm
        2. 0
          April 18 2013 16: 17
          http://kosarev.press.md/Utopia-menu-0.htm
  2. +5
    April 18 2013 08: 10
    Moldova, for a short time, will remain independent, in my opinion. She will be absorbed either by Romania or Russia. Much depends on leadership.
    1. +3
      April 18 2013 09: 55
      Quote: radio operator
      Moldova, for a short time, will remain independent, in my opinion. She will be absorbed either by Romania or Russia.
      The thing is that the PMR is legally part of Moldova. It is this that delays the process. Russia, like Ukraine, will not get involved in the section simply because it means a war with NATO.
      Romanians work great. In practice, the country is already under the protectorate of Romania, key posts are held by Romanian citizens. It remains nonsense, by any means to force the PMR to submit to Kishenev or announce the collapse of the country (which, in my opinion, will be done in the near future (a year or two), Moldova will disappear .
      1. +1
        April 18 2013 22: 25
        Quote: domokl
        It remains nonsense — by any means to force the PMR to submit to Kishenev or announce the collapse of the country (which, in my opinion, will be done in the near future (a year or two)), Moldova will disappear.

        But if you don’t manage to agree with the NDP, then Moldova can fall into such an economic abyss !! Yes, and Romania is not a locomotive, the most debts on jo ....
        The Romanians themselves would rather like to improve their financial situation at the expense of Moldova, and industry in Moldova is only in Poland!
    2. +2
      April 18 2013 11: 01
      Quote: svp67
      Moldova itself, as a state, is not viable, and for the sake of self-preservation, it is simply obliged to be under someone's protection.

      Here you need to open the quotation marks. In the light of the spheres of geopolitical influence, no state today can be absolutely independent, except for the centers of influence themselves (and even with certain reservations). It is clear.
      In terms of financial independence, most countries today are not completely independent (issues of globalization and dependence on the dollar).
      If we talk about the vitality of Moldova within the framework established by today's realities, then everything is in our hands. Do you need examples?
      Quote: radio operator
      Moldova, for a short time, will remain independent, in my opinion. She will be absorbed either by Romania or Russia. Much depends on leadership.

      It will not be absorbed by Russia unequivocally; Russia does not need it first of all.
    3. +2
      April 18 2013 11: 36
      "Moldova, in my opinion, will remain independent for a short time" - it is as if it is independent of its people and you are right when you say this time is running out.
      "It will be absorbed either by Romania" - I hope that doesn't make you happy.
      "either by Russia" - what a takeover without a predator!
      "Much depends on the leadership" - even more depends on the people on whose neck this leadership sits. A striking example of Transnistria - they threw off the party apparatus back in 89 and this is what they were not forgiven, there was no interethnic conflict - they just intervened in the drain of the country with Gorbachev and a clique.
  3. 0
    April 18 2013 08: 24
    Where are they going? Yes, well ... they lead her. Well, good riddance. Only gentlemen, when you come there do not complain to us.
    1. +5
      April 18 2013 08: 38
      only at first it is necessary to take care of almost 300 thousands of Russians and Ukrainians. because if they become part of Romania (to assume purely hypothetically), then they will no longer detach from Transnistria
      1. +3
        April 18 2013 11: 07
        Quote: self-propelled
        only at first it is necessary to take care of almost 300 thousands of Russians and Ukrainians. because if they become part of Romania (to assume purely hypothetically), then they will no longer detach from Transnistria

        self-propelled, your words and yes to the ears. And this is only in the PMR. And how many are there in Moldova itself? At least add the same amount.
    2. +1
      April 18 2013 09: 56
      Quote: retired
      Only gentlemen, when you come there do not complain to us.

      No, in this case they will crawl to us on their "knees" ... Remembering the common GREAT past
      1. 0
        April 18 2013 11: 52
        And does Russia have more in common with its former republics? Fifth columns of all countries unite?
    3. krest.ros
      +3
      April 18 2013 11: 03
      Who are they? And are we Russian speakers too? Express your thoughts more specifically.
      1. +2
        April 18 2013 11: 48
        They are insulted and humiliated. There is no place anywhere and it does not matter what language they speak. This is evidenced by the victims of the massacre in Chechnya, the Asian republics, and even ... 10-15 years old, rode on a train raised similar topics and a neighbor, a Russian officer, told his sister about the problem. Her apartment burned down along with her documents and for several years she had been living without a passport, and if it had not been for the help of her relatives, she would have been homeless for a long time.
      2. 0
        April 18 2013 13: 23
        Quote: krest.ros
        Who are they? And are we Russian speakers too? Express your thoughts more specifically


        I actually had a "possessing and leading class" ...
    4. +4
      April 18 2013 11: 05
      Quote: retired
      Where are they going? Yes, well ... they lead her. Well, good riddance. Only gentlemen, when you come there do not complain to us.

      You see, dear pensioner, those who are clearly will not complain. They know what they are doing. As for ordinary people, it’s impossible so categorically ...
      In 2009 half of the voters cast their ballots to the Communists. About 40% of democrats and liberal democrats who did not shout about unification with Romania. The pro-Romanian-minded population in Moldova is a minority if we talk about the support of unionists.
  4. +5
    April 18 2013 08: 34
    "... in the near future, several dozen Moldovan servicemen will find themselves in unrest and in fact an ongoing civil war in African states - Mali and Somalia ..."
    Well now, even in Africa there will be European-quality repairs laughing
    1. ksandr45
      +2
      April 18 2013 09: 59
      Just now I noticed the phrase "Several dozen" is how much? 90 soldiers, and what they can do in the same Somalia, in which not the last American Delta and the Rangers were made by the aborigines. Well, not otherwise, and really will be engaged in European repair :)
    2. 0
      April 18 2013 11: 56
      "laughing"
      - Is it schadenfreude or pure "joy"?
      1. +1
        April 18 2013 15: 36
        JOY ONLY AND NOTHING EXCEPT FOR JOY smile
  5. +11
    April 18 2013 09: 10
    There are 7% of Romania's supporters, if so then there is no desire for the remaining 93% to go out into the street and send "their" government in three letters?
    1. +2
      April 18 2013 11: 09
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      There are 7% of Romania's supporters, if so then there is no desire for the remaining 93% to go out into the street and send "their" government in three letters?

      But in the government just the liberal unionists are a minority. It consists mainly of democrats and liberal democrats. Just these, to my surprise, enjoy the support of a large part of the population. They peck like hungry crucians on the bait of integration with the EU.
  6. UFO
    +12
    April 18 2013 09: 11
    More than 20 years have passed, the attempts of the former Soviet republics (not only Moldova) to "stick" to some community or bloc resemble the behavior of a village idiot who came to the city with the goal of getting married. The final is known - everyone will only "use". hi
    1. +1
      April 18 2013 09: 23
      What an accurate definition, colleague! laughing
      you plus good
    2. 0
      April 18 2013 11: 16
      Gorbachev very clearly told the republican officials to take as much sovereignty as you can and will have time and the people who voted 90% for the preservation of the Union resisted, "behaving like a village fool" - are you the successor of his cause?
      1. Belogor
        0
        April 18 2013 15: 42
        to be precise, this was said by Yeltsin on August 6, 1990 (head of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR). Yeltsin uttered the historic phrase: "take as much sovereignty as you can swallow" ....
        1. 0
          April 18 2013 18: 03
          Thanks for the amendment, but not the point, they have one source of "inspiration" and they did the same thing. Therefore, he was not afraid to make a mistake, and in my opinion the hunchback made a greater contribution to this matter.
  7. fenix57
    +1
    April 18 2013 09: 40
    Oh, these IOs in the government and so do not understand what, and wherever they (IO) were not: be sure, this is a mess. hi And the Moldovan military in Mali, well, that’s ... crying
  8. Vrungel78
    0
    April 18 2013 09: 46
    They would invite Kostya Tszyu, would conduct a master class. I'm about the video.
  9. 0
    April 18 2013 09: 59
    "Every nation is worthy of its ruler!" Ukraine, Moldavia, Georgia, etc. have turned their loins to Russia - this is their right, their sovereignty. There is no need to interfere, let alone help these states. Rossi's only duty to help their to citizens in these states, OWN. (that is, citizens of Russia). It's time for some to understand that the USSR does not exist and they must choose their citizenship and then not "say" that he is Russian, but a citizen of the United States, Israel, a banana republic and the like.
    1. +4
      April 18 2013 11: 14
      Quote: d.gksueyjd
      Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, etc. turned into loin parts to Russia - this is their right, their sovereignty. There is nothing to intervene, much less help these states.

      But what the hell are the EU and the US very actively dictating their terms? Will we play with one goal? And what kind of intervention are you talking about? Russia is very moderate on the Moldovan political scene, I would say too moderate.
      And all these cries about the "hand of Moscow" are just another provocation. The ruling parties are losing their positions great, they are now happy for any reason to win back a losing situation and return the status quo.
  10. +3
    April 18 2013 11: 07
    99% of Moldovans speak now and always spoke Russian. Study this minimum amount of materials and after that you can argue in terms of benefits and grievances, and the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, and a lot of other things at home and abroad are also not profitable - liberal salt so, will we clear our presence?
    Especially the first link is a list of feature articles.

    http://kosarev.press.md/Utopia-menu-0.htm
    http://magazines.russ.ru/druzhba/2002/9/ber.html
    http://magazines.russ.ru/druzhba/2002/10/bersh.html
    http://eurasiainform.md/v-gagauzii-projdet-mezhdunarodnaya-konferenciya-po-evraz
    ijskoj-integracii-moldavii.html
    http://eurasiainform.md/dannie-oprosa-70-ru.html
    http://eurasiainform.md/moldova-i-rossiya-sblizhayut-pozicii-po-voprosu-razvitiy
    a-ideoloii-konservatizma-na-postsovetskom-prostranstve.html
  11. Dipsy
    +2
    April 18 2013 11: 21
    Quote: self-propelled
    only at first it is necessary to take care of almost 300 thousands of Russians and Ukrainians. because if they become part of Romania (to assume purely hypothetically), then they will no longer detach from Transnistria

    and it’s quite likely that Slavs will be treated like in the Baltic states
    "non-citizens", etc.
  12. Pancake
    -1
    April 18 2013 13: 37
    Sincerely happy for Moldova. They go west and go right, not paying attention to their wretched past.
  13. +8
    April 18 2013 13: 59
    Moldovans, you are a nation and your language is Moldavian! And the Romanians are a people without a clan and tribe, (“valahi hicleni” ie treacherous Wallachians, as Stefan / Stefan the Great defined them) with ... whether the name is from the Romans, and they named their country accordingly. And where was Romania until the 18th century.
    On February 5, 1859, Alexander Ioann Cuza was elected Prince of Wallachia. The first ruler of Romania betrayed Russia, introduced Latin graphics alien to Moldovans and Wallachians, and also began to eradicate Slavic languages ​​originally used on the territory of Moldova and Wallachia.
    In accordance with the decision of the Berlin Congress of 1878, Romania received international recognition as an independent state. The dominator is Karol I from the German dynasty of the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. The German plan began to push Russia away from the Balkans.
    Do not let your foolish pseudo-historians fool themselves. Stop the Romanian infection!
  14. +4
    April 18 2013 16: 49
    Here I read the statements of our politicians and the impression is that they do not live in Moldova, but from somewhere on Mars brought them. Neither support of the population, nor logic in business is visible. The only logical explanation they have already been bought for a long time. Someone goes to pay in Bucharest and someone in Brussels. I want to believe that this temporary brainwashing of the ruling elite will soon pass. I really want this to happen before Moldova ceases to exist. And do not think that this is democracy that leads us into such an ass and it’s like the voice of the people. It’s just that the western and Romanian vector of influence now, unfortunately, is felt in this territory stronger than the Russian one. Maybe we are lucky and over time we will have political forces that know the history of their country and will be proud of it, but be proud, believe those are what as an example
    Stefan than waged 48 wars and won 44 victories. He resisted the Ottoman Empire, thus protecting Europe from the Turkish invasion.
    1. +1
      April 18 2013 17: 21
      Quote: mihai_md2003
      I want to believe that this temporary brainwashing of the ruling elite will soon pass.

      The euphoria has passed, liquefaction is more like a diagnosis. We should not build empty plans and rely on those who are now in power. In the near future, new players should appear, and then we will dream.
  15. vkusniikorj
    -1
    April 18 2013 17: 52
    what I want to say to all the gentlemen and former comrades!
    the time will come, and trouble will step on your doorstep, and there will be no one to stand shoulder to shoulder, because you laughed, and you had one "bulbash" another "chock" third "crest" fourth "gypsy" !!!
    1. 0
      April 18 2013 18: 28
      Do not react so to the irresponsible statements of the overwhelming minority, which is not even interested in the situation in the former republics and eats squeals of the SMD about big problems with the Gaster and the bytes, these generalizations only aggravate the situation. They don’t know that this, like other problems, was artificially created, it’s necessary to call people migrant workers, hardly anyone pronounces this word with respect. And the goal is to cut the living ties between people and surround Russia with small, state-controlled states and continue dismemberment.
  16. Igoriok222
    +5
    April 18 2013 20: 52
    I'll be brief. In Moldova, Russian-speaking people are clearly more than 80%. 60% + support rapprochement with Russia. During the 3 years of the Alliance for European Integration rule, the breakthrough was only in words. For 3 years, officials have been quarreling, fighting and sharing money. In recent years, the number of students wishing to enter Russian universities has increased many times over. A large number of people want to obtain Russian citizenship, but they meet obstacles from the Moldovan authorities. For 20 years of independence nothing worthwhile has been done. I look forward to action from Russia. "Save our souls", Russians! Maybe I am making unpatriotic statements, but I can no longer tolerate this chaos. Occupy us, Russia. We lived much better together.
    1. +2
      April 18 2013 22: 39
      For 20 years of independence nothing worthwhile has been done. I look forward to action from Russia. "Save our souls", Russians!
      How couldn’t anything be done? And the reconstruction of the park with the transfer of the monument to Chelmara closer to the avenue in relation to the monument to Lenin, with the subsequent transfer of the monument to Lenin on Buyukany "for better preservation"? And the renaming of all the streets with non-Moldavian names, and the creation of a bunch of explanatory inscriptions so that the locals do not get confused, for example: the inscription on the sign of the bus (Petrarilor Street, the former Botany)? And the crowds with burning eyes, chanting "limb nostra, limb moldavenaska"? Did trips to Tiraspol establish a tricolor? And what about the air bombing of Parkan? And the attempt to shoot Bender? A lot of things have been done. At the same time, Russia was clearly not asked for advice. And the Romanians, as far as I remember, the Moldavians never considered for people and did not hide it.
  17. +1
    April 19 2013 06: 36
    Quote: domokl
    The thing is that the PMR is legally part of Moldova. It is this that delays the process. Russia, like Ukraine, will not get involved in the section simply because it means a war with NATO.
    Romanians work great. In practice, the country is already under the protectorate of Romania, key posts are held by Romanian citizens. It remains nonsense, by any means to force the PMR to submit to Kishenev or announce the collapse of the country (which, in my opinion, will be done in the near future (a year or two), Moldova will disappear .

    I also think so in order to become a province of Romania and the outskirts of the EU, Moldovan traitors will go to join the territory of Romania that is. And Romania itself will later deal with the PMR problem and, inspired by success with Chisinau, will mercilessly put pressure on the PMR. I think that the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Foreign Intelligence Service are keeping everything under control there, all the same, 180 thousand Russian citizens are obliged.