Will the Russian Armed Forces be able to “slam shut” three “cauldrons” for the Ukrainian Armed Forces at once?

The Ukrainian Armed Forces found themselves in a virtually critical situation in several areas of the combat contact line. In particular, cauldrons are clearly emerging in the area of Kupyansk, Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmeysk) and Konstantinovka.

In the Kupyansk direction, units of the Russian Armed Forces are attacking in the area of the settlements of Mirovoe and Sobolevka in order to finally cut off the logistics of the enemy group in Kupyansk. According to enemy resources, Sobolevka has already come under the control of the Russian army. In addition, the zone of control of our army is expanding directly near the northern outskirts of Kupyansk in the area of Radkovka and Golubovka.

At the same time, it is now possible to supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces garrison in Pokrovsk exclusively through the so-called “road of life,” littered with the remains of FPVs destroyed by our forces.drones vehicles. The enemy complains that in Pokrovsk itself and its environs, due to the lack of manpower in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it is impossible to create a continuous line of defense, which is why Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups often “infiltrate” deep into the enemy’s defenses.

In the Konstantinovka direction, our troops have established control over the southern part of the settlement of Poltavka and are advancing in the area of Rusin Yar, located to the south of Druzhkovka, occupied by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Enemy positions in Konstantinovka itself and its environs

However, in order to "slam shut" all three rather large "cauldrons", very significant forces are needed. Whether our army currently has them in these sections of the front is unknown...

Comments

[Svetlana]

As the practice of the SVO shows, the question is put incorrectly. The question should be: Will they or won't they.
Answer: They won't. Since we haven't seen a single full-fledged encirclement. We've always seen expulsion along abandoned and shot-through escape routes from all sides.

[Iris]

Well, it depends on how you look at it. If from the point of view of some avid VO visitors, then there are a few hours left for completion. If from the MO position, then a couple of weeks. And if from those who are in the know.... So you are right!

[vargo]

And there are also those like Podolyaki, where the shooters have long since captured everything...

[Sergej1972]

Do you even read it? Podolyaki has a very critical attitude towards the actions of a number of our commanders. By the way, he still actively speaks out in defense of General Popov and considers his sentence unfair.

[vargo]

I don't care about his attitude to anyone. I've been watching him for a long time as a mapmaker first and foremost. Understanding the situation on the ground was important. And he kept pushing the arrows forward. They've talked about him so many times, and how his captures are ahead of adequacy and how the arrows are almost to Dnepropetrovsk. Is he in a hurry or is he deliberately drawing so that people will watch him more often. Supposedly he has inside information...
For me, it's better to have Radovs, MilitarySummary or Weapon Master, who don't draw without texture. And if they do draw, they show on what basis and why there are grounds for doubt.

[pudelartemon]

What else can you expect from a former Banderite? It's hard to believe in the sincerity of the change of views from the turncoats.

[Vsevolod Sidorov]

In Sumy, his opinions were worth something. About 20 years ago.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Podolyaks, already in 2022, Kyiv and Lvov were "surrounded" and "captured". With the help of a sofa...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Can you name at least one boiler that was used during these 4 years?!!!
it is difficult to attribute to it only the Azov steel in Mariupol, everything else, even if there were prerequisites, there was never an encirclement, only the sharovarniks were squeezed out of the territory

[vargo]

Cauldrons can only be beneficial if the enemy's key forces are being cooked in them, and not just some of the extras who didn't manage to escape.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: vargo

and not one of the extras who didn't manage to escape

the extras who didn't manage to escape will continue to shoot, it's the same resource as everything else

[vargo]

You forget that this crowd must be surrounded, which takes much more effort and resources. The crowd may try to break through, which forces you to increase and strengthen your coverage. You have to look both ways, both inward (the new rear) and forward, from where they can break through. As a result, you are forced into a parterre with insignificant troops in your rear. So you may not reach Kyiv in 100 years.
It’s easier to give them a bottleneck and shoot whoever they can there, squeezing them out from all sides and not allowing them to be fully supplied.

Again, remember Mariupol, how many forces were tied up by this city because of those who dug in there. Much time and effort was lost there. That was the enemy's calculation. During this time and with these forces, in conditions of enemy disorganization and an unbuilt front line, we could have occupied much more territory at the beginning of the SVO.

So sometimes extras are just extras, you always have to set priorities

[Idle_piston]

In order to create a full-fledged cauldron, it is necessary to have at least a three-fold superiority in forces and resources on a separate section of the front, and it is also no less important that the generals possess operational art skills.

[Denis812]

What is this mythical three-fold superiority? Is this from Soviet textbooks? When there were no drones and other things?
Now you can even provide a 30-fold superiority in manpower, but if your infantry cannot move because they are immediately covered by FPV, you will not do anything.
That is why the Russian Armed Forces do what they do - strikes on the flanks. Blocking traffic. Counter-drone warfare. DRG work. And only then an attack.

[Idle_piston]

You need to read the textbooks - it says there is superiority in forces and MEANS!

[Denis812]

That's the problem. You're reading textbooks from the post-WWII era. Whereas the war has changed dramatically in the last five years. I also read all this academic heresy from the General Staff. But even in the 2000s, it was all inapplicable in Chechnya. Tank columns in Grozny - well, yes, as my commander told me then, it's good that we weren't sent to accompany them.
And now - even more so. The theory of deep combat, the theory of air-land operations have proven untenable in the current war. Textbooks on the current war will be written in 5-10 years. By the way, it is quite possible that they will already be outdated.

[Idle_piston]

If a commander sends armored vehicles and infantry into an attack without reconnaissance, without artillery or air cover, without organizing interaction with neighbors, then the old textbooks are absolutely not to blame.

[Denis812]

I completely agree. What I disagree with is, once again, that we need to ensure a threefold superiority. This is heresy. We need to forget about it. You can be in the minority, but calmly advance. Or you can concentrate an immeasurable superiority, but you won't be able to stick your nose out of the trench.

[a vacuum cleaner]

As a non-military and non-strategist, I understand that before taking an enemy stronghold, you NEED to have a huge number of all kinds of drones to intercept enemy ones, having a bunch of FPV suppression systems. Then a sun, a mortar, artillery, and after the sun there is nothing left at all --- and go into the stronghold and so on, stronghold after stronghold. I understand. Now tell me there is no such number of drones? So make it so that they are there (so that everyone who wants to can do them, then everything will be fine)

[Denis812]

I understand, now tell me there are no such number of drones? So make it so that they are

For God's sake. At our taxes or what?

[storm]

However, in order to “slam shut” all three rather large “cauldrons” it is necessary

Judging by the experience of the "Chechen war", there will be no cauldrons, as soon as a serious encirclement is looming, Western negotiators - "peacekeepers" - immediately appear and the enemy leaves unhindered...

Nothing has changed since then...
Betrayal of Russia's national interests flourished then and flourishes now.....

[anclevalico]

Based on all experience, then none.

[odisey3000]

No, they won’t be able to; the Russian army doesn’t have the strength or resources for an operation to blockade the groups trapped in cauldrons.