Military Review

Iranian Air Defense

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Today, the air defense forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) are armed with a large number of Soviet, Russian and foreign-made air defense systems. All this is due historical factors that were characteristic of this country and region in the late 1970s, as well as the desire of the military-political leadership of the country to build their own effective weapons models, while borrowing advanced foreign technologies.


Back in 1972, the Iranian Air Force Command signed a contract with the United States for the supply to the country of 24 batteries of advanced Hawk air defense systems. The amount of the contract amounted to about 280 million dollars, it was the largest contract ever concluded with the US Rocket Command at that time. Such a big deal was due to Iran’s desire to develop as soon as possible a single, effective air defense system that would protect the country from air aggression. But these plans did not come true. 4 November 1979, Iranian revolutionaries seized the American embassy in Tehran, which led to the rupture of all military contracts between states.

In 1980-ies, Iran did not make any significant purchases of air defense systems, with the exception of shipments to Iran of batches of missiles for Hawk, which ironically were shipped from Israel and the United States during the Iran-Iraq war. In addition, information about the supply of Chinese-made HQ-2 SAM systems (later the complex was modernized and received the designations Sayyad-1 and Sayyad-1А) appeared in open sources, it is still in service. With the end of the 8 war, Iran once again became interested in building an effective air defense system.
Iranian Air Defense
LAW "Tor-M1"

At the same time, a shift in priorities occurred, the Iranian military turned their attention to Soviet-made military equipment, namely the SA-6 Gainful air defense system. In 1990, the first Cube "Cube" stood on combat duty. The choice in favor of this complex was made because it showed itself well during the war between Israel and Egypt in the 1973 year. At the same time, at the end of the 1980, Iran acquired the C-200 (SA-5 Gammon) air defense system from the USSR. It is this complex that forms the basis of the Iranian air defense and has the greatest range of destruction of air targets.

According to information from Iranian sources, which refer to Brigadier General Farzad Esmayili, Iran has achieved quite significant success in modernizing its C-200 air defense system. Most likely, with the modernization of these complexes, Iran did not go without outside help. As a possible developer and performer of the C-200 modernization program, a number of analysts refer to the company Tetrahedr OJSC from Belarus, which was born in 2001, and specializes in the modernization of Soviet-made air defense systems. This company has a license to carry out independent foreign economic activity through the MTC of Belarus with foreign countries.

So even in 2003, the specialists of this company carried out the modernization of air defense systems C-200В "Vega" for the needs of the Belarusian armed forces. Currently, this company offers its customers the modernization of the C-200BE air defense system by incorporating equipment, which is based on the latest achievements in the field of digital technology, signal processing and the latest technologies. In this case, the modernization of the air defense missile system can be carried out in the places of their permanent deployment on the territory of the customer. The number of these complexes in the air defense system of Iran in open sources is very different from 10 to 200 PU both Soviet and Iranian production. It should be noted that the number of PUs with a fairly high probability exceeds 10 units.
MERSAD air defense system

In addition to the Cube air defense system in the middle of 1990, Iran acquired various batches of Soviet air defense systems: the C-75 Dvina (SA-2 Guideline) and the Strela-2М (A-7 Grail). In addition, Iran has acquired a number of Chinese air defense systems - HQ-2J / 2B, which are a clone of the Soviet C-75 complex. Tehran also purchased the Rapier 30 PU ZRK from the UK, as well as the Tigercat 15 PU, created by South African specialists. At the same time, Russia delivered the Tor-M1 SAM system to Iran ”(SA-15 Gauntlet), but in 1995, under US pressure, Russia froze for a time its military cooperation with Iran. This mainly affected the supply of modern weapons systems. For this reason, Iran was forced to turn its attention to cooperation with China, the DPRK, as well as the development of its own air defense missile systems.

In 2003, Romania delivered to Iran a batch of the “Cub” air defense missile system, and then Tehran again began to increase purchases of air defense systems of the Russian assembly from other states. At the same time, in 2006, he managed to acquire in Russia 29 Tor-M1 complexes, which made it possible to significantly improve the air defense system of the most important Iranian objects: Tehran, Bushehr, Isfahan, etc. In 2008, the CIA, citing reliable sources, reported that Iran’s arming at least 1 is a Boeing-707-3J9C aircraft, this is a Boeing-707 transport aircraft converted into an DLRO aircraft. According to the Americans, this aircraft can be used in the interests of Iran’s air defense, since a complex of modern high-performance equipment is installed on board.

In addition, there is information that India has sold the Feldermaus shooting control system to Iran, which is intended for use with Oerlikon GDF-35 anti-aircraft 001-mm anti-aircraft guns. According to some information, these systems can replace the SkyGuard radar, which Iran acquired before the revolution (24 pieces). In addition to the already mentioned 35-mm "Oerlikon" in service of Iranian air defense are "Shilka", ZU-23-2 and ZPU-4 - all of Soviet production.

At the end of September 2011, Iran announced the adoption of the Mersad complexes, which were created on the basis of the American Hawk complexes. According to the information available, these complexes are able to hit targets at a distance from 70 to 150 km. This complex uses the same medium-range Iranian missiles: “Shahin” and “Shalamcheh”. According to the Iranian military, the latter are capable of speeds up to 3-x Mach numbers. According to representatives of the country's Defense Ministry, these air defense systems are highly dynamic and able to hit air targets even in the conditions of active electronic countermeasures from the enemy.

According to information available in open sources, currently, the radar detection and tracking system of Iran’s targets is represented by the 24 radar, which are located along the perimeter of the borders of the Islamic Republic. In addition, 2 radar located in the cities of Arak and Isfahan. Approximately 1 / 3 from all radars is located on the coast of the Persian Gulf. At present, there is no reliable information about the location of the modern Russian ZRPK Pantsir-С1 (obtained by re-export through Syria), but with a high degree of probability it can be argued that they are used to cover the most important atomic facilities of Iran.

Combat composition of Iranian air defense forces

Anti-aircraft missile systems

A certain amount of C-300 of unknown modification (from several units to several divisions), also reported that they could be delivered to the country without missiles;
29 PU "Tor-М1" (17 "Tor-М1" on the track and more 12 complexes in towed version of the "Tor-М1Т", supplied 1200 9М331 missiles);
12-16 divisions (150 PU) SAM "Hawk";
8-10 divisions (45 PU Chinese SIRM HQ-2J)
Unspecified number from 10 to 200 units PU ZRK C-200;
Around 200 PU ZRK "Mersad" of its own production;
5 batteries - 30 PU of British air defense systems of short-term "Rapier";
15 PU TIRKATET;
10 ZRPK "Pantsir-С1".
A certain amount of the Kvadrat air defense missile system;
A number of FM-80, which is the Chinese equivalent of the French "Crotal".
MANPADS "Strela-3"

Man-portable air defense systems: up to 1000 MANPADS of various types as part of ground forces, mainly Soviet-made. Including: 200 "Strela-3", 250 "Strela-2M", 190 Chinese HN-5A (analogue of "Arrow-2"), 100 "Needle-1", 50 RBS-70 and 50 Stinger.
Anti-aircraft artillery is represented by more than 1000 artillery shells, both as part of the ground forces and as part of the air force.

Presented tools Soviet, Swiss, Chinese, Swedish production caliber from 23-mm to 57-mm. There are self-propelled anti-aircraft installations - ZSU-57-2, as well as ZSU-23-4 Shilka.

Weaknesses and opportunities

As the experience of recent military operations shows, the success of a possible military campaign is largely determined by the destruction of enemy air defense systems during the first and second massive strike using a large number of high-precision weapons and cruise missiles. According to a number of Iranian air defense specialists, there are not enough modern air defense systems that would be able to deal with airplanes made using the Stealth technology and modern cruise missiles. In addition, Iran has no long-range air defense systems, with the exception of the Soviet C-200. Press statements about the development of a domestic air defense system in Iran, which would have surpassed C-300, are not confirmed. Although it is impossible to exclude the fact that such developments are underway, and a number of complexes are already in service with Iran. Despite this, it can be assumed that the number of modern air defense systems hardly exceeds the 10 units, which, of course, will not be able to cover the sky of Iran from massive air raids and attacks by cruise missiles.
35-mm Oerlikon art mount

If we take into account the air defense system of the near and medium range, then their number and performance characteristics allow us to say that they are able to repel the attacks of cruise missiles of a potential enemy. But only in the event that these complexes will not be previously wrecked by means of delivery of weapons that will not be included in their zone of destruction. Many military experts are unanimous that clear, well-coordinated and effective actions of the Iranian air defense forces are capable of thwarting the enemy’s plans to eliminate the air defense system in the very first days of mass rocket attacks and bombings. At the same time, the disruption of plans for a lightning war can significantly affect the course of further events and cause a negative reaction in the aggressor countries.

According to Yury Bondar, a Russian military expert, the Iranian air defense system is outdated, but it is able to cause much trouble to Israel or the United States. Gradually, Tehran is adopting an increasing number of new types of weapons. According to him, Iran has well developed UAVs and robotics. At the same time, both tactical and operational and operational-strategic apparatuses. Apparently, they created (most likely, simply copied the Russian) “buildup” systems of anti-radar SD. And that means they are able to protect their own radar. Let a lot of their military equipment and air defense missile systems - this is yesterday, but all this is in working condition.

The second important point is the mountainous terrain of the country, which facilitates the use of tactical air defense systems, such as the Kub (Square), Tor-M1, and Tigercat air defense systems as operational and strategic means. When placed in the mountains, they can become a threat even to strategic aviation - reconnaissance aircraft and bombers. At present, Iran’s air defense is literally one step away from modern requirements that will make any air attack on the country very dangerous and ineffective.

Information sources:
- http://otvaga2004.ru/kaleydoskop/kaleydoskop-army/pvo-irana
- http://www.waronline.org/mideast/iran/airforce/#note-1
- http://hvylya.org/analytics/geopolitics/iran-nakanune-udara-analiz-sostojanija-pvo-i-vvs.html
- http://www.belaruspartizan.org/politic/223310
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  1. Tuzik
    Tuzik April 17 2013 09: 24
    -6
    if there will be aggression on the part of NATO, then they will iron out all the air defense elementary, put up from 3 to 5 thousand aircraft, and there are a lot of tomahawks lying around, a land operation will be a big problem, in the Afghan mountains they have already gotten sad experience.
    1. Dimani
      Dimani April 17 2013 09: 42
      +8
      controversial statement. First, where will NATO countries get so many planes? And the Tomahawks are by no means mass weapons, but rather piece goods.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 17 2013 20: 23
        0
        Quote: Dimani
        First, where will NATO countries get so many planes? And the Tomahawks are by no means mass weapons, but rather piece goods.

        In total, about 4000 pieces were produced and it is rash to call it piece goods !! But the fact that a massive blow to Iran with the help of such a missile should be prepared in advance and will cost fabulous money is no doubt !!!
        The cost of the rocket is approximately $ 1,5 mil
        1. Professor
          Professor April 18 2013 09: 31
          +3
          In total, about 4000 pieces were produced and it is rash to call it piece goods !!

          You are mistaken, more than 6000 Tomahawks were produced in total.
          The US Navy also ordered 200 Tomahawk cruise missiles to be placed on ships and submarines. The US Navy continues to use Tomahawks in combat on a regular basis. Information on most of these launches has been published, but some are still kept secret. Last year several hundred Tomahawks were used against Libya. The Tomahawk cruise missile was first introduced 29 years ago, and since then more than 6000 of these missiles have been produced. The US Navy released more than 2000 KR Tomahawk in combat conditions and 500 on exercises and trials. Currently, the US Navy has more than 3000 Tomahawks on its warships or in storage.
          Later 6000 Tomahawks
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 17 2013 09: 43
      +4
      I believe that at this stage it is possible only a disarming strike on nuclear facilities and there are prerequisites for this. And there is no concentration of funds for a global strike. Iran has an old air defense. And aviation is even worse.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 17 2013 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        I believe that at this stage it is possible only a disarming strike on nuclear facilities and there are prerequisites for this. And there is no concentration of funds for a global strike. Iran has an old air defense. And aviation is even worse.
        You are partly right!
        But hitting nuclear facilities cannot be stopped, because Iran will try to answer !!
        Their air defense is old and in poor condition, I know for sure, they show a lot of fake development work to somehow distract the enemy!
        The UAVs created do not meet the requirements of the time and are of poor quality!
        And there’s no aviation!
        Iran will be scattered from the air and then plunged into a long civil war !!
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus April 17 2013 18: 04
          +4
          Quote: Yarbay
          Iran will be scattered from the air and then plunged into a long civil war !!

          Iran has excellent counters not related to air defense ..... Actually this is why they still haven’t bombed it.
          1. Retriever
            Retriever 3 May 2013 17: 57
            +1
            Yugoslavia also had outdated anti-aircraft defense but the invisibility was shot down nevertheless. It’s easier for Iran than Yugoslavia they are preparing and preparing attacks, and until the amers ensure air superiority so that they can bomb objects with impunity, they will not begin a ground operation. Yes, of course, they would have an S-300 or an analogue.
        2. Kangarli
          Kangarli April 17 2013 19: 34
          +7
          Quote: Yarbay
          Their air defense is old and in poor condition, I know for sure, they show a lot of fake developments to somehow distract the enemy! The created UAVs do not meet the requirements of the time and are of poor quality! And consider the aircraft no !!


          It turns out you are a weapons expert. And how do you know that UAVs are not high-quality and do not meet the requirements of the time? Maybe you are an IRGC officer? You seem to have forgotten that during the Iran-Iraq war, the Iranians used their UAVs, how they landed enemy quality UAVs that met the requirements of the time, or how their UAVs could go through Israeli air defense and photograph their military objects. No need to say that you know something for sure. I have already seen that you don’t know much.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 35
            +1
            Quote: Kangarli
            Turns out you are a weapons expert

            Yes !
            In Iran, yes !!
            Quote: Kangarli
            go through the Israeli air defense and photograph their military installations.

            Tell these tales in a narrow circle of lovers of Iranian henna!
            Quote: Kangarli
            No need to say that you know something for sure.

            It’s not for you to tell the milkman what and when to speak!
            Quote: Kangarli
            I have already seen that you don’t know much.

            This is your problem and the problem that you believe the stories of your uncle or aunt of your friends!
            1. Kangarli
              Kangarli April 18 2013 09: 19
              +1
              Hp ... you are an expert. :)

              When something you do not like immediately tales. )) http://lenta.ru/news/2012/10/29/irandrone/

              Well, then you have no facts and go straight to the tales of your uncle or aunt. Well, depending on what you write here, it’s clear that you are a skimmer.)
          2. Professor
            Professor April 18 2013 09: 37
            +1
            how their UAVs could get through Israeli air defense and take pictures of their military installations

            Here's how their UAVs could get through Israeli air defense:


            According to Iranian MP Esmail Kovsari, the drone transferred images of a number of Israeli military bases to Iran, and only after that he was shot down. Kovsari added that the images were transmitted in real time.

            As evidence, Esmail Kovsari provided images transmitted to Iran by UAVs through an Iranian communications satellite. laughing
            1. Tourist Breakfast
              Tourist Breakfast April 18 2013 10: 53
              +1
              EMNIP, that UAV in general turned out to be German, once sold to Lebanon.
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 18 2013 11: 24
              -1
              Quote: Professor
              As evidence, Esmail Kovsari provided images transmitted to Iran by UAVs through an Iranian communications satellite.

              Professor yes do not pay attention)))
              This young lover of Iran, a fan of Berdanok and believes only what a man in a turban will say)))))))
              No creative))
              You have no chance to prove something to him))))
              1. Professor
                Professor April 18 2013 11: 32
                0
                Good afternoon,
                I do not prove anything like that, but the discussion is not in PM and I would not want the forum users to have a false impression on the basis of not truth or half truth.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay April 18 2013 11: 53
                  0
                  Good afternoon professor!
                  I agree!!!
                  Although you often sin stubbornness)))))
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 18 2013 11: 54
                    0
                    Although you often sin stubbornness)))))

                    Only in those cases when I understand the topic under discussion. hi
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 18 2013 11: 59
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      Only in those cases when I understand the topic under discussion.

                      Twenty-five again))) hi
                      Sometimes I’m ready to shoot you point blank)))))))
                      You frame !!))
                      You must admit that you often stubborn from the principle, while you understand that the opponent is right?)))

                      with respect !
                      1. Professor
                        Professor April 18 2013 12: 07
                        +1
                        Sometimes I’m ready to shoot you point blank)))))))

                        1. Take a turn.
                        2. I’m on the forum like a splinter in the backyard, and in life I’m white and fluffy.

                        You must admit that you often stubborn from the principle, while you understand that the opponent is right?)))

                        Never. More than once admitted his mistakes (for example, about the Cornet guidance system).
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 18 2013 12: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Never. More than once admitted his mistakes (for example, about the Cornet guidance system).

                        Professor!
                        I saw a dozen of your disputes (since it’s unethical, I’m not talking about our discussions)
                        I have never seen you honestly admit that you are wrong!
                        You start to get out, look for weaknesses in your opponent’s comments !!
                        1. I do not have to queue up!
                        2. maybe you are white, but not fluffy for sure))
                      3. Professor
                        Professor April 18 2013 12: 35
                        +1
                        I have never seen you honestly admit that you are wrong!

                        To vskidku:
                        Cornet EM: a new stage in the development of anti-tank missile systems
                        professor (1) April 1, 2012 21:18
                        I re-read, revised and admit that I was mistaken about the line of sight. Sinful.

                        hi
    3. Don
      Don April 18 2013 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: Yarbay
      Their air defense is old and in poor condition, I know for sure, they show a lot of fake development work to somehow distract the enemy!

      I wonder from where you know this for sure? Do you have spies in Iran? I myself do not really trust everything that they show, but I can’t say with 100% certainty.
      Quote: Yarbay
      And there’s no aviation!

      44 F-14 Tomcat and 35 MiG-29 is it considered no? Plus also the 3rd generation aircraft. When interacting with air defense is not so bad.
  2. Retriever
    Retriever 3 May 2013 18: 02
    0
    These objects are covered in any way with the S-200 and tori. And they are expected to be hit first.
  • Zax
    Zax April 17 2013 10: 01
    +3
    Quote: Tuzik
    exhibit from 3 to 5 thousand aircraft

    A galley addict? The merry EC-130 runs up and presses the command lines, the merry EA-6B runs up and presses the installations, and then the merry F / A-18s run up and HARM'ami uses up all that is left.
    1. Canep
      Canep April 17 2013 10: 45
      +2
      Quote: Zax
      Addict galleries? The hilarious EC-130 runs in and crushes ...

      The downed Iranian air defense is lying on the ground.
      Quote: Zax
      the cheerful EA-6B runs in and crushes ...

      The downed Iranian air defense is lying on the ground.
      Quote: Zax
      and then come on funny F / A-18 and

      The downed Iranian air defenses are lying on the ground.

      But mine is better.
      And don’t forget, the Iranians will be motivated for the most want, in Iraq one grandfather shot down an American helicopter from a gun.
      1. Zax
        Zax April 17 2013 10: 50
        -2
        How will they bring them down? Slingshot galleries?
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 17 2013 13: 12
        0
        Quote: Canep
        And don’t forget, the Iranians will be motivated for the most want, in Iraq one grandfather shot down an American helicopter from a gun.

        This you tell grandmothers on the bench))))))
        Before each amerikom company like you say so)))
        The Iranian population has long been motivated by the most I do not want !!))) only no one will enter Iran!
        Part of the Iranian leadership may well go over to the side of the enemy and part of the population is already fed up with tricks of the clergy, so the locals themselves give them weapons to fight!
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 15: 13
          +2
          Do not be so dismissive of the Iranians, who for so many years, despite the sanctions and harassment from the "democratic community", have been successfully resisting the efforts of amers to destroy Iran. You should not be just as dismissive of the capabilities of the Iranian army, which, in my opinion, is capable of opposing the United States and its sixes. There is, of course, the fifth column and the dissatisfied, but in percentage terms, their number is not able to rock the boat. It is also necessary to take into account the local mentality - in Iran it is not necessary to persuade the local population for a long time to defend the country from external and internal threats. And yet - do not believe so much in the invincibility of the American army. One should not forget about the invincibility of the Russian army. So that's it.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 38
            -2
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Do not be as dismissive of the capabilities of the Iranian army, in my opinion able to withstand the United States and its six

            It will not be able to withstand this fact !!
            As recent US wars have shown how they fight !!
            With the tactics waged by the United States in recent wars, Iran has no chance!
            It's a question of time!
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            . The local mentality must also be taken into account - in Iran one should not persuade the local population for a long time to defend the country from external and internal threats.

            I know the local mentality very well!
            Against large states could not resist even a week !!
            Civil war can be very cruel there!
            1. Vovka levka
              Vovka levka April 18 2013 02: 04
              +1
              Cruel, this is still tenderly said.
      3. BruderV
        BruderV April 17 2013 20: 29
        +3
        Quote: Canep
        The downed Iranian air defense is lying on the ground.

        Hello to all guests from the past. I know you are interested in our world in the distant 2013 of your eighties. You probably still missed the nineties and zero and immediately rushed to study a later period in the future of our country and the whole world, but in vain. You missed two wars in the Persian Gulf and one in Yugoslavia. So, what was defeated in Iraq in the absence of coalition air force losses:

        Before the 1991 war, the Iraqi Air Force was considered one of the strongest in the Middle East. The Air Force included 2 bomber, 13-17 fighter and 22 fighter-bomber and assault squadrons, which were armed with up to 750 fighters, a bomber and an attack aircraft, including:

        75 "Mirage F.1" (in 1981-1990 Iraq received 14 two-seat combat training "Mirage F.1BQ" and 94 single "Mirage F.1EQ", including 38 "Mirage F.1EQ5 / 6-200" equipped for carrying anti-ship missiles AM-39 Exocet and having equipment for refueling in the air)
        208 MiG-21
        123 MiG-23 (some sources mention the MiG-27, although most likely we are talking about the MiG-23BN)
        33 MiG-25
        41 MiG-29
        119 Su-7B / 20/22 (some sources mention the Su-17, but its export versions - Su-20 and Su-22 were used for sale abroad)
        25 Su-24
        61 Su-25
        15-16 bombers (8 Tu-16, including the Chinese N-6D (or B-6D), 8 Tu-22 - all in all, Iraq received 10 Tu-22, 6 Tu-16 and 4 (since 1987) N-6D)

        Iraqi air defense totaled:

        300 air defense systems S-75 and S-125
        114 "Cube"
        80 Wasp
        60 "Strela-10"
        100 "Roland"
        MANPADS "Strela-2", "Strela-3" and "Igla-1"
        7,500 anti-aircraft guns

        Now tell me how Iran’s air defense is better? Or do they have cyborg grandfathers with berdanks, which helicopters stack more in packs?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 39
          +1
          Quote: BruderV
          Now tell me how Iran’s air defense is better? Or do they have cyborg grandfathers with berdanks, which helicopters stack more in packs?

          Bravo!!
          One hundred pluses +++++
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus April 17 2013 23: 43
          +3
          Quote: BruderV
          Now tell me how Iran’s air defense is better? Or do they have cyborg grandfathers with berdanks, which helicopters stack more in packs?

          They have stronger RTVs. There are Torahs at close range. Fighter aircraft are weaker.
          But Iran’s main strength is not air defense. They have enough other trump cards.
        3. 101
          101 April 18 2013 00: 09
          0
          Quote: BruderV
          Now tell me how Iran’s air defense is better? Or do they have cyborg grandfathers with berdanks, which helicopters stack more in packs?

          Of course, with the fact that they are better motivated, they will not run but they will steadfastly resist the missiles arriving from some unknown place. Maybe even these missiles will be needed more. But surely there will be no one to show bayonet and shooting training skills Well, maybe amers will make a couple of pictures from the satellite
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka April 18 2013 02: 06
            0
            You are mistaken.
          2. OTAKE
            OTAKE April 18 2013 07: 24
            +1
            One motivation, pitchfork, and Allah Okbar cannot be trampled on a tomahawk, they would be friends more closely with Pakistan and China, then there is a chance to settle themselves, and so, they will sweep
        4. Rider
          Rider April 18 2013 01: 32
          +1
          Hello to all guests from the past.

          and you don’t get sick, a guest from an alternate reality.

          So that was defeated in Iraq in the absence of losses of the coalition air force ...


          I don’t understand that very hotstsa
          show the Yankees cool warriors, but really not a nada.

          so Iraq 1
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      4. BruderV
        BruderV April 17 2013 20: 36
        -3
        Quote: Canep
        in Iraq, one grandfather shot down an American helicopter from a gun

        So in Vietnam, partisans in general, Phantoms, were squadroned down with rifles. And why the heck did we send air defense systems there?
        And these grandfathers were unlucky to bring down Apache, the black cat must have crossed the road.
        1. Rider
          Rider April 18 2013 01: 39
          0
          And these grandfathers were unlucky to bring down Apache, the black cat must have crossed the road.


          but it was lucky

          http://photo.i.ua/user/2668680/170457/5948427/
      5. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka April 18 2013 02: 03
        0
        In the East, the most important trade. The issue of price.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 18 2013 11: 19
          0
          Quote: Vovka Levka
          In the East, the most important trade. Price issue

          it will be more difficult to bargain with him !! It will be necessary to demoralize first, and then bargain!
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka April 18 2013 22: 43
            0
            There is no doubt.
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg April 17 2013 10: 49
    +1
    Quote: Tuzik
    if there will be aggression from NATO,


    Then Israel ceases to exist on which the war ends. It ceases simply because it is the only hostile state located nearby and which has the benefit of such aggression.
    1. Tourist Breakfast
      Tourist Breakfast April 17 2013 11: 18
      +1
      Israel is not so close to Iran. Here Azerbaijan, for example, is much closer.

      .A group of Iranian lawyers has begun revising the provisions of the Turkmanchay Treaty of 1828, which ended the Russian-Persian war of 1826-1828. The famous classic of Russian literature Alexander Griboedov was directly related to this event. According to the terms of the agreement, Russia retained territories acquired under the terms of the Gulistan Peace Treaty of 1813 after the end of the Russian-Persian war of 1804-1813. Persia also agreed to the emigration of the Armenian population within the Russian Empire, and to the presence of the Russian fleet in the Caspian.

      Now Iranian international lawyers argue that the terms of the contract were valid only for 100 years. Since the Azerbaijani lands belonged earlier to Persia, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, which did not return the lost region to the former "owners", it was supposed to become part of Iran, but in violation of the norms of the Turkmanchay Treaty, became an independent state (1). The transfer of Azerbaijan to Tehran should be carried out in the same way as the transfer by Britain of sovereignty over Hong Kong to China in 1997 (2).
      Etc.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 17 2013 13: 13
        -4
        Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
        ..A group of Iranian lawyers has begun revising the provisions of the Turkmanchay Treaty of 1828, which completed the Russian-Persian war of 1826-1828.

        And what will this give Iran?)))
        Guaranteed to receive on the head from around the world, primarily from Russia)))
        1. Tourist Breakfast
          Tourist Breakfast April 17 2013 15: 22
          0
          Well, the ayatolam somehow need their own population, in which this Islamic revolution is already sitting in the liver, to keep subordinate. Therefore, they actively create enemies in all directions, ambitions cherish again.
        2. Kangarli
          Kangarli April 17 2013 19: 12
          +6
          Exxx Yarbay you sometimes write such things that I don’t even know what to write to you. A very excellent response to our politicians. When our deputy says that he will be the speaker of the parliament of South Azerbaijan, this is normal in your opinion, and when the Iranian deputies are considering the agreement, this is ridiculous. If you have not noticed then over the past 20 years we get this on the head. Why should Russia intervene in our problems with Iran? If you forget, I will tell you that we have long been no longer part of Russia. From the day of the creation of the Islamic Republic, the rest of the world has been trying to give on the head but without success.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 45
            -4
            Quote: Kangarli
            Exxx Yarbay you sometimes write such things that I don’t even know what to write to you.

            Do not know do not write))))
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 47
            -4
            Quote: Kangarli
            When our deputy says that he will be the speaker of the parliament of South Azerbaijan, this is normal in your opinion, and when the Iranian deputies are considering the agreement, this is ridiculous.

            And where did he say this, give a link !!)))
            Quote: Kangarli
            Why should Russia intervene in our problems with Iran?

            Yes, we don’t need to open the womb to the Iranians!
            The problem is that my young friend is a treaty between Iran and Russia !!
            And Iran lick up and will not receive a centimeter of our territory!
            Quote: Kangarli
            From the day of the creation of the Islamic Republic, the world has been trying to give the rest on the head but without success.

            Everything has its time !! They will begin to cajole on us and get ass on the head)))
            1. Kangarli
              Kangarli April 18 2013 10: 28
              +1
              Siyavuş Novruzov and Mənsur Həqiqətpur google to help you.

              Quote: Yarbay
              The problem is that my young friend is a treaty between Iran and Russia !!

              I see your knowledge in politics and history is the same ........ as in military technology. You may not have noticed, but the royal empire is gone. More than 20 years ago, Azerbaijan declared itself a free republic, and because of this, Russia will not and cannot interfere in our affairs + we are not in the CSTO. Every day I am more and more convinced that you are not who you pretend to be. Only a young "patriot" could have believed that Iran seriously wanted to revise the treaty. This is a response to our politicians who are talking day and night about South Azerbaijan, trying to distract the people from the Karabakh conflict (as it can be seen).

              Quote: Yarbay
              Yes, we don’t need to open the womb to the Iranians!

              20 years we can’t return our lands now against Iran we decided to go. fellow How do you stop Iran if all our main forces are in the western direction? Iran will have enough 3 days to take Baku or the explosion of several oil wells and all. Finally, a riot in the southern region. These are all options, none of this will be. If Velayati will be the president (he has a lot of things for our government wink ) relations normalize.

              Because of people like you ("patriots") in 90, we spoiled relations with Russia and Iran and lost our lands. Most importantly, if you write a milk sucker or something like that, you will get the same answer.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 18 2013 11: 08
                -4
                Quote: Kangarli
                Only a young "patriot" could have believed that Iran seriously wanted to revise the treaty.
                By the way, you didn’t give the link, one star))
                Only lovers of Iranian henna and the howling of Iranian mules can even seriously take Siyavush’s speech, it was precisely in response to the statement made by cheap Iranian parliamentarians !!
                I do not care who in Iran will be the President!
                Iranian top from top to bottom corrupt!
                The faster they are gouged, the better for world peace!
                And moreover, the young Iranian patriot of the CSTO, Tsarist Russia!
                Go go to school first, then go read books, study literature, try to be away from Iranian liars and obscurantists !!
                my young servant of Iran, find yourself a more worthy master!
                1. Kangarli
                  Kangarli April 18 2013 12: 40
                  -1
                  Don't know what google is? laughing

                  And the fact that Siyavush can’t open his mouth without permission doesn’t tell you anything?

                  Yes, you still have amnesia. You yourself write what Russia will give to the head on Iran because he signed the agreement. The agreement was signed not by the Russian Federation but by the enchantment empire. Russia will not create problems with Iran because of a country that itself does not know whom it supports. If we were in the CSTO, then another matter. So has it come up or do you have a place for blood brake fluid? Will you stop making a fool of yourself, or aren't you pretending to be? laughing

                  When I graduated from university, you walked under the table, so do not be smart and disorientated as an expert. I’ve never been to Iran in my life, I don’t have any familiar Iranians, I’m not a Muslim fanatic, but, unlike you, I don’t have nationalism. I knew that you won’t write anything smart, but you’ll try to humiliate me. I know this because all of you nationalists say the same thing when the words end (you serve Iran, you work for their intelligence.). Each time the same thing. Be creative come up with new nonsense (you do it perfectly). Regarding Iran’s help, you also tried to be smart even as you called an eyewitness to these events, but then you turned on the reverse gear. You are a nationalist and the conversation with you ends the same way (you serve Iran, you work for their intelligence.). laughing
        3. Rider
          Rider April 18 2013 01: 42
          +3
          Guaranteed to receive on the head from around the world, primarily from Russia)))


          !!! ?????????????????????

          Well, no, dear comrades.
          you really want to do it yourself.
          she’s independence of this, as Beh hints.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 17 2013 13: 41
        -7
        Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
        Iranian international lawyers now claim

        By the way, I also think that the power in Iran is illegal and it must be transferred to the descendants of the Qajar dynasty))))))
  • Nomad
    Nomad April 17 2013 10: 32
    +7
    Quote: Tuzik
    if there will be aggression on the part of NATO, then they will iron out all the air defense elementary, they will set up from 3 to 5 thousand

    They barely scraped a hundred to Libya ... And in the UK, rockets ended in a week.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 17 2013 11: 56
      -1
      They barely scraped a hundred to Libya ... And in the UK, rockets ended in a week.

      Libya itself ended earlier than NATO’s missiles, and as it turned out hundreds of aircraft were abundant.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 April 17 2013 15: 06
        +7
        Libyan army can not be compared with Iran. The colonel too believed in his own diplomatic genius. But any diplomatic genius should be backed up by strong air defense, and preferably even several hundred nuclear warheads.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 17 2013 15: 18
          -2
          Libyan army can not be compared with Iran.

          But the forces against it, if necessary, will be used not by those in Libya.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 17 2013 17: 02
            +3
            Well, give the layout. The layout for Iran is given. I understand that you are from the camp of their opponents. You and cards in hand.
  • Bongo
    Bongo April 17 2013 12: 32
    +9
    For some reason, not a word about Iranian radars, but they are not bad enough. Russian "Defense" and "Sky-SVU", as well as Chinese JY-14. In addition, the S-200V has never been the basis of Iran's air defense, it is a "long arm" and nothing more ...
    The DRLO aircraft, is really available but not on the basis of Boeing-707, served as the basis for IL-76, most likely it is a former Iraqi. There are other inaccuracies in the article ...
    Article on this topic: http://my.mail.ru/community/miravia/37DD6CEA2648DB57.html
  • Zlaya makaka
    Zlaya makaka April 17 2013 14: 46
    +1
    Is Iran a step away from a step away from modern requirements that will make any air attack on a country very dangerous and ineffective? Author is this serious?

    Guys, in the USA they are very good at crushing powerful air defense - they have been training since the Second World War. And they can even break through the defense of the S-300 to which Iran still has to grow and grow. Let's not forget that after the collapse of the USSR, the Americans managed to get almost all of the Soviet air defense systems, including the S-300 (sold by Belarusians with the permission of the Russian Federation) and the S-300V (the Russians themselves sold). In addition, not so long ago, one of the S-300 design engineers who permanently took part in the creation of the new S-400 complex went to the United States for permanent residence. According to available information, the ex-designer is now working hard in one of the Pentagon's design bureaus, studying the search for counteraction of the S-400.

    Plus, let's recall that quite modern air defense was used against the aviation of the Russian Federation during the war with Georgia, and the data with the results of this application also went to the United States.

    Bottom line: Iran DOES NOT have modern systems (S-200 and export "Torahs" somehow do not really pull on modern ones), and those complexes that they are only GOING to put into service are approximately at the level of the S-300. And the fact that even with the breakthrough of the air defense on the S-300 the United States will not have any special problems, I think, is already clear from what I have written above.
    1. Maximus
      Maximus April 17 2013 15: 19
      +2
      And in Serbia, "invisible", shot down with a slingshot?
      1. Professor
        Professor April 17 2013 15: 25
        0
        And in Serbia, "invisible", shot down with a slingshot?

        The whole ondogo invisibility? And how many unpunished sorties did they make there?
      2. Zlaya makaka
        Zlaya makaka April 17 2013 16: 04
        -2
        Quote: Maximus
        And in Serbia, "invisible", shot down with a slingshot?


        Firstly, the F-117s have long been decommissioned back in April 2008 and are no longer in the US Air Force. Secondly his by eye contact shot down the Serbian MiG-29 piloted by Lieutenant Colonel Gvozden Dukic (according to some sources, the pseudonym Zoltan Dani), and not the S-125.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus April 17 2013 17: 57
          +5
          Quote: Zlaya Makaka
          Secondly, he was hit by eye contact with a Serbian MiG-29 piloted by Colonel Gvozden Dukic (according to some sources, the pseudonym Zoltan Dani), and not the S-125.

          S-125 shot him down. And Mig-29 9-12, by the way, is in Iran.
    2. ATATA
      ATATA April 17 2013 15: 37
      +4
      Quote: Zlaya Makaka
      And the fact that even with the breakthrough of anti-aircraft defense on the S-300 the United States will not have special problems, I think it is already clear from what I wrote above.

      But what did they object to supplying the S-300 to Iran?
      1. Zlaya makaka
        Zlaya makaka April 17 2013 16: 00
        -2
        Quote: ATATA
        But what did they object to supplying the S-300 to Iran?


        They objected because at about the time Israel wanted to bomb Iran, and it probably would not have the strength and resources to confidently and painlessly break through such an air defense.
        1. rolik
          rolik April 17 2013 21: 59
          +1
          Quote: Zlaya Makaka
          They objected because at about the time Israel wanted to bomb in Iran,

          Complete turbidity. Now at Israel, once again, they blasted rockets. Now the Israelis are coming up with versions of why their "Iron Caput" and the warning system, which turned on just before the explosion of the last rocket, did not work.
    3. rolik
      rolik April 17 2013 21: 58
      +1
      Quote: Zlaya Makaka
      Plus, let's recall that quite modern air defense was used against Russian aviation during the war with Georgia

      Here are just air defense was Russian-made, those of which shot down several aircraft.
      About the breakthrough C300. In Yugoslavia, the Amers had infa about the approximate zone of the C300 located there. So this place they flew around. And another question about a powerful air defense system. Tell me, which of those whom the heap is small together with the mattress bombed had a powerful air defense system? Even in Vietnam, mattresses were pressed in the ass with air defense of not the largest number. It all depends on who controls the air defense. If a monkey sits there, then this is a predetermined kirdyk, if a good special, mattresses will never tuck in this direction. Because their point is not at all iron.
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 April 17 2013 16: 03
    +3
    If the United States and or Israel decide to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities, the existing air defense systems are unlikely to help Iran protect these facilities. Iran’s only hope is that these objects are hidden deep underground and you won’t get them with any bomb.
    As for air defense systems, neither the United States nor Israel will begin to strike at the above nuclear facilities without neutralizing the corresponding air defense systems or reducing their effectiveness to an acceptable level of losses for the attacking side. And both the United States and Isaille learned to do this quite well during previous campaigns, for example, in Yugoslavia, Iraq, etc., including through direct bribery of those who are supposed to operate these air defense systems. Well, do not forget that the main secrets of all the main air defense systems in service with Iran have long been no secret for its potential (so far) opponents. And even if Russia were to supply Iran with C300, it would not significantly change anything, since Back in 92, the same Russia sold through Belarus 2 sets of С300 PMUs to the same USA. It should not be forgotten that both the United States and its allies have long since learned to embed "dormant bugs" into weapons systems exported (including to Russia). So many of the problems associated with the suppression of Iran's air defense systems were resolved long before .... and without "noise and dust", but for simple green money, wooden rubles and other hard and soft currency
  • awg75
    awg75 April 17 2013 16: 15
    +2
    the devils on a motorcycle with an arrow look especially frightening .... horror !!! ...... it was necessary to put on a donkey, it would be even worse ...
    1. Tourist Breakfast
      Tourist Breakfast April 17 2013 17: 38
      +2
      Iranians are epic!
      1. rolik
        rolik April 17 2013 22: 00
        0
        Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
        Iranians are epic!

        Although, to be honest, the Arabs are small fighters. Even marshals and generals in the USSR talked about this.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 52
          -3
          Quote: rolik

          Although, to be honest, the Arabs are small fighters. Even marshals and generals in the USSR talked about this.

          and than the Iranians are more warriors)))) ??
      2. phantom359
        phantom359 April 17 2013 23: 42
        +3
        Quote: Tourist Breakfast
        Iranians are epic!

        What about the British? Iranians do not legitimize same-sex marriage and do not allow perverts to take care of children, already in this they will be better.)))
        1. Tourist Breakfast
          Tourist Breakfast April 18 2013 11: 28
          -1
          Yeah. I remember theirs Nejad once said that in Iran they say "there are no homosexuals at all." smile

          By the way, purely hypothetically - if suddenly (God forbid) it turned out that your son or brother is gay, where would you prefer him to live - in a "gay rop" or in Iran?
          1. phantom359
            phantom359 April 20 2013 00: 52
            0
            I would rather not live at all. I do not like pi ,,,, owls And your beloved geyropa itself will drown with its excrement. Little by little, everything goes to this - same-sex marriage, tribadism, incest and other perversions.
            1. Tourist Breakfast
              Tourist Breakfast April 20 2013 21: 07
              -1
              I would rather not live at all.


              What do you mean did not live? Kill your own son yourself? You are not aware that a certain percentage of people are born with this?

              And your beloved geyropa itself will drown with its excrement.


              Well extremes they always are not good, neither this way nor the other.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus April 17 2013 17: 54
    0
    The article is not bad, but the best open review of Iraqi air defense was, of course, given in the "widely known in narrow circles" LiveJournal of Yuri Lyamin.
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas April 17 2013 20: 00
    0
    Iran has virtually no aviation, or rather, that which does not pose any danger. And without aviation, no ground air defense can protect the country from defeat. At least put the S-400 in a kilometer ...
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus April 17 2013 23: 45
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      Iran has practically no aviation, or rather, that which is not dangerous

      Well, a couple of dozen F-14 and Mig-29 still have wink
      But in general, fighters are, of course, not their forte.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 52
      -1
      Quote: Nayhas
      Iran has virtually no aviation, or rather, that which does not pose any danger. And without aviation, no ground air defense can protect the country from defeat. At least put the S-400 in a kilometer.

      1000 pluses ++++++
  • a jacket
    a jacket April 17 2013 20: 20
    0
    Quote: Yarbay
    The Iranian population has long been motivated by the most I do not want !!))) only no one will enter Iran!
    Part of the Iranian leadership may well go over to the side of the enemy and part of the population is already fed up with tricks of the clergy, so the locals themselves give them weapons to fight!

    According to the testimonies of people there (and our organization cooperates with Iran very closely), Iran is far from united in hatred of the States. T.N. the elite openly talks about how it will live well if Iran becomes an ally of the United States. Many are sure that it is necessary to be friends with the states. Especially young people. Alcohol drink Toko so. True encrypted. To have something from the American production (clothes, cars, etc.) is considered fashionable. In general, everything is complicated there.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 55
      -1
      Quote: jacket
      According to the testimonies of people there (and our organization cooperates with Iran very closely) Iran is far from united in hatred of the States

      I go there very often!
      They don’t like America, but that doesn’t mean that they love the mullah !!
      If possible, half of the population will fight against them!
      Azerbaijanis in the south, Kurds in the north, there is also an influential Mujahideen-e-Halg organization, which has tens of thousands of supporters !!
      If you arm them and create a no-fly zone above them, they will plunge Iran into a long bloody war !!
    2. Tourist Breakfast
      Tourist Breakfast April 18 2013 11: 36
      -1
      Iran strongly resembles the USSR of the eighties, when no one believed in the building of communism, and the people chased after American jeans and records with rock music.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 18 2013 19: 40
        0
        Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
        Iran strongly resembles the USSR of the eighties, when no one believed in the building of communism, and the people chased after American jeans and records with rock music.

        Not really, but something similar !!
  • Volkhov
    Volkhov April 17 2013 21: 00
    0
    And why did the US not bomb Iran in 79 after the hostage-taking - there was a reason, there was no air defense ...
    Maybe there is a factor that cancels the bombing?
    1. vadson
      vadson April 17 2013 22: 12
      +2
      Quote: Volkhov
      And why did the US not bomb Iran in 79 after the hostage-taking - there was a reason, there was no air defense ...
      Maybe there is a factor that cancels the bombing?

      Of course there is, their strait along which oil is being transported, I would generally give a flurry of torpedoes to Iran instead of a nuclear cudgel, as a result, not a single Amer vessel will go into the strait anymore, and the geyropa will be much more accommodating
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 17 2013 23: 56
      0
      Quote: Volkhov
      And why did the US not bomb Iran in 79 after the hostage-taking - there was a reason, there was no air defense ...

      Then there was the USSR !!
  • Selevc
    Selevc April 17 2013 22: 16
    +5
    No matter how scolded Iran, it still has the courage to turn the big Dulu to the West !!!
    And if it comes to war - let's see how it turns out just to defeat this country !!! There are a lot of capricious moods ... But after all, bobmezhka is not a victory and the main thing no bombing of Iran solves the strategic objectives of the war - the exclusion of Iran from the nuclear weapons program !!!
    Yes, even if the United States suppresses Iran’s air defense, and in exchange dozens of terrorist attacks on its territory, they don’t want to receive? And how do you like the dirty bomb explosion somewhere in a large Amer city? September 11th, they still seem like flowers !!!

    There is no need to fight with America - internal tensions are growing at a global pace in this country - in a few years there they will cut each other's throats - as they will see a tororist in every passerby and a bomb in every empty box !!!

    They have generated too much hatred all over the world, and even within their own country, and the response wave is already rising !!!
  • Sars
    Sars April 18 2013 05: 27
    +3
    As soon as the Iranian theme begins, a "group of comrades" (experts) pops up, with evidence that Iran is a primitive communal state, and the Iranian army is armed with sticks and stones.
    It would be so - Jews and Amers have long torn Iran to pieces. And so they just drag it, and draw red lines.
    1. Tourist Breakfast
      Tourist Breakfast April 18 2013 11: 42
      +1
      It would be so - Jews and Amers have long torn Iran to pieces. And so they just drag it, and draw red lines.


      "We will definitely bang! And more than once! The whole world is in dust! ... But then." (C)

      Seriously, now the Americans are not up to Iran, and Israel alone is unlikely to pull such an operation. Far too painful.
  • Rinatgoi
    Rinatgoi April 21 2013 13: 18
    0
    All the same, the United States is not yet ready to attack Iran. Coalition forces will be created, of course, the United States and England will play the main roles.
  • zbidnev
    zbidnev April 28 2013 23: 11
    +1
    An interesting analysis of the possibilities of the state and the people turned out to be a possible adversary and sympathizer for them (I mean comments). The principle of striking at enemy air defense is a complete surprise. Our Western invaders adopted it from the fascist German generals (the so-called blitzkrieg). Only a fairly organized air defense system can disrupt these activities. Evaluate its effectiveness is possible only in direct hostilities. Therefore, assessments such as the United States or Israel will tear Iran’s air defense not professional. If they could, they would have already torn. The United States does not want and cannot get involved in long-term military operations, they have already gotten involved everywhere. Amer’s withdrawal of his forces from Afghanistan also indicates this; they and Israel are in every possible way holding back from this adventure. In addition, the states have no allies but only interests, which Israel is convinced of every year.