Tomahawk - a new problem or not?

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Tomahawk - a new problem or not?

In my lifetime, this is not the first or second coming of the "Axe", around which noise and hubbub begin. And if forty years ago the word "Tomahawk", applicable to the winged rocket, evoked very peculiar feelings, then over time the brightness faded. Radars became more selective, anti-missiles smarter and more accurate, and most importantly - faster and less expensive.

And the "Axe"... Well, it's a classic on par with the AKM, T-72 and B-52. So let's pay tribute by going through its difficult path, and then analyze how much of a threat this missile poses to us today.




History


The distant year of 1972. At that time, the US (apparently they had cross-pollinated with Khrushchev) had impressive land- and submarine-based missiles, the Titan, Atlas, and Minuteman. But for some reason, they didn’t pay due attention to cruise missiles, as if they would destroy the whole world anyway.

However, the USSR had a different point of view, and therefore, when the Union developed such products as Termit, Bazalt and Metel, overseas they realized that they urgently needed to catch up.

Moreover, the power of Soviet cruise missiles was demonstrated by the Indians during the Third Indo-Pakistani War in 1971.


Then, during Operation Trident, three Indian missile boats of Soviet design (Project 206 Moskit) wreaked havoc on Pakistani the fleet in Karachi, sinking two destroyers and a minesweeper of the Pakistan Navy and annihilating a transport with ammunition. The remaining missiles (2 of 12) were sent to the port structure, causing large fires at the local oil storage facility. Three days later, the attack on Karachi was repeated by one boat, 4 missiles of which created a real Gomorrah: two tankers were sunk (Panamanian and Pakistani), and the tanker from Panama detonated and damaged 2 more ships, a British dry cargo ship was sunk and as a result, 12 of the 34 port oil storage facilities burned. The port was extinguished for a week.


In general, the effectiveness of Soviet cruise missiles turned out to be off the charts.

Therefore, in the same year of 1971, very urgently and secretly, the leadership of the US Navy initiated work on the creation of a strategic cruise missile with an underwater launch.

Two options were considered: a heavy cruise missile with an underwater launch from ballistic missile silos and a flight range of over 5 km, and a lighter option, launched from 000-mm torpedo tubes and with a range of up to 533 km.

The second option won because there were not enough carriers for the first: five George Washington-class submarines and five Etienne Allen-class submarines, which were already being decommissioned by that time. And a missile that could be launched from the torpedo tube of almost any submarine - this was more to the liking of the US Navy admirals. And June 2, 1972 can safely be considered the birthday of the Tomahawk.

The missiles were launched through torpedo tubes of submarines with a caliber of 533 mm or more and from surface ships from inclined launchers of the ABL type (Mk 143) and vertical launch installations Mk 41 (some types of nuclear submarines are also equipped with these vertical launch installations).


The BGM-109G missiles were launched from ground-based TEL launch containers, but following the conclusion of the 1987 Treaty between the USSR and the USA on the Elimination of Medium- and Short-Range Missiles, they were removed from service and destroyed by 1991.


This is in response to the fact that (as some optimists claim) the Tomahawk is a purely sea-based missile. In reality, the Topor is a completely universal thing and it doesn't care at all where it launches from.

Tomahawk BGM-109 is available in two modifications:
- tactical, which is designed to deliver missile strikes against surface ships;
- strategic for the destruction of ground targets.


The flight characteristics and design of the missiles of both models are identical, and the only difference between them is that they have different warheads.

The missile's warhead weighs 340 kg. The number of warhead variants is quite diverse: cluster, semi-armor-piercing, high-explosive, high-explosive fragmentation, penetrating, and so on.

W80. Nuclear warhead with a yield of 5 to 200 kilotons.

W84. Nuclear warhead with a yield of 5 to 150 kilotons.

WDU-25/B. Semi-armor-piercing warhead, also used on the AGM-12 Bullpup missile.

WDU-36/B. High-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 340 kg.

Cassette. 166 combined-action combat elements BLU-97/B CEB, 1,5 kg each, in 24 cassettes.

WDU-43/B. Penetrating/concrete-piercing warhead

The "Axe" can attack according to several algorithms: with a steep dive, with an explosion while flying over the target horizontally, and simply sticking in from a horizontal flight. This complicates counteraction to the enemy and makes it easier to hit each specific target.


When moving towards a target, the Tomahawk flies at the maximum permissible low altitude, following the terrain, so until recently it was very difficult for ground-based radar detection systems to spot the missile. Also, the BGM-109's "invisibility" is aided by its streamlined shape, devoid of protruding elements and radio-contrasting details.

However, today radars and their crews, willy-nilly, have learned to look “under themselves”, as the current situation with the use of UAVs required. UAVs- Kamikazes have an even smaller signature and heat trace than cruise missiles, and also fly at very low altitudes, which makes them very difficult to detect. However, new times have given rise to new combat techniques, such as the multi-altitude placement of air defense missile systems, when one is placed 20-30 meters higher than the other and "looks" in the "forward-downward" direction, tracking drones flying at low altitudes.

By the way, where it is not possible to place the SAM system in the natural folds of the terrain, in some areas they simply piled up huge mountains of sand and drove the Pantsirs or Tors on top. Sorry, I will not provide a photo for obvious reasons, but in our region this is quite common. And, considering that in three years the Ukrainian Armed Forces have achieved practically no great success in our region, the scheme works.

However, the "Axe" has its own trump card: TERCOM. The system, which was already on the first modification of the missile, Terrain Contour Matching is a relief-metric type guidance system that "leads" the missile in an autonomous mode and does not need outside control. Accordingly, in this position it is useless to influence the missile by means EW, with the possible exception of the "Krasukha", which under certain conditions can simply burn out all the electronics. If the radio altimeter readings start to "goof", then the rocket will go according to the barometric altimeter readings, which cannot be jammed.

The Tomahawk currently has several systems used for guidance that make up TAINS, the Targeting Inertial Radar Correlated Guidance System.

1. The already mentioned AN/DPW-23 TERCOM relief measurement system. In flight, the missile scans the terrain with its sensors and a radio altimeter along the course and compares it with the information stored in the missile database. This allows it to move at a low altitude, skirting the folds of the terrain and, most importantly, gives the missile greater autonomy and reduces the enemy's chances of knocking the missile off course.

The only drawback of TERCOM is that this system is not very effective on relatively flat terrain: steppes, deserts, tundra, etc., where optical sensors have nothing to "catch on to". But here other systems come to the rescue.

2. P-1000/RPU. An inertial guidance system consisting of its own computer, a barometric altimeter, and an inertial platform consisting of three laser gyroscopes for measuring the angular deviations of the missile and three accelerometers for determining the accelerations of deviations along three axes.

The latest modifications of the missiles use an inertial guidance system, which uses a fiber optic gyroscope.

Pure mathematics: the rocket's onboard computer simply calculates the entire path according to the data, then compares it with the maps and in the required area transfers control to more precise systems.

3. DSMAC optical-electronic system. It was created and applied in 1986 and has undergone a number of upgrades to date. DSMAC (Digital Scene Matching Area Correlator) is a system of electronic-optical correlation of the missile flight trajectory, based on data from a digital camera. This subsystem starts working at the final stage of the flight after the last correction according to TAINS and operates as follows: the camera takes pictures of the terrain, and then the computer compares them with the reference pictures in its memory. And depending on the degree of coincidence, a correction is made.

In the 90s, DSMAC was radically modernized; the system received a xenon flash for operation in poor weather conditions, and the camera became a thermal imaging camera.

4. NAVSTAR, 5-channel satellite navigation receiver. Everything is clear here, where there is no electronic warfare, the route correction can be made using satellite signals.

When the Tomahawk approaches the target area, after all the corrections made by the previous systems, the final trajectory guidance systems come into play.

AN/DSQ-28. An active radar homing head operating at frequencies of 10-20 GHz. The same homing head is currently used on the Harpoon anti-ship missile, which once again confirms its capabilities and effectiveness.

Digital map correction systems have undergone a considerable improvement: first there was the AN/DXQ-1 optical-electronic system, which was replaced by the DSMAC IIA, and the latest modifications of missiles are equipped with the DSMAC IV.

These systems provide a very decent CEP, 5-10 meters during a flight of 1 km. The only question is the number of the most detailed digital maps of the area over which the missile will fly. But this is no longer a question for the missile itself, but for the relevant special services, which must ensure the filming.

And in 2004, the US Army received a modification of the Tactical Tomahawk. This missile stands out from its predecessors with a couple of innovations: the ability to cover distances of up to 2 km and retarget at any of the targets programmed into its program right during the flight.


This became possible due to the command guidance of the missile to the target by using a television subsystem. With telecontrol, the operator observes the target until it is hit using a camera in the nose of the missile and adjusts the flight trajectory by manually aligning the target image with the missile's aiming mark. If during the missile's flight it is discovered that the target assigned to it for hitting has been destroyed by other means of destruction, then according to the operator's commands the missile will be re-aimed at other coordinates.

Of course, all this only works if there is a stable communication channel. Nowadays, it is not difficult to organize this via satellites, but once one person has organized it, another will find a way to block this channel.

Just a few words about homing heads and their development prospects


The homing heads are used in the final part of the missile's flight, for the most accurate and effective target destruction. To date, quite a lot of different homing heads have been developed: thermal imaging, television, light-contrast, infrared and laser. By the method of guidance - homing or telecontrol.

But there are also more modern systems: combined or complex homing heads, which are built on the basis of a set of radar and non-radar (magnetometric, television, inertial, etc.) sensors. It is these systems that provide high accuracy of destruction coupled with a minimum CEP, which can reach 3 meters.

From this we can conclude that the further direction of modernization of cruise missiles, including the descendants of the Tomahawk, will be associated with the creation of high-precision and interference-resistant electronic equipment that ensures reliable reception of flight correction signals and control commands.

And we will remember this conclusion and return to it when we talk about methods of countering Tomahawks.

Now it is worth evaluating those modifications of the “Axe” that could suddenly hypothetically (yes, that’s right) end up there, with our opponents, in Ukraine.


RGM/UGM-109A. This is a pioneer, so to speak. The original modification with an inertial control system with a TERCOM correction system. A W-80 nuclear warhead with a warhead yield of 5 to 200 kilotons. The missile's range exceeded 2500 km. It was intended for placement on surface ships (RGM) in ABL launchers, and on submarines (UGM modification), for launch through a standard 533-mm torpedo tube. This cannot end up in Ukraine under any circumstances.

RGM/UGM-109B Tomahawk Anti-Ship Missile/TASM. A conventional anti-ship missile. Structurally, it is a Tomahawk, on which the TERCOM system, useless when flying over the sea, was replaced by the ARGSN of the Harpoon anti-ship missile. And the result is a missile with a very decent range (450 km), carrying a semi-armor-piercing warhead weighing 450 kg. Ukraine will not get this either, because there are no carriers for it.

RGM/UGM-109C Tomahawk (TLAM-C). This is a non-nuclear missile for hitting targets on land. Since the high-explosive part was much heavier than the nuclear part, the flight range dropped to 1 km. It was here that the AN/DXQ-600 DSMAC optical-electronic target recognition system first appeared.

RGM/UGM-109D. Modification with a cluster warhead, including 166 BLU-97/B CEB submunitions. This is a missile for hitting large area targets such as railway junctions and airfields. It had the shortest flight range of 870 km due to the very large and heavy warhead.

RGM/UGM-109E Tactical Tomahawk. Tactical support missile for troops. Cheaper due to the use of lighter materials and a cheaper Williams F415-WR-400/402 engine. It was here that the option of retargeting the missile to another object from the target list appeared, a satellite TV camera, which allows the operator to assess the state of the target as the missile approaches it and decide whether to continue the attack or retarget.

And these are sea-based missiles. Do they pose a threat to Russia? Purely theoretically. Yes, the US has a lot of carriers. 61 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers (can carry 56 missiles), 3 or 4 Ticonderoga-class cruisers (64 missiles each), 4 Ohio-class nuclear submarines (154 missiles each) – in general, there are no problems with where the Americans can launch Tomahawks at someone. The question is who, and how this someone will react to this in terms of interception and destruction, because one missile costs an average of $1,45 million. Yes, the US stockpiles of all modifications of Tomahawks are estimated at at least 5 thousand pieces, but…

Whatever happens, Kyiv will not get these missiles simply because they will have to be supplied with ships. And the Europeans cannot afford such luxury. Well, Trump can only give Zele a handkerchief for free, nothing more. The rest is for money.

But Tomahawks are usually spoken of as surface- and submarine-launched missiles. There were attempts to launch them from an aircraft, but that's a completely different matter, because the AGM-109 TALCM (Tomahawk Air-Launched Cruise Missile), a version of the BGM-109A modified for aerial launch from a bomber aircraft, passed some of the tests, but ultimately lost the competition to the Boeing AGM-86 ALCM. The missile turned out to be too heavy, so the B-52H and F-111 were planned as carriers, which are no longer relevant as carriers.


But there are also land-based launchers, and there are mobile ones, which were developed in the interests of the Marine Corps. This entire range is created on the basis of the same vertical launch system Mk.41, and it is truly universal to the point of outrageousness. It practically does not care what it is installed on: a ship, a pontoon, a truck...

In general, the Americans have long wanted to adapt something like this for launching the "Axes" from a closer distance, but somehow they never had the time. And so, in 2019, at the test site located on San Nicolas Island, the first tests of launching the "Tomahawk" in the land-based version took place.


It seems that according to the final statements, the tests were successful, the missile hit the target at a distance of 500 km. The highlight was that for the first time, the Tomahawk was launched from a mobile ground platform. That is, without much ado, American engineers screwed one element of the Mk.41 onto a car semi-trailer. A very innovative solution, but what is, is. But it worked.


Well, the missiles were also redesigned to fit this theme.


BGM-109G Gryphon. This is a nuclear BGM-109A in a land-based version. There were no design differences, except for the use of a new W-84 thermonuclear warhead with a variable yield from 0,2 to 150 kilotons. The missile's range was about 2 km.

BGM-109 LRFL Typhoon/Tomahawk Block V. This product was demonstrated in 2023 and was a launcher for one missile based on the Oshkosh L-ATV 4 x 4 vehicle. These installations, although considered experimental, are already in full use by the US Army. The missile is capable of delivering a high-explosive or high-explosive warhead to a distance of 1 km. Yes, one vehicle of this brand can only carry one missile, but Oshkosh L-ATV has already stamped out more than 600 thousand, so there are no problems in this regard.

How dangerous is the Tomahawk for Russia (if it is dangerous) and what are the methods of counteraction?

Strengths:
- very decent range;
- a wide range of tasks that can be solved with the help of Tomahawks;
- independence of operational level commanders in matters of selecting targets and striking them;
- great strategic mobility;
- the ability to deliver massive strikes from many directions;
- the ability to quickly change the position occupied, less vulnerability to a counterattack by the enemy;
- high level of missile stealth, due to the small thermal footprint and the absence of a bright flash during launch;
- operational simplicity of the available means for delivering a missile strike, which are located in sealed metal containers and do not require regular maintenance and inspections;
- modern guidance methods that ensure effective application.

It doesn't look very good. Nothing special, just a good missile capable of performing combat missions in a variety of conditions. The downsides, to be honest, are more significant.

The weakest side of the Tomahawk is its speed. 800 km/h is very little these days. On the route, when the missile is following the INS and maps, it is more than easy to intercept it by an aircraft. Considering that the Topor cannot maneuver with high overloads, it is an easy target. Also, the Tomahawk does not have the ability to operate IR traps and other decoys, so the missile is absolutely defenseless against SAM missiles.


Shooting down a Tomahawk throughout its entire trajectory today is not a big problem for any SAM system in service with the Russian Armed Forces. The same can be said about aircraft.

But there are also EW troops. It is clear that the most effective effects of electronic suppression can be at the final stage of the trajectory, when the missile's radar homing head comes into play. Plus, suppression of television communication channels with the operator and communication channels with satellites can be no less effective than anti-missiles.

There is another option for suppressing the Tomahawk. A laser system under certain weather conditions could very effectively work against the Tomahawk's optical system, which takes pictures of the territory over which the missile flies for subsequent comparison with those stored in the processor's memory. A laser against a matrix is not the best option for a missile. But combat laser systems are still in their infancy, but laser systems are still on the path to their development.

And alas, but for old "Axe" all means Defense pose a danger, even such an old thing as the ZU-23-2, in its modification ZU-23A, which received a compact radar and the ability to operate the gunner remotely.


As for more serious anti-aircraft missile and gun systems such as Shilka, Tunguska, and Pantsir, the Tomahawk is really not a problem.

The trump card of the "Axe" is its mass appeal


Indeed, today it is no longer innovative, but rather a classic method to overload an air defense system with older weapons or a mass attack by drones.

But this method is good for everything today, and works especially effectively in a combined attack, when drones, cruise missiles, and ballistics are used simultaneously. That's when it's very difficult to fight back even for a good air defense system. And you don't have to go looking for examples, the Israeli "Iron Dome" turned out to be either not iron, or not quite a dome.

But there is another aspect in which the use of the Tomahawk on Russian territory seems to me to be a very dubious matter.

Let's look at who these missiles were used against. Bosnian Serbs. Iraq. Yugoslavia. Sudan. Afghanistan. Libya. Syria. Iran.

What unites all these countries? The inability to adequately respond to a blow. Countries of the second and third military worlds, incapable of either properly defending themselves or striking back. Not Russia, in general.

To assess the "Axe" flying towards our borders, it is probably worth recalling Lavrov. Last year, the Russian Foreign Minister very clearly formulated how the launch of "Tomahawks" in our direction could end for everyone.

Let's break it down like this: Tomahawk is a cruise missile, primarily a strategic one. And it may not have a nuclear warhead. All these arguments "Yes, we'll give it with conventional ones, everything will be fine" - this is in favor of the poor. They won't give it. It is possible to track the launch of the "Axe", but to recognize what it is, a conventional one or with a nuclear warhead - whose headache?


Lavrov then clearly stated: the launch of strategic cruise missiles in our direction will definitely be interpreted as an act of aggression of the highest level and in response our strategic response forces will be immediately put into combat readiness.

It makes sense, we can’t wait until the Tomahawk arrives, can we?

That is why it is customary to inform "partners" about all launches that may be perceived ambiguously. When our guys attacked terrorist bases in Syria, the Americans knew exactly how many would fly and where. When the Americans launched missiles at their own targets in Syria, our guys also knew everything. And the launch of "Oreshnik" is completely from the same opera. All so that no one in their sleep would point a finger where it shouldn't be pointed and start the Apocalypse.

And back in 2024, Lavrov made it very clear that no one would bother to figure out whether a convection Tomahawk had flown, and a non-convection one would be considered strategic with all the ensuing consequences. And this is generally logical.

Therefore, the chances that the Tomahawks will end up in the hands of a gay Ukrainian drug addict are below zero. It is difficult to say who gave what to whom as a special opinion, but there are considerations on the topic that our people very clearly conveyed to their American partners how the games with the transfer of strategic missiles to idiots can end. A global final nightmare.

The reasons why we should not be afraid of Tomahawks are not only military, but also military-political. And where there is politics, there is always room for subtle play. Russia showed the whole world the "Nut Tree". Could the US stay away from the performance on stage? Of course not. That is why it turned out to be the "Axe Dance". Everyone is happy.

In general, even after all the upgrades, which, by the way, mainly concerned the guidance systems, the Tomahawk is a missile from the middle of the last century. Yes, it has participated in many conflicts, proven itself, and was produced in huge quantities, but nevertheless, it is a missile that has more disadvantages than advantages.

The Americans themselves (the part that understands) consider the main drawback of the Tomahawk to be the very low probability of overcoming the enemy’s layered anti-missile defense system, which will include a fighter Aviation, and tactical ground-based air defense systems, and electronic countermeasure systems. Remove at least one thing from this list, and the Tomahawk will still have a chance, but if you do it all together, there will be no chance.

Back in the 80s of the last century, during joint exercises of the US Air Force and ground forces, it turned out that the army's Hawk air defense systems, which were generally more than average, easily detected and conditionally destroyed 7-8 Tomahawk missiles out of 10. I am sure that modern Buk and Tor will shoot down 10 out of 10.


Well, if, according to the Americans, at that time the MiG-25 provided 100% destruction of Tomahawks flying at the lowest altitude, then modern aircraft will be more effective.

"Tomahawk" is a very good and solid missile. With satisfactory flight and excellent range characteristics, equipped with modern guidance systems, easy to prepare and use. Perfect for use against countries that do not have modern aviation and air defense. Just a great club for the international gendarme.

Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk. There is something to blunt it with.
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  1. 14+
    31 July 2025 04: 36
    Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk. There is something to blunt it with.
    Scary or not, it depends on how you look at it... The main thing here is to start, and then the nuclear Armageddon will quickly cover all the "fearless"... By the way, now, just as cheerfully as the author does (however, as always...), humanity is being taught the idea that tactical nuclear weapons are not scary, and even after strategic ones it is quite possible to survive... That's how the dinosaurs believed in their invincible power, and then somehow they died out... Let's treat everything just as frivolously, let's follow them...
    1. +7
      31 July 2025 07: 15
      From the point of view of 2025, the Tomahawk is essentially a UAV at maximum settings. That is, a very expensive version of the Geranium. We have the Geranium-3 with a jet engine, also an expensive pleasure.
      1. AAK
        12+
        31 July 2025 09: 19
        The main and decisive real advantage of the Tomahawk is its mass production, both in the number of missiles and in the number of carriers. Unfortunately, our Granat/Kalibr are not even close to this criterion, plus the Tomahawks can quite easily fulfill their task of overloading the air defense, and then the AGM-158C LRASM, of which the mattresses also have far from dozens, will go into real action... Yes, the Tomahawk was considered one of the main means in the concept of "Prompt Global Strike", on the eve or initial phase of a general war, but here it is no longer clear what kind of cockroaches live in Donnie's head and what they will whisper to him...
        1. 14+
          31 July 2025 09: 30
          The Americans themselves (the part that understands) consider the main drawback of the Tomahawk to be the very low probability of overcoming the enemy's layered anti-missile defense system, which will include fighter aircraft, tactical ground-based air defense systems, and electronic countermeasure systems. Remove at least one thing from this list and the Tomahawk will still have a chance, but if taken as a whole, there will be no chance.

          This thesis is questionable. Tomahawk cruise missiles are designed to fly at very low altitudes at high subsonic speeds and are guided along an evasive trajectory by several specialized guidance systems. The first combat use took place during Operation Desert Storm in 1991 and was a huge success. The main advantage of the Tomahawk cruise missile is its low visibility (low visibility), which allows it to avoid detection by radars and air defense systems. This feature, along with high accuracy and range, makes it an effective weapon for attacking ground targets, even in well-defended airspace.
          1. 11+
            31 July 2025 10: 14
            Quote: Alexander Odintsov
            This thesis is questionable. Tomahawk cruise missiles are designed to fly at very low altitudes at high subsonic speeds and are guided along an evasive trajectory by several specialized guidance systems.

            I know little about air defense systems, but I trust my husband, who is competent in these matters. He once wrote that even in Soviet times, when our air defense was much stronger than it is now, a good result was considered to be the defeat of 70% of enemy cruise missiles used in the first strike, provided that nuclear weapons were not used.
          2. +3
            31 July 2025 11: 12
            Quote: Alexander Odintsov
            The first combat use took place during Operation Desert Storm in 1991 and was a huge success.

            Yeah... according to the first data. A year later, the effectiveness of the CR in that operation was adjusted based on objective control data... but no one was interested in that anymore.
          3. -3
            31 July 2025 11: 48
            Desert Storm's success was in delivering the first strike by the F-117s to Iraqi air defense systems that they could not see.
            The kosher did roughly the same trick in 2025 with the Iranian air defense. Only instead of the Fu-117 they used sabotage groups with ATGMs. The Tomahawks themselves could only overload the air defense, and that was if the air defense worked.
      2. 0
        31 July 2025 18: 08
        very expensive version of Geranium

        Can geranium do this?
        The missile's warhead weighs 340 kg. The number of warhead variants is quite diverse: cluster, semi-armor-piercing, high-explosive, high-explosive fragmentation, penetrating, and so on.

        W80. Nuclear warhead with a yield of 5 to 200 kilotons.

        W84. Nuclear warhead with a yield of 5 to 150 kilotons.

        WDU-25/B. Semi-armor-piercing warhead, also used on the AGM-12 Bullpup missile.

        WDU-36/B. High-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 340 kg.

        Cassette. 166 combined-action combat elements BLU-97/B CEB, 1,5 kg each, in 24 cassettes.

        WDU-43/B. Penetrating/concrete-piercing warhead
    2. 13+
      31 July 2025 09: 37
      Therefore, the chances that the Tomahawks will end up in the hands of a Ukrainian gay drug addict are below zero.

      Maybe, but that's not the point. We need to learn the lessons of the attack on Iran. As political scientist Marat Bashirov said in an interview with MK.RU, US President Donald Trump's decision to strike Iran was a warning to Russia and China. And the president's press secretary also called the operation in Iran "a good lesson for everyone." NATO, represented by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, has long been probing our air defense and military facilities, even triads. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, on November 23, 2024, the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched an attack with five ATACMS missiles near the settlement of Lotaryovka (37 km northwest of Kursk) on the position of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile division. On December 18, the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched an attack with ATACMS and British Storm Shadow missiles on the Kamensky plant in the Rostov Region, the Defense Ministry reported. Six ATACMS missiles and four Storm Shadow missiles were used during the attack. And then Peskov stated that missile strikes on Russia were being directed by specialists from the United States.
      The problem is that a "decapitating" strike can be launched against us from the territory of Ukraine, as a pad, what then? The West will maintain its "purity" until the end. And if the attack is successful, a secondary strike can be launched against us from NATO along with a military invasion. But if we successfully repel the strike (at least mostly), Trump will yell at Zelensky and force him to sit down at the negotiating table. We will respond to Kyiv, but where are the decision-making centers? Will we be able to quickly assess the situation and give an adequate response or is the West not taking any risks, and we will not deliver any retaliatory strikes in such conditions? The risk is on our side 100%. Yes, we will then examine the wreckage and can respond to Germany if these are Taurus. But this is definitely the third world war, is it worth bringing things to it?
      Weapons have been imported to Ukraine for a long time now: we cannot control this process in any way. There are individual "leaks" on this topic, but there is no full picture.
      Perhaps the "Iranian option" for us will be a massive attack by a huge swarm of drones, combined with launches of cruise missiles, which will create enormous difficulties for our air defense. As in Iran, the strikes will be carried out, among other things, from sites inside Russia, which was already rehearsed on June 1.
      Moscow sincerely believes in Trump's "peacekeeping", possibly repeating, as on the eve of June 1941, Stalin's main mistake, who believed that the war would come later. And most importantly, it does not believe in this possibility at all.
      1. 0
        31 July 2025 11: 08
        Quote: Alexander Odintsov
        perhaps repeating, as on the eve of June 1941, Stalin's main mistake, who believed that the war would come later

        Rather, I didn’t think about it, but rather consoled myself with hope and wanted it.
    3. +2
      31 July 2025 18: 06
      and even after a strategic one it is quite possible to survive

      Can.
      But few people would like such a life.
      Therefore, there is no point in bringing this hour closer.
  2. +5
    31 July 2025 04: 36
    In order for us not to be afraid, but for them to be afraid, we must not be afraid to immediately use a blow between the legs to the enemy's face in response to a spit in our direction. It is necessary that the "red line" be one and not move. But with this...
  3. 17+
    31 July 2025 04: 49
    At that time, the MiG-25 provided 100% destruction of Tomahawks flying at the lowest altitude

    MiG-31, not MiG-25, because it could not detect a low-flying target.
    Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk. There is something to blunt it with.

    Slow-moving drones are allowed through, and the Axe will "become dull", ironclad logic. The Axe is not scary because Ukraine will not be given it. 100%.
  4. +2
    31 July 2025 04: 53
    If, like at a testing ground, there is ONE TARGET, ONE MISSILE - then oh. Israel has shown that even a dome can be full of holes. The mass and vast territory from which it will fly in - that's bad. Cockroaches and someone else might still survive, but ... We are already the SEVENTH generation on this planet and still haven't gained any intelligence.
  5. 21+
    31 July 2025 04: 55
    In 2022, all sorts of Europeans and Americans were very cautious about the possibility of transferring first aid kits to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, wondering how the Russian Federation would react, and what if it doesn't? 3,5 years have passed and ... without any caution, the option of transferring Tomahawk ground-based missile launchers to the Ukrainian Armed Forces is being considered. The only limiting factor here is the small number of these RLFL launchers (developed for the US Marine Corps, it is small and hard to catch in the woods) and Tiphon supernovas (this one is bigger). And these complexes will be located in Poland and will enter the territory of the Urina for 5 minutes to strike, and then immediately return to reload. And hit the Urina in response as much as you want, if you can after the destruction you have suffered at home, it is not a pity. Why is the issue of Tomahawks being raised now? Because in three and a half years the Western elite has finally received super-concrete guarantees about the absence of a response from our Elite to any attack (how to respond to someone who has your Money and Children?!) Here is the simplest answer. I think that the next step after unanswered strikes by ground-based complexes and the absence of a response will be the transfer of Minuteman III missiles "on lease" to the U.S. directly from American launch pads. Note that none of the Enemies can even hint at a possible strike with non-conventional weapons on North Korea. Why, what is the difference between North Korea and Russia? Only in the words of "friend" Brzezinski...
  6. +4
    31 July 2025 05: 06
    As far as I remember, the Indians sank only one Pakistani destroyer, the destroyer Khyber... And the second, Shah Jagan, was damaged and then written off as beyond repair.
    1. 0
      31 July 2025 11: 32
      Aren't these the same thing? Well, you can also replace the word sunk with destroyed.
      1. 0
        31 July 2025 14: 17
        It's not quite the same thing...
    2. +2
      31 July 2025 11: 57
      How, in terms of the immediate result of an attack, does direct destruction differ from damage that makes further use (especially immediate, and not after damage assessment and possible repairs) of the equipment impossible?
      1. +1
        31 July 2025 14: 18
        Well, at least because many things are preserved...
  7. 13+
    31 July 2025 05: 10
    Well, it is also worth considering that there is no ideal air defense, there is no system that would shoot down 100% of flying targets, even considering that we have always been strong in air defense, here and there our targets are hit by "debris" of UAVs, and other nasty things flying in our direction, so it is not worth saying that we will work the Tomahawks easily, relaxed, with one hand, and so on....
    1. -1
      1 August 2025 14: 52
      There is an ideal air defense - the enemy's fear! No drones fly to American bases in the Middle East. Although there are plenty of opportunities request
  8. 14+
    31 July 2025 05: 22
    "Krasukhi", which under certain conditions can simply burn out all electronics.

    Burn it out... yeah.
    And the Tomahawk did not appear as a result of SALT I, as it was not subject to restrictions, but as a result of the impression made /in retrospect/ on the Pakistanis by the Termites...
    You can not read further.
  9. +5
    31 July 2025 06: 03
    I can only supplement the article with data available to me in the early 80s. At that time, the axe only had a satellite navigation system for our territory due to the lack of an overwhelming number of digital maps.
    1. +2
      31 July 2025 14: 30
      Well now the 25th with "Yandex maps" )))
  10. 11+
    31 July 2025 06: 21
    Everything is correct, when 100 Tomahawks fly and at an altitude of 10-15 meters they cannot be quickly detected and destroyed, for this there must be MiG 31 in commercial quantities, and this is at least 30-40 aircraft, and when will we have a continuous radar field and air defense? Every 50-100 km there must be air defense missile systems, when I was in Bandera's Crimea in 2003-2010, my parents lived there, so I drove along the roads along the coast, so every 10-20 km there were our Soviet S-300s, they gave them to the freaks, Yeltsin to the chopping block am
    What I'm getting at is that it's time to return to the USSR, otherwise the rich people who are in power will sell us out. feel
    1. 0
      31 July 2025 23: 43
      Correction - the Axe does not fly at SUCH altitudes: 30-50m range. Another question - they riveted THOUSANDS of them, and if used en masse, this will create certain problems for air defense...
      Now about efficiency.
      The last more or less widespread use: in Syria during Trump's first term during dinner with Comrade Xi... Xi did not move a muscle on his face when Trump whispered with a grin
      Comrade Xi on the "successful" attack...
      But...how Trump's eyes ROLLED out when he learned about the Kalibr strike on ISIS on Putin's birthday...
      And...about efficiency, when ALL! missiles hit where they were supposed to...
      And the Axe...
      In the 80s, at the Sary-Shagan and Asheluk test sites, S-125 air defense systems fired at targets similar to the Topor: these were the Belka and Lashka cruise missiles flying from 20 meters above the surface...
      Result: 97,5%...
      And this is an old complex (rather bulky), but it hit these targets like sunflower seeds - I PERSONALLY OBSERVED...
      1. 0
        1 August 2025 13: 54
        In 1981-1982 I was in the vicinity of the Ashuluk test site, of course not where the missiles were launched, but where the tank test site was, but we saw missilemen, Germans from the GDR came for the firing.
      2. -1
        1 August 2025 14: 12
        The flight altitude is adjusted according to the terrain, everything is programmable, and the C125 was hitting at 20 meters, respect, and I was lucky to observe hi Well, Trump is a real loser, and you can't expect anything good from him am
  11. +9
    31 July 2025 06: 24
    back in 2024, Lavrov made it very clear that no one would look into it, a convection Tomahawk flew there, a non-convection one would be considered strategic with all the ensuing consequences

    Convection — an adjective meaning related or correlated in meaning with the noun "convection", as well as inherent or characteristic of it
    What is Lavrov talking about? Electric furnaces? Or does Lavrov not know how to pronounce the word "conventional"?! Or is our multi-tasking author again distorting the terms?!
    1. +1
      31 July 2025 16: 58
      Or is our multi-tasking author again distorting the terms?!
      good good good good good laughing
  12. 12+
    31 July 2025 06: 49
    If the radio altimeter readings start to "goof", then the rocket will follow the readings of the barometric altimeter, which cannot be jammed.

    It won't work. A radio altimeter measures the distance to the earth's surface, so it can be used for terrain reference. A barometric altimeter measures the height relative to sea level, so it can't be used for terrain reference.
  13. -3
    31 July 2025 07: 09
    Several (say, up to ten, unlikely to give more) Tomahawks flying towards Moscow can make sense only in one case: if they carry a nuclear charge. One or two missiles, with a properly organized strike, have some chance of breaking through the air defense and with a nuclear charge can solve some problem. With a conventional charge - at most they can give a reason for a response, no problem will be solved in this case.
    Let's imagine the situation, so to speak, in color. Taking off in the wooded mountains somewhere behind the Beskid tunnel, a salvo of six, eight, ten Tomahawks slowly flies (at about 0,8 Sonic speed) towards Central Russia. Here we need to stop and figure out how we can respond to this.

    The range of responses is actually wide, but perhaps it is only just beginning with a hundred kilotons at once in Brussels, Ramstein and Rzeszow as an expression of some dissatisfaction with the developments.
    1. +8
      31 July 2025 08: 53
      with a properly organized strike

      The Ukrainian Armed Forces have proven more than once that they can overload air defense and push through. Axes will add to their capabilities.
      Range of answers

      This range consists only of the width and length of our red line.
      1. +1
        31 July 2025 14: 33
        I completely agree! Soon everything that can will fly in our direction.
  14. 13+
    31 July 2025 07: 54

    Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk. There is something to blunt it with.

    We all remember very well what the consequences of shapkozaditelstvo are fraught with from 2022. The memories are still very fresh... The axe is a weapon, although old, but very dangerous. And the worst thing is that Western partners have a lot of it, and by overloading the air defense with false targets and knocking out the air defense launchers, battle axes will cause a lot of trouble. So you definitely shouldn't relax.
  15. 12+
    31 July 2025 08: 48
    with all the ensuing consequences

    Damn, what consequences? So far all the consequences for the EU and the US that we initiate are a laughing matter for our concerns. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were given Abrams, Leopards, M777, Khimars, advanced communications and a lot of money to support the work. Did this cause any consequences? The infantilism of ours is already clear to the whole world.
    As for the axe, it's a formidable weapon that can destroy infrastructure and send people to the next world. And all sorts of "ugh, we'll knock it down" are out of place here.
  16. 12+
    31 July 2025 09: 26
    The only drawback of TERCOM is that this system is not very effective on relatively flat terrain: steppes, deserts, tundra, etc., where optical sensors have nothing to "catch on to". But here other systems come to the rescue.

    There are no "optical sensors" in TERCOM.
    With remote control, the operator observes the target

    belay Bring back the minuses to the articles!
    1. 10+
      31 July 2025 10: 08
      Quote: Nefarious skeptic
      Bring back the minuses to the articles!

      I join your wish! This would have a positive effect on the quality of publications!
      1. +9
        31 July 2025 10: 29
        This would have a positive effect on the quality of publications!

        Hardly. Those authors for whom the quality of publications is important, they try even without minuses. And for the rest, no minuses will help.
        1. +4
          31 July 2025 10: 32
          Quote: Nikname2025
          Hardly. Those authors for whom the quality of publications is important, they try even without minuses. And for the rest, no minuses will help.

          Well, at least it will be clear how readers feel about the writings of authors who frankly do not understand what they are writing about and are just “pouring water” in order to increase the volume of the publication.
  17. 12+
    31 July 2025 09: 50
    The author has convinced us: it is easy to intercept ONE tomahawk, if, of course, you know where it will fly, and there will be at least a "Shilka" on its way. But what if there are hundreds of them? The existing air defense system, both for the territory and for important objects, needs both qualitative improvement and, especially, quantitative expansion. And this is a very big job.
  18. +6
    31 July 2025 10: 35
    Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk. There is something to blunt it with.
    There is always something and someone to blunt. There are thousands of axes, and this is coupled with other cruise missiles and ICBMs. We are emptying our arsenals, shooting down Bandera drones, spending expensive and labor-intensive anti-aircraft missiles on cheap drones and penny copters. To be left with empty warehouses in front of NATO and the US is a sad prospect, but even the individual Tomahawk missiles, if they end up with the Ukrainian Armed Forces, will not seem "blunted" to us. Should our "partners" decide to do this, after helmets and bulletproof vests they have already decided on many things...
  19. +6
    31 July 2025 10: 49
    "Tomahawk - a new problem or not?"
    Well, I think so. No need to throw your hats in the air.
  20. +9
    31 July 2025 11: 05
    By the way, where it is not possible to place the SAM system in the natural folds of the terrain, in some areas they simply piled up huge mountains of sand and drove the Pantsirs or Tors on top. Sorry, I will not provide a photo for obvious reasons, but in our region this is quite common.

    This has been common since the Soviet era. Because of the radio horizon problem, surveillance radars and control and guidance radars were raised as high as possible, using all possible methods. Somewhere, radars were driven to the tops of multi-meter mounds piled up over shelters. Somewhere, they were raised to truly cyclopean platforms.

    Later, special 40V6M towers with a height of 26 m and 39 m appeared.
    1. 0
      1 August 2025 13: 57
      wow! I've never seen such things before!
      1. +1
        1 August 2025 15: 17
        Quote: realist
        wow! I've never seen such things before!

        The 40V6M towers are a standard attribute of each S-300 and S-400 position. Their characteristic view from above (the transporter with spread out supports resembles the Algiz rune) and the shadow from the tower itself are the main unmasking factor, allowing one to clearly determine from space images that this is a working OP.
        I saw the stationary lifting platform of the OVC radar back in Soviet times, when I spent my summer term in a pioneer camp. smile From Pukhtolova Mountain in Roshchino there was a wonderful view of two radar stations "hovering" above the forest in Reshetnikovo (now it is the 1488th anti-aircraft missile regiment). And when we went on a hike, we saw these structures up close. You know, it was somehow uneasy when you see a huge welded truss among the tree trunks, going somewhere up beyond the treetops.
        1. 0
          4 August 2025 08: 50
          the resolution of space images only recently became 30x30 cm pixels, and that's the Americans. I couldn't find any precise data here, but it's like a 3x3 meter pixel, you can't tell a tanker from an aircraft carrier in a photo, alas. But they say ours have learned to steal those same American ones with a resolution of 30x30 cm, so it's normal
          I haven’t seen any stationary platforms, there are no forests in the Astrakhan region, just steppes, good visibility.
          1. +2
            4 August 2025 11: 30
            Quote: realist
            The resolution of space images has only recently become 30x30 cm pixels

            Believe me, already in Google Earth, in the pictures from the 2010s, the 20x20 m structure is clearly visible.
            Here is a photo from 2014. Two views at once: the tower from above and the tower from the side:

            The photo shows S-300P at former S-200 positions in the Kaliningrad region
            © respected Sergey Linnik
            1. 0
              4 August 2025 13: 49
              Holy shit!!! What kind of resolution is this?
  21. +1
    31 July 2025 13: 34
    that's why it was very difficult for ground-based radar detection systems to spot a missile until recently!!!!! And now radars have learned to see through the ground and mountains!!! What an achievement!
    1. +1
      1 August 2025 10: 38
      It's just that now the lifting radar has become practically the standard.
      C-350:

      "Buk-M3":
      1. 0
        1 August 2025 16: 45
        At what distance does a standard lift radar see a tomahawk? How much time does it take to identify a threat and make a decision to destroy it??? What if there are 300 tomahawks flying in the s5? What if the tomahawks are flying behind a mountain, a canyon? Relief
        1. 0
          1 August 2025 17: 18
          Quote: Clever man
          At what range can a standard elevation radar see a tomahawk?

          For a low-altitude detector on a 40V6MD tower, the radio visibility range of a Tomahawk flying at an altitude of 10 m is 38 km.
          Quote: Clever man
          What if there are 300 tomahawks flying into the s5?

          If I remember correctly, the "three hundred" has 6 channels for targets, 12 for SAMs.
          Quote: Clever man
          What if the tomahawks are flying behind a mountain, a canyon? Relief

          But the air defense system exists to eliminate these “ifs”.
          A single complex is a suicide bomber in any case. Either they will overwhelm you with the number of targets and decoys, or they will catch you reloading (hello to the Armenian "Tor" in Karabakh and the Syrian "Pantsir").
          Air defense is strong with a system in which some are responsible for detection (RTV), others - for the overall picture of the air situation, the proper placement of air defense systems (with mutual overlapping sectors and without dead zones) and target distribution for them (regiment/brigade/army headquarters), and others - for destruction (ZRV).
          The target for Division A is behind the mountain? That means Division B should cover this area, and they will be given the target designation. Although now they can do a trick, having Division A work on an invisible target using SAMs with ARL homing, using external target designation.
          1. -1
            1 August 2025 17: 41
            What I mean is that on which destroyer are there 90 Tomahawks, not counting the ground-based launchers, they can easily overload any air defense system, make a breach, and through it the F16s will pour in
          2. -1
            1 August 2025 17: 42
            If I remember correctly, the "three hundred" has 6 channels for targets, 12 for SAMs. And 4 missiles per launch.
  22. +2
    31 July 2025 14: 27
    well, well...another "red line"))))))))))))))))))
  23. +1
    31 July 2025 15: 25
    The weakest point of the Tomahawk is its speed. 800 km/h is very little these days.

    Current air defense does not provide 100% destruction against aircraft drones flying at a speed of 300 km/h. ...
    1. +1
      1 August 2025 06: 56
      Are calibers with a velocity of 0.8M different?)
  24. +2
    31 July 2025 15: 35
    But there was no point in drawing "red lines" and then allowing them to be crossed! At first, NATO dogs were afraid to even supply helmets, and now even "Tomahawks" are being discussed...
    1. -4
      31 July 2025 15: 40
      Quote: Tail pipe
      and now even "tomahawks" are being discussed...

      Tomahawks are "discussed" only and exclusively on VO. Calling those discussing them "NATO dogs" is, at the very least, not entirely correct.
      1. +6
        31 July 2025 15: 53
        Tomahawks are "discussed" only and exclusively on VO. Calling those discussing them "NATO dogs" is, at the very least, not entirely correct.

        On VO, they don’t discuss, but talk about what...
        Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk.

        And in the comments they are shocked by such hooray statements
        1. -4
          31 July 2025 15: 58
          Quote: spektr9
          Countries like Russia and China are not afraid of the Tomahawk.

          Please contact the author of the article with this.

          Quote: spektr9
          And in the comments they are shocked by such hooray statements

          Not only.

          And no one in the world is seriously discussing the use of Tomahawks in Ukraine. Just as, incidentally, no one in the Russian Federation is seriously discussing strikes (even against Ukraine) with strategic missiles. Because it is fraught with Yes
  25. 0
    31 July 2025 18: 03
    convection

    At first I thought it was a typo.
    No, the author is simply an "expert".
    Not to distinguish between convention and convection, but to discuss "geopolitical" topics)
    What is the article about, Roma?
    That Tomahawk is trash, we'll knock it all down?
    Based on the number of carriers given in the article, only a salvo of Tomahawks is capable of breaking through air defenses on its own.
    The US has a lot of carriers. 61 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers (can carry 56 missiles), 3 or 4 Ticonderoga-class cruisers (64 missiles each), 4 Ohio-class nuclear submarines (154 missiles each)

    So how many targets will there be in one salvo?
    How many UAVs does the Ukrainian Armed Forces launch per night so that some of them can get past the air defense?
    Today there is no impenetrable air defense.
    Simply no.
    The only questions are the required number of launched munitions and the number of those that hit the targets, as well as the number of targets and their resistance to destruction. This is evident both in the SVO and in the recent Israeli-Iranian conflict.
  26. +3
    31 July 2025 18: 12
    When the USSR had a layered multi-level air defense with hundreds of SAM divisions and thousands of fighter-interceptors, then breaking through it even with thousands of Tomahawks was a problematic issue. But what about the "compact contract army" that barely manages to protect Moscow from UAVs? After all, the air defense was destroyed precisely under the slogan that "our now respected Western partners" are no longer a likely enemy for us, and air defense is not needed against the notorious "international theory".
    For example, the MiG-31 with its radar was designed primarily to counter cruise missiles. And now there are only a few of these fighters left.
    Therefore, for the Russian air defense, Tomahawks are a huge pain in the ass. And only the Soviet missile shield, left to the Russian Federation, keeps the West from the temptation to strike.
    1. +1
      31 July 2025 20: 11
      Regarding the large number of Tomahawk carriers they have, I think if we take into account the fact that cruise missiles do not necessarily have to be launched from strategic aviation aircraft, of which we do not have many, or ships. Any missiles, including cruise missiles, are easier and much cheaper to launch from ground launchers, for example, from a car, a railway platform, even silos for cruise missiles are easier to build than maintaining airfields, aircraft, and crews.
  27. +1
    31 July 2025 20: 17
    Convectional/conventional...Iran or Iraq, which is correct, asked Skomorokhov.
  28. Ray
    -1
    31 July 2025 20: 54
    All these arguments "Yes, we will give it with convection ones, everything will be fine" - this is in favor of the poor. They will not give it. It is possible to track the launch of the "Axe", but to recognize what it is, convection or with a nuclear warhead - whose headache?
    Actually, it's not "convection b.h", but "conventional". From the word "convection", not "convection". We're talking about the b.h, not the heating radiator or air conditioner.
  29. +3
    31 July 2025 21: 22
    Everything is fine, but here are some quirks:
    at the maximum permissible low altitude
    by God, they are an eyesore (and not only). Why can't it be something like "at the minimum permissible height"? In Russian, "maximum" means "the greatest". And "the smallest" is very awkward.
  30. 0
    1 August 2025 10: 00
    Quote: Zufei
    Are calibers with a velocity of 0.8M different?)

    I think there are statistics on the effectiveness of all our cruise missiles. But it is definitely not 100%.
  31. Des
    0
    1 August 2025 20: 15
    From the author's article on VO: "The weakest side of the Tomahawk is its speed. 800 km/h is very little these days. On the route, when the missile is following the INS and maps, it is more than easy to intercept it with an aircraft. Considering that the Topor cannot maneuver with high overloads, it is an easy target. Also, the Tomahawk does not have the ability to operate IR traps and other decoys, so the missile is absolutely defenseless against SAM missiles."
    However, aircraft-type UAVs fly even slower, without much maneuvering, without IR traps. And some reach the target (thanks to the air defense - they shoot down many). That is, as with the Axes, the mass of the aircraft is decisive.
  32. +1
    3 August 2025 09: 15
    If the radio altimeter readings start to "go crazy", the rocket will follow the barometric altimeter readings.

    In Syria, on the routes of the axes' flight, they turned on a serial Soviet electronic warfare system, which jammed the radio altimeter; the missiles immediately rose to a height of 300 m to avoid hitting the terrain, and there the air defense systems were already waiting for them.
    But this is only one of the methods of counteraction.
    P.S. The comments already answered that the barometric altimeter is not suitable for flight on terrain
  33. kig
    -1
    16 November 2025 09: 15
    They've reassured me. My beloved city can rest easy. Although...something similar was said about Ukrainian Neptunes, too.