What happens if the Minister of Education Livanova is dismissed?

It seems that in the absence of such a person as Anatoly Serdyukov in the Russian government, all popular “love” has spread to the head of the Ministry of Education and Science, Mr. Livanov. And if the publication “Military Review”, which is not indifferent to the present and future of the Russian education system, began to draw readers' attention to Lebanon, excuse me, for a long time, then only today the activities of the Minister of Education of the Russian Federation and the ministry headed by him began to be interested, let's say, real wide.

The matter even reached the point that the main educational reformer of the country, who continued Andrei Fursenko’s “great achievements”, got into the topical issues of the Russian Twitter segment. The name of Dmitry Viktorovich was thoroughly highlighted in the service of microblogging in a very eloquent form. #LivanovDavayDOsVidaniya...

This phrase is the quintessence of that all-Russian discontent with the policies of the ministry as a whole and its leader in particular, which has been rapidly gaining momentum lately. The Russian public, expecting “in exchange” for Fursenko, an initiative and soul-sick minister for the domestic system of education and science, received a kind of clone, which periodically allowed itself to issue such tirades from which people from that very environment of education and science looked at each other and turned their eyes to the side.

Minister of Education and Science of Russia Dmitry Livanov. Photo: Dmitry Dukhanin / Kommersant

We present to your attention a selection of quotes that have made a lot of noise from the currently acting Minister of Education of the Russian Federation.

Dmitry Livanov about Russian science:

I believe that this form of organization of science in the 21-th century is unpromising. She will not live, she is not viable. But she lives with us ... What I depend on, I will do in order for this situation to change.

It turns out that Dmitry Viktorovich directly declares that he is ready to go to any length, so that the system of organization of Russian science ceases to live at all. Well, if translated into the category of medicine, then the meaning is approximately as follows. The doctor bent over the patient and said: of course, the patient will not live, but while he is still breathing. And I will do everything that depends on me to stop breathing as quickly as possible ...

A sort of Mr. Euthanasia for education and science.

Dmitry Livanov on education reform:

If in 10-15 years such a public consensus is fixed, one can safely say that we have achieved the final result of the changes that are taking place today.

Analyzing this statement, one can come to the conclusion that, in the opinion of the Minister of Education, only after a decade and a half Russia will be able to reach a common opinion on the reform. But here Dmitry Viktorovich should uncover the mystery: the public consensus on the implemented model of education reform in Russia has already been reached: the overwhelming majority of people see the variations of educational system reform evident in the chosen Ministry of Education as obvious and huge drawbacks, beyond which any existing advantages are barely distinguishable.

Dmitry Livanov on closing or transforming "inefficient" universities:

We voted, colleagues, why go back?

This is a kind of ministerial version of the famous phrase "Carthage must be destroyed." Indeed, if we started to tear down, then “why go back” and think about the deed, giving in to the desire to fix something after all ...

Dmitry Livanov on paid higher education:

As soon as we get away from universal free higher education, mechanisms will appear that will help attract valuable personnel to enterprises. For example, an educational loan. If a good education is expensive and the person is forced to pay for it, he will be able to take out a loan, and the future employer will pay it in exchange for obligations.

Amazing words for a person who positions himself as a government official, advocating the development of Russian science and education. If we even reach the point where the educational sphere is relocated on credit rails, then this system will have to put a large oak cross. Can you imagine the crowd of employers who will repay their educational loans for their potential subordinates? .. If such employers exist in Russia, then they will be able to erect bronze monuments with statues up to their full height.

Well, and finally, the main pearl Dmitry Livanov on how to properly vote on a particular issue:

You're about ... Look here.

Unfortunately, we cannot give the full version of this ministerial quote to our subordinate, which appeared not so long ago on live television, for moral and ethical reasons. But on 99%, the activists of the notorious movement FEMEN, who quoted Dmitry Viktorovich with small bills on their half-naked bodies, could afford it, and also entering the trend, demanded the resignation of Livanov ... It is noteworthy that the “vocal” girls “excited” news not about the strangeness of reforming the education system in Russia, but the total introduction of the Antiplagiat system in Russian universities. This introduction, according to FEMEN, can provoke widespread harassment of female students by university professors. They say, Livanov, do not block off the oxygen they write off ... Well, a kind of answer to the Lebanon logic ...

However, all twitter trends and performances of girls with a naked torso is one thing, but the collection of signatures by State Duma deputies for the resignation of an ineffective minister is quite another. The initiative to "build" Dmitry Livanov in the "rank" of the EX-Minister is being acted upon at once by three Duma factions: the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, justice and the Liberal Democratic Party. In addition, supporters of the resignation of the Minister of Education and Science are in the party of power. In particular, a deputy from the United Russia faction Vladimir Burmatov (deputy chairman of the Duma Committee on Education and Science), who not so long ago, responding to the Military Review question about why the Committee could not counteract the promotion of the ambiguous Education Act, said that this document was concocted at the Ministry of Education and Science, and the Committee could not counteract these developments, decided to strike at the Ministry of Education from the other side. Burmatov decided to check the activities of such a university as MISiS for the period when Dmitry Livanov was at the helm of this university. According to Vladimir Burmatov, it was precisely at that time that the 57 of millions of budget rubles evaporated at the university, and the criminal case on this issue was hushed up. Now the Chamber has to verify this information. If the data about which the deputy Burmatov speaks turns out to be reliable, then new questions will be added to Livanov, and not only in terms of educational reform ...

And now about what will happen if Livanov is really decided to dismiss. If we take into account that we (something to hide) were happy about the resignation of the previous minister Fursenko and pinned hopes on the minister of the new (Livanov, in fact), will the Lebanon resignation bring positive results for Russian education and science? Since the task is to complete the initiated (dubious reform option) to the end, here Livanov is just an ordinary member of this reform, who conducted it on certain patterns that he inherited from the previous leadership of the ministry. And so one Livanov will leave - another Livanov will come, who will also first be met with applause, and then we will begin to scratch our heads ...

It turns out that the change of the Fursenko-Livanovs' places will not change the result as long as the plans of the chosen reform option themselves are methodically put into practice.

In general, Dmitry Viktorovich, if you really stand up for the development of the Russian scientific and educational system, then it is time to finish making a garden. You did not take loans for training at one time ... But your university, because there were no “sufficient” foreigners in it, and you clearly had problems with “self-sufficiency”, did not record ineffective ones. And the system in which the Nobel Prize winners in physics work was not recorded as unviable. And for some reason, at that time no one had any questions about the quality of education and science in the country. So, the dog is buried in a slightly different place ...

Comments

[mark1]

"What happens if Education Minister Livanov is dismissed?"
And the same as after the resignation of Serdyukov - the directors and rectors will drink for a week.

[Tersky]

Quote: mark1

And the same as after the resignation of Serdyukov - the directors and rectors will drink for a week.

What the grandmother would whisper, only the author of the article is right

And therefore, one Livanov will leave - the other Livanov will come, whom we will also first meet with applause, and then we will begin to scratch the back of his head ...

not Livanov’s business .... , and in those who appoint the Livanovs ..

[Vadivak]

Quote: Tersky

not Livanov’s business .... but in those who appoint Livanov’s ..

The Yeltsin case Lives and conquers

[Ribwort]

Quote: Vadivak

The Yeltsin case Lives and conquers

But what’s already there ... Let’s immediately remember Rurik, it’s not from there the roots of all troubles Boriska, of course, is still the same ... But after him 12 years have passed, as it were. No?

[Tersky]

Quote: Vadivak

The Yeltsin case Lives and conquers

Vadim, good health! That’s shitty that lives and in addition wins. Initially, everything is cut down in the bud ..

[Vadivak]

Quote: Tersky

Vadim, good health! This is shitty that lives

Vitya and hello to you. And where to go if that team didn’t die yet

[vezunchik]

All practically reforms led the country to a standstill. And it must be admitted! Education medicine is a retirement economic military1 And joining the WTO did not bring tangible results. GDP is practically at zero ... What next ????
As guys don’t sit down, everyone is not good at musicians ....

[Grishka100watt]

By joining the WTO, we documented the fact that we opened our market. And it was open since the time of EBN, so that nifiga has not changed, and could not change.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Grishka100watt

By joining the WTO, we documented the fact that we opened our market. And it was open since the time of EBN, so that nifiga has not changed, and could not change.

Throughout the WTO, the fact of the matter is that we haven’t documented a damn thing ... We entered in order to enter ... even without really reading the documents. and now officials from the government themselves do not know how they now continue to work in the conditions of the WTO or do not want to know because the absence of Russian regulatory acts in no way hits their own pockets and does not affect the amount of rollback. It’s easier to admit, as the Ministry of Agriculture did, that 3/4 of the country's territory is unfavorable for agriculture, than to defend the interests of their own country within the framework of that organization, for which they, the liberals, advocated joining. All industrial countries developed in the conditions of protectionism, that is, strict protection of own production from any competitors from outside. And the WTO is precisely the organization that prohibits such protectionism. Any subsidies to enterprises, protection of their products from similar imports, and so on. In order to master a new production, it is necessary to protect it from any competition for some time, otherwise the development of such a production will simply be unprofitable,
China, India, South Korea, France, Great Britain, Germany and other countries were first modernized, and then joined the WTO.
And here is an example of Ukraine. Ukraine is the breadbasket. Fertile soil, hardworking peasants. But in 2008, the country joined the WTO ...

“In the 2009st quarter of 6,9, 103 thousand tons of oil and fats were imported to Ukraine, which is 0,5 times more than the corresponding period. As a result, the share of imports in the total supply of oil in the domestic market increased from 2008% in 40 to XNUMX% in the current. This was reported in the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation (UAK). “If this trend continues, then Ukraine will be thrown with imported oil and domestic producers, at best, all that remains is to pack imported products”

, - believes the head of the UAK project Alexander Yaroslavsky.

“Ukraine, in connection with its membership in the WTO, refused to introduce export subsidies, and it will be problematic for it to increase the import duty,” A. Yaroslavsky is convinced. - The level of state support, given the limited means of the state budget, is significantly limited. Thus, domestic producers of raw milk and milk processing enterprises were left face to face with global problems. ”

It is known that in the West, dairy products are subsidized. After lowering import duties, it will be almost impossible to compete with Western manufacturers, and many enterprises across the country will be on the verge of bankruptcy. As a result, all or almost all of Russia's dairy industry will be bent, and thousands of people in villages will be left without work. Well, as we sold oil and gas, we will continue to sell it because they are not regulated by any WTO rules.
A dairy can fight cheap imported yoghurts (which are cheap because their producer was cheap) for several years, but sooner or later it will go bankrupt. The cheapness of money abroad - namely, in the WTO member countries for which we open our domestic markets - will lead to the defeat of our industry. This is one of the most painful consequences of Russia's entry into the WTO. Since the fact that the markets of the “civilized” world will open to us, we are neither cold nor hot - because we have nothing to export there.

[Kaa]

Quote: Ascetic

With the omission of the WTO, the fact of the matter is that not a damn documented.

Or maybe this is the homespun truth of life, is it homespun, scanty and condo? There are documents - there is a problem, no - no and no trial ...
While the Russian Gazprom
there is a mixture of methane-propane-butane
In his calm home
Ivan sneezed at the WTO!
"But if they don't take it, we'll turn off the gas!" An example comes from the USSR. We officially recognized the patent legislation, and copied the Tu-4. 70% of the drugs were "from the West", only with Soviet names. When did the tsar's debts pay? Someone imposed penalties? Except in pants, sorry. That's when we broadcast in 1991, then all sorts of sanctions, fines, etc. began. There will be force - we will adjust the WTO to our vision. Actually, I am a pessimist, but this is a well-informed optimist. an optimist clutches his head in the belief that it will not get worse, and a pessimist is sure that it will be even worse. And it is unlikely to be worse than in the 90s ... if no one "fanned the world fire"

[vadimN]

Quote: Vadivak

The Yeltsin case Lives and conquers

Stop kicking the corpse already. After Yeltsin for nearly 20 years, someone else steers ... (remind a surname?). Although, you are right - having replaced verbal husk with clever-patriotic speeches, the thing is he continues the previous one - a quiet ditching of Russia as a powerful state.

[Vadivak]

Quote: vadimN

Stop kicking the corpse already. After Yeltsin for nearly 20 years, someone else steers ...

Namesake forgot to add, someone successor

[baltika-18]

Quote: Tersky

not Livanov’s business .... but to those who appoint Livanov’s ..

Livanov, no one will argue, a furious successor to the Fursenko affair.
The question is where is Fursenko right now? Answer: Advisor to the President, in the presidential administration.
I think there is no doubt that the fact that everything that Livanov does is agreed with the president and his administration.
Even if Livanov is dismissed, nothing will change in education, the concept adopted by Fursenko in 2004 with the blessing of Putin will continue to be implemented.

[Grishka100watt]

Putin must be removed and put you.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Grishka100watt

Putin must be removed and put you.

I'm not against.
Elite coffins began to cook. 700 thousand is not such a big price for the happiness of our children.

[Grishka100watt]

I'm not against.

And your gut will not be thin? And the people will be against it.

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Quote: Grishka100watt

Putin must be removed and put you.

Quote: baltika-18

I'm not against.

Quote: Grishka100watt

And your gut will not be thin?

Then let's put you down. Your gut seems to be quite thick. You 140 press from the chest.

[Grishka100watt]

Then let's put you down. Your gut seems to be quite thick. You 140 press from the chest.

Our thinking is different. I do not seek power. I wish the country good, and I know that I can’t manage it.

But I have enough mind to see what is happening and draw conclusions.
Russia was lucky to have such a leader.

As for my athletic performance - well, there’s nothing to laugh at objectively.

And the fourth: you trolls, stupid initiative tips and Judas.

[d.gksueyjd]

Those who wanted a "good country" brought Yeltsin to power with Chubais and Gaidar, and then voted for Medvedev, etc., etc. From such "well-wishers," Russia has been on its knees for over 20 years!

[Grishka100watt]

Those who wanted a "good country" brought Yeltsin to power with Chubais and Gaidar, and then voted for Medvedev, etc., etc. From such "well-wishers," Russia has been on its knees for over 20 years!

I did not vote for Medvedev; I do not put Chubais Gaidar and Yeltsin on a par with Putin.
Who they are, I know, childhood passed in 90 - this is not forgotten.

Livanov must be kicked in the ass, put the one who will comply with the instructions of the president, not the State Department.

In general, it’s a pity that you personally didn’t want to say this to me, and so I wrote on the forum. You fell a little, since you write this.
I didn’t answer you - I explained to people who are on the forum thread.

[vadimN]

Quote: Grishka100watt

I did not vote for Medvedev; I do not put Chubais Gaidar and Yeltsin on a par with Putin.
Who they are, I know, childhood passed in 90 - this is not forgotten.

And in the 90s I was the age to watch, think, compare ... And I remember where Putin came from. I remember how in the same 90s in St. Petersburg about Putin there were a lot of publications about his participation in all sorts of gray affairs at the Sobchak court ... I remember how the same Yeltsin presented his country as a successor ... And does anyone really think that under total American rule in the Russian government during the Yeltsin era, would they have allowed a patriotic personality to be "elevated" to the throne ?? Haha.

After the Yeltsin mess, Putin was in demand both by the people of the country and the ruling backstage! And then their interests coincided with ours.
And here's what: further mess threatened a social explosion. And as we know from history, any social explosion in Russia ends with a lot of blood, devastation and revival of the country, but behind the Iron Curtain and even stronger. And who needs it? To none of those who "rule the World".
they need a calm, moronic, religious, ruled country that will obediently pump resources to the West and not pretend to anything ... And this can be achieved by calm, non-military methods - Fursenkov’s reforms of education and science (so that they won’t be smart), health care reform (to make the excess faster), by destroying their high-tech industry (they will do television for us in China, our destiny is to pump oil), and replace the obstinate Russian population with foreign migrants.

And in order for all this to pass peacefully into life, we need a cat-bayun who can sing patriotic tales, calm the people and pretend to fight for the country ... Putin was ideally suited to this role from all Yeltsin's entourage. he was chosen by the ruling imperialist and Zionist "behind the scenes".
... Do not worship the words! Analyze actions and compare them with words! And everything will become clear ...

[Grishka100watt]

Putin was perfect. he was chosen by the ruling imperialist and Zionist "behind the scenes".
... Do not worship the words! Analyze actions and compare them with words! And everything will become clear.

Putin remained in power because Yeltsin put him in such a way that it was impossible to do anything - he announced this in a New Year’s speech.
Perhaps he hoped that he would be able to save the country (although I do not condone Yeltsin and treat him sharply negatively).

Moderately patriotic power came to power in the person of Putin (moderately because there was not much real power). After 1991, Russia was ruled, and now it is partially ruled by America, and a sharp change of course could only occur through an armed uprising (which, incidentally, was in 1993 and was drowned in its own blood).

And now the facts.

So, Putin came to power and began to struggle with the American occupation management system. First of all, he dealt with the question of the Chechen Republic, preventing the collapse of Russia, which was documented in the Khasavyurt agreements signed by A. Lebed. According to them, Chechnya itself could determine its status and sovereignty 3 years after their signing. This means that it would 100% withdraw from the Russian Federation. Try to explain this to other subjects of the federation. Decay.

Secondly, Putin broke off production-sharing agreements, according to which foreign oil companies operating in the territory of the Russian Federation, paid off their expenses at the expense of Russian oil itself. They entered the costs the devil knows that, and Russia, of course, did not get any profit from the extracted oil.
This contract was torn.

And how, do you still think that Putin has put the world behind the scenes ??

[Alex_g23r]

> And how, do you still think that Putin put the world behind the scenes ??

It's not about the world behind the scenes, but about the fact that Education is heading into the abyss, people are getting dull.

[Grishka100watt]

It's about her. I replied to the comment.

[Alexander]

Well, you don’t just have to talk about TVs **. In Russia, 70% of TVs (and plasma, LCD) of the domestic production, however, are licensed.

[Waterfall]

Gluing "made in rush" stickers is not domestic production at all.

[kostella85]

With me in 2008, the plasma TV AELITA exploded right at a meeting dedicated to improving the quality of these TVs !!! (Plasma was Chinese Samsung) Very much after that the meeting revived

[vadimN]

Quote: Alexander

Well, you don’t just have to talk about TVs **. In Russia, 70% of TVs (and plasma, LCD) of the domestic production, however, are licensed.

And here we collect cool cars! Ford, Hyundai, Nissan, GM, VW, Mazda ....
.... ONLY WHAT DOES THE RUSSIAN SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY HAVE ATTITUDE TO THIS? ... only such that yesterday's Russian engineers, having left the shuttle shuttle, stood up as hard workers on conveyors. And what we develop ourselves (AVTOVAZ) - as it was a bucket, so it remains ...

[Normal]

Quote: Grishka100watt

Our thinking is different.

It is obvious.

Quote: Grishka100watt

. I do not seek power.

Similarly.

Quote: Grishka100watt

I wish the country good, and I know that I can’t manage it.

Imagine that not only those who are for the GDP wish the country good. And I will even say more; judging by the reforms carried out under the guise of Putin, critics of his course want the country well more than its supporters.

Quote: Grishka100watt

But I have enough mind to see what is happening and draw conclusions.

Judging by your posts, this is not true.

Quote: Grishka100watt

Russia was lucky to have such a leader.

Here is the confirmation.

Quote: Grishka100watt

As for my athletic performance - well, there’s nothing to laugh at objectively.

Of course. Your athletic performance is worthy of respect. But this is not a bodybuilding site. It’s not funny results, but the fact that you boast about them.

Quote: Grishka100watt

And the fourth: you trolls, stupid initiative tips and Judas.

Quote: Grishka100watt

You fell a little, since you write this.

Quote: Grishka100watt

bother come on yes smelling green work?

Quote: Grishka100watt

I think you go to the plus site to earn yes to drain the negative without an answer. Your place is on a par with bulk and German.

I have no desire to argue with you anymore. For me your identity is clear

[Grishka100watt]

Sorry, I do not want to feed the trololo sitting inside you.

[Normal]

To the previous post.

The above quotes from your posts show that you have no arguments and this is compensated by evaluative statements.
The reception is old and famous. You can also, if not with what to answer, accuse your opponent of trolling:

Quote: Grishka100watt

I do not want to feed the trololo sitting inside you

Do not want - do not Not really wanted. We are too full today You have to go to the rocking chair; there you get better.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Grishka100watt

And your gut will not be thin? And the people will be against it.

The intestines of all are the same, dear Grisha.
Well, if you consider yourself an spokesman for the will of the people .....
Perhaps I will not say anything.

[Grishka100watt]

Well, if you consider yourself an spokesman for the will of the people .....
Perhaps I will not say anything.

It would be nice.
So, have you imagined yourself as such? Where do you live in general? In Russia?

Are you here of your own free will, on the site?

Do you have any idea what to do and whom to put in place of the current president?

Or are you so, go bother and go smelling green to work?

[d.gksueyjd]

Quote: Grishka100watt

Do you have any idea what to do and whom to put in place of the current president?

Kvachkova!

[baltika-18]

Quote: Grishka100watt

Where do you live in general? In Russia?

In the Ivanovo region.

Quote: Grishka100watt

Are you here of your own free will, on the site?

And you see by the will of rock?

Quote: Grishka100watt

Do you have any idea what to do and whom to put in place of the current president?

Well, I suggested myself. At first, few knew Stalin either.

Quote: Grishka100watt

Or are you so, go bother

Sometimes yes.....

Quote: Grishka100watt

yes smelling green work

Well, this is a standard argument for you guys when there is nothing to answer. We are "agent of the State Department", the main thing is louder, so that ........ (Here I paraphrase Pushkin)
"The sovereign Putin noticed us,
And going down to the coffin he blessed ... "

[Grishka100watt]

Well, I suggested myself. At first, few knew Stalin either.

Well, you are not doing that activity then.
Go to deputies and so on and so forth. Well, I will not explain to you, a promising future politician, yes)

Stalin still inserted, but how, without populist slogans nowhere now)

I think you go to the plus site to earn yes to drain the negative without an answer. Your place is on a par with bulk and German.

I have no desire to argue with you anymore. For me, your identity is clear. And yes, I forgot - you are far from Stalin

[baltika-18]

Quote: Grishka100watt

Well, you are not doing that activity then.

I have a funeral home.

Quote: Grishka100watt

Stalin still inserted

Closest to the ideal of a leader.

Quote: Grishka100watt

I think you go to the plus site to earn

Find out what people think.

Quote: Grishka100watt

Your place is on a par with bulk and German.

Well, if you think I’m with them, then you, dear, are among Fursenko, Golikov, Serdyukov.

Quote: Grishka100watt

I have no desire to argue with you anymore

So don’t argue, take it for granted and enjoy.

Quote: Grishka100watt

For me your identity is clear

Well, for me, in principle, too. You can still be corrected, a person who is not completely lost for the country.

Quote: Grishka100watt

And yes, I forgot - you are far from Stalin

Of course not. Everyone is good in the strictly allotted time for him.
It is impossible not to play any role if the game did not assume this role.
You do not know what will happen tomorrow, you are afraid. For you, change, this is the collapse of everything.
A well-functioning life, a feeding trough, some respect in society, in the circle of those with whom you communicate. A comfortable chair after work, slippers, a TV with a computer, a beloved woman nearby. What else is needed? What changes? Everything is good and true.
Petty bourgeoisie ruined many individual individuals.

[dmb]

Guys, what are you, really. The devils got in touch with the Arkhangelsk baby. Moreover, he does not know the rules of decency (it is not customary for strangers to poke around, he also does not read anything from printed materials, except for comments from Putinists like him.) against opponents (working out "greens; friends Nemtsov and Navalny; live in Russia) I'm surprised that the agents of the State Department and Zh-Mna are not mentioned in addition. Does this not remind you of the" police officers "and American" movie heroes "?

[baltika-18]

Quote: dmb

Guys, what are you, right. Contact the devils with the Arkhangelsk baby

Well said.

[Normal]

Quote: dmb

The devils got in touch with the Arkhangelsk baby. Not only was he not aware of the rules of decency (strangers weren’t allowed to poke, he still reads nothing from printed materials except for comments like Putinists.

Greetings, Dmitry.
Well, it’s completely impossible to endure.
At first there was a policeman. Well, it happens ...
Then KaAtlon. These are not stupid. But the first is touchy like a boa constrictor
"- They called it a frog?
-Yes, yes, a frog, and also an earthworm! "(Brought me into the emergency, moderator, for pointing out his flood ) The second is rude and narcissistic. But what to do - the world is not perfect.
Then three-volt. Here, at least take out the saints, but he is at least not touchy, and not vindictive. For this much is forgiven him.
And here you are! Static Grishka from the gym. This is already a bust. Well, you can’t do that ...

[Kaa]

Quote: Normal

But the first is touchy like a boa constrictor
"- They called it a frog?
-Yes, yes, a frog, and also an earthworm! "(Brought me into the emergency, moderator, for pointing out his flood

Found something to be proud of, emergency ... "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU"

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Kaa
Alas, I can’t answer because I don’t see your post. I’m not a moderator.

[Normal]

Kaa
IM proud of? But how can you, BIG BROTHER? This is not my quality, but your flaw.
I can be proud (but I will not) that MY EM is empty, and YOUR EM are your skeletons in your closet. By the way, do you have them there?

[Grishka100watt]

Ah ha haaa))) That's it, hell)))
Support each other, such is your share

[Earthman]

Quote: Grishka100watt

Stalin still inserted, but how, without populist slogans nowhere now)

Grishka, it seems to me you are from neoconspirologists of BER. you can convict me by calling a trololo, but an adherent of KOBy - that's for sure

[k220150]

And without "E-r-roy" nowhere. The horror is not in him, but in us, those who have a bad head - read I.P. Pavlov "On the Russian mind".

[Ustas]

Quote: Tersky

And therefore, one Livanov will leave - the other Livanov will come, whom we will also first meet with applause, and then we will begin to scratch the back of his head ...

not Livanov’s business .... but to those who appoint Livanov’s ..

It’s necessary to leave the whole Cabinet, headed by the Prime Minister.

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Quote: Ustas

It’s necessary to leave the whole Cabinet, headed by the Prime Minister.

It's time.
Only I think that the president will instruct DAMU to form the new cabinet again.
The result is known in advance.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

I applaud standing ... beautiful! said to the point ..

[Rudakov]

Not one, I would put 100 pluses.

[vadimN]

Quote: Tersky

not Livanov’s business .... but to those who appoint Livanov’s ..

Exactly ... remember where Fursenko moved. Right! To the rank of Presidential Advisor on Education. Why wait for a change of course in this matter, if everyone remained in their places, only the names changed. And the course is carried out the same - the destruction of science and education, the lowering of the intellectual level of the Russian population, the inhibition of scientific and technological progress in the country in order to firmly settle in the outskirts of civilization. To pump oil to the west, you do not need a lot of literate ...
These are the facts. And the rest of the word ...

[k220150]

Gnawing sorrowful thoughts - the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Defense, ... Apparently something is wrong in the "conservatory".

[donchepano]

Quote: mark1

What happens if Education Minister Livanov is dismissed? "

It's time to drive

[Z.A.M.]

Quote: donchepano

It's time to drive

Yeah ... like Golikov

Putin has rotation, rotation and rotation again. There is no talk of Medvedev, so - "man".

[Uncle]

Quote: Z.A.M.

About Medvedev and there is no talk, so - "man nothing".

This is the meaning of his mysterious appearance in the Kremlin. He was nothing, but became president.

[Krilion]

one idiot in the government will be less ...

[starshina78]

This is a good optimistic comment about the booze, but the problem still exists, and this problem is not in Fursenko, and not in Livanov, but in the reform of education in general. They are only executors of what the Government intended. And it intended to completely abandon the Soviet model of education, in which we all (who studied in the USSR and after that captured this system) received multilateral knowledge and left the school with specific knowledge in all subjects . Those who wanted to get additional knowledge on subjects of interest to him, then went to electives, and FREE. The teachers had a plan for electives, and they were paid extra for them. At the end of the school (after 8 and 10 classes), full-fledged exams were conducted, on which the knowledge acquired by the student over the years of training was checked. Writings were written, exam papers in mathematics, that is, the student thought. It was not for nothing that Soviet education was considered the best in the world, which was repeatedly proved by students of Soviet schools at international general Olympiads. And most importantly, education was free and affordable. Now they are striving to smoothly switch to paid education from the first grade. That is, there is money, your child learns for a fee according to a special program, which is essentially a revised Soviet program, there is no money, your child studies according to a program where there is one lesson in mathematics per week, one in Russian, one in literature, etc. d. but a lot of physical education and labor training. See the difference in the programs? The trained rich elite is preparing, and the poor poorly educated, but physically strong, trained, the remaining mass is working. Higher education is again paid, and this is again a barrier to getting higher education by the poor, which means that the new education system will prepare boyars and slaves. Do you need this?

[alex_asch]

give Shoigu in the Ministry of Education !!!

[fenix57]

It would be very nice after Livanov to dismiss the entire Cabinet of Ministers. Naturally, led by a "respected" LADY.

[mark1]

DAM skip ahead

[Gari]

A photographer well done over his head as if the horns had grown

[AleksUkr]

Not horns, but a halo of the holy great martyr. Everyone is against him, but he "suffers" for Russian education

[kostella85]

I like the first one in the column, but her breast would be from the third ..........

[INTER]

If sent, it will not be worse. Nowhere else to go!

[albanec]

What happens if the Minister of Education Livanova is dismissed?

I am sure that it will not get worse!

[Iraclius]

"What happens if Education Minister Livanov is dismissed?"

Nothing good will happen. I do not see a single official who is able to take up this position with a positive effect. The collapse of the education system has passed the point of no return. Whoever now stands at the helm, but the chain reaction of decay can no longer be stopped. I am pessimistic. But, alas, the facts are on my side.

[UFO]

Quote: Iraclius

I do not see a single official who is able to take up this position with a positive effect

What candidates have already suggested? Am I overslept something? I am sure that there are worthy ones; there are many smart people in this area.

[Iraclius]

For example? From the scientific community, I do not know a single sensible administrator.
Correct?

[Ivan.]

I think that any honest person will do less harm if he had the opportunity to lead.
And the Minister of Education, whoever leads them, I doubt that there would be freedom of action. I think the situation here and with how the Central Bank, we have no influence.

[ole]

I read everything correctly and somewhere that these are the bison of the Yeltsin team that are reforming the education at the Higher School of Economics, so there will be no sense in changing the terms.

[sergo0000]

Quote: Iraclius

The collapse of the education system has passed the point of no return.

"Education nightmare: Bazarov drowned Mumu!" (Video) trueinform.ru

[sergo0000]

Quote: Iraclius

The collapse of the education system has passed the point of no return.

"Education nightmare: Bazarov drowned Mumu (video)" Pravdainform.ru

[albanec]

I do not see a single official who is able to take up this position with a positive effect.

Eh, again Sergei Kuzhugetovich call to have to

[kostella85]

So he is also an expert in education !!!

[baltika-18]

Quote: albanec

Eh, again Sergei Kuzhugetovich call to have to

Quote: kostella85

So he is also an expert in education !!!

And still in construction ...... Fock at all times of the dock ....

[kostella85]

As they say - a gynecologist !!!

[k220150]

Knight and Cavalier of the Order of Malta ????

[pechv]

It is important not to lose the main goal in particular. And the goal is the complete privatization of education, removing this burden from government agencies. It would be possible if we had at least a percent of 10 education support mechanisms in place in the United States (funds, programs, educational loans). But with our reality - how fast, how fast do we have an educational loan? - it ceases to be funny.
The chief said "To the morgue," which means to the morgue.

[krasin]

Medvedev is a steam locomotive, and Livanova is closing and order !!!

[Alexander]

Where? To hard labor?

[Olego48]

Cool photo, like "a bull with horns", in the subject

[Tersky]

Quote: Tersky

Quote: mark1

And the same as after the resignation of Serdyukov - the directors and rectors will drink for a week.

What the grandmother would whisper, only the author of the article is right

And therefore, one Livanov will leave - the other Livanov will come, whom we will also first meet with applause, and then we will begin to scratch the back of his head ...

not Livanov’s business ....

, and in those who appoint the Livanovs ..

[Ribwort]

Quote: "If a good education is expensive and a person is forced to pay for it, he can take out a loan ..."
And if you can’t ??? The prospect of further debilitation of society is seen more clearly.
What kind of "geniuses" do you need to be so that it would be so easy and in one moment to say everything that you have been able to achieve over the past 70 years: free medicine, education, affordable housing, patriotic and moral education of youth ... Gentlemen, maybe I'm not objective? Besides money, does our government care about anything? What do we have in return from these ghouls? And why do we need it?

[kostella85]

Quote: Ribwort

Quote: "If a good education is expensive and a person is forced to pay for it, he will be able to take out a loan ..." And if he cannot ??? The prospect of further moronization of society is seen more and more clearly.

Everything is clear here - artificial selection !!!! There is a lot of money (Quote: "If a good education is expensive) - the children will be educated, there is no money - the children are dear to the janitors !!!!

[Uncle]

Quote: Ribwort

Gentlemen, maybe I'm not objective? In addition to money, does our government care at all?

I agree, only the problem is even deeper, if only money bothered the minds of those in power, they don’t think about money at that level.
Here was the story: [i] [i] After three hours of walking around the exhibition of the MAKS-2011 air show, the Prime Minister wanted ice cream. Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, walking next to him, asked to buy him, promising to return 60 rubles later.

The head of the Russian Technologies State Corporation Sergey Chemezov also wanted ice cream. The prime minister gave the seller 300 rubles, a voice was heard from behind: "Just give change." However, the seller did not have time to return 120 rubles.

“I didn’t want to change 500 rubles,” explained Mr. Ivanov to the desire to borrow.

“Fisted man Sergey Borisovich,” said Vladimir Putin. - After all, I received a pay yesterday. [/ I]
The fate of Russia is there! Who are they? How many take on themselves?

[Normal]

Quote: Uncle

How many take on themselves?

A lot ... Oh, a lot! They have entrusted themselves and bear ... They will not give this burden to anyone an unprecedented responsibility

[Arberes]

If this unfortunate bureaucrat is fired, the state system will save itself from a rare idiot! Justify your position.
Probably everyone remembers how in DAGESTAN about three months ago several schoolgirls started going to school in hijabs? A scandal with religious overtones flared up. If some of the students begin to go to state school in Islamic attire and sit separately from other classmates, then personally, in my understanding, is this already a split in society on religious and national grounds? (This is my personal point of view).
The school principal stops letting these schoolgirls go to school, the situation is heating up !!!
And what does this rank minister LIVANOV do? HE publicly states that he is not at all against schoolgirls coming to school in hijabs !!!
HE actually poured live water on the first trial shoots of our split with YOU friends of society!
But what is interesting, he did not even realize with his brains that he was opening a PANDORA box! GDP to him the next day on the Kremlin carpet "stifling" applied-probably?
AS THE CLASSIC SAID "HE IS REDUCED BY MENTALITY", and I don't even want to comment on his impact on the RAS!

[Ribwort]

Quote: Arberes

AS THE CLASSIC SAID "HE IS REDUCED BY MIND OF MIND"

And here is one more thing:
"At the Academy of Sciences
sits Prince Dunduk,
They say, not by rank
Dunduk is such an honor ...
Why is he sitting?
Because .. there is a poop! "
Pushkin

[SPQR1977]

Well, not in Dagestan, it was, but in the Stavropol Territory.

[Arberes]

Quote: SPQR1977

Well, not in Dagestan, it was, but in the Stavropol Territory.

Yes you are right dear!
I apologize!
STAVROPOLIE!

[Shkodnik65]

Probably everyone remembers how in DAGESTAN about three months ago several schoolgirls started going to school in hijabs?

Correction - it was in Stavrapolye. But they were going to leave (so that the children could safely wear a zhizhab to school) in Dagestan. Well, the case, I agree, is out of the ordinary. In general, then Livanov was very similar to sorry ... tutu. Looking at him is a continuous gag reflex.

[Uncle]

Quote: Arberes

But interestingly, he did not even understand with his own brains that he was opening a PANDORA box!

Or maybe this is a calculated move? Does the minister stoop to comment on the statements of a teacher from a mountain village? Against the background of the flooding of Russia with "Muslims" from Asia, this is water for the mill of the split, as you rightly noted. Why are "Muslims" in quotation marks? By the fact that they are mostly illiterate peasants who do not understand what they believe in and cover up their selfish interests with Islam. No offense, Christians have plenty of them.

[d.gksueyjd]

YOU are absolutely right, the Constitution of the Russian Federation is violated by "democrats" constantly and in all spheres. If you want to wear Islamic dress, it is your right to go, but not to a state school, but to a religious one. The same goes for 40 hours on a working day, at first there are small changes - 30 minutes earlier for preparing the work place and 30 minutes later for cleaning the work place. places. Now - not being afraid of anything 12-hour workday (for the same salary), the motivation is the same everywhere: "If you don't like it, quit." Maybe it's time to "fire" all this "elite" and live according to the Constitution?

[aszzz888]

However, the minister is still one! I'm talking about his troubles in relation to the RAS. Livanov was also not in the project, when the brightest heads of academics who received a penny, not today's mummers, but our DESERVED in their laboratories and institutes gave the world this ...

[Uncle]

Quote: aszzz888

the brightest heads of academicians who received a penny, not today's mummers

I had a visitor, offered some services, and took out a business card, I read "Academician", I look at him, a sneak, I laughed so much that the meeting went to pieces. I ask, are you an academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences? No, some newly minted academy, but where did it come from? Why is she needed?

[kostella85]

Probably RANS (Russian Academy of Natural Sciences), where you want to give such ksivs, remember at least "academician" Petrik (who is interested in google, amusing type)

[lecturer]

Dmitry Livanov about Russian science:
"I believe that such a form of organization of science in the 21st century is hopeless. It will not live, it is not viable. But it does live with us ... What depends on me, I will do in order to change this situation." -
- A pig under the centuries-old Oak
I have eaten enough acorns to the full;
After eating, she slept under it;
Then, having grown up, I got up
And to dig a snout from Oak roots has become.
"It hurts the tree,"
The raven says to her from Dubu:
"If you bare the roots, it can dry out."
"Let it dry," says the Pig:
"It doesn't bother me at all;
I see little use in it; .........................

[Belogor]

When Fursenko is not in power, then there will be no different Lebanese. Indeed, in fact, all these innovations in education are managed by Fursenko, although not publicly. Livanov is only a performer

[Normal]

Quote: Belogor

managed by Fursenko, although not publicly. Livanov is only a performer

Well, then you stopped. Continue your thought.

Livanov - Fursenko - Putin - ???

Or am I wrong?

Whose will does Putin mediate with the mediation of Livanov and Fursenko? Here is the main question

[Uncle]

Quote: Normal

Livanov - Fursenko - Putin - ???

Do you think Putin is the last resort? In this world, the last resort is one - a fierce peacekeeper, whose name we do not remember the stench.

[Normal]

Quote: Uncle

Do you think Putin is the last resort?

Well of course not. About that and is written.

Quote: Uncle

In this world, the last resort is one - a fierce peacekeeper,

Undoubtedly! But let's not climb so high (sink so low)
I’m interested in two or three steps higher (in rank) of GDP. Those whose order he fulfills.
Or do you think that all the "reforms", about which words of good can not be said, are his, Putin's ideas?

[Uncle]

I believe that the "reforms" are a kind of tribute to the West, their emissaries and our traitors are very strong, sometimes it seems that the government consists of only enemies of Russia. Although it is reliably known that there are Christians (not only on the basis of baptism) and patriots there.

[Karabin]

Quote: Uncle

Although it is reliably known that there are Christians (not only upon baptism) and patriots.

Judging by the actions of the government, they were trotted out.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Uncle

Do you think Putin is the last resort? In this world, the last resort is one - a fierce peacekeeper,

Dima, and you are not so far from the truth, as it might seem at first glance.

[d.gksueyjd]

Fursenko and then, "who pays, the girl dances." Fursenko and Serdyukov, that they appointed themselves?

[Black]

The kaledoscope is twisted ... the pictures are different .... the filling is one !!!

[SPACE]

Education should be free! This is a social elevator for everyone. Education can not be bought, you can buy a diploma, and this is an elevator for morons.
ZY Where is Putin looking? "the retinue makes the king" Serdyukov, Lebanese, Chubais ... these people are like labels ... The people look and draw conclusions ...

[Canep]

This is his (in the photo) a halo or horn. I think horns. Why destroy the Soviet education system?

[Petrovich-2]

It is already clear that Livanov is not a minister, or rather, the worst of all.
Education he ruins. It is clear.
What, in figs, loans? Previously, education was normal because on budgetary places the competition was on average from 3 to 15 people per place, that is, the BEST were SELECTED, and were not afraid to SEPARATE them due to poor performance.
And now the system of "savings" of paid / commercial students operates in universities. Try to deduct this - tomorrow you yourself will be let down on the deduction. After all, a commercial student brings money to the university (judging by the salaries, not to the university, but to the rector). Thus, we do not save students, but their laziness and unwillingness to learn. These are the staff that laugh in the face of the teachers, like, you won't do anything anyway, and will come to our economy, to production. What kind of production! They can only trade. which ones are engineers? Doctors (50 thousand medical errors per year)? Pilots?
Down with Livanov and people like Livanov!
Medvedev should have thought for a long time, and not act like a person covering enemies of the people.

[JonnyT]

The hellish plan of the State Department to corrupt our young generation is set in motion precisely through the "reform of education". Gentlemen ministers "Thank you for the reform of abrasion"!

[Masterzserg]

Yes, maybe not the State Department! An educated person has increased freethinking. The mass of educated is difficult to manage, inspire. Heating dumber people, the easier it is to download them in unison, to make them do what they need. The flip side of this medal is that the minds of stupid masses can be taken over by those who are not in power. Take them to the swamp, for example. Make the slogan like "crooks and thieves" shout.
In the United States, the percentage of educated people is less than even now in Russia, and the result is a programmed society that considers itself the freest, even though the policeman can, without giving any reason, put them on their knees and undress to the goal. Another example about Americans, he told how not the weird Americanist Posner, how they forced people to smoke in the USA in droves. They made smoking through the media stupidly not fashionable. Individualists, who are most often smart people, care little about the opinion of the majority, fashion, and the dull mass is very important, this is their guide to life. Maybe that's why there is such an active debilitation of society in our country?

[DeerIvanovich]

I hope that Livanov, Chubais, Medvedev and other compradors will soon fly, not in vain for the first two, more precisely, the structures in one or another existence associated with these two "individuals" are being checked by the Accounts Chamber ...
not so long ago there were checks of structures related to Bilalov ... not for nothing that he is now sitting out in a German resort.

[sanyabasik]

Quote: DeerIvanovich

I hope that Livanov, Chubais, and Medvedev will fly soon

But it looks like the Accounts Chamber will "fly" in the person of Stepashin ..

[DeerIvanovich]

Yes, it’s also a long time to shake it up: instead of collecting information on Bilalov, they started banal raiding.

[kostella85]

Quote: DeerIvanovich

instead of collecting information on Bilalov

On the Belalovs it was impossible, their cousin Zumrud, wife of A. Dvorkovich !!!!

[DeerIvanovich]

from the accounting chamber or what?
as we without you know about the close mafia ties between Bilalov and Dvorkovich.
it would be better to work honestly, and not raiding engaged.

[kostella85]

Quote: sanyabasik

But it looks like the Accounts Chamber will "fly" in the person of Stepashin ..

Taburetkin is already tired of flying, but everything can’t land ....

Ginger, if removed, they will find a new position, and certainly with a raise, since MOST effective !!!

[Normal]

Quote: kostella85

Taburetkin is already tired of flying, but everything can’t land ....

+ + +

Over the gray plain of the sea.
Proudly flies .... fat penguin!
Black lightning similar ...
He soars for the sixth day ...
He himself no longer remembers
How he managed to rise to the sky ...

[kostella85]

By the way, right now I was watching the news, so Shoigu said that Oboronservis was acting behind Serdyukov's back .........

So that everything is fine ........

[Normal]

Quote: kostella85

"Oboronservis" acted behind Serdyukov's back ........

Well, the stump is clear! How else? After all, Medvedev and all the other liberals are acting, and Westerners are in power behind the back of a statesman of GDP.

[Karabin]

Quote: Normal

After all, Medvedev and all the other liberals are acting, and Westerners are in power behind the back of a statesman of GDP.

“Devoured” and “Obscured” Anatoly Serdyukov ... (C)
"Medved" and "shoddy" Vladimir Putin.

[sanyabasik]

And how quickly we forgot Fursenko .. But this one is no worse, but no better. Maybe it's not the ministers, but those who appoint them? From the first, then hundreds of presidential reserves? Imagine who in the second hundred ..

[120352]

Good photo. Horns to his face!
A new concept of education is needed, then the ministers will not look like idiots. Higher and secondary specialized education is one thing, science is another, but secondary general education is a completely independent field of activity.

[Suhov]

What happens if the Minister of Education Livanova is dismissed?

Earth from orbit will definitely not come off!

[Suhov]

What happens if the Minister of Education Livanova is dismissed?

Earth from orbit will definitely not come off!
[/ Quote]

[SPQR1977]

It is necessary to work off 200 million dollars even under the "Fursenka" issued by Gayrope for educational reform (

[Ivan.]

"Can you imagine crowds of employers repaying their potential employees for their education loans?"
- it’s easy, and I don’t envy the helpless slave who will work for them.
"It is noteworthy that the" vocal "girls were" excited "by the news not about the oddities of reforming the education system in Russia, but the total implementation of the Antiplagiat system in Russian universities. This implementation, according to FEMEN, could provoke widespread harassment of female students by university teachers. "
- so that's where the sabaka rummaged they are ignored but they want to! And even their regular half-naked does not help the lack of femininity. But seriously, this is a fact confirming their nature to NPOs, it remains only to find and block funding and we will not hear about them anymore.

[Standard Oil]

We all say that it can't be worse, but how it can and how it can. By the way, someone said that the laws should be named after their publishers, the country should know its "heroes".

[Masterzserg]

"The Ministry of Defense was recognized as a victim in the case of large-scale embezzlement at Oboronservis. According to the head of the military department Sergei Shoigu, his predecessor Anatoly Serdyukov misled. The ministry sued Yevgenia Vasilyeva, Yekaterina Smetanova, and Maxim Zakutailo - for a total of 277 million rubles.
The lawsuit of the defense department includes only one of a dozen episodes - the sale of the 31st State Design Institute for Special Construction (GPISS), which designs facilities in the interests of the country's security. Sergei Shoigu wrote a statement to the Chairman of the Investigative Committee of Russia (TFR) Alexander Bastrykin. "

Now he will sell a couple of buildings of "ineffective" universities and you can retire, for the first time that's enough. Well, and then he will be recognized as a victim. I have suffered so much from luxury and millions ... poor thing ...

[lecturer]

Quote: Canep

This is his (in the photo) a halo or horn. I think horns. Why destroy the Soviet education system?

ANSWER:
In that office, labor was slavish,
and the payment is ridiculous,
but goats have a womanish character -
outrageously submissive ...

Labor is joy! But annoyingly
that the office was flourishing
and the goat was very greedy
and paid those goats a little.

The goat looked good,
but the scoundrel of the purest water -
he paid more alone
and another smaller goat ...

[irka_65. irina]

That one reformer was neither good nor bad, and this one is no better. Until all the current "enhancers" of our life have left their posts in straight lines, we should not expect any improvements.

[krez-74]

Now, if they start to plant such people, then it will happen, UNIVERSAL BLESSING!

[Humpty]

What will happen? No one will notice.

[Shkodnik65]

After reading the article and the posts, I thought about who is in charge of the country itself. He went through the ministers (led by the Prime Minister) and realized: NOBODY DOES NOT LEAD THE COUNTRY. Because those people who are in power (including those with iPhones in their hands) have only one working body - LANGUAGE.

[Normal]

Quote: Shkodnik65

and understood:

Anecdote from the time of the presidency of DAM:

Lenin proved that the country can be controlled.

Stalin proved that one person can rule a country.

Khrushchev proved that not only Stalin could rule the country.

Brezhnev proved that a sick person can rule the country.

Yeltsin proved that a country can be ruled by a bukh.

Putin has proven that anyone can rule a country.

Medvedev proved that the country can not be controlled at all ....

[optimist]

Another question for the Putinoids: do you still believe that the Livanovs, Serdyukovs, Skrynniks, etc. "bad", and -wp, which puts them on the appropriate posts, "good"? It seems to me that even the most finished doe is able to understand the elementary truth: "What is the priest, so is the arrival!"

[kostella85]

Just before the appointment they are more good, and besides relatives, well, after that they simply overlooked ........

[folds]

no, after - "they were misled" :)

[Larus]

What difference does it make who sits in his place, all the same it will be the same mediocrity and lack of professionalism, because others are not kept there, that would not stand out against the background of the bureaucrats

[Normal]

... the dog is buried somewhat elsewhere.

Well, of course! Who would doubt that...
At a meeting in Elista, GDP said so yesterday; they say that I alone work efficiently, but the government and local authorities do not. Scared that he would fire everyone ...

[Karabin]

Quote: Normal

At a meeting in Elista, GDP said so yesterday; they say that I alone work efficiently, but the government and local authorities do not. Scared that he would fire everyone ...

And in the evening, his secretary Peskov told everyone that the president was generally pleased with the work of the government. The parrot is a little and good.

[folds]

I sometimes look at the leadership of the country - and somehow all their activities look strange. Illogical. No reforms will work if there are no competent, educated and hardworking executors of these reforms in the country. Everything that you want to change in the country - you need to start with education. From kindergartens, from elementary school. To establish such salaries there, conditions so that the crowds of people who want to work with children will allow them to select the best for this work, and through them to educate new generations of citizens in the spirit you need. Use the same Western media products as a good example - look, you’ll become - you’ll watch home2 all your life, and there will be nothing interesting in your life. And in order for life to be interesting, you need to study, strive for personal growth and development of your country. No modernization with innovation will give anything to a country inhabited by stupid, uneducated consumer goods. No effective management will build a country's defense if the citizens of this country are not ready to fight for it, to give their lives. Everything that is needed for the existence of a country, a state is laid from a very early age. And we are putting education on commercial footing, not realizing that this is the most important strategic resource. And irreplaceable - uneducated teachers will not be able to teach children anything.

[Z.A.M.]

Quote: plis

if the country does not have competent, educated and hardworking performers

Educated? What for? Astronomy has long been canceled. Why is she ... 21st century.
Better like this -"Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin ordered to accelerate the church building program to put into operation one Orthodox church per month. He stated this at a meeting of the board of trustees of the Fund for the Support of the Construction of Temples, Kommersant reports.
I have nothing against faith ... But somehow ... bust.

[kostella85]

In our Kurgan, churches are being built right at the factories, they will buy a new machine - they’ll call the priest to light (this is the kind of savings on the discussion staff !!!!), screwdrivers will soon begin to light !!!!

[d.gksueyjd]

"Religion, opium for the people" Uneducated, intoxicated by religion, easier to manage - the main policy of the "democrats"

[Karabin]

Quote: kostella85

buy a new machine - the name of the priest to light

We had an incident. They invited the priest to consecrate a combine harvester. The next day, the harvester in the field burned out.

[Ivan.]

And the harvester was not after yesterday? Maybe the "holy" harvester just couldn't bear the fumes?

[d.gksueyjd]

"The fish starts to stink from the head!" Yes, the ranks of successful reformers are expanding significantly: Serdyukov, Lebanese, Skrypnik, Chubais, Medvedev, and these are just those idiotic figures, "favorites of the people," who were reported by the media. How many unknown "heroes" are still in the shadows. It's time to change director!

[Semyon Albertovich]

It is necessary to dismiss this Medvedev government altogether - only talk, but no business (as they collected tribute in the housing and communal services, they collect it by doing nothing, etc. etc.).

[Normal]

Quote: Semyon Albertovich

It is necessary to dismiss this Medvedev government

Yeah ... And instruct Medvedev to form a new one ...
Here are the ways they constantly ask a question; Who. if not Putin?
You can also ask; who, if not Medvedev?
Dvorkovich? Shoigu? Or maybe right away ... SERDYUKOV? Or in the extreme case of Golikov? No, better Shuvalov ...
Ну how are the prospects?

[Hey]

Today, Medvedev will report on the work of the government in the Duma. The deputies specifically want to raise a question about Livanov, about his resignation. And I won’t be surprised that there will be an answer about an effective minister.

[SEM]

Is that in the picture Horn on the head ???

[Normal]

Quote: SEM

Is that in the picture Horn on the head ???

No, these are angel wings ....
They just grew up there ... Ecology, electric fields, nitrates. Well, in general, a mutation is ...

[fenix57]

Quote: MUD

Today, Medvedev will report on the work of the government in the Duma

, Has already reported and this is what he gave: "The government has a vision of what needs to be done to rectify the economic situation, but these measures require wide discussion, said Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, reporting on Wednesday to State Duma deputies" more details: http: //rus.ruvr.ru/2013_04_17/Medvedev-u-pravitelstva-est-videnie-chto
-nuzhno-predprinjat-dlja-vipravlenija-jekonomicheskoj-situacii /

[Goldmitro]

How hard and for a long time (like a giraffe) it comes to our power that a person is NOT IN HIS PLACE, he does not correspond to his position and he must be URGENTLY invited TO EXIT, along with his concept of education! WHY is it necessary for a person to "twist", as they say, more than a horse to be removed? Why is it necessary to wait for the damage from the activity of an official to reach MILLIONS and BILLIONS of rubles and that this activity, as they say, "does not go into any gate"? And this happens everywhere! Where does such patience and tolerance come from? Maybe the authorities believe that all of these and others do not exist? NOT TRUE! THERE ARE normal people, you just need to give them a way, decisively clearing the state structures from the mafia liberal-market trash who has entrenched there since the Gorbachev-Yeltsin times, and this must be done quickly, otherwise the mafia swamp tends to suck in!

[albi77]

If they dismiss Livanov and will be engaged in normal education (restoration) ... then the next in line will probably be medicine .... although Golikova was removed there .. but I’d think it would be worth looking at what Golikova and Fursenko were doing the previous years.

[d.gksueyjd]

Golikova was far from the worst leader for the entire period of development of "democracy" in the Russian Federation. If she had funding, like the thief Serdyukov, then there would be no complaints about her at all.

[Iraclius]

And Medvedko in his speech (now watching) defended Livanov. The question is - why are we all going broke? Serdyukov, bleat, effective manager, and Livanov, bleat, outgoing minister and not a ruble, so that everyone likes.

[kostella85]

Also looked past the eye !!!! Then I watched the comments on the RBC channel, there were experts, when they heard that "there was no state money in Cyprus" just oh .. stunned .... In general, this Mersky iPhone operator, constantly piz ... cheating, it's good to forget the word "innovation" started quietly ...

[AleksUkr]

17 April 14: 11
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev did not support the proposal of the deputies to dismiss Education Minister Dmitry Livanov, RIA Novosti reports.

“I do not think that you expect from me that I agree with this. I will say one thing: the minister, of course, this is not the ruble, so that everyone likes it, ”said Medvedev, answering a question from the Liberal Democratic Party deputy Igor Lebedev.

According to the Prime Minister, there are a number of posts in the government that are called "execution". Among them, he named the posts of ministers of education and health.

And we argue that the spears are broken. And I will give it to everyone. I myself have decided ..........................

[cumastra1]

Great photo! + I directly caught the content of the human soul. And not euthanasia of education, but a quartering!

[Apollo]

regarding the title and content of the article.

Yes, nothing will happen, the entire government, headed by the prime minister, will resign, with the exception of the ministers of the power bloc, while Russia will breathe a sigh of relief.

Vladimir Putin threatens to dissolve the government

At a private meeting with ministers in Kalmykia, the president said he was inclined to dismiss the Cabinet of Ministers.


At the disposal of Life News was a sensational video from the closed part of the meeting of the head of state with ministers and governors, which was held on Tuesday evening in Elista and was devoted to the problems of resettlement of residents of dilapidated and emergency housing.
Vladimir Putin, not embarrassed in expressions, criticized members of the government and regional leaders for their sluggishness in implementing the May decrees, in which his election promises are enshrined.
The head of state stated that if the government and governors do not improve, they will have to part with them. And he tried to set the officials to work.
If in the presence of the press the president only gently criticized the heads of the regions for failing to meet the deadlines for resettlement and failure to complete the relevant programs on time, then when the journalists left, Putin arranged a real debriefing.
The President reminded his subordinates that the May decrees should be under special control. They contain the election promises of the head of state - raising salaries in the social sphere, eliminating queues in kindergartens or minimizing them, as well as relocating the emergency housing stock.

- How we are working?! The quality of work is negligible. We do everything superficially. If we work like that, we won’t do a damn thing! And if we work more persistently and professionally, we will do it, ”Putin began the rout. - Let's improve the quality of our work.

- This (execute orders. - Ed.) Must be done! - said the president. - If we do not, we will have to admit that either I am not working efficiently, or you are all working poorly and you need to leave! I draw your attention to the fact that today I am inclined to the second option! I think this is understandable. That there were no illusions.

The meeting was attended by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak, Minister of Economic Development Andrei Belousov, Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov, Director of the Ministry of Regional Development Igor Slyunyaev, Director General of the State Corporation - Housing and Utilities Reform Support Fund Konstantin Tsitsin, Director General of the Federal Housing Development Promotion Fund Alexander Braverman, Director General of the Agency for Housing Mortgage lending Alexander Semenyaka, envoy Vladimir Ustinov, as well as the heads of the republics of Buryatia, Kalmykia and the governors of the Tula and Astrakhan regions stei and others.

[Apollo]

this is the video

[media=http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0kI7RJ3j3M4/mqdefault.jpg]

[Apollo]

this is the video

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Quote: Apollon

this is the video

Dear Apollon. Do you believe that this is not PR?
He is being shot at point blank; he is looking directly at the person shooting at the beginning of the video and not seeing it? That's all ... This is from a series of randomly found amphoras.

I especially liked the fact that it works efficiently, but everyone else does not.
The whole system is not keeping up, but Putin alone is keeping up.
Although ... there was a proviso "I tend to ne ... to the second option ..." That's right, Vladimir Vladimirovich, more and more people are inclined to the first option.

[kostella85]

Quote: Normal

He is being shot at point blank; he is looking directly at the person shooting at the beginning of the video and not seeing it?

To prevent such excesses from happening, a red flashlight is on on the TV cameras in front when the recording is in progress ..... Well, in a fit of "righteous anger" I didn't notice ...... By the way, in the news "the president spoke positively about the meeting between the prime minister and the deputies."

[Garrin]

Quote: Normal

He is being shot at point blank; he is looking directly at the person shooting at the beginning of the video and not seeing it? That's all ... This is from a series of randomly found amphoras.

I also drew attention to this. And what were the presidential guards looking at at that time? How is he filmed with a "hidden camera"? It turns out that the president is at the level of a bribe-taker who was quietly removed by phone.

[Apollo]

Quote: Normal

Do you believe that this is not PR?

Good evening Vladimir Alas, this is not PR.

Dmitry Peskov criticized Life News for publishing a video with Putin
A spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Peskov, called the publication of Life News on Vladimir Putin ethically unacceptable. Today the site published a video in which the Russian president criticized officials. The video was recorded at the closed part of the meeting of the president with members of the government and governors in Elista .........
“The published material, as follows from the words of the president himself, related to the closed part of the meeting. We always assume that journalists who work in the Kremlin pool have very wide access to information. At the same time, they listen to requests when it is necessary to work behind closed doors, ”Peskov noted.
Representatives of the presidential administration will contact the leadership of Life News and demand their explanation about the publication of the video, Peskov noted.

“What is published, said in the closed part, is outrageous and unacceptable from an ethical point of view. We mean in the near future to contact the management of the publication in order to request an explanation from them, ”said Peskov.
http://russian.rt.com/article/7436

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Quote: Apollon

Good evening, Vladimir Alas, this is not PR.

Dmitry Peskov criticized Life News for publishing a video with Putin

Good evening, Apollon.
"I am of course wildly sorry," but believe Peskov ?! Dismiss ....
Then it’s better to trust Putin as a higher authority.
And since I don’t have faith in GDP and never have (I have described the reasons more than once), I can’t believe his spokesperson in principle. Peskov’s position itself implies the ability and duty to lie, how to breathe - easily and without thinking. Then they hold.

[Volkhov]

Why are you so worried-this is not even Putin. Take the shoot with Merkel and other leaders and compare ... look younger counterparts, slightly different hair - this is a movie with a theater.
By the number of doubles, Pu is comparable to Stalin and also sends them to pioneers and retirees, to an empty talking room ...
I wonder where the original was. Stalin personally inspected samples of equipment, but there was a trip to the Caspian ...

[Northerner]

Good afternoon! Unfortunately, there is some bad news. Pakhan Livanova, who also covers another abomination, officially announced that he did not see the need for Livanov's resignation! Here is such a hello from Dimon to all Russians (Slavs)!
P.S. If the puppeteers decided that history and education are the destiny of the elect and can only be with the chosen people, their puppets act like that, uprooting everything sacred from our education, our culture, our identity so that we don’t have anything of our own!
Yours!

[Karabin]

Quote: Northerner

Here is such a hello from Dimon to all Russians (Slavs)!

If the Russians (Slavs) will continue to consider that this is only from Dimon, and Vovan should not be taken into account, then really

Quote: Northerner

we had nothing of our own!

[d.gksueyjd]

While the next "reformer" was being discussed, Medvedev refused to dismiss Livanov, the conclusion is that Medvedev's resignation is necessary. The people who are not indifferent to the fate of their children and grandchildren should go to rallies with one slogan - Medvedev's complete resignation. UNTIL IT'S NOT TOO LATE!

[Fox]

and I’m for Lebanon! and then here on the forum everyone is smart, read, write ... they know how to COMBINE, stsuki ... and our state needs stupid cattle who can only mumble. so what? is the government worthy of your education? made a choice.

[Northerner]

Quote: Fox

and I’m for Lebanon! and then here on the forum everyone is smart, read, write ... they know how to COMBINE, stsuki ... and our state needs stupid cattle who can only mumble. so what? is the government worthy of your education? made a choice.

Fox Is that a banter? If yes, then

[darksoul]

The choice of education ministers scares ... from time to time they are getting worse and worse ... who is next?

[Gorchakov]

Livanov will resign only after Medvedev .... But Medvedev, it feels a long time sent to us ... Probably until the country is completely seized ....

[Karabin]

Quote: Gorchakov

.A Medvedev, it feels a long time sent to us ...

Who! Martians?

[I'm Russian]

Dimon definitely doesn’t work for Russia. And he receives his salary together with Red Tolik at the State Department cash desk.

[darksoul]

The red cockroach is a completely separate matter, as in the old fairy tale about the red cockroach... the most tenacious one turned out to be

[Garrin]

Quote: darksoul

The red cockroach is a completely separate matter, as in the old fairy tale about the red cockroach... the most tenacious one turned out to be

They just reported on the news that a search is being carried out at the Skolkovo office in Moscow.

[Enot-poloskun]

Bismarck said in the 19th century that a German schoolteacher won the Franco-Prussian War.

In the 20th century, after Gagarin's flight, Americans began restructuring the education system, copying the best from the Soviet education system.

Someone calculated that 25% of the leading scientific specialists in “Silicon Valley” in the United States came from the USSR.

And now?

Ass.

Education and science breathe. They won't die. But they hang out - like one well-known substance in an ice hole.

Yes, there are improvements. But there are a lot of problems. In schools, in universities, in research institutes... I know firsthand, because I work in a biotechnology company (private) and I have to interact with scientists.

Unfortunately, Livanov's resignation will practically not help.

I believe that it is necessary to revive the Soviet system of science and education, to increase the salaries of researchers and teachers MANY TIMES, so that the words “teacher” and “scientist” are not synonymous with the words “beggar” and “loser.”

We urgently need to attract young people. Create state support mechanisms aimed at solving the housing issue. For example, if you come to work as a teacher or researcher, get an apartment. In 10-15 years it will be owned. And if you mess up or change your job profile, give it back!


But at the same time we need to fight corruption. Seriously. At all levels.

[Pinochet000]

Quote: Enot-poloskun

Unfortunately, Livanov’s resignation will practically not help

Yes, you are right, he completed his task, or rather completed it, after Fursenko, like Serdyukov before leaving... he destroyed the system, now we need to rebuild it...

[Egoza]

It's high time to bring back the Soviet education system! she was and remains the best in the world. And many countries, including capitalist ones, have adopted and are adopting it. England, Japan, USA... True, then everything was free and this is precisely what does not suit the current “managers” in this system.
But education is the foundation on which new technologies and science can be developed. If there is no education, EVERYTHING will collapse!

[Enot-poloskun]

But what I agree with Livanov is that the academies of sciences need to be reformed.

Yes, science in Russia is not university, but academic. Focused on institutions. See help below.

But, in my opinion, a number of academies are simply superfluous. For example, the Russian Agricultural Academy.

I think it is necessary to merge the academies into one. Or - merge the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Russian Academy of Agricultural Sciences into a single whole.

Academies are now a sinecure. Scientists at research institutes vegetate, and academics receive preferences and grants.


REFERENCE:

The Russian Academy of Sciences (RAN) is a state academy of sciences, the highest scientific organization of the Russian Federation, a leading center for fundamental research in the field of natural and social sciences. The main goal of the Russian Academy of Sciences is to organize and conduct fundamental research aimed at obtaining new knowledge about the laws of development of nature, society, man and contributing to the technological, economic, social and spiritual development of Russia. The Russian Academy of Sciences is a non-profit scientific organization created in the form of a state academy of sciences and performing important constitutional and public tasks to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia (preamble of the Constitution of the Russian Federation) and freedom of scientific creativity (Article 44 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation)[1].

In total, as of March 2013, the Academy has about 500 scientific institutions and more than 55 thousand scientific employees, including 507 academicians and 751 corresponding members.

The Russian Academy of Agricultural Sciences (Russian Agricultural Academy) is a state academy of sciences, which was created by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of January 30, 1992 No. 84 on the basis of the Russian Agricultural Academy and the All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences named after V.I. Lenin (VASKhNIL).

President of the Russian Agricultural Academy (from 1990 to the present) - Gennady Romanenko. The first vice-president is Vladimir Fisinin. Currently, the academy has 9 industry branches, the task of which is to coordinate the work of research institutions of the Russian Agricultural Academy, universities and other organizations. The departments include more than 200 research institutions (SRIs). Departments organize research in the relevant field of science; participate in the development and implementation of research programs; coordinate and control the activities of institutions, enterprises, and organizations that are part of them.

The Russian Academy of Medical Sciences (abbr. RAMS) is one of the branch state academies of sciences of the Russian Federation, a scientific center whose goal is to coordinate fundamental research in the field of medicine. It was created in 1944 under the People's Commissariat of Health as the Academy of Medical Sciences of the USSR. In 1992 it received its current status.

[Vtel]

Medved said in the Duma, whatever you might think, but since Livanov is being scolded, it follows that he is working. True, without saying who. Well, it’s clear that it’s not on us. What an interesting real boast he has, probably some kind of Zuckerman.

[Alex_g23r]

>What an interesting real boast he has, probably some kind of Zuckerman.
More like Stsukerman.

[fenix57]

Quote: Fox

the government has made its choice.

I apologize, but the choice was made by the LADY, and he is not the final authority.

[Karabin]

Quote: fenix57

the choice was made by the LADY, and he is not the final authority.

You are the last resort to write. And then suddenly she is “misled.”

[wostok]

In front and with songs, to the feudal system. Why does the master need educated vassals?

[Volkhov]

Everyone criticizes Livanov, but he is partly right - science has turned into a mafia and does not fulfill its function - complete incompetence compared to the USA, not to mention the Reich - not changing anything is a guarantee of the destruction of Russia.
Education has been ruined since Soviet times by the total requirement for diplomas for employment - because of this, crowds of ordinary people go to college, although they only need “credentials” to get a job in a government agency, and reduce the level and availability of education. You just need to cancel the requirement for diplomas for officials and managers, and careerists will free up places in universities for those who need knowledge - the budget will be saved and access for “peasants” will improve.

[aleksandr.k]

These are the kind of bastards that Mr. Putin protects.

[valokordin]

Quote: aleksandr.k

These are the kind of bastards that Mr. Putin protects.

I watched Medvedev’s report in the Duma and Livanov’s grinning face and understood that they were all in a conspiracy against our country.

[valokordin]

added a comment and what

[Tartary]

However, all the Twitter trends and speeches by shirtless girls are one thing, but the collection of signatures by State Duma deputies for the resignation of an ineffective minister is quite another.

A good chest obviously cannot be called a torso...
On the other hand, are the girls from “Femen” also sadists when they show everyone who is not lazy, not their BREASTS, but a mediocre TORSO????????

- “Yes-ah-ah,” said Little Red Riding Hood, throwing her girl’s breasts far over her shoulder... (c)

This means that the dog is buried in a slightly different place...
Author Volodin Alexey

Most likely this is the case, if this dog rummaged around in the wrong place...
It is not even known whether the whole dog is buried or its boiled bones...
But if the “cook” does not lie to us, we will soon learn about it from the Ministry of Internal Affairs reports on corruption...

[воронов]

In his department, the Investigative Committee is initiating criminal cases against several “teachers” and his associates, in which Livanov will be involved as a witness.

[habalog]

Managers do not manage people. And they control events and conditions. There is a goal, there is a resource (material / human) - conditions are created under which the resource will be implemented as efficiently as possible to achieve the goal.
With universal paid education, the most convenient conditions for the event will be created: the universal predominance of an idea reinforced from childhood. The idea that money rules our World. Displacing all other ideological alternatives. Greed, thank God, is still condemned.

This is a blow, gentlemen. Basics.

[elmir15]

What will happen? otherwise it’s not clear that they will install the same one, the trend can be traced by Fursenko, Livanov...?