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While the United States talked about global security ...

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Against the background of the active phase of the Russian-American “list” confrontation, the American delegation, led by the Assistant to the President of the United States on national security issues, Thomas Donilon, unexpectedly arrived in Moscow. The delegation of high-ranking overseas officials also included Ms. Goethemuller, who is US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. Donilon and Gethemuller were composed by the American ambassador to Russia, who had gone somewhat into the information shadow lately (apparently, due to the well-known “problems” of NGOs financed from abroad), notorious Michael McFaul.




What is the idea promoted by this American "bird-three" in Moscow? And the idea is the following: Mr. Donilon and his ilk, on the special assignment of President Obama, decided to raise the question of whether it is time to start reducing the amount of nuclear stockpiles weapons and reaching a constructive (according to the American side) position on missile defense (PRO). There is a visit, there are offers, but a strange feeling of some other overseas dirty trick also does not leave ... And why did we become so suspicious? .. But it turns out that it’s not just us.

Even American newspapers say Donilon’s visit to Moscow is untimely, as Russia’s rather vigorous discussion of the “final decision” adopted in the United States on the so-called Magnitsky Act continues. For example, The New York Times dubbed Obama's adviser's trip to the Russian capital awkward.

Obviously, the head of the delegation himself understood all the awkwardness of the visit, but, as they say, the party said: “I must,” Donilon replied: “there is!” As a result, an openly crumpled trip came out, during which the American side held talks with the Secretary of the Russian Security Council, representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Of course, the delegates were aiming for a personal meeting with the Russian president, but even before Donilon and the company arrived in Moscow, the Kremlin’s press service reported that the meeting could take place only if Vladimir Putin had free time on his working day schedule. Such a correspondence answer to the American side hinted at the fact that if you are going to go to Russia, then forget about your wishes in terms of meetings with specific individuals: with whom we will allow - talk with those.

As a result, Thomas Donilon still saw the Russian president, but only the meeting was almost in passing. Vladimir Putin arrived at the Security Council, as if, by the way, and at that moment an adviser to the American president barely had time to give Putin an envelope with a message from Obama. Assistant to the President of Russia Yury Ushakov said that Vladimir Putin had a positive talk with the head of the American delegation, that he fit in with the positive essence of the letter that he (Putin) sent to him through Donilon Barack Obama. Without going into details, Ushakov said that the letter contained proposals from the American side to deepen bilateral dialogue and cooperation.

This raises the question: who was joking? - Yuri Ushakov or Barack Obama? What does “deepening” of bilateral cooperation mean? You can deepen that has at least some initial depth. The relations between Russia and the USA today, due to a series of overtly anti-Russian actions and the adoption of appropriate anti-Russian decisions on the basis of this, have dried up so much that there is simply nothing to deepen here.

Of course, in this situation, Obama believes that it is he who takes the first step and extends his hand to Russia to start a new “reset”, but it’s already dubious, let's say, the background of this call for deeper cooperation. The American special services allow themselves to be grabbed by Russian citizens without any international sanctions and permits, the American courts investigate cases against Russian citizens, guided not by testimony and evidence, but by scenarios of Hollywood films, the American guardianship service and law enforcement system are either sluggish or not at all react to the increasing incidence of crime against children adopted in Russia by American adoptive parents, the US authorities spit "from the high bell tower" to Russia yskie concern on the part of the US deployment of missile defense systems in different parts of the globe, well, and, of course, the US intervention in Russia's internal affairs, which is covered by a veil of alleged concern about human rights in Russia.

And then, you know, they declare to us that, they say, those who remember the old ... Well, they are good, you won’t say anything! At first - attempts to wallow in the mud, and right there - we are ready to “deepen” cooperation. Yes, for God's sake: you want - deepen, who's in the way? Demonstrate the first steps not in words and not in the epistolary genre, but in deeds. But so far it turns out this way: when, from a financial point of view, everything is relatively calm in the US, no official representatives come to the Russian Federation with proposals for cooperation, but as soon as it turns out that there is not enough money to develop a missile defense system (the decision to cancel final stage - the deployment of interceptor missiles in Europe), then immediately heard such words as “the need for dialogue”, “reduction of the number of nuclear warheads”, “constructive cooperation” and so on, sorry, crap, which tomorrow may be ten ü times revised by the United States. History “Partnerships” with the United States have already taught Russia that with this, forgive my God, partner, to negotiate something - it’s more expensive for myself: tomorrow they will be replayed, pereinachat and will say that this should be from a democratic point of view ...

It is noteworthy that when the visit of the American delegation, which touched on issues of world security, ended, this very security was subjected to a serious test already in the United States. Several explosions took place in Boston, as a result of which three people were killed and about one and a half hundred injured of varying degrees of severity. Two hellish cars were powered in close proximity to the finish line of the marathon that day. The organizers of the terrorist attack knew perfectly well about a major international event in Boston, and they also knew that television was broadcasting sports events live. Bombs were blown up when thousands of people were along the marathon distance. About an hour later, a third explosion struck Boston. The bomb exploded in the John F. Kennedy Library. The library building after the explosion engulfed fire. The American side does not report accurate data on the victims in this place of Boston.

While the United States talked about global security ...


While the security services do not give an accurate assessment of what happened, and put forward several versions of who is the organizer of the terrorist attacks in the United States. If we talk about versions, the main one is the trail of radical Islamists. This version is prompted by the “handwriting” of terrorists - the initial double, and as a result - a triple terrorist attack, which was clearly aimed at a bloody outcome and attracting the attention of the world community.

The Boston terrorist attack itself has become the largest 2001 of the year for the USA, and clearly demonstrates that while the USA is conducting a witch hunt in different parts of the world and declare its readiness to hang a security dome over the whole “progressive” world, not everything is safe with the security inside the States okay. Therefore, Washington should really think about it and work on its mistakes of a geopolitical scale, if, of course, the Boston tragedy is not another reason for a new witch hunt from the US and not a reason for inflating the military budget of this state ...

A simple Americans sorry!
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  1. INTER
    INTER April 17 2013 08: 51 New
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    I won’t be surprised if they now say that the organizers of Syria and Iran. Like in the old days from September 11 and the towers. Under the pretext of an attack, it is possible that they are now opening their doors. smile
    1. albert
      albert April 17 2013 08: 56 New
      54
      Tochnyak. Who is there next in line for the bombing distribution of democracy?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 17 2013 09: 27 New
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        Maybe I'm wrong, but some terrorist attack is not terrorist. More like a demonstration or an attempt to achieve your goals through imitation. Yes, there were two explosions, BUT: a lot of victims with only three dead, and this with such a crowd, and even five !!! pieces did not work. Did the Brooklyn High School aviation modellers collect a bomb? It’s more like the struggle of the special services with a reduction in the costs of them, loved ones.
        1. Murat 09
          Murat 09 April 17 2013 10: 04 New
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          Vladimirovets +, I, too, of this opinion, already wrote about this in another post.
        2. dany
          dany April 17 2013 10: 37 New
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          Vladimir, most likely you are right, but in this story the most frightening thing is that the Boston tragedy will be dealt with for a very long time and will be found by the extreme (whoever is profitable will be found), and when thousands of peaceful people die from “official terrorism” of Amers residents around the world, so this is not particularly covered. WHAT AT ALL IS IT FOR ???
          Yes, I feel sorry for the victims in the United States, but it seems that the whole world community of Amers is “pitiful” (as if the highest race) than the victims in the rest of the world.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman April 17 2013 11: 03 New
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            yeah ... they’ll find comrades Kim, Ahmodinizhad (you’ll write the fuck right) and Assad at the place of the attack. And soon, another bin Laden will say in Aljazir that Alkaida has nothing to do with it.
            Old and hackneyed record!
            the crowd density was quite large, but only three corpses. At least 3-4 kg would have exploded there. in TNT, then they would all fall within a radius of 10 meters.
            1. Batman
              Batman April 17 2013 15: 53 New
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              At least 3-4 kg would have exploded there. in TNT

              and adding metal objects (bolts, nails, etc.) ... what’s it, oh yes, in Syria they carry out 10 terrorist attacks (the opposition conducts), and they are still stroking their heads and saying “what good fellows are fighting for human rights, take more assault rifles, etc. "...
              By the way, as I understand it, "Human Rights" - this refers to the rights of a particular person, and not of a common people ...
          2. sibircat
            sibircat April 17 2013 11: 16 New
            20
            Quote: dany
            it seems that the whole world community of Amers is “pitiful” (as if the highest race) than those affected in the rest of the world.

            + + + + +
            I almost cried, looking at Obama's speech.
          3. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg April 17 2013 12: 16 New
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            Quote: dany
            Yes, I feel sorry for the victims in the United States, but it seems that the whole world community of Amers is “pitiful” (as if the highest race) than the victims in the rest of the world.


            And there is. Everything is simple here. The dead under mines in Damascus do not show children in CNN, only Boston. And the comments of course ...
            1. alexng
              alexng April 17 2013 16: 27 New
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              Yes, these American deceivers compete with each other in hypocrisy in relation to other inhabitants of the Earth. This parasitic country would disappear faster from the World map and earthlings would breathe a sigh of relief with a full chest.
            2. yak69
              yak69 April 17 2013 20: 50 New
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              Quote: Geisenberg
              The dead under mines in Damascus do not show children in CNN, only Boston.

              Accurate remark! The three dead and the country in mourning. But what about the attacks in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, In Syria, in general, women and children were cut with knives. The last time young men and men drowned in the river. And amers silently pass or scream about "Assad's crimes."
              Nothing goes unnoticed. The grief, destruction and death that sow amers around the world will one day return to them! One day, all the curses of the world will fall on their heads.
              America is preparing hell for itself.
          4. vadson
            vadson April 17 2013 12: 23 New
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            Yes, I feel sorry for the victims in the United States, but it seems that the whole world community of Amers is “pitiful” (as if the highest race) than the victims in the rest of the world.
            but I kind of drum on these Amer victims, the Syrians feel sorry for them, but they are not.
            3 chelas grunted the stench all over the world, Ban Ki-moon condemned the attack, the old kazel. in Syria, hundreds of civilians are shot at the back of the head and blown up and the whole west doesn’t even call it terrorist attacks.
            The United States wants to do something about and disarm us - i.e. become 100% unpunished. right now they are weirding the whole world and then there will be, a slave system.
            joke on the topic
            White emigrated to South Africa. Walks around Johannesburg, thinks what to do, there are no entertainments. Looks goes white. He stops him and says: “Listen, how are you having fun here?”
            He says: - New, right?
            - Yes! How did you guess?
            - Yes, there are no entertainments, except for the cinema. Go to the cinema.
            - Thank!
            He comes to the cinema, looks worth a turn from the blacks. He sits down in a tail standing.
            White goes by and says:
            - New, huh?
            - Yes! How did you guess?
            “But who is behind the blacks in line?” You go to the ticket office, there they will give you a ticket out of turn.
            Comes for sure give. He enters the cinema, sits on the ground, sits.
            Passes white and says:
            - New, huh?
            - Yes! How did you guess?
            - Foolish head, well, who is sitting on the ground? We are white sitting on the balcony.
            He climbs onto the balcony. Sits. Itch for $$ at. He turns to a seated white man and asks:
            - And where do you go for $$?
            He says: - New, right?
            - Yes! How did you guess?
            He says: - Yes, we don’t go anywhere, we are $$ right from the balcony.
            - What are you ?!
            He unfastens his fly and starts $$ on his head at the bottom of the seated black man.
            He raises his head and says:
            - Are you a brand new chtoli?
            - Yes! How did you guess?
            - Don’t do everything on me! You spray, spray!


            I would not want such a future for the whole world
            1. ildar335
              ildar335 April 22 2013 09: 33 New
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              joke nishtyak!))))
              if only he made an amendment: a Russian soldier in occupied America among the "Native Americans" !!! it will be more interesting! wink
          5. core
            core April 17 2013 17: 06 New
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            that’s for sure, compatriots who bring flowers to the US Embassy are especially enraging me, because I didn’t notice the flowers at the Syrian Embassy, ​​there really is no magazine in front of which you can show off, in your humanity. I didn’t see flowers at our embassy in the United States, when terrorist attacks occur, but this is normal, we are not universal, we are not sorry.
          6. Quiet
            Quiet April 17 2013 21: 47 New
            +1
            and find the extreme

            ... as always, it will be Russia or the USSR ....
        3. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg April 17 2013 12: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Maybe I'm wrong, but some terrorist attack is not terrorist.


          Did you want two planes to skyscrapers again? Only the State Department has enough money for such attacks, so forget it because there’s a hole in the budget.

          In this particular case, for mere pennies - 5 hundred parts, 25 kilos of explosives from the store and 25 kilos of nails ... if you think about it, it’s an insignificant amount, a worldwide resonance has been reached. Again, it is clear why there are few casualties - the design of the VU and the steel box of the urn slightly weakened the damaging effect of all factors. Demolishing skyscrapers was incomparably more expensive. In principle, if we compare the price-quality attack in Boston, it will be incomparably more effective than 9.11 ... On this wave, the stripes can now bombardlessly bomb any country they want. In general, it’s good that so far they have not appointed the perpetrators. After a week, this bombing will not work.

          Quote: Vladimirets
          More like a demonstration or an attempt to achieve your goals through imitation.


          Not weak imitation - 130 cripples and three corpses. Do you just imagine what the 130 wounded ??? The Almighty is forcing me to say that the terrorist attack must be spectacular, bloody, so that mountains of debris and smoking corpses with seas of blood. Only then can he achieve the goal. Terror is its main goal, that is, frightened, thoughtlessly requiring protection and response people. The only way. In Boston, just the third component is evident - rivers of blood and the cries of the wounded.
          1. shark
            shark April 19 2013 15: 19 New
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            It would be possible without sacrifices. Just blow up the statue of Svobod. Such a spit in the soul of the world hegemon))))
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 April 23 2013 08: 52 New
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            Quote: Geisenberg
            On this wave, the striped can now bombardlessly bomb any country they want.

            The Czech Republic, as they say, neither by sleep nor spirit, can easily fall under the distribution! laughing
        4. Uncle
          Uncle April 17 2013 13: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          only three dead

          And how much do they need for them to think? Three millions?
          1. Che
            Che April 18 2013 19: 26 New
            +1
            In my opinion, nothing will help, your shirt is closer to the body. What is going on abroad amer according to FIG.
        5. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 April 17 2013 14: 07 New
          +8
          Vladimirets
          Maybe I'm wrong, but some terrorist attack is not terrorist. More like a demonstration or an attempt to achieve your goals through imitation.

          The number of police forces that they have grown recently, massive purchases of weapons for them, toughening laws for anti-government activities, increasing control of their own citizens (wiretapping of telephone conversations, removal of personal information from social networks, cameras on every street corner) - all this causes great indignation among US citizens, those who are not completely stupefied. That is, it is necessary to somehow convince these citizens that they need state control?
          Does it sound cynical? And what, the US government is not capable of such steps?
          1. brelok
            brelok April 18 2013 07: 42 New
            +3
            For the first time, chtol. In the history of the USA there were worse cases. Rockefellers launched a whole ship with 1500 people to the USA to enter the First World War. And they don’t hide it. Is it interesting where they rush this time?
        6. cumastra1
          cumastra1 April 17 2013 15: 39 New
          +3
          Actually, for example, in our circle of aircraft modellers everything that was collected, everything worked as it should.
        7. skeptic
          skeptic April 17 2013 17: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Maybe I'm wrong, but some terrorist attack is not terrorist. More like a demonstration or an attempt to achieve your goals through imitation.


          Apparently they got a stick, for September 11, now they tried to minimize losses, with a large number of "neutralized" bombs. One is alarming that, like September 11, the attack was carried out with a large concentration of foreign media and representatives of other countries. Most likely, another provocation will be launched against the newly appointed "aggressor". Perhaps the "untimely" arrival of the "peacekeepers", i.e. the American delegation is also not accidental in the general web.
        8. Snoop
          Snoop April 18 2013 07: 26 New
          +2
          The same opinion ... a terrorist attack from a series of "assassination" on Chubais.
        9. Alexey K.
          Alexey K. April 18 2013 14: 31 New
          0
          Terrorist attack in Domodedovo: 37 dead, 117 wounded
        10. Akatsubasa
          Akatsubasa April 20 2013 10: 35 New
          +1
          The execution style itself is amateurish (Well, you had to think of using gunpowder! Not only will the trail follow such a “bomber” to his house, it’s also a surprising component. This could be done only by a very stupid person, or who the state has instructed (to really reduce the number of possible victims with a minimum of effort).
        11. alexey garbuz
          alexey garbuz April 24 2013 00: 31 New
          0
          Something rumor is about a poorly organized performance http://maxpark.com/community/2100/content/1951494
      2. Gari
        Gari April 17 2013 10: 44 New
        +6
        The Anti-Terrorism Act, known as the Patriot Act, adopted after September 11, 2001
        temporarily restricts US civil rights and freedoms. In particular, libraries are required to provide data on which books visitors read and which Internet sites they view. Foreigners suspected of involvement in the activities of terrorist organizations are threatened with imprisonment for an indefinite period.
        Three years later, Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy described the law as follows: “It's time to put an end to Americans spying on Americans. We no longer have a separation of powers. And this is in a free and democratic country like America.”
        1. Gari
          Gari April 17 2013 10: 47 New
          +3
          The Boston terrorist attack itself has become the largest 2001 of the year for the USA, and clearly demonstrates that while the USA is conducting a witch hunt in different parts of the world and declare its readiness to hang a security dome over the whole “progressive” world, not everything is safe with the security inside the States okay. Therefore, Washington should really think about it and work on its mistakes of a geopolitical scale, if, of course, the Boston tragedy is not another reason for a new witch hunt from the US and not a reason for inflating the military budget of this state ...

          A simple Americans sorry!
      3. T-130
        T-130 April 17 2013 11: 48 New
        -2
        Syria, Iran, the DPRK, and there too, the turn of Russia and China will do!
      4. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 21 2013 18: 55 New
        +1
        whatever bad happens in the USA, all this is good ... these carriers of shit democracy already pulled up ... negative
      5. ildar335
        ildar335 April 22 2013 09: 28 New
        0
        Syria, damn it, then Iran, and then through the south and the former republics of Asia will begin to crush us and that's the beginning of 3MB! (
        Amers country swam in fat and brainwashed by a box of brains!
        just finished ducks !!!
    2. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 09: 22 New
      +2
      they will not say. Syria has already closed the question, a few more months at the most and it will all end.
      here rather Sev. Korea is accused, following the latest rhetoric of the Amer authorities in its relation.
      1. Anon
        Anon April 17 2013 09: 30 New
        -7
        In Syria, then? There is enough fun for another year. The end of the edge is not visible.
        1. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 11: 13 New
          -6
          it smells like a maximum of six months, the USA washed their hands and left the situation to the Arab Emirates led by the United Kingdom ... well done, no, the alternative with the delivery of Qatari gas has already been decided with Iran, Iran has been pulling the pipe for what month, and the Qatari in Egypt have already port gas stations are building ...
          So again, we will be the extreme gas pipeline obviously not under our control, albeit on the Syrian territory and not only will cheap gas go to the Europe, knocking down our supplies in Europe, we will also lose heaps of projects in Libya.
          One way or another, but the campaign in this round the world behind the scenes strikes us, blocking access to Europe and throwing in the arms of China ... and he seeing that Russia has nowhere else to put gas, it will famously reduce the price ...
          In short, they are preparing Siberia in the form of a rear for China ... then a couple of terrorist attacks and a whisker ... China says that its interests cannot remain unchecked and that’s the reason for tearing a tidbit from Russia ...
          In the meantime, these processes will spin up. There is time to prepare the PLA for a war with Russia, and nuclear weapons alone will not save us much ...
          True, China we’ll see a dark horse ... what kind of fortels he will throw ...
          But it should be remembered that China has long adhered to one rule: You need to be friends with a distant neighbor, and to fight with those who are nearby.
          1. max-02215
            max-02215 April 17 2013 11: 44 New
            +3
            Definitely +, China will not be white and fluffy for us. You just have to turn your brains on a little, just think about why China is arming so quickly? 60, 70, beginning 80, it would seem to be taken with your bare hands, but there were no people wishing to feed 1.5 billion very hungry mouths. From whom are they going to defend themselves now? Well, there are no candidates to attack, except for Russia.
            1. DeerIvanovich
              DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 11: 50 New
              0
              Russia will definitely not attack, but China is easy ... in order to protect its energy rear, it is not in vain that China is planted on the Russian needle, and indeed, China also sits on the needle consciously ... not for nothing that the Rothschilds made a bet on China.
              And the West never fought with an equal opponent and never will: after all, it’s much easier to cross someone else, and then get into the end of the mess in order to reap all the benefits as a winner.
              1. DeerIvanovich
                DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 12: 46 New
                -1
                heh, just pass the reasoned post, and even without the facts of refutation, then it will be so ...
                it’s unpleasant to see anyone aware of the fact that Russian deer laughing read all the steps of their leadership.
              2. Batman
                Batman April 17 2013 16: 08 New
                +5
                China has learned from bitter experience in attacking Russia (more precisely, the USSR). Do you think fools are sitting in China? To kill the US counterweight, to arrange a radiation desert on their territory? In the next 50-100 years, China will not attack Russia.
                1. DeerIvanovich
                  DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 17: 32 New
                  0
                  and what did the Chinese give written obligations not to attack Russia for 50-100 years?
                  1. Space
                    Space April 18 2013 00: 14 New
                    +1
                    It seems that without obligation it is clear. In the presence of nuclear energy, nuclear weapons, and even any chemistry and bio-killing rubbish, Russia is an extremely dangerous object for an open attack. Therefore, they will be beaten by religion, family, representatives of power, that is, by ideology and its carriers. China has no such influence on our history as Europe has. Why? Yes, they themselves would save their rare-earth deposits and not let the Tibetans and Pomeranians fly a whirl. There have already been attempts.
                    1. DeerIvanovich
                      DeerIvanovich April 18 2013 13: 19 New
                      -1
                      do you understand what you wrote?
                      and we’ve just finished off the last pearl:
                      Quote: Space
                      Yes, they themselves would save their rare-earth deposits and not let the Tibetans and Pomeranians plunder

                      Well, it’s Nada Uyghur became Pomors laughing
                      1. Space
                        Space April 18 2013 20: 28 New
                        +2
                        savvy nain?
                        It was in the regions connected with the sea and ports that there were attempts, not long ago, to start an anti-government bombing.
                        Google about rare earths and find them, you will see which country has more of them, and where all the factories are stuck producing electronics.
                        )) Moose, just Moose :)
            2. Hort
              Hort April 17 2013 13: 12 New
              +1
              Well, in theory, there is still India. By the ratio of layering and mob. Resource - a completely equal adversary to the Hunghuz. Moreover, there are long-standing grievances and disagreements. From the age of 61, if my memory serves me right
              1. DeerIvanovich
                DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 17: 33 New
                -1
                in theory, India seeks to make friends with all its neighbors
                1. Hort
                  Hort April 18 2013 14: 23 New
                  0
                  Especially with pakistan
            3. Dejavu
              Dejavu April 18 2013 03: 57 New
              +1
              Ahahahah 1.5 billion hungry mouths?!?! The Chinese eat better than you and they have food ten times cheaper. “Well, except Russia ...” Do you know the words “Self-defense”, “Pacific region”, “World reputation”? This is something that does not imply military action, but does not require weak armament.
          2. Batman
            Batman April 17 2013 16: 04 New
            -1
            why is China constantly robbed, less populated neighbor?
          3. Dejavu
            Dejavu April 18 2013 03: 53 New
            +1
            If you were in China, you probably noticed how much this people love their country and ... money. China is a large bazaar with 4 thousand years of history. They are fighting sucks and even though there are a lot of them, according to the latest data in their army there are not even a million people. Our airborne soldiers, when they arrived at the exercises, said that the Chinese are fighters like them (airborne) ballerinas. But the most important thing is that the Chinese earn money in peacetime and war, like all normal countries, is not needed.
            Moreover, the top of military skill in China is considered to live in peace.
            1. DeerIvanovich
              DeerIvanovich April 18 2013 13: 23 New
              +1
              Germans historically have almost always been our allies, but nevertheless they fought in a strange way, not for us, but with us in the First World War and the Second.
      2. INTER
        INTER April 17 2013 09: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: DeerIvanovich
        they will not say. Syria has already closed the question, a few more months at the most and it will all end.
        here rather Sev. Korea is accused, following the latest rhetoric of the Amer authorities in its relation.

        Already exaggerated information about the entered Saudi, so that traces are still looking from the east.
        1. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 11: 23 New
          0
          One way or another, the situation with the Salafis will be decided: either the Syrian army is wetting them, or the remnants will be redirected to us, or they themselves will be banged so that the infection does not return to its "penates".
      3. ksandr45
        ksandr45 April 17 2013 09: 39 New
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        North Korea will not be signed for this, who are the terrorists? The correctness of the radical Islamists. Most likely they will indicate that we need drones over cities, complain that there is not enough money for safety, which means that you need to increase costs. Well, as an option, the NSA can fit in.
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 April 17 2013 09: 57 New
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          Quote: ksandr45
          Most likely they will indicate that we need drones over cities, complain that there is not enough money

          We must always look to whom it is beneficial! This terrorist attack in Syria is beneficial!? Absolutely unprofitable! Beneficial to Iran!? It’s also not necessary! It can be beneficial to the UK!
          1. sibircat
            sibircat April 17 2013 11: 10 New
            +4
            Quote: sergo0000
            So the Americans themselves did it! And for what, apparently.

            Exactly!
            There are few victims, there is a lot of noise. Not a single terrorist organization announced itself, but usually they conduct such actions for self-promotion. Foreign intelligence agencies do not deal with such "children's toys." Psycho single does not organize three explosions at the same time. Conclusion: a planned action by the CIA.
            So far the question remains: Why? I think in the near future US intelligence agencies will tell us themselves
      4. Batman
        Batman April 17 2013 16: 00 New
        -2
        have you agreed on the account of Syria? who won ?, will she be left alone? )
    3. vadimus
      vadimus April 17 2013 09: 34 New
      +5
      Substitute their .... No wonder for amers. Not the first time!
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 April 17 2013 10: 30 New
        +9
        A pretty girl in the photo, she chopped off, sorry.
    4. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 09: 44 New
      +4
      Most likely they will say so, because they lose on all fronts. Most likely they themselves organized. In general, all "democratized" amers countries need to transfer the war to the territory of the enemy, that is, the United States.
    5. Gari
      Gari April 17 2013 10: 41 New
      +3
      [quote = INTER] I won’t be surprised if they now say that the organizers of Syria and Iran. Like in the old days from September 11 and the towers. Under the pretext of an attack, it is possible that they are now opening their doors.

      The reaction to the attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington was a change in the entire US policy. Suffice it to say in this connection the war in Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, the Bush Doctrine, the Guantanamo Camp and the Patriot Act.
      The US was convinced that the attacks in New York and Washington were Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda
      George W. Bush in an ultimatum requires the Taliban regime in Afghanistan to extradite bin Laden and eliminate all terrorist training bases. The Taliban reject the ultimatum and offer to bring bin Laden to an Islamic court. George W. Bush’s response follows immediately: "I gave the order to the US Air Force to launch bombing of al-Qaida terrorist camps and Taliban military bases in Afghanistan."
      Then everything is known.
      Who is next in line.
    6. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 April 17 2013 11: 13 New
      13
      I bet $ 100 against a dead rat that the Yusovites came to Moscow to find out how the Kremlin will react to the invasion of the gang of their looters and executioners, called the army, in Syria or Iran.
      The Boston attack on the level of idiocy, low efficiency and high entertainment is clearly the work of the CIA, as well as the explosion of the twin towers.
      If I were a terrorist, I would have found a way to inflict tremendous material and moral harm on USA without cheap effects with stupid crackers.
      1. patline
        patline April 17 2013 12: 15 New
        +4
        Facebook opened the page about the bombings in Boston 8 hours before the bombings
        http://warfiles.ru/show-29060-vzryvy-v-bostone-v-podderzhku-konspirologii.html
        1. brelok
          brelok April 18 2013 07: 50 New
          0
          Quote: patline
          Facebook opened the page about the bombings in Boston 8 hours before the bombings
          http://warfiles.ru/show-29060-vzryvy-v-bostone-v-podderzhku-konspirologii.html

          Isn't that disinfect? Surely they are so stupid! Although punctures happen at all
      2. nfyrbcn1971
        nfyrbcn1971 April 17 2013 14: 04 New
        -4
        They, i.e. USA, Moscow doesn’t need to - they do not care for a long time at all. With such an army and navy, you can not pay attention to the opinions of other parties.
    7. heavytank
      heavytank April 17 2013 13: 20 New
      0
      they will say so and so about something worthless options in fact this is the handiwork of the CIA themselves!
    8. bezumnyiPIT
      bezumnyiPIT April 17 2013 13: 24 New
      0
      Interestingly, they are in the security services where do they get what? To blow up civilians to please politicians?
    9. karbofos
      karbofos April 17 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      these are the machinations of North Korea for sure.


      moon-faced order given. bully
    10. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 17 2013 15: 22 New
      +5
      And here is some more news from the USA

      Silicon Valley partially de-energized due to shelling of power substation

      Transformers from PG&E, Northern California's largest electricity supplier, are damaged by unknowns. In this regard, representatives of the corporation called on residents of Silicon Valley to begin immediate energy savings.

      In a warning sent to local residents, it is noted that due to a severe fire that occurred at one of the substations in the city of Santa Clara, there was a serious refusal to operate the transformers. According to local media, the fire arose as a result of shelling of the substation by unknown people, ITAR-TASS reports. Currently, the police are working at the scene, experts are trying to fix the problem.
    11. Dilshat
      Dilshat April 17 2013 18: 54 New
      0
      Of course INTER. While the record is not jaded, why not use it again.
    12. 755962
      755962 April 17 2013 19: 51 New
      +5
      The simplicity of the bombs that exploded at the Boston marathon confuses the investigation: they could be made by a master who swept traces
      Meanwhile, there are already four versions of the attack, which killed three people and injured more than 180. According to the first, the bombings in Boston were a manifestation of Islamic jihad. Participation in the tragedy of the international al-Qaida terrorist group is not ruled out. Anonymous sources in law enforcement agencies note that according to the style of the organization of the bombings, it can be assumed that it was Al Qaeda that could send the terrorists. This is evidenced by the composition of the bombs, which were supposed to cause the greatest possible damage to people - a similar recipe for explosive mixtures is recommended for terrorist attacks by al-Qaeda leaders.

      At the same time, the investigation does not exclude that the attack was carried out by members of anti-government extremist groups. In favor of this version is, firstly, the fact that intelligence has not received any warnings about possible terrorist attacks. Secondly, explosions thundered on Patriot Day, when Americans recall the war of independence.

      It was also suggested that the bombings allegedly organized the government to achieve its own goals. Finally, according to another assumption, the bombs were planted by an insane lone criminal.


      http://www.newsru.com/world/17apr2013/bostobbomb.html
    13. Quiet
      Quiet April 17 2013 21: 45 New
      +5
      America, which has never won NEVER ONE WAR, has a phobia to fear and portray anuresis at the word USSR and RUSSIA, a country that has brought fascism to its knees !!! America's gut was thin! I am generally silent about England ...
    14. beech
      beech April 19 2013 20: 18 New
      0
      in vain they climb into all matters, they would sit at home, there would be no terrorist attacks ...
  2. krasin
    krasin April 17 2013 08: 56 New
    +8
    Things are bad for them if they themselves come closer. This has never been observed. Or maybe they have other goals. Time will tell. In principle, OK!
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt April 17 2013 11: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: krasin
      Things are bad for them if they themselves come to rapprochement.

      Yes, judging by the photos of this trio, they came to conduct!
  3. Tersky
    Tersky April 17 2013 08: 56 New
    +7
    That’s why Washington should really think and work on its mistakes of a geopolitical scale, if, of course, the Boston tragedy is not just another reason for a new witch hunt from the United States and no reason to inflate the military budget of this state ...
    The simple truth is Time to throw stones, and time to collect ...... It is a pity that people who are far from the intrigues of the State Department suffered.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa April 17 2013 10: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: Tersky
      It is a pity that people who are far from the intrigues of the State Department suffered

      Our people in Israel have already painted everything according to notes: "Boston police and security officials announced that they were looking for two men: one was described as dark-skinned, with a foreign accent, his face is partially hidden by a hood that carried a large backpack and continued to try to enter a closed section near the finish line. The second person was photographed by spectators on the roof with a view of the finish line after the second explosion.
      After the events, the police neutralized three more explosive devices.
      On Tuesday, the FBI recognized the search for a “potential terrorist,” although US President Barack Obama, when he promised justice to the “guilty,” carefully circled the term “terror.” This is reminiscent of the administration’s refusal to assess it as a terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi on September 11, 2012, and the assassination of Ambassador Chris Stevens, although this was clearly the work of an al Qaeda element.
      It is too early to say whether this was the work of al-Qaeda or an allied radical jihadist group such as Ansar al-Sharia, which was responsible for Benghazi.
      Ahead of the London marathon next week, and the state funeral of late British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher on Wednesday, April 17, Experts with experience in these matters argue that an attack of this magnitude and type would require four or five militants on the ground and a support group of about 10 accomplices familiar with the area earlier. They would need more than one vehicle and communications equipment, in addition to mobile phones that are easily tracked.
      Two explosions, 400 meters apart, were obviously coordinated and designed to cause maximum casualties. Ball bearings scattered throughout the crime scene and found in the pockets of some of the victims are familiar to the Israelis and serve as evidence of Middle Eastern terrorist authorship.
      The explosive device that caused such chaos and defeat was small but fatal - another indicator of the "professionalism" of the attackers
      . Unlike the president, Senator Diane Feinstein, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, right after this event, said: “I understand that this is a terrorist act,” although it is too early to say whether this was carried out by foreign or domestic elements. http://www.debka.com/article/22901/FBI-Boston-Marathon-probe-points-to-Mid-East-
      terrorists-with-domestic-support
      Everyone still sees what he wants - al-Qaeda, Middle Eastern terrorists, but the US reaction says that they are still in prostration.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv April 17 2013 10: 59 New
        +2
        Right now Professor will appear smile
        1. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 12: 56 New
          +3
          do not call the poor fellow, he has not had time to wash epaulets yet ...
        2. Leisure
          Leisure April 17 2013 16: 41 New
          0
          And that Professor, it’s not in Israel that they didn’t.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 17 2013 17: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: Kaa
        Our people in Israel have already painted everything, as if by notes

        Thank you, everything is intelligible, without throwing stones at the victims.
        hi
  4. unclevad
    unclevad April 17 2013 09: 02 New
    +2
    This time, the US administration will make Iran a scapegoat. Or is it Syria? As always, countries that are objectionable to them will be punished for the sake of their angry public. An interesting pattern is obtained. When there is no particular reason to cling, for example, to Afghanistan, a terrorist act is committed in the United States.
  5. mnbv199
    mnbv199 April 17 2013 09: 04 New
    78
    Hello!
    And I was outraged by our Russian media. From the TV, radio, internet and newspapers, you can only hear about the tragedy in Boston. But when a terrorist attack occurs in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. our media only bring us a few mean phrases; at best, they’ll show a video. Therefore, I want to ask the media workers: "Who is your boss, who work out your 30 pieces of silver?"
    Be healthy!
    1. Armata
      Armata April 17 2013 09: 08 New
      20
      Quote: mnbv199
      And I was outraged by our Russian media. From the TV, radio, internet and newspapers, you can only hear about the tragedy in Boston. But when a terrorist attack occurs in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.
      Good day. Do you think about who the media belongs to in Russia now? And most importantly, who seeks to fight in the political arena, but doesn’t see problems within the country?
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak April 17 2013 09: 48 New
        11
        Quote: Mechanic
        Do you think about who the media belongs to in Russia now?


        Do not forget those who advertise for them for money, which is the source of their existence.

        1. Procter & Gamble -
        2. UNILEVER -
        3. Reckitt Benckiser -
        4. Danone -
        5. L'oreal -
        6. Wimm-Bill-Dann -
        7. Mars-Russia -
        8. Pepsi Co -
        9. Megaphone -
        10. Wrigley's -
        1. Mhpv
          Mhpv April 17 2013 10: 38 New
          +1
          Vadivak you still forgot about late hi
    2. Murat 09
      Murat 09 April 17 2013 10: 10 New
      0
      mnvv199 1000 pluses to you
      1. Armata
        Armata April 17 2013 22: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: mhpv
        Adivak you still forgot about later
        This clown has long been taken seriously by no one.
        1. vadson
          vadson April 17 2013 23: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Mechanic
          Quote: mhpv
          Adivak you still forgot about later
          This clown has long been taken seriously by no one.

          Well, do not tell the media they are doing their vile deed, and the first channel is the leader here.
    3. Botanologist
      Botanologist April 17 2013 23: 27 New
      0
      Quote: mnbv199
      From the TV, radio, internet and newspapers, you can only hear about the tragedy in Boston. But when a terrorist attack occurs in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. our media bring to us only a few mean phrases



      Most likely because after the terrorist attacks in America, some kind of war begins. Therefore, such attention. Track the reaction.
    4. Snoop
      Snoop April 18 2013 07: 28 New
      0
      And how many different accidents and disasters in our vast Motherland? But the events in Boston are more important ...
    5. Che
      Che April 18 2013 19: 33 New
      0
      Well, our media are bought up in the bud west, so they will yap in defense of the owners.
  6. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 17 2013 09: 09 New
    +7
    vague doubts torment me ... didn't the CIA have a hand in it again? and they will find the “switchman” to their taste ... however this method is popular all over the world, and here too ... what
  7. bilgesez
    bilgesez April 17 2013 09: 11 New
    +8
    These freaks need to arrange the same thing that they did to Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria.
    1. Anon
      Anon April 17 2013 09: 21 New
      -10
      Have you already done your lessons for tomorrow, a fighter against imperialism?
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 17 2013 09: 23 New
      -4
      And if your relative or friend was standing in the crowd?
      1. wax
        wax April 17 2013 09: 49 New
        +9
        Or maybe a relative was standing under the bombs in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria? Or at the sight of American UAVs? The aggressor must be punished, the terrorists destroyed.
        1. Vrungel78
          Vrungel78 April 17 2013 13: 25 New
          -3
          There is a difference. There is a war going on. Event expected. A sensible disinterested person will dump from there, an interested person (participant in the events) will intentionally remain. In Boston, PEACEFUL people were hurt, not imagining there would be an explosion.
          1. brelok
            brelok April 18 2013 07: 58 New
            +4
            And when they voted for death around the world, what were they thinking? It’s a norm to kill in Serbia and a tragedy in Boston. You have to teach them. Cynically true.
    3. Mugs
      Mugs April 17 2013 09: 31 New
      +1
      One of the dead is an eight-year-old child. What is he guilty of? Less to you. It is necessary to punish those who have blood on their hands, and not ordinary citizens who are far from politics.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel April 17 2013 09: 52 New
        12
        And in the same Syria, how many of these children are innocently killed for democracy?
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 09: 55 New
          -28
          In Syria, they themselves wet each other, what to do? There are no Americans there.
          1. Vrungel78
            Vrungel78 April 17 2013 13: 25 New
            0
            You at least watch the news
        2. Mugs
          Mugs April 17 2013 10: 10 New
          +1
          Many, but even the death of one child is a tragedy that cannot be justified by anything. You can not put on the scales of children's lives.
          1. Mugs
            Mugs April 18 2013 00: 51 New
            +1
            I can’t understand what kind of subjects will pass my post ... Can anyone really disagree with my statement? Well this is what kind of geek you need to be in order not to appreciate the life of an innocent child. Today I realized that among us there are no less ugly freaks than among Americans who are far from simple human values. It's horrible. And do we blame them? Turn around!
        3. Che
          Che April 18 2013 19: 40 New
          0
          How many in the same Syria killed children and crippled shit-democrats. Of course I feel sorry for everyone, but it’s a pity for us and not for the common people, that’s where the difference is.
      2. Shkodnik65
        Shkodnik65 April 17 2013 10: 00 New
        18
        One of the dead is an eight-year-old child. What is he guilty of? Less to you. It is necessary to punish those who have blood on their hands, and not ordinary citizens who are far from politics.

        It is certainly correct, the child is not to blame for anything, as well as other spectators and participants in the marathon. This is understandable ... But tell me, are the Serbian children whose Americans put the bombs to blame? If you want to refresh your memory, the Internet will help you, there you will find everything in detail. And remember how the US Air Force helicopter gunned down ANY ANNOUNCEMENT people in Iraq, among whom could also be someone else's acquaintances, children, parents. What does "ordinary citizens" mean? Amer "turned" on the construction of democracy in other countries "by any means." And if it (democracy) needs to be "built" they turn into a beast. Sorry, dear, but I have no pity for them, because if a chance comes up, then these "ordinary citizens" and my children will be "killed" in the name of a "great democratic idea." So how are they better than Al Qaeda? Well, as for what happened in Boston, then in my country there were (and more recently) such attacks that September 11 was not around, and what ???? America washed her face with tears about this ???? Well, I will not cry about what happened in the United States.
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 10: 04 New
          -33
          Serbs? Well, in my opinion they sodomized and staged the genocide of Muslims and nationalities, unleashing essentially a civil war. Or do you feel sorry for the Bosnian Muslims, Croats? And the massacre in Srebrenica? And the siege of Sarajevo? Maybe the US needs to say thank you for stopping this mess? In our zone with lawless people it was easy - right into the roosters and under the shonkar.
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel April 17 2013 10: 31 New
            10
            It is somehow strange to read that only Serbs pursued a policy of genocide in Yugoslavia. The rest are just pink teddy bears. Atu them, the Serbs! Let there remain pink and plush Albanians, Croats, Montenegrins, etc. Serbs are subhuman, untermensch. This has already happened recently. do not forget such!
            1. Anon
              Anon April 17 2013 10: 35 New
              -18
              So, someone here crowed about the "double standards" and the vile Americans. I brought a clear and well-known fact from history - sodomy in Yugoslavia. Were there any Serb crimes against humanity? There were. And massively for 10 years. What is the debate about?
              1. Shkodnik65
                Shkodnik65 April 17 2013 11: 32 New
                24
                I brought a clear and well-known fact from history - sodomy in Yugoslavia.

                Dear, maybe your example is “clear”, but absolutely not known. More well-known examples of the “parsing” of Serbs into organs in Kosovo. Well this is me, just as an example. And I want to draw your attention to such an important aspect as the fact that Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia ... etc. it is a republic once a single state. Why get into the internal affairs of the country. Well, the country's leadership tried to maintain a single state. Fought with the supporters of disconnection as best they could. In the Caucasus, by the way, the methods (on both sides) were such that both the Serbs and the Croats rest. Or the United States in secret prisons, or for example in Guantanomo, not fuck ... are there Muslims ???? But I wrote something completely different. I wrote about the fact that the United States, a country located on the other side of the Earth, crawls with its "democracy" into often, completely calm secular countries. That is, imposes a system OUTSIDE. Explicitly and implicitly. And he shoots children in the same Vietnam, Libya, Syria, Panama ... some young John Smith, a bespectacled guy sure that (sorry for the stamp) they bear on their bayonets the people, well, for example, Iraq, happiness, freedom independence. Only now it turns out, as a rule, corpses, chaos and even more blood. That's just who cares. And once again I repeat: our television channels shook from the pity for the three dead in the United States, and when our bandits seized hospitals, ripped open pregnant bellies, blew up the subway and airports, the States did not wash themselves with tears. If they blew us up - this is our problem, if they blew them up, it seems to be just like our problem. And I sneezed at them. And I’m not going to talk about it
                1. Anon
                  Anon April 17 2013 11: 54 New
                  -11
                  Serb “parsing” of organs into Kosovo
                  Wow! What year is this? Zero like?
                  Why get into the internal affairs of the country.
                  I do not know. Probably when the Serbs gave the Untermens there a real burn-out - this is probably an excuse for them to intervene, as 888 Russia entered for the Ossetians. This is me, by the way, about double standards. When Saakashvili pulled hail in Tskhinvali and Russia launched a military operation against a sovereign state, this is an act of nobility, when after almost 10 years of civil war, when the Serbs slaughtered everyone, military facilities bombed - that’s a “go-to-go-go practice State Department nata imperialists !! 11 "

                  More questions?
                  1. lazy
                    lazy April 17 2013 19: 14 New
                    +5
                    and the Croatian Ustashi didn’t slaughter, and the Albanian Muslims didn’t slaughter, and the Boisnian ones as well, but what happened to the population of Serbian Krajina in Croatia? or if you didn’t tell about it in your zone in the zone, didn’t it? and why should the death of an American child the world mourn more than the death of dozens of Iraqi children in Baghdad when the amers lupanuli in a bomb shelter?
                2. Dejavu
                  Dejavu April 18 2013 05: 01 New
                  +2
                  It also freaked out when you turn on the TV and the speaker announces non-stop things about 3 victims and broadcast the same video over and over again. His wife immediately said how they blew us up, so they screamed for 2 days, and then, so casually, they started talking about football on the other side of the earth. Our PUBLIC (!) Media, well, have never been "OUR", but "OTHER". And okay, what NTV, so VESTI 24!
                  1. Che
                    Che April 18 2013 19: 46 New
                    0
                    When we learn how to lick one place to the west, then they will bend - that's for sure. It is time to wean from the Yeltsin era.
              2. DeerIvanovich
                DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 11: 33 New
                +8
                It is interesting that this fact is known only to you ...
                maybe you are the very sodomist who is upset by the Yugoslav military with his rejection of your kind ... request
                1. Anon
                  Anon April 17 2013 11: 56 New
                  -5
                  The massacre in Srebrenica, the siege of Kosovo - have you heard about this?
                  1. DeerIvanovich
                    DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 12: 54 New
                    +7
                    wow, oh my idol, yes you opened my eyes to the truth, I'm shocked and bastard with your speeches ... laughing
                    something in Kosovo somehow decreased several times the Serbian population, and the Albanian opposite increased: what’s wrong, there is clearly some kind of conspiracy ... Putin tried to stop Vladimir Putin, there’s no one else ... soaked all the Kosovo Serbs personally - these villains, so that innocent Albanians multiplied and multiplied in Kosovo to the evil of these worthless and incomprehensible Serbs who benefited. repeat

                    don’t worry about me, I’m fine with rumors - I hear a lot, but it’s not the task of storytellers in our time to divorce that you yourself know what flies are.
                    1. Anon
                      Anon April 17 2013 12: 57 New
                      -11
                      Cock, crawl under the key, do not linger.
                      1. DeerIvanovich
                        DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 13: 19 New
                        0
                        oh you look, what are you talking about, why would you suddenly? What do not like when flatter?
                        Well, yes, Lana, don’t be offended, about the almighty troll of bourgeois influence, you are the radiant light illuminating the path for us children not reasonable in this kingdom of hopeless darkness
                      2. lazy
                        lazy April 17 2013 19: 16 New
                        +2
                        can you go to some kind of forum for criminals there and talk on a hair dryer?
                      3. tomas.09
                        tomas.09 April 17 2013 20: 47 New
                        0
                        where did you come from, liberalist?
              3. max-02215
                max-02215 April 17 2013 12: 01 New
                +5
                Quote: Anon
                So, someone here crowed about "double standards"

                So you are crowing, as far as I know the Serbs didn’t cut their heads on Muslims, ours are on Chechens too. But, however, the entire geyropa was outraged only by the behavior of the Serbs, by the way, lovers of same-sex marriage now have one headache, and now what to do with Kosovo? - a large Sicilian family, on a scale of a small country type
                1. Anon
                  Anon April 17 2013 12: 06 New
                  -11
                  Serbs to Muslims did not cut their heads
                  No. Only shot.
                  our Chechens too
                  No. Only ears were cut off.
                  however, the entire geyropa was outraged only by the behavior of the Serbs
                  There was something to be outraged. The massacre and siege of Sarajevo - google.
                  and now what to do with Kosovo?
                  Your suggestions?
                  1. max-02215
                    max-02215 April 17 2013 12: 15 New
                    +2
                    Well, of course, you can google further.
                    Quote: Anon
                    No. Only shot.

                    is that from the movie sniper with Lungen?
                    Quote: Anon
                    The massacre and siege of Sarajevo - google.

                    But what, on the other hand, wasn’t, and it’s something that the tribunal in The Hague didn’t really succeed in confirming these speculations, throw off links to Official documents
                    Quote: Anon
                    Your suggestions?

                    to collect all this pack and to their historical homeland, but it is not necessary to drive the Serbs, they never were in enemies
                    1. Anon
                      Anon April 17 2013 12: 17 New
                      -9
                      is that from the movie sniper with Lungen?
                      No. Objective reality.

                      But what, on the other hand, wasn’t, and it’s something that the tribunal in The Hague didn’t really succeed in confirming these speculations, throw off links to Official documents

                      It was almost not. What reference do you need?

                      to collect all this pack and to their historical homeland, but it is not necessary to drive the Serbs, they never were in enemies
                      I say, the Serbs, they are a beautiful, peaceful people who, out of peaceful motives, have been shooting for less than 10 years.
                  2. phantom359
                    phantom359 April 17 2013 18: 20 New
                    +2
                    Yes, it’s hard to be a fool, probably? such nonsense to bear.))) You can’t even call this idiocy. It was necessary to throw you under the knife to the Arabs, maybe a little brains would fall into place.
                  3. tomas.09
                    tomas.09 April 17 2013 20: 41 New
                    0
                    Chechens began to cut their ears after Bamut, when our guys were crucified on crosses and put up in front of Chechen trenches.
              4. karbofos
                karbofos April 17 2013 14: 01 New
                +6
                and from the Albanians there was no chtol of lawlessness? current is not necessary about self-defense. to break the heads of women and children with a polo club and sell organs is not a mess? and this is also a proven fact. and to arrange a latrine from temples is so in Albanian. photo countless. so get in the way with the sidekeeper
                1. rolik
                  rolik April 17 2013 21: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: kalbofos
                  and from the Albanians there was no chtol of lawlessness?

                  Krendelek probably does not want to remember about the sale by Albanian kami of organs cut from captured Serbs.
          2. karbofos
            karbofos April 17 2013 14: 09 New
            +3
            In which zone did you end up fraroc? on a cock chtol? uaaaaas! at the zooone! sit quietly and you can’t find answers for the zone.
            1. Leisure
              Leisure April 17 2013 16: 51 New
              0
              Urkalyga made a mistake on the site, or mows it under authority.
        2. ksandr45
          ksandr45 April 17 2013 10: 28 New
          +1
          There is some truth in your words. Just do not forget that we are not Americans. We are better!
        3. Mugs
          Mugs April 17 2013 10: 35 New
          0
          I remember everything perfectly and did not justify anyone.
          Among the athletes participating in the marathon were our compatriots. They too could die. I hope that understanding this will allow you to change your attitude towards this event.
        4. Vrungel78
          Vrungel78 April 17 2013 13: 29 New
          +1
          Half of what you wrote is your speculation. Wash your face with tears optionally. At least do not express solidarity with the ubl-com who arranged it
      3. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell April 17 2013 10: 35 New
        +3
        In modern wars, non-combatants and combatants are no longer distinguished. They kill everyone. Geneva Convention of August 12 1949 of the Year and Additional Protocol 1977 thrown into a landfill ...
      4. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm April 17 2013 11: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Mugs
        One of the dead is an eight-year-old child. What is he guilty of? Less to you. It is necessary to punish those who have blood on their hands, and not ordinary citizens who are far from politics.

        Are you referring to the US Congress? The United States alone has more than 800 military bases around the world. Probably soon Europe and the United States will begin military intervention in Syria and Iran, there is already a reason, especially since the US State Department sent a delegation to Russia.
        1. Mugs
          Mugs April 17 2013 12: 52 New
          +1
          I appeal to those present who have lost one of the most important qualities of a Russian person - kindness.
  8. Canep
    Canep April 17 2013 09: 16 New
    +4
    It would be strange if this ter. there was no act, the Americans are supplying arms and money to the Syrian "freedom fighters", through them Al-Qaeda is also funded by American taxpayers. Well, they are happy to try. In general, I have the feeling that the American elite need terrorists to extort money, and have reason to establish democracy in different countries. I would not be surprised if it turns out that the attacks of September 11.09 and yesterday were arranged by the American CIA themselves. After September 11.09, they had an excuse to get into Afghanistan. and Iraq. Now they will climb into Syria and Iraq.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 17 2013 17: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Canep
      that the American elite need terrorists to extort money

      I agree - very, even, on time.
      Obama will cut the budget, Panimash, and then Terror - right now Congress will make a request, and the printing press will work.
  9. Strashila
    Strashila April 17 2013 09: 17 New
    +3
    There is nothing surprising ... at the beginning, the French met with their students on terrorism in Mali, now the Americans took their final exams in Boston ... all the terrorist attacks in America were carried out by people in one measure or another were agents of their own special services.
  10. Krsk
    Krsk April 17 2013 09: 17 New
    +4
    Pissed snakes are still cunning boots ... Guys, cut, trim, and disarm even before stupefying - but without us. And according to Boston, of course, people are sorry for the sin, but you have "sowed the wind" for 20 years now, collect the "crop"
  11. HAM
    HAM April 17 2013 09: 18 New
    +2
    Cheburan is now selecting candidates for an “answer to the full extent of American justice,” who will it be: Iran, Syria, the DPRK ?? Who is next for the distribution?
    1. Anon
      Anon April 17 2013 09: 23 New
      -12
      Maybe Russia. That is why we need to purchase normal equipment for the defense of our country - Challengers, Patria, Gripen and attack helicopters Ka-52. With such a complex, no geopolitical godfather is not afraid of us.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm April 17 2013 12: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Anon
        and attack helicopters Ka-52.

        So what's wrong with Apache?
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 12: 07 New
          -3
          They are still inferior in some ways to the Ka-52. There is no crossbow.
      2. viktorR
        viktorR April 17 2013 13: 14 New
        +7
        The reflections of the seventh-class player on the challengers, patrias, and flu grips because the videos with them are beautiful. But it seems like an adult prisoner, uh, sorry man, he said something about his "zone" there. Or was he sitting for 3 months for stealing a bagel, then amnestied?
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 17 2013 17: 44 New
          +5
          Quote: viktorR
          Or was 3 of the month sitting for a kid stealing a bagel, then amnestied?

          Ага.
          And the vowels in the nickname are confused in places ...
          laughing
  12. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 17 2013 09: 18 New
    +6
    Politics however ...... The sonder team from the USA once again tried to confuse us. But we are different, not like in 90's. In general, in the place of Putin, we must pretend that we are actively cooperating, and continue to bend our own line. Strengthen the army and navy, drive a spy and pests by a filthy broom!
    And terrorism must be eradicated with a hot iron, even if it occurs at our sworn "partner".
    P.S. The attack in Boston is too pretended to be in my opinion. International competition, live broadcasting - it looks too much like an organized show ..... during a period of increasing tension in the world, states need to rally their people, the authorities must gain the trust and support of the population, and the terrorist act will just give the US authorities what they want!
  13. radio operator
    radio operator April 17 2013 09: 21 New
    +6
    Terrorist No. 1 - The United States itself was attacked by terrorists.
    The logical result. Although, humanly sorry for the dead and injured citizens.
  14. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 April 17 2013 09: 22 New
    +4
    A simple Americans sorry!
    Exactly. The ladies are fighting - at the lackeys forelocks are cracking. Zadolbali these politicians. And ours and not ours. There are friends living there. They say that hatred of the Russians does not hover there among the people, as they are crushing us. And on the subject if, then I’m sure that this was done by a lunatic psycho.
  15. El-bog
    El-bog April 17 2013 09: 23 New
    12
    Two acts of violence ...
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 17 2013 09: 54 New
      13
      Michael McFaul.
  16. fenix57
    fenix57 April 17 2013 09: 26 New
    -2
    Well done GDP finally put the snickering amers in their place!
    Not good of course, but here they FEEL what pain and fear are. They forgot quickly the World Trade, they were reminded. hi
    1. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 11: 46 New
      +2
      about how, it turns out that our GDP is not just the leader of the country, but also a "superhero": not only manages to manage the country, but it can also soak up brazen Americans in the toilet ...
      how wonderful it is that you manage to distort information in favor of the bourgeoisie and against the country ... it would now turn out, according to your words, that the GDP doesn’t kill bandits in the toilet, but innocent peaceful Americans ... yeah, the villain is still the same ... you have never seen before. .. it is necessary to remove it from the authorities as soon as possible - like we will arrange a revolution ...

      In short zadolbali already tinker with their trollism and mislead site users. one consolation, site visitors, as a rule, have a Soviet education and are not afraid of such moral ones that need to be crushed like cockroaches ... lately you read articles on the forum, such a feeling sometimes develops (it’s good that it’s not always) that the site is dominated by trolls of all suits.

      And judging by the changing rhetoric of these characters, their curators are not fools, but the courts draw conclusions about the attitude of users to trolling on the forum ... In short, they troll more cunningly ... But not for Russians, we see you, you can’t hide from us!
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 April 17 2013 13: 37 New
        +1
        Little trolls, more fools
        1. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 14: 22 New
          +1
          and that trolls cannot be fools? belay
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 17 2013 13: 36 New
      0
      Yes, who is it? Now, if the White House and the Pentagon were blown up, then they would have been "reminded." People would be sorry for the innocent.
    3. Dejavu
      Dejavu April 18 2013 05: 27 New
      0
      Frozen nonsense, dear. What does the gdp have to do with it? Anyway, gloating on the bones is not a Russian style.
  17. DPN
    DPN April 17 2013 09: 26 New
    0
    the Russian media owns a green $ dollar, All former friends where our bases were, they just like their people consider cattle.
  18. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 17 2013 09: 27 New
    +2
    , crap, which tomorrow may be reviewed ten times by the United States itself. The history of the “partnership” with the USA has already taught Russia that, God forbid, agreeing on something is more expensive for yourself: tomorrow they will replay, re-speak and declare that it should be so from a democratic point of view ...

    Well, what about! USA is the master of his word. He wants to give, wants, takes back.
  19. marsavin.yu
    marsavin.yu April 17 2013 09: 31 New
    +2
    It’s necessary to bring down from fucking America! And best of all to Russia. So many have already done! (This is a hint at a double-edged club)
    1. Anon
      Anon April 17 2013 09: 47 New
      -30
      Yes, but we also need to carry out reforms. I suggest so make your adjustmentswhat do not agree with:

      1. Granting independence to Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachay-Cherkessia and North Ossetia (the latter is in question) unilaterally.
      2. The construction of a protective anti-immigrant wall on the border with the separated republics, the introduction of a visa-free regime with the United States.
      3. The introduction of a visa regime with separate republics, as well as all CIS countries except Belarus.
      4. Deprivation of Russian citizenship of all residents of the separated republics.
      5. Immediate deportation of a legal immigrant if he commits a crime in Russia.
      6. The return of the column "nationality" in the passport.
      7. The abolition of article No. 282 and the introduction of an article instead of her for insulting the national dignity of the Russian and American nations.
      8. The abolition of all nat. republics and nat. autonomous okrugs as part of Russia and transforming them into oblasts, or joining other oblasts.
      9. Replacing the concept of “Russian” with “Russian”.
      10. Russification and assimilation of national minorities, especially Tatars, Bashkirs, Yakuts and Ossetians.
      11. Social reforms: introduction of free education (including higher education) work with youth (patriotic structures by analogy with pioneers and Komsomol).
      12. Support for national culture (films, music, literature).

      PS The flag of Russia is black-yellow-white, the coat of arms is a black two-headed eagle on a yellow background with a sword and scepter in its paws, without crowns and George the Victorious, in the image of the coat of arms of the Russian Republic of 1917. The anthem is also subject to change.
      1. Perch_xnumx
        Perch_xnumx April 17 2013 11: 19 New
        +6
        1. Granting independence to Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachay-Cherkessia and North Ossetia (the latter is in question) unilaterally.
        And what's next in line: Tatarstan, the Far East, Siberia. Or do you think that the independence parade in the republics you have indicated will stop? Or do you think that the Islamists, having received freedom in these territories, will stop there, go to Russia, endless rebels, independence fighters, sponsors of the Islamists, an endless stream of drugs will begin. How are you going to block the border, because having gained independence, people from these republics will receive unlimited freedom, no control.
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 11: 26 New
          -12
          You are mistaken. It will turn out one united and united Russian nation.
          1. Perch_xnumx
            Perch_xnumx April 17 2013 11: 45 New
            +3
            In America, the Arabs are not considered people, they are shamelessly shot from drones, instructors are training militants for Syria, but they are silently approving, watching how ships with weapons sail to Syria. And terrorist acts in Syria are not terrorist attacks, and people are not people. Here's an American-style doctrine that means a nation.
            You forget that Russia has “friends” who are ready to do anything to turn it into a kind of Syria and share wealth among the elite, at the same time giving values ​​like families for homosexuals and other perverts.
            The Caucasus issue can be resolved; it is a question of the professionalism of the special services. All the Islamists and their sponsors under the hood, cell phones for wiretapping, mass recruiting agents (even if you take a small part of bribes and kickbacks in the country, it’s a lot of money, you can create the best agent in the world), equip our special forces with the most modern means and weapons: sniper locator, scanning, interception and jamming stations, combat remote robots, satellite communications, small arms like in Israel for firing from an angle and obstacles, the most modern noise and gas grenades and ammunition, smart programmable and guided mines, tracking sensors, small and mini-drones. And finally, preparation, it’s unpleasant to read, the commando died there, died there, went there and fell into the basement, I don’t understand, is it really impossible to throw this basement bunker with noise and gas ammunition so that their eyes pop out and then storm.
            1. Anon
              Anon April 17 2013 11: 57 New
              -3
              My plan will not allow this. Its essence lies precisely in uniting the nation around a single goal and idea - the Russian state.
            2. Warchief
              Warchief April 17 2013 12: 18 New
              -4
              Quote: Perch_1
              Here in America, Arabs do not consider people

              And rightly so, however.
              1. Anon
                Anon April 17 2013 12: 25 New
                -4
                Monkey (!), Tell me, are you a nationalist?
              2. Perch_xnumx
                Perch_xnumx April 17 2013 13: 58 New
                +2
                Everyone has red blood, children, women and the elderly are the same everywhere. Not only Arabs are not people in America, but also Serbs, Russian children are people of a different sort. First Arab then you. Or do you think the government will stand on ceremony with the citizen if there comes a kind of artificially created "threat to national security." We read differently “a threat to the world elite to capital and world bigwigs with their world order”.
              3. phantom359
                phantom359 April 17 2013 23: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Warchief
                Quote: Perch_1
                Here in America, Arabs do not consider people

                And rightly so, however.

                And my friends of Americans do not consider people as people. However, the Arabs are not sugar, but the Americans are worse, definitely.
              4. Dejavu
                Dejavu April 18 2013 05: 30 New
                0
                That’s the Amer’s flag on the avatar :)
          2. CTEPX
            CTEPX April 17 2013 16: 49 New
            0
            Quote: Anon
            It will turn out one united and united Russian nation.


            Caliphate? New Hitler Youth?
            Divider of Russia ...
      2. bord731
        bord731 April 17 2013 12: 02 New
        +4
        Forgive me for the tactlessness of Anon - after such statements, I think you need to check with a doctor, brainwave ...
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 12: 08 New
          -2
          Which item does not suit you?
          1. bord731
            bord731 April 17 2013 12: 22 New
            +2
            In my opinion, the brightest thoughts of "you" were visited in the 11th and 12th points, I won’t even discuss the rest - the usual nonsense of a nibble-cloak ...
            1. Anon
              Anon April 17 2013 12: 24 New
              -3
              What are you, "der untermensh"? : D
      3. Clueless
        Clueless April 17 2013 13: 10 New
        +3
        You would be treated, take the pills. For such a frostbitten current can write.
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 13: 12 New
          -1
          Nothing to say in the case?
      4. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 April 17 2013 13: 41 New
        0
        Maybe it’s better to send you to an uninhabited island in the area of ​​the Kuril ridge. And live there according to your own ideas. We are simple people here.
      5. Old warrant officer
        Old warrant officer April 17 2013 15: 44 New
        +3
        The first 5 points - in my opinion, this is nonsense, 6 - maybe 7 - I don’t give a damn about the “dignity of the American nation”, because there is no such thing as the American nation, and it’s difficult to define the very concept of insult. You’ve sung something about the males in the zone, and the Americans are legalizing and encouraging them, paragraphs 8 and 9 - I agree, 10 - practically impossible, 11, 12 I completely agree! FLAG AND COAT OF ARMS TO CHANGE NO SENSE, AND IF AND CHANGE, THEN BACK TO SOVIET, under which Russia has reached its highest prosperity and power!
      6. lazy
        lazy April 17 2013 19: 21 New
        0
        Quote from the movie: "Uncle are you?" , most likely just a provocateur, pop hapon
  20. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel April 17 2013 09: 32 New
    +5
    Friends of America began their democratization efforts. The next move is the announcement of a no-fly zone over SyShyA. However.
  21. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 09: 39 New
    +8
    It may not be Christian, but I am not sorry for the victims of this attack. It sounds cruel, of course, but why should I feel sorry for these people with the tacit consent of which they perished, perish and will perish millions of people around the world in the struggle for crap? Let all the charms of the actions of that monster that they let out be experienced in their own skin. They opened the Pandora's box - let them yourself and disentangle.
    1. Anon
      Anon April 17 2013 09: 42 New
      -17
      But what if not democracy? Totalitarianism? How did you want it in the USSR?
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 09: 48 New
        12
        I lived and lived well in the USSR, of course there was a lot of bad things, but to deny and forget that there was a lot of good things was criminal. The USSR did not kill innocent people around the world in millions under the guise of false ideals and far-fetched slogans. Who does not like Russia and who has forgotten the history of our great country - a suitcase, a train station, well .... welcome to American paradise)). Good luck.
        1. Anon
          Anon April 17 2013 09: 53 New
          -13
          PURE-PURE? What about the war in Korea? And in Vietnam? And the different Angolans, where did they deliver weapons and pit the kings there? And in Ethiopia-Eritrea? Everywhere the Reds pushed their ideology, including by military means. What about afghan? Or still in 2013 do you believe in World-Labor-May?
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 10: 06 New
            +8
            I don’t need to poke firstly, secondly we didn’t bleed anyone, and thirdly, if we brought anything bad to this world, then our fathers and grandfathers paid for it with their blood for a long time and for many decades now we’ve been trying to keep it’s right that no one could reproach Russia with the wrong policy. All of the above can not be said about the United States and their murderous, inhuman and bloody policies. Recover or grow up.
            1. Anon
              Anon April 17 2013 10: 12 New
              -13
              Let me remind you once again of the list: the war in Korea, in Vietnam, various Angola, in Ethiopia-Eritrea. And of course, Afghanistan, where peaceful Soviet citizens carried communism with the help of thermobaric bombs and carpet floorings. Waiting for amazing stories about "world peace."
              1. revnagan
                revnagan April 17 2013 12: 25 New
                11
                Quote: Anon
                Let me remind you once again of the list: the war in Korea, in Vietnam, various Angola, in Ethiopia-Eritrea. And of course, Afghanistan, where peaceful Soviet citizens carried communism with the help of thermobaric bombs and carpet floorings.

                I read your posts and I wonder if I’m a fool included, or really, “for the idea”? In Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Eritrea and Afghanistan, the legitimate governments of the above states asked for help from the USSR. LEGAL, UNDER THE AUTHORITY. And who asked for help from the USA in Libya, Yugoslavia (where the massacre was mutual, but the Slavs turned out to be “barbarians, and Muslims and Croats were“ affected by the genocide. ”) Who called the Pin.Do.s in Vietnam, Korea, Angola? The USA came there first, not And thermobaric ammunition was used against the so-called "rebels" in the mountain fortified areas in order to save the lives of our soldiers ... Amers do not hesitate to crush everyone in a row, peaceful ambition does not bother them. They will scramble from the "drone" over the crowd of children in Pakistan -Afgan, and at least henna. Well, think of these wild children, terrorists would still grow up ... But I would like to hear more about carpet bombing in Vietnam and Afghanistan. Don’t share a link? I know about Amerov’s .Al weak?
                1. Anon
                  Anon April 17 2013 12: 28 New
                  -5
                  Yeah. And in Korea, too, the peaceful North Korean people moved to the south, who vilely asked for help from the imperialist marines.

                  Amer’s are not shy about crushing everyone in a row, peaceful ambition doesn’t bother them. They’ll flock from the “drone” over the crowd of children in Pakistan-Afghanistan, and at least henna. Well, think about it, terrorists would have grown up from these wild children ...

                  That is, the USSR behaved differently in Afghanistan (!)? Yeah, yeah, cool. One story is more amazing than another simply.
                  1. dusha233
                    dusha233 April 17 2013 15: 35 New
                    +3
                    PEOPLE DO NOT PAY ATTENTIONS TO THIS TROL Anon let himself please his nonsense
    2. Uzoliv
      Uzoliv April 17 2013 11: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      It may not be Christian, but I am not sorry for the victims of this attack. It sounds cruel, of course, but why should I feel sorry for these people with the tacit consent of which they perished, perish and will perish millions of people around the world in the struggle for crap?

      And then we need to figure out who suffered more. The event was international; Russian citizens were also at it. Of the three dead, one foreigner is a Chinese citizen. How many foreigners among the wounded are no statistics yet. The more visitors will suffer, the greater will be the rhetoric that the US is the leader of the international counterterrorism community.
    3. Dejavu
      Dejavu April 18 2013 05: 35 New
      +3
      Not all Americans FOR their bullshit. You will recall how many thousand people went to share 99% and sat for weeks defending their rights. What has the power done? - Yes, with bludgeons they stupidly dispersed and the whole business. So the Amer nation (citizens) are ordinary hostages of their masters at the top. The media are telling them that it is SO necessary and they believe. Do you know that Georgians sincerely believed that Russia attacked first during the 5-day war? The grandmother watched the telly, and there Sobakashvili said that we were poop, chewing on our tie. So I'm sorry amers. Ordinary people with no choice. For the Democrats, the Republicans, are like a sickle and a hammer - one office.
  22. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 17 2013 09: 41 New
    +3
    It’s very a pity for ordinary Americans, who again act as simple pawns in the game of their special services, but for all the rest for some reason it is precisely him who is inflated to incredible proportions, and they do not pay attention to the massacre in Syria, because there is complete lawlessness there, what are these double standards in action?
    1. Perch_xnumx
      Perch_xnumx April 17 2013 11: 24 New
      +2
      By and large, the American elite do not care about their citizens. The main elite and its business. September 11 terrorist attack why modestly removed to the corner, al-Qaeda and that's it. I still do not understand the physical principles of how a huge skyscraper collapsed exactly vertically. I saw this only through the discovery, when the building’s strikers demolished it, examined it for a long time, laid explosives, then blew it up and fell vertically exactly. None of them tried to ram the building by plane. By what principle did the twin towers collapse?
      1. Clueless
        Clueless April 17 2013 13: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Perch_1
        I still do not understand the physical principles of how a huge skyscraper collapsed exactly vertically. I saw this only through the discovery, when the building’s strikers demolished it, examined it for a long time, laid explosives, then blew it up and fell vertically exactly. None of them tried to ram the building by plane. By what principle did the twin towers collapse?


        a skyscraper is built around the central axis, well, imagine a needle stuck in the ground, and around it, a structure is erected floor after floor

        this base did not withstand the load from overheating, because the temperature was very high, at first the upper part began to crumble, and it began to give a load to the lower floors and it simply developed, and the “axis” did not allow it to go aside
        1. Perch_xnumx
          Perch_xnumx April 17 2013 13: 46 New
          0
          You can build arguments at the schoolchild level in 3D max and math models. Uncle is impossible to fall evenly. For some reason, none of the scientists and engineers undertook to substantiate this theory, with calculation calculations and the construction of an experimental model. And if it came from the conclusions of the ears in the tube would be wrapped.
        2. Dejavu
          Dejavu April 18 2013 06: 17 New
          0
          I then do not understand why the "spoke" did not stay to stand at least 25 floors further. Somehow, the house fell very much under the "zero". Recently I saw a skyscraper burning. So there is a continuous torch! The frame still remained, a kind of skeleton of the building. Nothing has fallen anywhere. And there were about a dozen such fires in skyscrapers in history, not a single one even heeled. I do not believe that 10 monkeys did this. If everything was so simple, the amers would have choked in the attacks, for there are a dime a dozen of such monkeys in the Middle East.

          Here's a fun video about the fall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhfJhd6QL9o
  23. DPN
    DPN April 17 2013 09: 42 New
    0
    The green dollar has long been the owner of the Russian media, all the more so since they are all almost privately owned.
    they have one example of the state, so they really do not care about the same DPRK which is simply poisoned and strangled with all sorts of embargoes.

    Therefore, the states climb into all the cracks, and simple people will teach the change. Recently, they showed an example by tele-box.
  24. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 09: 51 New
    +3
    Quote: Anon
    In Syria, then? There is enough fun for another year. The end of the edge is not visible.
    What are you carrying? What fun? CHILDREN die there, innocent people, are you having fun?
    1. Anon
      Anon April 17 2013 09: 57 New
      -9
      I say that the war will continue for a long time. If they like to fight, let them fight, since their own children do not care about them.
      1. Raphael_83
        Raphael_83 April 17 2013 20: 41 New
        0
        That is, do you propose that the Syrians, who support a legitimate government, try to live by secular laws and do not fall into total Islamic insanity, surrender to the mercy of the most natural Basmachis? In the hope that they will not cut, and sell at most in sexual slavery or in Afghan drug laboratories for experiments? fool
  25. Bosk
    Bosk April 17 2013 09: 52 New
    +4
    I don’t want to show cynical ... but somehow this attack coincides with the withdrawal of troops ... on the one hand it is a tragedy, but this tragedy happened very profitably for the leadership of America ... we must wait for the soldiers to throw up a budget and a new one will appear soon candidate for democratization.
    1. HAM
      HAM April 17 2013 10: 04 New
      +1
      With cynics you yourself need to be a cynic.
    2. Garrin
      Garrin April 17 2013 11: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Bosk
      soon a new candidate for democratization will appear.

      Why soon? Already appeared, and next to it completely. Look, in Venezuela it’s already necessary to arrange a rusty revolution.
      1. Bosk
        Bosk April 17 2013 13: 22 New
        0
        Here it seems to me that it’s not a new war game ... it’s just that the Americans have recently had a kind of victorious euphoria, and this attack seems to be a successful reminder ... like THE ENEMY IS NOT NAPPING but WE WILL WIN ...
  26. Petrovich-2
    Petrovich-2 April 17 2013 09: 55 New
    +1
    the American ambassador to Russia, who has fallen somewhat into the informational shadow lately (apparently, in connection with the well-known “problems” NGOs funded from abroad),

    Sorry, I'm sorry that a little off topic, a digression, so to speak, but I have to clarify the attacks on NGOs.
    In accordance with the American field charters, well, for example, FM 2-0, FM 2-01.3 NGOs can perform specific functions of collecting information. Actually, charters related to Intelligence begin at 2.
    Sorry if not the topic. But you can draw conclusions yourself.
    1. Fornit
      Fornit April 17 2013 11: 42 New
      0
      Someone doubted ...
  27. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 17 2013 09: 57 New
    +3
    no, after all, pi-ndo-sskoye guides of the creature. how painful they are, so start yelling, take pity on us. and after all, ordinary people regret from the heart. but admit the bombings in Damascus, no, this is a struggle for freedom. hoopoes
  28. xmike
    xmike April 17 2013 10: 04 New
    0
    To climb somewhere one terrorist attack is not enough .....
    If there is a "continuation" means climb
  29. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO April 17 2013 10: 05 New
    +6
    American walkers left sloppy slanders. The visit is really a theater of the absurd. With one hand, the United States is pouring mud on Russia and Putin with Magnitsky’s law, and with the other hand it pulls like “let's live in peace”. America resembles a schizophrenic, and armed. And the position of Putin and Lavrov is correct in response to attacks with Magnitsky's information flow on violations of children's rights in the United States, led by Pavel Astakhov. Putin took the envelope, well, well, just in the toilet, it’s good to read and use aposl.
    The fact that the 9/11 terrorist act was made by the US special services and the goat is understandable, and this is their business too. In the United States, the Great Depression-2 with all the affairs of the first is rumbling, such as hunger, unemployment, increased crime, etc., and also introduce a “dry law” for complete happiness. This is an attempt by the authorities to distract their citizens from internal problems and blame Islamic terrorists for their troubles, which are de facto special forces of the CIA.
    Let’s see that they will sing who the scapegoats will be, now not 10 years ago, Russia gained muscle, but it blows with China in one blow and therefore the choice of target is limited.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 17 2013 17: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: GOLUBENKO
      The Great Depression-2 is scrambling in the USA ... This is an attempt by the authorities to distract their citizens from internal problems and blame Islamic terrorists for their troubles, which are de facto special forces of the CIA.

      Yes.
      AND.
      By the logic of things, some more events of the same level should follow (no more towers left ...).
  30. The gentleman
    The gentleman April 17 2013 10: 08 New
    +2
    sorry for the victims, but! I'm afraid that American democracy will look for reasons, the perpetrators of the attack itself are not in America itself, but for example in Syria. which has happened more than once ...
  31. Bordered MMG
    Bordered MMG April 17 2013 10: 10 New
    0
    More like a joke about a moose-sexual maniac who, with the words "Good evening," strives to settle in behind!
  32. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 17 2013 10: 15 New
    0
    Quote: El-bog
    Two acts of violence ...

    That's it - the policy of double standards, and beyond the standards of people's lives.
  33. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 April 17 2013 10: 26 New
    +1
    I think now America will declare that the militants of Syria or Iran did the terrorist attack and maybe even the DPRK and then there will be an occasion to send troops into a foreign country. In short, another seizure of land and resources. A terrorist attack was committed by US intelligence. All very simply the same method of Afghanistan and Benladen.
  34. PDM80
    PDM80 April 17 2013 10: 26 New
    +1
    Deja vu since September 2001 !!! If only the Americans showed ingenuity fool
  35. redwar6
    redwar6 April 17 2013 10: 32 New
    +1
    The Americans will soon go crazy, EVERYWHERE TERRORISTS! EVERYWHERE TERRORISTS! AL QAEDA'S GUILTY ALL! AND MORE SYRIA!
    And so roll, then each will recognize the terrorist ..
    1. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 April 17 2013 20: 46 New
      0
      But these Russians are “cut out by censorship” and refuse to America massively impose “democratic” standards, and at the UN they have the audacity to initiate Western initiatives ... (this was sarcasm, if that) ...
  36. Eric
    Eric April 17 2013 10: 40 New
    0
    U.S. Weapons Ban Act ...
  37. Mhpv
    Mhpv April 17 2013 10: 45 New
    0
    Remember, there was such a song, “Cuba is far, Cuba is far, Cuba is near, Cuba is near ...” and if you change the words of Cuba to America, it turns out that they let you know that no matter how far you are, you are nearby and you can have a fight for your Wed ... yu democracy by your own rules.
  38. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO April 17 2013 10: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Eric
    Weapons Ban Act in the USA ..

    Weapon tycoons have already said "people kill, not weapons," that is, you went America tries.
    Although the nation whose ancestors were the lessons of all Britain, murderers, rapists and thieves, they can’t tweet without a wave.
    1. Anon
      Anon April 17 2013 11: 05 New
      -7
      Tell me something about concepts.
  39. krez-74
    krez-74 April 17 2013 10: 46 New
    +3
    While the US government and the world behind the scenes are weaving intrigues, pumping out raw materials and capital, the simple people of the USA come to the brink when they fall into chaos, civil war and poverty. The authorities, I’m sure, in which case, will quickly move to a warm place, which is obviously prepared! So with the rest of the world, which fell under the influence of the United States. There is no question of countries left outside America’s influence, but they have one task, to resist and not fall into any trap.
    The people of the United States are sorry, because he lived for a long time behind pink glasses, and this was regulated from the moment of birth until the death of a person. The pink glasses began to subside ...
  40. SHOGUN
    SHOGUN April 17 2013 10: 47 New
    +7
    Matches? A few days before the "terrorist attack", a rally is being held in Washington against drones flying over US cities. And after a couple of days, bombs explode. Not much somehow, but they explode. I think that the formation of public opinion has begun in favor of the use of drones. Have Americans stopped being afraid? Now they will draw a new trait!
  41. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 17 2013 10: 50 New
    +3
    I would throw off such things partisan all over the world!
    Not one trillion of democratized people will be typed, and even those whom the Democrats themselves got!

    Or maybe it’s the rebels who have to support financially ???
  42. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov April 17 2013 10: 51 New
    +7
    I absolutely agree with Volodin ... Article +. I want to add that at this stage no negotiations, except talking about anything, need to be conducted with them ... We met, laughed and fled ... In general, these bad people must be kept at a distance of a shot .... Their place, together with their pederasts, should be under the bunks, and not at the negotiating table on equal terms ....
  43. piterkras
    piterkras April 17 2013 11: 10 New
    +4
    The attack was carried out by US intelligence agencies in order to limit the parasites and freedoms of ordinary Americans under the pretext of protecting them from terrorism, and to resolve their geopolitical interests. Some terrorist organization, such as Hezbollah, will be called guilty, and they will fly that country to democratize. All this has already passed. It was never a forbidden thing for the US government to waste its citizens for the prosperity of their country.
  44. Opera
    Opera April 17 2013 11: 12 New
    +5
    This act of terrorism alone shows very accurately, without cuts - the insecurity of ordinary people around the world! Terrorism is religious, state, state - religious, maybe globalist ..., the essence is the same - fear, grief, death, misunderstanding of what happened, as in the eyes of this girl in the photo! The scary thing is that this can really happen anywhere! Which side do not look at all this is the result of the so-called unipolar world! Figuratively speaking, one cannot close oneself in one’s apartment, even with a very good armored door, with bars on the windows and wait until the completely uncleaned punks are no longer carried around with sticks and knives, but with machine guns and ...
    Anything like this could be done by anyone from scumbags - who read on the Internet how to make a bomb (for that, sorry for cynicism, unprofessionalism and a small number of victims, to the notorious shadow government (it hurts too good time to further expand the spheres of influence by spreading controlled chaos) ! I bow nevertheless to the second.
    But the conclusion is the same for us, the same priorities - the army, navy, special services, a tough foreign and no less tough domestic policy without any NGOs and home-grown revolutionaries!
  45. sibircat
    sibircat April 17 2013 11: 21 New
    +1
    Mr. Donilon and his ilk according to the special task of President Obama decided to raise the question that it is time to begin to reduce the volume of nuclear weapons

    And you would not all go on ....!
    Before shrunk already. Want peace, do not touch others !!!
    1. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 April 17 2013 20: 50 New
      +1
      Better cut yours! We can correctly evaluate this.
  46. Larus
    Larus April 17 2013 11: 26 New
    +2
    Yes, it’s a pity for ordinary Americans, all their “independent media” have been so trashy about them, and the handwriting of radical terrorists smacks of CIA officers, because terrorists know how to blow up so that there will be many more victims. The next company will be held under the pretext of protecting America from terrorism and in reality it will limit residents in everything.
  47. smprofi
    smprofi April 17 2013 11: 28 New
    +1
    Бостон





    ... and they rushed.

    Korea. North. Pyongyang. and also a marathon, just a day before Boston.




    and here everything is quiet ...

    and the most interesting thing is that before the explosions in Boston (April 12), a gringo was very vividly discussed by a schoolboy from Florida who wrote "I am ready to give up some of my constitutional rights in exchange for greater security [I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure.] "



    Dad was unhappy. I wonder what he thinks now?
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 17 2013 17: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: smprofi
      Dad was unhappy. I wonder what he thinks now?

      Dad is no longer involved in long-distance races.
      He does not run at all.
  48. dmitrich
    dmitrich April 17 2013 11: 30 New
    0
    This is the response of the Pin Dossia special services on the budget cut announced by Obama.
  49. xmike
    xmike April 17 2013 11: 31 New
    +6
    I hope the envelope that was handed over to Putin will not cause cancer or something .....
  50. urchik
    urchik April 17 2013 11: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: Vrungel78
    A simple Americans sorry!

    Why feel sorry for them? They choose their presidents, they fight in all over the world, they consume more energy and food in the world.
    1. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 April 17 2013 20: 53 New
      +1
      And with their fast-food food (more precisely local, but cooked according to their recipes), they are happy to poison fans of Russian, Tatar, Caucasian, Czech, Bavarian cuisine ...