How the advanced financial system of the USSR was destroyed

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How the advanced financial system of the USSR was destroyed
General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee M. S. Gorbachev. 1987.


Restructuring of state governing bodies


In addition to the particularly harsh “restructuring” of the security forces – the KGB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Soviet Army, in essence, this was a pogrom with the aim of completely discrediting and denigrating the service class ("Suitcase, station - Russia!"), the destruction of state governing bodies took place.



This was a radical "reform" (pogrom) of the entire management structure. In one year, as part of the transition to "economic management methods" and full business accounting of enterprises in the industries, the middle management link was eliminated with the transition to a two-link "ministry - plant" system. Almost 600 thousand people were cut in the central management bodies of the USSR and the republics. The number of structural divisions of the central apparatus was reduced by 40%.

The information system of the national economy was destroyed. Since the USSR did not yet have a computer system for the accumulation, storage and distribution of information, experienced personnel with their card files were the main elements of the system. Now they were sent to the "dump". Documentation and card files were dumped in storage rooms, in archives, and essentially disappeared.

This became one of the important reasons for the ensuing devastation of the last years of the USSR. In essence, the informational, economic collapse and chaos were deliberately organized to make it easier to destroy the Red Empire.

In 1987, the process of merging and separating ministries began. There was no unified system. It was a real "ministerial hodgepodge", familiar to us from the last years of the Russian Empire, when preparations were underway to destroy the autocracy and Great Russia.

Thus, the USSR Ministry of Construction was "zoned" - on its basis, 4 ministries were created, responsible for construction in different regions of the USSR. In 1989, they were abolished. Six agricultural departments were liquidated, and the USSR State Agro-Industrial Committee was established. In 1989, it was abolished, and some of its functions were taken over by the State Commission of the Council of Ministers of the USSR for Food and Procurement. It was liquidated in April 1991 and the USSR Ministry of Agriculture was created.

The same chaos was going on in other ministries and departments. In fact, since 1986, the central management apparatus of the economy has been destroyed. It is easier to catch fish in muddy water.

The destruction of the financial system and the consumer market


The Soviet financial system had two basic features that helped create the autocratic Soviet superpower, independent of the capitalist and dollar systems.

The first is that a special financial system of two circuits successfully operated in the Soviet Union. Non-cash money was used in production, the amount of which was determined by the inter-industry balance, and which was repaid by mutual offsets.

In essence, in the Union there was no financial capital and loan (parasitic) interest, which enriches a handful of oligarchs, plutocrats and bankers, as in the Russian Federation since the 1990s and 2000s, who have been living fat at the expense of the country’s natural resources and the exploitation of the people.

The consumer goods market was circulated with ordinary money received by the population in the form of salaries, pensions, benefits, etc. Their quantity was strictly regulated in accordance with the mass of cash goods and services. This allowed maintaining low prices and preventing inflation. Such a system worked effectively until the systems of the two circuits mixed - non-cash money was not converted into cash.

The second feature is the fundamental non-convertibility of the ruble. In the late 80s and 90s, there was a lot of laughing at the "wooden ruble". In fact, the exchange of the ruble for currency was only beneficial to a narrow layer of the new rich, the "new Russians", the new nobility in a rapidly degrading Russia, quickly losing the achievements of the most advanced civilization on Earth - the Soviet one. Such an exchange was also beneficial to the owners of the USA, who in exchange for their "green wrappers" (cut paper) received real resources - oil, gas, timber, ore, gold, uranium, etc.

The scale of prices in the USSR was completely different from that on the world market, and the ruble could only circulate within the country. This allowed each Soviet citizen to receive their dividends from public property, for example, in the form of low prices, low housing and communal services tariffs, etc. Therefore, the contour of cash had to be strictly closed in relation to the external market by the state monopoly of foreign trade.

The "perestroika" destroyers destroyed this harmonious and effective system. In 1988-1989, both contours of the financial system were exposed. First of all, the monopoly on foreign trade was abolished. From the beginning of 1987, 20 ministries and 70 large enterprises received the right to conduct export-import operations. A year later, the Ministry of Foreign Trade and the State Committee for Economic Relations of the USSR were liquidated. The Ministry of Foreign Economic Relations was established, which only had the right to regulate foreign trade. By the law of 1990, local Soviets also received the right to foreign trade.

Thus, the opportunity was created to plunder the people's wealth, enrich various kinds of speculators, social parasites. For the creation of "shadow" capital.

Thus, according to the "Law on Cooperatives" (1988), a network of cooperatives and joint ventures quickly emerged at state enterprises and local councils. Only they did not have a production character, as under Stalin, but a trading, parasitic-robber character in relation to the national economy. They were engaged in the export of goods abroad, which sharply reduced their supply to the domestic market and worsened the situation of Soviet citizens who had nothing to do with this "celebration of life."

It was a very profitable exchange, on which businessmen made fortunes. Thus, many goods during speculation gave revenue of up to 50 US dollars per 1 ruble of expenses and therefore were bought up from enterprises in full. Some products (for example, aluminum cookware) were turned into scrap and sold as material. According to experts, in 1990, 1/3 of consumer goods were exported. Naturally, all this was at the expense of the country and the people. But a bunch of speculators, the organizers of this robbery operation, became fabulously rich.

It is obvious that and The countries of the West and East also got their gesheft-profit. The plundering of the Soviet civilization, which saved the capitalist system from another crisis and, possibly, catastrophe, was gaining momentum.


Queue for food cards, 1988

Further pogrom


The Law on the State Enterprise (Association) (1987) exposed the contours of non-cash money – it was allowed to convert it into cash. This was a step towards the privatization of the banking system. To a large extent, this work was entrusted to Komsomol activists. The then-created “centers of scientific and technical creativity of youth” (TSNTTM), supervised by the Central Committee of the All-Union Komsomol, received the exclusive right to cash non-cash money. For example, one of the first commercial banks – “Menatep”, before turning into a bank was TsNTTM “Menatep” under the Frunzensky District Committee of the CPSU.

Naturally, this led to the emergence of inflation. The CNTM were called "inflation locomotives".

Under the planned system, such a distribution of enterprise profits was maintained. Example 1985: 56% was contributed to the state budget, 40% remained with the enterprise, including 16% went to economic incentive funds (bonuses, allowances, etc.). In 1990, 36% of enterprise profits were contributed to the treasury, 51% remained with the enterprises. Moreover, 48% went to economic incentive funds.

That is, not only were contributions to the treasury sharply reduced, but almost no funds were left for the development of the enterprises themselves. This led to a sharp jump in personal incomes unrelated to production. The annual increase in the monetary income of the population of the USSR in 1981-1987 averaged 15,7 billion rubles, and in 1988-1990 already 66,7 billion. In 1991, in the first half of the year alone, the monetary income of the population increased by 95 billion rubles.

Funds were siphoned off from capital investments, investments in the future, into simple consumption. The future of the country and the people was "betrayed". "Perestroika" took on the character of a feast during the plague.

This happened with simultaneous inflation and reduction of commodity stocks, which were exported abroad at an accelerated pace. As a result, this led to the collapse of the consumer market - shortages, empty shelves, which the USSR is reproached for. It was necessary to introduce coupons for vodka, sugar and other goods. Imports increased sharply, again enriching traders and countries of the capitalist system.

Until 1989, the Union had a stable positive balance in foreign trade. In 1987, the excess of exports over imports was 7,4 billion rubles, and in 1990, there was a negative balance of 10 billion.

The authorities tried to delay the collapse by further destroying the system: a state budget deficit, growing domestic debt, and selling foreign exchange reserves. The treasury deficit was 1985 billion rubles in 13,9; 1990 billion in 41,4; 9 billion for the first 1991 months of 89. The situation in the RSFSR was even worse: there was no budget deficit until 1989; in 1990 it was already 29 billion rubles, and in 1991 it was 109 billion.

The growth of the deficit was facilitated by the anti-alcohol campaign launched in May 1985. The essence of which was: "started for health, but ended for the dead." The reduction in vodka sales and budget revenues from it were completely offset by its production in the "shadow economy." This dealt a powerful blow to the state treasury and strengthened the position of organized crime, which began the process of merging with rotten representatives of the local administration and the party nomenklatura.

A powerful sector of the "shadow" and "black" (criminal) economy is taking shape, and organized crime is gaining strength. Including the "alcohol mafia", which has effectively privatized the alcohol trade, having withdrawn tens of billions of rubles (at that time still quite substantial) from the budget for its own benefit.

The internal debt of the USSR is growing rapidly: in 1985 – 142 billion rubles; in 1989 – 399 billion (more than 41% of GNP); in 1990 – 566 billion (more than 56% of GNP); for 9 months of 1991 – 890 billion. The gold reserves, which before perestroika amounted to 2 thousand tons, decreased to 1991 tons in 200. The external debt, which was virtually non-existent in 1985, amounted to about 1991 billion dollars in 120.

The wealth of the great power was rapidly stolen, plundered, eaten up, squandered, and transferred to the West and the East.

In 1989, specialized banks (Promstroibank, Agroprombank, etc.) were transferred to business accounting, and in 1990 they began to transform into commercial ones. The nomenklatura and its entourage received the right to engage in highly profitable banking activities.

Thus, the effective Soviet financial system was destroyed, and its transfer to commercial (capitalist) rails began. All this was carried out in the interests of a part of the party-state apparatus, criminal layers associated with the "shadow economy", and a part of the intelligentsia infected with liberal, Western and cosmopolitan ideology.

The common people experienced uncontrolled price increases, a shortage of basic consumer goods, a decline in real incomes, the collapse of the national economy, and the prospect of the collapse of the USSR and turmoil (civil war). The state is losing the ability to fulfill its obligations to its citizens, in particular pensioners. The state has also been driven into bondage to foreign powers (external debt).


Queue for cigarettes, August 25, 1990.
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  1. + 11
    29 July 2025 03: 41
    production cooperatives still used the limits allocated for work to the main enterprise, and the profit was taken by the cooperative managers, who were either legally or indirectly directors or managers of structural divisions of the main production. Failure to fulfill plans for the main production due to a lack of material limits or equipment being loaded with work for the production cooperative was not punished in any way. Labor discipline also collapsed sharply. Seeing this mess, the workers simply gave up on it.
  2. +7
    29 July 2025 04: 40
    Quote: Samsonov Alexander
    Queue for cigarettes, August 25, 1990.
    You can survive the queue for cigarettes, but at that time there were also queues for bread, that was really scary.
    1. +6
      29 July 2025 05: 30
      Never seen it. There were lines for milk and sour cream. And for bread, 15 people maximum. And that was when they were selling donuts with jam!
      1. +3
        29 July 2025 07: 03
        Quote: Stas157
        Never seen it. There were queues for milk and sour cream.
        There were, there were. Towards the very end of the USSR
      2. +3
        30 July 2025 12: 23
        Quote: Stas157
        There were queues for milk and sour cream. And for bread, 15 people maximum.

        There were. In our supermarket, bread was sold practically "from a machine": customers swept away the bakery products in 5-10 minutes after they were put on the shelves. And then that's it - wait for the next machine.
      3. +2
        30 July 2025 16: 08
        in 1990 there definitely were, and damn even in villages.
        as a kid I stood in line for bread when I came to visit my grandmother in the village. All the children and young people of the village stood in line. We sort of met there and talked while the line moved.
        and this is in villages where, in principle, people could bake bread themselves.
    2. + 13
      29 July 2025 05: 38
      The queues for bread in villages and small towns (with the private sector) were due to the fact that it was bought in sacks to feed pigs in households - cheaper than any compound feed, and the animal feed itself was not available in retail.
      1. +1
        29 July 2025 05: 56
        Quote: severok1979
        The queues for bread in villages and small towns (with the private sector) were due to the fact that it was bought in sacks to feed pigs in households - cheaper than any compound feed, and the animal feed itself was not available in retail.

        The article in the Criminal Code for feeding cattle with bread was abolished only after the collapse of the USSR. Therefore, sellers had a "small share" from such buyers
        1. +3
          30 July 2025 09: 13
          However, in our village no one was punished for this, neither the residents nor the sellers. And indeed, many people bought 10-20 loaves of bread.
          1. 0
            30 July 2025 09: 54
            Quote: Sergej1972
            However, in our village no one was punished for this, neither the residents nor the sellers. And indeed, many people bought 10-20 loaves of bread.

            "A small share" - to the seller and from him to the local police officer. The technology was known throughout the USSR.
            If 10 people buy 20 loaves - then the rest of the village will not get any bread. People start to get indignant and pull the button of the saleswoman (if she's not in on it, she'll just let you have 2 loaves of bread and off you go) and the local police officer (if he's not in on it, he'll just wait behind the store for the person who bought 20 loaves and ask them to explain why? And then he'll conduct a search - where he'll find the rest of the bread from the pigs. And he'll chop off a stick!).
            1. +3
              30 July 2025 13: 47
              There was none of that. There was enough bread for everyone. Most of the villagers bought bread in that quantity. The village had its own bakery. By the way, the bread was used to feed poultry, mostly young animals, chickens, ducklings, turkeys, rather than pigs. They chopped grass, for example nettles, mixed it with soaked bread, added boiled eggs for the smallest ones, and for older chicks, grain was added to this mixture. They also added skim milk, sometimes cottage cheese. And sometimes even mixed feed. Although, I will say that people themselves bought bread in much larger quantities back then compared to today. Residents of neighboring small villages, who did not have the opportunity to buy food every day at the store on the central estate, also bought a lot of bread.
              1. 0
                30 July 2025 13: 56
                Naturally, I am writing about the period from the mid-70s to the mid-80s. I admit that in the earlier period everything was much stricter. I think in the 50s - first half of the 60s everything was XNUMX% different.
              2. -1
                30 July 2025 14: 01
                Quote: Sergej1972
                There was none of that. There was enough bread for everyone. Most of the villagers bought bread in that quantity. The village had its own bakery.

                So your bakery had to bake 1000 loaves of bread per 100 households per day? Are you serious??!!! These are the volumes of a small city, not a village...
                I live in a village myself, I saw it and I know - that only a limited number bought - those who the saleswoman allowed. Everyone else quietly stole grain from the fields
      2. +1
        30 July 2025 16: 10
        not for feed. Grandma, due to her age, no longer had pigs or other livestock, the cows did not eat bread. The chickens were fed grain.
        bought for themselves. and what I can't understand is that my grandmother fried pies with all sorts of fillings every day in enamel bowls every morning. and sometimes she baked bread herself, but rarely. but I ran to buy it almost every day. and we bought it specifically for eating.
    3. +2
      29 July 2025 10: 06
      Dya? In 1990, I almost took part in suppressing the tobacco riot when people shut off the iron.
      There was little left :(
    4. +2
      30 July 2025 05: 04
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      but at that time there were also lines for bread, that was actually quite scary

      Probably, it depended on the region, or on the city.
      And also from time to time. In the morning or during the day, there is almost no queue, and in the evening, when people were going home from work, you could stand for about twenty minutes for bread.
      But those selling cigarette butts at the bazaars will remain in my memory for the rest of my life. A half-liter jar of cigarette butts cost something there, I forgot after so many years.
      1. +2
        30 July 2025 09: 56
        Quote: Comrade
        But those selling cigarette butts at the bazaars will remain in my memory for the rest of my life. A half-liter jar of cigarette butts cost something there, I forgot after so many years.

        If Prima/Astra then 5 rubles, with a filter 3-4, Belomor 1-1.5 for a half-liter jar in Moscow
    5. 0
      23 December 2025 14: 43
      The article is in the spirit of, supposedly, the enemies destroyed it, but otherwise everything was fine, advanced.
      I would like to draw an analogy for the author, using the response of Comrade Osipov, a well-known professor at the Theological Academy.
      They are building a mosque in Moscow, and not just one, and Orthodox citizens turned to him for advice, saying, “It’s a disgrace,” saying, “What should we do, what should we do?!”
      The professor's answer boiled down to the fact that Orthodox Christians should strive to be an example for everyone in observing God's commandments, both in their lives and in their daily activities. In this case, no construction of mosques or other such projects will threaten them.
      Mishka Marked and other Shevardnadzes are only the visible tip of the iceberg of accumulated problems in the USSR.
      I wish historical cataclysms could occur without destroying the good old things. Just shake the bad off our feet. And that's all!
      But... That doesn't happen. The transition from one socio-economic formation to another is always catastrophic. And the experience of the Great Revolutions, ours and the French, proves this.
      And the personalities... The communist elite degenerated, like the nobility in its time, only faster.
      The right personalities always correspond to the right historical moment.
      Because certain patterns bring them to power.
  3. + 10
    29 July 2025 05: 25
    from two circuits
    Of the three, foreign trade operations were unavailable to enterprises.
    In general, it is extremely difficult to read such materials authored by Mr. Samsonov: the author does not delve into the topic well, but he fills his propaganda with ringing slogans that make your ears ring. Soviet propaganda is nothing compared to that🤣 Although the topic is fertile.
    1. +5
      29 July 2025 18: 07
      The author is very unsystematic in his presentation of the two-circuit economy, which includes the financial system as an integral part.
      Finances served these contours with the help of various instruments (cash, non-cash rubles, foreign currency foreign trade payments, CMEA rubles, bonds, certificates and other means).
      In theory, there is still no established system for describing the contours of the economy, but it is most often divided in this way.

      The concept of a dual-loop economy
      A dual-loop economy is a system in which two relatively independent economic “loops” coexist:
      The first circuit is the planned, centrally controlled part of the economy, oriented towards heavy industry, the defense complex, and large state enterprises.
      The second circuit is a less formalized, more flexible part, including consumer industry, small businesses, scientific and technological innovations, as well as elements of the shadow or informal economy.
      Causes
      This structure arose as a response to the need to combine strict centralized planning with the need for flexibility and innovative development. The first circuit provided the base and strategic industries, the second - adaptation to changing conditions, satisfaction of consumer demand and the introduction of new technologies.
      Peculiarities and contradictions
      The first circuit was characterized by strict regulations, priority of quantitative indicators and a shortage of consumer goods.
      The second circuit developed less formally, often encountered bureaucratic barriers, but ensured innovation and a certain economic dynamism.
      There was tension and contradiction between the contours, which made the harmonious development of the entire system difficult.
      The role of the dual-loop economy in the development of the USSR
      It was the presence of a two-circuit structure that allowed the Soviet economy to maintain a certain level of development and stability, despite internal restrictions and external challenges. However, in the long term, the contradictions between the circuits became one of the causes of economic difficulties and stagnation.

      The concept of a two-loop finance within the framework of a two-loop economy reflects the division of financial flows, instruments and mechanisms into two relatively independent but interacting levels or systems corresponding to two contours of the economy:
      The first financial circuit is centralized and planned.
      It is formed and managed by government agencies and centralized financial institutions.
      Provides financing for large state-owned enterprises, heavy industry sectors and strategic projects.
      Characterized by strict budget planning, centralized distribution of resources, and the use of state financial instruments (budgets, government loans, interbudget transfers).
      Financial transactions take place within the framework of regulations and plans, with limited flexibility and a high degree of control.
      The second financial circuit is flexible, innovative, consumer
      Includes financial mechanisms aimed at smaller enterprises, cooperatives, innovative projects and the consumer sector.
      Characterized by greater flexibility, the use of market or semi-market instruments, and the ability to respond more quickly to changes in demand and technological challenges.
      Here, elements of financial self-financing, lending based on commercial principles, as well as informal or semi-legal financial transactions appear.
      This circuit helps to stimulate innovation, improve efficiency and adapt the economy.
      Interaction of contours:
      The dual-loop nature of finance provides a balance between the stability and control of centralized planning and the need for flexibility and innovation. Financial flows and instruments of the two loops may intersect, but each loop retains its specificity and functions.
      This division allows the system to combine political goals (through the first circuit) and economic adaptability (through the second), which was especially relevant for the socialist economy of the USSR.
  4. +5
    29 July 2025 05: 39
    The decline of labor discipline has reached its limit. And as a result, major accidents in the country. TO trains are burning in the Urals. Or the passenger "Nakhimov" is sinking. Things are not well on the Volga either. When I came to my native plant, I did not recognize it. It was possible to leave for the second shift after lunch. Although before it was on the minute. The cooperative members, who proudly declare that it was they who pulled the country out, changed the names of the cooperatives in order to avoid paying taxes again. Everything was heading in one direction. People were dissatisfied with the existing government. And they turned it so that they were dissatisfied with the Soviet government. After all, you can wind up even more than that.
  5. +2
    29 July 2025 05: 52
    In addition to the fact that the "Liberator" of the enemies of the communists and the USSR Gorbachev was simply a fool, he wanted to turn the USSR into a pro-Western capitalist State, and to justify the destruction of socialism and the power of the CPSU, he created chaos in the economy, slandered the Bolshevik-communists with an automatic justification of the crimes of their external and internal enemies, organized commodity and food sabotage, when even in the "fattened" Moscow goods and products instantly disappeared, launched a false glorification of "Russia, which we lost" in October 1917 with a delusional anti-Soviet myth that before the communists "Russia fed the whole world", which the enemies of the communists still believe in, glorification of Nicholas II, the "best, the best, the hardest" kulaks.
    1. +8
      29 July 2025 07: 39
      Gorbachev was just a fool

      He was not a fool. He was an enemy, but not a fool. Otherwise, he would have been shot at the very beginning of his activity.
    2. +4
      29 July 2025 11: 43
      Quote: tatra
      slandered the Bolshevik communists, organized sabotage of goods and food

      What's interesting is that these unbending Bolsheviks were beaten and bent over by anyone and everyone, as if they never existed.

      Or maybe they weren't there after all? belay
    3. +1
      29 July 2025 13: 57
      but the Yeltsin Center is still functioning to this day!))))))))))))))))))
    4. +4
      29 July 2025 17: 45
      Tatra, cool down a bit, no one from the top, and especially Gorby, was a fool, he was a slippery, shady type, an intriguer and an agent, most likely, who succeeded in everything, a fool would not have been accepted into a full boarding school, and a fool would not have risen to such a height in the USSR, it is easiest to consider the top of the USSR to be naive idealists, but this is, to put it mildly, far from the truth
      1. -4
        29 July 2025 20: 11
        Yes, he is flesh and blood of yours, enemies of the communists, and you, with your “freedom of speech,” have proven that you are clearly not burdened with intelligence.
        1. +6
          29 July 2025 20: 23
          Quote: tatra
          ... you are all clearly not burdened with intelligence

          And this is said by a character with a vocabulary like Ellochka from 12 Chairs... wow request

          Once again I am forced to state that impudence is inherent not only to the "enemies of communists", but also (to no lesser extent) to their "best friends". And also to robots laughing
        2. 0
          29 July 2025 20: 42
          Quote: tatra
          Yes, he is flesh and blood of yours, enemies of the communists, and you, with your “freedom of speech,” have proven that you are clearly not burdened with intelligence.

          To hell with this intelligence.
          what is not there, is not there laughing

          But knowledge is something that can be acquired! It is surprising that a person seems to have lived for a long time, tries to reason about matter, but has no knowledge on the topic. Only fantasies
          1. +5
            29 July 2025 20: 47
            It is surprising that a person seems to have lived for a long time, tries to reason about matter, but has no knowledge on the topic. Only fantasies
            Dmitry, such an individual feels more comfortable in his fantasies. Why does he need the objective reality given to us in sensations?
            1. +2
              29 July 2025 20: 55
              Hello Sergey Ivanovich hi If I doubt, I look at the computer, I don't want to embarrass myself. Well, somehow I don't want to wink
              Quote: Aviator_
              ... the individual feels more comfortable in his fantasies. Why does he need the objective reality given to us in sensations?
              These are the very words I read in some science fiction novel, or story, or even several......
              1. +3
                29 July 2025 21: 28
                "Objective reality, given to us in sensations" - this is the definition of matter from Dialectical Materialism, I think. I took M-L philosophy (candidate minimum) in 1982, I could have formulated it inaccurately. It was a long time ago. Marx, I think, gave this definition.
                1. +1
                  29 July 2025 21: 35
                  And I am always surprised that you remember a lot, and from different branches of knowledge. And you quickly extract it from your memory at the right moment.
                  My mother is your age, she remembers a lot, but her memories are different from yours.
                  1. +3
                    29 July 2025 22: 09
                    She had another job, and I always tried to examine a phenomenon from all sides, from the socio-political, biological, natural science, etc. Sometimes I succeeded. This is what stuck in my mind during my studies at MIPT. It did not bring me any particular benefits, but I did not come to science for benefits. Not all of our people (and we meet regularly as a class) have such an approach, perhaps I am an exception. The highest position belongs to my classmate Seryoga Chernyshev, he is the vice-president of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and I am not even a doctor. There are 4 doctors in our class, about 30 candidates, this is out of about 80 graduates.
                    1. 0
                      29 July 2025 22: 17
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      ..... my classmate Seryoga Chernyshev, he is the vice-president of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and I am not even a doctor. There are 4 doctors in our class, about 30 candidates, this is out of about 80 graduates.

                      good It's just great! And if only I knew how many and what kind of people you and your colleagues have raised and developed. Research staff! There should be a special study.
                      1. +2
                        30 July 2025 08: 32
                        There's nothing special about it. Many, many people left science in the early 90s. Only 8 of our graduating class are left in our office by now. The coolest "nerd" never got his PhD. Chernyshev was not a nerd. There is still a gap in the age of research staff from 65 to 40 years old, there is practically no one. A failure. "The Holy 90s"
                      2. 0
                        30 July 2025 08: 49
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        ..... a gap in the age of scientific staff from 65 to 40 years old, there is practically no one. A failure. "The Holy 90s"

                        I see. We are still using the SOVIET HERITAGE. But it is already gradually having an effect, this failure will be even stronger
                      3. +1
                        30 July 2025 09: 26
                        No, the failure is only in this range, since the beginning of the 10s people have been slowly coming, I wrote that people have already appeared at the age of about 40 and younger. I have a graduate student and a postgraduate student, they are under 30.
                      4. +1
                        30 July 2025 09: 28
                        When will they grow to your level? And will they grow to it? recourse When you were studying, it seems like you had very few girls? More now? fellow
                      5. 0
                        30 July 2025 09: 31
                        For the entire course (100 students) there were 10-15 of them. Actually, I don't know now. But there are clearly more smart female students. Or is this the result of students being stupid?
                      6. +1
                        30 July 2025 09: 40
                        wink There may be different answers as to why this is so. And we'll see after some time.
                      7. +1
                        30 July 2025 09: 43
                        I think they have better basic school preparation. They (students) are more careful, more diligent, I can't explain it in any other way. Now the failure of distance learning in schools (due to Covid) should end. I hope for the best.
          2. -7
            29 July 2025 20: 47
            Well, yes, like the fantasies of the enemies of the communists - that they know everything, can do everything, that they are the strongest, that they are better than the Soviet communists and their supporters, better than the enemies of the USSR who seized the rest of the republics of the USSR, and in general the enemies of the USSR in the world.
            And at the same time - their 33-year-old choral cowardly whining that they all have “nothing to do” with what they did with their Perestroika.
            There is nothing good or useful for the country and the people in them, or even anything normal or rational.
            And I don't feed the bots.
            1. +4
              29 July 2025 20: 54
              Quote: tatra
              And I don't feed the bots...

              ... or else I myself will have nothing left. Amen Yes
            2. +2
              29 July 2025 21: 05
              Quote: tatra
              .....And I don't feed the bots.

              laughing we can continue ----- I'm just rude to everyone!
              You don't know some facts about Lenin, and you praise Andropov, because instead of correcting real mistakes, you started catching minor violators of discipline with all organs. But you haven't figured out the real enemies
        3. +4
          30 July 2025 12: 25
          Quote: tatra
          Yes, he is flesh of your flesh, enemies of the communists.

          What is characteristic is that all the enemies of the communists were members of the CPSU. And the main enemy headed the communist party. laughing
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            30 July 2025 12: 54
            he had a fig in his pocket when they accepted him into the communists, so it doesn't count laughing
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              30 July 2025 13: 38
              Quote from Mazunga
              he had a fig in his pocket when they accepted him into the communists, so it doesn't count laughing

              Yes, the entire top of the central and national communist parties had money in their pockets.
              That Kravchuk is the head of the agitation and propaganda department, secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, second secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine.
              That Shevi is the first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Georgia, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR, and a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU.

              I don’t even want to remember the First Secretary of the Moscow City Committee of the CPSU and the Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU.
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                30 July 2025 16: 19
                Kravchuk is basically two in one, a Bandera supporter and a secretary of the Central Committee))) just like a Mandingo's cuckoo
                1. +1
                  31 July 2025 10: 57
                  Quote from Mazunga
                  Kravchuk is basically two in one: a Bandera supporter and a secretary of the Central Committee)))

                  Join an organization and destroy it from within has always been the most effective way.
        4. +1
          30 July 2025 12: 53
          Whose I suddenly became an enemy of the communists))? I feel like you're blurting out enemies of the people)? I treat Gorby the way I do because he is a Judas, and I respect ordinary communists even in places, well, idealists, guys, why not respect them for that)? You don't burn infantile individuals or the nuclear electorate in crematoriums, for example, everyone has their own cockroaches and level of intelligence
    5. -2
      29 July 2025 20: 06
      Do you see what the communists did?!
  6. 0
    29 July 2025 06: 02
    How the advanced financial system of the USSR was destroyed

    In what way is it advanced? The author himself then writes about its backwardness:
    Since there was no computer system for accumulating, storing and distributing information in the USSR, experienced personnel with their card files were the main elements of the system.

    That is, instead of computers - ladies with file cabinets.
    In fact, the exchange of the ruble for foreign currency was beneficial only to a narrow layer of the new rich, the “new Russians,” the new nobility in a rapidly degrading Russia.

    The USSR needed foreign currency throughout its entire existence. During the "stagnation years", for example, grain and gas pipes were bought for currency in capitalist countries, i.e. specifically for national and national needs - in the early 1980s there were no "new rich people, "new Russians", new nobility" there was no such thing in the USSR!)))
    Conclusion: even from an analysis of a couple of paragraphs it is clear that we are looking at yet another graphomaniac pseudo-historical pseudo-analysis.
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      29 July 2025 07: 24
      Quote: severok1979
      That is, instead of computers - ladies with file cabinets.

      There were computers in the USSR. ES-EVM, SM-EVM were at every enterprise and in every institute. There were also computers similar to IBM. And the crowning glory was the Elbrus supercomputers (only a few countries could afford such a thing). And note. All domestic! On a domestic element base. Today, such a level is an unattainable value.
      1. +3
        29 July 2025 07: 37
        According to the author, there were no computers in the advanced Soviet banking and financial system.
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          29 July 2025 16: 30
          The author is mistaken. :) In 83 I did an internship at the computer center of the regional communal services department. Although at that time these were not exactly computers - tabulators, punchers, etc. This computer occupied the entire first floor of a five-story building, but salaries were calculated like many other things.
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            29 July 2025 17: 42
            While mainframes for banks in the US and Europe have been in operation for at least 15 years.
            1. +2
              29 July 2025 18: 00
              I have nothing against it, I just said that the USSR had computers in the 90s. Why are you so angry? Do you hate the USSR?
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                29 July 2025 18: 09
                Perestroika began in 1984. Due to the complete collapse of the USSR economy. And how personal computers were created, I know very well - my teacher participated in this directly. He also told how the KR580VM80A was created. And how the ministry did not want to deal with it. Categorically did not want to.
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                  29 July 2025 18: 18
                  In '84 (in the spring) I went to the army. So '84-'86 fell out for me. And so yes, I left one country and came to something incomprehensible - a completely different country (mess). Oh, yes... I saw a PC at this computer center - the size of a table (American, I think, a meter by two), it stood as an exhibit - no one knew how to work with it.
                  1. +2
                    29 July 2025 22: 07
                    In 84, the first computer labs appeared in schools. They were made by Yamaha. And they were not the size of a table.
                    1. +1
                      29 July 2025 22: 27
                      I read that these Yamahas came out in 86, but that's okay and unimportant. In 84 I was already 20 years old and I didn't live to see those school Yamahas. And about that PC (one by two meters) that stood at the data center, I don't even know how long it stood there - maybe a year, maybe 5... I don't know. It stood there under a leatherette cover and stood there, by the way, there were no Russian letters on the keyboard.
                2. +1
                  30 July 2025 09: 19
                  Perestroika in the full sense of the word began in 1987. In retrospect, its beginning is associated with 1985, when they began to talk about acceleration, glasnost, etc. In any case, it did not begin in 1984.
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                  30 July 2025 12: 00
                  He also told how the KR580VM80A was created. And how the ministry did not want to deal with it. Categorically did not want to.

                  good hi ))))))
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                    3 August 2025 10: 50
                    I'm quite serious. It seems that at a Kiev enterprise, girls laid out conductors on the floor with blue insulating tape using layer-by-layer photographs of the Intel 8080 crystal. You understand, such things are not forgotten. And the teacher is one of the creators of the Radio-86RK and Mikrosha computers.
      2. +5
        29 July 2025 10: 10
        In 1990, at our plant, wages were calculated and printed on the then EC computer. And just in the morning, pay slips were put to print, our girls had a hard time in practice. Can you imagine the noise of the then printer, with its drum and electromagnets?
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          3 August 2025 11: 13
          Worked as an electronics engineer (yes, there was such a specialty in the Union) in the Computer Center, on the ES-1045 and ES-1065. These thundering monsters were called ATsPU, automated digital printing device.
      3. +4
        29 July 2025 17: 13
        There are not many left who remember Soviet computers. Since the early 70s, every technical specialty at the university had a course on working with computers.
        Tapes, punch cards, some problems were solved. Machine time was allocated at the Institute's computer center for debugging programs.
        The craftsmanship was polished. It was possible to cut an extra hole on a punch card with a razor blade, and glue the unnecessary one, so as not to have to go and reissue punch cards.
        And tell me, who will now find the necessary bit in the program and manually change the "1" to "0"?
        I will note that the level of technology was comparable to foreign, they were inferior for several years. The main disadvantage was that the saturation of production with computer technology was not high.
        1. +2
          29 July 2025 19: 20
          Well, let's say that's why they develop technologies, so that you don't have to manually search for the necessary bit in a punch card with a penknife, so there's nothing to be proud of here. So, an ordinary Soviet person would hardly be able to carve and make a tool from flint, but our ancestors knew how!
          Well, as for the level of technology - the lag of "a couple of years" was only in the 60s and at best the 70s, by the end of the USSR there was already a lag of about 10 years, a logical result of a very dubious decision of the leadership to stupidly copy Western microelectronics instead of trying to develop their own architectures, and also the technological and production capabilities were seriously lagging behind. Individual single copies were almost or even at the level of leading Western developments, but they were produced individually and were absolutely not competitive with mass Western analogues.
          1. +2
            29 July 2025 21: 32
            Gleb, you took the example strangely. It is not about the ability to use a knife. It is about the depth of understanding of the programming process from a set of commands to machine codes. The student imagined where and how the command or data was recorded.
            If you want, I can change the text. "In the USSR universities in the late 60s and early 70s, a course was taken to train technical specialists to work on complex multi-user electronic computing systems. The course of study included both the theory of computer construction, the architecture of various computers, and the theory and practice of programming."
            In fact, the remark about a lag of several years refers to this period.
            1. +2
              29 July 2025 22: 04
              No, it's exactly because you don't understand the division of labor and the complication of operations with the development of technology, if you're trying to present this as an achievement. And now in the same microcontroller systems, a significant part of the work is done at the "bits" level and sometimes even reaches assembler, but trying to seriously compare even the current microcontroller cores with the systems of the 60s and 70s in terms of the complexity of the command system is frivolous, they are completely different orders of magnitude. That is, for a specialist to work at least at an adequate level on this immersion, he will need a significantly longer training time. Well, as for the training program - I studied according to 11.04.03 and our course included the same processor core architecture, and operating principles and principles of microelectronics production, and programming, as well as working with databases, and working with OS kernels, and the basics of neural networks, and the basics of developing systems on a chip, and of course the technological component of microelectronics, that is, much more than you describe. There are a lot of problems in education, I won't argue with that, but they are definitely not there because "the student doesn't know where and how this or that command or data is written in an assembler line."
              1. +2
                29 July 2025 23: 28
                The topic of the conversation was the question of the absence or presence of computers in the USSR at the turn of the 60s-70s. My message was that there were not only computers, but also user training at a level that was quite adequate for that time. There was no discussion about the level of today's education. I was unable to convey my idea, although I tried to express it in a different way. What can you do? You have the right to have your own opinion about everything and understand everything in your own way.
          2. +1
            30 July 2025 12: 35
            Quote: shocktrooper
            Well, as for the level of technology - the lag of "a couple of years" was only in the 60s and at best the 70s, by the end of the USSR there was already a lag of about 10 years, a logical result of a very dubious decision by the leadership to stupidly copy Western microelectronics instead of trying to develop their own architectures

            He-he-he... there was a series of articles on VO about Soviet computers. In it, the transition to Western electronics was justified by the desire to solve the main problem of USSR computers - the lag not in hardware, but in software for the average user. Because domestic software was either absent or extremely unfriendly to the user, requiring high skills to use. Simply put, instead of developing their own software, they decided to buy or otherwise obtain it from the West.
      4. 0
        30 July 2025 12: 56
        there were Soviet-Bulgarian variants in our technical school in Tashkent, Pravets was called, I think
    2. +6
      29 July 2025 07: 45
      That is, instead of computers - ladies with file cabinets.

      Almost every plant had an automated control system and a computer center. The OGAS system was being built and prepared for launch, which simply cannot exist under capitalism due to the peculiarities of its "management".
      The disadvantage was the lack of what is now called databases, which were just appearing in software form at that time. That's where the ladies were.
      There was no such thing as "big data" today. But it is only now that progress has reached such a level of automatic information collection.
  7. +1
    29 July 2025 06: 12
    Didn't all this start with Andropov? Gorbachev simply continued what had begun.
    1. -12
      29 July 2025 06: 19
      There is no need to slander Andropov. He and Gorbachev had directly opposite governments. Andropov had "strengthening labor discipline," a real fight against corruption, at least in Moscow trade and public catering. Gorbachev had chaos, disorder, freedom for criminals - from embezzlers and separatists to bandits.
      And the enemies of the communists and the USSR with their Perestroika prove that they are real only when it is not in their interests to lie and be hypocritical for their vile and criminal purposes, just as Gorbachev, for the sake of his own benefit and career, pretended to be a “faithful communist” for 30 years before that.
      1. +4
        29 July 2025 07: 40
        Behind the fading Brezhnev, Andropov was preparing his dash to the top of power, but in the end, having led for just over a year, he opened the way for characters like Gorby.
      2. 0
        29 July 2025 07: 53
        There is no need to slander Andropov.

        Gorbachev was filled by Andropov. That is, on the one hand, the laws that were written under Andropov were of a social nature. And on the other hand - Gorbachev.
        Didn't he see him as a person?
        Therefore, I would say Andropov is a "dark horse". Additional information is needed, which is not available.
        1. -13
          29 July 2025 08: 29
          So I wrote because I knew that I would get such an answer, that Gorbachev pretended for 30 years. And if he had not gotten to power in the USSR, both he and Yeltsin and all the other members of the CPSU who "saw the light" during Perestroika would have pretended to be "faithful communists" for the rest of their lives.
          1. +3
            29 July 2025 13: 35
            Quote: tatra
            So I did it because I knew...

            All the laws on cooperation, many rules and regulations instantly appeared under Gorbachev.
            suddenly, out of nowhere, the devil appeared from the box!

            Did he really do all this himself? Or did he suddenly call in specialists and they did it instantly? No. This was developed very early on with the aim of destroying the USSR. Even under Andropov, it turns out. Everything was very carefully thought out. And immediately an alien class arose --- cooperators. These were the first enemies of the USSR. And this hostility-opposition grew stronger. And then they became MPs.
            But you remember all this, you probably branded them
      3. +2
        29 July 2025 08: 12
        Read where Andropov's descendants live and everything will become clear.
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          29 July 2025 08: 42
          It's not clear at all, you never know where the descendants live... Stalin's daughter also left, so what? Stalin is an agent of Western influence? Moreover, Andropov's great-grandchildren left after his death and after the collapse of the Union.
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            29 July 2025 11: 40
            Stalin's daughter left for an obvious reason.
      4. +4
        29 July 2025 08: 35
        The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

        Quote: tatra
        There is no need to slander Andropov.

        What discipline, when shops worked until 19:00, and the working day ended at 18:00? Crowds of workers rushing to the counters, creating crushes... Everyone had to manage to buy their supplies in an hour.
        It was Andropov who allowed the Taganka Theatre to corrupt the people. It was Andropov who sent young reformers to Switzerland to improve their skills in the collapse of the USSR:
        1. +3
          29 July 2025 10: 46
          You are a little mistaken, this whole gang did not undergo training in Austria under the supervision of the State Department during Andropov's time, that was later.
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          29 July 2025 15: 01
          Quote: Boris55
          What kind of discipline was there when shops were open until 19:00 pm and the working day ended at 18:00 pm?

          The first shift worked from eight to four. The second - from four to twelve. The third shift, if necessary, from twelve to eight. So in three hours people had enough time to go to the store. Which in cities with a large number of factories and plants (like Omsk) is quite acceptable.
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        29 July 2025 13: 43
        Quote: tatra
        There is no need to slander Andropov. He and Gorbachev had directly opposite governments. Andropov had "strengthening labor discipline", a real fight against corruption, at least in Moscow trade and public catering...

        It's all bullshit. Neither the police nor the KGB should have been doing this. It's not their function. There were other bodies for this. But these bodies completely degraded, as a result of the degradation of the nomenklatura. The nomenklatura degenerated and became only for itself and about itself. What Stalin was talking about.
        damn caste
        1. +3
          29 July 2025 17: 44
          As if there was no caste under Stalin.
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            29 July 2025 20: 50
            As if there was no caste under Stalin.
            There was no such thing. He weeded it regularly. Weeding stopped under Khrushchev Kukuruzny.
            1. -1
              29 July 2025 22: 03
              The overwhelming majority of those "weeded" by Stalin are ordinary people
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                29 July 2025 22: 11
                The overwhelming majority of those "weeded" by Stalin are ordinary people
                These "ordinary" people sat in command positions and failed their section of work. Throw away the magazine "Ogonyok" for 1989.
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                  29 July 2025 22: 30
                  You know, Sergei Ivanovich, where did I come across the phrase that it was precisely the ordinary people who were not afraid of repression.
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                    29 July 2025 23: 22
                    Peasants faced about 10 years in the camps for picking up ears of wheat in a collective farm field. Have you forgotten?? Or do you prefer not to remember? Stalin's state was extremely cruel to people.
                    And I can tell you about the standard of living. My friend's father's brother was rebuilding a barn to house his family.
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                      30 July 2025 00: 39
                      Quote: Alexander K
                      Peasants faced about 10 years in the camps for picking up ears of wheat in a collective farm field. Have you forgotten?? Or do you prefer not to remember? .....

                      But you need to know how things were. In those hungry years, when children were swollen with hunger and dressed in sackcloth, during the season, children under the guidance of a teacher would all go and collect these ears of corn. They would give them to the teacher, count everything. And the teacher would hand them over further. If any of the children wanted to appropriate them ---- ignore, shame... maybe something else. But for adults --- yes, camps. Everything had to be handed over, so that they could be distributed later, terrible famine... but sometimes without camps. They could simply kill. Such were the times. Such famine. An eyewitness of that time told me this. He collected ears of corn as a child
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                        30 July 2025 13: 32
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Gave it to the teacher

                        Read documents- ISTMAT, for example, and not propaganda: how many million tons of grain remained in the fields, were lost during transportation, rotted on threshing floors, in storage facilities (no one cared, it was not theirs) and no Stalins or Yezhovs could break it, even though they shot and imprisoned.
                2. +2
                  29 July 2025 23: 13
                  What kind of ugliness is it to justify the murder of many people? And it is absolutely certain that such a justification comes from those who, out of career interests or revenge, directly contributed to this process. The dead will not tell anything.
                  And the result is a complete failure in state structure. The result of negative selection. Almost complete absence of own developments. Everything is stolen. Or bought under license. From turbines to refrigerators. Stalin destroyed the cream of the nation. All that is left is to buy and copy. The extreme wretchedness of engineering thought in the USSR attracts attention. Well, let me remind you that the "richest country" was not even capable of copper wiring in houses.
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                    30 July 2025 00: 44
                    How many people died and were killed during H2. How many years did they starve in the Russian Empire? Read Tolstoy's "FAMINE". Stolypin repressions, Stolypin ties all over the country... RYAV, WW1
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                      30 July 2025 13: 34
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      How many people died and were killed during H2. How many years did they starve in the Russian Empire. Read Tolstoy's "FAMINE".

                      millions of times less - reading the OGPU reports on cannibalism, Tolstoy's hunger - the dream of Soviet people 21-25,30-34,46-47
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                    30 July 2025 08: 37
                    What kind of ugliness is it to justify the killing of many people?
                    What kind of ugliness is it to justify the privatizers of the 30s, whom Stalin did not allow to carry out "perestroika" in those years? Read what the "party favorite" Bukharin wrote. The slogan "Get rich" - what is it about? Well, if you are not able to think beyond copper wiring, then hi
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                      30 July 2025 13: 36
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      What kind of ugliness is it to justify the privatizers of the 30s, whom Stalin did not allow to carry out "perestroika" in those years?

                      What kind of ugliness is this - to justify crimes against fellow citizens, long condemned by the STATE of the USSR and the RSFSR, the Russian Federation?
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                  30 July 2025 13: 27
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  These "ordinary" people sat in command positions and failed their section of work. Throw away the magazine "Ogonyok" for 1989.

                  throw out the owl sentences ... albums of 37-38, these innocent people have long been acquitted
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  He weeded it regularly.

                  but it had to be weeded.
            2. -1
              29 July 2025 22: 27
              Quote: Aviator_
              ..... Weeding stopped under Khrushchev the Corn.

              There were no purges during WWII either. And then they couldn't identify all the necessary ones and here's the result
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                30 July 2025 08: 39
                There were no purges during WWII either.
                We weeded it so well that there weren't any.
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                  30 July 2025 09: 37
                  Probably, already at the end of Stalin's life, the nomenklatura began to think about how things would go. In 1952, the name of the party was changed, then, at the Plenum, many people dressed in civilian clothes. Suits. Before that, everyone was the same in semi-military clothes. And so it went gradually, and then more quickly.
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                30 July 2025 13: 40
                Quote: Reptiloid
                There were no purges during WWII either.

                What unclouded IGNORANCE! There were also some other ones - wild, stupid, uh, incomprehensible - they searched and "found" in the rear... governments, "saboteurs", "conspiracies", etc., they shot and imprisoned. The Chekists had to justify their sitting in the rear.
    2. 0
      29 July 2025 07: 50
      What exactly started? It must be admitted - the Union was deficient throughout its history... something was always missing, at least they managed to cope with hunger by the 60s, although here we must say thanks to mechanization and the development of railway transport more than to the organization. The Union simply lacked workers and mouths, well, there were not enough people to produce absolutely everything themselves and consumers for it to be profitable... from a social point of view, this is a big plus, of course, but from an economic point of view, coupled with large military expenditures, it creates an imbalance, which actually killed the economy.
      1. -1
        29 July 2025 08: 58
        Yes, yes! The cruel communists dreamed of conquering the entire peaceful capitalist West, quiet peaceful America, peaceful Europe, and therefore almost every year they fought with everyone, attacking peaceful Berlin, Prague, Budapest... How could they develop economically if instead of financial exchanges they were exploring some kind of space!..)))
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            29 July 2025 10: 40
            There is no need to sing songs about M 113, my dear, so what if there are more of them, what's the point of them? You are a typical hidden Chubais liberal, oh why was space needed, oh why did we spend money on defense... and you'll also bring up oh why did we industrialize like that in the 30s... if you can't see beyond your nose, then there's no point in blowing bubbles here. The same space industry has pulled so much in various fields, new materials, new technologies and so on... we've already heard, why the hell do we need space, we want to eat burgers...
            1. +3
              29 July 2025 11: 47
              I mentioned the M113 only as a list of the most mass-produced military-industrial complex products. The M113 is currently the most mass-produced APC, but if you take the family of vehicles (BTR-60/70/80) or even more so such vehicles as a class (add BTR-40/152/50, etc.), then the Union produced more of them than anyone else in the world.
              As for "why, why?" - no one asks the question, once again, now you separately - we are talking about meager figures, without discussing the correctness and goals, history does not tolerate such discussions - the Union had an inflated military budget, more than the American one if you look at the life of the economy. The USSR had an ineffective economy. The USSR was technologically backward - I wrote above about the lag in energy and metallurgy, this also did not add efficiency to the economy. The USSR had image-building and not very economically justified projects like space flights, which ultimately ended in defeat in the space race anyway. The Union had artificial restrictions on foreign trade. All this together could not help but kill the Soviet economy, it was initially in deficit, and if the first half of the USSR's existence can be attributed to civilian, industrialization and the Great Patriotic War, then the second half can no longer be attributed to this. The Union simply could not provide the money supply with goods! I still remember the sighs of my grandfather, who had money burned up in his savings book, which would have been enough to buy several Nivas. And when asked "what didn't I buy?" he always answered "my turn didn't come, and I didn't want to pay the profiteers." In other words, there was money, but there was nothing to spend it on, it was not backed by anything, in fact.
              1. -1
                29 July 2025 12: 55
                Oh, you chatterbox, you chatterbox, what relation do you have to the BTR60/70/80?
                1. +3
                  29 July 2025 14: 29
                  I traveled as a passenger a few times and nothing more. How does this question relate to the economic and financial system of the USSR?
                  1. -2
                    29 July 2025 14: 40
                    Yes, it says a lot, there are so many such theoreticians and talkers, but there is no point
                    1. +4
                      29 July 2025 14: 45
                      Could you please elaborate and provide facts? There are just too many of these "I said so well, so badly, and who requires proof!"
                      1. -3
                        29 July 2025 14: 52
                        And what facts do you need if you don’t see the connection between the development of space and the development of many sectors of the USSR’s national economy? Nuclear power plants and so on... I don’t see the point in arguing with people who were taught Soros’s and liberal Chubais’s methods in the 90s and that’s it.
                      2. +5
                        29 July 2025 15: 27
                        I don't remember us switching to the informal "you", but that's a minor detail. Further on from what was said:
                        Where did I write that nuclear energy is bad? That the number of units and their total capacity is less than the US, I wrote, and that is true. That whose efficiency is better is not clear, I wrote, and that is also true.
                        I also wrote above that the space race actually gave nothing to the national economy, and this is a fact. Were Soviet citizens able to get satellite communications, maybe an analogue of GPS or satellite television for that matter? No, they did not. Take the FRG for example - they did not participate in any space race, but they had metallurgy at the proper level, they produced the same blades for steam turbines for supercriticality (and their supercriticality, not our softer one). Or will you say that the FRG emerged from WWII in better shape than the USSR? And there is a lot of that. Will you argue that the union had huge, practically unaffordable expenses on the military? Maybe there were no tens of thousands of tanks, planes, infantry fighting vehicles, which did not give anything to the national economy and in fact simply rusted on the bases? The T-55 was produced until the end of the 70s, although its direct competitors had already stopped production in the late 50s and early 60s. Arguments are needed for discussion - for example, "Mriya" and "Ruslan" can be called effective aircraft, simply because there are no analogues in the world and when it is necessary to transport such large loads by air, there are no other such aircraft. But the Tu-154 was inferior in its characteristics to Western analogues, therefore it "died" after the collapse of the Union and the depletion of its service life everywhere except the Ministry of Defense. But you are apparently not interested in discussing anything, that is why you cannot even come up with facts. Give at least some arguments, why do you immediately blame everything on conspiracies and betrayals? Or is there nothing else to say?
          3. +2
            29 July 2025 15: 13
            Quote: parma
            because in the US alone the population was comparable to the population of the entire Warsaw Pact,

            Well, well, well... In 1980, the population of the USA was 226,5 million people. At the same time, the USSR had 264,5 million. But you also added the Warsaw Pact countries. What can we, the homespun ones, do? America rules.
            1. +1
              31 July 2025 09: 22
              I confess, I was mistaken. In my memory, the figures were the other way around, which, taking into account the population of Eastern European countries, gave +- comparable figures, but even such a ratio does not greatly change the size of the production and consumer base of NATO and the Warsaw Pact.
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  9. +5
    29 July 2025 07: 47
    that's why I need to tell you about how Gorbachev and his henchmen destroyed the Soviet economy and the advanced financial system of the USSR. I saw it all myself then, I experienced it on my own "skin" and now the figures given here in the article are so reminiscent of the figures and tables about how much Tsarist Russia of 1913 "still" lagged behind the USSR in seventy years, well, let's say in 1983. Such figures and tables, both today about the collapse of the economy and finances in the USSR, and the figures then about the Russian Empire overtaking the USSR in 70 years, do not make sense and never did.
    But if the author had mustered up the courage to write an article, with specific names and positions about those, with specific names and positions, who in the Soviet army, in the KGB, lay down under Gorbachev and his accomplices, what would have happened, as they write at the very beginning of the article, ... a pogrom with the aim of completely discrediting and denigrating the service class ... The author obviously meant the officer corps of the SA and the USSR Navy, since there were no classes in the USSR ... But there were "classes" in the SA itself and in the USSR Navy. There were line officers of the army and navy and there were political officers. How many higher schools were there in the USSR where they trained exclusively political officers for the army and navy? And how many billions of rubles did the Soviet state spend on training such an "army" in the armed forces? And when Gorbachev and his accomplices began a pogrom with the aim of discrediting the army and navy, then these people, by the way, with specific names both in the Armed Forces and in the KGB, were among the first to fall under the traitors. Write an article about them, about specific ones, because if it were not for the betrayal of the political departments, starting from the Ministry of Defense and ending with the political departments in the regiments, and also at all levels of the KGB, then the advanced financial system of the USSR, to which the author dedicated the article, would not have been destroyed. Here the KGB saw and found every black marketeer saboteur of the Soviet economy and financial system, but did not see and did not find the traitors Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Yakovlev, Sobchak, Shevardnadze and all those hundreds of Lanzbergises "on the ground". Just as the special officers in the army and navy did not see how the political officers-windbags were pouring empty air into empty air at political classes about the unity of the CPSU and the armed forces.
    1. +4
      29 July 2025 08: 15
      In general, I can agree, but not all political officers were of the same type... we had a normal guy, although there was no union anymore and they still called him the old fashioned way, but he was an honest guy, which is probably why he was an eternal captain. And there were 13 military-political schools in the USSR, including separate ones for the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They began to be created en masse in 1967, timed to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the All-Russian Socialist Revolution.
    2. 0
      29 July 2025 08: 19
      Quote: north 2
      And when Gorbachev and his accomplices began a pogrom with the aim of discrediting the army and navy, then these people, by the way, with specific names both in the Armed Forces and in the KGB, were among the first to fall under the traitors.

      What happened with Iraq, as it turned out, Saddam was betrayed by three generals, and that was enough... With the Union, everything was more complicated and took longer, but, we must give credit to the Anglo-Saxons, they pulled off the deal.
      On January 1, 1991, the number of members and candidates for membership in the CPSU in the USSR was 16 people, where did they go? Why did the USSR fall, given that according to the results of the All-Union referendum, the overwhelming majority was for the Soviet Union? Finally, how did the renegades surrender the country, commit a crime, and not suffer any punishment for it.
      As for specific names, it’s no secret who is a former member of the Communist Party, who is a former KGB officer, and now they are convinced capitalists...
      1. +3
        29 July 2025 08: 34
        And how many of these 16 million plus people actually made decisions and somehow influenced the country's policy? And how many of this entire number had party cards for selfish or other personal reasons? And how many were truly ideological? That's the whole story... If earlier the majority in the party were truly true communists, honest people, then later, with the mass recruitment of everyone in a row, all this was washed away and turned into a crowd of people unanimously raising their hands.
        1. +2
          29 July 2025 08: 53
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          and how many are really ideological?
          Therefore, a communist, if he is really a communist, cannot be a former one. Members can. Better fewer, but better, it was forgotten, opportunists and careerists joined the party, who quickly changed their shoes, and now in the new party of power. Gennady Andreyevich? It seems that he discredits communism more with his humming of dogmas, and would not really like to take power. If you remember how easily he agreed to re-election, essentially defeating Yeltsin in 1996. Why did he need problems, the eternal "opposition" is much more convenient. We need a new communist party, in which there will be no place for opportunists and turncoats.
          1. -6
            29 July 2025 09: 04
            You are now acting like enemies of the communists, who always cowardly shift the blame and responsibility onto others for what they themselves have done.
            The CPRF and Zyuganov are only those that Putin allows. If Grudinin becomes the head of the CPRF, it will be banned immediately, and they will come up with a pretext.
            And it is vile to blame Zyuganov for the fact that Yeltsin and the “liberals” proved back in October 1993 that they were ready to drench the country in blood, but would not give up power to anyone.
            And I am not for Zyuganov and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I have long been disappointed in them, I am simply for truth and objectivity.
            1. +4
              29 July 2025 09: 46
              Well, you must admit, Grudinin discredited the Communist Party of the Russian Federation no less than Zyuganov, well, as a capitalist-billionaire at that time, I don’t know now, maybe he was a supporter of the left idea?
            2. +7
              29 July 2025 10: 14
              Quote: tatra
              The Communist Party of the Russian Federation and Zyuganov are only those that Putin allows.
              Irina, you should know that Vladimir Vladimirovich is a former member of the CPSU and a former KGB officer. Mr. Comrade Yeltsin, who with his accomplices in Belovezhskaya Pushcha voluntarily declared the dissolution of the USSR, they are also members of the CPSU, like Gorbachev, who, instead of hanging traitors on poles, lowered the red flag in the Kremlin. So, who then bears responsibility for the collapse of the country? By the way, Mr. Yeltsin banned the Communist Party. Are you worried that Putin will do the same with the CPRF, allowing it to exist while it is tame? This is the truth and objectivity, that there are no real communists, no great idea, and without this you cannot win.
    3. +1
      29 July 2025 10: 13
      About the political officers. Here's a question: you serve like a copper pot, and a bad letter came from home. What will you do, who will you go to?
      1. +1
        29 July 2025 12: 27
        What will you do, who will you go to?

        That's for sure. The political officer is the only one you can contact without being on command. Otherwise, only the department commander.
  10. -8
    29 July 2025 08: 35
    And everything that Gorbachev did, he did not do alone, but together with the enemies of the communists and the USSR "liberated" by him, and then they already began what they continue to this day. BUT, by cowardly shifting the blame for what they themselves had done during their totally deceitful Perestroika onto the communists and their supporters, they themselves admitted all of this as their crimes against the country and the people.
  11. -7
    29 July 2025 08: 51
    And here is how fundamentally different in everything are the Soviet and anti-Soviet people on the territory of the USSR, including the fact that the leader of the October Revolution, both during his lifetime and 100 years after his death, had and still has a huge number of supporters.
    And the anti-Soviet people immediately betrayed the leader of their counter-revolution, Gorbachev, as soon as, thanks to him, they captured the USSR, and Gorbachev was de facto overthrown.
    And the anti-Soviet people betrayed their benefactor Yeltsin, and will betray their next benefactor. And now we have had to hire bots for money so that they would pose as his supporters on the Internet with manuals that he is the best, the very best, that he saved.
  12. +1
    29 July 2025 09: 52
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    In general, I can agree, but not all political officers were of the same type... we had a normal guy, although there was no union anymore and they still called him the old fashioned way, but he was an honest guy, which is probably why he was an eternal captain. And there were 13 military-political schools in the USSR, including separate ones for the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They began to be created en masse in 1967, timed to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the All-Russian Socialist Revolution.

    Dear Andrey! I also remember more than one officer who was honest, decent and disciplined... but all of them were captains. I was not lucky enough to meet such political officers during my three years of military service.
    But I know about "one bunch" of two political officers, with the result of a huge spit on all "political troops" and the Soviet Army and the USSR Navy. At the beginning of 1973, I was finishing my service in the 23rd Separate Division of Repaired Ships and a former petty officer of the first class from the large anti-submarine ship "Starazhevaya" demoted to sailor was written off there. So he frankly told me that the future traitor, political officer captain 3rd Sablin ended up on the newest large anti-submarine ship "Storozhevaya" due to a vacancy for political officer on the ship, since the previous political officer on the newest ship, captain-lieutenant, I don't remember his last name after so many years, was fired from the navy for drunkenness!!! Well, and Capt. 3 Sablin, who had just graduated from the Lenin Military-Political Academy in 1973, was already hijacking the newest large anti-submarine ship "Storozhevoy" to Sweden two years later. And if today's liberals tell you that there was an uprising against the Soviet regime there, you can just spit on it. Direct witnesses of these events told me that NATO ships were already on their way to meet Sablin and the large anti-submarine ship "Storozhevoy" and there were only a few miles left to neutral waters, when the ship's commander, freed from captivity, shot Sablin in the wheelhouse and, having taken control of the ship, stopped the course... These are the kind of political officers we have - one drunkard was fired, and in his place, straight from the Lenin Military-Political Academy, two years later he hijacks the newest ship to Sweden. This is from the same series, as the KGB did not notice for many years that Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Yakovlev, Bakatin and others like them were “maturing” into traitors.
    1. +2
      29 July 2025 10: 33
      Sablin's story is well known...all those defectors, traitors only in words, like ah ah Soviet power prison and so on, but in reality they wanted to eat well, sleep well and get other pleasures of life, and they didn't give a damn about their Motherland. The regional and national elite were happy with Gorbachev's steps, since it allowed them to legalize their accumulated wealth together with the shadow workers, the rupture of this abscess happened as we saw later. The common people saw perfectly well how lecturers like Shpakovsky pushed ideas, slogans and so on, but in reality everything was different, the comrades in high offices built a separate communism for themselves and they wanted even more.
  13. +3
    29 July 2025 10: 19
    The author is stretching the dates he needs to the events. Trying to agitate for something.
    1985 – the beginning of perestroika with debt (both internal and external).
    But where did it end up in the advanced financial system? It's simple, import. In 1984, a record 45,5 million tons of grain and grain products were imported, a 10% increase compared to 1983. Then there were meat and vegetable oils.
    There was also a huge import of machinery, equipment and vehicles. Exports did not cover everything, which led to the fact that the USSR left the Russian Federation with huge debts as a legacy. In 1990, no one would lend to the USSR because of its insolvency.
    So, there were prerequisites for changing the system, the tendency was terrifying. And the first slogans were "Search for new paths in the existing system." It was obvious. But what did you want from the assistant combine operator, whom the social lift put at the head of the system...
    1. +4
      29 July 2025 11: 24
      It is not the social lift or the combine operator's assistant who is to blame, but a specific person, Gorbachev! Social lift and Stalin, with an unfinished education even in theological seminary, put at the head of the system. But what different results for the country! Stalin in eight post-war years left the country rebuilt after the terrible Great Patriotic War and already with atomic weapons, and Gorbachev in five years brought the country to poverty and rationing, and began to saw up strategic carriers of Soviet nuclear weapons on his own initiative to please the enemies of the USSR, NATO, led by the USA.
      1. +2
        29 July 2025 14: 17
        That's also true. Only Stalin is one of hundreds of millions, and Gorbachev is one of hundreds of millions. Stalin understood and correctly interpreted the precepts of Marx and Lenin, while Gorbachev went for liberalization. And Stalin took the reins in a harsh time, he had to fight for power, while Gorbachev in a warm...
    2. +1
      29 July 2025 14: 15
      legacy of the USSR

      These are factories and plants, hydroelectric power stations, explored and developed mineral reserves, mining and processing plants, this is huge construction, residential areas that have been restored twice in 2 years! This is the population, medicine and much more ... that we still use now
      1. 0
        29 July 2025 14: 19
        Nobody is canceling this. Don't take phrases out of context, the full phrase was:
        The USSR also left debts as a legacy to the Russian Federation

        The key word is "and". You won't argue with that, I hope?
        1. 0
          29 July 2025 14: 22
          I just think that you need to see the main thing! Twice in such a short period of time, not only did they restore, but also multiply, reaching a qualitatively new level. That's what
          1. +1
            29 July 2025 14: 26
            All of them were under Stalin twice. There was no mention of him or the great period of his rule in either the article or my comment. But subsequent generations of chairmen undeservedly criticized him and ended up destroying the country themselves.
            1. 0
              29 July 2025 14: 28
              Quote: a.shlidt
              All of them were under Stalin twice. ...... But subsequent generations of chairmen criticized him unfairly and ended up destroying the country themselves.

              What are we talking about
              1. +3
                29 July 2025 14: 41
                What are we talking about

                There was nothing about Stalin in the article. It was about:
                How the advanced financial system of the USSR was destroyed

                Where the author fetches dates and facts to suit his opinion that only Gorbachev destroyed the Union with his reforms. But this is not so. Even before his chairmanship, problems had emerged!!! And they required solutions, the trend was precisely towards a crisis. And the Central Committee accepted Gorbachev's vector, but Gorbachev turned out to be a traitor who was never put up against the wall...
                1. +1
                  29 July 2025 15: 04
                  Everyone already knows about Stalin. Although it wasn't in the article, everyone knows the history, the years of construction and creation.
                  I wrote somewhere that the laws on cooperation were prepared well in advance before the marked one. Very painstakingly.
  14. -2
    29 July 2025 12: 24
    Here, all sorts of Banderlyads are trying to prove that the USSR with its planned economy is a mistake and that everything will be decided by the INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET. Which consists of the following components:
    - economic sanctions,
    - embargo,
    - economic blockade,
    - economic sabotage,
    - economic war of extermination,
    - the war itself and genocide.
    1. -4
      29 July 2025 12: 47
      This is the vaunted "market economy" of the enemies of the communists and the USSR
      Skins, E. coli, antibiotics for pigs and medicine for STDs were found in Chebupeli, Starodvorie, Kremlevskaya and Vyazanka products

      This is not the first time that dangerous salmonella, bones and oxytetracycline have been found in boulmeni, chebupeli and sausages.

      And for them, the same thing is not an exception, but a rule, and they happily gobble it all up, “but now we have everything, not like in the USSR.”
    2. +3
      29 July 2025 13: 54
      Quote: Dedrusav
      The USSR with a planned economy is a mistake and everything will be decided by the INVISIBLE HAND OF THE MARKET

      The planned economy is definitely not a mistake, but it needed adjustments - small items (underwear-jeans-chewing gum) could have been given to cooperatives, and strategic industries - only to the state, but it was necessary to start doing this 5-10 years earlier, then there was a chance. And not in the Gorbachev way.. but, actually, today - it is no longer important, since it is no longer there anyway, and there is only the market with its "invisible" Anglo-Saxon hand.. I think that topics about comparing the incomparable, namely the USSR and the Russian Federation, are allowed for the "number of comments"..
      1. -2
        29 July 2025 13: 56
        It was possible to do "small stuff" in the artels, 150000 of which were destroyed by the f@cker Khrushch.
      2. +1
        29 July 2025 14: 57
        and strategic industries - only to the state

        Even now, many strategic industries are already in the hands of the state. And what, has much changed? It's not just the economic system of production and distribution. It's the people who are, in fact, complete thieves. Thieving officials have come who should not be put in a chair, but rather put against the wall. If you're going to blame someone, then blame the political system with three branches of power.
        1. -5
          29 July 2025 16: 19
          And not only thieves. The enemies of the USSR, who seized the republics of the USSR, turned out to be so stupid and worthless that they couldn’t even save what they got for free from the results of the labor of Soviet communists and their supporters - they ruined ALL industries compared to the USSR, and seriously present imports and counterfeits of Soviet products as their “achievements”.
  15. 0
    29 July 2025 14: 22
    Somehow the wrong years were chosen for the title of such an article. The advanced financial system was before the war, during and after. And each of these periods was unique in its own way. After Stalin's death, the financial system was redrawn, and they began to create a pipe economy.
  16. +4
    29 July 2025 16: 40
    Another opus. The citizens of the USSR DID NOT HAVE any dividends from the non-convertibility of the ruble. There was a shortage of everything and anything, and the only reason was that there was simply no economy in the normal sense. For a pair of good shoes you had to give half a month's salary, and if you can't buy good ones, you have to wear boots or go barefoot. Building materials - try buying them! Well, maybe nails. And even then, not all sizes. There weren't even decent condoms, well, there were imports from India, but they instantly disappeared from pharmacies. Meat - only on the market for 8-10 rubles per kilo, or even more. Even vodka was banned in 1986. That's what the CPSU-men led by the spotted one did. They took out $100 billion in loans in 5 years and flushed it all down the toilet!!!
    1. -8
      29 July 2025 18: 42
      How much impudence there is in the enemies of the USSR. With your highly paid "work" and your beloved "business", you have ruined ALL industries compared to the USSR, and have proven capable of only parasitizing on the results of the labor of Soviet communists and their supporters, imports of food and manufactured goods.
      That is why your cowardly “ideology” is that you have “nothing to do” with what you have done in the 33 years since you created your anti-Soviet State.
      1. +1
        29 July 2025 18: 54
        Quote: tatra
        How much impudence there is in the enemies of the USSR...

        ... and in robots Yes
  17. +2
    30 July 2025 08: 45
    Amazing article!
    Comrade Samsonov, congratulations!
    good love )))
    It remains to name names. If I am not mistaken, the project of economic accountability of Rem Belousov, father of the current Minister of War Andrei Removich Belousov, was pushed aside and the project of Liberman from Kharkov was accepted. Potanin was hanging around there taking money out of the Union, the father of the current Potanin. Again, Chubais and his comrades, Komsomol member Khodorkovsky, etc. All by name - traitors!
    I hope my comrades named them. Now I'll start reading the comments, and then I'll try to move the articles to Favorites on Telegram. Because an article is a powerful weapon, it needs to be learned by heart.
    Thanks! )))
    1. +1
      30 July 2025 14: 47
      There was a lot that was "pushed aside" - by the efforts of the "reformist" gang of Andropov and Co. (leaders - Andropov + Pitovranov - instead of Brezhnev's military friend, General Tsvigun, who was killed by them - a type of "suicide", like the "suicided" Marshal Akhromeyev" + the Minister of Internal Affairs Shchelokov, who was actually brought to their knees by them, etc. (Rem Ukrainians - in Moscow, Romanov in St. Petersburg, Masherov in Belarus... - the bloody list of patriots killed at the same time is long...) - all the materials are on the Internet - search by last names), which brought Gorbachev and his comrades-traitors-sellers of the Motherland to power + then sent to the USA for instructions on organizing the Colony-Russia brigade of Chubais-Gaidar-...
      There, in addition to the insignificant "Rem Belousov's project of business accounting", many things were villainously destroyed by the ruling traitors. For example, all the results of the work of the team of economists and mathematicians of Academician Leonid Kantorovich, already prepared for practical implementation on a national scale. That is why the destruction of the USSR State Planning Committee was on the list of top-priority completed tasks for this gang of "reformers" - from the New Master. They succeeded, unlike Hitler's military option. At that stage, they did without bombs: and the destructive effect for Russia turned out to be much more terrible - look at the current state of industry in Russia and the extinction of the people to boot. All this was perfectly commented on by the best economist of the 20th century, according to whose model the best successful economies of the world were built and operate - from the USA to Japan. Vasily Vasilyevich Leontiev. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
      Moreover, this is a heavily cut version of the article about him by liberal moderators. The old version had much harsher and more detailed assessments of him - about the destructive activity of the "reformers" of Russia. It's just that editors from Russia are not allowed into Wikipedia - and for Westerners, Leontiev's true assessment is like a knife to the throat.
      1. +2
        30 July 2025 15: 03
        no, I will still overcome this harmful local AUTOEDITOR: Rem Ukrainians belay - This is Rem H-o-h-l-o-v.
      2. +2
        30 July 2025 15: 46
        There is a lot of material, in different places, and from many witnesses. For example:
        E. Yu. Spitsyn: Andropov is striving for power. Mysterious deaths of Suslov and General Tsvigun
        https://rutube.ru/video/eb7bb5cf0305df50522b40c4090aed15/?r=plemwd
    2. +2
      30 July 2025 14: 54
      in my comment above "Rem of Ukrainians" - it is actually Rem Ukrainians - the already approved successor of Brezhnev, the rector of Moscow State University, who was removed from the hospital at the last moment - the "auto-editor" "corrected" him.
      Addition about Kantorovich from another source: https://lenta.ru/articles/2014/12/06/kantorovich/?ysclid=mdpwjsw8rz198961533
      "Now he is considered the creator of the so-called mathematical economics. But during his lifetime, he was better known in scientific circles as the man who put "mathematics at the service of socialist construction." This is exactly what was written in the program documents of the Leningrad Physics and Mathematics Society, which he reorganized in the early 30s. The twist of fate was that the production planning methods he created turned out to be more applicable in countries that had never been involved in socialist construction. And in 1975, he received the Nobel Prize for his work. We are talking about the Soviet scientist Leonid Kantorovich."
      It was the Western Masters-Craftsmen who used the management methods developed by our outstanding people: spitting on all sorts of "isms". But for us - they, through the "reformers" traitors and bandits of Chubais, imposed management methods that are guaranteed to lead the economy and the economy to collapse and self-liquidation, to the delight of the oligarchs-order bearers, parasites.
  18. +1
    30 July 2025 17: 36
    The defeat of the Soviet system of governance was carried out by the people who headed this system of governance at that time. What saved us from complete collapse? I don’t know, perhaps the West’s fear of the unauthorized use of weapons by the military? After all, Yeltsin essentially threw the country under the feet of the United States.
  19. +3
    30 July 2025 21: 24
    Quote: Dutchman Michel
    Quote: Stas157
    Never seen it. There were queues for milk and sour cream.
    There were, there were. Towards the very end of the USSR

    I can't speak for the whole country, but in Moscow there were no lines for bread...
  20. +2
    30 July 2025 21: 30
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: severok1979
    That is, instead of computers - ladies with file cabinets.

    There were computers in the USSR. ES-EVM, SM-EVM were at every enterprise and in every institute. There were also computers similar to IBM. And the crowning glory was the Elbrus supercomputers (only a few countries could afford such a thing). And note. All domestic! On a domestic element base. Today, such a level is an unattainable value.

    You are either unaware or lying. There were no computers "at every enterprise". For example, the Filevsky bus and trolleybus depot calculated salaries in the neighboring research institute in the late 80s. And this was practiced everywhere.
    1. 0
      31 July 2025 15: 55
      In this matter, the truth is somewhere in the middle: it was precisely by the beginning of the 1980s that the USSR approached the stage of mass deployment and introduction of computers into the national economy. I myself graduated from the Physics and Chemistry Department of the Institute of Steel and Alloys (MISiS) in early 1988. And our Institute was at that time one of the best equipped universities with computers, there are several reasons for that, not only because the last Brezhnev Minister of Higher Education of the USSR V.P. Elyutin was in charge of the department at the Institute (at that time it was a separate ministry, as opposed to the subsequent small pile of MinVUZ+MinPros+MinNauki - in the Russian Federation - which exactly fits into the Destruction Plan in this article - they united in order to chop up everyone in a common senseless pile of illiterate new managers - Chubais's "effective managers", who had never worked a day in either secondary or higher education, or in science management), but also because of their involvement in several very important ministries, which were also soon Completely Destroyed! Eternal memory to them - MinSredMash, MinObschemMash, MinKhimProm, MinRadioProm... - the famous nine key ministries - bright memory to them. Now on their ruins - he finishes off everything that remains: Ministry of Industry and TRADE ! Here it is: the condition of DESTRUCTION of the NATIONAL INDUSTRY FULFILLED in Russia: National industry is run by MERCHANTS! Well, look: who has been in charge of this very Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation for a long time: Manturov, Denis Valentinovich
      In 1994, he graduated from the sociology department of the Lomonosov Moscow State University, specializing in sociology. In the early 1990s, he worked in a Russian-Indian joint venture engaged in air transportation. Since 1993, he has been engaged in the export of Mi-8 helicopters from the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant.
      The chief manager of Russian industry is a sociologist by basic education. So what is there to be surprised about the absence of civil aircraft production, which was deliberately destroyed all the previous years? More generally: the very practice of combining the management of industry and trade in one ministry is destructive, because the goals and methods of industrialists are directly opposite! And it seems that those who created such a structure for managing Russian industry knew this very well, and achieved their goal: to ruin their industry: "bad, outdated products", "not competitive" - has anyone not heard these slogans from the brave Chubais' leaders? Well, and then - according to the Plan: close, kill, remove, dispose of, sell the valuables. Everything according to Plan, plan according to shaft, shaft according to Plan
      So, at the time of the mid-1980s, the USSR was producing small-scale and distributing according to schedules computers of several medium-large classes, from BESM to ES computers of several series. Unfortunately, almost all of them were purchased IBM licenses. Individual series of medium-large computers were purchased from US, European and Japanese companies and were tested in scientific and educational institutions. Personal computers were not widely used in industry/business in the West until the mid-to-late 1980s. And then Chubais-Triumph in Russia immediately DESTROYED EVERYTHING!
      The key destructive decisions to eliminate domestic mass production of computers were made in the late 1960s and early 1970s by the POLITICAL LEADERSHIP of the USSR. A detailed 2-part documentary film was shot about this, recently shown on TV Zvezda. This disastrous decision was protested against by developers of domestic advanced computers of that time from 2 sides: 1) from the civilian side, Academician Lebedev, 2) from the military (missile) side - Bashir Iskanderovich Rameev - a Soviet scientist-inventor, developer of the first Soviet MILITARY COMPUTERS. As knowledgeable people say, it was in his honor that the Iskander missile system was named (and not in honor of A. Makedonsky - according to the official version). But all the protests of SPECIALISTS and patriots were in vain: the illiterate party elite, the heir of the pro-Ukrainian Khrushchev, whose descendants have also long been in the USA - decided: we will buy everything from smart people ... They say that even the protests of the outstanding mathematician specialist President M. Keldysh did not help. Have you bought everything?..
  21. 0
    31 July 2025 16: 06
    There is only one thing that pleases me in all this: the truth from Above that is constantly being fulfilled: "There is nothing secret that will not become clear." The Gospel. Jesus Christ. And all these secret, carefully concealed plans, despite all the secrecy, the silence, the destruction of documents, the murders of witnesses - have nevertheless become clear and visible in all their vileness and with all the accomplices. And many of their main executors, like Yeltsin, Gaidar, Andropov, Pitovranov... are already responsible for all this. And those who are still alive - will also not escape responsibility: everything is known THERE. All this is written down in their personal books...
  22. +1
    1 August 2025 14: 58
    Quote: SergM
    I graduated from the Physics and Chemistry Department of the Institute of Steel and Alloys (MISiS) in early 1988.

    Hello, classmate!
    I graduated from this institute in 1985. True, the faculty of PMP, the cybernetics department was transferred there from the Faculty of Physics and Technology in the early 80s. But the department is precisely specialized. And I can say that you somewhat exaggerate the equipment of the institute with advanced computing tools...
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      3 August 2025 18: 12
      Hello, colleague. I don't think I'm exaggerating much. For all our 5 years as students, from 1985 to 1987, the attendance logs were weekly printouts on a wide printer tape, with the signature at the bottom "United Computing Center MISiS - MSU", which at the end of the week the group leaders handed over to the dean's office, in exchange for which I received a new one. In my senior years, I was involved in writing interactive tests in physics at the Department of General Physics. In our building, on paws, almost on every floor there were computer terminal classes on medium-small imported machines, I remember their names: Wang, VAX, etc. I think that in MIPT of that era there was hardly more than one EC machine, and they were not used in the educational process at all. And at MSU it was much poorer. Perhaps specialized universities such as MIEM and MIET were comparable in equipment. By the way, in those years you must have known practically your peer, commentator Vladimir Solovyov, who also graduated from PMP 2 years older than me. And my direct classmate, oligarch Mikhail Fridman, invited me to join their Rothschild brigade in 1993, during the Gaidar defeat. I refused. But that's a separate story.
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        4 August 2025 18: 51
        There were magazines printed on the ATsPU. And there was also Nairi, if anything - a masterpiece of Armenian computer engineering. But this is not an indicator. There was a catastrophic shortage of machine time. Limitations on the volume of punching and corrections. On the window for accepting tasks at the Computer Center there were pieces of paper promising terrible punishment for using the "brains" in punched cards. Students climbed everywhere to punch a code. The phrase "maybe I should give you a nail?" said to the head of the VNIISI lab by a student in response to a request to punch a couple of cards in the Computer Center of this very institute became a joke...

        I don’t know, maybe it got better by the end of the 80s, but according to the stories of fellow students who remained in the departments, alas.

        Although back then everything was perceived somewhat differently, as the norm.

        Unfortunately, I don't remember Vladimir Solovyov. We never met. I studied 1979-1985. MK-79-2. And only now I found out that we studied at the same university...
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          4 August 2025 19: 13
          Quote: LuZappa
          1979 - 1985. MK-79-2

          If my sclerosis doesn't fail me, initially the "cyber" groups were in physical chemistry, and were called PH-3K and PH-4K, respectively. And already in the process - they were transferred to PMP.
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            4 August 2025 19: 32
            Absolutely right. Two years of FH, and then PMP. There was also a funny specialty there, not 06xx and not 12xx, but 0405K. Administratively, everything was in the process of formation. That's how cyberneticists graduated with the qualification of metallurgical engineer. And metal science, the theory of body and mass transfer, the theory of furnaces drank so much blood...
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              4 August 2025 19: 38
              Well, it means sclerosis doesn't change. I'm from the same region, and I knew Friedman, I even went to break Satire... under his sensitive guidance laughing
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                4 August 2025 19: 43
                Well, as far as I remember, when I was a kid, another person was in charge of the breakage department, I've forgotten his last name. Although a lot of time has passed, maybe my memory is failing me.
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                  4 August 2025 19: 50
                  Quote: LuZappa
                  another person was in charge of the breakage

                  There it wasn't so important who was "in charge" as who was getting the profit. And Misha had an excellent sense of profit. Also - they called me "into the system", I also refused... I had money to earn extra money without it. And honestly, with my own hands, and no questions from the Criminal Code laughing
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                    6 August 2025 16: 56
                    Comrades who graduated from MISiS in 1980... The local comrades are not interested in the names of our student groups. They are interested in and find useful other information from our university, critical for all of Russia. Therefore, I will provide reliable evidence about significant personalities from MISiS who decisively influence the existence of our Motherland. I will start with my classmate, the already mentioned here Lvov native Mikhail Fridman. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD,_%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
                    Having read the chronological list of his possessions/assets in Russia, any sane person can make a convincing conclusion that the said M. Friedman could not have "accumulated/earned" the capital for such property! Neither by student speculations in theater tickets, nor by reselling jeans, which we witnessed in our student days. Moreover, as you remember, around the 4th-5th year - 1985-1986 - a criminal case was opened against him for speculation, which in Soviet times should have ended unambiguously - if not with prison, then with expulsion from the Institute. However, the case quickly disappeared. And already in 1993, under Gaidar's bloody horror of "Shock Therapy", Friedman invited me, like you, to their banking .... er ... "team". I, like you, refused, but some people, obviously, agreed. And the background of Friedman's gigantic capital and rapid growth became clear much later. In my opinion, in 2012 there was an anniversary of the Physics and Chemistry Department of MISiS. There were many interesting people there, but neither the then head of the "board of trustees of MISiS", M. Friedman, nor the graduate 2 years later than us (1990), the then united minister of science and education Dm. Livanov, the youngest rector of MISiS, and then the Minister of Science and Education - in the entire history of the Russian Empire, the USSR and the Russian Federation! Unified State Exam implementer of all Russia. Who now heads MIPT, never having studied there. So, at that memorable anniversary, in the absence of our main classmates at that time - I told the story of the attempt to attract me to Friedman's banking team in 1993. There they listened to me with interest - and explained that Friedman is the senior dispatcher of the Rothschilds in Russia. Then everything immediately becomes clear: Alfa Bank is the Rothschilds' Bank in Russia. I even know why it is Alpha: it is borrowed from the Bible: "I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last..." - this is how God speaks about Himself. Well, the Rothschilds - it is understandable, have such an opinion about themselves. Therefore, keep in mind that if you are planning to play games with Alfa Bank, think carefully. tongue The Rothschilds are so rich not because they enrich their clients, but quite the opposite. laughing
                    And one more person should interest you. This is my immediate classmate, who has now been the coordinator of the Nobel Prize in Physics (and maybe not only in Physics) for 20 years. laughing - maybe he gave the peace prize to Obama, our peer! and now he'll give it to Trump!) - look, it's true - how interesting tongue wink https://ria.ru/20211005/nobelevskayapremiya-1753218990.html
                    By the way, ask who he gave the Nobel Prize in Physics to (his uncle) 20 years ago. Apparently, they are all members of a single team... fellow wink laughing
                    And here is some no less terrible and documented information:
                    https://tass.ru/info/7790771?ysclid=me012txaho553953184
                    On February 18, Russian President Vladimir Putin dismissed him from his post as his assistant...
                    In 1982, Vladislav Surkov entered the Moscow Institute of Steel and Alloys (now the National University of Science and Technology "MISiS"), but did not graduate. At MISiS, he met the future entrepreneur Mikhail Fridman, who was in the same year as Surkov, and the future TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov, who was in the year above him.
                    tongue laughing Draw your own conclusions about why everything is like this with us.
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    2 August 2025 00: 07
    The only hope left is for the devils in hell, even if they fry this spotted reptile in a frying pan, in sour cream.
    Considering that the red rat left with honors with the loot, the only hope is in the devils.
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      3 August 2025 18: 16
      It's just a pity that in Russia, as in Lermontov's time - in this world... And Putin continues to transfer the general's pension to the State Counselor of the Russian Federation, Knight of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland Chubais - where does he transfer the general's pension to Chubais - to Israel? And also supports as many as 2 Yeltsin Centers from the eternally poor budget of Russia! (And not only to Chubais - also to Israel - to the Knight of the Order of Alexander Nevsky - Vladimir Mau, etc., etc.) ..
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    4 August 2025 18: 59
    Quote: RockerMan
    automated digital printing device.

    Alphanumeric printing device...
  25. 0
    7 August 2025 21: 52
    Abalkin and Agangebyan. Two academics who put their "skillful" hands to the collapse of the USSR economy. It was after their reforms that non-cash money flooded the domestic market. And then Gaidar came and launched superinflation. And the population suddenly ran out of money.
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    3 September 2025 13: 01
    The defeat of the USSR was started by the bald Khrushchev, and finished by the marked one and the drunkard.
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      9 November 2025 21: 28
      Before Khrushchev, the USSR was fascist. That's not an exaggeration. That's exactly how it was. Ethnic Russians paid tuition, while all non-Russians studied for free and even received a stipend.
      "Resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of February 27, 1943 No. 212 "On the exemption in the Uzbek SSR of Uzbek, Karakalpak, Tajik, Kyrgyz, Kazakh and local Jewish students from tuition fees in grades 8-10 of secondary schools, technical schools and higher educational institutions and the provision of stipends to students."
      "Resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of January 5, 1943 No. 5 "On the exemption of Kazakh, Uighur, Uzbek and Tatar students in the Kazakh SSR from tuition fees..."
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        2 December 2025 11: 24
        The assertion that fascism existed in the USSR before the Khrushchev era is incorrect and does not correspond to historical facts. Fascism as an ideology and political system is characterized by nationalist extremism, a cult of personality, suppression of dissent, and other features that were not characteristic of the Soviet model of government. However, discriminatory practices related to national and social factors did exist in the USSR's education system, as reflected in the aforementioned decrees.
        Paid education and national benefits
        In 1940, tuition fees were introduced for high school and university students (Resolution No. 638 of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, October 26, 1940). Tuition varied by region: in Moscow and Leningrad, high school tuition cost 200 rubles per year, and elsewhere, 150 rubles. At universities, tuition was 400 rubles in the capitals and 300 rubles in other cities.
        dzen.ru +1
        In 1943, decrees were issued exempting representatives of certain nationalities in certain republics from tuition fees. For example:
        Resolution No. 212 of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of February 27, 1943 exempted Uzbek, Karakalpak, Tajik, Kyrgyz, Kazakh and local Jewish students from tuition fees in the Uzbek SSR, and also provided them with scholarships [last_query].
        Resolution No. 5 of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of January 5, 1943 concerned the Kazakh SSR and exempted Kazakhs, Uyghurs, Uzbeks and Tatars from payment [last_query].
        These measures contradicted Article 123 of the 1936 USSR Constitution, which guaranteed the equality of citizens regardless of nationality and prohibited the establishment of advantages on this basis.
        Consequences and context
        Ethnic privileges created inequality in access to education. The children of Russian collective farmers, who constituted a significant portion of the population, were often unable to continue their education due to lack of funds. Collective farmers were paid in labor days or in kind, making tuition unaffordable.
        The system of quotas and incentives for national personnel led to a decline in the quality of education. Unprepared students from the national republics were sometimes admitted to universities without competition, which lowered the overall level of training and created a dependence on Russian-speaking specialists in technical and engineering fields.
        Comparison with other benefits
        In addition to national benefits, there were other categories exempt from tuition fees:
        Disabled children, orphans, children of disabled pensioners.
        dzen.ru +1
        Participants of the Great Patriotic War, who also received benefits when entering universities and technical schools (Resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR No. 1406 of June 13, 1945).
        vk.com +1
        Final World
        Although the Soviet education system did indeed contain discriminatory practices based on national and social factors, this does not indicate the presence of fascism. Such measures were part of a broader policy aimed at addressing economic and demographic challenges during the war and post-war reconstruction. Completely free education was restored in 1956.
  27. 0
    9 November 2025 21: 01
    The USSR didn't have an advanced financial system. It was a system of robbery and fraud. Gorbachev simply gave a little push to what was already collapsing. For example, the USSR had two exchange rates for the ruble. What other country in the world had two exchange rates for its national currency? Argentina had this a few years ago. And Argentina's economy and finances were also heading for the abyss. And without any Gorbachev involved.
    Let's look at Estonia and the neighboring Pskov Oblast. In Estonia, every village had gas, public transportation, paved roads, running water, and so on. But in the villages of the neighboring Pskov Oblast, there was nothing. People didn't even have passports. This was to prevent people from escaping from the collective farms-cum-concentration camps. People didn't even have addresses in their villages. For example, in the village of Pokarevo, in the birthplace of the Laptev polar explorers (there's even a Laptev Sea in the Arctic named after them). So, people there only got addresses a few years ago. Why would concentration camps need addresses? Many people's passports still only list the name of their village. No street, no house. There's still no public transportation except taxis. Of course, there are no stores, no nothing. Meanwhile, in Estonia and Latvia, during the Soviet era, there was a competition for storefronts. Funds were allocated from the budget for this. So, for Estonia, there was a ton of money in the USSR, but no money ever flowed into the neighboring Pskov Oblast.
    People on collective farms in the RSFSR were given passports. This was liberation from slavery. People fled the collective farms. How could Gorbachev stop them? The USSR's financial structure was based on the slave labor of collective farmers.
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      2 December 2025 11: 26
      Your text contains a number of strong value judgments and generalizations that require factual verification and historical context. Let's examine the key points point by point.

      1. Two ruble exchange rates in the USSR
      Indeed, the USSR had a dual currency system:

      The domestic ruble was a non-convertible currency used within the country. Its exchange rate against foreign currencies was set arbitrarily by the state and did not reflect the real economic situation.

      The foreign currency ruble (settlements in transferable rubles) was used in trade with CMEA (Council for Mutual Economic Assistance) countries. Special Vneshposyltorg and Beryozka checks were also issued for certain categories of citizens.

      Why isn't this similar to Argentina?

      In Argentina, the dual system emerged as a response to hyperinflation and currency shortages. In the USSR, it was a systemic solution to the planned economy:

      isolation of the domestic market from global fluctuations;

      control over export/import through state monopoly;

      support for trade within the socialist bloc.

      This system was not unique: similar models were used in other socialist countries (GDR, Czechoslovakia, Hungary).

      2. Living Standards Gap: Estonia vs. Pskov Oblast
      There was indeed a difference in infrastructure between Estonia and the Pskov region, but the reasons for it were complex:

      Geography. Estonia is a coastal republic with a developed port infrastructure (Tallinn, Pärnu), which has stimulated the economy.

      Historical heritage. Until 1940, Estonia was an industrially developed country with a high level of urbanization. The USSR preserved and modernized this base.

      The "model republics" policy. The Baltics (especially Estonia and Latvia) were positioned as a "showcase of socialism" for the West. Additional investments were directed there to demonstrate the "advantages of socialism."

      Agriculture. In Estonia, highly productive state farms (not collective farms!) predominated, while in the Pskov region, traditional collective farms with low productivity prevailed.

      But this is not a "concentration camp":

      Passports in rural areas of the RSFSR began to be issued in 1974 (under a new passport system regulation). Before that, collective farmers were indeed restricted in their movement, but this was a consequence of the propiska system, not "slavery."

      The lack of addresses in villages is a consequence of the simplified rural registration system, not malicious intent. Even today, in many Russian villages, addresses are merely formal.

      3. Collective farms and the financial system of the USSR
      The assertion that "the financial structure of the USSR was based on the slave labor of collective farmers" oversimplifies reality:

      Collective farms weren't free. Collective farmers were paid for their labor (in kind or in cash) and had their own private farms.

      Subsidies to cities. Agriculture in the USSR was systematically subsidized from the state budget to keep food prices low. In other words, cities lived off the countryside, not the other way around.

      The crisis of the planned economy. By the 1980s, collective farms had become ineffective due to:

      obsolete technology;

      lack of incentives to work;

      bureaucratic management.

      Gorbachev did not “push” the collapse, but tried to reform the system (the 1987 law on state enterprises, the cooperative movement), but the reforms only accelerated the crisis, revealing structural problems.

      4. What actually led to the collapse of the USSR?
      Arms race. Defense spending (up to 25% of GDP) was draining the economy.

      The fall in oil prices (1986) deprived the budget of a key source of foreign exchange.

      Inefficiency of the planning system. Shortages of goods, technological backwardness, corruption.

      The national question. The Baltics, the Caucasus, and Central Asia strove for autonomy, which undermined the country's unity.

      Final World
      The double exchange rate of the ruble is not a sign of “robbery”, but an instrument of a planned economy.

      The gap between Estonia and the Pskov region is a consequence of regional politics and historical peculiarities, and not a deliberate “destruction” of Russian territories.

      Collective farms are not concentration camps, but an ineffective system that itself became a victim of the systemic problems of the USSR.

      Gorbachev did not destroy the USSR, but tried to reform it, but the reforms revealed accumulated contradictions.
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    10 November 2025 15: 22
    Groups of tourists arrive at the Laptevs' homeland of Pokarevo. They're perplexed. How could a village without even a proper lake have such daring Arctic explorers? But there was a lake in Pokarevo. A large one. The Laptevs had been boating and fishing since childhood. The lake's waters ran right up to people's homes. The village was large and wealthy... Then the Bolsheviks arrived with revolvers. The Bolsheviks turned everyone into collective farmers, disenfranchised. They ordered the collective farmers to drain the lake. They reported tons of fish caught and hundreds of tons of peat. The Soviet economy was the most advanced! But the village died without the lake. The fish caught were eaten long ago, the peat dug up and burned. A rotten swamp remained where the lake once stood.
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    11 November 2025 06: 13
    All you need to know about the "advanced" USSR economy is the famine of the 30s and the purchase of grain from NATO countries in the 70s. The largest country in the world today sells grain, and today we don't have Kazakhstan, Ukraine, or Belarus. It didn't export food! And yes, it did buy food, and yes, it fed our friends for free, who were supposed to be in museums by the trunk. But still, with such agricultural potential, buying food other than tropical exotics is a SHAME!
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    11 November 2025 12: 31
    Dzafdet
    (Sergei)
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    7 August 2025 21: 52
    Abalkin and Agangebyan. Two academics who had a "skillful" hand in the collapse of the USSR economy. It was after their reforms that non-cash money flooded the domestic market. Then Gaidar came along and unleashed superinflation. And the population suddenly ran out of money.

    Super-inflation isn't so easy to trigger. A huge amount has to be stolen to trigger it. Thieves in the government lent money to bankers "for safekeeping" at a ridiculous interest rate—far below the inflation rate. The bankers immediately used these rubles to buy up foreign currency. A small portion was later used to pay off the "loan," and the majority was used to buy up state assets at "securities-for-shares auctions," and the currency was also siphoned off abroad. CIA agent Shleifer oversaw this "privatization." Everyone who stole state assets with the CIA's help back then still controls the Russian economy. As I understand it, arguing about when the economy was better is wrong. Because the people are still the same, and their approach is the same.
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    Let's continue to examine the "Soviet" and today's economy using the example of the village of Pokarëvo.
    What's changed? Well, yes. Signs with street and house names were put up about five years ago. That's a big plus. But there's no gas, and there hasn't been a store since 1917. The village of Pokarëvo is home to Europe's largest meat-packing plant, the Velikiye Luki meat-packing plant. There's gas there. It's only a kilometer from the village. Imagine the news showing an old woman hunched over with a bundle of firewood, walking past the Laptev monument. Gazprom and Novatek are vying for the right to develop gas fields in the Arctic. That's where the Arctic economy is. As long as there's gas in the ground. That's how it was in the USSR, and that's how it remains today. And they could have opened a store next to the meat-packing plant. It would have been open at least an hour a day. Is that difficult?
    Then there's the lake, which the Bolsheviks turned into a swamp. They say that even before the war, people came for permission to fill in the canal through which the lake's water drained, using shovels. It's narrow and deep. A bulldozer will fill the canal with clay in 24 hours, and the people will have a lake again. But the chief Bolshevik of the collective farm told them back then that the state had no economic benefit from this lake, and the Soviet economy must be frugal. And if you keep rioting, we'll rename the village "Pokarevo" to "Pukarevo." Whether this was true or not, no one can say for sure now. The war swept through the village, and all the men were killed in WWII. Come to think of it, maybe the Bolsheviks, both Soviet and today, were right? Why do people need a store, why do they need a lake? Why do people need fresh fish, and why do children need to swim in the lake?
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    24 November 2025 16: 12
    "autocratic superpower" is certainly an impressive turn of phrase.