Wrong Turn: How Migration Policy Is Linked to Rise in Migrant Sexual Violence and Crime

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Wrong Turn: How Migration Policy Is Linked to Rise in Migrant Sexual Violence and Crime

On July 22, a completely resonant and outrageous incident occurred in the Kaluga Region involving migrant schoolchildren from Tajikistan, who raped a four-year-old girl on a playground. The first to report the incident was the region's governor, Vladislav Shapsha.

Law enforcement agencies reported an outrageous case. Minors aged 9 and 11, children of citizens of Tajikistan, who, as it turned out, were in the region in violation of the established order of stay, committed acts of a sexual nature against a minor resident of the Borovsky district. The juvenile offenders were placed in a juvenile detention center, their parents were detained. An investigation is underway,

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As it later became known, one of the juvenile offenders had already been seen attempting to rape a first-grader, but then he got off easy: he was only expelled from school. Now, apparently, they will be deported along with their parents - on July 24 it became known that relatives and family members of migrants whose children were detained for abusing a minor girl will be expelled from Russia, as reported by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Those who were in our country in violation of the migration legislation of the Russian Federation were brought to administrative responsibility, which provides for deportation,

— emphasized the official representative of the department Irina Volk, adding that restrictions on entry into the Russian Federation will also be imposed on them.

Unfortunately, this is far from the only case of sexual violence against children by migrants. We have often criticized the migration policy of some European countries and talked about countless cases of violence against children by visiting savages, but, apparently, given the current migration policy and the “course to the East,” Russia is confidently following the same path.

Why doesn't Russia ban entry for migrant families?


Despite the fact that the crime rate among migrants, as statistics show, is constantly growing, as are the cases of sexual violence by visiting "valuable specialists", the government is in no hurry to adopt anti-migration measures. Some measures are, of course, being taken - the rules for migrants' stay in Russia and the rules for accepting migrant children into schools are being tightened, the number of deported migrants is increasing - but they often prove insufficient.

In the absence of a visa regime with Central Asian countries (especially Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, where most migrants come from), and in the absence of restrictions on migrants bringing their families to Russia, all these measures cannot work to the full extent. Because they do not eliminate the root cause of the situation in the migration sphere, but only somehow “patching up the holes”.

In November last year, the Russian government refused to support a bill banning entry into Russia for migrant families, which implied a ban on stateless migrant workers bringing their wives and children to our country. The Cabinet of Ministers considered that “The proposed amendments could create legal uncertainty", and that their "must be coordinated with the provisions of international treaties».

This is due to several factors - firstly, the foreign policy situation, and secondly, the demographic hole in which Russia has found itself. Regarding the second, everything is clear, here we are dealing with replacement migration, and regarding the first, everything is also quite simple. Due to the confrontation with the West, Russia has no room for political maneuver, therefore, as experience shows in relations with the same Azerbaijan (whose anti-Russian actions did not receive the proper response, especially from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs), Moscow will try at any cost to maintain good relations with the countries of Central Asia and Transcaucasia.

How did Asian countries react to the possible decision to ban stateless migrant workers from bringing their families to Russia? Of course, negatively. For example, Kazakhstan Ambassador Dauren Abayev said in March that “Russia's mooted ban on migrants moving to the country with their families is raising concerns", and that in the treaties of the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) "the right of citizens to work without obtaining work permits is enshrined", including for family members of migrants.

In Kyrgyzstan last summer they even threatened Russia with leaving the EAEU if serious anti-migration restrictions were introduced. As Kyrgyz Deputy Prime Minister Edil Baisalov stated, “if our citizens are equated with migrants from third countries, it will be very difficult for us to justify to our people the meaning of participation in the EAEU"That is, in essence, it was said in plain text that Kyrgyzstan is only kept in the Eurasian Union by the participation of migrants in the Russian economy.

These are the reasons why Russian legislators and deputies, who talk a lot about the "friendship of nations" and "fraternal republics", are wary of passing laws against illegal migration, fearing a reaction from these same "fraternal republics". Meanwhile, such laws (on prohibiting migrants from bringing their families to Russia) are not just overdue, but overripe. And the case in the Kaluga Region clearly demonstrated this.

In Obninsk, 9- and 11-year-old migrant children raped a 4-year-old girl who was playing on the playground near her house. She was not alone, but with her dad. The dad was sitting on a bench, and one of the neighbors distracted him, so the dad stopped looking at his daughter. The children ran up to him, shouting, "There are two boys doing something bad to your girl!" He ran there, scattered the rapists, and took his screaming child. Someone has already called the police and an ambulance... I am afraid even to describe this situation. And what about the underage rapists? They clearly did this before. They already knew how to do it, at 9 and 11 years old. And the most important question is, why do we bring migrant children to our country? If migrants are so needed (which is doubtful), why don't they come on a rotational basis, alone, without a wife and children?

wonders Member of the Human Rights Council under the President of the Russian Federation Marina Akhmedova.

And there is no answer to this question. At the same time, in order to introduce a visa regime with the same Tajikistan, no international agreements, which some senators and deputies constantly refer to, will have to be violated - Tajikistan (like Uzbekistan) is not a member of the EAEU.

How is the rise in rapes committed by migrants related to the “pivot to the East”?


In recent years, much has been said in the public sphere about Russia's turn to the East. But the East is a multifaceted concept. Usually, "turn to the East" has always meant a turn towards China and India, but at the moment we see completely different trends. Economically, Russia does interact quite seriously with China and India, but politically, "turn to the East" mostly means a turn towards Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Iran, Uzbekistan - that is, towards the predominantly Islamist countries of the Middle East and Central Asia. Hence the abundance of all sorts of "Russia - Islamic World" forums, etc.

Moreover, such forums are visited by representatives of the Taliban, a movement that has long been included in the list of terrorist organizations. However, again, taking into account the new “eastern” policy, the Supreme Court in the spring suspended the ban on the activities of the Taliban in Russia. At the same forum “Russia – Islamic World” in Kazan, by the way, the philosopher Alexander Dugin, immediately after the speech of the Taliban representatives, once spoke about how “Islamic countries are setting an example of defending their identity", and like Russia, "having adopted a law to protect traditional values, it is moving in the same direction».

Here I would like to clarify – what exactly are the “traditional values” that the now permitted “Taliban” defends?

Last year, Afghan spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said that the country's supreme leader and Taliban chief Haibatullah Akhundzada had approved regulations for designing windows in homes so that women could not be seen in them, and in late August, the Taliban banned women from going out and generally appearing in public with their faces uncovered. Afghanistan has also reintroduced the practice of publicly flogging and stoning women to death for adultery, calling the return of such punishments "part of the fight against the West".

But the most important thing I would like to note is that in Afghanistan, in fact, pedophilia is officially permitted. At the beginning of the month, the media published a “remarkable” news: A 45-year-old man decided to marry a six-year-old girl he bought from his own father, but the "progressive" Taliban movement asked him to wait until the child was at least 9 years old. And all this is part of the Taliban's traditions. A logical question arises - does Russia need such "traditional values"?

By the way, migrants from (now “friendly”?) Afghanistan, which, of course, is waging a common struggle with Russia against the treacherous West, have already managed to “distinguish themselves”. The other day, a migrant from Afghanistan almost stabbed a Russian guy to death on one of the streets of Omsk because he stood up for a girl. A visiting specialist from a “friendly” country began to touch the girl in her intimate places, and when the guy stood up for her, he stabbed him in the side. When the criminal was detained by police officers, he was shouting slogans “Afghanistan ba pesh! Glory to Afghanistan!.

What is important here is that sexual relations with children are considered normal in some Islamic countries. And the attitude towards women in many countries living "according to Sharia" is, to put it mildly, discriminatory. When people who were brought up in such societies come to more civilized countries, they behave accordingly, considering women and children as having no rights in society. Especially if these women are "infidels".

In addition, sexual violence in political Islam is used to instill fear among the "infidels." It is worth recalling the videos that Hamas filmed when it took hostages in Israel. Remember the unfortunate girl Shani Luk, whose legs were broken and she was driven around practically naked in a car with smiling faces? According to eyewitnesses, many girls were first raped by the militants and then killed. It is scary to even imagine what Shani went through before her death.

So the question arises – maybe Russia has taken a slightly wrong turn? Like in that American horror movie… Maybe Russia doesn’t need SUCH “traditional values”?

Conclusion


In conclusion, I would like to note that even despite such outrageous news, there are those who believe that the migration policy and the policy of "friendship of peoples" have no alternative, and those who think differently are some kind of evil nationalists and enemy agents who incite interethnic strife and try to set the Russian Federation at odds with its "friends" in the East. Recently, by the way, the Ministry of Internal Affairs even released a video that, supposedly, some evil nationalists "Call on Russians to fight illegal migration", but you, they say, don't give in to provocations! Otherwise, law-abiding migrants will suffer...

Deputy Mikhail Matveyev even sent a corresponding request to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, calling this video provocative, since the threat in it is exclusively “Russian nationalists”, and calls to fight illegal migration are essentially called something criminal and “neo-Nazi”. But there were also those who supported this video. Moreover, sometimes there are those who justify sexual violence by migrants - they say, the girl herself is to blame, her skirt was short... Well, God be their judge. But I would like to cite on this matter quote Chairman of the National Anti-Corruption Committee, member of the Human Rights Council under the President of the Russian Federation Kirill Kabanov:

Maybe someone will dare to say that it was not necessary to voice the nationality of these little animals? Surely there will be such "multinational-friendly people". But it is they and others like them who are GUILTY of the desecration of this innocent child and of many other terrible crimes against our citizens committed by foreigners. And because of these tolerasts, we still cannot establish strict order in our country and fully protect our women and children. Or will they tell me again that there is no need to "stir up, inflame and escalate"? And now I will answer these migrantophiles: look at your loved ones, your children, grandchildren, wives, and think about this desecrated 4-year-old girl, and then go to the mirror and look yourself straight in the eyes, and then try to confidently repeat "don't incite".
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  1. +2
    29 July 2025 03: 43
    Labor migration is a forced measure today. But certain rules must be observed. The migrant concludes (possibly through an agent) a fixed-term contract with the employer. Lives on the territory under the supervision of the employer. And does not have the opportunity to bring with him his entire "collective farm" in the form of a wife, children, etc., etc.
    1. +52
      29 July 2025 05: 31
      In the Moscow region, there are already groups in kindergartens where migrant children who speak Russian poorly make up the majority... It would be fine if they only spoke poorly, but when our children communicate with them, they try to imitate them and start speaking the same way... Often, their parents themselves do not know Russian at all and at the same time manage to obtain our citizenship, not hesitating to bribe our officials... We need to change and tighten all migration laws and our civil criminal code and stop the vicious practice of handing out our citizenship left and right... Introduce something like an American green card, which can be taken away at any time... It is sometimes more difficult for Russians who came from neighboring countries to obtain our citizenship than for migrants from Central Asia who live by their own laws... Well, if we do not respect ourselves so much, why do we expect that migrants will begin to respect us and live by our laws...
      1. +41
        29 July 2025 06: 49
        we don't respect ourselves that much,
        What kind of habit is this? As soon as you take responsibility, we And as for taking Crimea, that's his merit.
        I didn't invite migrants.
        1. +33
          29 July 2025 09: 13
          This constant “we”, i.e. shifting responsibility for the endless mistakes and defeats of the government onto the common people, and not onto the political elite, has become frankly boring.
        2. +23
          29 July 2025 16: 57
          I definitely agree. I am from Crimea and it was WE who annexed Crimea. And under Ukraine we had no migrants. Now we have UNMEASURED!!!
          1. +8
            30 July 2025 12: 44
            Quote: Yuri Guliy
            It was WE who annexed Crimea. And under Ukraine we had no migrants. Now there are INFANTILE !!!

            It turns out that it was precisely for the sake of and FOR the migrants that they were annexed.
            I'm from Donetsk. Soon after the start of the SVO, they also brought in this horde of "valuable specialists". But our people are tougher, so now there are a lot fewer of them.
            But in Mariupol EVERYTHING is already SET UP.
            Who is the culprit?
            Probably the one who is SO happy that “there are more and more Muslims in Russia.”
      2. +13
        29 July 2025 09: 41
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        manage to obtain our citizenship without hesitation in bribing our officials...

        So maybe we should take a closer look at these Judas officials? They give bribes when they are taken!
        1. +14
          29 July 2025 09: 55
          Here they told me, I don't know whether to believe it or not. Officials try not to take from Russians, but from Asians they take it with pleasure.
          1. +8
            29 July 2025 23: 48
            They don't take it from Russians because they can write a statement to the prosecutor's office
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. +32
        29 July 2025 09: 48
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        It is sometimes more difficult for Russians who have come from neighboring countries to obtain our citizenship than for migrants from Central Asia who live by their own laws.

        I applied for Russian citizenship, a family of five from Tajikistan received it before me, but I, a Russian born in Narva, was told to wait.
        I decided to stay LBG.
      5. 2al
        +11
        29 July 2025 12: 41
        The substitution of the Russian language in educational institutions and in education in general, and with money from the budget of the Russian Federation - is obvious, and especially in the regions where diasporas have become a parallel power, and their representatives are in government bodies, including the prosecutor's office. This has become a reality for Moscow and St. Petersburg, and not only in the regions of the Russian Federation.
      6. 0
        6 August 2025 15: 00
        not hesitating to give bribes to our officials...
        Why aren't "your" "officials" embarrassed to take these bribes?
        Ceterum censeo Washingtago delendam esse
    2. +50
      29 July 2025 05: 32
      Quote: Vladivostok1969
      Labor migration is a forced measure today.

      Tell this to Belarusians, who somehow manage without the influx of Asian villages.
      1. -2
        29 July 2025 06: 05
        "Belarus is seeing an increase in the number of labor migrants, while the share of foreigners in the labor market remains small. In 2024, the number of officially employed foreign citizens increased by 2,8 times, reaching approximately 2025 thousand people by the beginning of 34. Despite this dynamic, foreign workers do not have a significant impact on the labor market. The Belarusian authorities are actively working to attract foreign workers to solve the problem of labor shortages."
        I hope you know how to use the Internet. You'll find the rest yourself.
        1. +19
          29 July 2025 06: 09
          I didn't find any migrants coming from the entire village.
          1. +14
            29 July 2025 09: 51
            Quote: antiaircrafter
            I didn't find any migrants coming from the entire village.

            People from post-Soviet countries who “distinguished themselves” by committing mass murders in Syria probably dream of returning to their native lands and repeating the same thing in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and, of course, in Russia.
            1. +14
              29 July 2025 10: 09
              Now, Tajiks and Uzbeks who completed training in Syria have already appeared in the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
              I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these bogeymen end up on Russian territory, and even with Russian citizenship.
              1. +6
                29 July 2025 10: 35
                Quote: Vladimir M
                I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these bogeymen end up on Russian territory, and even with Russian citizenship.

                Most likely, some of these barmaleys are already on Russian territory.
        2. +12
          29 July 2025 07: 24
          Quote: Vladivostok1969
          The Belarusian authorities are actively working to attract foreign workers to solve the problem of staff shortages"

          Here we are talking about official employment. Our migrants mostly work illegally. Look at the warehouses of VB, Magnit, etc. There are only migrants working through shell companies. The state does not dare to touch big business, to force it to work honestly. And where there is shadow business, there are uncontrolled migrants.
        3. +5
          29 July 2025 07: 26
          I wonder... then how does all of the above fit in with the fact that the President of the Republic of Belarus stated that 150 Pakistanis with their families should be brought to Belarus? What will these families do? They don't know the language... What will all these children do? Not do the same thing as in Obninsk?
        4. +8
          29 July 2025 09: 20
          Meanwhile, the number of migrants in the Kaluga region has decreased by 2,5 times
          The number of foreign citizens in the region has decreased from 60 thousand in 2021 to 25 thousand in 2024 - almost 2,5 times. This was reported by Governor Vladislav Shapsha at a meeting of the regional government.
          the number of temporary residence permits decreased 20 times: from 7 thousand to 347;
          the number of work patents issued has decreased by 2 times: from 35 thousand to 18 thousand;
          the number of marriages with foreign citizens has decreased by 6 times;
          The number of deported migrants increased 16-fold - almost 1 thousand people in 2024.
          As a result of all this work: today there are 25 thousand foreigners registered with migration authorities in the region. In 2021, there were 60 thousand, the number of foreign citizens staying in the region has decreased by 2,5 times,
          - said the head of the region.
          Quote: Vladivostok1969
          I hope you know how to use the Internet. You'll find the rest yourself.

          So we can? We can or we don't want to...
          1. -9
            29 July 2025 09: 54
            And who told you that this is true? Paper will endure everything.
            1. +5
              29 July 2025 11: 49
              Quote from AdAstra
              And who told you that this is true? Paper will endure everything.

              And I don't force you to believe. You think that everything around you is permeated with lies and that there are only liars around. I feel sorry for you. I sincerely feel sorry...
              1. +1
                30 July 2025 02: 38
                "Russia is seeing an increase in the number of migrants, both entering and permanently residing in the country. In 2024, the migration growth of the population amounted to 568,5 thousand people, which is significantly more than in the previous year. At the same time, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the number of foreign citizens registered for migration exceeds 6 million people."
                Of course, you shouldn't believe everything.
          2. +7
            29 July 2025 12: 54
            The number of foreign citizens in the region has decreased from 60 thousand in 2021 to 25 thousand in 2024 - almost 2,5 times. This was reported by Governor Vladislav Shapsha at a meeting of the regional government.
            Many of these foreign citizens received Russian passports and ceased to be considered foreign citizens. sad
          3. +8
            29 July 2025 20: 05
            Well, in our city, for example, there are more of them.
            And more and more of these guests from sunny Asia are in the company of our local girls, already wrapped up from head to toe.
            I'm scared for my daughters, yes.
            1. -6
              30 July 2025 01: 09
              Quote from Kreta25
              And more and more of these guests from sunny Asia are in the company of our local girls, already wrapped up from head to toe.

              That's why it's strange to prohibit migrant workers from bringing their families, their wives and children. It's obvious that there should be more violent crimes if hundreds of thousands, if not a million men live in dorms without women, without responsibility for their families. In my opinion, it's strange to conclude from these 11-year-old rapists that migrant children should not be allowed into the country, this is an isolated case, and the usual case of violence by migrants is still from adults.
              1. +2
                30 July 2025 01: 19
                Quote: karabas-barabas
                children of migrants should not be allowed into the country

                Everyone (expletive) should not be allowed into the country, regardless of age, if they could pose a threat.
                1. 0
                  30 July 2025 01: 28
                  Yes, it is clear that it is not allowed, at least there should be documents from the courts and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the countries from which the migrant came, so that there are no surprises. But I mean that if there is a need for labor, then if we are talking about hundreds of thousands and more and for periods of more than a year, then considering that these are all men, if you do not let their wives to them, then most likely there will be orders of magnitude more violence. Especially if for local women only a minority of them are attractive enough for any kind of relationship.
            2. +1
              30 July 2025 09: 30
              I also see a large number of Russian guys who date Asian girls and even black women from among our students. The Central Asian female students are generally not that different from their Russian peers in terms of their level of liberation.
      2. -1
        29 July 2025 16: 29
        It's very simple: the level of wages in Belarus is not very high.
        1. +2
          29 July 2025 16: 29
          In Russia they also pay a lot.
          1. 0
            29 July 2025 18: 16
            There are no Russians willing to work in Belarus, not even one.
            1. +3
              29 July 2025 18: 20
              Exchanging small change for small change is just a waste of time.
              1. 0
                29 July 2025 23: 32
                Well, the cost of living in Belarus is lower. But even that doesn't compensate for their salary level.
          2. 0
            30 July 2025 15: 05
            In Russia they also pay too much
            Nurses at one of Moscow's hospitals (Tajik, by the way) are paid around 100 thousand rubles/month.
            The information is literally 3 days fresh.
            1. +1
              2 August 2025 18: 38
              Maybe they do pay in Moscow hospitals...
    3. +28
      29 July 2025 05: 47
      Quote: Vladivostok1969
      Labor migration is a forced measure today.

      Did they tell you this on TV? Then why is the salary in Russia low by world standards? That means there are enough workers!

      For example, the military-industrial complex urgently needed workers in 2022 (working in three shifts), raised the salary to a hundred... and immediately hired everyone! If salaries are not growing in the labor market, this means that there are enough workers.
      There is also a problem with qualified personnel. You can't just recruit them, you have to train them. And migrants from poor countries won't help here!
      1. +1
        29 July 2025 06: 11
        Quote: Stas157
        workers were urgently needed in the military-industrial complex in 2022 (to work three shifts), they raised the salary to a hundred... and immediately hired everyone! If salaries are not growing in the labor market, then this means that there are enough workers.

        You are forgetting a trivial nuance - the final cost of the military-industrial complex's products is of no interest to anyone, they will take it anyway. Especially considering the SVO

        But in agricultural sector, for example, it doesn't work like that anymore. For example, two Korean families of farmers stopped growing vegetables - migrant workers don't come, and ours demand a salary twice as much as it was. As a result, they now go to South Korea to work themselves, the workers are left without work, the land is empty, and there are fewer local vegetables on the market.
        1. +15
          29 July 2025 06: 17
          Quote: your1970
          now they travel to South Korea themselves

          Right. What are the salaries there? More than ours. The average is $2. Is that what they pay in the village? Everything works. Where they pay more, that's where they go.

          Here, one farmer cannot pay his workers more than the salary - he will go bankrupt. Because other farmers pay less. But if suddenly all farmers will not have enough workers, then inevitably the amount of payment to workers will increase greatly! The arithmetic is simple.
          1. -3
            29 July 2025 06: 24
            Quote: Stas157
            But if suddenly all farmers will not have enough labor, then inevitably the amount of payment to workers will increase greatly! The arithmetic is simple.

            And now our prices - June - for tomatoes have become equal to local ones (150-160) with Azerbaijani ones (190 rubles) - and the poor are left without tomatoes.
            Because the private sector grows little in courtyards
            1. +7
              29 July 2025 06: 53
              Do you know that our best deputies are passing laws that will punish the cultivation, and especially the trade in agricultural products.
              1. +1
                29 July 2025 07: 11
                Quote: Gardamir
                Do you know that our best deputies are passing laws that will punish the cultivation, and especially the trade in agricultural products.

                They have been accepted for a long time. The only trick there is in trade - documents need to be drawn up if you REGULARLY sell your products.
                1. Egg
                  +1
                  29 July 2025 19: 13
                  Quote: your1970
                  if you REGULARLY trade your products.

                  regularly what is that? and how can you explain the lack of documents to the local police officer who sits in the same village chat that you do NOT regularly sell raspberries, cucumbers and tomatoes from your plot and constantly post ads in this chat?
                  1. -1
                    29 July 2025 19: 32
                    First of all - read the law. Then send the local police officer away politely and tactfully - when they know that the person knows the law - they are more modest.

                    And yes, on the other hand - citizens "Oh, we bought a berry from a granny and almost died!! Fuck that granny!!" (C) - almost verbatim.

                    The problem is not new - the reseller "Uncle Misha" is shown in detail in "Station for Two". And the amount of money she has on hand...
                    1. Egg
                      +1
                      29 July 2025 19: 35
                      Quote: your1970
                      First of all, read the law. Then send the local police officer away politely and tactfully.

                      Do you know the proverb about the law?
                      and the local police officer doesn't give a damn where you send him, he drew up a report, and then you'll be jumping up and down.
                      1. 0
                        29 July 2025 20: 38
                        Quote: Telur
                        Quote: your1970
                        First of all, read the law. Then send the local police officer away politely and tactfully.

                        Do you know the proverb about the law?
                        and the local police officer doesn't give a damn where you send him, he drew up a report, and then you'll be jumping up and down.

                        Well, if you jump at every protocol, then you will continue to jump.
                        There are several ways to turn a protocol into a piece of paper - know the law, read the protocol, give an explanation with knowledge of the law the violation of which you are accused of, carefully look at the dates, time and order of filling out, demand a second copy in hand, compare them, put signatures after each end of the text tightly without the possibility of adding anything, keep an open (important!!) video recording - if possible.
                        You will appeal in any case.
                        And yes, you are not breaking the law.
                        If all this is there, it will be easier for the local police officer to fine stupid old women than to deal with you.
                      2. Egg
                        +1
                        29 July 2025 21: 57
                        Quote: your1970
                        If all this is there, it will be easier for the local police officer to fine stupid old women than to deal with you.

                        Well, let's say I fight back, okay, but it doesn't change the essence, he'll fine money, does that make you feel better?
                        Do you still remember how the dialogue started?
                        documents must be completed if you REGULARLY trade your products.

                        Quote: Telur
                        Regularly what does that mean?

                        ?
                      3. 0
                        29 July 2025 22: 20
                        Quote: Telur
                        Well, let's say I fight back, okay, but it doesn't change the essence, he'll fine money, does that make you feel better?

                        As soon as angry citizens stop moaning and writing complaints to all concerned and unconcerned places
                        Quote: your1970
                        And yes, on the other hand - citizens "Oh, we bought a berry from a granny and almost died!! Fuck that granny!!" (C) - almost verbatim.
                        - the law will become unnecessary.
                        And before that, the illiteracy of the old ladies is compensated by the literacy of the complainants....
                2. +1
                  30 July 2025 15: 14
                  They have been adopted for a long time. The only trick there is in trade - documents need to be drawn up if you REGULARLY trade your products.
                  Today I was at a conditionally spontaneous market of producers of their agricultural products in one of the district centers of the Tver region - grannies are selling. And seedlings and cucumbers, tomatoes from their garden, milk, honey. No one drives them away. They even sell wild berries. The trading place there is already traditional and known to all the locals. I already know the grannies by sight, because they are constantly selling there. They do not draw up any papers.
                  1. 0
                    30 July 2025 15: 19
                    Quote: Alexander X
                    They have been adopted for a long time. The only trick there is in trade - documents need to be drawn up if you REGULARLY trade your products.
                    Today I was at a conditionally spontaneous market of producers of their agricultural products in one of the district centers of the Tver region - grannies are selling. And seedlings and cucumbers, tomatoes from their garden, milk, honey. No one drives them away. They even sell wild berries. The trading place there is already traditional and known to all the locals. I already know the grannies by sight, because they are constantly selling there. They do not draw up any papers.

                    It could very well be. The cops and Rosselkhoz and Rospotrebnadzor simply ignored citizens' complaints or were in cahoots with shadow owners.
                    The reseller "Uncle Misha" from Soviet Do you remember "Station for Two"?
                    1. 0
                      30 July 2025 15: 28
                      Do you remember the reseller "Uncle Misha" from the Soviet "Station for Two"?
                      I am talking specifically about agricultural producers, because I know many of them (who trade there) personally. One of the old ladies' wives has been buying seedlings in the spring for 20 years, another one has berries - they took me there and showed me berry places, but picking berries is not my thing. They sell dairy products - their mini-farm with cows is 2 km away from me...
                      There are no Uncle Mishas there. Even mushrooms are sold there by local "producers", they will collect, sell and buy moonshine laughing
                      But the vegetable tent there is Caucasian or Asian. And it is clear that they do not grow melons or watermelons themselves. But that is another matter...
                      1. 0
                        30 July 2025 15: 33
                        Quote: Alexander X
                        Do you remember the reseller "Uncle Misha" from the Soviet "Station for Two"?
                        I am talking specifically about agricultural producers, because I know many of them (who trade there) personally. One of the old ladies' wives has been buying seedlings in the spring for 20 years, another one has berries - they took me there and showed me berry places, but picking berries is not my thing. They sell dairy products - their mini-farm with cows is 2 km away from me...
                        There are no Uncle Mishas there. Even mushrooms are sold there by local "producers", they will collect, sell and buy moonshine laughing
                        But the vegetable tent there is Caucasian or Asian. And it is clear that they do not grow melons or watermelons themselves. But that is another matter...

                        So they just gave up
                        Quote: your1970
                        The cops and Rosselkhoz and Rospotrebnadzor simply ignored citizens’ complaints or were in cahoots with shadow owners.

                        The ban on trading outside designated areas has not been lifted
            2. +5
              29 July 2025 06: 55
              And where should the private sector put them? In the Soviet Union, every village had a procurement office, so they grew them and sold them. And now?
              1. -1
                29 July 2025 07: 07
                Quote: DVostok-2
                And where should the private sector put them? In the Soviet Union, every village had a procurement office, so they grew them and sold them. And now?

                Bugaga ...
                The procurement office accepted them - but not perishable ones. The district consumer union took tomatoes, made preserves out of them and they stood for years on the bottom shelves of stores. And in the army - "a soldier will eat everything"...
                And how much they stole and how they cheated those who handed in the test is a whole other story. Everyone knows about the "neck with a chip" belay
                1. +5
                  29 July 2025 07: 16
                  You seem to be completely out of the loop. They even took bruised tomatoes for tomato paste. The quality of preservation depended on the shift, but if the technologist was smart, then the stupid shift managers didn't stay in place for long. But the main thing was that people had a place to hand over their garden produce (especially pensioners). Unlike "now".
                  1. -4
                    29 July 2025 07: 32
                    Quote: DVostok-2
                    You seem to be completely out of the loop. They even took bruised tomatoes for tomato paste. The quality of preservation depended on the shift, but if the technologist was smart, then the stupid shift managers didn't stay in place for long. But the main thing was that people had a place to hand over their garden produce (especially pensioners). Unlike "now".

                    Our consumer society didn’t have to deal with such crap - tomato paste - perhaps the volumes were small - a regional center, they rolled canned goods into 3-liter jars, nothing more.
                    1. +4
                      29 July 2025 07: 43
                      Well, we also have a district center, but at the cannery they bottled Kolokolchik lemonade and made their own cookies. Primorye, Chernigovka, if anything. Maybe you should change the chairman of the consumer union? They say it helps.
                      1. 0
                        29 July 2025 08: 02
                        Quote: DVostok-2
                        Well, we also have a district center, but at the cannery they bottled Kolokolchik lemonade and made their own cookies. Primorye, Chernigovka, if anything. Maybe you should change the chairman of the consumer union? They say it helps.

                        They poured lemonade, and moonshine, and ice cream, and made their own confectionery, and had a smoking shop (though people regularly got poisoned by semi-smoked sausage - 7 rubles a kilo, what the hell kind of expiration dates are there...).
                      2. +1
                        29 July 2025 08: 05
                        they poured lemonade, and moonshine, and ice cream, and made their own confectionery, and had a smokehouse
                        Oh, how! And how?
                        They put canned food in 3-liter jars, nothing more.

                        You are confused in your testimony, however.
                      3. -2
                        29 July 2025 08: 08
                        Quote: DVostok-2
                        You are confused in your testimony, however.

                        fool the conversation was about TOMATOES, Not???!!!! fool
                        Quote: your1970
                        Tomatoes took the district consumer union, I made canned food out of them and they stood for years on the bottom shelves of stores

                        Quote: your1970

                        The price of tomatoes became equal to the local ones (150-160) with the Azerbaijani ones (190 rubles) - and the poor were left without tomatoes.
                        Because the private sector grows little in courtyards

                        To which you responded with the procurement office...
                        Forgot the beginning???!!!
                      4. +2
                        29 July 2025 08: 12
                        Initially, the conversation was about the fact that the private sector is currently growing too little. I hinted why. And then it all started...
                        And don't twirl your finger at your temple: if you blow a hole, it will start whistling. Your "canned goods in 3-liter jars were twirl, no more" could be understood in two ways.
                    2. 0
                      29 July 2025 16: 31
                      They then distilled moonshine from them
          2. +1
            30 July 2025 01: 13
            Quote: Stas157
            Here, one farmer cannot pay his workers more than the salary - he will go bankrupt. Because other farmers pay less. But if suddenly all farmers will not have enough workers, then inevitably the amount of payment to workers will increase greatly! The arithmetic is simple.

            Rather, this will lead to the disappearance of all local farming from the market when imported fruits and vegetables are cheaper.
      2. +15
        29 July 2025 06: 35
        Quote: Stas157
        Why then is the salary level in the Russian Federation low by world standards?

        Because capitalism. "Efficient" ones will do everything to avoid paying workers, even under the threat of future social catastrophe. And as for the homeland, for capitalists it is where their personal bank account is...
        1. +10
          29 July 2025 06: 55
          And remember how in the late 80s we were told that businessmen are the bosses, not like the CPSU. The bosses will come and there will be rivers of milk, banks of jelly, we will all wear jeans and eat a hundred types of sausage at once.
          1. +3
            29 July 2025 07: 07
            Quote: Gardamir
            and there will be rivers of milk... we will all wear jeans... a hundred types of sausage...

            Well, they didn't deceive me, did they? laughing The store shelves are bursting with dairy products, 100500 types of sausage and most of them wear jeans... As for prices, no one promised affordability. wassat It's a pity, though, that not everyone talked about the other "charms" of capitalism back then, but everyone without exception had already felt them. There's more to come...
            1. +4
              29 July 2025 09: 23
              But sausage is not made of meat, jeans are not made of cotton, democracy is not the power of the people
          2. -2
            29 July 2025 07: 28
            Quote: Gardamir
            And remember how in the late 80s we were told that businessmen are the bosses, not like the CPSU. The bosses will come and there will be rivers of milk, banks of jelly, we will all wear jeans and eat a hundred types of sausage at once.

            In principle, they almost didn’t lie - there are jeans and sausages.
            It's just that the Soviet people didn't understand a damn thing about what they were reading - for example, in Nilin's novel "Probationary Period" capitalism during the NEP period is clearly and distinctly described, but everyone is interested in detective stories, nothing more.
            1. +1
              29 July 2025 09: 31
              It's in vain that you criticize so much. Being in the flow, we often do not see what is happening around us; for objectivity, we need a view from the outside.
              For example, in August 1991 I couldn't imagine that what happened would happen. But now I see it, but I can't influence the situation. So what's the difference?
              1. 0
                29 July 2025 09: 48
                Quote: Gardamir
                For example, in August 1991 I couldn’t imagine that what happened would happen.

                Didn't you understand that if Rust sat on Red Square, then the border is not locked? What if miners in 1989 demand all ruble and 50% of foreign currency proceeds from coal sales, then the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are "all right", and the Criminal Code doesn't work? What if soldiers in tanks are beaten over the head by CIVILIANS in August 1991, then there is no power at all, it's over?
                Everything was quite clear and obvious - minimal It took effort to realize what was happening.
                Another question is that the population thought that "this doesn't concern us, it's just them doing something weird in Moscow. We've seen worse, they'll make a fuss and then calm down." - without delving into what is happening.
                1. +4
                  29 July 2025 09: 54
                  Well, now make a forecast. The Internet is being disconnected. Trains and airports are stopped. Migrants are being brought in. Lavrov makes a statement that he does not need the territory of Ukraine, but the SVO will continue. The SCO and BRICS are not allies. What awaits us?
                  1. -4
                    29 July 2025 10: 20
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    They are bringing in migrants.

                    Migrants and new citizens are leaving en masse - starting with the mobilization. I see it every day - significantly more are leaving than arriving. Our taxi drivers' business is slowly dying out.

                    Quote: Gardamir
                    Lavrov makes a statement that he does not need the territory of Ukraine, but the SVO will continue.
                    Naturally we don't need the territory - we can't afford it. It's always been obvious - too big an area, too many people and too much expense
                    Paying pensions to 5-7-10 million Ukrainian pensioners, disabled people, benefits, etc. - no budget can handle it
                    It was planned roughly as in Kazakhstan - they came in, changed, and left.
                    We needed someone 100% loyal and ready to suppress the Banderites - himself, with our support at most. And even Ze could have been such a figure - if he had listened to us and not the English. Or did you seriously believe that it was possible to occupy a country of 35 million people with our forces in the North-Eastern Front?

                    Quote: Gardamir
                    SCO and BRICS are not allies.
                    - quite allies if you treat them not as to the VD and CMEA.

                    In general, in my opinion, the collapse of the Russian Federation is not expected in the next 5-10 years.
                    Z. Y.
                    If I make a mistake, then I will be like Lenin with his "we won't live to see the revolution" (c) lol
                    1. -1
                      29 July 2025 11: 10
                      The state is deliberately putting pressure on taxi drivers. Russian taxi drivers told me this.
                      As for not being able to handle it. These guys can't handle anything anymore.
                      Of course he didn't talk about the SCO and BRICS, but his speech sounded ambiguous, like Russia is alone in this world.
                      1. 0
                        29 July 2025 12: 47
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        The state is deliberately putting pressure on taxi drivers.

                        Lol. Don't get confused. urban taxi drivers, intercity and taxi drivers exporting migrants from Moscow. These are different castes of taxi drivers....
                        Previously they transported migrants to the border - now they just take them away...

                        Quote: Gardamir
                        As for not being able to handle it. These guys can't handle anything anymore.
                        - daily direct pension payments (excluding expenses for maintaining the Pension Fund) - 28 billion.
                        Do you seriously think that the government planned to add several million more pensioners?
                        You forget that there nothing was built or repaired...
                        And what can't be written in the law "citizens of the Russian Federation and citizens of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Ukrainian region - with a pension of 1/4 of the pension of citizens of the Russian Federation"
                        Here, whether these or those, no one can handle it.

                        Quote: Gardamir
                        Of course he didn't talk about the SCO and BRICS, but his speech sounded ambiguous, like Russia is alone in this world.

                        Hmm, and when was she? "not alone" in the whole world? And what does it mean - not one?
                        Now, are the US alone or not - if tomorrow they withdraw troops from all countries? I won't be surprised - if after that they spit in the face of the American ambassador
                      2. +4
                        29 July 2025 14: 08
                        By the way, on the topic. You say that if we annex Ukraine, we will go broke on pensions. But how many migrants were not just brought in, but turned into Russians, and everything is paid for them, apartments are given, health insurance is paid for, and pensions too.
                      3. 0
                        29 July 2025 14: 53
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        You say that if we annex Ukraine, we will go broke on pensions.

                        I'm not saying that we'll go broke on pensions - I'm saying that this is a big budget item.

                        Quote: Gardamir
                        How many migrants were not just brought in, but turned into Russians, and everything is paid for them, apartments are given, health insurance is paid for, and pensions too.
                        apartments are given to individuals - families with many children. With USSR pensions - they pay, there are agreements, according to modern ones - without our experience - social services. Medical assistance - as for all citizens of the Russian Federation.
                        If they are citizens of the Russian Federation, then it is impossible to write in the laws "Citizens of the Russian Federation and black citizens of the Russian Federation".
                        And yes, in any case there are fewer migrants than Ukrainians
                      4. Egg
                        +2
                        29 July 2025 19: 33
                        Quote: your1970
                        Apartments are given to individuals - families with many children.

                        not so few, you're being modest here... and almost all of them have many children, what can you do?
                        We had two whole microdistricts of old, wooden, former dormitories, first they allowed the privatization of rooms, then they allowed registration for these rooms, then they started resettling and people managed to get apartments and keep the rooms for themselves, supposedly for relatives registered...
                        Right now, in the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, Artyukhov has adopted a program for resettlement from dilapidated and hazardous housing and has begun to build residential high-rise buildings in microdistricts. And a completely normal town has turned into an aul. They have begun to demolish these dormitories, and they have begun to resettle people from these dormitories into apartments, but there is already an aul registered in almost every room.
                        People who have lived in YAMAL for 40 years cannot move to other regions under the pensioner resettlement program; the program has been practically abandoned, all the money has gone to resettlement from dilapidated and emergency housing, the queue is in the tens of thousands.
                        But Artyukhov found it not enough; not long ago he announced that he wanted to bring in even more migrants...
                        In Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug, a deputy even declared that this region is the historical homeland of the Uzbeks, although he has already been kicked out, they say he left for Turkey.
                        Where the hell are we heading, I don't know...
                      5. -1
                        29 July 2025 20: 24
                        Quote: Telur
                        First they allowed the privatization of rooms

                        To do this, it was necessary to have a Soviet warrant for this room or prove in court the length of time of residence.
                        Quote: Telur
                        then they allowed registration for these rooms, then they started resettling people and people managed to get apartments and keep the rooms for themselves, supposedly for relatives who were registered...
                        Registration is only important for those who lived there before 1998.
                        It is not legal to receive apartments instead of rooms in emergency housing and at the same time keep the rooms in emergency housing.
                      6. Egg
                        +1
                        29 July 2025 21: 20
                        Quote: your1970
                        Registration is only important for those who lived there before 1998.
                        It is not legal to receive apartments instead of rooms in emergency housing and at the same time keep the rooms in emergency housing.

                        normally close relatives are registered in a privatized room, there are no problems, but these close relatives...
                        The family living in the room receives a new apartment, and the relatives remain. We have dilapidated buildings for 10-15 years... but they are not recognized as dilapidated until new housing is built, and those recognized as dilapidated have been standing without being resettled for another 3-4 years.
                      7. -1
                        29 July 2025 22: 07
                        Quote: Telur
                        The family living in the room receives a new apartment, and the relatives remain.

                        If only it were that simple - ALL they would register 50 people and receive 10-20 apartments
                  2. +3
                    29 July 2025 12: 27
                    We are expecting a change of power and as a result of not very pleasant events, the Russian National Government of the right will finally come to power, which will call a spade a spade, the old Soviet state grandfathers will be driven out to their dachas, migrants will be driven home and will be brought in according to the UAE principle (you broke the law, lost your arm and all your relatives are forever banned from entering Russia, no families, the most polite and respectful attitude towards local residents), communists will be declared mentally ill people (but naturally they will not be persecuted), the Wagner PMC will be returned, the SVO will be won in 3-4 months.
                    It will be so. Enough already in Russia of non-Russians and Russian multinationalists-friends of the people ruling, who are simply pissed in the face and they shout "this is our strategic ally"!!!! Fucking losers
                    1. +1
                      30 July 2025 03: 14
                      There are more migrants in the UAE than natives. If they go crazy, even the army won't save them. The UAE example is a blatant fail.
                      So the army without Wagner fights much more successfully. Wagner practiced meat assaults. They laid down 20 thousand for one Bakhmut. And why do we need such warriors?
          3. 0
            30 July 2025 01: 22
            Quote: Gardamir
            And remember how in the late 80s we were told that businessmen are the bosses, not like the CPSU. The bosses will come and there will be rivers of milk, banks of jelly, we will all wear jeans and eat a hundred types of sausage at once.

            But still, compared to 1985-1991, today we are better off with food, clothing, furniture, etc., and a car has not become a luxury item. But of course, the Russian Federation could develop much better, having such a huge financial base as resources. All these concepts of market, capitalism can be a blessing for a few and slavery for the rest, or, if together with the market and capitalism the state takes care of trade unions, rules and laws, then the rest can live well, following the example of Western Europe, it is called a social market economy.
            1. 0
              30 July 2025 01: 26
              Quote: karabas-barabas
              But still, compared to 1985-1991, today is better

              Well, you found something to compare it to. Compared to 1991 to 2000, now it's paradise.
              1. +1
                30 July 2025 01: 47
                Well, it's not me who's comparing, but the person I was answering to. I'm from northern Kazakhstan and I remember the times when there was nothing, really nothing, from 85-87 to 91-92, then they allowed businessmen and they filled us with everything we needed. Of course, people were still poor, but they didn't stand in lines for 300g of butter in one hand. It was necessary to allow private property to reasonable limits, small business and production of all consumer goods, clothing, furniture, a service market, taxis, workshops and food back in the 70s, as the Chinese did, and no one would have thought about it in the 80s, and I'll say more, they wouldn't have allowed the USSR to collapse. The military-industrial complex, the railways, the energy system, large-scale industry should have been left state-owned, with the participation of small private contractors. In short, it was possible to make a candy out of the country, where workers and employees live prosperously, without passing on a shabby wall unit from the hall and a chest of drawers by inheritance, having everything for the convenience of life made in the USSR, without the super-rich. Good examples to follow are the former Yugoslavia, the Scandinavian countries, Switzerland.
                1. -1
                  30 July 2025 12: 16
                  Quote: karabas-barabas
                  Good role models former Yugoslavia

                  Well, they also ended badly, no matter what. I mostly agree with the rest. hi
        2. +5
          29 July 2025 16: 07
          Because of capitalism.
          And what about the West, isn't it capitalism? There are capitalists there too, but they pay for their work because they live in their own country, for their own country, not like the Russian newcomers who rob Russia to live beautifully in the West...
          1. +2
            29 July 2025 20: 28
            Quote: Ilnur
            And what about the West, isn't it capitalism? There are capitalists there too.

            There is capitalism there too, but they have had it for centuries... and many of their "successes" to this day are based on unequal exchange, or more simply - on the robbery of other countries/peoples. Therefore, the general standard of living there is naturally higher than anywhere else. Other capitalists, who are younger, have it much more difficult, because there are too few places for capitalist robbery/markets, and old seasoned competitors are putting pressure, so hoping for high incomes for the majority is simply naive...
          2. Egg
            +3
            29 July 2025 21: 27
            Quote: Ilnur
            There are also capitalists there, but they pay for their work because they live in their own country, for their own country,

            All social changes in other capitalist countries began after the formation of the USSR, or more precisely in the late 30s, when the young Soviet Republic survived the civil war and more or less began to get back on its feet, so as not to allow something similar to happen to itself. Before that, the people were treated in much the same way as we do now.
            1. +2
              29 July 2025 22: 22
              All social changes in other capitalist countries began after the formation of the USSR,

              And our "reformers" in power, on the contrary, instead of moving forward, brought back capitalism, taking all the worst from there and robbing their people...
              1. +1
                30 July 2025 01: 28
                Quote: Ilnur
                taking the worst from there

                Well, it’s the worst for the people, but the best for them.
      3. -4
        29 July 2025 07: 46
        Have you forgotten about unskilled labor? Find loaders and janitors.
        1. +5
          29 July 2025 08: 01
          Quote: Vladivostok1969
          Find movers and janitors.

          Payment issue. Pay as couriers at least - there will be no end to the janitors.
          1. -17
            29 July 2025 08: 05
            Quote: Stas157
            Pay as much as couriers at least - there will be no end to the janitors

            Won't the janitors' faces crack?
            1. -13
              29 July 2025 09: 54
              Quote: Paranoid62
              Quote: Stas157
              Pay as much as couriers at least - there will be no end to the janitors

              Won't the janitors' faces crack?

              The janitors seem to have taken offense and are actively downvoting. I didn't know that there were only... janitors here. laughing
              1. 0
                29 July 2025 11: 35
                Yeah, right..And there are enough couriers. And stupid ones at that.
              2. +1
                29 July 2025 20: 27
                Quote: Paranoid62
                Quote: Paranoid62
                Quote: Stas157
                Pay as much as couriers at least - there will be no end to the janitors

                Won't the janitors' faces crack?

                The janitors seem to have taken offense and are actively downvoting. I didn't know that there were only... janitors here. laughing

                And you thought!!! Either military pensioners or military courtiers - military pensioners out of habit, and the military courtiers were offended on behalf of their civilian colleagues...
            2. +6
              29 July 2025 09: 59
              It won't crack. But your crown might crack when you slip on an uncleaned sidewalk and hit your head on it.
              1. -12
                29 July 2025 10: 03
                Quote from AdAstra
                It won't crack

                It will definitely crack.

                Quote: Stas157
                Pay as much as couriers at least - there will be no end to the janitors

                Couriers are paid by hamsters who are too lazy to go to the store. And the janitor is paid by tenants who don't give a damn about rent increases. And so - the janitors' faces will crack... they will help her Yes

                Quote from AdAstra
                And your crown might crack when you slip on an uncleaned sidewalk.

                If specifically about me - there is a janitor in my house, and in the neighboring ones too (he is the same). From six plots he earns quite well... plus collected metal, and other goods from the garbage - there he is first in line, of course.

                And you don't have to pay him "like couriers"... or else his face will crack laughing
                1. +1
                  29 July 2025 11: 35
                  In Mauritania you can buy slaves semi-legally - bring a batch and no one will get into trouble
            3. -2
              30 July 2025 01: 58
              Quote: Paranoid62
              Won't the janitors' faces crack?

              In the West there are no janitors, everyone cleans their own area, or apartment residents take turns in front of the entrance, or hire a company. Roads to houses, garbage removal are done by municipal services and this is a very well-paid job.
          2. -3
            29 July 2025 09: 51
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: Vladivostok1969
            Find movers and janitors.

            Payment issue. Pay as couriers at least - there will be no end to the janitors.

            After which you will see the righteous anger of the residents - "Au ...
            1. 0
              29 July 2025 10: 15
              Do you think that the janitors got anything from the previous raises?
              1. -4
                29 July 2025 10: 46
                Quote from AdAstra
                Do you think that the janitors got anything from the previous raises?

                Got it - otherwise you wouldn't have janitors
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              0
              29 July 2025 21: 36
              Quote: your1970
              After which you will see the righteous anger of the residents - "Au ...

              At least the janitors were paid officially, migrants are hired because they can be paid in half, they won't run and complain, and in general it's high time to bring order to the housing and communal services, in my memory, well, in our town, 5 or 6 housing and communal services have changed, and the first ones didn't even bother to rename themselves, they were called Housing and Communal Services-1, Housing and Communal Services-2, Housing and Communal Services-3, the previous ones all went bankrupt, but all the management smoothly moved to the new housing and communal services, although after the penultimate one, 3 of them were formed at once, apparently the management couldn't divide the money..., and then the mayor changed, apparently that also had an effect.
        2. +2
          29 July 2025 18: 51
          I can't say anything about loaders, but I know about janitors that IF YOU WORK, you can earn good money. Somewhere on VO I already gave an example of a janitor I know who is doing well, but there is one problem: management companies and homeowners' associations are deliberately looking for migrants in this field. That same janitor told me this.
      4. +4
        29 July 2025 12: 41
        Quote: Stas157
        Why then is the salary level in the Russian Federation low by world standards?

        Labor productivity, non-functioning trade unions, lack of mass struggle of hired workers for their rights, import of migrants to create pressure on the labor market.
        1. Egg
          +2
          29 July 2025 21: 49
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Productivity

          I disagree here... since I have experience, at one time, we implemented a joint project with the Americans twice, the Americans had curators who monitored the construction of pipelines, and in both cases they were dumbfounded, how is it possible to build anything in our conditions at all.. -40...- 45, we have everyone plowing, blowers, bulldozers, excavators, a blizzard - they plow indifferently, supplies are lagging behind, they are getting by, but the plan is being fulfilled, I have a Komatsu 355 in the swamp, it rides like on asphalt. In June, the swamps have already begun to thaw, and we did not have time to lay 2,5 km of pipe in the trench, we are flying over the highway in a helicopter, the customer is watching the execution, he saw that Kamatsu is up to the cabin in swamp muck, he is raking up the earth with a blade, pushing the pipe into the trench and filling it up, he almost freaked out, he signed the execution before he even reached the helipad...
          and here you are telling tales about labor productivity, maybe somewhere on collective farms productivity was not shown, but it is unlikely, when you look at the harvest, people did not get out of the combines for days...
          Gorbach the Spotted kept talking about efficiency and productivity, and to these songs he launched his reforms, which led to what we have now...
          1. -1
            30 July 2025 01: 43
            SMT, SSK GAZREGION, NGKM?
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              0
              30 July 2025 13: 58
              Quote: Semak
              SMT, SSK GAZREGION, NGKM?

              It was around the mid 90s.
              At that time, geological exploration, having lost its job and having grabbed licensed areas, rushed to create joint ventures with the Americans for the development and extraction of oil and gas. Some are still alive, having gotten rid of American shareholders, such as, for example, "Geolbent" or "Yangpur", although there have already been more than one change of owners and founders.
              The companies you mentioned weren’t even in the project at that time.
              1. 0
                30 July 2025 15: 44
                The companies you mentioned weren’t even in the project at that time.

                I agree about the last two, and the welding and assembly trust began its history back in the Soviet Union in the 40s.
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                  -1
                  30 July 2025 16: 20
                  it is quite possible hi

                  "The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information." - what kind of strange notions do they have about usefulness. wassat
    4. +10
      29 July 2025 06: 00
      Quote: Vladivostok1969
      Labor migration is a forced measure today. But certain rules must be observed. The migrant concludes (possibly through an agent) a fixed-term contract with the employer. Lives on the territory under the supervision of the employer. And does not have the opportunity to bring with him his entire "collective farm" in the form of a wife, children, etc., etc.

      For this, it is necessary that our government (and their children) live in Russia, and not “on another planet.”
      In ordinary Russia, and at least sometimes encountered ordinary migrants.
      If a case like the one in the article had happened to the family of one of the closest "friends" - then there might have been a reaction.
      And so - we are in Russia, and they are on another planet.
      1. +10
        29 July 2025 06: 55
        Quote: Vladimir-TTT
        For this, it is necessary that our government (and their children) live in Russia, and not “on another planet.”
        Here it is not even about the famous phrase from the film - "The government lives on another planet, my dear...", but about who this government sits under, as well as Russia as a whole, in capitalism picked up from the garbage heap of history. Why and why does our "brutal" government need these dances, with a menacing puffing out of its cheeks... To be a member of the WTO, with a million sanctions, to disgrace itself under "white" flags at the Olympics, bending over under the IOC, to have a Central Bank, which in fact continues to sit under the IMF/Fed, and, lends more to someone else's economy than its own... Finally, on the topic, why did we need to join the IOM?
        Were they tortured, were they forced? Who holds the real power, who is the puppeteer of all these processes? Let us recall that deputy Mikhail Matveyev published a program - "The International Organization for Migration (IOM) for the resettlement of Tajiks and Kyrgyz to Russia."
        President V.V. Putin signed this document as part of the process of Russia's accession to the IOM (finally in 2021). So, according to the document, Putin took on the obligation to combat poverty in the Central Asian states and, as part of these obligations, decided to resettle millions of Tajiks and Kyrgyz to Russia. Hence the mass issuance of passports to them, and the settlement of entire regions with wild Central Asians, and state programs to suppress Russian identity and increase tolerance towards migrants.
        The question is, who exactly, under the guise of IOM, is managing migration from Central Asian countries to Russia? It is the British government, through its UKAID fund and British intelligence, MI6.
        "And so - we are in Russia, and they are on another planet".
        They are in capitalism, which has a world leader and the master of this already planetary system. Therefore, "if you live with wolves, howl like a wolf", therefore, Russia is a cash cow and a squeeze lemon, therefore, those who keep their treasures and have palaces with the enemies of Russia, do what is needed by world capitalism.
    5. +11
      29 July 2025 06: 07
      A forced measure? This is so exaggerated. For some reason, an Uzbek doesn't go to a village in Kuban to sweep the streets. All the workers are locals. I don't even see them at construction sites, this migration... Maybe it's something else entirely? Was it the rabble that was needed, and not real specialists?
      1. -3
        29 July 2025 06: 10
        The police are used to raiding migrants at construction sites. But I'm not ready to go to work in a village in Kuban, I'm sure that you don't live "of the land" either.
        1. +2
          29 July 2025 06: 12
          Are you sure? I work as a regular technician at an agricultural processing plant.
          1. +10
            29 July 2025 06: 25
            I would like to add. One of the ways in which a labor shortage arises is not in demography, but in the elementary greed of responsible managers in all areas. For example, an elevator. People leave because of low wages, but someone goes to get a job in their place. But it is no longer there, the positions are divided among the management. And someone needs to work. The harvest is in full swing, soon the sunflower will be here.
            1. -1
              29 July 2025 06: 39
              I work in a warehouse. I have only two colleagues under 50 out of seven (of those who have normal citizenship). In total, there are 20 of us. Should I tell you who the rest are?
              1. 0
                29 July 2025 07: 03
                Quote: Vladivostok1969
                I work in a warehouse. I have only two colleagues under 50 out of seven (of those who have normal citizenship). In total, there are 20 of us. Should I tell you who the rest are?

                Yes, tell me. Very interesting. And what city are we talking about? If Vladivostok, are there Uzbeks and Tajiks there too?
                1. +4
                  29 July 2025 07: 42
                  Yes, Vladivostok. Mostly Uzbeks.
            2. +1
              29 July 2025 14: 43
              One of the ways in which labor shortages arise is not in demography, but in elementary greed responsible managers in all areas.

              drinks
            3. 0
              29 July 2025 14: 46
              But he's gone now, the positions are divided among the management. And someone has to work.

              the volume of work performed has remained - it is "unchanged"...
              actual productivity - increased (since - 1 worker)...
              and the productivity included in the cost of the work performed is not: because the rate was divided...
      2. +1
        29 July 2025 06: 26
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        For some reason the Uzbek does not go to the village

        They travel in groups. Because they can barely speak Russian. Perhaps your village is too small for a group of migrants. And then they don't travel spontaneously. A person from the diaspora negotiates everything. He decides all the issues. If you contact him, he will allocate migrants to you. Don't thank him.
        1. 0
          29 July 2025 14: 49
          Negotiates everything person from the diaspora.

          usually such issues are resolved by bai...
      3. +1
        29 July 2025 06: 34
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        The workers are all locals. I don't even see them at construction sites, this migration...

        If it costs 600 for the work to build a roof on your house, naturally the local builders will drive out the migrants. Here it costs that much to build a house with finishing work, and even here they don't really let migrants into the teams
        1. 0
          29 July 2025 07: 02
          Where is "your place"? The square footage of the house? With or without the cost of building materials (not to mention the land)?
          1. 0
            29 July 2025 07: 14
            Quote: DVostok-2
            Where is "your place"? The square footage of the house? With or without the cost of building materials (not to mention the land)?

            Saratov region, 120 sq.m., naturally without materials fool -
            Quote: your1970
            behind work
    6. +6
      29 July 2025 10: 45
      The issue of labor migration has long been resolved in the Gulf countries. All that is required is to take their best practices and apply them. A labor migrant has no rights. He lives outside the city in a special settlement, not a concentration camp of course, but quite close. He has a minimum of time to get from his place of work to the camp, if the police catch him at an inappropriate time - a fine, a repeat - a larger fine, a third time - deportation. In the event of a crime - first the maximum term, then deportation and a lifelong ban on entry. There is practically no crime among migrants.
      1. +4
        29 July 2025 11: 02
        For Grandfather, everyone is equal, everyone is one people, everyone is one big family. Grandfather did not see pogroms and genocide against the Russian people.
    7. +2
      29 July 2025 11: 00
      It works on paper. Without the human factor, without problems with the staff of regulatory bodies, and so on. But when we have problems in each sphere that are growing like a snowball + a shortage of personnel, we get serious risks of destabilization within countries and there simply may not be enough forces to stop them.
    8. 0
      30 July 2025 00: 07
      What are you talking about "forced measures"? Who is forcing whom and under what pretext (or bending to someone's advantage) - can you explain?
      Here's a better ignored example
      The Governor of the Amur Region spoke about the effect of the ban on migrant labor
      Several years ago, people from China and the CIS were banned from working in agriculture and gold mining in the region.

      Amur Region Governor Vasily Orlov said that the regional law banning migrant labor in some areas, adopted five years ago, turned out to be beneficial for the local economy. The head of the region took part in the SolovyovLIVE show last week.

      According to the official, migrants from the CIS countries and neighboring China were banned from farming and working in gold mining enterprises. The reasons for this decision were as follows: in agriculture, it was necessary to provide jobs for local personnel, and in subsoil use, questions arose regarding the migrants working in this area in terms of compliance with environmental standards.

      Orlov recalled that farmers were particularly opposed to this, claiming that the rural population of the Amur Region was literally drinking itself to death, and there would be no one to work. But the opposite happened, and now the volume of agricultural production in the region is growing every year.
    9. +1
      30 July 2025 08: 53
      This is not labor migration. This is the destruction of the white race.
  2. +19
    29 July 2025 03: 55
    Moscow will try at any cost to maintain good relations with the countries of Central Asia and Transcaucasia.

    Then Moscow risks losing good relations with its own people.
    Kremlin politicians will have to choose between a bad and a very bad option for themselves.
    I believe that the direct blame for what happened to the 4-year-old girl lies with the Russian government and the State Duma.
    This danger hangs over all children in our country...in any city there will be a couple of migrant little beasts ready to rape, rob, and kill our children. am
    1. +1
      29 July 2025 06: 59
      Every autumn there are elections, who will the people vote for, of course for the deputies asking for migrants.
      1. +2
        29 July 2025 11: 03
        What people? Nobody goes to this show anymore.
        1. +1
          29 July 2025 11: 11
          Well, that's good, no one will boo the actors. And they will divide the money allocated for the performance between themselves.
          1. +2
            29 July 2025 11: 23
            Well, that's good, but the clouds are gathering over the burnt-out theater)
            1. +2
              30 July 2025 08: 55
              The theater clowns are not afraid, they will have time to escape before the fire. As well as those sitting in the VIP seats of the stalls. And how the gallery will get out through the boarded up emergency exits - no one cares.
    2. +2
      29 July 2025 16: 49
      Then Moscow risks losing good relations with its own people.

      And this is what they need, "good relations" with their own people? It was already written above that the authorities "live on another planet" and "puff out their cheeks" to create the illusion that everything is for their own people...
  3. +12
    29 July 2025 04: 32
    Why doesn't Russia ban entry for migrant families?
    Because the authorities don't give a damn!
    1. +8
      29 July 2025 04: 36
      Because the authorities don't give a damn!

      Why "everyone"? They don't give a damn about the profit margin.
    2. +11
      29 July 2025 06: 10
      But here it's quite the opposite. Try to get the Russian people really indignant, they will react very quickly.
      1. +5
        29 July 2025 13: 34
        Try to get the Russian people really outraged, they will react very quickly

        That's why the Russian National Guard exists with tanks and flamethrowers, against which ordinary people have little chance.
      2. +4
        29 July 2025 16: 53
        Try to make Russian people really outraged

        To prevent real outrage, there is the Russian Guard, laws to keep Russians in check...
  4. +3
    29 July 2025 04: 37
    Quote: Bogalex
    They don't give a damn about the profit margin.
    Alas, but that's exactly how it is!
  5. +14
    29 July 2025 04: 41
    Recently, by the way, the Ministry of Internal Affairs even released a video saying that some evil nationalists “are calling on Russians to fight illegal migration,” but you, they say, don’t give in to provocations!

    The author and commentators must understand that this is a decision at the highest level and soon for such articles they will send people to Kutuzov in the slammer. The task is to teach Russians not to resist the dominance of migrants, to force them to submit. This is preparation for a larger wave of migrants, but not from SA...
  6. +11
    29 July 2025 04: 49
    Quote: Puncher
    The task is to teach Russians not to resist the dominance of migrants,

    Are you ready not to resist when a migrant starts raping and killing your child???
    This issue already goes beyond the scope of threats of the Russian criminal code.
    Here the question is already of our basic survival... our children and our families... and threats of criminal punishment for resisting the violence of migrants may not have any effect on people. hi
    1. +2
      29 July 2025 05: 05
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Are you ready not to resist when a migrant starts raping and killing your child???

      No.
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Threats of criminal punishment for resisting migrant violence may not have any effect on people.

      They will work. Slaves bow before the whip.
      1. +11
        29 July 2025 05: 18
        Quote: Puncher
        They will work. Slaves bow before the whip.

        smile Well, you said "no"...that means criminal punishment for resisting violence against a migrant doesn't scare you.
        In general, I am observing a sharp increase in serious crimes committed by migrants in Russia.
        On July 4th in my city a migrant beat a 56 year old resident to death...then raped a 16 year old student on the street...caught by a video identification system.
        On July 20, in the Moscow region, an illegal migrant beat a disabled deaf-mute to death, the suspect was arrested... the disabled man's two children were left orphans.
        Who will answer for all this disgrace???
        1. +7
          29 July 2025 05: 31
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          This means that criminal punishment for resisting violence against a migrant does not frighten you.

          Personally, I am not. But the masses will resign themselves to it. They will be promised once again that they will sort it out, Bastrykina will be put under control, etc.
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          In general, I am observing a sharp increase in serious crimes committed by migrants in Russia.

          It has always been high. But if earlier there were groups of counteraction to migrants, the so-called "skinheads", who for their part committed crimes against migrants, then by now they have all been deactivated. That is, at present there is no organized counteraction to migrants, and spontaneous ones are easily suppressed by the authorities.
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Who will answer for all this disgrace???

          Most likely, no one. Migrants are not a spontaneous phenomenon, but an organized one. Those who organize it are of course not happy with the crimes committed, but are forced to put up with them as negative consequences. The task is not to bring in criminal migrants, but to force the local population to put up with the presence of migrants as such. To defeat nationalism.
          1. +5
            29 July 2025 05: 37
            Quote: Puncher
            Defeat nationalism.

            It is possible to defeat Nazism...nationalism is impossible.
            It is impossible to kill a person’s nationality and everything connected with it. what
            I, too, will not put up with the prevalence of crimes committed by migrants in Russia...and there are millions of people like me in the country.
            I hope that someday quantity will turn into quality. hi
            1. +1
              29 July 2025 05: 44
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              It is possible to defeat Nazism...nationalism is impossible.
              It is impossible to kill a person’s nationality and everything connected with it.

              Tell that to the Chinese, they are quite successful in turning the Uyghurs into Chinese.
              1. +6
                29 July 2025 05: 50
                Quote: Puncher
                Tell that to the Chinese, they are quite successful in turning the Uyghurs into Chinese.

                They don't do it...they just drive this problem deep, deep into the well.
                The Chinese have a well-developed digital concentration camp.
                Every Chinese person in quotes has a digital rating...his entire life is entered there from birth to comments on forums...accordingly, he receives status and opportunities in society.
                A Chinese with a red rating will never get the green light to power.
                In addition, the Chinese have camps for re-educating stubborn rebels...a very interesting topic.
                It's a pity that it is not covered much on VO hi.
                1. +1
                  29 July 2025 06: 09
                  Quote: The same LYOKHA
                  only drive this problem deep, deep into the well

                  Yes, there is such an opinion. But given the settlement of the XUAR by the Chinese, the disappearance of the Uyghurs as a nation is predetermined. Now in the XUAR a large-scale experiment in colonization is being carried out, which will be disseminated.
                  The Chinese have a well-developed digital concentration camp.

                  This is not a concentration camp, this is just cyber tyranny.
                2. 0
                  29 July 2025 15: 02
                  It's a pity that it is not covered much on VO

                  scare ahead of time?
    2. +2
      29 July 2025 05: 58
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      You are ready not to resist when the migrant starts raping

      So, here it is. And not the first time! Are you already resisting in some way? Or are you just waiting for the wave of migrant violence to reach you personally?
  7. +17
    29 July 2025 04: 54
    The state has long given up on its own population, look at the difference in order to get my own housing, I either have to take a mortgage at 21% or go to war, and a migrant either takes an Islamic mortgage (now probably 15-16%), or ask for help from the diaspora. If I start driving and shooting from a machine gun in the city, they will put me in jail, and a migrant, well, what's wrong with traditions, if a migrant kills me, nothing will happen, but if I kill a migrant, there will be such a fuss, we have long ago turned the wrong way, a course for the destruction of the country, with a beautiful picture of supposedly revival, getting up from our knees, ugh. And foreign policy is also strange, here the Ukrainians come out as Nazis, but when the Tajiks rape women and children, who are they? Why then are we fighting the former, but not the latter? Apparently, we also turned the wrong way, and the more you think, the more questions arise. In the meantime, everything is like in a joke, you watch the news, everything is bad in Europe, the migration is terrible, but here everything is fine, there are no migrants, the announcer is beautiful, Aslambekida Burkhurkhizanova.....
    1. +1
      29 July 2025 05: 00
      and a migrant, well, what's wrong with traditions, if a migrant kills me, nothing will happen

      It's not all that bad...in Yekaterinburg, two dancers on the road were jailed for 15 days...one was fined.
      There is still a reaction from the authorities...even if it is belated.
      1. +16
        29 July 2025 05: 26
        Yeah! I saw a video of some underage Abu bandits beating up two police officers, and they're afraid to even grab their guns because they're afraid. And they're right to be afraid, because their own bosses, who are getting money from the diaspora of these bandits, will eat them up with their shit.
        1. +4
          29 July 2025 06: 06
          Quote: g_ae
          they are even afraid to take hold of the holster, because they are afraid

          Organized crime is a terrible thing. Diasporas are like that. If you offend one, ten will come to your house after that.
          1. -1
            29 July 2025 10: 07
            Therefore, you need to arm yourself so that later these 10 will lie beautifully in front of your house.
        2. -4
          29 July 2025 06: 11
          Quote: g_ae
          they're even afraid to grab the holster

          Why grab a gun straight away?
          Every police officer comes with a democratizer in the form of a baton.
        3. +5
          29 July 2025 06: 34
          And I saw a video where service weapons were used against a Russian Afghan veteran, and there was no threat to the police's lives. Why is that? The police are already afraid of them. And they beat their own.
      2. +3
        29 July 2025 06: 14
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Not everything is so bad...in Yekaterinburg

        Not everything is so bad, unfortunately, in America.
        To get rid of immigrants, it was ordered to arrest 3 thousand per day. This way you can get rid of a million per year.
        But when there are 20 million of them and many new Raussians... Even Trump's standards are not very good.
        And you
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        15 dancers on the road were jailed for 2 days...one was fined.
        There are still reactions from the authorities...
        1. +1
          29 July 2025 06: 38
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          Not everything is so bad, unfortunately, in America.
          To get rid of immigrants, it was ordered to arrest 3 thousand per day. This way you can get rid of a million per year.

          Yeah, under Biden there were 60-70 people per month for deportation, and now there will be 000. A real sharp jump...
          And yes, between 4 and 6 would-be illegal immigrants enter the United States every day, according to State Department estimates.
          1. 0
            30 July 2025 06: 15
            Quote: your1970
            And yes, between 4 and 6 would-be illegal immigrants enter the United States every day, according to State Department estimates.

            Where do you get such numbers?????
            Have you ever listened to their officials' speeches or read official reports?
            It is very stupid to fill your head with your own disinformation regarding, let's say, non-friends.
            1. 0
              30 July 2025 07: 04
              Quote from tsvetahaki
              Quote: your1970
              And yes, between 4 and 6 would-be illegal immigrants enter the United States every day, according to State Department estimates.

              Where do you get such numbers?????
              Have you ever listened to their officials' speeches or read official reports?
              It is very stupid to fill your head with your own disinformation regarding, let's say, non-friends.

              It's from official State Department messages - for the slow-witted
              1. 0
                30 July 2025 19: 58
                Sorry, I regularly read and listen in the original language. Every day.
                So be careful!
              2. 0
                30 July 2025 20: 05
                https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats
                yes, and don't confuse WHERE illegals end up - according to statistics - in prison
    2. +1
      29 July 2025 15: 07
      and a migrant either has to take out an Islamic mortgage (now it’s probably 15-16%), or ask for help from the diaspora

      there everything is different: Islamic mortgages can be an order of magnitude lower, the diaspora can give money in installments, or they can contact local government bodies - and the migrant will get an apartment bypassing the queue and for free (relatively)...
      there are many schemes...
      and we have one scheme and the mortgage in it is not at 21%...
      I already wrote about a colleague's sister - the mortgage was less than 3% and that's a lot for Germany, but she gets some perks in return...
  8. +5
    29 July 2025 05: 16
    Now, apparently, they will be deported along with their parents.
    So long as such uncertain assumptions accompany such actions, you can be sure that nothing will move from the dead point in the near future. Because the authorities are equally divided on all these cases - like, the lokhtorat will still sit and pick their noses: maybe they will expel these... Or maybe not...
    The authorities only start itching when the people suddenly organize mini-riots against migrants and the same gypsies: here you immediately have law enforcement and even governors. You don't have to go far for examples.
    P.S. I'm not calling for anything, I'm just stating a fact. You don't have to come after me, I'm good. At least in some places.
  9. +6
    29 July 2025 05: 22
    Basically, the people and individual deputies are dealing with this problem. And Bastrykin too. Those who are most affected by this problem are dealing with it. "There is a renaissance of Islam in Russia" - Lavrov. I would say, an artificial renaissance. Those who lobby for migration remain in the shadows. On the surface, there is only the huge money received from bringing in newcomers.
    1. +1
      29 July 2025 05: 44
      And also Bastrykin
      Oh, I kind of doubt it. He's probably just hyping it up. If he did it, the results would be completely different, yeah.
      1. +1
        29 July 2025 06: 08
        Quote: DVostok-2
        And also Bastrykin
        Oh, I kind of doubt it. He's probably just hyping it up. If he did it, the results would be completely different, yeah.

        One man is not a warrior in the field!! Rather, they give him the opportunity to flounder, to prove to the same West that we have "democracy". And they send here not law-abiding migrants. You can send your criminals to work so that it will be quiet at home.
  10. +1
    29 July 2025 06: 09
    Quote: Stas157
    So, here it is. And not the first time! Are you already resisting in some way? Or are you just waiting for the wave of migrant violence to reach you personally?

    I resist by expressing my point of view wherever possible.
    But I must say frankly... I worked with migrants and personally communicated with them... most migrants are normal people and don’t get into trouble.
    Problems begin with those who do not respect and do not observe our laws and traditions.
    I personally encountered such people only once. hi
    I will not accuse all migrants in general of anything... each case of inappropriate behavior by a migrant requires a thorough investigation.
    1. 0
      29 July 2025 15: 13
      But I must say frankly... I worked with migrants and personally communicated with them... most migrants are normal people and don’t get into trouble.
      The problems start with those who

      here is a donkey, a donkey for a long time - works in the structures of power, "resolves issues" - they are the beneficiaries of the import of fellow tribesmen, they share with those who formalize and turn a blind eye to what is happening...
  11. +2
    29 July 2025 06: 11
    Quote: Puncher

    Yes, there is such an opinion. But given the settlement of the XUAR by the Chinese, the disappearance of the Uyghurs as a nation is predetermined.

    I wonder... how much time is left for the Uyghurs until complete assimilation?
    1. +3
      29 July 2025 09: 12
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I wonder... how much time is left for the Uyghurs until complete assimilation?

      According to Chinese statistics, the population of Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region increased by 2010% from 2020 to 18,5.
      But according to Chinese statistics, the birth rate in 2018 fell by 30% compared to 2017.
      The population of Xinjiang is growing due to the migration of Han people to Xinjiang, while the birth rate of Uyghurs is falling due to state-imposed contraception and sterilization.
      It is difficult to find any other statistical data, but the trend is clear. Young Uyghurs are being taken to the central regions of China, where they will completely dissolve, and the number of Uyghurs in the XUAR will fall due to the decline in birth rates and the settlement of the XUAR by Hans. In about 100 years, they will become a Chinese minority, and then disappear altogether as a nation. Any attempts to demonstrate national identity will be punished by being placed in a camp where they will be forcibly reforged into Chinese.
      A similar situation is in Tibet, where teaching in the native language is prohibited, the local population is diluted with Hans, which is of course more difficult due to the conditions. In 2003, the nomads were forcibly resettled to human anthills where they began to degrade, and then in 2017 they began to evict them back, although they had already lost their livestock and some skills, and the youth did not have them at all. That is, the Chinese are experimenting in all sorts of ways, but the goal is one, to remake the Tibetans and Uyghurs into Chinese, to deprive them of their national identity. They will eventually develop the right method and then...
      1. +1
        29 July 2025 15: 15
        They will eventually work out the right method and then...

        Sergeant (Gregory)
        And what about Russia?
        1. 0
          30 July 2025 03: 56
          Quote: Dedok
          And what about Russia?

          Not only Russia, but also Africa, Australia...
  12. +8
    29 July 2025 06: 16
    Why doesn't Russia ban entry for migrant families?

    What does Russia have to do with it? This "non-prohibition" has a specific last name(s) and position.
  13. +2
    29 July 2025 06: 29
    The migration problem will not be solved until it affects deputies, high-ranking officials and businessmen, when their children and grandchildren start to be raped by migrants, only then and not before they will start to itch, and before that they only see the dough that migrants bring them. Unfortunately, then it will be too late.
    1. +2
      29 July 2025 15: 17
      The migration problem will not be solved until it touches deputies, high-ranking officials and businessmen, when their children and grandchildren begin to be raped migrants only then and not before they will start to itch,

      rather, they will move there - to the West - it will not affect them...
  14. +17
    29 July 2025 06: 39
    We are ruled by carcasses torn away from the people! They hate us and try to replace us with black dirt, which is easier to rule. Our men are dying in the war that the rulers have gotten carried away with, and monkeys are walking boldly in the streets and doing whatever they want. And they have also hung posters everywhere saying go to war, to protect their well-groomed mugs, continue to die, the replacement is already here. Just 25 years ago I was an ardent patriot, I really stupidly believed in everything, now I understand those who said the opposite, now I am different
  15. fiv
    +6
    29 July 2025 06: 55
    Enough already with humanity and human rights. Flogging in the square. Castration or emasculation in public, if not impalement. For anyone, regardless.
    For officials who bring in crowds illegally, it is not abuse of office, but treason to the Motherland - they are the sovereign's people. And the sore subject is the police...
  16. +7
    29 July 2025 06: 57
    The migration policy of the country's leadership says only one thing: that the main enemy of Russia is the Russian official, and it does not matter what he is wearing - a suit, a uniform or a judicial robe.
    1. -2
      29 July 2025 10: 09
      Yeah, and this Official was re-elected in March 2024.
  17. +7
    29 July 2025 07: 24
    I think it would be worthwhile to temporarily close the border for guests from Central Asia, and first deal with those who are already here. And only then open the door. In addition, it is necessary to urgently introduce laws on religious clothing, similar to those in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, because many people flock here precisely because in Russia they do not shave beards and do not fine for hijabs/niqabs. And at the same time prohibit foreigners from any religious activity, like in Saudi Arabia, for example... And raise police salaries.
    1. 0
      29 July 2025 08: 07
      The police should first learn to work off the salary they currently have. Increasing police salaries has never brought positive results. A useless measure. They are the ones who organize trade in citizenship, documents and each other.
      When you read in the news that in a month, for example, 149 migrants have become fewer - they were sent away, you don't even want to laugh. Their number should decrease every week by several times, and not one by one. Proportionally to the number of those who arrived and multiplied here. Home, to the warmth of the motherland. And there to work, we will buy a rich harvest. A planned economy between countries.
      1. +6
        29 July 2025 08: 14
        Quote: Siberian
        The police should first learn to work off the salary they currently have. Increasing police salaries has never brought positive results. A useless measure. They are the ones who organize trade in citizenship, documents and each other.

        By the end of 2024, the shortage of personnel in the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs has grown to 174 thousand people - 18,9 percent of the staffing level. At the same time, back in May of last year, speaking in the Federation Council, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Vladimir Kolokoltsev cited a significantly lower figure - 152 thousand people. It is the catastrophic situation with personnel in the Russian police that will become one of the factors influencing the state of crime, including migrant crime in the country. Those who actually work on the streets are the first to quit: district police officers, operatives and PPS officers.
        Yes, there are fewer and fewer fools every year. Always under surveillance, always owing something, always obligated to someone and always guilty of something. Plus overtime for free, no normal days off or holidays.
      2. +7
        29 July 2025 09: 10
        Police officers and their families are not protected by the state at all. People understand perfectly well that if they use weapons according to the law, they and their families will be killed by diasporas, and the completely corrupt government will turn a blind eye to this.
        1. 0
          29 July 2025 09: 35
          We feel unprotected by anyone, including the police, even with written requests, only formal replies. In order to type out responses to everything in 8 hours of work instead of working on site, a couple of people are enough. Just change your address and full name. What difference does it make to me then how many of them are enough or not and with what salary they are doing all this. In my memory, no one has yet decided anything. Everyone curses medicine and the police. But in medicine, the output from requests is at least close to 50% - they will operate, examine, prescribe treatment, in the police the efficiency is 0,0%. If there is none at all, the majority of the population will not even notice.
          1. +4
            29 July 2025 09: 38
            And this is already a banal beginning of the collapse of the entire system. It simply stops working.
            1. +5
              29 July 2025 10: 11
              Quote: Vulpes
              And this is already a banal beginning of the collapse of the entire system. It simply stops working.

              The system of public administration is practically lost. The system of decision-making is lost, i.e. no one makes them, and even if someone does, these decisions are not implemented locally.
              Just remember the notorious texts of the messages of the leader of the Russian nation to his minions - "I ask you to do it, I suggest you think about it" and so on.
              Orders are not given like that, they still teach this at KMB. "Listen to my Command".
              Wild corruption, protectionism, dominance of organized crime diasporas, completely insolent heads of individual regions (and, of course, not Russian ones), a severe economic crisis, war.
              The worst thing is that Grandpa and his comrades have clung to power so tightly that you can't tear them away, even with flesh. Until '36, obviously, and most likely even longer.
              Look, he keeps extending the maximum terms of his brigade, its core, in power. The majority there are 70+.
              Vozhd - 72, Zolotov - 71, Patrushev - 74, Naryshkin - 70, Shoigu - 70, Bastrykin - 71, Bortnikov - 73, Lavrov - 75, etc.
              Of the relatively young ones, there are Dyumin - 52 (my supposed successor after 36) and Mishustin - 59
              Therefore, the insanity of those in power and the degradation of the country's governance system will continue to increase.
              While the leader was young and strong, his vertical helped pull the country out of disintegration. Now it is a heavy stone that is dragging the state down, but the team that built this system no longer wants, and cannot do otherwise.
              1. +2
                29 July 2025 10: 13
                I am more than sure that the gravediggers of this system will be the migrants they love so much. And they will bury all the lobbyists for the mass import of savages from Kashlak.
      3. 0
        29 July 2025 17: 09
        The police should first learn to earn the salary they currently have. Increasing police salaries has never brought positive results.

        I completely agree, the police and the Russian National Guard have been getting permanent salary increases since 2011, not to say that they have increased significantly, but noticeably, but there still are no solutions to many problems
        By the end of 2024, the shortage of personnel in the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs has grown to 174 thousand

        And what about the shortage of teachers and doctors, for example? They are also forced to constantly interact with migrants, even more often than the police. But their salaries are lower, they don't even have the courage to fight back and put them in their place, and it is almost impossible to prosecute for insulting a doctor or teacher, but it is still possible for insulting an employee.
        The system of public administration is practically lost. The system of decision-making is lost, i.e. no one makes them, and even if someone does, these decisions are not implemented locally.

        Because any more or less superior person imitates "you know who", and therefore all the successes are his, and where responsibility should be borne, they are passed on to those who are lower, and they are even lower, and as a result, there is no one responsible.
    2. +1
      29 July 2025 15: 21
      And raise police salaries.

      reduce the number of certificates, reports and statements per unit of time and ask about what is happening "on the ground"...
      i.e. remove the police bureaucracy and send them all to work "on the ground"...
      then you need to look at the salary...
  18. +5
    29 July 2025 07: 32
    When the moedzin or whatever the devil is on the tower calls to cut the infidels, then the end of all Russian peace and friendship and the majority of us will come! No one will stop them, they are everywhere in every yard, store, clinic. How many plans, caches, all sorts of nastiness they have already prepared. On their holidays, the streets around the mosques are filled with asses in the air. It's just scary where we are heading.
  19. +10
    29 July 2025 07: 33
    How do you feel about migrants from Central Asia?
    The same way they treat me!
    So you are an extremist and a Nazi, sir! (C)
    1. +1
      31 July 2025 06: 40
      I used to be for friendship between peoples. Now I am strongly against it, I work in medicine, they are the only ones - impudent, even women, demanding, boorish. After any contact with them (even with their children), I have a desire that tomorrow they would all be sent to their homeland forever, without distinction. And then we can start over: who to allow entry, who to pity, who to treat. Whoever can cope with this, will get a salary increase (either by rewarding them personally, creating a temporary structure or deciding in some other way)
      1. 0
        31 July 2025 10: 30
        My syndrome of friendship with the people ended after my service in Transcaucasia in 89-92. When I returned home for six months I came to my senses, as I saw the tanned sons of the mountains and dunes, I really wanted to grab them by the throat. But I learned an important lesson - before talking to them, you need to hit them in the insolent mug, or better yet, with a rifle butt.
  20. +5
    29 July 2025 07: 34
    The article is correct, so to speak "on the topic of the day". But there is one tiny but...
    Capitalism has been established in Russia since 1991, with all the ensuing consequences. The state does not need any order in the country (in this "cock's hell"), absolutely and unconditionally. All the officials, ministers, mayors, governors, oligarchs, the guarantor, the guarantor's friends, etc. are doing great. They live on another planet and no one will ever rape their children, let alone insult them with a word. And that means everything is great.
    And the fact that the Russian people don't like something, well, never mind, get used to it, in the end it's your problem. If it gets really bad, leave Russia for other countries, no one is holding anyone back.
    And most importantly: the state does not owe you anything!
  21. +5
    29 July 2025 08: 40
    Firstly, friendly peoples are the main peoples of the Russian Federation living on the territory of Russia. Apart from Russia, only a tiny percentage of them live in other countries, compared to Russia. And all sorts of philosophies about friendly peoples of Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan, this is also a "proposal" to "move" to the main peoples of Russia on their own land of the Russian state, with the most dangerous dogma for the state, that the fiction of a multipolar world
    which Russia is so eager to join, makes any Uzbekistan equal to Russia and if it wishes to flood Russia with Uzbeks, then Russia will agree to this, because otherwise Uzbekistan will not be considered a country of the multipolar world, and this is a disaster for today's government. By the way, the same act can be committed in the multipolar company by the African countries pushed, invited and already there by Russia. And let Russia only balk when the African countries, according to all sorts of BRICS, begin to flood Russia with blacks. Russia will immediately be accused of violating "multipolarity".
    Second. Are there open and accessible sources of voting by deputies in the State Duma in Russia when adopting or rejecting bills? Should all residents of Russia personally know all the names of those State Duma deputies who voted and how for this bill regarding the arrival of migrants with their families in Russia, which was ultimately rejected by the State Duma.
    I am more than sure that if such data on voting personally in the State Duma were publicly available to everyone, then for those who voted against this proposal, the convocation of this State Duma would be their last term of office as elected representatives of the people.
  22. +1
    29 July 2025 08: 59
    Now, apparently, they will be deported along with their parents.

    What do you mean "they will be deported together with their parents"? And sit for a while? Plus, break the bones and land on a tenner those who allowed these "those who are in violation of the law" to grovel here at all. Everyone. And the policemen, and officials, and profiteers from "responsible domestic business". Let there be dozens of them. Nothing for the sake of an example, it will be a lesson to the others.
    1. +6
      29 July 2025 10: 15
      Quote: Umptek
      And sit down for a while before going

      There is no criminal liability for children under 14. That is the law.
      And about deportation... Well, let's say they really are deported. They come to sunny Tojikistan, go to the local FMS, for 2 rams get a new passport with one letter of the surname changed, and a month later they come back. We have no border control, visas, biometrics, etc. Our country is a walk-through yard for anyone.
  23. +1
    29 July 2025 08: 59
    This is horror, beyond the pale. And they are simply expelled. That is, they will have the same descendants and possibly many. Apparently, many of them secretly hide their same inclinations for the time being. No owner would let such a thing into his house. They were clearly not brought in for the money.
  24. +6
    29 July 2025 09: 04
    The policy of ethnic substitution is absolutely purposeful and conscious. And unlike the tales about "Lenin's bombs planted under Russia", this "bomb" is absolutely real and will explode very soon. To conduct such a policy against the backdrop of a conflict with the West is an open and undisguised betrayal. And all this against the backdrop of the death of the indigenous population in the North-Eastern Military District.
  25. -2
    29 July 2025 09: 05
    It started similarly in Germany. And judging by what I hear from there, life has become significantly worse for Germans.
    Hmm... I just tried typing "teenagers raped a girl" into Yandex. The first 15 links are about one case with migrants. But then the links are about cases with Slavs and all are different. The case with migrants is just resonant. But nevertheless, there are similarly outrageous cases with Russians, Tatars, Bashkirs and Yakuts. It would be worthwhile to figure out why this happens at all, and not just blame it on newcomers.
    Furthermore, no matter how you look at it, migrants are useful to the economy now. I work in logistics and when the tragedy happened in Crocus, it became very difficult in the warehouses. Up to 60% of the staff were migrants and they did not show up for work. They were afraid. Of course, you can shout to hire Russians, but for some reason there were no Slavs there and there is no line. Although in the same Pyaterochka or Magnit, there is a healthy guy sitting behind the cash register. The difference in wages is definitely one and a half times. Maybe it is not about wages, but about the unwillingness to work and earn money of the working population. Once in a public bathhouse I talked with visiting Belarusians, they opened a business here. Even they formed the opinion that in Russia, most people simply do not want to work, even in comparison with Belarusians. And the Uzbek does not care, he works somehow. And in delivery, and at the warehouse, and at the construction site.
    As for the issues of faith, education and family. The US had a law on racial segregation. Do we really want to go down that path? It might be good, but it won't work in our multinational country. We just need to understand that we are a secular state, and not play the game of "insulting the feelings of believers and adherents of traditional values." There are many people in Asia who know thanks to whom they have medicine, railways, education. Yes, there was a Soviet program about national identity, which divided everyone by nationality and it took a wrong turn somewhere. But it's too early to cut off the ends. We need to put migrants (and many natives, for that matter) in strict limits. Wear a niqab - you're leaving Russia. Didn't serve in the army - you're leaving Russia. Violate the Criminal Code - you're going to cut down trees for a long time. Violate the Criminal Code - no citizenship or benefits.
    P.S. But this does not apply to gypsies.
    1. -3
      29 July 2025 23: 22
      Maybe it’s not about wages, but about the unwillingness of the working population to work and earn money.

      Or maybe the point is that the warehouse centers of Wildberries, Ozon and Yandex are under the control of Asian diasporas and Russians simply cannot get jobs there, and those who can are driven out by all the most vile means...
  26. +1
    29 July 2025 09: 17
    Look at the root.
    Who is coming to us, to migrate, from their own country?
    At best, "superfluous people" for whom there was simply no place in their homeland (remember well the 5-6 children in a family in Central Asia? Tradition, sir), or those for whom "the ground is burning under their feet."
    Now let's move on. Adults come to us with their own traditions, habits, culture, and way of life.
    They can't be changed anymore. And here's the question: what next? If they raise their children in our traditions, then everything is ok, they will become normal members of our society. If not, then we will get another "village", by the way, "non-local" culture is reproduced in enclaves.
    I think that the indicator is the language within the family, what language is spoken in everyday life. Russian - everything is ok, children absorb our culture. No - well, then we breed a second generation of migrants, what happens in this case, look at Europe, they are ahead of us in this matter by 10-15 years.
    Conclusion: if a child in a kindergarten or school speaks his own language, then this is a reason to invite parents to repeat language testing at least, and not as before, to commercials (by the way, who passed such a law on commercial testing?) in a normal way.
    And finally. Those who think that if a child does not speak Russian, then get out of school. Can you imagine the consequences? At 16, he will receive his passport and how will you deport him back to his grandparents? He has our birth certificate, he is registered here with us, but the fact that he actually lives in his village, which his parents set up here, is not reflected in the documents :(
  27. +6
    29 July 2025 09: 55
    In light of migration issues, I would like to share an excerpt from an interview with one of the Polish politicians, Dominik Tarczynski.
    Yes, Poland, yes, it is a Russophobic country, yes, they support our enemy... but I frankly like this point of migration policy:

    -How many refugees did Poland accept?
    - If we are talking about Muslim refugees, then zero.
    ...
    - They call you a racist and you are proud of it?
    - Let them call us whatever they want. Populist, nationalist, racist. I don't care. There won't be a single illegal Muslim in Poland. This is what people elected us for. This is what they expect from us. I care about the interests of my country and my family..
  28. +8
    29 July 2025 10: 23
    Quote: Stas157
    Diasporas are like that. If you offend one, ten will come to your house after.

    That's not the point here...
    According to the law, we do not have the right to give armed resistance to an attacker...violence is the prerogative of the state...and the state told us that it is protecting order, and not us, specific people.
    That's why some police officers told those who asked for protection from the rapist...come when they kill you.
    From a technical point of view, it is not difficult to take out a dozen frostbitten attackers... one burst of machine gun fire will be enough... you can meet them with a Molotov cocktail... but according to the law, this is a crime.
    So there are no options here...call the police and pray..."Maybe they'll come."
    Crocus clearly showed how the police will act in this case...
    5 illegal immigrants killed and burned 145 people for almost an hour with impunity...and where were the law enforcement officers at that moment is a big question.
  29. +7
    29 July 2025 10: 35
    Why doesn't Russia ban entry for migrant families?

    Well..
    The indigenous population of the Russian Federation is being replaced.
    Plus, Putin and his team still have a lot of work to do - 87%.
    The other day I watched a video of two traffic police officers being beaten by eight foreign specialists.
    Shame on the whole world.
    But if these eight people were Russian, they would have immediately opened fire to kill, but you can’t do that to migrants - Vladimir Abdualievich Vasiliev is a witness to this.
  30. +7
    29 July 2025 10: 42
    In the provinces, people are living out their days - there is little work, nowhere to get a job. And these migrants are brought in - "there is no one to work". I had a couple of "former Soviet citizens" from the sunny republics. As long as you keep them in an iron grip - they work, as soon as you let them go - they sit on your neck. Insolent and shameless. In the end, I fired them both. Now I perform their duties myself. It takes longer, but my head does not hurt about their insolence and screw-ups in work.
    1. +1
      29 July 2025 23: 13
      In the hinterland, people are living out their days - there is little work, nowhere to get a job. And these migrants are brought in - "there is no one to work".

      Migrants don’t go to work in the provinces; they increasingly go to Moscow, St. Petersburg and other large cities.
  31. +4
    29 July 2025 11: 26
    All to their historical homeland. And those who brought them here and, with a bribe, issued them life sentences with confiscation, are enemies and traitors.
  32. +1
    29 July 2025 11: 41
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: Stas157
    workers were urgently needed in the military-industrial complex in 2022 (to work three shifts), they raised the salary to a hundred... and immediately hired everyone! If salaries are not growing in the labor market, then this means that there are enough workers.

    You are forgetting a trivial nuance - the final cost of the military-industrial complex's products is of no interest to anyone, they will take it anyway. Especially considering the SVO

    But in agricultural sector, for example, it doesn't work like that anymore. For example, two Korean families of farmers stopped growing vegetables - migrant workers don't come, and ours demand a salary twice as much as it was. As a result, they now go to South Korea to work themselves, the workers are left without work, the land is empty, and there are fewer local vegetables on the market.

    Let there be barracks, bring in workers for the season (without families) and send them back after the season.
  33. +4
    29 July 2025 11: 42
    Now, apparently, they will be deported along with their parents.

    That's all?!
  34. +1
    29 July 2025 11: 51
    Quote: TermNachTER
    The issue of labor migration has long been resolved in the Gulf countries. All that is required is to take their best practices and apply them. A labor migrant has no rights. He lives outside the city in a special settlement, not a concentration camp of course, but quite close. He has a minimum of time to get from his place of work to the camp, if the police catch him at an inappropriate time - a fine, a repeat - a larger fine, a third time - deportation. In the event of a crime - first the maximum term, then deportation and a lifelong ban on entry. There is practically no crime among migrants.

    That's how it should be. No one is forcing anyone to live like that if they don't want to. Others will want to.
  35. +1
    29 July 2025 12: 17
    Thanks to the unchangeable and the company for our "happy" present
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  37. +2
    29 July 2025 12: 20
    if someone has forgotten and has illusions about their attitude towards Russians! their mentality cannot be changed (farm laborer - bai)
  38. +3
    29 July 2025 13: 03
    In Russia in 1991, profiteers forcibly established a feudal-capitalist system. How can you fight migrants if they were created by profiteers, the owners of the system.
  39. +2
    29 July 2025 13: 48
    Volodin: There is Putin, there is Russia
    More relevant: If there is Putin, there will be no Russia.
    The reset one will lead to a tsugunder.
  40. +2
    29 July 2025 14: 53
    What is this?! Then swearing! Who came up with this expression here in Russia for us Russians: Inciting ethnic hatred! Swearing! After all, it is the migrants themselves who incite this very hatred here, with their actions, their behavior. Why is it that the law always blames Russians for this, since the Soviet Union, foreigners have always been some kind of untouchable, punishment for them is like a slap on one intimate place, and only in our country. Then swearing.
  41. +2
    29 July 2025 16: 33
    In short, etc. - to the point: only a tightening of migration policy and a tightening of criminal liability of migrants before the Law will possibly save Russia from anarchy and disintegration... The economic "necessity" of "importing" such a number of migrants from Central Asia is a deception of the country's leadership and an attempt to protect the Russian aligarch, especially in the construction and unskilled labor sectors, from the costs of a decent salary in the country... Migration legislation must be tough, unambiguous and uncompromising, like in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, or the Philippines... As one wise and worthy politician of the East said: "It is better to have a hard chancre than a soft migration and national policy..."
  42. +5
    29 July 2025 16: 47
    "Thank you" very much to VVP and United Russia for the raped Russian girls! Faithful dear! To the obscurantist Moscowbad... Continue voting for the irreplaceable.
  43. 0
    29 July 2025 21: 52
    It's no news that a fish rots from the head.
  44. +1
    29 July 2025 23: 04
    And the girl's father should have grabbed these idiots by the legs and thrown them against the corner so that they wouldn't do it again...
  45. 0
    29 July 2025 23: 07
    Admins, are you deliberately muting comments? I was leaving for 15 minutes and didn't leave. Then what's the point of the site???
    1. 0
      29 July 2025 23: 13
      Yes, all sorts of glitches often happen here.
  46. +1
    29 July 2025 23: 24
    Why do we need these animals, even their children behave like animals.
    The first is to cleanse our top brass, the second is to send them to their second homeland along with the migrants.
  47. 0
    29 July 2025 23: 39
    Allow into Russia only with an employment contract, work and go home to your family.
  48. 0
    30 July 2025 01: 10
    RUSICH
    (Alexey)
    Meanwhile, the number of migrants in the Kaluga region has decreased by 2,5 times
    The number of foreign citizens in the region decreased from 60 thousand in 2021 to 25 thousand in 2024 - almost 2,5 times.
    So we can? We can or we don't want to...

    A resident of the Kaluga region, for 30 thousand rubles, registered a barely known migrant as the father of her daughter in her documents so that he could receive Russian citizenship, the united press service of the region's courts reports.
    More than 6,5 million foreigners were in the Russian Federation as of October 1, of which more than 740 thousand had no legal grounds for this; overall, the number of illegal immigrants has increased by almost 40% since the beginning of the year, said Russian Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev.
    "As of October 1, 2024, there were more than 6,5 million citizens of other countries in Russia, of which over 740 thousand had no legal grounds for staying. Since the beginning of the year, the number of these persons has increased by almost 40%," he said at a meeting of the department's board.
    https://ria.ru/20241030/migranty-1980942679.html?in=t
  49. 0
    30 July 2025 07: 04
    The fifth column is in action. It's just not clear, do they think that the Muslim wave will pass them by?? That they won't be slaughtered?
  50. 0
    30 July 2025 07: 45
    The rape of a four-year-old girl is not the kind of case where one wants to talk about kindness and human feelings - the guilty teenagers should be severely punished, as severely as possible, regardless of their minor age, since they committed this crime deliberately, and they had already attempted to rape, especially since they do not have Russian citizenship, which should be a silver dream for them, and not an opportunity to get into a chicken coop, and there is no need to talk about the membership of their countries in the EAEU, since this structure was created for the security of its members, and not vice versa!
  51. +1
    30 July 2025 09: 24
    Any labor migrants (I mean cheap labor), in any country in the world steal wages from the native workers. Why pay the locals normal wages, pay for social services, if you can bring in guest workers (by the way, not a Russian word) and pay less and not bother with social services. And throw the locals out on the street. This is a reduction in costs - capitalism is in the yard.
    Also, if anyone has forgotten, the residents of these sunny republics, from where "valuable specialists" flock to us, kicked the Russians out of their countries in the late 80s and early 90s. And now - hello! They are already here in our house and are setting their own rules.
    And finally. This madness, which we call a "turn to the East", flirting with a culture alien to the indigenous population of Russia, may turn into such bloodshed in the future, in comparison with which the current SVO will seem like a local conflict, like the Chechen ones.
  52. 0
    30 July 2025 11: 44
    You can write a lot, but the lack of domestic policy and the fight against corruption will do their job, and everything that can be blown up from within will be helped by thousands of NGOs across Russia.
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  54. 0
    30 July 2025 17: 46
    An attempt to increase the country's population by migrants of a different mentality, faith and traditions is a path to national disaster. Doesn't the government understand this?
  55. 0
    30 July 2025 18: 36
    I will express my opinion: In my opinion, given the current situation, confrontation with migrants is inevitable, but diasporas are allowed to form communities, etc., while Russians are prohibited. Who will be the winner? And there is no migration policy, there are actions of interested parties, some are making money on this, others are trying to have as many fellow tribesmen with children as possible and let them take root. Then we will largely repeat the fate of Russian families in the 90s in Central Asia, the Baltics will seem like sugar.
  56. 0
    30 July 2025 21: 16
    By the way, migrants from (now "friendly"?) Afghanistan, which, of course, is fighting together with Russia against the treacherous West, have already managed to "distinguish themselves". The other day, a migrant from Afghanistan almost stabbed a Russian guy to death on one of the streets of Omsk because he stood up for a girl. A visiting specialist from a "friendly" country started touching the girl in her intimate parts, and when the guy stood up for her, he stabbed him in the side. When the criminal was detained by police officers, he was shouting slogans such as "Afghanistan ba pesh! Glory to Afghanistan!"
    I don't think that the Taliban, which was literally just removed from our list of terrorist organizations, has already managed to send their "valuable specialists" to us. Most likely, it is precisely this criminal "refugee from the Taliban."
  57. 0
    30 July 2025 21: 21
    Quote: zsdk
    An attempt to increase the country's population by migrants of a different mentality, faith and traditions is a path to national disaster. Doesn't the government understand this?
    Everything is correct except for faith. For example, are the Nigerians, who at one time became famous for their fraud and drug trafficking, somehow close to you? They were from those Nigerians who were Christians.
  58. 0
    1 August 2025 05: 28
    What if we introduce concurrent liability for crimes committed by “unique specialists”?
    In essence, the "valuable specialist" is primarily indulged by: 1. the "socially responsible" employer who hires him to work on the territory of Russia; 2. the "responsible" law enforcement officer who allows the "valuable specialist" to cross the state border into the territory of Russia.
    When a “specialist” commits murder, rape, terrorist attack, robbery, etc., those persons who facilitated his “unique” activity on the territory of Russia must also be held accountable.
  59. 0
    2 August 2025 22: 29
    Migration is simply an incredibly tasty morsel for many. An incredible number of people feed on migrants, from departments to literate people who arrange rubber apartments. Only these are consequences.
    What is the main reason? Hey, business, have you nothing to say? Why can't you pay your citizens a decent wage? Because loans are expensive? Should I remind you about the 160% annual interest rate in the nineties? Those were really high interest rates on loans and collectors were much less talkative. And there were no migrants either.
    So just accept it as a given. No one will deal with migrants in particular, simply because it is profitable. Moreover, it is profitable locally. Locally, a businessman earns money by paying handouts and not providing social guarantees to the worker. Locally, they earn money by renting out rubber hostels and apartments. It is profitable for local authorities that you take out your anger on newcomers and do not notice other problems.
  60. +2
    3 August 2025 09: 28
    Let the friendship of peoples remain, but criminal offenses must be punished. Moreover, if these are not citizens of the Russian Federation, it should be considered an aggravating circumstance. If our boy and his peers had committed something like this, it would have been considered gang rape. The parents would have been jailed. And for these, deportation. Very softly. Like, let the kids fool around. I don't think that in their homeland this would have been forgiven.
  61. +1
    4 August 2025 13: 49
    The tolerasts who defend the alien criminals are sure that in their paradise towns and under guard they are reliably protected from any encroachments. And that their warm chairs will always be with them even in the caliphate/imamate, that the village-aul Abu-bandits will appreciate how these migrantophiles rooted for them. Vain hopes. The Asian mentality is such that the weak must be destroyed, and groveling before oneself is always considered weakness.
    So the migrantophiles may face an unenviable fate when the Abu-bandits rip their plump bodies out of their warm chairs and start trampling and beating them with something heavy. And no amount of shouting, like, I did it all for you, will help.
  62. +2
    4 August 2025 17: 30
    The borders need to be closed, what kind of a thoroughfare is this?
  63. +1
    7 August 2025 09: 34
    In all matters of supporting such movements in the state's immigration policy, we must move on to specifics. Name specific individuals, organizations, businessmen, government officials who care deeply about migrants. And then, oh miracle, we will understand what these figures were guided by. But something tells me that it will be the same as it was with the police departments involved in the legalization of migrants in Russia. Remember that by decree of our president, they dispersed and re-created departments for monitoring and issuing permits to migrants. Everything will be banal - it's business and big money.
  64. 0
    7 August 2025 18: 33
    Stop being shamefully silent about the fact that EVERYTHING in this country is happening because Putin wanted it that way. If you decided to lead, and not destroy, then you are responsible for everything. But here on VO liberals often write that it is not Putin who is bad, it is the people who are so slow-witted. And if they scold the Ministry of Internal Affairs for Russian nationalism, then it is necessary to create our own Russian squads, communities, societies as a counterweight to the corrupt Ministry of Internal Affairs. Salvation is in our own hands. We cannot expect mercy from the authorities, who will not be affected by this misfortune. These little animals understand only force and resistance, and of course, punishment.
  65. 0
    11 August 2025 12: 59
    In order to move anywhere in principle, we need to first introduce not just a visa entry, but a complete ban on entry from all these "stans" and "jans". At the same time, in the coming years, throw out forever the millions who have infiltrated and bought Russian citizenship. For those who are especially slow-witted - bring back penal servitude, following the example of the Russian Empire, we have many areas where millions of free labor hands would be useful.