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Venezuela: Maduro won, "gentleman" displeased

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On "BBC" 16 of April was handed over: the Venezuelan electoral commission announced Nicholas Maduro the winner of the presidential election, a quote, “despite a small lead over rival Enrique Capriles and calls for a recount.” A very strange statement, it should be noted. That is, if you have a “small gap”, then you have no right to be considered a winner? .. The election commission reported that Maduro supported 50,7% of voters, and Capriles - 49,1%. In the 2000 year, we recall, the gap between Bush and Gore was much smaller: 48,847% versus 48,838%.



It became known earlier that the US authorities and the Organization of American States called for independent verification of the election results. “BBC” writes that Enrique Capriles said that no one should declare victory until the recount takes place. Opposition supporters took to the streets of Caracas, and the police used tear gas against them.

Meanwhile, at a rally of supporters in Caracas, comrade Maduro announced that he had won a "just, legal and constitutional" victory. His words are quoted "Euronews": “Capriles, I told you, I said publicly that if I lose by just one vote, I will recognize the victory for you. But it did not happen. I won by a margin of 300 thousands of votes. This is the decision of the people. ”

Opposition candidate whose words are cited by Mikhail Vasilyev (KM.ru), nevertheless, it does not recognize its defeat: “I never agree with someone illegitimate. We are talking about more 3000 violations committed during the elections. And I officially declare: you, Nicolas Maduro, you and your government are the losers. ”

Supporters of Capriles want all the ballots to be recounted. Until then, the opposition to refuse to recognize the election results. Capriles has already written on Twitter that the government intends to distort the "will of the people."

As for the winning side, Comrade Maduro agrees with the requirement of recounting: “They want a recount of votes, we welcome it. I officially asked the CEC to recount. ” Here M. Vasilyev notes with some irony that, announcing the election results, the representative of the National Electoral Council of Venezuela declared the voting results "irreversible".

(By the way, Enrique Capriles Radonsky, who advocates for recalculation and calls his opponent "illegitimate," could recall recent events, namely December events. December December 17 Alexander Reutov, columnist "Kommersant", wrote that in the elections in the state of Miranda, the incumbent head of state, Enrique Capriles, and former vice-president of Venezuela, Elias Jaua, fought for the governor’s post. Mr. Capriles won with great difficulty: with an advantage of only 0,35% of votes.

Nevertheless, no one disputed the election results. Capriles again became governor).

On Monday evening, the opposition of Venezuela arranged “pot marches”, reports "Sight" with reference to ITAR-TASS. Supporters of the leader of the Block of Democratic Unity Capriles led processions, rattling metal dishes and launching firecrackers. The demonstration of the opposition paralyzed the movement of vehicles on several streets. Opponents of Maduro carried posters with the words "Forgery" and "Recount".

Tear gas in Caracas was really applied: the fact is that the opposition provoked clashes with the police. Also “Vzglyad” specifies that the delegation of international observers published a report, according to which the electoral process in Venezuela was held at a high level and there were no violations during the voting. Observers called on all political forces in Venezuela to recognize the official election results announced by the National Electoral Council.

Andrey Ivanov ("Free press") believes that the recount of votes in the presidential elections in Venezuela could be the beginning of a coup d'état: an orange scenario is ready for the country.

Under Hugo Chavez, the analyst recalls, the state has achieved great success in the social sphere. The number of children attending school increased by 6 million, and the number of students increased from 895 thousand in 2000 to 2,3 million in 2011, the number of doctors increased fourfold. Child mortality has halved; The problem of child malnutrition was also solved. Unemployment has decreased. Chavez almost defeated poverty; when it appeared middle layer. In terms of the human development index, Venezuela moved up from 83 in 2000 to 73 in 2011. These successes, recalls Ivanov, the country was able to achieve, thanks also to the nationalization of the oil fields, which were previously almost entirely owned by American companies.

Experts know that the Venezuelan elections have always been considered the world benchmark for fair and open voting. In the counting of votes, duplication was used, eliminating fraud. Talk about election fraud, the analyst believes, looks like the beginning of a “color” revolution.

Valery Korovin, director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise, interviewed by A. Ivanov, assumes that the United States has come to grips with the implementation of the coup in Venezuela:

“Elections have long been a tool for overthrowing unwanted US regimes. America’s allies may not worry at all about elections, they may not hold them at all. As it is, for example, make the monarchy of the Persian Gulf. Events in Venezuela must be viewed in a chain of a number of events. The previous link was the death of Hugo Chávez. In my opinion, it was eliminated during the American special operation. And not for that, the Americans removed Chavez, in order to lower his hands now and accept the continuation of his course. Capriles operates in the fairway of the United States. Recalculation is the trigger mechanism from which most color revolutions began in different parts of the world. We see a slight difference in voices in Venezuela. This indicates a fair fight. On the other hand, lets talk about small fraud. "


Korovin believes that the situation in Venezuela is "explosive." Americans are going to bring the situation to its logical conclusion. Challenging the result is part of the American plan. The recount should spill over into mass unrest, the expert says. If the calculation of peaceful protests fails, then the Americans will arrange an armed conflict. The militants will be brought in from Iraq and Libya, where they have ceased to find their use, the analyst draws a grim scenario. If Maduro does not hold power, Russia will lose Venezuela as a strategic partner: it will suffer losses related to investments in the oil industry, not to mention the collapse of the Kremlin’s foreign policy efforts in recent years.

Neil Nikandrov ("Fund of Strategic Culture") writes that the campaign headquarters Capriles, as expected, took advantage of the insignificance of the backlog from the winner.

“Along the social networks, along with allegations of fraud, appeals began to spread“ to resist attempts by chavista to steal the victory ”:“ Maduro lost the election! ”Maduro team condemned these statements as irresponsible:“ The opposition candidate should not aggravate the atmosphere fraught with confrontation ”. "To the followers of this gentleman (Capriles), we say:" Do not go crazy! "- said Jorge Rodriguez, head of the campaign headquarters of Maduro. “The automated voting system used in the elections in Venezuela is recognized worldwide as safe, reliable and transparent.” It is impossible to assign or withdraw votes in the voting process, the system has an integrated control system. ”


And the opposition took up "caserolazo", beating in pots and pans. Comrade Nikandrov writes that at the intersections, the barricades of automobile tires were puffed, and his faces were distorted by hatred on television screens. There were calls to rid the country of "Cuban agents" in the presidential palace, to purge the army, which "introduced the Cuban military."

And the thing is that the victory of Nicolas Maduro means the continuation of the course of Hugo Chávez on the development and deepening of the Bolivarian revolution. Maduro, like Chavez, is oriented towards socialism with a “Venezuelan face” - he stands for free competition of political forces in the country, but denies the neoliberal development model as a way to seize the country by transnational corporations.

However, many Venezuelans believe the promises of the neoliberal Capriles that with him everything will start to live even better, since he will use oil more correctly and stop “giving it to the allies of Chávez”. And they also believe that Capriles, too, will put an end to inflation, crime and corruption.

Now chavista celebrate victory - with fireworks in the sky. Nicolas Maduro receives congratulations. The first to congratulate him were the presidents of the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean.

The President of Russia also congratulated Comrade Maduro. The message from April 15 (11: 30 Moscow time) on the president’s website was it is said: “The head of the Russian state expressed confidence that under the leadership of Nicolas Maduro, Venezuela will continue to strengthen the strategic partnership with Russia, and also confirmed its readiness to further develop a constructive dialogue across the spectrum of bilateral and international issues in the interests of two countries and peoples.”

We note this: "in the interests of the two countries." The interests of any third country — for example, the United States, with its ideology of orange revolutions, which do not cover energy and geopolitical aspirations (by the way, the US gets 15% of oil from Venezuela), will not become part of the “constructive dialogue”. They are shining to fall into the category of the most unpleasant "international issues" with which the USA annoys the whole world.

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  1. domovoi
    domovoi April 17 2013 08: 49
    +18
    Well, it is clear ... Observers saw violations, the elections are undemocratic ... We need to count. Now a couple of thousand more will be brought up to the meeting. In the Americans, handsome men, the same scenario is being successfully implemented again and again. And what to want - if you print money - you rule the world, and as long as their monopoly remains - nothing will change. Anyone can be bought, as many "non-profit organizations" can sponsor ... Russia and China will drag along in the tail as long as they agree to accept paper instead of money.
    1. INTER
      INTER April 17 2013 09: 03
      +9
      Demo liberals are everywhere unhappy, whining!
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 April 17 2013 15: 19
        +4
        And Capriles, by the way, is a Jew.
        1. alex popov
          alex popov April 17 2013 19: 44
          +6
          Quote: Deniska999
          And Capriles, by the way, is a Jew.

          "And a little gay." ) By the way, the author is right. The United States, with its archaic electoral system and 10-year-old cheating, should be stupidly silent in a stars-striped rag and learn from the world of democracy.
    2. vadimus
      vadimus April 17 2013 09: 04
      +14
      The commandant’s business lives on!
    3. Homo
      Homo April 17 2013 10: 16
      +7
      domovoi, did you even read the article to the end? ... Also, “Sight” clarifies that the delegation of international observers released a report according to which the election process in Venezuela was at a high level and there were no violations during the voting. Observers called on all Venezuelan political forces to recognize the official election results announced by the National Electoral Council ...
      Hamsters write comments before reading the material to the end !!!
      1. kostiknet
        kostiknet April 17 2013 12: 30
        +7
        Quote: Homo
        Observers call on all Venezuelan political forces to recognize official election results

        And when did this prevent the side that lost the elections from "blissing" about election fraud? Opposition pro-Western candidate will be satisfied with ONLY his own victory, everything else is rigging and falsification! And this is happening not only in Venezuela, but also in all other countries where "US interests" are present. There will always be a "hero" who is ready to plunge his country into chaos for "foreign" money. Unfortunately, the script is not new. Good luck to Madura in his work and congratulations on VICTORY! (his first victory over the States)
        1. alex popov
          alex popov April 17 2013 19: 47
          +3
          Madura needs to squeeze the "oranzhroids" before the massive actions begin. A couple of hundred activist instigators in prison will cool the fervor of many "sympathizers." I wish Venezuela peace and prosperity. USA burn in hell.
  2. Tersky
    Tersky April 17 2013 08: 50
    +15
    Now the Chavists are celebrating victory - with fireworks in the sky. Nicolas Maduro receives congratulations. Well, thank God, we also join in the congratulations.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa April 17 2013 11: 06
      +3
      Quote: Tersky
      Chavists are now celebrating victory - salutes in the sky

      Unfortunately, the US is on a course of unrest: " "The scenario of what is happening in Venezuela is similar to the events of 2002, when the opposition forces tried to overthrow Hugo Chavez by force."In the capital of Venezuela, Caracas, after the presidential election, in which Nicholas Maduro, the successor to former President Hugo Chavez, won, mass unrest erupted. Supporters of the opposition took to the streets of the city with a demand to review the election results. Our compatriot, doctor of the clinic of the Central University of Venezuela, Julia Escalante (Dubrovskaya), told about what is now happening in Caracas to the project "Window to Russia": "The protesters are burning tires, throwing branches - they are trying with all their might to make sure that people cannot easily drive a car along the highway. They threw a burning tire right on the hood of the car for my colleague. The car miraculously did not catch fire. All this of course interferes, because you feel The situation is more than tense, a scenario similar to the events of 2002, when the opposition forces tried to forcefully oust Hugo Chávez from the presidency.
      There are groups of "thugs" who set the tone for the general behavior of the protesters. In general, watching everything that happens becomes uncomfortable, as you see that people are simply becoming uncontrollable. "" On April 17, the opposition are going to come to the building of the National Electoral Council, near which Maduro's supporters are stationed. Thus, they just want to push people against each other, and I would not be surprised if they start shooting. "- said Julia Escalante.
      Meanwhile, spokesman for the presidential administration Jay Carney, demanded to review the results of the vote.http: //www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/79122/
      At least seven people died as a result of clashes during opposition protests, dissatisfied with the official election results in Venezuela, said the prosecutor general of the country, Luis Ortega. This was reported by the Censor. NO with reference to the Russian service of the BBC. 130 protesters were arrested, triggered by the announcement of Nicolas Maduro as the winner of the presidential election.Ombudsman Hugo Chavez Maduro and opposition candidate Democrat Enrique Capriles exchanged allegations of provoking violence.Nicolas Maduro said he would not allow an opposition demonstration scheduled for Wednesday, April 17. http://censor.net.ua/news/239300/besporyadki_v_venesuele_semero_pogibshih_bolee_

      100_chelovek_arestovany
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 17 2013 08: 51
    +9
    According to the results of the elections, Russia will catch its breath, for our billions of dollars in military investments would have flown down the drain if Capriles Radonsky had won.
    1. Russian
      Russian April 17 2013 09: 01
      +12
      This is something the Americans do not like, that we have very friendly relations with Venezuela, and its policy is independent! I think they will try to destabilize the situation, that's for sure, without this, Americans will not be Americans.
      1. sibircat
        sibircat April 17 2013 10: 30
        0
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        I’ll try to try to destabilize the situation ...

        This is unambiguous. To stabilize the situation in the country is still very far. But not so long ago everyone was wondering why the United States was inactive. They understood that while Chavez is in power, people can’t be fooled.
        More and more I come to the conclusion that Chavez’s death was not accidental.
        And if the "American friends" feel that things are going to the defeat of their protégé, I would not be surprised if Capriles is found hanged in his own house.
        And they will blame the "Madura regime" for everything.
        By and large, the United States has one task - to put a puppet at the head of Venezuela, and any method is suitable for achieving this goal.
        1. Raphael_83
          Raphael_83 April 17 2013 19: 22
          +2
          And then, according to the scenario of Operation Just Cause, 1989, when the puppet does not fulfill what is required by the patrons or does it in his pocket ... No.
    2. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin April 17 2013 13: 08
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      Capriles Radonsky.

      I think you can rightly give this type of reduction, Enrique Kopro and everything immediately fall into place lol
      Active coprophilia is the desire to stain a partner, defecate on him, passive coprophilia is the desire to get a similar attitude towards oneself.
  4. albert
    albert April 17 2013 09: 06
    +10
    Never mind, in Venezuela they will quickly sort out the local "swamp". Maduro does not give an almond, but sets in motion tear gas. So everyone needs to do as soon as the supporters of "common people" move in some country.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 17 2013 09: 31
      +3
      and there they do it, quote: At the same time, I recommend watching YouTube videos from enlightened Europe, where local policemen disperse such unfortunate demonstrators. There they are beaten with clubs with meat with their feet, stamped on the head, poured ice water from fire hoses, and for attacking a policeman in the United States you can easily get a bullet in the forehead and no one will even regret you. Because in a civilized world, attacking a policeman is a taboo. Am I clearly expressing myself?

      http://www.specletter.com/obcshestvo/2013-04-11/kreativnyi-klass-eto-ja-a-vy-pro
      sto-ohrenevshii-ot-bezdelja-ofisnyi-plankton.html
    2. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich April 17 2013 10: 08
      +7
      a native of the common people, and he - Maduro - was remembered as a driver, not subject to attacks of tolerance, so everything is in the way: he will push nits out of necessity without a drop of doubt.
    3. Zax
      Zax April 17 2013 10: 45
      -4
      Quote: albert
      So everyone should do as soon as the supporters of "common people" move in some country.

      And then your Maduro will be taken to The Hague, haha.
  5. arkady149
    arkady149 April 17 2013 09: 12
    +5
    Respect to Oleg for the article. My deep conviction of Ashkenazi Capriles in power is the end of social justice in Venezuela, the experience of Russia in the 90s and not only of Russia is indicative. Costs one "theirs" tovarischu to get into power at the level of making property decisions - this is how very quickly national resources are taken into the hands of the "children of Zion".
  6. Orik
    Orik April 17 2013 09: 13
    +2
    Unfortunately, we know very little about Venisuela, I'm more interested in the question why Chavez, and now his heir Maduro, are winning with such a small margin! After all, Chavez has done so much for the poorest, the majority of whom ?! Something here does not add up and black and white consciousness is a bad helper. It turns out that the people are actually split and the result of the next election will be rather different. The question is why, who will say?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 17 2013 09: 30
      +11
      Quote: Orik
      I'm more interested in the question why Chavez, and now his heir Maduro are winning with such a small margin!


      Remember how the duped crowd demanded changes in the 90s? You can smack your head to anyone. A recent example in Libya is that overweight citizens have withdrawn from the gains of the revolution. Capriles-Radonski Father - oligarch, media mogul Enrique Capriles Garcia, representative of the Sephardic Jewish community from the island of Curacao; father's great-grandfather - the leader of the Jewish community of Curacao, Elias Capriles. Mother - Ashkenazi Jewish woman Monica Christina Radonski Bochenek, owner of the country's largest chain of private cinemas "Cinex"; grandmother (Lily Bochenek-Radonska) and maternal grandfather (rich film producer, founder of the Venezuelan film company "Circuito Radonski" Andrzej / Andres Radonski) - Polish Jews; great-grandmother and great-grandfather on the maternal side, who came from the Western Belarusian town of Radun,

      What is incomprehensible, the bourgeoisie tried to come to power, as always fooling the poor people with democratic freedoms,
  7. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 17 2013 09: 22
    +4
    well, what do the Venezuelan hamsters want with pots? so that Maduro would leave? and those who voted for Maduro do not want to go further. what? no, well, here the votes are almost the same, but in favor of Maduro. but Zyuganov, who scored 17 %, he disagrees with what ??? even according to all polls, even the State Department "golos" Putin still gained more than 50%. What in general can you have a conversation with disgruntled hamsters ??? request
    Of course, the United States is unhappy that Maduro won because they bet on Kapriles. And when Sakashvili illegally took power by means of a coup, why the United States was silent ??? There were no elections in Georgia, and silence ... I’m interested, those who voted for Kapriles Do they think that salaries will increase by 2-5 times EVERYONE will grow up? Where will Kapriles take money from? And what does his electorate require? Maduro leave? Why doesn’t he need improvements in life? So the Kapriles’s electorate is happy with life, if it doesn’t require it, but why then they need it? fool

    here to read the sober mind, those who are fighting against Putin. quote: You are confusing something. It was in the 90s that an engineer with two higher educations could be left without work. Now this is not true. And, please, do not speculate here ephemeral old women. My mom has exactly the same old retired woman, so I'm in the subject. Pensions in Russia are indexed regularly, and so far no one has died of hunger.
    Also on the topic: an interview with State Duma deputy Sergei Zheleznyak - a man whose image in Runet has also been established: “I don’t understand where you got the word“ censor ”and why you attribute it to me” (NEXT)
    It’s hard to talk about rallies. More precisely, only about one: on Bolotnaya. Strictly speaking, even my friends, adults and smart people were there. Tired, they say, from Putin, we want a different person on the TV. But they can be forgiven: they do not understand politics at all and did not immediately understand that big politics does not lie in the plane of aesthetics. Putin does not take the presidency to please someone. The president of such a huge and complex country should not do anything in order to please anyone. He has completely different tasks.

    http://www.specletter.com/obcshestvo/2013-04-11/kreativnyi-klass-eto-ja-a-vy-pro
    sto-ohrenevshii-ot-bezdelja-ofisnyi-plankton.html
  8. wulf66
    wulf66 April 17 2013 09: 22
    +2
    The Americans completely turned off fantasy and imagination. One and the same scenario is cut from time to time. But once again the main drawback of the elections as such creeps out. Democracy and liberalism will never end in anything good.
  9. kontrol
    kontrol April 17 2013 09: 24
    +1
    when already this prop n dosovskoy orange lads calm down. you must be able to adequately lose
  10. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 17 2013 09: 32
    +2
    Nah, the States go all-in. Maduro must toughly crush the rebellion in painsome ways (interestingly, in Venezuela there are places where hellish labor of people is needed). I was one more a little surprised. Are the states going to import militants to destabilize from Iraq and Libya ??? How will they pay? Well, in general, Russia needs to be very attentive to Venezuela, support in which case!
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 17 2013 10: 14
      0
      Quote: JonnyT
      Are the states going to import militants to destabilize from Iraq and Libya ???

      it’s lying. They didn’t bring snipers to rallies in Russia, although they could, but they’d vryatli something would have happened. And if it did, then what? Who will go to the rally if he thinks that they will kill me? Who wants to? Although the abnormal will go ... yes, and the rallies will be dispersed instantly, they will simply block the territory, or they will march for 101 km.
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior April 17 2013 15: 37
      +1
      Quote: JonnyT
      Nah, the States go all-in. Maduro must be tough in crush to crush the rebellion! (

      I think so. the Statesmen strained with the bucks right now, if they don’t take it abruptly, they will back off, at least temporarily.
      KS-23 with plastic and ceramic shot to help comrade Maduro wink
  11. Belogor
    Belogor April 17 2013 09: 48
    +3
    So all sorts of "springs" begin, the losing candidate begins to muddy the waters, knowing that he will be supported by "common people" with money and everyone else.
    Such offended should be immediately "finished off" then it is too late
  12. sibircat
    sibircat April 17 2013 09: 58
    +2
    many Venezuelans believe the promises of the neoliberal Capriles that with him everyone will begin to live even better,

    To paraphrase a saying:
    With good promises, the road to hell is paved.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 17 2013 10: 21
      +2
      Quote: sibircat
      With good promises, the road to hell is paved.


      Is that exactly what the capitalist might be interested in? The fundamental problems of nature and man do not interest them. A person, as such, does not interest him; he is interested in the profit that an employee can bring to him. For him, the main thing is profit. And not even just profit, but an increase in profit. Only one way out - masquerading as a benefactor to fool the voters
      1. sibircat
        sibircat April 17 2013 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        The fundamental problems of nature and man do not interest them.
        Let me object.
        Huge amounts of money are spent on the study of the human psyche and sociological research. And they are playing, at present, on the most base instincts of man.
        Hence: violent "educational reforms", brainwashing in the media, substitution of basic concepts in the minds of people.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak April 17 2013 11: 45
          +3
          Quote: sibircat
          Huge amounts of money are spent on the study of the human psyche and sociological research.


          Thank you Dmitry, but I dare to notice the study of the human psyche is not a concern for a person, they study it as follows from your post for subsequent profit-making, as I wrote. respectfully
          1. Raphael_83
            Raphael_83 April 17 2013 19: 30
            0
            Yeah. For three days in our bank, Muscovites conduct psychological trainings for GCMs and retail managers on the topic: "How to work with objections and doubts of a client in such a way that he remains in debt to us by the end of his life" ... At the same time, clients are like people - with their aspirations, dreams, worries and problems - for the owners do not exist: they are just an amorphous impersonal mass of consumers who can (and should!) be "milked".
  13. Flooding
    Flooding April 17 2013 10: 03
    +1
    According to the BBC on April 16, the Venezuelan election committee declared Nicolas Maduro the winner of the presidential election, a quote, "despite a small gap from the rival - Enrique Capriles - and calls for a recount."

    How all this is familiar. Old hackneyed script by American advisers. Exactly according to this scheme, and in Moldova in 2009. Communists were removed from power. Demonstrations followed by pogroms, loud statements about numerous violations, re-elections and ... the logical result - American proteges are in power.
    Hold on comrades, don't give up!
  14. wax
    wax April 17 2013 10: 06
    0
    Maduro must take the oath of the President without delay, which will stabilize the situation of legitimate authority by legal means.
  15. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 17 2013 10: 06
    +15
    The continents are different, the scenario is one.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 17 2013 10: 17
      +8
      look how many similarities!

  16. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 17 2013 10: 07
    +1
    And why does everyone not like democracy so much? Yes, the Americans completely distorted the very principle of democracy, and turned things around so that they began to hold an equal sign between Democracy = USA, which is not only wrong, but also makes countries that are honestly trying to go this way to doubt its correctness, I remind you that democracy is the power of the majority, and so to please both yours and ours this is probably anarchy.
    Although, in order to understand the actions of Americans, one must look at the situation through the eyes of the US administration. And what do we see? There is a country that is bursting with oil reserves, the country does not currently have a leader, elections have recently taken place in the country where the wrong people won, there is a pro-American candidate who supports the N-part of the population and who does not admit defeat ....
    What we have, and we have overwhelming military superiority, complete economic dominance in the region (and in the world, which is a sin), the CIA, the media, a bunch of lured human rights defenders, oil campaigns that stand and pull the sleeve, they say Uncle Barack kupiiiiiiii Venisuelu well, kupiiiiiiiiii, and the realization that you will not be anything for any adventure. Do not say that you, being in your right mind, did not take the chance that floats into your own hands.
    1. Homo
      Homo April 17 2013 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      ... I remind you that democracy is the power of the majority, and so to please both yours and ours this is probably anarchy.

      A bit about democracy:
      TSB - Democracy (Greek: demokratía, literally - democracy, from demos - people and krátos - power), a form of political organization of society based on the recognition of the people as a source of power, on their right to participate in solving public affairs and empowering citizens with a fairly wide range rights and freedoms ...
      Wiki - Democracy (dr. Greek δημοκρατία - “power of the people”, from δῆμος - “people” and κράτος - “power”) - a political regime based on the method of collective decision-making with equal impact of participants on the outcome of the process / or at its essential stages ...
      No need to freely interpret the source!
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil April 17 2013 10: 39
        0
        I am only saying that the minority must agree with the majority opinion, even if the translation is one vote.
      2. Ulysses
        Ulysses April 17 2013 10: 52
        +2
        Wiki - Democracy (dr. Greek δημοκρατία - “power of the people”, from δῆμος - “people” and κράτος - “power”) - a political regime based on the method of collective decision-making with equal impact of participants on the outcome of the process / or at its essential stages ...


        It was good for the ancient Greeks to argue about democracy when each of them had several slaves (or could have been on completely legitimate grounds). what
    2. Flooding
      Flooding April 17 2013 11: 11
      0
      Quote: Standard Oil
      And why does everyone not like democracy so much? Yes, Americans have distorted the very principle of democracy to the limit

      Do you oppose yourself? Yes, and why love her by and large?
      Where is this American democracy (mind you, there is no longer democracy as such in its absolute sense, it is painted in colors, mainly in the colors of the American flag) cared for that very demos? Ah, she cared, but only about her?
      Well, what for us such a democracy that does not bring anything good beyond the borders of the United States?
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil April 17 2013 13: 09
        +2
        I’m talking about the fact that the United States has replaced the very concept of democracy with what they like — and this is democracy, and what they don’t like — it’s not democracy, in short, for some reason, it is the United States that determines the democratic nature of the society that gave them to this right?
        1. Flooding
          Flooding April 17 2013 14: 36
          0
          Quote: Standard Oil
          I say that the United States has replaced the very concept of democracy

          Then name at least one example in the history of mankind of the implementation of the democratic model in its true understanding. Not? Then maybe we do not understand it that way, this democracy? Maybe what we have is her real face?
          1. atalef
            atalef April 17 2013 17: 25
            -2
            Quote: Flood
            Then name at least one example in the history of mankind of the implementation of the democratic model in its true understanding.

            And what do you mean by true understanding?
            1. Flooding
              Flooding April 18 2013 09: 16
              0
              Quote: atalef
              And what do you mean by true understanding?

              What Standard Oil puts into this concept is the power of the people.
  17. Suhov
    Suhov April 17 2013 10: 17
    0
    Venezuela: Maduro won, "gentleman" displeased

    Gentlemen, they are:
  18. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 17 2013 10: 18
    +13
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    The continents are different, the scenario is one.

    More from the same opera
  19. fenix57
    fenix57 April 17 2013 10: 30
    +1
    Quote: JonnyT
    Nah, the States go all-in. Maduro must toughly suppress the rebellion

    Yes amers just so all this will not leave. Too much oil in Venezuela and in the event of the seizure of power by a pro-American candidate, the US will be able to influence the price.
    News:Riots in Venezuela. The situation in Venezuela does not look threatening, but it is heating up. On the one hand, the actions of the authorities, which do not allow to rock the situation and harshly suppress riots, are completely justified. On the other hand, the results of the elections, when the country split exactly in two, are obvious - no one has a majority. Already therefore it is necessary to seek a compromise. Even at the cost of abandoning certain principles. Civil world is more expensive. see military materials.
    West is trying to capture Venezuela according to the Libyan scenario
  20. krez-74
    krez-74 April 17 2013 10: 33
    +1
    There will be a persistent attempt to destabilize the situation in Venezuela! The United States now needs to control Latin America, both economically and politically and purely in a raw material way. Even the change of the Pope to a native of Latin America fits into this context!
  21. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO April 17 2013 10: 38
    +1
    As they say, it is not enough to conquer the throne, it still needs to be held. You look in the news to Venezuela and catch yourself thinking that you have already seen this in Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan and Georgia, and in Russia, the poor attempt of Anal.
    Commander Maduro is a fine fellow, but he is a hard worker and half of the country is the same after him, again the army and the police are on his side. Disperse these "saucepans" correctly and tough, and the ringleaders must be in the punishment cell.
    By the way, a rally with pots is not new, if I don’t confuse it in February 1917, it was like that in Russia too.
  22. redwar6
    redwar6 April 17 2013 10: 41
    +7
    Viva Comandante, FIG was there, people believed him, and the Americans are trying to put their man there, and then according to the Libyan scenario ..
  23. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov April 17 2013 11: 08
    +9
    Maduro urgently needs to remove Capriles from the governors for organizing mass riots with human casualties ... We urgently need to "tighten the screws" regarding American influence and develop relations with Russia on all fronts and strengthen national security ... Otherwise, he will also get cancer ....
    1. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 April 17 2013 19: 36
      0
      Or radioactive polonium will accidentally be poisoned ... The CIA will launch a "Cuban version" with thallium salts on the extremist in order to deprive Maduro of his hair and mustache ...
    2. knn54
      knn54 April 17 2013 20: 35
      +1
      Gorchakov. Maduro urgently needs to remove Capriles from the governors for organizing riots with casualties ...
      Members of the Miranda State Parliament issued an ultimatum to Capriles. In a statement released on Tuesday, lawmakers indicated that the politician should return to his direct duties as governor within 24 hours. "Capriles must resume his work as governor, otherwise this position will be declared vacant," said Parliament Speaker Miranda Aurora Morales, citing the provisions of the country's law.
      She pointed out that Kapriles officially received permission to be absent from work only until April 14 - until the end of the presidential election in the country. However, after the announcement of their results, which confirmed the victory of Nicolas Maduro, Capriles never returned to his workplace. Thus, the opposition leader can now lose his gubernatorial post.
  24. stroporez
    stroporez April 17 2013 12: 06
    +2
    PPTs !!!!!!!!!!! ............. what a stinking devil people look back at what the "West" will say !!!!!!!!! ??? ?????????????????? this is their HOUSE, which means that only THEM can decide. And let the "west" let each other into the farting vein use. The Americans did not let anyone close to their sites. and this is correct --- to figure it out for themselves, but other peoples should have the same right - to send all observers ON .........
  25. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg April 17 2013 12: 49
    +2
    I hope Maduro has enough stiffness to transplant, and some people and count all this amrezky opposition ...
    1. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer April 17 2013 12: 59
      -3
      How do you transplant almost 50% of the Venezuelan population? This will lead to a war in which the Chavists lose.
      1. stroporez
        stroporez April 18 2013 09: 17
        0
        and why lose ???????? I’m sure that just pro-American puppies will wash their blood ......
    2. atalef
      atalef April 17 2013 17: 24
      -3
      Quote: Geisenberg
      I hope Maduro has enough stiffness to transplant, and some people and count all this amrezky opposition ..

      Stakes are not enough for half the population. laughing
      1. hrych
        hrych April 17 2013 22: 13
        +3
        Leaders sit on a stake, the rest go home.
  26. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer April 17 2013 12: 57
    -1
    Despite huge investments in social programs, supporters of Chavez won the limit. Chavez did to this result + 10% due to his charisma. So something chavisty urgently needs to be changed. I wonder why half of the population is not satisfied with the policy of the Chavists?
    1. sibircat
      sibircat April 17 2013 14: 56
      +1
      Quote: Drosselmeyer
      I wonder why half of the population is not satisfied with the policy of the Chavists?

      Sneakers have not yet eaten.
      It seems that events can continue to unfold in the Ukrainian orange scenario.
  27. atalef
    atalef April 17 2013 13: 16
    -2
    in any situation, one and the same tendency is visible (under Chavez it was clearly indicated) the loss of support by the people of his ideas. Chavez won with the smallest margin, Maduro in general is scanty. There will not be peace, the people are split. 50% of the population cannot be attributed to US mercenaries. Maduro started poorly. there are victims. I think if there is a wife of the Prosecutor General of Venezuela, everything will slide very quickly to the dictatorship.
    Quote: Drosselmeyer
    I wonder why half of the population is not satisfied with the policy of the Chavists?

    Because with the largest oil reserves in the world, achievements are scanty, and crime is one of the largest in the world. I want a people of peace.
  28. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra April 17 2013 14: 01
    +2
    Madura urgently needs to deal with dissenters.
  29. atalef
    atalef April 17 2013 14: 08
    -5
    Quote: Mangust_ali
    Madura urgently needs to deal with dissenters.

    transplant half the population?
    And why not openly count the votes? And he would shut his mouth to unbelievers and cease subsequent insenuations. Apparently, not everything is so clean if you immediately tighten the nuts for your weapons and promises
    And against whom? of the population, which should sort of go in rows and support the ideas of Chavez / Maduro laughing
    1. sibircat
      sibircat April 17 2013 15: 08
      +5
      Quote: atalef
      And why not openly count the votes?

      To begin the recount - de facto recognize the election fraud.
      Do not do this in any case.
      1. vilenich
        vilenich April 17 2013 16: 31
        +4
        Quote: sibircat
        Do not do this in any case.

        Definitely impossible! All the same, Capriles does not recognize the results, just like Tymoshenko in Ukraine, who did not recognize her gain in the 2010 elections.
      2. atalef
        atalef April 17 2013 17: 23
        -2
        Quote: sibircat
        To begin the recount - de facto recognize the election fraud.
        Do not do this in any case.

        And do not count - admit that they were sucking.
        If you count, in the presence of an independent commission, the question does not arise. Maduro, after all, is confident in his victory, which is then something to be afraid of. If only he won at least by an advantage in 5%, but here ... It doesn’t smell beautiful.
    2. Ram chandra
      Ram chandra April 18 2013 14: 28
      0
      You understand that here not only the population of Venezuela "votes" and "chooses". Each side is supported by one or another third party. And in case of a loss, this third party will try by all means to declare the vote incorrect and dishonest.
  30. Yankuz
    Yankuz April 17 2013 16: 20
    0
    Maduro won, but unconvincing! And it is still unknown how it will all end. Consider half the country they want America to breathe in the navel and look into the mouth. So what is on the agenda, what about the Orange Revolution?
  31. darksoul
    darksoul April 17 2013 17: 46
    +1
    Moduro won but why the gap with Kaprilis is less than 2%, before that they were in a good minority ... what has changed? washington hand
  32. Steering wheel
    Steering wheel April 17 2013 18: 04
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    And what do you mean by true understanding?

    This is when Jews plow the land and work in factories, and do not create financial mafia banking structures in order to pressure and control the governments of countries and siphon off financial and monetary resources. In those countries where this does not work out, we see Jewish revolutionaries - the last good example is Venezuela - in which, as always, the candidate from the dermocracy is a "purely accidental" Jew
    1. atalef
      atalef April 17 2013 18: 16
      -3
      Quote: Steering
      This is when the Jews plow the land and work in factories

      Well then, I’m calm, we still have democracy
      Quote: Steering
      Explain how it is again purely by chance in all of Venezuela, where Jews are an insignificant zero tenths of a percent of the population, the main candidate - revolutionary - dermocrat - liberal - Jew

      You do not understand this Wheel, we are simply smarter than people like you. laughing
      That’s nothing. I’ll come to Kiev on July 22 (after St. Petersburg), I’ll see how you’re raising Ukraine
  33. Steering wheel
    Steering wheel April 17 2013 18: 11
    +2
    Well, the local Zionist fascists explain how it is again again purely by chance in all of Venezuela where Jews are an insignificant zero tenths of a percent of the population, the main candidate - revolutionary - dermocrat - liberal - Jew
    http://www.jewish.ru/theme/world/2012/02/news994304781.php
    1. Vtel
      Vtel April 17 2013 21: 27
      +5
      And this is like Trotsky in 1917, aka Goga, aka Leiba Davidovich Bronstein came from America, but then you know. We also became a big man with a big Mauser. Thank God, Comrade Stalin explained to him that this is impossible - ... in the elite ranks.
      1. Kashaverskiy
        Kashaverskiy April 18 2013 00: 27
        +2
        http://warfiles.ru/show-26991-kompaniya-noveske-vypustila-specialnyy-shturmovoy-

        molotok.html
        Noveske launches special assault hammer
        Modern followers of Mercader’s feat greet the modern Trotskyists and remind them of how their spiritual leader ended.
        Trotsky’s modern followers will not calm down. There is a special offer for them (more precisely, for the modern followers of Mercader - but modern Trotskyists will also be interested in getting to know what they have to meet with)). Alpenstock is no longer fashionable. Give me a tactical hammer! The time of judgment will come, not all time evil triumph and gloat.
  34. cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola April 17 2013 20: 33
    +1
    Quote: Vadivak
    You can make a fool of anyone

    And unfortunately, there are plenty of examples of this! With the "heights" reached by the American propaganda, Dr. Goebels nervously smokes on the sidelines!
    After all, the Americans achieved, who fought the most brutally and destroyed the Japanese with might and main, that now the Japanese (at least some part) sincerely believe that in the Second World War, the main enemy for them was the Soviet Union, and even bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on they were thrown by the "damned" Russians! Here, this is PR, this is in American style!
    Well, and the moaning of the loser Capriles, all this is painfully familiar and recognizable. All this we, as it were, went through both in Ukraine and in Georgia, and in our country, too, the losers do not want to admit their defeat, hence the cries about "fair elections". Here, somehow, the approaches to counting the votes of our "great teachers" do not quite fit -
    the gap between Bush and Gore was much smaller: 48,847% versus 48,838%.

    Yes, I remember in the last election, for Obama voted in some places more 100% voters! But, you see, this is a "great achievement" of American democracy! ...
    1. atalef
      atalef April 17 2013 20: 43
      -1
      Quote: cool.ya-nikola
      Quote: Vadivak
      You can make a fool of anyone

      Absolutely for sure, and Chavez is the same.
      The people perfectly understood about all his chatter and the constant decrease in the percentage of people who voted for this evidence.
      Maduro’s result, against the background of Chávez’s death (which should have added votes to him), an administrative resource and a TV completely controlled by the City of State, gave such an insignificant advantage that anyone would doubt it.
      You can talk about the bright path of Venezuela and Chavez - a lamp and a favorite of the people. Only half of Venezuelans disagree with this.
      1. Kir
        Kir April 17 2013 21: 42
        +2
        Forgive me, but I will be extremely frank, why is it that when “yours” win, then everything is democratic and legal, when strangers immediately stink up to heaven? Before making a claim, it may be worthwhile to declare a mandate where it says that you are the Mind, Honor And the Conscience of all mankind with the personal signature of the Almighty, or at least a facsimile, but no, be kind to the general turn !!!
        1. atalef
          atalef April 18 2013 07: 46
          +1
          Quote: Kir
          Forgive me, but I will be extremely frank, why is it that when “yours” win, then everything is democratic and legal, when strangers immediately stink up to heaven?

          And I do not claim that Maduro won illegally. I say that half of Venezuela (which the inhabitants of the site for some reason call American mercenaries) is against.
          1. Kir
            Kir April 18 2013 09: 02
            0
            Thank you understand
            For the most part, I wouldn’t call them hires, but the fact that the top and near it will work it out for sure, plus, unfortunately or minus, you should never forget that about a quarter of the population are an unstable element anytime, anywhere, it remains only to understand who is this part of, although judging by the pan and procession and another sign, most of them are unstable now with apposition.
  35. Vtel
    Vtel April 17 2013 21: 20
    +2
    Capriles grandmas from the SSR did not work! Now it’s climbing over.
  36. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO April 17 2013 23: 02
    +2
    Quote: Kir
    Forgive me, but I will be extremely frank, why is it that when “yours” win, then everything is democratic and legal, when strangers immediately stink up to heaven?

    Typical double standards for mattress toppers.
    -If you are a handshake, then, for example, you can play like Latvia, at least in the SS.
    -But if you are Putin, Lukashenko or Moduro and would like the US and the EU to play with them on a bubble, then you have no democracies.
  37. fenix57
    fenix57 April 17 2013 23: 33
    0
    Quote: Drosselmeyer
    How do you transplant almost 50% of the Venezuelan population? This will lead to a war in which the Chavists lose.

    Russia in Venezuela, like the amers, has enough interests. Maybe they will help ... hi
  38. dark_65
    dark_65 April 18 2013 10: 21
    0
    I would strangle Capriles, but you won't.